vg|2011 SPINGOLD A QF,Segment 3 of 4,I,33,48,Denmark,60,Monaco,53|
rs|3NE=,3NW+1,1NE+2,3NE+1,3NE-4,1NN=,4SW+2,4SW+1,6SSx-1,6HEx-3,3NW-3,4SE-2,2SN+1,2SS+2,4SW+1,4SE=,4HW+2,6HW=,3NE=,3NW+1,2NS=,3NS=,4SEx-2,4DN=,6CE=,5CE=,2HN-2,2SW-1,1NW-3,1NW-1,4SE=,|
pn|Schaltz,Helgemo,Madsen,Helness,NUNES,ASKGAARD,FANTONI,BJARNARSON|pg||
qx|o33|st||md|3SAQ54HQ52D5CT8542,S7HAT974DKQT7CK96,ST92HK86DJ862CQJ7,SKJ863HJ3DA943CA3|sv|o|nt|chick: Hello everyone :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Same line-up as the previous set.|pg||
mb|p|nt|puncher99: welcome back folks|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|santyclz: Hi folks.|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: Hi all.  same lineup in this room as the second quarter.|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: Hello everybody, final set of the Wagar Womens KO Teams from Toronto|pg||
nt|sybarra: welcome Raija  and Glenn |pg||
nt|peachy: Hi Glenn|pg||
nt|puncher99: HI all|pg||
pc|c5|nt|fabsayc: and we expect the margin of victory to be under 10 imps|pg||
nt|peachy: For those interested, history of this event http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagar_Women%27s_Knockout_Teams|pg||
nt|puncher99: 9th trick is going to be hard to get here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: it will fall from the sky in diamonds|pg||
pc|c6|nt|sybarra: a few imps to make up for Hampton but no panic|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|Vugraphzfe: Hi Shirley.|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|sybarra: Ross :) |pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|gambit: Welcome all to the quarter-final of the Spingold, nail-biting final session |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Welland is deep into the tank.  He is a 'fast' player, so him taking this time is not|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: usual.|pg||
nt|gambit: 6@D is a good spot, and with KD onside, a great one |pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|fabsayc: actually 10 tricks on layout should be par|pg||
nt|peachy:  Click http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  OR  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/   to watch more than one vugraph table (without logging in)|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h3|nt|vugraphpl3: witam wszystkich. to ju¿ ostatnia sesja siódmego kongresowego turnieju w S³awie :)|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|peachy: NS def signals UDCA and Smith|pg||
nt|sybarra: xyz :) |pg||
nt|sybarra: sorry not a comment on the bidding |pg||
nt|puncher99: needs to play hearts now|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sJ|nt|sybarra: welcome Tarek |pg||
pc|sQ|nt|tarekr:  Hello to evryone! Welcome!|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|c8|nt|puncher99: must play ace|pg||
nt|puncher99: spade there was the coup de gras|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg||
nt|sybarra: she knows the @D q not dropping |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Lost the play here, people.  Sorry. :(|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|s3|pc|h5|pg||
nt|vugraphpl3: running scores : http://www.kongres-slawa.pl/2011/k7.html|pg||
pc|h4|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d4|mc|9|pg||
qx|c33|st||md|3SAQ54HQ52D5CT8542,S7HAT974DKQT7CK96,ST92HK86DJ862CQJ7,SKJ863HJ3DA943CA3|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfc: here we go|pg||
nt|chick: Hello Everyone :)|pg||
nt|psyck: Hello everyone|pg||
nt|kareno: Good day from Las Vegas :)|pg||
nt|chick: Welcome everyone :)|pg||
nt|psyck: Hello everyone|pg||
nt|bridge_one: Hello from Italy :)|pg||
nt|psyck: "Sementa"|pg||
nt|bridge_one: Yes, the name is Antonio Sementa|pg||
nt|bridge_one: E/W play a system very similar at Lauria-Versace|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: thanks Joe, we will remember that and 1 IMP could make a difference|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|psyck: The strong @c system may not work too well here allowing opps to possibly find a @d sacrifice|pg||
nt|kareno: I had the pleasure of losing to Versace and Lauria in a KO match earlier this week :)|pg||
nt|sybarra: hello all   and welcome back to Toronto |pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|psyck: N will be happy to hear 2@s by S|pg||
nt|kareno: The next KO fortunately we won so I can still show my face around here.  It was this exact team that defeated us.|pg||
nt|kareno: Did I say hello from Vegas?  I'm still in Toronto watching baseball games :)|pg||
nt|psyck: South has maximum for the earlier pass, no wastage in opps suit, & shape|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i hate the first pass... clearly worth a double|pg||
nt|bigtrain: now impossible to catch up|pg||
nt|psyck: yes, assuming double was 5-7, it was certainly possible on 2@d|pg||
nt|kareno: I agree - now she hasn't got a good bid but 2@s will do.|pg||
nt|psyck: double or 2@H?|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: depending on agreement|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|duschek: Hellp|pg||
mb|p|nt|duschek: Hello :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: Quinn:  you better play the spots off of this one|pg||
nt|rv: technically West invites and East accepts with max|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: giving a medium hand|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|chick: staggering their way to the right place|pg||
nt|xenya: double possible as S's hand is limited by his 1st bid|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Askgaard - Bjarnarson East-West against  Fantoni-Nunes|pg||
nt|sybarra: welcome |pg||
nt|sybarra: what a table!! |pg||
nt|duschek: A bit of explanation needed. West's 2@D showed 5+@H and less than game-forcing strength - EW open almost all hands containing 10+ HCP and a 5cM|pg||
pc|cA|nt|kareno: West never showed his diamond fit - |pg||
nt|ady: 1 imp to Cayne|pg||
nt|psyck: I guess W felt he had too much in def to bid more|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pg||
nt|bridge_one: Ho Vladimir :)|pg||
nt|xenya: hi Giorgio :)|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|rv: this could make if declarer takes a @h hook, plays for @hs 3-3 and @CA rite|pg||
nt|xenya: NS play Polish Club|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 3@D is safe contract|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|tarekr:  Exactly but Shawn is not taking any chances to miss game even though it is a non-vul one|pg||
nt|ady: meantime 5@D  only down 1|pg||
nt|xenya: where all strong hands are opened 1@C|pg||
nt|duschek: The rest was natural - Askgaard accepted the invitation, having promised 10-15 HCP initially|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
nt|duschek: Those heart intermediates in dummy are quite handy for East|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|psyck: the 2@d could be a wide ranging hand too i guess|pg||
nt|kareno: I would hope south would take the push to 5@s.|pg||
pc|d2|nt|duschek: Sorry, with East being Bjarnarson, he was obviously the one accepting the invitation to game|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pg||
nt|psyck: yes, @d more comfortable to play than @s's here I guess|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|nt|rv: Mildred is well on way to 9 tricks here if she plays a @c to K|pg||
nt|xenya: also many weak ones|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s4|pg||
nt|duschek: (and after a bit of warming up I will also be able to tell who is declarer...)|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d7|nt|bridge_one: probably make 10 tricks because must cuess A second in @C|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|nt|rv: playing a @d off table also works as cards are|pg||
nt|tarekr:  nice @d|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
nt|psyck: good, & we have Giorgio to help us out with EW's system which he says is similar to Lauria-Versace|pg||
pc|s2|nt|sybarra: his table will not be for the faint of heart or your grandmothers bridge club |pg||
nt|duschek: Anyway, with hearts breaking nicely, no problem for West, who will pick up an overtrick imp|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c7|nt|bridge_one: play exatly the same Krisma :)|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|rv: not sure if this is best line though, I would have played a @c to K after cashing @hs in hand|pg||
pc|h9|nt|tarekr:  well done!|pg||
pc|h8|pc|s3|pc|h5|pg||
nt|psyck: nice, makes for a well knit team|pg||
pc|h7|mc|10|pg||
qx|o34|st||md|4S96H952DK963CK953,SA8432HJDQT7CAT64,SKJTHA8764DJ82C82,SQ75HKQT3DA54CQJ7|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfe: Ok  Now we are live. :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not quite the way i envisioned it|pg||
nt|peachy: just 1 IMP in, could have been a game swing|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|peachy: or out, depends on one's view :)|pg||
nt|puncher99: friendly lie of cards for NS if they can  get to the heart suit|pg||
nt|peachy: EW play strong club and weak NT |pg||
nt|peachy: Welcome back to this Quarterfinal match from Spingold|pg||
nt|ybob: Hi all|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|santyclz: Nice @s "low".|pg||
nt|fabsayc: redouble is supposed to show a five card minor|pg||
nt|fabsayc: here it may help NS find hearts|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Extended notes between South and West....|pg||
nt|peachy: Hi|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Greetings to all.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: we may play it here|pg||
mb|p|pc|d3|nt|puncher99: tough to find hearts now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: was it really west who bid 2@H??|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|peachy: Is this real|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Yes it was.|pg||
nt|peachy: Thank you operator/Ross|pg||
pc|d8|nt|chick: NS have more points than EW, about time they stuck their nose in|pg||
nt|ybob: 2down in 2@S|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|santyclz: Brave balance on that suit.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h3|nt|fabsayc: there will be a director at this table soon|pg||
nt|rodal f: Sr for interrupting once. Sport by high level.|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|c4|nt|santyclz: 3@c?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: That's the bid.|pg||
pc|c2|nt|Vugraphzfe: I don't know what the 2@h means, but there was a lengthy conversation between|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Westheimer and von Arnim at the time.|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|santyclz: Seems more likely n would bid that...|pg||
nt|chick: a hand to pass out :)|pg||
nt|peachy: West had enough, understandably.  She knows NS on shaky ground, doesnt need much math to figure that|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|d6|nt|vugraphzfe: This should be a fairly quick table.|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dJ|nt|sybarra: mnight need the spade shift whoon |pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|d2|nt|vugraphzfe: At least, so far it has been.|pg||
nt|peachy: Bramley Welland def is UDCA, o/e first discard only|pg||
nt|ybob: after KQ@S + A@D on N, S has A@C and KQ @H|pg||
nt|ybob: clear to declarer ...|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zia is taking his time on this.|pg||
pc|dA|nt|fabsayc: now spade nine|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not at all obvious of course, but you need a miracle|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d7|pg||
nt|tarekr:  this does not look like fun for EW|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|s2|pc|h4|pg||
nt|peachy: now has to avoid 2 club losers|pg||
nt|peachy: doable but does he have info on where ace is?|pg||
nt|ybob: he plays 3 rounds @D and home after N shows only 3@D|pg||
nt|ybob: later ruff @S ruff next @D with 8@C and win|pg||
nt|ybob: because J@C on N|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Welcome to John Stewart|pg||
nt|stewball: hi everyone|pg||
nt|ybob: hi|pg||
nt|peachy: Hi John|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zia pulls out  a card then folds his hand.|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h9|nt|peachy: Would declarer have stranded spades on purpose if she had two of them?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Perhaps she is depending on Qx of @hs in one hand.|pg||
pc|s3|nt|puncher99: she must b|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well auken played 10 first round, causing the confusion|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Had to double check that trick :)|pg||
nt|stewball: elegant but doomed|pg||
nt|stewball: zia is long on elegance|pg||
nt|ybob: declarer need 3/3 @C so N showed 5@S 2@H what wrong with play QJ@D and another @D ?|pg||
nt|stewball: its not clear what this line catered to ,other than elegance|pg||
pc|s5|nt|peachy: since they missed the heart fit, it really does not matter what happens on this hand|pg||
nt|stewball: well at least theres not as much at stake given the OR result|pg||
nt|stewball: i have a feeling Hamman doesnt think this hand is worth 20 minutes of his life|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|nt|Vugraphzfe: One miracle down how many to come?|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c34|st||md|4S96H952DK963CK953,SA8432HJDQT7CAT64,SKJTHA8764DJ82C82,SQ75HKQT3DA54CQJ7|sv|n|nt|tarekr:  Mildred would have accepted with 14|pg||
nt|rv: if East doesn't open, will you open 1@d or 1n with North hand?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: the director was here getting the auction from a board in the last set, where there was some sort of appeal in the other room|pg||
nt|bridge_one: Sementa and Duboin started to play togheter few years ago, so they at Versace the system|pg||
mb|1N|an|12-14|nt|bridge_one: there are only few change, depending on style to play, but 88% is equal|pg||
mb|p|nt|tarekr:  when I am short oM, i generally will bid a good 4 cd major in 3rd or 4th seat|pg||
nt|duschek: EW play a strong club showing 16+ or possibly 15 balanced. 1NT is 12-14 at all seats and vulnerabilities.|pg||
mb|2H|an|Tx|nt|bridge_one: 98%|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: 6@C possible  but likely to play in 3NT|pg||
mb|2S|nt|tarekr:  support|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 2@S is limited at 9 hcp exclude 4 cards|pg||
nt|xenya: double?|pg||
nt|xenya: must be a specialised bid|pg||
nt|bridge_one: dbl by North is aggressive in vuln|pg||
nt|psyck: even playing equal level conversion, it would not occur to me at this vul|pg||
nt|bridge_one: Dbl give @H + a minor|pg||
nt|bridge_one: with sgl @s North think the partner can have @s and points, so he must bid anything|pg||
nt|xenya: if it shows the reds, S is not pleased|pg||
mb|p|nt|tarekr:  shows 3 cd support|pg||
mb|2N|nt|psyck: S clearly expected more|pg||
nt|bridge_one: now depending on agreement - i suppose 2Nt was convetional for N/S in this auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: invite sequence it looks like|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: no more tricks than the 5@d, & 2 aces in sight|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 3N need a present by defence|pg||
nt|xenya: good defence will obviously beat this|pg||
nt|chick: clubs could be set up, but I think defense will get their major suits first|pg||
nt|psyck: yes, should set it 1 or 2 w/o much difficulty i think|pg||
nt|duschek: Yes, with 11 decent HCP, Askgaard invites game opposite 12-14. This sequence is a standard Jacoby sequence; I believe that 2@S denied 4-card support|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: some wastage in diamonds|pg||
nt|chick: each bidding their weakness|pg||
nt|kareno: This looks like some sort of relay auction.  |pg||
nt|bridge_one: 2@s 2@H 1@C are ON for defence in all case|pg||
nt|bridge_one: but can make more tricks|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Good morning to Bill Jacobs in Australia|pg||
nt|bjacobs: hi all|pg||
