vg|2011 Vanderbilt Final,1 of 4,I,1,16,Grue,0,Fleisher,0|
rs|4DNx-3,3DNx-1,2HN=,2HS=,4HS=,4HS=,2HS+1,3DE-1,1NS+1,1NE=,3NE-2,4HW-1,2SE+3,3SE+2,3NE+1,3NE=,4DN=,5DNx-1,2SN-2,2SS-1,4SE=,3SE+1,4SS=,2HW-3,3NN+1,3CS+1,4DW+1,4CE=,4HS+1,5DEx-5,7DNx-3,5HEx+1|
pn|Cheek,Weinstein,Grue,Levin,KAMIL,AMOILS,FLEISHER,DELMONTE|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3STH642DQJ8542CAJ2,SAQ4HT97DKT97CK94,S9873HAQ53DA3CQ86,SKJ652HKJ8D6CT753|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|Vugraphzfc: results from yesterday's matches can be found on bridgewinners.com|pg||
nt|harmon: precision d|pg||
nt|algraves:  hello everyone|pg||
nt|harmon: Hi Al|pg||
nt|algraves:  another good bridge game here today|pg||
mb|3D!|an|PRE, 6 !ds|mb|3S|nt|algraves:  Cheek and Grue play the modern precision poplularized by Meckstroth and Rodwell , very agressive|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|algraves:  Levein Weinstein classic 2  over 1 but with many subtle treatments|pg||
mb|4D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|nt|hedyg: good day/afternoon/evening and welcome back to Louisville to the final of the Vanderbilt|pg||
nt|hedyg: our operator is Patty|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|hedyg: NS system summary: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=577&pid=155|pg||
nt|hedyg: EW system summary : http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=568&pid=194|pg||
nt|harmon: shd be 500|pg||
nt|hedyg: for watching multiple tables: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi Harmon :)|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s3|nt|algraves:  good judgement by EW|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|hT|nt|harmon: 6 ofs for hts|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg||
nt|harmon: Stevo complies|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c7|nt|hedyg: no webcam for now|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3STH642DQJ8542CAJ2,SAQ4HT97DKT97CK94,S9873HAQ53DA3CQ86,SKJ652HKJ8D6CT753|sv|o|nt|vugraphzfh: good morning all, Finals of Vanderbilt from Louisville|pg||
mb|1C|an|c b short|mb|1S|mb|2C!|an|Tx to !D|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|sybarra: hello all and welcome to Frank Budai|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|mrdct: looks like well do some quick catching up here|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: west not adhering to the rule of 15|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sA|nt|frankaus: g'day all |pg||
nt|chilloncan: hi shirley & hi frank & hi specs:) wlcome to louisville|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
nt|chilloncan: welc back dave:)|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|d2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg||
nt|frankaus: del'monte won the prestigeous gold coast tournament in aus a couple of weks ago|pg||
nt|chilloncan: riproaring 1S contract to get things underway. went right by the other one-level suit contracts. live on the edge here in the Vanderbilt|pg||
nt|sybarra: I have played agst. n/s |pg||
pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|c7|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|cQ|pc|sJ|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4SKTHA82DQJ943CQT4,SQJ9HKQ9DKT75CA65,SA864HJT653D86CKJ,S7532H74DA2C98732|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|r!|nt|hedyg: 1@d is a catchall bid not promising any @ds|pg||
mb|1S|nt|harmon: 1st hand shows some of the drawbacks to ambiguous d|pg||
nt|algraves:  presumably a transfer to @H|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|algraves:  hi|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi Allan :)|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|algraves:  support double|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: RDBL showed hearts, Cheek's double showed 3 @Hs|pg||
pc|dA|nt|hedyg: ty Patty :)|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|harmon: anybody want some sleet got plenty here in Wisconsin??|pg||
nt|algraves:  this is a good lead for the Defense as it gets Levins @H 7 in the game|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d6|pg||
nt|harmon: agree Al|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: e-w carding standard!|pg||
pc|d5|pc|hT|pc|c9|pc|d9|pg||
nt|hedyg: now he knows where KQ@H are and can play A@H and @H|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|algraves:  are we sure he did not play @D honour from Dummy?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: no, std ct, u/d att|pg||
nt|algraves:  I guess so|pg||
nt|hedyg: we will trust Patty|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: well, i can see dummy...|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|c2|pg||
nt|harmon: nice play by Grue|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|mc|8|nt|Vugraphzfc: grue:  "not the normal way to make 2"|pg||
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qx|c2|st||md|4SKTHA82DQJ943CQT4,SQJ9HKQ9DKT75CA65,SA864HJT653D86CKJ,S7532H74DA2C98732|sv|n|nt|sybarra: they are quite interesting to play agst|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: i think brd 1 looks like a swing for grue as 3NT looks cold vs the failed slam in the open room|pg||
mb|1C!|an|c b short|mb|1N|nt|vugraphzfh: Director is summoned|pg||
nt|mrdct: so what's the problem nancy?|pg||
nt|mrdct: slightly off-beat 1NT here but low risk at these colours|pg||
mb|2C!|an|majors|mb|p|nt|mrdct: 2@sx a likely contract|pg||
mb|2H|nt|mrdct: what's east doing? transferring to his singleton?|pg||
nt|mrdct: few would deny that Ish Del'Monte is Australia's best player|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: ah that's better|pg||
nt|chilloncan: E will be disappointed that dummy is so strong|pg||
nt|mslair: its got to be the @h lead|pg||
nt|sybarra: he from NZ originally right?|pg||
nt|chilloncan: yes|pg||
mb|p|nt|chilloncan: hi mark:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: dbl and then 2NT shows about 19/20 balanced generally|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: on board 1, 3nt made 5 in this room|pg||
nt|mrdct: yeah - he migrated to australian about 20 years ago|pg||
pc|d7|nt|chilloncan: shipwrecked so the story goes|pg||
nt|sybarra: egads when he was  4 yrs old?|pg||
nt|chilloncan: :)|pg||
nt|mrdct: he was about 19 or 20 at the time i think|pg||
nt|chilloncan: he has kids older than that|pg||
pc|d6|nt|frankaus: yes Ish's  best results are with ash bach - now also playing in Melbourne Aus|pg||
pc|dA|nt|mrdct: NS may fare better in 3NT here on a @s lead|pg||
nt|mrdct: NS might be having a misunderstanding here|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|mrdct: 3@H looks cold|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|mrdct: the problem here for NS is that there isn't really a source of tricks in NS as south has no entries|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|nt|chilloncan: ish also a veteran of the Rita Shugart team in US at one time|pg||
nt|chilloncan: connection there with Andrew Robson who is also a former partner and ongoing colleague of David Bakshi|pg||
nt|sybarra: he doesnt look very old|pg||
nt|sybarra: or maybe its just me getting older|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dK|nt|mrdct: he also does quite a bit with youth development in Australia on top of running a couple bridge clubs|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d2|nt|mrdct: the rip of 3@hx to 3NT should make it clear to north that south intended 3@d as natural|pg||
nt|mrdct: i think he's about 38 or 39|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|mrdct: 2 down likely here losing 2 trumps, 2@h and 1@s|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s4|nt|chilloncan: sadly we may not be so well-informned about EW, so the byplay commentary is regrettably a bit onesided|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pg||
nt|sybarra: would have guessed slightly younger,   but that sounds right|pg||
pc|h2|nt|mrdct: east ruffing a @d will be with a natual trump trick if south gets trumps right|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|nt|mrdct: ruffing a @c i mean|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|Jacki: Welcome Harmon, who will be commenting for us|pg||
nt|harmon: hi all|pg||
pc|d5|pc|hJ|pc|c2|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hA|nt|chilloncan: spec says EW have been in china's open team|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o3|st||md|1SA7HAQJ9DK732CJ63,SKJ5HK3DAT864CQ42,S2HT6542DJ9CAK985,SQT98643H87DQ5CT7|sv|e|mb|1N|nt|hedyg: the Grue way |pg||
mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|hedyg: 14-16 NT|pg||
nt|algraves:  Cheek on the boder bewteen 2@H and 3@H|pg||
mb|2S!|an|4 !Hs, but not an awful hand|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|RTRF|mb|p|nt|hedyg: or 2@s...|pg||
nt|algraves:  right so he makes an agressive bid |pg||
mb|3H|nt|algraves:  re ransfer|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
nt|algraves:  West likely to get endplayed declarer reluctance to finesse at trick one since if singleton|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|hedyg: so much for reluctance lol|pg||
nt|algraves:  South can now ruff spade while pulling trump and A and a club wins |pg||
nt|algraves:  west is trying to come up with the cards his partner needs to defeat 4@H|pg||
nt|algraves:  consistent with tthe bidding|pg||
nt|harmon: might lead low c guarding against 4-1 too|pg||
pc|h3|nt|algraves:  yes but then you also need the Ace of Diamonds onside|pg||
nt|hedyg: or a good guess when they switch|pg||
nt|algraves:  sso weinstein adopts the waiting game|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s2|nt|algraves:  once the hearts are 2-2 the 4-1 clubs are not relevantsso now Ace and a spade and a club|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|h5|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|hedyg: and claim 10|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c3|st||md|1SA7HAQJ9DK732CJ63,SKJ5HK3DAT864CQ42,S2HT6542DJ9CAK985,SQT98643H87DQ5CT7|sv|e|nt|rodal f: Hi Harmon and specs|pg||
