vg|2011 Spingold Final,Segment 4 of 4,I,49,64,Monaco,101,Nickell,81|
rs|4SE-1,4SW=,3NW+1,3NE+1,3NN-1,3NS-2,4SE=,4SW=,3HN=,3HN=,6NE=,6NW=,4HEx-2,3NS=,4SW-1,4SW-1,4SN+1,4NN+1,3CN=,3NN-1,3DS-2,3DS-2,4HEx-4,3DN-1,7CE=,7CE=,2SE=,3DS-1,2SE+1,2SE+1,6SW=,6HE=|
pn|Helgemo,Zia,Helness,Hamman,Meckstroth,Nunes,Rodwell,Fantoni|pg||
qx|o49|st||md|3ST2HT762DK95CJ965,SAQ973HAQDAJ74CKQ,SK8HK83D32CAT8743,SJ654HJ954DQT86C2|sv|o|nt|barnets: for this exciting finish to a great match|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|r|an|3 hearts|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|nt|barnets: in closed started 2@C p 2N X   3@C pp X P 3@H P|pg||
nt|henryb:  declarer has to decide whether to ruff the second club so he can take all finesses|pg||
nt|henryb:  that looks right: he has no useful pitch|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|d6|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|henryb:  well, ruff this, spade to Q, win the spadereturn and lead a high @d from |pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d3|nt|barnets: now he will take both red finesses|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
nt|henryb:  this would have been quite silly if South's K were the @sK|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d7|nt|henryb:  He managed to go down|pg||
pc|h3|pc|dT|nt|barnets: what would yu do henry ruff club and ?|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
mc|9|nt|henryb:  ruff club and @s to Q|pg||
pg||
qx|c49|st||md|3ST2HT762DK95CJ965,SAQ973HAQDAJ74CKQ,SK8HK83D32CAT8743,SJ654HJ954DQT86C2|sv|o|nt|casenjo:  Well, rehi to all, please be patient with the WIFI disconnects ;)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: there is an issue with the hands because it is not the right hands give me a moment to resolve please|pg||
nt|gambit: 38 imp difference, 32 boards left,,expect some fireworks |pg||
nt|casenjo:  Meckwell has lots of experience grinding out come from behind victories|pg||
nt|gambit: indeed|pg||
nt|peachy: Hi everybody|pg||
nt|jpes: its lauria and versace|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: hi all the match has begun but there is an issue with the hands so please stop asking me to change the names of the players i will do it thank you|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Operator, the spelling of the N-S names are not accurate|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Lauria|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Versace|pg||
nt|gambit: not exactly the meek vs. the meek, more like battle of the titans|pg||
nt|psyck: Hello everyone|pg||
nt|daman: here we go|pg||
nt|daman: Hi Krishna|pg||
nt|ady: if Katz has a natural 2@D opening South might try 3NT|pg||
nt|joest: Welcome to the 3rd quarter of the Spingold final|pg||
nt|joest: from Toronto|pg||
nt|joest: welcome back all|pg||
mb|2C!|nt|daman: fantunes are at the other table    they are slow players|pg||
nt|joest: hello everybody and welcome to the final 16 boards of the 2011 Spingold in Toronto|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  No problem with the names, just pretend the 'n's are 'r's|pg||
nt|daman: and we're off and pacing|pg||
nt|chthonic: NS might get overboard.|pg||
nt|ady: will fail |pg||
nt|kareno: Specs, for this fourth quarter of the 2011 Spingold, we are privileged to watch two of the premier pairs of the world of bridge.|pg||
nt|joest: 2@c = Precision 11-15 6+clubs|pg||
mb|2N!|nt|casenjo:  Welcome to 3rd quarter of Spingold Semi-Finals|pg||
nt|joest: Zia proving that 3rd seat nonvulnerable is not 100% forcing: even on him|pg||
nt|joest: with 11 highs and only a spade stiff, Zimmerman will toss this back in|pg||
nt|daman: I think that the next cycle begins with the 2012 Spingold Jack|pg||
nt|daman: http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/component/content/article/2-latest-news/988-hamman-joins-new-team-for-next-cycle|pg||
nt|joest: One common rule of thumb in fourth seat: add your HCP + your   of spades.  If 15 or more, open.  If not, pass|pg||
nt|daman: not enough pearson points to open|pg||
nt|joest: Nickell starts down 15 but they have come from behind to win the fourth quarter of both their last two matches|pg||
nt|kareno: Jack :)|pg||
nt|joest: hey karen|pg||
nt|joest: 2NT asks but is intended here as obfuscation|pg||
nt|joest: as West well knows|pg||
mb|d|nt|joest: ok, color me surprised :)|pg||
mb|3C|nt|daman: that is quite a view     to pass 2@D|pg||
nt|chthonic: But not -- south did not overreact to his "points"|pg||
nt|psyck: Not the suit I'd like for a 1st seat weak 2, buf normal 2@d NV i guess|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: :)|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Hi again to Cam and Walter|pg||
nt|peachy: Hi Terry, Walter and Cam|pg||
nt|gambit: hi Jo....|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C shows 8+ minors over 1@S|pg||
nt|bigtrain: they can be 53 either way even|pg||
nt|chthonic: worked.  Was not making 3N|pg||
nt|ady: Nickell decided not enough ace  even if diamonds run  especially on a heart lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: 4@S from Eric, what else|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|gambit: look at Meck's raise!|pg||
nt|gambit: indeed|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Rodwell just might eek out 8 tricks........|pg||
nt|gambit: Zia might not make 5@D* off three toppers|pg||
nt|bigtrain: maybe even 9|pg||
nt|peachy: Hello again|pg||
nt|joest: then correct 3@hto 3@s (possibly) or raise 3@s to 4|pg||
mb|3H|nt|gambit: :)|pg||
nt|gambit: ok now|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@H is art GF|pg||
nt|joest: the theory is: either you partner has spades (which will force you to rebid which is bad) or the opponents have spades and can outbid you so your cheapest exit is passing right now|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: Hi Jo Anne|pg||
nt|gambit: delaying the inevitable|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT shows 9 minors with a singleton spade|pg||
mb|3S|nt|joest: 4@c a spade raise with shortness which will prompt a fast signoff|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: Meckwell play a hyperactive style and create huge problems like this for their opponents|pg||
nt|joest: now Fantoni definitly enough to kick it in|pg||
mb|4S|nt|ady: well bid hand    this should make on the nose|pg||
nt|psyck: with @c33, only 1 loser in each suit|pg||
nt|chthonic: Would seem to be  making, yes|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: George points out that the change will not take place until next year's spingold so Zia-Hamman will still play the REisinger and Vanderbilt this year|pg||
nt|daman: they need to get a @D trick before the @Cs are set up to beat|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  this will only make on a non-@H lead|pg||
nt|gambit: Can N lead a heart? |pg||
nt|gambit: no....|pg||
nt|joest: his partner was too good to just reopen with 2@s after double so Fantoni has a clear raise|pg||
mb|p|nt|psyck: even overtrick if @s trick dissappears|pg||
nt|daman: 3NT -2 is better than -140|pg||
pc|d3|nt|gambit: will make it now|pg||
pc|d6|nt|casenjo:  Hamman would have overcalled 1@H, he loves those good 4 card suits,, but unfortunately, he is sitting North|pg||
pc|d5|nt|roswolf: hiall|pg||
nt|joest: hi geoffrey|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|kareno: Nothing much to the play.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other room is visible without login via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|joest: hi al|pg||
nt|joest: Nunes suspects that Meck has 'a king' but which king?|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|nt|peachy: Nickell luck is on|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|daman: great shift|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|joest: not that king|pg||
nt|granguru:  hi|pg||
nt|kareno: John :)|pg||
nt|joest: hi John|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d9|nt|peachy: their trademark, come back at the last minute|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|joest: well this hand will not disprove the Pearson Points theory|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg||
nt|peachy: Heart lead just does not seem right, quite normal not to|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|joest: so Nunes is home free now|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|chthonic: whatever the details, it won't be much of a swing -- small score to EW in both rooms likely.|pg||
pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|dQ|nt|ady: should be able to place K@H with North|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|ady: south has shown up with a lot already|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cK|nt|ady: can make an overtrick by finessing hearts and playing 3rd heart|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|daman: he is teasing us by not cashing the @D King|pg||
nt|granguru:  2@C is 11-15 so N sould have had KKK@CA|pg||
nt|granguru:  could*|pg||
pc|c7|nt|daman: wow|pg||
nt|chthonic: That was a surprise.|pg||
pc|s5|nt|ady: now can go down|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|h4|nt|daman: uppercut coming|pg||
pc|h2|nt|daman: amazing|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|joest: that is why!|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|joest: nice d by Zia|pg||
nt|daman: good stuff|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o50|st||md|4SQT3HJ5D7653CJ862,SA96HT842DA8CAT95,SJ742HAQ973D9CKQ3,SK85HK6DKQJT42C74|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|henryb:  bragging again Roland?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: not the start nickel wanted|pg||
pc|h3|nt|barnets: 10 imps away|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|hK|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
nt|barnets: now a diamond|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: at trick one Zia said: "I guess I better take the safety play"|pg||
nt|barnets: best|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h7|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|cT|pc|s7|pg||
pc|dT|pc|c8|pc|s9|mc|10|pg||
qx|c50|st||md|4SQT3HJ5D7653CJ862,SA96HT842DA8CAT95,SJ742HAQ973D9CKQ3,SK85HK6DKQJT42C74|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfc: now we are officially starting!!!|pg||
nt|ritong: hello there|pg||
nt|casenjo:  hi, Henri @H|pg||
nt|joest: well done|pg||
nt|joest: diamond shift as well as diamond underlead|pg||
nt|chthonic: Could not have anticipated that line.|pg||
nt|ady: start with 4 imps to Nickell   so all square|pg||
nt|chthonic: So, four IMPs|pg||
nt|roswolf: slam possible here|pg||
nt|joest: 4@s really went off one in the other room?|pg||
nt|granguru:  but in such a case lead would have been @CA..so most probable N had other 2 kings|pg||
nt|joest: Nickell has come behind in each of the last two matches in the fourth quarter but not starting that way|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|daman: he took so long he fell asleep|pg||
nt|joest: east-west may do a lot of bidding here but their hands are 'mirroors"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D=10-13 HCP, 5+@D, unbal  [6@D=unbal]|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: bsr henri|pg||
nt|daman: time for a slam|pg||
nt|joest: mirrors|pg||
mb|2H!|nt|joest: Zia for once at the top|pg||
nt|daman: that will change|pg||
nt|chthonic: self-hypnosis?|pg||
nt|joest: so they will need to pick up hearts and hve the club hook work as well|pg||
nt|granguru:  2@D is in fact 9-13 in 1st and 2nd position|pg||
nt|joest: Nunes Fantoni play a unique system where all their one bids (except 1NT) are unlimited and forcing|pg||
mb|d|nt|kareno: Al is our systems encyclopedia :)|pg||
nt|granguru:  6@D mainly in third and 4th|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: range? Where is Al Holland when you need him?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 5+@D GF|pg||
nt|daman: hey don't play well unless they are 40-50 behind|pg||
nt|roswolf: dont think slam will be bid|pg||
nt|granguru:  if a real weak 2|pg||
mb|r|nt|peachy: Hi Henri|pg||
nt|joest: 6NT is best b/c it can make even if hearts do not come home|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: 2NT probably a club transfer|pg||
nt|daman: Sominex Coup|pg||
mb|2N!|nt|Walddk5: 15-17|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT is waiting|pg||
nt|joest: in some partnerships, 4@c now by south shows 4 clubs + 3 hearts|pg||
nt|roswolf: HH|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: but we'll see how they do it|pg||
nt|daman: trump|pg||
nt|granguru:  2@H shows 12+ nf|pg||
nt|joest: 2@h an artificial ask and I suspect redouble asked for further description, particularly a heart stopper|pg||
nt|joest: NF on four small?|pg||
mb|3C!|nt|ady: hardly expect a heart lead here|pg||
nt|psyck: W could have tried more on 2@d, but settled for 2@h NV|pg||
nt|granguru:  u are right it is a relay|pg||
nt|ahollan1: jack is right  2@H=RELAY,  INV+|pg||
nt|granguru:  they use a relay over all 2 opening with next suit|pg||
nt|granguru:  y sorry ..|pg||
nt|joest: unless they skip a beat, they are headed for a pretty boring 3NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: at this point Hamman would like to use double roman key card for hearts and clubs|pg||
mb|3N|nt|gambit: J@S lead after that auction |pg||
nt|casenjo:  Roddy knows Jeff is broke|pg||
nt|peachy: http://www.archiviobridge.it/lauria-versace.pdf  NS card. It is a WBF card but surely they havvent changed much|pg||
nt|casenjo:  For those non-Precision people, please read Bigtrain's commentary for perfect explanations|pg||
nt|tez: 8 of @s great card:)|pg||
nt|gambit: assuming E/W can unblock the clubs, this is an easy defeat |pg||
nt|casenjo:  yes, and we see it went down in the other room|pg||
nt|joest: but i don't know if they play that|pg||
nt|joest: he just cares about aces, the heart king, and the round queens|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: ace lead from AKx(x); meck's signal is standard|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Hi Walter|pg||
nt|bigtrain: hi joanne|pg||
nt|ady: ruff a diamond  cash K@C  and ruff a club  and ruff a diamond with A@H|pg||
nt|daman: Rodwell bid 2NT over 2@D|pg||
nt|ady: thats 6 tricks    then play 4th club and discard a spade|pg||
nt|chthonic: As would I.|pg||
nt|chthonic: But they are playing Precision, so it would be less likely to do so for them.|pg||
nt|chthonic: I would think|pg||
nt|daman: they always scratch for a makeable game|pg||
nt|chthonic: Can trick two be so hard?|pg||
nt|psyck: Yes, E's hand more likely to be lighter other room than this room, that did not stop Rodwell from inviting |pg||
nt|chthonic: Ace of D, ruff, cash KC, maybe play another club and pitch a spade, ....|pg||
nt|daman: look how long he took on the last one|pg||
nt|joest: Helgemo and Helness obviously open four card majors|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: that looks like two + a queen|pg||
nt|joest: some pairs have steps that distinguish which queen, or whether both queens|pg||
mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|peachy: Glad to have Walter here, he knows Meckwell system |pg||
nt|gambit: puts terror into the heart of the declarer, he doesn't know E can't get the lead...|pg||
nt|casenjo:  for the hundres watching 'bigtrain' was my first bridge teacher at Ohio State|pg||
nt|gambit: wow...nice to have such a mentor|pg||
nt|ady: good evening all|pg||