nt|sybarra: hello Bill |pg||
nt|Walddk4: Bill plays the same system as Fantunes, so we are well covered now|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ady: anything from 11 to 13 tricks in clubs |pg||
nt|Walddk4: as Jacob knows the Danish system pretty well|pg||
nt|bjacobs: yes, and I might learn something as well|pg||
nt|duschek: Bjarnarson decides on 3NT, based on the bad distribution and slow values|pg||
nt|bjacobs: This is a coded lead:  normal count from hands that include an honour|pg||
pc|dT|nt|rv: some might not show supp double with sub-min hand (11 hcp with Mildred)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: same auction in the other room to 3NT on 49, and they made an overtrick|pg||
nt|kareno: I'm told 2@h was a gf|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|kareno: Club slam requires picking up the suit.  Stiff king in either hand twice as likely as stiff jack in north.|pg||
nt|duschek: I have learnt a bit too much from Askgaard and Bjarnarson this year, losing 4-25 to them in the round-robin of this year's Danish championship, then by 80 imps in the semifinal|pg||
nt|sybarra: ugh|pg||
nt|sybarra: a bunch as we say |pg||
nt|bjacobs: The Norwegians were a little conservative in the closewd room and it is going to hurt them|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Maybe I'm not meant to call them Norwegians ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Declarer has thumbed @H3 several times|pg||
nt|sybarra: that is assuming "we" make it here|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|nt|tarekr:  I bet it is not going to be the same auction in other room on this hand|pg||
nt|rv: @s back could be best here|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
nt|duschek: Communications are not very good, but the cards are friendly towards declarer this time|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: speaking of communications, connection here has been unreliable. |pg||
pc|h3|nt|chick: a stiff king in either hand doesn't guarantee picking up the suit|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hJ|nt|bjacobs: Fulvio will be going through all the permutations and combinations, trying to visualize a layout where he can beat this|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: pull up a chair, get a drink. This is going to be a long set.|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|chick: so still same odds overall|pg||
nt|sybarra: we may see low @S  off dummy now|pg||
nt|bjacobs: we will, surely|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I think declarer is wondering whether he should play @SA first|pg||
nt|bjacobs: in case South has @SK singleton|pg||
nt|bebechira: we have to congratulate Bill for the wonderful win yesterday for Victoria in the Australian National Championship :)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: yes, well, not exactly the spingold ...|pg||
nt|sybarra: congrats Bill! |pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|nt|rv: here both Mildred and Quinn could have shown restraint in second round of bidding, case for both to pass|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|kareno: If you can get two round of clubs in safely then spades might break.  I'm not sure how I would play this in six.  |pg||
nt|psyck: picking up @c's is hardly 6%|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|kareno: Lauria is a fine declarer... let's watch!  Heart lead best for the defense.|pg||
nt|psyck: a very poor slam, and both Q 1st & A 1st are equal odds|pg||
nt|psyck: it is just a question of J single with N or K single with S..about 6% on a @h lead|pg||
nt|bigtrain: you have to add Jxx offside with xxx+ in spades|pg||
nt|kareno: Lauria is declarer.  Lynch on lead.  Without a spade lead it is easier but club suit still an issue.  Then spades a problem.|pg||
nt|psyck: indeed, still say calling it 10% doesn't make it sound so good either :)|pg||
nt|kareno: Sorry, without a HEART lead |pg||
nt|bigtrain: so makeable if singleton K in S by picking up trump OR singleton K in N if S has xxx+ in spades|pg||
nt|kareno: No but remember the Italians winning a world championship because Kx of spades was in the pocket.|pg||
nt|bridge_one: however this result is the risk to overcall with light hand|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|kareno: Right it was clubs. |pg||
nt|kareno: Okay good lead.|pg||
nt|psyck: now all up to his table feel :)|pg||
nt|psyck: we are lucky to get an exciting start anyway :)|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|bridge_one: 4@H now|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|bjacobs: So now is the time to get really simple, a second club finesse, more spades and hope|pg||
nt|sybarra: how does he get back to hand? |pg||
pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s5|nt|chick: my worst bridge nightmare, a two way guess for a slam|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|bigtrain: he clearly chose the % line|pg||
nt|chick: I average about 7% getting it right |pg||
nt|ady: 11 imps to Lynch|pg||
nt|psyck: yes, A is better as you mentioned due to additional @s chances|pg||
nt|kareno: This was a total guess except that he knew two cards in south's hand, KQ.  That could have swayed him.|pg||
nt|kareno: King singleton either hand gives him a chance for the hand.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s7|nt|bjacobs: He doesn't|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|psyck: yes, more normal to wait for pd to balance aggresively than entering before opps limit hand, at least at this vul|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 4 spades, 3 clubs, a heart and a diamond|pg||
nt|sybarra: and doesnt care actually I see |pg||
pc|hA|nt|rv: 3 down|pg||
nt|xenya: hardly an achievement by NS, this one|pg||
nt|bridge_one: the line played by south is a little strange, because if East hold Q@C then can find one trick - probably better continue  with Q @H for KJ @S in east|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h9|nt|tarekr:  2 more tricks for W|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|d8|nt|duschek: So it's 6 more imps for Bjarnarson|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg||
nt|kareno: He needed four spades in the south hand on his assumption she had Kxx in clubs.  |pg||
nt|kareno: So therefore the spade finesse - if she has four spades, then it is a better than even money finesse.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 7|pg||
nt|duschek: Make that 7|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o35|st||md|1S64H7432DAQT7CQT2,S73HQJTD43CKJ9654,SAJT98HK65D86CA83,SKQ52HA98DKJ952C7|sv|e|nt|tarekr:  As expected perfect defense|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: If the hands are going to be like this it is going to be as looooong evening.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: A bit remarkable in that Hamman never says much at the table.|pg||
nt|ybob: calm 3NT here|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: they tried 4 @S in other room on bd 33 for the save|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: A practical rubber bridge bid.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|nt|fabsayc: can this be a canape?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|Vugraphzfe: Both sides of the screen writing explanation of this sequence.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|peachy: Welland-Branley system nnotes say thi:    We are pretty aggressive and imaginative, so we might show up without the shape or strength that we have promised at any time.      Expect ...|pg||
nt|peachy: excitement during the match, at some point|pg||
mb|p|pc|s6|nt|santyclz: Must have been shortness rather than a minimum.|pg||
pc|s3|nt|tarekr:  should easily come to ten tricks.|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c7|nt|santyclz: Let me take that back, n could easily go opposite a minimum with such good controls out of the suit.|pg||
nt|chick: yes, but still they are probably too high|pg||
nt|rodal f: A lot of cards are placeded now after S bid.|pg||
pc|c2|nt|stewball: would welland open 2@h on KTxxx?|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c4|nt|santyclz: It didn't show a "subminimum".|pg||
nt|peachy: First seat favorable, I wouldn't put it past him, don't know though|pg||
nt|peachy: I have seen interesting actions in the past|pg||
nt|stewball: well the K convinced zia that he might apparently|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Didn't notice where Zia won that one.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: When the cards start flying at this table, they do so very fast.|pg||
nt|stewball: he;s likely to lose a couple on this defence|pg||
nt|ybob: declarer can play small, J@S and @S to K if @S are 4/2 play next @H and squeezed N later|pg||
pc|c3|pc|s2|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s4|nt|santyclz: I'm told they play Ogust, in which case 3@c was "bad hand" "bad suit", surely an accurate description.|pg||
nt|chick: but she still went on to game?|pg||
pc|s7|nt|peachy: An old CC for Arnim- von Auken says "Canape style with longer minors but neverl onger majors" so Martin got it right|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s8|nt|ybob: same after J@S and K@S |pg||
pc|sK|nt|ybob: :)|pg||
pc|h7|nt|rodal f: wd|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|ybob: now with @S 4/2 play  9@H ...|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|nt|santyclz: It's makable double dummy, run the q then ruff a @d.|pg||
nt|stewball: why|pg||
pc|cA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d5|pc|h3|pc|cK|pg||
nt|stewball: curious|pg||
nt|ybob: run @H N is squeezed @S and m|pg||
pc|d8|nt|santyclz: Ah she has enough entries to ruff the @d later.|pg||
nt|chick: well, guess her play matched her bidding :)|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
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qx|c35|st||md|1S64H7432DAQT7CQT2,S73HQJTD43CKJ9654,SAJT98HK65D86CA83,SKQ52HA98DKJ952C7|sv|e|nt|tarekr:  some of the spots are missing:)|pg||
nt|kareno: This IS Carolyn Lynch, isn't it?  Not Peter Lynch?|pg||
nt|kareno: Once the club ace drew the jack, that was the preferred line of play|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|psyck: 2@c is limited as !@c is available with stronger hands|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: 3@d requires right @d guess here|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 2@C polish, so 10/15 5+ cards in @C|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: One of the key aspects of the Fantunes system is that you have to open 1NT on many many many hands|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: This is one of them ... although he did have a 2@S opening as an option (in third seat)|pg||
pc|d5|nt|duschek: What does 1NT show in their system?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: about 12-14, semi balanced|pg||
nt|sybarra: "any thing"|pg||
nt|bjacobs: It's opened with all 5332 shapes, and most of the 5422's|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 12-14 announced|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Now if you believe the rule of 11, you play the 7 here|pg||
nt|duschek: And he needs a lot of overtricks to match the 400 from the open room|pg||
pc|d7|nt|rv: plenty of wastage in rounded suits for E-W, after South's entry into auction, Quinn should get @ds right|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
nt|kareno: South fell in love with her hand.|pg||
nt|bridge_one: many write me 2@C 11/14 - OK, but the concept is similar :)|pg||
nt|sybarra: and there you are in dummy |pg||
pc|s4|nt|rv: Cronier could have doubled 2@d to show @hs and @c tolerance (snapdragon double) which would have allowed Willard to compete in @hs|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes, he needs 10 overtricks ... too difficult, even for Fantoni|pg||
nt|duschek: Apart from the diamonds, cards are breaking terribly for declarer|pg||
nt|bjacobs: The precious @CA is the entry ... can E/W find a way to remove it?|pg||
pc|d2|nt|tarekr:  Very good point Venky|pg||
nt|rv: maybe too ambitious opposite a passed partner who bid 2@c at these colors, reasonable auction all around|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d4|nt|psyck: after 2N, S's hand becomes worse, but some would open 4@s anyway 1st time |pg||
nt|bridge_one: 2@C in napolitan, blueteam, precision and polisch are very similar|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Nope|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sT|nt|ady: might be held to 6 tricks|pg||
nt|kareno: Not a bad 4@s opening bid and here she should gain IMPs.|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|bigtrain: forced to win 7 as e/w don't have requisite communication to win 3 @C tricks|pg||
nt|ady: if a spade comes now will have to rise with ace and exit with spade|pg||
nt|bjacobs: And  North has his 7 tricks|pg||
pc|s2|nt|rv: I suspect Quinn will get @ds right here, especially after Willard shows @SA as well|pg||
pc|h2|nt|tarekr:  A lot of people forget snapdragon at 2 level!|pg||
pc|c4|nt|kareno: Yes, then west will be righteously endplayed.|pg||
nt|psyck: Should find it as E may have bid more with more values|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Well ... he's isolated from @DA|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|h3|nt|kareno: Well done by Carolyn Lynch!!|pg||
nt|ady: well done   3 imps to Lynch|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|s8|pc|dJ|nt|rv: now 1 down|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: now a club trick for NS|pg||
pc|h4|nt|duschek: There will be an endplay somehow|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: diamond Imeant of course|pg||
nt|bjacobs: It looks like it ... with clubs 6-1, doubt the defence can do anything|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Say North plays a low club here ... E/W can grab their hearts, but then they are stuck, whoever wins the 3rd heart|pg||
nt|duschek: However, if declarer plays the @CA and another club, it will be over|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I don't think he will do that|pg||
nt|sybarra: and we can see why the other room had trouble with 3 nt |pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes, you could certainly post-mortem their auction|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|nt|rv: @D9 with South is crucial, good defense, no chance for declarer, apologies for incorrect analyses|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: indeed she did|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: declarer apologized i meant|pg||
pc|hA|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|bjacobs: The third heart squeezes dummy horribly, but declarer survives|pg||
nt|bjacobs: whatever he does|pg||
pc|h9|nt|duschek: I am not sure, but I think the 2@S bid in the open room showed about 10-13 HCP with a 5-card spade suit. Helgemo balanced, but Helness took him very seriously, or decided that 3NT ...|pg||
nt|duschek: might be as good as 3@C|pg||
pc|dA|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|d9|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|dK|pg||
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qx|o36|st||md|2STHT82DJT7432CK82,SJ876HAQ7DKCQT975,SQ542HKJ643DQ85C6,SAK93H95DA96CAJ43|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfe: Indeed.|pg||
nt|santyclz: Oh we of little faith...|pg||
nt|sybarra: e/w want some exciting bds |pg||
nt|sybarra: or ones they can score on |pg||
nt|rodal f: If @H was 3-2|pg||
nt|stewball: well thats for 3|pg||
nt|ybob: if S run 2 @H tricks ...|pg||
nt|stewball: he had 9 on top|pg||
mb|1C|nt|fabsayc: the last hand was won and lost in bidding, not the defense|pg||
nt|ybob: now of ocurse with @S 3/3|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|nt|ybob: course|pg||
mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|fabsayc: not sure why 6@H was down 3, is certainly a reasonable contract|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|puncher99: even if u opn lite thts real lite vul|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|santyclz: There are currently 4 vg tables running, to watch multiple tables:  www.bridgebase.com/mobile  Open 1 browser window/table.|pg||
