vg|2011 Vanderbilt R16,Segment 1 of 4,I,1,16,Monaco,0,Deutsch,0|
rs|1NE=,2HS-1,4SE-1,4SE-1,4SW+1,4SW+1,7CW=,6SW=,2HE+1,1NN-1,3HS=,4HSx=,3NW+3,3NE+2,5DN=,4HWx-1,4HE+1,6HE=,4HW=,4HW+1,4SS=,4SS=,4SE=,4SW=,4HE-2,4SN+1,4HW=,4HW=,4HW+1,4HW=,1NN-1,2SS-2|
pn|Fantoni,Baldursson,Nunes,Jonsson,Kranyak,Zimmermann,Deutsch,Multon|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3ST8HAQJ64DKQ52CK7,SQJ42HK53D973CT96,SA965H82DT84CQ842,SK73HT97DAJ6CAJ53|sv|o|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: http://www.bridgewithdan.com/systems/Fantoni_Nunes.txt|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: trying to catch up: p 1d 1h x 1n all pass|pg||
nt|brolucius: Fantoni is partnering Nunes, of course. |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: players initially sat in the wrong seats. fantoni is south and my connection is still not working right|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|brolucius: No problem, John. I'm sure all will be OK in a shirt while.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Zimmermann himself|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|d3|nt|brolucius: ..short..|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3ST8HAQJ64DKQ52CK7,SQJ42HK53D973CT96,SA965H82DT84CQ842,SK73HT97DAJ6CAJ53|sv|o|nt|sybarra2: by email or ???  |pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|peachy: Hello everyone|pg||
mb|2D|nt|peachy: Defense has entry even if club is ducjed so this wont make, but likely push, unless S gets to be declarer|pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-32  for half-time scores in all 16 matches|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|peachy: 4H would be a better contract|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|peachy: Controlrich and nice suit, I prefer 1H opening and so do the many kibitzers who messages about it|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h6|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: welcome to the round of 16 in the Vanderbilt from Louisville|pg||
nt|harmon: They setting up a trump promotion good d|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c3|nt|harmon: pesky 5 of hts|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|h3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hQ|mc|7|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4SHAJ7652DAK4CT982,SAK54H8DQJ7632CJ4,SQ982HQ4D85CQ7653,SJT763HKT93DT9CAK|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|Vugraphzfd: not every bid/card I enter is getting through - not able to recover the line of play on board 1 after reconnecting halfway through.  sorry all.  caught up now|pg||
mb|3H!|an|at least INV|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Fantoni and Nunes play that all one-level openings in a suit are 14+ and forcing. The 10-13 hands are covered by two-level openings.|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
nt|brolucius: 1NT is weak, 12-14. Anyway, back to this deal. 3@H shows a strong raise in spades.|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg||
nt|brolucius: East signs off and West advances anyway. (An immediate 4@S by West would have been pre-emptive.)|pg||
pc|s3|pc|h2|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d9|nt|Vugraphzfd: fantoni folds his hand and leans forward, rubbing his eyes|pg||
nt|brolucius: The best VG operators give us extra table-side info, so we can imagine the scene.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: jonsson uses the break to finally record board 1 in his private score|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes leaning back arms crossed...|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: now fingering @HA|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|s4|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|d4|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4SHAJ7652DAK4CT982,SAK54H8DQJ7632CJ4,SQ982HQ4D85CQ7653,SJT763HKT93DT9CAK|sv|n|mb|1S|nt|Walddk4: Son and father E-W, Justin and Hemant|pg||
mb|2H|nt|harmon: as kibs pointed out he couldve ruffed with the 4 and not wasted the 6|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|Walddk4: Strul was leading by 72-26 after the first quarter. Remarkable comeback by Lall in the second|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but still only 7 of top [current] 16 seeds leading at the half|pg||
nt|jbennet: agree fully and the  1 NT opening got what it deserved with 2 open suits and no tenaces what soever  opening 1 NT will most often only achieve a) confirming alfa male status. and ...|pg||
nt|jbennet: b) lose IMP:s for its time. |pg||
nt|harmon: this 1 or 2 down|pg||
nt|harmon: also as kibs pointed out he runs outta trumps to lol|pg||
nt|harmon: sEE i NEED ALL DE HELP i CAN GET|pg||
nt|harmon: oops sorry for capps|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other room is up now -- it can be watched simultaneously using http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
nt|harmon: I type like doo doo|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|nt|favallu: vere 2 o 3 manitas al brogeland y a la camita|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s3|pc|h2|mc|9|nt|ahollan1: EW Convention Card from 2008 Mind Sports:  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2008MindSportGamesBeijing/Open/France/multon-zimmerman.pdf|pg||
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qx|o3|st||md|1S732HK985DAKT3C76,SAQ954HAQJ6DJ8CK8,ST8HT72DQ9654CQ32,SKJ6H43D72CAJT954|sv|e|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Connection test|pg||
nt|brolucius: Right. All is OK again.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: passed.  connection here seems fine too|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: did not get full explanation of 1@H but "could be long minor"|pg||
nt|brolucius: I do not have the Icelandic system card up. Someone told me they play Ice Precision. Ah yes...|pg||
mb|2H!|nt|Vugraphzfd: jonsson makes motions with his finger like he's countin relay steps|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S!|nt|brolucius: If they end anywhere except 4@S, we will all be amazed.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: helpful icelandic kib says "no 5card major no singleton GF"|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/iceland/jonsson-baldursson.pdf|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes and jonsson sharing a laugh|pg||
mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|brolucius: You or I would bid 4@S in two seconds and leave our brains fresh for the play.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: screens are in use this round.  8 tables in this room and 8 down the hall|pg||
mb|4S|nt|brolucius: But Baldurrson and Jonsson have double-sized brains, so it causes them no problem.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: different boards for every match|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes plops out explanation pad but jonsson whispering his answers - can't overhear everything clearly|pg||
nt|brolucius: Fantoni had the chance to make a lead-directing double of 3@D but decided not to.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: go to www.bridgewinners.com for scores - I am not up to date|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes asking when baldursson would relay with 1S and when he would bid something else|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: trying to draw inferences about closed hand before leading|pg||
pc|d4|nt|brolucius: You can see why some people think that complex systems are bad for the game, but of course they have to be allowed at this level.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: after leading asks: and 1C, is that strong?  jonsson: 16+|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg||
nt|brolucius: The cards lie well for declarer, who should not be taxed.|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|s6|nt|brolucius: Fantoni forces declarer to take an early view in the heart suit, in case he had some alternative line of play to try first. |pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cK|mc|11|pg||
qx|c3|st||md|1S732HK985DAKT3C76,SAQ954HAQJ6DJ8CK8,ST8HT72DQ9654CQ32,SKJ6H43D72CAJT954|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: the other room is visible via http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Welcome to John Swanson|pg||
mb|1S|nt|swanson: Hi all.|pg||
nt|harmon: Uh oh Al is here!!!:)   hi Al|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Hiya Harmon -- abandon all hope|pg||
mb|2N!|an|3 spades, 11-14|nt|ahollan1: 2N covers all ranges of @S raises|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D Precision, 2+|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: especially when i'm looking at the wrong convention card|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|harmon: I leave system to Al|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: was 3 spades with 11-14|pg||
nt|harmon: overtricks all on lead|pg||
pc|d5|nt|harmon: good lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: looking at the running score, you'd think overtricks are critical  --  but this is a 64 board match, so we won't worry about them for a while|pg||
pc|d2|nt|Walddk4: Can endplay West if he reads it|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW  carding  upside-down count & attitued    NS  upside-down attitude, Standard count|pg||
nt|Walddk4: and make|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dA|nt|henryb:  this appears to have six losers, but I think the defense will have difficulty collecting all their tricks. West will probably get end played at some point|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@S might just be puppet to 2N    in 2nd set Lauria-Versace used it to show BAL hand OR 5+@H|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
nt|swanson: Not much hope for the defense here.  |pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS system summary from 2010 trials says  "standard count, attitude, and suit-preference....we signal when we feel it will help the defence"|pg||
pc|s5|nt|swanson: Declarer needs the layout to be as it is to make.|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h4|nt|Walddk4: Hemant did well not to lead a top club, but it's not enough|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: CC for EW from 2009 Bermuda Bowl  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/brazil/campos-villasboas.pdf|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|harmon: playing a "known" card|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|sJ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|c4|nt|friggi: hi all|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: did not play the king -- sorry|pg||
mc|11|nt|harmon: Hi F|pg||
nt|ahollan1: scores from other matches get posted at the end of each 16 board segment on http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Multon pointing out the Kranyak's ruffing with the 6 on the first hand lost the setting trick|pg||
