vg|2011 Spingold Final,Segment 1 of 4,I,1,16,Monaco,0,Nickell,0|
rs|PASS,2SE-2,6NS+1,6CS=,4DW+1,2HN-2,3DN-1,1NS+1,3NN+2,3NN+1,4CS=,4CS=,3NE-2,3NE+1,3HS-3,2HN-1,3NE+1,3NE+2,1NS+2,5CS-1,4DS-1,5DN-2,4HE+1,4HW=,1HNx-1,3NW+1,4SS+2,6SS=,4HS-1,1CN-1,4SN-1,1HEx-1|
pn|Helgemo,Katz,Helness,Nickell,Zia,Zimmermann,Hamman,Multon|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SAT4H853DKT4CK754,S6HKJ7DA9875CQJ32,SQJ8H9642DQJ6CA98,SK97532HAQTD32CT6|sv|o|nt|uday:  Welcome all.  A big triple thanks to Roland and Larry Cohen.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rain:  Then click the "Play" button beside the 2 speakers' names, and you can hear them talking. Enjoy :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: exciting start :)|pg||
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qx|c1|st||md|3SAT4H853DKT4CK754,S6HKJ7DA9875CQJ32,SQJ8H9642DQJ6CA98,SK97532HAQTD32CT6|sv|o|nt|casenjo:  Well, rehi to all, please be patient with the WIFI disconnects ;)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: there is an issue with the hands because it is not the right hands give me a moment to resolve please|pg||
nt|gambit: 38 imp difference, 32 boards left,,expect some fireworks |pg||
nt|casenjo:  Meckwell has lots of experience grinding out come from behind victories|pg||
nt|gambit: indeed|pg||
nt|peachy: Hi everybody|pg||
nt|jpes: its lauria and versace|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: hi all the match has begun but there is an issue with the hands so please stop asking me to change the names of the players i will do it thank you|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Operator, the spelling of the N-S names are not accurate|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Lauria|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Versace|pg||
nt|gambit: not exactly the meek vs. the meek, more like battle of the titans|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|casenjo:  No problem with the names, just pretend the 'n's are 'r's|pg||
nt|daman: and we're off and pacing|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  Welcome to 3rd quarter of Spingold Semi-Finals|pg||
nt|joest: Zia proving that 3rd seat nonvulnerable is not 100% forcing: even on him|pg||
nt|joest: with 11 highs and only a spade stiff, Zimmerman will toss this back in|pg||
nt|daman: I think that the next cycle begins with the 2012 Spingold Jack|pg||
nt|daman: http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/component/content/article/2-latest-news/988-hamman-joins-new-team-for-next-cycle|pg||
nt|joest: One common rule of thumb in fourth seat: add your HCP + your   of spades.  If 15 or more, open.  If not, pass|pg||
nt|daman: not enough pearson points to open|pg||
mb|1D|nt|joest: ok, color me surprised :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|gambit: :)|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Hi again to Cam and Walter|pg||
nt|peachy: Hi Terry, Walter and Cam|pg||
nt|gambit: hi Jo....|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C shows 8+ minors over 1@S|pg||
nt|bigtrain: they can be 53 either way even|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: 4@S from Eric, what else|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|gambit: look at Meck's raise!|pg||
nt|gambit: indeed|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Rodwell just might eek out 8 tricks........|pg||
nt|gambit: Zia might not make 5@D* off three toppers|pg||
nt|bigtrain: maybe even 9|pg||
nt|peachy: Hello again|pg||
mb|2S|nt|gambit: :)|pg||
nt|gambit: ok now|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@H is art GF|pg||
nt|joest: the theory is: either you partner has spades (which will force you to rebid which is bad) or the opponents have spades and can outbid you so your cheapest exit is passing right now|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: Hi Jo Anne|pg||
nt|gambit: delaying the inevitable|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT shows 9 minors with a singleton spade|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|h7|nt|joest: George points out that the change will not take place until next year's spingold so Zia-Hamman will still play the REisinger and Vanderbilt this year|pg||
nt|daman: they need to get a @D trick before the @Cs are set up to beat|pg||
pc|h6|nt|casenjo:  this will only make on a non-@H lead|pg||
nt|gambit: Can N lead a heart? |pg||
nt|gambit: no....|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|c6|nt|gambit: will make it now|pg||
pc|c4|nt|casenjo:  Hamman would have overcalled 1@H, he loves those good 4 card suits,, but unfortunately, he is sitting North|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|nt|peachy: Nickell luck is on|pg||
pc|d4|nt|daman: great shift|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sK|nt|peachy: their trademark, come back at the last minute|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|joest: well this hand will not disprove the Pearson Points theory|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|peachy: Heart lead just does not seem right, quite normal not to|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|d5|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
nt|daman: he is teasing us by not cashing the @D King|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h9|nt|daman: uppercut coming|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|nt|joest: that is why!|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|joest: nice d by Zia|pg||
nt|daman: good stuff|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4SKJ7HKJ5DAK7CQ543,SAT542H84DJ8652CJ,SQHAT9763DQCAKT98,S9863HQ2DT943C762|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|henryb:  picky, Roland|pg||
mb|d|an|4+ Major, 5+ minor|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|nt|henryb:  North might pass this knowing that they are missing the @hQ and an ace|pg||
mb|p|nt|henryb:  and he does not know about the @hJ|pg||
mb|6H|mb|p|mb|6N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb:  I would be a pessimist. Obviously Helness is not|pg||
pc|h8|nt|henryb:  claim|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|mc|13|pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4SKJ7HKJ5DAK7CQ543,SAT542H84DJ8652CJ,SQHAT9763DQCAKT98,S9863HQ2DT943C762|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfc: now we are officially starting!!!|pg||
nt|ritong: hello there|pg||
nt|casenjo:  hi, Henri @H|pg||
nt|joest: well done|pg||
nt|joest: diamond shift as well as diamond underlead|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|an|15-17|nt|bigtrain: bsr henri|pg||
nt|daman: time for a slam|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: Zia for once at the top|pg||
nt|daman: that will change|pg||
mb|2D!|an|Tx|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any|pg||
mb|2H|nt|gambit: range? Where is Al Holland when you need him?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 5+@D GF|pg||
nt|daman: hey don't play well unless they are 40-50 behind|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: Hi Henri|pg||
nt|joest: 6NT is best b/c it can make even if hearts do not come home|pg||
mb|2N!|an|!C GF|nt|joest: 2NT probably a club transfer|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk5: 15-17|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT is waiting|pg||
nt|joest: in some partnerships, 4@c now by south shows 4 clubs + 3 hearts|pg||
mb|4C!|nt|joest: but we'll see how they do it|pg||
mb|p|mb|4N|nt|joest: at this point Hamman would like to use double roman key card for hearts and clubs|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: J@S lead after that auction |pg||
nt|casenjo:  Roddy knows Jeff is broke|pg||
nt|peachy: http://www.archiviobridge.it/lauria-versace.pdf  NS card. It is a WBF card but surely they havvent changed much|pg||
nt|casenjo:  For those non-Precision people, please read Bigtrain's commentary for perfect explanations|pg||
nt|tez: 8 of @s great card:)|pg||
nt|gambit: assuming E/W can unblock the clubs, this is an easy defeat |pg||
nt|casenjo:  yes, and we see it went down in the other room|pg||
nt|joest: but i don't know if they play that|pg||
nt|joest: he just cares about aces, the heart king, and the round queens|pg||
mb|5S|nt|bigtrain: ace lead from AKx(x); meck's signal is standard|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Hi Walter|pg||
nt|bigtrain: hi joanne|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: that looks like two + a queen|pg||
nt|joest: some pairs have steps that distinguish which queen, or whether both queens|pg||
mb|6C|mb|p|nt|peachy: Glad to have Walter here, he knows Meckwell system |pg||
nt|gambit: puts terror into the heart of the declarer, he doesn't know E can't get the lead...|pg||
nt|casenjo:  for the hundres watching 'bigtrain' was my first bridge teacher at Ohio State|pg||
nt|gambit: wow...nice to have such a mentor|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: this sounds like it could be to play|pg||
nt|joest: 6@c is still safer than 6@h|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  I'm happy with the results :)|pg||
nt|daman: six key card that shows @C Q and not @H Q|pg||
nt|joest: thanks George|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dQ|nt|gambit: nice lead, and fortuitous break. Wd by Roddy |pg||
nt|peachy: Rodwell might/might not be having discard trouble soon\|pg||
nt|gambit: Declarer fantazing about Kx@D onside allowing contract to make, but not today|pg||
nt|bigtrain: won't have much of a problem|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Was Meckstroth's 9@H a spade indicator?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  If so, Eric can safely pitch a spade|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pg||
nt|bigtrain: yeah he really likes that 10 :)  seriously it was count...  remember they play upside-down suit preference|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg||
mc|12|nt|Vugraphzfc: it was double rkc|pg||
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qx|o3|st||md|1SAT94HQ652DQ5CT93,SKHT84DKJ8643CQJ4,SJ75HAJ973D72CA62,SQ8632HKDAT9CK875|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2D|an|good raise|nt|henryb:  6N was a better contract: did not need to find @hQ to make 6N|pg||
mb|3D|nt|henryb:  2@d is a constructive @h raise|pg||
nt|barnets: e/w laying 2@S on board 1 where we saw it passed ot|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|h6|nt|barnets: good spot|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|barnets: that was 2 down so first blood to Nickell|pg||
nt|barnets: 3 imps|pg||
nt|rain:  Anyone with problems (like if the 2 speakers' voices suddenly stop), leave table and return. Then click "Play" next to their names again and you will hear them. There is also a volume slider that you can adjust.|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c3|st||md|1SAT94HQ652DQ5CT93,SKHT84DKJ8643CQJ4,SJ75HAJ973D72CA62,SQ8632HKDAT9CK875|sv|e|nt|gambit: down to 24....|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|gambit: no doubt Jeff and Eric are hoping for more shapely and imaginative hands|pg||