nt|granguru:  I was mistaken because i play a modified fantunes system where relay over 2D and majors is 2N |pg||
nt|joest: that's a mistake any of us could make :)|pg||
pc|h2|nt|joest: this sounds like it could be to play|pg||
nt|joest: 6@c is still safer than 6@h|pg||
nt|roswolf: THE NORSEMEN ARE FEARLESS|pg||
nt|joest: good evening David|pg||
nt|ady: hi Jack|pg||
nt|joest: i'm downloading their card from the net now|pg||
nt|roswolf: e/w are very aggressive - and light openings are common|pg||
pc|h3|nt|casenjo:  I'm happy with the results :)|pg||
nt|daman: six key card that shows @C Q and not @H Q|pg||
nt|joest: thanks George|pg||
nt|roswolf: you should see some hands they have opened!|pg||
nt|ady: not a great slam    duplicated shape      but will come home|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|joest: he might even just claim to save time for the hard hands |pg||
nt|granguru:  rodwell meckstroth play a udca style of signaling...all encouraging in inverted way--|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
nt|psyck: This will probably be the last set these two pairs play, with the other two pairs finishing the final two sets|pg||
mc|10|nt|gambit: nice lead, and fortuitous break. Wd by Roddy |pg||
nt|peachy: Rodwell might/might not be having discard trouble soon\|pg||
nt|gambit: Declarer fantazing about Kx@D onside allowing contract to make, but not today|pg||
nt|bigtrain: won't have much of a problem|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Was Meckstroth's 9@H a spade indicator?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  If so, Eric can safely pitch a spade|pg||
pg||
qx|o51|st||md|1ST72H6DAKJ74CA864,SK864HT8DQT983CKJ,SQ953HAKQJ5D65CQ5,SAJH97432D2CT9732|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|barnets: likely 3N north south|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: cards dont lie so well|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|barnets: strts with 8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|s2|pc|hT|pg||
pc|hA|nt|barnets: he has neither 5 in hearts or 3 in diamonds|pg||
pc|h2|pc|d4|nt|barnets: def in control I think|pg||
nt|barnets: hamman has 2 entries to set up and cash clubs|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|barnets: in closed 3N by south|pg||
nt|barnets: on a heart lead by east|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|c2|pc|dA|pg||
nt|henryb:  East can't be on lead if South is declaring, Barnet|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  Did he lead out of turn, Barnet?|pg||
nt|barnets: west sorry|pg||
nt|barnets: ok i got it guys|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: concedes -1|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c51|st||md|1ST72H6DAKJ74CA864,SK864HT8DQT983CKJ,SQ953HAKQJ5D65CQ5,SAJH97432D2CT9732|sv|e|nt|gambit: down to 24....|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|joest: how aggressive will Helness be oppposite a strong NT?|pg||
mb|1H|nt|roswolf: at these colors very|pg||
nt|joest: now I know some that would act with north's hand but I would not have suspected Bob: even at favorable!|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: may be able to penalise n/s|pg||
nt|granguru:  maybe I didnt express myself well....low is encouraging in all posible situations|pg||
mb|2C|nt|gambit: no doubt Jeff and Eric are hoping for more shapely and imaginative hands|pg||
nt|joest: one questin to discuss with your partner if you play Drury:  is 2@c drury here or natural?|pg||
nt|joest: Meck's 2@c rebid shows four but his minor suit lengths are still ambiguous|pg||
mb|p|nt|psyck: Double again?|pg||
nt|ady: did well to get our for down 1 in 3@H|pg||
nt|chthonic: Sure.  have to compete.|pg||
nt|psyck: N will not sell out easily at this vul|pg||
nt|chthonic: even favorable vul|pg||
nt|kareno: 3nt most likely ending to the auction.|pg||
mb|2S|nt|granguru:  count, attitude, preference, smith and surrogate|pg||
mb|p|nt|chthonic: seems NS should have had a way to bid 3C non-aggressively -- a version of Good-bad, for example?|pg||
mb|2N|nt|joest: 3@d seems sort of straightforward but some pairs play that must be fit-showing by a passed hand in which case I guess you have to do something else|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: cards lay that this should make|pg||
nt|joest: yes the hammer was awaiting in 4 :)|pg||
mb|3N|nt|daman: I think N shd double again|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  remember last quarter? they gained 20 in 2 boards|pg||
nt|gambit: no...venturing too high |pg||
nt|casenjo:  Patience can be a virtue.....running out of patience can be a disaster|pg||
nt|joest: anyway: a great chance for Nickell to be plus at both tables|pg||
nt|daman: In a few minutes, the Spingold Finals will begin. Use the new BBO version and you can "hear" the voice of commentators Larry Cohen and Roland Wald! http://www.br...|pg||
nt|daman: idgebase.com/index.php|pg||
nt|daman: for those who want the audio|pg||
nt|joest: Hamman may 'guess' the heart king solely bbecaus he wants to avoid a spade ruff if he loses to the king|pg||
nt|joest: note that having raised Zia leadshigh from three to clue his partner in to the fact that he has nothing in diamonds|pg||
nt|roswolf: not the greatest contract i have seen|pg||
nt|roswolf: north knows that already:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: with north known to be two suited it would not amaze me to see Helness start the @hQ out of his hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: it would be a super play|pg||
nt|roswolf: but a fair point|pg||
pc|hT|nt|psyck: Good - Bad does not apply in this seq, it is when RHO makes a 2 level bid|pg||
nt|ady: 3@D   down 2   might have got 300   with sing. club on lead|pg||
nt|joest: things don't split so well here|pg||
nt|granguru:  fantoni nunes play slavinsky defensive leads|pg||
pc|hA|nt|gambit: he want to lead a heart but can't from that holding|pg||
nt|joest: of course from his point of view that is conceding going down unless he drops the king|pg||
pc|h4|nt|gambit: hmmm|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup david|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Nice lead by Jeff Meckstroth|pg||
nt|gambit: that helps the def|pg||
nt|joest: 2 diamonds + 2 clubs + 1 heart + 1 spade|pg||
nt|joest: not to mention that the heart length cuts his communicaton with dummy at trick one|pg||
pc|hK|nt|casenjo:  Zia ran off his clubs and managed 9 tricks|pg||
nt|gambit: how will Zia make that? He must be swinging (as predicted) already |pg||
nt|casenjo:  On Board 34, sorry|pg||
nt|bigtrain: E pitched3 spades which squeezes W in 3 suits|pg||
nt|granguru:  that is small from xx xxxx Hxx  Hxxxx Hxxxxxx|pg||
nt|bigtrain: sorry putting kids to bed|pg||
pc|h3|nt|daman: they keep playing 1 level lower than the OR at this table   they need to compete and push the opps up|pg||
nt|joest: yeah I think Zia's 3@d was predicated on a hope his opponents might bail him out|pg||
pc|c4|nt|casenjo:  correct|pg||
nt|gambit: q@D|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|bigtrain: hamman zia never exposed south's distribution so the defense was guessing|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ady: defenders cant attack spades with any success  and a club trick can be set up for a discard   though Katz can ruff the 3rd club  but that is with his trump trick|pg||
pc|h2|nt|granguru:  except 10 where they lead hi with 10x|pg||
pc|s2|nt|casenjo:  The auction more or less gave the hand away, but now, you need the guts to underlead your Ace|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2nt shows 9 minors with a singleton in responders major|pg||
nt|joest: so 3-1-5-4 or 3-1-4-5|pg||
nt|granguru:  some exceptions where finesse are involved: low with kj92 q1082 they lead the 2|pg||
nt|joest: well the uber-straightforward play is to cash the heart and play for luck in @ds|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|chthonic: As it is written, but I play it on in this sequence -- you can make it work.|pg||
nt|daman: gonna beat it 1 if he plays anything but a @S|pg||
nt|psyck: oh, you meant 3@c by S on 2@h, yes that would fit in GB, i thought you meant when N's turn|pg||
nt|chthonic: Yes.... |pg||
pc|h9|nt|chthonic: ah...|pg||
pc|s7|nt|daman: gag|pg||
nt|granguru:  surrogate signals are those made in a different suit reflecting a situation regarding a critical suit|pg||
nt|kareno: Nine calling spades I suppose.|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|casenjo:  On the auction NOrth is marked with 5-4-4|pg||
nt|chthonic: no, I meant by south, correct|pg||
nt|ady: no sorry   of course wrong   no club can be set up|pg||
pc|d5|nt|daman: snatched defeat from the jaws of victory|pg||
pc|d2|nt|joest: Fantoni still has to be worried Meck has a five card club suit|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s6|nt|casenjo:  1-5-4-3 is possible, but not likely without having shown a big hand|pg||
nt|gambit: I remember playing Barry Crane in Cobo Hall in Detroit, 1978/79 and we were killing them after 3 boards, I prayed for 4 banal, simplistic hands, alas my prayers were answered, but ...|pg||
nt|gambit: I was still as heathen, never going to church except for weddings and funerals, God forgive me |pg||
nt|gambit: See Barry and me, Google it... |pg||
nt|roswolf: it happened|pg||
pc|s3|nt|joest: so this seems to be headed two down but still 2 imps to Nickell|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg||
nt|joest: declarer appears headed down 2 for a 2 imp loss|pg||
pc|sA|nt|roswolf: the bail out i mean|pg||
pc|c6|nt|daman: fierce signal|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d6|nt|Vugraphzfc: Zia went for coffee for the table|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d9|nt|gambit: Is there another Barry? Folow the link |pg||
pc|h5|pc|c3|pg||
nt|granguru:  for instance dummy has a long suit and no side entries..KQJxxxx. declarer plays trumps before playing this suit..how to know if you take in second position your ace at once or at second round? if you use trump spots to signal this side suit|pg||
nt|joest: I think Meck has seen enough of this hand|pg||
mc|7|nt|granguru:  you can do always the right play|pg||
pg||
qx|o52|st||md|2SQ3HQJT842D4C8743,SJ87HAK9D76CAKQ92,SK54H65DAJT95CT65,SAT962H73DKQ832CJ|sv|b|nt|barnets: couldnt make it|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|henryb:  1@d overcall fot in Zia's way|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb:  He had planned to bid 2N|pg||
pc|d4|nt|barnets: South has a ruff and a trump but thats just 3 tricks|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|s3|pc|d7|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s4|nt|barnets: two spade finesses in case nort has @SKQX|pg||
nt|barnets: only loses to 7 hearts in south|pg||
nt|barnets: not too likely|pg||
nt|barnets: North must have at least 1 honour|pg||
nt|barnets: to bid |pg||
nt|henryb:  @hQ?|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|sT|pc|h2|pc|s7|pc|sK|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c52|st||md|2SQ3HQJT842D4C8743,SJ87HAK9D76CAKQ92,SK54H65DAJT95CT65,SAT962H73DKQ832CJ|sv|b|nt|casenjo:  all the defense knew was that North was short in spades, and had clubs, perhaps a negative inference that South has Spades|pg||
nt|casenjo:  There is and will ever only be ONE Barry....for those newer to Bridge, that is the long gone, Barry Crane|pg||
nt|chthonic: KS, -- really?|pg||
nt|daman: if he simply plays a @D   they are one down|pg||
nt|daman: was he hoping for -2 with a @H trick en passant?|pg||
nt|daman: really greedy play by Katz|pg||
nt|ady: defensive error   need passive defence last hand after the overruff|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is a trappy hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: fantunes wbf cc contains explanation of slawinski leads  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/italy/fantoni-nunes.pdf|pg||
mb|1C|nt|casenjo:  You could fill a good book with Barry Crane stories|pg||
nt|joest: well done by Nunes and Fantoni|pg||
mb|1D|nt|bigtrain: 2+ (usually) 10-15|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or for the entire book that introduced the leads  http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/ forster/bridge/development/slawinski/|pg||
mb|1H!|an|!S|nt|casenjo:  A kibbitzer pointed out the 'tiredness' factor|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@H = 5@S 4+@H less than invitational|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Both 4-man teams lost yesterday|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 2+@D 10-15|pg||
mb|d|an|!H|nt|Walddk5: Photos from Toronto at  www.confsudbridge.org   courtesy of Catarina Robles|pg||
nt|daman: if partner has the @S Ace it will never go away    if he has the @S K    you are letting them make|pg||
nt|psyck: 5@c was a reasonable contract, needed @sA right or a long neck|pg||
nt|joest: now is 2NT here a strong NT or the minors?|pg||
nt|joest: it varies from partnership to partnership|pg||
nt|roswolf: aggression is the hallmark of the norsemen|pg||
nt|joest: and I can't tell what Zia intends on this one!|pg||
mb|1S|nt|daman: they don't play Sandwich NT I assume :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: he could have cashed the fifth heart so long as he cashed the spade ace first|pg||
mb|4S|nt|gambit: I did not play WITH Barry, folow the postedlink, I played against him and Mike Smolen |pg||
nt|joest: no and fewer and fewer expert pairs do|pg||
nt|daman: yes    |pg||
nt|daman: but it has it's place with those trying to learn the game|pg||
nt|joest: in these days you can get stolen blind.  You need something to protect yourself although admittedly you always take a chance coming in the sandwich seat|pg||
nt|ady: a little high to come in at the 4 level?|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: looked the unusual variety|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: 4@C is straight from hunger with no fit for partner|pg||
nt|ady: seems 4@H a make e/w|pg||
nt|joest: did 1@s show anything extra?|pg||
pc|h6|nt|casenjo:  ANOTHER ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE, NOW GONE|pg||
nt|joest: with the ace of diamonds only doubleton, it won't be possible to stop 7 tricks|pg||
nt|ady: can always beat 5@C  by cashing A@S  and playing a heart |pg||
nt|chthonic: Spade Ace then heart looks right, is right.|pg||
nt|joest: yes but a bit tough to reach|pg||
nt|roswolf: ultra tough|pg||
nt|ady: also 4@S makes|pg||
nt|joest: 1@s showed 3|pg||
pc|h3|nt|daman: and maybe an endplay for 8|pg||
nt|joest: note Zia leads low in case stiff ace is onside|pg||
nt|joest: precisely|pg||
nt|kareno: 3 spades I assume|pg||
pc|hT|nt|daman: easy defense to beat this   Cash the @S Ace  over to a @H   @S ruff|pg||
nt|psyck: E had no @h wastage, & bidding markd pd with short @h's, so all pd's cards should fit well, so I think 4@c bid was ok|pg||
nt|joest: on board 35, Meckwell was permitted to buy the hand in 2@h|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|chthonic: QH.....|pg||
nt|daman: y|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sA|nt|joest: and the jack almost certainly suggests heart strength|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|gambit: scroll back|pg||
nt|gambit: note Rodwell did not lead a diamond in spite of his juicy holding|pg||
nt|gambit: http://cam.bridgeblogging.com/?p=7|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I just had a kibbitzer comment:" OMG! An hour to play 3 boards"|pg||
nt|gambit: sad but true|pg||
