vg|2011 Vanderbilt R16 A,Segment 4 of 4,I,49,64,Nickell,71,O'Rourke,79|
rs|3CE=,2DNx=,5SN+1,6SN-1,4HE-2,4HE-1,3NN=,4SS=,3NW+2,4SW=,3NE+1,3NE+1,3NS+1,3NN+1,3NE-1,2DW+1,3NW-2,2HE+1,3NW=,4CW=,3NS=,1SWx-1,4HW=,2HW+2,1NE+2,1HE+1,2HN=,2SW=,1NW-2,1NW-2,3NN=,3NN=|
pn|Rodwell,Bates,Meckstroth,Wold,Brink,Zia,Drijver,Hamman|pg||
qx|o49|st||md|3SJT843HAQJ2DQ84CJ,SK65HK873DA93CAQT,SA2HT64DJT762CK63,SQ97H95DK5C987542|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: welcome back to the 4th quarter of this match from the 2011 Vanderbilt|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|nt|bigtrain: meck knows he can get a @S ruff since roddy showed 5...  4 is suit preference for @H|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|c3|pc|s7|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c49|st||md|3SJT843HAQJ2DQ84CJ,SK65HK873DA93CAQT,SA2HT64DJT762CK63,SQ97H95DK5C987542|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|nt|athene: looks like a misunderstanding about the second double|pg||
nt|athene: west just intending it as "extras" and east as a lot more penalty-oriented|pg||
nt|athene: otherwise surely east would be bidding 3@C with that hand|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
nt|athene: well the defence can pull three rounds of trumps now i guess|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|d5|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|d4|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|s2|pc|dK|pg||
pc|c9|nt|athene: at least 2mX= isn't game|pg||
nt|athene: just the 7 imps...|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
nt|athene: eeek|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d3|nt|athene: he has to get these trumps right now|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c4|pg||
nt|athene: but it's not hard to know where the @D9 is|pg||
nt|athene: after hamman ruffed with the king|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o50|st||md|4SAKQ3H2D532CQJT52,SJ75HK6DT986CK876,ST98642HQT4DAKQ4C,SHAJ98753DJ7CA943|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|marlowepi: 1S for me, double likely|pg||
mb|2H|mb|4S|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: pass isn't forcing for them|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
nt|bigtrain: @D lead would be best for the defense...  either ace makes declarer play straightforward|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|s4|pg||
nt|warrens:  this will go fast now|pg||
nt|bigtrain: should be able to make an overtrick now|pg||
pc|s6|pc|h7|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|hT|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|mc|12|pg||
qx|c50|st||md|4SAKQ3H2D532CQJT52,SJ75HK6DT986CK876,ST98642HQT4DAKQ4C,SHAJ98753DJ7CA943|sv|n|mb|4H|mb|d|nt|athene: if south doubles, north might get excited|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: and bid some number of spades|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: opening and closing his hand is Bas|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: He is now doing the thinking man pose|pg||
nt|athene: if you bid 5@S now is that only asking for a heart control|pg||
nt|athene: or is it just a general invitation?|pg||
nt|athene: partner could have a pretty respectable double and you could still be off a spade trick and the @HA|pg||
nt|athene: not easy|pg||
nt|athene: this is why i think it's good to open 4 of a major more often than most people do|pg||
nt|athene: you give the opponents a lot of headaches|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|nt|athene: now south has a heart control AND good spades|pg||
nt|athene: so it will be hard to turn this one down|pg||
nt|athene: since those are the two things that 5@S usually asks for|pg||
nt|athene: on the other hand south hasn't got anything else |pg||
nt|athene: so he might just pass anyway|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Brink now thinking with hands on chin|pg||
mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: @CA lead very bad|pg||
pc|hA|nt|athene: well the defence are ok as long as hamman doesn't try to cash his other ace|pg||
pc|h2|nt|athene: but no reason to do that|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
nt|athene: if north has a club in his hand, this contract is never making|pg||
pc|h7|pc|sA|pc|h6|nt|athene: ok that was cute|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|warrens:  nice play by Zia |pg||
pc|sK|nt|athene: nice play|pg||
nt|jaapfr: y|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o51|st||md|1SQJ8H53DKJT93CQ62,SAT93HKT87D75CT87,SK764H942DA6CJ954,S52HAQJ6DQ842CAK3|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|bigtrain: 2+ catchall|pg||
mb|1N|mb|2D|nt|bigtrain: and often a bit light in third at this color  :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: a bit :)|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: meck's reputation may help him here...  easy to bid a hopeless game when you "suspect" a thrft is occurring|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: theft|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|nt|bigtrain: i suggest everyone take a look at board 50 in the other room...  zia makes a very fine play to beat the slam|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg||
