vg|2011 Vanderbilt Final,4 of 4,I,17,32,Grue,88,Fleisher,83|
rs|4SWx=,4SE=,3CN=,3CS=,5SWx-1,4SW=,3CN+1,3NS=,7NS=,6NS+1,3NSx-1,1NS+1,5SS+1,6CN=,7DSx-1,7DS-1,2NN+2,2NN+1,2DE+2,3HE=,4DN=,3DN+2,2NS-1,3SE=,3NN+1,3NN+1,4HE-1,4HE-1,3CE+1,2CE=,3HN=,3HN=|
pn|Bakhshi,Stansby,Delmonte,Martel,WEINSTEIN,CHEEK,LEVIN,GRUE|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3SHKJ985D863CKQ874,SAQJT82HA73DTCJ95,SK7543H2D752CA632,S96HQT64DAKQJ94CT|sv|o|nt|ritong: taddamm  here we go|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: 4@S undoubled in closed|pg||
nt|algraves:  hello everyone|pg||
pc|h2|nt|chorush: Betting West was not expecting to be doubled|pg||
nt|barnets: in closed east played the contract|pg||
nt|ritong: @s 9 in dummy is good news|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
nt|barnets: and made 4@S|pg||
nt|woozle: Frankly, the South hand, with no aces, no spades and no tricks in dummy's suit, will be a disappointment|pg||
pc|dT|nt|barnets: on the @CK lead|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|h3|nt|chorush: I think he will make 5|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|h7|pc|d2|pg||
nt|woozle: Ish can stop one club ruff in dummy for making 4|pg||
nt|chorush: right|pg||
pc|cT|nt|barnets: the match will be tied|pg||
nt|woozle: Why did I say Ish? I guess I just figured that he's just the sort of North to double|pg||
nt|barnets: any chance of putting the north and south names up please ?|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|h5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|c9|nt|algraves:  he had to lead a trump to have a chance sort of counter intuitive. Tough game bridge|pg||
pc|c2|pc|s9|pc|c7|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h8|pc|cJ|mc|10|nt|algraves:  then a second trump, then a @D when in with trump King|pg||
nt|ritong: lets restart this final  0-0|pg||
nt|barnets: well north is either ish or bahkshi|pg||
nt|barnets: c|pg||
nt|barnets: c|pg||
nt|barnets: can you tell us who s north ?|pg||
nt|chorush: a spec told me that GIB required specifically, the spade 7 to beat the contract but I am darned if I can figure out why|pg||
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qx|c17|st||md|3SHKJ985D863CKQ874,SAQJT82HA73DTCJ95,SK7543H2D752CA632,S96HQT64DAKQJ94CT|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|h3|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|nt|imp_jan: very active bal dbl by east (especially after drury)|pg||
nt|athene: a good example here of the perils of doubling for takeout without support for all the unbid suits|pg||
nt|imp_jan: david bakhshi's first hand in a vandy final :)|pg||
pc|sT|pc|d7|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c3|nt|dinos1: not @d to 10? for 2nd ruff|pg||
pc|s9|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|h5|nt|chorush: Down 3 is possible here if ns defend perfectly|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s5|pg||
mc|10|nt|warrens:  this will work fine, but a low @D seems safer|pg||
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qx|o18|st||md|4SJTHAT52DKQ987CQ8,S9HKJDJ65432CJ943,SQ863H876DTCAKT52,SAK7542HQ943DAC76|sv|n|mb|1S|nt|barnets: thanks|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|ritong: 3@c looks ok|pg||
nt|ritong: second choice 1 NT|pg||
nt|barnets: and thats where they are playing in closed|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|woozle: 2C, 3C and 1NT are all possible...it depends whether you have the sort of partner who doubles with 2452|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: After SAK, ruff, HK exit this looks like down only one thanks to the heart blockage|pg||
nt|barnets: wset has not passed yet|pg||
nt|woozle: If Bakhshi had passed, Stansby would have had the lovely problem 1S:1NT,2H:?|pg||
mb|p|pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s9|nt|barnets: same contract same lead|pg||
nt|woozle: after a diamond exit, this can be made (or if East cashes DA before giving the ruff)|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg||
pc|h9|nt|woozle: after a spade, ruffed by west, and a diamond, Ish can just ruff with the ten and claim...or ruff with the ace and hook the ten|pg||
nt|woozle: OK, Martel adds a twist by not taking the spade ruff|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pg||
nt|gambit: perhaps N might have entertained 1NT, he knows S has the reds, would solve this problem |pg||
nt|woozle: Maybe Ish can read that if Stansby didn't want a ruff (with a SP signal on the DA) then maybe he has Jxxx trump|pg||
nt|athene: good evening everyone|pg||
nt|ritong: hi|pg||
nt|barnets: so 3@C made in closed|pg||
nt|barnets: when dec weinstein finessed the @C 10|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg||
nt|woozle: pitching spades? Really?|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|h7|nt|chorush: gonna make here as well. wd by Ish|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he isn't going to make if he has played it like this|pg||
nt|woozle: not if he pitched a spade|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d5|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg||
nt|ritong: ho hum|pg||
nt|woozle: unless, of course, Martel doesn't win his spade ace|pg||
mc|9|nt|ritong: next|pg||
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qx|c18|st||md|4SJTHAT52DKQ987CQ8,S9HKJDJ65432CJ943,SQ863H876DTCAKT52,SAK7542HQ943DAC76|sv|n|mb|1S|nt|gambit: ughh...what a way to start.....|pg||
mb|d|mb|2C!|an|!D|mb|2S!|an|!C|mb|d!|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: this one is peaceful|pg||
nt|athene: east can regain a little equanimity|pg||
nt|athene: cashing tricks in 3nt|pg||
nt|warrens:  I'm used to seeing 2@C to show @D's after a double, but it never occured to me that 2@S would show @c's|pg||
nt|warrens:  does anyone know that structure?|pg||
nt|dinos1: interesting one :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: so 2@d will be @h, and 2@h - cue?|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|d5|pc|s6|pg||
nt|imp_jan: only real issue here is how to score @d7 in the last trick|pg||
pc|s2|nt|gambit: The beer card :)|pg||
nt|warrens:  if he ruffs high and finesses the @C jack, he'll make it|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|imp_jan: exactly|pg||
nt|gambit: doubt that will happen here|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s8|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|nt|vugraphzfh: Weinstein "sorry"|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|nt|imp_jan: a scandinavian habit, when u win the @d7 in the last trick (and u made yr contract) yr opps owe u a beer|pg||
pc|h2|pc|c4|pg||
nt|dinos1: wd|pg||
nt|warrens:  here we go|pg||
pc|cK|nt|imp_jan: nowadays almost the whole world knows about it|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d8|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d7|mc|9|nt|warrens:  great|pg||
nt|warrens:  :)|pg||
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qx|o19|st||md|1S54HKQT53D953C653,SQJ872H9DAQJT7CKQ,SAT93HJ82DK62CT87,SK6HA764D84CAJ942|sv|e|nt|woozle: Either a comedy of errors or something misentered by the operator|pg||
nt|ritong: 110 confirmed, operator?|pg||
mb|2H|nt|woozle: Bakhshi'|pg||
nt|gambit: nice time for as 1@H psyche, if there is such a time|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 110 is confirmed|pg||
nt|ritong: ty|pg||
mb|2S|mb|3H|nt|athene: 5333 not the best shape for a weak-2, usually, but here there is a combination of good suit and right vulnerability|pg||
nt|woozle: Bakhshi's loose weak two in hearts will reduce the science that Stansby-Martel can bring to this hand|pg||
nt|woozle: Martel might get optimistic in clubs here, expecting a singleton opposite|pg||
nt|ritong: there is also a 16 boards final segment where thay all want to take advantage|pg||
nt|dburn: true - 5-3-3-3 hands tend to have too many losers|pg||
nt|woozle: He's not opening 2H intending to play it|pg||
nt|ritong: psychological advantage i meant|pg||
nt|athene: another problem with pre-empting on essentially a balanced hand is that if you push opps into a thin game contract they will make it on good breaks|pg||
nt|athene: that's more of a worry than going for a number, i think|pg||
nt|woozle: Agreed|pg||
nt|barnets: e/w in 4@S in closed|pg||
nt|gambit: 4@H from E |pg||
nt|woozle: probably 4C,4D,4S|pg||
mb|d!|an|Cards, not a stiff heart|nt|ritong: doubling 3@h a possibility|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: which will make|pg||
mb|5D|nt|athene: can he handle 5@D from his partner?|pg||
nt|gambit: whoops|pg||
nt|athene: well, we are going to see how he does just that|pg||
nt|woozle: I think Martel would do better to get an opinion specifically on clubs...this diamondless double is working poorly|pg||
nt|woozle: still, 5D might make, which is more than can be said for 5S|pg||
nt|gambit: will N double, I say Yes|pg||
nt|athene: do EW play leaping michaels? i.e. is west limited by failure to bid 4@D over 2@H?|pg||
nt|woozle: Someone, presumably with a double dummy solver that I can't afford, tells me that a spade lead is needed to beat 5D|pg||
nt|chorush: yes, dummy gets overruffed|pg||
nt|ritong: or he has seen that an overruff of the third @s would work|pg||
nt|woozle: Some people talking about 3NT, but I think that Martel's slam potential (in clubs specifically) is too good to worry about 3NT|pg||
nt|woozle: but he'd like to bid it now|pg||
nt|athene: you could bid 3nt and hope that partner pulls it on a reasonable proportion of hands where slam is good|pg||
nt|athene: but maybe that is asking too much of partner|pg||
nt|chorush: are Ish and Chip on the same side of the screen?|pg||
nt|woozle: yes, pull it when he has clubs but not when he has diamonds...well bid, partner|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: east was maybe thinking a possible slam in clubs|pg||
nt|athene: well if he pulls it to 4@D you can try 4@S|pg||
nt|woozle: I don't think that double is the bid for finding that club slam|pg||
nt|athene: and if he pulls it to clubs, you can get excited|pg||
nt|barnets: or he could have just bid 4@S over 3@H|pg||
nt|gambit: if Martel's red suits were reversed his bid would be textbook, now skating on thin ice, let's hope he is Gretsky, not Avery |pg||
nt|woozle: who are they?|pg||
nt|gambit: Hockey players|pg||
nt|ritong: a pair from cartoonland|pg||
nt|athene: martel *might* leave this, playing his partner for 5-6?|pg||
nt|ritong: extremely uncomfortable decision here|pg||
nt|athene: he might feel that west has to have really really good diamonds to make such an awkward bid|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|passell: dont like 5dia|pg||
nt|athene: you and martel both :)|pg||
nt|ritong: now he has three jewels and pard is really active|pg||
nt|barnets: in other room south passed and this made it easier for e/w|pg||
nt|athene: i still think that for 6@S/@D to be good, west would be Leaping Michaelsing - if that is a legitimate verb|pg||
nt|passell: 5dia is cold  not 5spades|pg||
nt|woozle: Someone asks if East should be thinking about a slam with 12 points and no known fit when partner couldn't double first. I say YES - (a) an overcall doesn't deny a very good hand, ...|pg||
nt|woozle: (b) there's a huge chance of a club fit once you know that your partner is short in hearts|pg||
nt|barnets: they were able to bid both suits out at lower level|pg||
nt|ritong: c)12 points do not define that hand|pg||
nt|gambit: Martel know 5D will not be doubled by the weak 2 bid opener, he also knows that 5S may well be a better contract and more likely to be doubled, so, a very onerous decison|pg||
nt|woozle: It's all very well to criticise EW here, but the impending swing was really created by Bakshi's 2H (versus Weinstein's pass)|pg||
nt|barnets: perhaps west could have bid 4@H over the x |pg||
nt|woozle: Bidding 4H still doesn't lead to any auctions where he can pass 5C|pg||
nt|barnets: as 4@D is likely not forcing|pg||
nt|woozle: He could perhaps show a very good hand which is going down at the five level|pg||
nt|athene: 4@H might be choice of games (so spades and a minor, not willing to go past 4@S) - that is why 5@D might be taken as a very strong statement for diamonds i.e. 6 diamonds 5 spades|pg||
nt|barnets: well 4@S is still the best contract|pg||
nt|woozle: Martel is waiting for the match to be rained out|pg||
nt|gambit: Clint Hurdle...."the human rain delay'...LOL|pg||
nt|passell: that ages you|pg||
nt|woozle: East can't really bid 4S without knowing that the second suit is diamonds|pg||
nt|barnets: 4@H by west would leave spades a spossible contract and show a very good hand for diamonds|pg||
nt|athene: 4@S may be the best possible contract, but it is no longer the best contract possible, as SJ Simon would point out|pg||
nt|barnets: over clubs|pg||
nt|barnets: the match will no longer be tied|pg||
nt|dburn: it will if Martel doesn't bid anything at all|pg||
nt|gambit: I hear from Specs that it was Hargrove, not Hurdle, maybe both, not sure|pg||
nt|ritong: if he bids it will be 5@h imo|pg||
nt|athene: i think martel can give up on slam and just focus on "5@D or 5@S?" decision|pg||
nt|barnets: the players have had a very long week and are in the final quarter where every bid or play can win or lose the tournament|pg||
nt|woozle: It doesn't matter much what Martel does unless he passes 5D and they make it...6SX-2 (-500, 15 imps) isn't very different to 5S-1 (-100, 12 imps)|pg||
nt|gambit: yes, just looked it up and it was Hargrove and Trachsel|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: wow|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: Ok, 13 imps for 5SX-1|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|athene: north is hoping a force on the known 2-suiter might cause declarer to lose trump control and go a lot down? that's a bit optimistic|pg||
nt|athene: i guess there are ways this can be -2 without that happening|pg||
nt|woozle: There's nothing else to try|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
nt|ritong: besides he needs revenge after board 17|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|ritong: admittedly his axing here is way more justified|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|h7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ritong: and brings in 1 imp|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg||
