vg|2011 Vanderbilt R16,Segment 2 of 4,I,17,32,Monaco Z,23,Deutsch,36|
rs|5SN+1,4SN=,5DN-2,3HWx-2,2SW+1,2HN-1,2SE+2,2HW+1,6HS+1,6HN+1,4SN+1,4SN+1,4SNx-2,3CSx-2,4HN-1,4SEx-1,4NW+1,3NW+2,3SS=,3SS=,3SE+1,4SW+1,1NW=,3HN=,2DW+2,3DW+1,1NS+1,3NS=,3NE=,3CS-1,3SS-1,3SS-2|
pn|M.Bessis,Kranyak,T.Bessis,Deutsch,Jonsson,Fantoni,Baldursson,Nunes|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3SAT7H83DT543CA964,SJ952HT7542D92C73,SKQ8643HKJDAK7CQJ,SHAQ96DQJ86CKT852|sv|o|nt|lc: I don't know if anyone else is here "talking" but hello everyone.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Kranyak/Deutsch/Michel just arrived.  clock down to 50 forthe first 8|pg||
nt|lc: We have the 2nd quarter (16 boards) of a Round of 16 Vanderbilt Match.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: EW playing "old-fashioned" and standard carding|pg||
mb|2D!|an|strong but not GF|nt|lc: A likely 4@S for N-S -- but very bad splits could cause trouble.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: 2D = 22-23 BAL or 8-8.5tricks unbal|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: deutsch studying his hand after getting the explanation|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H!|an|forced|mb|p|mb|2S|an|!S|nt|lc: Against 4@S West will have a tough opening lead choice -- I think only a @C would keep him alive to beat 4@S.|pg||
nt|peachy: It is common in Europe to have two strong openings, 2C and 2D|pg||
mb|3S|mb|4S|nt|lc: Presumably South, not North, bid 3@S ?|pg||
nt|peachy: Trance and some other places|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: deutsch bid 3S|pg||
nt|peachy: *F|pg||
nt|lc: Wow.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: I am not sure exactly what it shows|pg||
mb|5H|nt|Vugraphzfd: had some glitches in the 1st qtr but at this pace I can keep up|pg||
nt|lc: I guess we won't get to see the lead against 4@S.  :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: score confirmed by players pending protest over board15|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: Incidentally, North (Thomas) is the son of South (Michel) -- for those wondering.|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: No doubt, a Forcing Pass from North.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: deutsch nibbling on a sandwich - protest caused the other room to finish late|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: It would seem Deutsch can survive any lead against FIVE @S.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: folds his hand, takes another bite, points at 2H for explanation|pg||
nt|peachy: It would seem a defensive error is needed to allow five to make, unlikely :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: in no hurry despite the clock and the new slow play regulations|pg||
mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|lc: Not an easy lead problem.  Any votes for @DQ?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: at least one player on your side|pg||
nt|peachy: Larry, your crystall ball is working :)|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|lc: Might declarer pick up the @S -- but starting low to the ace?|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|lc: If so, he might make this.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c2|pc|sA|nt|lc: This will allow him to pick up spades, but still work to do, it seems.|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|nt|peachy: The 3S bid might have helped declarer find the working line|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h9|pg||
nt|lc: But how will he avoid 3 red-suit losers is the question.  Yes, there are ways...|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s7|nt|lc: Declarer can imagine that East will have troubles on the run of some spades.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak pulls out a card and puts it back|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: now wavering|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|hQ|pc|h3|nt|lc: Well, that takes care of that.|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|s6|pc|hA|pc|c4|nt|lc: Hmmm.|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|d7|nt|lc: If Deutsch throws the @DJ next, it will make 7.|pg||
pc|dJ|mc|12|pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3SAT7H83DT543CA964,SJ952HT7542D92C73,SKQ8643HKJDAK7CQJ,SHAQ96DQJ86CKT852|sv|o|nt|sybarra2: by email or ???  |pg||
mb|1C!|mb|1N!|mb|d|an|8+ bal or 5-7 unbalanced|mb|2S!|nt|Vugraphzfc: they are explaining bids quietly, not always writing -- I'm not sure of 2@S|pg||
mb|d|mb|3C|nt|peachy: Hello everyone|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i believe 1N=2 suits same color --- so 2@S = pass/correct|pg||
mb|d|nt|peachy: Defense has entry even if club is ducjed so this wont make, but likely push, unless S gets to be declarer|pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-32  for half-time scores in all 16 matches|pg||
mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|warrens:  not m + M?|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|peachy: 4H would be a better contract|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: it is M+m different colours|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry i gave explanation for DBL :(|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=shape|pg||
nt|chorush: Hello everyone|pg||
nt|hedyg: @C+@H or @D + @S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but still 2@S=pass/correct|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: so 1N was pointed suits or round -- 2S pass or correct|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|hedyg: thus showing a good hand for @H|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c2|nt|peachy: Controlrich and nice suit, I prefer 1H opening and so do the many kibitzers who messages about it|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|h6|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/italy/fantoni-nunes.pdf|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes or for @cs|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/iceland/jonsson-baldursson.pdf|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d5|nt|hedyg: to watch multiple tables : http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
nt|chorush: I didnt see the point of cashing the diamond king. It looks like he would still need the club finesse regardless|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Fantunes CC from 2009 Bermuda Bowl  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/italy/fantoni-nunes.pdf|pg||
nt|sillafu: nice end position if fantoni discard Club and nunez play 10c|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|nt|Vugraphzfc: welcome to the round of 16 in the Vanderbilt from Louisville|pg||
nt|harmon: They setting up a trump promotion good d|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|s9|nt|harmon: pesky 5 of hts|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o18|st||md|4SA543H87DQT62CT98,SKJ7HKQJ92D943C32,SQ6H654DAKJ85CKQJ,ST982HAT3D7CA7654|sv|n|nt|lc: This will feel lousy for E-W, but good chance it is just lose 2 against 420.|pg||
nt|lc: Still, it is not a fun way to start a set of 16.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak: made...six?|pg||
nt|lc: Yes -- East discarded @HAQ.|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: All the matchpoints.|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: A modern day weak 2@H in 3rd seat at these colors.|pg||
nt|lc: I don't like 5-card weak 2's, but with this chunky suit and being 3rd-seat, fav -- anything goes.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: deutsch asked something to which thomas said "I think so" and asked if deutsch was 5530 but told 0445|pg||
mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|4H|nt|lc: As Marty Bergen used to tell me: "3rd seat Fav is not bridge."|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: I'll go out on a limb and predict the defense sets THIS 5-level contract.|pg||
mb|p|pc|hA|nt|lc: Incidentally, 4@H wasn't down yet -- but probably would have been set.|pg||
pc|h7|nt|lc: So, almost a sure down 2 -- and 200 coming to E-W.|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c2|nt|Walddk2: http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-16  for first quarter scores in all 8 matches|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|dA|nt|lc: I don't blame East for not doubling.  His partner could have had ANYTHING in 3rd seat white -- no reason to believe he was getting more than his 2 aces.|pg||
mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfd: pulls trump and asks: stiff K of @S?|pg||
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qx|c18|st||md|4SA543H87DQT62CT98,SKJ7HKQJ92D943C32,SQ6H654DAKJ85CKQJ,ST982HAT3D7CA7654|sv|n|mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Son and father E-W, Justin and Hemant|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3rd seat  will Fantoni open 2@H   [10-13 unbal]|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: as kibs pointed out he couldve ruffed with the 4 and not wasted the 6|pg||
mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: EW system uses ALL 1-level opening bids as 1 round force  usually 14+ HCP|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|hedyg: and 2 level openings are (9)10-13 unbalanced|pg||
nt|hedyg: OR 5@D|pg||
nt|hedyg: no double|pg||
nt|hedyg: W opened a weak 2 @H there|pg||
nt|chorush: This seems to me to be asking too much of double: to show spades with or without extras?|pg||
nt|chorush: Pass is an incipient disaster|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Strul was leading by 72-26 after the first quarter. Remarkable comeback by Lall in the second|pg||
pc|h4|nt|chorush: trumps are best but 303 clubs will probably let him survive|pg||
nt|hedyg: well pd bid a vulnerable 3@d, this is doesnt cost more than bidding 4@D|pg||
nt|hedyg: but pass..|pg||
nt|hedyg: i doubt S would have doubled if he thought his pd would pass|pg||
nt|chorush: If Fantoni wins in hand and ducks a club, defense has to stitch to tapping dummy|pg||
nt|ahollan1: from other room Larry Cohen commenting on West Opening   "As Marty Bergen used to tell me: "3rd seat Fav is not bridge.""|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and others confirm Fantoni didn't really promise 10 HCP here -- just less than 1@H opening|pg||
nt|hedyg: E in OR bid 4@H on 3@D and S flew to 5@D|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: but still only 7 of top [current] 16 seeds leading at the half|pg||
nt|jbennet: agree fully and the  1 NT opening got what it deserved with 2 open suits and no tenaces what soever  opening 1 NT will most often only achieve a) confirming alfa male status. and ...|pg||
nt|jbennet: b) lose IMP:s for its time. |pg||
nt|harmon: this 1 or 2 down|pg||
nt|harmon: also as kibs pointed out he runs outta trumps to lol|pg||
nt|harmon: sEE i NEED ALL DE HELP i CAN GET|pg||
nt|harmon: oops sorry for capps|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: the other room is up now -- it can be watched simultaneously using http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
nt|harmon: I type like doo doo|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
pc|h6|nt|favallu: vere 2 o 3 manitas al brogeland y a la camita|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hK|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|nt|chorush: defenders are lucky that Fantponi did not choose the winning point of view|pg||
pc|hT|pc|d6|pg||
nt|varoslu: :):)):):|pg||
nt|varoslu: sorry|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: EW Convention Card from 2008 Mind Sports:  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2008MindSportGamesBeijing/Open/France/multon-zimmerman.pdf|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: from 2010 Trials ACBL CC for Lalls:  http://usbf.org/docs/2010usbc/acblcards/LallLall.jpg|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|c5|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|h5|pc|s9|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1ST432HQ6DQ8CQ9743,SQJ85H843DK4CAKT5,SAHKT752DAJ965CJ2,SK976HAJ9DT732C86|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfd: michel asks kranyak something, kranyak: "I have to guess" (to make 4@H?)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|lc: As best Deutsch could have hoped for -- only a 2-IMP loss on Bd 17 -- because other East also gave away shape and declarer in 4@S guessed trumps.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: I don't know if North had 2NT available the first time as red suits -- but most players try to avoid it with "inbetween" strength such as north's.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: thomas asks if 1S shows 3, deutsch answers 4|pg||
nt|lc: I am surprised to see North sell out.|pg||
nt|lc: I can' live with defending against a 2-level 8-card fit.  Would have bid the 3rd diamond.|pg||
nt|baylind: abarttým yolda  kustum zaten  ....|pg||
nt|lc: yeah.|pg||
nt|lc: what he said.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak asks what NS play over EW 1@C|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d8|nt|lc: I;'ll have to remember that next time my opponents get to play 2@S on an 8-card fit.  abarttym yolda kustum zaten|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|peachy: :)|pg||
nt|lc: Now, I'm not saying 3@D would be a huge triumph -- but I'd have to bid it.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: is defending 2 of an 8-card fit or declaring 3 of a 7-card fit the greater violation of the Law?|pg||
pc|h2|nt|lc: North would likely end up in 3@H  undoubled.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak chuckles at the sight of @H2|pg||
nt|lc: Well, North didn't know he didn't have an 8-card diamond fit.|pg||
nt|peachy: were it MPs, E might DBL, but not imps|pg||
nt|peachy: Dbl 3H I meant|pg||