nt|warrens:  well, the slam was beaten as long as Hamman didn't try to cash the @C Ace after the @H ace, but it was still a great play by Zia to induce declarer to ruff high at trick 2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|h8|pc|h9|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg||
pc|dQ|mc|8|pg||
qx|c51|st||md|1SQJ8H53DKJT93CQ62,SAT93HKT87D75CT87,SK764H942DA6CJ954,S52HAQJ6DQ842CAK3|sv|e|nt|athene: the "textbook" example of that particular swindle is when you give false count on partner's AK lead|pg||
nt|jaapfr: hoi william warren gm|pg||
nt|athene: unblocking a king is a bit more spectacular|pg||
nt|athene: hi good evening|pg||
nt|jaapfr: was it here -1 i suppose?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: sorry we were disconnected|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: ty Debbie|pg||
mb|1S!|mb|d|nt|athene: zia might be disappointed to find that swindle was unnecessary of course|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: alert 1 s and alert 2h|pg||
nt|athene: it was still good though|pg||
mb|2H!|mb|d|nt|athene: and psychologically it will be worth a lot|pg||
mb|2S|nt|jaapfr: it will likely still hit the Bullettin:)|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|athene: i really doubt this hand was passed out in the other room|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: we saw 4@H until trick 3|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: that would be a very cautious view from east|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 4@H likely down 1|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: sorry trying to reconstruct the play now|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|Vugraphzfd: Hamman asking questions to Bas|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dQ|nt|athene: you might be able to build a spade trick for a club pitch|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|jaapfr: y|pg||
nt|athene: but i don't see how you can do everything you need to do|pg||
nt|athene: too much work for a 4-4 trump fit|pg||
nt|jaapfr: unlikely S plays @S now which could help declarer|pg||
nt|jaapfr: even down 2 (thought that was impossible here)?|pg||
nt|athene: of course one advantage of reaching a doomed game these days is you know at least they will be going down in it in the other room too :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: small consolation though:)|pg||
nt|athene: brink thinking whether he needs to attack clubs before declarer sets up a spade, or whether he needs to play a trump to stop ruffs, or what|pg||
nt|athene: thin game contracts on 4-4 trump fits are hard to defend because there are many possible lines of defence which could be right|pg||
nt|jaapfr: and he is still thinking:)???|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: will not be able to do will give you the final result of this hand|pg||
nt|jaapfr: pls do|pg||
nt|jaapfr: my quess -1|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o52|st||md|2SKJT432HK765D63CJ,SAQ65HT94DKT94C85,S87HA2DAJ8CAKQ732,S9HQJ83DQ752CT964|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+|pg||
mb|1H|an|11-13 bal or 8+ 5+ spades|nt|bigtrain: 1@H is either 11-13 balanced or 5+@S GF|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|nt|bigtrain: 2@S denies 3@C and shows 5+@S|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cJ|nt|bigtrain: also shows minimum values|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|bigtrain: the rest is natural|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|s2|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|d6|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d5|pc|s4|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c2|pc|d7|pc|h6|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s8|mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfc: for scores in other matches, see bridgewinners.com|pg||
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qx|c52|st||md|2SKJT432HK765D63CJ,SAQ65HT94DKT94C85,S87HA2DAJ8CAKQ732,S9HQJ83DQ752CT964|sv|b|nt|jaapfr: new leader|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S!|nt|jaapfr: 3nt much safer than 4@S here|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: but i think NS might go here to 4@S|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|athene: north will try and play it in 3nt|pg||
nt|athene: south might override|pg||
mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: my fears were right or Debbie is teasing us all:)|pg||
nt|dburn: well, South was wise to override an attempt to play in four diamonds|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: lol|pg||
nt|athene: this will be ok though|pg||