nt|ritong: cards weight heavier at that stage|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I told him:  "it is like watching paint dry. That is why I try to entertain you guys with bridge stories"|pg||
nt|bigtrain: they alllow about 9 minutes per board when playing behind screens|pg||
nt|casenjo:  But if you rather we do not, we can stop and you can watch the paint dry|pg||
nt|gambit: do we need dancing girls to keep you guys (and gals) entertained? |pg||
nt|casenjo:  Seems like most of you want to be entertained|pg||
pc|c3|nt|Walddk5: Watch multiple tables through  www.bridgebase.com/mobile|pg||
nt|joest: don't know if Multon's diamond play was a Smith Echo (= "I hate hearts")|pg||
pc|c2|nt|chthonic: No reason to lead AS unless stiff|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|nt|joest: anyway Zimmerman didn't continue them!|pg||
nt|ady: just down 1|pg||
nt|daman: same D in the OR|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|pg||
nt|daman: can't find their system anywhere|pg||
nt|daman: basci SEF I'm sure|pg||
mc|10|nt|casenjo:  Someone just asked what was the worst thing about my ex-husband: Only one. He was never home, not even for dinner :(|pg||
nt|bigtrain: screens divide the table in half - corner to corner|pg||
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qx|o53|st||md|3SJT42HJT873DJ9CJ2,SK953HA4DQ2CQT643,SAQ8H9652DK83CAK7,S76HKQDAT7654C985|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|barnets: 2 more ips Monaco when Meck was dwon2 in 3N|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|barnets: down 2 |pg||
mb|p|nt|henryb:  South has a better Kjob hand than bridge|pg||
mb|p|nt|henryb:  Klob|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Zia mimes a sigh of relief on his side of the screen|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c53|st||md|3SJT42HJT873DJ9CJ2,SK953HA4DQ2CQT643,SAQ8H9652DK83CAK7,S76HKQDAT7654C985|sv|n|nt|casenjo:  Answer to another question: Yes, we had a baby together, he will be 23 tomorrow and is an aerospace engineer|pg||
nt|gambit: ok, here is one tale.......back in the old days, a friend of mine asked if he could use a lighter belonging to one of the opps, the answer was "I don't think someone in blue jeans ...|pg||
nt|gambit: should TOUCH a gold lighter". Who was this Mckenny winner?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: all of Fantunes opening 1-suit are unlimited and forcing   1@C=4+@C & 14+ HCP or 2+@C [bal] 15+ HCP|pg||
mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|nt|casenjo:  15-17|pg||
nt|bigtrain: here is a picture|pg||
nt|ady: 6@H a make|pg||
nt|roswolf: this could be stratospheric|pg||
mb|2C|nt|joest: operator was tha5 150 or only 120?|pg||
nt|joest: i only counted 8 tricks after the endplay|pg||
nt|daman: what would you bid here folks?|pg||
nt|ady: nice double fit e/w|pg||
nt|chthonic: Nice psych|pg||
nt|daman: thats a Craig psyche|pg||
nt|chthonic: Zimmerman can expose with a 2S bid|pg||
nt|psyck: I'd bid 4@h on 1@h|pg||
nt|joest: :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|joest: it's been corrected.  Thanks operator|pg||
nt|roswolf: east continues the club barrage!?|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: pass|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Answer to another question:Best thing about Drew Casen: Answer: besides sex? GREAT bridge partner. GREAT dad|pg||
nt|bigtrain: http://www.bridgewinners.com/  here is a picture if u wanna give them |pg||
nt|chthonic: psyche is a two-syllable word...|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
nt|ady: yes as kibs mentioned a decent sac in clubs|pg||
nt|joest: that is a big bid!|pg||
nt|joest: I think Zia will just shoot out 6@h|pg||
nt|roswolf: zia may just punt the slam|pg||
nt|joest: just becauase it 'feels' like partner has a stiff|pg||
nt|roswolf: great minds think alike:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: I think it's courageous to think about balancing|pg||
mb|d|nt|joest: double here in modern parlance is just "I have extra values and no clear cut call"|pg||
nt|daman: 4@H will always get you 4@S by the opps|pg||
nt|daman: oh no|pg||
nt|psyck: Nickell can buy my id from me|pg||
nt|daman: Katz is thinking|pg||
nt|ady: 4@S e/w  not guaranteed to make|pg||
nt|chthonic: He does not need to buy it... he picked your pocket|pg||
nt|daman: going beyond 4@H is a sacrilege|pg||
nt|pfbr: but what does katz know?|pg||
nt|joest: let's see where a forcing pass takes him|pg||
nt|kareno: Thinking isn't the courageous part - doing it is :)|pg||
nt|joest: it sounds like RHO has spades as well as hearts so your window of safety is narrower|pg||
mb|p|nt|chthonic: Katz still thinking??  Why|pg||
mb|3D|nt|daman: gag|pg||
nt|chthonic: oh, no|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmmm laying doggo in the long grass|pg||
nt|joest: at the other table they balanced after a transfer auction, which is a little different|pg||
nt|joest: ini the meantime sign me up for partner's who produce six card suits for me|pg||
nt|kareno: Definitely but still gutsy with the minors as they are.|pg||
mb|3H|nt|daman: can you imagine|pg||
nt|chthonic: no, I cannot|pg||
nt|daman: this is how they get doubled|pg||
nt|psyck: now if they wake up & x, will fetch more than their game|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Katz pointed at 4@H bid|pg||
nt|daman: splinter?|pg||
nt|chthonic: Maybe they will go higher|pg||
nt|psyck: 4@h splinte, 5@h ekcb?|pg||
nt|daman: it does not pay to mastermind|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: katz in agony|pg||
nt|daman: surely he will pass this|pg||
nt|joest: Helgemo and Hellness defended that last hand well.  I believe Monaco is in a position to make 3@c right now in the other room|pg||
nt|roswolf: the forcing pass is akin to hiding away ready to spring to slam if pard shows any sign of life:)|pg||
nt|joest: Helgemo considering a seven level dive probably|pg||
nt|joest: or maybe he was gonig to remove double to 5@h to 'highly suggest' slam.  I'm not sure|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 0-7 any|pg||
nt|chthonic: Maybe system got in the way of a nice psych.|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: 7@H|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@S = 4+ forcing|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 0-5 not 4@S|pg||
nt|daman: here are the systems for the 3 pairs on the Nickell team    the 3 Nickel pairs from the USBF site - http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=655&Itemid=284|pg||
nt|daman: oh no|pg||
nt|ady: can only be good for Nickell|pg||
nt|roswolf: PLAY WILL BE QUICK|pg||
pc|c9|nt|joest: I don't think 2@s goes for enough to compensate for a red game|pg||
nt|daman: nah    they want to be in game and not defending|pg||
nt|joest: anyway Hamman didn't want to wait around to find out|pg||
nt|joest: random unbiddable spot cards can affect that kind of result|pg||
nt|daman: plus   he LOVES to play 3NT|pg||
nt|joest: i'm being told it goes 800 on a trump promo which looks right.  That is still a random result and Hamman has a lifetime experience of whether it's worth passing 2@s at these colors|pg||
nt|daman: he will play the King   and finesse a @S|pg||
nt|chthonic: ......................|pg||
nt|daman: I can't believe North's bidding|pg||
nt|psyck: 6@c=2 key cards without trump Q|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|psyck: 6@h asks for 3rd round @h control for 7@s|pg||
nt|daman: in the old days      and even now        4@H would always be the last bid|pg||
nt|chthonic: what a debacle.|pg||
nt|ady: got everything right to make 11 tricks in spades OR|pg||
nt|ady: cant accuse north of fielding a psche|pg||
nt|daman: Perhaps Katz is thinking   and continues to think  that his partner is short in @Hs|pg||
nt|chthonic: As I suppose he does..|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|bigtrain: just another cold game :)|pg||
nt|gambit: 10@S no choice|pg||
nt|peachy: not going down whatever he plays now|pg||
nt|peachy: but he of course does not know it|pg||
nt|gambit: this is an example of why "super accepting" has its risks, what is part had xxxxx jxx  qxx xx|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i think they play this shows a minimum with 4+trump|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@D = natural either suit can be longer|pg||
nt|joest: at the other table declarer ducked in both hands|pg||
nt|joest: Monaco did make 3@c on board 36 to gain 7 back|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|daman: not a lifetime.....only 55 years|pg||
nt|joest: Eric always takes time tothink hands through at the inception of play when he declares|pg||
nt|joest: not forever mind you|pg||
pc|h2|nt|daman: whoops|pg||
nt|chthonic: A premature double?|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
nt|daman: premature burial|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s2|nt|joest: then assuming you can play clubs for three tricks (and that the spade hook is on) you can play for 2 spades + 3 hearts + 3 clubs +_ 1 diamond|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|nt|gambit: another hint, deceased, not Grant, not Paul|pg||
nt|daman: right|pg||
nt|joest: not sure which Z played low at trick one|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hA|pg||
nt|casenjo:  me|pg||
nt|daman: could be the dreaded endplay coming for East|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o54|st||md|4SJ9832H864D52CQ64,SKTHAJT52DKJ4CAT8,SQ5HQ97DT983C9532,SA764HK3DAQ76CKJ7|sv|e|nt|henryb:  1N - 6N?|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|henryb:  Or do you try Stayman on the way?|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|barnets: like to play these kind of hands|pg||
mb|5N|mb|p|mb|6N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: I like that auction|pg||
nt|henryb:  5N is no longer an invitation to 7, as it was when I was young|pg||
nt|barnets: 5N was forcing pick a slam|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: lots of banter among these friends.  Sammy Kehela is kibitzing Zia is talking to him a lot.|pg||
nt|henryb:  It is "pick a slam: either 6@h or 6N|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Zia is talking to Sammy that is|pg||
pc|s2|nt|barnets: no 5N is not an invitation to 7|pg||
nt|barnets: for the specs|pg||
nt|henryb:  It was when I was learning bridge half a century ago|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h3|nt|barnets: it asks east to pick probably between hearts and nt but he could venture a good 5 card suit in between|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg||
mc|12|nt|barnets: 4N after 2@D is Quant|pg||
pg||
qx|c54|st||md|4SJ9832H864D52CQ64,SKTHAJT52DKJ4CAT8,SQ5HQ97DT983C9532,SA764HK3DAQ76CKJ7|sv|e|nt|gambit: sometimes (at thsi level) you can count on opps to do the right thing|pg||
nt|daman: no idea why he hung onto that @S|pg||
nt|daman: they had them set up beautifully     for about 20 seconds|pg||
mb|1C!|nt|bigtrain: its a forced shift since he knows @C pitches coming|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Board 53 narrowed the gap even more.|pg||
nt|casenjo:  We now have a mere 7 IMP match|pg||
nt|chthonic: my goodness.... opportunities flying about the table and on one picked any up.|pg||
mb|p|nt|chthonic: no one|pg||
nt|chthonic: could have picked up six IMPs improbably, but felt relieved, I imagine to have avoided a major loss.|pg||
nt|kareno: I would expect a push board here.|pg||
nt|joest: a classic 33 highs.  Just what were taught to have for 6NT|pg||
nt|frusco: 2@h|pg||
nt|granguru:  1@C might be bal 15-17 or 23+ or 14+ with @c|pg||
mb|2N!|nt|gambit: all true|pg||
nt|joest: uh no|pg||
nt|joest: Helness raised to 2@s on a lot less a few hands ago|pg||
nt|joest: of course he was nonvulnerable|pg||
nt|joest: i guess the only risk would be getting too high|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: note that Hamman has both majors for his double.  I sometimes see newer players double with only one major here|pg||
nt|joest: looks like a trick got away in the open room in 4@c|pg||
nt|joest: ace and a spade looks like a likely suspect|pg||
nt|joest: what would you bid here George?|pg||
nt|daman: @D Q was led|pg||
nt|daman: I would cuebid|pg||
nt|chthonic: After that excitement, the players have to calm down and play each hand as if it were the only one that matters.  No matter how mundane.|pg||
nt|joest: let's take a look at this again operator|pg||
nt|joest: 2NT = 10+ HCP 5-3-3-2|pg||
nt|granguru:  a 1NT nat opening in this case|pg||
nt|joest: with one of the majors being the five card suit|pg||
mb|3C!|nt|daman: 2NT must be some form of Dormer limit raise|pg||
nt|joest: 2NT by some pairs here is "four card limit raise"|pg||
nt|daman: no support double as you can see|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C!|nt|gambit: OK, here is a wild one....what bridge player was rescued by his uncle "Bugsy Seigal" after falling into the family pool?|pg||
nt|ady: going overboard again|pg||
nt|psyck: I would not make a supp x with E's hand even playing supp x|pg||
nt|daman: neither would I|pg||
nt|psyck: Need better than a 4333 min hand for it|pg||
nt|chthonic: Yes, too flat a hand.  Support doubles should not be played mandatory -- judgment counts.|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: on an equivalent auction at the other table, north bid 4@c|pg||
nt|joest: i don't know what 4@c is|pg||
nt|kareno: Maybe hearts?|pg||
nt|joest: I am told that it is five hearts with game forcing values|pg||
nt|joest: If you folks can slow it down a second that would be good.  My computer is lighting up like a Christmas tree :)|pg||
mb|6N|nt|casenjo:  Wow and just told only a 2 imp difference in the other match with 10 boards to go|pg||
nt|gambit: the player in blue jeans was a friend, Doug Fox|pg||
nt|gambit: indeed Soloway it was|pg||
nt|joest: turns out 3@d can't make|pg||
nt|daman: as did hamman|pg||
nt|daman: but they have 4 losers|pg||
nt|joest: if they cash them|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: Meck?|pg||
nt|joest: that didn't prove so easy in the open room|pg||
nt|daman: but I wouldn't have bid 4@C with the west hand on board 20 either|pg||
nt|ady: very nice lay for e/w   can make 11 trricks in spades|pg||
nt|joest: hmmm|pg||
nt|joest: wonder if there was an upper limit on 4@c|pg||
nt|kareno: Mad leaps to slam bar partner in my systems.  Let's see ...|pg||
nt|joest: it's just that 6NT seems like an abrupt end for this pair :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think 4@C = 5@H, 15+ HCP  [hope that hasn't been mentioned already]|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C was a RELAY|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: W reached for 7NT, but balked|pg||
nt|joest: well if its "+" how can Fantoni have any confidence that they can't make more than six?|pg||
nt|kareno: May I take a base?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: all runners advance|pg||
nt|kareno: Sorry, I've been to five baseball games in the past week :)|pg||
nt|joest: I'm getting lots of folks telling me what the bids mean|pg||
nt|joest: Ironically Nunes and Fantoni don't seem sure :)|pg||
nt|kareno: Fantoni seems sure|pg||
nt|granguru:  3@C asking |pg||
nt|joest: well Nunes has touched the 7NT card once already|pg||
nt|kit: I know what 7NT will likely mean -- lose 17|pg||
nt|joest: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  2@H is a friendly little contract with 3-3 hearts and 3-3 spades|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: 5 IMPs riding on it|pg||