nt|joest: one questin to discuss with your partner if you play Drury:  is 2@c drury here or natural?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|joest: 3@d seems sort of straightforward but some pairs play that must be fit-showing by a passed hand in which case I guess you have to do something else|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
nt|casenjo:  remember last quarter? they gained 20 in 2 boards|pg||
nt|gambit: no...venturing too high |pg||
nt|casenjo:  Patience can be a virtue.....running out of patience can be a disaster|pg||
nt|joest: anyway: a great chance for Nickell to be plus at both tables|pg||
nt|daman: In a few minutes, the Spingold Finals will begin. Use the new BBO version and you can "hear" the voice of commentators Larry Cohen and Roland Wald! http://www.br...|pg||
nt|daman: idgebase.com/index.php|pg||
nt|daman: for those who want the audio|pg||
nt|joest: Hamman may 'guess' the heart king solely bbecaus he wants to avoid a spade ruff if he loses to the king|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|nt|daman: it would be a super play|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|gambit: he want to lead a heart but can't from that holding|pg||
nt|joest: of course from his point of view that is conceding going down unless he drops the king|pg||
pc|s3|nt|gambit: hmmm|pg||
pc|s4|nt|casenjo:  Nice lead by Jeff Meckstroth|pg||
nt|gambit: that helps the def|pg||
nt|joest: 2 diamonds + 2 clubs + 1 heart + 1 spade|pg||
pc|h4|nt|casenjo:  Zia ran off his clubs and managed 9 tricks|pg||
nt|gambit: how will Zia make that? He must be swinging (as predicted) already |pg||
nt|casenjo:  On Board 34, sorry|pg||
nt|bigtrain: E pitched3 spades which squeezes W in 3 suits|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|casenjo:  correct|pg||
nt|gambit: q@D|pg||
pc|c2|nt|bigtrain: hamman zia never exposed south's distribution so the defense was guessing|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c4|nt|casenjo:  The auction more or less gave the hand away, but now, you need the guts to underlead your Ace|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg||
pc|hA|pc|s6|nt|casenjo:  On the auction NOrth is marked with 5-4-4|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s9|nt|casenjo:  1-5-4-3 is possible, but not likely without having shown a big hand|pg||
nt|gambit: I remember playing Barry Crane in Cobo Hall in Detroit, 1978/79 and we were killing them after 3 boards, I prayed for 4 banal, simplistic hands, alas my prayers were answered, but ...|pg||
nt|gambit: I was still as heathen, never going to church except for weddings and funerals, God forgive me |pg||
nt|gambit: See Barry and me, Google it... |pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|joest: so this seems to be headed two down but still 2 imps to Nickell|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
nt|daman: fierce signal|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg||
mc|6|nt|Vugraphzfc: Zia went for coffee for the table|pg||
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qx|o4|st||md|2SA92HAK97DK73CK97,SK85HJT852DA6CAQ2,ST43H6DQJ854C8543,SQJ76HQ43DT92CJT6|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|wiki: mä olin bbossa kommentoimassa Hangon joukkista ja joku unno lähetti sulle terveisiä, joten kun näät niin sano että kerroin|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: sry, i was distracted telling Kibs they cannot enter after the session starts -- players said made 5|pg||
mb|1N|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|nt|barnets: this looks down 1 |pg||
pc|d3|nt|barnets: 3@C  the trump ace and a spade loser|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d6|nt|barnets: 2@H likely making so approx same|pg||
nt|barnets: Hamman-Zia played the slam in 6@C|pg||
nt|barnets: that was the second best spot|pg||
nt|barnets: 6@C being cold with no finesses|pg||
nt|barnets: but will lose 3 imps to 6N|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg||
nt|henryb:  3 only if the @sA is cashed immediately|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg||
nt|henryb:  really, N played a spade and not a @c?|pg||
pc|s8|nt|barnets: right henry|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg||
nt|barnets: and the spade was cashed so we are 3-3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|sT|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|d5|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg||
mc|8|nt|henryb:  and claim on the cross ruff|pg||
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qx|c4|st||md|2SA92HAK97DK73CK97,SK85HJT852DA6CAQ2,ST43H6DQJ854C8543,SQJ76HQ43DT92CJT6|sv|b|nt|casenjo:  all the defense knew was that North was short in spades, and had clubs, perhaps a negative inference that South has Spades|pg||
nt|casenjo:  There is and will ever only be ONE Barry....for those newer to Bridge, that is the long gone, Barry Crane|pg||
mb|1H|nt|casenjo:  You could fill a good book with Barry Crane stories|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2+ (usually) 10-15|pg||
mb|1S|nt|casenjo:  A kibbitzer pointed out the 'tiredness' factor|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@H = 5@S 4+@H less than invitational|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Both 4-man teams lost yesterday|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 2+@D 10-15|pg||
mb|1N|nt|Walddk5: Photos from Toronto at  www.confsudbridge.org   courtesy of Catarina Robles|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: they don't play Sandwich NT I assume :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|gambit: I did not play WITH Barry, folow the postedlink, I played against him and Mike Smolen |pg||
nt|joest: no and fewer and fewer expert pairs do|pg||
nt|daman: yes    |pg||
nt|daman: but it has it's place with those trying to learn the game|pg||
nt|joest: in these days you can get stolen blind.  You need something to protect yourself although admittedly you always take a chance coming in the sandwich seat|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|casenjo:  ANOTHER ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE, NOW GONE|pg||
nt|joest: with the ace of diamonds only doubleton, it won't be possible to stop 7 tricks|pg||
pc|d7|nt|daman: and maybe an endplay for 8|pg||
nt|joest: note Zia leads low in case stiff ace is onside|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
nt|gambit: scroll back|pg||
nt|gambit: note Rodwell did not lead a diamond in spite of his juicy holding|pg||
nt|gambit: http://cam.bridgeblogging.com/?p=7|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I just had a kibbitzer comment:" OMG! An hour to play 3 boards"|pg||
nt|gambit: sad but true|pg||
nt|ritong: cards weight heavier at that stage|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I told him:  "it is like watching paint dry. That is why I try to entertain you guys with bridge stories"|pg||
nt|bigtrain: they alllow about 9 minutes per board when playing behind screens|pg||
nt|casenjo:  But if you rather we do not, we can stop and you can watch the paint dry|pg||
nt|gambit: do we need dancing girls to keep you guys (and gals) entertained? |pg||
nt|casenjo:  Seems like most of you want to be entertained|pg||
pc|d3|nt|Walddk5: Watch multiple tables through  www.bridgebase.com/mobile|pg||
nt|joest: don't know if Multon's diamond play was a Smith Echo (= "I hate hearts")|pg||
pc|s5|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|joest: anyway Zimmerman didn't continue them!|pg||
pc|s7|pc|c9|nt|daman: can't find their system anywhere|pg||
nt|daman: basci SEF I'm sure|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Someone just asked what was the worst thing about my ex-husband: Only one. He was never home, not even for dinner :(|pg||
nt|bigtrain: screens divide the table in half - corner to corner|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h4|nt|bigtrain: south and west are on one side|pg||
nt|bigtrain: north aand east the other|pg||
nt|casenjo:  And the screens go down to the floor. This was after a pair was caught giving "foot signals"|pg||
nt|bigtrain: there is a small door that is opened during the play only|pg||
pc|s2|nt|joest: Zimmerman appears to be headed for an endpla|pg||
nt|joest: endplay|pg||
nt|daman: yes|pg||
nt|daman: he could unblock the @S|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|s3|nt|bigtrain: the bidding occurs on a tray that slides below the screen|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|h3|nt|daman: I have been give the system for EW     http://www.archiviobridge.it/multon-zimmerman.pdf|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h7|mc|9|nt|joest: thanks|pg||
nt|joest: the miracles of the web|pg||
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qx|o5|st||md|3S94HKQ743DK5CAQ95,SKJT853HT85DJ6C72,SAQ76HA6DQ93CJ843,S2HJ92DAT8742CKT6|sv|n|mb|1C|nt|barnets: everything f|pg||
nt|barnets: rall friendly here|pg||
mb|1D|nt|barnets: n/s can make a lot |pg||
mb|1H|nt|henryb:  One of the voice commenters is in London, the other (I believe) in Florida|pg||
nt|barnets: ev|pg||
mb|1S|nt|barnets: even slam|pg||
mb|p|an|<3 hearts|mb|2D|nt|henryb:  They, like all of you, are watching the vugraph|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: with 27 hcp n/s can make slam in clubs , hearts and no trumps due to the friendly layout|pg||
mb|p|pc|d7|nt|henryb:  For all kibitzers. I appreciate your comments, but ... I can only respond to a few, rarely privately, and never to anyone who does not disclose his or her real name on their profile|pg||
nt|barnets: north does not know that of course|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dJ|nt|barnets: and just needs 9 tricks|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|dK|pg||
pc|d4|nt|barnets: now he can take the club finesse with safety|pg||
nt|luffe12:  excellent play|pg||
nt|barnets: he will likely run the J |pg||
nt|barnets: and then run the 8|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
nt|barnets: keeping east out|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
nt|barnets: when hearts split he has 11 tricks|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cQ|nt|barnets: 2 imps  Nickell on board 3 2@H down 2 when 4@D made 5 here|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|c9|mc|11|nt|barnets: this was a well played hand by north as you would expect from Helness|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: lights just went out, but the lights here are motion sensitive so someone had to do was stand up :)|pg||
nt|henryb:  For anyone who does not know, Pierre Zimmerman recruted two world class pairs to come and live in Monaco|pg||
