vg|2011 SPINGOLD SF,Segment 1 of 4,I,1,16,Monaco,0,Fleisher,0|
rs|4SN=,4SN=,3NW=,2HN-1,2NW-2,2NW-2,3NE+1,3NE+1,2CW=,2CW=,4SW+1,5HNx-4,3NN=,3NN=,4HN-1,4SEx-3,4HS=,3HS=,4SW-1,4SW-1,3NW+1,4HE=,6HS=,6HSx=,4SE=,6SE=,6CN=,7NS=,3SW=,3DN-1,2HE+3,3NW+1|
pn|Helgemo,Weinstein,Helness,Levin,Kamil,Multon ,Fleisher,Zimmermann|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SKQ4H753DJ2CQ7642,S72HKQT92D543CA93,SAJ853HJ4DAKQ7CKT,ST96HA86DT986CJ85|sv|o|nt|athene: NS are natural, 5-card spade, 4-card heart - one of the least scientific of the top pairs|pg||
nt|Walddk2: N-S with 5 spades, 4 hearts, 4 diamonds and 3 clubs, strong NT|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|nt|athene: not too much interest here on the likely diamond lead - at MP declarer might fiddle around trying to steal some overtricks|pg||
nt|brolucius: A gentle flat board to open proceedings, one would imagine. |pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1@H for N-S only four cards if 44xx or 3433|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3SKQ4H753DJ2CQ7642,S72HKQT92D543CA93,SAJ853HJ4DAKQ7CKT,ST96HA86DT986CJ85|sv|o|nt|chick: Hello everyone :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Same line-up as the previous set.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: nice easy game to get warmed up|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: The table just getting settled after discussing systems with the opponents.|pg||
mb|1S|nt|puncher99: welcome back folks|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|roswolf: a straightforward 4@S|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|santyclz: Hi folks.|pg||
mb|p|pc|dT|nt|roswolf: A GENTLE INTRODUCTION INTO THE MATCH|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|Vugraphzfe: Hi all.  same lineup in this room as the second quarter.|pg||
pc|d3|nt|peachy: Hello everybody, final set of the Wagar Womens KO Teams from Toronto|pg||
nt|sybarra: welcome Raija  and Glenn |pg||
nt|peachy: Hi Glenn|pg||
nt|puncher99: HI all|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and we expect the margin of victory to be under 10 imps|pg||
nt|peachy: For those interested, history of this event http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagar_Women%27s_Knockout_Teams|pg||
nt|puncher99: 9th trick is going to be hard to get here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: it will fall from the sky in diamonds|pg||
pc|sK|nt|sybarra: a few imps to make up for Hampton but no panic|pg||
pc|s7|nt|Vugraphzfe: Hi Shirley.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pg||
nt|sybarra: Ross :) |pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|nt|gambit: Welcome all to the quarter-final of the Spingold, nail-biting final session |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Welland is deep into the tank.  He is a 'fast' player, so him taking this time is not|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: usual.|pg||
nt|gambit: 6@D is a good spot, and with KD onside, a great one |pg||
pc|s5|nt|fabsayc: actually 10 tricks on layout should be par|pg||
nt|peachy:  Click http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  OR  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/   to watch more than one vugraph table (without logging in)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: cant work out any possibility apart from 10 tricks|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d5|nt|vugraphpl3: witam wszystkich. to ju¿ ostatnia sesja siódmego kongresowego turnieju w S³awie :)|pg||
nt|gambit: I was just at the playing site, Kibitzed another match, Iceland, raced home|pg||
pc|sA|nt|peachy: NS def signals UDCA and Smith|pg||
nt|sybarra: xyz :) |pg||
nt|sybarra: sorry not a comment on the bidding |pg||
nt|puncher99: needs to play hearts now|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|gambit: next bid, 6@D?|pg||
pc|cK|nt|sybarra: welcome Tarek |pg||
pc|c5|nt|tarekr:  Hello to evryone! Welcome!|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Bramley and Welland cofirm that they were on the same wave-length in the|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: auction.|pg||
pc|c2|nt|vugraphzfe: *confirm*|pg||
nt|gambit: to all those asking about the auction, I imagine 1NT some sort of game force, followed by a series of relays and artificial answers|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: There was also an Ace ask in there.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other tables are visible without login via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|puncher99: must play ace|pg||
nt|puncher99: spade there was the coup de gras|pg||
nt|ahollan1: today both matches ARE playing the same boards!!!|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cJ|nt|sybarra: she knows the @D q not dropping |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Lost the play here, people.  Sorry. :(|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4SJ832HKJ9DK8752C7,S965HA52DQT6CAQ65,SKQ4HQT876D3CJ943,SAT7H43DAJ94CKT82|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|athene: good imps line of play there - telling opps they can have two hearts and their @CA|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|athene: declarer can hold up twice in hearts but then south may find the spade shift|pg||
nt|athene: it might not be trivial for him to lead a spade, though - leading from J8xx round to A10x is very often going to be costly|pg||
nt|athene: perhaps north should overtake the @HJ and stick the @SK on the table|pg||
nt|brolucius: If declarer can read the hearts as 4-4, he can win and set up the diamonds.|pg||
pc|h3|nt|athene: of course both defenders will fear declarer has more in spades than he does :)|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg||
nt|athene: north can see there is no future in hearts though|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d4|nt|brolucius: Norwegians usually play 3rd and 5th leads, so the lowest spot-card lead in hearts could not be from a 4-card suit.|pg||
nt|athene: whichever minor declarer has to develop, he can do it without letting north in|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|athene: i guess the heart continuation was simply a safe play as much as anything|pg||
nt|athene: with the outside chance of getting in via a spade|pg||
nt|athene: @SK lead isn't going to cost - if declarer has the jack he has two tricks anyway|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Sigurbjörn Haraldsson from the Iceland Bermuda Bowl team|pg||
nt|bessi2: hi all|pg||
nt|brolucius: With 12 opposite 12, it would be possible in a normal match that the other table might stay out of game. Not likely here, though.|pg||
nt|athene: well, it's not going to cost a trick in the suit - i suppose it might give away a tempo|pg||
nt|athene: hi good evening|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|h8|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4SJ832HKJ9DK8752C7,S965HA52DQT6CAQ65,SKQ4HQT876D3CJ943,SAT7H43DAJ94CKT82|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfe: Ok  Now we are live. :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not quite the way i envisioned it|pg||
nt|peachy: just 1 IMP in, could have been a game swing|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|peachy: or out, depends on one's view :)|pg||
nt|puncher99: friendly lie of cards for NS if they can  get to the heart suit|pg||
nt|peachy: EW play strong club and weak NT |pg||
nt|peachy: Welcome back to this Quarterfinal match from Spingold|pg||
nt|ybob: Hi all|pg||
nt|roswolf: 10-13 nt nv|pg||
nt|odysseus69: wiill north/south get ito the action?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: French law used to forbid sans a tout weak|pg||
mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|santyclz: Nice @s "low".|pg||
nt|fabsayc: redouble is supposed to show a five card minor|pg||
nt|fabsayc: here it may help NS find hearts|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Extended notes between South and West....|pg||
nt|peachy: Hi|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Greetings to all.|pg||
nt|roswolf: e/w miss a game but you can see why on the hcp|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @H + @C/@D|pg||
nt|roswolf: will north regret that bid|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 2H -hearts and minor is the toy of this decade|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: we may play it here|pg||
nt|gambit: still make 5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that's been around since 1980s   an entire millenium ago|pg||
nt|roswolf: sizeable gain for team USA|pg||
nt|odysseus69: cards friendly for 2 hearts|pg||
pc|h4|nt|odysseus69: its popularity is more recent-|pg||
nt|odysseus69: best lead|pg||
pc|h9|nt|puncher99: tough to find hearts now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: was it really west who bid 2@H??|pg||
nt|gambit: 6|pg||
pc|h5|nt|peachy: Is this real|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Yes it was.|pg||
nt|peachy: Thank you operator/Ross|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|chick: NS have more points than EW, about time they stuck their nose in|pg||
nt|ybob: 2down in 2@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh maybe for rest-of-world   in USA  it was a battle of who got the credit  Cappelletti or Hamilton|pg||
pc|s2|nt|santyclz: Brave balance on that suit.|pg||
pc|s5|nt|gambit: nice Q@D and 1/2 a club stopper that just truned into a full one|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|fabsayc: there will be a director at this table soon|pg||
nt|rodal f: Sr for interrupting once. Sport by high level.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|nt|santyclz: 3@c?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: That's the bid.|pg||
pc|h2|nt|Vugraphzfe: I don't know what the 2@h means, but there was a lengthy conversation between|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Westheimer and von Arnim at the time.|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|santyclz: Seems more likely n would bid that...|pg||
nt|chick: a hand to pass out :)|pg||
nt|peachy: West had enough, understandably.  She knows NS on shaky ground, doesnt need much math to figure that|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|nt|vugraphzfe: This should be a fairly quick table.|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
nt|sybarra: mnight need the spade shift whoon |pg||
nt|gambit: push, next one |pg||
pc|s4|nt|tarekr:  Back down 25. They say we have a hard time finding minor suit slams in America. Obviously not so!|pg||
pc|sT|nt|vugraphzfe: At least, so far it has been.|pg||
nt|peachy: Bramley Welland def is UDCA, o/e first discard only|pg||
nt|ybob: after KQ@S + A@D on N, S has A@C and KQ @H|pg||
nt|ybob: clear to declarer ...|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zia is taking his time on this.|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|fabsayc: now spade nine|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not at all obvious of course, but you need a miracle|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|s8|nt|tarekr:  this does not look like fun for EW|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c7|nt|peachy: now has to avoid 2 club losers|pg||
nt|peachy: doable but does he have info on where ace is?|pg||
nt|ybob: he plays 3 rounds @D and home after N shows only 3@D|pg||
nt|ybob: later ruff @S ruff next @D with 8@C and win|pg||
nt|ybob: because J@C on N|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Welcome to John Stewart|pg||
nt|stewball: hi everyone|pg||
nt|ybob: hi|pg||
nt|peachy: Hi John|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zia pulls out  a card then folds his hand.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|nt|peachy: Would declarer have stranded spades on purpose if she had two of them?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Perhaps she is depending on Qx of @hs in one hand.|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|puncher99: she must b|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well auken played 10 first round, causing the confusion|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|d9|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|odysseus69: do they want the credit ?|pg||
pc|dT|nt|vugraphzfe: Had to double check that trick :)|pg||
nt|stewball: elegant but doomed|pg||
nt|stewball: zia is long on elegance|pg||
nt|ybob: declarer need 3/3 @C so N showed 5@S 2@H what wrong with play QJ@D and another @D ?|pg||
nt|stewball: its not clear what this line catered to ,other than elegance|pg||
pc|hT|nt|peachy: since they missed the heart fit, it really does not matter what happens on this hand|pg||
nt|stewball: well at least theres not as much at stake given the OR result|pg||
nt|stewball: i have a feeling Hamman doesnt think this hand is worth 20 minutes of his life|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
nt|odysseus69: flier for e-w in open room|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|d5|nt|Vugraphzfe: One miracle down how many to come?|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
mc|7|nt|ahollan1: Fleisher Team will be USA1 at the 2011 Bermuda Bowl this fall in Veldhoven, The Netherlands|pg||
nt|roswolf: a solid 7 imp tp fleischer|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zimmermann claims for Fleisher.|pg||
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qx|o3|st||md|1SKJ7H42DT2CJ98642,SA83HKQT98DAQCKQ3,SQT654HA3DKJ64CA7,S92HJ765D98753CT5|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: Levin-Weinstein in the USA1 team for the BB in the Netherlands in October|pg||
nt|brolucius: Anyway, a splendid board for E/W - with every chance of a big swing.|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: 2nt opener from west might end proceedings|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: In fact, the full Fleisher team here *are* USA1 in October|pg||
nt|bessi2: unless Leven tries to improve the partscore|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|nt|athene: if playing a form of puppet where opener will often bid 3@D, then you might try that|pg||
nt|bessi2: this is a rather unelegant contract but perfectly normal sequence though|pg||
nt|athene: declarer will knock out the heart and have to find two pitches on the spades|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|brolucius: A contract of 2NT passed out goes down around 70% of the time, which is why some players say you should always double in the pass-out seat. Even when declarer has 21-22 points at ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: his disposal, it is difficult when you always have to play from your own hand.|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|athene: given that he has to throw one heart anyway he might as well throw two, to keep all the clubs?|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|athene: you can get into some interesting game-theoretic situations if people "always" double 2NT in the passout seat|pg||
nt|brolucius: Indeed.|pg||
nt|athene: responder might start passing 2nt with some values|pg||
pc|s8|nt|brolucius: In real life, you would never dare to rely on the 4th player doubling.|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|brolucius: North could signal suit preference on the 3rd spade, but he hardly needs to with that hand!|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|athene: i think you throw @HK10 on the spades|pg||
pc|d5|pc|c6|nt|brolucius: Helgemo will soon kick himself for not doubling.|pg||
nt|athene: but then north can exit a heart|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|s5|pc|d7|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
nt|athene: helgemo has given count on the hearts|pg||
nt|brolucius: Helness did in fact play his middle spade on the third round (which would show diamonds, if a true card). Not that there was much chance that his partner would gain the lead, when ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: he was so strong.|pg||
nt|athene: helgemo might not know if it's two hearts or four, though - declarer might have attacked hearts from @HKQx|pg||