nt|athene: with the @S9 coming down?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: I would never tease|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Zia asking ????|pg||
pc|hT|nt|athene: this will be tick, so 1 imp to level the match|pg||
nt|jaapfr: would you bid 3nt with all these Aces as N or @S?|pg||
nt|athene: well as north i would want to play 3n, with the trick source|pg||
nt|athene: but as south i would want to play in spades because i don't think partner will have tricks without the spades|pg||
nt|dburn: if I knew partner had the jack of clubs, I would prefer to play in 3NT|pg||
nt|ritong: welcome to gavin wolpert|pg||
nt|gavin:  hey|pg||
nt|gavin:  its times like this that its wonderfull the vanderbilt runs so late|pg||
nt|athene: it's a bit fiddly how you play this  - west has a lot of tempi with that trump holding|pg||
nt|gavin:  finished playing the pair game and still get to watch 12 hands in a close match|pg||
nt|athene: he can plod away at a long-term strategy like cutting your communications with dummy for instance|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 1@C 12-14 or 18-20 with 2+@C or 4@C with > 12 hcp bid NS|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 12-14 and 18-20 balanced|pg||
nt|jaapfr: so this was the balanced 18-20:)|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hK|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
nt|dburn: if they play the Polish way, then not only was 2NT 18-20, it also denied three spades|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|h6|pc|c8|pg||
nt|athene: i don't think they play 1@C - 1@S; 2@D the way the poles would|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|nt|athene: 1@C is more natural|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s5|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o53|st||md|3SJ53HQ76DA875C764,SQT74HAJ3DQTCKT52,S986HKT9852D9CA93,SAK2H4DKJ6432CQJ8|sv|n|mb|2H|nt|bigtrain: http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: style thing, 2H vul with bad suit and playability elsewhere not everyone's cup of tea, but we all have individual database that acts as our statistical Muse|pg||
nt|passell: down on heart lead|pg||
nt|passell: meck might lead a spade though|pg||
pc|c3|nt|marlowepi: hi mike:)|pg||
nt|passell: hi|pg||
nt|bigtrain: or a club :)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: hey mike|pg||
nt|marlowepi: hi walter|pg||
nt|marlowepi: & hi specs:)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: marshall|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d2|nt|passell: rodwell wishes he had raised  sirprised he didnt|pg||
nt|passell: surprised|pg||
nt|passell: among others I am typing handicapped|pg||
nt|bigtrain: would have directed the opponents to 5@D|pg||
nt|passell: yes perhaps  still thing roger would bid 3nt|pg||
nt|bigtrain: whew...  i thought i was having problems reading  :)|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dT|nt|marlowepi: low club lead has plus & minus values. danger is more clubs when hearts wanted. very tough hand to lead from. something to be said for hearts after all since it would be a guess ...|pg||
nt|marlowepi: otherwise and after all the 2H bid put thm under pressure so try to reap what you sowed in an optimistic way|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|cK|pc|h8|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h7|pc|h3|nt|passell: he was afraid of running diamonds  clubs was best chance for 5 tricks off the top|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
pc|d4|nt|passell: afraid I would have lead the same|pg||
mc|9|nt|marlowepi: sure, was only mentioning downside|pg||
nt|marlowepi: upside exactly as u say of course|pg||
nt|passell: made 5  not 3|pg||
pg||
qx|c53|st||md|3SJ53HQ76DA875C764,SQT74HAJ3DQTCKT52,S986HKT9852D9CA93,SAK2H4DKJ6432CQJ8|sv|n|mb|2H|mb|d|nt|dburn: this doesn't look a bad result for O'Rourke|pg||
mb|3H!|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: I mean, there are ways to beat 3NT|pg||
pc|d9|nt|jaapfr: but 4@S with @S 3-3 likely makes|pg||
nt|athene: yes i wonder how the play went|pg||
pc|d2|nt|athene: 3nt doesn't look much fun on a heart lead|pg||
nt|gavin:  I've seen meck do that a lot.  Open a weak 2 bid and then lead a different suit|pg||
nt|dburn: I guess it went something like non-heart lead - calim|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|pg||
nt|athene: here we see how going for ruffs can simplify declarer's task if it doesn't net the defence enough tricks quickly|pg||
pc|d7|nt|gavin:  he has done it correctly against me more than once|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|gavin:  live by the sword, die by the sword|pg||
pc|s6|pc|d3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|athene: it's surprising how often going for ruffs only works if you can get *two* ruffs|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c2|pg||
nt|athene: one just gives away control in declarer's side suit|pg||
nt|gavin:  3rd quarter scores www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|mc|10|pg||