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qx|c5|st||md|3S94HKQ743DK5CAQ95,SKJT853HT85DJ6C72,SAQ76HA6DQ93CJ843,S2HJ92DAT8742CKT6|sv|n|nt|casenjo:  Answer to another question: Yes, we had a baby together, he will be 23 tomorrow and is an aerospace engineer|pg||
nt|gambit: ok, here is one tale.......back in the old days, a friend of mine asked if he could use a lighter belonging to one of the opps, the answer was "I don't think someone in blue jeans ...|pg||
nt|gambit: should TOUCH a gold lighter". Who was this Mckenny winner?|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1D|nt|casenjo:  15-17|pg||
nt|bigtrain: here is a picture|pg||
mb|1H|nt|joest: operator was tha5 150 or only 120?|pg||
nt|joest: i only counted 8 tricks after the endplay|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|joest: it's been corrected.  Thanks operator|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: pass|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Answer to another question:Best thing about Drew Casen: Answer: besides sex? GREAT bridge partner. GREAT dad|pg||
nt|bigtrain: http://www.bridgewinners.com/  here is a picture if u wanna give them |pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|joest: double here in modern parlance is just "I have extra values and no clear cut call"|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 0-7 any|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: 7@H|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@S = 4+ forcing|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 0-5 not 4@S|pg||
nt|daman: here are the systems for the 3 pairs on the Nickell team    the 3 Nickel pairs from the USBF site - http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=655&Itemid=284|pg||
pc|d7|nt|joest: I don't think 2@s goes for enough to compensate for a red game|pg||
nt|daman: nah    they want to be in game and not defending|pg||
nt|joest: anyway Hamman didn't want to wait around to find out|pg||
nt|joest: random unbiddable spot cards can affect that kind of result|pg||
nt|daman: plus   he LOVES to play 3NT|pg||
nt|joest: i'm being told it goes 800 on a trump promo which looks right.  That is still a random result and Hamman has a lifetime experience of whether it's worth passing 2@s at these colors|pg||
nt|daman: he will play the King   and finesse a @S|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|nt|bigtrain: just another cold game :)|pg||
nt|gambit: 10@S no choice|pg||
nt|peachy: not going down whatever he plays now|pg||
nt|peachy: but he of course does not know it|pg||
nt|gambit: this is an example of why "super accepting" has its risks, what is part had xxxxx jxx  qxx xx|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i think they play this shows a minimum with 4+trump|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@D = natural either suit can be longer|pg||
nt|joest: at the other table declarer ducked in both hands|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|daman: not a lifetime.....only 55 years|pg||
pc|h3|nt|daman: whoops|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|nt|joest: then assuming you can play clubs for three tricks (and that the spade hook is on) you can play for 2 spades + 3 hearts + 3 clubs +_ 1 diamond|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|nt|gambit: another hint, deceased, not Grant, not Paul|pg||
nt|daman: right|pg||
nt|joest: not sure which Z played low at trick one|pg||
pc|s6|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|casenjo:  me|pg||
nt|daman: could be the dreaded endplay coming for East|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s8|nt|gambit: get it up! he is never swithcing from the Q|pg||
nt|gambit: We have a winner|pg||
pc|c3|nt|gambit: Ron Andersen|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s5|pc|c4|nt|joest: it is certainly looking to Hamman that Multon needs the club king for his overcall|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg||
nt|joest: so one overtrick only for n-s|pg||
nt|daman: 10 tricks|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|daman: didn't want to risk the @C finesse|pg||
nt|joest: i'm not criming him :)|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4SQT3H64DK54CAK765,SA9HKT93DQJ973CJ3,SK874HQJ75D8CQT82,SJ652HA82DAT62C94|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|henryb:  Where he also lives|pg||
mb|1D|nt|barnets: he did win the Vanderbilt last year with slightly different team|pg||
mb|d|nt|barnets: including Helgemo and Helness|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: the Monte carlo residents have not seen much of zimmermans teammates so far|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|henryb:  So far they have not entered the European Championships, but I think that is a matter of waiting out the three year WBF rulles|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
nt|henryb:  Neither France nor Monaco qualified for this year's BB|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Nickell:  "wish trick"   [ace, 2 ,3 4,]|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SQT3H64DK54CAK765,SA9HKT93DQJ973CJ3,SK874HQJ75D8CQT82,SJ652HA82DAT62C94|sv|e|nt|gambit: sometimes (at thsi level) you can count on opps to do the right thing|pg||
nt|daman: no idea why he hung onto that @S|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: its a forced shift since he knows @C pitches coming|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Board 53 narrowed the gap even more.|pg||
nt|casenjo:  We now have a mere 7 IMP match|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1D|nt|gambit: all true|pg||
mb|d|nt|joest: note that Hamman has both majors for his double.  I sometimes see newer players double with only one major here|pg||
nt|joest: looks like a trick got away in the open room in 4@c|pg||
nt|joest: ace and a spade looks like a likely suspect|pg||
nt|joest: what would you bid here George?|pg||
nt|daman: @D Q was led|pg||
nt|daman: I would cuebid|pg||
mb|2N|an|!D raiise|nt|daman: 2NT must be some form of Dormer limit raise|pg||
nt|joest: 2NT by some pairs here is "four card limit raise"|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|nt|gambit: OK, here is a wild one....what bridge player was rescued by his uncle "Bugsy Seigal" after falling into the family pool?|pg||
mb|4C|nt|joest: on an equivalent auction at the other table, north bid 4@c|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  Wow and just told only a 2 imp difference in the other match with 10 boards to go|pg||
nt|gambit: the player in blue jeans was a friend, Doug Fox|pg||
nt|gambit: indeed Soloway it was|pg||
nt|joest: turns out 3@d can't make|pg||
nt|daman: as did hamman|pg||
nt|daman: but they have 4 losers|pg||
nt|joest: if they cash them|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: Meck?|pg||
nt|joest: that didn't prove so easy in the open room|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  2@H is a friendly little contract with 3-3 hearts and 3-3 spades|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|daman: 5 IMPs riding on it|pg||
nt|joest: this was the start next door, followed by ace and a spade|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dA|nt|gambit: Doug asked Ron if he he borrow thelighter...|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|joest: and in fairness to West if a low spade comes back, a spade return (for a possible ruff) looks more appealing than leading away from the heart king|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|nt|gambit: after Ron denied permission I guess Doug did notheng, no idea|pg||
nt|daman: yes it does|pg||
pc|sA|nt|gambit: @D through|pg||
nt|casenjo:  An interesting note, that applies to this match. Paul Soloway once said, "The average hand is a partial, the average hand is boring, the average hand I have played too many times to count...concentrating on ALL the hands is winning bridge"|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|gambit: the words of a champion and gentleman, brb|pg||
nt|ritong: in fact the trick is to recognize quickly the hands you can relax a bit, in order to save energy|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Boards 51 and 53 won 10 IMPS both determined by 'parials'|pg||
nt|casenjo:  partials|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s7|nt|casenjo:  At this level, it is often the partials that win the event and not the slams.|pg||
nt|joest: voila|pg||
nt|daman: and there it is|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|d3|pg||
nt|joest: so a push at 130 and both east wests will be glad to see it|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|c8|pc|d2|pg||
nt|gambit: b|pg||
nt|ritong: so we have 11 comparisons left|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|mc|10|nt|daman: no harm   no foul|pg||
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qx|o7|st||md|1SAT84H972DJ873C74,SJ73HJ4DKQ64CKT86,SKQHKT65D952CQ952,S9652HAQ83DATCAJ3|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: the european championships is one of the best events with many of the worlds best teams- very tough event|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2C|an|inverted|nt|henryb:  Its only detriment relative to the North American KOs, imo, is that only six players can play from any one country|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|an|art ask|mb|p|mb|2S|an|weak|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|barnets: yes and each country holds trials just like usa so its the same idea|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|barnets: need to finish in top 6 or 7 t Q for bermuda Bowl|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb:  So Poland, Sweden, Holland, France, Italy and so on, who probably all have 10 players or more in the European top 100 ...|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|barnets: Not any diff from our trials henry|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Helness asking ?s|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg||
nt|henryb:  And I am not talking about WBF rankings, when I say players in the top 100. There are many great players who have no WBF ranking|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Nick had the right idea to downgrade here, but still reached 3N|pg||
nt|barnets: which may make|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|barnets: there was a squeze on south in pointed suits|pg||
nt|henryb:  If you want the commentary from lc (Larry Cohen) or Walddk2 (Roland Wald) it is only voice and you have to turn on the voices |pg||
nt|barnets: but the @D cut communication|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
nt|barnets: if dec lost a club to north and a heart to north he woould have then squeezed south|pg||
nt|barnets: in diamonds and spades for his ninth trick|pg||
nt|barnets: now if he finnesses the @C J|pg||