pc|h3|nt|Vugraphzfe: I'm sure it is best if I concentrate on just one table. :)|pg||
nt|chick: this should be easy with all the black honors favorably placed|pg||
nt|santyclz: A spec points out that if s passes and n opens 1nt s might like her 6-4 enough to push to game.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: normal for them in strong club|pg||
nt|rodal f: U find the other table bu the BBO vug TV: http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and they have the tools to stay low when needed|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h8|nt|fabsayc: still if my partner opens and i hold east hand, we are not stopping below 6|pg||
nt|stewball: zia was about to take 9 bramley gave him 12|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s6|nt|tarekr:  2@S? trying to catch up?|pg||
nt|stewball: 3@h|pg||
nt|stewball: welland might try 3nt |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Bobby Levin is taking a stroll around the room as someone turns dummy for him.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Obviously they must be playing different boards.|pg||
nt|peachy: They do, actually, so no security probs|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d6|nt|santyclz: But in the other room after a 1nt opening s settled for 2@S.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|nt|Vugraphzfe: von Arnim alerted 5 @cs -- Auken did not.|pg||
nt|rodal f: They are on for a helty contract, but @H a bit ugly this time.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: she cant alert what she has not seen|pg||
nt|puncher99: i dont know about the 4diam bid   If i havnt shown 2n round club control  im not helping pard with 4 diam bid|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s3|nt|Vugraphzfe: Some discussion between Quinn and Willard.  I think it is about the 2@s call|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|chick: Then it's a good thing she managed to make it|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|fabsayc: wow, lucky for westheimer 5 goes down|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: As usual, I am about half a round behind in the posting of the auction.|pg||
nt|rodal f: 4@D=que|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s9|nt|stewball: i think this is a big position by welland,he doesnt need much for game|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|peachy: NS open most 11 point hands so in that context, he had more than slight extras|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|stewball: 3@h could have been a punt with scatterred usefullness|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c5|pc|h4|pc|cJ|nt|tarekr:  someone told me it showed min with 4@s|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c36|st||md|2STHT82DJT7432CK82,SJ876HAQ7DKCQT975,SQ542HKJ643DQ85C6,SAK93H95DA96CAJ43|sv|b|nt|bridge_one: and normally dependin also fron composition of hand - with 15 good @C i think the use 2@C, overall when opps is vuln|pg||
nt|duschek: So another 7 imps for Bjarnarson. This time generated from the open room.|pg||
nt|sybarra: likely the table feels that is a push or minor scoring  certainly not & |pg||
nt|sybarra: not 7|pg||
mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|bjacobs: what the?|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ady: looks like 10 tricks in clubs for e/w|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|tarekr:  it seemed sh could have pulled trumps before playing @s. Of course had to find Q@d|pg||
nt|ady: maybe only 9|pg||
nt|xenya: routine 3N here -- probably doomed|pg||
mb|p|nt|psyck: surely S was worth another bid|pg||
nt|psyck: yes, unfortunate lie of @c's|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: 6@h good slam|pg||
nt|psyck: knows won't win it at 1 level|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: I think a 2@S bid is clear, if only to prevent 2@C|pg||
nt|kareno: In particular to keep e/w out of clubs.  |pg||
nt|psyck: with those good @s's, i prefer 2@s to 2@d rebid|pg||
nt|duschek: Askgaard decided that @CQT9xx was unsuitable for a 2@C opener, with 1NT being a decent alternative|pg||
nt|duschek: With 75% of the HCP in the short suits, I can understand him|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 1NT 12-15|pg||
nt|sybarra: its sort of a 12|pg||
nt|duschek: 12-14 as far as I know - 15 balanced HCP should be within the 1@C opening|pg||
nt|bjacobs: North has to decide a strategy for the defence ... go for ruffs, or try to force declarer?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: In the OR, they went for the force ... a losing heart lead|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Of course, it was a different auction, with N/S bidding and raising hearts|pg||
nt|duschek: Morten Lund Madsen's lead of a small heart in the open room did not give declarer a hard time|pg||
nt|sybarra: well they did bid hts in the OR |pg||
pc|h3|nt|rv: it needs correct handling from West hand on @c lead|pg||
nt|kareno: I do too, Krishna|pg||
nt|bridge_one: but Balicki will play for all chances ! here the chance is a mistake by opps|pg||
nt|duschek: Yes, on that auction leading a heart is pretty obvious|pg||
pc|h5|nt|bjacobs: I think the forcing option  is a fair call ... at best you will get one ruff, and it opens up the hand for declarer if you lead clubs|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|psyck: they do not have communication for @d, but dec has no sourse of tricks either|pg||
nt|xenya: 8 tricks and no sign of a 9th|pg||
nt|bridge_one: A @d at first trick and @D would give the chance of a error by East|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s2|nt|psyck: a @h switch sometime will defeat this|pg||
pc|sA|nt|rv: if North leads a @c, declarer should draw trumps, pitch dummy's @c on @s and take ruffing finesse in @cs or guess @d for @c pitch|pg||
nt|bridge_one: not, it was the same, having the 8 in @D|pg||
nt|xenya: i can see 2 clubs, 1 diamond, 2 hearts and 3 spades for declarer -- and no endplay on the horizon|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|duschek: The ACE of hearts?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: misclick|pg||
pc|sK|nt|rv: 6@H lot better from East hand since declarer can first guess @ds before postponing @c play|pg||
nt|psyck: may not be easy to defend though|pg||
nt|kareno: The defense needs to tap dummy.  If east gets his diamond ruff it will be an easy hand for north.  |pg||
nt|bridge_one: E/W carding is inverted count, small encourage|pg||
pc|d4|nt|xenya: Balicki would probably make it if i were defending, but not against these opponents|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s3|nt|rv: all of this discussion is academic since @hs break 4-1 here|pg||
nt|psyck: they needed to set up @h trick before @d ruff|pg||
nt|kareno: Indeed.|pg||
nt|psyck: W having passed 1st time & N having bid @h, it was tough|pg||
nt|kit: seems pretty clear to return a heart and put it to declarer|pg||
nt|psyck: maybe @hT was reverse suit preference|pg||
nt|bridge_one: the question is that any return is Ok for the defence :)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|s8|nt|bridge_one: except @C, of course|pg||
nt|psyck: yes, any normal passive def works|pg||
nt|bjacobs: This probably delivers a couple of imps to the monacons|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg||
nt|kareno: Jack of clubs calling for hearts.|pg||
pc|cT|nt|bridge_one: a famous 75 % down :)|pg||
pc|c6|nt|psyck: at least dec will know it will be a flat board|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h2|nt|kareno: If Passell plays two rounds of trumps he'll go down.  Must finesse and did.|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|s9|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dT|nt|rv: Quinn playing for ruffing finesse line, bad trump break should scuttle any chance|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s5|mc|11|nt|duschek: 1 imp then|pg||
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qx|o37|st||md|3SAKJ953HKDJ98CAQJ,SHT83DKQT74C76542,SQT86HJ762D3CKT98,S742HAQ954DA652C3|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfe: yes I did misclick that but the claim is +2.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  which, looking at the hand does make sense|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the usually slow men are 3 boards ahead of this match|pg||
nt|ybob: was better 3NT, only down 1|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|rodal f: N hard to stop but W have a nice sac.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: If they keep inventing auctions like this, then it will be a long session.|pg||
mb|2N|mb|3S|mb|4S|nt|puncher99: feels like a 4diam bid is better|pg||
nt|rodal f: Sr. Been interesting. Need to go back where I shall be. See u later.|pg||
nt|puncher99: ok bye|pg||
nt|fabsayc: south hand has improved to point 4@S bid seems right|pg||
nt|peachy: Quinn in other room bid 4D instead of 3|pg||
nt|puncher99: pard is usually 65 on these colors|pg||
mb|d|nt|chick: choosing to ignore the spade suit worked out ok this time|pg||
nt|stewball: chunky weak 2|pg||
mb|p|nt|ybob: on a good day win 6@D, cold if no @S lead|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zia's turn to check out Levin's table.|pg||
mb|p|mb|5D|mb|5H|nt|stewball: suit pref by bramley|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: We can be fairly sure it is not S who is hesitating|pg||
mb|5S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|puncher99: lol|pg||
mb|6D|nt|sybarra: and spades break nicely here  |pg||
nt|sybarra: but can she handle 4 @S?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|santyclz: 9 top tricks in nt, sometimes preempts work.|pg||
nt|peachy: :)|pg||
mb|6S|nt|tarekr:  Q@C onside is big help|pg||
nt|tarekr:  however it will still depend on how she handles @c's if she has to do it herself|pg||
nt|stewball: or not|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  on the road to making 5|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|nt|vugraphpl3: przepraszam za przerwê. kto urwa³ kabel od internetu...|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tarekr:  here we go|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|hA|nt|puncher99: cant b wrong to ruff it and cash the spade|pg||
nt|casenjo:  well 4 now|pg||
pc|hK|nt|tarekr:  home free even with @d ruff|pg||
nt|ybob: why not ruff @C to 11 tricks ?|pg||
pc|h3|nt|casenjo:  I don't know, that was my play|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|casenjo:  I was a little surprised|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cA|nt|Walddk5: Good morning to Frank Budai|pg||
pc|c2|nt|vugraphpl3: licytacji niestety nie widzialam|pg||
nt|frankaus: g'day all|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|d9|nt|santyclz: Welcome, Frank.|pg||
pc|d4|nt|sybarra: must be feeling a bit better now |pg||
nt|tarekr:  for certain|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: It was a @d loser anyway.|pg||
pc|sT|nt|frankaus: just on daybreak here|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|d7|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c37|st||md|3SAKJ953HKDJ98CAQJ,SHT83DKQT74C76542,SQT86HJ762D3CKT98,S742HAQ954DA652C3|sv|n|nt|rv: if Cronier had @cK this would be an excellent defense since declarer can't test @hs before playing @cs (only hope is @Ck inside on 4-1 @h break)|pg||
nt|tarekr:  yeah rite I lost the begining of the auction|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: final contract 4 s|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|tarekr:  they play 2-way NMF|pg||
nt|duschek: As mentioned earlier, EW open almost all hands with 10 HCP and a 5cM, so this one is not even close to passing for Bjarnarson|pg||
nt|sybarra: "any 10"  opening |pg||
nt|bjacobs: Fair enough, but it's now impossible to imagine Fantunes duplicating the OR result|pg||
nt|sybarra: W likely to jump in hts?|pg||
mb|3C!|an|!H|nt|rv: Westheimer leading by 1 IMP actually here|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 5@D 2(3) down |pg||
mb|3H|nt|kareno: I think 2nt is a limit raise perhaps with 4 spades.|pg||
mb|3S|nt|rv: 5@d good save here|pg||
nt|bridge_one: Dbl by East means a H in @D |pg||
nt|kit: he might take the save now|pg||
nt|duschek: 3@C is probably Bergen, showing some 7-9 points and 4-card support|pg||
mb|4D|nt|bridge_one: yes|pg||
nt|bridge_one: with 7 cards and weak hand 5@D is automathics|pg||
nt|sybarra: some sort of ht support I assume|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Explained as diamonds by the vugraph operator|pg||
nt|bjacobs: E/W are doing well ... they are on the way to heavily pushing N/S around|pg||
mb|4H|nt|rv: after Quinn's 4@d, maybe Mildred should have taken push|pg||
nt|bjacobs: North shows a good raise to 4@S, in the context of his previous pass|pg||
nt|duschek: In that context East's 3@H looks quite odd|pg||
nt|sybarra: yes but n/s seriously got pushed around at other table|pg||
mb|5H|mb|5S|nt|duschek: West has so great diamonds that he decided one of them might as well be a trump|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: bad eyes from operator|pg||
nt|bjacobs: ok, so 3@C did show hearts, and then 4@D was natural - it all starts to make sense|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: writing small and long way from me|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: 5@d would be excellent especially if West had @h length instead of @cs, even now only 2 down|pg||
nt|tarekr:  she thinks she can beat 4@s that's why she passed|pg||
mb|p|nt|psyck: 2@d instead of 3 like other table seems to have worked better here|pg||
nt|bridge_one: West can stabilise a @C|pg||
nt|kit: he will have to lose a second spade trick unless something strange happens, so down 3|pg||
nt|bjacobs: E/W might be "happy" to have pushed to the 5 level|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Even if East now bids on, I don't think N/S will go overboard|pg||
nt|bjacobs: They both have two many secondary cards in the red suits|pg||
nt|bjacobs: too|pg||
nt|Walddk4: But 6@D is close to making if you guess hearts|pg||
nt|duschek: East should be 6@D, it seems - those three small spades tell him that there will be many tricks available for both sides|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Probably a trick short|pg||
mb|6H|nt|ady: try ruffing finesse|pg||
nt|duschek: Yes, there is a lot of work to do in 6@D|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|psyck: I'm guessing Lauria would have opened 4@s with S's hand deal 3 :)|pg||
nt|kareno: Sorry, with only 3 spades.  New keyboard messing me up here in Toronto.|pg||
nt|bridge_one: i agree with 2@D with bad suit|pg||
nt|chick: 3@H by N would have made it much harder for E to show diamond tolerance|pg||
nt|bridge_one: overall they are also a passed p|pg||
nt|psyck: @s suit is frozen, so may well escape for -2|pg||
nt|bridge_one: correct krishna|pg||
nt|kit: why will defense ever be forced to break spades?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Even more in 6@H ... this is a very wrong contract|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: as we said earlier,  this table is not for faint of heart  (or granny)|pg||
mb|p|pc|sA|nt|rv: in my view at IMPs, Mildred should take insurance at these colors|pg||
nt|duschek: Of course, Bjarnarson does not realize that Askgaard only has 3-card heart support so simply bids the sure 5-4 fit|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Right ... expecting to ruff spades with all those hearts|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Whereas in 6@D, he was worried about ruffing spades with partner's diamonds, and then his weak diamonds being exposed|pg||
nt|bjacobs: However, it seems wrong that East never bid diamonds even once|pg||
nt|duschek: The unlucky expert...|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s6|nt|kareno: Yes, straight finesse too risky - could lose diamond, 2 hearts and a club.|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|hT|nt|bjacobs: I think that, having bid 5@H, he could have offered 6@D as an alternative|pg||
