vg|2011 Spingold Final,Segment 3 of 4,I,33,48,Monaco,75,Nickell,60|
rs|4SN=,4SN+1,6HW=,6HE=,2HW=,3HE-1,3CN=,3CN-2,6HS=,6HS+1,5SE=,5SE=,3NE=,3NE=,2HE-2,3DN-1,1NW-1,1NW=,4HE+1,3SS-2,4HS+1,4HS+1,1NE=,2NE-1,3NS-1,3NS-3,4DS-1,1NW+1,4SN=,4SN=,6CW-2,4NW-1|
pn|Nunes,Rodwell,Fantoni,Meckstroth,Zia,Helgemo,Hamman,Helness|pg||
qx|o33|st||md|3SAKJ2HQT764DK76CJ,S64HAKJ32D854CA63,SQT93H5DAJ2CKQ987,S875H98DQT93CT542|sv|o|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|barnets: hi can you put the names in please|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|hT|nt|rain:  Hi everyone. In addition to Barnet Shenkin, you can also "hear" some experts speak in this room. You can only hear them if you are using the new BBO version. Anyway, if you have problems, there is a sliding volume thingy you can adjust. |pg||
pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: 2@C=(9)-10-13 HCP, 5+@C unbal  [6@C = unbal but 6322 maybe 1N]|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|rain:  Also, please leave this room and return if you do not hear anything. |pg||
nt|inquiry:  but first click on the green arrow next  to commentors name and slide the volume control to the right|pg||
nt|odysseus69: maybe that should be Jack|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: sry, I lost my connection - back now but I've missed a few tricks|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c33|st||md|3SAKJ2HQT764DK76CJ,S64HAKJ32D854CA63,SQT93H5DAJ2CKQ987,S875H98DQT93CT542|sv|o|nt|casenjo:  Well, rehi to all, please be patient with the WIFI disconnects ;)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: there is an issue with the hands because it is not the right hands give me a moment to resolve please|pg||
nt|gambit: 38 imp difference, 32 boards left,,expect some fireworks |pg||
nt|casenjo:  Meckwell has lots of experience grinding out come from behind victories|pg||
nt|gambit: indeed|pg||
nt|peachy: Hi everybody|pg||
nt|jpes: its lauria and versace|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: hi all the match has begun but there is an issue with the hands so please stop asking me to change the names of the players i will do it thank you|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Operator, the spelling of the N-S names are not accurate|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Lauria|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Versace|pg||
nt|gambit: not exactly the meek vs. the meek, more like battle of the titans|pg||
nt|psyck: Hello everyone|pg||
nt|daman: here we go|pg||
nt|daman: Hi Krishna|pg||
nt|ady: if Katz has a natural 2@D opening South might try 3NT|pg||
nt|joest: Welcome to the 3rd quarter of the Spingold final|pg||
nt|joest: from Toronto|pg||
nt|joest: welcome back all|pg||
mb|1C|nt|daman: fantunes are at the other table    they are slow players|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  No problem with the names, just pretend the 'n's are 'r's|pg||
nt|daman: and we're off and pacing|pg||
nt|chthonic: NS might get overboard.|pg||
nt|ady: will fail |pg||
mb|1H|nt|casenjo:  Welcome to 3rd quarter of Spingold Semi-Finals|pg||
nt|joest: Zia proving that 3rd seat nonvulnerable is not 100% forcing: even on him|pg||
nt|joest: with 11 highs and only a spade stiff, Zimmerman will toss this back in|pg||
nt|daman: I think that the next cycle begins with the 2012 Spingold Jack|pg||
nt|daman: http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/component/content/article/2-latest-news/988-hamman-joins-new-team-for-next-cycle|pg||
nt|joest: One common rule of thumb in fourth seat: add your HCP + your   of spades.  If 15 or more, open.  If not, pass|pg||
nt|daman: not enough pearson points to open|pg||
nt|joest: Nickell starts down 15 but they have come from behind to win the fourth quarter of both their last two matches|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: ok, color me surprised :)|pg||
mb|1S|nt|daman: that is quite a view     to pass 2@D|pg||
nt|chthonic: But not -- south did not overreact to his "points"|pg||
nt|psyck: Not the suit I'd like for a 1st seat weak 2, buf normal 2@d NV i guess|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: :)|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Hi again to Cam and Walter|pg||
nt|peachy: Hi Terry, Walter and Cam|pg||
nt|gambit: hi Jo....|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C shows 8+ minors over 1@S|pg||
nt|bigtrain: they can be 53 either way even|pg||
nt|chthonic: worked.  Was not making 3N|pg||
nt|ady: Nickell decided not enough ace  even if diamonds run  especially on a heart lead|pg||
mb|4C!|an|Shortness|nt|gambit: 4@S from Eric, what else|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|gambit: look at Meck's raise!|pg||
nt|gambit: indeed|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Rodwell just might eek out 8 tricks........|pg||
nt|gambit: Zia might not make 5@D* off three toppers|pg||
nt|bigtrain: maybe even 9|pg||
nt|peachy: Hello again|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: :)|pg||
nt|gambit: ok now|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@H is art GF|pg||
nt|joest: the theory is: either you partner has spades (which will force you to rebid which is bad) or the opponents have spades and can outbid you so your cheapest exit is passing right now|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: Hi Jo Anne|pg||
nt|gambit: delaying the inevitable|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT shows 9 minors with a singleton spade|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: 4@c a spade raise with shortness which will prompt a fast signoff|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d6|nt|ady: well bid hand    this should make on the nose|pg||
nt|psyck: with @c33, only 1 loser in each suit|pg||
nt|chthonic: Would seem to be  making, yes|pg||
pc|d4|nt|joest: George points out that the change will not take place until next year's spingold so Zia-Hamman will still play the REisinger and Vanderbilt this year|pg||
nt|daman: they need to get a @D trick before the @Cs are set up to beat|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|casenjo:  this will only make on a non-@H lead|pg||
nt|gambit: Can N lead a heart? |pg||
nt|gambit: no....|pg||
pc|c7|nt|psyck: even overtrick if @s trick dissappears|pg||
nt|daman: 3NT -2 is better than -140|pg||
pc|c2|nt|gambit: will make it now|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|casenjo:  Hamman would have overcalled 1@H, he loves those good 4 card suits,, but unfortunately, he is sitting North|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|roswolf: hiall|pg||
nt|joest: hi geoffrey|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d9|nt|peachy: Nickell luck is on|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|daman: great shift|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
nt|peachy: their trademark, come back at the last minute|pg||
pc|s2|nt|joest: well this hand will not disprove the Pearson Points theory|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c8|nt|peachy: Heart lead just does not seem right, quite normal not to|pg||
pc|c4|pc|sK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|chthonic: whatever the details, it won't be much of a swing -- small score to EW in both rooms likely.|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o34|st||md|4ST963HJDT2CKT7643,SAK72HA876DKQ5CA8,S5HT532DA8743C952,SQJ84HKQ94DJ96CQJ|sv|n|nt|odysseus69: expected result so good time to miss out|pg||
mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=10-15, 2+@D|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|an|4 hearts|nt|odysseus69: slam on finesse plus|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H=4@H|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|chorush: This is a poor slam that makes, although it depends on the club finese and something reasonable in hearts|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@S = slam try relay   but now we need Walter|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|an|bad hand|nt|barnets: so 6 either major or 6N all work|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|an|relay|nt|odysseus69: i hate slams on a pure finesse and even more slams which need more and make and are bid by oppo|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|an|some  4-4-3-2 with 4 hearts|nt|barnets: still 32 hcp e/w and 2 4-4 fits|pg||
nt|barnets: hard to stay out I think|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4C|an|doubleton club|nt|chorush: the mirrored distribution is part of what makes this a less desirable slam|pg||
nt|barnets: and helgemo helness bid 6@H|pg||
nt|barnets: in closed|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|an|last train|nt|hedyg:  if you log in on the web client you can listen to voice commentary by Roland, David Greenwood and John Swanson|pg||
nt|hedyg:  that is at www.bridgebase.com|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|an|0-3 KCs|nt|rain:  Yes i can hear everyone, though jtr and swanson seem a bit soft|pg||
mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: easy for us to see its a por slam|pg||
nt|barnets: poor slam but in practice most pairs would bid this |pg||
nt|odysseus69: it would be very good to have methods which told you to keep out of this - maybe another 100 0 years needed|pg||
nt|chorush: Rodwell will start with heart K to see where, if anywhere an honor drops|pg||
pc|h3|nt|chorush: now he wont have to bother|pg||
nt|barnets: a quick 980 in closed|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: @S lead from South|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h8|nt|chorush: Rodwell should knock out the diamond before he takes the club finesse lest he go down more than 1|pg||
nt|chorush: or at least try to|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 2319 kibitzers want to tell him it doesnt matter what he does|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|c4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|c6|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s7|pc|c5|pc|sJ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|mc|12|nt|barnets: easy game|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Rodwell said it would have been better with Meck had 3 sps and 4 diamonds -- he had no way to find that out|pg||
pg||
qx|c34|st||md|4ST963HJDT2CKT7643,SAK72HA876DKQ5CA8,S5HT532DA8743C952,SQJ84HKQ94DJ96CQJ|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfc: now we are officially starting!!!|pg||
nt|ritong: hello there|pg||
nt|casenjo:  hi, Henri @H|pg||
nt|joest: well done|pg||
nt|joest: diamond shift as well as diamond underlead|pg||
nt|chthonic: Could not have anticipated that line.|pg||
nt|ady: start with 4 imps to Nickell   so all square|pg||
nt|chthonic: So, four IMPs|pg||
nt|roswolf: slam possible here|pg||
mb|1H|nt|daman: he took so long he fell asleep|pg||
nt|joest: east-west may do a lot of bidding here but their hands are 'mirroors"|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: bsr henri|pg||
nt|daman: time for a slam|pg||
nt|joest: mirrors|pg||
mb|2N!|nt|joest: Zia for once at the top|pg||
nt|daman: that will change|pg||
nt|chthonic: self-hypnosis?|pg||
nt|joest: so they will need to pick up hearts and hve the club hook work as well|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: range? Where is Al Holland when you need him?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 5+@D GF|pg||
nt|daman: hey don't play well unless they are 40-50 behind|pg||
nt|roswolf: dont think slam will be bid|pg||
mb|3N|nt|peachy: Hi Henri|pg||
nt|joest: 6NT is best b/c it can make even if hearts do not come home|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: 2NT probably a club transfer|pg||
nt|daman: Sominex Coup|pg||
mb|4H|nt|Walddk5: 15-17|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT is waiting|pg||
nt|joest: in some partnerships, 4@c now by south shows 4 clubs + 3 hearts|pg||
nt|roswolf: HH|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: but we'll see how they do it|pg||
nt|daman: trump|pg||
mb|4N|nt|ady: hardly expect a heart lead here|pg||
nt|psyck: W could have tried more on 2@d, but settled for 2@h NV|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: at this point Hamman would like to use double roman key card for hearts and clubs|pg||
mb|5D|nt|gambit: J@S lead after that auction |pg||
nt|casenjo:  Roddy knows Jeff is broke|pg||
nt|peachy: http://www.archiviobridge.it/lauria-versace.pdf  NS card. It is a WBF card but surely they havvent changed much|pg||
nt|casenjo:  For those non-Precision people, please read Bigtrain's commentary for perfect explanations|pg||
nt|tez: 8 of @s great card:)|pg||
nt|gambit: assuming E/W can unblock the clubs, this is an easy defeat |pg||
nt|casenjo:  yes, and we see it went down in the other room|pg||
nt|joest: but i don't know if they play that|pg||
nt|joest: he just cares about aces, the heart king, and the round queens|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: ace lead from AKx(x); meck's signal is standard|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Hi Walter|pg||
nt|bigtrain: hi joanne|pg||
nt|ady: ruff a diamond  cash K@C  and ruff a club  and ruff a diamond with A@H|pg||
nt|daman: Rodwell bid 2NT over 2@D|pg||
nt|ady: thats 6 tricks    then play 4th club and discard a spade|pg||
nt|chthonic: As would I.|pg||
nt|chthonic: But they are playing Precision, so it would be less likely to do so for them.|pg||
nt|chthonic: I would think|pg||
nt|daman: they always scratch for a makeable game|pg||
nt|chthonic: Can trick two be so hard?|pg||
nt|psyck: Yes, E's hand more likely to be lighter other room than this room, that did not stop Rodwell from inviting |pg||
nt|chthonic: Ace of D, ruff, cash KC, maybe play another club and pitch a spade, ....|pg||
nt|daman: look how long he took on the last one|pg||
nt|joest: Helgemo and Helness obviously open four card majors|pg||
mb|6H|nt|joest: that looks like two + a queen|pg||
nt|joest: some pairs have steps that distinguish which queen, or whether both queens|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|peachy: Glad to have Walter here, he knows Meckwell system |pg||
nt|gambit: puts terror into the heart of the declarer, he doesn't know E can't get the lead...|pg||
nt|casenjo:  for the hundres watching 'bigtrain' was my first bridge teacher at Ohio State|pg||
nt|gambit: wow...nice to have such a mentor|pg||
nt|ady: good evening all|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: this sounds like it could be to play|pg||
nt|joest: 6@c is still safer than 6@h|pg||
nt|roswolf: THE NORSEMEN ARE FEARLESS|pg||
nt|joest: good evening David|pg||
nt|ady: hi Jack|pg||
nt|joest: i'm downloading their card from the net now|pg||
nt|roswolf: e/w are very aggressive - and light openings are common|pg||
pc|sT|nt|casenjo:  I'm happy with the results :)|pg||
nt|daman: six key card that shows @C Q and not @H Q|pg||
nt|joest: thanks George|pg||
nt|roswolf: you should see some hands they have opened!|pg||
nt|ady: not a great slam    duplicated shape      but will come home|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|nt|psyck: This will probably be the last set these two pairs play, with the other two pairs finishing the final two sets|pg||
pc|hK|nt|gambit: nice lead, and fortuitous break. Wd by Roddy |pg||
nt|peachy: Rodwell might/might not be having discard trouble soon\|pg||
nt|gambit: Declarer fantazing about Kx@D onside allowing contract to make, but not today|pg||
nt|bigtrain: won't have much of a problem|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Was Meckstroth's 9@H a spade indicator?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  If so, Eric can safely pitch a spade|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h4|nt|bigtrain: yeah he really likes that 10 :)  seriously it was count...  remember they play upside-down suit preference|pg||