nt|joest: this was the start next door, followed by ace and a spade|pg||
nt|granguru:  3@H would have been min any major|pg||
nt|kareno: I'm a big Blue Jays fan.  We have their AAA club in Las Vegas, the 51's|pg||
nt|joest: well the play won't take as long as the auction|pg||
pc|dT|nt|daman: East hand *|pg||
nt|chthonic: Orttman would do well here...|pg||
nt|granguru:  4@c is max with 5@H 4@D is max with 4@S|pg||
nt|granguru:  max meaning 15+|pg||
pc|d6|nt|gambit: Doug asked Ron if he he borrow thelighter...|pg||
nt|daman: if He leads the @S Ace    he can make|pg||
nt|ady: even 4@C can go down|pg||
nt|roswolf: the norsemen wield the axe|pg||
pc|d2|nt|joest: and in fairness to West if a low spade comes back, a spade return (for a possible ruff) looks more appealing than leading away from the heart king|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
pc|h2|nt|gambit: after Ron denied permission I guess Doug did notheng, no idea|pg||
nt|daman: yes it does|pg||
pc|h7|nt|gambit: @D through|pg||
nt|casenjo:  An interesting note, that applies to this match. Paul Soloway once said, "The average hand is a partial, the average hand is boring, the average hand I have played too many times to count...concentrating on ALL the hands is winning bridge"|pg||
pc|hK|nt|gambit: the words of a champion and gentleman, brb|pg||
nt|ritong: in fact the trick is to recognize quickly the hands you can relax a bit, in order to save energy|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Boards 51 and 53 won 10 IMPS both determined by 'parials'|pg||
nt|casenjo:  partials|pg||
nt|joest: 5@h was a bold move by Hamman imho|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|h3|nt|casenjo:  At this level, it is often the partials that win the event and not the slams.|pg||
nt|joest: voila|pg||
nt|daman: and there it is|pg||
pc|h6|nt|roswolf: hmm inspired bid by west|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg||
mc|12|nt|psyck: how should the bidding have gone after 2@c?|pg||
nt|daman: perhaps    2@D   or 2@H by South|pg||
nt|chthonic: Yes, 3D a bid extreme.|pg||
nt|chthonic: 3C is a tiny underbid -- maybe worth one cue bid -- 2H|pg||
nt|psyck: yes, I think both could bid less, though all comments so far are about S bidding less|pg||
nt|psyck: 4@d is as aggresive as 3@d in my opinion|pg||
nt|chthonic: I think South's choice of bids over the "free" 2C bid is crucial.|pg||
nt|joest: needing a rally, so far Nickell has yet to score here in the fourth quarter|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Nunes was confused|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 2nt 5 card major 5-3-3-2 pattern|pg||
pg||
qx|o55|st||md|1S943HAK2DKQT7CK62,SAQT76HJ8654D2CQ3,SKJ2H9DAJ964CJ854,S85HQT73D853CAT97|sv|b|nt|henryb:  how do you try for a GS nowadays, Barnet?|pg||
mb|1N|mb|2C|nt|barnets: I have to bid some other suits|pg||
mb|3H|nt|henryb:  on power: you have 20 or 21 and partner opens 1N|pg||
mb|4H|mb|d|nt|henryb:  say 20 with 5 hearts|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|Vugraphzfd: Zia:  I think I have my bid for the first time in a while.  might not stop the -800|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|c8|pc|h7|pg||
nt|henryb:  Not to worry, and the spades are well placed for you|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|d4|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|nt|henryb:  3@h by north was probably a form of Lebensohl showing a @s stopper, denying a @h stoppen and forcing to 3N or maybe 5 of a minor|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|hQ|pc|s9|pg||
mc|8|nt|Vugraphzfd: for our younger viewers, Sammy Kehela is one of Canada's great players.  He and his partner Eric Murray represented North America against the Italian Blue Team many times in the ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: 1960s.|pg||
nt|barnets: well 3n was making n/s|pg||
pg||
qx|c55|st||md|1S943HAK2DKQT7CK62,SAQT76HJ8654D2CQ3,SKJ2H9DAJ964CJ854,S85HQT73D853CAT97|sv|b|nt|casenjo:  6 Imp difference and 10 boards to go|pg||
nt|ady: down 2     would think that west would have competed to £@D   so 4@C  would be the lowest they could have played|pg||
nt|ady: 3@D|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: nunes left, now back|pg||
mb|1N!|an|14-16|nt|gambit: Of course Barry murder never solved, a sad blight on justice|pg||
nt|joest: I suspect this is West that bid 2@c|pg||
mb|2C|an|majors|mb|d|an|cards|nt|ady: this should be flatish unless e/w get too busy|pg||
mb|3H|an|preempt|nt|joest: in the other room north bid 3@h, a splinter.  Hamman took the push to 4@h and north-south took the cash|pg||
mb|3N|nt|gambit: no overcall, maybe Meck will spring to life |pg||
nt|daman: 1NT - 3NT here|pg||
nt|joest: interesting to see what lead Zia chooses.  Nothing is particularly appealing|pg||
nt|daman: low @S lead|pg||
nt|kit: This is a somewhat fortunate 3NT|pg||
nt|joest: both spade honors on|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: too rich for 3S, will bid 4|pg||
nt|gambit: or some treatment|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT = limit raise|pg||
nt|gambit: hell of a LR |pg||
nt|ritong: ?|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3nt seems pre-destined|pg||
nt|ady: will play 3NT e/w|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: Up to Nunes to duplicate the result.|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  3@S should make, losing a @S, 2@H and 1@C|pg||
nt|casenjo:  North opened 2@H|pg||
nt|ritong: we might miss a pass|pg||
nt|bigtrain: extra pass operator|pg||
pc|h4|nt|gambit: here comes 4@S|pg||
nt|daman: low @D could be fatal|pg||
nt|chthonic: This hand is not crucial.... opening lead of a heart would hold to three..  now time to set up a tenth trick?  Seems likely|pg||
pc|h9|nt|casenjo:  Again, the partial and not shooting for the stars, should produce a nice gain for Nickell|pg||
nt|ritong: i am sure EW would declare game if left to themselves|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: director call at the moment by meckstoth|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Meckstroth*|pg||
nt|ritong: which one is an other story|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: oh never mind its for the restroom...|pg||
nt|gambit: or puff....|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Rodwell has a wonderful habit of thinking at trick 1|pg||
nt|gambit: Well the crime scene suggested as much |pg||
nt|casenjo:  He is consistant and does it every hand, even if it doesn't matter|pg||
nt|daman: 4th from your longest and strongest|pg||
nt|joest: Hamman may well play his spade honors 'out of order', first king then queen to indicate that he has KQ doubleton|pg||
nt|daman: right|pg||
nt|granguru:  small @h from Hxx Hxxxx or xxxx|pg||
nt|joest: so let's see what Jeff Meckstroth thinks is the right line|pg||
nt|granguru:  might also be from HHxxx|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|joest: probably playing for what exists.  Other lines exist but they are deep|pg||
nt|kit: does he have a choice other thatn to play West for AQ of spades?|pg||
nt|joest: sure.  play east for Qx of spades and the club ace|pg||
pc|s4|nt|joest: as I said: deep|pg||
pc|s6|nt|gambit: no|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|peachy: not too far off, just spade fin working|pg||
nt|joest: i've learned just to say 'may well' :)|pg||
nt|daman: the @S 9 would be cool now|pg||
nt|chthonic: Why not run the diamonds?|pg||
nt|ady: little problem when J@C holds|pg||
nt|roswolf: always likely to get a trick on the lead|pg||
nt|ady: choice of plays that all seem to work|pg||
nt|joest: which red suit will he work?|pg||
nt|roswolf: diamonds look convenient|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|kit: very deep|pg||
pc|d4|nt|bigtrain: i'm pretty sure meck off tabacco currently...  but changes status frequently :)|pg||
pc|d3|nt|jtr: God!|pg||
nt|daman: Hi David|pg||
nt|jtr: Sorry:(|pg||
nt|pfbr: hi david :) nice introduciton :)|pg||
nt|daman: you don't have to call me God|pg||
nt|joest: Multon knows he is down if the heart king is off|pg||
nt|chthonic: And now a heart --|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
nt|chthonic: sooner or later|pg||
pc|s3|nt|bigtrain: 3@D is a help suit game try in theory although space is limited so it is somewhat random|pg||
nt|casenjo:  same contract in other room|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Oftentimes, a hand may look so easy and you might do lttle errors like winning the first trick in the wrong hand|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Jeff and Eric were both born in 1956|pg||
nt|joest: now he is cold with no further finesses|pg||
nt|joest: besides the heart|pg||
pc|sA|nt|ritong: excellent year|pg||
pc|s2|nt|roswolf: guessed well|pg||
nt|joest: assuming declarer has five hearts, Zia can see that declarer has nine tricks now|pg||
nt|joest: on the last board Meckstroth and Rodwell alsopushed to 5@s|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|h5|nt|daman: Helness switched to a @D|pg||
pc|c4|nt|joest: that's 3 imps the hard way|pg||
pc|hT|nt|chthonic: now we have burned the bridges to diamonds... |pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|joest: so long as he plays clubs into the safe hand|pg||
pc|h7|nt|daman: I might have won the @C Ace and played another @S after my partner signalled with the 2     I'm sure ralph has a good reason for ducking|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|c5|pg||
nt|ady: that looks best to hold to 9 tricks|pg||
pc|dT|nt|peachy: close games are bid when vul|pg||
pc|s7|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|daman: S is squeezed now|pg||
nt|daman: no   West didn't keep the 3rd @H|pg||
nt|daman: he might have to maroon the @H King |pg||
pc|sT|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dJ|mc|9|nt|joest: Zia about to be squeezed|pg||
nt|daman: squeezed|pg||
pg||
qx|o56|st||md|2SA2HKJ862DQT83C32,SQJ8754HQ7543D9C4,SK9HT9DAK64CJ8765,ST63HADJ752CAKQT9|sv|o|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|henryb:  Zia has no distributional inhibitions when it comes to opening weak 2's|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|s5|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: NS use standard count and upside down attitude|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|nt|barnets: on 54 west is thiking about bidding 7N in closed|pg||
pc|h3|pc|c6|pg||
nt|barnets: east bid 6N and west in the tank|pg||
nt|barnets: he passed|pg||
nt|henryb:  twice, actually; Murray a third time. But they played together for Canada in at least 5 straight Olympiads: 64 through 80|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|s4|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|s3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|sA|pc|hQ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|h8|nt|henryb:  @sA, @s, @s and 1 down|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c56|st||md|2SA2HKJ862DQT83C32,SQJ8754HQ7543D9C4,SK9HT9DAK64CJ8765,ST63HADJ752CAKQT9|sv|o|nt|casenjo:  New leader|pg||
nt|gambit: wow|pg||
nt|gambit: fabulous match, the way it should be|pg||
nt|gambit: maybe 1NT all pass , other table in 3@D|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i bet meck bids over 1NT|pg||
nt|joest: biggest swing of the match so far|pg||
nt|daman: in the other room   East bid @Hs|pg||
nt|daman: hard to believe with fantunes at the other table|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|joest: 1@d = 2+|pg||
mb|2C|nt|gambit: sybarra2: Are you the gagging police? |pg||
nt|joest: 10-13|pg||
nt|daman: In the OR East bid @H ART. Here, unless Multon opened on 14 he had to have the HQ to make up his count|pg||
nt|joest: good point George|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@D - @H|pg||
mb|2D|an|!H|nt|sybarra: B does not have a star but is a star,  and instructor LOL|pg||
nt|ady: have to duck the opening heart lead if east plays 3NT|pg||
nt|daman: 3NT was quite a reach in the OR|pg||
nt|daman: but it couldn't be avoided I suppose|pg||
nt|granguru:  2@C 11-17 @C|pg||
nt|joest: thanks Walter|pg||
mb|2S|nt|casenjo:  4@S on this hand in other room|pg||
nt|sybarra: sorry all privie|pg||
nt|casenjo:  So much for the 'fat ladies' out there|pg||
nt|ritong: now please.|pg||
nt|ritong: either you keep the private things private or i will take measures.|pg||
nt|daman: looks cold    5@Cs   3@Ss   1 @H|pg||
nt|joest: an interesting call|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 5+ neg free bid or better|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: I thought we were friends...guess we can't talk about barry or whatever...|pg||
nt|ady: cold  because we see all 4 hands|pg||
nt|kareno: That nicely solves the south hand.|pg||
nt|kit: Declarer may have enough info to make 4@S on this auction|pg||
mb|3H!|nt|gambit: 3@D?|pg||
nt|joest: but one that enables his partner to compete to 3@c|pg||
nt|ady: part score     diamonds best for n/s|pg||
mb|p|an|ok to lead !H|mb|4S|nt|daman: yes   he played @Ds and not @Cs|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: on a diamond switch, declarer has 3 diamonds + 3 clubs + 2 hearts plus various angles for  9|pg||
nt|joest: 2@c here clearly for the majors|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 3@S forces a 4@S bid with 3+trump|pg||
nt|gambit: what will he lead?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3NT would have been truly optional|pg||
nt|daman: if I was playing it I would play on @Cs   5-3 fit|pg||
pc|dA|nt|gambit: Q@C looks like the top of a sequence, not a stff, predict a heart|pg||
nt|granguru:  3@H was lead directing ...A or void|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|nt|ady: heart can go away on 3rd club|pg||
nt|ady: looks like 2 clubs 1 heart and a diamond    with spade finesse working|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|kareno: Didn't it show a spade fit?|pg||
nt|granguru:  also|pg||
nt|granguru:  tolerance|pg||
pc|dK|nt|joest: Hamman ducking to prevent Multon from gaining entry to push another trump through|pg||
nt|joest: winning the jack then switching is an ominous sign|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|s4|pg||
nt|ady: heart back now  can be awkward|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|nt|joest: indeed|pg||
nt|ady: cant get to hand for discard|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes indeed|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|ritong: so, let s concentrate on this really breathless match|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|h3|pc|c6|pg||
nt|psyck: you need @c anyway in 3N, only question was whether to play for @h's breaking & @s fin off in which case you need to try @d instead of @s|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|kit: In closed room, ruffed with ace of spades and led a spade to defeat congract.  Meckstroth may have to do same thing.|pg||
nt|joest: what a great -- and nonintuitive-- play that is|pg||
nt|kit: Looking at his hearts, it becomes easier to see.|pg||
nt|joest: Between Helgemo-Helness last set and Nunes-Fantoni this one I honestly do not believe they have dropped a single trick on defense|pg||
nt|kareno: North's opening should include spade king so that looks right to me too.  |pg||
pc|sA|pc|h4|nt|kit: well done|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|daman: I defer to meckstroth on declarer play|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|nt|joest: that play surpises me|pg||
nt|joest: he was going to get a chance to wina lower spade in just a moment|pg||