pc|h2|nt|barnets: cashes The @DA cashes high clubs and plays fourth club to north|pg||
nt|barnets: north can play the @H K|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
nt|barnets: Now south has a potential entry with the @H 9|pg||
nt|barnets: I think crossing to the !K was perhaps wrong|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|henryb:   This event is supposed to run at a rate of 7 boards an hour or so, and we will be close|pg||
nt|barnets: club back stops a diamond trick |pg||
nt|henryb:  A club return now will strand the @dQ|pg||
nt|barnets: A difficult hand to play but seeing all the cards could be made|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|h7|pc|cK|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c9|nt|henryb:  Personally, I think Nickell should have won the @dA at trick 3 and led a low heart|pg||
mc|7|nt|Vugraphzfd: i am getting a lot of questions re how to get the audio, and I have no answers.  If anyone has such instructions who can post them to the table, please do|pg||
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qx|c7|st||md|1SAT84H972DJ873C74,SJ73HJ4DKQ64CKT86,SKQHKT65D952CQ952,S9652HAQ83DATCAJ3|sv|b|nt|casenjo:  6 Imp difference and 10 boards to go|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: Of course Barry murder never solved, a sad blight on justice|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|gambit: no overcall, maybe Meck will spring to life |pg||
nt|daman: 1NT - 3NT here|pg||
nt|joest: interesting to see what lead Zia chooses.  Nothing is particularly appealing|pg||
nt|daman: low @S lead|pg||
mb|3N|nt|gambit: too rich for 3S, will bid 4|pg||
nt|gambit: or some treatment|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT = limit raise|pg||
nt|gambit: hell of a LR |pg||
nt|ritong: ?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|casenjo:  3@S should make, losing a @S, 2@H and 1@C|pg||
nt|casenjo:  North opened 2@H|pg||
nt|ritong: we might miss a pass|pg||
nt|bigtrain: extra pass operator|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: here comes 4@S|pg||
nt|daman: low @D could be fatal|pg||
pc|s4|nt|casenjo:  Again, the partial and not shooting for the stars, should produce a nice gain for Nickell|pg||
nt|ritong: i am sure EW would declare game if left to themselves|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: director call at the moment by meckstoth|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Meckstroth*|pg||
nt|ritong: which one is an other story|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: oh never mind its for the restroom...|pg||
nt|gambit: or puff....|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Rodwell has a wonderful habit of thinking at trick 1|pg||
nt|gambit: Well the crime scene suggested as much |pg||
nt|casenjo:  He is consistant and does it every hand, even if it doesn't matter|pg||
nt|daman: 4th from your longest and strongest|pg||
nt|joest: Hamman may well play his spade honors 'out of order', first king then queen to indicate that he has KQ doubleton|pg||
nt|daman: right|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sK|nt|gambit: no|pg||
pc|s5|nt|peachy: not too far off, just spade fin working|pg||
nt|joest: i've learned just to say 'may well' :)|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s7|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i'm pretty sure meck off tabacco currently...  but changes status frequently :)|pg||
pc|h5|nt|jtr: God!|pg||
nt|daman: Hi David|pg||
nt|jtr: Sorry:(|pg||
nt|pfbr: hi david :) nice introduciton :)|pg||
nt|daman: you don't have to call me God|pg||
nt|joest: Multon knows he is down if the heart king is off|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@D is a help suit game try in theory although space is limited so it is somewhat random|pg||
nt|casenjo:  same contract in other room|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Oftentimes, a hand may look so easy and you might do lttle errors like winning the first trick in the wrong hand|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Jeff and Eric were both born in 1956|pg||
nt|joest: now he is cold with no further finesses|pg||
nt|joest: besides the heart|pg||
pc|c6|nt|ritong: excellent year|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
nt|daman: Helness switched to a @D|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c8|nt|joest: so long as he plays clubs into the safe hand|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg||
nt|peachy: close games are bid when vul|pg||
pc|c3|pc|h9|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d4|nt|joest: Zia about to be squeezed|pg||
nt|daman: squeezed|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
mc|10|nt|daman: costly @H switch|pg||
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qx|o8|st||md|2SKQ42HKT973DA73CT,ST85HAQJDQJT9C965,S73H654D642CAK742,SAJ96H82DK85CQJ83|sv|o|nt|barnets: that looks ok henry|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb:  If you are on the web version of BBO, you should see the names Walddk2 and lc in a box on the right of the written commentary|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: audio is available only on web version of BBO (not the windows platform)|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: he could make it that way |pg||
mb|1H|nt|barnets: by throwing north in with the fourth heart for 4 club tricks|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  www.bridgebase.com   Play Bridge Now|pg||
mb|p|nt|henryb:  next to the names, should be an arrow|pg||
mb|2H|nt|barnets: after a succesful club finesse|pg||
mb|d|nt|henryb:  click the arrow and make sure the sound is on|pg||
nt|Jacki:  To view Vugraph with voice commentary, you must first have the new version of BBO:  www.bridgebase.com, click Play Bridge Now, then log on as usual |pg||
mb|p|nt|Jacki:  Instructions for voice are explained here:  http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/news_fetch.php?id=743|pg||
nt|henryb:  click each arrow|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: defending best here|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: the 3 level rates to go down|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: in each direction|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg||
nt|henryb:  On the auction I might have doubled with Katz's hand|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Helgemo calls for the ace from dummy and all laugh|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|d3|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s3|nt|barnets: I agree|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
nt|barnets: 3 likely tricks and partner has points|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|d4|nt|henryb:  K and a @h|pg||
nt|barnets: so e/w reached 3N on same lead on previous board|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|henryb:  could (should) lead to 3 down|pg||
pc|h2|nt|barnets: Hamman won first two tricks and shifted to a heart|pg||
nt|barnets: If dec runs this he has his contract|pg||
nt|barnets: and he did|pg||
nt|barnets: so this is a big swing to monaco|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Helgemo had the king out and put it back|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|d5|pc|h7|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SKQ42HKT973DA73CT,ST85HAQJDQJT9C965,S73H654D642CAK742,SAJ96H82DK85CQJ83|sv|o|nt|casenjo:  New leader|pg||
nt|gambit: wow|pg||
nt|gambit: fabulous match, the way it should be|pg||
nt|gambit: maybe 1NT all pass , other table in 3@D|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i bet meck bids over 1NT|pg||
nt|joest: biggest swing of the match so far|pg||
nt|daman: in the other room   East bid @Hs|pg||
mb|1N!|an|10-13|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gambit: sybarra2: Are you the gagging police? |pg||
nt|joest: 10-13|pg||
nt|daman: In the OR East bid @H ART. Here, unless Multon opened on 14 he had to have the HQ to make up his count|pg||
nt|joest: good point George|pg||
mb|2C!|an|Majors|nt|sybarra: B does not have a star but is a star,  and instructor LOL|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  4@S on this hand in other room|pg||
nt|sybarra: sorry all privie|pg||
nt|casenjo:  So much for the 'fat ladies' out there|pg||
nt|ritong: now please.|pg||
nt|ritong: either you keep the private things private or i will take measures.|pg||
mb|2H|nt|gambit: I thought we were friends...guess we can't talk about barry or whatever...|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: 3@D?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|joest: on a diamond switch, declarer has 3 diamonds + 3 clubs + 2 hearts plus various angles for  9|pg||
nt|joest: 2@c here clearly for the majors|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|nt|bigtrain: 3@S forces a 4@S bid with 3+trump|pg||
nt|gambit: what will he lead?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3NT would have been truly optional|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|gambit: Q@C looks like the top of a sequence, not a stff, predict a heart|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg||
nt|joest: Hamman ducking to prevent Multon from gaining entry to push another trump through|pg||
nt|joest: winning the jack then switching is an ominous sign|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|cK|nt|ritong: so, let s concentrate on this really breathless match|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|d7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h8|nt|joest: that play surpises me|pg||
nt|joest: he was going to get a chance to wina lower spade in just a moment|pg||
pc|h9|nt|daman: nice D  no matter|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
nt|gambit: clinging to those clubs as well he should|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3SA432HQ63DJ76CJ73,SJHT84DKT5432CAQ8,ST976HK752DA8C642,SKQ85HAJ9DQ9CKT95|sv|e|nt|barnets: X would have worked well Henry|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|henryb:  Larry is saying that he rarely doubles partials|pg||
mb|3C|an|diamonds|nt|henryb:  but I think there have to be exceptions|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|an|shortness|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|henryb:  3@c transfer|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: 13 imps to Monaco on the last deal when Helgomo found a diamond switch  v 3n|pg||
pc|h3|nt|henryb:  3@d shortness|pg||
nt|barnets: making it difficult fo Nickell|pg||
nt|barnets: sorry it was helness found the switch|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: 3 is 3rd and 5th (or chuncky 4 card suit with only one low card|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|hQ|mc|10|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SA432HQ63DJ76CJ73,SJHT84DKT5432CAQ8,ST976HK752DA8C642,SKQ85HAJ9DQ9CKT95|sv|e|nt|gambit: need to start a @H to hold it to 5|pg||