pc|c6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
nt|daman: right|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h3|nt|Vugraphzfc: it was double rkc|pg||
pc|h9|pc|c3|pg||
nt|daman: the sponsors alway sit out the last 2 sessions|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|joest: i suspect they will bid it in the other room too|pg||
pc|d2|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg||
nt|roswolf: e/w are norwegian and are descended from the vikings|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|c4|pc|dK|pg||
nt|ady: some impt then for Multon|pg||
pc|sK|nt|gambit: and now, cl|pg||
nt|ady: imps|pg||
nt|ady: 4 back|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s2|pc|c2|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o35|st||md|1SQ7HKJ92DT85CQ987,SKJT5HA6D742CAK54,SA643H5DKQJ6CJT32,S982HQT8743DA93C6|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 1N=14-16|pg||
nt|barnets: East stayed low bidding 2@H but n/s pushed e/w up to 3@H|pg||
nt|barnets: down 1|pg||
nt|chorush: Fantoni has a reasonable dbl here|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: seeing all 4 hands we could make the hand bur east has not that luxury|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS  1N always 12-14, includes some shapes most wouldn't expect to see    meckwell  14-16  1st/2nd/not vul 3rd    15-17 3rd vul & always 4th|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|barnets: North bid over 1n|pg||
pc|d5|nt|odysseus69: this is where we see the Meckstroth approach-he seems never to invite- either bids game or not|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|barnets: 2@D|pg||
nt|barnets: and south raised to 3 level|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|nt|chorush: I must say I am a little surprised Fantoni did not venture a dbl|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|d3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|h6|pc|s3|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d9|nt|chorush: whoa, undo|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d2|nt|hedyg:  this didnt happen|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c35|st||md|1SQ7HKJ92DT85CQ987,SKJT5HA6D742CAK54,SA643H5DKQJ6CJT32,S982HQT8743DA93C6|sv|e|nt|gambit: down to 24....|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|joest: how aggressive will Helness be oppposite a strong NT?|pg||
mb|2D!|an|!D-major|nt|roswolf: at these colors very|pg||
nt|joest: now I know some that would act with north's hand but I would not have suspected Bob: even at favorable!|pg||
mb|2H|nt|roswolf: may be able to penalise n/s|pg||
mb|3D|nt|gambit: no doubt Jeff and Eric are hoping for more shapely and imaginative hands|pg||
nt|joest: one questin to discuss with your partner if you play Drury:  is 2@c drury here or natural?|pg||
mb|p|nt|psyck: Double again?|pg||
nt|ady: did well to get our for down 1 in 3@H|pg||
nt|chthonic: Sure.  have to compete.|pg||
nt|psyck: N will not sell out easily at this vul|pg||
nt|chthonic: even favorable vul|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|chthonic: seems NS should have had a way to bid 3C non-aggressively -- a version of Good-bad, for example?|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: 3@d seems sort of straightforward but some pairs play that must be fit-showing by a passed hand in which case I guess you have to do something else|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: cards lay that this should make|pg||
nt|joest: yes the hammer was awaiting in 4 :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: I think N shd double again|pg||
pc|dT|nt|casenjo:  remember last quarter? they gained 20 in 2 boards|pg||
nt|gambit: no...venturing too high |pg||
nt|casenjo:  Patience can be a virtue.....running out of patience can be a disaster|pg||
nt|joest: anyway: a great chance for Nickell to be plus at both tables|pg||
nt|daman: In a few minutes, the Spingold Finals will begin. Use the new BBO version and you can "hear" the voice of commentators Larry Cohen and Roland Wald! http://www.br...|pg||
nt|daman: idgebase.com/index.php|pg||
nt|daman: for those who want the audio|pg||
nt|joest: Hamman may 'guess' the heart king solely bbecaus he wants to avoid a spade ruff if he loses to the king|pg||
nt|joest: note that having raised Zia leadshigh from three to clue his partner in to the fact that he has nothing in diamonds|pg||
nt|roswolf: not the greatest contract i have seen|pg||
nt|roswolf: north knows that already:)|pg||
pc|d2|nt|joest: with north known to be two suited it would not amaze me to see Helness start the @hQ out of his hand|pg||
pc|dK|nt|daman: it would be a super play|pg||
nt|roswolf: but a fair point|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|psyck: Good - Bad does not apply in this seq, it is when RHO makes a 2 level bid|pg||
nt|ady: 3@D   down 2   might have got 300   with sing. club on lead|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|gambit: he want to lead a heart but can't from that holding|pg||
nt|joest: of course from his point of view that is conceding going down unless he drops the king|pg||
pc|dA|nt|gambit: hmmm|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup david|pg||
pc|d5|nt|casenjo:  Nice lead by Jeff Meckstroth|pg||
nt|gambit: that helps the def|pg||
nt|joest: 2 diamonds + 2 clubs + 1 heart + 1 spade|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Zia ran off his clubs and managed 9 tricks|pg||
nt|gambit: how will Zia make that? He must be swinging (as predicted) already |pg||
nt|casenjo:  On Board 34, sorry|pg||
nt|bigtrain: E pitched3 spades which squeezes W in 3 suits|pg||
pc|c6|nt|daman: they keep playing 1 level lower than the OR at this table   they need to compete and push the opps up|pg||
nt|joest: yeah I think Zia's 3@d was predicated on a hope his opponents might bail him out|pg||
pc|c7|nt|casenjo:  correct|pg||
nt|gambit: q@D|pg||
pc|cK|nt|bigtrain: hamman zia never exposed south's distribution so the defense was guessing|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|ady: defenders cant attack spades with any success  and a club trick can be set up for a discard   though Katz can ruff the 3rd club  but that is with his trump trick|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|nt|casenjo:  The auction more or less gave the hand away, but now, you need the guts to underlead your Ace|pg||
pc|d9|pc|c8|pg||
nt|chthonic: As it is written, but I play it on in this sequence -- you can make it work.|pg||
nt|daman: gonna beat it 1 if he plays anything but a @S|pg||
nt|psyck: oh, you meant 3@c by S on 2@h, yes that would fit in GB, i thought you meant when N's turn|pg||
nt|chthonic: Yes.... |pg||
pc|hA|nt|chthonic: ah...|pg||
pc|h5|nt|daman: gag|pg||
pc|h3|nt|casenjo:  On the auction NOrth is marked with 5-4-4|pg||
nt|chthonic: no, I meant by south, correct|pg||
nt|ady: no sorry   of course wrong   no club can be set up|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|daman: snatched defeat from the jaws of victory|pg||
pc|h6|pc|s6|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg||
nt|casenjo:  1-5-4-3 is possible, but not likely without having shown a big hand|pg||
nt|gambit: I remember playing Barry Crane in Cobo Hall in Detroit, 1978/79 and we were killing them after 3 boards, I prayed for 4 banal, simplistic hands, alas my prayers were answered, but ...|pg||
nt|gambit: I was still as heathen, never going to church except for weddings and funerals, God forgive me |pg||
nt|gambit: See Barry and me, Google it... |pg||
nt|roswolf: it happened|pg||
pc|d8|nt|joest: so this seems to be headed two down but still 2 imps to Nickell|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|h4|pg||
nt|roswolf: the bail out i mean|pg||
pc|s9|nt|daman: fierce signal|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o36|st||md|2SQ6HA6DKT732CAKQT,SAKT53HKT5DAC8743,S742H982DQJ6CJ652,SJ98HQJ743D9854C9|sv|b|nt|chorush: they have the contract at 3H|pg||
mb|1S|nt|chorush: doesn't match the bidding|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|d|nt|barnets: here zia bid 2n after 1@S- 2@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=SemiForce    Roland's favorite phrase  [heavy sarcasm] |pg||
mb|r|nt|barnets: hammans 3@C ended the auction|pg||
mb|2C|mb|2S|nt|odysseus69: n/s have points - e/W have game|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|s6|nt|barnets: 3 rounds spades best|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Nunes is reading the Daily Bulletin from the tournament while he is dummy|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
nt|chorush: That is a good idea|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg||
nt|bigtrain: evening everyone, sorry i'm late |pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|h3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: paul soloway was known to read newspaper, listen to radio and i even saw him with portable tv to follow sports|pg||
nt|chorush: hi Walter|pg||
nt|barnets: dec has 9 if defence dont force him|pg||
nt|chorush: we needed your help on a Meckwell auction earlier|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
nt|bigtrain: b ?|pg||
nt|chorush: declarer cannot be beaten now|pg||
nt|chorush: 34|pg||
nt|chorush: if they play spade spade he will pitch heart|pg||
nt|bigtrain: eric showed a bad 4432 with a doubleton @C (jeff was relaying)|pg||
nt|barnets: in other room the def switched a heart at trick 3 and when winning @DA forced dec |pg||
nt|bigtrain: oops|pg||
nt|barnets: with  a spade |pg||
nt|bigtrain: other way...  jeff showed the bad 4432|pg||
nt|barnets: leading to down 2|pg||
nt|bigtrain: jeff just showed 4@H and 2@C...  never defined the rest|pg||
nt|chorush: however, the important point is that now Fantoni will make 3 clubs and pick up 7 imps|pg||
nt|odysseus69: not if spade spade|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|chorush: Srry I am having it pointed out to me, correctly, that spade and spade would beat this|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c36|st||md|2SQ6HA6DKT732CAKQT,SAKT53HKT5DAC8743,S742H982DQJ6CJ652,SJ98HQJ743D9854C9|sv|b|nt|casenjo:  all the defense knew was that North was short in spades, and had clubs, perhaps a negative inference that South has Spades|pg||
nt|casenjo:  There is and will ever only be ONE Barry....for those newer to Bridge, that is the long gone, Barry Crane|pg||
nt|chthonic: KS, -- really?|pg||
nt|daman: if he simply plays a @D   they are one down|pg||
nt|daman: was he hoping for -2 with a @H trick en passant?|pg||
nt|daman: really greedy play by Katz|pg||
nt|ady: defensive error   need passive defence last hand after the overruff|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is a trappy hand|pg||
mb|1S|nt|casenjo:  You could fill a good book with Barry Crane stories|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2+ (usually) 10-15|pg||
mb|2S|nt|casenjo:  A kibbitzer pointed out the 'tiredness' factor|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@H = 5@S 4+@H less than invitational|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Both 4-man teams lost yesterday|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 2+@D 10-15|pg||
mb|2N|nt|Walddk5: Photos from Toronto at  www.confsudbridge.org   courtesy of Catarina Robles|pg||
nt|daman: if partner has the @S Ace it will never go away    if he has the @S K    you are letting them make|pg||
nt|psyck: 5@c was a reasonable contract, needed @sA right or a long neck|pg||
nt|joest: now is 2NT here a strong NT or the minors?|pg||
nt|joest: it varies from partnership to partnership|pg||
nt|roswolf: aggression is the hallmark of the norsemen|pg||
nt|joest: and I can't tell what Zia intends on this one!|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: they don't play Sandwich NT I assume :)|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|gambit: I did not play WITH Barry, folow the postedlink, I played against him and Mike Smolen |pg||
nt|joest: no and fewer and fewer expert pairs do|pg||
nt|daman: yes    |pg||
nt|daman: but it has it's place with those trying to learn the game|pg||
nt|joest: in these days you can get stolen blind.  You need something to protect yourself although admittedly you always take a chance coming in the sandwich seat|pg||
nt|ady: a little high to come in at the 4 level?|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: looked the unusual variety|pg||
mb|p|pc|s8|nt|daman: 4@C is straight from hunger with no fit for partner|pg||
nt|ady: seems 4@H a make e/w|pg||
pc|s6|nt|casenjo:  ANOTHER ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE, NOW GONE|pg||
nt|joest: with the ace of diamonds only doubleton, it won't be possible to stop 7 tricks|pg||
nt|ady: can always beat 5@C  by cashing A@S  and playing a heart |pg||
nt|chthonic: Spade Ace then heart looks right, is right.|pg||
nt|joest: yes but a bit tough to reach|pg||
nt|roswolf: ultra tough|pg||
nt|ady: also 4@S makes|pg||
pc|s5|nt|daman: and maybe an endplay for 8|pg||
nt|joest: note Zia leads low in case stiff ace is onside|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|daman: easy defense to beat this   Cash the @S Ace  over to a @H   @S ruff|pg||
nt|psyck: E had no @h wastage, & bidding markd pd with short @h's, so all pd's cards should fit well, so I think 4@c bid was ok|pg||
nt|joest: on board 35, Meckwell was permitted to buy the hand in 2@h|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|chthonic: QH.....|pg||
nt|daman: y|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
nt|joest: and the jack almost certainly suggests heart strength|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h8|nt|gambit: scroll back|pg||
nt|gambit: note Rodwell did not lead a diamond in spite of his juicy holding|pg||
nt|gambit: http://cam.bridgeblogging.com/?p=7|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I just had a kibbitzer comment:" OMG! An hour to play 3 boards"|pg||
nt|gambit: sad but true|pg||
nt|ritong: cards weight heavier at that stage|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I told him:  "it is like watching paint dry. That is why I try to entertain you guys with bridge stories"|pg||
nt|bigtrain: they alllow about 9 minutes per board when playing behind screens|pg||
nt|casenjo:  But if you rather we do not, we can stop and you can watch the paint dry|pg||
nt|gambit: do we need dancing girls to keep you guys (and gals) entertained? |pg||
nt|casenjo:  Seems like most of you want to be entertained|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|Walddk5: Watch multiple tables through  www.bridgebase.com/mobile|pg||
nt|joest: don't know if Multon's diamond play was a Smith Echo (= "I hate hearts")|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|chthonic: No reason to lead AS unless stiff|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|nt|joest: anyway Zimmerman didn't continue them!|pg||
nt|ady: just down 1|pg||
nt|daman: same D in the OR|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|cK|nt|daman: can't find their system anywhere|pg||
nt|daman: basci SEF I'm sure|pg||
pc|c4|nt|casenjo:  Someone just asked what was the worst thing about my ex-husband: Only one. He was never home, not even for dinner :(|pg||
nt|bigtrain: screens divide the table in half - corner to corner|pg||
pc|c5|pc|h4|pg||
nt|bigtrain: south and west are on one side|pg||
nt|bigtrain: north aand east the other|pg||
nt|casenjo:  And the screens go down to the floor. This was after a pair was caught giving "foot signals"|pg||
nt|bigtrain: there is a small door that is opened during the play only|pg||
nt|joest: hamman hoping to see clubs break, then just know out the diamond ace|pg||
nt|joest: but no suchluck|pg||
pc|d2|nt|joest: Zimmerman appears to be headed for an endpla|pg||
nt|joest: endplay|pg||
nt|daman: yes|pg||