pc|h2|nt|tarekr:  Venky you r rite because there is also the possibility 5@d makes|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Remote possibility I should say :)|pg||
nt|kit: I'm sort of surprised by this line of play.  Ace of hearts was only sure entry to dummy, so seems like it should have been used for spade finesse|pg||
nt|psyck: @sQ & @dQ are entries to @c|pg||
nt|kit: they are, but declarer doesn't know that|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 3 down is ok, so to use A@H to make the finesse in @S is a risk to go 4 down|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c9|nt|sybarra: maybe should not have touched trumps?|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|kit: 2 down still a lot better than 3 down.|pg||
pc|h8|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d4|nt|rv: Cronier-Willard are from France and one of the top women pairs in the world|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|hA|pc|s5|nt|psyck: yes, @s fin does look like best practical chance, though there were possibly better line double dummy|pg||
pc|c5|pc|h6|pg||
nt|duschek: He probably fails to see why one 5-4 fit should be better than another. Even if this pair has played together for about 10 years, using Bergen with only 3 trumps may not have ...|pg||
nt|duschek: occurred often|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d9|pc|c6|pc|h7|pg||
nt|rv: nowadays NABC events are like a mini Rosenblum or Mcconnell Cup (World open champs)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|c7|pg||
nt|bjacobs: true enough.  But maybe partner had 6 diamonds?  It was a fine point, and I feel that he never consulted his partner on the possibility|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o38|st||md|4SA954HT93DT64CKT6,ST3HKQDAQ9752CAJ7,SJ6HA8654DKJ3C953,SKQ872HJ72D8CQ842|sv|e|nt|frankaus: 1 or 2@S by Quinn?|pg||
nt|tarekr:  back hampton only down 4 imps. 4@s went down at other table|pg||
nt|peachy: Hampton creating distance, but still 10 boards to play|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|santyclz: Probably have votes for 1, 2, 3 and 4.|pg||
nt|frankaus: 4@S :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H!|nt|sybarra: making it a close match again |pg||
nt|peachy: Limited 1H (strong club)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|chick: 3@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphpl3: wyniki na ¿ywo http://www.kongres-slawa.pl/2011/k7.html|pg||
nt|frankaus:  needs a @C switch to set it|pg||
nt|tarekr:  interesting NT but 2@d would be NMF probably|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|peachy: As N, I wouldn't know what to lead against this auction|pg||
pc|h4|nt|casenjo:  nowhere for tricks to escape to, looks like only 9 tricks here|pg||
pc|h2|nt|peachy: but maybe H regardless of opening|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d8|nt|frankaus: sorry @D|pg||
nt|santyclz: 1 0 2 1 |pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: spade queen or jack|pg||
pc|h5|nt|tarekr:  looks like goin at least d1|pg||
nt|tarekr:  better contract at other table 2@h|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|s2|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|c2|pc|dT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: although west hand a mystery heart lead liable to give a trick|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|nt|stewball: 14 much needed imps to nickell on 36|pg||
pc|h3|pc|c7|pg||
mc|6|nt|sybarra: more interference at the other table |pg||
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qx|c38|st||md|4SA954HT93DT64CKT6,ST3HKQDAQ9752CAJ7,SJ6HA8654DKJ3C953,SKQ872HJ72D8CQ842|sv|e|nt|rv: in my view NABCs are more tougher than World Mind Sports Games or even Bermuda Bowl/Venice Cup, I would say Rosenblum tougher than these US events|pg||
nt|duschek: Still a successful sacrifice against the 5@S that was, or was not|pg||
nt|bjacobs: quite true ... the big problem was the other room|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|an|strong|nt|bjacobs: I have to step out for 20 minutes ... will return.  Probably I'll only miss one hand!|pg||
nt|duschek: Apart from that, I agree with your point. If partner does not have long diamonds, he will retreat to hearts|pg||
nt|sybarra: again looks like issue with other room |pg||
mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|psyck: will likely pass i suppose|pg||
nt|kareno: Not a great suit but north wants to get into the auction in case west has only four hearts.|pg||
nt|kareno: 2@h is natural, hearts, for the specs asking.|pg||
nt|psyck: yes, at this vul, worth getting into auction by N with good shape|pg||
mb|2H|nt|chick: pretty ratty heart suit for this bid, even over something like Qxxx|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|ady: this looks a misunderstanding|pg||
nt|kareno: South obviously thinks north has some sort of 5/5 takeout!!|pg||
nt|ady: fortunately  not too much grief|pg||
nt|kareno: So they are lucky and land on their feet.|pg||
nt|psyck: I suppose S was did not take it as Natural & N passed assuming misunderstanding|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 2@C polish, so 15/18|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: coffee deal here|pg||
nt|tarekr:  How about a Tea Party deal here:)|pg||
nt|kareno: Great lead by Versace.|pg||
nt|psyck: there are several bids like 2@d, 1NT, Double to show other suits, so it is common to play 2@h as natural as the 1@h could come with weak hands & you are sitting above the suit|pg||
nt|duschek: 1@S is forcing to game, so West's pass is for takeout|pg||
nt|duschek: You might say that Monaco needed those 12 imps on the previous board|pg||
mb|3D|nt|rv: Tarek, same deals played in Spingold and Wagar?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: no|pg||
nt|kit: so they have to open 2@C with 5+ clubs or lose the suit?|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 2@S is forcing (after 1@S 7+)|pg||
nt|psyck: both 1@c & 2@c can have @c suits|pg||
nt|psyck: just that 2@c is limited, like prec|pg||
nt|kit: I mean with minimal opening|pg||
nt|bridge_one: many told me that 2@C is forcing in polish club - i amn't sure about this|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 2@s limited (of course) but dont means weak like in natural !|pg||
nt|kit: Seems like it is forcing, otherwise it would be pretty risky on that big a hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|tarekr:  I don't think so! anyone?|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, it is forcing -- to game in this sequence|pg||
nt|duschek: Askgaard can almost visualize short diamonds in East. He will not be that enthusiastic about his 16 HCP. They were fine when the auction started, but with the opponents bidding ...|pg||
nt|duschek: hearts, that doubleton @HKQ is not particularly wonderful|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|rv: thanks Joe|pg||
nt|rv: for latest Spingold R16 scores (after 3rd segment), please access the excellent new web-site http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/spingold-round-of-16 |pg||
mb|3S|nt|psyck: on @h lead, dec will give up a @s & if @sT does not come down, fall back on @c's|pg||
nt|psyck: @d may be lead though|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 1@C 1@d , 2@C isn't forcing|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 1@c 1M , 2@C is forcing (of course) bec 1M 7+|pg||
mb|4S|nt|sybarra: can E pass?  guess not|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 1@C 1M 2@C 2@S isn't a strong hand, but i think forcing 1 because can hold 9 points !|pg||
mb|p|pc|hT|nt|duschek: No, 1@S is forcing to game, so if anybody should take a chance, West should be the one. After all, East has more or less denied 10 HCP, having passed initially.|pg||
nt|sybarra: so even as passed hand it is forcing to game,....interesting|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|nt|rv: Official tourney web-site http://www.acbl.org/nabc/index.php?a=2011&b=Summer&c=daily_bulletins|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|chick: Same for all 1minor P 1major ... bidding either of the opp's suit should be natural|pg||
nt|duschek: Well, almost forcing to game. West might show 15 balanced (or 16 bad), in which case I believe that EW can stop below game. I am not sure if they can show such a hand in this ...|pg||
nt|duschek: auction though|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dT|nt|kareno: Eight tricks and no more - |pg||
nt|ady: looks like 6 imps for Cayne|pg||
nt|duschek: For 4@S to have any chance, South must have the @CK singleton now. Then declarer also needs the @DK with South, but that is hardly possible based on the 1@H overcall.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 20+ minutes behind on clock|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: It does not appear as if time clock pressure will speed anybody up here.|pg||
nt|duschek: As long as everybody agrees to play slowly, there is not much you can do in a knockout match|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Nunes just called director to notify about opponent's speed (lack of).|pg||
pc|dA|nt|Vugraphzfc: Askgaard agreed it was his side that is slow.|pg||
nt|duschek: They often are, it must be admitted|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Boards have been removed for slow play in this event.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d8|pg||
nt|psyck: good to have thse sequenced discussed with your pd as they come up more often than you'd expect|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|nt|kit: I'm sort of surprised declarer played a second spade -- seems like that risks going down when diamonds 5-2, while shifting to clubs has 5 clubs, 1 spade, 2 diamonds, 1 heart|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|xenya: not quite clear why Sementa didn't win @SA at trick 2|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|d2|pc|h4|pg||
nt|duschek: So down two, but still 3 imps for Bjarnarson|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s9|nt|tarekr:  nice squeeze for ten tricks|pg||
nt|tarekr:  11|pg||
pc|d5|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s5|pc|d9|pc|h8|pg||
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qx|o39|st||md|1SK8HAK98D95CQJT75,ST52H543DAQT2CA42,SA97643HQT7DJC986,SQJHJ62DK87643CK3|sv|b|nt|fabsayc: 4NT should have gone down a lot more, par is a minor partial, surely reachable|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|frankaus: 13 availablr in the round suits 4 Quinn|pg||
nt|peachy: This is one the poorer 15 counts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2@D transfer or multi?|pg||
nt|puncher99: prob 1 suited major|pg||
nt|peachy: Their old card says 2D is onesuiter H or 2-suiter w spades|pg||
nt|peachy: I dont have a fresh one at hand|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|tarekr:  Alas interference is not always "bon"|pg||
nt|peachy: likely not much change, but just guessing|pg||
nt|fabsayc: here we go in fantasy land again|pg||
nt|puncher99: wht does 3c mean?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Well, it certainly isn't dull.|pg||
nt|peachy: 3C tends to me, to confirm what I said about 2D. E has spade support in case partner had 2-suiter with spades|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: 3@c alerted on both side.  No explanation asked for or given.|pg||
nt|peachy: EW play Flannery so 1S should promise 5|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: Disa asking questions now.|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d5|nt|Vugraphzfe: Seems only fair.  EW have been bidding N's suits.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Valerie does a double take at the bidding when the tray is passed to her side of|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: the table.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this could get very ugly to play, 4@H is better|pg||
nt|peachy: 4H should be off 1 on the spade lead so in that light, 4S is not much worse|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@H is making double dummy as several spectators have noted|pg||
nt|ybob: 3nt is the best spot from E than W|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|peachy: Perhaps it is|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|frankaus: nice auction so far|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ybob: now  p p p|pg||
pc|s3|nt|frankaus: now will quinn move?|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|santyclz: 6@d?|pg||
nt|chick: certainly hope so|pg||
nt|santyclz: Yes!|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: I just report them -- I don't make them up.|pg||
nt|santyclz: I wasn't arguing, I was recommending.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: :)|pg||
nt|ybob: 10@C save the hand|pg||
nt|ybob: to 11 tricks|pg||
nt|ybob: cold 10 anyway|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|s8|nt|fabsayc: if i double 4@S i double 5@H as well, and for sure when trailing|pg||
pc|s5|nt|tarekr:  a good auction|pg||
nt|tarekr:  and a good lead|pg||
nt|peachy: Westheimer getting some needed IMPs now, making the match all the more interesting|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: By her gestures, it seems North is a bit surprised by the auction.|pg||
nt|frankaus: somewhat fortunate layout will see a quick 13 claim|pg||
mc|9|nt|puncher99: u want them to cover always lead the big one off  the table|pg||
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qx|c39|st||md|1SK8HAK98D95CQJT75,ST52H543DAQT2CA42,SA97643HQT7DJC986,SQJHJ62DK87643CK3|sv|b|nt|rv: Westheimer original 2nd seed, Hampton original 4th seed |pg||
mb|1N|nt|rv: Top seeds Fireman are knocked out|pg||
nt|rv: Please access all names from http://www.acbl.org/nabc/rosters/2011/02/WAGAR/|pg||
nt|tarekr:  by Hampton|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: I like 3@h here though slightly risky|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: gives Cronier a a difficult problem|pg||
nt|rv: Cronier can't double with only doubleton @s, choices are to pass or bid 4n asking partner to pick minor|pg||
nt|psyck: no game makes, but someone will get to some game here likely|pg||
nt|kareno: Our Operator is new to the game and doing very well :)|pg||
nt|duschek: So this should be a standard 1NT for Nunes, 12-14 and (5422)|pg||
mb|2H!|an|Tx|nt|rv: any new suit bid at 4 level by Cronier would be GF|pg||
nt|rv: Mildred may crack this|pg||
nt|rv: will go 2 down with ruff in other minor|pg||
nt|tarekr:  I think 4@s would be for the minors in my house since I can bid 4@h to trsfr to @s|pg||
nt|tarekr:  4NT would be quantitative|pg||
nt|ady: have to leave     thx all|pg||
nt|kareno: Though he's a far better bridge player!!|pg||
nt|kareno: Thank you!|pg||
nt|chick: and commentator :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: That too.  He and I won the Canadian Open Team Trials thirty years ago or so.|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|rv: good point Tarek|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: apparaently that is what Willard was thinking|pg||
nt|tarekr:  u see Willard took it as Quantitative|pg||
nt|psyck: a Reverse Bergen raise I suppose|pg||
nt|chick: anyone prefer 2@C rebid after the neg double?|pg||
nt|psyck: 2@c looks ok|pg||
nt|chick: sorry, 3@C|pg||
nt|psyck: aah, that must be why he chose 2@s :)|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 3@c means strong hand|pg||
nt|bridge_one: so must bid 2@s|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|duschek: Made the auction very simple|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|nt|rv: this goes 2 down as well:)|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|psyck: with good shape & suits, E chooses to balance after opps limit thier hands|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|sK|nt|bridge_one: 2@s also in open room|pg||
nt|bridge_one: West could try 3@c, but vuln better to play 2@S not doubled - opener can have 6@S and xx in @C|pg||
nt|bridge_one: same auction in open room|pg||