pc|sK|nt|daman: nice D  no matter|pg||
nt|ady: good defence|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: WRITE THAT UP|pg||
pc|s9|nt|gambit: clinging to those clubs as well he should|pg||
pc|sT|pc|h2|nt|joest: very well done, and at both tables|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h5|nt|joest: Meck can count declarer for five spades + 2 clubs + one heart + one heart ruff if he does this|pg||
mc|9|nt|psyck: oh, i see he knew @h not breaking in other room, but played for @dA to be with S|pg||
pg||
qx|o57|st||md|3SAQJ53HAQ2DT53CK7,ST962HT4DJ964CT62,SK84HK9DKQ87CQJ94,S7HJ87653DA2CA853|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d|an|4 or 5 spades|mb|p|mb|1S|an|3 spades|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|henryb:  In contrast to their sometimes teammate, Bobby Jordan, eric and Sammii were also famous for the very good cigars they both smoked|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: 12 v 0 so far this set for Monaco|pg||
pc|dA|nt|jtr:  Thanks all!|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
pc|h3|nt|henryb:  Sammi wrote the Toronto Globe and Mail bridge column for years|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|h6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dK|mc|11|pg||
qx|c57|st||md|3SAQJ53HAQ2DT53CK7,ST962HT4DJ964CT62,SK84HK9DKQ87CQJ94,S7HJ87653DA2CA853|sv|e|nt|gambit: need to start a @H to hold it to 5|pg||
nt|gambit: 3NT an option,,,,,|pg||
nt|gambit: 36 imps and opportunities waning|pg||
nt|bigtrain: actuaqlly its difficult to see how with best defense the lead matters...  looks like only 11 tricks regardless|pg||
nt|sybarra: and an entire set after this,   would not sell anyone short|pg||
nt|casenjo:  club lead in other room gave Hamman time for 12 trickes|pg||
nt|bigtrain: where does the 12th trick come from?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  and CAYNE is back in the lead|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Talk about excitement!!!! 8 boards to go|pg||
nt|ritong: 8 comps left|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Do not leave|pg||
nt|ritong: i guess so|pg||
nt|psyck: whech meands he played for all the rest of the high cards to be with S for the bidding|pg||
nt|ady: but should surely play clubs first    then take a view    might well get an idea after 5 rounds of clubs|pg||
mb|1N!|an|14-16|nt|chthonic: And none to N, despite the raise.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: the H's are defending well|pg||
mb|2H!|an|tx|nt|joest: kibs point out that his d guaranteed a set|pg||
nt|joest: if Hamman had a stiff spade|pg||
nt|joest: good point|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes they need to|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|gambit: certainly if any team is capable of mounting a comeback it is this team, starting and ending with Meckwell, not the best in the world for nothing|pg||
nt|casenjo:  heart loser went on spades and went on his merry way cross ruffing|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra2: this doesnt look right either |pg||
nt|casenjo:  WiFi problems all day|pg||
nt|bigtrain: missing 2 passes?|pg||
nt|sybarra2: maybe missing 2 passes this time?|pg||
mb|4N|nt|daman: finally|pg||
nt|psyck: I defer to Meck's decision to apologize|pg||
nt|daman: a pickup for Nickell|pg||
nt|ady: heart to look|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  yes, it is more dangerous on the commentary team than the playing teams|pg||
nt|casenjo:  But go ahead and fling your arrows|pg||
nt|chthonic: Good sized one.|pg||
nt|joest: Rodwell is passing any quantitative invites like this one|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: i'm quietly sitting in the corner waiting for things to sort themselves out :)|pg||
nt|joest: on the other hand declarer can have only two trumps left to ruff the two spades even in the worst of instances...|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: heh|pg||
nt|casenjo:  We can take it......|pg||
pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: good BAM result|pg||
nt|joest: :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: BAM = Board-a-Match  also known as Point-a-Board|pg||
pc|h2|nt|casenjo:  No, you are waiting for Precision auctions. We need you for all those alerts!!!|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
nt|peachy: 2M in 2C-2D-2M may be canape style says card|pg||
nt|joest: I can't find the 3@c call. Perhaps puppet stayman.  |pg||
nt|daman: or    a singleton somewhere|pg||
nt|daman: 3@D asked|pg||
nt|daman: 3@S = stiff|pg||
nt|joest: it could be a transfer i now but if it were a typical follow up would be 3@s for shortness|pg||
nt|joest: ok thanks george|pg||
nt|daman: 3@C was a transfer to 3@D and 3@S showed a singleton|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: lots of whispering, no written explanations|pg||
pc|c4|nt|gambit: Though my heart lies with Fred and his Diamond, this is the best, if track record is the measuring stick, and it should be |pg||
nt|ahollan1: you either win, lose or draw a board|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I think it will be tough for Mecstroth to find the @H lead now that Roddy hasn't double the cuebid|pg||
nt|granguru:  +1, -1 or 0 points|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c2|nt|ritong: walter has many pertinent comments to offer, hope he will now that our screens are a bit more unfilled|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|casenjo:  italian style: shows 4-5|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: most prestigious BAM event is in the Fall NABC, The Reisinger|pg||
nt|granguru:  or +1 0 +1/2|pg||
pc|s4|nt|psyck: they play 2N as puppet on 1N other room|pg||
nt|psyck: EW style of opening 1M instead of 1NT on these hands cost here|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sQ|nt|joest: declarer now just slated to lose one in each major|pg||
nt|joest: last chance to cash the spade ace here|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|ritong: but, as many among us, he may dislike commentating, or playing, or defending 1NT|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|nt|ady: may be down 1 |pg||
nt|joest: these are not easy discards coming up for declarer|pg||
pc|dK|nt|joest: which I think Zia will work out|pg||
nt|joest: unless of course I am wrong :(|pg||
nt|joest: Multon doesn't know diamonds aren't 4-1|pg||
nt|joest: he would hate to unblock clubs, hook the diamond and find himself losing a diamond, a club and a spade from this point|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|h5|nt|daman: he is concerned about who has the 4th @H too|pg||
nt|joest: so Hamman switched toa  low diamond.  |pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ritong: so many variantes  worse than a chess board|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o58|st||md|4SJ54HAJ64DQ974CT7,SKT6HKQ9DA5C98654,SA82HT85DJCAKQJ32,SQ973H732DKT8632C|sv|b|nt|henryb:  Sorry, Toronto Life|pg||
nt|barnets: Nickell may get off the schneid on 55 when Meckstroth in 3N|pg||
nt|barnets: 500 in this room|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|barnets: that is worth 4 imps|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|barnets: need about 4 a board|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|barnets: n/s  have at leat 8 in nt maybe get 9|pg||
nt|barnets: who knows they need to try|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg||
nt|henryb:  strange to have AKQJxx of a suit and need to lead low to run it|pg||
nt|barnets: helness  had in my opinion an extra ace|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg||
nt|henryb:  Helness is preparing for a heart endplay against Zia|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|d6|pc|c7|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|barnets: only 6 boards left in the match|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg||
nt|barnets: 9 to compare|pg||
nt|henryb:  why does he need a heart endplay? because otherwise he loses 5 trucks: 2@s, 2@h and a @d|pg||
pc|s6|nt|barnets: nunes in 4@S in 56|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|d3|nt|barnets: if he makes this could be the match|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|c3|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|sQ|pc|d9|pc|c8|pg||
nt|barnets: it was pointed out to me there may have been a winning line|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: and the endplay you predicted|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c58|st||md|4SJ54HAJ64DQ974CT7,SKT6HKQ9DA5C98654,SA82HT85DJCAKQJ32,SQ973H732DKT8632C|sv|b|nt|sybarra2: or just getting back to bd |pg||
nt|ritong: very|pg||
nt|ritong: extremely tough job|pg||
nt|daman: that helps the Nickell cause|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: score on 57 is missing|pg||
mb|p|nt|chthonic: On last hand 1NT not forcing?  1S - 1N; 2D - 3D; 3N...??|pg||
mb|1N|an|12-14|nt|bigtrain: 3@C = both minors, less than invitational values|pg||
nt|sybarra2: well rehi all,  we will try it abain |pg||
nt|ritong: ho hum|pg||
nt|sybarra2: did we miss a pass? |pg||
nt|ady: 12 tricks here on heart finesse|pg||
mb|d|mb|2C!|an|!D|nt|chthonic: what was the problem?  I don't attribute to the 1S bid.|pg||
nt|daman: they play SEF    whcih is like sayc|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C=5+@D   if you hadn't figured that out|pg||
nt|joest: 1NT = 12-14|pg||
nt|frusco: standard bid|pg||
mb|d|nt|gambit: perhaps dble from N might help S do the right thing|pg||
nt|joest: I suspect Zia will bid 2@h.  It is worth it to bid out your pattern (even if you know partner doesn'ts have four hearts)|pg||
nt|joest: wonder which one he would have played had Zia returned a spade instead of a diamond :)|pg||
mb|2D|nt|joest: b/c you know the opps have at least nine spades|pg||
nt|frusco: can NS bid 3nt?|pg||
mb|3C|nt|casenjo:  yes, that was when system went down|pg||
nt|joest: i suspect Jeff will 'grab' this|pg||
nt|granguru:  2@C is trf to 2@D|pg||
mb|3D|nt|gambit: he has a great hand...should be |pg||
mb|d|nt|ritong: i suppose this is a shortened auction|pg||
nt|daman: right    good point|pg||
mb|p|nt|chthonic: Then 1NT would have been better, it would appear|pg||
nt|psyck: surely non forcing for them, but passing E's hand over a non forcing bid is not for me, i would bid something|pg||
nt|kareno: Did 2@d ostensibly show 3 diamonds?|pg||
nt|joest: the cards lie quite well for east-west in this spot|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i doubt it Karen  just takes away a cue bid from opp|pg||
nt|joest: it is possible Rodwell might remove to 3NT.  I"m sure he thinks defending 3@d is scary|pg||
nt|kareno: I'll say.  Maybe he bids 3@s and south 3nt?|pg||
nt|joest: 3@s could be a suit couldn't it?|pg||
nt|granguru:  what side are you if 3@d doubled ?|pg||
nt|kareno: The @c ten will be a pleasant surprise if he does bid it|pg||
nt|granguru:  do you want to play or defend?|pg||
nt|granguru:  play wins 11-0|pg||
mb|3N|nt|granguru:  and now 3nt do you want to play or defend?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: north had shown up too much Jack   passed hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: contract is right and declarer too|pg||
nt|joest: maybe some question about whether 3@c is forcing.  Reversing after a 1NT response not necessarily the same as after one of a suit|pg||
nt|daman: but it will be unsuccessful|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: they have 2 boards remaining in the Open Room|pg||
nt|chthonic: Agree, but that leaves bidding 2D on xxx - not appealing, either.|pg||
nt|joest: now a heart back and another club|pg||
nt|joest: i would probably want to play 3@d|pg||
nt|granguru:  3- 1 play|pg||
nt|granguru:  5-2 def|pg||
nt|granguru:  6-3 def|pg||
pc|d2|nt|psyck: I play non forcing NT & bid with either shape or non minimum hands|pg||
nt|ady: not the best game|pg||
nt|granguru:  s lead defend 4|pg||
nt|granguru:  lost count|pg||
pc|d4|nt|ritong: but duboin had no reason to bid 4@s here|pg||
nt|joest: 4@h would have been a great result|pg||
nt|daman: down 2 if E switches to a @D|pg||
nt|joest: making on a dummy reversal|pg||
nt|daman: yes|pg||
nt|joest: these guys are defending extremely well this set|pg||
pc|dA|nt|bigtrain: @CQ is rusinow|pg||
nt|gambit: hands fit well, and things on-side and best lead for the def, S will hook the spade successfully knowing the W hand|pg||
nt|gambit: needs the K@H onside or not play therefore W is 1-2-5-5- or the like|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|joest: much easier to see looking at all four hands|pg||
nt|daman: has to play the K|pg||
nt|psyck: 2m rebid on 1N does not promise the earth even playing NF NT|pg||
nt|granguru:  around 12 defend if s lead|pg||
pc|c4|nt|granguru:  8 for playing it|pg||
nt|joest: a spade shift there was a might tough play|pg||
nt|joest: i think rodwell may have to win this in dummy and play hearts|pg||
pc|c3|nt|casenjo:  Kibbitzers have askedme about the 3@C bid, frequently used in Precision auctions|pg||
nt|roswolf: good to watch = we can all learn something|pg||
nt|kareno: Time for east to call spades.|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: did 3N have a chance if Fantoni makes Canape lead of @S?|pg||
nt|joest: then he can block the spade suit|pg||
nt|joest: this is looking at all four hands mind you|pg||
pc|cT|nt|bigtrain: i bet he's regretting not doubling about now|pg||
nt|gambit: neat toy |pg||
pc|c9|nt|gambit: doubt tht|pg||
nt|gambit: why double whwn they will make it or even, 1 trick set? |pg||
nt|gambit: will be claiming shortly |pg||
nt|bigtrain: actually was referring to the 5@S bid|pg||
nt|granguru:  @C9 means @s interest|pg||
nt|joest: then west gets squeezed in 3 suits on the run of the clubs|pg||
nt|joest:  I think |pg||
pc|cJ|nt|joest: I guess Zia thought that Helness would not pass an 11 count|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Zia said Helness opens all 11 counts, he can't have @SK|pg||
nt|joest: :)|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|cA|nt|loe48: no|pg||
pc|s3|nt|sybarra2: maybe the "system raise"   |pg||
nt|ritong: next time rodwell is declarer, i suggest you have a look at the scoresheet to check 57|pg||
pc|s4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cK|nt|bigtrain: much better to take the money and run here|pg||
pc|d8|nt|joest: i don't think he can do it from here|pg||
pc|d7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|daman: imo    4@C was a bit of a reach but I can understand his enthusiasm on the auction|pg||
nt|joest: yeah.  I'm sure if he knew 100% that 3@c was forcing he would have bid that|pg||
nt|granguru:  South will be squeezed on the last @C|pg||
nt|granguru:  E can throw a @h|pg||
pc|h7|nt|daman: -1 now|pg||
nt|joest: I suspect (but don't know) that he had some concern about that|pg||
nt|frusco: dummy discard 1@H and 1@s|pg||
nt|frusco: and nunes?|pg||
pc|h4|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c2|nt|kareno: 2 hearts maybe for the swindle|pg||
nt|joest: this looks headed down one|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other table is bidding 63|pg||
nt|joest: with declarer emerging with the 8 toppers he started with|pg||
nt|granguru:  @h7 even or discouraging (if signalling at all)|pg||
pc|dT|nt|ady: can make 13 now|pg||
nt|granguru:  @D10 is an excelent play|pg||
pc|d9|nt|chthonic: Only question is whether Katz will take all of the rest of the tricks.|pg||