nt|daman: he could unblock the @S|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|nt|bigtrain: the bidding occurs on a tray that slides below the screen|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|joest: now tapping the dummy|pg||
nt|joest: and down 2|pg||
nt|ady: now can get diamond ruff|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|h6|pg||
nt|ady: yes force dummy better|pg||
nt|joest: d ruff is only down one i think|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|nt|roswolf: scissors coup|pg||
pc|h3|nt|daman: I have been give the system for EW     http://www.archiviobridge.it/multon-zimmerman.pdf|pg||
nt|roswolf: attempt|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|joest: Nickell gained 5 on board 35 when they got to play hearts one level lower|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|d4|pg||
nt|joest: thanks|pg||
nt|joest: the miracles of the web|pg||
pc|d3|pc|c8|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h9|nt|joest: so as good as Zia's hand was, it wasn't good enough|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o37|st||md|3SAQ6HAK8653DK7CQ5,S983HDAQT6CKT9763,SKJT74HQJ74DJ42CA,S52HT92D9853CJ842|sv|n|nt|chorush: if South pitched could get diamond ruff|pg||
mb|1S|nt|barnets: 6@H in closed room by zia|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S forcing, usually 14+ HCP, but with 4+@H can be 12/13|pg||
nt|barnets: west thought of saving in 7@C but eventually passed|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: 7@C does look a good save|pg||
mb|2H|an|16+ 5+ hearts|nt|ahollan1: 2@H= game force 5+@H|pg||
mb|d|nt|chorush: I have missated things a bit. At that point declarer could always make. If a 3rd spade he could ruff and play diamonds|pg||
mb|3H|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|barnets: south was bidding 4N|pg||
nt|barnets: and east stole his bid !|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|nt|barnets: 4N makes it difficult for N/s|pg||
nt|barnets: I would have bid 4@C|pg||
nt|barnets: over 2@HX|pg||
nt|barnets: to show a splinter|pg||
mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: but we dont really know their system so difficult -|pg||
nt|barnets: not always perfect with the Ace but thats life|pg||
pc|dA|nt|barnets: anyway roads lead to a flat board|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg||
mc|12|nt|barnets: should west have saved - easy seeing all the hands|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: discussion  in Italian|pg||
pg||
qx|c37|st||md|3SAQ6HAK8653DK7CQ5,S983HDAQT6CKT9763,SKJT74HQJ74DJ42CA,S52HT92D9853CJ842|sv|n|nt|casenjo:  Answer to another question: Yes, we had a baby together, he will be 23 tomorrow and is an aerospace engineer|pg||
nt|gambit: ok, here is one tale.......back in the old days, a friend of mine asked if he could use a lighter belonging to one of the opps, the answer was "I don't think someone in blue jeans ...|pg||
nt|gambit: should TOUCH a gold lighter". Who was this Mckenny winner?|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|casenjo:  15-17|pg||
nt|bigtrain: here is a picture|pg||
nt|ady: 6@H a make|pg||
nt|roswolf: this could be stratospheric|pg||
mb|2H|nt|joest: operator was tha5 150 or only 120?|pg||
nt|joest: i only counted 8 tricks after the endplay|pg||
nt|daman: what would you bid here folks?|pg||
nt|ady: nice double fit e/w|pg||
nt|chthonic: Nice psych|pg||
nt|daman: thats a Craig psyche|pg||
nt|chthonic: Zimmerman can expose with a 2S bid|pg||
nt|psyck: I'd bid 4@h on 1@h|pg||
nt|joest: :)|pg||
mb|3C|mb|3H|nt|joest: it's been corrected.  Thanks operator|pg||
nt|roswolf: east continues the club barrage!?|pg||
mb|5C|nt|gambit: pass|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Answer to another question:Best thing about Drew Casen: Answer: besides sex? GREAT bridge partner. GREAT dad|pg||
nt|bigtrain: http://www.bridgewinners.com/  here is a picture if u wanna give them |pg||
nt|chthonic: psyche is a two-syllable word...|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
nt|ady: yes as kibs mentioned a decent sac in clubs|pg||
nt|joest: that is a big bid!|pg||
nt|joest: I think Zia will just shoot out 6@h|pg||
nt|roswolf: zia may just punt the slam|pg||
nt|joest: just becauase it 'feels' like partner has a stiff|pg||
nt|roswolf: great minds think alike:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|joest: double here in modern parlance is just "I have extra values and no clear cut call"|pg||
nt|daman: 4@H will always get you 4@S by the opps|pg||
nt|daman: oh no|pg||
nt|psyck: Nickell can buy my id from me|pg||
nt|daman: Katz is thinking|pg||
nt|ady: 4@S e/w  not guaranteed to make|pg||
nt|chthonic: He does not need to buy it... he picked your pocket|pg||
nt|daman: going beyond 4@H is a sacrilege|pg||
nt|pfbr: but what does katz know?|pg||
nt|joest: let's see where a forcing pass takes him|pg||
mb|5H|nt|chthonic: Katz still thinking??  Why|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: gag|pg||
nt|chthonic: oh, no|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmmm laying doggo in the long grass|pg||
mb|6H|nt|daman: can you imagine|pg||
nt|chthonic: no, I cannot|pg||
nt|daman: this is how they get doubled|pg||
nt|psyck: now if they wake up & x, will fetch more than their game|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Katz pointed at 4@H bid|pg||
nt|daman: splinter?|pg||
nt|chthonic: Maybe they will go higher|pg||
nt|psyck: 4@h splinte, 5@h ekcb?|pg||
nt|daman: it does not pay to mastermind|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: katz in agony|pg||
nt|daman: surely he will pass this|pg||
nt|joest: Helgemo and Hellness defended that last hand well.  I believe Monaco is in a position to make 3@c right now in the other room|pg||
nt|roswolf: the forcing pass is akin to hiding away ready to spring to slam if pard shows any sign of life:)|pg||
nt|joest: Helgemo considering a seven level dive probably|pg||
nt|joest: or maybe he was gonig to remove double to 5@h to 'highly suggest' slam.  I'm not sure|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 0-7 any|pg||
nt|chthonic: Maybe system got in the way of a nice psych.|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: 7@H|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@S = 4+ forcing|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 0-5 not 4@S|pg||
nt|daman: here are the systems for the 3 pairs on the Nickell team    the 3 Nickel pairs from the USBF site - http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=655&Itemid=284|pg||
nt|daman: oh no|pg||
nt|ady: can only be good for Nickell|pg||
nt|roswolf: PLAY WILL BE QUICK|pg||
pc|c6|nt|joest: I don't think 2@s goes for enough to compensate for a red game|pg||
nt|daman: nah    they want to be in game and not defending|pg||
nt|joest: anyway Hamman didn't want to wait around to find out|pg||
nt|joest: random unbiddable spot cards can affect that kind of result|pg||
nt|daman: plus   he LOVES to play 3NT|pg||
nt|joest: i'm being told it goes 800 on a trump promo which looks right.  That is still a random result and Hamman has a lifetime experience of whether it's worth passing 2@s at these colors|pg||
nt|daman: he will play the King   and finesse a @S|pg||
nt|chthonic: ......................|pg||
nt|daman: I can't believe North's bidding|pg||
nt|psyck: 6@c=2 key cards without trump Q|pg||
pc|cA|nt|psyck: 6@h asks for 3rd round @h control for 7@s|pg||
nt|daman: in the old days      and even now        4@H would always be the last bid|pg||
nt|chthonic: what a debacle.|pg||
nt|ady: got everything right to make 11 tricks in spades OR|pg||
nt|ady: cant accuse north of fielding a psche|pg||
nt|daman: Perhaps Katz is thinking   and continues to think  that his partner is short in @Hs|pg||
nt|chthonic: As I suppose he does..|pg||
pc|c2|nt|bigtrain: just another cold game :)|pg||
nt|gambit: 10@S no choice|pg||
nt|peachy: not going down whatever he plays now|pg||
nt|peachy: but he of course does not know it|pg||
nt|gambit: this is an example of why "super accepting" has its risks, what is part had xxxxx jxx  qxx xx|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i think they play this shows a minimum with 4+trump|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@D = natural either suit can be longer|pg||
nt|joest: at the other table declarer ducked in both hands|pg||
nt|joest: Monaco did make 3@c on board 36 to gain 7 back|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|daman: not a lifetime.....only 55 years|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|daman: whoops|pg||
nt|chthonic: A premature double?|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|mc|13|nt|daman: premature burial|pg||
pg||
qx|o38|st||md|4SJ9HAKJT97D763CT3,S843H54D984CKQJ42,S75H8632DKJ2CA985,SAKQT62HQDAQT5C76|sv|e|mb|1C|an|str artificial|nt|bigtrain: 16+ any shape|pg||
nt|barnets: 5@S made in closed|pg||
mb|3H|nt|barnets: n/s competed to 5@H|pg||
mb|d|an|7+ GF|nt|bigtrain: X = GF|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 5H now?|pg||
mb|5H|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|barnets: Zia led the @HA nd switched to a diamond|pg||
nt|bigtrain: @S is an ugly contract|pg||
pc|h4|nt|barnets: this made it a little easier for dec|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|chorush: bad luck for both of the 5H bidders; Meckstroth would go back and double 5 hearts if he had the choice|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i'd much rather take the money and run here...  and be thrilled with 800 :)|pg||
nt|barnets: who may have to rely on the @D10|pg||
nt|barnets: North can duck a club|pg||
nt|barnets: win second club and play @d|pg||
nt|barnets: now dec has a guess|pg||
nt|barnets: to play @D 10 or clubs 3-3|pg||
nt|barnets: the clubs dont run|pg||
nt|barnets: one entry is no good|pg||
nt|barnets: the @s8 is only 1 entry|pg||
nt|warrens:  n|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
nt|barnets: this def is better|pg||
nt|odysseus69: club to king - d to 10 - second club- and stil trump entry|pg||
nt|chorush: This contract needs KJ of diamonds onside as well as spades 2-2 for the second entry|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cK|nt|barnets: he has to guess|pg||
nt|barnets: what to do|pg||
nt|barnets: is what I said|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|barnets: now he ducks|pg||
nt|chorush: guess he will run the diamond 9|pg||
nt|odysseus69: he has to believe their count signal- South had to tell truth|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: @C3 is upside down count|pg||
nt|barnets: North could have played @C9|pg||
nt|barnets: on first trick|pg||
nt|barnets: to confuse|pg||
nt|barnets: mtters|pg||
nt|odysseus69: b ut South is the one without ace- the honest one|pg||
nt|barnets: had north played the 8 which might be better maybe south had 4|pg||
nt|chorush: normally clubs 3-3 is better than the double diamond finesse but EW did a lot of bidding to expect such flatness|pg||
nt|barnets: anyway its certainly not clear to meck who is one of the worlds best cardplayers|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
nt|barnets: well done|pg||
nt|barnets: very nice play|pg||
nt|odysseus69: anyway both said even - could North have AX - South-2-6-1-4 -possible I suppose|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|mc|11|pg||
qx|c38|st||md|4SJ9HAKJT97D763CT3,S843H54D984CKQJ42,S75H8632DKJ2CA985,SAKQT62HQDAQT5C76|sv|e|nt|gambit: sometimes (at thsi level) you can count on opps to do the right thing|pg||
nt|daman: no idea why he hung onto that @S|pg||
nt|daman: they had them set up beautifully     for about 20 seconds|pg||
mb|1S|nt|bigtrain: its a forced shift since he knows @C pitches coming|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Board 53 narrowed the gap even more.|pg||
nt|casenjo:  We now have a mere 7 IMP match|pg||
nt|chthonic: my goodness.... opportunities flying about the table and on one picked any up.|pg||
mb|2H|nt|chthonic: no one|pg||
nt|chthonic: could have picked up six IMPs improbably, but felt relieved, I imagine to have avoided a major loss.|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: all true|pg||
nt|joest: uh no|pg||
nt|joest: Helness raised to 2@s on a lot less a few hands ago|pg||
nt|joest: of course he was nonvulnerable|pg||
mb|4H|nt|joest: note that Hamman has both majors for his double.  I sometimes see newer players double with only one major here|pg||
nt|joest: looks like a trick got away in the open room in 4@c|pg||
nt|joest: ace and a spade looks like a likely suspect|pg||
nt|joest: what would you bid here George?|pg||
nt|daman: @D Q was led|pg||
nt|daman: I would cuebid|pg||
nt|chthonic: After that excitement, the players have to calm down and play each hand as if it were the only one that matters.  No matter how mundane.|pg||
nt|joest: let's take a look at this again operator|pg||
mb|4S|nt|daman: 2NT must be some form of Dormer limit raise|pg||
nt|joest: 2NT by some pairs here is "four card limit raise"|pg||
nt|daman: no support double as you can see|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|gambit: OK, here is a wild one....what bridge player was rescued by his uncle "Bugsy Seigal" after falling into the family pool?|pg||
nt|ady: going overboard again|pg||
nt|psyck: I would not make a supp x with E's hand even playing supp x|pg||
nt|daman: neither would I|pg||
nt|psyck: Need better than a 4333 min hand for it|pg||
nt|chthonic: Yes, too flat a hand.  Support doubles should not be played mandatory -- judgment counts.|pg||
mb|5H|nt|joest: on an equivalent auction at the other table, north bid 4@c|pg||
mb|d|nt|casenjo:  Wow and just told only a 2 imp difference in the other match with 10 boards to go|pg||
nt|gambit: the player in blue jeans was a friend, Doug Fox|pg||
nt|gambit: indeed Soloway it was|pg||
nt|joest: turns out 3@d can't make|pg||
nt|daman: as did hamman|pg||
nt|daman: but they have 4 losers|pg||
nt|joest: if they cash them|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: Meck?|pg||
nt|joest: that didn't prove so easy in the open room|pg||
nt|daman: but I wouldn't have bid 4@C with the west hand on board 20 either|pg||
nt|ady: very nice lay for e/w   can make 11 trricks in spades|pg||
mb|5S|nt|casenjo:  2@H is a friendly little contract with 3-3 hearts and 3-3 spades|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: 5 IMPs riding on it|pg||
nt|joest: this was the start next door, followed by ace and a spade|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: East hand *|pg||
nt|chthonic: Orttman would do well here...|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: Doug asked Ron if he he borrow thelighter...|pg||
nt|daman: if He leads the @S Ace    he can make|pg||
nt|ady: even 4@C can go down|pg||
nt|roswolf: the norsemen wield the axe|pg||
pc|hK|nt|joest: and in fairness to West if a low spade comes back, a spade return (for a possible ruff) looks more appealing than leading away from the heart king|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|nt|gambit: after Ron denied permission I guess Doug did notheng, no idea|pg||
nt|daman: yes it does|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|gambit: @D through|pg||
nt|casenjo:  An interesting note, that applies to this match. Paul Soloway once said, "The average hand is a partial, the average hand is boring, the average hand I have played too many times to count...concentrating on ALL the hands is winning bridge"|pg||
pc|d7|nt|gambit: the words of a champion and gentleman, brb|pg||
nt|ritong: in fact the trick is to recognize quickly the hands you can relax a bit, in order to save energy|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Boards 51 and 53 won 10 IMPS both determined by 'parials'|pg||
nt|casenjo:  partials|pg||
nt|joest: 5@h was a bold move by Hamman imho|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|nt|casenjo:  At this level, it is often the partials that win the event and not the slams.|pg||