nt|ritong: you never know|pg||
nt|gambit: claiming quickly we hope|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1S54HKQT53D953C653,SQJ872H9DAQJT7CKQ,SAT93HJ82DK62CT87,SK6HA764D84CAJ942|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|chorush: The other table started on board 3 so we probably are not going to get a comparison of boards 1 and 2 until the end of the segment|pg||
mb|2C!|nt|imp_jan: 1@D is trsf Walsh|pg||
nt|dburn: Weinstein against the world at the other table - but he was armed with the spades, so he won|pg||
nt|algraves:  3NT a make |pg||
mb|2H|mb|3D|nt|dinos1: make coz no entry to S|pg||
mb|3H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: 2@H showing 4 (dbl wld have shown 3)|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: I suppose 99% of undo are accepted at this level....still, I am sure the odd one is not |pg||
nt|kit: 4@S makes also for same reason I think|pg||
pc|h2|nt|passell: yes 4spades 3 club 2dia 1heart|pg||
pc|hA|nt|dinos1: 3@s only|pg||
nt|passell: maybe 2 heart ruffs|pg||
pc|h5|nt|warrens:  declarer will have to decided if S started with QJx or Qx to prevent -500|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|dburn: or, perhaps Kamil bid 3@h and Fleisher bid four, but that isn't all that likely either|pg||
nt|warrens:  if so, maybe N is thinking of doubling|pg||
nt|kit: just loses 2 spades and a diamond -- hand plays okay out of control|pg||
pc|d4|nt|dburn: this all seems a bit unlikely|pg||
nt|dburn: my guess is that Kamil bid three of something, then Bakhshi bid 3@s and del Monte gave him four|pg||
nt|passell: yes|pg||
pc|d3|nt|warrens:  :)|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|warrens:  best defense is K and a @D, then cash the @H K, then another @D|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|dburn: still, Bakhshi is quite right to double|pg||
nt|imp_jan: kind of fredin dbl then david|pg||
nt|imp_jan: 3@S by west wld not be my choice|pg||
nt|warrens:  well, not so likely now (more likely if N had balanced with 3@D)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: sorry for the confusion, trying to help other table|pg||
nt|imp_jan: probably that is what happened indeed, warren|pg||
nt|passell: here the undos are vugraph operator errors or misclicks  not the players   players have no undos unfortunately|pg||
nt|passell: this lead will make the play go quickly|pg||
nt|warrens:  did the other table go back and play boards 1 & 2?|pg||
nt|warrens:  they show as pushes|pg||
nt|dburn: I think it had played them - they just hadn't been entered|pg||
nt|imp_jan: not likely, these pushes|pg||
nt|chorush: They started on board 3, so I dont think they have been played|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s7|nt|dinos1: even if S has @sA - make|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|vugraphzfh: I will get results entered at break|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|mc|10|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2SK95HA98DT7CAT852,ST642HQT74DK98CK9,SA873HJ2DAQ32CQ74,SQJHK653DJ654CJ63|sv|b|nt|athene: the psychology of the double is way more important than the imp|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|barnets: looks like a flat game|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: Sound result for Weinstein-Levin, bidding the close game for +600|pg||
nt|barnets: if they reach it|pg||
mb|2C!|an|Inverted|nt|barnets: with clubs lying well|pg||
nt|athene: you can't just bid 1nt on that south hand can you?|pg||
nt|barnets: for declarer|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: and hearts splitting|pg||
nt|ritong: u_ndo pls|pg||
nt|athene: and if south does anything invitational, north will go|pg||
nt|chorush: that would be ish bidding 2 spades|pg||
nt|athene: 2@S is denying a heart stopper?|pg||
nt|woozle: people who play 2NT and 2C as game-forcing might consider 1NT...I wouldn't even if it showed 10-12|pg||
nt|barnets: kind of lucky game|pg||
nt|woozle: bold 2S bid from Stansby?|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, stansby has a stopper  anyway it is north' bid|pg||
nt|woozle: If Ish showed his spade stopper, I assume 2D would have been something else|pg||
mb|2S|nt|barnets: 2@S from north|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|athene: these stopper-showing auctions are not a good idea in my opinion - they just help the defence more|pg||
nt|barnets: non forcing|pg||
nt|athene: it's ok to show a shortage to avoid really silly 3NTs when 5minor is there|pg||
nt|woozle: Bakhshi might have missed his chance to show a heart stopper, if Ish was neutral about diamonds|pg||
nt|barnets: will north pass ?|pg||
nt|athene: but if you have two balanced hands, it isn't worth it|pg||
nt|woozle: North will probably pass if he can|pg||
nt|woozle: Hardly a lovely 13|pg||
nt|athene: north is much more likely to pass now - combination of heart worry AND borderline strength anyway|pg||
nt|dburn: how many clubs did 1@c show?|pg||
nt|woozle: people are suggesting that 3NT is awful, but the heart lead might not be automatic|pg||
nt|dburn: if two, then he has a pretty good hand for clubs|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Unknown, showed 11+ HCP not GF|pg||
nt|dburn: since South ought to have six|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: even if it only showed two, three isn't a long way above average|pg||
mb|p|pc|h3|nt|barnets: well it needs fav clubs hearts well place and the @D finesse|pg||
nt|barnets: not exactly favorite|pg||
nt|dburn: no, but queen third is quite a lot better than two low|pg||
nt|woozle: If opponents are leading a suit other than hearts, it will probably need one less thing right|pg||
nt|passell: still need 9 tricks to make 3nt|pg||
nt|dburn: I don't know|pg||
nt|athene: if you hope to make 3n based on a long club suit, with the defence knocking out a heart stop at trick 1, then aces on the side are what you want, rather than kings and queens  ...|pg||
nt|athene: which you won't have time to use|pg||
nt|barnets: I think n/s can consider themselves a trifle unfrortunate here|pg||
nt|athene: so on that basis his hand is better than average|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
nt|woozle: Ish probably expected to be opposite no heart stopper|pg||
nt|woozle: If everything is foul, 3C might fail also, which changes the odds required on 3NT|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
nt|chorush: A bit of blame, if there is any, goes to the undefined nature of 1C. After a natural 1 diamond opening, South would make an invitational 2NT bid and likely be raised|pg||
nt|ritong: i admit 1@c is mysterious to me too|pg||
nt|gambit: 3c is a far superior contract than 3NT, but that is a steal for Fleisher in the Closed room |pg||
nt|dburn: 1@d shows an unbalanced hand in the methods North-South play|pg||
nt|ritong: ah ok|pg||
nt|ritong: ty david|pg||
nt|chorush: right, I'm just saying that system is partly to blame here|pg||
nt|dburn: well "superior" is not altogether clear - 3@c will make more often than 3NT will, but it scores less|pg||
nt|athene: another idea behind 1@C on any balanced hand is that you expect to reach notrumps a lot of the time and it's more use to conceal which minor you have|pg||
nt|woozle: It also cleans up your auctions in the other minor|pg||
nt|passell: there will be no games missed at the other table|pg||
nt|dburn: still, I'm inclined to agree with Barnet - 3NT probably has a lower expectation than 3@c|pg||
nt|athene: if partner really cares about 6minor he can relay and find out|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c4|nt|athene: if you just go 1@C 1major 1nt 3nt, the defence know less|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|passell: yes but it is a risk reward situation|pg||
pc|hT|pc|c7|nt|barnets: so dec was leading up to the @C Q and if it had lost would have finnesed the 10 on the way back|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|pg||
nt|barnets: taking 2finesses|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg||
nt|barnets: but all was well|pg||
nt|gambit: Mike notes "there will be no games missed at ther other table", and he is right, precious few missed here, on a heart lead no chance |pg||
nt|dburn: that's the right play for three club tricks - for four, you should play ace and another|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|cA|nt|barnets: he may anxiously ask how the hearts were split at the end of the hand|pg||
pc|h7|nt|dburn: but it's all very close, and this is perfectly reasonable|pg||
pc|d2|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|s7|nt|ritong: i think he is aware before that barnet|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2SK95HA98DT7CAT852,ST642HQT74DK98CK9,SA873HJ2DAQ32CQ74,SQJHK653DJ654CJ63|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|dburn: somewhat unlucky to go down in five clubs|pg||
nt|warrens:  this is an interesting hand.  you need to get to 4@S to make game|pg||
nt|dburn: but four spades would have made|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves:  3NT NS|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|kit: Sout hand evaluates at invitational 2NT -- maybe more|pg||
mb|3N|nt|chorush: Yes but 4 spades is a better contract and duly will make|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|algraves:  I am sure they play 2NT as forcing|pg||
pc|h4|nt|imp_jan: funny pos, due to the fact that spades break badly u shld avoid 5@C but be in 4@S..|pg||
nt|dburn: certainly a case for East just to bid it, once he finds out West doesn't want to play 3NT|pg||
nt|algraves:  they play 1 Major 2NT as forcing and natural|pg||
nt|fcarioca: Probably 1 down|pg||
nt|drewsky: How one down ....i see 9 tricks|pg||
nt|kit: why down?|pg||
nt|passell: good lie of the cards  4-4 hearts clubs good dia finesse|pg||
nt|warrens:  2@S's, 1@H's, 2@D's + 4@C's|pg||
nt|algraves:  4 @C, 2@S 1@H and 2@D|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|nt|chorush: if Bakhshi tries 3 spades now he will get to 4. If 4 clubs, probably 5C|pg||
nt|dburn: after all, unless West is void in spades, 4@s will make more or less whenever 5@c will|pg||
nt|imp_jan: may be 3@C did show already a five card|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|dinos1: 4@c2@s2@d1@h|pg||
pc|h6|nt|warrens:  a friendly hand|pg||
nt|drewsky: clean living, mr. passell|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hT|nt|imp_jan: well bid anyway|pg||
nt|warrens:  a good idea to treat his spade suit as if it were 6-card|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|imp_jan: so Grue on track for a big swing|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|passell: wouldnt know about clean living  drewski|pg||
nt|harmon: Drewsky!!!!|pg||
nt|harmon: MR Passel sir|pg||
nt|dinos1: @c to Q, then fin J if it loses|pg||
pc|d2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|nt|algraves:  nice play by Grue to try and fake3@H holding|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s3|pc|h3|nt|algraves:  didnt matter of course|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|algraves:  but you never know sometimes|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|nt|drewsky: now there will be a show up squeeze in the end game...|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s8|nt|gambit: claiming quickly |pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg||
pc|cT|nt|algraves:  so he gets a show up Squeeze|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s7|nt|kit: might have been interesting if it had been Cheek who pretended to have 3 hearts by not cashing the fourth heart|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|c2|pc|sT|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s9|nt|algraves:  you have to admire someone who at the end of six days is still following the spots|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3SQHAKT92DA9853CAQ,S8764HJ74DT74CKT3,SAKJT92HQ8DKQC872,S53H653DJ62CJ9654|sv|n|nt|ritong: hmm|pg||
nt|dburn: this is a pretty good grand slam|pg||
nt|athene: 7nt needs one red suit to come in?|pg||
mb|1S|nt|chorush: possible swing here. The hands mesh exceedingly well|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: no, you just have to count your tricks|pg||
nt|athene: OR various other thins|pg||
nt|athene: ah sorry|pg||
nt|athene: 13 on top :)|pg||
nt|woozle: The auction at the other table resembled our other favourite sport - blindfolded darts|pg||
nt|ritong: always difficult to bid grand with exactly 13 on top|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|gambit: Don't forget Barry's rules|pg||
nt|woozle: 3S from north (unfashionable in these 2/1 days) might make it very easy|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|athene: this hand resembles a lot of Bridge World challenge the champs hands in that the singleton queen in partner's long suit is worth about 10 hcp|pg||
nt|woozle: I'm more apt to remember barry's rules in the style of event that barry sometimes won|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|woozle: Ish's 3H looks misplaced with 100 honours in spades|pg||
nt|athene: if he had rebid spades again, south might value the @SQ a bit more|pg||
mb|4C|nt|ritong: well his @h Q might be as important as his pard's @sQ|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: some specs asked abput the club suit on the last hand both @CA and a club and two finessses have exactly 50 percent chance to make 4 club tricks|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|nt|gambit: we will see 4NT followed by 5NT (a grand slam try) and then...|pg||
nt|athene: @SQ surely getting lost now|pg||
nt|dburn: actually, @cA and a club has exactly a 58.7826% chance to make four club tricks|pg||
nt|athene: maybe south will work out he has so many extras he can just bid 7 in a bit|pg||
nt|warrens:  is this key card in @H?|pg||
nt|athene: 4nt feels like keycard for hearts, yes, so it might be hard to unearth the @SQ|pg||
mb|5C|mb|d|nt|ritong: insolent double:)|pg||
nt|woozle: Stansby's double might work poorly if south's second suit was clubs and could return it to the sender|pg||
nt|woozle: If North confirms all of the keys, South might be able to bid a grand|pg||
nt|ritong: don tthink he has any choice|pg||
nt|athene: south did bid 2nt rather than 3@C so west doesn't expect him to have great clubs|pg||