nt|gambit: 3NT an option,,,,,|pg||
nt|gambit: 36 imps and opportunities waning|pg||
nt|bigtrain: actuaqlly its difficult to see how with best defense the lead matters...  looks like only 11 tricks regardless|pg||
nt|sybarra: and an entire set after this,   would not sell anyone short|pg||
nt|casenjo:  club lead in other room gave Hamman time for 12 trickes|pg||
nt|bigtrain: where does the 12th trick come from?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  and CAYNE is back in the lead|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Talk about excitement!!!! 8 boards to go|pg||
nt|ritong: 8 comps left|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Do not leave|pg||
nt|ritong: i guess so|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|an|15-17|mb|p|nt|joest: kibs point out that his d guaranteed a set|pg||
nt|joest: if Hamman had a stiff spade|pg||
nt|joest: good point|pg||
mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|gambit: certainly if any team is capable of mounting a comeback it is this team, starting and ending with Meckwell, not the best in the world for nothing|pg||
nt|casenjo:  heart loser went on spades and went on his merry way cross ruffing|pg||
mb|3D|nt|sybarra2: this doesnt look right either |pg||
nt|casenjo:  WiFi problems all day|pg||
nt|bigtrain: missing 2 passes?|pg||
nt|sybarra2: maybe missing 2 passes this time?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|casenjo:  yes, it is more dangerous on the commentary team than the playing teams|pg||
nt|casenjo:  But go ahead and fling your arrows|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: i'm quietly sitting in the corner waiting for things to sort themselves out :)|pg||
nt|joest: on the other hand declarer can have only two trumps left to ruff the two spades even in the worst of instances...|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ritong: heh|pg||
nt|casenjo:  We can take it......|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|casenjo:  No, you are waiting for Precision auctions. We need you for all those alerts!!!|pg||
mb|p|pc|h3|nt|peachy: 2M in 2C-2D-2M may be canape style says card|pg||
nt|joest: I can't find the 3@c call. Perhaps puppet stayman.  |pg||
nt|daman: or    a singleton somewhere|pg||
nt|daman: 3@D asked|pg||
nt|daman: 3@S = stiff|pg||
nt|joest: it could be a transfer i now but if it were a typical follow up would be 3@s for shortness|pg||
nt|joest: ok thanks george|pg||
nt|daman: 3@C was a transfer to 3@D and 3@S showed a singleton|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: lots of whispering, no written explanations|pg||
pc|hT|nt|gambit: Though my heart lies with Fred and his Diamond, this is the best, if track record is the measuring stick, and it should be |pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|casenjo:  I think it will be tough for Mecstroth to find the @H lead now that Roddy hasn't double the cuebid|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|nt|ritong: walter has many pertinent comments to offer, hope he will now that our screens are a bit more unfilled|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|casenjo:  italian style: shows 4-5|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
nt|joest: declarer now just slated to lose one in each major|pg||
nt|joest: last chance to cash the spade ace here|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ritong: but, as many among us, he may dislike commentating, or playing, or defending 1NT|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|joest: which I think Zia will work out|pg||
nt|joest: unless of course I am wrong :(|pg||
nt|joest: Multon doesn't know diamonds aren't 4-1|pg||
nt|joest: he would hate to unblock clubs, hook the diamond and find himself losing a diamond, a club and a spade from this point|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d7|nt|daman: he is concerned about who has the 4th @H too|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ritong: so many variantes  worse than a chess board|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
nt|casenjo:  the problem with chess, is that I have to plan too far ahead. In bridge, only 13 tricks|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: monaco is +7 through 57|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|dJ|pg||
mc|11|nt|daman: good stuff   win !|pg||
nt|daman: 1|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: break|pg||
nt|daman: lemonade|pg||
pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SJHAQJ5DKT3CKQT43,SK765H983DAJ75CJ7,S983HKT4D984CA952,SAQT42H762DQ62C86|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|barnets: off beat 1N|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h8|nt|barnets: not a success here|pg||
nt|barnets: n/s can make 4@C|pg||
nt|barnets: maye 4@H|pg||
mc|9|nt|barnets: evn|pg||
pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SJHAQJ5DKT3CKQT43,SK765H983DAJ75CJ7,S983HKT4D984CA952,SAQT42H762DQ62C86|sv|b|nt|sybarra2: or just getting back to bd |pg||
nt|ritong: very|pg||
nt|ritong: extremely tough job|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: score on 57 is missing|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 3@C = both minors, less than invitational values|pg||
nt|sybarra2: well rehi all,  we will try it abain |pg||
nt|ritong: ho hum|pg||
nt|sybarra2: did we miss a pass? |pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|gambit: perhaps dble from N might help S do the right thing|pg||
nt|joest: I suspect Zia will bid 2@h.  It is worth it to bid out your pattern (even if you know partner doesn'ts have four hearts)|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: b/c you know the opps have at least nine spades|pg||
mb|4C|nt|casenjo:  yes, that was when system went down|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: he has a great hand...should be |pg||
mb|5C|nt|ritong: i suppose this is a shortened auction|pg||
nt|daman: right    good point|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|ritong: contract is right and declarer too|pg||
nt|joest: maybe some question about whether 3@c is forcing.  Reversing after a 1NT response not necessarily the same as after one of a suit|pg||
nt|daman: but it will be unsuccessful|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|ritong: but duboin had no reason to bid 4@s here|pg||
nt|joest: 4@h would have been a great result|pg||
nt|daman: down 2 if E switches to a @D|pg||
nt|joest: making on a dummy reversal|pg||
nt|daman: yes|pg||
pc|d2|nt|bigtrain: @CQ is rusinow|pg||
nt|gambit: hands fit well, and things on-side and best lead for the def, S will hook the spade successfully knowing the W hand|pg||
nt|gambit: needs the K@H onside or not play therefore W is 1-2-5-5- or the like|pg||
pc|dK|nt|joest: much easier to see looking at all four hands|pg||
nt|daman: has to play the K|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Kibbitzers have askedme about the 3@C bid, frequently used in Precision auctions|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s2|nt|bigtrain: i bet he's regretting not doubling about now|pg||
nt|gambit: neat toy |pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|gambit: doubt tht|pg||
nt|gambit: why double whwn they will make it or even, 1 trick set? |pg||
nt|gambit: will be claiming shortly |pg||
nt|bigtrain: actually was referring to the 5@S bid|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg||
nt|sybarra2: maybe the "system raise"   |pg||
nt|ritong: next time rodwell is declarer, i suggest you have a look at the scoresheet to check 57|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|nt|bigtrain: much better to take the money and run here|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|cQ|nt|daman: imo    4@C was a bit of a reach but I can understand his enthusiasm on the auction|pg||
nt|joest: yeah.  I'm sure if he knew 100% that 3@c was forcing he would have bid that|pg||
mc|10|nt|daman: -1 now|pg||
nt|joest: I suspect (but don't know) that he had some concern about that|pg||
pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1SAJ95HT63DQ872CA3,SKT76H754DJT65CT6,SQ8H92DAK943CK752,S432HAKQJ8DCQJ984|sv|o|nt|barnets: on the 4-3 fit can make|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2D|an|inverted|nt|barnets: 3 imps to Nickell when zia was down 1 in 2@h|pg||
nt|barnets: we saw 3@H go down 3 |pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|d|nt|barnets: south picks up the |pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: diamond suit by leading the @DQ|pg||
nt|barnets: first|pg||
mb|3H|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: 4@D is the limit|pg||
nt|henryb:  true, and there are only three obvious losers, but not 10 obvious winners|pg||
mb|p|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg||
nt|henryb:  since clubs will get overruffed|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hK|nt|barnets: a spade toward the Q would work well here bit south also need entries to finese|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|d3|pg||
nt|barnets: in diamonds|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg||
nt|barnets: the club overuff may prove fatal|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|h8|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dA|nt|barnets: now he is down 1|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|c5|pc|s4|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cQ|nt|barnets: too much to do|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dT|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1SAJ95HT63DQ872CA3,SKT76H754DJT65CT6,SQ8H92DAK943CK752,S432HAKQJ8DCQJ984|sv|o|nt|casenjo:  And the players don't wait for the operator to catch up|pg||
nt|casenjo:  tough job|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Board 57 is scored now, but the Imps are not correct|pg||
nt|casenjo:  corrected now|pg||
nt|ritong: aren t they?|pg||
nt|ritong: good|pg||
nt|bigtrain: IMPs correct now...  |pg||
nt|bigtrain: do we know what the lead was here?|pg||
nt|ritong: if you feel a bit frustrated, just keep in mind that, without internet, you would just have the final result, even several days later|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i resume we in midplay somewhere|pg||
nt|casenjo:  No, but we need to give our poor vugraph operator a break here, he's crashed all night|pg||
nt|ritong: so, just put with " technical" problems with philosophy|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|joest: perhaps 2NT for the two lower|pg||
mb|2N!|an|2 lower|nt|bigtrain: 2@C is natural and GF|pg||
nt|casenjo:  This is a Precision Club where 1@C = 16+ HCP|pg||
nt|gambit: some number of spades or some toy to support|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any|pg||
mb|d|nt|ritong: i m not saying he is a snail, he always take at least 30 seconds when dummy comes down|pg||
nt|joest: Zimmerman will just bid 3@h and hope to be out of the auction|pg||