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qx|o4|st||md|2S965H982DKJ952C85,SAQ842HATDACKT643,S73HKJ763DQ764CJ9,SKJTHQ54DT83CAQ72|sv|b|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|brolucius: You can see what the bidding was at the other table by putting your cursor on the Closed Room result. At the moment we do not have it for this particular board.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: deep sigh from nunes|pg||
mb|1H!|nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes: same? jonsson: same, both laugh|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes: ok, +1, next!|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: We will have another, equally enjoyable, relay auction to watch.|pg||
mb|2N!|nt|brolucius: There is a heart loser if spades are trumps, so they will hope to end in clubs.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: if one of the ice relay experts could translate, it would be more enjoyable for the masses|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: That will allow two heart discards from the East hand on West's spades.|pg||
mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|Vugraphzfd: baldurrson's pad shows jonssons exact shape|pg||
nt|brolucius: Neither I, nor my wife, nor our cat are familiar with the Ice relay system - unfortunately.|pg||
nt|brolucius: One can only sit back and admire it, if they do end in 7@C.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: and 11+ HCP|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|brolucius: Relay bids tend to be the next available bid, so you can see that West's bids are all relays, after the strong 1@C.|pg||
nt|brolucius: There is a about a 2% chance that an auction of this type does not end in 7@C. |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: I am in the camp that finding good slams is good for the game, even if the method is somewhat opaque|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: The other table has stopped in 6@S, I am told.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: baldursson thinking, scratching  his forehead|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Magnus Magnusson|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hurray!!!|pg||
nt|iceking: hehe i used to play this system 10 years ago. But today i dont remember any of it:)|pg||
nt|brolucius: You liar! Of course you can explain all these relay bids.|pg||
nt|iceking: What is going on though is Baldursson is asking|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes now reading the daily bulletin|pg||
nt|brolucius: Does that explain the system?|pg||
nt|iceking: Jonsson first shows bal hand GF no 5card major no stiff |pg||
nt|iceking: then his shape-controls-location of controls-locations of Q in the end|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: for everyone not in louisville: www.acbl.org/nabc will get you to the daily bulletins|pg||
nt|brolucius: On the face of it, this should be exactly the right type of deal for a relay system. But the long pause is worrying - for Icelandic fans.|pg||
nt|iceking: so in the end Baldursson will know Jonsson has 3controls-control in Black suits and @H Q and @C Q|pg||
nt|brolucius: 'Either the connection has failed or... perhaps they are playing a relay system.'|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: baldursson briefly makes motions with his hand as if counting|pg||
mb|4S!|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes is out of green cards and taps the tray|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5D!|nt|Walddk2: Good evening to Hedy Grey|pg||
nt|hedyg: good evening :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: 3334, 11-12, 3 controls|pg||
nt|brolucius: From West's point of view, the @SJ is a more important card than the @HQ.|pg||
mb|p|mb|5H!|mb|p|mb|5S!|nt|hedyg: to watch multiple tables: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|iceking: 3@D was 3334 shape |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: no diamond control|pg||
nt|iceking: 3nt was 3 controls|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: jonsson placing his pen across the pad so I can't read everything|pg||
mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|nt|iceking: 4@H control in @C not control in @D|pg||
nt|brolucius: We must all cheer when they bid 7@C.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: has also shown @CQ and denied @DQ|pg||
nt|brolucius: Magnus is rescuing me from 10 messages a minute asking me to explain the bidding...|pg||
mb|7C|mb|p|nt|iceking: yes he knows all now so 7@C coming up|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: i am so glad Magnus is here :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: They did. Well, that is very well done. |pg||
nt|iceking: iam not i really dont remember this system anymore even i played it for 3 years:)|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c5|nt|brolucius: You were great, Magnus. Many thanks!|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2S965H982DKJ952C85,SAQ842HATDACKT643,S73HKJ763DQ764CJ9,SKJTHQ54DT83CAQ72|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfc: not optimal defense on last hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2007BermudaBowlShanghai/bermuda-bowl/Norway/saelensminde-brogeland.pdf|pg||
nt|swanson: Takeout doubles need a bit more definition than normal against a short minor opening - the doubler might not be short in the opened suit.|pg||
nt|Walddk4: They changed a few things since 2007|pg||
nt|ahollan1: is this 1@S or 1@C opener for Zimmermann?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: there are still a few who open 1@C with 55 blacks -- when strong enough to jump shift on 2nd round|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: NS from 2010 European  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/duboin-sementa.pdf|pg||
nt|harmon: 7c|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|friggi: this one fits the decription|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other side of the spectrum -- opening 1@C/@D DENIES 5@H/@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk4: But they did not play much together since|pg||
mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: 2@C=11-16 HCP, 6+@C|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Q3 results at http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-32|pg||
nt|harmon: I dont agree clubs are not good enuff|pg||
nt|harmon: change ace of d for club then yes|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: last announcement:  other room is visible via http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
mb|4D|nt|harmon: 4d probably kc|pg||
nt|harmon: in clubs I hope|pg||
nt|ahollan1: I agree Harmon -- this isn't right hand even if system allows|pg||
nt|ahollan1: kool option would be 4@D asks KC in BOTH suits|pg||
nt|harmon: it might|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 2n was again 11-14 with 3 spades -- i can't read what 4D is|pg||
mb|d|nt|ahollan1: sorry 11-15|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2N max, not 4@H/@S|pg||
nt|Walddk4: For instance, they now play transfer responses to 1@C. They did not in 2007|pg||
mb|r|nt|harmon: not a good leaner Joe??|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: both pairs use upside-down count & attitude|pg||
mb|4S|nt|dburn: they may well do, but was this really the auction?|pg||
mb|p|mb|6S|nt|swanson: This is one of those hand where you want to get the king of the dangerous suit on opening lead - tough to develope a system for that.|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Horrible as defender to see that spade combination in dummy|pg||
nt|Walddk4: We have all been there|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Seems a normal line to win and play a club to the ace and another|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: declarer long pause|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer is not certain how to avoid losing a trick in each suit plus a ruff.  If he plays trumps early his only certain entry to dummy is gone.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: certainly not playing too quickly at trick 1|pg||
nt|ahollan1: random guess   4@D=denial cue   slam interest but NO @D card|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|harmon: hard to recover from 2n|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: natural auction works better here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the treatment does seem to eat up a lot of space when holding only 3-fit|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 4@D showed 4 clubs and a certain number of key cards -- not sure of the definition of key card here|pg||
nt|harmon: then 6s was a lazy bid|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: that sounds like a system that might have got them to the grand|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|nt|ahollan1: it is puzzling, isn't it David|pg||
nt|dburn: 3@d all pass I could understand|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ahhhh   4@D SHOWING key cards|pg||
pc|s2|nt|swanson: Sorry - thought it was passed out in 3@C.|pg||
pc|s3|nt|tlc: that cant be right..|pg||
nt|dburn: and was this really the play?|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: I expected 3@C to end auction too John  --  guess it becomes constructive after 2@D   for THIS pair|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Saælensminde probably winning the king now|pg||
nt|tlc: 2D is inv or better and with 15, hard to turn down invite|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Then he has 96 still|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|sA|pc|d6|pg||
nt|Walddk4: well guessed|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: sorry, figity mouse here, moves by itself|pg||
nt|Walddk4: np|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that's the ghost of terence reese|pg||
nt|dburn: you're not supposed to play the ten with this suit, and surely Villas-Boas knows it|pg||
pc|s4|nt|Walddk4: Two winning lines. He can set up clubs and rely on the heart finesse, or he can play a spade first|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the Icelanders are relaying  7th round of bidding and they're only at 4@H right now|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|sQ|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h7|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
pc|cA|nt|Walddk4: Will need the heart finesse no matter what|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg||
mc|12|nt|Vugraphzfc: some discussion in French -- Multon unhappy|pg||
nt|harmon: is vous ettes mal a la tete included :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: justified FEELINGS it was unimpressive auction|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: KCs here was AKQ of both black suits and two red aces -- so 3 KCs here|pg||