mb|1N!|an|15-17|nt|mrdct: looks like a fairly normal game to reach on the EW cards at this vul|pg||
nt|mrdct: but neither @s nor @d are breaking|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: Hi R|pg||
mb|2D!|an|!H|nt|chilloncan: spades breaking ok, normal play brings in 3 trix|pg||
mb|p|nt|chilloncan: yet another hand with not much powder in it|pg||
mb|2H|nt|mrdct: kang off to a good start with match with a partscore swing and a beatable game on their scoresheet|pg||
nt|chilloncan: Patrick Huang of song and legend informs me that Sun was on the chinese team that finished 4th in Olympiad in turkey. patrick is a guy i am inclined to believe:)|pg||
nt|mrdct: @d come home for 4 tricks here so 7 tricks on top|pg||
nt|mrdct: but declarer will fiddle around a bit before putting all his eggs in the @d basket|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|rodal f: Easy board and a interesting point in @C|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chilloncan: preedict a make|pg||
nt|mrdct: perhaps duck a @s|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: i guess a @H lead most likely|pg||
nt|mrdct: the defence could come to 2@h, 2@d and 1@s|pg||
nt|chilloncan: i am grateful to all the specs who are deluging me with information about EW:)|pg||
nt|harmon: club lead at other table|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d5|nt|mrdct: once the @h switch comes though he'll need to play on @d|pg||
nt|sybarra: and the @D suit comes home |pg||
nt|mrdct: although delcarer may have tangled himself up here as @d a blocked if @hA is removed|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|harmon: this lead solves all problems|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dJ|nt|mrdct: in the open room declarer tried to set up @d|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|mrdct: just as is happening here|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|chilloncan: In recent years the US has been regularly graced with the participation of World Pairs winners  FU Zhong & ZHAO JIe  (known here as FU & "Lord Jack" respectively), and given the ...|pg||
nt|chilloncan: success of the Kang team to this point i am guesssing we may see a larger chinese presence here in NABCs to come|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
nt|mrdct: i think he is positioned to go down now|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|h2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|chilloncan: Fu & Jack are perennial contenders for the Gold Medal in smoking at NABCs|pg||
nt|mrdct: ok now as the 13th @s is established|pg||
pc|d6|pc|hT|pc|s4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hJ|nt|mrdct: north can even afford to not cash the setting trick and try to get it 2 down|pg||
nt|chilloncan: without 7 of diamonds, attacking that suit is more or less going for 33 break. ducking first heart and attacking spades makes u heavy favorite to get an 8th trick in spades, and ...|pg||
nt|chilloncan: playing the last two rounds of spades (or last one) may put pressure on opps|pg||
nt|mrdct: i think south will be able to cling to all of his @ss|pg||
nt|chilloncan: still i agree that attacking diamonds seems the natural line|pg||
nt|mrdct: north is just think through whether or not anything could go wrong if he doesn't cash the @dK|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|chilloncan: woiuld be interesting to compare odds of playing Ds to those of attacking clubs as well|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o4|st||md|2SAJ2HKJ8632D853C4,SK64H94DAQJT9CA93,SQT975HA7D62CKQ82,S83HQT5DK74CJT765|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|algraves:  west has a good hand|pg||
mb|2H|nt|algraves:  regardless of the range that is a strong NT|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|algraves:  one way or another this will make of course|pg||
pc|s4|nt|hedyg: nice selfcontrol by Grue|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|h2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|cA|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|dQ|pc|s5|pc|hT|pg||
pc|d3|nt|algraves:  so Weinstein realized that if he won @C A he would not get @S|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d6|nt|algraves:  so it was a trade|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2SAJ2HKJ8632D853C4,SK64H94DAQJT9CA93,SQT975HA7D62CKQ82,S83HQT5DK74CJT765|sv|b|nt|mrdct: EW in 2@h in the open room|pg||
mb|1N!|an|14-17|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: NS can make 3@c so this could be OK for Grue|pg||
mb|2D|an|1 major|nt|mrdct: an agressive (or insane) EW pair might try for a VUL 3NT here|pg||
nt|mrdct: in fact 3NT might make for NS|pg||
mb|d|nt|rodal f: 20-20 and 2@H as end?|pg||
mb|2H!|an|p/c|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|mrdct: missed a pass there i think|pg||
nt|sybarra: yep think a pass needs to be inserted|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: swap the NS hands and 3NT is cold|pg||
nt|rodal f: 1NT-P-P-2@H in OR.|pg||
mb|p|pc|c4|nt|dburn: the ace of spades is onside for del Monte, but that's the end of the good news|pg||
nt|rodal f: Hi David.|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|nt|chilloncan: single digit percent game if u swap the hands|pg||
nt|mrdct: this will be welcome steadier for Grue as they lost quite a lot of imps towards the end of the 3rd session and a small swing on the 1st of this session|pg||
nt|sybarra: always get difficult with bbo program to "lead out of turn"  etc|pg||
nt|chilloncan: all the hands so far in this set have been teeth-gnashers for the trailing team, little scope for rally|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hJ|nt|mrdct: i think test @c first and then once you have the good news go after @d|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|sybarra: yes but was that typical play for the club suit?|pg||
nt|mrdct: but may have better to finish in dummy|pg||
nt|sybarra: you said it better David|pg||
pc|hK|pc|d9|pc|s5|nt|mrdct: although - maybe what south did was better as it gave LHO a chance to err and duck the @dK|pg||
nt|frankaus: 11 will get 13 imps 10 only 12|pg||
nt|mrdct: in which case he could then revert to @s and make 11 tricks|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: West is deliberating|pg||
nt|frankaus: must cash @S or 11 |pg||
pc|dT|nt|mrdct: basically he was assuming @DK was offside for east's pass|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|nt|mrdct: he'd like to avoid playing on @h himself|pg||
nt|dburn: not sure the defenders actually want to be doing this - would have been better to take the club ruffs|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d7|mc|8|nt|dburn: and Fleisher could perhaps have known that his partner's lead was a singleton|pg||
pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3S53HAQ6DKT9CQJ865,S92HT82DAQ543CA72,SAKJ6H754DJ872C93,SQT874HKJ93D6CKT4|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|algraves:  so on board 1 the contract was 3@D X but misdefended for only down one|pg||
nt|algraves:  1@D could be only 2 so the lead is automatic|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg||
nt|algraves:  South want to start clubs from dummy|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg||
nt|007 joosth: why hurry here?|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|h7|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c8|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|s4|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3S53HAQ6DKT9CQJ865,S92HT82DAQ543CA72,SAKJ6H754DJ872C93,SQT874HKJ93D6CKT4|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|c b short|mb|1D|nt|mrdct: 4@sx goes 2 down i think|pg||
nt|mrdct: in one of the sadest days of my bridge life i loss a 128 match to Ish Del'Monte many years ago 320-321|pg||
nt|chilloncan: when he tells the story he won by 2|pg||
mb|1H!|an|!S|nt|mrdct: can anyone make anything here?|pg||
mb|1N|nt|mrdct: not a disaster|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: ish will be please that the @d shortage is with the long trumps|pg||
nt|mrdct: 2@c might scape home|pg||
nt|dburn: del Monte getting to 1NT ahead of his opponents - usually a good move at this vulnerability|pg||
nt|harmon: except if flescher says dble|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: *pleased|pg||
nt|chilloncan: 4S a bit dangerous at the colors, but with a big lead Ishmael probably figuring his teammates will face that opening in the other room|pg||
pc|c6|nt|dburn: probably too soon after breakfast to double - not that hungry yet|pg||
nt|harmon: unfortunate but normal lead|pg||
nt|dburn: the Italians have a theory that you should lead high from this kind of suit if your third card is the eight or better|pg||
nt|rodal f: So we can say it is stolen by EW|pg||
nt|dburn: judging by this, they know what they are talking about|pg||
nt|dburn: mind you, there is some other evidence that the Italians know what they are talking about|pg||
pc|c7|nt|sybarra: 2 @d might be a challenge|pg||
nt|mrdct: but i think south is happier defending 2@d|pg||
nt|mrdct: 2@dW is the open room contract|pg||
pc|c9|nt|mrdct: well curtis cheek made 2@d - let's see how sun goes|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|frankaus: 90 in the bank looks good|pg||
nt|dburn: but del Monte may even make this now|pg||
nt|dburn: he can set up two hearts to go with three clubs and two diamonds, and I don't think the defenders can get enough tricks in time|pg||
nt|rodal f: If E play @H now we are right David.|pg||
nt|dburn: mind you, he has to play hearts from his hand, giving up on the finesse, and he may be reluctant to do that|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: finfering @H|pg||
nt|harmon: he can finesse d's still be ok|pg||
pc|h3|nt|mrdct: north might try to sneak a @c through to the K but I doubt that will work|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: Ish asking questions of JJ Wang - about carding and the X|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg||
nt|dburn: good shot|pg||