pc|s2|nt|rv: it had the additional advantage of Mildred not doubling:)|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hK|nt|rv: normally I play Texas transfers only with a jump, in my methods for quantitative hand I need to double 3@h and then invite, still good point by Tarek for partnerships to discuss|pg||
nt|kareno: Well done by n/s but still a pickup for Cayne with the double of 4@h in the OR|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 9@s|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|h9|mc|10|pg||
qx|o40|st||md|2S864HQ43DK72CA763,SJ97HAKJTDAJ6CJT4,SAH987652DQ95CQ92,SKQT532HDT843CK85|sv|o|nt|santyclz: Nice tight match going on here.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Quinn: "It's an easy game.  We make it complicated."|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Val: "Disa, what was 3@s?"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Disa: "Obviously the minors."|pg||
nt|fabsayc: making 2, not down 3|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Nickell chipping away at the lead.|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H!|nt|fabsayc: it is only minors if explanations same on both sides of the screen, which i doubt they were|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: It has been a very strange set so far.|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Yes, this seasoned team is very patient|pg||
nt|casenjo:  We will not see them swinging from the trees, they will grind it out|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|peachy: spared a mess, if EW did not ask.|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|sybarra: oh oh,  @H lead and this is down |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|frankaus: now will plaay in @S  3 or 4?|pg||
mb|p|pc|h7|pc|d3|nt|casenjo:  no, he owns a company|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|casenjo:  long story, will explain later, working now|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|Vugraphzfe: Connection winked out of existance for a moment.|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|ybob: declarer duck 2 rounds and home after play @H´s to 9 tricks|pg||
pc|h8|nt|frankaus: re|pg||
pc|d4|pc|h3|pc|hT|pg||
nt|tarekr:  The Amercan system in particular is not conducive to minor game contracts|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Smoke break.|pg||
nt|sybarra: do they have to go way outside or something nearby?|pg||
nt|tarekr:  they played from the N at other table and no @h lead|pg||
nt|sybarra: not sure what the 1 @H bid was |pg||
nt|sybarra: 1@H was alerted as "3+@Hs"   |pg||
nt|sybarra: at least didnt get a @H lead  |pg||
nt|tarekr:  it was alerted but I don't know either. Ross do u know how 1@h was explained|pg||
nt|sybarra: explained as 3 + @H I am told|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Well, I'm back.  Shawn and Mildred are back.  we are just waiting on the French|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: contingent.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  It surely was magic here.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: ...and now we are all back...|pg||
pc|s7|pc|h2|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c40|st||md|2S864HQ43DK72CA763,SJ97HAKJTDAJ6CJT4,SAH987652DQ95CQ92,SKQT532HDT843CK85|sv|o|nt|tarekr:  Bon repetez-le moi|pg||
nt|kareno: Oops, pickup to Lynch who now lead by ten.|pg||
nt|psyck: this will not be good for Lynch though|pg||
nt|psyck: as 4@h looks a comfortable make|pg||
nt|bridge_one: less one in open room|pg||
nt|duschek: 1 imp for Monaco when EW failed to cash their diamond trick|pg||
mb|1C!|an|strong|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|bridge_one: but 10 tricks can be made, i think|pg||
nt|xenya: how did it go down in OR|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: lynch made a basic mistake, winning the @C opening lead with the J, then no entry to dummy|pg||
nt|psyck: dec must have lost track somewhere, all normal lines should make|pg||
nt|kit: club lead, declarer continued clubs, ruffed, diamond to queen and king, another club, and couldn't handle it after that apparently|pg||
nt|psyck: @d ruff entries were there still, could have made by playing @s|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 4@h is ON for sure|pg||
nt|bridge_one: but must call 4@H|pg||
nt|psyck: with @hK & @sA well placed, dec will make in comfort here|pg||
nt|bridge_one: Duboin can pass|pg||
nt|chick: bridge is a game of mistakes, she still makes fewer than I do :)|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 3N is possible, yes|pg||
nt|bridge_one: i bet Duboin  first: pass, second 3N|pg||
nt|duschek: Here we have the 15 balanced included in the strong hand|pg||
mb|1N!|nt|psyck: not the beast lead other room...|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 3@h is very conservative by Sementa|pg||
nt|kit: West had difficult to evaluate -- he thinks king of spades worthless on auction.|pg||
nt|bridge_one: agree with Duboin pass|pg||
mb|2N!|nt|psyck: best even, or should i say beastial lead|pg||
nt|kareno: 3nt not the best contract either.|pg||
nt|psyck: yes, 5@c is comfy, but normal to end in 3N|pg||
nt|kareno: 3@s to show a stopper I guess here. |pg||
nt|psyck: they may just not see enough values or shape to be in 5 level & with a different arrangement of cards 3N may be superior|pg||
nt|chick: Will N figure that one is enough?|pg||
nt|chick: in any case, S needs to be declarer in NT to protect that K, so perhaps best to just bid it now|pg||
nt|kareno: Kt9 doesn't need much  protection.|pg||
nt|chick: (if she's going to try for it)|pg||
nt|kareno: Zmudzinski led the A of @h in the OR against 3nt - definitely NOT best.|pg||
nt|chick: It could happen here too, if she shows a spade stopper|pg||
nt|kareno: But they won't lead a heart if west doubles spades, I'm sure.|pg||
nt|bridge_one: only chance is try 3N with K10xxx in @s|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: getting to 4 @S is questiong here |pg||
mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|rv: West employed garbage stayman here, intending to pass any bid by partner|pg||
nt|kareno: So this WILL be a pickup for Cayne.|pg||
nt|duschek: Actually, I seem to recall that Askgaard has told me that 1@S is 100% forcing to game. It is true that they used to be able to show 15 balanced and then stop below game, but they ...|pg||
nt|duschek: have abandoned this possibility.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: point alerts, but no written ones|pg||
mb|3N|nt|tarekr:  exact. A good tool|pg||
nt|rv: such auctions normally cry for trump lead|pg||
nt|bjacobs: hi again|pg||
nt|sybarra: re|pg||
nt|duschek: Instead they try to have 8 good HCP at least for their positive responses, hoping that 15+8 will often equal to game when necessary|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: 15+8 = game, hmm|pg||
nt|bjacobs: that's not the math they taught me at bridge school|pg||
nt|sybarra: just have the play the hand better Bill :)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: quite so|pg||
nt|duschek: 1NT is a relay, 2NT shows 8-11 HCP with 6+@S and a 4-card minor. 3@C asks which one, and 3@D shows diamonds, the distribution not being a 6421 type|pg||
nt|duschek: Sorry, 3NT shows diamonds etc.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: N and E whispering, can't hear it.|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|duschek: So to sum up, West knows that East has 6+@S4@D, but not a 6421 type|pg||
pc|c3|nt|duschek: If East's whispering is loud enough, North will know that too|pg||
nt|sybarra: again,  faster than a speeding bullet |pg||
pc|c4|nt|psyck: doesn't want to make 11 tricks as not in 5@c?|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|tarekr:  Avons-nous des spectateurs Francais?|pg||
nt|rv: should go 1 down on accurate defense|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|kareno: Always justify your bidding!|pg||
nt|psyck: 2@s opennig minimized the losses there i guess|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: all players on a break|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: E probably a little careless with second club play seemed momentarily unhappy with W pass|pg||
nt|kit: not careless -- just trying to make as many tricks as he can.  Why should he suspect 7-1 split?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: everyone in a good mood two very evenly matched teams|pg||
nt|psyck: indeed, they were tied at end of 1st set & scores still close|pg||
nt|bridge_one: hoverwev i would bid dbl over 2@S two suit hand weak|pg||
nt|bridge_one: because with a 2 suit hand 3@H can be a big risk finding long @D at the partner|pg||
nt|bridge_one: and bec i have the force to bid 3@H over 3@C|pg||
pc|c5|pc|h3|pg||
nt|psyck: considerately not allow pd to figure out you missed game|pg||
pc|hK|nt|rv: now 2 down|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c8|pc|h4|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 32 minutes into next set already|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|s5|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d4|nt|tarekr:  it iis 4:41 am in France|pg||
pc|d7|nt|tarekr:  5:41|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d5|pg||
pc|c6|nt|rv: Hampton have opened up a healthy lead mid-way through last segment|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cQ|nt|duschek: Should be 1 more imp for Monaco - an unexpected result after underleading the @CA and losing the club trick. The explanation being that North led a heart against 4@S played by West ...|pg||
nt|duschek: in the open room|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o41|st||md|3SKT85H5DJ87CAJT96,S64HKQJ43D63CQ754,SJ972HT86D954CK82,SAQ3HA972DAKQT2C3|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfe: Connection problems.|pg||
nt|puncher99: dont u hate it when someone bids ur 6 card major  in front of  u?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Taking a short break.  Fatigue has set in and people are getting a bit edgy.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|vugraphpl3: ostatnie 2 rozdania turnieju|pg||
nt|frankaus: 2@H 4@H?|pg||
mb|2C|nt|peachy: 1C  =  either natural or balanced 11-13/17-19/18-19 HCP; the balanced version can contain a 5 card major, especially with 17-19 HCP.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|d|nt|fabsayc: 3nt is horrible but better than 3@S|pg||
nt|peachy: apparently this hand fell in between the cracks|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|santyclz: Oh my!|pg||
nt|chick: Mildred is sitting there holding her breath|pg||
mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|gregpog: :):):) Zapraszamy na jutro - na godz. 15.00  -ostatni przekaz BBO z tegorocznej Slawy|pg||
nt|santyclz: She survived it.|pg||
nt|frankaus: Willar rescues  Quinn|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|chick: so a push|pg||
nt|chick: in the other room, Wolpert went up with the @SA at trick 1|pg||
nt|santyclz: It could have been from a doubleton, Breed concealed the 3.|pg||
nt|ybob: well E-W win 10 tricks on @C|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|dA|nt|puncher99: can almost make 3n|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d6|nt|vugraphzfe: Welland: "All that for me?  Score!"|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|hA|mc|12|pg||
qx|o42|st||md|4ST75HJT82D632CQJ4,SQ83H63DAK4CAT732,SKJ92HA95DJTCK865,SA64HKQ74DQ9875C9|sv|b|nt|santyclz: Dodged a bullet on this one.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Well that hand wasn't terribly exciting.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: We are back.|pg||
mb|1D|nt|ybob: 2@H p 3@H 3@S p ... now ?|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|santyclz: Hefty nt.|pg||
nt|chick: If she goes up with the @SA, then she needs either the @DA onside or the @HK onside.  Better odds than the finesse.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|Vugraphzfe: A somewhat normal auction.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|tarekr:  still a 2imp loss for Westheimer|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|tarekr:  4@s and 3@h for NS|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Director: "you have 38 minutes for 7 boards."|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Lost the play with the directors in the room.|pg||
nt|peachy: dont worry, we all appreciate your tableside observations!|pg||
mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|chick: as someone pointed out, in the other room, W overcalled a spade on bd 25, makes the decision at trick 1 very easy|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h9|nt|tarekr:  what a lead!|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg||
nt|santyclz: The play won't take as long as the bidding.|pg||
pc|d9|nt|tarekr:  that's better|pg||
pc|d2|nt|ybob: only A@S and @D defeat it|pg||
nt|stewball: hamman echoes in trumps likely indicating a ruffing potential|pg||
nt|ybob: and with 9@H too|pg||
nt|stewball: i expect they dont trump signal routinely|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Hamman did play the 2 and then the 3|pg||
nt|stewball: sorry my bad,,i thot he echoed|pg||
nt|stewball: perhaps he should have:)|pg||
pc|dA|nt|chick: 4@D probably some kind of pseudo-splinter|pg||
nt|chick: perhaps showing certain aces, we don't have their system card here|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: In any case, Zia did not get that message.|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d5|nt|peachy: I think the message was the H9|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Possibly, though we will probably never know.  Hamman does not post-mortem at|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: the table.|pg||
nt|peachy: I was also guessing, I hoe I made it clear it was a guess|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|gregpog: ide do szafy - gdzie jest film??|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s2|nt|gregpog: wyslij mi na maila|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d8|nt|gregpog: sorry - priv :)|pg||
pc|s7|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg||
nt|vugraphpl3: dziêkujê wszystkim. |pg||
nt|vugraphpl3: jutro godzina 15 ostatni przekaz. |pg||
nt|vugraphpl3: wyniki http://www.kongres-slawa.pl/2011/k7.html|pg||
nt|vugraphpl3: info http://www.kongres-slawa.pl/|pg||
nt|ybob: nice J @S|pg||
pc|d7|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|mc|9|pg||
qx|c42|st||md|4ST75HJT82D632CQJ4,SQ83H63DAK4CAT732,SKJ92HA95DJTCK865,SA64HKQ74DQ9875C9|sv|b|mb|1D|nt|bridge_one: 1@C 12/14 balanced|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Well, 6@H made somehow|pg||
mb|1N|nt|rv: I play 2@s by Cronier's hand here as natural|pg||
nt|xenya: not quite laydown, but should make as the long club in the N hand can be set up|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|rv: double would be t/o and 1n would be sandwitch showing other 2 suits (@c+@h) from North hand|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 1@D less 7 hcp|pg||
nt|bridge_one: now 1M also with 3 cards|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: Accepting the transfer, showing three spades.|pg||
nt|bridge_one: bec 1Nt is 18/20|pg||
nt|duschek: Roland, if you have ever made a comment on the speed of my play, I kindly ask you to remember this match|pg||
nt|Walddk4: so Fantoni must have led something|pg||
mb|3D|nt|tarekr:  When they bid 2 suits and we bid one of them it is natural unless other partnership agreement|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 1D can be also 7/11 with @D or 16+bal without Majors|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: depends which|pg||
nt|ritong: rho's, yes|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|psyck: making W's decision easier|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, indeed.  As south, I would have bid hearts - anyone else?|pg||
nt|psyck: hmm 1N by N?|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 1N easy after the auction|pg||
mb|3N|nt|psyck: sure, I'd stop doubling 2@h otherwise|pg||
nt|chick: the X is for a lead ... unless you have agreement with partner that it also shows a playable suit, I'd be cautious|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: is PO in the room? |pg||