nt|joest: voila|pg||
nt|daman: and there it is|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm inspired bid by west|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s3|nt|psyck: how should the bidding have gone after 2@c?|pg||
nt|daman: perhaps    2@D   or 2@H by South|pg||
nt|chthonic: Yes, 3D a bid extreme.|pg||
nt|chthonic: 3C is a tiny underbid -- maybe worth one cue bid -- 2H|pg||
nt|psyck: yes, I think both could bid less, though all comments so far are about S bidding less|pg||
nt|psyck: 4@d is as aggresive as 3@d in my opinion|pg||
nt|chthonic: I think South's choice of bids over the "free" 2C bid is crucial.|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s4|nt|chthonic: The club honors are almost redundant to the implied length.  Not enough "juice" in the majors for the 3D bid.|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|ady: not a fgood move by west  feel removing 5@HX|pg||
pc|d2|nt|joest: so a push at 130 and both east wests will be glad to see it|pg||
nt|ady: 11 tricks  fortunate |pg||
nt|joest: all's well that ends well|pg||
nt|joest: Hamman's play of the jack at T2 left this situation in doubt but Helness really can't gowrong.  He can ruff our clubs and reenter the dummywith the spade 8|pg||
nt|ady: needed spades 2-2 to gain 2nd entry to play diamonds   and KJ diamonds onside |pg||
nt|joest: Fantoni-Nunes also bid 6@h on board 37|pg||
nt|roswolf: probably suspects a doublecross|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg||
nt|daman: losing just 6|pg||
pc|c7|nt|gambit: b|pg||
nt|ritong: so we have 11 comparisons left|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|nt|psyck: vul opps opened & responded, both NS should have shown more respect & bid less|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|daman: no harm   no foul|pg||
nt|chthonic: True|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|dT|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|sQ|nt|joest: If Hamman wins the second club and makes that play, now declarer must guess between the hook and clubs 33|pg||
nt|joest: no longer the option of ruffing them good|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o39|st||md|1SKQ7HQ97DJ8CQT942,SA432HA4DA9653CJ3,SJT6HT82DKT74C765,S985HKJ653DQ2CAK8|sv|b|nt|odysseus69: well done Meckstroth|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Meck "if that had gone down, we were going to take a little break"|pg||
nt|barnets: its easy for us when we can see all the hands|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 2+ 10-15|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|bigtrain: 2@C = art GF|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|nt|bigtrain: 2@D = 5+@D < 3@H|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|an|relay|nt|bigtrain: 2@H asks denying a @S fit|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 5@D only|pg||
nt|chorush: as it happens they right-sided this contract|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg||
nt|barnets: with hearts splitting 9 easy tricks|pg||
nt|bigtrain: meckwell never bypass a 4-card @S suit on this auction|pg||
nt|chorush: starting diamonds has some attraction|pg||
nt|barnets: yes|pg||
nt|hedyg:  so does @H|pg||
nt|barnets: he can try that then go back to heats|pg||
nt|barnets: if diamond loses still time for hearts|pg||
nt|chorush: hearts seems a bit less desiorable due to entry considerations|pg||
nt|hedyg:  he must go for @H while he has a sure entry to hand|pg||
nt|barnets: except he can get cut off|pg||
nt|bigtrain: the problem with that is the entries to his hand are few and far between|pg||
nt|barnets: from the hearts|pg||
nt|barnets: with only club entry|pg||
nt|barnets: another tricky decision|pg||
nt|odysseus69: seems clear- got to play hearts|pg||
nt|chorush: well, I will go with whatever Meckstroth decides. |pg||
pc|hA|nt|hedyg:  also ofc the @hs are better than the @ds|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
nt|hedyg:  how kind of you Ira LOL|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: reverse Smith for NS|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s4|pc|c5|pc|h5|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
nt|odysseus69: an imp an imp my...maybe got it wrong again|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg||
nt|barnets: the heart suit alone was more th 60 percent for 4 tricks|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|d5|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h6|nt|chorush: no, he just wanted an endplay available if hearts did not break|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c39|st||md|1SKQ7HQ97DJ8CQT942,SA432HA4DA9653CJ3,SJT6HT82DKT74C765,S985HKJ653DQ2CAK8|sv|b|nt|casenjo:  6 Imp difference and 10 boards to go|pg||
nt|ady: down 2     would think that west would have competed to £@D   so 4@C  would be the lowest they could have played|pg||
nt|ady: 3@D|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: Of course Barry murder never solved, a sad blight on justice|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ady: this should be flatish unless e/w get too busy|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|gambit: no overcall, maybe Meck will spring to life |pg||
nt|daman: 1NT - 3NT here|pg||
nt|joest: interesting to see what lead Zia chooses.  Nothing is particularly appealing|pg||
nt|daman: low @S lead|pg||
mb|1S|nt|gambit: too rich for 3S, will bid 4|pg||
nt|gambit: or some treatment|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT = limit raise|pg||
nt|gambit: hell of a LR |pg||
nt|ritong: ?|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3nt seems pre-destined|pg||
nt|ady: will play 3NT e/w|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|casenjo:  3@S should make, losing a @S, 2@H and 1@C|pg||
nt|casenjo:  North opened 2@H|pg||
nt|ritong: we might miss a pass|pg||
nt|bigtrain: extra pass operator|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: here comes 4@S|pg||
nt|daman: low @D could be fatal|pg||
nt|chthonic: This hand is not crucial.... opening lead of a heart would hold to three..  now time to set up a tenth trick?  Seems likely|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  Again, the partial and not shooting for the stars, should produce a nice gain for Nickell|pg||
nt|ritong: i am sure EW would declare game if left to themselves|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: director call at the moment by meckstoth|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Meckstroth*|pg||
nt|ritong: which one is an other story|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: oh never mind its for the restroom...|pg||
nt|gambit: or puff....|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Rodwell has a wonderful habit of thinking at trick 1|pg||
nt|gambit: Well the crime scene suggested as much |pg||
nt|casenjo:  He is consistant and does it every hand, even if it doesn't matter|pg||
nt|daman: 4th from your longest and strongest|pg||
nt|joest: Hamman may well play his spade honors 'out of order', first king then queen to indicate that he has KQ doubleton|pg||
nt|daman: right|pg||
mb|p|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c5|nt|gambit: no|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|peachy: not too far off, just spade fin working|pg||
nt|joest: i've learned just to say 'may well' :)|pg||
nt|daman: the @S 9 would be cool now|pg||
nt|chthonic: Why not run the diamonds?|pg||
nt|ady: little problem when J@C holds|pg||
nt|roswolf: always likely to get a trick on the lead|pg||
nt|ady: choice of plays that all seem to work|pg||
nt|joest: which red suit will he work?|pg||
nt|roswolf: diamonds look convenient|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|bigtrain: i'm pretty sure meck off tabacco currently...  but changes status frequently :)|pg||
pc|h3|nt|jtr: God!|pg||
nt|daman: Hi David|pg||
nt|jtr: Sorry:(|pg||
nt|pfbr: hi david :) nice introduciton :)|pg||
nt|daman: you don't have to call me God|pg||
nt|joest: Multon knows he is down if the heart king is off|pg||
nt|chthonic: And now a heart --|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|h4|nt|chthonic: sooner or later|pg||
pc|h8|nt|bigtrain: 3@D is a help suit game try in theory although space is limited so it is somewhat random|pg||
nt|casenjo:  same contract in other room|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Oftentimes, a hand may look so easy and you might do lttle errors like winning the first trick in the wrong hand|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Jeff and Eric were both born in 1956|pg||
nt|joest: now he is cold with no further finesses|pg||
nt|joest: besides the heart|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ritong: excellent year|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|roswolf: guessed well|pg||
nt|joest: assuming declarer has five hearts, Zia can see that declarer has nine tricks now|pg||
nt|joest: on the last board Meckstroth and Rodwell alsopushed to 5@s|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|nt|daman: Helness switched to a @D|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cK|pg||
nt|chthonic: now we have burned the bridges to diamonds... |pg||
pc|hK|nt|joest: so long as he plays clubs into the safe hand|pg||
pc|h9|nt|daman: I might have won the @C Ace and played another @S after my partner signalled with the 2     I'm sure ralph has a good reason for ducking|pg||
pc|d3|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ady: that looks best to hold to 9 tricks|pg||
pc|cT|nt|peachy: close games are bid when vul|pg||
pc|s2|pc|c6|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d8|nt|daman: S is squeezed now|pg||
nt|daman: no   West didn't keep the 3rd @H|pg||
nt|daman: he might have to maroon the @H King |pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|s3|nt|joest: Zia about to be squeezed|pg||
nt|daman: squeezed|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dA|nt|daman: costly @H switch|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|daman: et les voici    here they are|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ady: we are around 4 boards behind|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s5|pc|c2|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg||
pg||
qx|o40|st||md|2SAKJTHQ54DAJ63CJT,S432HT93DK874CK63,S875HK76DQT92CQ98,SQ96HAJ82D5CA7542|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2@D = 3-suiter short @D can be 43 in majors|pg||
mb|2D|mb|d|mb|r|nt|bigtrain: XX asks 4=card major|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|Vugraphzfd: about RR Meck says he thinks but is not sure Rod wants him to bid major|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Meck sayss that Fantoni may ask Rodwell to be sure, if he wants to|pg||
nt|barnets: at least walter knows the system|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: meck "we'll see now"|pg||
pc|sA|nt|Vugraphzfd: RR = bid your cheapest 4-cd major|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d3|nt|Vugraphzfd: I've heard it said before that Walter knows the system better than they do :)|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|h2|nt|barnets: closed room 4 boards ahead|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|h8|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c4|pc|dA|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|h6|nt|barnets: 7 v7 so far this set|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c7|pc|sT|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sJ|nt|barnets: spade|pg||
nt|barnets: good def here|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|c40|st||md|2SAKJTHQ54DAJ63CJT,S432HT93DK874CK63,S875HK76DQT92CQ98,SQ96HAJ82D5CA7542|sv|o|nt|casenjo:  New leader|pg||
nt|gambit: wow|pg||
nt|gambit: fabulous match, the way it should be|pg||
nt|gambit: maybe 1NT all pass , other table in 3@D|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i bet meck bids over 1NT|pg||
nt|joest: biggest swing of the match so far|pg||
nt|daman: in the other room   East bid @Hs|pg||
nt|daman: hard to believe with fantunes at the other table|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|gambit: sybarra2: Are you the gagging police? |pg||
nt|joest: 10-13|pg||
nt|daman: In the OR East bid @H ART. Here, unless Multon opened on 14 he had to have the HQ to make up his count|pg||
nt|joest: good point George|pg||
mb|d|nt|sybarra: B does not have a star but is a star,  and instructor LOL|pg||
nt|ady: have to duck the opening heart lead if east plays 3NT|pg||
nt|daman: 3NT was quite a reach in the OR|pg||
nt|daman: but it couldn't be avoided I suppose|pg||
mb|2C|nt|casenjo:  4@S on this hand in other room|pg||
nt|sybarra: sorry all privie|pg||
nt|casenjo:  So much for the 'fat ladies' out there|pg||
nt|ritong: now please.|pg||
nt|ritong: either you keep the private things private or i will take measures.|pg||
nt|daman: looks cold    5@Cs   3@Ss   1 @H|pg||
nt|joest: an interesting call|pg||
mb|2D|nt|gambit: I thought we were friends...guess we can't talk about barry or whatever...|pg||
nt|ady: cold  because we see all 4 hands|pg||
mb|3C|nt|gambit: 3@D?|pg||
nt|joest: but one that enables his partner to compete to 3@c|pg||
nt|ady: part score     diamonds best for n/s|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|daman: yes   he played @Ds and not @Cs|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: on a diamond switch, declarer has 3 diamonds + 3 clubs + 2 hearts plus various angles for  9|pg||
nt|joest: 2@c here clearly for the majors|pg||
mb|p|pc|cA|nt|bigtrain: 3@S forces a 4@S bid with 3+trump|pg||
nt|gambit: what will he lead?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3NT would have been truly optional|pg||
nt|daman: if I was playing it I would play on @Cs   5-3 fit|pg||
pc|cT|nt|gambit: Q@C looks like the top of a sequence, not a stff, predict a heart|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c9|pg||
nt|ady: heart can go away on 3rd club|pg||
nt|ady: looks like 2 clubs 1 heart and a diamond    with spade finesse working|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cJ|nt|joest: Hamman ducking to prevent Multon from gaining entry to push another trump through|pg||
nt|joest: winning the jack then switching is an ominous sign|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pg||
pc|hT|nt|ady: heart back now  can be awkward|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|joest: indeed|pg||
nt|ady: cant get to hand for discard|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes indeed|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ritong: so, let s concentrate on this really breathless match|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h9|nt|psyck: you need @c anyway in 3N, only question was whether to play for @h's breaking & @s fin off in which case you need to try @d instead of @s|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hA|nt|daman: I defer to meckstroth on declarer play|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|joest: that play surpises me|pg||
nt|joest: he was going to get a chance to wina lower spade in just a moment|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|daman: nice D  no matter|pg||
nt|ady: good defence|pg||
pc|c2|pc|sT|nt|gambit: clinging to those clubs as well he should|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|dT|pc|c4|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sJ|nt|psyck: oh, i see he knew @h not breaking in other room, but played for @dA to be with S|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|daman: apparently meck apologized at the other table when he went down|pg||
nt|joest: nice defense|pg||
mc|8|nt|roswolf: very pleasing|pg||
pg||
qx|o41|st||md|3SK98H7642DQ9CKT43,SQ32HT53DKT86CQJ5,SJ654HAKQDJ753C72,SAT7HJ98DA42CA986|sv|e|nt|odysseus69: Walter do you think that the 2 diamond opener is a winner for Meckwell|pg||