nt|lc: As I've often said (stupidly), I prefer -1100 to -110.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: seymon thinks he heard something and asks "which one?", kranyak:"I'm thinking"|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h5|nt|lc: Anyway, 3@H isn't so bad -- probably a slow down 1.  Anyway, even -50 is better than -110 or -140.  2-3 IMPs is 2-3 IMPs.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|d5|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c8|nt|lc: Incidentally, East, Seymon Deutsch is one of THE NICEST guys in bridge.  Very humble, too.|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
mc|9|nt|lc: His team is 5-handed -- apparently Kranyak and Billy Cohen play at night  (Icelanders at other table throughout).|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: deutsch reached for small spade unprompted and kranyak had to say 9!9!9!9!9!|pg||
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qx|c19|st||md|1ST432HQ6DQ8CQ9743,SQJ85H843DK4CAKT5,SAHKT752DAJ965CJ2,SK976HAJ9DT732C86|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: the other room is visible via http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Welcome to John Swanson|pg||
mb|1N|nt|swanson: Hi all.|pg||
nt|harmon: Uh oh Al is here!!!:)   hi Al|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=12-14  and more shapes than you might expect|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: Hiya Harmon -- abandon all hope|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N covers all ranges of @S raises|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D Precision, 2+|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H does promise @H & 4+@C/@D|pg||
mb|p|pc|s7|pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: especially when i'm looking at the wrong convention card|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hQ|nt|harmon: I leave system to Al|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: was 3 spades with 11-14|pg||
nt|harmon: overtricks all on lead|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|harmon: good lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: looking at the running score, you'd think overtricks are critical  --  but this is a 64 board match, so we won't worry about them for a while|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|Walddk4: Can endplay West if he reads it|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW  carding  upside-down count & attitued    NS  upside-down attitude, Standard count|pg||
nt|Walddk4: and make|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
nt|henryb:  this appears to have six losers, but I think the defense will have difficulty collecting all their tricks. West will probably get end played at some point|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d8|nt|ahollan1: 2@S might just be puppet to 2N    in 2nd set Lauria-Versace used it to show BAL hand OR 5+@H|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|h6|nt|swanson: Not much hope for the defense here.  |pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS system summary from 2010 trials says  "standard count, attitude, and suit-preference....we signal when we feel it will help the defence"|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer needs the layout to be as it is to make.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Hemant did well not to lead a top club, but it's not enough|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: CC for EW from 2009 Bermuda Bowl  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/brazil/campos-villasboas.pdf|pg||
pc|s6|nt|harmon: playing a "known" card|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|jbennet: -1 if defence dont slip.|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg||
nt|friggi: hi all|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: did not play the king -- sorry|pg||
pc|c5|nt|harmon: Hi F|pg||
nt|ahollan1: scores from other matches get posted at the end of each 16 board segment on http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Multon pointing out the Kranyak's ruffing with the 6 on the first hand lost the setting trick|pg||
pc|d6|pc|hJ|nt|warrens:  -2 with best defense, but now -1|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|jbennet: yes correct -2 wothout slip, (but they did slip so -1 it should be)|pg||
pc|hA|pc|s4|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg||
pc|dT|mc|7|nt|bridge_one: -3 without sleep|pg||
nt|hedyg: Nunes might have led a @C if he wanted to ruff|pg||
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qx|o20|st||md|2ST2HKT3DQ9873CQ64,SQ8HAQ654DACJ8532,SK75HJ97DJ654CAKT,SAJ9643H82DKT2C97|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak very busy at the table|pg||
mb|2S|nt|lc: Nice pick-up fro DEutsch on 18 when they jockeyed N-S into 5@D -2, other table palyed 3@H doubled E-W down 2 -- must have been repeated trump leads -- but sounds like a lot to go ...|pg||
nt|lc: -2 -- I'd think closer to making!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|lc: Not the worst game ever (4@S).  Needs the @H hook and/or some racing luck.|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg||
nt|lc: West could have bid a hungry 3@S -- and East might go.|pg||
nt|peachy: Even I would have no trouble playing this one|pg||
nt|lc: On the very friendly lie, 11 tricks are likely.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: door is open, hall is noisy; kranyak gets up to close the door|pg||
nt|lc: Vul, at IMPs, it's not such a bad game (a VUL game at IMPs, if even 40% is worht bidding).|pg||
nt|marlowepi: hi all:)|pg||
nt|lc: If you are in every 40% game, and other table plays all of them in a partscore, your odds are good over 100 boards.  (You win 10 IMPs for everyone tha makes and lose only 6 for ...|pg||
nt|lc: those that fail).|pg||
nt|peachy: Hello Marshall|pg||
nt|lc: Hi Marshall -- see if you can get a word in edgewise -- not easy when I'm here with my flying fingers. :)|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg||
nt|marlowepi: there is huge hidden value in bidding close games too. much more pressure on opps, so the 40% figure doesnt even tell the full story|pg||
nt|lc: Yeah.  Try playing against Mecwkell for 64 boards of defending tight games.  Not fun.|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|hK|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|s6|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sT|mc|10|nt|lc: So, this is quite possibly a pickup for Monaco Z  (how many of them live in Monaco, by the way -- and for how many days)?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak says sorry, asks what deutsch's spades were, and says sorry again|pg||
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qx|c20|st||md|2ST2HKT3DQ9873CQ64,SQ8HAQ654DACJ8532,SK75HJ97DJ654CAKT,SAJ9643H82DKT2C97|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfc: not optimal defense on last hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2007BermudaBowlShanghai/bermuda-bowl/Norway/saelensminde-brogeland.pdf|pg||
nt|swanson: Takeout doubles need a bit more definition than normal against a short minor opening - the doubler might not be short in the opened suit.|pg||
nt|Walddk4: They changed a few things since 2007|pg||
nt|ahollan1: is this 1@S or 1@C opener for Zimmermann?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: there are still a few who open 1@C with 55 blacks -- when strong enough to jump shift on 2nd round|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: NS from 2010 European  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/duboin-sementa.pdf|pg||
nt|harmon: 7c|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|friggi: this one fits the decription|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other side of the spectrum -- opening 1@C/@D DENIES 5@H/@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk4: But they did not play much together since|pg||
nt|chorush: that is on the high side of 10-13|pg||
nt|hedyg: W is surely maximum for his 2@H bid|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H=10-13, 5+@H unbal [6322 = unbal] NOT 4+@S|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: 2@C=11-16 HCP, 6+@C|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Q3 results at http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-32|pg||
nt|harmon: I dont agree clubs are not good enuff|pg||
nt|harmon: change ace of d for club then yes|pg||
pc|c7|nt|ahollan1: last announcement:  other room is visible via http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
pc|c6|nt|harmon: 4d probably kc|pg||
nt|harmon: in clubs I hope|pg||
nt|ahollan1: I agree Harmon -- this isn't right hand even if system allows|pg||
nt|ahollan1: kool option would be 4@D asks KC in BOTH suits|pg||
nt|harmon: it might|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 2n was again 11-14 with 3 spades -- i can't read what 4D is|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry 11-15|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2N max, not 4@H/@S|pg||
nt|Walddk4: For instance, they now play transfer responses to 1@C. They did not in 2007|pg||
pc|h7|nt|harmon: not a good leaner Joe??|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: both pairs use upside-down count & attitude|pg||
nt|chorush: I have some doubts about doing this with a 5 card side suit but who can dispute their results?|pg||
pc|hT|nt|dburn: they may well do, but was this really the auction?|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|hedyg: he decided not to upgrade, didnt like Qx in @s?|pg||
pc|c3|nt|swanson: This is one of those hand where you want to get the king of the dangerous suit on opening lead - tough to develope a system for that.|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Horrible as defender to see that spade combination in dummy|pg||
nt|Walddk4: We have all been there|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Seems a normal line to win and play a club to the ace and another|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: declarer long pause|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer is not certain how to avoid losing a trick in each suit plus a ruff.  If he plays trumps early his only certain entry to dummy is gone.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: certainly not playing too quickly at trick 1|pg||
nt|ahollan1: random guess   4@D=denial cue   slam interest but NO @D card|pg||
nt|ahollan1: actually  i'm not sure if 10-11 can open 2@H with 4@S  --- but 12-13 4@S 5@H opens 1@H|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c9|nt|harmon: hard to recover from 2n|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|harmon: natural auction works better here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the treatment does seem to eat up a lot of space when holding only 3-fit|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 4@D showed 4 clubs and a certain number of key cards -- not sure of the definition of key card here|pg||
nt|harmon: then 6s was a lazy bid|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: that sounds like a system that might have got them to the grand|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: it is puzzling, isn't it David|pg||
nt|dburn: 3@d all pass I could understand|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ahhhh   4@D SHOWING key cards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or maybe if @DA was @CA instead|pg||
pc|dA|nt|swanson: Sorry - thought it was passed out in 3@C.|pg||
pc|d4|nt|tlc: that cant be right..|pg||
nt|dburn: and was this really the play?|pg||
nt|hedyg: even with 11 hcps|pg||
pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: I expected 3@C to end auction too John  --  guess it becomes constructive after 2@D   for THIS pair|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Saælensminde probably winning the king now|pg||
nt|tlc: 2D is inv or better and with 15, hard to turn down invite|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Then he has 96 still|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|chorush: yes, it's true that the honors were in the rwong suit(s)|pg||
pc|c8|nt|ahollan1: singleton Ace - greatly overrated for offense|pg||
pc|cK|nt|hedyg: or Q@S Q@c|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c4|pg||
nt|Walddk4: well guessed|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: sorry, figity mouse here, moves by itself|pg||
nt|Walddk4: np|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that's the ghost of terence reese|pg||
nt|dburn: you're not supposed to play the ten with this suit, and surely Villas-Boas knows it|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|Walddk4: Two winning lines. He can set up clubs and rely on the heart finesse, or he can play a spade first|pg||
pc|s4|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the Icelanders are relaying  7th round of bidding and they're only at 4@H right now|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3SA3HK832DA72CAQ75,SQJT7H974DT94CJ86,SK54HAQ65DK53CK32,S9862HJTDQJ86CT94|sv|n|nt|marlowepi: another wrinkle on that theme is that often one can bend the odds in one's favor through bidding the game more quickly or on occasion in a somewhat misleading way|pg||
nt|lc: A good 6@H here for N-S.|pg||
nt|lc: With @C3-3 and @H3-2, it has 13 easy tricks.|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: je signale aux spectateurs franco[hones qu'ils sont invites de me lancer des questions ou commentaires dans leur langue maternelle:)|pg||
nt|lc: Flat 17 opposite flat 15, so not obvious to reach 6 -- let's see if they do.|pg||
mb|2N!|an|GF ask|nt|marlowepi: very primey S hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: What language is spoken in Monaco.  French, too?|pg||
mb|3N|an|flat w/ pts in !S & !D|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: hearts are poor but controls very sexy|pg||
nt|marlowepi: yes|pg||
nt|lc: 2NT, presumably a forcing ask -- and 3NT showing balanced max.|pg||
nt|marlowepi: the monegasques:)|pg||