nt|rodal f: 210 give a 5IMPer.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|dburn: maybe he could have finessed in diamonds, but if he'd done that and the defence cleared diamonds when in with @hQ, he might have had some uncomfortable discards to make from hand|pg||
pc|cA|nt|vugraphzfh: 4H is a penalty card from E before playing JS|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
nt|mrdct: declarer can't reallt make use of the penalty card|pg||
nt|mrdct: yes - well done kibitzers pointing out that "the sun goes down"|pg||
pc|hT|nt|mrdct: actually he can|pg||
nt|mrdct: he can demand west cash the @HK|pg||
nt|mrdct: but then west will be allowed to switch to a @c i think|pg||
nt|mrdct: hang-on i'm confusing myself|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|s6|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s3|nt|tejjyid: yes, well, the sun also rises|pg||
pc|d3|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|nt|chilloncan: ecclesiastes|pg||
nt|mrdct: almost as often as it goes down|pg||
nt|tejjyid: I thought it was HEmingway:)|pg||
nt|chilloncan: he pilfered the greatest book in the Old testament|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|mc|7|nt|vugraphzfh: Break|pg||
nt|dburn: well done - 5 IMPs to Grue who deserved them|pg||
pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4SAJ842HK8DK6CQ962,S5HA96532DAQ92CJT,S963HQJ4DT8754C85,SKQT7HT7DJ3CAK743|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|algraves:  so WEST can fish around with 3@D or show non forcing length via 3@H|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: that @H suit is not good enough for 3@H|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg||
nt|algraves:  there was no defense but the T9X of @S from North would have been much more helpful to them|pg||
nt|algraves:  well may be their is a defense , sorry about that|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|nt|hedyg: run a @H|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|cT|nt|algraves:  he may have had to play het Kiing|pg||
pc|c5|nt|hedyg: hmm, ok dont|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg||
nt|algraves:  @h K and middle @S is best |pg||
nt|hedyg: J@S|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|hedyg: if he ducks this..|pg||
nt|hedyg: playing on @H worked better here than play on @cs|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|h5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|h6|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dQ|mc|7|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SAJ842HK8DK6CQ962,S5HA96532DAQ92CJT,S963HQJ4DT8754C85,SKQT7HT7DJ3CAK743|sv|e|nt|mrdct: won huge result for grue in the open room here|pg||
nt|mrdct: north in 3NT on a @s lead in the open room|pg||
nt|tejjyid: So, AMrshall, any chance you are a fan of Zelazny?|pg||
mb|1C|an|c b short|mb|1S|nt|rodal f: Interesting hand at EW|pg||
mb|2H|nt|mrdct: what's another name for AKQJ10x?|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|chilloncan: can see S wrestling this one from N|pg||
nt|mrdct: trumps|pg||
nt|chilloncan: can't see...|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: a competitive auction without the opponents bidding|pg||
nt|dburn: 4@h may be a better spot than 3NT, but there is plenty of work to do|pg||
nt|rodal f: Agree.|pg||
nt|dburn: only three losers, but not necessarily ten winners|pg||
mb|3C|nt|chilloncan: EW wont be happy with this deal either, pathetic grist to the mill of recovery|pg||
nt|mrdct: so grue might have right-sided it here|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: 1@s, 2@h, 3@d & 3@C|pg||
nt|frankaus: 9 quickly here - 3@h, 3@C, 3@d|pg||
nt|chilloncan: havent read zelazny|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|mrdct: even more interesting is that Curtis Cheek lead the @C4 in the other room and mustn't have been feeling too good when dummy came down|pg||
nt|mrdct: ish might introduce his @c suit now - but at what level|pg||
nt|mrdct: 5@c might be passed so perhaps 6@c now|pg||
nt|mwigor: surely 5@c would be a cue|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: 3@C alerted but no explanation|pg||
mb|p|nt|chilloncan: not many partnerships play 2H as Michaels by responder:)|pg||
nt|mrdct: Ish stick with the theory that @S = trumps|pg||
nt|mrdct: grue fans might be content with 10 imps here with NS stopping in game|pg||
nt|mrdct: is east thinking?|pg||
mb|4H|nt|vugraphzfh: sorry, no, it's S thinking|pg||
nt|mrdct: i would be too!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: i don't think NS have previosuly discussed this sequence|pg||
nt|mrdct: only danger now is will NS bid grand|pg||
nt|chilloncan: david's prowess will not be tested to the fullest on this layout|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: maybe a transfer - quite popular these days|pg||
pc|s3|nt|chilloncan: 5S = do you have a club control    6C  = yes the ace|pg||
nt|mrdct: @s is still trumps|pg||
nt|dburn: at any rate, after a spade to the king and ace South will feel a little victimized|pg||
nt|dburn: he won't want to play anything, but a heart is his best choice|pg||
nt|dburn: even that, though, may not be enough|pg||
nt|rodal f: If. He have a good return. @H.|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
nt|mrdct: well north-south have navigated this one to a makeable slam and a big swing|pg||
nt|mwigor: barbara travis points out that the play in 6@s is far from a formality|pg||
nt|chilloncan: dont think so, N need too many cover cards|pg||
nt|mwigor: declarer may well lose control|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: Les mumbling and grumbling|pg||
nt|chilloncan: in that order?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: yes|pg||
nt|mrdct: in the other room declarer played the @SK from dummy at trick 1 which didn't work out so well|pg||
nt|dburn: if he plays a low heart, he will be victimized again after ace and another|pg||
nt|dburn: if he plays a high heart, declarer can ruff a diamond in the dummy|pg||
nt|rodal f: Ure so right:)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: recurring theme for me..... players are 20+ minutes behind on clock|pg||
nt|dburn: the queen of clubs has also been suggested, but even that isn't any good|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c8|nt|frankaus: 11 more for the leaders|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|rodal f: Done now if W do his work.|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d2|nt|mrdct: indeed he is going to lose control of trumps|pg||
nt|dburn: still. Amoils can't see all the cards|pg||
pc|d7|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
pc|c2|nt|chilloncan: had N cashed D ace before ruffing (double dummy), W would have to exit heart king on gaining lead with club king|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|nt|dburn: so he will just try to ruff a diamond on the table and get overruffed by the short trumps|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
mc|9|nt|mrdct: looks like win @cA and exit a @c stright-away was the winning line|pg||
nt|mwigor: or low at trick one is ok i think|pg||
nt|chilloncan: N was worried about club ruff, and was cold whenever sopades 43, so he didnt play second club|pg||
nt|mwigor: but declarer's play is understandable|pg||
nt|dburn: another 13 IMPs to GIB, but only three to Grue|pg||
pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1S632HQ6DKQ4CAK632,SQTHJT8752DJ86C98,SK8H93D9532CQT754,SAJ9754HAK4DAT7CJ|sv|b|nt|algraves:  exciting|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d!|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|hedyg: very little on the system summary|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1NT was 14-16|pg||
nt|algraves:  Leving could have made the last hand by playing south for 5224 and taking @D Q then three more clubs putting cheek on lead|pg||
nt|hedyg: double looked like hcps|pg||
nt|algraves:  in the end game|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|hedyg: no idea what 2@c is|pg||
nt|algraves:  and also make if clubs 3-3 and diamonds 4-3|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: levin: we may have missed a slam|pg||
nt|algraves:  they play a form of dont so double was one suit and 2@C asked which|pg||
nt|hedyg: they may have indeed|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s8|pg||
pc|hT|mc|12|pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1S632HQ6DKQ4CAK632,SQTHJT8752DJ86C98,SK8H93D9532CQT754,SAJ9754HAK4DAT7CJ|sv|b|nt|mrdct: 4@s by west in the open room|pg||
mb|1C!|an|c b short|nt|chilloncan: another unproductive layout for hungry trailers|pg||
nt|rodal f: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: NS reached an inferior 3@h contract here after north made a t/o dbl of 1@s|pg||
nt|chilloncan: maybe 5 or 6 IMPs at most|pg||
nt|mrdct: and a @C lead trouble 4@S?|pg||
nt|mrdct: in fact 4@s doesn't really have any play|pg||
nt|mrdct: 4@h the better chance|pg||
nt|frankaus: to me it looks like a lot of losers for red 2@d  |pg||
nt|chilloncan: one doesnt get a buzz from opening weak 2D on this S hand, 6322 vul, but the thing is on the card...|pg||
mb|1S!|an|no major|mb|d|nt|mrdct: illustrating the general preference to play in a 4-4 fit rather than a 5-3 fit as you get some pitches|pg||
nt|dburn: still, that brings the scores to the point where the last six boards have been a waste of time|pg||
nt|dburn: quite a lot of time, at that|pg||
mb|2C|nt|mrdct: south has to decide whether to go for his major or his better suit|pg||
nt|mrdct: that might be 3@c by north|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|nt|frankaus: 800 by the looks of it|pg||
nt|mrdct: Ish taking an advance save|pg||
nt|mrdct: which is going to go for 800 I think |pg||
nt|rodal f: Interesting cards again David?|pg||
mb|3S|nt|chilloncan: a lot of the bids chosen by NS here are probably motivated by a belief that opps in other room will push very aggressively, so attempting to duplicate those tactical siutuations|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: Ish: "good luck"|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: well, East-West have a game if they can bid it|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: but I am not sure they can - or at any rate will|pg||