mb|p|nt|duschek: 1NT=clubs, any strength; 3@D=GF with 3@D5+@C|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|nt|tarekr:  also lho because they bid short m's often|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|ritong: also, béné and sylvie oplay "sandwich" 1NT as natural, i guess like a vast majority nowadays|pg||
pc|h3|nt|rv: I am surprised Von Arnim climbed up to 5@h in the deal where Willard-Cronier had misunderstanding to play in 4n, lucky she was not doubled|pg||
nt|tarekr:  sandwich is on the vane I believe.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Cronier closed screen and asked for a review of the auction, but was told it is too late|pg||
nt|rv: normally you lose less if both sides of partnership have bad result on same deal, IMP scale is such|pg||
nt|psyck: it has to be a suit also, cannot risk x otherwise|pg||
nt|kareno: You need a suit to make those doubles - otherwise you can end up defending 2@h redoubled :)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: at 2L you have to have some lebgth else its too dangerous to act|pg||
nt|kareno: I think three of us are aligned on that subject :)|pg||
nt|chick: I not disagreeing|pg||
nt|bridge_one: strange 1N by Duboin :) he is prudent ... |pg||
nt|psyck: yes, glad to see he was not getting frivolous|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|nt|xenya: also, S might have a stronger hand|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d6|nt|bigtrain: some are just faster typists than others :)|pg||
nt|chick: but I still advocate caution, NS are vul, EW have the balance of points, all you have is heart length|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|d7|nt|kareno: Club king is a value.  If you're afraid, stay home :)|pg||
pc|d2|nt|rv: surprised Mildred didn't review it, presume sportswoman spirit right?|pg||
pc|dK|nt|ritong: i m not enthusiastic either about such conformism|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: after the hand, Cronier asks what Breed had opened and everyone laughed|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: I think the rules are clear on that|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
mc|10|nt|duschek: 10 tricks and another imp for Bjarnarson|pg||
pg||
qx|o43|st||md|1SKT754HAQDK4C9754,SJ82HJT84D8753C86,S93H9752DAQ6CKQ32,SAQ6HK63DJT92CAJT|sv|o|nt|santyclz: Couldn't find their cc, USWBC system summary:  http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=799&pid=94|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Misclicked.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zia apologizes for not giving Hamman his ruff.|pg||
nt|stewball: so far a fairly sloppy set|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: Quinn: "I didn't fly al the way to Toronto to 'pass'".|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: *all*|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|santyclz: Willard Cronier cc:  http://www.jcbl.or.jp/nec2006/cronier-willard+notes.pdf|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|chick: good hand bad suit?|pg||
nt|frankaus: if they could show the @S splinter feature then Breed may be tempted|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Breed deep in thought....|pg||
nt|frankaus: some use their Jacoby  - responses after 2M - 2NT|pg||
nt|chick: From North's point of view, she only needs the @HA and a side K to be in slam|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: It's not every auction where you can rebid your @ds at the 1 level.|pg||
nt|puncher99: good hand for xx neg bid of 2h|pg||
nt|fabsayc: danger lurking|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: I do my best to give an idea of what is happening in the room.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: LOL |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: ...as a second suit...|pg||
nt|fabsayc: my thought too, they have had trouble in past with 2@D waiting|pg||
nt|fabsayc: pass should be automatic|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|nt|frankaus: here we go  nicely done|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: val passed with a good deal of reluctance.|pg||
pc|h3|nt|sybarra: I am afraid I would open the hand 1 @D |pg||
nt|sybarra: it's not a reverse for me |pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|chick: lots of ideas from kibs ... 4@S kickback?  4@D last train?  my guess is 4@D shows both minor suit aces|pg||
nt|sybarra: meaning 1 @C then bidding 1 @D or 2 1d |pg||
nt|tarekr:  me too! however she apparently was prepared to rebid 1NT|pg||
nt|sybarra: 2 @D |pg||
nt|puncher99: i dont see making 6 from either side|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|nt|frankaus: almost :(|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Bailed out at the last moment.|pg||
pc|cK|nt|Vugraphzfe: Explanations on both sides of the screen.|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|d6|nt|stewball:  awkward even with trumps splitting|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Raising to 2@s was certainly an option for Sylvie here|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d5|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s4|pc|d8|nt|chick: at least the other table didn't bid it either, lost opportunity but not lost imps|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|fabsayc: can make 5 on squeeze and throw in|pg||
pc|c3|mc|8|pg||
qx|c43|st||md|1SKT754HAQDK4C9754,SJ82HJT84D8753C86,S93H9752DAQ6CKQ32,SAQ6HK63DJT92CAJT|sv|o|nt|psyck: S had side singleton, 5th trump in pd's suit, potential tricks in 2 side suits, enough & more to bid something|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Another 1NT opening|pg||
nt|duschek: Yep|pg||
mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|bjacobs: This is what I was talking about before ... in Fantunes, you have to open 1NT on all sorts of shapes, including this one|pg||
mb|d|nt|psyck: it may not have mattered on that deal, but surely normal to make a noise|pg||
nt|psyck: not an easy call for S|pg||
nt|psyck: any votes? 2@d? 1!n? something else?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: All 5422 shapes, except both majors|pg||
mb|2S|nt|tarekr:  French 2@d Game force I believe|pg||
nt|rv: is 2@d opening multi here which includes of acol 2 in a minor?|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: to tarek|pg||
nt|rv: ok|pg||
nt|ritong: 2@d = any game force|pg||
mb|p|nt|tarekr:  2@h neg|pg||
nt|kareno: Perhaps 2@h.  Perhaps 1nt.  It is a tough choice and 2@d is okay too.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: on 41 N lead @D, and delarer in 6@H won and played @C|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|psyck: 2@h also a possibility even 43 cannot be bad at 2 level|pg||
nt|bridge_one: KQJx over the sgl is the worst figure for N :)|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: So Shirley's guess of "red" was a good one|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: with very poor @s's, my preference would be for 2@d or 2@h|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: sylvie considers her hand as balanced, more precisely 3 of a minor would show seven cards, basically|pg||
nt|tarekr:  or always required|pg||
nt|sybarra: so I won,    not a black suit lead|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|rv: on likely @s lead or shift, 10 tricks here|pg||
nt|bjacobs: men overboard here|pg||
nt|duschek: Well, if EW believe that 15+8 produce game, NS might believe the same for 12+11|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: S won @CA, and returened @D|pg||
pc|h2|nt|bridge_one: not more that 8 tricks for declarer - the defence is obvious|pg||
nt|kit: playing a club not safe now, as defence could cash winners and promote a trump trick if West has the queen|pg||
nt|ritong: and east 4:@s|pg||
nt|kit: or if East has 5 diamonds|pg||
nt|bridge_one: yes, to promote the Q 4@S must be in east :)|pg||
nt|ritong: @ds a natural chance, yes, so declarer has to draw trumps without informations|pg||
pc|h3|nt|chick: I think 2@D is safest ... if partner can't stand it, then he has somewhere else to go|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s3|nt|psyck: yes 2@d most normal, 2@h could lead pd to expect 4 with you|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Same total, 23.  And this deal just goes to show that 23 is usually not enough.  Even with the heart finesse on, and spades as friendly as can be|pg||
nt|duschek: They will probably complain that clubs do not behave as well|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Sorry, system froze after bidding on 41|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Sure, the club is off, and that is a killer ...|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cK|nt|kareno: Exactly and that suit bears rebidding.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Nevertheless, this is a very very poor game, and the swing is deserved|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|xenya: meanwhile, the Cayne team have extended their lead to 18 imps, bit by bit|pg||
pc|s9|nt|ritong: 2@h "negative, meaning no ace or and less than two kings|pg||
nt|chick: K10xxx is not much of a suit to rebid, but best of the choices this time|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|bjacobs: The swing is still deserved :)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: It's just going in the reverse direction|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s8|nt|tarekr:  Thx. I thought I remembered.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|sA|pg||
nt|sybarra: needed to clear the ht ?  |pg||
nt|bjacobs: yes|pg||
nt|sybarra: too late now  |pg||
nt|bjacobs: The super duper friendly spades brought declarer home when the defence slipped slightly|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o44|st||md|2S9HKT7DQT64CAKJ97,SK743HJ83D7CQ8652,SAT6HQ962DA953C43,SQJ852HA54DKJ82CT|sv|n|nt|chick: Now EW have the chance to stay out of an unmakeable game|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|4S|nt|tarekr:  risk of getting too hi here but she should have the tools to stop at 5@c|pg||
nt|sybarra: the 4 @S bid in the other roo was what?  a "zia" cue bid?|pg||
nt|tarekr:  they instead of she sry|pg||
nt|tarekr:  must be|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|sybarra: suggested is was response to 4 @C key card |pg||
nt|sybarra: going at it another way here |pg||
nt|stewball: 2@s asks range i think|pg||
mb|p|nt|frankaus: needs a @S lead to set 5@D|pg||
mb|p|pc|s9|nt|ybob: 2@S = @C or bal invit|pg||
nt|stewball: well this is non systemic|pg||
nt|ybob: 3NT by W|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Correct, if I interpret the hand gestures correctly.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|santyclz: However they are  pinpointing the lead.|pg||
nt|frankaus: the bidding is likely to get a @S lead now|pg||
nt|tarekr:  another big swing for Hampton|pg||
nt|stewball: thats better|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
nt|chick: @H lead at the other table allowed declarer to pitch a @S|pg||
pc|hK|nt|santyclz: Too much science.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|nt|ybob: " Meckwell style 2@S "|pg||
nt|stewball: actually i think its kokish|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: OK.  I had to leave the table for a moment so I don't know what has happened.|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|c7|nt|chick: so this will be another swing for Westheimer team|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|vugraphzfe: Sorry about that.   In all the excitement I for got the final bid. :)|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|nt|frankaus: as is often the case 3NT is the spot  - |pg||
nt|chick: 3N down on spades too|pg||
nt|tarekr:  I am going to add bidding natural 3 cd suits to my repertoire:)|pg||
nt|othered1: 1 imp closer than the Wagar final at the moment.|pg||
nt|sybarra: hi Ed :) |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Cards are coming so fast I lost the play.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  hi Ed|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s7|pg||
nt|ybob: short by 1, np|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|d6|mc|8|pg||
qx|c44|st||md|2S9HKT7DQT64CAKJ97,SK743HJ83D7CQ8652,SAT6HQ962DA953C43,SQJ852HA54DKJ82CT|sv|n|nt|psyck: the case for 2@h is that the @d suit is poor & there are likely to be quite a few tricks on ruffs in @h contract|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Lauria on a break|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: back|pg||
nt|kareno: Lauria smokes so he's always running for a puff |pg||
nt|psyck: e.g., if the @s's were 53 you may end up getting a lot of ruffs in @h contract|pg||
nt|bridge_one: now 4@S for E/W are possible to call|pg||
nt|duschek: So 23 HCP is normally all you need for a game|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: goddammit|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|rv: ty Henri, Tarek can add this info to his encyclopedia if it is not already there:)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: what is their 2@C opening?|pg||
nt|chick: as long as the defense doesn't lead hearts :)|pg||
nt|ritong: extremely|pg||
nt|psyck: possible to make, calling is the tough part|pg||
nt|duschek: We can learn a lot from watching these guys. They can too.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: back to remedial school for me, apparently|pg||
mb|2C|nt|bjacobs: Helgemo bid 4@S (after a takeout double):  the pressure bid, but technically a violation of the Law ... and he was justly punished|pg||
mb|3H!|an|7-9 !S raise|nt|psyck: yes, they tend to do that when you least expect it, nasty people|pg||
nt|bjacobs: This 3@H bid, whatever it means, is legal, and probably successful|pg||
nt|duschek: I am not sure about the EW methods, but there should definitely be a bid available for showing a "Bergen 6-9" raise of spades. Perhaps that's 3@H.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Whatever your methods, Bergen, or any other, the point is this:  with a weak hand and 4 card support, you take yourself to the 3 level|pg||
nt|duschek: Agree|pg||
mb|d|mb|3S|nt|ritong: semi forcing|pg||
nt|ritong: 2@s is XL, 2@d is XXL|pg||
nt|chick: :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: 2@c*|pg||
nt|tarekr:  fg to 2Nt or 3 of a major Henri?|pg||
nt|sybarra: and being red,  doubt fluvio can come back in |pg||
nt|bjacobs: Spec suggests that at this vulnerability, 4@S is the right choice, but I don't agree.  The vul only changes the size of your minus swing|pg||
mb|d!|an|T/O|nt|ritong: i think responder can pass 2@c 2@d 2M|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 3@h is support stronger that 3@S|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 3@S is sufficient 13 hcp unbalanced|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: the "do something smart" X,    |pg||
mb|3N!|nt|duschek: Yes, that amounts to saying that the opponents will always make game at this vulnerability|pg||
mb|p|nt|tarekr:  OK|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Nunes has a counter to it ... he asks Fantoni to "do something smart"|pg||
mb|4D|nt|Vugraphzfc: a reminder that our BBO score if off by one; Westheimer has one fewer IMP than shown|pg||
nt|ritong: regarding albarran, his carreer ended in the 50's, he started in 1935 to participate to world events|pg||
nt|rv: this lead should help declarer here|pg||
nt|bjacobs: A sensitive auction by N/S, but they will struggle to make 4@D|pg||
nt|duschek: Of course, game may make, in which case 4@S will work out fine, but it is certainly not guaranteed|pg||
nt|bjacobs: But a raise to the 3-level doesn't stop PARTNER from trying 4@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|chick: not sure I approve of setting up the @SJ|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: so his convention must have seen the light in 1940 or so|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|duschek: Right - West should show his hand type, and East should make the final decision.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: This is a really important "bread and butter" competitive hand.  Much more instructive than those 23+8 things :)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s3|nt|chick: W was certain to have one of the royal honors|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|kit: ace of hearts, king of diamonds, queen of spades.  Need 2 out of 3 to be right in order to make, so basically a tossup.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 15+8, I should say|pg||