nt|marlowepi: N also has good controls plus reasonably robust trumps. only flaw there is 4333|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: thomas considerately writes his explanations and turns the sheet where deutsch and I can read it|pg||
mb|4C|an|cue|nt|lc: Nobody has any 10's or 9's -- usually that can tip the scales to staying lower.|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: both hands have such crisp values i predict a slam, esp bec Thomas is an aggressive bidder|pg||
mb|6H|mb|p|nt|lc: There you go!|pg||
nt|lc: :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: An easy opening lead problem, anyway -- for all it will gain West.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: pick up the bidding cards then ask about the auction on both sides of screen|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|lc: Does anyone know N-S opening 1NT range?  Presumably he had a max for 2@H.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: believe thomas said he had shown 12-14 balanced with 4 hearts|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
nt|lc: Looks like 15 to me.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
nt|marlowepi: he probably demoted hand because of shape and no spots. not a popular practice|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|lc: Usually, today, players only upgrade -- never downgrade. :)|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|h8|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cK|nt|lc: This was such a good slam, because even with 4-1 trumps it still had decent play.|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|h6|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3SA3HK832DA72CAQ75,SQJT7H974DT94CJ86,SK54HAQ65DK53CK32,S9862HJTDQJ86CT94|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: this time for sure|pg||
mb|1N|nt|tlc: hands like that get your adrenelin going..|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i think Multon agrees with you Harmon|pg||
nt|chorush: Looks like a routine 6 hearts here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i've always wondered about the 2-level openers   last hand playing @S instead of @H is example - but this time only an overtrick difference|pg||
mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: 2@C="see previous board"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: indeed - perfect hand for the methods|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: NS 1N=14-16 throughout|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: announced in other room during relay auction      Nunes is out of green cards|pg||
nt|harmon: unlikey 2c over 1s unless EXTREMELY agressive|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@D=CONFI  asking Controls [A2K1]|pg||
nt|chorush: kibs are commenting that 7 hearts will make. The fact that it is approximately a 25% contract notwithstanding|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: this is the final set of the Round of 32 -- winners play tomorrow behind screens, losers are out of the event|pg||
nt|harmon: at other table I mean|pg||
mb|4C|nt|ahollan1: followers of George Rosenkranz will be familiar with CONFI|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: NS play 2/1 Almost GF -- don't expect too many alerts|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: still talking with "animation" about last hand|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: both pairs standard carding|pg||
nt|jbgood: first segment Nunes opened 2 @s - next man bid 3 @h and Fantoni 3 @s - 4 @h and all pass - were cold for 5 spades... seems the intermediate opener has its weak points - or is it ...|pg||
nt|jbgood: just judgement?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: just guessing  4@C now suits up the line|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: Im told they bid grand at other table|pg||
nt|harmon: well done|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Multon 2nd lead treats @S10 as an honor|pg||
mb|6H|nt|ahollan1: :)  but not even close to 1@C opener [which dad's was on previous board]|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Duboin really has problem --  hate to pass, fear 3@D from Sementa|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: yep -- i was just counting the   of bids :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|chorush: Relay systems have the only real chance to get to 7 on a hand like this if one of them had the club J|pg||
nt|chorush: which would make it a reasonable contract|pg||
pc|d2|nt|Vugraphzfc: no, was 4th best as announced|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the play was MUCH faster than the bidding|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2N scramble makes DBL much more reasonable|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: how many vote for 2nd DBL from Boye??|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i.e.  3@D would then probably [keyword] show 6|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|nt|ahollan1: @D4 should help Zim find @C shift |pg||
nt|harmon: If guess well rise with ace of clubs for endplay|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s5|nt|jfaria:  2 swings|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|nt|harmon: As some tirkish trucker:) pointed out needed a club shift after ht queen|pg||
nt|harmon: turkish too|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|h8|pc|sJ|pg||
mc|13|nt|ahollan1: in CONFI the opening bid defines what the step responses will be  for 14-16, my guess is step 1 = 0-3  so 3N=5|pg||
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qx|o22|st||md|4SKJ4HA96DJ8653CK8,S2HK43DAKT942CQ72,SAQ87653HQ875DC96,ST9HJT2DQ7CAJT543|sv|e|nt|marlowepi: apart from the macho thing, my experience (though admittedly the database is very scanty)is that downgrading is a bad-karma  practice. even when it looks right onpaper, some fluke ...|pg||
nt|marlowepi: makes you pay bitterly. this is especially true of downgrading a "bad 1" to 1NT|pg||
nt|lc: On 20, where E-W played in only 2@S, Fantoni-Nunes opened a systemic 2@H and played there.  Not going well for Monaco.|pg||
nt|marlowepi: bad 18|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|lc: Very dangerous Vul against not overcall, but survivable this time.|pg||
mb|3N|nt|lc: 3NT?  Really?  Nice @S stopper.|pg||
nt|peachy: Kranyak took it seriously, as he should|pg||
mb|4C|nt|lc: Well, East was a passed hand.  There must be something between 2@C and 3NT. :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: Well maybe he really should have a spade stopper for it , one minor detail|pg||
nt|lc: Maybe 3NT was a tactical bid -- West knows N-S likely have big @S fit -- and he can always run to 4@C if doubled.|pg||
mb|4D|mb|d|nt|Vugraphzfd: delicately places the red card on the tray|pg||
mb|4H|nt|lc: Meanwhile, it is N-S hand for a spade game.|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak sometimes fishes for bidding cards, sometimes snatches them, sometimes whips cards onto the tray, sometimes looks at them a while before placing them|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: auction indicates The Bessis do not use support doubles|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|nt|lc: as a writer, I need to know the proper plural form of Bessis, please.|pg||
nt|lc: Bessis's?|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s5|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: thomas asks standard honor leads, kranyak answers yes|pg||
nt|lc: A writer would need to write about them a lot lately -- they have been quite successful of late.|pg||
pc|c6|nt|lc: From our catbird seat, we see an easy 450 on the friendly lie -- but decalarer has some issues.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: pulls out @CA and puts it back, studies hand under the table|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg||
nt|lc: Meanwhile, Baldursson-Jonsson are having a very nice game in the other room for Deutsch.|pg||
pc|sT|nt|lc: Jonsson is one of my heroes -- he taught me some Icelandic -- so that I could talk Icelandic when in foreign countries and hawkers were bothering me in English.|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|lc: Now with @S 2-1 and the @CA right, decalrer knows he is just playing around for overtricks.|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sK|nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak looked at DK a while before playing it|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|d5|nt|Vugraphzfd: then inched @D2 toward the table|pg||
pc|d4|nt|lc: That's a "High" @D5, but it doesn' really do declarer any good.|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c3|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: "can I see these again?"|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|s6|nt|lc: This is nice technique and back-and-forth fun for declarer, all for the same eventual 450. :)|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg||
nt|peachy: I suppose he plays through instead of claiming, but many would claim I think|pg||
nt|lc: Declarer has set himself up for a position where he can hold himself to 4|pg||
nt|lc: If he plays Deutsch for the @HK.|pg||
nt|lc: Bridge can be a funny game.  My Aunt Tillie would have played up to the @HQ as her only chance.  Well, actually, she might have led the @HQ from hand.   I better stop before I get ...|pg||
nt|lc: in trouble.|pg||
mc|11|nt|peachy: No more cooies for larry|pg||
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qx|c22|st||md|4SKJ4HA96DJ8653CK8,S2HK43DAKT942CQ72,SAQ87653HQ875DC96,ST9HJT2DQ7CAJT543|sv|e|nt|harmon: another chance missed|pg||
nt|harmon: small swing tho|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: while you contemplate that -- nay sayers should note that the 1st board was PUSH at 3N-2|pg||
nt|hedyg: acc to the CC, 3@H= 3, so 3@s=4 etc?|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Walddk2: Good evening to David Burn|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.confsudbridge.org/ranking/rsmd.aspx?tipo=RSML  shows how highly placed Campos team players rank in Zone 3 [South America]|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: hello|pg||
mb|1N|mb|2D|nt|harmon: 3h makes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@D from Deutsch now?|pg||
mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: spoiler alert    East is  1|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: wow - 3@H seems like an underbid, he really doesn't like 4333 and slow @S cards|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: A second double would have been successful, 3@H will likely make N-S.|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|s3|pg||
nt|jfaria:  1 @d from W would need a more tuuf bidding for N/S I guess :)|pg||
nt|harmon: d lead best|pg||
nt|ahollan1: is there a way to go down after the "automatic" @S lead?|pg||
nt|harmon: automatic??? imho horrible lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i wouldn't say horrible -- but quote marks indicate doubt :)|pg||
nt|harmon: lol |pg||
nt|ahollan1: with @HKxxx starting tap was definitely an option|pg||
nt|ahollan1: assuming Multon does NOT cover @Squack -- Kranyak needs line to take care of 4th round @S loser|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @CA onside helps - but transportation a problem|pg||
nt|harmon: I dont think hell put up the Q or J|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|nt|harmon: wants to lead clubs|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: i missed that :(|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Upside-down attitude for N-S, so ducking won't help|pg||
nt|dburn: sensible to stop in 2@h here, but they may have needed to stop in one|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d2|nt|harmon: hts first 1st get news|pg||
pc|sA|nt|harmon: then club|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if he had -- i think @D play would work -- if Multon gives @S ruff it is loser on loser and Zim scores natural trump trick|pg||
nt|harmon: then scissors with D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: different route to same position -- i just missed the 1st round duck from dummy|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg||
nt|chorush: Declarer now knows the club ace is right|pg||
pc|c8|nt|dburn: trying to stop club ruffs in dummy, of course - little does he know|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg||
nt|harmon: well done J|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d5|nt|ahollan1: Fantonin in 3@H   so Monaco on the board with nice pickup|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s6|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-32  for half-time scores in all 16 matches|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so sorry -- Deutsch another nice pickup|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: what a friendly layout for declarer -- to go down only 1|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1S97HAK3DT9CQJT874,SKQT8H8754DAQ2CA9,SAJ65432HQ2DJ753C,SHJT96DK864CK6532|sv|b|nt|lc: ANyway, it was nice technique .|pg||
nt|peachy: cookies*|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: connection here is lagging badly|pg||
nt|lc: And I did have a real Aunt Tillie, so I am entitled...|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|3S|nt|lc: North likely to overcall, solving a headahce for East (to respond to 1NT).|pg||
nt|lc: Neg X, P P P is quite possible.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak and michel discussing something I couldnt follow about the last auction|pg||
mb|4C|nt|peachy: Nice of them to allow E to Neg X|pg||
nt|lc: If they play Neg X here (which I believe everyone should).|pg||
nt|peachy: Well, maybe neg X was not on card |pg||
nt|lc: 4@C will not be music to Kranyak's ears.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: michel has to solve his problem first|pg||
mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|lc: Why defend 3@S X if you can defend 4@SX.  I take back all the bad things I was thinking about Deutsch's 4@C bid.|pg||