nt|athene: in which case you don't want to lead ace and a club|pg||
nt|bessi2: but then he wouldnt have pitched a heart nor would declarer|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|c2|pc|hK|pg||
nt|athene: heart exit has to be right|pg||
pc|hT|nt|bessi2: agreed|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h7|nt|athene: now throw two diamonds and you are guaranteed two down unless declarer started with the bare @DA|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg||
mc|6|nt|brolucius: An 'easy 500' missed by South, there...|pg||
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qx|c3|st||md|1SKJ7H42DT2CJ98642,SA83HKQT98DAQCKQ3,SQT654HA3DKJ64CA7,S92HJ765D98753CT5|sv|e|nt|tarekr:  As expected perfect defense|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: If the hands are going to be like this it is going to be as looooong evening.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: A bit remarkable in that Hamman never says much at the table.|pg||
nt|ybob: calm 3NT here|pg||
nt|gambit: Tarek, congrats on your second place finish with Zia |pg||
nt|ahollan1: not sure about Monaco -- the 3 pairs have moved from other countries and there is some politics involved|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: What?  Politics in bridge?|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|sybarra: they tried 4 @S in other room on bd 33 for the save|pg||
nt|roswolf: a natural 2nt missed the @H fit in the other room|pg||
nt|odysseus69: Multon certainly conservative there - maybe mini NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: 10-13|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: A practical rubber bridge bid.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: vul 2N=20-21|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: not a friendly layout |pg||
pc|s5|nt|fabsayc: can this be a canape?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is coming from the Convention Card they used in 2008 at Beijing|pg||
nt|roswolf: this wont be fun to play|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|Vugraphzfe: Both sides of the screen writing explanation of this sequence.|pg||
nt|gambit: sorry|pg||
nt|gambit: spade through |pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|peachy: Welland-Branley system nnotes say thi:    We are pretty aggressive and imaginative, so we might show up without the shape or strength that we have promised at any time.      Expect ...|pg||
nt|peachy: excitement during the match, at some point|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in college we professed that after 2N-P-P   DBL was automatic|pg||
pc|s8|nt|ahollan1: it made for some interesting  double-cross situations|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes i did a few times and if my defence had been good enough......|pg||
nt|odysseus69: same in our sanitorium|pg||
pc|s4|nt|santyclz: Must have been shortness rather than a minimum.|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|tarekr:  should easily come to ten tricks.|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|nt|gambit: squeezing declarer|pg||
pc|sT|nt|santyclz: Let me take that back, n could easily go opposite a minimum with such good controls out of the suit.|pg||
nt|chick: yes, but still they are probably too high|pg||
nt|rodal f: A lot of cards are placeded now after S bid.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: :)   that's the place Victor!!|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|stewball: would welland open 2@h on KTxxx?|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|santyclz: It didn't show a "subminimum".|pg||
nt|peachy: First seat favorable, I wouldn't put it past him, don't know though|pg||
nt|peachy: I have seen interesting actions in the past|pg||
nt|stewball: well the K convinced zia that he might apparently|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Didn't notice where Zia won that one.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: When the cards start flying at this table, they do so very fast.|pg||
nt|stewball: he;s likely to lose a couple on this defence|pg||
nt|ybob: declarer can play small, J@S and @S to K if @S are 4/2 play next @H and squeezed N later|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|d5|nt|roswolf: this looks likely to be a push|pg||
pc|h4|nt|santyclz: I'm told they play Ogust, in which case 3@c was "bad hand" "bad suit", surely an accurate description.|pg||
nt|chick: but she still went on to game?|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Barnet Shenkin|pg||
nt|barnets: hi all|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi barnet|pg||
nt|ahollan1: both pairs use relatively standard signals|pg||
nt|odysseus69: should pitch 2 hearts -not that it should help|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|peachy: An old CC for Arnim- von Auken says "Canape style with longer minors but neverl onger majors" so Martin got it right|pg||
pc|s6|pc|d7|pc|c4|nt|ybob: same after J@S and K@S |pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|ybob: :)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: hi Barnet|pg||
nt|barnets: Hi victor|pg||
nt|odysseus69: heart must be right|pg||
pc|h3|nt|rodal f: wd|pg||
pc|h6|pc|c2|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|h8|nt|ybob: now with @S 4/2 play  9@H ...|pg||
pc|d4|pc|hJ|pc|c6|pg||
nt|santyclz: It's makable double dummy, run the q then ruff a @d.|pg||
nt|stewball: why|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d2|nt|vugraphzfe: sorry about that.  red cards looked similar|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c5|nt|odysseus69: well done|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|nt|stewball: curious|pg||
nt|ybob: run @H N is squeezed @S and m|pg||
pc|dT|nt|santyclz: Ah she has enough entries to ruff the @d later.|pg||
nt|chick: well, guess her play matched her bidding :)|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c3|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|odysseus69: to tie board|pg||
nt|ahollan1: interesting [to me] tidbits from the Round of 8 [Quarter Final]   -  3 of the 8 teams were originally seeded outside of the top 8|pg||
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qx|o4|st||md|2SKHAJ43DAJ843CJ83,SA42HKQ87DK6CAQ72,S987653HT5D975CT9,SQJTH962DQT2CK654|sv|b|mb|1C|nt|athene: some chances for EW to do better in the other room|pg||
nt|bessi2: unless they can scramble their way into 3@h for 140|pg||
nt|athene: more chance with strong club|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|nt|brolucius: The old text-books used to say that 1NT shows more in response to 1@C. That's because on 6 or 7, you can introduce a new suit or raise the clubs, whatever your shape. |pg||
nt|bessi2: the cards are sitting very pretty for declarer on this hand|pg||
nt|brolucius: A kibitzer points out that the Precision and Standard auction are the same, which rarely happens after a strong 1@C.|pg||
nt|brolucius: West might bid Stayman, I suppose, facing a 1NT response. |pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|brolucius: Declarer unblocks the @C7, to create an extra entry in the club suit.|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|brolucius: Because he may want to lead both spades and hearts from the East hand.|pg||
pc|dK|nt|brolucius: Or reach the @DQ.|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2SKHAJ43DAJ843CJ83,SA42HKQ87DK6CAQ72,S987653HT5D975CT9,SQJTH962DQT2CK654|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfe: Indeed.|pg||
nt|santyclz: Oh we of little faith...|pg||
nt|sybarra: e/w want some exciting bds |pg||
nt|sybarra: or ones they can score on |pg||
nt|rodal f: If @H was 3-2|pg||
nt|stewball: well thats for 3|pg||
nt|ybob: if S run 2 @H tricks ...|pg||
nt|stewball: he had 9 on top|pg||
nt|ahollan1: all 3 were 4-man teams|pg||
nt|ahollan1: all 3 were leading after 3rd Quarter|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NONE are in the Semi-Finals|pg||
mb|1C|nt|fabsayc: the last hand was won and lost in bidding, not the defense|pg||
nt|ybob: now of ocurse with @S 3/3|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ybob: course|pg||
nt|gambit: Geoff Hampson and John Diamond won a pairs event this afternoon|pg||
nt|odysseus69: obvious message- dont come 4 handed-good spot Al|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|fabsayc: not sure why 6@H was down 3, is certainly a reasonable contract|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|puncher99: even if u opn lite thts real lite vul|pg||
mb|p|pc|d4|nt|odysseus69: we wont be on edge of seats for this one|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Today is quite a contrast from yesterday....  Today we are in a room alone.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that's why ACBL allows same boards in both matches -- no issues with security|pg||
pc|d6|nt|santyclz: There are currently 4 vg tables running, to watch multiple tables:  www.bridgebase.com/mobile  Open 1 browser window/table.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well .....  fewer/different security issues|pg||
pc|d9|nt|Vugraphzfe: I'm sure it is best if I concentrate on just one table. :)|pg||
nt|chick: this should be easy with all the black honors favorably placed|pg||
nt|santyclz: A spec points out that if s passes and n opens 1nt s might like her 6-4 enough to push to game.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: normal for them in strong club|pg||
nt|rodal f: U find the other table bu the BBO vug TV: http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and they have the tools to stay low when needed|pg||
nt|gambit: We all play 2s promised 13 cards and little else|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
pc|h2|nt|fabsayc: still if my partner opens and i hold east hand, we are not stopping below 6|pg||
nt|stewball: zia was about to take 9 bramley gave him 12|pg||
pc|h3|nt|gambit: look at the hair-raising balance....|pg||
pc|hK|nt|tarekr:  2@S? trying to catch up?|pg||
nt|stewball: 3@h|pg||
nt|stewball: welland might try 3nt |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Bobby Levin is taking a stroll around the room as someone turns dummy for him.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Obviously they must be playing different boards.|pg||
nt|peachy: They do, actually, so no security probs|pg||
nt|gambit: Note Hamman didn't get carried away with 3nt |pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Both sides alerted the call.  I though it was worth putting it in.  :)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c4|nt|santyclz: But in the other room after a 1nt opening s settled for 2@S.|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|Vugraphzfe: von Arnim alerted 5 @cs -- Auken did not.|pg||
nt|rodal f: They are on for a helty contract, but @H a bit ugly this time.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: she cant alert what she has not seen|pg||
nt|puncher99: i dont know about the 4diam bid   If i havnt shown 2n round club control  im not helping pard with 4 diam bid|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c7|nt|Vugraphzfe: Some discussion between Quinn and Willard.  I think it is about the 2@s call|pg||
pc|s5|nt|chick: Then it's a good thing she managed to make it|pg||
pc|cK|nt|fabsayc: wow, lucky for westheimer 5 goes down|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: As usual, I am about half a round behind in the posting of the auction.|pg||
nt|rodal f: 4@D=que|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Today we don't have the "vigorous discussions" at the other tables to deal with.|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|stewball: i think this is a big position by welland,he doesnt need much for game|pg||
nt|tarekr:  13 cards with at least three trumps we hope!|pg||
nt|odysseus69: sq now|pg||
pc|sK|nt|peachy: NS open most 11 point hands so in that context, he had more than slight extras|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c2|nt|stewball: 3@h could have been a punt with scatterred usefullness|pg||
pc|d7|pc|c6|pc|d3|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h4|nt|vugraphzfe: Zimmermann leans over the table when studying the dummy.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: safe to play q|pg||
nt|barnets: Zimmerman played Fleisher in a final just more than a year ago when Zimmerman won with a slightly differant squad|pg||
nt|odysseus69: count complete|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg||
nt|barnets: It was the vanderbilt|pg||
pc|s2|nt|tarekr:  someone told me it showed min with 4@s|pg||
pc|s7|nt|vugraphzfe: Some pairs would forego the trump requirement. :)|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Cam was complimenting the famous Tarek Sadek earlier|pg||
pc|sT|pc|d8|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3SQ2HKQ87DK9864CT4,S84H6543DTCAQJ832,SKJT93HT9DQJ3CK96,SA765HAJ2DA752C75|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Imagine how physically fit these players must be, to play in championships that last for so many days.|pg||
mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r|mb|2C|nt|brolucius: In the Good Old Days, it would have been unthinkable to see a bridge player in a gym.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Few people believe it but I actually go to a training session for 1 hour a week. I spend the rest of the week staring at one screen or another, it is true.|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|nt|Walddk2: Staring at your wife is out?|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
nt|athene: when Iceland won the world championship (1991?) i believe part of their training regime consisted of running up and down mountains|pg||
nt|brolucius: A kibitzer doubts that such as Meckstroth is physically fit. However, it is difficult to stay mentally alert for such long periods unless you are in fairly good shape.|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|nt|athene: certainly top chess players pay a lot of attention to physical fitness|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
nt|brolucius: It's the same with those players who think they can drink a beer or two and still play top-class bridge. I don't think so! |pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg||
nt|bessi2: you had to mention that William... it's what I and the team have to look forward to :)|pg||
mc|8|nt|Vugraphzfg: Break now|pg||
nt|athene: most bridge players' idea of a strenuous physical workout is sitting east-west|pg||
nt|athene: but maybe that is changing :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: A kibitzer queries why 2@C should be weak. I imagine that East's double showed 3-card heart support, and 2@C offers another place to play.|pg||
nt|brolucius: A kibitzer asks the origin of the word... yes... 'kibitzer'. Does anyone know?|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  An officious annoying person who interferes with others|pg||
nt|Walddk2: or  a meddler who offers unwanted advice to others|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is a Yiddish word, apparently. meaning 'watcher'.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Or more accurately, I am told: A kibitzer is a non-participant who hangs around a game, offering (often unwanted) advice or commentary. This Yiddish term is used in Contract ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: bridge, Chess, Go, and many other games.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfg: Back|pg||
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qx|c5|st||md|3SQ2HKQ87DK9864CT4,S84H6543DTCAQJ832,SKJT93HT9DQJ3CK96,SA765HAJ2DA752C75|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfe: yes I did misclick that but the claim is +2.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  which, looking at the hand does make sense|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the usually slow men are 3 boards ahead of this match|pg||
nt|ybob: was better 3NT, only down 1|pg||
nt|roswolf: rehi all|pg||
nt|odysseus69: hi geoffrey|pg||
nt|odysseus69: will north bid 1S -for sure|pg||
nt|odysseus69: sorry- thot he was 3rd|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is unclear|pg||