nt|barnets: 4 imps for monaco|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|bigtrain: its a necessary evil|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|bigtrain: not a bad history though|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: Fantoni -Nunes rarely misdefend except on opening leads |pg||
pc|hQ|nt|bigtrain: 1NT can contain most 11s and even some really crummy 12s|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
nt|bigtrain: the lower limit is usually a goodish 7 but can tactically go lower|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|d6|pc|s6|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c6|nt|barnets: in 1N north shifted to a diamond in closed|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
nt|barnets: when south won the @CK he plyed asecond @D and dec 8 was good|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d7|pc|cA|mc|6|pg||
qx|c41|st||md|3SK98H7642DQ9CKT43,SQ32HT53DKT86CQJ5,SJ654HAKQDJ753C72,SAT7HJ98DA42CA986|sv|e|nt|gambit: need to start a @H to hold it to 5|pg||
nt|gambit: 3NT an option,,,,,|pg||
nt|gambit: 36 imps and opportunities waning|pg||
nt|bigtrain: actuaqlly its difficult to see how with best defense the lead matters...  looks like only 11 tricks regardless|pg||
nt|sybarra: and an entire set after this,   would not sell anyone short|pg||
nt|casenjo:  club lead in other room gave Hamman time for 12 trickes|pg||
nt|bigtrain: where does the 12th trick come from?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  and CAYNE is back in the lead|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Talk about excitement!!!! 8 boards to go|pg||
nt|ritong: 8 comps left|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Do not leave|pg||
nt|ritong: i guess so|pg||
nt|psyck: whech meands he played for all the rest of the high cards to be with S for the bidding|pg||
nt|ady: but should surely play clubs first    then take a view    might well get an idea after 5 rounds of clubs|pg||
mb|p|nt|chthonic: And none to N, despite the raise.|pg||
mb|1C|nt|ady: the H's are defending well|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: kibs point out that his d guaranteed a set|pg||
nt|joest: if Hamman had a stiff spade|pg||
nt|joest: good point|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes they need to|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|gambit: certainly if any team is capable of mounting a comeback it is this team, starting and ending with Meckwell, not the best in the world for nothing|pg||
nt|casenjo:  heart loser went on spades and went on his merry way cross ruffing|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra2: this doesnt look right either |pg||
nt|casenjo:  WiFi problems all day|pg||
nt|bigtrain: missing 2 passes?|pg||
nt|sybarra2: maybe missing 2 passes this time?|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: finally|pg||
nt|psyck: I defer to Meck's decision to apologize|pg||
nt|daman: a pickup for Nickell|pg||
nt|ady: heart to look|pg||
pc|hK|nt|casenjo:  yes, it is more dangerous on the commentary team than the playing teams|pg||
nt|casenjo:  But go ahead and fling your arrows|pg||
nt|chthonic: Good sized one.|pg||
pc|h8|nt|bigtrain: i'm quietly sitting in the corner waiting for things to sort themselves out :)|pg||
nt|joest: on the other hand declarer can have only two trumps left to ruff the two spades even in the worst of instances...|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ritong: heh|pg||
nt|casenjo:  We can take it......|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|casenjo:  No, you are waiting for Precision auctions. We need you for all those alerts!!!|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h2|nt|peachy: 2M in 2C-2D-2M may be canape style says card|pg||
nt|joest: I can't find the 3@c call. Perhaps puppet stayman.  |pg||
nt|daman: or    a singleton somewhere|pg||
nt|daman: 3@D asked|pg||
nt|daman: 3@S = stiff|pg||
nt|joest: it could be a transfer i now but if it were a typical follow up would be 3@s for shortness|pg||
nt|joest: ok thanks george|pg||
nt|daman: 3@C was a transfer to 3@D and 3@S showed a singleton|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: lots of whispering, no written explanations|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|gambit: Though my heart lies with Fred and his Diamond, this is the best, if track record is the measuring stick, and it should be |pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h4|nt|casenjo:  I think it will be tough for Mecstroth to find the @H lead now that Roddy hasn't double the cuebid|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ritong: walter has many pertinent comments to offer, hope he will now that our screens are a bit more unfilled|pg||
pc|d2|nt|casenjo:  italian style: shows 4-5|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|psyck: they play 2N as puppet on 1N other room|pg||
nt|psyck: EW style of opening 1M instead of 1NT on these hands cost here|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|nt|joest: declarer now just slated to lose one in each major|pg||
nt|joest: last chance to cash the spade ace here|pg||
pc|c6|nt|ritong: but, as many among us, he may dislike commentating, or playing, or defending 1NT|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ady: may be down 1 |pg||
nt|joest: these are not easy discards coming up for declarer|pg||
pc|s2|nt|joest: which I think Zia will work out|pg||
nt|joest: unless of course I am wrong :(|pg||
nt|joest: Multon doesn't know diamonds aren't 4-1|pg||
nt|joest: he would hate to unblock clubs, hook the diamond and find himself losing a diamond, a club and a spade from this point|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s7|pg||
nt|daman: he is concerned about who has the 4th @H too|pg||
nt|joest: so Hamman switched toa  low diamond.  |pg||
pc|d9|nt|ritong: so many variantes  worse than a chess board|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s8|nt|casenjo:  the problem with chess, is that I have to plan too far ahead. In bridge, only 13 tricks|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: monaco is +7 through 57|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d5|pg||
nt|joest: now he can toss Zia in and try to guess the spade|pg||
nt|roswolf: zia may be endplayed|pg||
nt|ady: end play coming up on South|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c8|nt|daman: good stuff   win !|pg||
nt|daman: 1|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: break|pg||
nt|daman: lemonade|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s5|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|mc|7|nt|roswolf: nice|pg||
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qx|o42|st||md|4SAJT8543H5D32CJ64,S7HAJ863DAKTC8532,SQ9HQ92DQJ854CA97,SK62HKT74D976CKQT|sv|b|nt|chorush: very nice defense|pg||
nt|barnets: so n/s def better here|pg||
mb|1D|an|2+ 10-15|nt|barnets: and won 5 imps|pg||
mb|3S|mb|d|nt|barnets: i am told he should have crossed with the @S not the @D|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|barnets: east passed south opend 3@S end|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: lead is even   without honor or odd number with an honor|pg||
pc|c2|nt|chorush: Meckstroth has to guess the heart queen to make this. Child's play for him and I'm betting a 9 imp pickup|pg||
nt|barnets: im with you Ira|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Fantoni asking about possible hands for a 1@D opening|pg||
nt|chorush: right with clubs breaking he could make it without guessing hearts|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: for NS lead purposes, the jack is the lowest card considered an honor|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|s3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s4|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg||
nt|chorush: well it will make it a 10 imps swing rather than 9|pg||
nt|barnets: maybe south should lead the @CJ pretending he is short in clubs|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c42|st||md|4SAJT8543H5D32CJ64,S7HAJ863DAKTC8532,SQ9HQ92DQJ854CA97,SK62HKT74D976CKQT|sv|b|nt|sybarra2: or just getting back to bd |pg||
nt|ritong: very|pg||
nt|ritong: extremely tough job|pg||
nt|daman: that helps the Nickell cause|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: score on 57 is missing|pg||
mb|3S|nt|chthonic: On last hand 1NT not forcing?  1S - 1N; 2D - 3D; 3N...??|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 3@C = both minors, less than invitational values|pg||
nt|sybarra2: well rehi all,  we will try it abain |pg||
nt|ritong: ho hum|pg||
nt|sybarra2: did we miss a pass? |pg||
nt|ady: 12 tricks here on heart finesse|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|chthonic: what was the problem?  I don't attribute to the 1S bid.|pg||
nt|daman: they play SEF    whcih is like sayc|pg||
pc|dA|nt|gambit: perhaps dble from N might help S do the right thing|pg||
nt|joest: I suspect Zia will bid 2@h.  It is worth it to bid out your pattern (even if you know partner doesn'ts have four hearts)|pg||
nt|joest: wonder which one he would have played had Zia returned a spade instead of a diamond :)|pg||
pc|d4|nt|joest: b/c you know the opps have at least nine spades|pg||
pc|d9|nt|casenjo:  yes, that was when system went down|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|gambit: he has a great hand...should be |pg||
pc|c8|nt|ritong: i suppose this is a shortened auction|pg||
nt|daman: right    good point|pg||
pc|c9|nt|chthonic: Then 1NT would have been better, it would appear|pg||
nt|psyck: surely non forcing for them, but passing E's hand over a non forcing bid is not for me, i would bid something|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|ady: north had shown up too much Jack   passed hand|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ritong: contract is right and declarer too|pg||
nt|joest: maybe some question about whether 3@c is forcing.  Reversing after a 1NT response not necessarily the same as after one of a suit|pg||
nt|daman: but it will be unsuccessful|pg||
pc|h5|nt|daman: they have 2 boards remaining in the Open Room|pg||
nt|chthonic: Agree, but that leaves bidding 2D on xxx - not appealing, either.|pg||
nt|joest: now a heart back and another club|pg||
pc|hA|nt|psyck: I play non forcing NT & bid with either shape or non minimum hands|pg||
nt|ady: not the best game|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|ritong: but duboin had no reason to bid 4@s here|pg||
nt|joest: 4@h would have been a great result|pg||
nt|daman: down 2 if E switches to a @D|pg||
nt|joest: making on a dummy reversal|pg||
nt|daman: yes|pg||
nt|joest: these guys are defending extremely well this set|pg||
pc|c2|nt|bigtrain: @CQ is rusinow|pg||
nt|gambit: hands fit well, and things on-side and best lead for the def, S will hook the spade successfully knowing the W hand|pg||
nt|gambit: needs the K@H onside or not play therefore W is 1-2-5-5- or the like|pg||
pc|cA|nt|joest: much easier to see looking at all four hands|pg||
nt|daman: has to play the K|pg||
nt|psyck: 2m rebid on 1N does not promise the earth even playing NF NT|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c6|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Kibbitzers have askedme about the 3@C bid, frequently used in Precision auctions|pg||
nt|roswolf: good to watch = we can all learn something|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|sA|nt|bigtrain: i bet he's regretting not doubling about now|pg||
nt|gambit: neat toy |pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|gambit: doubt tht|pg||
nt|gambit: why double whwn they will make it or even, 1 trick set? |pg||
nt|gambit: will be claiming shortly |pg||
nt|bigtrain: actually was referring to the 5@S bid|pg||
mc|7|nt|joest: I guess Zia thought that Helness would not pass an 11 count|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Zia said Helness opens all 11 counts, he can't have @SK|pg||
nt|joest: :)|pg||
pg||
qx|o43|st||md|1SATHQJ964DAT85C94,SQJ632H752DJ932CK,S8HAKT3DKQ7CQJT32,SK9754H8D64CA8765|sv|o|nt|barnets: the he could be 7-2-2-2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2009 CC for NS includes explanation of leads    http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/italy/fantoni-nunes.pdf|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|barnets: anyway we see how those little opening bids pick up some swings|pg||
nt|barnets: e/w were silent in the closed|pg||
mb|d|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|barnets: e/w have 4@S save|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: these two fine pairs will be teammates for the transnational teams in Veldhoven this Oct.|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: fantunes 1N always 12-14   may include shapes like  5422[not 54 majors], 6m332, 4441|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: so Barnet have you now joined the "we open balanced 11s" club-|pg||
nt|ahollan1: a)  6m322 [my typo]  b) 2@S  i wish i knew  assume a Relay    note 2@C is NOT pure stayman|pg||
mb|3C|an|min, not 4 spades|nt|barnets: depends|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: on whose vul |pg||
nt|barnets: what kind of 11 aces and kings|pg||
nt|barnets: that kind of stuff|pg||
nt|odysseus69: that last one was vul- it doesnt bother the members|pg||
mb|3D|nt|barnets: those are the premier mebers though|pg||
nt|odysseus69: last was pur with 2 10s - almost worth an upgrade to 15/17|pg||
nt|odysseus69: pure - kkkq|pg||
nt|barnets: I have seen east open with 12 a 14-16 Nt|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  Slawinsky leads: http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/ forster/bridge/development/slawinski/69.html|pg||
nt|barnets: e plays them up|pg||
nt|odysseus69: its called inflation |pg||
nt|ahollan1: for the point counter  Kaplan Rubens hand evaluator says South worth 12.45   http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi|pg||
nt|barnets: closed room are on last board|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2:  smaller url: http://goo.gl/zGqE5|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c43|st||md|1SATHQJ964DAT85C94,SQJ632H752DJ932CK,S8HAKT3DKQ7CQJT32,SK9754H8D64CA8765|sv|o|nt|casenjo:  And the players don't wait for the operator to catch up|pg||
nt|casenjo:  tough job|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Board 57 is scored now, but the Imps are not correct|pg||
nt|casenjo:  corrected now|pg||
nt|ritong: aren t they?|pg||
nt|ritong: good|pg||
nt|bigtrain: IMPs correct now...  |pg||
nt|bigtrain: do we know what the lead was here?|pg||
nt|ritong: if you feel a bit frustrated, just keep in mind that, without internet, you would just have the final result, even several days later|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i resume we in midplay somewhere|pg||
nt|casenjo:  No, but we need to give our poor vugraph operator a break here, he's crashed all night|pg||
nt|ritong: so, just put with " technical" problems with philosophy|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ady: seems diamond lead beats 4@H|pg||
mb|2D|nt|joest: perhaps 2NT for the two lower|pg||
nt|psyck: no only 3@d tricks|pg||
nt|joest: 2@d is an interesting start by Hamman|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2@C is natural and GF|pg||
nt|casenjo:  This is a Precision Club where 1@C = 16+ HCP|pg||
nt|gambit: some number of spades or some toy to support|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any|pg||
nt|ady: more likely Q@S|pg||
nt|psyck: @s goes on @c|pg||
nt|psyck: & @h's vreak well|pg||
mb|3D|nt|ritong: i m not saying he is a snail, he always take at least 30 seconds when dummy comes down|pg||
nt|joest: Zimmerman will just bid 3@h and hope to be out of the auction|pg||