qx|o54|st||md|4ST98732H63DK962CK,S54HQJ72DAQ73CQ93,SKQHAT954DJT8C872,SAJ6HK8D54CAJT654|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|d|nt|bigtrain: ahh  the enticement of bidding at favorable :)|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s9|nt|passell: friendliest possible layout|pg||
nt|marlowepi: E may fear honor X of spades with N, clubs and hearts to sort|pg||
nt|passell: probably take dia finesse then club finesse|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
nt|passell: he didnt like losing the heart to north|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c54|st||md|4ST98732H63DK962CK,S54HQJ72DAQ73CQ93,SKQHAT954DJT8C872,SAJ6HK8D54CAJT654|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|2S|mb|d|nt|dburn: I imagine Zia will regard that result as a possible gain|pg||
mb|3S|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s4|nt|gavin:  very difficult hand for hamman|pg||
nt|gavin:  we can see it will make easily|pg||
nt|jaapfr: better  not duck here but very tough to see that for declarer|pg||
nt|athene: not a coded lead|pg||
nt|athene: so hamman doesn't know the spades are so nice|pg||
nt|gavin:  his first decision is whether to duck or win the spade|pg||
pc|sK|nt|athene: with the club finesse into south you would win, if that were the only consideration|pg||
nt|athene: but the missing @HA makes it a bit harder|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|gavin:  if he thinks his right hand opponent will regain the lead, then he cannot afford to win the ace of spades|pg||
nt|gavin:  as he expects the queen of spades to be with south|pg||
nt|gavin:  when north gets in (and south holds the queen) they could play a spade through his jack|pg||
nt|gavin:  by ducking the spade, he takes away that chance|pg||
nt|athene: north might be considering @H10 shift? play his pd for a miracle @HKxx?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: and N knows E @SAJ now|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hK|pg||
pc|hT|pc|d4|pc|s3|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: laughter when the queen falls|pg||
nt|athene: hamman knew the @sQ was probably right as soon as the heart shift came|pg||
mc|10|nt|jaapfr: mb thought S QT9(7th of @S and N K sec why else laughter|pg||
nt|athene: with @SKx(x) north would surely just clear the spades hoping his partner had  a club entry|pg||
pg||
qx|o55|st||md|1SKT2HK6DAJ63CAKQ8,S84HAJ432DQ842C43,SJ63HQ95DKT975CT5,SAQ975HT87DCJ9762|sv|b|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: time for your favorite adictive activity|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|an|no 5, either 4S or no maj|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|nt|bigtrain: 3@C is 5-card stayman|pg||
nt|marlowepi: maybe 3C puppet, 3H says either 4S or 33?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: about 25 people standing around this table kibitzing|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@D says no 5-card M, nothing about 4-card suits|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@H says no 4@H may have 4@S|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|s5|pg||
nt|passell: 9 of hearts in case he had lead from the j10 of hearts|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|h8|pg||
nt|passell: looks like making 4 likely|pg||
pc|dK|nt|passell: maybe 5 as east has 2 tough discards|pg||
nt|passell: 1spade 1 heart is best|pg||
pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h7|pc|s2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|h2|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|c9|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|s9|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c55|st||md|1SKT2HK6DAJ63CAKQ8,S84HAJ432DQ842C43,SJ63HQ95DKT975CT5,SAQ975HT87DCJ9762|sv|b|nt|gavin:  i dont think mr Brink has it in him to only bid 2@S there with 7 spades QT9|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: then he could deduct N had @SKQ agree:)?|pg||
mb|p|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|athene: if declarer knows the match is this tight he might consider playing for overtricks where it isn't totally safe|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Bob asking questions|pg||
nt|athene: assuming you get the diamonds right you can just cash out for 9|pg||
nt|gavin:  the @S8 could be from Q8 , he is not sure that the aq are onside|pg||
nt|gavin:  or a8|pg||
nt|jaapfr: might take the ""wrong"" @D finesse to protect @SK|pg||
nt|athene: playing on the majors might see east win the @HA and west win a lot of spades|pg||
nt|athene: sure it's not likely that west has all the spades|pg||
nt|athene: but in "normal" circumstances playing imps you just don't take these chances|pg||
nt|gavin:  his first order of business|pg||
nt|gavin:  is to figure out who is likely to be longer in diamonds|pg||
nt|jaapfr: y|pg||
nt|gavin:  I think he is taking his time to see if theres some information available to him that can help|pg||