nt|harmon: 4d turned out great I think 6s was lazy as i said before|pg||
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qx|o5|st||md|3SKQ76H7642DJ9CQ85,SA83HAQJ9D3CJ9764,SJ95H53DAQ652CAT3,ST42HKT8DKT874CK2|sv|n|nt|iceking: This board ofcourse shows the huge advantage playing relay system |pg||
nt|brolucius: At least we all have an idea how complicated these relay systems are. I would never play one in a million years (even when my brain was still fully functional). |pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 1@s-2@c might work too :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|iceking: i would say though this system is less compicated then Nyström-Bertheau play|pg||
mb|2D!|an|short !D|nt|brolucius: Enough!|pg||
mb|d|an|"I think it's diamonds"|nt|iceking: typical prec 2@D opening-shows short @D opening values 10-15hcp|pg||
nt|hedyg: this is not what their CC says :(|pg||
nt|brolucius: The 2@D opening, showing short diamonds, was part of the original Precision Club system - invented by CC Wei.|pg||
mb|2H|nt|iceking: i dont think they can play there full system in usa|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: It was full enough on the last deal.|pg||
pc|h2|nt|hedyg: the CC says 2@d multi|pg||
nt|iceking: not normal multi|pg||
nt|iceking: like 5card major 5card minor i think|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg||
nt|iceking: normally so they have to change it playing in USA|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is generally recommended to lead a trump against auctions starting with a 2@D (short diamonds) auction.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fantoni and baldursson have trick 1 to NS; nunes and jonsson to EW|pg||
nt|hedyg: spec suggests they play multi in first 3 seats and short @D in 4th|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg||
nt|iceking: that could be also|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|hK|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|hedyg: Deutsch opened the N hand|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg||
mc|9|nt|brolucius: By ducking the first round of spades, declarer might have been able to break the defensive link in that suit, and discard a spade. (Not here)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: "pull trumps, give you 2 tricks"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes declares a break and gets a glass of water|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: chatting with fulvio in italian|pg||
nt|brolucius: Most players would open the North hand, but it may not fit well with the 1@D=14+ system. They would have to open 2@D, I dare say.|pg||
nt|iceking: his option would be to open 12-14nt|pg||
nt|brolucius: Nunes did not like to stretch to a 12-14 1NT when vulnerable against not.|pg||
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qx|c5|st||md|3SKQ76H7642DJ9CQ85,SA83HAQJ9D3CJ9764,SJ95H53DAQ652CAT3,ST42HKT8DKT874CK2|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: this time for sure|pg||
mb|1D|nt|tlc: hands like that get your adrenelin going..|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i think Multon agrees with you Harmon|pg||
mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: 2@C="see previous board"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: indeed - perfect hand for the methods|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: announced in other room during relay auction      Nunes is out of green cards|pg||
nt|harmon: unlikey 2c over 1s unless EXTREMELY agressive|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: this is the final set of the Round of 32 -- winners play tomorrow behind screens, losers are out of the event|pg||
nt|harmon: at other table I mean|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: NS play 2/1 Almost GF -- don't expect too many alerts|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: still talking with "animation" about last hand|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: both pairs standard carding|pg||
pc|sK|nt|harmon: Im told they bid grand at other table|pg||
nt|harmon: well done|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Multon 2nd lead treats @S10 as an honor|pg||
pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: :)  but not even close to 1@C opener [which dad's was on previous board]|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Duboin really has problem --  hate to pass, fear 3@D from Sementa|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yep -- i was just counting the   of bids :)|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: no, was 4th best as announced|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the play was MUCH faster than the bidding|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: 2N scramble makes DBL much more reasonable|pg||
pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: how many vote for 2nd DBL from Boye??|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: i.e.  3@D would then probably [keyword] show 6|pg||
pc|hA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|h7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @D4 should help Zim find @C shift |pg||
nt|harmon: If guess well rise with ace of clubs for endplay|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s2|nt|jfaria:  2 swings|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg||
nt|harmon: As some tirkish trucker:) pointed out needed a club shift after ht queen|pg||
nt|harmon: turkish too|pg||
pc|d9|pc|c4|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg||
nt|harmon: down now again too|pg||
pc|s7|pc|c6|mc|6|pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4SAT53HQJT764DQC43,S8HK853DKJ63CAJ82,SQJ6HA92D8752CKQ6,SK9742HDAT94CT975|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|iceking:  is this a 2@H opening|pg||
nt|hedyg: hand was not worth 12|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|brolucius: 2@D would show an unbalanced hand, 10-13, so that was not an option.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: reflexively alerting the icelandic bids but 1S was natural|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|nt|iceking: ok been told they cant open 2@H with 4card @S suit|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|an|takeout|nt|hedyg: lol John|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|an|scrambling|mb|3C|nt|brolucius: It would rarely be profitable to double for penalties under the defenders' long suit, so such doubles are played for take-out. It is the most convenient way of keeping the bidding ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: alive.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes asks for some explanation that I can't read|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: fulvio rolling his head, asks for explanation as well|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: so 3@c must be a cuebid then|pg||
nt|hedyg: i mean as far is Fantoni is concerned|pg||
nt|brolucius: He did pass 2@H, so this must be puzzling South as well.|pg||
nt|iceking: maybe Fantoni should gamble on 4@H|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes bid the 3C as some kind of lead directing raise|pg||
pc|s8|nt|brolucius: Yes, that seems more likely.|pg||
nt|iceking: yes so probably has weak @D so hand probably fits very well|pg||
nt|hedyg: not puzzling since he was a ph when he bid 2@H, they tend not to hang their partner for overcalling|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: baldurssons pad said "SCRAMBLING" for 2NT, jonssons said 4-3 or 44 minors|pg||
nt|brolucius: I meant that it would have been puzzling if 3@C was then a game-try (since he had passed 2@H).|pg||
nt|iceking: delay game-try bid|pg||
nt|iceking: it happens|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: baldursson reading CC and asking when fantoni would open 2@H|pg||
nt|Walddk2: E-W Bermuda Bowl champions 1991, but not as partners. They are also in the Icelandic team for this year's BB in the Netherlands. And so is Magnus with his partner Sigurbjörn. We ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: wish them good luck!|pg||
nt|hedyg: surely 3@c was not gametry, just fit and force in @c|pg||
nt|iceking: finally after 20 years Iceland can defend there BB title:)|pg||
nt|brolucius: No doubt there are statues of the winning 1991 team all over Iceland. Such an achievement for a tiny country.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: six boards in I wonder if I should be referring to the icelanders by their "surnames" or their first names|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg||
pc|hA|nt|hedyg: whatever is shorter!|pg||
pc|s4|pc|h4|nt|hedyg: ( usually their first names)|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|iceking: we use first names in iceland |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Thorlakur    Jon      (Jon is shorter, indeed)|pg||
nt|hedyg: and we know why ;p|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: when I asked - when they initially sat in the wrong seats...|pg||
pc|h2|nt|brolucius: Long names and long auctions.|pg||
pc|c7|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: they introduced themselves by their last names|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|nt|brolucius: The better players usually have short names, as Roland and I have often agreed.|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|s6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|nt|brolucius: ... and Hedy.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes   Fu  and Aa|pg||
mc|9|nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
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qx|c6|st||md|4SAT53HQJT764DQC43,S8HK853DKJ63CAJ82,SQJ6HA92D8752CKQ6,SK9742HDAT94CT975|sv|e|nt|harmon: another chance missed|pg||
nt|harmon: small swing tho|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: while you contemplate that -- nay sayers should note that the 1st board was PUSH at 3N-2|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Good evening to David Burn|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.confsudbridge.org/ranking/rsmd.aspx?tipo=RSML  shows how highly placed Campos team players rank in Zone 3 [South America]|pg||
mb|1S|nt|dburn: hello|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|nt|harmon: 3h makes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@D from Deutsch now?|pg||
mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: spoiler alert    East is  1|pg||
mb|4D|nt|ahollan1: wow - 3@H seems like an underbid, he really doesn't like 4333 and slow @S cards|pg||
mb|4H|mb|d|nt|swanson: A second double would have been successful, 3@H will likely make N-S.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|nt|jfaria:  1 @d from W would need a more tuuf bidding for N/S I guess :)|pg||
nt|harmon: d lead best|pg||
nt|ahollan1: is there a way to go down after the "automatic" @S lead?|pg||