nt|daman: 3@C by Zia might have been a better bid|pg||
nt|psyck: oh, 4th @d promo\tes|pg||
nt|chthonic: Can Nickel find the diamond bid to set up the defense?  --- No|pg||
nt|ady: 3 diamonds and then 4th  gives Katz K@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: XX = 8-10 balanced|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|joest: i doubt it is systemic but can't be sure :)|pg||
mb|4H|nt|daman: wow|pg||
nt|joest: Depending on what you are playing 3@c directly by Zia might have been 'invitational or better' in diamonds|pg||
nt|chthonic: As a very able kibitzer pointed out, it takes a diamond lead to beat 4H.  Well, how do you get a diamond lead?  By bidding diamonds....|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: i am not sure how to change the scores but will find out|pg||
nt|ritong: good|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: brd 57 went down one in 1NT|pg||
nt|ritong: what is the score, for info?|pg||
nt|ritong: ok ty|pg||
nt|bigtrain: the opening lead is everything here|pg||
nt|bigtrain: @S jack or 10 beats 3NT|pg||
nt|jchiu: may pop king on a low spade, as Lauria did (but Helness did not)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: anything else and the contract scores if declarer works out the @S position|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Zia led a spade in the other room|pg||
nt|bigtrain: since 57 went -1 the actual score is nickell 103 cayne 101|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, 140 is 4 imps|pg||
nt|ritong: 90+50 that is|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Good question: Kibbitzer wants to know what is difference between open and closed room when we can see either room|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|casenjo:  At the tournament site, open room has kibbitzers, closed room does not|pg||
nt|sybarra2: or at least that was the way it was in the old days|pg||
nt|ritong: what s going on, nikita?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: closed room allows kibs at the beginning but no one enters after the play begins|pg||
nt|joest: if you'd done that you could afford to just sell out to 3@h b/c partner did open 3rd seat|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: undo|pg||
nt|chthonic: sorry, two ll's in Nickell... typing ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: can yjey identify the clun hole for slam -for these guys of course|pg||
nt|roswolf: the club|pg||
nt|roswolf: they|pg||
pc|cK|nt|bigtrain: a slow 3NT here is more tenuious than a direct action|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@C shows 16+ hcp and any distributuion|pg||
pc|c2|nt|bigtrain: West's pass is forcing since E established a GF|pg||
pc|c8|nt|bigtrain: the X was just cards (nothing more to contribute)|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|joest: this is the second straight five of a minor that might have made ona very good day - but which won't|pg||
nt|ady: 4@S a decent save|pg||
mc|11|nt|gambit: will never make|pg||
nt|casenjo:  The 2@C bid is highlighted without explanation, but Bigtrain explained that it sets a Game Force|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 5+@C and GF values|pg||
nt|gambit: 8+ Forcing, all us former precision players know that |pg||
nt|gambit: need new glasses?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  East knows that partner has 16+ and therefore knows that they have enough HCP for game|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Zia said i open my 11 counts, not like helness|pg||
pg||
qx|o44|st||md|2SQT9HJ86DAT762C96,SJ542H73D943CKJ83,SAK87HT942DJCQ542,S63HAKQ5DKQ85CAT7|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|an|strong, art, 16+|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|an|0-7|nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 0-7 any|pg||
nt|barnets: Zia led the @S 10 v 2n good shot|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|odysseus69: looks like  1NT|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 17-18|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other table visible without login via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
pc|d2|nt|chorush: club system advantage here keeps them on the one level. 4 imps are available for making it|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: same leads here: low is odd   with honor or even   without honor|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|odysseus69: there are some old natural players who would pass 1 diamond|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: when Meck describes the lead correctly, Nunes say "next time we can play together"|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: a level higher than URL from Roland gives you access to the entire book that introduced Slawinski Leads  [NOT casual reading]|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c7|nt|ahollan1: http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/ forster/bridge/development/slawinski/|pg||
pc|d7|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|d4|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h5|pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c44|st||md|2SQT9HJ86DAT762C96,SJ542H73D943CKJ83,SAK87HT942DJCQ542,S63HAKQ5DKQ85CAT7|sv|n|nt|joest: although some of those meanings change when you are a passed hand|pg||
nt|daman: all members of the team are residents of Monaco now|pg||
nt|joest: of course his 11 count is way better than Helness' was :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|casenjo:  Honestly folks, I couldn't do her job. |pg||
nt|ady: no game for e/w  assuming spade lead v 3NT|pg||
mb|1D|nt|casenjo:  Please be kind|pg||
nt|joest: thanks for the onsite reporting though JOhn!|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|casenjo:  yes, Jeff and I are one of the few smoking dinosaurs left|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: interesting that there was no 'support double' by Zimmerman showing 3 hearts. They probably play it as something else|pg||
nt|joest: opposite a support double Multon would already have bid 4@h by now|pg||
mb|2N|nt|chthonic: ought to be a push -- down 2|pg||
nt|daman: yes|pg||
nt|ady: 5@C   1 down only|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  It's the WiFi at the Ryal York|pg||
nt|daman: they seldom play support doubles on the other side of the pond|pg||
nt|daman: Rusinow|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: Rusinov leads promis the immediate higher honor|pg||
nt|chthonic: best unblock now|pg||
pc|sT|nt|daman: then what is the Jack?|pg||
nt|chthonic: ten?|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ritong: ?|pg||
nt|ritong: confirmed?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yes confirmed|pg||
nt|ritong: ah|pg||
nt|daman: nor Frannery|pg||
pc|sK|nt|casenjo:  15-17 NT (took a view)|pg||
nt|ritong: wo-ow|pg||
nt|ady: can see 7 tricks|pg||
nt|joest: great opening lead even though Zia now apparently playing under an assumed name|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|h2|nt|joest: the short hearts are on play so the singleton club is not getting led|pg||
pc|hK|nt|bigtrain: 3NT -1 on 59|pg||
nt|sybarra2: did we get this one right?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Is this contract correct?|pg||
nt|ritong: nikita says so|pg||
nt|sybarra2: this is rare fumble by this pair|pg||
nt|casenjo:  alerted|pg||
nt|ritong: absolutely astonishing|pg||
nt|ritong: makes more sense|pg||
nt|casenjo:  ah, that makes sense|pg||
pc|h8|nt|casenjo:  This pair has over 200 pages of notes, when I asked Meckstroth if he knows it all, he said Eric does|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Jeff pled the 5th|pg||
nt|bigtrain: their SUMMARY is 200 pages|pg||
nt|casenjo:  That's why Isaid over 200!|pg||
nt|ritong: do they still have " MOST OF OUR BIDS ARE NATURAL" on the top of their CC, walter?|pg||
nt|joest: not that a club lead appeals that much with Jxxxof trumps anyway|pg||
nt|chthonic: no mishap|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|roswolf: w3ll he doent have to most days:)|pg||
nt|joest: by rising king Hamman has now unfortunately for him blocked the spade suit|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c3|nt|peachy: Looks like the view led to problems this time|pg||
nt|casenjo:  wow, I'm getting jammed with comments on the 1NT opener|pg||
nt|casenjo:  14 prime HCP and a 5 card suit and protecting his Kings, is very reasonable|pg||
nt|bigtrain: KNR values the hand at 14.50 so it's in the ballpark for an upgrade|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I would probably stretch this to a 1NT opener also|pg||
nt|sybarra: if you open a club what is your rebid? |pg||
pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h6|nt|sybarra: that is the problem |pg||
nt|bigtrain: how about 1NT :)|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Yes, I like 1NT in all seats with this hand|pg||
nt|peachy: http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi for those who want to have a look at the K&R hand evaluator|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I think it is a litte too good for the 1NT rebid, and agree with Shirley|pg||
nt|gambit: this has no play, wish him luck |pg||
nt|bigtrain: it's not imo...  if the J were in any other suit i'd agree though|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Meckstroth's double of 2@D also seduced North in believing his singleton was big, knowing partner doesn't have much in Diamonds|pg||
nt|gambit: note how Rodwell did not lead a diamond....what does that say?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  we do have a possible swing board coming up, so stay tuned|pg||
nt|gambit: I throw it out there, I don't know and he WAS RIGHT....so I guess he knows what he is doing, funny thing that for a world class player|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|joest: n-s bidding without a lot of high cards|pg||
nt|ady: can get a 2nd diamond trick  but may lose too many tricks|pg||
nt|joest: declarer just does not have quite enough tricks I don't think|pg||
pc|cA|nt|casenjo:  Meckwell have been playing together since 1978...without any break in partnership....they get to know a lot about style.....more than husband and wife ;)|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d2|nt|gambit: he made the best lead because he is a world class player, nothing more, nothing less, he is great|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|casenjo:  ok, I asked for this one, kibbitzers now asking if I played with 'Drewsky' Casen when we were married|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Not only did we play together, but it was ONLY time we NEVER fought|pg||
nt|gambit: neat play , though delaying the inevitable|pg||
nt|sybarra: I have operated for Meckwell agst various opps many times |pg||
nt|casenjo:  VERY TRUE!  If I played poorly, he only found kind things to say.  If I played well, he said nothing, which is often best.  When we finished very high in a Men's event (while married), I asked him, "Why are you such a wonderful partner and such |pg||
nt|sybarra: interesting dynamic,  calm, pleasant, intense, fun in many ways |pg||
nt|sybarra: difficult to describe|pg||
nt|casenjo:  a horrible partner?" His answer: "I'm a professional bridge player, not a professional husband"|pg||
nt|casenjo:  excuse me; it was horrible husband|pg||
nt|begse: 2 içeri belki 3|pg||
nt|begse: sry|pg||
nt|joest: Zia falsecarded at trick one but that would seem to make it more likely, rather than less likely, north has the club king|pg||
pc|cK|nt|famus: hi--correct|pg||
pc|c5|pc|d5|nt|casenjo:  Great bridge player, great dad,great teacher, great golfer, backgammn player and poker player....lousy husband|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|ady: Zia gets in with A@D   cash Q@S and play J@H nakes it clear|pg||
nt|ady: makes|pg||
pc|d3|nt|joest: so Zimmerman will give up an imp here but roll home|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|casenjo:  Can't be perfect :)|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|sJ|pc|h9|pg||
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qx|o45|st||md|3SQHKJ53DAQJ9863C7,SK853HAQ9874DTCT6,SAT762HTD2CKQJ832,SJ94H62DK754CA954|sv|b|nt|barnets: not a pretty fit n/s|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|barnets: north has 11 black cards and south anequal no of red cards|pg||
mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|kareno: North has what we call "La Cosa Nostra" ... The Black Hand!!|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|odysseus69: no brakes available in CR - can they stop here -i think so|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: risky on this table i would say|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 3NT coming|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h8|nt|odysseus69: cant play misfits in 3NT unless  they are strong misfits|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: scores for Open Swiss thru 6 rounds at  http://www.bridgewinners.com/|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dA|nt|barnets: hoping for 3-3 clubs|pg||
nt|barnets: hope and a prayer|pg||
nt|chorush: will throw a spade and hope for luck in clubs|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s2|nt|barnets: or 10 9 doubleton woud oblige|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|s6|pg||
pc|hA|pc|s7|pc|d7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cQ|nt|barnets: @SK ?|pg||
pc|c4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|nt|chorush: Rodwell want ertain he was 7-4|pg||
pc|d6|nt|chorush: wasn't|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|d8|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dK|nt|barnets: down just 1|pg||
mc|8|nt|barnets: 5 imps for Monaco|pg||
nt|odysseus69: defence was soft-happy for 1 down|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Rodwell:  "I could have done better"|pg||
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qx|c45|st||md|3SQHKJ53DAQJ9863C7,SK853HAQ9874DTCT6,SAT762HTD2CKQJ832,SJ94H62DK754CA954|sv|b|nt|gambit: here comes an interesting hand................Cayne by 31|pg||
nt|bigtrain: this should be interesting|pg||
nt|ritong: other room on board 64  we will have direct comparisons all along|pg||
nt|joest: they are on the final board in the open room|pg||
nt|daman: with AQJ10x    I would always lead the Q|pg||
mb|1C|nt|aitch99: it was quite conservative of Rodwell to pass the 1NT|pg||
nt|daman: Fantoni led the Q|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: might even be totally constructive|pg||
nt|ady: nice fir n/s|pg||
mb|1D|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any shape|pg||
nt|joest: not clear that the Nickell east-west pair collected enough against 1@h doubled|pg||
nt|joest: we will see|pg||
nt|daman: strange result here|pg||
nt|daman: i like 3 NT|pg||
nt|joest: at the other table Helgemo doubled 1@c which led to the contract of 1@h doubled|pg||
nt|ady: fit|pg||
mb|1H|nt|joest: not clear where north-south should wind up although if I had to guess, I'd say 3NT|pg||
mb|1S|nt|bigtrain: 1@S = 5+@H GF|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: in the other room Ralph Katz had to decide whether to sit 1@h doubled.|pg||
nt|ady: wonder if e/w may make a phantom|pg||
nt|psyck: not now|pg||
nt|chthonic: And now EW must show their defensive technique for a push.|pg||
nt|ady: top club lead   east can give suit preference|pg||
nt|joest: which is not such a hot spot either|pg||
nt|ady: where will this end?|pg||
nt|roswolf: looks possible|pg||
nt|joest: Zia may stall with 2@h|pg||
nt|roswolf: bidding to 3nt|pg||
nt|joest: he is too big for 3@d|pg||
mb|2H|nt|bigtrain: 1NT is control asking|pg||
nt|aitch99: whoops i think this is wrong|pg||