nt|odysseus69: weak NT |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Waiting on Zimmermann's bid.  N passed.|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: the plus score for fleischer in the other room is probably v good|pg||
mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: mini NT    weak = 12-14    modern=14-16  strong = 15-17  monster = Roman 18-20|pg||
mb|p|an|2 !ss|nt|rodal f: N hard to stop but W have a nice sac.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: If they keep inventing auctions like this, then it will be a long session.|pg||
mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: not sure what to call 13-15    intermediate??|pg||
nt|roswolf: support double position!? after 1@S|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d!|an|Support|nt|puncher99: feels like a 4diam bid is better|pg||
nt|rodal f: Sr. Been interesting. Need to go back where I shall be. See u later.|pg||
nt|puncher99: ok bye|pg||
nt|fabsayc: south hand has improved to point 4@S bid seems right|pg||
nt|peachy: Quinn in other room bid 4D instead of 3|pg||
nt|puncher99: pard is usually 65 on these colors|pg||
nt|gambit: Thames...naw, bench player, not enough pop to play everyday |pg||
nt|odysseus69: he decided against 1NT -presumably planing to raise major|pg||
nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
mb|r!|an|2 !ss|nt|chick: choosing to ignore the spade suit worked out ok this time|pg||
nt|stewball: chunky weak 2|pg||
mb|2C|nt|ybob: on a good day win 6@D, cold if no @S lead|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zia's turn to check out Levin's table.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: i like to forget i have hearts with West and respond 1NT suggesting clubs|pg||
nt|roswolf: IDENTICAL AUCTION AS OTHER ROOM SO FAR|pg||
nt|roswolf: rdbl showing HX in spades|pg||
nt|barnets: xx shows 2 spades|pg||
nt|roswolf: ah not quality then!?|pg||
nt|barnets: so North may compete|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: suit pref by bramley|pg||
nt|barnets: missed part score n/s|pg||
nt|roswolf: this should be a push as well|pg||
pc|hT|nt|peachy: We can be fairly sure it is not S who is hesitating|pg||
nt|barnets: with spades and diamonds both making|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg||
nt|puncher99: lol|pg||
nt|gambit: just look at that opener, Al Roth would be apopletic|pg||
pc|h9|nt|sybarra: and spades break nicely here  |pg||
nt|sybarra: but can she handle 4 @S?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|nt|santyclz: 9 top tricks in nt, sometimes preempts work.|pg||
nt|peachy: :)|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Q@C onside is big help|pg||
nt|tarekr:  however it will still depend on how she handles @c's if she has to do it herself|pg||
nt|stewball: or not|pg||
nt|barnets: diamond ruffs can beat 2@S|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|casenjo:  on the road to making 5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|nt|vugraphpl3: przepraszam za przerwê. kto urwa³ kabel od internetu...|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|nt|tarekr:  here we go|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pg||
pc|h6|nt|gambit: 8@C  builds into a winner soon enough |pg||
pc|c9|pc|s5|nt|puncher99: cant b wrong to ruff it and cash the spade|pg||
nt|casenjo:  well 4 now|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|tarekr:  home free even with @d ruff|pg||
nt|ybob: why not ruff @C to 11 tricks ?|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|casenjo:  I don't know, that was my play|pg||
nt|tarekr:  I agree with you Cam.|pg||
nt|gambit: marrooned in the dummy...yikes|pg||
nt|tarekr:  about Al Roth|pg||
pc|dA|nt|casenjo:  I was a little surprised|pg||
pc|d4|nt|gambit: he has to play a heart, but then what?|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Good morning to Frank Budai|pg||
pc|c7|nt|vugraphpl3: licytacji niestety nie widzialam|pg||
nt|frankaus: g'day all|pg||
pc|cT|mc|8|nt|santyclz: Welcome, Frank.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Short break for Zimmermann and Fleisher.|pg||
nt|barnets: flat boards so far|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Now Multon and Kamil have left the room.|pg||
nt|barnets: 6-5 cayne in other match after 9 boards|pg||
nt|barnets: with same hands|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 6 is leading|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Everyone returning....|pg||
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qx|o6|st||md|4S87HKQJ93D96CA752,SAQT654H7DJ754CJ6,SJ93HA654DQT2C983,SK2HT82DAK83CKQT4|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: Yiddish is a dialect of High German including some Hebrew and other words; spoken in Europe as a vernacular by many Jews; written in the Hebrew script|pg||
mb|1N|nt|brolucius: Kibitzers expect to know EVERYTHING, including which of these 4 is holding us up by smoking. Of course, I have no idea - as usual. |pg||
mb|2D|mb|4H|nt|brolucius: Whether it is against the Laws of Bridge to hold up 700 people, just to suck in a few poisons - I do not know.|pg||
mb|d|nt|athene: east might try to let his partner play the spades now|pg||
nt|athene: to protect maybe @HKx or something like that|pg||
mb|r!|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|athene: ok, so redouble says "you play it"|pg||
nt|bessi2: or maybe avoid a singleton lead from south.. after all he is more likely to hold a singleton if any|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Good point, Bill.|pg||
pc|hA|nt|brolucius: And a worthwhile idea for others to use in their own bidding. |pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s7|mc|11|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4S87HKQJ93D96CA752,SAQT654H7DJ754CJ6,SJ93HA654DQT2C983,SK2HT82DAK83CKQT4|sv|e|nt|frankaus: 1 or 2@S by Quinn?|pg||
nt|tarekr:  back hampton only down 4 imps. 4@s went down at other table|pg||
nt|peachy: Hampton creating distance, but still 10 boards to play|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Bart is the most deliberate player at the table, but this was the first hand that he|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: showed it.|pg||
nt|gambit: Will Hamman open, yes|pg||
nt|odysseus69: They are going at twice our speed- and I am committed for 8.30 gmt so lets gee them up here|pg||
mb|1N|nt|roswolf: looks a flattish bd again|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 15-17 vul|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not sure if they play a form of Texas Transfer|pg||
nt|odysseus69: its only a question of how long until 650|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if so -- most play it thru interference of 3@C|pg||
nt|roswolf: south will bid heart related and west will show his spades etc|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so responder can jump to show either major|pg||
mb|2D!|mb|4S|nt|santyclz: Probably have votes for 1, 2, 3 and 4.|pg||
nt|frankaus: 4@S :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: West sure looks like a hand where you'd want partner to declare via transfer|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: I guess they don't use Texas transfers in Monaco.|pg||
nt|roswolf: is north tempted by the colors to sac?|pg||
mb|5H|nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: making it a close match again |pg||
nt|peachy: Limited 1H (strong club)|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|nt|gambit: why not 2NT forcing |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|chick: 3@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphpl3: wyniki na ¿ywo http://www.kongres-slawa.pl/2011/k7.html|pg||
nt|frankaus:  needs a @C switch to set it|pg||
nt|tarekr:  interesting NT but 2@d would be NMF probably|pg||
nt|gambit: woops|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Both sides writing something about the 3NT call.|pg||
nt|barnets: looks like800|pg||
nt|odysseus69: was 2D a transfer or single major- think north expected 6 hearts|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: Kamil was treating his hand as 1-suiter   2@D is 1-major|pg||
nt|roswolf: south 's distribution will be disappointing for declarer|pg||
nt|barnets: not much of a save|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but only costs 4 imps|pg||
nt|barnets: North really hoping e/w go on to 5@S and be down|pg||
pc|d6|nt|gambit: nice to know that.....must be a system tweak by their coach .. :)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: someone I know says when pd does this -"if you want to save go to the bank"|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
nt|peachy: As N, I wouldn't know what to lead against this auction|pg||
nt|tarekr:  2NT is forcing indeed. It gives P a chance to complete his pattern.|pg||
nt|barnets: thats nice|pg||
pc|sK|nt|casenjo:  nowhere for tricks to escape to, looks like only 9 tricks here|pg||
pc|s7|nt|peachy: but maybe H regardless of opening|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
nt|tarekr:  The coach is watching I think! :)|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|frankaus: sorry @D|pg||
nt|santyclz: 1 0 2 1 |pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|fabsayc: spade queen or jack|pg||
pc|h3|nt|tarekr:  looks like goin at least d1|pg||
nt|tarekr:  better contract at other table 2@h|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg||
nt|tarekr:  everything laying out so nicely.|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|nt|odysseus69: so much for my "quick 650" - now its dead slow 800|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: although west hand a mystery heart lead liable to give a trick|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d4|nt|stewball: 14 much needed imps to nickell on 36|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: defence tryinf for -1100|pg||
nt|roswolf: we know that isnt feasible|pg||
nt|roswolf: east doesnt|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we're at least 4 boards behind all other tables|pg||
nt|roswolf: mind you he might be asleep:)|pg||
pc|s2|nt|sybarra: more interference at the other table |pg||
pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|cQ|mc|7|nt|roswolf: really!?|pg||
nt|roswolf: next|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: They were mucking their cars at the end, but the claim is down 4.|pg||
pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1SJ74HK3DJ874CQ762,S92HQJ6DKT53CT853,SAK85HA872DAQCKJ9,SQT63HT954D962CA4|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|athene: what will Levin lead against 3NT?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: some go for a heart from that hand, others a spade|pg||
pc|s3|nt|brolucius: If I am allowed to say so, without a visit from the Marlboro lawyers, it seems reasonable to spend 2 hours not smoking during a bridge session when you may have to spend 10 hours ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: or 12 hours in a plane doing the same.|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|bessi2: depends on whether you're feeling passive or aggressive I guess|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h4|nt|bessi2: yes. but travelling on a plane is a pain in the  $ , while playing bridge should be enjoyed :)|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg||
nt|brolucius: A heart lead is better than a spade, I expect. I have just finished writing a book on computer analysis of opening leads against NT and a lead from a 4-card suit headed by one or ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: two honors is rarely best against this auction.|pg||
pc|c9|pc|d6|pc|cQ|nt|athene: only nine obvious tricks but he could have got another one by squeezing weinstein i think|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
nt|brolucius: A lead from an A, K or Q costs around half a trick, on average, and there is relatively little prospect of setting up long tricks in exchange when you have only a 4-card suit.|pg||
nt|athene: hmmm i doubt all that happened|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1SJ74HK3DJ874CQ762,S92HQJ6DKT53CT853,SAK85HA872DAQCKJ9,SQT63HT954D962CA4|sv|b|nt|fabsayc: 4NT should have gone down a lot more, par is a minor partial, surely reachable|pg||
nt|gambit: The coach noted it was 15-17 2@D and 31H....|pg||
nt|gambit: sorry 2@S and 3@H|pg||
nt|roswolf: ok thx|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: *cards*|pg||
nt|roswolf: another dull game|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|frankaus: 13 availablr in the round suits 4 Quinn|pg||
nt|peachy: This is one the poorer 15 counts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2@D transfer or multi?|pg||
nt|puncher99: prob 1 suited major|pg||
nt|peachy: Their old card says 2D is onesuiter H or 2-suiter w spades|pg||
nt|peachy: I dont have a fresh one at hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2N=20-22|pg||
mb|2N|nt|odysseus69: no obvious saves so surely a quickie 3NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|tarekr:  Alas interference is not always "bon"|pg||
nt|peachy: likely not much change, but just guessing|pg||
nt|fabsayc: here we go in fantasy land again|pg||
nt|puncher99: wht does 3c mean?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Well, it certainly isn't dull.|pg||
nt|peachy: 3C tends to me, to confirm what I said about 2D. E has spade support in case partner had 2-suiter with spades|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: 3@c alerted on both side.  No explanation asked for or given.|pg||
nt|peachy: EW play Flannery so 1S should promise 5|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: Disa asking questions now.|pg||
nt|gambit: I hope we don't have another painful auction here|pg||
nt|gambit: nope, quick and painless|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: now....|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Put to the guess at trick 1....|pg||
nt|gambit: the odds favour the 10|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Other tables are a bit noisy.  Seems there are some lively system discussions:|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: not in English...|pg||
nt|gambit: Declarer didn't get here with just his charming personality, very tough, but he will go with the odds|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zia annoyed at the distraction|pg||
nt|gambit: the room (I was just here) is samll, it was silent when I was there, so i assume he should be annoyed|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Welland has his head in his hands, rocking back and forth in the chair.|pg||
nt|gambit: I love those details....thx |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Now he puts on his glasses to study dummy.  Not even close to playing a card.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zia and Hamman are sitting like statues.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Here we go:|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: Seems only fair.  EW have been bidding N's suits.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Valerie does a double take at the bidding when the tray is passed to her side of|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: the table.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this could get very ugly to play, 4@H is better|pg||
nt|peachy: 4H should be off 1 on the spade lead so in that light, 4S is not much worse|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@H is making double dummy as several spectators have noted|pg||
nt|ybob: 3nt is the best spot from E than W|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Minutes of boredom interspersed with seconds of furious action.|pg||
nt|roswolf: nice quote ross:)|pg||
nt|barnets: Declarer just has to lead a spade towards the J for his ninth trick|pg||
pc|s3|nt|peachy: Perhaps it is|pg||
nt|odysseus69: that doesnt hurt|pg||
pc|s4|nt|frankaus: nice auction so far|pg||
pc|s9|nt|ybob: now  p p p|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|frankaus: now will quinn move?|pg||
nt|gambit: switch tables and peek and report back|pg||
pc|cK|nt|santyclz: 6@d?|pg||
nt|chick: certainly hope so|pg||