nt|lc: 4@S WAS music to Kranyak's ears.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: thomas blinks at dummy and whispers "thank you"|pg||
nt|lc: Well, 4@S isn't the worst contract ever.  On some other E-W layout, that is.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: shakes his head|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d3|nt|lc: Declarer will hope to throw 1@D and ruff 1@D.|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|c2|pc|s7|pg||
nt|lc: Very interesting play by Kranyak (I think) -- giving declarer a chance to go wrong.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak:"nice play"|pg||
nt|lc: Good news - bad news.|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|c3|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|d7|pc|h9|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|lc: So, a nice 500 to E-W.  Question is : was it a sacrifice against a making 3NT or 4@H -- I haven't studied it enough to say...|pg||
mc|8|nt|lc: Sure looks like tons of handling in 4@H E-W.  3NT looks doomed.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: EW discussing methods over 3S|pg||
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qx|c23|st||md|1S97HAK3DT9CQJT874,SKQT8H8754DAQ2CA9,SAJ65432HQ2DJ753C,SHJT96DK864CK6532|sv|b|nt|harmon: ok Al no more vodka for you:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: only hearty Zin|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and only to teeth an interesting color|pg||
nt|harmon: sorta boring 3n here|pg||
mb|2C|nt|dburn: still, not a bad result for Campos - Villas-Boas would probably have passed out 2@s anyway|pg||
mb|d|nt|ahollan1: too right|pg||
mb|2S|mb|d|nt|dburn: really?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: really?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry David got there first|pg||
nt|swanson: Not enough spade length for East to open.|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@c= 11-15, 5-4 @C+M or 6+@C|pg||
mb|3C|mb|d|nt|chorush: trouble lurking for NS here|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: in OR S passed, W opened 1NT and N bid 3@s..|pg||
mb|p|nt|warrens:  why pull 2@S X?|pg||
nt|hedyg: 4@C by E..|pg||
nt|chorush: If the spade K is led it will be down 2. Likely down 2 even on heart lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: without interference  2@S was 1-round force|pg||
nt|ahollan1: after the dbl -- who knows :(|pg||
pc|sK|nt|harmon: Im analysing good you would be proud|pg||
pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: Duboin 2N would have been INV -- i wonder how that differs from 2@H|pg||
pc|c2|nt|harmon: still cant type to right window lol|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|chorush: Jonsson is fortunate the the club 9 is doubleton|pg||
nt|hedyg: oh my! Michel Bessis (S) in OR bid 4@S!|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|jfaria:  strange... with N hand I would be happy to transfer and pray :)|pg||
nt|dburn: perhaps he asked his partner whether he had any spades, and then decided to open anyway|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4th seat 1N=15-17  so  Justin showing 12-14  [probably WOULD pass with only 11]|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg||
nt|dburn: mopping of Brazilian brow - East could not have been too keen on the way things were going|pg||
nt|harmon: rpobably lead a spade here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @D9 makes slam sooooo close    but i think best is 6@D EAST|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: kranyak asking questions quietly on his side of the screen|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other room also in 3N -- with Jonsson responding 1@H |pg||
nt|harmon: thats a strAnge response|pg||
nt|ahollan1: establishing game force with 2@C has a lot going for it -- especially when you define opener's rebids|pg||
nt|hedyg: so now it is 4@s X|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|d4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: :)|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d8|nt|Vugraphzfc: Multon asking about clubs 3-3 or a squeeze|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|hedyg: a lot like his 5@d bid on bd 18|pg||
nt|chorush: 4 spades doubled may go a tad better than you think. Guessing -500|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h6|nt|hedyg: why would you bid 4@s over 4@c by E with those @Cs?|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|dburn: the North hand at the other table looks rather more like a pass, but Allegaert fearlessly opened and found an advance sacrifice in 1NT|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|hedyg: you dont like the @c contract?|pg||
pc|hK|nt|dburn: still, no one tested his fortitude by doubling, and down one is not so bad|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s3|pc|h9|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: in college days  Down 1 was defined as GOOD BRIDGE|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|mc|7|pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2SQHQJT96DJT983C64,SKT832HA4DK762C82,S54HK852DAQ4CAKJ9,SAJ976H73D5CQT753|sv|o|mb|p|nt|lc: Tell them that I recommend Neg X's.|pg||
mb|1N|an|15-17|nt|lc: Will E get in?|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: Surely, E-W want to bid 4@S over 4@H.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: asks range and passes|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: The pre-accept has kept E-W out for good.|pg||
nt|lc: Very good "steal" for N-S to buy this without hearing SPADES from E-Q.|pg||
nt|lc: E-W|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: quick passes from kranyak this board|pg||
nt|lc: It is my style to bid with 5-5 white (East) -- as I suspect would be most player's style.|pg||
pc|d5|nt|lc: Kranyak couldn't really ever bid.|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
nt|lc: Unless he opened light with 1@S.|pg||
nt|peachy: Much of the bridge playing world has adopted that style|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: commenting because he seems to offer tells to his screenmate with his mannerisms|pg||
nt|lc: Anyway, if this deal were played at 10 tables, I'd expect E-W to get into spades (4@S over 4@H) at 9 of them.  This is the 10th -- and will almost surely send a swing to Monaco.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: now bouncing his knee, riffling his cards, cracking his knuckles|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|sQ|nt|lc: Some sort of scissors play, it seems -- to prevent @D ruff entries.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: and fidgeting with his quitted tricks after @SQ is thrown|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: holding a card out|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dQ|nt|lc: Declarer could have played @H first.  Then suffer a diamond ruff, and worried about a spade over for another diamond ruff -- if one player had @Hxxx and @Dx.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d3|pg||
nt|lc: Also, if declarer plays @H first and West fires back a diamond, declarer could conceivable go wrong by rising ace (in case the opening lead was from @DKxx.).|pg||
pc|c7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d7|nt|lc: So, I suppose 4@H might have been defeated if declarer took a very wrong view.|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h7|pc|d8|pg||
nt|lc: It was defeated?|pg||
mc|9|nt|lc: What happened while I was typing?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: yes|pg||
nt|peachy: kranyak ruffed the CQ|pg||
nt|peachy: then crossruff|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak ruffed deutsch's CQ, then gave him two D ruffs and scored his HA|pg||
pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2SQHQJT96DJT983C64,SKT832HA4DK762C82,S54HK852DAQ4CAKJ9,SAJ976H73D5CQT753|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Reminds me of the Danish player who passed @SAKQJ109xxx in second seat after pass to his right; and it went all pass. Afterwards he asked his partner if he did not have a light ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: opening in 4th. "I had", he replied, "but I had a singleton spade"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if you want more info on the Rosenkranz convention, note that i mistyped TWICE it should be    CONFIT (CONtrols and FIT)|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: but this is a very good result for Helgemo and Helness|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: majors (NV) I think|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H=6-10 HCP  4+@H & 4+@S|pg||
nt|harmon: par here is 5hX -2|pg||
nt|chorush: Par on this hand looks like 5 spades X -300|pg||
mb|1C|mb|d|an|2 suits same color|nt|harmon: 4n maybe|pg||
nt|ahollan1: big club|pg||
nt|chorush: Dbl is 2 suits same color|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now people telling me BOTH spellings have been used|pg||
nt|hedyg: X= 4+4+ blacks or reds|pg||
mb|1D|an|hearts|nt|ahollan1: 1st/2nd seat not vul  1N=11-13|pg||
mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: 2 or 3?|pg||
nt|harmon: guess not|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW use that 2@H bid only NV    when Vul  2@H = 5+@H & 4+@C/@D|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yes, different according to vul|pg||
nt|warrens:  2 or 3 @D by W now (allowing partner to correct to the blacks)?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D or 3@D??|pg||
nt|warrens:  :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry  Warren got there 1st|pg||
nt|chorush: The tactic of using crash is for responder to bid as high as he feels like in the suit he would like least if responder held that color|pg||
nt|chorush: so here, if opener holds reds, Fantoni would like to get to 3 diamonds. When Nunes corrects, he will bid 4 pades|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: that was then and this is now... down two is customary, and down three undoubled is almost a triumph|pg||
mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|harmon: instead of par monaco scored a birdie|pg||
nt|warrens:  why did N pass over 3@D (or did we miss a bid)?|pg||
nt|hedyg: strange|pg||
nt|chorush: Im not sure. I know I would have bid 3 hearts|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|dburn: tricky, this|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: since 4@h is down on the normal diamond lead from South|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: he did pass over 3@D|pg||
nt|chorush: Specs are asking how 4 hearts fails. I dont know the answer|pg||
nt|hedyg: 5@H is on|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: maybe with min he passes, even with 4 hearts|pg||
nt|warrens:  5@H doesn't make with @D ruff|pg||
nt|hedyg: @D lead beats|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|dburn: and not at all clear what declarer's best shot it|pg||
nt|ahollan1: spot card leads against NT presumably ATTITUDE |pg||
nt|ahollan1: might have selected @S3 instead of @S5 to prevent Sementa from trying to find help anywhere else  |pg||
nt|dburn: he could have succeeded by winning the first spade, or he could have looked very silly by so doing|pg||
nt|ahollan1: of course he knows that holding 13 HCP|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: or Deutsch bogey -- hit into the trap    [oy - sorry about that]|pg||
pc|h2|nt|swanson: Declarer can establish a club for a diamond discard, but no quick entry to use it.|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|hedyg: that should not beat 4?|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|nt|ritong: he has a throw in plan|pg||
nt|dburn: doubtless involving a towel|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right Henri -- that's another option that doesn't work|pg||
nt|ritong: unless brogeland cooperates|pg||
nt|ritong: highly doubtful|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|sT|nt|dburn: now, though, if North shifts to a club...|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|d8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@H North   @D lead  3 rounds of @C  pitching @SQ ruff now TWO @D ruffs|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: i'm ashamed to admit -- i don't remember if Brogeland won Bermuda Bowl with this or a different partner|pg||
pc|h5|nt|harmon: yes but they will bid 5hts so shd be -5 imps|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d3|nt|dburn: ...and reads the count in that suit...|pg||
pc|dK|nt|dburn: ...all of which he has done...|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: great defense|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|chorush: I am informed tht declarer tried a "scissors" coup after getting diamond lead and lost 2 diamond ruffs to east|pg||
mc|9|nt|Walddk2: This|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Helgemo-Helness, Brogeland-Sælensminde, Grøtheim-Tundal|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yes -- great team|pg||
nt|dburn: certainly if Brogeland had @cK, he would (probably) not be able to escape an endplay|pg||
nt|dburn: but he doesn't, so he can|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: fingered @S, then withdrew|pg||
pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3SJ743H932D873C732,S98HAQJ8DAT42CJ95,SQ2HKT64DQJ95CQ84,SAKT65H75DK6CAKT6|sv|e|nt|lc: The Scissors play backfired in a very funny way.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|lc: Well done by E-W to work it all out!|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: And I have to apologize for complaing about them not finding spades!|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|lc: Things are going very well fro Deutsch and poorly for Monaco here...  the things that upsets are made of.|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|lc: I think 2@C was just an "operation" -- not systemic.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: deutsch leans forward and studies the tray|pg||