nt|harmon: automatic??? imho horrible lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i wouldn't say horrible -- but quote marks indicate doubt :)|pg||
nt|harmon: lol |pg||
nt|ahollan1: with @HKxxx starting tap was definitely an option|pg||
nt|ahollan1: assuming Multon does NOT cover @Squack -- Kranyak needs line to take care of 4th round @S loser|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @CA onside helps - but transportation a problem|pg||
nt|harmon: I dont think hell put up the Q or J|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s7|nt|harmon: wants to lead clubs|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i missed that :(|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|Walddk2: Upside-down attitude for N-S, so ducking won't help|pg||
nt|dburn: sensible to stop in 2@h here, but they may have needed to stop in one|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|nt|harmon: hts first 1st get news|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|harmon: then club|pg||
pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: if he had -- i think @D play would work -- if Multon gives @S ruff it is loser on loser and Zim scores natural trump trick|pg||
nt|harmon: then scissors with D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: different route to same position -- i just missed the 1st round duck from dummy|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|nt|dburn: trying to stop club ruffs in dummy, of course - little does he know|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|s2|nt|harmon: well done J|pg||
pc|s3|pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: Fantonin in 3@H   so Monaco on the board with nice pickup|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
mc|10|nt|Walddk2: http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-32  for half-time scores in all 16 matches|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so sorry -- Deutsch another nice pickup|pg||
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qx|o7|st||md|1SQ74HKT72D75CJ952,SA932H96DKJ932CKT,SJT86HJ54DA864C84,SK5HAQ83DQTCAQ763|sv|b|nt|iceking: great result for Deutch in closed room 4@H dbl making 590|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|an|unbalanced|nt|brolucius: kranyak boldly bid a fourth heart when North found a raise (after a similar start to the auction).|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C!|an|GF|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|brolucius: I was a bit surprised that Nunes did not raise, with his values opposite a vulnerable 2@H bid. South was a passed hand, yes, but he must have good playing values to enter on the ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: second round.|pg||
nt|iceking: none vul 2@H bid actually|pg||
nt|brolucius: Sory, non-vulnerable. But, even so.|pg||
nt|iceking: yes it was passive|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: chatter in the hallway; director closes the doors.  baldursson and fantoni discussing.  "4 spades 5 diamonds nothing special"|pg||
nt|brolucius: He could not really expect to buy it in 2@H.|pg||
nt|twcho: tks for the info|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2NT showing 5 4 2 2 i guess|pg||
mb|3C|nt|iceking: or 4-1-5-3|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: no, no singleton|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: will continue to provide whatever details I can read or overhear (as time permits)|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2NT surely denies a singleton|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: In standard systems, East would respond 2@C instead of 1@H. The general rule is to bid your longest suit first when you are worth at least two bids.|pg||
nt|iceking: only matters of overtricks here|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@c seems to be a natural bid in their system , maybe denies a major|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: baldurssons pad says 4-6, 4-5, or 5-5 for jonssons sequence|pg||
nt|brolucius: 1@D - 2@C - 2@D - 2@H (very economical).|pg||
pc|c4|nt|iceking: so 12 tricks it is|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: screen quickly raised and lowered again, more discussions by S/W.  "showed 2 hearts"|pg||
nt|hedyg: Slawinski lead|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
nt|hedyg: small from even without honour or odd with honour|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dT|nt|Vugraphzfd: hmm thats S7 from fulvio|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: d3 from declarer and a long pause from nunes|pg||
nt|iceking: not expensive time to revoke here|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: can't peek into the hands to see what is awry|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not a leading method to use at home. In fact not a leading method to use unless you are either a super-expert or a madman.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: yes, he has revoked so I can't reproduce , D5 still in his hand|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes ducked.  club to 10 played and 6 claimed|pg||
nt|iceking: will not matter much as decl has 12 top tricks here|pg||
mc|12|nt|Vugraphzfd: discussion in italian,  baldursson: "please speak english"|pg||
nt|hedyg: except on a @H lead|pg||
nt|iceking: Tell Fantoni to tell Baldursson he could learn Italian:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes did not know jonsson's hearts could not be longer than his clubs, thought clubs were secondary|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: director called|pg||
nt|hedyg: waving of hands etc not as good in English|pg||
nt|iceking: waste of time call director here |pg||
nt|iceking: ew bidding is as natural as it can be he just made a bad lead|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes lets baldurrson see his hand!|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: will he deduce the revoke now?|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is not natural to bid the four-card hearts first on a strong hand.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: "I thought you had 4-2 in clubs not 5-2"|pg||
nt|iceking: ok good point|pg||
nt|brolucius: Fantoni will claim that he would not have revoked if the bidding had been explained properly.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: "and you revoked when I played diamonds?"|pg||
nt|iceking: still i dont like it call the dirctor on minor things like this |pg||
nt|hedyg: much better to call the director|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: "I had one diamond", nunes:" no you had 2"|pg||
nt|iceking: maybe after they call the directo the ruleing will be 3nt+4 becouse of the revoke:)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: "he did not explain that he had 4+ @H and 5+ C, I think that he must tell me"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: ACBL generally treats canape sequences as alertable|pg||
nt|hedyg: just call the director for 1 imp|pg||
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qx|c7|st||md|1SQ74HKT72D75CJ952,SA932H96DKJ932CKT,SJT86HJ54DA864C84,SK5HAQ83DQTCAQ763|sv|b|nt|harmon: ok Al no more vodka for you:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: only hearty Zin|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and only to teeth an interesting color|pg||
nt|harmon: sorta boring 3n here|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: still, not a bad result for Campos - Villas-Boas would probably have passed out 2@s anyway|pg||
mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: too right|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|dburn: really?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: really?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry David got there first|pg||
nt|swanson: Not enough spade length for East to open.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|harmon: Im analysing good you would be proud|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Duboin 2N would have been INV -- i wonder how that differs from 2@H|pg||
mb|2N|nt|harmon: still cant type to right window lol|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|jfaria:  strange... with N hand I would be happy to transfer and pray :)|pg||
nt|dburn: perhaps he asked his partner whether he had any spades, and then decided to open anyway|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4th seat 1N=15-17  so  Justin showing 12-14  [probably WOULD pass with only 11]|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: mopping of Brazilian brow - East could not have been too keen on the way things were going|pg||
nt|harmon: rpobably lead a spade here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @D9 makes slam sooooo close    but i think best is 6@D EAST|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: kranyak asking questions quietly on his side of the screen|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other room also in 3N -- with Jonsson responding 1@H |pg||
nt|harmon: thats a strAnge response|pg||
nt|ahollan1: establishing game force with 2@C has a lot going for it -- especially when you define opener's rebids|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|d3|nt|Vugraphzfc: Multon asking about clubs 3-3 or a squeeze|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2SK9652HJDA4CK9863,SQJT74HKQT53DJ9CJ,SA8H8DKQ76532CA72,S3HA97642DT8CQT54|sv|o|nt|iceking: things are heating up at least|pg||
nt|brolucius: Losing 25-1 is better than 25-0.|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: i can understand though that Nunes would have led @cs know dummy had 5 of them|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|2H|nt|brolucius: 1@D 14+ and forcing.|pg||
nt|hedyg: would not have*|pg||
mb|2S|nt|iceking: looks rather natural to me East should have 5@C bidding 3@C there|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: baldursson asks forcing? and fulvio nods yes|pg||
mb|4H|mb|5D|mb|p|nt|hedyg: 1@D= 4+|pg||
nt|iceking: nice bid from Nunes here|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|brolucius: Yes, excellent. He was not put off by the tiny cards accompanying his K-Q.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|nt|iceking: also good pass from Fantoni|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|iceking: 7imp gain well deserved|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: jonsson studying the spots before turning the trick|pg||
nt|brolucius: I think South's pass was clear. He could not be certain why North had bid 5@D. Might have been two-way, when expecting 4@H to make.|pg||
nt|iceking: probably they play fast arrival here, so 5@D direct doesnt show that strong hand|pg||
pc|d8|nt|brolucius: The play yesterday was nearly twice as fast as this. |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: clock shows 71 to complete this set of 16|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h4|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|d3|pc|h2|pg||