nt|ritong: south' hand is not limited|pg||
nt|ritong: now, there is a small ambiguity about the suit being trumps|pg||
nt|woozle: 5NT then 6S might make seven possible|pg||
nt|po-s: If 4c was a cue it seems strange that Ish would ask for keycards  with the North hand|pg||
nt|gambit: Stansby was telling himself what to lead, as in all kikelihood (though far from guaranteed) S will declare|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: West led a @C at the other table without having to make a lead-directing double.|pg||
nt|gambit: I think 4NT was premature from N |pg||
nt|woozle: bah...someone needs to step up with "I've got tricks...how are we for aces?"|pg||
nt|athene: @SQ is the key to the hand, gotta find that and the rest is easy|pg||
nt|barnets: looks like he should ask for the trump Q anyway next|pg||
nt|barnets: and will find out about the @HK as well with the reply|pg||
nt|woozle: someone suggested that if north passes, south might redouble....but the problem remains that they may not make it|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|nt|dburn: no, he won't - South doesn't have the trump queen|pg||
mb|5H|mb|p|nt|woozle: lots of people are telling me about board 24 in the closed room...be patient, folks, be patient...there will be time to snicker nater|pg||
nt|dburn: hearts are trumps, not spades|pg||
nt|woozle: er later|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|nt|barnets: right cause its hearts|pg||
nt|barnets: maybe should play double keycard with 2 queens|pg||
nt|woozle: someone tells me that 5C can make, but I assume that's on some other board|pg||
nt|gambit: NT , not hearts, or spades|pg||
nt|barnets: that would work here|pg||
nt|dburn: but Bakshi may now be able to do something about the spade queen|pg||
nt|woozle: maybe Ish is asking for third round control in spades...but the queen isn't the same as a doubleton|pg||
nt|po-s: Ish paints a picture....Do you have the treump queen partne? - No,  Then interpret my 5spades|pg||
nt|woozle: must be a seven-try...I think that Bakhshi can just bid 7NT|pg||
nt|gambit: the q@S is such a huge card, S has so much, how can he not do the grand?|pg||
nt|barnets: I think the auction is very unclear|pg||
nt|woozle: however much we can mock this auction, it's a much better attempt than Weinstein-Levin|pg||
nt|gambit: no club lead if he plays in NT |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Ish is pretty calm, Bakhshi is fidgeting like crazy|pg||
nt|barnets: 5@S may be an attempt to play spades|pg||
nt|barnets: at some level|pg||
nt|po-s: I think Ish says unfortunately I don´t have the trump queen but a very good spade suit, prepared to play slam without that heart queen|pg||
nt|gambit: I love those updates from the VyG operator....|pg||
nt|woozle: even so, why revert when he couldn't bid them over 2NT?|pg||
nt|barnets: yes po i agree sounds right|pg||
mb|7N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: wow|pg||
nt|gambit: I love it|pg||
nt|woozle: Bakhshi gets the message about the spade queen - a huge board for ish|pg||
nt|warrens:  well, I guess Bakhshi knew what it all meant|pg||
nt|dburn: if South had the heart jack rather than the spade queen, 3@h would be a rather better bid than 3@s|pg||
nt|woozle: At some point, bakhshi had to ask himself "partner is slamming, and I have...how much?"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: I wish I could tell Lew that it doesn't matter what he leads|pg||
nt|barnets: 17 tricks|pg||
nt|ritong: you certainly will not:)|pg||
pc|d4|nt|gambit: Les was ALWAYS a winner, maybe (too soon to call)  and there are many hands left|pg||
nt|woozle: easy to tell if Bakhshi misplays this...if he plays a card before claiming, he misplayed it|pg||
mc|13|nt|Vugraphzfc: He just showed his hand and claimed|pg||
nt|barnets: Grue by 16|pg||
nt|athene: bakhshi must be feeling pretty good - 2@H opener, and now 7NT|pg||
nt|athene: he won't feel bad about missing the horrible 3nt|pg||
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qx|c21|st||md|3SQHAKT92DA9853CAQ,S8764HJ74DT74CKT3,SAKJT92HQ8DKQC872,S53H653DJ62CJ9654|sv|n|mb|1S|nt|algraves:  yes that is a good point kit, |pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|chorush: This doesnt look right. How could 3NT even make, much less make 6?|pg||
nt|imp_jan: quite a surprising final (seed   7 v.   21)|pg||
nt|warrens:  K of @C lead.|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|warrens:  E had double showing reds or blacks and W assumed blacks|pg||
nt|gambit: please tell us I@H was conventional |pg||
nt|imp_jan: 1@H shows spades|pg||
nt|warrens:  of course, some pairs might get to 4@S, but not Grue-Cheek :)|pg||
nt|chorush: yes, it is a 1 spade response|pg||
nt|warrens:  7nt, requiring no suits to break at all|pg||
mb|2N|nt|algraves:  yes you can handle every suit breakig lots to zero|pg||
nt|kit: If Weinstein ever supports spades, that will probably do the trick|pg||
mb|p|nt|imp_jan: 3@D = spl |pg||
mb|3D!|an|Hx in !H|mb|p|nt|kit: but otherwise, they might not find out enough to bid the grand|pg||
nt|algraves:  the @S J is the key card in the bidding and Levin might end up having to make that judgement|pg||
mb|4N|nt|imp_jan: so it will end in spades |pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: After the double of 1H Kamil sees lead value in his hand|pg||
nt|warrens:  no comfortable leads from E's hand.|pg||
nt|chorush: no, very difficult hand to lead from|pg||
nt|warrens:  do we know what 3@D showed?|pg||
nt|kit: this seems invitational -- and now I doubt if they can reach the grand|pg||
mb|6N|nt|warrens:  if spades are 3-2, he can easily afford to go up with the Ace, but he has to think about 4-1|pg||
mb|p|nt|warrens:  of course, if he ducks, the defense might take the first 4 tricks |pg||
nt|dinos1: 7 by S now|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|woozle: so Bakhshi has at most DQ, SJ, HKJ?|pg||
nt|algraves:  yes Warren it would be very interesting to know what 3@D means. Whatever it means I',\m going to play it|pg||
nt|warrens:  we're now told it showed Hx in @H|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: 3@D slow @H support|pg||
nt|kit: problem is that Weinstein only invited a small slam|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: Hx or xxx|pg||
nt|algraves:  ah that is an excellent agreement. Its going on my card for sure|pg||
nt|algraves:  dinos is our all 4 hands analyst|pg||
nt|dinos1: could S show @sQ?|pg||
nt|algraves:  so would have bid 7|pg||
nt|algraves:  those who only see one hand pass|pg||
nt|drewsky: and for sure you will never have honor x in hearts and ALWAYS have 4 chuncky diamonds and NOT be able to showe them..on every hand for the rest of your life :)|pg||
pc|c3|nt|algraves:  I knew I would create controversy|pg||
mc|13|nt|kit: I think Weinstein had to be willing to commit to slam in order to reach the grand.  The question is whether or not he should have made that commitment|pg||
nt|warrens:  thanks Drew, glad you said that.  every system has tradeoffs, though Steve and Bobby have lots of great agreements|pg||
nt|algraves:  well it is really hard when you dont have an 8 card fit to find out about a key Jack|pg||
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qx|o22|st||md|4SAJ95HQ82D8543CJ8,SKQ742H74DJ76CA53,S86HAKJ9DAT9CKT74,ST3HT653DKQ2CQ962|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ritong: this should land in 1NT|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|woozle: Stansby, like Cheek in the other room, misreads the vulnerability and opens one spade in third seat|pg||
nt|ritong: unless del monte takes aa semi wild shot|pg||
nt|athene: you don't need much more than a good 15 to raise here but you do need a bit more i think|pg||
nt|woozle: Ish won't shoot at this vulnerability|pg||
nt|ritong: well he has good fillers|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|athene: delmonte can taste that thin +400 :)|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|woozle: perhaps not...3NT would liven up an otherwise dul board|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|nt|athene: maybe he can feel he has momentum and wants to try to really put EW away|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: EW aren't getting put away quietly though|pg||
nt|woozle: Martel figures that he needs some imps and the opponents are stretching, but his double is not a thing of beauty|pg||
nt|ritong: kind of street fight|pg||
nt|ritong: let s see who stays standing|pg||
pc|h7|nt|barnets: good lead|pg||
nt|barnets: gave nothing|pg||
nt|athene: delmonte certainly didn't want his partner to have the @HQ|pg||
nt|athene: he wanted it to be in west's hand|pg||
nt|mslair: high heart, club to the 8  |pg||
nt|po-s: Hmm, Heart ace and a small club?|pg||
nt|barnets: e/w have been defending well this match|pg||
nt|gambit: yes|pg||
nt|barnets: and saved some boards|pg||
nt|gambit: Well, that is the virtue of being World class players, defending like Klingons from the Romulons|pg||
nt|barnets: lloks like down 1 or 2|pg||
nt|barnets: can def get 2 clubs 2 spades and 2 diamonds|pg||
nt|barnets: ?|pg||
nt|woozle: club to the eight looks reasonable from here - maybe you can place Martel with some key pips for his double. Of course, my analysis would differ if the club nine was with west|pg||
nt|barnets: yes of course |pg||
nt|dburn: declarer can get two clubs, four hearts and two aces first, but...|pg||
nt|dburn: ...declarer's main chance is to find West with @cQ9|pg||
nt|dburn: so he may play in such a way that the defenders get their tricks first|pg||
nt|woozle: club to the jack and ace, then endplay east in clubs later?|pg||
nt|barnets: @CQ 9 thir|pg||
nt|barnets: third|pg||
nt|barnets: or doubleton|pg||
nt|barnets: would make 9 tricks|pg||
nt|dburn: indeed - I don't think he'll lead a club from the dummy, unless he's just giving up on the contract|pg||
nt|barnets: so he has to try that|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg||
nt|dburn: still, that could be the right thing for him to do, of course|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|nt|woozle: if he leads the club jack, West has to cover|pg||
nt|ritong: suspense|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cA|pg||
nt|po-s: well...|pg||
nt|woozle: wow. that play is much easier from here|pg||
nt|mslair: sigh|pg||
nt|ritong: eight in the bag  now let s discuss|pg||
nt|woozle: defense has to be pinpoint to get five tricks without giving him nine|pg||
nt|po-s: I wonder if the double was a warning to avoid spade lead|pg||
nt|barnets: maybe|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sT|nt|athene: now west knows where all the high cards are|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d7|nt|woozle: defense being timed well here...endplays will only make eight tricks|pg||
nt|dburn: so does South, of course, but it won't do him any good|pg||
nt|ritong: he better deal one light|pg||
nt|barnets: how about|pg||
nt|barnets: win ace|pg||
nt|woozle: diamond ace, four hearts pitching club jack, spade ace, diamond looks coolest, but still loses a long club (or if you keep the CJ, west gets spade tricks)|pg||
nt|barnets: cash 4 heart pitching club jack|pg||
nt|barnets: the sa ace a|pg||
nt|barnets: and dimond to endplay east|pg||
nt|woozle: defense will get at least one trick in the endgame...these endplays don't work|pg||
nt|athene: you would need to endplay east AND set up your fourth diamond, but you just can't do that|pg||
nt|athene: well, you can, but you don't get to the winning diamond|pg||
nt|barnets: only comes to 8|pg||
nt|woozle: lots of chatter from spectators, but the endplays don't quite work|pg||
nt|barnets: but it looks good though|pg||
pc|dA|nt|woozle: if south keeps the club jack, he gets endplayed with it...if he doesn't keep it, east gets a long club|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
nt|woozle: like I said, lots of chatter, but if you pitch the club jack then east gets a long club|pg||
nt|barnets: dec gets 1 spade 4 hearts one diamond and 2 clubs|pg||
nt|barnets: i thnk that only comes to 8|pg||
nt|woozle: if you keep it, east leads a low club to you and west gets a spade|pg||
nt|athene: i am being given lots of lines that net declarer 9 tricks - they do, but only by giving the defence 5 first|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: All these possibilities must be running through Bakhshi's mind, too|pg||
nt|barnets: in other room they are on board 29|pg||
nt|woozle: Bakhshi can definitely make it, on some other layout|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
nt|barnets: 7 boards ahead|pg||
pc|h8|pc|s4|pc|hA|nt|po-s: they play easier hands|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|jaapfr: one thing id 100% sure : after this board the score is 114-104:)|pg||
nt|ritong: he will try to make when west has 6@s|pg||
nt|ritong: so east is truly endplayed|pg||
nt|athene: yes maybe try to throw east in and set up his diamond AND keep the @SA as entry to it|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|ritong: after all, stansby is a very serious guy and opened " light" at unfav|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|nt|athene: right that's what he is going for|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d8|pc|c3|pc|c7|nt|barnets: i think well done e/w |pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|woozle: East should have exited a low club - same number of tricks, but with an element of torture|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|cK|nt|barnets: to get this right|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg||
nt|barnets: and get partner off spade lead|pg||
nt|chorush: if he was going for stansby having 6 spades and diamond breaking he needed to throw the club J|pg||
nt|gambit: if S cashed AS, then hearts, throw E in with KD (assuming no unblock) then yes, very tough, great hand, thx to Kibs for offering ideas\|pg||
pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SAJ95HQ82D8543CJ8,SKQ742H74DJ76CA53,S86HAKJ9DAT9CKT74,ST3HT653DKQ2CQ962|sv|e|nt|chorush: So Fleisher wlll hold the loss to 1 imp but a lost opportunity|pg||
mb|p|nt|imp_jan: a lot (im)possible on this one|pg||
nt|tejjyid: Can North justify a 3@S rebid? IF so, all much easier|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|kit: Levin knew he had the critical spade holding, but wasn't in position to take control for grand purposes|pg||