mb|4N|nt|lc: Maybe East will drive to 6@C -- and West might make it!|pg||
nt|lc: Well, 4NT will let West out.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak made a gesture after bidding 2C that suggested it was possibly manufactured|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: asks michel about the Q lead|pg||
nt|lc: John - you seem to be into "tells"  ! :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: I try to report what I observe when I have the time|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
nt|peachy: The kibs appreciate it, thank you|pg||
nt|lc: we all assumed declarer still has the @DA -- no problem.|pg||
pc|h5|nt|lc: :)|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
nt|lc: Yes -- nice to get the "flavor."|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: lead H5 from table|pg||
nt|peachy: Gives a feeling of being right there tableside|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: deutsch seemed surprised but pulled it and no one objected|pg||
nt|lc: Nice duck by Bessis -- usually declarer has the @HJ for such an early play -- good players son't usually lead up to @HAQ empty so early in the play on this kind of hand.|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s5|nt|Vugraphzfd: now michel leans over the table trying to place @S8|pg||
nt|lc: With the power of the @S8, declarer can now see 10 likely tricks.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: oh bother I miskeyed trick 1|pg||
nt|lc: Indeed, on the previous deal, E-W "saved" in 4@S X -1  -- so 4 more to Deutsch.|pg||
nt|peachy: I would think there is chance for off one|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: it will create a problem later|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: I tried to type a chat message and the interface played DA|pg||
nt|lc: Declarer has 10 easy tricks at the point we reached (4@S, 2@H, 2@D and 2@C) -- no problem.|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|peachy: oh, I got coffee, should be silent if not paying attention :)|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d8|nt|lc: Well, GIB likely didn't think it could make if the @DAK went on the first trick.  :)|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d7|nt|peachy: I thought threediamond and the S and then more|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak mutters something under his breath|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|nt|lc: For those who don't know Seymon Deutsch, this is a "vintage Seymon" set so far.   He is such a nice guy.  Admitedly not at the level of these top players, but somehow he can skate ...|pg||
nt|lc: through a minefield and have sets like this. Sometimes "nice guys" don't finish last.|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|hT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s6|pc|c7|nt|lc: I always had my worst results when playing with "not-nice" captains.  Something just makes you play better and luckier when you have nice teammates.|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3SJ743H932D873C732,S98HAQJ8DAT42CJ95,SQ2HKT64DQJ95CQ84,SAKT65H75DK6CAKT6|sv|e|nt|jfaria:  Covering J@s cant be a winner|pg||
nt|dburn: ...then, declarer will rue what he did, and wonder afterwards whether he was right in percentage terms|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes he tried to disc the Q@S on the J@C cutting communications, but W was awake and ruffed his pd's Q@C to give him a @D ruff|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: this set 23-2 for Strul|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@D maybe??   surely if North was Australian|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S forcing|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: they weren't - this was not a good deal for their methods - Helgemo and Helness were able to judge the auction very well|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we need new saying now that cigars are bad for you|pg||
mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: there's that 1M-2N bid again|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 14+ HCP or could be weaker with 4+@H|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: we can only hope to get explanation of 3@C|pg||
nt|harmon: dont think seymon thinking of bidding:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C game force with @C, BAL or @S support|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@c = gf with @c or balanced or support|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: can they diagnose the @C duplication?|pg||
nt|harmon: slam cant be good unless absolutely magic hand  xxxx Qxx Axx AJ10|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on  8  Fantunes bought the hand in 5@D  - after West Passed and EAST jump overcall of 2@H|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol sry Al|pg||
pc|dK|nt|tlc: Curious in std Lall what 2N over 2@h would have been...max with 3 trumps?|pg||
nt|dburn: not sure the defenders can actually beat this - declarer can establish spades, and then play diamonds|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Neat hand. Diamonds are frozen for the defence|pg||
nt|tlc: however west can rise with the spade K on the first lead and cause a problem|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer might well judge to make this, expecting hearts 3-1 offside.  Establishes spades before trying to ruff diamonds.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and if declarer ducks -- no convenient @H return from East|pg||
pc|d8|nt|ahollan1: does/should  West play @SK 1st round of the suit?|pg||
nt|harmon: so 8 to Monaco|pg||
nt|ahollan1: over move @Sx to @C|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|chorush: Declarer will win diamnd K to take heart finesse|pg||
pc|h5|nt|dburn: no matter - the threat of the established spades in dummy is enough|pg||
nt|ahollan1: looks like best defense = down 2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: over??  |pg||
nt|harmon: that too|pg||
nt|harmon: Multon shd sign off here|pg||
pc|h2|nt|warrens:  .|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|nt|harmon: wrong again|pg||
pc|h9|nt|ahollan1: right  you should have said Multon NEEDS to sign off|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: same start in other room, but Deutsch upped the ante to 4N with Nunes hand|pg||
nt|chorush: Probably win club finesse now|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c4|nt|Vugraphzfc: screen down and Deutsch asking questions|pg||
nt|ahollan1: South guards @S & @D -- but no transportation for squeeze|pg||
nt|harmon: actually without spade return squeeze works|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: King of spades lead would have simplified things|pg||
nt|ahollan1: mea culp ---  @S return breaks up squeeze|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hard to imagine EW doing better than that if declaring|pg||
nt|chorush: with his 9 tricks in declarer will look for overs|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cT|nt|dburn: indeed, and that's a very good result for Campos|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ritong: brogeland wonders what is this @s 7|pg||
nt|ritong: maybe, after all, @ss are not 4/2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: denies holding the 9|pg||
nt|ritong: despite the brave reopening|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe it is upside-down count, just as the four was|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|nt|ritong: justin is supposed to hold 4, mind you|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hang on -- i don't think it matters even if specs telling me @S required|pg||
nt|chorush: A spade would get him 460 but he must take into account that Jonsson has ducked Q's before|pg||
pc|s5|nt|ritong: why would he contribute the 7 with J753 was boye's question imho|pg||
nt|dburn: doubtless he would not|pg||
nt|ritong: thus @ss break|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does the contract have any chance if @S4-2?   now that @SK onside|pg||
pc|s3|nt|dburn: not sure where West found his second double from, and some might have preferred 2@h to his first double|pg||
nt|ahollan1: David -- is your FIRST bid DBL or 2@H?|pg||
nt|dburn: mind you, knowing Lauria and Versace they'll get the East-West cards to 3NT, and make it on a spade lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry you brought that up while i was still typing|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this just seems weird|pg||
pc|s2|nt|dburn: would overcall 2@h for sure|pg||
pc|sA|nt|harmon: It doesnt work dumm has to make 3 pitches|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pg||
nt|harmon: as long as Seymon keeps 3 spades|pg||
nt|ahollan1: only legitimate squeeze maked @S3 the threat|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: rewind|pg||
nt|dburn: sure it does|pg||
pc|s7|nt|ahollan1: both doubles surprised me|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|d3|pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: i guess still preserved chance of @S33 and some squeezes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i was thinking maybe 3 rounds of @S from the top while @C intact|pg||
nt|hedyg: missing the 7@s for that|pg||
nt|chorush: He could only have succeeded double dummy by cashing 2 rounds of spades and a club, then endplaying north|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: too right Hedy|pg||
nt|chorush: North would be down to !0x of hearts and Jx of diamonds|pg||
mc|11|nt|ahollan1: and was never going to double finesse @S|pg||
pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4SKT532HAJ9DA9CT82,S4H753DK65CAKQ763,SQJ76HQ86DQT43CJ9,SA98HKT42DJ872C54|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|lc: Will Kranyak sell?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|3S|nt|lc: You know that i couldn't live with myself if I did. :)|pg||
nt|lc: with the 9th trump, Thomas takes the push.|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: I live for auctions like this (pushing opps fromo 2 to 3).|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: 11 agreed last board, will correct ASAP|pg||
nt|lc: 3 looks like a make, I suppose -- so no big deal.  They will get 90 on instead of 60 on.|pg||
nt|lc: (Rubber bridge joke, which probably many don't get).|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg||
nt|lc: Likely @C, @C, @C ruffed high to start.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c3|nt|lc: the "high" club !3.  But S.P. for @D, I suppose.  :)|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d2|nt|lc: Usually not good to overruff in East's position.  In case West has singleton @S10, for example.|pg||
nt|lc: But, here no harm.  As usual.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak said "can't believe I did that" after not covering the @D5 earlier - watching spots carefully now|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|lc: But the @C3 was "high"!|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
nt|lc: In general, overruffing in such a position (as trick 3) is wrong not only because of promotion pssibilities, but it just makes the timing/tempo so easy for declarer when you do ...|pg||
nt|lc: overruff.|pg||
nt|lc: Anyway, all roads were leading to 140, anyway -- Deutsch survived his @SA overruff.|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|h9|pg||
nt|lc: Declarer doesn't know the @H hook is on, but he has West in a nice position here.|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hJ|mc|9|pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4SKT532HAJ9DA9CT82,S4H753DK65CAKQ763,SQJ76HQ86DQT43CJ9,SA98HKT42DJ872C54|sv|b|nt|rodal f: Hi all:)|pg||
nt|ybob: Hi all :)|pg||
nt|harmon: 26 imp swing|pg||
nt|hedyg: no he wasnt|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: ok  specs were partially right  @S return GUARANTEED beat|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: this could go ALL pass!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other room in 3@S   likely here too|pg||
mb|2N|nt|Jacki: Welcome Bob and welcome Rodall |pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S limited to 15 HCP|pg||
mb|p|nt|ybob: now NS will play 4@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nah Sementa has too many "Pearson Points"|pg||
mb|3S|nt|dburn: never - someone must have some spades|pg||
nt|ahollan1: even if Deutsch thought Multon held 4@C -- was 9 really a stopper??|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: oh wow|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oops|pg||
nt|chorush: this must be a constructive 4 card raise|pg||
nt|hedyg: surely!|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: oops|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|tlc: another Y chromosome dictated NT opening..|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Pearson =  HCP + number of @S|pg||
nt|hedyg: ahhhhhh!|pg||
nt|chorush: very easy to forget things like this, which I assume must have happened|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Joe was toying with us|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: better|pg||
nt|hedyg: that is more like it|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ybob: better than 3NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: having fun Joe?|pg||
pc|c9|nt|rodal f: Roberto who did not belive at me when I invited stars?:) Sr. Privat|pg||
pc|c4|nt|jfaria:  thx for coming and let me watch RM :)|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ybob: :)|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|ahollan1: scores are only posted after end of each 16 board segment:  through 1st half   http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-32|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: 3@C looks like check for 5|pg||
nt|dburn: not sure about this - 3@c might be the dreaded Super Stayman, but that used to be 2@s|pg||