pc|cK|nt|mrdct: 3@s has 5 losers i think|pg||
nt|dburn: but I'm a bit surprised del Monte chose 3@s rather than double|pg||
pc|c8|nt|chilloncan: my own feeling is that 11 loser hands should not bid, even when they can raise 1S to two and even when they have a stronger way to do it|pg||
nt|chilloncan: but here NS have 130 anyway|pg||
pc|c4|nt|chilloncan: maybe 110 with handling charges caused by 41 trumps|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|nt|dburn: 1@s was a transfer response, of course, so his first double showed spades|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|s5|pg||
nt|dburn: or maybe his first double just showed a good hand, so he hadn't shown his spades yet|pg||
nt|rodal f: Belive he got a problem with the 1@S bid at N.|pg||
nt|rodal f: Stole'd my color.|pg||
nt|dburn: becoming very popular, these transfer responses to 1@c - important to get the methods organized|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|chilloncan: seems more prudent to play high trump in dummy, as low ones may be needed to ruff spades|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sK|pg||
nt|mrdct: in a way this is a good board for grue as they have duplicated bad results in both rooms which compresses the damage|pg||
nt|dburn: still, this game was a tough assignment in any case|pg||
pc|d9|nt|dburn: it appears that 2@s might have made six at the other table, so the score is actually 230 for Fleisher|pg||
nt|rodal f: A small loose anyway, but are we to hook @D or try @H 2-2?|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
nt|007 joosth: even more wasted time now:)   (okay  1 imp)   but we enjoyed your comments David|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|mrdct: but they don't want too many of these "good boards" for the rest of this match|pg||
pc|s6|nt|chilloncan: thanks to spec for pointing out that spades are trumps|pg||
pc|h2|nt|dburn: but without a spade lead, I don't see 12 tricks in spades - hearts is a different matter|pg||
mc|11|nt|harmon: 6 unlikely unless trump lead|pg||
nt|rodal f: Hi Joost.|pg||
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qx|o8|st||md|2S976432HK76D54CK6,SJT8HAQ9D987CQ732,SQHJT84DKQ63CJT85,SAK5H532DAJT2CA94|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfc: yeah, they said 13, then said 12... it's corrected|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: specs suggesting this was a cappelletti auction with X showing any 1suiter and 2@c asking|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|nt|Vugraphzfc: weinstein: sorry i overbid this hand to make up ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: or not capp but similar, direct 2@s would eb a weaker hand|pg||
nt|algraves:  note on the lasst hand that it is often best not to disclose a minor suit fit when the opps have the majors as it just helps them evaluate|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|nt|algraves:  so Cheek did well not to compete in clubs, letting sleeping dogs lie|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|nt|hedyg: 1NT= 14-17|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s9|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h4|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dJ|mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfc: break ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok coffee anybody?|pg||
nt|algraves:  no squeeze as cheek keeps @h and Grue @C|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yeah well i bet they won't bring me one and bet they won't even smoke one for me ;)|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: but the good news ... i have a coke right here!|pg||
nt|hedyg: it is a long way to go outside to smoke|pg||
nt|hedyg: oh good|pg||
nt|hedyg: smoking areas no longer exist|pg||
nt|algraves:  you know I have to say the BBO web portal is really elegant, I have just switched over from the windows download and can use my mac for BBO|pg||
nt|hedyg: and you like it!|pg||
nt|hedyg: some of us find it hard to switch over|pg||
nt|algraves:  you know I must say the BBO web based portal is really elegant. I  just switched over  from the downloaded windows version. and can now use my mac.  Of course I could have done this a few years ago but I am very careful in my habits|pg||
nt|algraves:  I will play better on my Mac ? great finally a solution|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: ok, so we're not an advertisement for mac or for pc here... |pg||
nt|algraves:  well some interesting hands of course , so far|pg||
nt|algraves:  Fleisher by 3 after 5 boards but Grue has two good plus positions on 6 and 7 and 8 seems normal|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hi!|pg||
nt|hedyg: welcome David :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Welcome to David Bird! |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: players are just returning to the table|pg||
nt|algraves:  hello David|pg||
nt|hedyg: smelling of smoke|pg||
pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2S976432HK76D54CK6,SJT8HAQ9D987CQ732,SQHJT84DKQ63CJT85,SAK5H532DAJT2CA94|sv|o|nt|chilloncan: i idiotically was playing the contract that io said NS could make:):)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: Ish: "sorry"|pg||
nt|frankaus: if -14 is a good board then i hate to have a bad board|pg||
nt|007 joosth: Hi|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfh: director has urged table to play faster|pg||
nt|mwigor: going back to the slam - i think ducking the club lead is 63% and playing for 4-3 trumps is 62%|pg||
nt|sybarra: this hand will be exciting|pg||
nt|mrdct: EW have 10 tricks in @h|pg||
mb|p|nt|mwigor: so any small feeling about the lead (ie that it is a singleton) is enough to swing it|pg||
mb|1N!|an|14-17|nt|mrdct: on that hand moss also lead a @C and Kamil took the same line as Ish for -1|pg||
nt|chilloncan: yes it is tricky to know how to assess the likelihood of singleton from the fact that a club was led, as the auction made that lead a substantial favorite to hit the baize|pg||
nt|chilloncan: 1C is a very dangerous bid, just begging to be blown out of the auction|pg||
nt|mrdct: but NS have 6@c on ice|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: boring hand maybe they take less than 20min on it|pg||
mb|3N|nt|mrdct: when hampson delcarer in 6@s, he got a @h lead and could simply duck that and easily cater for @S5-2|pg||
nt|mrdct: not a bad game here for NS so a chance for Grue to extend the lead|pg||
nt|chilloncan: easily? if heart loses he does not necessarily have enough discards if spades go bad|pg||
nt|mrdct: same auction so far in the open room|pg||
nt|mrdct: 5@h passed around to south who dbls|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: apparently a trump was led, though - still, it will all come out in the wash|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|nt|chilloncan: W hand may not seem like a 3D raise, but there is a tactice benefit as it takes opps above the level where they can support double|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|nt|mrdct: only if @h 5-1 i think (but what would I know!)|pg||
nt|mrdct: and it's 5@hx in both rooms|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
nt|chilloncan: spec points out that the "scare value" of the strong club actually fnctioned as an inverted preempt here,|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|nt|rodal f: Lucky layout? And =?|pg||
pc|d3|nt|chilloncan: yes hence the "not necessarily"|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|rodal f: Turn NS hand and....|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d6|nt|chilloncan: sadly we are unlikely ever to amass a sizeable enough database to decide whether the tactic is worth repeating|pg||
nt|tejjyid: North needs to be careful|pg||
nt|mrdct: how can NS go wrong here?|pg||
nt|tejjyid: NS must cash the @D now|pg||
nt|mrdct: why - what declarer going to do with his @d losers otherwise?|pg||
nt|tejjyid: put one on the @S suit|pg||
nt|tejjyid: he has 3 entries|pg||
nt|tejjyid: so if North overtakes...|pg||
nt|tejjyid: to do something other than leading a @D..|pg||
nt|mrdct: i guess stranger things have happened - but it would seem to only make sense for north to overtake if he had an absoluely clearcut action to take that partner either wont realise ...|pg||
nt|mrdct: or wont have the card|pg||
nt|tejjyid: I agree with all that - so why the delay?|pg||
nt|mrdct: maybe he's having trouble counting up west's 16 hcp|pg||
nt|tejjyid: West doesn't actualy have the canonical 16 HCP, so this is hard for NOrth to read|pg||
nt|tejjyid: Maybe the internet is broken|pg||
nt|mrdct: north will be worried that perhaps west has a @d honour so he can't see an obvious way to beat this|pg||
nt|harmon: I hope they get a time penalty this is ridiculous|pg||
pc|dA|nt|chilloncan: admittedly the duck has big odds in its favor|pg||
nt|mrdct: the internet being broken is always an option in play in these situations|pg||
nt|tejjyid: Maybe North is broken|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d8|nt|vugraphzfh: true, but not this time|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|s3|nt|tejjyid: well done, anyway, after all the anguish|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: 50 minutes (of 75) left in next segment|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h6|nt|tejjyid: oh...|pg||
nt|dburn: could fine them both 9 IMPs and start again, I guess|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h8|nt|vugraphzfh: short break|pg||
nt|tejjyid: I guess that doesn't represent reality|pg||
nt|tejjyid: but the result is correct|pg||
nt|mrdct: i suspect so also|pg||
nt|tejjyid: A lot to be said for a 6@C call from South|pg||
nt|mrdct: so tense stuff here with a couple of lost opportunties for NS in recent boards|pg||
nt|tejjyid: who cares if it goes down, it's not at all stressful & probably cost 5 imps at worst|pg||
nt|chilloncan: plenty to be said when you see N hand|pg||
nt|chilloncan: ish could have less for 5C bid|pg||
nt|tejjyid: ISh could have been missing the @S A forexample|pg||
nt|tejjyid: I think it was SJ Simon who said not to defend these hands|pg||