mb|d|nt|dburn: 3NT reached again by Grue and Cheek - I guess Levin did well not to lead the king of diamonds|pg||
nt|warrens:  lol|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|chorush: yes the south hand is a fine opening bid for precision players|pg||
mb|p|nt|dinos1: I thought 4N was KC so over sudden 6N response S had to bid 7 with @sQ :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: bid disaster for Stansby-Martel on board 19|pg||
nt|kit: big disaster|pg||
nt|warrens:  both|pg||
nt|warrens:  :)|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h6|nt|woozle: bah! I think that hands without two kings or an ace aren't a one-bid. Even more so with no majors.|pg||
nt|chorush: looks like making 4; if so will be 5 imps to Fleisher|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|woozle: making five, surely|pg||
nt|woozle: maybe only four after he plays low from dummy|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
nt|chorush: You'd have to argue with Meckwell and Hampson-Greco about the merits of opening that hand 1D. Personally i agree with you but....|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dK|nt|woozle: I like light openings with game potential as much as the next guy, but...|pg||
nt|chorush: The precision group opens nearly all 10 counts NV|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1SJ8742HDKT742CK32,ST96HAT854DQ85C98,SAQ5H3DAJCAQJT765,SK3HKQJ9762D963C4|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|3H|nt|athene: not automatic to bid a slam here|pg||
nt|woozle: 7C can make|pg||
mb|3S|mb|4H|nt|gambit: tough call for N|pg||
nt|athene: 6@C not an underbid in the other room facing passed hand|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|nt|dburn: if this is keycard for spades, South will need to treat that void as an ace|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|nt|gambit: 6@C?|pg||
nt|warrens:  does S show his void?  0 with a void?|pg||
nt|woozle: people saying it's hard to make 7C on a heart lead - not really. ruff, club ace, diamond ace, diamond king, diamond ruff, club king, claim|pg||
nt|athene: you might finesse diamonds in 7@C after 3@H - but maybe not; you know west has almost as many hearts as east|pg||
nt|po-s: off two aces - difficult|pg||
nt|athene: oh sorry you are short of trump entries to south anyway|pg||
nt|jaapfr: that only needs @d 3-3 AND @C 2-1:)|pg||
nt|po-s: aces=keycards|pg||
nt|athene: @C32 just not as big as you would like|pg||
nt|woozle: someone asked about 6S. That contract would suggest that North never looked at his club suit.|pg||
nt|gambit: 5@s by N, followed by 6@C from S|pg||
nt|athene: so the diamond finesse would not help as you can not pick up @DQxxx with west anyway|pg||
nt|dburn: if this really is Blackwood, South has denied any key cards for spades|pg||
nt|chorush: Could think about 6 clubs. If pard has no spade king or heart ace he might easily have the material to make 6 clubs|pg||
nt|dburn: indeed he might|pg||
nt|ritong: good point ira|pg||
nt|dburn: he ought to have something - he did bid 3@s, after all|pg||
nt|chorush: club K and diamond KQ are only other real high card values|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: This time it's Ish who's sweating.|pg||
nt|gambit: for sure, he should be|pg||
nt|barnets: he will make the last bid in the auction now|pg||
nt|athene: south's @CKxx more important than his @SJxxxx - maybe X (as in the other room) expressed the hand better than 3@S|pg||
nt|chorush: also unlikely for a passed hand who now bid 3 spades on a jack high suit not to have cllub tolerance|pg||
nt|woozle: fair call, although 3HX doesn't appeal|pg||
nt|jaapfr: pls any calculator available for 7@C chance:)?  @C must be 2-1 and @D 3-3 or !Q sec or !Qx|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gambit: that is thr trouble, when pard takes so long, even with his working void, can S move forward? I don't pretend to know but I see a storm cloud ahead |pg||
nt|barnets: now south cant bid slam|pg||
nt|woozle: Ish settles for 5S, and the lead changes...until the next board|pg||
pc|hA|nt|gambit: Delmonte hand-cuffed his partner|pg||
nt|gambit: not well bid|pg||
nt|dburn: well, the opponents handcuffed both of them - what was North supposed to do , after all?|pg||
nt|chorush: I doubt that Bakhshi was bidding a slam over an in temp 5 spades|pg||
nt|barnets: it is possible south may have bid a slam if  5@S was made intempo|pg||
nt|jaapfr: aha added @SK sec and @SKx onside:)|pg||
nt|athene: if south was going to do anything cute, he shld have bid something other than 5@D|pg||
nt|chorush: Why shoul d his partner not have the ace of hearts for one of his values. Opps have given no real clue they have 12 trumps|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg||
nt|po-s: needs  something more, like a squeeze or Spade finesse|pg||
nt|gambit: at the end of the day, N hand-cuffed S, who went quietly for a huge loss, N bidd poorly and his hesitation served no one |pg||
pc|hK|pc|s4|pc|h4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
nt|dburn: Bakshi trying to guard against a middle singleton in spades with East|pg||
mc|12|nt|barnets: the other room may be able to watch the last 8 boards online|pg||
nt|dburn: but now, will be relieved to see spades 3-2 after all|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Chip and Lew off to men's room|pg||
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qx|c23|st||md|1SJ8742HDKT742CK32,ST96HAT854DQ85C98,SAQ5H3DAJCAQJT765,SK3HKQJ9762D963C4|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|chorush: Bakshi maybe thinking about board 1|pg||
nt|chorush: A 3 level balance created a bad result|pg||
nt|imp_jan: NS range of 2@S makes life dif now for ew|pg||
nt|dburn: it won't create a great one here either|pg||
mb|3H|mb|d|nt|dburn: but he is already onto a bad result, due to the difference in opening styles|pg||
nt|dburn: Fleisher steadfastly refusing to open at the one level without enough points|pg||
nt|kit: another not so easy slam to bid|pg||
nt|warrens:  easier after the neg X|pg||
nt|algraves:  Bakhshi opened 2@H on 5 bagger seat 1 favourable and created enough confusion to get them to 5 doubled to boot|pg||
nt|kit: I would be scared to make neg double on South hand unless partner virtually never passes|pg||
mb|4H|mb|6C|mb|p|nt|woozle: The only reason to pause with the EW hands here is if a stop card was used|pg||
nt|imp_jan: 8-11|pg||
nt|chorush: NS methods will lead to a gain here. In the other room North felt he had enuf to raise to 3 after 2 spade rebid|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|warrens:  1100 save|pg||
pc|hK|pc|c2|nt|chorush: David, their weak 2 takes in some hands that others would open 1, which gives more definition when they open 1 of a major and rebid 2|pg||
nt|woozle: and there are a lot of juicy penalties when the opponents step in|pg||
nt|algraves:  1100 down with best defense in 6 @H|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg||
nt|algraves:  but 7@C makes by ruffing out diamonds first of course|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c9|nt|dburn: sure it does - was merely trying to strike a blow for the old fogeys in pointing out the dangers of opening the bidding without at least 12 hcp|pg||
nt|woozle: defense doing well here - after club ace, club to king (ruffed), trump exit, declarer can be held to seven tricks|pg||
nt|dburn: but I confess, I'd have opened that 1@s even playing a style where 2@s was 8-11|pg||
nt|woozle: This hand is nice, but not nice enough to upgrade two points|pg||
nt|chorush: Just talking with Bigtrain about that. We both agree with you|pg||
nt|dburn: and I'd have reached 3@s just as Cheek and Grue did, I'm afraid|pg||
nt|chorush: Id bet you reach 4 spades|pg||
nt|dburn: no, no - you need 25 points for game|pg||
nt|bigtrain: the hand evaluates with KNR as 15.15|pg||
nt|chorush: Kamil raised to 4 with a very similar hand in the 1st half|pg||
nt|dburn: meanwhile, though, even the two level is in some danger|pg||
nt|woozle: looks clear here to lead his trump - Fleisher probably has the stiff diamond because Bakhshi didn't shift to his|pg||
nt|chorush: not some danger. Just down if the defense takes its tricks|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe no one should have opened the bidding at all - nobody had any high cards|pg||
nt|chorush: passouts are an endangered species:)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|h7|pg||
nt|warrens:  true, if you bid 6@H, you might have to bid 7@H|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h6|pc|s2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h9|pc|s4|pc|h8|pg||
pc|cT|nt|algraves:  so then you have to go down 1400 in 7 @H so 10pts better to be minus 1390|pg||
pc|h2|pc|d2|nt|algraves:  every little bit counts|pg||
mc|12|nt|harmon: was never gonna be 1390|pg||
nt|algraves:  ah 30 pts better|pg||
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qx|o24|st||md|2SHAQ94DKQ873CKQ63,ST964HJ62DA2C9854,SAKQ75HK5DJ654CAT,SJ832HT873DT9CJ72|sv|o|nt|dburn: crikey|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Everyone's refreshed, we resume|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ritong: amazing, but these voids can be so trappy|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|athene: wasn't it schapiro who said his teammates bid a slam but found the ace of trumps offside?|pg||
nt|athene: sounds the sort of thing he used to say|pg||
nt|barnets: how about exclusion key card |pg||
nt|gambit: maybe N should bid in tempo and allow his partner to bid as he sees fit. The year-long hesitation means N is flying solo, I grant a very tough hand but make a decision in tempo ...|pg||
nt|gambit: whcih allows partner to weigh in w/o all the baggage that hesitations entail. |pg||
nt|barnets: can we do this here ?|pg||
nt|dburn: in spades? not easy to organise|pg||
mb|4D|an|key card|mb|p|nt|barnets: thats key card|pg||
nt|dburn: though maybe 5@s ought to be that - but North seems to have got keycard in first|pg||
nt|dburn: which is as well for his side|pg||
nt|barnets: he has 2 with the Q|pg||
nt|gambit: hopefully they can avoid the mistake of the other table|pg||
nt|ritong: certainly so|pg||
nt|barnets: hes checking if he can show 2 + Q + void|pg||
nt|athene: south wondering whether to show his void|pg||
nt|athene: of course if partner takes a long time to answer keycard you know he has a void in your suit|pg||
nt|dburn: in spades? most unlikely to do that|pg||
nt|warrens:  I wouldn't consider it in partner's suit|pg||
nt|athene: if it just takes him this long to count up to three, maybe bridge is not the game for him|pg||
mb|5N|nt|barnets: well thats what he must be thnking about|pg||
nt|athene: (or two, or whatever)|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: and he did|pg||
nt|ritong: uh oh|pg||
nt|chorush: that is an uncalled-for comment|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: did a lot of writing on the explanation pad|pg||
nt|po-s: Perhaps 4D wasn´t keycard|pg||
nt|ritong: i also suggest that we do not jeer too much if you do not mind gentlemen|pg||
nt|chorush: I am guessing 5NT is an even number of keycards with a void|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: It was, I was able to read that note|pg||
nt|dburn: then 5NT is hard to explain - I think Barnet's right; South is showing his spade void|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Ish just wrote KC|pg||
nt|gambit: deja vu, all over again? (Ty Yogi) |pg||
nt|athene: standard is that 5nt is even number of keys and a (useful) void, isn't it?|pg||
nt|dburn: I don't know - plenty of variants around|pg||
nt|athene: with odd number of voids you cue the void if below trump suit else bid 6 of trump suit?|pg||
nt|barnets: so many hands when nobody is sure what exactly is going on|pg||
nt|athene: but that is when it is 4NT|pg||
nt|dburn: with an odd number of voids, you need a 13-card suit|pg||
nt|passell: weird to show void in partners suit and take up so much room|pg||
nt|barnets: including north south,|pg||
nt|po-s: that might be over a 4NT ask, but seems a waste of space otherwise|pg||
nt|athene: so you have to think ok, are you counting steps |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Does one usually show a void in partner's suit?|pg||
nt|mslair: no|pg||
nt|dburn: if one can do so without ambiguity, I guess one might|pg||
nt|athene: i think if you can show the void in partner's suit explicitly you might but otherwise not|pg||
mb|6C|mb|p|nt|dburn: but cases of the kind must be very rare|pg||
nt|athene: i mean if there is any doubt partner must assume it isn't|pg||
nt|barnets: if nort bids 6@C that will be try|pg||
nt|dburn: I don't like the look of this|pg||
nt|passell: will he dbl 7dia?|pg||
nt|po-s: if 5NT asked for trump honours....|pg||
nt|barnets: that would not be sporting would it ?|pg||
nt|gambit: if they bid 7, Yes, they will dbl|pg||
mb|7D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: but Stansby might not show the same magnanimity as Cheek|pg||
nt|passell: they didnt in the other room|pg||
nt|warrens:  3 bad results in a row|pg||
nt|ritong: well a 2 imps swing|pg||
nt|gambit: edgar laughed at the complications of key card, here they seem more explicit than ever |pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|barnets: some specs are asking why 7@D was not doubled in the other room|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|warrens:  going to be hard to keep their composure for the last 8.  |pg||
pc|dA|nt|gambit: terribler, can't count key cards?|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|nt|passell: all caused by showing a void in partners suit|pg||
mc|12|nt|athene: west in the other room thought that passing 7@D was the best way to ensure a good profit|pg||
nt|po-s: I will  train juniors next weekend, should I include this deal for bidding?|pg||
nt|chorush: If Bridge World brings back its You Be the Judge feature, this hand will be first in line|pg||
nt|athene: he wasn't sure that 7@S or 7NT was going down|pg||
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qx|c24|st||md|2SHAQ94DKQ873CKQ63,ST964HJ62DA2C9854,SAKQ75HK5DJ654CAT,SJ832HT873DT9CJ72|sv|o|mb|p|nt|harmon: wasnt gonna risk for 20 pts|pg||
mb|1S|nt|imp_jan: dbl = cards or ?|pg||