nt|joest: it's hard to see anything from Rod's perspective that could work apart from Hx of hearts onside which is impossible on the heart pitch|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|ady: now he will|pg||
nt|granguru:  all best plays|pg||
pc|d5|nt|chthonic: not now|pg||
pc|s2|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h3|nt|kareno: -1|pg||
nt|joest: so Nickell will lose 5 here|pg||
mc|8|nt|granguru:  gorgeous defense|pg||
pg||
qx|o59|st||md|1SQ3HJT3DAJT6543C7,SA6HK982DK8CKJ952,SKJ94HA764D9CQT83,ST8752HQ5DQ72CA64|sv|o|nt|henryb:  this was well thought out|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|henryb:  and very well played since it had to be forseen at trick 1|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s6|nt|henryb:  now a @h shift is needed|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|hT|pc|d8|pg||
nt|henryb:  now a low heart and a spade back for 1 down|pg||
nt|barnets: in the 4@S meck also found the fine def of ruffing with the @SA and a trump|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|barnets: so that will be a push|pg||
pc|s5|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cA|nt|henryb:  2 down, right|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c59|st||md|1SQ3HJT3DAJT6543C7,SA6HK982DK8CKJ952,SKJ94HA764D9CQT83,ST8752HQ5DQ72CA64|sv|o|nt|casenjo:  And the players don't wait for the operator to catch up|pg||
nt|casenjo:  tough job|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Board 57 is scored now, but the Imps are not correct|pg||
nt|casenjo:  corrected now|pg||
nt|ritong: aren t they?|pg||
nt|ritong: good|pg||
nt|bigtrain: IMPs correct now...  |pg||
nt|bigtrain: do we know what the lead was here?|pg||
nt|ritong: if you feel a bit frustrated, just keep in mind that, without internet, you would just have the final result, even several days later|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i resume we in midplay somewhere|pg||
nt|casenjo:  No, but we need to give our poor vugraph operator a break here, he's crashed all night|pg||
nt|ritong: so, just put with " technical" problems with philosophy|pg||
mb|3D|nt|joest: the opening bid of 3@d bought it at the other table|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: seems diamond lead beats 4@H|pg||
nt|kareno: Should do here too|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: perhaps 2NT for the two lower|pg||
nt|psyck: no only 3@d tricks|pg||
nt|joest: 2@d is an interesting start by Hamman|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2@C is natural and GF|pg||
nt|casenjo:  This is a Precision Club where 1@C = 16+ HCP|pg||
nt|gambit: some number of spades or some toy to support|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any|pg||
nt|ady: more likely Q@S|pg||
nt|psyck: @s goes on @c|pg||
nt|psyck: & @h's vreak well|pg||
pc|sA|nt|ritong: i m not saying he is a snail, he always take at least 30 seconds when dummy comes down|pg||
nt|joest: Zimmerman will just bid 3@h and hope to be out of the auction|pg||
nt|daman: 3@C by Zia might have been a better bid|pg||
nt|psyck: oh, 4th @d promo\tes|pg||
nt|chthonic: Can Nickel find the diamond bid to set up the defense?  --- No|pg||
nt|ady: 3 diamonds and then 4th  gives Katz K@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: results for Open Swiss  posted at  http://www.bridgewinners.com/|pg||
pc|s4|nt|bigtrain: XX = 8-10 balanced|pg||
pc|s8|nt|joest: discouraging spade from east|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|joest: i doubt it is systemic but can't be sure :)|pg||
pc|h2|nt|daman: wow|pg||
nt|joest: Depending on what you are playing 3@c directly by Zia might have been 'invitational or better' in diamonds|pg||
nt|chthonic: As a very able kibitzer pointed out, it takes a diamond lead to beat 4H.  Well, how do you get a diamond lead?  By bidding diamonds....|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hQ|nt|Vugraphzfc: i am not sure how to change the scores but will find out|pg||
nt|ritong: good|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: brd 57 went down one in 1NT|pg||
nt|ritong: what is the score, for info?|pg||
nt|ritong: ok ty|pg||
nt|bigtrain: the opening lead is everything here|pg||
nt|bigtrain: @S jack or 10 beats 3NT|pg||
nt|jchiu: may pop king on a low spade, as Lauria did (but Helness did not)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: anything else and the contract scores if declarer works out the @S position|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Zia led a spade in the other room|pg||
nt|bigtrain: since 57 went -1 the actual score is nickell 103 cayne 101|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, 140 is 4 imps|pg||
nt|ritong: 90+50 that is|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Good question: Kibbitzer wants to know what is difference between open and closed room when we can see either room|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|casenjo:  At the tournament site, open room has kibbitzers, closed room does not|pg||
nt|sybarra2: or at least that was the way it was in the old days|pg||
nt|ritong: what s going on, nikita?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: closed room allows kibs at the beginning but no one enters after the play begins|pg||
nt|joest: if you'd done that you could afford to just sell out to 3@h b/c partner did open 3rd seat|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|daman: undo|pg||
nt|chthonic: sorry, two ll's in Nickell... typing ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: can yjey identify the clun hole for slam -for these guys of course|pg||
nt|roswolf: the club|pg||
nt|roswolf: they|pg||
pc|h5|nt|bigtrain: a slow 3NT here is more tenuious than a direct action|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@C shows 16+ hcp and any distributuion|pg||
pc|hT|nt|bigtrain: West's pass is forcing since E established a GF|pg||
pc|hK|nt|bigtrain: the X was just cards (nothing more to contribute)|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|joest: this is the second straight five of a minor that might have made ona very good day - but which won't|pg||
nt|ady: 4@S a decent save|pg||
pc|sK|nt|gambit: will never make|pg||
nt|casenjo:  The 2@C bid is highlighted without explanation, but Bigtrain explained that it sets a Game Force|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 5+@C and GF values|pg||
nt|gambit: 8+ Forcing, all us former precision players know that |pg||
nt|gambit: need new glasses?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  East knows that partner has 16+ and therefore knows that they have enough HCP for game|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Zia said i open my 11 counts, not like helness|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|c7|pc|d8|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h6|nt|joest: now a heart ruff and a promo|pg||
pc|d2|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sT|pc|dJ|nt|gambit: unblock ty|pg||
nt|gambit: you wish Fred. |pg||
nt|daman: Zia has been masterminding a bit this session|pg||
pc|dK|nt|casenjo:  21 hands left.....|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Looks like short break here|pg||
nt|gambit: Meck needs a puff|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|c2|nt|chthonic: Another kibitzer commented on my 2D suggestion -- I was serious.  With spade support, the call cries out in a competitve auction.|pg||
nt|daman: they are on the last board in the OR|pg||
nt|ady: nice card to see  9@H|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dA|mc|7|nt|psyck: passed hand, 2@d would show @s tolerance, so could be considered|pg||
nt|granguru:  we must be pretty greatful to BBO and organizers of the Spingold...the probably 2 best pairs in the world for us to enjoy here...and giving us an extraordinary show of the highest bridge quality possible...|pg||
pg||
qx|o60|st||md|2SQ2HA7D9864CA9753,ST73H95DAKT72CK64,SAK954HJ43DQJ53CJ,SJ86HKQT862DCQT82|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|3H|mb|d|nt|barnets: what will north bid if east passes ?|pg||
nt|henryb:  aaas  N do you pass 3@hX, plus a bunch, or bid 4@d, which will not make|pg||
nt|barnets: I kind of like pass|pg||
nt|barnets: but I can see the hands|pg||
mb|4D|nt|barnets: maybe 4@D is right|pg||
nt|henryb:  right when partner has a heart or two, very wrong when partner has a tiff heart and 5-5 in the minors|pg||
nt|barnets: the wrong player bid 4@D !!!!!|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s3|nt|barnets: Zia could have defended 4@S x in all likelihood or even 4@DX|pg||
nt|henryb:  the wrong player for Nickell's hopes to win. The right player for those who root for Monaco|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c5|nt|barnets: he wrong player for a close finish|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg||
nt|barnets: most want that regardless|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|h7|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|h4|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s5|pc|cQ|mc|6|pg||
qx|c60|st||md|2SQ2HA7D9864CA9753,ST73H95DAKT72CK64,SAK954HJ43DQJ53CJ,SJ86HKQT862DCQT82|sv|n|nt|joest: although some of those meanings change when you are a passed hand|pg||
nt|daman: all members of the team are residents of Monaco now|pg||
nt|joest: of course his 11 count is way better than Helness' was :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: this is not a good result from the open room|pg||
nt|ritong: ho hum|pg||
mb|1S|nt|casenjo:  Honestly folks, I couldn't do her job. |pg||
nt|ady: no game for e/w  assuming spade lead v 3NT|pg||
nt|kareno: ??|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and meckwell in semi AND final of gnt|pg||
mb|2H|nt|casenjo:  Please be kind|pg||
nt|joest: thanks for the onsite reporting though JOhn!|pg||
nt|kareno: Operator, please correct.|pg||
mb|d|mb|r|nt|casenjo:  yes, Jeff and I are one of the few smoking dinosaurs left|pg||
mb|3D|nt|joest: interesting that there was no 'support double' by Zimmerman showing 3 hearts. They probably play it as something else|pg||
nt|joest: opposite a support double Multon would already have bid 4@h by now|pg||
mb|p|nt|chthonic: ought to be a push -- down 2|pg||
nt|daman: yes|pg||
nt|ady: 5@C   1 down only|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  It's the WiFi at the Ryal York|pg||
nt|daman: they seldom play support doubles on the other side of the pond|pg||
nt|daman: Rusinow|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: FAntoni went low here where Hamman went high|pg||
nt|joest: but the rot set in when Zia got a 4@d lead director in as west and had to table hishand in 4@h|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i was about to say  set score only 17-3    then we see this hamman-zia result|pg||
pc|hK|nt|psyck: Rusinov leads promis the immediate higher honor|pg||
nt|chthonic: best unblock now|pg||
nt|joest: this one will take a while to play I bet|pg||
pc|hA|nt|daman: then what is the Jack?|pg||
nt|chthonic: ten?|pg||
pc|h5|nt|ritong: ?|pg||
nt|ritong: confirmed?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yes confirmed|pg||
nt|ritong: ah|pg||
nt|daman: nor Frannery|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|casenjo:  15-17 NT (took a view)|pg||
nt|ritong: wo-ow|pg||
nt|ady: can see 7 tricks|pg||
nt|joest: great opening lead even though Zia now apparently playing under an assumed name|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|nt|joest: the short hearts are on play so the singleton club is not getting led|pg||
pc|s4|nt|bigtrain: 3NT -1 on 59|pg||
nt|sybarra2: did we get this one right?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Is this contract correct?|pg||
nt|ritong: nikita says so|pg||
nt|sybarra2: this is rare fumble by this pair|pg||
nt|casenjo:  alerted|pg||
nt|ritong: absolutely astonishing|pg||
nt|ritong: makes more sense|pg||
nt|casenjo:  ah, that makes sense|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|casenjo:  This pair has over 200 pages of notes, when I asked Meckstroth if he knows it all, he said Eric does|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Jeff pled the 5th|pg||
nt|bigtrain: their SUMMARY is 200 pages|pg||
nt|casenjo:  That's why Isaid over 200!|pg||
nt|ritong: do they still have " MOST OF OUR BIDS ARE NATURAL" on the top of their CC, walter?|pg||
nt|joest: not that a club lead appeals that much with Jxxxof trumps anyway|pg||
nt|chthonic: no mishap|pg||
pc|s2|nt|roswolf: w3ll he doent have to most days:)|pg||
nt|joest: by rising king Hamman has now unfortunately for him blocked the spade suit|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
nt|peachy: Looks like the view led to problems this time|pg||
nt|casenjo:  wow, I'm getting jammed with comments on the 1NT opener|pg||
nt|casenjo:  14 prime HCP and a 5 card suit and protecting his Kings, is very reasonable|pg||
nt|bigtrain: KNR values the hand at 14.50 so it's in the ballpark for an upgrade|pg||
pc|sK|nt|casenjo:  I would probably stretch this to a 1NT opener also|pg||
nt|sybarra: if you open a club what is your rebid? |pg||
pc|sJ|pc|h7|pc|sT|pg||
nt|sybarra: that is the problem |pg||
nt|bigtrain: how about 1NT :)|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Yes, I like 1NT in all seats with this hand|pg||
nt|peachy: http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi for those who want to have a look at the K&R hand evaluator|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I think it is a litte too good for the 1NT rebid, and agree with Shirley|pg||
nt|gambit: this has no play, wish him luck |pg||
nt|bigtrain: it's not imo...  if the J were in any other suit i'd agree though|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Meckstroth's double of 2@D also seduced North in believing his singleton was big, knowing partner doesn't have much in Diamonds|pg||
nt|gambit: note how Rodwell did not lead a diamond....what does that say?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  we do have a possible swing board coming up, so stay tuned|pg||
nt|gambit: I throw it out there, I don't know and he WAS RIGHT....so I guess he knows what he is doing, funny thing that for a world class player|pg||
nt|joest: this seems more like it|pg||
pc|h4|nt|joest: n-s bidding without a lot of high cards|pg||
nt|ady: can get a 2nd diamond trick  but may lose too many tricks|pg||
nt|joest: declarer just does not have quite enough tricks I don't think|pg||
pc|h6|nt|casenjo:  Meckwell have been playing together since 1978...without any break in partnership....they get to know a lot about style.....more than husband and wife ;)|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dQ|nt|gambit: he made the best lead because he is a world class player, nothing more, nothing less, he is great|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|joest: I think Eric has two more coming and that's it|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|casenjo:  ok, I asked for this one, kibbitzers now asking if I played with 'Drewsky' Casen when we were married|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Not only did we play together, but it was ONLY time we NEVER fought|pg||
nt|gambit: neat play , though delaying the inevitable|pg||
nt|sybarra: I have operated for Meckwell agst various opps many times |pg||
nt|casenjo:  VERY TRUE!  If I played poorly, he only found kind things to say.  If I played well, he said nothing, which is often best.  When we finished very high in a Men's event (while married), I asked him, "Why are you such a wonderful partner and such |pg||