nt|duschek: 23+8 should be enough for game though|pg||
nt|bjacobs: with a competent declarer, certainly |pg||
nt|bjacobs: anyway, this is a tough hand for Fantoni to play|pg||
nt|sybarra: the competent declarer is not an issue for this table |pg||
nt|duschek: This also needs about 10 overtricks to equal the result from the open room. Fantoni will get used to it.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: over 20 minutes behind on clock|pg||
pc|d3|nt|duschek: Not many losers, but must be very careful|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|d7|pg||
nt|rv: so rare to see a convention last so many years|pg||
nt|ritong: oui|pg||
nt|ritong: especially a heavy one like that one, but it has some positive aspects|pg||
nt|ritong: like knowing the color of a possible ace with responder|pg||
nt|rv: maybe Willard was better off to ruff a @d before cashing @cs|pg||
nt|kareno: Good heart shift|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I feel he needs to find @HJ, and it's in the less likely hand|pg||
nt|sybarra: bet he feels that trick is good news/bad news  trick|pg||
nt|bjacobs: yes, smells like 4-1 diamonds|pg||
nt|bjacobs: East being less likely to duck with @DKJx|pg||
nt|bjacobs: A strong spec has pointed out to me that maybe West is more likely to have @HJ in his 7-9 range|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Let's see, West has @SK, and nothing in diamonds|pg||
nt|bjacobs: So if East has @HA, then West must have the other two honours|pg||
pc|hK|nt|bridge_one: small @D now|pg||
nt|psyck: game much better after South bids of course|pg||
nt|bridge_one: discarding 3@C in the dummy|pg||
nt|ritong: got no pigeon that time, kit|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|nt|chick: needed to switch to a red suit and diamonds was clearly out|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|s5|nt|bjacobs: Hmm, Fantoni has drawn exactly this conclusion|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg||
nt|chick: the @SQ might have put a lot more pressure on declarer ... forcing a ruff|pg||
nt|kareno: Are we still waiting for Versace?|pg||
nt|duschek: Though the singleton diamonds counts for some of the 7-9 points|pg||
pc|hT|nt|rv: likely 1 down now|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: could still ruff a diamond and throw E in with a spade|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h6|nt|psyck: no, we are waiting for more exciting hands|pg||
nt|kareno: All in due course :)|pg||
nt|kareno: Heart now can promote an extra trump trick for south.|pg||
nt|psyck: ruff @h with 9, @d to A , pitch @dQ on @h etc|pg||
nt|kareno: I said 'can' not 'will' - west needs to be careful.  But a low heart is troublesome to him.|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|psyck: trump Q before @da before |pg||
nt|duschek: Making now - East will get two trump tricks, but no more|pg||
nt|duschek: But that's 5 imps for Bjarnarson|pg||
nt|bjacobs: It's only a partscore deal, but this is a really good hand, both bidding and play|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|sT|nt|rv: well done by Joe and Willard:)|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d6|pc|s7|pg||
nt|tarekr:  not so fast! |pg||
nt|duschek: Yes, a very interesting auction. Even starting with Nunes' 2@C overcall, where double is a reasonable alternative.|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|c2|nt|Vugraphzfc: indeed -- needed to pitch a diamond earlier|pg||
nt|tarekr:  exactly|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
nt|tarekr:  I guess she did not realize E had Kx@d|pg||
pc|h9|mc|10|pg||
qx|o45|st||md|3S864HJT872DAJ42C5,SQ953HAKQ96DKCKJT,SKT72H54DQT98C972,SAJH3D7653CAQ8643|sv|b|nt|santyclz: With the @ss so nicely blocked, anyway.|pg||
nt|chick: oops, you are right|pg||
nt|frankaus: can @S be untangled ?|pg||
nt|santyclz: No.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zia: "C'est la vie."|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|Vugraphzfe: Open room having trouble with their slam bidding. :)|pg||
nt|tarekr:  time for a Zia splinter :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|sybarra: wonder wha t the 2 @H was in the other room |pg||
nt|tarekr:  Michaels: 5-6 or 6-6|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|tarekr:  good pass from Shawn|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: She thought about it for a minute.|pg||
nt|sybarra: 2 @H was invite + with support was the alert|pg||
mb|p|mb|5H|nt|frankaus: i have a "fable" about 5 minor contracts -|pg||
nt|chick: remove your children from the room for a moment :)|pg||
nt|santyclz: Does it involve gingerbread houses?|pg||
nt|tarekr:  a chance to get 12 back here for Westheimer|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2@D shows hearts but not forcing beyond 2@H|pg||
nt|puncher99: can actually make it|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: Sorry.  The hotel connection gets a bit flakey every now and then.|pg||
mb|6C|mb|p|nt|stewball: not much drama here|pg||
nt|peachy: Especially for our non-US specs, here is Spingold history |pg||
nt|peachy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spingold|pg||
mb|p|nt|puncher99: not a spot i would want to be in tho|pg||
mb|p|pc|dA|pc|dK|nt|frankaus: 5m like kissing your own sistes - even when its right its hard to get excited about it|pg||
nt|frankaus: sister|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|santyclz: I could easily get excited kissing your sister.|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d6|nt|chick: not me|pg||
pc|d2|pc|cT|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|nt|ybob: 140 ?|pg||
nt|ybob: 2@S 2@D|pg||
pc|d5|pc|h7|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|cJ|pc|dT|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|c8|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|h8|nt|chick: well done by Cronier, Quinn was stuck|pg||
pc|h6|pc|c7|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c45|st||md|3S864HJT872DAJ42C5,SQ953HAKQ96DKCKJT,SKT72H54DQT98C972,SAJH3D7653CAQ8643|sv|b|nt|rv: so far, excellent set by French ladies here except for 4n blip|pg||
nt|xenya: 10 or 11?|pg||
nt|duschek: And of course interesting play too|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|xenya: 10 confirmed|pg||
nt|duschek: West must bid 2@D, as 2@H would be non-forcing|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: Transfer perhaps.  |pg||
mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|rv: @d lead would scuttle both 3n and 4@s|pg||
nt|duschek: Actually, with a minimum hand, 2@C denies four diamonds. 3@C shows a minimum hand with a club single-suiter|pg||
mb|3D!|nt|tarekr:  I think that playing only 4 in such an event is wearing even on the best of them!|pg||
nt|chick: 1@H shows spades over a 1@C opening ... the 2@S bid shows 5|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 2N raise of course|pg||
mb|p|nt|duschek: If Askgaard asks for distribution with 3@D, I wonder which lie Bjarnarson will prefer|pg||
nt|duschek: The system bid would be for Bjarnarson to open 1@D, but one can imagine why he hated that|pg||
mb|3S!|nt|Vugraphzfc: passing French mints around the table|pg||
mb|p|nt|duschek: 3@H would show any 6322, 3@S shows any 6331, and anything else would have shown at least 7 clubs|pg||
mb|4C!|nt|ritong: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: the atmosphere here has been very pleasant in this set|pg||
mb|4H!|nt|rv: technically low @d lead is right lead with no semblance of entry in Cronier's hand|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: they are good (the mints)|pg||
nt|ritong: grr|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: Good practical bid by Mike Passell.|pg||
nt|duschek: So he reasonably decided to show the hand as 3136, which is confirmed by 4@H|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Which leaves West in a tricky position|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: oops |pg||
nt|bjacobs: Didn't like the singleton heart longer spades ... I can understand why they have missed this slam|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|nt|bjacobs: Have to credit H-H here ... this is a hand where you can know too much, and talk yourself out of slam|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe West needed to break out of relays to set @C for slam investigation|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg||
nt|chick: I don't like the 2N bid myself ... void in partner's suit leads to exactly this kind of problem, no entry to use them|pg||
nt|kareno: Looking for doubleton T or Q or 3/3 clubs.|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c4|nt|Vugraphzfc: director here encouraging faster play|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Ah les gourmandises francaises! Joe|pg||
nt|ahollan1: distribution wasn't the key  for how high  just @C vs @H|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Well, yes, West woiuld have liked to know if East controlled spades|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h3|nt|chick: fortunately, he has enough tricks in his own hand this time|pg||
nt|kareno: He can make this out of his hand.|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|cQ|nt|bjacobs: But, it looks like Helgemo didn't know either ... he just punted|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|s4|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|d8|nt|duschek: East had two options for getting into a cooperative auction, either 4@C after 3@C, or 4@D after 3@S, which would also agree clubs as trumps|pg||
mc|11|nt|chick: since the hearts were so friendly|pg||
pg||
qx|o46|st||md|4SQJ5H852DQ85CKJ92,S63HJ964DAKT2CA43,SA92HAKT73D963CT7,SKT874HQDJ74CQ865|sv|o|nt|santyclz: Tied the Board A Match for this session.|pg||
nt|frankaus: many "coaches" warn about bidding to 5 level so why wenture there is my point|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: EW had a bit of a discrepancy in the meaning of the 3@s bid.|pg||
nt|santyclz: Oops, no, I was giving the imp the wrong way.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Mixed raise vs. weak|pg||
nt|tarekr:  sry 13|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Mildred claime immediately.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: claimed|pg||
nt|tarekr:  forgot the overtrick:)|pg||
nt|sybarra: and we start over so to say |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: I'll bet there will be some discussion on those two boards.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: They are playing so fast now it is hard to keep up. :(|pg||
nt|ritong: chess players call that zeitnot|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: maybe german chess players do|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|tarekr:  Humm! surprised by 3@c bid|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
nt|sybarra: and you would bid?|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sK|nt|ybob: duck ...|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|d7|nt|chick: From 7 IMPs behind to 20 ahead, Westheimer has picked up quite a bit this quarter|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c5|nt|tarekr:  here is hand that goes down when 3NT is a make. 3@c showed no points at all|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|d2|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s3|nt|tarekr:  2NT|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|s7|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s8|pc|h8|pc|h9|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|c46|st||md|4SQJ5H852DQ85CKJ92,S63HJ964DAKT2CA43,SA92HAKT73D963CT7,SKT874HQDJ74CQ865|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfc: still 35 minutes on the clock however|pg||
nt|rv: what is panel's view, would Willard-Cronier and Auken-Von Arnim be in your top 5 ladies pairs in the world |pg||
nt|ritong: and five boards ahead|pg||
nt|tarekr:  YES!|pg||
nt|chick: 12 NTs off the top|pg||
nt|psyck: i knew we'd get exciting hands soon|pg||
nt|duschek: Sorry, West had...|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: no comment:)|pg||
nt|tarekr:  my vote!|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: 13 clubs or diamonds|pg||
mb|1N!|nt|ritong: reduce that to three and you get mine|pg||
nt|rv: yes in my view as well, both pairs might even be in top 3 in my book:)|pg||
nt|ritong: particularly auken/von arnim|pg||
nt|psyck: a tad more tricks in @d|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 3N can be hard to make|pg||
mb|2H!|an|Tx|nt|rv: :)|pg||
nt|chick: oops, only 7@D, not 7@C, sorry|pg||
nt|kareno: Likely to play in diamonds but the pressure is on with the spade suit.|pg||
nt|psyck: the typical problem with strong @c system, at 5 level you have to start bidding suits for 1st time|pg||
nt|chick: a couple of kibs are pointing out that there is a squeeze for 7C as well|pg||
nt|kareno: Right you are.  See you all later - have to run!!  Thanks to all :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|tarekr:  if in 3 naturally in 5 LOL|pg||
nt|psyck: yes, the @sT is a nice card to have in 7N|pg||
mb|p|nt|duschek: So 13 imps for Monaco, and the match is close once more|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: you get the drift|pg||
nt|chick: first they have to get past the 5 level :)|pg||
nt|xenya: on the @SQ lead|pg||
nt|bridge_one: good lead - many lead 5@S with that figure|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: yes, danger defense gets 2 spades 1 club, 1 diamond, 1 heart before declarer has 9|pg||
pc|hA|nt|duschek: A simple auction after a weak NT (12-14) this time|pg||
nt|ahollan1: some Q3 scores posted  Iceland lead over Fleisher down to 9  [was 42 at half]|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/spingold-round-of-8|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|rv: Henri likes dramatic effect as you would expect an artisitic frenchman:)|pg||
nt|chick: moot now :(|pg||
nt|xenya: very good, yes|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ritong: why thank you:)|pg||
nt|tarekr:  We must not forget Deas-Palmer|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Betting that @H2 is suit preference|pg||
pc|cT|nt|kit: now jack of spades continuation is winner, but is it so obvious?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: yep, and now this contract is under some pressure|pg||
pc|c5|nt|bridge_one: having A 10  and A J out correct the lead with Q|pg||
pc|c2|nt|kit: North has to win this and play a spade I believe|pg||
nt|bridge_one: A@D @S beat|pg||
nt|xenya: should be obvious after S's @S7 -- middle card from 3|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sT|nt|xenya: N knows S has the 9|pg||
nt|kit: Accurate defense no play now I don't believe|pg||
nt|kit: If declarer had won the first spade and gone after the red aces, the spade suit would have been blocked.  Should he have found that?|pg||
nt|xenya: also, as a few kibitzers have pointed out to me, declarer would have never ducked 1st spade wth AK9  |pg||
nt|xenya: thanks|pg||
nt|chick: perhaps he should "find it" as the best chance to make|pg||
nt|kit: But defense can counter I believe -- South unblocking 7 and 9 of spades|pg||
nt|kit: Well, maybe not -- then declarer ducks second spade|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|d8|nt|rv: this is tricky hand to play, crucial @d9 might bail out declarer here|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ritong: and some other american associations, yes  plus d ovidio and her part|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d4|pg||
nt|rv: best defense was @s back here|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|nt|tarekr:  I think there are at least ten outstanding women's pairs in the world. Hard to rank them|pg||