nt|chorush: I can understand opening 1NT with 5-4 in the minors or a minor major, but this seems bizarre to me|pg||
nt|dburn: major - minor, I think|pg||
nt|woozle: or 4M, longer m?|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves:  no of course not|pg||
mb|2D|nt|woozle: Bakhshi presumably using Stayman to construct an invitational sequence which can stop in 2S|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|harmon: anudder slam|pg||
nt|kit: this oneshould be very easy to bid|pg||
nt|warrens:  a lot of potential swing hands, though this one looks pretty tame|pg||
nt|algraves:  Harmon sailed through our Candian spelling bee national contest|pg||
mb|3H|nt|dburn: in the old days, when someone opened 1NT they had a lot of points, and when someone doubled it they had more points|pg||
nt|imp_jan: 2n: looking for the m|pg||
nt|dburn: this is the same kind of thing: 1NT shows a major and a minor, and so does double|pg||
nt|warrens:  lol|pg||
nt|chorush: lol. Good one|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: shoor did|pg||
nt|algraves:  in the phonetics division|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|woozle: Kamil eventually decides that this diamond suit is biddable|pg||
nt|tejjyid: Canada has a Brookly phonetics spelling division?|pg||
nt|tejjyid: *Brooklyn|pg||
nt|algraves:  so 6NT is safest slam but very hard to bid|pg||
nt|algraves:  well I think 4@C unambiguous salm move in @D|pg||
nt|algraves:  3@S sort of muddies the waters around choice of games involving 4 @S|pg||
mb|4H!|nt|imp_jan: these guys like to compete (ew)|pg||
nt|woozle: Ish thinking? Surely he did enough opening 1NT|pg||
nt|sybarra: is thinking an overbid?|pg||
nt|sybarra: oops sorry |pg||
nt|dburn: he may be worried that he did not do justice to his heart suit|pg||
nt|woozle: Thinking certainly can be an overbid|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: and he has a couple of spade honours, should his partner not have heart support|pg||
nt|algraves:  always best to send clearest message you can if possible|pg||
mb|5D|nt|woozle: if only he had a hand|pg||
nt|dburn: well, there isn't much he can do about that - nobody dealt him one|pg||
nt|imp_jan: hopefully the play is faster then the bidding|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves:  4@H blackwood I guesss|pg||
mb|5H|mb|p|nt|algraves:  anybody know?|pg||
mb|7D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: big oops if this happened|pg||
pc|dA|mc|12|nt|jaapfr: they must be very tired I assume|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: Break for NS|pg||
nt|algraves:  well wasnt it Edgar kaplan who had so many misgivings around all the Blackwood advancements|pg||
nt|kit: Weinstein was king asking looking for 6NT maybe,and Levin though they had all the keycards|pg||
nt|algraves:  Just maybe Edgar was on to something|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: Room empty|pg||
nt|poohbear: they didnt read your article , kit|pg||
nt|kit: although if 4@H was RKC, the 5@D call showed 2 with the queen, so that doesn't make sense either|pg||
nt|algraves:  for those who wonder why Cheek did not double, how , hyothetically would you feel if North ran to 7NT and your partner started thinking on opening lead|pg||
nt|algraves:  and the X gains no imps against 920 sero, nada|pg||
nt|algraves:  so it is all downside , no upside|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: back|pg||
pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3SJT94HAJ2D3CKQ972,SA632H8753DK8CJT5,SK5HKT94DJ952CA83,SQ87HQ6DAQT764C64|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfc: Ish: "Good double"|pg||
nt|ritong: seigneur|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1D|nt|barnets: south gets the blame I think|pg||
nt|dburn: was just about to send David Bakhshi a congratulatory text and go to bed - guess I'll have to stay up now|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|dburn: I guess there was a defence to 2NT at the other table|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: just as there is at this one|pg||
nt|barnets: almost 4000 specs are watching the final of one of the worlds leading tournaments|pg||
nt|athene: 4th best from longest and strongest, you mean?|pg||
nt|barnets: and have just seen both sides bid a grand off the trump ace|pg||
nt|barnets: bidge is such a remarkeable game|pg||
nt|dburn: but another thing Kaplan was fond of pointing out was how often a player would bid a suit and then not lead it against notrump|pg||
nt|po-s: n ote that the other North opened 1 D|pg||
nt|athene: no, East did|pg||
nt|dburn: he had to - he plays strong club|pg||
nt|athene: North passed|pg||
nt|ritong: it happened already po  we were told 1@D is unbal|pg||
nt|po-s: admittedly nebulous I think|pg||
nt|dburn: oh, sorry - wrong pair East-West|pg||
nt|poohbear: 1@d opening shows 5 so with 4-4-4-1 open 1@c|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|dburn: well, he led a diamond|pg||
pc|d3|nt|dburn: but the wrong diamond - though could easily have been right|pg||
nt|po-s: sorry - the long diamond hand opened ie East|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|s4|pg||
nt|timb: yep|pg||
nt|ritong: now can north deduce from the overtake in @ds west had Kx initially?|pg||
nt|kit: I thnk so|pg||
nt|chorush: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: and from esat's reluctance to establish his suit his has no quck entry?|pg||
nt|dburn: I should think so - he might have raised with king third, for one thing|pg||
nt|dburn: and he might have encouraged rather than overtake, unless the queen demanded that he unblock|pg||
nt|po-s: might well turn into an imp for Grue|pg||
nt|chorush: I think it will PO|pg||
nt|kit: overtake makes no sense with Kxx -- for all he knows, partner has QJ10xx|pg||
nt|dburn: and the queen lead is not all that likely from AQ10xx, anyway|pg||
nt|ritong: okay  so west had @dKx for sure, even if west does not continue the suit|pg||
nt|ritong: east*|pg||
nt|chorush: If Martel clears diamond, Ish will take his 8 tricks and find out that they have turned into 10|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, the @hQx magic wand|pg||
nt|chorush: If not, Ish likely to lead spade to K and then take his 8 tricks, again finding out that he has 10|pg||
nt|athene: martel wld be far more likely to clear the diamonds if he held the @SA|pg||
nt|athene: if he thinks this long about it it makes it less likely he has the ace|pg||
nt|ritong: the fact that he takes that long is a strong indication|pg||
nt|ritong: he has no entry|pg||
nt|dburn: indeed - by the same token, though, the queen lead makes rather less sense from a man with no entry than a man with one|pg||
nt|ritong: no direct entry, that is|pg||
nt|harmon: GOOD point David|pg||
nt|ritong: yes david|pg||
nt|kit: if he shifts to anything but a club, that gives declarer 8 tricks so declarer will cash|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
nt|ritong: with AQ10xx(x) and an ace, Ace lead is indicated|pg||
nt|passell: now 10 for sure|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg||
nt|dburn: no point finding @dJx in dummy, @dKxx with declarer if you don't have an entry - he'll just duck anyway|pg||
nt|chorush: so now he will take his 8 tricks that turn into 10|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c8|nt|dinos1: triple sqz))|pg||
pc|d4|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c9|pc|h3|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s6|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ritong: cautious unblock now to win 1 imp|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hJ|mc|10|pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3SJT94HAJ2D3CKQ972,SA632H8753DK8CJT5,SK5HKT94DJ952CA83,SQ87HQ6DAQT764C64|sv|e|nt|imp_jan: a break???|pg||
nt|imp_jan: we have breaks continuously..|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: Scores for boards for 1-2 at other table verified|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|d|mb|r!|an|!H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|kit: redouble shows hearts I think|pg||
mb|2N|nt|gambit: vul, he goes|pg||
nt|woozle: At the other table, East reached 4S but lost trump control in the play, down 2|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Very difficult hand for N-S to stop in club partial|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|imp_jan: work to do|pg||
nt|woozle: down one looks inevitable - a trick to lose in each suit|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: Scores from other table 1-2 correct|pg||
nt|imp_jan: a little bit too much, i am afraid (for ew)|pg||
pc|hA|nt|woozle: Fleisher, like Cheek, leads the trump jack|pg||
pc|h8|nt|kit: But now opening lead is critical|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|gambit: wow, thought a heart more palatable, granted all choices are tainted|pg||
nt|kit: And once again, a stopper is as strong as it sounds|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h2|nt|woozle: singeton trump leads don't come highly recommended, much less singleton jacks, but he can smell that the opponents will need ruffs for tricks|pg||
pc|h5|nt|woozle: In a cunning mood, Fleisher might have won the diamond ACE|pg||
pc|hT|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hK|nt|imp_jan: remarkable play: @CJ|pg||
nt|woozle: which would avoid the mandatory ruffing finesse position in diamonds|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s4|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|woozle: CJ only loses badly to stiff king...better than ace and another club|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c8|mc|9|pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4SJ83HKT4DQ9CKT642,SAKQT6HJ987DT62CJ,S9542HQ2DA4CA9873,S7HA653DKJ8753CQ5|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfc: director just told them they need to speed up, the other table is finished|pg||
nt|chorush: PO could have saved 10 minutes on the clock when he said that Grue might well win an imp|pg||
nt|athene: specialized 2@S response in the other room showing 5@S-4/5@H|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: he suggests they pass a couple out|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|barnets: here dec was saved the @D guess when|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: nort h won the opening @C lead|pg||
pc|c2|nt|barnets: an shifted to the @D ace and another|pg||
nt|ritong: looks like 110|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|barnets: unless  north had Aqx in diamonds|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
nt|ritong: and an other "small" imp|pg||
nt|barnets: in which case he was losing a ruff|pg||
nt|athene: no swing here either way|pg||
nt|athene: 140 vs 130 or 140 vs 150|pg||
pc|h2|nt|kit: queen of hearts shift will hold declarer|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg||
nt|athene: any heart shift holds to ten|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|nt|athene: now declarer can't draw trumps and run the spades for heart pitches|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s7|nt|athene: still a guess in trumps of course|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|h3|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|h6|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg||
nt|chorush: wd to get push|pg||
mc|10|nt|athene: people always try to pin the queen in these positions rather than drop the ace|pg||
nt|dburn: you see - you take a lot more tricks if you play faster|pg||
pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4SJ83HKT4DQ9CKT642,SAKQT6HJ987DT62CJ,S9542HQ2DA4CA9873,S7HA653DKJ8753CQ5|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2S!|an|5!S-5!H invit|nt|dburn: better for Kamil not to get involved in this one|pg||
nt|gambit: is a call with the N hand obligatory?|pg||
nt|dinos1: 4@s4@h and INV?|pg||
nt|dinos1: 5@s*|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|dburn: seems to be, these days|pg||
nt|gambit: neg double presumably |pg||
nt|imp_jan: south has an auto pass, and east will bid 2@S|pg||
nt|imp_jan: sorry, west|pg||
nt|woozle: Unusually, Delmonte appears to have the high card strength promised by his opening bid|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: 2N, what do i know?|pg||
nt|dburn: crikey - North-South are in deep trouble now|pg||
nt|gambit: there is a first time for everything|pg||
pc|c2|nt|woozle: Fleisher's bid only looks reasonable if there's a good chance that the minor is five cards long|pg||
nt|imp_jan: yes, if, but not this time|pg||
nt|woozle: playing 2H as H+minor 5/4 either way is awful|pg||
nt|algraves:  Grue and Cheek getting one last wind here with 8 boards to go in a week they have played every deal|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|dburn: they don't - Kamil would have doubled with 4-5|pg||
nt|gambit: out of the frying pan |pg||
nt|woozle: Nickell-Freeman showed off that method in Challenge the Champs, playing a 4-2 spade fit cold for game in three other strains|pg||
nt|dburn: and maybe Fleisher thought that vulnerable, he would have 5-5|pg||
nt|algraves:  Levin and Weinstein have regrouped after the slam misunderstanding|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
nt|dburn: still, the cavalry has arrived|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|woozle: I don't like the 3S bid unless there's real ambiguity about the second double|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d2|pg||
nt|dburn: and those umbrellas blowing inside out in the streets of Louisville are because of Kamil and Fleisher's sighs of relief|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: Ish "sorry" as dummy appeared|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dQ|nt|woozle: I like the agreement that in an auction, our partnership can only double one suit for takeout|pg||
nt|woozle: certainly beats ambiguity|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|h8|pg||
nt|dinos1: 7N in OR, b21|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o27|st||md|1SKT932HKT7D8CKQJ5,SAJ74HA8543D5C976,S86HJ96DKQJT6432C,SQ5HQ2DA97CAT8432|sv|o|nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|athene: firstly it's more fun, but also, sometimes if you drop the ace they get a trump promotion with the bare queen anyway|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|warrens:  right to pin the queen if there's a possible trump promotion coming|pg||