nt|tlc: not the worst 6@h anyone has ever been in..and can be made |pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the extra overtrick on  25 increased Monaco set score by 50%   [all the way up to 3]|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: since he is Swiss.....|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: sorry|pg||
pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: the idea is that with a questionable [keyword] 4th seat opener  you open with 15+ Pearson|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|hedyg: is it just me who finds this painfully slow?|pg||
pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: with fewer the risk is being outbid in @S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i sure hope i got that right  15+ vs 14+ Pearson Points|pg||
nt|dburn: prefer my partner's rule: "you should always open in fourth seat, because if the opponents could make anything they would have opened"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: south never bid in the other room   but i doubt that affects the play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: declarer must be careful to preserve transportation to pull 4th round of trump without having winning @D ruffed|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so @SA must be onside|pg||
nt|warrens:  he should ruff a @C then play Ace and a @H, overtaking the 10|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: maybe just @C ruff, @HA @H10?|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: MEGO     my eyes glazed over|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: hard to pay attn :)|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|s8|nt|dburn: mind you, this deal may not be so great for that theory, or even Pearson's|pg||
nt|hedyg: the sominex coup is working on me :(|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: from my side of the rubber bridge spectrum -- you should always pass 4th seat because then they can't set you|pg||
nt|ahollan1: welcome Warren|pg||
pc|c3|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sK|pc|c6|nt|rodal f: Rest i auto.|pg||
nt|dburn: I suppose GIB would win 13 IMPs against either side by bidding and making six hearts|pg||
nt|warrens:  hi:)|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|nt|dburn: rubber bridge is different - there, you should always pass anyway, because partner will do enough bidding for both of you|pg||
nt|ahollan1: did 1 round of @D gain something?|pg||
nt|harmon: that was dangerous|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|rodal f: ?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nunes lead was @S|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d4|nt|rodal f: No @D?|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i would have no objection to throwing the 9-loser hand -- regardless of Pearsons|pg||
mc|9|nt|chorush: it is being played rather slowly|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: animated talk in Italian|pg||
nt|ahollan1: from which pair    [ba da bump]|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Nunes is upset about something|pg||
nt|hedyg: oy|pg||
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qx|o27|st||md|1SJ94HA764DK942CT8,SKT82HKJT9DAQCA54,SQHQ8D853CKQJ9762,SA7653H532DJT76C3|sv|o|nt|lc: A pushy 4@S for E-W here, unlikely to be reached after 1NT by West.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: on 25, kranyak played HA at trick 12 and I misentered it for whoever was confused|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|3C|nt|lc: Now they discussed this a few minutes ago.  Did they agree to play Nex X?|pg||
nt|lc: If not, 3@C could buy it.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak advocated negX and deutsch seemed to agree|pg||
nt|lc: Or, will East bid 3@S and reach  the lucky 4@S?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: If viewers are wondering why E-W in the Vandy R16 don't have sophisticated methods ---  Deutsch plays a very simple card -- nothing fancy.  I applaud that -- if you can't remember ...|pg||
nt|lc: lots of stuff, then KISS.|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|lc: Wow -- remarkable decision by Kranyak.|pg||
nt|lc: Were there any tempo issues?|pg||
mb|3S|nt|lc: Did tray come to him slowly after 3@C P P ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: If so, N-S might complain.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: thoughtful pass but he is not the fastest player|pg||
pc|cT|nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak: "sorry about the whole thing my boy.  do your best."|pg||
nt|peachy: some slowness is required, I guess it is a matter of degree|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
nt|lc: I would reopen with X with 4=4=3=2 but not 4=4=2=3 -- my partners would always pick 3@D.|pg||
nt|lc: Which is why I sit here typing instead of playing.|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: michel's pass was also thought out|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|cK|pg||
nt|lc: Quite "normal" to guess @S now -- for restricted choice and auction reasons.|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|s5|pc|c8|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h4|nt|peachy: But the world has the pleasure of your commentary, fast, accurate, kind, true world class|pg||
mc|10|nt|lc: That's an overbid, but thanks.   Making more mistakes analyzing than I'd hope I made when playing. :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: said he was taking the @D finesse...|pg||
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qx|c27|st||md|1SJ94HA764DK942CT8,SKT82HKJT9DAQCA54,SQHQ8D853CKQJ9762,SA7653H532DJT76C3|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: sorry 11|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|dburn: striped-tailed ape at the other table|pg||
nt|harmon: spade lead best|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@C=[usually] 14+ HCP, forcing|pg||
nt|hedyg: did he want Fantoni to play a 3rd @c?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: likely|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|dburn: mind you, I'm not quite sure how he made six|pg||
nt|ritong: Q10 and A 10 are attractive holdings to receive the lead|pg||
nt|ritong: and dangerous hold em hands:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: from 2007    Support DBL only thru 2@H|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: Kranyak checking to see all hands from same board|pg||
nt|chorush: I expect Fantoni and Nunes to bid this game and make it, picking up 6 imps|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H=4+@S|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1@H= 0+|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but never fewer than 0|pg||
nt|hedyg: showing @ss|pg||
mb|3C|nt|hedyg: lol no never|pg||
mb|3S|nt|ritong: as geo tislevoll underlines, any hold em hand is dangerous:)|pg||
nt|swanson: This time South holds 3-card support AND a good hand.  Difficult problem now.|pg||
nt|ritong: brogeland would prefer @s x and @c Axx|pg||
nt|ahollan1: of course, playing 4-deal [chicago] bridge   sometimes it is right to open that garbage to "steal the vulnerability"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: notice Duboin did NOT bypass @D to bid that bad 4-card @S suit|pg||
nt|ahollan1: isn't it actually 0-11 HCP?|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: Hi everybody|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ritong: stiff aces are not as pretty as our intermediate/advanced specs might think|pg||
nt|tlc: not sure how they made 6 at the other tbl..|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: newer players think south trump holding GREAT when partner transfer shows 5+ but as you see @SK & @SJ are redundant here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the term often used is  "trump poor"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: stronger hands bid at 2-level|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: short break here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Fantoni not surprised until dummy comes down -- Nunes response to 2N was 3@C|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does anyone remember -- is this [renamed] Zimmermann team intact from last year's win, or did Fantunes replace a different 3rd pair?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: daily bulletins at http://www.acbl.org/nabc/index.php?a=2011&b=Spring&c=daily_bulletins|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm sure one of them lists defenders of all events from last year|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Helgemo-Helness as 3rd pair sounds right|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: back|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ybob: cold 3NT, any def, 1@S work fine here|pg||
nt|dburn: they got a ruff and discard when East was in with @cA|pg||
nt|tlc: well, then.that would do it|pg||
nt|dburn: which allowed them to establish a trick in whichever suit they pitched from the South hand|pg||
nt|ritong: 6 welcomed imps|pg||
nt|ritong: i am asked by several persons, so i try to develop) a bit|pg||
nt|ritong: stiff ace looks cute because it represent absolute control|pg||
nt|ritong: but|pg||
nt|ritong: especially in opponent's raised suit|pg||
nt|ritong: it is not an " active" card|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other room is on final board of the segment [48]|pg||
nt|tlc: well,,then with absolute control and 15-17..no 1NT opening??|pg||
nt|ritong: you have absolute control, but no use to develop tricks with it|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: no time trouble here at all|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks John|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 46 minutes on clock|pg||
nt|ritong: and, even i f i m not fond of hcp scale, a stiff ace is worth 4 points, not more not less|pg||
nt|tlc: with 6 more bds to play this qtr|pg||
nt|chorush: Fantoni will pick up spades even faster than he normally would given North's bidding|pg||
nt|hedyg: i think 11+ is 2 level|pg||
nt|hedyg: and gf|pg||
pc|c3|nt|ybob: hi |pg||
pc|c8|nt|ybob: over 2@S W could bid 2NT |pg||
nt|peachy: West has a little more than can be expected by E|pg||
nt|ybob: super max after the pass over 1@S|pg||
nt|peachy: Pass on 1S was a little conservative, IMO|pg||
nt|ybob: W could bid the same over 2@C with xxx KJ10x  xxxx  xx|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|nt|dburn: well, he seems to have bypassed 3NT because of that bad spade suit|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: since boards are NOT duplicated across matches -- if teams finish early, they can restart early|pg||
nt|dburn: at single dummy, of course, Brogeland isn't cold for five, so he has something about which to think|pg||
nt|ahollan1: typically 15 minute break after final board complete|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 65 minutes for 8  boards|pg||
pc|s9|nt|ahollan1: and all options work since @C & @H both 33|pg||
pc|sT|pc|c2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i wonder if 3@S was a "last train" attempt to get to 3N   or maybe artificially showed @H shortness??|pg||
pc|sK|pc|c6|pc|s5|nt|dburn: maybe Duboin expected Sementa to bid 3NT with his actual hand|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|swanson: It looks like declarer needs either the C!A onside or 3-3 clubs - he doesn't have time to check everything.|pg||
nt|swanson: @CA|pg||
nt|chorush: looks like making 5|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Fantoni asking what 1@C - 2@C by Baldursoon would have been|pg||
nt|hedyg: 4@s + 5@H?|pg||
nt|hedyg: or ?|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d7|nt|dburn: not that 3NT would necessarily have made, of course, but I had expected it to be the final contract|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i wonder what difference Duboin would place  with 2@D vs 3@D rebid from Sementa|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c4|nt|chorush: 5 the hard way|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s6|pc|cT|pg||
mc|11|nt|hedyg: wd|pg||
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qx|o28|st||md|2SKT95HQT98DKJTCT4,S32HJ2DAQ96CAQJ95,SAJ4HK7543D3CK862,SQ876HA6D87542C73|sv|n|nt|lc: It's easier to play 1 hand than all 4!|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: asked how he would cross to his hand said he would ruff @HK|pg||
mb|1N|nt|lc: Sexy 1NT by Kranyak, but I agree for many reasons.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak: "no, you should pass, but when I reopen you could bid 4@S"|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: I can't list all the reasons, but one is that it has nice preemptive effect at these colors.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: I try to be in tempo in the auction but sometimes I am typing|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: pauses may not all be as they seem|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kib recruited to turn dummy|pg||
nt|lc: So, this will pay off some 50's -- but it is N-S hand for hearts, so no big deal.|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d9|nt|lc: I'd think Michel would have played his @D in different order to show @S cards.  Unless the play U.D. S.P.|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: he did|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: DJ was first|pg||
nt|lc: Playing @DK then @DJ would be normal way to indicate @S strength.|pg||
pc|cT|nt|Vugraphzfd: however he didn't let me see it until it was turned|pg||
nt|lc: :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak asks about @S4 discard|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
nt|lc: Really?  A @C? |pg||
pc|d6|pc|h5|nt|lc: So, only 50.|pg||
pc|d7|pc|hT|pg||
pc|d8|pc|s5|pc|c5|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|lc: I wonder what North carding got South to play a @C there. |pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