nt|ritong: right|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I think when partner leads an ace, and dummy tracks with a singleton, suit preference should be the key signal: not count or attitude|pg||
nt|tarekr:  A small come back for Monaco! This match should remain a nail biter|pg||
pc|c7|nt|duschek: It is not that clear. When you have no suit to signal for, you might wish you could just encourage|pg||
pc|c8|nt|rv: she could have postponed second @d since partner is unlikely to cash more than 2 tricks and doesn't have an entry to set-up and enjoy|pg||
nt|ritong: also, any sport is also a matter of form|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|d3|pc|c6|pg||
nt|jbgood: most experts prefer suit pref I guess|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d2|pc|s9|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|d6|nt|xenya: in the OR, N also led @SQ, but then fell out of grace by continuing with a small one|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|bjacobs: It is certainly not clear.  I made the point because I've seen articles/books where it's claimed you can do both, with very high cards, very low cards, medium cards, and I thiink ...|pg||
nt|bjacobs: that's usually rubbish|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o47|st||md|1SKJ5HT963D86542CJ,SQ42HK2DAKQTCKT43,SAT97HAQ7DJ7CQ985,S863HJ854D93CA762|sv|n|nt|tarekr:  I lost something on that one sry!|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s9|nt|santyclz: The got a bit overboard in the open room.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|santyclz: I would pass with the w hand.|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|stewball: zia chooses 2@h over 2nt|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|peachy: Making a wild guess that 3H forcing|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|nt|santyclz: Good rule for misfits:  Pass before the doubling starts.|pg||
nt|chick: :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Willard taking her time....|pg||
nt|tarekr:  critical move at this point|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Usually she is a fairly quick player.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  good thing they are not playin upside down on this hand|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s8|nt|frankaus: 4 imps to Hampton i expect|pg||
nt|ybob: friendly @D to win 3NT|pg||
pc|s5|nt|vugraphzfe: Looked like the Q from across the table.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: The connection might wink out of existance for a moment again. :(|pg||
nt|stewball: zia will do well to play @d not @s,,he has had a lot of tuff hands to play this set|pg||
nt|peachy: http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/spingold-round-of-8  Standings in all 4 matches will be available here shortly after set finished                 http://w...|pg||
nt|peachy: ww.bridgewinners.com/index.php/spingold-round-of-8|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|s7|pc|h4|pc|d6|nt|ritong: talking about wild guesses, mildred breed's bid other room was something|pg||
nt|fabsayc: another contract that should be doubled|pg||
nt|ritong: but she could expect better @ss|pg||
nt|tarekr:  well shae expected P tohave A@s of course|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|nt|santyclz: This isn't going to be a bed of roses with the 5-1 @S break.|pg||
nt|chick: probably won't be down 4 though|pg||
nt|santyclz: 2, maybe even 1...|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cQ|nt|chick: down 1 = 4 imps|pg||
nt|frankaus: next is the last in this set?|pg||
nt|santyclz: Yes.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: then why not blackwood|pg||
nt|tarekr:  looking at KQJ??|pg||
nt|peachy: http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/spingold-round-of-8|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h6|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Lost the play.  The contract was doomed.|pg||
nt|stewball: he wont go wrong now|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cA|nt|frankaus: tu all 4 your company - many interesting hands|pg||
pc|h3|pc|c3|pg||
pc|d3|nt|santyclz: This is the penultimate board (I think it says in our contract we have to use the word "penultimate".)|pg||
nt|stewball: voila|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|h9|nt|chick: in memory of mariner1 :)|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|hA|nt|frankaus: brb|pg||
nt|stewball: i think he was committed more or less|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg||
mc|4|pg||
qx|c47|st||md|1SKJ5HT963D86542CJ,SQ42HK2DAKQTCKT43,SAT97HAQ7DJ7CQ985,S863HJ854D93CA762|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfc: two more in this room|pg||
nt|rv: based on scores in last 3 brds, can't see too much opportunity for trailing team to recover IMPs|pg||
nt|chick: That hand has potential for a big swing|pg||
nt|psyck: kibs point out there cards wrong for squeeze|pg||
nt|bjacobs: and you should just have a simple agreement: suit preference, and damn the torpedoes|pg||
nt|duschek: Yes, it is hard to show more than one thing at a time when you only have two or three cards to choose from|pg||
nt|jbgood: yes - it is either or, cant have it both ways|pg||
mb|p|nt|tarekr:  2 more folks! We witnessed a certainly enjoyable contest!|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|rv: Joe, as per correct scores,Wesheimer trailing only by 16 rite?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: no 18|pg||
nt|rv: 1 less?|pg||
nt|tarekr:  143-125|pg||
mb|1D!|nt|Vugraphzfc: right|pg||
nt|ritong: not an everyday's auction|pg||
nt|rv: ok, this could end contest|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Westheimer has 1 fewer IMP than we are showing|pg||
nt|chick: yes, some pointed that out to me as well, the entries were not good enough|pg||
nt|duschek: So 4 more for Monaco, closing in indeed|pg||
mb|p|nt|psyck: entries would be fine on a minor suit lead though|pg||
nt|kit: Many pairs play this 2@H call as natural.  Either could work on any hand, but you better have solid agreements.|pg||
mb|1N|nt|tarekr:  Al mentions that the last set of this match was schedule to start ten minutes ago :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: mrs breed might get disappointed|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Quinn says "it's a first time auction for me, too"|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: Mildred could have checked for aces though it is best not to comment about Quinn's pre-empt |pg||
nt|ritong: well..|pg||
nt|ritong:  |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Mildredwas hoping for the spade ace, obviously|pg||
nt|psyck: still, NS can be happy that they only missed 7@d not 7N|pg||
nt|psyck: there was a confusion last set on this seq|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 3@H i suppose inviting in @S|pg||
nt|kit: If there is confusion here, E-W will be getting a very bad result in 3@H doubled|pg||
nt|duschek: 1ut=15-19, but could be a 4441 type of hand, though a balanced hand is of course much more likely|pg||
pc|sT|nt|duschek: 1NT=15-19, in case there are any English-speaking around|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Helgemo went 3 down in 1NT?   What is he, some sort of beginner?|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|chick: There are plenty of other bids to show the other two suits, a cue is not needed, so it only makes sense to keep it natural|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|bridge_one: pass by sementa instead 3@S becames GF|pg||
nt|bridge_one: mixed hand|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|nt|psyck: on non @s or @h lead, there would have been a criss cross squeeze for 13 tricks|pg||
nt|chick: well, the OR stopped in 5@D|pg||
nt|bridge_one: stronger would bid a cue |pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg||
nt|ritong: there will be a silence after that one|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Another suit preference|pg||
pc|d6|nt|bjacobs: maybe not|pg||
nt|warrens:  Helgemo found out that S had 4 black cards and finessed the 10 of @D's.  in the endgame, he was squeeze-endplayed.  it was terrific defense with reasonable choices by declarer.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: If West reads @D6 as an honest high card, he will make ... but is Nunes entirely trustworthy?|pg||
nt|duschek: Helgemo used the club entry for a diamond finesse, which is odds-on, a least a priori|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|nt|tarekr:  One must laugh rather than cry when the 2@s card hit|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d4|pg||
nt|warrens:  now I expect declarer to endplay N|pg||
nt|duschek: Yes, North will have a hard time finding discards on the diamonds|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Soon or later. Later rather than soon :)|pg||
nt|warrens:  I think he'll pitch one @C and one @H, then 3 rounds of @C's and he's dead|pg||
nt|bjacobs: That 4th round of diamonds is a killer for North ... he will have to pitch a card he wants to keep|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c7|nt|Vugraphzfc: Quinn apologizes for her undisciplined 2@S;  |pg||
nt|bjacobs: He still has to guess who has @HA?|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|duschek: So 6 imps for Bjarnarson - many exciting swings in this set, large and small|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s7|nt|duschek: Strike my last remark...|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Funny, the endplay only works if North has @HA|pg||
mc|6|nt|warrens:  ok, just 3 imps|pg||
nt|bjacobs: If South has it, declarer has set up 7 tricks for N/S by "endplaying" North|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 4 spades, 1 club, 1 heart and the long diamond with South|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Board 16 removed|pg||
nt|duschek: OK - thanks for watching and commenting everybody, kibs included|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 3 IMPS to NS|pg||
nt|sybarra: meaning bd 48?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yes board 48|pg||
nt|sybarra: cu shortly for contuniation |pg||
nt|sybarra: *continuation |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 5 imp match|pg||
nt|duschek: Bye|pg||
pg||
qx|o48|st||md|2SQ7HT974DT975CQ63,S853H532DAK862CKJ,SJT9HAKQ8DQJ4C842,SAK642HJ6D3CAT975|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfe: Last hand of the set.  Really enjoyable bringing this to you.  The atmosphere in|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: the room has been very cordial and relaxed.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Last of the set.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Last board of the match.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: A very wild set.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Well it never entered her mind that P would bid 2 with 6 to the T|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Last of the set, now.|pg||
mb|1D|nt|sybarra: thx to Ross |pg||
nt|tarekr:  there surely has been a lot of fireworks on this set!|pg||
nt|sybarra: and thx Tarek, for joining me |pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|an|4+!s|nt|Vugraphzfe: You are welcome Shirley.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  U r so welcome Shirley! I'll be back for set 4|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Thanks to the specs.|pg||
nt|peachy: Last hand on the set is upm the final set is scheduled to begin in about 25 minutes from now|pg||
nt|stewball: i'm not convinced that was % line but sure was successful|pg||
mb|2H!|an|weak raise|mb|d!|an|support|nt|sybarra: how soon back? |pg||
nt|sybarra: 15 min or so?|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Thank to all in the audience!|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Ur comments were very much appreciated.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: very soon.  Enough time to compare, and a small break.  15 minutes or so.|pg||
nt|stewball: i take that back,,i am convinced|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|chick: oops, I confuse easily, the 4 imps went to Hampton|pg||
nt|peachy: Thank you to our operator Ross in Toronto, to all commentators, and especially the kibitzers. Hope you all enjoyed.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: thanks to all|pg||
nt|ybob: thx all|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: It is a pleasure for me to do this. :)|pg||
nt|peachy: 2S might be invite with 5-4, I dont think it can be gf|pg||
nt|stewball: 4@h?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Some discussion between Zia and Welland....  They are also chatting about the|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: previous board.|pg||
nt|ybob: a clear 4@H by N|pg||
nt|peachy: Kibs say it could be Smolen.  Some play Smolen on the 3-;eve; GF, some have other agreements.|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: Many thanks to our excellent vugraph operator Ross :)|pg||
nt|ritong: punchy double|pg||
nt|fabsayc: last board now, congratulations to hampton team who played well especially in final set, and thanks to our operator Ross for keeping us aware of all developments|pg||
nt|puncher99: ok hope u enjoyed the match folks and fellow commentators and operator|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|hQ|nt|Vugraphzfe: Thanks all for your comments and compliments. It has been a fun session.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  May be they did not let Shawn bid|pg||
nt|peachy: Thanks all, especially specs for their participation|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Thanks all.  This has been a very interesting session. :)|pg||
nt|tarekr:  thank you Ross and all friends and specs|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Welland: "We have no agreement." (2@s call)|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|frankaus: b|pg||
nt|sybarra: well that is some bid! |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Director call.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Breed may feel there was some UI in the auction.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  5@s showed 2 w/Q and 4@c showed 5@c with 2/3 top honors|pg||
nt|sybarra: and the unauthorized was what?|pg||
nt|tarekr:  2/3 top honors or better|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: They are discussing....|pg||
nt|tarekr:  This is part of Jacoby 2NT structure|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Not too sure what the issue is...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: EW think the auction is over.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Breed claims it isn't and that she was just rearranging her pass cards on the tray.|pg||
pc|hA|nt|Vugraphzfe: Too busy typing -- I missed who took that trick.|pg||
nt|sybarra: someone should smack this |pg||
nt|tarekr:  only 12 tricks in 7NT|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s2|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|ritong: von arnim feeling better now|pg||
nt|ritong: and soon much better|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s9|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Hamman had the @d 2 out to play several times  but puts the card back.|pg||
pc|sK|nt|frankaus: bye  4 now|pg||
nt|santyclz: Thanks all, bye for now.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Quick hand.  3rd quarter starts at 8:00|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg||
nt|peachy: bye, play resumes in about 15 min|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|nt|ritong: claiming +790|pg||
nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg||
nt|puncher99: thx all|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Bye all. and thanks.|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|c5|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dQ|nt|sybarra: was there a rush for the ace?|pg||
nt|tarekr:  i don't think so|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d9|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|s8|pc|c8|pg||
pc|d6|mc|10|pg||