pc|dK|nt|athene: "safety" finessing diamonds to keep east off lead to protect the @SKx isn't safe, though, is it?|pg||
nt|gavin:  and perhaps he felt like losing to west queen of diamonds was better than east|pg||
pc|s5|nt|athene: well he has gone for that anyway|pg||
nt|jaapfr: luckily @HA not wrong place but for declarer this hand a nightmere|pg||
nt|athene: but if you lose to west's @DQ you might still go down if the cards lie badly e.g. heart to east's ace and a spade through|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dT|nt|jaapfr: sure that is the nightmere|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|jaapfr: just pray:)|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg||
nt|gavin:  zia hopes for the queen of hearts in hammans hand|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: bas is showing hand and says you get a heart|pg||
nt|gavin:  hamman should lead the ten of hearts so zia doesnt mess up |pg||
nt|jaapfr: pls specs do not suggest each time a card is played it was the ""wrong"" card|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: says unlucky start of the diamonds|pg||
nt|gavin:  ok or baas can claim|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: partner sorry|pg||
mc|10|nt|athene: not sure i would claim there as declarer|pg||
pg||
qx|o56|st||md|2SQ75HA53DJ986CK93,SAKT3H4DA532CAJ82,S862HKJ8DT4CQT654,SJ94HQT9762DKQ7C7|sv|o|mb|1C|an|strong|mb|p|mb|1H|an|8-11 any dist|mb|p|nt|passell: bates will bid 2spades 4441|pg||
nt|marlowepi: 6-1 fits often play best in ong suit, as here|pg||
nt|passell: likely 3nt|pg||
mb|2S|an|any 4-4-4-1|mb|p|nt|passell: good spade layout but no 3-3 dia|pg||
mb|3H|nt|marlowepi: mike right 3N probable but 4H better chances|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|passell: yes 4 h likely make unless a deceptive spade lead|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|marlowepi: maybe D ace and hearts but D ace big play and should be read as well heeled in the suit. in passing can say odd that 3N gets played from E :)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|c2|pc|h8|pg||
nt|passell: Eddie made good bid 3 hearts says he has 6 good ones with all aces and minimum I think roger might have raised|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|c4|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|c6|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d5|pc|c5|pc|h6|pc|d9|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|mc|8|pg||
qx|c56|st||md|2SQ75HA53DJ986CK93,SAKT3H4DA532CAJ82,S862HKJ8DT4CQT654,SJ94HQT9762DKQ7C7|sv|o|nt|athene: if the defence ducked a heart i might make an extra overtrick|pg||
nt|athene: on a club heart squeeze|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|gavin:  had zia ducked hte queen of diamonds on the last hand it would have gotten very complicated|pg||
nt|gavin:  possibly gone down|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: y could endplay IN N |pg||
nt|athene: 2@D is something strange here?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c7|nt|dburn: no - 2@d is preference for diamonds over spades|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|nt|athene: i just wondered why alerted|pg||
nt|dburn: and to some extent over hearts|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|athene: i'm told 1@S promised an unbalanced hand (and hence of course much more likely to be 5+ diamonds)|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h3|nt|athene: so a bit unlucky for hamman on that front :)|pg||
pc|d3|pc|hK|pg||
pc|c2|nt|dburn: 2@h might be a more comfortable spot, of course|pg||
pc|c5|pc|d7|pc|c3|pg||
nt|jaapfr: so it could be 4351??|pg||
nt|dburn: no - with 4=3=5=1 Zia would bid 2@h|pg||
nt|dburn: either over 1@h or over 2@d|pg||
pc|s9|nt|athene: yes but with that you would expect west to raise hearts first time with min values|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 4261?|pg||
pc|s5|nt|athene: and bid 2@H over 2@D with extras|pg||
nt|dburn: yes, he could have that|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia asking how many tricks do they have|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg||
nt|dburn: meanwhile, what with hearts 3-3 and this spade position, I guess you might even make 4@h|pg||
mc|9|nt|dburn: though you might struggle for control on a club lead, I guess|pg||
pg||
qx|o57|st||md|3SK9832HK4DK63C762,SAQT6H82DT742CKQ3,S74HAT7DAJ95CT954,SJ5HQJ9653DQ8CAJ8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|pc|sJ|nt|passell: looks like down 2 likely|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|passell: even with a spade back rodwell will likely shift to ace and a diamond|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|passell: quicker now|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|h3|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h5|pc|s3|pc|dT|pg||
pc|hA|mc|7|nt|Vugraphzfc: really is a pleasure to watch this -- would be more of a pleasure if it went a little faster|pg||
pg||
qx|c57|st||md|3SK9832HK4DK63C762,SAQT6H82DT742CKQ3,S74HAT7DAJ95CT954,SJ5HQJ9653DQ8CAJ8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