mc|11|nt|hedyg: on the board!|pg||
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qx|c8|st||md|2SK9652HJDA4CK9863,SQJT74HKQT53DJ9CJ,SA8H8DKQ76532CA72,S3HA97642DT8CQT54|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Reminds me of the Danish player who passed @SAKQJ109xxx in second seat after pass to his right; and it went all pass. Afterwards he asked his partner if he did not have a light ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: opening in 4th. "I had", he replied, "but I had a singleton spade"|pg||
mb|2H|nt|dburn: but this is a very good result for Helgemo and Helness|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: majors (NV) I think|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H=6-10 HCP  4+@H & 4+@S|pg||
nt|harmon: par here is 5hX -2|pg||
mb|3D|mb|4H|nt|harmon: 4n maybe|pg||
mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 1st/2nd seat not vul  1N=11-13|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2 or 3?|pg||
nt|harmon: guess not|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW use that 2@H bid only NV    when Vul  2@H = 5+@H & 4+@C/@D|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yes, different according to vul|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: that was then and this is now... down two is customary, and down three undoubled is almost a triumph|pg||
mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d8|nt|harmon: instead of par monaco scored a birdie|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
nt|dburn: tricky, this|pg||
pc|d4|nt|dburn: since 4@h is down on the normal diamond lead from South|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|dburn: and not at all clear what declarer's best shot it|pg||
nt|ahollan1: spot card leads against NT presumably ATTITUDE |pg||
nt|ahollan1: might have selected @S3 instead of @S5 to prevent Sementa from trying to find help anywhere else  |pg||
nt|dburn: he could have succeeded by winning the first spade, or he could have looked very silly by so doing|pg||
nt|ahollan1: of course he knows that holding 13 HCP|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or Deutsch bogey -- hit into the trap    [oy - sorry about that]|pg||
pc|cA|nt|swanson: Declarer can establish a club for a diamond discard, but no quick entry to use it.|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|ritong: he has a throw in plan|pg||
nt|dburn: doubtless involving a towel|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right Henri -- that's another option that doesn't work|pg||
nt|ritong: unless brogeland cooperates|pg||
nt|ritong: highly doubtful|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|dburn: now, though, if North shifts to a club...|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: i'm ashamed to admit -- i don't remember if Brogeland won Bermuda Bowl with this or a different partner|pg||
mc|9|nt|harmon: yes but they will bid 5hts so shd be -5 imps|pg||
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qx|o9|st||md|3SKQ75HJDJT863CT87,SJ982HQ98D975CAKJ,ST64H765DA42C9432,SA3HAKT432DKQCQ65|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfd: screens in play today which does slow things down|pg||
nt|iceking: another 1@C-1@H hand coming up|pg||
nt|brolucius: Let's hope so.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: and the NS unfamiliarity with EW systems also slows things down, lots of whispered discussions|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|brolucius: Other room in 6@H, I am told.|pg||
mb|1N!|an|4+4+ !S/!D or !H/!C|nt|hedyg: that will be -1|pg||
mb|d|an|5+ BAL|nt|brolucius: Not if Fantoni revokes again.|pg||
mb|2C|nt|iceking: 1nt some kind of crash here|pg||
mb|2H|nt|iceking: pointed or rounded |pg||
mb|p|nt|iceking: just guessing though |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: will not know ruling on board 7 for some time|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Double would be two of the same color, 1@D two of same rank.|pg||
nt|brolucius: You were right. I have their card up.|pg||
nt|brolucius: 6@H one down at the other table, as it was clearly going to be. |pg||
pc|dJ|nt|iceking: so 1nt shows @H/@C or @S/@D|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@c must be bid your longer suit|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes: "I hope he had clubs now! maybe"|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|nt|hedyg: is he smiling?|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg||
nt|iceking: and next hand|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: yes, nunes hsa been joking|pg||
pc|h2|pc|d6|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h6|nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: "and I claim losing a spade trick"|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SKQ75HJDJT863CT87,SJ982HQ98D975CAKJ,ST64H765DA42C9432,SA3HAKT432DKQCQ65|sv|e|nt|jfaria:  Covering J@s cant be a winner|pg||
nt|dburn: ...then, declarer will rue what he did, and wonder afterwards whether he was right in percentage terms|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: this set 23-2 for Strul|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@D maybe??   surely if North was Australian|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: they weren't - this was not a good deal for their methods - Helgemo and Helness were able to judge the auction very well|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we need new saying now that cigars are bad for you|pg||
mb|2N|nt|ahollan1: there's that 1M-2N bid again|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: we can only hope to get explanation of 3@C|pg||
nt|harmon: dont think seymon thinking of bidding:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|nt|ahollan1: can they diagnose the @C duplication?|pg||
nt|harmon: slam cant be good unless absolutely magic hand  xxxx Qxx Axx AJ10|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on  8  Fantunes bought the hand in 5@D  - after West Passed and EAST jump overcall of 2@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|tlc: Curious in std Lall what 2N over 2@h would have been...max with 3 trumps?|pg||
nt|dburn: not sure the defenders can actually beat this - declarer can establish spades, and then play diamonds|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Neat hand. Diamonds are frozen for the defence|pg||
nt|tlc: however west can rise with the spade K on the first lead and cause a problem|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer might well judge to make this, expecting hearts 3-1 offside.  Establishes spades before trying to ruff diamonds.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and if declarer ducks -- no convenient @H return from East|pg||
mb|4D|nt|ahollan1: does/should  West play @SK 1st round of the suit?|pg||
nt|harmon: so 8 to Monaco|pg||
nt|ahollan1: over move @Sx to @C|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|nt|dburn: no matter - the threat of the established spades in dummy is enough|pg||
nt|ahollan1: looks like best defense = down 2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: over??  |pg||
nt|harmon: that too|pg||
nt|harmon: Multon shd sign off here|pg||
mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|harmon: wrong again|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: right  you should have said Multon NEEDS to sign off|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: screen down and Deutsch asking questions|pg||
nt|ahollan1: South guards @S & @D -- but no transportation for squeeze|pg||
nt|harmon: actually without spade return squeeze works|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: King of spades lead would have simplified things|pg||
nt|ahollan1: mea culp ---  @S return breaks up squeeze|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: hard to imagine EW doing better than that if declaring|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pg||
pc|hA|nt|dburn: indeed, and that's a very good result for Campos|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|nt|ritong: brogeland wonders what is this @s 7|pg||
nt|ritong: maybe, after all, @ss are not 4/2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: denies holding the 9|pg||
nt|ritong: despite the brave reopening|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe it is upside-down count, just as the four was|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ritong: justin is supposed to hold 4, mind you|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: hang on -- i don't think it matters even if specs telling me @S required|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ritong: why would he contribute the 7 with J753 was boye's question imho|pg||
nt|dburn: doubtless he would not|pg||
nt|ritong: thus @ss break|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does the contract have any chance if @S4-2?   now that @SK onside|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|dburn: not sure where West found his second double from, and some might have preferred 2@h to his first double|pg||
nt|ahollan1: David -- is your FIRST bid DBL or 2@H?|pg||
nt|dburn: mind you, knowing Lauria and Versace they'll get the East-West cards to 3NT, and make it on a spade lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry you brought that up while i was still typing|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|hK|nt|dburn: would overcall 2@h for sure|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|harmon: It doesnt work dumm has to make 3 pitches|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s7|nt|harmon: as long as Seymon keeps 3 spades|pg||
nt|ahollan1: only legitimate squeeze maked @S3 the threat|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: rewind|pg||
nt|dburn: sure it does|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: both doubles surprised me|pg||
pc|h3|pc|c8|pc|s8|pc|d2|pg||
pc|hT|pc|c7|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: if Justin held @SJxxx  he would duck 3rd round, Hemant would ruff and play @C - dummy @S not good|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
nt|harmon: now is cold|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|cQ|mc|12|nt|ahollan1: and @S3 will take last trick!!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow|pg||
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qx|o10|st||md|4SAQTH2DJ62CKT9763,SK72HQJ953DK85CA5,SJ84HK876D93CQJ42,S9653HAT4DAQT74C8|sv|b|nt|hedyg: no way Multon can make 6, will go -1..slowly|pg||
nt|iceking: other table in 6@H so probably 13 imps to Deutch|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: .. has been joking and in good humor most of the set, except somewhat put off not knowing jonsson's clubs were at least as long as his hearts in the 3NT|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|hedyg: he made it!|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: baldursson belatedly alerted 2C with a smile - sequence repeated from earlier this set|pg||