nt|barnets: East led the @CA here v 3@D|pg||
mb|1N|an|semi|mb|2C|nt|barnets: when he won the trump ace he shifted to the @H Q|pg||
nt|barnets: had he played the @SQ declarer would have to guess hearts to make|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|drewsky: Someone mentioned to me that there is a possible board that is being protested....does anyone know about this potential committee hand ?|pg||
nt|dburn: good idea to set the clubs up, thus giving declarer a guess in hearts instead of a finesse that would work|pg||
nt|kit: all the remaining boards could be pushes or close to pushes, so this could be a very close match|pg||
nt|dburn: not such a good idea then to resolve it|pg||
nt|warrens:  Kit, not  30, imo|pg||
nt|athene: EW raising clubs might get north going|pg||
nt|passell: one very good result still for fleisher to come in|pg||
nt|ritong: no drew|pg||
nt|drewsky: I have been advised that board 10 from teh 3rd quarter is a committe hand|pg||
nt|warrens:  what was the result on 10 and who is protesting?|pg||
nt|harmon: who remembers back that far??|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|nt|barnets: grue is protesting|pg||
nt|chorush: 3S down 1 in one room. 1NTX making three in the other|pg||
nt|passell: was that the hand they could have collected a number against 3clubs dbld?|pg||
nt|dburn: indeed|pg||
nt|barnets: yes|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|po-s: I would protest such a result too|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|d2|pg||
nt|dinos1: same lead|pg||
nt|barnets: a bid was explained as 5-5 and turned out to be 5-4|pg||
nt|dburn: same lead, same option for East when he wins that diamond|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg||
nt|passell: he might have been told 2nt was forward going instead of pass or correct|pg||
nt|barnets: thats what the protest is about|pg||
nt|passell: might claim he would have passed the dbl|pg||
nt|dinos1: now can make if fin @hQ|pg||
nt|po-s: now he can make if he plays a heart|pg||
nt|barnets: nnobody knows why he did not pass his partners double as it wnet|pg||
nt|passell: no trump back then spade thru|pg||
nt|dburn: West doesn't have his trump any more|pg||
nt|passell: right|pg||
nt|athene: ok, so declarer has found two aces with east|pg||
nt|athene: what does west need for his good club raise (2@S)?|pg||
nt|kit: now can make with heart guess|pg||
nt|athene: the other two aces?|pg||
nt|passell: should make now|pg||
nt|athene: so the heart guess is ok|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|nt|athene: might be time to cash that @SA and give up|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|athene: save an imp, perhaps|pg||
nt|kit: Martel had to win first diamond and shift to spade -- not obvious|pg||
mc|10|nt|athene: that's why delmonte led the @DQ, not the king|pg||
nt|athene: he wants to find the ace but not have east win and play a spade|pg||
pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1SKT932HKT7D8CKQJ5,SAJ74HA8543D5C976,S86HJ96DKQJT6432C,SQ5HQ2DA97CAT8432|sv|o|nt|algraves:  so 2@S showed 5@S and 4@H invitational values|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|F|mb|p|nt|woozle: Ish passed this hand?|pg||
mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|kit: this one better be forcing notrump :)|pg||
nt|algraves:  Bahkshi and Del Monte have bid the grand on 21|pg||
mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|gambit: that is the equivalent of turning a silk purse into the sow's ear, I hate to be unduly critical but when W passed the neg double he turned the cube, then chickened out...|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|an|invit !D|nt|woozle: Ish might think about kicking here...good club cards, and expecting a spade void opposite|pg||
nt|passell: great 6 hearts 5-2 club break may doom it|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: On last hand, Ish maintains he would have passed 3@C x if 5-4 likely|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: 6H safe enough if permitted two diamond ruffs|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves:  if they can go plus on 24 they open a pretty useful  lead|pg||
mb|p|pc|cA|nt|vugraphzfh: Fleisher "i have never seen him do it Vul without 5-5"|pg||
nt|algraves:  so 2@H was a relay to 2@S and a variety of hands after including I presume a weak spade preference|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|fcarioca: S|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|nt|woozle: doesn't sound like a partnership agreement to be described without qualification|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
nt|gambit: ish should listen to his partner, not some tentative agreement, that is desperate and shooting for a second bite at the apple|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg||
mc|11|nt|kit: hard to see how Cheek can know to cash if he is trying to beat the contract|pg||
pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2SA3HAQT74DAJ8CJT7,SJ76542H6DKT3CA63,SK8HJ32D9652C9542,SQT9HK985DQ74CKQ8|sv|n|mb|2S|nt|dinos1: has to shift to the suit where pd has AJ|pg||
nt|ritong: 5 comparisons left|pg||
nt|dburn: these are solid results from Cheek and Grue|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: This looks headed down 1|pg||
nt|poohbear: look more solid for Levin Weinstein|pg||
nt|athene: with two entries he will surely lead his suit, weak though it is|pg||
nt|kit: which would be 1 IMP for Grue|pg||
nt|drewsky: You are both correct. The match will be decided at THIS table.|pg||
pc|s6|nt|ritong: let s hope NS will not try to recover their presumed bad boards, which were pushes in fact|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|nt|drewsky: sapde king, then heart jack|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|athene: no way NS will believe 7@D was good|pg||
nt|poohbear: 4@hs|pg||
nt|athene: but they might for example hope the other room missed the 6@C|pg||
nt|kit: doesn't matter if he covers or not, but Martel doesn't know that|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|athene: so i don't know they will have a hugely incorrect impression of the state of the match|pg||
nt|passell: this match will be decided in committee I suspect|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
nt|passell: very bad for bridge in my opinion|pg||
pc|hT|nt|dburn: that would be rather a shame, but if it has to be, it has to be|pg||
pc|s4|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg||
nt|drewsky: Several years ago I was up until 5 am to see if my team advanced to the next round.....|pg||
pc|h7|pc|c3|pc|d2|pc|h9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg||
pc|h4|nt|passell: I remember Drew  sadly I had to serve on that committee|pg||
nt|drewsky: And about 15 years ago I was on a committee to decide the final, up until 4 am|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg||
nt|drewsky: yes mr. passell u were|pg||
nt|passell: that committee cured me of roaming around after the game|pg||
nt|po-s: whoever has bid a grand off the trump ace isn´t going to be optimistic about the standing'|pg||
nt|barnets: no probably not PO|pg||
nt|poohbear: Levin Weinstein are :)|pg||
nt|poohbear: they know they won 2 imps|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2SA3HAQT74DAJ8CJT7,SJ76542H6DKT3CA63,SK8HJ32D9652C9542,SQT9HK985DQ74CKQ8|sv|n|nt|woozle: maybe 6H isn't so safe with two diamond ruffs - hard to not promote a trump for south with all those exits from the board|pg||
nt|woozle: diamond ace, diamond ruff, club to Q, diamond ruff, club ace, spade ruff, claim|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|drewsky: But if Grue had ducked the first @D he woiuld have a signal for spades, and perhaps could have beaten 3@D|pg||
mb|1D|an|cb short|mb|1H|nt|kit: still doesn't beat it I don't think|pg||
mb|2H!|an|!S|nt|drewsky: 2 hearts, 2 spades, and a @D on a heart misguess ?|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|kit: possible|pg||
mb|d|an|t/o|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|3S|nt|dinos1: E having 3 aces is less probable|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: Is this a mild upgrade from Bakhshi...not sure the hand is worth it with these dreadful tight honours|pg||
nt|dburn: how many is that on the KNR scale?|pg||
nt|dinos1: 3A + @sQ|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: as a guess, less than 18|pg||
nt|jstokes: 16.4|pg||
nt|woozle: I make the East hand 15.4 in raw KnR count|pg||
nt|algraves:  so this is close to 2 down|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves:  in @H|pg||
nt|kit: Grue over-competing on his 4-3-3-3, but Cheek wisely didn't take him seriously|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|algraves:  and this will make |pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|nt|chorush: Move the AK of diamonds to the heart suit and his hand would be worth the upgrade|pg||
nt|kit: might not make -- if North puts jack of hearts through early defense can avoid end-play, and declarer will probably misguess diamonds|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pg||
nt|kit: if Sout leads club, declarer can do well by cashing third club before playing spade|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c6|nt|kit: oh sorry -- thought declarer had 9 of diamonds -- so probably won't misguess|pg||
pc|c4|nt|woozle: move the C KQJ into hearts and it's close to a 2NT opening|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|nt|chorush: Walter Johnson says the current hand is worth 16.4 but if the AK of diamonds were in hearts it would be worth 19|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: room contentious over convention cards and stated agreements|pg||
nt|woozle: For all of our point-count scoffing, however, it does appear that 3NT is going to make|pg||
nt|dburn: well, whatever it's worth, it will be worth 400 if Kamil does not play a spade, but -50 if he does|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|dburn: and he didn't|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
nt|chorush: a spade shift would have beaten this, I think|pg||
nt|algraves:  the curse of Scotland and Kit|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s5|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s6|pc|h3|pc|s9|pc|h4|pg||
nt|algraves:  so for those of you at home. Grue now knows the exact hand and that south has 3@D|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|nt|kit: declarer forced into winning position it seems|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d2|pg||
nt|algraves:  therefore his only play is low to ten|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3S542HT8DKJT5CAT32,SA76H76542D64CQ76,SKT83HAK93DA972CK,SQJ9HQJDQ83CJ9854|sv|b|nt|po-s: I think they play another  few boards|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ritong: all these "small" imps flying around|pg||
nt|dburn: European Championships, Killarney 1991: grand missing trump ace bid at about ten of about thirty tables|pg||
nt|po-s: exactly|pg||
nt|dburn: these things happen|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|athene: the poles bid 7nt on that one didn't they|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: "striving for perfection" as the bulletin put it|pg||
pc|c5|nt|po-s: David, did we?|pg||
nt|chorush: I dread this happening but i assume that if the match ended in a tie, the appeal would be heard before a tiebreaker was played|pg||
nt|dburn: it would have to be, yes|pg||
nt|kit: this contract hasn't made yet|pg||
nt|passell: a top pair bid 7nt against me in blue ribbon with no clubs in either hand|pg||
nt|sybarra: so did you lead a club?|pg||
nt|harmon: did u lead em??|pg||
nt|ritong: meanwhile del monte is in a not so cold one|pg||
nt|passell: he knows declarer has the stiff king I think from the ole rule of 11   or stiff J|pg||
nt|kit: I think Stansby can work out to not go up queen of clubs|pg||
nt|passell: yes indeed|pg||
nt|warrens:  or K4 or J4, right?|pg||
nt|dburn: not sure Stansby is familiar with the del Monte style, but he will probably work it out|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
nt|passell: yes|pg||
nt|dburn: or not|pg||
nt|ritong: or not|pg||
nt|poohbear: I wonder if Bakhshi bids 3NT if he thought his card was better|pg||
nt|po-s: Will he make this?|pg||
nt|po-s: I suppose now, yes|pg||
nt|warrens:  or even 84|pg||
nt|kit: Stansby playing Martel for KJxx of clubs -- reasonable|pg||
nt|passell: some tired players  a lot of bridge|pg||
nt|dburn: 84, 94 all possible|pg||
nt|drewsky: THIS layout illustrates why it is good to lead the 8 from J98|pg||
nt|drewsky: rusinow|pg||
nt|barnets: many lead the 9|pg||
nt|drewsky: yes barny|pg||
nt|kit: Even with this start, declarer is far from home|pg||
nt|dburn: Rusinow players can't do that - it shows the ten, so they have to lead the eight|pg||
nt|drewsky: i like rusinow...all the way down to the 98|pg||
nt|kit: I can see him taking 2 losing heart finesses|pg||
nt|barnets: not too far from home kit|pg||
nt|passell: I agree drewski|pg||
nt|dburn: meanwhile, that club play hasn't actually given declarer a trick, just made the defence more awkward|pg||
nt|kit: but he will get diamonds right due to the entry considerations|pg||
nt|passell: he may guess diamond and dbl hook hearts|pg||
nt|athene: the defence may play another club thinking the finesse is there for declarer anyway|pg||
nt|po-s: guessing diamonds, misguessing hearts?|pg||
nt|kit: But after the first heart hook Martel will likely shift to spades, and that is  9|pg||
nt|barnets: east is endplayed|pg||
nt|barnets: whn dec cshes 3 diamonds|pg||
nt|drewsky: seems to me that declarer will wotk on spades before hearts|pg||
nt|barnets: and hooks heart|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg||
nt|barnets: he must give dec his nintht ttrick|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|kit: surprised he didn't cash ace first just in case -- I don't see downside to that|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|passell: may get out with a dia|pg||
nt|dinos1: @d now|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|nt|geot: men han skulle spilt seg fri i ruter...Ish sin plan var dobbelkappen i ruter|pg||