nt|lc: Wow|pg||
nt|lc: Now N-S have really messed this up.|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s6|pc|h9|nt|lc: North kept the losing @C6?|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sA|mc|8|nt|Vugraphzfd: yes|pg||
nt|lc: Very sloppy by N-S.  This sort of thing can happen when a set is not going well.|pg||
nt|lc: You can lose focus on the little hands.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: and now they are arguiing in french|pg||
nt|lc: 4-letter French words, no doubt.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: deutsch has not returned|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: making 1|pg||
nt|lc: I'm told they are 5-letter words in French. :(|pg||
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qx|c28|st||md|2SKT95HQT98DKJTCT4,S32HJ2DAQ96CAQJ95,SAJ4HK7543D3CK862,SQ876HA6D87542C73|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: and i think they've made the move to Monaco along with Fantunes|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|ybob: E-W 11 tricks any M, N S -2 in 5@D|pg||
mb|d|nt|ahollan1: not  sure if DBL = 4/5@S or 4+@S|pg||
mb|2N|nt|ahollan1: 2N=20-21 HCP|pg||
nt|tlc: they opened 2N in the other room as well:)|pg||
nt|dburn: this doesn't look bad for Lall either|pg||
nt|chorush: Baldurson did well to get his side into the bidding|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but definitely NOT the North American expectation of EXACTLY 4@S|pg||
mb|3C|nt|ritong: this is why saelen opted for a small distortion i guess|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=10-13 not-vul|pg||
nt|chorush: 2NT in competitive auctions to show lim+ 4 trumps is becoming very popular|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: still, if West had doubled 3@c....|pg||
mb|p|pc|c7|nt|ritong: strong three suiters are difficult hands for natural systems|pg||
nt|ahollan1: he thought @C2 was a @H|pg||
nt|reisig: Isn't this a cold 4@s?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i was just thinking -- strange to play transfers over 10-13 opener|pg||
nt|harmon: RR is here!!!!!|pg||
nt|reisig: :)|pg||
nt|chorush: Baldurson would have no clue about whether to bid if his partner could have 3 hearts|pg||
nt|hedyg: X = stolen bid|pg||
nt|hedyg: since EW transfer majors over 1@c opening|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: some who play REAL Multi, include the old Roman 2@D [strong 3-suiter]  but otherwise  good 4441 tough in standard|pg||
nt|dburn: but maybe those mighty heart spots came to the rescue|pg||
nt|dburn: ...oh, OK - he did|pg||
nt|ahollan1: um @D|pg||
nt|ritong: justin will lead a @c, he just checks auction|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: uneven tempo here|pg||
nt|dburn: still, I guess the mighty heart spots may still be enough, but this is going to be a bit fraught for Saelensminde|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|reisig: ahh ..a correction|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg||
nt|chorush: In fact good guessing will make 4|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: notice NS "Responsive DBL"  does NOT show other suits -- the focus is HCP|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|h3|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|ritong: bizarre|pg||
nt|hedyg: i am trying to work out how W in the OR made 1NT if N led his normal small @H lead|pg||
pc|h8|nt|ritong: everybody plays @s Q first, trying to get honest count|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|h6|nt|Vugraphzfc: zimmerman showing kranyak his hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: he must know the other room is 2 boards ahead :)|pg||
pc|h9|nt|dburn: well, not when they need 3-3 spades to have a prayer anyway|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg||
mc|9|nt|ahollan1: and i'm still amazed Kranyak OPENED 1N|pg||
nt|hedyg: but sadly we have no record of bidding nor play|pg||
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qx|o29|st||md|3SJ543HQ854DT5CT32,S6HJ6DAK9832CAK87,SAKQT2HT9DQJ7CQ96,S987HAK732D64CJ54|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: Monaco has their front 4 in for this set, and Deutsch does not -- so the fact that it is 19-2 is remarkable.  But these things can happen.|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: "I really hope he didn't psych me out of a game - you got anything over there? just say no"|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|Vugraphzfd: throws S6 before michel plays|pg||
nt|lc: This should be an interesting match to follow tonight for the final 32 boards. Could easily see the  1 seed knocked out.  (Not to jinx or route or anything).|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: "don't think too long"|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c29|st||md|3SJ543HQ854DT5CT32,S6HJ6DAK9832CAK87,SAKQT2HT9DQJ7CQ96,S987HAK732D64CJ54|sv|b|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 2@D here to show 1-suit @H or @S??|pg||
mb|p|nt|ybob: 4@S defeat only @C lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yep|pg||
nt|ahollan1: from window for the other room   it was 1N-end|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: this looks good for Strul - 3NT not certain to make|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this auction provided to confirm that things really have changed since  2007 Convention Card |pg||
nt|dburn: at the other table West was able to double a conventional 3@s bid|pg||
nt|ahollan1: HH had a great set|pg||
mb|d|nt|dburn: here, I suppose he can double a conventional 1@s bid if that's in his repertoire|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @H lead won, @D to Q  @DA @D  @C to Ace|pg||
nt|chorush: Id be on the move if I were Baldursson|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: THIRD SEAT 1@c MIGHT HAVE WORKED WONDERS|pg||
nt|ybob: now if 2@C Drury fit, S can X|pg||
nt|peachy: Sorry, Caps, oops|pg||
nt|ybob: i like 1@C from S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nunes opened North a systemic 2@S|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ritong: they probably have a general agreement that doubling an artificial bid shows the suit|pg||
nt|dburn: but declarer can still succeed by going up with the queen on a spade lead to a top honor and a low spade back|pg||
nt|kerasidis: known?|pg||
nt|kerasidis: sry|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: mind you, he might not|pg||
mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: then i think defense slipped a trick|pg||
mb|p|nt|reisig: Nice swing here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: showing 10-13 HCP, unbal [6@S or 5@S and not 4+@H]|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: indeed, at the other table he did not...|pg||
mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ritong: 5@d would have been really amusing|pg||
nt|dburn: ...so this is a somewhat fortunate gain for Strul, who would have lost a lot of IMPs if the diamond finesse had been right|pg||
nt|chorush: all roads seem to lead to a push|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|d2|pg||
nt|dburn: or if West had had the decency to have the @s10 with his ace-king for his double of 3@s|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty all for info|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|nt|ybob: 9@C defeat if N has at least JXX @S|pg||
nt|ybob: QX too|pg||
pc|c5|nt|dburn: still, they won't throw it back in the river|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
nt|ritong: now it is stiff K or stiff 109, impossible|pg||
pc|dK|nt|ritong: and see what happens? K drops|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg||
mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfc: 3 more until a dinner break|pg||
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qx|o30|st||md|4SK942HK7DJ75CKJ73,SJ8653H632DQ42CT9,ST7HJ54DAK6CAQ642,SAQHAQT98DT983C85|sv|o|nt|lc: So, Besis opened 1NT with a nice 14 and previosuly eschewed it with a flat 15.  Maybe steaming?|pg||
mb|1H|nt|lc: Or just "upgrading and downgrading".|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: yes steaming after 1NT=, tossed his pen at his scorecard after marking it down|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: michel folding and fanning his cards|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: I see re-enforcements have arrived.  I have to leave -- thanks all for watching.  Gavin Wolpert is stepping in to join the others.  Thank "others," too.|pg||
nt|lc: Bye...|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin:  Hi just in for a few boards |pg||
nt|peachy: THANKS LARRY|pg||
pc|h2|nt|peachy: shouting is required, sorry all :)|pg||
nt|gavin:  Kranyak's 1@S response isnt what they teach in books|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hK|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|gavin:  i think its more normal to respond on hands like this these days|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c3|pc|s8|pc|cA|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|gavin:  the vulnerability plays a big part in the decision|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d3|pc|c7|nt|gavin:  when vulnerable, responding light can get you into a lot of trouble|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|c6|pc|d8|nt|gavin:  however here he isnt vulnerable so theres very little risk in bidding|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d2|pg||
nt|gavin:  and it could easily be the opponents hand for game|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d7|nt|Vugraphzfd: this is wrong..h3 not d3|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: was discarded|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4SK942HK7DJ75CKJ73,SJ8653H632DQ42CT9,ST7HJ54DAK6CAQ642,SAQHAQT98DT983C85|sv|o|nt|swanson: Declarer could have made an overtrick by refusing the diamond finesse, then playing clubs, ruff a heart, and endplay West.|pg||
nt|hedyg: and in a bit over 2 hours segment 3 and 4|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: we will be back at 8:00 local time; 2 hours and 10 min from now|pg||
nt|chorush: a rather short dinner break since play resumes in 1 hr: 42 minutes|pg||
mb|1N|nt|ritong: impossible because west has not more than 13 cards|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: yes john|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: P-P-1@H-2N//  some form of unusual vs unusual?|pg||
nt|chorush: srry, when they are using screens will be 2:12|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and risks a bit less|pg||
nt|hedyg: we give you and extra half hour Ira :)|pg||
nt|chorush: I need it:)|pg||
mb|d|nt|ritong: awkward hand for hemant|pg||
mb|2S|nt|dburn: what he did might work pretty well|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or just 3@H competitive|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or ..... PASS  nope didn't really think about that one|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ybob: hard bid to W  now, pass or X ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: though surely one of his opponents will bid soon...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but Multon's hand really does have great defense rather than offense|pg||
mb|p|nt|ybob: good|pg||
nt|ybob: now 5@D|pg||
nt|peachy: Kib asked what if they didn't bid game after 2C is doubled?  The loss would be negligible 1 imp of they stayed un partscore while 4S making on any other lead would have been big|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: because of suit openings at 1 and 2 level -- 1N covers some shapes that seem foreign to us mortals|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but always 12-14 HCP|pg||
nt|hedyg: Cayne finished already!|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
pc|s3|nt|dburn: ...or maybe they won't|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW 2@D opener is Precision [3-suit short @D] so this is only way to show weak 2  --  unlike NS who use 2@D for really weak and 2@H/@S as constructive|pg||
nt|ritong: nice pot stealing|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: still 15 minutes on the clock|pg||
pc|s7|nt|ahollan1: 2@C-2@D Gazzilli|pg||
pc|sA|nt|reisig: Is this the real bidding?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: it is|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|dburn: Boye must be getting old|pg||
nt|ahollan1: is he in 30s yet?|pg||
nt|dburn: have to start calling him Manne soon|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: i wonder if 3@D specifically showed @S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: it would make sense if Multon bid 3@C as invitational @H raise -- then 3@D also an invite|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Fleisher half-time score posted too|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o31|st||md|1S754H3D87CAJT9873,SJT32HKJ9DAQT9C65,SA86HA7652DK6543C,SKQ9HQT84DJ2CKQ42|sv|n|nt|peachy: One second set result already posted http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|gavin:  wow, suprising pass from south|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|gavin:  Thomas doesn't even know the grief his father has spared him from|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: 4 tables in play 4 finished in this room|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|gavin:  just what you want to hear with north, a 3c opener from partner|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: h3 detached|pg||
pc|s7|nt|gavin:  north south have no chance at beating this due to lack of communication|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak apologizes for dummy as he puts it down|pg||
nt|gavin:  these tens and nines make this hand quite simple|pg||
nt|gavin:  the only thing east will need to be carefull with|pg||
nt|gavin:  is allowing north to establish a long trick in one of the red suits|pg||