nt|daman: 3@C by Zia might have been a better bid|pg||
mb|3H|nt|bigtrain: XX = 8-10 balanced|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|daman: wow|pg||
nt|joest: Depending on what you are playing 3@c directly by Zia might have been 'invitational or better' in diamonds|pg||
mb|p|mb|5D|nt|Vugraphzfc: i am not sure how to change the scores but will find out|pg||
nt|ritong: good|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: brd 57 went down one in 1NT|pg||
nt|ritong: what is the score, for info?|pg||
nt|ritong: ok ty|pg||
nt|bigtrain: the opening lead is everything here|pg||
nt|bigtrain: @S jack or 10 beats 3NT|pg||
nt|jchiu: may pop king on a low spade, as Lauria did (but Helness did not)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: anything else and the contract scores if declarer works out the @S position|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Zia led a spade in the other room|pg||
nt|bigtrain: since 57 went -1 the actual score is nickell 103 cayne 101|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, 140 is 4 imps|pg||
nt|ritong: 90+50 that is|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Good question: Kibbitzer wants to know what is difference between open and closed room when we can see either room|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|casenjo:  At the tournament site, open room has kibbitzers, closed room does not|pg||
nt|sybarra2: or at least that was the way it was in the old days|pg||
nt|ritong: what s going on, nikita?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: closed room allows kibs at the beginning but no one enters after the play begins|pg||
nt|joest: if you'd done that you could afford to just sell out to 3@h b/c partner did open 3rd seat|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: undo|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: a slow 3NT here is more tenuious than a direct action|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@C shows 16+ hcp and any distributuion|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: West's pass is forcing since E established a GF|pg||
pc|hA|nt|bigtrain: the X was just cards (nothing more to contribute)|pg||
pc|h3|nt|joest: this is the second straight five of a minor that might have made ona very good day - but which won't|pg||
pc|h4|nt|gambit: will never make|pg||
nt|casenjo:  The 2@C bid is highlighted without explanation, but Bigtrain explained that it sets a Game Force|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 5+@C and GF values|pg||
nt|gambit: 8+ Forcing, all us former precision players know that |pg||
nt|gambit: need new glasses?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  East knows that partner has 16+ and therefore knows that they have enough HCP for game|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|h8|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
nt|gambit: unblock ty|pg||
nt|gambit: you wish Fred. |pg||
nt|daman: Zia has been masterminding a bit this session|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|casenjo:  21 hands left.....|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Looks like short break here|pg||
nt|gambit: Meck needs a puff|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg||
mc|9|nt|daman: hamman/Zia play  3C = D, 3H = 5+S FG, 3D/3S=NF, 3NT = FG raise, 4C/4H=SPL, DBL = else |pg||
nt|joest: so 2 more to Team Monaco|pg||
pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2SQJT732HJ632DQ8C7,SA84HQ94DKJ9CAT86,SK96H5DT752CKJ432,S5HAKT87DA643CQ95|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|d|an|3 hearts|nt|henryb:  wiill the vulnerability deter S from preempting?|pg||
nt|henryb:  yes, answered while I was typing|pg||
nt|barnets: yes wisely|pg||
mb|2H|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|barnets: 4@H likely best lead is the @SQ|pg||
nt|barnets: not the sing club|pg||
nt|henryb:  should W cooperate in the slam try?|pg||
nt|barnets: a club and a ruff wont help the defense|pg||
mb|4D|an|alerted|nt|barnets: 3@S looks to me a big bid fromEast|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: club and ruff is ok in 6 :)|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|barnets: good stop|pg||
nt|henryb:  Partner is unlimited, although the opponent's bidding limits him|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg||
nt|barnets: so helgemo leads the @SQ |pg||
nt|barnets: evn 4@H has sone danger|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h7|nt|barnets: some danger|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|h4|pc|c2|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h8|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
nt|barnets: norths 2@H bid pointed way in clubs|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h3|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|hT|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|c3|pg||
mc|11|nt|henryb:  whatever S does the last trump squeezes N|pg||
nt|barnets: well done|pg||
pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SQJT732HJ632DQ8C7,SA84HQ94DKJ9CAT86,SK96H5DT752CKJ432,S5HAKT87DA643CQ95|sv|n|nt|joest: although some of those meanings change when you are a passed hand|pg||
nt|daman: all members of the team are residents of Monaco now|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|casenjo:  Honestly folks, I couldn't do her job. |pg||
mb|1D|an|!H|nt|casenjo:  Please be kind|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|casenjo:  yes, Jeff and I are one of the few smoking dinosaurs left|pg||
mb|2C|nt|joest: interesting that there was no 'support double' by Zimmerman showing 3 hearts. They probably play it as something else|pg||
nt|joest: opposite a support double Multon would already have bid 4@h by now|pg||
mb|d|mb|2S|nt|casenjo:  It's the WiFi at the Ryal York|pg||
nt|daman: they seldom play support doubles on the other side of the pond|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ritong: ?|pg||
nt|ritong: confirmed?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yes confirmed|pg||
nt|ritong: ah|pg||
nt|daman: nor Frannery|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  15-17 NT (took a view)|pg||
nt|ritong: wo-ow|pg||
mb|p|pc|s6|nt|joest: the short hearts are on play so the singleton club is not getting led|pg||
pc|s5|nt|bigtrain: 3NT -1 on 59|pg||
nt|sybarra2: did we get this one right?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Is this contract correct?|pg||
nt|ritong: nikita says so|pg||
nt|sybarra2: this is rare fumble by this pair|pg||
nt|casenjo:  alerted|pg||
nt|ritong: absolutely astonishing|pg||
nt|ritong: makes more sense|pg||
nt|casenjo:  ah, that makes sense|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|casenjo:  This pair has over 200 pages of notes, when I asked Meckstroth if he knows it all, he said Eric does|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Jeff pled the 5th|pg||
nt|bigtrain: their SUMMARY is 200 pages|pg||
nt|casenjo:  That's why Isaid over 200!|pg||
nt|ritong: do they still have " MOST OF OUR BIDS ARE NATURAL" on the top of their CC, walter?|pg||
nt|joest: not that a club lead appeals that much with Jxxxof trumps anyway|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hA|nt|peachy: Looks like the view led to problems this time|pg||
nt|casenjo:  wow, I'm getting jammed with comments on the 1NT opener|pg||
nt|casenjo:  14 prime HCP and a 5 card suit and protecting his Kings, is very reasonable|pg||
nt|bigtrain: KNR values the hand at 14.50 so it's in the ballpark for an upgrade|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I would probably stretch this to a 1NT opener also|pg||
nt|sybarra: if you open a club what is your rebid? |pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c6|nt|sybarra: that is the problem |pg||
nt|bigtrain: how about 1NT :)|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Yes, I like 1NT in all seats with this hand|pg||
nt|peachy: http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi for those who want to have a look at the K&R hand evaluator|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I think it is a litte too good for the 1NT rebid, and agree with Shirley|pg||
nt|gambit: this has no play, wish him luck |pg||
nt|bigtrain: it's not imo...  if the J were in any other suit i'd agree though|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Meckstroth's double of 2@D also seduced North in believing his singleton was big, knowing partner doesn't have much in Diamonds|pg||
nt|gambit: note how Rodwell did not lead a diamond....what does that say?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  we do have a possible swing board coming up, so stay tuned|pg||
nt|gambit: I throw it out there, I don't know and he WAS RIGHT....so I guess he knows what he is doing, funny thing that for a world class player|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|joest: n-s bidding without a lot of high cards|pg||
pc|d2|nt|casenjo:  Meckwell have been playing together since 1978...without any break in partnership....they get to know a lot about style.....more than husband and wife ;)|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|c2|nt|gambit: he made the best lead because he is a world class player, nothing more, nothing less, he is great|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h2|pg||
nt|casenjo:  ok, I asked for this one, kibbitzers now asking if I played with 'Drewsky' Casen when we were married|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Not only did we play together, but it was ONLY time we NEVER fought|pg||
nt|gambit: neat play , though delaying the inevitable|pg||
nt|sybarra: I have operated for Meckwell agst various opps many times |pg||
nt|casenjo:  VERY TRUE!  If I played poorly, he only found kind things to say.  If I played well, he said nothing, which is often best.  When we finished very high in a Men's event (while married), I asked him, "Why are you such a wonderful partner and such |pg||
nt|sybarra: interesting dynamic,  calm, pleasant, intense, fun in many ways |pg||
nt|sybarra: difficult to describe|pg||
nt|casenjo:  a horrible partner?" His answer: "I'm a professional bridge player, not a professional husband"|pg||
nt|casenjo:  excuse me; it was horrible husband|pg||
nt|begse: 2 içeri belki 3|pg||
nt|begse: sry|pg||
nt|joest: Zia falsecarded at trick one but that would seem to make it more likely, rather than less likely, north has the club king|pg||
pc|h9|nt|famus: hi--correct|pg||
pc|c3|pc|hK|nt|casenjo:  Great bridge player, great dad,great teacher, great golfer, backgammn player and poker player....lousy husband|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|c9|nt|joest: so Zimmerman will give up an imp here but roll home|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3SKJ75HA98DA86C976,SQT4HJ2DKQT953CKJ,S32HQ543D72CQ5432,SA986HKT76DJ4CAT8|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|nt|barnets: Zia did not open 1N with asinglton spade|pg||