nt|jaapfr: declarer will be pleased with the lead|pg||
nt|gavin:  hamman stuck in the T@S because he wants to lead hearts up to his hand|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|athene: he isn't concerned with trying to get diamonds away fast on spades|pg||
nt|athene: that will likely just run into ruffs anyway|pg||
nt|athene: he wants to get the trumps out the way, since he is (for once) in a sound contract :)|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|nt|gavin:  Hamman's 2@H bid has a lot going for it|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|hT|pc|hJ|nt|gavin:  more high cards than typical, but this is about right on pure strength|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|gavin:  plus if the opponents end up declaring|pg||
nt|dburn: do they play that 2@d would be a worse weak two in a major?|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|nt|gavin:  he has all these wonderfull jacks and queens that they will expect to be in west|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hA|pg||
nt|athene: i thought they were flanneryites|pg||
mc|9|nt|jaapfr: might win 1 imp here to tie|pg||
pg||
qx|o58|st||md|4S7532HK6542DJ9C32,SAKT4HJ7DQ72CAKQT,SQ96HAQ98DKT43C76,SJ8HT3DA865CJ9854|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|passell: likely 3nt by west  dia and spade leads are fatal|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|passell: looks cold if they guess it with any lead except unlikely heart honor as the suit blocks|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s3|mc|9|pg||
qx|c58|st||md|4S7532HK6542DJ9C32,SAKT4HJ7DQ72CAKQT,SQ96HAQ98DKT43C76,SJ8HT3DA865CJ9854|sv|b|nt|gavin:  nickell has a small swing coming from board 56|pg||
nt|gavin:  so they will be in the lead before that happens|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Zia is wondering around the room -- Brink tells him to come back and play  -- some laughter|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|3C!|nt|athene: NS might get themselves doubled if they bid too many hearts here|pg||
nt|athene: but perhaps hard for EW to double without trump tricks|pg||
nt|gavin:  Its very important with souths hand to pass here|pg||
nt|gavin:  since you only have 4 points, either west or north has a strong hand|pg||
nt|gavin:  if you freely bid 3@H here, even when you are correct, your partner will take you too seriously|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Zia thinking|pg||
mb|3D|nt|jaapfr: he listened and passes:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|nt|athene: he wants to hear 3@H so he can bid 3nt|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: Zia snaps pass card disappointed that Bob could only bid 4|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Bob says some good some not so good|pg||
pc|c6|nt|dburn: may be disappointed that Bob couldn't bid three again|pg||
nt|jaapfr: ányway 4@C spot on|pg||
nt|gavin:  with good diamonds drijver decided to lead passively , not fearing the major suit losers dissappearing|pg||
nt|athene: do you have to ruff the @SQ down for a heart pitch?|pg||
nt|athene: or is there something better?|pg||
nt|dburn: well, spot on with this lead - not so spot on if North had chanced to lead a heart|pg||
nt|gavin:  drijver expects dummy to hit with weakness in both majors|pg||
nt|gavin:  since east could have bid 3@H or 3@S in an effort to reach 3NT|pg||
nt|gavin:  he was unaware which major was zia's problem for 3NT|pg||
nt|gavin:  so he elects not to gamble |pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg||
nt|dburn: oh, sure - I didn't expect him to lead a heart, or anything but a club|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h3|nt|athene: if it was spades, though, that would give south @SAK, so maybe hearts is the % weak spot|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|athene: if you assume EW do have one major totally wide open|pg||
nt|athene: but i agree leading a heart can just give the contract so many times, a trump looked normal|pg||
nt|dburn: 2@d on the 4-3 fit was good enough for 4 IMPs to Nickell|pg||
nt|athene: are there any sort of extra board things if the match is very close?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: down in @H??|pg||
nt|dburn: when Wold and Bates tried 3NT, down, rather than 4@h|pg||
nt|athene: or is 1 imp a win?|pg||
nt|dburn: one is enough|pg||
nt|dburn: indeed, 0.1 is enough if the Director imposes some adjustment or other|pg||
nt|athene: zia going for the psychological line|pg||
nt|athene: i'm told 7 extra boards if a tie|pg||
nt|dburn: he's not doing anything psychological particularly - maybe he can endplay North|pg||
nt|jaapfr: if N sees pd with @HK (no 3nt bis W) he plays x@H for @D switch i think|pg||
nt|dburn: "psychological" would be a low spade to the jack|pg||
nt|athene: well he did have the option of ruffing a spade to drop the queen|pg||
nt|dburn: he still does|pg||