nt|sybarra: interesting dynamic,  calm, pleasant, intense, fun in many ways |pg||
nt|sybarra: difficult to describe|pg||
nt|casenjo:  a horrible partner?" His answer: "I'm a professional bridge player, not a professional husband"|pg||
nt|casenjo:  excuse me; it was horrible husband|pg||
nt|begse: 2 içeri belki 3|pg||
nt|begse: sry|pg||
nt|joest: Zia falsecarded at trick one but that would seem to make it more likely, rather than less likely, north has the club king|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|famus: hi--correct|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Great bridge player, great dad,great teacher, great golfer, backgammn player and poker player....lousy husband|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ady: Zia gets in with A@D   cash Q@S and play J@H nakes it clear|pg||
nt|ady: makes|pg||
pc|d3|nt|joest: so Zimmerman will give up an imp here but roll home|pg||
pc|h8|pc|d8|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Can't be perfect :)|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg||
nt|joest: so rodwell scores one more ruff in his hand|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|d5|pc|c8|pg||
mc|8|nt|Vugraphzfc: rodwell "they probably preempted at a much higher level at the other table"|pg||
pg||
qx|o61|st||md|3S64H8532DKT8654C3,SKQJ32HAQDQ973C76,ST987HJT64DAJ2CQ2,SA5HK97DCAKJT9854|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|barnets: time for 7@C|pg||
mb|1S|nt|henryb:  7 of either black suit|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|nt|barnets: that loks like an underbid |pg||
nt|barnets: if not forcing|pg||
nt|henryb:  I don't think 3@c does justice to that hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|barnets: is that nat or rKC anyone know ask eok|pg||
nt|henryb:  5N (odd KC and a useful void?|pg||
nt|barnets: the coach|pg||
nt|henryb:  What else can he bid?|pg||
nt|barnets: it could be quant|pg||
mb|7C|nt|barnets: ok we got there|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia chuckles|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb:  Could be, with 4@d RKC|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: 4N was natural, says Zia|pg||
nt|henryb:  good thing Zia has @hAQ and @dQ and not the other way around|pg||
pc|h3|nt|barnets: on 58 where north has slid clubs contract is 3N|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
nt|barnets: so we will see if Rodwell can find a ninth trick|pg||
pc|cK|mc|13|nt|barnets: game still on|pg||
pg||
qx|c61|st||md|3S64H8532DKT8654C3,SKQJ32HAQDQ973C76,ST987HJT64DAJ2CQ2,SA5HK97DCAKJT9854|sv|b|nt|gambit: here comes an interesting hand................Cayne by 31|pg||
nt|bigtrain: this should be interesting|pg||
nt|ritong: other room on board 64  we will have direct comparisons all along|pg||
nt|joest: they are on the final board in the open room|pg||
nt|daman: with AQJ10x    I would always lead the Q|pg||
nt|kareno: Right he is.|pg||
nt|joest: Hamman opened 1@c rebid 3@c and then when Zia Blackwooded just bid 7@c :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|aitch99: it was quite conservative of Rodwell to pass the 1NT|pg||
nt|daman: Fantoni led the Q|pg||
mb|1C|nt|bigtrain: might even be totally constructive|pg||
nt|ady: nice fir n/s|pg||
nt|joest: here is an intersting hand|pg||
mb|1D|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any shape|pg||
nt|joest: not clear that the Nickell east-west pair collected enough against 1@h doubled|pg||
nt|joest: we will see|pg||
nt|daman: strange result here|pg||
nt|daman: i like 3 NT|pg||
nt|joest: at the other table Helgemo doubled 1@c which led to the contract of 1@h doubled|pg||
nt|ady: fit|pg||
nt|granguru:  7@C|pg||
mb|1H!|an|!S|nt|joest: not clear where north-south should wind up although if I had to guess, I'd say 3NT|pg||
mb|2D|nt|bigtrain: 1@S = 5+@H GF|pg||
mb|3C|nt|joest: in the other room Ralph Katz had to decide whether to sit 1@h doubled.|pg||
nt|ady: wonder if e/w may make a phantom|pg||
nt|psyck: not now|pg||
nt|chthonic: And now EW must show their defensive technique for a push.|pg||
nt|ady: top club lead   east can give suit preference|pg||
nt|joest: which is not such a hot spot either|pg||
nt|ady: where will this end?|pg||
nt|roswolf: looks possible|pg||
nt|joest: Zia may stall with 2@h|pg||
nt|roswolf: bidding to 3nt|pg||
nt|joest: he is too big for 3@d|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1NT is control asking|pg||
nt|aitch99: whoops i think this is wrong|pg||
nt|psyck: a normal suit preferance on @c lead will make it easy|pg||
nt|Walddk4: 4NT was quant, not RKC|pg||
nt|joest: I understand 4NT was quantitative|pg||
mb|3D|nt|daman: whack|pg||
nt|ady: did take the sacrifice|pg||
nt|chthonic: Get Lizzie Borden, quick|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  Let's focus on this hand people|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 3 controls (A = 2 K = 1)|pg||
nt|ritong: heavy @d guess|pg||
nt|casenjo:  another partial battle|pg||
nt|joest: Having a double argues in favor of it.  Having an unmentioned KQ109xx suit argues against it|pg||
nt|joest: having a doubleton heart I mean|pg||
nt|chorush: Many pairs have the agreement that an immediate 4S by South shows the worst hand, which he certainly has, so we may be waiting while zimmerman decides about 5 clubs|pg||
nt|joest: Hamman bought well at that|pg||
nt|kareno: I'll say!!  |pg||
nt|joest: he doesn't want to give his partner any idea that spades might be trump|pg||
nt|kareno: For the record, I believe that the Nickell team gets its placement points for the Trials irrespective of outcome.  Anyone know for sure?|pg||
nt|joest: 1@h was spades btw|pg||
nt|ahollan1: John -- do you know if 1@H establishes game force?|pg||
nt|joest: good question.  Fantoni has a VERY solid 3@c call|pg||
nt|kareno: I'm told no.  That used to be the case but apparently not now.|pg||
mb|5D|nt|joest: exclusion blackwood for clubs is my guess|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: ty big train for system notes, that really helps us all |pg||
nt|sybarra: Walter how does he show the club void?|pg||
nt|casenjo:  bigtrain will walk you through theauction|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Getting to 7 would be a swing for Nickells|pg||
nt|bigtrain: probably not until the keycard level|pg||
nt|gambit: will Versace venture in with 4@C?|pg||
mb|5S|nt|daman: here is the vugraph schedule for future session    please bookmark it    http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
nt|ady: great pickup for Nickell|pg||
nt|daman: this could tie the match|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: if meck had a fit it would be shown as a part of a relay response|pg||
nt|ritong: bingo|pg||
nt|psyck: match will remain close at the end of 1st set, like it was at the end of 1st, not good for Nickell who prefer to trail at the half :)|pg||
nt|ady: all square now|pg||
nt|psyck: *2nd set|pg||
nt|chthonic: Yes, need to be behind 30 or more|pg||
mb|5N|nt|bigtrain: XX is penalty|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: hoping for a couple of clubs with partner :)|pg||
nt|joest: my personal take is that Ralph took a pretty deep position|pg||
nt|joest: of course that doesn't tell him anything about the king of spades|pg||
mb|7C|nt|chorush: Seems certain to. 9 tricks for EW seems predestined|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: bet that is a splinter|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 5@C is exclusion RKC|pg||
nt|joest: now this is Zia backing his judgment about a hopeless misfit|pg||
nt|joest: right down to bidding 2NT to give his partner more room to bid out his shape|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: look at Rodwell's hand, and his partner has opened a forcing club, and shown a balnced NT, he is salivating|pg||
nt|sybarra: ok exc |pg||
nt|sybarra: sorry |pg||
nt|bigtrain: 5@D = 3|pg||
nt|sybarra: exc or voidwood |pg||
nt|joest: great recovery!|pg||
nt|chorush: I would guess that 5NT was a grand slam invitation confirming all keys|pg||
nt|joest: when partner keeps it alive with 5NT, Nunes knows he has what partner needs|pg||
pc|d4|nt|psyck: yes, they need that for inspired finish|pg||
nt|joest: oh sorry.  I thought he passed! :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: zia trying to bash the heads of the norsemen with their own tactics|pg||
pc|d9|nt|ady: can set up the diamonds   but cant reach them|pg||
pc|dA|nt|bigtrain: 5@H = queen ask|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 5N Q with no kings|pg||
nt|gambit: behind in the match....the grand has to be on the table|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I would think Rodwell will bid this one........but what do I know?|pg||
nt|joest: anyway Zimmerman looks like they will pick up about 10 imps or so|pg||
pc|cA|nt|daman: yes and yes|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: time clock has withered away with break and recent very slow play|pg||
pc|c3|mc|13|nt|joest: is today the day I find Kx onside? :)|pg||
nt|ady: will try clubs|pg||
nt|granguru:  1@h is @s suit |pg||
pg||
qx|o62|st||md|4S852H32DAQ7642CA7,SQHQJT8DK9CKJT654,ST76HAK74DJT3C832,SAKJ943H965D85CQ9|sv|o|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|nt|henryb:  Fantunes will also open 2@s, but it will mean something else. |pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|s2|nt|henryb:  Hamman is at the top of his range, they will be at the bottom|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|henryb:  I did not know which of them was in which seat|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|c5|pc|dT|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sA|mc|8|pg||
qx|c62|st||md|4S852H32DAQ7642CA7,SQHQJT8DK9CKJT654,ST76HAK74DJT3C832,SAKJ943H965D85CQ9|sv|o|nt|joest: so what would you do as dealer George|pg||
nt|chorush: This board looks very flat|pg||
nt|psyck: kibz can sleep through this one as ewell|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
nt|granguru:  5@d is exclusion or voidwood |pg||
mb|2S|nt|daman: bid some @Ds'|pg||
mb|3D|nt|casenjo:  down to an 18 imp difference in 2 boards! 19 to go|pg||
nt|daman: you?|pg||
nt|joest: 2@s = 5+spades 10-13|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: well I guess how many was the question :)|pg||
nt|joest: 1@d most days|pg||
nt|ady: this should be flat   and hopefully quicker|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: 1@D seems right|pg||
nt|joest: it certainly seems normal, which has a lot going for it!|pg||
nt|daman: now we''l see what happens|pg||
nt|joest: I doubt Mr. Hamman expects a lot of cooperation from Zia|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: neg...|pg||
nt|joest: I could see him driving this to slam by himself frankly|pg||
nt|joest: a trifle light, particularly opposite apassed hand that purportedly opens 'all elevens' :)|pg||
nt|granguru:  5NT ask for extras|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not 4+@H, 6@S or unbal|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|bigtrain: yes...  a best he could do negative X :)|pg||
nt|joest: it's a big bid but not out of the realm|pg||
nt|daman: 6 is down on @D and another @D    yes?|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ady: agressive 1NT  opposite passed partner who normally opens with 11|pg||
pc|h6|nt|daman: 6@H looks to be gin|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|casenjo:  2@H = 5+ hearts and 4+ minor|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|gambit: pity the penalty double has been lost here, see last night Zia's last board if you don't believe me|pg||
nt|daman: in 6@H    low @D to King and a @S ruff|pg||
nt|chthonic: Yes, should be uneventful push board 420|pg||
pc|d5|nt|daman: let's see if they even get there|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|granguru:  sorry for been behind some minutes...was temporarily gagged|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ady: sorry Jack  my typing slower|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|daman: just a lazy Sunday afternoon     4400 kibitzers     |pg||
nt|daman: and they all have an opinion|pg||
pc|sA|nt|bigtrain: looks like scrambling 8 tricks here|pg||
nt|joest: i think it's cold George as long as he takes a first round spade hook|pg||
pc|s5|nt|daman: he was always finessing the @S|pg||
pc|c4|pc|s7|pg||
nt|joest: takes the tap crosses to the heart queen picks up the trumps returns to his hand with a heart ruff, etc.|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s8|nt|joest: on the hand where Zia down in 3@s Meckwell landed in 4@h and are on the way to make it for a swing|pg||
pc|c5|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d9|nt|daman: nice|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d3|nt|casenjo:  Dave Dressman correctly pointed out that Rodwell knowsSOuth is marked with length in spades on the auction|pg||
pc|s9|pc|dA|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|joest: now this hand is in Zia's wheelhouse. He lives for these|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|casenjo:  he doesn't need to test spades immediately|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h4|nt|joest: ?|pg||
nt|daman: huh?|pg||
nt|daman: undo|pg||
nt|joest: he led the spade ace first operator|pg||
nt|joest: i'm sure|pg||
nt|kareno: Futile squeeze hope here.|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|d7|pc|cK|pc|h7|mc|8|nt|daman: uncle|pg||
nt|joest: super result|pg||
nt|daman: 11 IMPs|pg||
pg||
qx|o63|st||md|1S63HQ8542DQ4CKQJ4,ST5HKT63DK8532C63,SKQ7HJ7DJT7CAT752,SAJ9842HA9DA96C98|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|henryb:  1N surely|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: sry|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cJ|nt|barnets: no problem joe|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|henryb:  np|pg||
pc|c4|pc|d2|pc|cA|nt|barnets: well we know slam coming|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|cQ|pc|d5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s9|pc|h4|pc|d3|pc|c5|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h6|pc|cT|pc|s8|pc|h8|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c63|st||md|1S63HQ8542DQ4CKQJ4,ST5HKT63DK8532C63,SKQ7HJ7DJT7CAT752,SAJ9842HA9DA96C98|sv|n|nt|psyck: time to wake up, this could well be a swing|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: thin 3NT  OR|pg||
nt|granguru:  31-5 this round |pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|daman: vugraph schedule    http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
nt|joest: Team Monaco has played lights out|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ritong: please check the board number|pg||
nt|joest: George or John do you know when the second set begins?|pg||
mb|d|nt|gambit: as one commentator said, when we all thought he was going for his life - live by the sword, die by the sword|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 5+@D GF|pg||
nt|casenjo:  another big club auction|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT is waiting|pg||
nt|ritong: looks ok|pg||
nt|ritong: they apparently skipped the 62|pg||
nt|ritong: momentarily|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 3@H is both minors|pg||
nt|daman: this is now the penultimate hand of this session|pg||
nt|joest: Zia does not belong to the school where you respond on anything.  Good thing too|pg||
nt|daman: begins in 17 minutes   lol|pg||
mb|1N|nt|granguru:  this is the forelast hand|pg||
mb|2S|nt|bigtrain: 62 a push looks like|pg||