nt|henryb:  more straightforward 3Ns|pg||
nt|barnets: and they are in 5@C|pg||
mb|r|nt|barnets: which is unfortunately for them down 1|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|nt|barnets: with 4@H a likely make|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: so Monaco unjustly will gain some points on 10|pg||
nt|henryb:  really hard to reach 4@h|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d6|nt|barnets: all 5@C needed was an onside @DA|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg||
nt|barnets: for a vul game and 1n had 7 top losers|pg||
nt|henryb:  not if that ace was onside|pg||
nt|barnets: no true|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|s4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  yes|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s9|nt|barnets: he can play low here|pg||
nt|barnets: and if west does not ruff win in hand and lead the @HQ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|barnets: that will be down 1|pg||
pc|c4|pc|h6|pc|h9|nt|barnets: had west ruffed he could overuff and stillbe down 1|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|s7|pc|d5|pc|h4|mc|6|nt|barnets: very nice end |pg||
pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3SKJ75HA98DA86C976,SQT4HJ2DKQT953CKJ,S32HQ543D72CQ5432,SA986HKT76DJ4CAT8|sv|b|nt|gambit: here comes an interesting hand................Cayne by 31|pg||
nt|bigtrain: this should be interesting|pg||
nt|ritong: other room on board 64  we will have direct comparisons all along|pg||
nt|joest: they are on the final board in the open room|pg||
mb|p|nt|aitch99: it was quite conservative of Rodwell to pass the 1NT|pg||
mb|1C|nt|bigtrain: might even be totally constructive|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any shape|pg||
nt|joest: not clear that the Nickell east-west pair collected enough against 1@h doubled|pg||
nt|joest: we will see|pg||
nt|daman: strange result here|pg||
nt|daman: i like 3 NT|pg||
nt|joest: at the other table Helgemo doubled 1@c which led to the contract of 1@h doubled|pg||
mb|2D!|an|GF natural|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@S = 5+@H GF|pg||
mb|2H|nt|joest: in the other room Ralph Katz had to decide whether to sit 1@h doubled.|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1NT is control asking|pg||
nt|aitch99: whoops i think this is wrong|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|casenjo:  Let's focus on this hand people|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 3 controls (A = 2 K = 1)|pg||
nt|ritong: heavy @d guess|pg||
nt|casenjo:  another partial battle|pg||
nt|joest: Having a double argues in favor of it.  Having an unmentioned KQ109xx suit argues against it|pg||
nt|joest: having a doubleton heart I mean|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|gambit: ty big train for system notes, that really helps us all |pg||
nt|sybarra: Walter how does he show the club void?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  bigtrain will walk you through theauction|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Getting to 7 would be a swing for Nickells|pg||
nt|bigtrain: probably not until the keycard level|pg||
nt|gambit: will Versace venture in with 4@C?|pg||
pc|c3|nt|daman: here is the vugraph schedule for future session    please bookmark it    http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
pc|c8|nt|bigtrain: if meck had a fit it would be shown as a part of a relay response|pg||
nt|ritong: bingo|pg||
pc|c9|nt|bigtrain: XX is penalty|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|bigtrain: hoping for a couple of clubs with partner :)|pg||
nt|joest: my personal take is that Ralph took a pretty deep position|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dJ|nt|sybarra: bet that is a splinter|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 5@C is exclusion RKC|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|gambit: look at Rodwell's hand, and his partner has opened a forcing club, and shown a balnced NT, he is salivating|pg||
nt|sybarra: ok exc |pg||
nt|sybarra: sorry |pg||
nt|bigtrain: 5@D = 3|pg||
nt|sybarra: exc or voidwood |pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dQ|nt|bigtrain: 5@H = queen ask|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 5N Q with no kings|pg||
nt|gambit: behind in the match....the grand has to be on the table|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I would think Rodwell will bid this one........but what do I know?|pg||
nt|joest: anyway Zimmerman looks like they will pick up about 10 imps or so|pg||
pc|dK|nt|daman: yes and yes|pg||
pc|c2|pc|h6|pc|dA|pg||
nt|sybarra: taaaaaaaaadaaaaaa |pg||
nt|bigtrain: he knows 14 of the points...  and is unsure how many are in clubs|pg||
pc|c6|nt|gambit: as predicted, wd Eric|pg||
nt|casenjo:  For those of you who told me the fatlady was singing, It ain't over til it's over ;)|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg||
pc|dT|nt|ritong: uh oh...|pg||
nt|sybarra2: are we crashing again?|pg||
nt|ritong: omijnous "break in tempo"...|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d9|pc|c5|pc|s8|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d5|pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|c7|pg||
nt|joest: time to guess the heat|pg||
nt|joest: heart|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg||
pc|cA|pc|sJ|pc|h2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|sT|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hT|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|hQ|pg||
pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SKJ953HQDQT6CJ986,SQ762HT965DK4CT32,SAT84HAKJ743D8CA7,SH82DAJ97532CKQ54|sv|o|nt|barnets: position|pg||
nt|barnets: for down 1 |pg||
nt|henryb:  I think the defense could have done better if W had led a high @d at some earlier point|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: when we saw helgemo down in 4@D Zia hamman bid 5@D|pg||
mb|1H|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|barnets: 12 tricks available to n/s in major suit|pg||
nt|henryb:  do you double, and convert 4@c to 4@h, or bid 3@h as N|pg||
nt|barnets: I would x|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb:  Actually, 12 tricks are not available in either major|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: It was NIck thinking at the end|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|nt|henryb:  with the bad spade break|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cA|nt|barnets: south has dificulty picking spades on 2 rounds of diamonds|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s4|nt|henryb:  On this shift, however ...|pg||
nt|barnets: yes i just saw|pg||
pc|d7|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg||
nt|barnets: he cant do it when dummy is forced even by running spade 9|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sT|nt|barnets: west would surely have played a second @D in slam|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|c8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|sA|mc|12|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SKJ953HQDQT6CJ986,SQ762HT965DK4CT32,SAT84HAKJ743D8CA7,SH82DAJ97532CKQ54|sv|o|nt|joest: so what would you do as dealer George|pg||
mb|1D|nt|daman: bid some @Ds'|pg||
mb|1S|nt|casenjo:  down to an 18 imp difference in 2 boards! 19 to go|pg||
nt|daman: you?|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: well I guess how many was the question :)|pg||
nt|joest: 1@d most days|pg||
mb|3D!|an|4 card !S raise limit+|nt|daman: 1@D seems right|pg||
nt|joest: it certainly seems normal, which has a lot going for it!|pg||
nt|daman: now we''l see what happens|pg||
nt|joest: I doubt Mr. Hamman expects a lot of cooperation from Zia|pg||
mb|4D|nt|gambit: neg...|pg||
nt|joest: I could see him driving this to slam by himself frankly|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: yes...  a best he could do negative X :)|pg||
nt|joest: it's a big bid but not out of the realm|pg||
nt|daman: 6 is down on @D and another @D    yes?|pg||
mb|p|mb|4N|nt|daman: 6@H looks to be gin|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  2@H = 5+ hearts and 4+ minor|pg||
mb|5C|nt|gambit: pity the penalty double has been lost here, see last night Zia's last board if you don't believe me|pg||
nt|daman: in 6@H    low @D to King and a @S ruff|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: let's see if they even get there|pg||
mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d8|nt|daman: just a lazy Sunday afternoon     4400 kibitzers     |pg||
nt|daman: and they all have an opinion|pg||
pc|d2|nt|bigtrain: looks like scrambling 8 tricks here|pg||
nt|joest: i think it's cold George as long as he takes a first round spade hook|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|daman: he was always finessing the @S|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s4|nt|joest: takes the tap crosses to the heart queen picks up the trumps returns to his hand with a heart ruff, etc.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|d5|pg||
nt|daman: nice|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sT|nt|casenjo:  Dave Dressman correctly pointed out that Rodwell knowsSOuth is marked with length in spades on the auction|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|sA|pc|d9|nt|joest: now this hand is in Zia's wheelhouse. He lives for these|pg||
pc|s5|nt|casenjo:  he doesn't need to test spades immediately|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|h4|nt|joest: ?|pg||
nt|daman: huh?|pg||
nt|daman: undo|pg||
nt|joest: he led the spade ace first operator|pg||
nt|joest: i'm sure|pg||
pc|h8|pc|sJ|pc|h6|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sQ|nt|daman: uncle|pg||
nt|joest: super result|pg||
nt|daman: 11 IMPs|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pg||
nt|joest: well bid and played|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1ST42HJ983DQ98CQ85,SA63HT7DJT72CA743,SKQHAQ64DK65CKJT6,SJ9875HK52DA43C92|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfd: next-to-last board of this set|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|henryb:  IMO, the N hand is within range for a 15-17 1N|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: this is the first of 4 16-board sets for this final match|pg||
nt|barnets: can still make 6 using the @HQ as an entry for a spade fin|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: and then a heart rufd as  an entry  to draw last trump|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|barnets: makin 5 heart winners 6 spade winners anthe @CA|pg||
nt|henryb:  and then ruffing a @h to get back to pull the last trump|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Nick asks for a gets a review|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|barnets: 4@H seems a lot to me what you think henrry ?|pg||