nt|athene: and then throwing a heart from dummy on his @S10|pg||
nt|athene: yes but now he has let the defence cash two hearts|pg||
nt|jaapfr: a spec says S had to play @HK direct based on the same reasoning ( W not 3nt)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: lots of thinking sigh by Bas|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: he keeps playing with card|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg||
nt|jaapfr: so i think that is the worry of N|pg||
nt|jaapfr: if my pd had @HK why he did not play it direct|pg||
nt|athene: i still think there was an element of psychology in the way zia played this|pg||
nt|athene: he was just relying on the fact that south would not take his honour|pg||
nt|athene: and he was known to have the king probably from the opening lead|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: okay lost the play they did it so fast now|pg||
pc|s9|nt|gavin:  4@C making or not will be a loss for the Nickell team|pg||
nt|nkgupt: if the @sq was comming 3rd he was always cold...now playing ak@s and letting N hold @sq discarding a @d|pg||
nt|gavin:  ew have bid 3NT and got a diamond lead from the king|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: making there was an easier way to do this says Zia and now all are laughing|pg||
mc|10|nt|jaapfr: only (lol) let it ride to the Q and claim 9 tricks in 3nt|pg||
pg||
qx|o59|st||md|1STHAT7DKJT3CQJT87,SKJ973HQJ8DQ2C654,SAQ842HK53D876CK3,S65H9642DA954CA92|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|passell: just another victory for the strong club|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|passell: a  transfer to 3nt|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: the hand is worth a 2NT opener so i'm not sure how strong club effects anything|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|passell: dont under stand not going for penalties|pg||
nt|passell: wrong queen |pg||
nt|passell: he has more masterpoints than me so I cant argue|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: like this one better|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: sorry, mis-saw it|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|passell: will need great guessing now|pg||
pc|c6|nt|passell: will have to block the hearts|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
nt|passell: they play rusinow so he might get it right for sure|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg||
nt|passell: well done|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|hT|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c59|st||md|1STHAT7DKJT3CQJT87,SKJ973HQJ8DQ2C654,SAQ842HK53D876CK3,S65H9642DA954CA92|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gavin:  king of clubs lead will be best against 1@S X|pg||
pc|cK|nt|dburn: Drijver out for blood|pg||
nt|dburn: may spill some, too|pg||
nt|athene: need 3 down; must have game on|pg||
nt|jaapfr: but will they bid 3nt here?|pg||
nt|gavin:  looks doable, north is entitled to 3 natural trump tricks, plus one heart ruff |pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
nt|gavin:  (they can get hte heart ruff by discarding a heart on the 3rd round of clubs)|pg||
nt|athene: three small in opener's suit proves a bad holding for the overcaller once again|pg||
nt|dburn: will Meckwell bid 3NT? is the Pope a Catholic?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: may be yes:)|pg||
nt|gavin:  however they must play a diamond through before taking the heart ruff, as declarer would use the 13th heart to pitch a diamond|pg||
pc|c3|nt|gavin:  compressing the diamond loser with one of the trump losers|pg||
pc|cA|nt|jaapfr: as reply to yr 2nd question:)|pg||
pc|c8|nt|athene: meckwell will open south 1@D not 1@C of course, which makes the penalty pass fractionally less appealing, maybe?|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|athene: since north has more length in the bid suit|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia asking discards|pg||
nt|gavin:  south's club was suit preference for diamonds i imagine|pg||
nt|gavin:  since south knew that north was leading from shortness|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|nt|gavin:  and north knew that south knew because declarer ducked (therefore south has the queen)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: anyway a new leader expected after this board|pg||
nt|gavin:  so i expect a diamond from drijver |pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|gavin:  and the rest plays itself, an easy discard of a heart for north on the club|pg||
pc|c4|pc|d6|pc|c9|pg||
nt|gavin:  or not so|pg||
nt|athene: this will work too; north just has to avoid getting endplayed, and south still has an entry with the heart, so there is no problem|pg||
nt|dburn: he can discard anything - as long as he doesn't pitch a trump, he should be OK|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d7|nt|dburn: but not now|pg||
nt|jaapfr: they do anything you ask (roughly same age as NS Gavin:)? |pg||