pc|s2|nt|gavin:  on this actual hand ew dont even need a club trick|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: thomas studying, still, not much expression|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kranyak again very busy as dummy, moving around in his chair|pg||
nt|gavin:  i predict he plays low|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|gavin:  thought he would think his only chance at beating|pg||
pc|s8|nt|gavin:  was if the 7@S was indeed 4th best|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s6|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
pc|d4|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|h5|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|h8|pc|c8|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg||
mc|9|nt|gavin:  last board coming up|pg||
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qx|c31|st||md|1S754H3D87CAJT9873,SJT32HKJ9DAQT9C65,SA86HA7652DK6543C,SKQ9HQT84DJ2CKQ42|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: in North America i think the convention most similar is "Cole"|pg||
nt|harmon: no|pg||
nt|harmon: ace does NOT work|pg||
nt|harmon: pitches a d on 2nd club|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: most of the matches are still being played|pg||
nt|ahollan1: restart after long dinner break is shown with your local times at http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
nt|hedyg: last 2 boards|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: expecting no drama on this penultimate hand|pg||
nt|harmon: GIB is wrong|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: all head-to-head matches are 64 boards split into 4-16 board segments|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|dburn: passed out? maybe no one had any spades|pg||
nt|chorush: Jonsson's bold V vs NV preempt will win a few imps|pg||
nt|hedyg: S never moved in OR|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Deutsch winning this set 32-9  and picking up more on this board|pg||
nt|ahollan1: match for 2nd half isn't known at this point -- they usually try to show closest match|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Monaco was down 45 in their previous match at the half|pg||
nt|hedyg: comeback power|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: sry, make that up 45 (I had misremembered)|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ritong: excited double, lall|pg||
nt|ritong: but two pots in a row|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: justin "sick even by my standards"|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ritong: heh|pg||
nt|ahollan1: winners advance to the Quarter Final -- losers find a different event or earlier flights home|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ybob: J@D or @S ?|pg||
nt|kamla: Diamond better|pg||
nt|ybob: J@D 85 @S 15|pg||
nt|ybob: %|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ritong: that one might get outta their hands, though|pg||
nt|ahollan1: no ACBL KO events offer a second chance after losing a head-to-head match --  however the Team Trials [run by USBF] to have a playback format|pg||
nt|ahollan1: one Q1 result posted already on http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: 2nd round transfer to show 6th @D along the way|pg||
pc|c3|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he has a shot|pg||
pc|d7|nt|ritong: buffalo?|pg||
nt|ritong: @s jack that is|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
nt|dburn: "all" he needs to do now is guess spades and endplay South in clubs|pg||
nt|ritong: could be a tad more than routine|pg||
nt|dburn: well, not really possible now, but...|pg||
nt|dburn: Brogeland needs to overtake this and play a heart, I think|pg||
nt|ritong: looks like a natural move|pg||
nt|dburn: even if West pitches a diamond, North just ruffs anyway and plays a club|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|nt|ybob: now rpoblems|pg||
nt|ybob: problems|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this won't make|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dK|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|nt|ybob: lost 1@C 1@S 1@D 1@H|pg||
pc|c8|pc|hK|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ritong: whoa|pg||
nt|dburn: backwards and forwards....|pg||
nt|ahollan1: fun hand|pg||
nt|dburn: ...but now Brogeland is genuinely stuck|pg||
nt|dburn: trouble is, that will only encourage Justin to double again next time he has that hand|pg||
nt|ritong: nah|pg||
nt|ritong: he just tried to reverse the stream|pg||
nt|ahollan1: as if going down would discourage him|pg||
nt|ritong: worked|pg||
nt|ritong: so, is ok now|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ritong: you should not consider justin lall as a standard junior, in my opinion|pg||
mc|8|nt|reisig: Next :)|pg||
nt|peachy: standings http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
nt|hedyg: last board of this segment|pg||
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qx|o32|st||md|2SKQ876H82D432CKT8,SA4HQJDKJT96CQ742,SJT52HK743DAQ8C95,S93HAT965D75CAJ63|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|peachy: Thanks kibitzers for your input, and specialthanks to the excellent commentators Larry Cohen and Gavin Wolpert|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|gavin:  ty|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|peachy: scores from all four matches will be available her as soon as they are finished|pg||
nt|gavin:  a good spot for a takeout double from deutsch, |pg||
nt|peachy: http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
mb|d|nt|gavin:  he knows his partner does not have 3@H assuming they play support doubles|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gavin:  looks like theres nothing north south could do, ew was destined for a plus after they bid on past 2@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin:  they will go down a trick here |pg||
nt|gavin:  losing 2@H 1 eventual diamond, 1@S 1@C|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|Vugraphzfd: this is the last table in play. still 14 on the clock|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg||
nt|peachy: They all have heeded the new slow play regulations then :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: evening session begins at 8pm EDT|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: sitting behind michel's shoulder I often cannot see his spots|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: especially when he is fourth to play to a trick|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
mc|8|nt|Vugraphzfd: shrugs shoulders and tosses his losers on the table|pg||
nt|peachy: More in two hours|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: other room has just finished.  shutting down|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: evening session begins in roughly 2 hours|pg||
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qx|c32|st||md|2SKQ876H82D432CKT8,SA4HQJDKJT96CQ742,SJT52HK743DAQ8C95,S93HAT965D75CAJ63|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfc: last hand of first 1/2|pg||
nt|ritong: that s weird indeed|pg||
nt|tomek: trefle 3-3 wyrobione|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16 now showing results from 2 matches -- both close|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is final board of 1st of 4 16-board segements|pg||
nt|hedyg: thank you Joe, great job :)|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ritong: confirmed, operator?|pg||
mb|2D|nt|ybob: easy defeat 3NT with @C lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: during the breaks -- you should check the rest of bridgewinners site -- some great stuff!!|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: last board of the set   ---   usually 15 minute break, but early restart at discretion of teams|pg||
nt|ahollan1: for those unfamiliar with West's opening bid   2@D shows @D|pg||
nt|hedyg: 12-14 (semi)balanced|pg||
mb|2H|nt|dburn: oh, I see - South just returned a club and West got the spades wrong|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: bad mouse |pg||
nt|ahollan1: running totals thru Q3 will show up at  http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-32|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but none posted yet|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: in other room Fantunes 1N=12-14|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3rd set begins in about 3 hours|pg||
nt|harmon: I think Multon shd be penalized|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: no real resolution on the last hand -- director said to play the last board|pg||
nt|harmon: 200 imps|pg||
nt|sharkey: hei bb - hjemme i kveld?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: movie not showing result for  15 -- probably because of director call|pg||
nt|harmon: I agree Carl|pg||
nt|chorush: I think Baldursson and Jonsson have played very well this set and have had good support from Kranyak-Deutsch|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3@c?|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: is this also down 1 or is there 2nd undertrick for defense|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: I guess without the opening bid, this might have gone down - declarer could lose two spades and two clubs on completely normal play|pg||
mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: you wouldn't know it from this auction, but 2@D didn't necessarily promise @H|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|nt|peachy: Two more sets, match us not out of hand for either side|pg||
nt|peachy: *is|pg||
nt|ybob: w has a chance now|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 7:30 eastern|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: seems down 2 most likely|pg||
nt|reisig: Looks more like 100|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h6|nt|ybob: now A @H and @C|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kranyak has 3 things going against him -- no winners, too many losers, bad lie of cards|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|ybob: later squeeze to S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other than that 2@S is fine contract|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pg||
nt|ritong: gling|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: on 47 Boye got out with @CK, hemant did not get @S right|pg||
nt|ritong: yes  okidoki|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: my mouse really unsteady|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks John -- great job|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: don't know what match to be played, closest one is my guess|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: check bridgewinners web site for up to date 3/4 scores|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: cayne match 4 imp difference|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow -- italians had great comeback set|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: robinson match 12 imps, think fred stewart is sick, continued play uncertain|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: he is slowly walking into the room tho right now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: scores slowly being posted on http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-32|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Robinson is playing 4-handed so illness is bad for multiple reasons|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|ybob: suicide squeeze|pg||
pc|sK|nt|kamla: brilliant line of play|pg||
nt|leao: brilliant indeed|pg||
nt|ybob: better cash A@H first|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: oh my -- this is last board|pg||
nt|ahollan1: how did that happen so quickly?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other room is playing  60|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so if you want to got there, please leave in single file|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 42 minutes left on clock|pg||
nt|ahollan1: another great job John --- thanks|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: speed keeps operator awake|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if they haven't run out already -- please thank the players for us|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: sometimes too quick for me tho|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: will do|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: NS really solid here this set|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 2 soft results but 3-4 great results|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3rd result posted   curious that Nickell also has small lead -- i don't think boards are duplicated across matches except for Semi-Final|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s5|pc|h9|pc|sQ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|c3|pg||
nt|chorush: So Deutsch going to take a significant 43 imp lead to the locker room at halftime|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: :) after that statement   Cayne posts score of 40+ lead|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: short break to compare|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks all -- see you in  15 [probably]|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
mc|7|nt|chorush: make that 42|pg||
nt|chorush: 42|pg||
nt|chorush: 41|pg||
nt|chorush: I know I can get my fingers to do what i say if I really try:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|hedyg: time for drinks Ira!|pg||
nt|chorush: only if not planning to ommentate 2nd half:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: i am planning to sleep :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: enjoy the evening all :)|pg||
nt|chorush: I do think tis board is misscored|pg||
nt|ahollan1: restart in a little less than 2 hours|pg||
nt|ahollan1: scores are being posted on http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
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