nt|santyclz: Yes!|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: I just report them -- I don't make them up.|pg||
nt|santyclz: I wasn't arguing, I was recommending.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: :)|pg||
nt|ybob: 10@C save the hand|pg||
nt|ybob: to 11 tricks|pg||
nt|ybob: cold 10 anyway|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|nt|fabsayc: if i double 4@S i double 5@H as well, and for sure when trailing|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|tarekr:  a good auction|pg||
nt|tarekr:  and a good lead|pg||
nt|peachy: Westheimer getting some needed IMPs now, making the match all the more interesting|pg||
pc|s6|nt|barnets: He has to make a diamond for his 8th trick and we see the @SJ for his ninth|pg||
nt|odysseus69: that doesnt hurt|pg||
pc|s7|nt|Vugraphzfe: By her gestures, it seems North is a bit surprised by the auction.|pg||
nt|frankaus: somewhat fortunate layout will see a quick 13 claim|pg||
pc|s2|nt|puncher99: u want them to cover always lead the big one off  the table|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|barnets: had East not persisted with spades dec would not have it so easy|pg||
pc|d4|nt|peachy: Attitude opening leads in NT for NS|pg||
nt|gambit: push|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Lost Welland discards...|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|nt|chick: still need good heart break|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|gambit: no|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: After Zia cashed, the claim came quickly.|pg||
nt|gambit: in the same room, a different operator at the other table, he has his hands full here|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|h6|pg||
nt|roswolf: while everyone appreciates the desire for accuracy the players need to speed up to make this a true spectator sport|pg||
nt|odysseus69: all the menaces are n wrong position- best is spade and give East a chance to go wrong|pg||
nt|barnets: he has 9 sure tricks now-- l|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: The directors have warned the players in earlier rounds about slow play.  If they|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: actually do something besides warning is another question.|pg||
pc|h7|nt|puncher99: 9 imps for Westheimer team|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now 6 boards behind|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|tarekr:  on @d play one lied one did not!|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|fabsayc: mind you there wont be any penalties since final final set|pg||
nt|odysseus69: seeking an overtrick- and a slow one|pg||
pc|d5|nt|frankaus: now only 12|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|nt|tarekr:  she decided to trust Mildred|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|odysseus69: i claim 9 tricks- next|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg||
nt|roswolf: a few mins more|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2SJHQJ85DT85CAQJ53,S8753HAT43DQJ6C87,SAK42HK972D43CK92,SQT96H6DAK972CT64|sv|o|nt|athene: ok, 9 tricks seems reasonable|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: three rounds of diamonds here and west should get two trump tricks|pg||
pc|dA|nt|athene: declarer can't find out about the break in time to finesse|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|d7|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SJHQJ85DT85CAQJ53,S8753HAT43DQJ6C87,SAK42HK972D43CK92,SQT96H6DAK972CT64|sv|o|nt|santyclz: Nice tight match going on here.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Quinn: "It's an easy game.  We make it complicated."|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Val: "Disa, what was 3@s?"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Disa: "Obviously the minors."|pg||
nt|fabsayc: making 2, not down 3|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Nickell chipping away at the lead.|pg||
nt|roswolf: another push|pg||
nt|roswolf: some meat here perhaps|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Discussions in French and English.|pg||
nt|roswolf: play not talk is required|pg||
nt|odysseus69: the force is with the defence|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|nt|fabsayc: it is only minors if explanations same on both sides of the screen, which i doubt they were|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: It has been a very strange set so far.|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Yes, this seasoned team is very patient|pg||
nt|casenjo:  We will not see them swinging from the trees, they will grind it out|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@C=2+  includes all balanced hands   3=3=5=2 gets to choose 1@C or 1@D|pg||
nt|roswolf: why are we waiting!/ another comfort break?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: These players are, er, "deliberate".|pg||
mb|d!|nt|ahollan1: DBL=4+@H|pg||
mb|2D|nt|peachy: spared a mess, if EW did not ask.|pg||
nt|barnets: yes 3 rounds of diamonds will beat this contract of 4@H|pg||
mb|2H|an|4 !hs|nt|roswolf: snails have more purpose|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H=4@H  [support dbl would show 3]|pg||
mb|2S|nt|sybarra: oh oh,  @H lead and this is down |pg||
nt|odysseus69: gib says 4H cold but he is allowed to lean over and pick the heart suit|pg||
mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|frankaus: now will plaay in @S  3 or 4?|pg||
nt|gambit: Drury, named after a Canadian who got tired of Eric Murray's weak 3rd seat openings|pg||
nt|barnets: now dec has just a small chance to guess the heart suit|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|roswolf: now this contract WILL take a LONG time|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  no, he owns a company|pg||
nt|odysseus69: the phantom strikes again|pg||
mb|p|nt|casenjo:  long story, will explain later, working now|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|gambit: reverse Drury, 2S = minimum|pg||
nt|kareno: Was Drury Canadian?  The story is 100 percent true and the openings were just what you'd expect :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: slowly strikes again|pg||
nt|barnets: this board will not be over quickly|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Connection winked out of existance for a moment.|pg||
pc|s8|nt|ybob: declarer duck 2 rounds and home after play @H´s to 9 tricks|pg||
nt|roswolf: i fancy 2 off but anything could happen in the next half hour:)|pg||
pc|sK|nt|frankaus: re|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Hi Karen|pg||
nt|gambit: Douglas Drury, and a real gentleman, was Eric's long time pard before Sami |pg||
pc|h2|nt|tarekr:  The Amercan system in particular is not conducive to minor game contracts|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Smoke break.|pg||
nt|sybarra: do they have to go way outside or something nearby?|pg||
nt|tarekr:  they played from the N at other table and no @h lead|pg||
nt|sybarra: not sure what the 1 @H bid was |pg||
nt|sybarra: 1@H was alerted as "3+@Hs"   |pg||
nt|sybarra: at least didnt get a @H lead  |pg||
nt|tarekr:  it was alerted but I don't know either. Ross do u know how 1@h was explained|pg||
nt|sybarra: explained as 3 + @H I am told|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Well, I'm back.  Shawn and Mildred are back.  we are just waiting on the French|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: contingent.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  It surely was magic here.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: ...and now we are all back...|pg||
nt|barnets: Dont like 2@S bid which caused trouble|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Half hour?   Optimist. :)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
nt|odysseus69: barnet becoming very kind- in your younger days you would have called it obscene- im my older days I have started with the ful description- its obscene|pg||
nt|barnets: bidding 4@S with A10xx in hearts also strange I think with such a flat hand|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|barnets: old age brings moderation in criticism|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
nt|frankaus: another hand where 3NT is better |pg||
nt|odysseus69: he was bidding to make not to save -|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Director in the room.  No comment as yet about the pace of play.|pg||
pc|d2|nt|barnets: So East takes most of the blame but west has some responsibility|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dQ|nt|kareno: I'm really surprised after the redouble that Hamman wouldn't bid on.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kamil giving count in @D really helps Fleisher|pg||
nt|roswolf: declarer may lose control now|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|roswolf: -3!?|pg||
pc|h4|nt|gregpog: witam wszystkich|pg||
nt|gregpog: www.kongres-slawa.pl|pg||
nt|vugraphpl3: wyniki na bie¿¹co http://www.kongres-slawa.pl/2011/k7.html|pg||
nt|gregpog: fotoreportaze: http://www.pzbs.pl/component/content/article/6-wydarzenia/924-kongres-sawa-2011-fotoreportae|pg||
nt|puncher99: low spade there might of worked|pg||
nt|fabsayc: auken will elope with 8th trick, so really did not care about establishing a spade winner|pg||
pc|h9|pc|sT|pc|h8|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg||
nt|roswolf: i see the other room is on bd 13 - a late dinner for us uk commentators:(|pg||
nt|barnets: lot of pairs play x of 1@D shows 4-4 in majors|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3S532HKT32D83CAKJ6,SAJ9864HQDJ2CQT94,SKTHAJ96DA9765C83,SQ7H8754DKQT4C752|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 2NT is a relay, at least invitational values|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: I was about to say that many experts think that a game-try is beneath them. But Helgemo proved me wrong.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 4@H maximum within the minimum range and four-card support|pg||
nt|brolucius: Do they use Support Doubles?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Fair evaluation with five controls and @SK over West|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes David|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|bessi2: interesting lead problem.. @c lead or a @h  would be the most attractive choices to me|pg||
nt|brolucius: So South knew of four-card support. Needed a bit extra.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Weinstein did well to avoid a club lead|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hK|pg||
nt|Walddk2: At least Helgemo knows hearts are 4-1 now|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|h4|nt|athene: he will also be fairly sure the @CQ is off|pg||
pc|h2|nt|Walddk2: Zia led a club on basically the same auction in the other semi-final|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h9|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer cannot ruff too many black cards in the dummy, so he aims to set up the diamonds.|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Apologies to Zia; Versace led a club *against* Zia|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|athene: if he can make the @H3 with a diamond ruff he has a high crossruff|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|mc|10|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3S532HKT32D83CAKJ6,SAJ9864HQDJ2CQT94,SKTHAJ96DA9765C83,SQ7H8754DKQT4C752|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfe: Connection problems.|pg||
nt|puncher99: dont u hate it when someone bids ur 6 card major  in front of  u?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Taking a short break.  Fatigue has set in and people are getting a bit edgy.|pg||
nt|barnets: and if this is case how can e/w play spades at 4 level|pg||
nt|roswolf: good comment barnet|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Director suggests that they pick up the pace.|pg||
nt|roswolf: is he being polite or sarcastic!?|pg||
nt|barnets: this x was hearts only|pg||
nt|odysseus69: i think they play transfer responses over 1C|pg||
nt|barnets: so was bad comment|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Polite -- a bit annoyed, but polite.|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl3: ostatnie 2 rozdania turnieju|pg||
nt|frankaus: 2@H 4@H?|pg||
nt|kareno: Perhaps ... but the redouble was loud and clear.|pg||
mb|1H|nt|peachy: 1C  =  either natural or balanced 11-13/17-19/18-19 HCP; the balanced version can contain a 5 card major, especially with 17-19 HCP.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  How LOUD Karen:)|pg||
mb|1S|nt|kareno: I heard it all the way to my B&B in Chinatown in Toronto!|pg||
nt|gambit: another lovely opener from S.....|pg||
nt|roswolf: naturellement|pg||
mb|2H|an|4 pieces|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 3nt is horrible but better than 3@S|pg||
nt|peachy: apparently this hand fell in between the cracks|pg||
nt|gambit: all pass|pg||
nt|odysseus69: i have learned something here- I am even worse at making predictions than I thought|pg||
nt|barnets: 8 boards in 1 hr and 40 mins|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: Zia slapped down the pass card.  I don't know if that was Zia being Zia or whether|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: he is annoyed about the previous board.|pg||
nt|roswolf: they are playing with screens ?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yes|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: There is no known cure for the Commentators' Curse, Victor.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so are the tables that are 5/6 boards ahead|pg||
nt|roswolf: true:)|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|santyclz: Oh my!|pg||
nt|chick: Mildred is sitting there holding her breath|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: wow that stopped abruptly|pg||
nt|ahollan1: actually   i think 3@C was supposed to be game force|pg||
nt|roswolf: i guess north didnt like his black cards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or maybe just 1-round force|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Indeed.  I'm a bit surprised, but then, we are looking at 52 cards.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 3H is surprising -good controls despite minimum |pg||
pc|dJ|nt|gambit: wow, Bart must not have seen too many of Roy's openers|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|nt|kareno: Why should they go down when we can go down?|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|gregpog: :):):) Zapraszamy na jutro - na godz. 15.00  -ostatni przekaz BBO z tegorocznej Slawy|pg||
nt|santyclz: She survived it.|pg||
nt|frankaus: Willar rescues  Quinn|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|nt|chick: so a push|pg||
nt|chick: in the other room, Wolpert went up with the @SA at trick 1|pg||
nt|santyclz: It could have been from a doubleton, Breed concealed the 3.|pg||
nt|ybob: well E-W win 10 tricks on @C|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
nt|puncher99: can almost make 3n|pg||
pc|s3|nt|roswolf: the norsemen powered there in the other room|pg||
pc|sA|nt|vugraphzfe: Welland: "All that for me?  Score!"|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|nt|vugraphzfe: Some discussion N/S about the auction.|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|tarekr:  Need to set it 3 to push the board|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|roswolf: i should hope so|pg||
pc|dK|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg||
nt|gambit: maybe down 4...|pg||
nt|kareno: Spec asking what about a penalty double.  Well, Hamman announced a lot of spades and a weak hand.  That's enough to deter Zia.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|h3|mc|9|nt|odysseus69: good stop they may think|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Kamil: "Good stop, the way I play."|pg||
nt|roswolf: the line of play was not good for 10 tricks|pg||
pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SJ4HAJ85DQT643C54,SAT52HQ62DK5CAK63,SQ96H73DAJ987CQJ7,SK873HKT94D2CT982|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|brolucius: The 7 IMPs for Fleischer arose on the deal where E/W bid 3NT on 12 opposite 12, early in this session.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|brolucius: Another aggressively bid game, with East's game-try very forward.|pg||
nt|athene: a loser in each suit unless something goes awry|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Too aggressive this|pg||
nt|Walddk2: @DK is wasted but that is not desperately unlucky|pg||
nt|brolucius: What would East have bid over a 2@D response, one is tempted to ask.|pg||
nt|athene: 2@H i imagine|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 2@H to get out in a 4-3 major fit|pg||
nt|Walddk2: That was Garozzo's initial concept|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 2@H on that auction a sign off with 4-4 in the majors|pg||
nt|brolucius: Sometimes they open 1NT on 2-2-4-5 nowadays. |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Don't is all I can say|pg||
nt|athene: what is declarer's best chance here?|pg||
nt|brolucius: You would think he would breathe a sigh of relief when partner responses in a major and taken his profit in 2@S.|pg||
nt|athene: hope the lead is singleton?|pg||
nt|bessi2: that or QJ tight in @s|pg||
nt|Walddk2: @SQJ doubleton and guess @HJ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sA|nt|athene: if @SQJ or lead was singleton, you are ok|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
nt|athene: what chances are there for a misdefence?|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|athene: no rush to run the @C10, is there?|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|d6|pc|s2|pg||
nt|athene: i guess he wanted to cash the clubs and then exit a spade|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c9|nt|athene: hoping north would win and be endplayed, or think he was|pg||
pc|d4|nt|brolucius: When you have to decide whether to make a borderline game try, you should bear in mind that partner may well stretch to accept it when a vulnerable game is at stake. As indeed he ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: did on this deal.|pg||
nt|athene: 3@S does look a bit forward, given you are ahead of the game from having bid 2@c in the first place|pg||
nt|athene: 4@S will only be good when partner has little wasted in diamonds, and in that case, spades will be so much better than notrumps anyway, you might already be gaining 6 imps|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|brolucius: In general, you need one player to make an accurate limit bid and the other one to decide whether to stretch or not. Otherwise you can have the situation where both players stretch ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: at the same time.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s8|mc|9|pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SJ4HAJ85DQT643C54,SAT52HQ62DK5CAK63,SQ96H73DAJ987CQJ7,SK873HKT94D2CT982|sv|b|nt|santyclz: Dodged a bullet on this one.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Well that hand wasn't terribly exciting.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: We are back.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ybob: 2@H p 3@H 3@S p ... now ?|pg||
nt|gambit: how about 3imp swing based on a silly opener|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Welland: "Sorry, p, I should have opened a @c.  Better fit."|pg||
nt|gambit: wow|pg||
nt|roswolf: the french may stay low here|pg||
mb|p|nt|tarekr:  They do fly the cards at the end of the hand!|pg||
mb|1N|nt|santyclz: Hefty nt.|pg||
nt|chick: If she goes up with the @SA, then she needs either the @DA onside or the @HK onside.  Better odds than the finesse.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|Vugraphzfe: A somewhat normal auction.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|tarekr:  still a 2imp loss for Westheimer|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: warned by bad breaks Zia may fly low|pg||
nt|kareno: The spade suit is not a source of tricks - Zia knows that.|pg||
nt|kareno: GMTA.|pg||
mb|4S|nt|tarekr:  4@s and 3@h for NS|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Director: "you have 38 minutes for 7 boards."|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Lost the play with the directors in the room.|pg||
nt|peachy: dont worry, we all appreciate your tableside observations!|pg||
nt|gambit: EOK? Was 3@C conventional?|pg||
nt|roswolf: but the lure of the vul game bonus willpush them there|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: GMTA = Great Minds Think Alike!|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: as someone pointed out, in the other room, W overcalled a spade on bd 25, makes the decision at trick 1 very easy|pg||
nt|gambit: Ty CC |pg||
nt|barnets: Cayne gained 6 imps for stopping in 3@S here when nickell bid 4|pg||
mb|p|nt|odysseus69: same bidding-same result maybe or 2 down|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|barnets: Versace passed 1N|pg||
nt|roswolf: my first bridge teacher would say you dont have the hcp therefore stay low - she would be right here|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|nt|tarekr:  what a lead!|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|barnets: Lauria passed 1N opener|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|nt|santyclz: The play won't take as long as the bidding.|pg||
pc|sK|nt|tarekr:  that's better|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|ybob: only A@S and @D defeat it|pg||
nt|stewball: hamman echoes in trumps likely indicating a ruffing potential|pg||
nt|ybob: and with 9@H too|pg||
nt|stewball: i expect they dont trump signal routinely|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Hamman did play the 2 and then the 3|pg||
nt|stewball: sorry my bad,,i thot he echoed|pg||
nt|stewball: perhaps he should have:)|pg||
pc|s3|nt|chick: 4@D probably some kind of pseudo-splinter|pg||
nt|chick: perhaps showing certain aces, we don't have their system card here|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: In any case, Zia did not get that message.|pg||
nt|kareno: Thanks specs for the jokes but I can't follow it all :)|pg||
pc|s4|nt|barnets: and then n/s competed up to 3@S|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sT|nt|peachy: I think the message was the H9|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Possibly, though we will probably never know.  Hamman does not post-mortem at|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: the table.|pg||
nt|peachy: I was also guessing, I hoe I made it clear it was a guess|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|gregpog: ide do szafy - gdzie jest film??|pg||
pc|s7|nt|barnets: the second session in this match will start quite late|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|gregpog: wyslij mi na maila|pg||
nt|roswolf: VERY late|pg||
pc|dA|nt|gambit: Yes, GF raise a la Jacoby |pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|gregpog: sorry - priv :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Welland amused when he first saw dummy @ss|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h4|nt|vugraphpl3: dziêkujê wszystkim. |pg||
nt|vugraphpl3: jutro godzina 15 ostatni przekaz. |pg||
nt|vugraphpl3: wyniki http://www.kongres-slawa.pl/2011/k7.html|pg||
nt|vugraphpl3: info http://www.kongres-slawa.pl/|pg||
nt|ybob: nice J @S|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c5|nt|odysseus69: now only 1 down|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|nt|vugraphzfe: Claim was making 5.  It has been corrected.|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c9|mc|9|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1SJ96H7DKQ5432C932,SQT83HA9DAJ6CAJT5,SA42HKT643D87CQ84,SK75HQJ852DT9CK76|sv|o|mb|2D|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|nt|brolucius: East shows five hearts with a transfer response and then offers a choice of games.|pg||
nt|bessi2: Weinstein will duck this and then there is a question which Major he will go for|pg||
nt|athene: it's a big play to finesse against the @H10 (ace and run the nine)|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg||
nt|athene: people tend not to commit themselves to a low card being onside so early in the hand|pg||
nt|athene: it's usually better to set up some sure tricks and fiddle around|pg||
pc|s6|nt|bessi2: that will solve all of declarer's problems|pg||
nt|brolucius: By ducking the first diamond, declarer ensures that he breaks communications between the defenders in that suit. |pg||
nt|athene: well, this makes declarer's life easier|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfg: Wein: attidude?|pg||
nt|athene: but i guess on those occasions when the game could be defeated, the spade shift was the way to do it|pg||
nt|athene: Helgemo perhaps thinking back to board 2 :)|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|athene: this play in spades is the standard way to gain a tempo if you think north has all the strength|pg||
nt|athene: imagine if north has @SAJ9x|pg||
nt|brolucius: If Helgemo did have a side entry, it was open to him to play low on the first round of diamonds, forcing declarer to use up one of his stoppers.|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s4|nt|athene: he has to win this but he can't continue the spade attack|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg||
nt|brolucius: If North then won an early trick, he could return his second diamond while South's entry was intact.|pg||
nt|athene: diamond exit and declarer can play @DJ, @DA, @S8 squeezing Helness|pg||
nt|athene: so he shouldn't have to guess the @CQ|pg||
nt|athene: heart might work better? declarer can play low but then the suit is blocked|pg||
nt|athene: (helness DOESN'T play the king, of course)|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|nt|bessi2: ace and another @h looks normal now|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s8|nt|bessi2: if the Q holds then diamond finesse and pass the 10/J of @c.. only losing if south had 3361 with stiff Q|pg||
pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|dJ|nt|Walddk2: Same deals in both matches. Cayne 6-5 against Nickell in the other semi-final after 9 boards|pg||
nt|athene: now Helness has to throw one club and one heart?|pg||
nt|bessi2: and when Helgemo shows out on @h then 100%|pg||
nt|athene: if he throws two hearts declarer just crosses to the @CK and exits a heart|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|dA|pc|c4|nt|athene: now declarer still has to guess the @CQ|pg||
pc|h8|pc|d5|pg||
nt|bessi2: ?  why didn't he pass the clubs at that point... I don't understand.. am I missing sth.. wasn't that 100%|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg||
mc|10|nt|athene: yes run the @CJ while you have the diamond stop|pg||
nt|bessi2: that was weird|pg||
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qx|c11|st||md|1SJ96H7DKQ5432C932,SQT83HA9DAJ6CAJT5,SA42HKT643D87CQ84,SK75HQJ852DT9CK76|sv|o|nt|santyclz: Couldn't find their cc, USWBC system summary:  http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=799&pid=94|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Misclicked.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zia apologizes for not giving Hamman his ruff.|pg||
nt|stewball: so far a fairly sloppy set|pg||
nt|kareno: Thought so :)|pg||
nt|tarekr:  My Kibitzer thought so too!|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|Vugraphzfe: Quinn: "I didn't fly al the way to Toronto to 'pass'".|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: *all*|pg||
nt|odysseus69: maybe a quickie with yet another comfortable 3NT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: weak 2@D was NOT available to Kamil|pg||
nt|barnets: playing multi I think|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|santyclz: Willard Cronier cc:  http://www.jcbl.or.jp/nec2006/cronier-willard+notes.pdf|pg||
nt|kareno: Won't make enough clubs.  Will they try 3nt?  Diamond will kill that contract.|pg||
nt|gambit: what can S do? 2NT seems the least of evils |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Welland has already bid.  It is Zia who is thinking.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=4+@H|pg||
nt|odysseus69: well as the cards lie -there is plenty to do before 9 tricks|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|chick: good hand bad suit?|pg||
nt|frankaus: if they could show the @S splinter feature then Breed may be tempted|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Breed deep in thought....|pg||
nt|frankaus: some use their Jacoby  - responses after 2M - 2NT|pg||
nt|chick: From North's point of view, she only needs the @HA and a side K to be in slam|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: It's not every auction where you can rebid your @ds at the 1 level.|pg||
nt|puncher99: good hand for xx neg bid of 2h|pg||
nt|fabsayc: danger lurking|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: I do my best to give an idea of what is happening in the room.|pg||
nt|gambit: against clubs yes, against NT, not clear|pg||
nt|swanson: 3@H by Bramley, 3NT by Zia.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 1NT 15-17|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well  2@D opener always weak 2 in @H or @S     i don't call that multi  but most of world does|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|sybarra: LOL |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: ...as a second suit...|pg||
nt|fabsayc: my thought too, they have had trouble in past with 2@D waiting|pg||
nt|fabsayc: pass should be automatic|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|frankaus: here we go  nicely done|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: val passed with a good deal of reluctance.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  57:They r in 6@h in the other room: Big swing|pg||
nt|gambit: Bart "right-sided" the lead!|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 2D is checkback|pg||
nt|ahollan1: would any of you bid 2@D over the 1@D transfer response?|pg||
nt|barnets: someetimes has a thirr 4th meaningsoriginated in UK in early 70c|pg||
nt|barnets: seventies|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: I am afraid I would open the hand 1 @D |pg||
nt|sybarra: it's not a reverse for me |pg||
nt|kareno: Right sided it for the lead.  East would have to magic up a diamond lead which I doubt he will.|pg||
nt|gambit: Zia now sihing he bid 3@D|pg||
nt|gambit: wishinfg|pg||
mb|2S!|nt|chick: lots of ideas from kibs ... 4@S kickback?  4@D last train?  my guess is 4@D shows both minor suit aces|pg||
nt|sybarra: meaning 1 @C then bidding 1 @D or 2 1d |pg||
nt|tarekr:  me too! however she apparently was prepared to rebid 1NT|pg||
nt|sybarra: 2 @D |pg||
nt|puncher99: i dont see making 6 from either side|pg||
nt|ahollan1: are you sure about 2@D?  could also just be re-transfer|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with 2@C as "checkback"|pg||
nt|barnets: looks as if 2@D starts a game force|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: If I can interpret Zimmermann's gesture to Fleisher -- I think it means forcing for 1|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: round.|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: Right you are.  |pg||
nt|ahollan1: we don't often get to see the combination of transfer responses to 1@C in context of Weak NT|pg||
mb|3S|nt|frankaus: almost :(|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Bailed out at the last moment.|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfe: Explanations on both sides of the screen.|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|stewball:  awkward even with trumps splitting|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|gambit: This is a family program, but your are & %$ $  right...|pg||
pc|dK|nt|kareno: lol|pg||
nt|gambit: WD Bart...|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zia shaking his head....|pg||
nt|gambit: Why open a club vs a diamond?|pg||
nt|kareno: Notrump preparatory?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: whatever the bids meant -- the sequence sure generated a swing|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: hand gestures as bidding explanations are sometimes confusing.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other match with 1 to score    Nickell leads Cayne by 1|pg||