nt|hedyg: on a squeeze|pg||
nt|iceking: huge accident in closed room|pg||
nt|hedyg: no K@S lead|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fulvio leaning so far forward I can't see the tray|pg||
mb|3H|an|natural forcing|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Deutsch (North) threw from his @S10-x-x (defending the heart slam), so South was then squeezed.|pg||
nt|iceking: indeed|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: jonsson contemplating.  fantoni fidgeting with his pen and asking more questions|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: The squeeze threat was the low spade spot-card in the East hand (not West's @SJ), so there would have been no squeeze if North had held his @S10-x-x.|pg||
mb|p|nt|iceking: huge board 26 impo swing|pg||
pc|s4|nt|hedyg: 1@s showed an unbalanced hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@c 4sf|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: "not too much" as he puts dummy down|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: jonsson asks for an escort and leaves the room|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
nt|iceking: and goes for a smoke|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg||
nt|iceking: there is not much in this one |pg||
nt|iceking: will end 620 i cant see any line to go down|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: baldursson in the thinker pose then back to his usual, leaning back with cards on top of his belly|pg||
nt|hedyg: in CR E passed and bid drury when his pd opened 1@h|pg||
nt|hedyg: same contract|pg||
nt|brolucius: How many cards does it accommodate?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes goes through the stack of boards.  56 on the clock|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol David|pg||
nt|iceking: not big fan of passing this east hand|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|h4|pc|cT|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hT|pc|c6|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: "you have a spade? you led the 2!"|pg||
mc|10|nt|hedyg: no i didnt, i led the 4 :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: he did.  then more discussion about their leads|pg||
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qx|c10|st||md|4SAQTH2DJ62CKT9763,SK72HQJ953DK85CA5,SJ84HK876D93CQJ42,S9653HAT4DAQT74C8|sv|b|nt|rodal f: Hi all:)|pg||
nt|ybob: Hi all :)|pg||
nt|harmon: 26 imp swing|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: ok  specs were partially right  @S return GUARANTEED beat|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: this could go ALL pass!|pg||
mb|p|nt|Jacki: Welcome Bob and welcome Rodall |pg||
mb|2C|an|Drury |nt|ybob: now NS will play 4@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nah Sementa has too many "Pearson Points"|pg||
mb|d|nt|dburn: never - someone must have some spades|pg||
nt|ahollan1: even if Deutsch thought Multon held 4@C -- was 9 really a stopper??|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|tlc: another Y chromosome dictated NT opening..|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Pearson =  HCP + number of @S|pg||
mb|p|nt|ybob: better than 3NT|pg||
mb|3C|nt|rodal f: Roberto who did not belive at me when I invited stars?:) Sr. Privat|pg||
mb|p|nt|jfaria:  thx for coming and let me watch RM :)|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|ybob: :)|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: scores are only posted after end of each 16 board segment:  through 1st half   http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-32|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@C looks like check for 5|pg||
nt|dburn: not sure about this - 3@c might be the dreaded Super Stayman, but that used to be 2@s|pg||
nt|tlc: not the worst 6@h anyone has ever been in..and can be made |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: the idea is that with a questionable [keyword] 4th seat opener  you open with 15+ Pearson|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with fewer the risk is being outbid in @S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i sure hope i got that right  15+ vs 14+ Pearson Points|pg||
nt|dburn: prefer my partner's rule: "you should always open in fourth seat, because if the opponents could make anything they would have opened"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: south never bid in the other room   but i doubt that affects the play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: declarer must be careful to preserve transportation to pull 4th round of trump without having winning @D ruffed|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so @SA must be onside|pg||
nt|warrens:  he should ruff a @C then play Ace and a @H, overtaking the 10|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: maybe just @C ruff, @HA @H10?|pg||
pc|c2|pc|h4|pc|c6|pg||
nt|dburn: mind you, this deal may not be so great for that theory, or even Pearson's|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: from my side of the rubber bridge spectrum -- you should always pass 4th seat because then they can't set you|pg||
nt|ahollan1: welcome Warren|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dA|nt|rodal f: Rest i auto.|pg||
nt|dburn: I suppose GIB would win 13 IMPs against either side by bidding and making six hearts|pg||
nt|warrens:  hi:)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|c7|nt|dburn: rubber bridge is different - there, you should always pass anyway, because partner will do enough bidding for both of you|pg||
nt|ahollan1: did 1 round of @D gain something?|pg||
nt|harmon: that was dangerous|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|rodal f: ?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nunes lead was @S|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|s3|nt|rodal f: No @D?|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: i would have no objection to throwing the 9-loser hand -- regardless of Pearsons|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: notice that BOTH souths opened 1N even though 5@H & 4other|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: this is 10 without @S trick|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1SAKJ72HAQDQJ8CK54,SQHKT3DAT764CAT73,ST98654H97642D2C9,S3HJ85DK953CQJ862|sv|o|nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|iceking: here Fantoni can open 1@S|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: jonsson returned late in the hand.  dummy's cards were not getting turned promptly while he was away|pg||
mb|2N|an|20 to bad 22|mb|p|nt|iceking: oh i guess not|pg||
nt|hedyg: 21-22 balanced|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes pulls his chair back from the table, crosses leg, leans onto a spare chair, staring at me as I type|pg||
nt|brolucius: North must look for a non-invitational sequence. Normal players would transfer into spades and then bid 4@H. |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: very intense person to make eye contact with!|pg||
nt|iceking: will always end up in 4@S |pg||
nt|hedyg: some play 4@c= both majors|pg||
nt|brolucius: When they are short of time, I cannot believe that Nunes does not know immediately how to bid this hand type.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: baldursson has his eyes closed.  jonsson still breathing hard since his return.  only board 11 of 64, too soon to be tired|pg||
nt|brolucius: They are not the sort of pair that would change their system every time that they play.|pg||
nt|iceking: i think Jonsson-Baldursson have to play every board in this team|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes staring at the floor, hands behind his head|pg||
nt|hedyg: shall i make an effort? what is this hand worth?|pg||
nt|brolucius: He is breathing hard because the smoking area is 800 yards away, no doubt.|pg||
nt|iceking: they are only 5 on the team |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: very animated|pg||
mb|3C!|nt|hedyg: smoking area? you mean outdoors?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S!|an|5 cards|mb|p|nt|hedyg: they play puppet , so 3@s= 5 cards|pg||
nt|iceking: i bet he is suprised pd has 5@S|pg||
nt|hedyg: he still has 0 hcps though|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fantoni much more relaxed, has hardly moved a muscle all set|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|brolucius: A slam is vaguely possible, but very unlikely.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fantoni hmm@s when dummy hits, nunes chuckles|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: hmm! s that is|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: holding @DQ|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|iceking: he could claim now save time and ask who has @H  king|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: "I give you one club and then..."|pg||
mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfd: baldursson: made 4|pg||
nt|brolucius: West's @SQ lead might have helped declarer, but a lead in any of the other three suits was horrible to contemplate. On some deals declarer would be able to make useful deductions ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: about West's holdings in the other suits because of his choice of lead. |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: quick italian through the window.  fantoni: si, si, si!|pg||
pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1SAKJ72HAQDQJ8CK54,SQHKT3DAT764CAT73,ST98654H97642D2C9,S3HJ85DK953CQJ862|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: sorry 11|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|dburn: striped-tailed ape at the other table|pg||
nt|harmon: spade lead best|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|dburn: mind you, I'm not quite sure how he made six|pg||
nt|ritong: Q10 and A 10 are attractive holdings to receive the lead|pg||
nt|ritong: and dangerous hold em hands:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: from 2007    Support DBL only thru 2@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Kranyak checking to see all hands from same board|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: as geo tislevoll underlines, any hold em hand is dangerous:)|pg||
nt|swanson: This time South holds 3-card support AND a good hand.  Difficult problem now.|pg||
nt|ritong: brogeland would prefer @s x and @c Axx|pg||
nt|ahollan1: of course, playing 4-deal [chicago] bridge   sometimes it is right to open that garbage to "steal the vulnerability"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: notice Duboin did NOT bypass @D to bid that bad 4-card @S suit|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|peachy: Hi everybody|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|ritong: stiff aces are not as pretty as our intermediate/advanced specs might think|pg||