nt|mrdct: F leading 158-112 in the other semi|pg||
nt|tejjyid: you gamble with double doubled game/slam swings when you defend|pg||
nt|tejjyid: Mind you, that means this board wil be flat in 7@H X-ed, if both sides follow his advice|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|c6|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg||
mc|9|nt|rodal f: David and Harmon are hard persons as might TD also will be.|pg||
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qx|o9|st||md|3SK8543H963DK85CQJ,SAJ92HQ872D743C64,SQ7H5DAQT62CKT752,ST6HAKJT4DJ9CA983|sv|e|nt|brolucius: Hi, Hedy. I logged on to see when the start time was and saw that they had already started.|pg||
nt|algraves:  David is fine player from England who writes very good bride stories|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|hedyg: yes the schedule on the BBO page was changed a few hours ago|pg||
nt|brolucius: I was just browsing the semi-final BBO records.|pg||
mb|d|mb|3D|nt|algraves:  EW very close to 4@H|pg||
nt|algraves:  NS one down in 5@D|pg||
nt|brolucius: West will have several bids available to him to describe heart raises.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|algraves:  the double showed @S|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: 3@D is obviously not one of the strong ones, since East has signed off in 3@H.|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|hedyg: transfer bid maybe|pg||
nt|algraves:  hmm|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|nt|algraves:  well done by NS|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: dbl of 1@H showed 4 or more @ss|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|brolucius: A well-judged auction all round. Well done.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 3@D 6-9 or so, 4 @Hs|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: grue couldn't double 3@D 'cuz that's conventional|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty Patty|pg||
pc|h3|nt|brolucius: The key action was North's 4@C. Many players would think: 'I'd better not risk pushing them into game.'|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h5|pg||
nt|algraves:  Grue has to be his normal careful self here as the clubs are blocked and he is getting tapped|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d9|nt|algraves:  no more problems now |pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dA|mc|10|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SK8543H963DK85CQJ,SAJ92HQ872D743C64,SQ7H5DAQT62CKT752,ST6HAKJT4DJ9CA983|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|chilloncan: nice 3S bid by ish, treating his chunky doubleton and 3 aces bullishly|pg||
mb|1S|mb|3D!|an|!H raise|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tejjyid: creative, but implausible|pg||
nt|chilloncan: operator?|pg||
nt|chilloncan: pass missed|pg||
nt|tejjyid: operator, can u check the auction please?|pg||
nt|rodal f: 20-20 again and EW by the partscore?|pg||
mb|5C|nt|rodal f: Nope.|pg||
nt|gambit: Hi All, |pg||
mb|d|nt|mrdct: a kib has asked if the correct styling of north's name is Delmonte, Del'Monte, del'Monte, Del Monte or del Monte - i'm not 100% sure myself|pg||
nt|mwigor: i believe Del'Monte|pg||
nt|chilloncan: some would be uncomfortable opening 2C with stiff king and short spades, but at these colors opps are just going to let you bid. if opps NV, 2C  risks obstruction|pg||
nt|mrdct: 1@C lead might save an imp|pg||
nt|chilloncan: 5D a better spot, but 3N will fetch|pg||
nt|mrdct: west will have a slightly uncomfortable time finding 5 discards on the run of the @d suit|pg||
nt|tejjyid: Del Monte did produce one of the best bids I've seen in a sacrifice auction earlier today - this 3@H bid would top it though, if real|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: sorry, connection is slow so it didn't get the Pass I typed and I was distracted discussing the ridiculous start time tomorrow!|pg||
mb|5D|mb|d|mb|p|nt|tejjyid: np, thankless job you have|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|dburn: this is a phantom, and a somewhat unilateral decision by Fleisher|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
nt|mrdct: (there you go it isn't thankless anymore)|pg||
nt|harmon: looks like 6 to grue|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s3|nt|dburn: still, he could easily have been right|pg||
pc|s2|nt|mrdct: thanks operator|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|nt|tejjyid: es, well done :)|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dK|mc|10|pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SAT8H4DT763CA9632,SKQ5HQTDAKJ4CJ854,SJ976HAJ532DQCKQ7,S432HK9876D9852CT|sv|b|nt|algraves:  the reason to use X of 1H as 4 + @S is for two reasons, first is thte transfer effect as the extra room it gives|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|algraves:  second is the now 1@S can be sometihing else like Trnasfer to NT , ie I have a balanced hand , bid NT|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|algraves:  yes David that was well judged all around|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|algraves:  3@H was limit of hand|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: @H, @H to beat last one|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: This is the second consecutive board on which we have seen how reluctant these top players are to allow the other side to choose trumps at a low level.|pg||
pc|cT|nt|brolucius: They compete to the hilt.|pg||
nt|algraves:  note that acting with shortness in opps suit in a competitive auction is the way to go|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg||
nt|brolucius: Also interesting that North was not willing to defend 2@H on his hand.|pg||
nt|brolucius: He expected to have a 4-4 spade fit after partner's double, no doubt.|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@HX= is game, too dangerous|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg||
nt|algraves:  well , you never want to hang partner for competing|pg||
nt|algraves:  this is an interesting play hand|pg||
nt|algraves:  Grue is pretty sure the @C was singleton as TX not a lead that would have been made|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|s2|nt|algraves:  so he prepares his ruffing game|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
nt|algraves:  when planning the play as declarer in a potential ruffing type plan always count winners , not losers|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|nt|algraves:  Grue might like to have that @C Q back|pg||
nt|hedyg: some players always count losersand some always winners|pg||
nt|brolucius: Usually you count losers in a suit contract and winners in notrump.|pg||
mc|6|nt|algraves:  well if you are playing to score trump tricks it is much better to count winners|pg||
pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SAT8H4DT763CA9632,SKQ5HQTDAKJ4CJ854,SJ976HAJ532DQCKQ7,S432HK9876D9852CT|sv|b|nt|rodal f: Could it be a feel for safeteness from Fleisher?|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: so grue wins an imp|pg||
nt|mrdct: personally - i'm not a great fan of the trend to "evenings off" and prefer to be able to sleep-in|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N!|an|14-17|nt|mrdct: -1100 in the other room will be costly for Kang|pg||
nt|mrdct: can't see it gaining imps|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: All we've asked is that the Sunday start not be more than an hour earlier than the Saturday start - started today at 1:00 and 8:00, but tomorrow is scheduled for 11 am|pg||
nt|chilloncan: probably another underdog-unfriendly deal|pg||
nt|tejjyid: nicely put, DAvid|pg||
nt|pelepele: tough for players as well !|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: Ish is playing very slowly today, because he's sick - this room is (too me) quite warm, but he's huddled in a hooded sweatshirt|pg||
nt|rodal f: But as often before. A tell B if u open the bid.|pg||
mb|2C!|an|majors|nt|mwigor: ish did not throw a heart on the last @d|pg||
mb|p|nt|chilloncan: I fronted him some Umcka...if his team wins, i expect to be in the closing credits as medical provider|pg||
nt|tejjyid: It's not hurting his game any|pg||
nt|mrdct: the wounded bull gets stronger|pg||
nt|chilloncan: michaels, then INV + spade raise i reckon|pg||
mb|2S|nt|mrdct: so webby is this a hand where you can't afford to defend 4@s?|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: 4@s not a bad contract here|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|tejjyid: No, Simon was taking about wilder hands, and the 5/6 level as well|pg||
nt|dburn: why should they go down in their seven-card fit when we can go down in ours?|pg||
pc|dA|nt|chilloncan: not sure about 4H by S. give LHO a chance to bid 3S|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|tejjyid: South is very flat|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
nt|dburn: mind you, maybe 2@h wasn't actually going down - cards lying quite well for it|pg||
pc|d4|nt|mrdct: but hard to deal with the 4-1 break|pg||
pc|s6|nt|mrdct: stuck his neck out but EW failed to chop it off|pg||
nt|frankaus: 1100 in the bank will give Grue some change here|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pg||
nt|mrdct: not enough entries to effect a trump coup|pg||
nt|mwigor: in the real world you're going to have played the Ace and King of trumps before you find out one is necessary - at which point you're already down|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h2|nt|chilloncan: u know 4S is coming, so either bid 5H or pass|pg||
nt|mrdct: F 164-118 in the other semi|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s8|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|nt|mrdct: with that 3rd round of @c declarer can pick up the trumps now|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|s4|pc|c3|nt|mrdct: 17 imps swing between making this and going down|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: S asking W questions about leads|pg||
nt|mwigor: defense is hard - getting the @cQ ruffed could have been crucial on other layouts|pg||