nt|drewsky: push board now for sure|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s4|nt|athene: nice to see someone winning jack from QJ doubleton :) of course you are supposed to play them randomly|pg||
nt|passell: now an overtrick or 2|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
nt|athene: but the queen is FAR more popular at lower levels|pg||
nt|po-s: a push it seems|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c29|st||md|3S542HT8DKJT5CAT32,SA76H76542D64CQ76,SKT83HAK93DA972CK,SQJ9HQJDQ83CJ9854|sv|b|nt|algraves:  if he knew that south was 2524 then he could play diamond to King and duck on way back sure the the strong hand had Ax|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|chorush: So 11 imps hung here on whether or not this contract was beaten|pg||
nt|dburn: very good result for Cheek and Grue|pg||
nt|chorush: Yes, enormous|pg||
nt|dburn: 3NT couldn't be beaten, but it did not look obvious to bid it|pg||
nt|woozle: 4H might well make, but 3NT, with the spades entryless, was a little of a lucky make|pg||
mb|3D!|an|mixed|nt|woozle: Someone asked how you make 4H, and someone else answered it - lead the diamond ten when you're in dummy with the spade ace. But  also, West might lead a diamond, or the opponents ...|pg||
nt|woozle: might be slow to knock out the spade ace and grant you a club trick, or East might be endplayed|pg||
nt|algraves:  other room is way behind|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|woozle: Consider spade lead - ace, spade ruff, run some hearts, club jack to east|pg||
nt|woozle: lots of options, only some of them needing grievous misdefense|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: I think that the fortunate location of the diamond jack makes this one a make, provided he ruffs a spade to his hand|pg||
nt|woozle: To play to make, either play East for doubleton diamond ace (unlikely if he has his count) or ruff a spade and play for spades 6-2, or play West for a doubleton diamond nine|pg||
mb|p|pc|sJ|nt|dinos1: 3@d - constructive raise?|pg||
pc|s2|nt|poohbear: 3@d is a hand willing to play 3NT opp 18-19 bal|pg||
pc|s6|nt|woozle: 6-2 spades very likely if West thought for a while over 4H.|pg||
nt|dburn: this is the pressure line - but if East ducks, it may not work|pg||
nt|passell: dbl ace is not enough|pg||
nt|woozle: doubleton ace is fine - win king, draw trumps,low diamond out|pg||
nt|passell: yes  I meant unlikeliest after hesitation|pg||
nt|poohbear: mixed raise|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|kit: 3NT could go down on club lead and diamond misguess|pg||
nt|algraves:  seems natural to guess @D and make 5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d5|nt|algraves:  3NT on the @D guess as well it seems|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d3|nt|chorush: East did well not to drop the spade king which would have given the show away but had to make a hard duck of the diamond|pg||
nt|woozle: bakhshi takes the bait - and fleisher demonstrates another way that 4H might be made|pg||
nt|gambit: claiming quickly |pg||
pc|dT|nt|woozle: There's never a better assumption than human error...that's a principle that works for everything in life|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|kit: so possible pickup for Fleisher|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|algraves:  but better than @D guess as declarer can get two @s in NT if needed and the opps may not be able to untangle their tricks to get to 5|pg||
nt|algraves:  personally I am too tired to try and work that out lol|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4S853HKJ42DQ62C432,SAKQ6HA76D3CAK876,ST72HQ3DAKJT975CJ,SJ94HT985D84CQT95|sv|o|nt|athene: can EW get to 4@S here?|pg||
nt|barnets: e/w cn make 4@S here|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: declarer doesn't need to ruff the second diamond - can just throw a heart|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|athene: but even if he ruffs, he is ok, with the trumps 3-3|pg||
nt|kit: after North's likely 3@D preempt, not easy to get to 4@S|pg||
nt|dburn: not impossible for the auction to be the same here|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|nt|dburn: certainly no one made a stupid bid at the other table|pg||
nt|ritong: tough problem for martel coming|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|nt|dburn: and this may work out the same for practical purposes|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: playing his partner for four tricks|pg||
nt|chorush: LC would approve. Where is he?|pg||
mb|4H|nt|dburn: or not - crikey|pg||
nt|kit: nice choice|pg||
nt|drewsky: a brave pass indeed|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|warrens:  lol|pg||
pc|d2|nt|athene: ok, or not :)|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: LOL|pg||
nt|kit: oops -- didn't happen|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg||
nt|kit: so will be down at least 1 -- maybe more|pg||
nt|drewsky: only at pairs is pass a consideration|pg||
nt|ritong: operator playing with our nerves|pg||
nt|kit: why is pass not a consideration here?  Plus is still better than minus|pg||
nt|athene: one drawback of passing is, even if it is right on the hand, it might dissuade partner from doubling in future and cost more than it gained|pg||
nt|passell: qxxx of clubs makes it scary|pg||
nt|dburn: sure, but you have long clubs as well as long hearts and no tricks - they could easily make four diamonds|pg||
nt|passell: partner has 1 more heart 1 less diam  for instance|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|kit: well, West does have what might be considered a model takeout double of 4@D, and passing does turn out 8 IMPs better than bidding 4@H|pg||
nt|algraves:  what is best defense double dummy from this point|pg||
nt|warrens:  I agree with Mike.  Partner doesn't always have a 20 count with all Aces.  and you might have a double fit in @h's and @C's|pg||
nt|kit: I'm not saying passing is right -- but I'm far from convinced that it isn't.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: but reverse partner's major holdings, and 4@h is icy while 4@d isn't going down too much|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|athene: these are hands where computers pass all the time because they don't care about psychology - they just do the simulation|pg||
nt|kit: If declarer ducks a heart, North should play a diamond I would thnk|pg||
nt|drewsky: Personally, I am a total wimp, and would Never dream of passing my pard's takeout double with that hand|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dQ|nt|kit: And now it my go ruff, ace of hearts, spade to jack, heart -- down many!|pg||
nt|dburn: I would dream of it, but then I would wake up shivering|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|kit: Good unblock by South|pg||
nt|chorush: Now if martel goes for the make he will be down many|pg||
nt|dinos1: will u play for @h3-3 after 4@d pre?|pg||
nt|chorush: well spades are 3-3|pg||
nt|barnets: north has either 3 spades or 3 hearts|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg||
nt|kit: any inference from North's shift at trick 2?|pg||
nt|algraves:  declareer might think diamnods are 8-2 on the bidding|pg||
nt|passell: this could be the match now|pg||
nt|dburn: no, but restricted choice considerations after that @hQ|pg||
nt|passell: not with the low dia lead|pg||
nt|kit: he can play ace of spades and spade to jack, saving one undertrick in case of disaster -- but most don't think of that|pg||
nt|algraves:  so that the third trump is "safe"|pg||
nt|dinos1: wdnt shift having KQx or QJx|pg||
nt|algraves:  well yes maybe the strange lead|pg||
nt|dburn: that is: with HHx in hearts, he might have played some honour other than the queen|pg||
pc|sA|nt|passell: hard to imagine going down the rest|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|nt|barnets: but two spades mighthelp the count|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|s6|nt|ritong: good play|pg||
nt|algraves:  true enpugh|pg||
pc|s2|nt|kit: he is doing just what I said it looks like|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg||
nt|chorush: he's going for it|pg||
nt|barnets: moment of truth now|pg||
nt|passell: the cup may ride on this 1|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: could he have HHx and still just preempt?|pg||
nt|dburn: and would he shift to clubs?|pg||
nt|barnets: maybe north could have played the @S 10|pg||
nt|kit: sure -- partner is passed hand|pg||
nt|po-s: perhaps Ish could have played the spade ten|pg||
nt|passell: 2 people giving upside down count|pg||
nt|drewsky: when partner is a passed hand, one can and should preempt with extras|pg||
nt|barnets: that would look more like 2|pg||
nt|dburn: Martel trying to assess how likely it is that the contract will be the same at the other table|pg||
nt|passell: he knows the dia count for sure|pg||
nt|athene: maybe you should go for it|pg||
nt|athene: because|pg||
nt|athene: if they are in 4@S at the other table|pg||
nt|athene: more 50s don't really hurt so much|pg||
nt|kit: what makes it tough is that if spades 3-3 4@S makes, but if spades 4-2 4@S doesn't make|pg||
nt|athene: so you might as well try to flatten it|pg||
nt|ritong: he knows @d 7/3|pg||
nt|drewsky: they do in this match|pg||
nt|dinos1: -5 or -1 is big diff|pg||
nt|ritong: so can imagine a lower preempt|pg||
nt|mslair: the bane of udca |pg||
nt|athene: yes, but not as much|pg||
nt|barnets: it does |pg||
nt|passell: but 5clubs down 1|pg||
nt|athene: if other room is 420 anyway|pg||
nt|ritong: the unknown element is south raising 4@d|pg||
nt|kit: sorry, guess 4@S can handle 4-2 split|pg||
nt|barnets: dec can pitch heart on second @D|pg||
nt|barnets: 4@S always makes|pg||
nt|drewsky: like passell said, THIS is the match|pg||
nt|kit: very hard to settle for down 1 when might make|pg||
nt|athene: it feels to me that the longer you think, the more likely you are to go for it|pg||
nt|algraves:  yes it is human nature to try and make it|pg||
nt|algraves:  so full marks to Martel if he gets it right|pg||
nt|kit: risks 200 to gain 470|pg||
nt|mslair: I never ask opponents if they play udca  I just casually look at their card:)|pg||
nt|dburn: if you were going to go for it, you would play quicky and get it over with|pg||
nt|dinos1: @c shift is the only indication|pg||
nt|drewsky: when u go for it, you gain 370 points against losing 200 points when wrong|pg||
nt|kit: 470|pg||
nt|drewsky: yes 470 kit|pg||
nt|dburn: no - this really is a restricted choice position with respect to the heart honours|pg||
nt|barnets: both north and south played upside down|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: I didn't actually see Delmonte's 2nd @S card, for all we know he played 10|pg||
nt|drewsky: i would go for it for one very good reason|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c2|nt|ritong: wow|pg||
nt|drewsky: i couldnt stand going down when i was cold|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d5|pg||
nt|athene: ok, he got it right|pg||
nt|dinos1: wd :)|pg||
nt|dburn: well done|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: wd Chip|pg||
mc|9|nt|passell: club shift worked well other table dummy was tapped so declarer played ace and a heart nothing def could do|pg||
nt|barnets: very well played|pg||
pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4S853HKJ42DQ62C432,SAKQ6HA76D3CAK876,ST72HQ3DAKJT975CJ,SJ94HT985D84CQT95|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|woozle: does Ish have a toy here, and if he does, does he want to use it?|pg||
mb|1C!|an|16+|nt|dburn: Weinstein had a useful one, in that East could pass when he did use it|pg||
mb|3D|nt|kit: Normal 3@D preempt for Levin, but maybe he will bid 4@D the way match is going|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|nt|woozle: Now Ish has another decision over 2D|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|dburn: del Monte could presumably also let East out in 2@d if he wished|pg||
nt|algraves:  4@S the best game|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|kit: now Grue has to make a big pass to go plus|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: 4@S would make, but hard to fault the E-W actions|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: Bakhshi ends up in 2S, which could offer hours of analysis opportunities for commentators|pg||
nt|gambit: a trump will hit the table faster than a speeding bullet|pg||
nt|woozle: If only we were paid by the hour|pg||
nt|dburn: meanwhile North-South, who are cold for 3NT and 5@c, have not yet made much of a move towards either|pg||
nt|dburn: understandably, given their values, but...|pg||
pc|d2|nt|woozle: Kamil might have competed in clubs at some point|pg||
nt|woozle: might not get them to game, but can at least get them to clubs|pg||
pc|d3|nt|algraves:  what about 4 @D by E|pg||
nt|dinos1: 4@d over 4@d?|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
nt|gambit: cold? how does he get to the dummy? after four spade tricks (logical) and a diamond switch|pg||
nt|algraves:  partner could be oh I am sorry|pg||
nt|algraves:  I did not see the 4@d bid|pg||
nt|algraves:  it was blacked out in my market|pg||
nt|algraves:  this of course is the one of the bigger prices the big club systems pay|pg||
nt|algraves:  but even playing standard 4@s after pre emption would be hard to find|pg||
nt|kit: seems like Levin will continue diamonds|pg||
nt|algraves:  the bottom line is that pre empts work. so get out your pre empts and start jumping around|pg||
nt|kit: Is Levin still thinking here?|pg||
nt|algraves:  so NS for Grue have missed 6@C for an 11 imp pickup for Fleisher|pg||
nt|mslair: is this hand makable with the dia return?|pg||
nt|dinos1: but will score in 7@d hand|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: long pause by levin|pg||
nt|algraves:  board 27 now looms as a big board|pg||
nt|algraves:  the possible vul 3NT played in 3@D by NS|pg||
nt|dinos1: not makeable coz def will tap E in time|pg||
nt|mslair: someone state a line to make with the 2nd dia play?|pg||
nt|kit: even with club shift, doubt if it can be made|pg||
nt|mslair: club return  pass the heart to the 6|pg||
nt|kit: and then the diamond|pg||
nt|mslair: ok  no  good|pg||
nt|harmon: lol|pg||
nt|passell: not even the great mr lair could make this 1|pg||