nt|tlc: not sure how they made 6 at the other tbl..|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: newer players think south trump holding GREAT when partner transfer shows 5+ but as you see @SK & @SJ are redundant here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the term often used is  "trump poor"|pg||
mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfc: short break here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Fantoni not surprised until dummy comes down -- Nunes response to 2N was 3@C|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does anyone remember -- is this [renamed] Zimmermann team intact from last year's win, or did Fantunes replace a different 3rd pair?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: daily bulletins at http://www.acbl.org/nabc/index.php?a=2011&b=Spring&c=daily_bulletins|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm sure one of them lists defenders of all events from last year|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Helgemo-Helness as 3rd pair sounds right|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: back|pg||
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qx|o12|st||md|2SQ72HQT95DJ5CJT64,SK543H87DK3CKQ532,SJHK643DQT962CA98,SAT986HAJ2DA874C7|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfd: baldursson: "I was trying to stop a ruff!"|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Vugraphzfd: has a laugh with fantoni who asks him about his hand, which baldursson summarizes|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|brolucius: West cannot open 1@C because that would be artificial and strong.|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 1@D= 2+ cards, 10-15, 11-13 if BAL|pg||
nt|brolucius: In such systems, 1@D is often used as a catch-all bid, covering various hand-types.|pg||
mb|4S|nt|brolucius: It can even include a singleton diamond in some systems. |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|iceking: he had a option to open 2@C also|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: nunes: "he can have 3?" jonsson shakes his head no|pg||
nt|iceking: his plan i think was if pd bids 1@H over 1@D he was going to rebid 1nt not 1@S|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|brolucius: Can this possibly be that magical event - dare we hope? - a deal where they can catch up some time in the play? |pg||
nt|iceking: becouse 1@S shows unbal hand with @D side suit |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: jonsson: "mm-hmm"|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SQ72HQT95DJ5CJT64,SK543H87DK3CKQ532,SJHK643DQT962CA98,SAT986HAJ2DA874C7|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: and i think they've made the move to Monaco along with Fantunes|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ybob: E-W 11 tricks any M, N S -2 in 5@D|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N=20-21 HCP|pg||
nt|tlc: they opened 2N in the other room as well:)|pg||
nt|dburn: this doesn't look bad for Lall either|pg||
mb|3S|nt|ritong: this is why saelen opted for a small distortion i guess|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=10-13 not-vul|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|dburn: still, if West had doubled 3@c....|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: strong three suiters are difficult hands for natural systems|pg||
nt|ahollan1: he thought @C2 was a @H|pg||
nt|reisig: Isn't this a cold 4@s?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i was just thinking -- strange to play transfers over 10-13 opener|pg||
nt|harmon: RR is here!!!!!|pg||
nt|reisig: :)|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: some who play REAL Multi, include the old Roman 2@D [strong 3-suiter]  but otherwise  good 4441 tough in standard|pg||
nt|dburn: but maybe those mighty heart spots came to the rescue|pg||
nt|dburn: ...oh, OK - he did|pg||
nt|ahollan1: um @D|pg||
nt|ritong: justin will lead a @c, he just checks auction|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: uneven tempo here|pg||
nt|dburn: still, I guess the mighty heart spots may still be enough, but this is going to be a bit fraught for Saelensminde|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg||
nt|reisig: ahh ..a correction|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: notice NS "Responsive DBL"  does NOT show other suits -- the focus is HCP|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ritong: bizarre|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ritong: everybody plays @s Q first, trying to get honest count|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: zimmerman showing kranyak his hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: he must know the other room is 2 boards ahead :)|pg||
mc|10|nt|dburn: well, not when they need 3-3 spades to have a prayer anyway|pg||
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qx|o13|st||md|3SATH872DAJ32CJ965,SJ63HQJ943DT94CQ3,SKQ8752HDQ765CA72,S94HAKT65DK8CKT84|sv|b|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|hedyg: 2@S=(9)10-13 unbalanced|pg||
mc|8|nt|iceking: really did Nunes pass|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: now I will be too far behind|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: no but I am lagging and they are playing very fast|pg||
nt|iceking: missing 650 here NS|pg||
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qx|c13|st||md|3SATH872DAJ32CJ965,SJ63HQJ943DT94CQ3,SKQ8752HDQ765CA72,S94HAKT65DK8CKT84|sv|b|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: 2@D here to show 1-suit @H or @S??|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ybob: 4@S defeat only @C lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yep|pg||
mb|d|nt|dburn: this looks good for Strul - 3NT not certain to make|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this auction provided to confirm that things really have changed since  2007 Convention Card |pg||
nt|dburn: at the other table West was able to double a conventional 3@s bid|pg||
nt|ahollan1: HH had a great set|pg||
mb|4H|nt|dburn: here, I suppose he can double a conventional 1@s bid if that's in his repertoire|pg||
mb|4S|nt|peachy: THIRD SEAT 1@c MIGHT HAVE WORKED WONDERS|pg||
nt|ybob: now if 2@C Drury fit, S can X|pg||
nt|peachy: Sorry, Caps, oops|pg||
nt|ybob: i like 1@C from S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nunes opened North a systemic 2@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: they probably have a general agreement that doubling an artificial bid shows the suit|pg||
nt|dburn: but declarer can still succeed by going up with the queen on a spade lead to a top honor and a low spade back|pg||
nt|kerasidis: known?|pg||
nt|kerasidis: sry|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: mind you, he might not|pg||
mb|p|pc|hA|nt|reisig: Nice swing here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: showing 10-13 HCP, unbal [6@S or 5@S and not 4+@H]|pg||
pc|h2|nt|dburn: indeed, at the other table he did not...|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|ritong: 5@d would have been really amusing|pg||
nt|dburn: ...so this is a somewhat fortunate gain for Strul, who would have lost a lot of IMPs if the diamond finesse had been right|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|sK|nt|dburn: or if West had had the decency to have the @s10 with his ace-king for his double of 3@s|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ybob: 9@C defeat if N has at least JXX @S|pg||
nt|ybob: QX too|pg||
pc|dK|nt|dburn: still, they won't throw it back in the river|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h5|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|s8|nt|ritong: now it is stiff K or stiff 109, impossible|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|ritong: and see what happens? K drops|pg||
pc|d7|mc|11|pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SAJ64H9872D82CK42,SKQ82HAKQJ6D753CT,S73H4DQJT96CAJ985,ST95HT53DAK4CQ763|sv|o|nt|hedyg: hard to find @ds without|pg||
nt|iceking: score plus 1 so probably correct was 4@S+1|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: no way 4@H +1|pg||
mb|1H|mb|2N|nt|iceking: yes so it was 4@S +1|pg||
nt|iceking: Nunes would never pass 4@H there |pg||
mb|3H|nt|brolucius: Not after a raise, with a void heart.|pg||
nt|brolucius: East's 3@H suggests a normal single raise. He would bid one of the minors (usually 3@D) with a sound heart raise.|pg||
nt|iceking: Fantoni will i think bid 4@C here |pg||
mb|d!|nt|iceking: looks at least normal 2 me|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|iceking: with @S J onside Baldursson will have no problems here|pg||
nt|hedyg: the bidding will help him|pg||
nt|iceking: yes ofcourse not clear looking at all hands, but after N bidding he will get this right|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hA|pc|c5|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg||
nt|hedyg: really 10@H?|pg||
pc|h6|pc|s3|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg||
nt|hedyg: oh ok|pg||
pc|s5|mc|11|nt|iceking: sure not plus 1|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: I didn't see all the cards.  he crossed to H!T to play spade towards hand|pg||
nt|iceking: then he should have gone down|pg||
nt|iceking: he needed to run @S ten to make i think|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: and apparently I have to be more careful with the claim widget|pg||
nt|brolucius: You are doing us all proud, John. I would only be able to do VG operating for around 7 minutes before retiring with a headache.|pg||
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qx|c14|st||md|4SAJ64H9872D82CK42,SKQ82HAKQJ6D753CT,S73H4DQJT96CAJ985,ST95HT53DAK4CQ763|sv|o|nt|swanson: Declarer could have made an overtrick by refusing the diamond finesse, then playing clubs, ruff a heart, and endplay West.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: impossible because west has not more than 13 cards|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: yes john|pg||
mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: P-P-1@H-2N//  some form of unusual vs unusual?|pg||
mb|2N|nt|ritong: awkward hand for hemant|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: what he did might work pretty well|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or just 3@H competitive|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or ..... PASS  nope didn't really think about that one|pg||
mb|3C|nt|ybob: hard bid to W  now, pass or X ?|pg||
mb|3D|nt|dburn: though surely one of his opponents will bid soon...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but Multon's hand really does have great defense rather than offense|pg||
mb|p|nt|ybob: good|pg||
nt|ybob: now 5@D|pg||
nt|peachy: Kib asked what if they didn't bid game after 2C is doubled?  The loss would be negligible 1 imp of they stayed un partscore while 4S making on any other lead would have been big|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|dburn: ...or maybe they won't|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW 2@D opener is Precision [3-suit short @D] so this is only way to show weak 2  --  unlike NS who use 2@D for really weak and 2@H/@S as constructive|pg||