nt|mwigor: on this layout it has given declarer a chance when in practice he had none|pg||
nt|mrdct: like swpa the @S7 & 6|pg||
nt|mrdct: swap|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dK|nt|mrdct: the money moment|pg||
nt|mrdct: these are the sorts of decisions that teams leading 144-86 tend to get right|pg||
nt|mwigor: would JJ have seen the need to ruff with @s9 holding 9xx of trumps?|pg||
nt|mwigor: thats what this comes down to in a way|pg||
nt|mrdct: indeed - a useful clue for south|pg||
nt|mrdct: although the auto-pilot practice in that situation is to ruff high|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d8|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|s2|pc|c6|pg||
pc|hK|pc|c9|pc|cJ|mc|7|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1SA9HA742DJ76C8652,SK32HQJT95D54CQJ3,SQ4HK63DQT82CAT94,SJT8765H8DAK93CK7|sv|o|nt|brolucius: Yes, that is the exception.|pg||
nt|brolucius: If you hold A-K-5-4-2 in trumps and can take some low ruffs in your hand, then low trumps will become winners.|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: to watch the other table as well: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: But watching two tables at the same time can easily give you a headache, particularly if you are as old as I am...|pg||
nt|algraves:  good defense by Weinstein last hand|pg||
pc|c5|nt|brolucius: 2@C is the Drury convention, showing a sound spade raise.|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|brolucius: The aim is to stay at the two-level when partner has opened a bit light in the 3rd or 4th seat.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Levin: 'At the two-level on this hand? I don't think so.'|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|nt|hedyg: now disc the @H loser|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|s2|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|h8|pc|c6|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|s5|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sJ|mc|10|pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1SA9HA742DJ76C8652,SK32HQJT95D54CQJ3,SQ4HK63DQT82CAT94,SJT8765H8DAK93CK7|sv|o|nt|mrdct: we might see NS try for slam here|pg||
nt|chilloncan: this S collection will have to do until a good hand comes along|pg||
nt|chilloncan: 6H by S tha target|pg||
nt|dburn: 3 to Fleisher for saving a trick|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|mrdct: NS use 2@h as the negative|pg||
nt|chilloncan: but play a bit tricky|pg||
nt|mrdct: this make on a @C lead|pg||
nt|frankaus: do I hear female vocals ?|pg||
mb|d|nt|mrdct: so @h will be wrong-sided|pg||
nt|dburn: and a game for which East-West don't have the high-card values, but the distribution is fine|pg||
nt|dburn: sometimes, games like that get doubled|pg||
mb|2S|nt|mrdct: missed a pass there i think operator|pg||
nt|rodal f: 3rd 20-20er at this segment.|pg||
nt|rodal f: 3 loosers but winners?|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: Cheek had no reason to double it because Grue didn't open the North hand|pg||
nt|chorush: Potential big swing to Fleisher as 4S requires guessing the spades and then some. I don't think it will be reached here|pg||
mb|3S|nt|chilloncan: cant speak to that|pg||
nt|tejjyid: 49 imps, 6 boards....|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: west thinking of raising?|pg||
pc|c5|nt|mwigor: play in 6@h is fairly simple - if they lead a spade you go down - if they dont you make|pg||
nt|chilloncan: not really so simple i think|pg||
nt|mrdct: yeah - can ruff a @C high back to hand|pg||
nt|chilloncan: u have to get to dummy to draw last heart|pg||
nt|mwigor: well its your hand|pg||
nt|mwigor: from South 6@h is cold|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|vugraphzfh: E didn't realize it was his lead|pg||
nt|chilloncan: sorry my computer is very slow so big delay in my comments hitting the screen|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
nt|rodal f: Wonder how 4@S runned in. @HA and K hooked?|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg||
nt|mrdct: we are likely to see Ish Del'MOnte in action again on BBO next weekend for the Australian Open Team playoffs where his team will probably start favourites|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|s2|pc|dT|pg||
nt|tejjyid: quality warm up|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|h8|pc|c6|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2ST9853HAKDT6432CQ,SKJ6HJ5432DAQ9CK6,SAQ4HQT8D75CA9842,S72H976DKJ8CJT753|sv|n|mb|1N|nt|hedyg: 14-17|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|brolucius: I was looking at some statistical output the other day and it claimed that when you open a 15-17 point 1NT you are twice as likely to hold 15 points as 17 points. That's a bit ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: surprising.|pg||
nt|hedyg: it is|pg||
nt|algraves:  so @D and a Major|pg||
mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Obviously it would be more likely that you had 15 points, being nearer the average of 10 points. But it is still surprising that the difference is so much.|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|algraves:  so 4@H will make|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|algraves:  4@S I mean|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 4@s|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves:  everything breaks and trump finesse works|pg||
pc|h2|nt|brolucius: A witty kibitzer tells me: Nowadays, when you open a 15-17 nt, you are twice as likely to hold 14!|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|imp_jan: @d 3-3, hi folks btw|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h6|nt|hedyg: hi Jan :)|pg||
nt|imp_jan: very thin game but prob made|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|hedyg: nothing was stopping Grue|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|d5|nt|brolucius: This is another deal where Al would be counting winners, even though in a suit contract.|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|s3|pg||
nt|algraves:  lol well I would mostly be praying for some luck and the play is straightforward enough|pg||
nt|hedyg: if Levin was ruffing @D Weinstein would have played one|pg||
nt|brolucius: You find that praying for luck works OK?|pg||
nt|algraves:  well I have been reading your stories|pg||
nt|hedyg: never works for me :(|pg||
nt|brolucius: I have never seen it recommended in the text books.|pg||
nt|hedyg: your monks pray?|pg||
nt|brolucius: I expect so.|pg||
nt|algraves:  he is wondering if he can make this hand if Levin has @S KX and Weinsstein AK@D|pg||
nt|brolucius: West might have led a diamond from A-K.|pg||
nt|algraves:  well he bid @D |pg||
nt|hedyg: hardly|pg||
nt|hedyg: but he might have led a @s then|pg||
nt|algraves:  uncle|pg||
nt|algraves:  then what do you think he is thining about?|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|s4|pc|dK|pg||
pc|h8|nt|hedyg: just checking all options|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s5|nt|hedyg: and i mean all|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s8|nt|algraves:  so he shrugs his shoulders and tells himself it is quite Ok to belucky|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2ST9853HAKDT6432CQ,SKJ6HJ5432DAQ9CK6,SAQ4HQT8D75CA9842,S72H976DKJ8CJT753|sv|n|nt|mrdct: cheek-grue went for a number in the open room - can NS make anything?|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|dburn: North-South's turn to make a game on no points|pg||
nt|dburn: this one vulnerable, moreover|pg||
nt|rodal f: Interesting hand NS.|pg||
mb|2H|nt|tejjyid: only double dummy|pg||
nt|dburn: pre-balancing time|pg||
nt|gambit: maybe EW will steal one back |pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: 4@s a phantom in the open room|pg||
nt|mrdct: east here deciding to pursue an inviational sort of auction it seems|pg||
mb|p|nt|chilloncan: 3S by E is an attractive alternative. sometimes they now have to bid 3N|pg||
nt|chilloncan: at these colors, i think that is the wrong strategy|pg||
mb|p|pc|d7|nt|dburn: but not for Kamil, and I don't blame him|pg||
nt|rodal f: W opened 1NT at OR. P - P - 2@D|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|nt|mrdct: stansby made 4@sX on this hand a short time ago to give Flieisher a 119-103 lead in tghe other semi|pg||
nt|chilloncan: ish maybe gagging to bid, fearing larceny at the colours|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: reluctant pass from N|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: still shaking his head|pg||
nt|chilloncan: bonsoir henri & hi bill|pg||
nt|mrdct: a glimmer of hope for Kang|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: Ish asks about the lead - 3rd and low|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sT|nt|mrdct: still 20 boards to go in this match so if kang can string 2 or 3 good boards togther they will be right back in this match|pg||
pc|sK|nt|rodal f: brb|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|chilloncan: they havent really been taking the fight to the opponenets too much in this room, but maybe just not enbough to work with|pg||
pc|d5|nt|gambit: The steal was in the OR, Kamil can't pre-balance on that rat bag |pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|vugraphzfh: Ish asking about spot card leads in the middle of the hand - some communication problem, but Kang finally says that it's 3rd and low there too|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|hK|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|h8|pc|d8|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c9|nt|vugraphzfh: Ish asks about discards: "standard"|pg||
pc|cT|pc|hA|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|d6|mc|5|pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3SAKQJH83DJ5CQ8653,ST9653HQJDAK84C97,S42HAK4DT732CKJT2,S87HT97652DQ96CA4|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfc: actually for a while there he had his fingers on a trump (before he played the @D)|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: in 1st and 2nd seat NS open almost all 11 hcps hands|pg||