nt|roswolf: this will be a nasty punishment for a convolut4ed sequence|pg||
nt|odysseus69: it was the 2 spade bid - he should have bid 3D |pg||
pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg||
nt|odysseus69: maybe he can make this|pg||
nt|roswolf: if west denied 3 hearts wuhich he must have done with his pass of the double then east should just bid 3nt|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
nt|roswolf: ti am told the all-seeing one says he can but i bet he doesnt|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h9|nt|tarekr:  Raising to 2@s was certainly an option for Sylvie here|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|d2|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zimmermann: "oops!"|pg||
nt|roswolf: i am always prepared to be proved wrong however|pg||
nt|odysseus69: now i fancy him- ie i fancy his chances|pg||
nt|barnets: he should make it now|pg||
nt|barnets: scoring his @H8 in the end game|pg||
nt|roswolf: needs to pick the spades!?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zimmermann get fidgety when he is thinking.|pg||
nt|barnets: actually hard to go wrong now|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Another director visit.|pg||
nt|roswolf: foaming at the mouth!?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: spade to king - diamond to jack  - ace of diamonds.....|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: This time he sits down -- probably to monitor the situation|pg||
nt|barnets: he can play spades or clubs|pg||
pc|s3|nt|barnets: and make|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg||
nt|chick: at least the other table didn't bid it either, lost opportunity but not lost imps|pg||
pc|c8|nt|fabsayc: can make 5 on squeeze and throw in|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg||
nt|odysseus69: getting back to your question Al- i would not venture 2 diamonds - but I am known conservative -not keen on giving pealties once they have both got a bid in|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dA|pc|c4|nt|barnets: pitch his club|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Multon urges his partner to get on with it.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: what else|pg||
nt|barnets: and @CA|pg||
nt|barnets: claim|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|c9|pg||
nt|roswolf: position is clear|pg||
nt|ahollan1: many make the transfer response with 13 cards and the right number of cards in the promised major -- that's why i wondered if some would get it quickly with 2@D|pg||
mc|10|nt|barnets: good recovery from horrible bidding|pg||
nt|ahollan1: too right |pg||
nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
nt|odysseus69: kibitzers stand up and applaud|pg||
nt|roswolf: or boo|pg||
nt|ahollan1: lose board-a-match  but lucky push at imps|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Fleisher takes a break.|pg||
nt|roswolf: next or is the director reading the riot act|pg||
nt|ahollan1: end of Q1    Cayne 21  Nickell 16|pg||
nt|roswolf: there are 5 bds to play - this is getting ridiculous|pg||
nt|barnets: Zia's table finished a while back the 16|pg||
nt|odysseus69: big pressure here from SWMBO|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Director has accompanied Martin to the facilities, but I suspect a word or two will|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: be said upon his return.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: our match may never see end of Q1|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Multon is not happy about the bidding and expressing his frustration in French.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: and they said test match cricket was slow|pg||
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qx|o12|st||md|2SAQTHKQJT75DT965C,SJ743H9863DJ7CAT5,S5HA42DAQ432CKJ64,SK9862HDK8CQ98732|sv|n|nt|athene: that was all a bit weird|pg||
nt|bessi2: i guess all those days of playing is taking its toll.. |pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|brolucius: More annoying for N/S this way.|pg||
mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|3C|nt|Walddk2: Good slam now|pg||
mb|4H|nt|athene: EW might sac in 6@S|pg||
mb|4S|nt|athene: west surely is never letting opps play slam now|pg||
mb|6H|nt|Walddk2: That will be mighty expensive on repeated heart leads|pg||
nt|brolucius: South is worth 6 already, but may consider the tactics. No, he just bid 6.|pg||
nt|bessi2: to be fair. I've been praising Weinstein a lot,  he has played superbly when I've watched him.. and he certainly has earned one inaccurate play, and still made his contract which ...|pg||
nt|bessi2: is the important part|pg||
nt|athene: maybe he will hope that his four-card trump holding will cause handling problems for declarer|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: If West reads partner for 5-6 in the blacks, he may fancy a sacrifice. No. |pg||
nt|Walddk2: 7@C is also expensive|pg||
nt|brolucius: I always enjoy seeing world-class players bid competitive hands. Excellent!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No way Levin can bid 6@S|pg||
nt|bessi2: if he were sure of 65 he would sacrifice, but there is nothing to suggest that.. his pd was perhaps just trying for the 44 fit on his way to 5@c|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is one of the most difficult parts of the game.|pg||
nt|athene: 4@S must have shown 6-5|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Did 4@S not indicate 6-5, bessi?|pg||
nt|athene: i don't see how levin can bid again|pg||
nt|brolucius: East has surely shown his hand already. He has the @DK in defense too.|pg||
nt|bessi2: not in my view.. if he is bidding 5@c why not try for the 44 fit.. perhaps pd even has bad 5@s|pg||
mb|p|pc|cA|nt|brolucius: Partner needs to know whether you have 4 or 5 spades, though, or how can he judge whether to sacrifice?|pg||
nt|bessi2: and from the looks of it Weinstein wasn't sure either or he would have sacrificed with his hand|pg||
pc|c4|nt|athene: i think 4@S should show five because the number of times it's right to introduce only 4 spades there is not high enough - partner could have doubled 2@H to get spades into it|pg||
pc|c9|pc|h5|pg||
nt|bessi2: well.. with 56 you will often overcall 1@s|pg||
nt|bessi2: that is a good point though|pg||
nt|athene: overcalling 1@S with 5-6 pretty much says goodbye to the club suit permanently|pg||
nt|brolucius: You bid the clubs first if you intend to bid the spades as well. Otherwise just show the spades.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: There is a problem when hearts are 4-0 because diamonds are blocked|pg||
nt|brolucius: Of course, you could use Michaels over a 1@H opening. More difficult when they begin with 1@D.|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|nt|bessi2: now Helgemo knows easts shape|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|h7|mc|12|nt|athene: well you just play ghestem then you can show two-suiters properly|pg||
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qx|c12|st||md|2SAQTHKQJT75DT965C,SJ743H9863DJ7CAT5,S5HA42DAQ432CKJ64,SK9862HDK8CQ98732|sv|n|nt|chick: Now EW have the chance to stay out of an unmakeable game|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Nickell team running out of boards.|pg||
nt|kareno: Ahhh.. spec tells me 1@d shows unbalanced hand.|pg||
nt|roswolf: broad got a hatrick:)|pg||
nt|barnets: some excitement here|pg||
nt|barnets: can make 6 of a red  slam|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Some discussion about who is reponsible for being behind.|pg||
nt|barnets: cashing the @DA first |pg||
nt|roswolf: i can believe it -this is disgraceful|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|odysseus69: they bid it quickly next door|pg||
mb|1S|nt|tarekr:  They say in their CC notes that they do unconventional things. This was one of those|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, only five to go.|pg||
nt|kareno: Whoa - something happened.|pg||
nt|gambit: 5 boards, 15 imps, great to see a match so tight |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: That said, they just picked up 13.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Ah even better it was conventional|pg||
mb|2H|mb|3S|nt|tarekr:  risk of getting too hi here but she should have the tools to stop at 5@c|pg||
nt|sybarra: the 4 @S bid in the other roo was what?  a "zia" cue bid?|pg||
nt|tarekr:  they instead of she sry|pg||
nt|tarekr:  must be|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm a slan hand this will take ages|pg||
nt|barnets: safety against stiff @D K|pg||
nt|roswolf: slam|pg||
mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|sybarra: suggested is was response to 4 @C key card |pg||
nt|sybarra: going at it another way here |pg||
nt|stewball: 2@s asks range i think|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D tends to be unbal  but might be 5@D 2@C 33   opener's choice of 1@C/1@D with that hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: helgemo in this position bid 6@H|pg||
nt|odysseus69: will they take the save here|pg||
nt|barnets: Zia - Hamman bid 6@D|pg||
nt|barnets: after zia bid a pickem 5N|pg||
mb|6H|nt|frankaus: needs a @S lead to set 5@D|pg||
mb|d|nt|barnets: and on a club lead|pg||
nt|roswolf: I APPROVE|pg||
mb|p|nt|ybob: 2@S = @C or bal invit|pg||
nt|stewball: well this is non systemic|pg||
nt|ybob: 3NT by W|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Correct, if I interpret the hand gestures correctly.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: Sometimes the direct approach is best.|pg||
nt|barnets: hamman safety played the trumps|pg||
pc|s7|nt|santyclz: However they are  pinpointing the lead.|pg||
nt|frankaus: the bidding is likely to get a @S lead now|pg||
nt|tarekr:  another big swing for Hampton|pg||
nt|stewball: thats better|pg||
nt|roswolf: the dbl is understandable if wrong|pg||
nt|odysseus69: maybe they play double shows 1 defensive trick|pg||
pc|s5|nt|kareno: You can play out the hand by going to MOVIE.|pg||
nt|kareno: 1@d shows hearts, 1@h shows three of them.|pg||
nt|gambit: wow, a photo finish |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Bramley: "You have a full opener."|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: "A rare pleasure."|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
nt|gambit: :)|pg||
nt|warrens:  the double is better on a @H lead|pg||
pc|sT|nt|chick: @H lead at the other table allowed declarer to pitch a @S|pg||
pc|s3|nt|santyclz: Too much science.|pg||
pc|h2|nt|odysseus69: that convention always seems to go wrong|pg||
nt|warrens:  sorry, thought they were in @D's.  never mind|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|ybob: " Meckwell style 2@S "|pg||
nt|stewball: actually i think its kokish|pg||
pc|c4|nt|Vugraphzfe: OK.  I had to leave the table for a moment so I don't know what has happened.|pg||
pc|c3|pc|h5|pc|c5|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|s2|pg||
nt|chick: so this will be another swing for Westheimer team|pg||
pc|h4|pc|c7|nt|ahollan1: for viewers who didn't know  Warren's team won the 2011 GNT [Grand National Teams] at the beginning of the Toronto NABC|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Sorry about that.   In all the excitement I for got the final bid. :)|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|d2|nt|frankaus: as is often the case 3NT is the spot  - |pg||
nt|chick: 3N down on spades too|pg||
nt|tarekr:  I am going to add bidding natural 3 cd suits to my repertoire:)|pg||
nt|othered1: 1 imp closer than the Wagar final at the moment.|pg||
nt|sybarra: hi Ed :) |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Cards are coming so fast I lost the play.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  hi Ed|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|hK|nt|ybob: short by 1, np|pg||
pc|h9|pc|c6|nt|barnets: perhaps he is used to partner saving|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3ST9HT9765DK42CT72,SQJ8643HA2DAJTCJ9,S2HKJ43D8765CKQ53,SAK75HQ8DQ93CA864|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|athene: 2@H will get super-accepted and then weinstein might start to have ambitions|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|athene: oh well, maybe not|pg||
nt|brolucius: @HQ-8 no good. And he had only 15.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: This is their way of making a balanced slam try|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 4@H would have been a wish to sign off in 4@S|pg||
nt|athene: this sequence shows slam ambitions but still levin might not move - he has a lot of rubbish in the side suits|pg||
nt|brolucius: Three key cards, though.|pg||
nt|bessi2: this usually shows very mild slam interest.. at least that's how I once played it|pg||
nt|brolucius: A heart lead will prevent declarer from setting up a club for a heart discard.|pg||
nt|athene: on a non-heart lead you can strip squeeze north in hearts and clubs|pg||
nt|athene: if you read the cards|pg||
nt|brolucius: Or take an intra-finesse, club to the 9.|pg||
nt|bessi2: Levin's hand isn't that pretty opposite a balanced hand.. no suit of his own for tricks|pg||
nt|athene: yes|pg||
nt|athene: you would much rather have, say, 3-2-3-5|pg||
nt|brolucius: East cannot write off his red queens, when partner is likely to be balanced.|pg||
nt|bessi2: but to be fair.. these 2 hands fit rather horribly.. slam could easily be laydown from Levin's point of view|pg||
nt|brolucius: I don't think he can pass with three key cards and four spades.|pg||
nt|athene: east's problem is that even if he decides to move it will be very hard to show partner what he has|pg||
nt|brolucius: 5@C?|pg||
nt|athene: i think if he bids a new suit here it should be concentration of strength really|pg||
nt|brolucius: Then it would have to be 5@S. |pg||
nt|athene: maybe you just blackwood and bash it in, tell the defence nothing|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfg: Levin with his head in hands, sighing, closed eyes..|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: You give away the secrets of your own methods, Bill.|pg||
mb|p|nt|warrens:  no, not that good at all|pg||
pc|d2|nt|warrens:  just a mild invite better|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg||
nt|athene: i doubt helgemo has any great hopes of beating this, after the long think :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfg: Sorry, i lost the play|pg||
mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfg: Another smoking break|pg||
nt|athene: so 6@S by west was actually cold|pg||
nt|Walddk2: There might be a slam lurking around the corner. We shall see|pg||
nt|athene: oh well, that shouldn't worry levin-weinstein too much|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Or one more I should have said perhaps|pg||
nt|brolucius: @CK lead from North would aid declarer's cause.|pg||
nt|brolucius: The fact that the chosen sequence was a mild slam invite is because West would have used a 4-level transfer on a hand where game was the limit.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Meanwhile, we give the closed room an opportunity to catch up. They are four boards behind us|pg||
nt|brolucius: They have been smoking more than the players at our table?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No, Ekeblad is eliminated|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Worth the wait if we are getting a grand slam now|pg||
nt|brolucius: Imagine if they stopped an Arsenal-Manchester United game, so that the players could have a smoke.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I can reveal that it *was* a grand slam at one table in the other match|pg||
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qx|c13|st||md|3ST9HT9765DK42CT72,SQJ8643HA2DAJTCJ9,S2HKJ43D8765CKQ53,SAK75HQ8DQ93CA864|sv|b|nt|santyclz: With the @ss so nicely blocked, anyway.|pg||
nt|chick: oops, you are right|pg||
nt|frankaus: can @S be untangled ?|pg||
nt|santyclz: No.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zia: "C'est la vie."|pg||