nt|henryb:  I also would raise only to 3@h. I don't think it is worth 4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
nt|barnets: i agree|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1ST42HJ983DQ98CQ85,SA63HT7DJT72CA743,SKQHAQ64DK65CKJT6,SJ9875HK52DA43C92|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|daman: vugraph schedule    http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: please check the board number|pg||
nt|joest: George or John do you know when the second set begins?|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: as one commentator said, when we all thought he was going for his life - live by the sword, die by the sword|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 5+@D GF|pg||
nt|casenjo:  another big club auction|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT is waiting|pg||
nt|ritong: looks ok|pg||
nt|ritong: they apparently skipped the 62|pg||
nt|ritong: momentarily|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 3@H is both minors|pg||
nt|daman: this is now the penultimate hand of this session|pg||
nt|joest: Zia does not belong to the school where you respond on anything.  Good thing too|pg||
nt|daman: begins in 17 minutes   lol|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|nt|bigtrain: 62 a push looks like|pg||
nt|ritong: maybe they took 63 before 62|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: no one skipped anything the bbo server continues to freeze and forces me to restart everything|pg||
nt|joest: I just have to say that imho Zia was brilliant on that last hand|pg||
nt|joest: he catered to the layout that existed and it paid off|pg||
nt|daman: the next session is supposed to begin in 16 minutes|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pg||
pc|h9|nt|ritong: it s ok  relax nikita|pg||
pc|hT|nt|casenjo:  now Meckstroth has found the club fit!|pg||
nt|casenjo:  pretty auction|pg||
nt|gambit: low spade lead from S will scuttle any slam......|pg||
nt|casenjo:  south isn't on lead|pg||
nt|gambit: sad but rrue|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|gambit: SAD BUT TRUE|pg||
nt|gambit: nice to see V have the chance for glory |pg||
pc|hK|pg||
pc|s5|nt|bigtrain: making 140 on this one is huge|pg||
nt|bigtrain: doesn't look like it can be made|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|daman: we have been told the next session will start 20 minutes after this table has finished|pg||
nt|joest: another pick up for Nickell provided Hamman can go plus |pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h4|nt|casenjo:  no spade guess here|pg||
nt|casenjo:  diamonds split 4-3 and a ruff in dummy for 12|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg||
nt|joest: defenders got their tap suit going in time|pg||
pc|c5|nt|aitch99: in danger of going off|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
nt|joest: Hamman now developshis @d trick|pg||
pc|hA|nt|casenjo:  if they pick up 22 next quarter............|pg||
pc|h2|nt|casenjo:  Nickell has picked up 22 this quarter|pg||
pc|h3|nt|bigtrain: did that really happen?|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|daman: doesn't look good|pg||
nt|joest: so now Hamman will be tapped out while East has an entry|pg||
mc|6|nt|daman: wow|pg||
nt|joest: so here comes the last hand of the set|pg||
pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2ST8753HAQJ7D6CK93,SA964H932DT43CQ76,SQJ2H4DKQ85CA8542,SKHKT865DAJ972CJT|sv|e|nt|henryb:  butraising to 4 fits with the modern trend to raise a 15-17 1N to 3N on balanced 9 counts|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d|an|4 or 5 spades|mb|p|mb|1S|an|3 spades|nt|henryb:  there are a lot of imps to be won these days by staying low :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: here may be an example|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|barnets: there are still 3 more sets to play|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|barnets: in this great match|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c9|pc|d4|pg||
nt|barnets: this is the last board of the quarter|pg||
nt|barnets: hope you are all enjoying the show and those of you like the voice when available|pg||
nt|barnets: the next quarter will start about twenty minutes after the closed room finish|pg||
nt|henryb:  heart, heart, heart ruff, diamond ruff, heart ruff, club ruff?|pg||
nt|barnets: thanks to the acbl and of course BBO for the great show put on here|pg||
nt|barnets: and to Joe our excellent operator|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: thanks -- and thanks to Henry and Barne|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|s2|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c4|pc|sK|nt|barnets: and henry commentating here along with roland and larry on sound|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|sT|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|nt|henryb:  now no chance|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d7|pg||
mc|9|nt|barnets: cu you all shortly|pg||
nt|henryb:  looks like it should be 2 down from there|pg||
pg||
qx|c16|st||md|2ST8753HAQJ7D6CK93,SA964H932DT43CQ76,SQJ2H4DKQ85CA8542,SKHKT865DAJ972CJT|sv|e|nt|ritong: take it easy, operator just claim 920|pg||
nt|casenjo:  they will once again be the 'come from behind guys'|pg||
nt|ritong: ok|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Jack of @D lead, followed by a spade shift|pg||
nt|joest: my suspicion is that we will see 4@s here as well|pg||
nt|daman: can they stay out of game?|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|bigtrain: 2+@D 10-15|pg||
mb|1H|nt|joest: At the other table 1@c was the chosen opening bid which may have helped influenced south to just bid a gamewhen he got raised|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: X can be 5@H with GF values|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|joest: interesting  he suppresses his spades to play for penalties (I presume)|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  last board of a truly excitging match|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: but here it's "normal"|pg||
nt|daman: would you have bid 1@S Joe?|pg||
nt|joest: Yes I would.  I admit it|pg||
nt|daman: Jack   sorry|pg||
nt|joest: but pass is certainly more exciting|pg||
pc|s5|nt|joest: this is the second time this set that the Nickell team has 'taken a view' by defending 1@h doubled|pg||
pc|s4|nt|bigtrain: something happened to board 61 result...  thats why score changed|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
nt|joest: it didnt work last time|pg||
pc|cT|nt|casenjo:  more or less the same auction at the other table|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Please return for an exciting 4th quarter!!!|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Wow, slow down guys, too many questions!|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Board 61 is now correct as Henri says|pg||
nt|bigtrain: it looks like things are a bit messed up so we'll have to wait for comparasions to see who wins|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: will not take long|pg||
nt|casenjo:  And yes Meckstroth made 2@H, shortens his trump length to the same as North and throws him in to pick up the trump suit|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Thanks to Cam, Walter and all my co-commentators|pg||
nt|kareno: Don't give up your seats, specs!!  |pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i think this score is correct...  but once again unofficial|pg||
nt|daman: whew|pg||
nt|Walddk4: We will continue with voice commentary from the open room in the second segment. Larry Cohen and I will be back for that. Remember to use the web version if you want voice ...|pg||
nt|Walddk4: commentary|pg||
nt|Walddk4: www.bridgebase.com  Play Bridge Now   log in and click on Vugraph, open room|pg||
nt|joest: while we have a sec, thanks to our operator John|pg||
nt|joest: good job|pg||
nt|daman: they shd get 7 tricks on D    no?|pg||
nt|joest: Multon may be off a card playing Hamman for 4=1=4=4 or 4=0=4=5|pg||
nt|joest: it looks to me like Zia's shot will pay off here|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|casenjo:  breakk should be about 15-20 minutes|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg||
nt|pfbr: i so hope so :)|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Thanks alot to the one with the toughest job...our vugraph operator|pg||
nt|gambit: thy to our VuG operator Dan, and the specs....see you for the final segment?|pg||
pc|s3|nt|casenjo:  For those that have been asking for Vugraph room to be kept open: we do not control that|pg||
nt|bigtrain: ;http://www.bridgewinners.com/  for final results|pg||
nt|ritong: but nikita does|pg||
nt|casenjo:  But you can look at BBO's vugraph history tomorrow and see it all|pg||
nt|bigtrain: http://www.bridgewinners.com/ |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: thanks everyone for your patience!|pg||
nt|daman: this is not good|pg||
nt|joest: even though Zia must put declarer in dummy, the two pitches do not help him|pg||
nt|joest: he may just take the ruff in hishand to be honest|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|casenjo:  I could NEVER do vugraph operator job, tough one|pg||
nt|peachy: Thanks all :)|pg||
nt|ritong: no problem at all|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|d4|nt|ritong: technical issues are frequent|pg||
nt|casenjo:  go to Vugraph Archive and look at Spingold Semi FInal Cayne/Nickell 4th quarter|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Nikita, you were awesome|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|h8|nt|joest: now Zia just takes a minor suit ruff and waits for his 2 naturals|pg||
pc|s7|nt|casenjo:  It is so tough to lose connections and get back online, especially since the players do not wait for you! @H|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Thanks again to Henri and Walter for great commentary|pg||
nt|ritong: so please let us know as soon as possible|pg||
nt|fifee: quite a match|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|bigtrain: this could go late into the night as there may be an appeal for 4 IMPs|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: have a good night from Toronto thanks all for tuning in !!|pg||
nt|ritong: ow|pg||
nt|casenjo:  If you want to see previous quarters, they will be on Vugraph Archive also|pg||
nt|joest: 6 to Nickell who will trail by 4 at the quartr|pg||
nt|joest: quarter|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h7|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg||
nt|joest: thanks George|pg||
mc|6|nt|joest: and thanks toall the kibitzers!  |pg||
nt|daman: see you next session|pg||
nt|daman: thanks Jack|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: back in 15 minutes or so|pg||
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