pc|h9|nt|brolucius: Rodwell make a take-out double of 1@S on a hand rather similar to North's and was taken for 1100 by Levin Weinstein in the Round of 8. |pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cQ|nt|hedyg: that wont stop them from doing it again|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cJ|nt|hedyg: it is systemic, accidents happen|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|nt|brolucius: If I was playing against Levin-Weinstein, I would look for a point extra rather than a point fewer, before opening.|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3SAKQJH83DJ5CQ8653,ST9653HQJDAK84C97,S42HAK4DT732CKJT2,S87HT97652DQ96CA4|sv|b|nt|rodal f: b|pg||
nt|mcphee: intersting how opening 1NT let opps bid game and 1@H with simple raise blew them out:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|chilloncan: rock-ribbed NT opening|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: 3NT will make also here - albeit with some nervous moments in @d|pg||
nt|mrdct: with the 4333 south may not bother with stayman|pg||
nt|chilloncan: 4H a luckyish make, 3N best. switch EW hearts and 4H doiwn on promo|pg||
nt|chilloncan: yet another bad layout for EW|pg||
mb|1C|nt|mrdct: NS got the best result possible in the open room|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe another swing, if Fleisher doesn't open this|pg||
mb|1S|nt|mrdct: can NS replicate it here?|pg||
nt|tejjyid: not too hard I think|pg||
nt|chilloncan: bet my house against your dog|pg||
nt|mrdct: Ish would like to bid exclusion blackwood here - but can't in a suit p bid|pg||
nt|tejjyid: my dog got fleas...|pg||
nt|gambit: will a negative double by N get passed out?|pg||
mb|2H!|an|minors + limitish|nt|chilloncan: S will just invite NT|pg||
nt|dburn: can North make a negative double without hearts?|pg||
nt|mcphee: appears he can bid @H without them:)|pg||
nt|dburn: no - he has to use a transfer-like mechanism instead|pg||
nt|harmon: shows a great raise in clubs|pg||
mb|d|nt|chilloncan: or bid it, knowing opps will|pg||
nt|tejjyid: 3@c looks perfectly OK to me|pg||
nt|mrdct: i don't like 5@d a lot|pg||
nt|gambit: can he bid 2H with AKX? Is that something special?|pg||
nt|rodal f: Don't N have a auto X now? But there system|pg||
nt|dburn: they use transfers over 1@c, even when the opponents compete|pg||
nt|harmon: 2s by kamil shd get them to 3n|pg||
nt|gambit: EW awfully busy this hand|pg||
mb|3C|nt|tejjyid: OK, 5@D is only a small understatement|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: but worked out ok - althogh Kang may have more to say|pg||
nt|chorush: that will end it|pg||
nt|mcphee: 2 games in a rowdown the tubes|pg||
nt|rodal f: X was ofcause ment as negative|pg||
pc|c7|nt|tejjyid: Vulnerable though, South knows he has at least 2 good cards|pg||
nt|rodal f: Tx John:) System|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
nt|mcphee: now we know why you screw up system so often Harmon:)|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg||
nt|harmon: huh|pg||
mc|10|nt|mcphee: in any case an interesting toy this 2@H|pg||
pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SKJ842H87D832C952,SAQHT42DKQT97CT87,S97HAKQJ63DJ5CJ43,ST653H95DA64CAKQ6|sv|o|mb|1C|nt|algraves:  well you have to go home with who brung ya. as they say. |pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|brolucius: What language is that?|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d!|an|3 !ds|nt|chessmaste: canadian|pg||
nt|hedyg: showing 3 @ds rather than 4@ss|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: not any more you don't, alan ;)|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|nt|brolucius: A few dozen kibitzers (Vanderbilt BBO addicts) have told me that it was Meckstroth who made the double and went for 1100. Ah. But it was still a very sharp defense against them (in ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: fact by Stansby/Martel, so I did not get it er... exactly right.)|pg||
nt|chessmaste: They may reach 5@D - but will need a good view in trumps|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|hedyg: hi Mark|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am reliably informed that 'who brung ya?' is Texas-Oklahoma dialect. Many thanks.|pg||
mb|d|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: Weinstein with xxx in @H not so eager to get to 5@D|pg||
mb|p|pc|hK|nt|algraves:  If we asumed that 3@d was invitational|pg||
pc|h5|nt|algraves:  then Levin liked his quick tricks for NT|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h4|pg||
nt|hedyg: must have been invitational else Levin would not have bid again|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s3|nt|brolucius: Levin made a Support Double, showing three-card diamond support (2@D would have shown 4-card support). West could bid 2@D on a minimum, so 3@D is a game-try.|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|algraves:  so he will make 5 now, the defense in 5 would have been 3 rounds of @H with a nasty guess for the contract|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|c4|pc|h9|pc|c9|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SKJ842H87D832C952,SAQHT42DKQT97CT87,S97HAKQJ63DJ5CJ43,ST653H95DA64CAKQ6|sv|o|mb|1C|nt|mrdct: 4@s not a bad spot here until you discover trumps 4-1 offside|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: why?? get to differentiate between a good raise and just competing|pg||
nt|harmon: he coudl xfer to hts if he had em|pg||
nt|rodal f: Not a new gain to come?|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|chilloncan: 1949|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe, but not for Grue|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: 4@h not a bad spot either|pg||
nt|dburn: Fleisher will know what to lead|pg||
nt|mcphee: shall we dble on lead?|pg||
mb|d|nt|dburn: apparently|pg||
nt|mcphee: no way they run|pg||
mb|4C|nt|chilloncan: but 4H making so good save anyway|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: sure they will run|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|rodal f: 130|pg||
pc|h8|nt|mrdct: in the other semi, fleisher rebid 2@s and played there|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|dburn: to the vast number of spectators who are asking why Fleisher doubled, I don't know|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|hT|pg||
nt|harmon: sometimes they dont run|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg||
nt|rodal f: Next.|pg||
nt|chorush: To me, its a silly dbl. However, missing games the past 2 hands might have influenced him, although it shouldn't|pg||
nt|harmon: I agree|pg||
nt|mcphee: admittedly he had a plus passing, he just hoped they would sit the dbl;e|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|nt|rodal f: U are so right Ira. PASS and take safe score.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg||
nt|harmon: was just giving a reason|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|s4|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1SJT72HAKQ72DAKQCJ,S98HJ9D8643CK8642,SA63HT654DJ5CQ753,SKQ54H83DT972CAT9|sv|n|nt|algraves:  EW gained a swing when other room did not bid game on board 11|pg||
nt|chessmaste: An easy one this time|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|neg|nt|algraves:  ah the big club|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|algraves:  routine @H game|pg||
nt|brolucius: South could bid 2@H on a giant hand. 1@H is non-forcing, but North will raise strongly.|pg||
mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Because of the initial negative response, South can be sure that North cannot have enough for a slam.|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3@H shows maximum of the 1@D bid|pg||
nt|poohbear: 1H IS forcing and could be a 4 card suit with a longer minor|pg||
nt|hedyg: which is probably 7 hcps|pg||
nt|hedyg: and no shortness|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi Barry :)|pg||
pc|s9|nt|poohbear: hi|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg||
nt|algraves:  that is the Rodwell method that a lot of clubbers play over here|pg||
nt|brolucius: Playing low from dummy would risk going down when the lead is a singleton, so only a madman would choose that line. Oh.... sorry|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|ehsana: :)|pg||
nt|algraves:  East does not have KQXXX in @S and a @C honour|pg||
nt|algraves:  at this vul after big club|pg||
nt|algraves:  and it is important to not lose by one imp|pg||
nt|brolucius: He is confident that East would have bid and is looking for an overtrick.|pg||
nt|algraves:  well the @H could be 4-0|pg||
nt|algraves:  one thing that is absolutely gauranteed is the the @S 9 is not a singleton|pg||
nt|algraves:  There is a reason that they are down there and we are up here|pg||
nt|brolucius: Well, declarer's 'clever duck' has succeeded in making East waste some brainpower.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Unfortunately for him, Levin has plenty of that to spare.|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d6|nt|brolucius: Grue-Cheek have picked up two game swings with the light games that they bid recently, hence the healthy lead that has appeared top left.|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|hK|nt|hedyg: phew, now a quick claim of 11 tricks|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|hedyg: ok a slow claim then :(|pg||
nt|hedyg: salut :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: When this hand first appeared, I thought it was a banker for being all over in a few seconds.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: grue: "you' re not beating it"|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h8|nt|hedyg: David will end up preferring 1NT contracts!|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1SJT72HAKQ72DAKQCJ,S98HJ9D8643CK8642,SA63HT654DJ5CQ753,SKQ54H83DT972CAT9|sv|n|nt|mrdct: Kang hits the lead ... for this segment|pg||
nt|mrdct: another factor with these really late finishes, is that after finishing playing at 1:00am, you still need to score-up and wind-down with all of the adrenaline running through your ...|pg||