nt|kit: I could see this going down a lot if declarer plays all out for 3-3 trump split|pg||
pc|dA|nt|woozle: If South opened 1NT and North transferred to clubs with 2S, I think South is worth a superdooperaccept of 3NT - Kxxxxx and out opposite offers good play|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|h6|pg||
nt|passell: 4spades the only game here|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hQ|nt|gambit: I accept Noodle's cold double dummy |pg||
pc|h8|nt|kit: weinstein failed to unblock diamonds|pg||
nt|kit: so won't be the big set|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|woozle: Fleisher has done a good job for East, eliminating North's trumps|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o31|st||md|1SJ75HK32DK432CKQ2,SK642HA854DQT95C5,SQ93HJT76DA876C98,SAT8HQ9DJCAJT7643|sv|n|mb|1C|an|2+|mb|p|nt|dinos1: shd be 2@c+1 in OR|pg||
mb|1H|mb|3C|nt|dinos1: 5@c2@h2@s|pg||
nt|dinos1: @h was led|pg||
nt|athene: what does south lead against 3@C? heart won't work out too well|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|passell: with the heart lead looks like 3clubs will make|pg||
mb|p|nt|po-s: with any lead|pg||
nt|mslair: 1 down and the Delmonte team lead by 1 going into the last board|pg||
nt|warrens:  I don't think any lead beats it|pg||
nt|athene: diamond, @HJ shift...|pg||
nt|athene: maybe it is not enough|pg||
nt|kit: likely heart lead, so will make|pg||
nt|chorush: no lead beats it|pg||
nt|ritong: no, @h 8 becomes good|pg||
nt|barnets: a hearts ets up for a pitch|pg||
pc|h2|nt|po-s: will establish a heart trick if def attacks them|pg||
nt|athene: can they correct a miss-score?|pg||
pc|h4|nt|passell: it looks like they made 3 in the other room but claimed 2|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|chorush: diamond and a heart, taks ruffing finesse in diamonds throwing his heart|pg||
nt|athene: or was it just here  it was scored as 90|pg||
nt|ritong: please keep in mind a possible appeal|pg||
nt|drewsky: Unless the Grue team can pick up 6 imps on baord 32, the final baord, this match will be decided in committee.|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|dburn: they can correct a misclaim or misconcession, or an incorrectly tabulated score, yes|pg||
nt|passell: I went thru the play seems like he made 9 tricks|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|nt|drewsky: correction, 5 imps|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pg||
nt|barnets: yes it looks like 9 but may not be the right play|pg||
nt|dburn: no doubt the BBO technicians are working on a way to broadcast the committee hearing|pg||
nt|barnets: recorded|pg||
nt|ritong: next decade:)|pg||
nt|drewsky: not a chance of that, David|pg||
nt|barnets: sometimes the operators err|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: we never make misteaks|pg||
nt|barnets: :)|pg||
nt|ritong: of course not|pg||
nt|chorush: my movie of the other table stops at trick 7 with an apparent claim|pg||
nt|passell: I feel strongly a committee should have heard this before the 4th quarter started   now everyone knows they will decide the match|pg||
nt|dinos1: here can take 10 on dbl sqz|pg||
nt|dburn: there I could not agree more|pg||
nt|poohbear: Is it possible that the zebras determine the match due to time issues?|pg||
nt|kit: I agree 1000% Mike, but they never learn|pg||
nt|sybarra: why would they not decide the bd before the beginning of next qtr  (avoidance play?)|pg||
nt|barnets: the margin will go to 4 but may be only 3|pg||
nt|passell: I know it is human nature to try not to change the outcome unless it is a serious infraction   |pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cJ|nt|dburn: people, it really is not appropriate for us to discuss a possible appeal here - please, kind spectators, keep the questions down :)|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|athene: if north wants to attack spades without giving a trick there he has to lead the queen doesn't he|pg||
nt|passell: also the number of imps involved could alter the 4th quarters strategies|pg||
pc|s7|nt|sybarra: its a hand from previous quarter |pg||
pc|s2|mc|10|pg||
qx|c31|st||md|1SJ75HK32DK432CKQ2,SK642HA854DQT95C5,SQ93HJT76DA876C98,SAT8HQ9DJCAJT7643|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|woozle: The case can be made for passing either, unless Ish might bid 2H with 5/5 or something|pg||
nt|gambit: We need Amoils back in |pg||
nt|chorush: Wonder why declarer wouldnt hope for the AQ of hearts and ace of clubs in South?|pg||
nt|passell: lots of imps in the air at this table|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C!|an|natural|nt|woozle: does look like a better shot|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gambit: dble from E?|pg||
nt|kit: problem for West hand -- partner might have a 4-card major in which case bidding is best -- but if not, passing is best|pg||
nt|passell: 3nt is not terrible needs honor dbl of clubs onside|pg||
pc|h2|nt|kit: depends on your definition of terrible|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|nt|chorush: I think that systemically Kamil usually bids 2H with 4 but maybe not if he hates his hand|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|woozle: In that case, he missed a chance to describe his hand properly after Ish very effectively jumped to 2S|pg||
pc|d4|nt|dburn: if North won't have four hearts, then unless he is specifically 4=3=3=3 he will have a minor|pg||
nt|dburn: so Fleisher may (and indeed just did) try to find a fit|pg||
nt|woozle: Fleisher's odds in reopening were good, but we've all been disappointed before|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h9|nt|woozle: 3H has five top losers and issues besides|pg||
pc|hK|nt|woozle: probably no swing, or perhaps 3 imps to EW if he goes down two|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: Kamil bid 1H denying 4, because he hated his hand|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|algraves:  so there is a possible double squeeze for 4|pg||
pc|d9|nt|chorush: Cards are lying very badly for Kamil. He will be hard-pressed to hold this to down 1|pg||
pc|d8|pc|c3|pc|d2|pg||
nt|dinos1: good start|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|nt|gambit: "Somebody said down one is good bridge. Making is perhaps better." (EK) |pg||
pc|sK|nt|ritong: a la kaplan|pg||
nt|woozle: making an overtrick is good bridge|pg||
nt|chorush: Well, he will be doing well if he winds up playing "good bridge":)|pg||
nt|chorush: a trump return woul be best for Ish|pg||
nt|dinos1: 1 more @h lead|pg||
nt|woozle: Ish might be able to ruff a diamond or win a club and lead a third round|pg||
nt|chorush: I think a trump back would lead to "bad bridge" or down 2|pg||
nt|algraves:  not anymore|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|c4|nt|woozle: "two shy?" "no, not shy enough"|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
mc|8|nt|dinos1: +1?|pg||
nt|kit: you all won't believe what happened on the 7@D hand|pg||
nt|harmon: 7dx in OR|pg||
nt|algraves:  ns disaster on the 7@D hand same off the Ace of trumps|pg||
nt|dinos1: what??|pg||
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qx|o32|st||md|2S53HT976DAJ543CQJ,SQ6HKJ5DKT82CAK95,SA974HAQ432D7CT62,SKJT82H8DQ96C8743|sv|e|nt|chorush: now irrelevant whether other table mde 2 or 3|pg||
nt|ritong: last bullet|pg||
nt|poohbear: LOL as if anyone still  playing has any idea where they stand :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: All but Ish just went to restroom|pg||
nt|ritong: things can happen here|pg||
nt|athene: suppose the defence attacked clubs here against 4@H|pg||
nt|ritong: for example NS in 4@h|pg||
nt|athene: now declarer has a pitch for a spade|pg||
nt|barnets: I wrote up the story of one of the most remarkeable appeals ever on my website|pg||
nt|kit: hard to see N-S getting to 4@H|pg||
mb|1C|nt|barnets: you can read it on extraordinary tales |pg||
nt|drewsky: Seems like N-S need at least +300 to at least tiew this match,|pg||
mb|1H|nt|po-s: not to mention making|pg||
mb|1S|nt|mtvesuvius: the heart spots are not good enough to bring in 4@h... not likely they will get there either|pg||
nt|dburn: 1@h - 1@s -4@h not impossible|pg||
nt|chorush: and if they did get there its even harder to see stansby winning the club and not playing a spade|pg||
nt|minimeck: dudo, pero quizas, |pg||
nt|ritong: we are s pectators, aren t we?|pg||
nt|passell: yes pinning stiff 8 of hearts is a big big play|pg||
nt|ritong: so we hope for thrill|pg||
mb|3D|an|fit jump|mb|d|nt|kit: what difference-- still only 6 heart tricks and 1 in each side suit anyway|pg||
nt|athene: fit jump in diamonds bad news for north|pg||
nt|passell: yes|pg||
nt|athene: and @C10xx not exactly pretty holding|pg||
nt|athene: can't see him bidding game|pg||
nt|passell: you are right |pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|nt|ritong: match is over, but only at the table|pg||
nt|barnets: so according to the cuurent score Fleisher is the winner|pg||
nt|ritong: no matter what, areally exciting fight|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
nt|barnets: perhaps by only 3 |pg||
pc|s6|nt|Rafa: podríamos hacerlo en paralelo en bbo|pg||
nt|Rafa: sry priv|pg||
nt|barnets: if 2@C made 3|pg||
pc|s7|nt|chorush: that made no difference Barnet. Martel made 4|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|pg||
nt|barnets: oh tks|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|ritong: please please please:)|pg||
nt|barnets: we cant really discuss the appeal|pg||
nt|barnets: hand |pg||
nt|harmon: but its very appealing:)|pg||
nt|chorush: For specs asking what appeal is, please stop. We don't have the details and couldn't discuss them if we did|pg||
nt|sybarra: AND it is from previous quarter|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hA|nt|barnets: it was board 10 in the closed room thats all|pg||
pc|c4|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|h9|mc|9|nt|barnets: thanks all for watching|pg||
nt|ritong: merci a tous! great show|pg||
nt|barnets: a great match|pg||
nt|harmon: was Adam Kaplan's fault anyway aski him|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: players and director say there's no appeal pending|pg||
nt|sybarra: LOL  |pg||
nt|athene: thanks all|pg||
nt|chorush: Was great match. Thanks to BBO for providing this forum|pg||
nt|ritong: if so,  congratulations to fleisher team|pg||
nt|barnets: congrats to fleisher team|pg||
nt|passell: great match congrats to all|pg||
nt|dinos1: so congr to Fleisher team?|pg||
nt|barnets: and a great fight by Grue|pg||
nt|harmon: congrats to all and to all a goodnight|pg||
nt|ritong: see you all later for further adventures|pg||
nt|uday:  Thanks to all the commentators, the ACBL, and of course the Operators.  Good night, all.|pg||
nt|sybarra: gn Uday @h  and all @HH!|pg||
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qx|c32|st||md|2S53HT976DAJ543CQJ,SQ6HKJ5DKT82CAK95,SA974HAQ432D7CT62,SKJT82H8DQ96C8743|sv|e|nt|woozle: Bakhshi started well, but Ish didn't continue the job|pg||
nt|algraves:  and doubled to lose 2 imps|pg||
nt|algraves:  for grue|pg||
mb|1N|nt|kit: and Stansby was willing to make the unsporting double, picking up 2 IMPs|pg||
mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|kit: And if that is the margin of the match, Cheek will commit suicide|pg||
mb|3H|nt|dburn: South at the other table showed both his suits with a cue bd, and North jumped because of his two good cards in those suits|pg||
nt|ritong: a bit offbaord other room  now, they just lack trump 10 or J to have a good play|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: Ish's double is support for Bakhshi's "suit", no doubt|pg||
nt|dburn: the resulting game was not bad - needed the opener to have a doubleton @sA, or someone to have @sJ10 doubleton|pg||
nt|woozle: Kamil might be able to stop if his style makes a 2S bid meaningful here|pg||
nt|chorush: Fleisher has a plus position on the last board of the set in that they may well go plus.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: Kamil still trying to decifer 2@C bid|pg||
nt|algraves:  yes really imagine you had to double to protect against the same contract|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: well, if he thinks it;s natural, his side will get to some game or other|pg||
nt|woozle: It feels like Grue's 3S was an overbid at the other table, particularly after intervention at this vulnerability|pg||
nt|dburn: but he seems to have worked it out|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|nt|dinos1: he may bid 2@s then accept INV|pg||
nt|woozle: Fleisher headed for a six imp gain here, closing the gap to 5.|pg||
nt|woozle: sorry, 5 imps|pg||
nt|dinos1: 190 = 5|pg||
nt|woozle: so Grue will lead by six at the break|pg||
nt|chorush: I think 5 unlss he makes 4 by some chance|pg||
nt|dburn: errors and omissions excepted, of course - the judiciary may yet have to consider board 10|pg||
nt|dinos1: helping lead|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|dinos1: 10 tricks)|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|woozle: six imps after all. |pg||
nt|algraves:  thats from Alice in Wonderland|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h5|nt|woozle: It's difficult to love a lead from a doubleton jack of trumps...but leading the jack might have saved the position|pg||
pc|h2|pc|s2|pc|h6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c2|nt|dinos1: once i made unsporting X of 7@h with trump ace with a thought: who knows what may happen at the other table. beat them -2 pd having trump K ...|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|dinos1: 6@h was played at the other table))|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|ritong: restart soon|pg||
nt|sybarra: and join us then,  its another nail biter |pg||
nt|chorush: Should be a great finish|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: back soon for 4th quarter|pg||
pc|c4|mc|9|nt|vugraphzfh: longway to go at the other table|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: thx all|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: for what?|pg||
nt|algraves:  well he has 9 tricks|pg||
nt|algraves:  the tenth will be hard to come by|pg||
nt|vugraphzfh: closing, follow at open table.|pg||
nt|algraves:  but he figures it is the last board|pg||
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