nt|ritong: maybe they took 63 before 62|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: no one skipped anything the bbo server continues to freeze and forces me to restart everything|pg||
nt|joest: I just have to say that imho Zia was brilliant on that last hand|pg||
nt|joest: he catered to the layout that existed and it paid off|pg||
nt|daman: the next session is supposed to begin in 16 minutes|pg||
nt|psyck: a bigger swing if it makes|pg||
nt|kareno: They surely have.  They will be a real factor in world championships very soon.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: it s ok  relax nikita|pg||
nt|chthonic: I don't get dealt AK and not lead that suit.|pg||
nt|chorush: with that lead it may wellmake|pg||
nt|psyck: well, it it does, he can be happy the lead only cost 3 imps|pg||
nt|ady: this hand going to be bad for Nickell and may get worse|pg||
nt|ady: where Zia went down in 3@S  Meck opened the 11 that Helness passed|pg||
pc|cK|nt|casenjo:  now Meckstroth has found the club fit!|pg||
nt|casenjo:  pretty auction|pg||
nt|gambit: low spade lead from S will scuttle any slam......|pg||
nt|casenjo:  south isn't on lead|pg||
nt|gambit: sad but rrue|pg||
pc|c3|nt|gambit: SAD BUT TRUE|pg||
nt|gambit: nice to see V have the chance for glory |pg||
nt|chthonic: I can protect against their setting up hearts with my length. |pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pg||
nt|bigtrain: making 140 on this one is huge|pg||
nt|bigtrain: doesn't look like it can be made|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sQ|nt|daman: we have been told the next session will start 20 minutes after this table has finished|pg||
nt|joest: another pick up for Nickell provided Hamman can go plus |pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|chthonic: Regardless, 3NT making NS inthe other room will lead to a significant gain for Monaco|pg||
nt|ady: down 1 in spite of the lead|pg||
nt|chthonic: Nunes opened the south hand with 2H|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sT|nt|joest: if Helness duckes there and Hamman hooks again...|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|casenjo:  no spade guess here|pg||
nt|casenjo:  diamonds split 4-3 and a ruff in dummy for 12|pg||
pc|c7|nt|psyck: 10-13 5 card @h for Nunes maybe|pg||
nt|joest: but I don't think Hamman would hook again|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|nt|joest: defenders got their tap suit going in time|pg||
nt|psyck: with adjustments for shape|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|aitch99: in danger of going off|pg||
nt|chthonic: 11 IMPs |pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d2|pc|c5|nt|joest: Hamman now developshis @d trick|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|casenjo:  if they pick up 22 next quarter............|pg||
nt|joest: no red suit squeeze exists so +140|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|casenjo:  Nickell has picked up 22 this quarter|pg||
pc|h2|nt|bigtrain: did that really happen?|pg||
pc|h3|nt|joest: this table is a full four boards ahead of their counterparts|pg||
nt|ady: they have played quickly|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes very commendable|pg||
nt|joest: so if spdes 3-2 and club jack doesn't drop Hamman needs toruff a club now|pg||
nt|joest: if spades 4-1 and club jack does drop he needs to pull trumps now|pg||
nt|ady: would be against the odds|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|s9|nt|daman: doesn't look good|pg||
nt|joest: so now Hamman will be tapped out while East has an entry|pg||
pc|c4|nt|daman: wow|pg||
nt|joest: so here comes the last hand of the set|pg||
pc|d3|nt|joest: yes if spades 3-2 he can draw trumps ending in dummy and get clubs away on the hearts|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|hT|mc|9|pg||
qx|o64|st||md|2SQ72HJT4DT83CT873,SAJT83H73DA4CA942,SK4H85DJ975CKQJ65,S965HAKQ962DKQ62C|sv|e|nt|barnets: another slam|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|barnets: Rodwell went down in 3n on 58 5 to Monaco|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|nt|barnets: 34 the margin|pg||
nt|henryb:  The Soprano is warming up|pg||
nt|henryb:  running her scales|pg||
nt|barnets: again an excellent def from fantoni and nunes|pg||
nt|henryb:  The reference is to the lead singer at the opera, not to Kate Smith|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: thanks to all the great commentators and to the specs -- we will keep this room open until the other table finishes|pg||
nt|henryb:  and she was often fat|pg||
mb|6S|mb|p|nt|barnets: zia knows he is off one key card|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|barnets: well done not bther about the trump q at this stage of match|pg||
nt|henryb:  no, the players do not know the score, although one can often estimate pretty well|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Zia:  how many aces did you show?  Hamman:  I showed the wrong number  Zia: I hope you have some|pg||
pc|s5|nt|barnets: so nickell has a decent run in from this run|pg||
nt|barnets: room|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c2|pg||
pc|s6|nt|barnets: but not likely to be enough|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
mc|12|nt|henryb:  they had two seriously bad boards: 49 and 60|pg||
nt|barnets: thanks all our operator Joe , all commentators ACBL and to BBO|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: thanlks|pg||
nt|barnets: 60 i forgot disaster|pg||
nt|henryb:  This was a fairly low scoring match: we usually expect about 4 and a quarter imps per board, or some 270 over 64 boards|pg||
nt|barnets: On 60 playing 3@D n/s|pg||
nt|barnets: that will put the match out of reach|pg||
nt|henryb:  so that will be 12 or 14 to Monaco|pg||
nt|barnets: congrats to Monaco|pg||
nt|barnets: they played a fine match|pg||
nt|henryb:  For those who are curious, Gordon-Pratap and company won the Swiss|pg||
nt|barnets: 2 national Ko  championships for Zimmerman|pg||
nt|henryb:  final standings posed on Bridgewinners already|pg||
nt|henryb:  good night all|pg||
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qx|c64|st||md|2SQ72HJT4DT83CT873,SAJT83H73DA4CA942,SK4H85DJ975CKQJ65,S965HAKQ962DKQ62C|sv|e|nt|ritong: take it easy, operator just claim 920|pg||
nt|casenjo:  they will once again be the 'come from behind guys'|pg||
nt|ritong: ok|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Jack of @D lead, followed by a spade shift|pg||
nt|joest: my suspicion is that we will see 4@s here as well|pg||
nt|daman: can they stay out of game?|pg||
nt|joest: congratulations to Team Monaco for winning  in what was really a star studded field|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2+@D 10-15|pg||
mb|2C|nt|joest: At the other table 1@c was the chosen opening bid which may have helped influenced south to just bid a gamewhen he got raised|pg||
nt|kareno: It is indeed a great win.|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: tough call for Helgemo.  3NT might sound like 18|pg||
mb|2S|nt|bigtrain: X can be 5@H with GF values|pg||
nt|chorush: Multon passed where Meckstroth doubld|pg||
nt|ady: some would open west hand   maybe cant  in their system|pg||
nt|joest: 2@s is a compromise that sounds maybe like a fifth club but not so clear in this auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: likely to end in 3NT|pg||
nt|roswolf: i expected that|pg||
nt|joest: Helness has a pretty good hand|pg||
nt|granguru:  2@C ask 5 card major|pg||
mb|3H|nt|joest: interesting  he suppresses his spades to play for penalties (I presume)|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  last board of a truly excitging match|pg||
nt|roswolf: and iws bidding it|pg||
nt|joest: the fourth and final NT! :)|pg||
nt|ady: even white against red  not wild about heart overcall|pg||
mb|4C|nt|bigtrain: but here it's "normal"|pg||
nt|daman: would you have bid 1@S Joe?|pg||
nt|joest: Yes I would.  I admit it|pg||
nt|daman: Jack   sorry|pg||
nt|joest: but pass is certainly more exciting|pg||
nt|psyck: Last deal, thanks all, next set in a couple of hours.|pg||
mb|d|nt|joest: this is the second time this set that the Nickell team has 'taken a view' by defending 1@h doubled|pg||
nt|roswolf: firm;y does it|pg||
nt|joest: but actually the heart overcall helped create some of this ambiguity|pg||
nt|roswolf: f[rmly|pg||
mb|r|nt|bigtrain: something happened to board 61 result...  thats why score changed|pg||
nt|pfbr: ty commentators :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: start 6 eastern|pg||
nt|pfbr: and ty operator :) |pg||
nt|ady: this not exactly a favourate to make|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|nt|joest: it didnt work last time|pg||
nt|ady: thx all |pg||
nt|joest: Hamman knew not to lead a heart|pg||
nt|ady: own suit so bad    tried something a bit desparate|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes|pg||
nt|joest: in fairness he has a very difficult lead problem|pg||
nt|ady: yes   agree|pg||
nt|joest: if each of you tell me you would unerringly lead the @d 10 i believe you|pg||
nt|roswolf: geir has a very difficult declarer problem|pg||
nt|joest: once again, many thanks to our tireless operator John Schwartz|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  more or less the same auction at the other table|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Please return for an exciting 4th quarter!!!|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Wow, slow down guys, too many questions!|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Board 61 is now correct as Henri says|pg||
nt|bigtrain: it looks like things are a bit messed up so we'll have to wait for comparasions to see who wins|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: will not take long|pg||
nt|casenjo:  And yes Meckstroth made 2@H, shortens his trump length to the same as North and throws him in to pick up the trump suit|pg||
nt|joest: John and Karen thanks|pg||
nt|kareno: <applause> ... that is such a hard job!|pg||
nt|kareno: And to you, Jack :)|pg||
nt|joest: yes he might not be 'tireless' at this point|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|joest: I would tell you what the bids meant if only I knew :)|pg||
mb|4S|nt|casenjo:  Thanks to Cam, Walter and all my co-commentators|pg||
nt|kareno: Don't give up your seats, specs!!  |pg||
nt|kareno: I've no idea.  But some do play that 3@h is a spade raise.|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Nickell has to make this to obtain a push|pg||
nt|ady: good start|pg||
mb|6H|nt|chthonic: Interesting play -- worked well.|pg||
nt|chthonic: True.... |pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: spade best|pg||
nt|ady: while he has diamonds held|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: i think this score is correct...  but once again unofficial|pg||
nt|daman: whew|pg||
nt|Walddk4: We will continue with voice commentary from the open room in the second segment. Larry Cohen and I will be back for that. Remember to use the web version if you want voice ...|pg||
nt|Walddk4: commentary|pg||
nt|Walddk4: www.bridgebase.com  Play Bridge Now   log in and click on Vugraph, open room|pg||
nt|joest: while we have a sec, thanks to our operator John|pg||
nt|joest: good job|pg||
nt|daman: they shd get 7 tricks on D    no?|pg||
nt|joest: Multon may be off a card playing Hamman for 4=1=4=4 or 4=0=4=5|pg||
nt|joest: it looks to me like Zia's shot will pay off here|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  breakk should be about 15-20 minutes|pg||
pc|c7|nt|kareno: I think all roads lead to two spade finesses here.|pg||
nt|joest: well you could pitch a spade on the club ace and try for a diamond ruff|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|nt|pfbr: i so hope so :)|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, that's possible - diamond ruff.  But I think spades are more promising.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|nt|ady: nasty hand to play|pg||
pc|h3|nt|casenjo:  Thanks alot to the one with the toughest job...our vugraph operator|pg||
nt|gambit: thy to our VuG operator Dan, and the specs....see you for the final segment?|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|casenjo:  For those that have been asking for Vugraph room to be kept open: we do not control that|pg||
nt|bigtrain: ;http://www.bridgewinners.com/  for final results|pg||
nt|ritong: but nikita does|pg||
nt|casenjo:  But you can look at BBO's vugraph history tomorrow and see it all|pg||
nt|bigtrain: http://www.bridgewinners.com/ |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: thanks everyone for your patience!|pg||
nt|daman: this is not good|pg||
nt|joest: even though Zia must put declarer in dummy, the two pitches do not help him|pg||
nt|joest: he may just take the ruff in hishand to be honest|pg||
nt|joest: but all roads lead to success|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hT|nt|casenjo:  I could NEVER do vugraph operator job, tough one|pg||
nt|peachy: Thanks all :)|pg||
nt|ritong: no problem at all|pg||
nt|ady: no quick entry for diamonds|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|pg||
nt|ritong: technical issues are frequent|pg||
nt|casenjo:  go to Vugraph Archive and look at Spingold Semi FInal Cayne/Nickell 4th quarter|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Nikita, you were awesome|pg||
nt|joest: yes I think spades is %|pg||
nt|joest: what's more: so does Fantoni|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|nt|ady: seems 7 tricks|pg||
pc|s3|nt|joest: can also try ruffing out spades|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|s5|nt|joest: now Zia just takes a minor suit ruff and waits for his 2 naturals|pg||
nt|joest: it may be incumbent upon Hamman soon to unblock the spade jack|pg||
nt|kareno: IMO the double finesse is stronger.  We will see.|pg||
pc|s2|nt|casenjo:  It is so tough to lose connections and get back online, especially since the players do not wait for you! @H|pg||
nt|chorush: can make on endplay|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|casenjo:  Thanks again to Henri and Walter for great commentary|pg||
nt|ritong: so please let us know as soon as possible|pg||
nt|fifee: quite a match|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|bigtrain: this could go late into the night as there may be an appeal for 4 IMPs|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: have a good night from Toronto thanks all for tuning in !!|pg||
nt|ritong: ow|pg||
nt|casenjo:  If you want to see previous quarters, they will be on Vugraph Archive also|pg||
nt|joest: 6 to Nickell who will trail by 4 at the quartr|pg||
nt|joest: quarter|pg||
nt|roswolf: like now|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|kareno: It's very late here - all I can do is express my opinion.  I'm no computer :)|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|chorush: diamond ace and club to 9|pg||
pc|s6|pc|c3|nt|joest: thanks George|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|joest: and thanks toall the kibitzers!  |pg||
nt|daman: see you next session|pg||
nt|daman: thanks Jack|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: back in 15 minutes or so|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s8|nt|ady: can make    will he?|pg||
nt|ady: no|pg||
nt|joest: here we go|pg||
nt|joest: even if they didn't ruff out you have a spade diamond squeeze possibility|pg||
mc|12|nt|joest: well done|pg||
nt|joest: good night all|pg||
nt|joest: thanks to the kibs as well and congrats to TEam Monaco|pg||
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