nt|mrdct: body after a tough match|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|chilloncan: usually in this country everybody would have opened|pg||
mb|2H|mb|d|nt|mrdct: 4@sx in the other room|pg||
nt|dburn: well, I guess he won an IMP anyway, but...|pg||
nt|chorush: you have a lot of vigorish in that your teammates are likely to be plus if they avoided no trump with no semblance of a heart stopper, as they did|pg||
mb|4H|nt|rodal f: Endplay? and =|pg||
nt|dburn: now, that is pre=balancing for you|pg||
mb|4N|nt|kista: operator speeding|pg||
mb|p|nt|rodal f: BLOOD if a X|pg||
mb|5D|nt|chorush: gonna cost them at least 800|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|dburn: crikey - Amoils took del Monte rather seriously|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: bids are out of order here|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: 7 tricks on top and 8th can be developed in @h|pg||
nt|mrdct: Grue has this in the bag now|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d5|nt|mcphee: lets see, what trump shall I lead:)|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg||
nt|mcphee: rusinow lead just for trumps:)|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h6|nt|dburn: curious symmetry about this - the other semi-final is over, and Fleisher has a lead of 41 IMPs|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|mrdct: oddly the scoreline in the other semi is exactly the same as this one|pg||
nt|dburn: that is, the third quarter is over|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|nt|chorush: I'm wondering if 3 rounds of hearts will lead to down 5 for 1100?|pg||
nt|dburn: I think declarer is OK if he guesses clubs|pg||
nt|dburn: that is, if you can call minus 800 OK|pg||
pc|h4|pc|dT|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg||
nt|mrdct: there goes the scoreline symetry|pg||
nt|rodal f: @CJ?|pg||
nt|mcphee: another @H not so bad|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: sorry lost N pitch on 3rd @D|pg||
nt|chorush: GIB is saying down 4 regardless, but GIB knows wheere all the cards are. I think a heart might lead to down 5 in reality|pg||
nt|dburn: GIB would ruff in East. play a club to the king, a spade to the king, and duck a spade|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|chorush: yes, that is true. but would declarer?|pg||
pc|d8|nt|tejjyid: another practise squeeze|pg||
pc|hT|nt|dburn: then, it would ruff out North's @sA and make seven tricks|pg||
nt|dburn: declarer, on the other hand...|pg||
nt|dburn: ...is in the other hand, so to speak|pg||
nt|rodal f: Might right Ira but if a @H u will play @CA an slipp next for 800|pg||
nt|dburn: and now he really will go down five|pg||
nt|chorush: GIB has now changed his/her mind and says down 5|pg||
nt|brolucius: Surely female, since she never makes a mistake. |pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|dburn: mind you, declarer still has to negotiate the club suit, else GIB may soon be predicting down six|pg||
nt|hedyg: careful David!|pg||
nt|chorush: Declarer will probably use his club entry to lead another spade since that is marked, and hemight get lucky and catch QJ doubleton in clubs|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h2|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|c4|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2SJ952H84DKJT976C4,SK764HK65D843CT65,SQT3HJDAQ52CAQ972,SA8HAQT9732DCKJ83|sv|e|nt|brolucius: No, this was fun in a way.|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: it was?|pg||
nt|chessmaste: Might have some excitement here|pg||
nt|brolucius: Cheek realizes that bridge is a spectator sport (since BBO arrived on the scene) and has tried to make it more interesting for us. Our thanks to him.|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|4H|nt|hedyg: the catchall 1@d|pg||
nt|hedyg: some players might open the N hand 1NT|pg||
mb|5D|nt|chessmaste: 4@H would not be everyone's choice|pg||
mb|5H|nt|hedyg: at 14-16|pg||
nt|brolucius: I always enjoy watching experts bidding high-level competitive hands.|pg||
mb|6D|mb|6H|nt|hedyg: oh wow|pg||
nt|chessmaste: I told you|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes you did|pg||
mb|7D|mb|d|mb|p|nt|hedyg: oh noooo!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h4|nt|chessmaste: The Phantom menace strikes again - but you can hardly blame him|pg||
nt|hedyg: for both pairs!|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|poohbear: twice. Looked like 5 times to me|pg||
nt|algraves:  so down 2 and would have needed to find @C lead to beat 6|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h2|pc|d6|nt|algraves:  at these colours 7@D seems lilke reasonable insurance|pg||
mc|10|nt|hedyg: against what?|pg||
nt|algraves:  sorry down 3 of course|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: table will remain open, but there will be nobody home ...|pg||
nt|kit: insurance of costing 12 IMPs|pg||
nt|algraves:  well against 6@H|pg||
nt|brolucius: He has gone down less than an opponent's game, which is generally reckoned as OK. Sacrificing is not a precise art (as we ALL know).|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty Patty :) great job|pg||
nt|hedyg: we continue in a few minutes?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, many thanks to Patty. Great session!|pg||
nt|algraves:  he needed to find a precise lead|pg||
nt|algraves:  their is a case for Grue to bid 6@C on the way|pg||
nt|brolucius: Excellent point!|pg||
nt|algraves:  but they prefer to play poker style in these auctions and as they say, you go home with who brung ya|pg||
nt|hedyg: that will just get them doubled and shut up Levin|pg||
nt|brolucius: Grue has four diamonds, when he might have had fewer, so he knows there are a large number of diamonds with South. In that case a diamond lead could be ruffed. |pg||
nt|brolucius: Are you from Texas or Oklahoma, Allan?|pg||
nt|algraves:  Vancouver Canada but we have a Oklahoma neighbourhood|pg||
nt|brolucius: I thought so.|pg||
nt|algraves:  very cosmopolitan city|pg||
nt|hedyg: lets see what happens at the other table|pg||
nt|algraves:  lol|pg||
nt|algraves:  although in my case it was usually " what dumped ya"|pg||
nt|algraves:  really I doubt if Grue gave one second;s thought to 6 @C|pg||
nt|algraves:  but many others would and then would have bid it|pg||
nt|algraves:  what is important is to be consistent so that partner can make reasonable judgements|pg||
nt|algraves:  since there is lots to be said for each approach|pg||
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qx|c16|st||md|2SJ952H84DKJT976C4,SK764HK65D843CT65,SQT3HJDAQ52CAQ972,SA8HAQT9732DCKJ83|sv|e|nt|poohbear: will prob go on the next hand anyway|pg||
nt|mrdct: -300 not a great result for grue|pg||
nt|dburn: good lead, that jack of spades|pg||
nt|dburn: bad luck|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: closing, back soon|pg||
mb|p|nt|tejjyid: this is a practise double, more interesting|pg||
nt|mrdct: last board now|pg||
mb|1C!|an|c b short|mb|4H|nt|pelepele: so how is break till the final starts?|pg||
nt|tejjyid: 10 hours|pg||
nt|frankaus: tu all for your company - more excitement tommorrow in the final|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: Final scheduled to start at 11:00 am tomorrow morning - I don't think anything will be done about that but there's some discussion|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: in the other match, West opened 2NT, got raised to three, got doubled for a spade lead and ran (at one table)|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: 1@d in the other room probably showed @s|pg||
nt|mrdct: so do we have a confirmed start time for tomorrow?|pg||
mb|d|nt|poohbear: 1D showed reds or blacks by north|pg||
nt|mrdct: i see|pg||
nt|poohbear: in the other room|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: at the other table, West opened 2@c and East bid 2@d, then South bid 2@s and found himself on lead to 3NT a moment later|pg||
nt|mcphee: fearless re-opening dble|pg||
nt|dburn: well, if Cheek was not going to lead a club against six hearts, he was right to sacrifice against it|pg||
nt|hedyg: undo?|pg||
nt|rodal f: 7@DX a nice sac?|pg||
mb|4S|nt|dburn: and since he was cheap against game, it might work out for the best anyway|pg||
mb|5H|nt|vugraphzfh: Ish: "who made a negative DBL?" chuckles|pg||
nt|rodal f: 4S from S?|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|dburn: same sort of thing here, in truth - but 14 IMPs to the comeback kings (or perhaps Kangs)|pg||
nt|mrdct: cleverly right-sided|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: but not against game doubled|pg||
nt|hedyg: bidding was more fun at our table|pg||
nt|brolucius: Pretty good fun here, too. North certainly didn't hold back. |pg||
nt|rodal f: Ok. Specs. I ment 500 as a nice sac against 650.  150 saved.|pg||
nt|hedyg: restart a few minutes after this board is over|pg||
pc|c4|nt|mrdct: this will give Kang some momentum going into the last 16|pg||
nt|pelepele: one day the needs of players might be a consideration !!|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|nt|chilloncan: EW in this room had little chance for heroics, NS had card control. congratulations to winners|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|dA|nt|chilloncan: 3N was a sizeable bid. presume 2N would be artificial and 2N then 3N would be murky|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d6|nt|dburn: well, pass doubltess showed a hand that would have rebid 2NT, so East did what he would have done over that|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|hA|nt|mrdct: well it's a cup of warm milk and off to bed for all the players i expect|pg||
pc|h4|nt|mcphee: that will cost the over trick|pg||
nt|dburn: cheaper still against game doubled with an overtrick|pg||
mc|12|nt|chilloncan: something like that|pg||
nt|frankaus: often we have sets where we are "passangers just there for the ride" its frustrating but it happens|pg||
nt|hedyg: thank you John :) great job!|pg||
nt|dburn: 1050 for del Monte, 11 IMPs for Grue|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: thx all, back in a few minutes|pg||
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