nt|odysseus69: going back to that 1 trick double- apart from the void factor the tricky bit is when defenders have a split q and jack which is a trick- they cant judge |pg||
nt|roswolf: a totally random pickup|pg||
nt|roswolf: another fat game|pg||
nt|barnets: not sure why he did not safety diamonds|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|Vugraphzfe: Open room having trouble with their slam bidding. :)|pg||
nt|tarekr:  time for a Zia splinter :)|pg||
nt|barnets: in 6@HX|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H!|nt|sybarra: wonder wha t the 2 @H was in the other room |pg||
nt|tarekr:  Michaels: 5-6 or 6-6|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|tarekr:  good pass from Shawn|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: She thought about it for a minute.|pg||
nt|sybarra: 2 @H was invite + with support was the alert|pg||
nt|warrens:  looked to me like he was trying to guard against KJxx in W, planning to endplay him at the end|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|frankaus: i have a "fable" about 5 minor contracts -|pg||
nt|chick: remove your children from the room for a moment :)|pg||
nt|santyclz: Does it involve gingerbread houses?|pg||
nt|tarekr:  a chance to get 12 back here for Westheimer|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2@D shows hearts but not forcing beyond 2@H|pg||
nt|puncher99: can actually make it|pg||
nt|warrens:  if he could get rid of all of W's black cards|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: Sorry.  The hotel connection gets a bit flakey every now and then.|pg||
mb|4H|nt|roswolf: slam try!?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: on their way into orbit|pg||
mb|p|nt|stewball: not much drama here|pg||
nt|peachy: Especially for our non-US specs, here is Spingold history |pg||
nt|peachy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spingold|pg||
mb|4N|nt|puncher99: not a spot i would want to be in tho|pg||
mb|p|mb|5S|nt|warrens:  if S leads a @D or a @S, he can make it on a squeeze endplay|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Fleisher running out of Pass cards.|pg||
mb|p|nt|frankaus: 5m like kissing your own sistes - even when its right its hard to get excited about it|pg||
nt|frankaus: sister|pg||
nt|ahollan1: too many wasted points  in trump!!|pg||
mb|5N|nt|tarekr:  2@s 3@h but only 11Hcp thus 2NT. lats time 3NT was 17 I believe|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes but a heart looks the natural lead|pg||
mb|p|mb|6S|nt|barnets: Had a lot of spec comments about last|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|santyclz: I could easily get excited kissing your sister.|pg||
nt|kareno: Hmmm... do we know what 3@c meant?|pg||
nt|barnets: he could after ruffing his loser could have drawn trumps @DA @C ruff diamond up|pg||
nt|warrens:  or he could play a club to the nine and set up a pitch|pg||
nt|warrens:  so, big swing hand|pg||
nt|odysseus69: or establishing a club trick|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Can also make on a heart lead I think|pg||
nt|roswolf: a club lead looks a poor choice|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|warrens:  I don't see how he can go wrong here. if he tries to ruff out @C's, S's 7 at trick 2 will give it all away.|pg||
pc|s5|nt|chick: not me|pg||
nt|warrens:  if he goes for the endplay, that works too|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg||
nt|barnets: mybe north could have x 4@H|pg||
nt|roswolf: well this will be a big swing one way or the other|pg||
pc|s3|nt|barnets: which was a cue bid|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ybob: 140 ?|pg||
nt|ybob: 2@S 2@D|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Hamman say 6-4 with a good hand.|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|dT|nt|tarekr:  I don't know may be some kind of checkback|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|kareno: 3nt would be fine also.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg||
nt|barnets: should have x i meant|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg||
nt|barnets: looks clear|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|kareno: North endplayed.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
nt|roswolf: Monaco breaking the bank here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wish they'd do it by going all in   instead of so slowly|pg||
nt|roswolf: :):)|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|nt|chick: well done by Cronier, Quinn was stuck|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s4|pg||
mc|12|nt|roswolf: well done|pg||
nt|barnets: lucky swing|pg||
pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4S653HKDAKQ986CA76,SQJ92HT863D72CQ53,SAK7HAQ9D54CKJ984,ST84HJ7542DJT3CT2|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: And a grand slam you want to be in|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Even if diamonds don't behave you have chances, so 7NT is a great contract|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And obviously better than 7@D|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Hamman-Zia bid 7NT, Cayne-Seamon did not|pg||
nt|brolucius: And South may not be able to discover that North has two diamonds rather than one.|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|d|nt|brolucius: Likely that 4@S is RKCB.|pg||
nt|athene: 4@C RKCB?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 2@C is game-forcing, no need for Helgemo to jump to 3@D|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: 4@S would then show two without the @CQ.|pg||
nt|athene: why would helness not just bid 6@C now? he knows they are off the @CQ|pg||
nt|brolucius: That's why he should not be taking charge of the auction.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: How much do you get for 4@SXX with an overtrick?|pg||
nt|brolucius: West is perhaps getting nervous.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1080|pg||
nt|brolucius: Did you learn that number from the plus column of your scorecard or the other one?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No, I got it from 81 specs|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfg: Tor asked Bobby: what's that double? Bobby shaked his head|pg||
nt|brolucius: So popular.|pg||
nt|athene: helgemo has a pretty good hand, given what he has shown|pg||
nt|bessi2: the problem is that Helgemo has a MUCH better hand than he could have had|pg||
nt|brolucius: Very risky attempt 4@S redoubled when you may not know for certain how many spades partner has.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1080 will be cheap for E-W|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 10 IMPs in|pg||
nt|brolucius: A pass of a doubled Blackwood response may have some meaning other than suggesting that the contract can be played. |pg||
nt|athene: helgemo might be a bit worried his partner has two losing spades|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not if 4@C was RKCB.|pg||
nt|athene: sure, you shouldn't use blackwood with two fast losers in an unbid suit, but it does happen|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not when South is so big.|pg||
nt|brolucius: His hand, I mean.|pg||
mb|5N|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: the advantage of 2/1 GF is you don't have to jump |pg||
nt|athene: the disadvantage, of course, is that you don't have to jump|pg||
nt|athene: so no-one can ever show extras|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: How true.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Zia jumped to 3@D|pg||
pc|s4|nt|bessi2: was a very difficult hand to bid for ns|pg||
nt|Walddk2: That did the trick|pg||
nt|athene: in theory you have a lot more sequences available, but in practice it often does not work out that way|pg||
nt|brolucius: Zimmermann will be disappointed that his boys did not find this one.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|nt|brolucius: 'Sorry, but I have had to knock off $5000.'|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cA|nt|brolucius: 6@C might go down on a bad break when 7NT was cold.|pg||
mc|12|nt|bessi2: :) failure standards|pg||
pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4S653HKDAKQ986CA76,SQJ92HT863D72CQ53,SAK7HAQ9D54CKJ984,ST84HJ7542DJT3CT2|sv|o|nt|santyclz: Tied the Board A Match for this session.|pg||
nt|frankaus: many "coaches" warn about bidding to 5 level so why wenture there is my point|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: EW had a bit of a discrepancy in the meaning of the 3@s bid.|pg||
nt|santyclz: Oops, no, I was giving the imp the wrong way.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Mixed raise vs. weak|pg||
nt|tarekr:  sry 13|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Mildred claime immediately.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: claimed|pg||
nt|tarekr:  forgot the overtrick:)|pg||
nt|sybarra: and we start over so to say |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: I'll bet there will be some discussion on those two boards.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: They are playing so fast now it is hard to keep up. :(|pg||
nt|ritong: chess players call that zeitnot|pg||
nt|kareno: Diamond led on the previous 3nt and Bramley should pick up ten IMPs.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: my fear  --  other match will restart on time  and then we won't play same set of boards|pg||
nt|barnets: 7N decent|pg||
mb|p|nt|warrens:  a great grand slam here, since it needs either 3-2 @C's or 5 @c tricks|pg||
mb|1D!|nt|odysseus69: looks annother possible here for Monaco|pg||
nt|warrens:  so, better than 68%|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|gambit: Unless Roy "right-sides" the lead...a la Bart...|pg||
nt|barnets: 7N |pg||
nt|barnets: c|pg||
nt|warrens:  I meant 3-2 @D's or picking up all the @C's|pg||
nt|ahollan1: as mentioned  1@D assumed to be unbalanced but sometimes 3=3=5=2|pg||
nt|odysseus69: i meant fleisher-sorry|pg||
nt|barnets: 7N can make whn one minor is bad|pg||
mb|4H!|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: maybe german chess players do|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@D=[semi]solid suit|pg||
nt|kit: this is RKC diamonds|pg||
nt|odysseus69: looks like they safety played clubs im OR|pg||
mb|4S!|mb|p|nt|tarekr:  Humm! surprised by 3@c bid|pg||
nt|warrens:  a good bid by Kamil and we're off to the races|pg||
nt|kit: 0 or 3|pg||
nt|roswolf: well n/s should bid this unless they are shellshocked by the precious hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: the grand i mean|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 4h -rkc|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kit  does anyone ever adjust responses to RKC when they've shown a [semi]Solid suit?  |pg||
nt|odysseus69: 4S - 3 Key carrds|pg||
nt|kit: if I have shown a solid suit (i.e. AKQ), then I count jack as queen in the queen asks|pg||
nt|barnets: helness chose 2@D rebid|pg||
nt|barnets: which could be the difference|pg||
nt|roswolf: festart  should be 10 mins approx after they finish here|pg||
nt|roswolf: restart|pg||
nt|kit: But only with solid suit shown -- not with semi-solid suit (as here) shown|pg||
nt|odysseus69: this has to be my last- thx all|pg||
nt|roswolf: maybe a system misunderstanding coming up!?|pg||
mb|5H|mb|p|nt|Walddk4: *If* they finish Geoffrey means, and then we have Fantoni for the second set :)|pg||
nt|barnets: sorry helgemo chose 2@D rebid get it right|pg||
mb|5N|nt|kareno: Nine on the lead here.|pg||
nt|kit: Seems like Fleisher will ask for queen, Kamil will show it and king of hearts, and grand will be bid|pg||
nt|roswolf: i get nervous about these bidding delaus|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: and you would bid?|pg||
nt|kit: 5H asks for specific kings|pg||
nt|roswolf: delays|pg||
nt|ahollan1: they just opened the vugraph tables for the other match|pg||
mb|7N|mb|p|nt|tarekr:  The news are in 3NT d1 on 59|pg||
mb|p|nt|ybob: duck ...|pg||
nt|kit: 5NT shows king of hearts|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: well bid|pg||
nt|roswolf: well done|pg||
nt|Walddk4: They can't, Al. They are playing the same boards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and @DQ|pg||
nt|kit: I guess they play that the 3@D call shows solid suit, as otherwise North would have asked for queen of trumps|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: NS confirming they were in sync with this bidding sequence.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: no boards showing yet -- just opened room|pg||
nt|Walddk4: So rest assured that play will not start until everyone is done and ready to restart|pg||
pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: and as i said that   they both closed :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: I suspect the play will be quicker than the bidding.|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: seems last year this happened  and they just went to playing different boards|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
mc|13|nt|kit: I believe 5@H is king ask, but I could be wrong|pg||
nt|ahollan1: very nice|pg||
pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1SAQ9HQJ7DAJTCT864,SK52H9832D43CAK75,S74H64DQ98752CQ93,SJT863HAKT5DK6CJ2|sv|n|nt|athene: i can see why helgemo didn't want to jump to 3@D - he wanted to leave room to show the club support|pg||
nt|athene: it could easily be necessary to play in clubs|pg||
mb|1N|nt|athene: if partner has really good clubs, 7@C might be a lot better, ruffing the diamonds good|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: A strange upgrade|pg||
mb|2S|nt|athene: but these auctions have a  habit of getting confused with neither player in a position to assume captaincy|pg||
nt|brolucius: But it was hopeless North taking control when South has a possibly running side suit.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Not worth it by any means|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, that's the right word: captaincy. All important on that deal.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I know Zia did the same, but I am entitled to say that it's not worth an upgrade|pg||
mb|d|nt|athene: levin wondering whether to double this, or pass and double for takeout later|pg||
nt|Walddk2: We can ask the KnR Hand Evaluator|pg||
mb|3C|nt|Walddk2: 12.85!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: so is it worth 15 just because Zia and Helgemo think so?|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: All the points in 3-card suits.|pg||
pc|c3|nt|athene: KnR loathes queens and jacks with a disproportionate loathing|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi?hand=aq9+qjx+ajt+t8xx|pg||
nt|athene: it actually thinks xxx is better than QJx :)|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 10.85 with qjx replaced by xxx|pg||
nt|brolucius: If N/S used 2NT as the transfer for diamonds, this would shut out E/W. But 3@D goes down anyway, for a similar score.|pg||
nt|bessi2: looks normal to play a low @s now|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
nt|athene: easy to count the hcp for sure|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|d6|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d2|pc|s3|pc|cT|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|s6|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hQ|nt|athene: declarer hoping that three rounds of hearts will endplay helgemo?|pg||
pc|h9|pc|d8|pg||
nt|athene: i suppose it will if he is down to @SAQx and nothing else, for his last four cards...|pg||
pc|dT|nt|bessi2: looks like he was playing for north to have 13 in the majors|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1SAQ9HQJ7DAJTCT864,SK52H9832D43CAK75,S74H64DQ98752CQ93,SJT863HAKT5DK6CJ2|sv|n|nt|tarekr:  I lost something on that one sry!|pg||
nt|gambit: silly to throw a @D|pg||
nt|kareno: when pard called hearts.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: bye all|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|roswolf: bye victor|pg||
nt|barnets: bye victor|pg||
nt|roswolf: this will be feisty|pg||