nt|ritong: nice pot stealing|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C-2@D Gazzilli|pg||
mb|p|nt|reisig: Is this the real bidding?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: it is|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|nt|dburn: Boye must be getting old|pg||
nt|ahollan1: is he in 30s yet?|pg||
nt|dburn: have to start calling him Manne soon|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i wonder if 3@D specifically showed @S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: it would make sense if Multon bid 3@C as invitational @H raise -- then 3@D also an invite|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Duboin did not necessarily have @C for 2@C -- could have been some strong hands|pg||
pc|hA|pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: and how much younger is Erik|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: which goes back to RR's question about correct auction|pg||
pc|h6|nt|harmon: all 3d showed was offensive good hand|pg||
pc|c8|pc|hT|nt|reisig: Looks more like a game try over partner's 3@c|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sJ|nt|peachy: Cards sit favorably for declarer|pg||
nt|harmon: J of clubs was double dummy lead|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg||
mc|10|nt|harmon: not ace of clubs|pg||
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qx|o15|st||md|1SAQ643H9D9752CKT4,S52HKQ864DKCAQ983,ST98HA752DQ86CJ65,SKJ7HJT3DAJT43C72|sv|n|nt|hedyg: now i have to look up widget :(|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
nt|hedyg: widget= small gadget|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: well thanks for the support but I feel like I have fallen down.  will try to get back to speed|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|h3|pc|cK|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|s2|pc|d8|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h9|mc|11|nt|iceking: on board 13 it seems Nunes actually passed 4@H and they got 200 only as 650 in closed room|pg||
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qx|o16|st||md|2SK765HT96DT9CAT92,S9842HA432DQ862CQ,SQJ3HKQDK753CK743,SATHJ875DAJ4CJ865|sv|e|nt|hedyg: last board of this segment now|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: yes. the contract was 4H by Jonsson. Baldursson said "I am trying to do what you did" re: 4M with trumps and no points|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|iceking: 1nt shows 12-14hcp|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: and the bidding cards were back in the box very quickly|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|nt|Vugraphzfd: and I was irresponsible to glance away trying to correct my misclick from the previous board|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|iceking: Hedy do they play 1nt 12-14 in all pos|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|hedyg: we will be back in a bit less than 5 hours|pg||
pc|hT|nt|iceking: many been asking i dont remember|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d3|pg||
nt|hedyg: i believe they do|pg||
pc|h8|pc|d9|pc|h4|pc|d5|pg||
nt|iceking: i think so also |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: 15-17|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: was announced here anyway|pg||
nt|brolucius: Even these mighty players should be asked to show their cards clearly for the benefit of the kibitzers on BBO.  |pg||
pc|sT|nt|iceking: oh|pg||
nt|iceking: thats new then|pg||
nt|brolucius: Will not follow my usual practice of complaining about a 1NT contract, because we have had some interesting big boards (4 and 9). The faulty defence to 6@H at the other table and ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: the bidding here to that excellent 7@C.|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: must have thrown D on the H|pg||
pc|cT|nt|Vugraphzfd: didn't loet me see|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: passed to CJ|pg||
nt|hedyg: oh sry, 2nd segment following immediately now|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: I will clean up what I can during the break|pg||
nt|hedyg: segments 3 and 4 in 5 hours|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|d6|pc|c7|pg||
nt|iceking: so one down |pg||
pc|dT|mc|6|nt|iceking: thx every one  |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: players tried to check the score but I was correcting line of play|pg||
nt|hedyg: bye for now|pg||
nt|brolucius: Thanks for watching!|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: for anyone still here, board 7 will not be adjusted.  director said it didnt sound like nunes was really asking for one but just wanted to inform him what had happened|pg||
nt|santyclz: Thanks John.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: still 15 minutes on the clock - no idea when they'll be ready for the next segment|pg||
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qx|c16|st||md|2SK765HT96DT9CAT92,S9842HA432DQ862CQ,SQJ3HKQDK753CK743,SATHJ875DAJ4CJ865|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfc: last hand of first 1/2|pg||
nt|ritong: that s weird indeed|pg||
nt|tomek: trefle 3-3 wyrobione|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16 now showing results from 2 matches -- both close|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is final board of 1st of 4 16-board segements|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|ritong: confirmed, operator?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ybob: easy defeat 3NT with @C lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: during the breaks -- you should check the rest of bridgewinners site -- some great stuff!!|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: last board of the set   ---   usually 15 minute break, but early restart at discretion of teams|pg||
nt|ahollan1: for those unfamiliar with West's opening bid   2@D shows @D|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: oh, I see - South just returned a club and West got the spades wrong|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: bad mouse |pg||
nt|ahollan1: running totals thru Q3 will show up at  http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-32|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but none posted yet|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: in other room Fantunes 1N=12-14|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3rd set begins in about 3 hours|pg||
nt|harmon: I think Multon shd be penalized|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: no real resolution on the last hand -- director said to play the last board|pg||
nt|harmon: 200 imps|pg||
nt|sharkey: hei bb - hjemme i kveld?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: movie not showing result for  15 -- probably because of director call|pg||
nt|harmon: I agree Carl|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: is this also down 1 or is there 2nd undertrick for defense|pg||
pc|d4|nt|dburn: I guess without the opening bid, this might have gone down - declarer could lose two spades and two clubs on completely normal play|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d2|nt|peachy: Two more sets, match us not out of hand for either side|pg||
nt|peachy: *is|pg||
nt|ybob: w has a chance now|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 7:30 eastern|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: seems down 2 most likely|pg||
nt|reisig: Looks more like 100|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|cT|nt|ybob: now A @H and @C|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kranyak has 3 things going against him -- no winners, too many losers, bad lie of cards|pg||
pc|s2|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
nt|ybob: later squeeze to S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other than that 2@S is fine contract|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hQ|nt|ritong: gling|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: on 47 Boye got out with @CK, hemant did not get @S right|pg||
nt|ritong: yes  okidoki|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: my mouse really unsteady|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks John -- great job|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: don't know what match to be played, closest one is my guess|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: check bridgewinners web site for up to date 3/4 scores|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: cayne match 4 imp difference|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow -- italians had great comeback set|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: robinson match 12 imps, think fred stewart is sick, continued play uncertain|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: he is slowly walking into the room tho right now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: scores slowly being posted on http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-32|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Robinson is playing 4-handed so illness is bad for multiple reasons|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h9|pg||
nt|ybob: suicide squeeze|pg||
pc|d8|nt|kamla: brilliant line of play|pg||
nt|leao: brilliant indeed|pg||
nt|ybob: better cash A@H first|pg||
pc|d7|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh my -- this is last board|pg||
nt|ahollan1: how did that happen so quickly?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other room is playing  60|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so if you want to got there, please leave in single file|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 42 minutes left on clock|pg||
nt|ahollan1: another great job John --- thanks|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: speed keeps operator awake|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if they haven't run out already -- please thank the players for us|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: sometimes too quick for me tho|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: will do|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: NS really solid here this set|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 2 soft results but 3-4 great results|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: 3rd result posted   curious that Nickell also has small lead -- i don't think boards are duplicated across matches except for Semi-Final|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c2|mc|6|nt|ahollan1: :) after that statement   Cayne posts score of 40+ lead|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: short break to compare|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks all -- see you in  15 [probably]|pg||
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