nt|psyck: a normal suit preferance on @c lead will make it easy|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: whack|pg||
nt|ady: did take the sacrifice|pg||
nt|chthonic: Get Lizzie Borden, quick|pg||
mb|2S|nt|casenjo:  Let's focus on this hand people|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 3 controls (A = 2 K = 1)|pg||
nt|ritong: heavy @d guess|pg||
nt|casenjo:  another partial battle|pg||
nt|joest: Having a double argues in favor of it.  Having an unmentioned KQ109xx suit argues against it|pg||
nt|joest: having a doubleton heart I mean|pg||
nt|chorush: Many pairs have the agreement that an immediate 4S by South shows the worst hand, which he certainly has, so we may be waiting while zimmerman decides about 5 clubs|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|gambit: ty big train for system notes, that really helps us all |pg||
nt|sybarra: Walter how does he show the club void?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  bigtrain will walk you through theauction|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Getting to 7 would be a swing for Nickells|pg||
nt|bigtrain: probably not until the keycard level|pg||
nt|gambit: will Versace venture in with 4@C?|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: here is the vugraph schedule for future session    please bookmark it    http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
nt|ady: great pickup for Nickell|pg||
nt|daman: this could tie the match|pg||
mb|3C|nt|bigtrain: if meck had a fit it would be shown as a part of a relay response|pg||
nt|ritong: bingo|pg||
nt|psyck: match will remain close at the end of 1st set, like it was at the end of 1st, not good for Nickell who prefer to trail at the half :)|pg||
nt|ady: all square now|pg||
nt|psyck: *2nd set|pg||
nt|chthonic: Yes, need to be behind 30 or more|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: XX is penalty|pg||
mb|3N|nt|bigtrain: hoping for a couple of clubs with partner :)|pg||
nt|joest: my personal take is that Ralph took a pretty deep position|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Seems certain to. 9 tricks for EW seems predestined|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: bet that is a splinter|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 5@C is exclusion RKC|pg||
nt|joest: now this is Zia backing his judgment about a hopeless misfit|pg||
nt|joest: right down to bidding 2NT to give his partner more room to bid out his shape|pg||
pc|h9|nt|gambit: look at Rodwell's hand, and his partner has opened a forcing club, and shown a balnced NT, he is salivating|pg||
nt|sybarra: ok exc |pg||
nt|sybarra: sorry |pg||
nt|bigtrain: 5@D = 3|pg||
nt|sybarra: exc or voidwood |pg||
pc|hT|nt|psyck: yes, they need that for inspired finish|pg||
nt|joest: oh sorry.  I thought he passed! :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: zia trying to bash the heads of the norsemen with their own tactics|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ady: can set up the diamonds   but cant reach them|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 5@H = queen ask|pg||
pc|d2|nt|bigtrain: 5N Q with no kings|pg||
nt|gambit: behind in the match....the grand has to be on the table|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I would think Rodwell will bid this one........but what do I know?|pg||
nt|joest: anyway Zimmerman looks like they will pick up about 10 imps or so|pg||
pc|d7|nt|daman: yes and yes|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: time clock has withered away with break and recent very slow play|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg||
nt|joest: is today the day I find Kx onside? :)|pg||
nt|ady: will try clubs|pg||
pc|dA|nt|sybarra: taaaaaaaaadaaaaaa |pg||
nt|bigtrain: he knows 14 of the points...  and is unsure how many are in clubs|pg||
nt|joest: if he does then remember to play the 10 from 10xx next time as West :)|pg||
pc|h4|nt|gambit: as predicted, wd Eric|pg||
nt|casenjo:  For those of you who told me the fatlady was singing, It ain't over til it's over ;)|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ady: now try for clubs|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cT|nt|ritong: uh oh...|pg||
nt|sybarra2: are we crashing again?|pg||
nt|ritong: omijnous "break in tempo"...|pg||
nt|daman: here is the vugraph schedule so you can plan for the next 2 sessions    please book mark it   http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
nt|psyck: tell them the desert is getting eaten up|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|psyck: *dessert even|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|d3|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|joest: time to guess the heat|pg||
nt|joest: heart|pg||
nt|ady: now defence is in charge   cash K@D    and heart   cash out hearts and K@S best|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ady: long haul for the same 500|pg||
nt|daman: hoping for a huge error|pg||
nt|chorush: Maybe he is trying to put NS to sleep|pg||
nt|daman: Sominex Coup|pg||
nt|pfbr: hehehe :)|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s3|pg||
nt|daman: we have 5000 kibitzers     putting them to sleep as well|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ady: dont mind the 7 rounds of clubs   but a little quicker|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d8|nt|joest: they beat 1NT at the other table on board 41.  after cashing akq of hearts they switched to spades not diamonds|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
mc|6|nt|ady: the only good thing f is undoub;ed|pg||
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qx|o46|st||md|4SQJHQ9874DJT84CAQ,S873HAKT6DA6CKT76,SAT9HJDQ7532C8432,SK6542H532DK9CJ95|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|d|mb|2C|an|5+ diamonds|nt|chorush: this hand has to be headed for 11 on the KR evaluator|pg||
nt|bigtrain: X = cards  14+|pg||
mb|2S|mb|3D|nt|odysseus69: v ery friendly for E-W here|pg||
mb|3S|nt|chorush: I am being informed that it is actually 9.6|pg||
nt|barnets: South can get a ruff to hold spades to 9 tricks|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
nt|barnets: teh cub loser goes on a spade here|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sK|nt|barnets: so that is just down 1|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|cQ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|d4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|nt|barnets: 2 imps for Monaco|pg||
pc|d2|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|d8|pc|cT|pg||
pc|h9|nt|barnets: up by 17|pg||
pc|hT|pc|d3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s4|pc|dT|pc|cK|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|barnets: just 2 def tricks here|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c46|st||md|4SQJHQ9874DJT84CAQ,S873HAKT6DA6CKT76,SAT9HJDQ7532C8432,SK6542H532DK9CJ95|sv|o|nt|joest: so what would you do as dealer George|pg||
nt|chorush: This board looks very flat|pg||
nt|psyck: kibz can sleep through this one as ewell|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: bid some @Ds'|pg||
mb|1H|nt|casenjo:  down to an 18 imp difference in 2 boards! 19 to go|pg||
nt|daman: you?|pg||
mb|1N|nt|joest: well I guess how many was the question :)|pg||
nt|joest: 1@d most days|pg||
nt|ady: this should be flat   and hopefully quicker|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: 1@D seems right|pg||
nt|joest: it certainly seems normal, which has a lot going for it!|pg||
nt|daman: now we''l see what happens|pg||
nt|joest: I doubt Mr. Hamman expects a lot of cooperation from Zia|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: neg...|pg||
nt|joest: I could see him driving this to slam by himself frankly|pg||
nt|joest: a trifle light, particularly opposite apassed hand that purportedly opens 'all elevens' :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: yes...  a best he could do negative X :)|pg||
nt|joest: it's a big bid but not out of the realm|pg||
nt|daman: 6 is down on @D and another @D    yes?|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ady: agressive 1NT  opposite passed partner who normally opens with 11|pg||
pc|dK|nt|daman: 6@H looks to be gin|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|casenjo:  2@H = 5+ hearts and 4+ minor|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|gambit: pity the penalty double has been lost here, see last night Zia's last board if you don't believe me|pg||
nt|daman: in 6@H    low @D to King and a @S ruff|pg||
nt|chthonic: Yes, should be uneventful push board 420|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|daman: let's see if they even get there|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|nt|ady: sorry Jack  my typing slower|pg||
pc|d2|nt|daman: just a lazy Sunday afternoon     4400 kibitzers     |pg||
nt|daman: and they all have an opinion|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|bigtrain: looks like scrambling 8 tricks here|pg||
nt|joest: i think it's cold George as long as he takes a first round spade hook|pg||
pc|cK|nt|daman: he was always finessing the @S|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|nt|joest: takes the tap crosses to the heart queen picks up the trumps returns to his hand with a heart ruff, etc.|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c7|nt|joest: on the hand where Zia down in 3@s Meckwell landed in 4@h and are on the way to make it for a swing|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|cT|nt|daman: nice|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s2|pc|d8|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Dave Dressman correctly pointed out that Rodwell knowsSOuth is marked with length in spades on the auction|pg||
pc|hA|mc|8|pg||
qx|o47|st||md|1SQT8HJT32DJT853CK,S95H7654DKQ7CJ865,SAJ642HA9D2CAQT32,SK73HKQ8DA964C974|sv|n|nt|barnets: N/S bid and made their game here|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: simply|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: in 3 bids|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|an|2-6/7 and 3 spades or 2-5 & 4|nt|barnets: how many bids here |pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S forcing, Nunes downgraded his hand   had available 2N=5+ HCP, 3+@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@S needs better hand?  @CK dubious value|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|mb|r|nt|odysseus69: 1 more board then a break - schedule for final session - tell please|pg||
nt|barnets: in to choppy seas now|pg||
nt|odysseus69: surprising pass ober 2S|pg||
mb|p|an|waiting; not to play|nt|odysseus69: 20 minutes from now|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Nunes picks up the Daily Bulletin to read|pg||
mb|3C|nt|barnets: 3 level looks like a number or N/s will bid their game|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: norths bid is not my choice|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: but they got to game|pg||
nt|barnets: which will annoy e/w |pg||
pc|hQ|nt|barnets: defending the 3 level more exciting for the specs|pg||
nt|odysseus69: I love it when opponents balance then on second thoughts bid game|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg||
nt|barnets: many specs are asking about balancing with this hand|pg||
nt|chorush:  I can't blame Meckstroth for trying to push them higher. I think Fantoni drew him in by not making a game try on a hand that was worth one.|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg||
nt|barnets: ask larry cohen if he doesnt balance it cant be right to|pg||
nt|kareno: Partner is known short in spades and did not take any action.|pg||
nt|bigtrain: it a live auction karen...  remember opener is unlimited|pg||
nt|bigtrain: to not balance would be classified as strange|pg||
nt|kareno: I know it is live but partner can prebalance with short spades and values.  Especially at favorable.|pg||
nt|kareno: Balancing live.|pg||
nt|barnets: looks to me as if he should be ruffing a club in dummy|pg||
nt|chorush: It was not a live auction. Fantunes had announced they were willing to play 2 spades, on a hand that Hamman had jumped to 4 spades without even making a try. Meckstroth should have ...|pg||
nt|chorush: every expectation that his side had a playable fit and that he had a chance ro beat 3 spades, which is what the game is all about|pg||
nt|barnets: and loses one trump one diamond and 1 spade|pg||
nt|barnets: not sure why that @CK is still there|pg||
nt|bigtrain: lots of interesting comments...  but people i greatly respect agree the balance is automatic|pg||
nt|kareno: Thanks, specs.  Too many of you to respond individually|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: I'd give Meck's opinion strong weight, and we know what he thinks|pg||
nt|chorush: I have been reminded of an important consideration which is that Fantonis 1 spade was forcing, so Nunes might have a considerably lesser hand|pg||
nt|barnets: it is easy to criticise a bid when we see it is not the winner|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Fantoni: "sorry"|pg||
nt|barnets: and a play|pg||
nt|barnets: the fact it is a loser does not necessarily make it wrong|pg||
nt|barnets: the question is here is there a losing play he can make ?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: I'd love to have a transcript of what he is thinking in this very long pause|pg||
nt|kareno: At least you can be the 'fly on the wall'  :)|pg||
nt|barnets: I dont see one|pg||
nt|barnets: the specs say call the clock as in a poker hand|pg||
nt|barnets: when an official counts a minute|pg||
nt|barnets: and you are done|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg||
nt|barnets: 19 italians just told me he can think as long as he likes|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg||
nt|barnets: not that I ever took a long time|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
nt|barnets: I think i will publish a transcript of all the comments i got|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|c3|pc|h8|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|s6|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|d8|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|s8|pc|c8|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s5|nt|barnets: ok almost there|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d9|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|sK|nt|barnets: I sympathise with e/w on this board|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c47|st||md|1SQT8HJT32DJT853CK,S95H7654DKQ7CJ865,SAJ642HA9D2CAQT32,SK73HKQ8DA964C974|sv|n|nt|psyck: time to wake up, this could well be a swing|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: thin 3NT  OR|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|daman: vugraph schedule    http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: please check the board number|pg||
nt|joest: George or John do you know when the second set begins?|pg||
mb|2S|nt|gambit: as one commentator said, when we all thought he was going for his life - live by the sword, die by the sword|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 5+@D GF|pg||
nt|casenjo:  another big club auction|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT is waiting|pg||
nt|ritong: looks ok|pg||
nt|ritong: they apparently skipped the 62|pg||
nt|ritong: momentarily|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 3@H is both minors|pg||
nt|daman: this is now the penultimate hand of this session|pg||
nt|joest: Zia does not belong to the school where you respond on anything.  Good thing too|pg||
nt|daman: begins in 17 minutes   lol|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 62 a push looks like|pg||
nt|ritong: maybe they took 63 before 62|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: no one skipped anything the bbo server continues to freeze and forces me to restart everything|pg||