mb|1S!|mb|d|nt|roswolf: perhaps not:(|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kit is right -- Fleisher's bid did NOT ask @DQ   that would have been 4N|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S=a) @C/@D, usually not 9-11  b) 6-8 BAL|pg||
mb|1N|mb|d|nt|santyclz: The got a bit overboard in the open room.|pg||
nt|barnets: its a board like that that makes hours spent practising bidding worthwhile|pg||
nt|barnets: and this pair have put in the hours|pg||
nt|kit: 1@s shows no major I believe|pg||
nt|roswolf: virtue is its own reward|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think Kamil had option of RDBL to show 3@D|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Fleisher has bid.  Waiting on Zimmermann.|pg||
mb|2D|nt|gambit: Flannery Strikes|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Some people's least favourite and other's most favourite.|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz: I would pass with the w hand.|pg||
nt|kareno: I play it in my four card major partnerships - makes a lot of sense in that style.|pg||
mb|p|nt|stewball: zia chooses 2@h over 2nt|pg||
nt|gambit: too rich|pg||
mb|2H|nt|peachy: Making a wild guess that 3H forcing|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: west will bid again?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|santyclz: Good rule for misfits:  Pass before the doubling starts.|pg||
nt|chick: :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Willard taking her time....|pg||
nt|tarekr:  critical move at this point|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Usually she is a fairly quick player.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  good thing they are not playin upside down on this hand|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Karen this makes sense to me but not with 5cd majorites|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|kit: Kamil has good diamond support, but 4-3-3-3 not attractive and being vul a further deterrent to bidding|pg||
nt|barnets: e/w are wrongsied|pg||
mb|p|nt|frankaus: 4 imps to Hampton i expect|pg||
nt|ybob: friendly @D to win 3NT|pg||
nt|kareno: No, not in that style.  Actually Bill Flannery invented it for one hand only - 4522|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: Looked like the Q from across the table.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: The connection might wink out of existance for a moment again. :(|pg||
nt|stewball: zia will do well to play @d not @s,,he has had a lot of tuff hands to play this set|pg||
nt|peachy: http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/spingold-round-of-8  Standings in all 4 matches will be available here shortly after set finished                 http://w...|pg||
nt|peachy: ww.bridgewinners.com/index.php/spingold-round-of-8|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|kit: I think he should have passed -- too likely he is just plain bidding for a minus score, and opponents probably won't be taking the push.|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
nt|ritong: talking about wild guesses, mildred breed's bid other room was something|pg||
nt|fabsayc: another contract that should be doubled|pg||
nt|ritong: but she could expect better @ss|pg||
nt|tarekr:  well shae expected P tohave A@s of course|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|nt|kareno: @d j insisting on spade return.|pg||
pc|c2|nt|santyclz: This isn't going to be a bed of roses with the 5-1 @S break.|pg||
nt|chick: probably won't be down 4 though|pg||
nt|santyclz: 2, maybe even 1...|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|roswolf: will they grt the club ruff|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|cJ|nt|chick: down 1 = 4 imps|pg||
nt|frankaus: next is the last in this set?|pg||
nt|santyclz: Yes.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: then why not blackwood|pg||
nt|tarekr:  looking at KQJ??|pg||
nt|peachy: http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/spingold-round-of-8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: for down 2|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|h9|nt|Vugraphzfe: Lost the play.  The contract was doomed.|pg||
nt|stewball: he wont go wrong now|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: gulp|pg||
nt|kit: wow -- what went wrong there?|pg||
nt|roswolf: french fatigue|pg||
nt|barnets: Multon usually gets things right|pg||
pc|hK|nt|frankaus: tu all 4 your company - many interesting hands|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|nt|santyclz: This is the penultimate board (I think it says in our contract we have to use the word "penultimate".)|pg||
nt|stewball: voila|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
nt|Walddk4: He thought Zinmmermann had QJx|pg||
nt|kit: Of course Zimmerman might have made life easier by leading a high heart|pg||
nt|barnets: perhaps east missiganalled|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg||
nt|chick: in memory of mariner1 :)|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|nt|frankaus: brb|pg||
nt|stewball: i think he was committed more or less|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|d7|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dQ|mc|8|pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2SJT94H863DAJ853CQ,SQ873HQ4DKQTCKJ72,SAK62HK72D974CT85,S5HAJT95D62CA9643|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: Last board of the set|pg||
nt|brolucius: Accurate bidding to 3@S.|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Many thanks to Sorin, our excellent operator in Toronto|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|athene: i bet KnR wasn't opening that west hand either|pg||
nt|Walddk2: and to our commentators, David, Bill and Sigurbjörn|pg||
nt|athene: "you all have to stop bidding so much!" it wails, but no-one listens|pg||
nt|bessi2: Levin has a promising hand after his pd opened a natural @c|pg||
nt|brolucius: There must be a more popular version that gives higher numbers.|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|athene: may i interest you in KnR 2.0, David? a simple extra line of code at the end and you can open almost any hand :)|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|athene: two-way checkback; 2@c forces 2@D so east can invite and stop in 2@H|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|brolucius: I will think about it. On this deal, East must be amazed that he has bought it at the two level.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The (lack of) pace determines when the second set starts. They are bidding 13 now|pg||
mc|11|nt|Walddk2: Bye for now|pg||
nt|bessi2: thx all|pg||
nt|brolucius: Thanks for watching!|pg||
nt|athene: thanks all|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfg: I'll close the room, ty everybody|pg||
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qx|c16|st||md|2SJT94H863DAJ853CQ,SQ873HQ4DKQTCKJ72,SAK62HK72D974CT85,S5HAJT95D62CA9643|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfe: Last hand of the set.  Really enjoyable bringing this to you.  The atmosphere in|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: the room has been very cordial and relaxed.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Last of the set.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Last board of the match.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: A very wild set.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Well it never entered her mind that P would bid 2 with 6 to the T|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Last of the set, now.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Last of this match.|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Ross. Great Job! Our appreciation to the organisers, the ACBL (Jan Martel) for ensuring that this fine event is ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: brought to BBO vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators (and other gatecrashersJ) Victor, Al and Barnet for their company and perceptive comments. Also to our ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
nt|Walddk4: I like 'gatecrashers'|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Many thanks all around.  We will be back shortly.|pg||
mb|1C|nt|sybarra: thx to Ross |pg||
nt|tarekr:  there surely has been a lot of fireworks on this set!|pg||
nt|sybarra: and thx Tarek, for joining me |pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|an|4+!h|nt|Vugraphzfe: You are welcome Shirley.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  U r so welcome Shirley! I'll be back for set 4|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Thanks to the specs.|pg||
nt|peachy: Last hand on the set is upm the final set is scheduled to begin in about 25 minutes from now|pg||
nt|stewball: i'm not convinced that was % line but sure was successful|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|an|Alerted|nt|sybarra: how soon back? |pg||
nt|sybarra: 15 min or so?|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Thank to all in the audience!|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Ur comments were very much appreciated.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: very soon.  Enough time to compare, and a small break.  15 minutes or so.|pg||
nt|stewball: i take that back,,i am convinced|pg||
nt|gambit: Zia speculated on the strategical advantages to knowing the "state of the match" No doubt if know, this would impact this last hand |pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: 4@H sort of fortunate -- finding a good fit and hand lying well|pg||
mb|3C|nt|chick: oops, I confuse easily, the 4 imps went to Hampton|pg||
nt|peachy: Thank you to our operator Ross in Toronto, to all commentators, and especially the kibitzers. Hope you all enjoyed.|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: But that East hand is the type of hand which gets those good fits and breaks, so there is a lot to be said for driving to game with it.|pg||
mb|3N|nt|stewball: thanks to all|pg||
nt|ybob: thx all|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: It is a pleasure for me to do this. :)|pg||
nt|peachy: 2S might be invite with 5-4, I dont think it can be gf|pg||
nt|stewball: 4@h?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Some discussion between Zia and Welland....  They are also chatting about the|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: previous board.|pg||
nt|ybob: a clear 4@H by N|pg||
nt|peachy: Kibs say it could be Smolen.  Some play Smolen on the 3-;eve; GF, some have other agreements.|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: Many thanks to our excellent vugraph operator Ross :)|pg||
nt|ritong: punchy double|pg||
nt|fabsayc: last board now, congratulations to hampton team who played well especially in final set, and thanks to our operator Ross for keeping us aware of all developments|pg||
nt|puncher99: ok hope u enjoyed the match folks and fellow commentators and operator|pg||
nt|kareno: Four comparisons pending though.  Keep the room open for those?  Or specs move to the OR.  Thanks for a great job Operating, Ross.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Thank you to all the specs and their comments. Abravo for Ross who always gives us the "scoop" and my collegues Karen and Cam|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Thank-you Karen.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|gambit: Yes, WD Ross, loved those notes (Roy rocking back and forth, Zia mumbling....great stuff, TY) |pg||
nt|kareno: And of course thanks to ACBL for letting us broadcast these great events and to Jan Martel for organizing the vugraph.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Otherwise it's just 'bridge'.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=4+@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S probably denies 3@H|pg||
nt|kit: But this game can be defeated if defense is sharp|pg||
nt|roswolf: they will be tired after this marathon|pg||
pc|h2|nt|Vugraphzfe: Thanks all for your comments and compliments. It has been a fun session.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  May be they did not let Shawn bid|pg||
nt|peachy: Thanks all, especially specs for their participation|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Thanks all.  This has been a very interesting session. :)|pg||
nt|tarekr:  thank you Ross and all friends and specs|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Welland: "We have no agreement." (2@s call)|pg||
nt|kit: Not only does Fleisher have to lead a high spade, but Kamil would have to not play the jack|pg||
pc|h5|nt|frankaus: b|pg||
nt|sybarra: well that is some bid! |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Director call.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Breed may feel there was some UI in the auction.|pg||
nt|tarekr:  5@s showed 2 w/Q and 4@c showed 5@c with 2/3 top honors|pg||
nt|sybarra: and the unauthorized was what?|pg||
nt|tarekr:  2/3 top honors or better|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: They are discussing....|pg||
nt|tarekr:  This is part of Jacoby 2NT structure|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Not too sure what the issue is...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: EW think the auction is over.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Breed claims it isn't and that she was just rearranging her pass cards on the tray.|pg||
pc|h3|nt|Vugraphzfe: Too busy typing -- I missed who took that trick.|pg||
nt|sybarra: someone should smack this |pg||
nt|tarekr:  only 12 tricks in 7NT|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C was definitely either Invite or Game Force -- i can't tell by looking at either hand :(|pg||
nt|kit: Declarer probably thinks the hearts are 4-2, so from his point of view even if clubs come home he doesn't have 9 tricks|pg||
nt|Walddk4: They should be panalised for taking 2 hours and 50 minutes to play 16 boards, but it never happens. There is a clock, why I don't know|pg||
nt|roswolf: this will be a close match after this|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c5|nt|kareno: Specs thanking all the commentators also :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Yes, kudos to Jan for the work she does to make this all happen|pg||
nt|kit: So he might cross and lead a diamond|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|kareno: And what a platform we have on BBO!!!|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: OK.  Last board and I lost the play. :(|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: At least it isn't a doubled slam. ;)|pg||
nt|tarekr:  Final Kudo to Roland for directing the traffic on all of this|pg||
nt|kareno: LOL|pg||
nt|kareno: Indeed!!|pg||
nt|gambit: TY Fred Gitleman, Uday, Roland, Jan and you Ross who help us share this wonderful event|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Tough to say what will happen here in this session.  Hamman and Zia have kept|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: the Nickell team still in it with the last results of this set.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Seven tricks played.  Zia has 2.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Zia has 5.|pg||
nt|kit: and then defense can recover|pg||
nt|roswolf: claim time|pg||
pc|c3|nt|gambit: Thx all, over to another table |pg||
nt|kit: we see it is a claim, but he doesn't|pg||
nt|ahollan1: penalize ACBL for letting it go this long???|pg||
pc|h6|nt|roswolf: true but no other line|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pg||
nt|ritong: von arnim feeling better now|pg||
nt|ritong: and soon much better|pg||
nt|kit: no -- he might try to steal a diamond|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|nt|vugraphzfe: Hamman had the @d 2 out to play several times  but puts the card back.|pg||
pc|h9|nt|frankaus: bye  4 now|pg||
nt|santyclz: Thanks all, bye for now.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfe: Quick hand.  3rd quarter starts at 8:00|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
mc|10|nt|roswolf: always go for the genuine line and not the mis-defence|pg||
nt|roswolf: thx all for 5-10 mins|pg||
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