nt|joest: I just have to say that imho Zia was brilliant on that last hand|pg||
nt|joest: he catered to the layout that existed and it paid off|pg||
nt|daman: the next session is supposed to begin in 16 minutes|pg||
nt|psyck: a bigger swing if it makes|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|ritong: it s ok  relax nikita|pg||
nt|chthonic: I don't get dealt AK and not lead that suit.|pg||
nt|chorush: with that lead it may wellmake|pg||
nt|psyck: well, it it does, he can be happy the lead only cost 3 imps|pg||
nt|ady: this hand going to be bad for Nickell and may get worse|pg||
nt|ady: where Zia went down in 3@S  Meck opened the 11 that Helness passed|pg||
pc|h2|nt|casenjo:  now Meckstroth has found the club fit!|pg||
nt|casenjo:  pretty auction|pg||
nt|gambit: low spade lead from S will scuttle any slam......|pg||
nt|casenjo:  south isn't on lead|pg||
nt|gambit: sad but rrue|pg||
pc|h7|nt|gambit: SAD BUT TRUE|pg||
nt|gambit: nice to see V have the chance for glory |pg||
nt|chthonic: I can protect against their setting up hearts with my length. |pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|c2|nt|bigtrain: making 140 on this one is huge|pg||
nt|bigtrain: doesn't look like it can be made|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg||
nt|daman: we have been told the next session will start 20 minutes after this table has finished|pg||
nt|joest: another pick up for Nickell provided Hamman can go plus |pg||
pc|sQ|nt|chthonic: Regardless, 3NT making NS inthe other room will lead to a significant gain for Monaco|pg||
nt|ady: down 1 in spite of the lead|pg||
nt|chthonic: Nunes opened the south hand with 2H|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg||
nt|joest: if Helness duckes there and Hamman hooks again...|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|casenjo:  no spade guess here|pg||
nt|casenjo:  diamonds split 4-3 and a ruff in dummy for 12|pg||
pc|h3|nt|psyck: 10-13 5 card @h for Nunes maybe|pg||
nt|joest: but I don't think Hamman would hook again|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pg||
nt|joest: defenders got their tap suit going in time|pg||
nt|psyck: with adjustments for shape|pg||
pc|dA|nt|aitch99: in danger of going off|pg||
nt|chthonic: 11 IMPs |pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg||
nt|joest: Hamman now developshis @d trick|pg||
pc|d4|nt|casenjo:  if they pick up 22 next quarter............|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|casenjo:  Nickell has picked up 22 this quarter|pg||
pc|dK|nt|bigtrain: did that really happen?|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|joest: this table is a full four boards ahead of their counterparts|pg||
nt|ady: they have played quickly|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes very commendable|pg||
nt|joest: so if spdes 3-2 and club jack doesn't drop Hamman needs toruff a club now|pg||
nt|joest: if spades 4-1 and club jack does drop he needs to pull trumps now|pg||
nt|ady: would be against the odds|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|nt|daman: doesn't look good|pg||
nt|joest: so now Hamman will be tapped out while East has an entry|pg||
pc|d5|nt|daman: wow|pg||
nt|joest: so here comes the last hand of the set|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|joest: yes if spades 3-2 he can draw trumps ending in dummy and get clubs away on the hearts|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|s8|pc|c6|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|mc|10|pg||
qx|o48|st||md|2ST654HT97DQ753CJ9,SAQ87HAKJ8D9CQT65,SKJ9HQ6542DT8CK43,S32H3DAKJ642CA872|sv|e|nt|barnets: not only the game but having to wit such a long time|pg||
mb|1C|an|strong 16+ artificial|nt|barnets: before it was made|pg||
nt|odysseus69: thx all-enjoy the last sgment |pg||
nt|barnets: ok chance for Nickell here|pg||
mb|1H|mb|2D|nt|barnets: e/w pushed themselves to 4N|pg||
nt|chorush: this must be an opening for Nickell. 4NT-1 is not often a good score|pg||
mb|2H|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any|pg||
nt|barnets: and N/s defended well to beat it|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@D = nat GF|pg||
nt|barnets: Hamman led the @SK and in the end game unblocked his @SJ|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2NT is natural/waiting|pg||
nt|barnets: how will the ng go walter ?|pg||
nt|barnets: bidding|pg||
nt|bigtrain: X by west would have been penalty...  but wrong color for a 2-level double|pg||
mb|3H|an|meant as showing 4 clubs|nt|chorush: the club layout is friendly enough so that 6 clubs could be made; not that it is a very good contract|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|barnets: if 6@C is bid the play very reasonably will not be swift|pg||
mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chorush: well, we will find out if this can make soon enough|pg||
nt|barnets: north has no attractive lead may lead a trump|pg||
nt|barnets: that would not work well|pg||
nt|barnets: cant lead a major|pg||
nt|chorush: the general plan for the play is likely to establish diamonds|pg||
nt|barnets: maybe a diamond dummys suit|pg||
nt|barnets: here north has a severe problem|pg||
nt|barnets: with his lead|pg||
nt|chorush: the club spots are friendly but the diamonds not so much. Opening lead will be critical|pg||
nt|barnets: who would have thought a club lead would be disastrous|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|barnets: this is a tough hand to play |pg||
nt|chorush: tough is an understatement|pg||
nt|chorush: when I said earlier that I thought it was makeable, I wasn't cnsidering playing it:)|pg||
nt|barnets: it is normal to try and set up diamonds|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
nt|barnets: trump back|pg||
nt|chorush: I dont see how it could make now with a trump|pg||
nt|barnets: I dont think he can make it now|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|h7|nt|barnets: back in about 15-20 mins is that correct ?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: back as soon as possible - already late of coures|pg||
nt|barnets: looks down 2 to me|pg||
nt|barnets: might enplay north for down 1|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|s2|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|d2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|h8|pc|d8|pg||
nt|warrens:  South has shown up with 3 @H's and 2 @C's and had to pitch a @S.  if so, he's been squeezed|pg||
nt|warrens:  if he had the Kxxx|pg||
nt|barnets: he cant|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|nt|barnets: answer to spec|pg||
mc|10|nt|barnets: yes thats right warren|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: back as soon as possible|pg||
nt|warrens:  different "spec"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: see you again soon -- thanks commentators|pg||
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qx|c48|st||md|2ST654HT97DQ753CJ9,SAQ87HAKJ8D9CQT65,SKJ9HQ6542DT8CK43,S32H3DAKJ642CA872|sv|e|nt|ritong: take it easy, operator just claim 920|pg||
nt|casenjo:  they will once again be the 'come from behind guys'|pg||
nt|ritong: ok|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Jack of @D lead, followed by a spade shift|pg||
nt|joest: my suspicion is that we will see 4@s here as well|pg||
nt|daman: can they stay out of game?|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|bigtrain: 2+@D 10-15|pg||
mb|2D|nt|joest: At the other table 1@c was the chosen opening bid which may have helped influenced south to just bid a gamewhen he got raised|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: tough call for Helgemo.  3NT might sound like 18|pg||
mb|3N|nt|bigtrain: X can be 5@H with GF values|pg||
nt|chorush: Multon passed where Meckstroth doubld|pg||
nt|ady: some would open west hand   maybe cant  in their system|pg||
nt|joest: 2@s is a compromise that sounds maybe like a fifth club but not so clear in this auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: likely to end in 3NT|pg||
nt|roswolf: i expected that|pg||
nt|joest: Helness has a pretty good hand|pg||
mb|4C|nt|joest: interesting  he suppresses his spades to play for penalties (I presume)|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  last board of a truly excitging match|pg||
nt|roswolf: and iws bidding it|pg||
nt|joest: the fourth and final NT! :)|pg||
nt|ady: even white against red  not wild about heart overcall|pg||
mb|4N|nt|bigtrain: but here it's "normal"|pg||
nt|daman: would you have bid 1@S Joe?|pg||
nt|joest: Yes I would.  I admit it|pg||
nt|daman: Jack   sorry|pg||
nt|joest: but pass is certainly more exciting|pg||
nt|psyck: Last deal, thanks all, next set in a couple of hours.|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: this is the second time this set that the Nickell team has 'taken a view' by defending 1@h doubled|pg||
nt|roswolf: firm;y does it|pg||
nt|joest: but actually the heart overcall helped create some of this ambiguity|pg||
nt|roswolf: f[rmly|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: something happened to board 61 result...  thats why score changed|pg||
nt|pfbr: ty commentators :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: start 6 eastern|pg||
nt|pfbr: and ty operator :) |pg||
nt|ady: this not exactly a favourate to make|pg||
mb|p|pc|sK|nt|joest: it didnt work last time|pg||
nt|ady: thx all |pg||
nt|joest: Hamman knew not to lead a heart|pg||
nt|ady: own suit so bad    tried something a bit desparate|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes|pg||
nt|joest: in fairness he has a very difficult lead problem|pg||
nt|ady: yes   agree|pg||
nt|joest: if each of you tell me you would unerringly lead the @d 10 i believe you|pg||
nt|roswolf: geir has a very difficult declarer problem|pg||
pc|s2|nt|casenjo:  more or less the same auction at the other table|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Please return for an exciting 4th quarter!!!|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Wow, slow down guys, too many questions!|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Board 61 is now correct as Henri says|pg||
nt|bigtrain: it looks like things are a bit messed up so we'll have to wait for comparasions to see who wins|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: will not take long|pg||
nt|casenjo:  And yes Meckstroth made 2@H, shortens his trump length to the same as North and throws him in to pick up the trump suit|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|pg||
pc|d9|nt|casenjo:  Thanks to Cam, Walter and all my co-commentators|pg||
nt|kareno: Don't give up your seats, specs!!  |pg||
pc|dT|nt|chorush: Nickell has to make this to obtain a push|pg||
nt|ady: good start|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|chthonic: Interesting play -- worked well.|pg||
nt|chthonic: True.... |pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
nt|ady: spade best|pg||
nt|ady: while he has diamonds held|pg||
pc|hT|nt|bigtrain: i think this score is correct...  but once again unofficial|pg||
nt|daman: whew|pg||
nt|Walddk4: We will continue with voice commentary from the open room in the second segment. Larry Cohen and I will be back for that. Remember to use the web version if you want voice ...|pg||
nt|Walddk4: commentary|pg||
nt|Walddk4: www.bridgebase.com  Play Bridge Now   log in and click on Vugraph, open room|pg||
nt|joest: while we have a sec, thanks to our operator John|pg||
nt|joest: good job|pg||
nt|daman: they shd get 7 tricks on D    no?|pg||
nt|joest: Multon may be off a card playing Hamman for 4=1=4=4 or 4=0=4=5|pg||
nt|joest: it looks to me like Zia's shot will pay off here|pg||
pc|hA|nt|casenjo:  breakk should be about 15-20 minutes|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c6|nt|pfbr: i so hope so :)|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
nt|ady: nasty hand to play|pg||
pc|dA|nt|casenjo:  Thanks alot to the one with the toughest job...our vugraph operator|pg||
nt|gambit: thy to our VuG operator Dan, and the specs....see you for the final segment?|pg||
pc|d3|nt|casenjo:  For those that have been asking for Vugraph room to be kept open: we do not control that|pg||
nt|bigtrain: ;http://www.bridgewinners.com/  for final results|pg||
nt|ritong: but nikita does|pg||
nt|casenjo:  But you can look at BBO's vugraph history tomorrow and see it all|pg||
nt|bigtrain: http://www.bridgewinners.com/ |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: thanks everyone for your patience!|pg||
nt|daman: this is not good|pg||
nt|joest: even though Zia must put declarer in dummy, the two pitches do not help him|pg||
nt|joest: he may just take the ruff in hishand to be honest|pg||
pc|s7|pc|d8|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I could NEVER do vugraph operator job, tough one|pg||
nt|peachy: Thanks all :)|pg||
nt|ritong: no problem at all|pg||
nt|ady: no quick entry for diamonds|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|nt|ritong: technical issues are frequent|pg||
nt|casenjo:  go to Vugraph Archive and look at Spingold Semi FInal Cayne/Nickell 4th quarter|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Nikita, you were awesome|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h6|pg||
nt|ady: seems 7 tricks|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|nt|joest: now Zia just takes a minor suit ruff and waits for his 2 naturals|pg||
nt|joest: it may be incumbent upon Hamman soon to unblock the spade jack|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|casenjo:  It is so tough to lose connections and get back online, especially since the players do not wait for you! @H|pg||
nt|chorush: can make on endplay|pg||
pc|c3|nt|casenjo:  Thanks again to Henri and Walter for great commentary|pg||
nt|ritong: so please let us know as soon as possible|pg||
nt|fifee: quite a match|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|bigtrain: this could go late into the night as there may be an appeal for 4 IMPs|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: have a good night from Toronto thanks all for tuning in !!|pg||
nt|ritong: ow|pg||
nt|casenjo:  If you want to see previous quarters, they will be on Vugraph Archive also|pg||
nt|joest: 6 to Nickell who will trail by 4 at the quartr|pg||
nt|joest: quarter|pg||
nt|roswolf: like now|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s4|nt|chorush: diamond ace and club to 9|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|c2|nt|joest: thanks George|pg||
pc|h7|nt|joest: and thanks toall the kibitzers!  |pg||
nt|daman: see you next session|pg||
nt|daman: thanks Jack|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: back in 15 minutes or so|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s3|nt|ady: can make    will he?|pg||
nt|ady: no|pg||
nt|joest: here we go|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|s8|nt|chorush: well could've made|pg||
pc|s9|nt|psyck: @cK was known to be wrong on bidding|pg||
nt|roswolf: alert as ever|pg||
pc|d2|pc|sT|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d6|pc|d7|nt|chthonic: whole difference on last two boards.|pg||
nt|chthonic: Thanks, all, enjoyed.|pg||
nt|ady: should have played west for 6 diamonds   so even if club king was with west   9 would work|pg||
nt|ady: thx all|pg||
nt|ady: bye|pg||
nt|chorush: resume in 1hr:40 minutes|pg||
nt|chorush: Thx all specs and commentators and our great operator|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|joest: srong result to end with|pg||
nt|joest: thanks John, our operator|pg||
nt|roswolf: ok bye for now|pg||
nt|joest: thanks Geoffrey and Bruce|pg||
nt|roswolf: a pleasure|pg||
nt|joest: i think the play will resume maybe about 20 minutes after the other room gets done|pg||
nt|ady: thx all|pg||
nt|ady: thx Jack|pg||
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