nt|gavin:  now overtake in dummy and lead a heart ?|pg||
nt|athene: the defence just had to make use of south being on lead, and playing another diamond wasn't really doing that|pg||
nt|athene: i think south expected that north would have a doubleton diamond|pg||
nt|jaapfr: aha they failed here once to listen (at least Bas did)|pg||
nt|athene: and hence would be ruffing this trick|pg||
nt|athene: since north shifted to a BIG diamond from three small|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg||
nt|athene: leading high from three small is just bad because partner gets the count wrong|pg||
nt|athene: well in my experience this happens a lot|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|athene: a kibitzer suggests north could have tried MUD in diamonds|pg||
nt|athene: i.e. lead middle card to try to deny an honour but then follow with the higher one to deny a doubleton|pg||
nt|jaapfr: y would work fine then |pg||
nt|athene: i prefer just lead low from three to say you have three|pg||
nt|athene: but of course it all depends on circumstances|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Zia asks if he has 4 tricks and Bob says yes and laughter and then says really only 3  I can't make more says Zia|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Zia talking to himself and claiming|pg||
nt|athene: zia seems to rely on other people a lot to tell him how many tricks he has :) this will prove a weakness if he runs up against unscrupulous opposition, one feels|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o60|st||md|2SA86HQTDQJ9CQJT62,SQTHKJ765DK8CA973,S975H432DA542CK54,SKJ432HA98DT763C8|sv|n|nt|bigtrain: not sure why he wouldn't run his winners and squeeze W|pg||
nt|bigtrain: or did they play a spade back?|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: ok...  blame it on splitting attention with basketball again  :)|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|passell: I think 1 spade dbld was dow 2 at the other table not 1 as reported  down 2 was quite a feat|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|passell: 4 hearts looks like it will make here|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|nt|passell: this looks like 6 to orourke if he makes it|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sT|nt|passell: if they win 2nd spade and shift to dia he will have to not finesse the heart a possible pitfall|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|passell: no not possible he knows spades are breaking|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|passell: a real nail biter here|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h7|mc|10|pg||
qx|c60|st||md|2SA86HQTDQJ9CQJT62,SQTHKJ765DK8CA973,S975H432DA542CK54,SKJ432HA98DT763C8|sv|n|nt|dburn: down one? good claim|pg||
nt|dburn: but down two more likely|pg||
nt|athene: ONE down we don't believe|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: ? it was quaranteed -2|pg||
nt|imp_jan: think it's down two|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|jaapfr: oh yes the Pope is catholic|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: morning europe btw and the rest of the folks|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: they all claimed down one|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
nt|dburn: then down one it is... at least for now, but....|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|jaapfr: or he played @S and N not returning @H then -1 but can not believe that|pg||
pc|s8|nt|imp_jan: 2,5 brd to go|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o61|st||md|3SQ54HQT875DQ95C32,SKJT2H2DT74CJT975,S9873HAKDK62CQ864,SA6HJ9643DAJ83CAK|sv|b|mb|1D|nt|bigtrain: i'm pretty sude that nickell has 4 fewer IMPs than scored here|pg||
nt|bigtrain: sure|pg||
mb|1N|nt|bigtrain: i think the correct score is nickell 102 o'rourke 104|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h8|pc|cT|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sK|mc|9|pg||
qx|c61|st||md|3SQ54HQT875DQ95C32,SKJT2H2DT74CJT975,S9873HAKDK62CQ864,SA6HJ9643DAJ83CAK|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: this may not be East-West's best spot|pg||
mb|p|nt|imp_jan: ínteresting that Hamman overcalled 1@H and not 1NT f.i.|pg||
pc|d5|nt|dburn: Hamman could have tried 1NT rather than 1@h|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|dburn: but that wasn't ideal - could miss game on a 5-3 heart fit very easily|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|nt|dburn: still, he has a lot of trump losers, but he may have enough stuff anyway|pg||
pc|d2|nt|jaapfr: no blood here|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|c5|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cK|nt|jaapfr: 2@S 2@C and 1 other trick in @H is minimal made\|pg||
nt|gavin:  declarer will now take a spade ruff and his club winners and exit with his diamond endplaying south|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|h6|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h8|nt|gavin:  the first trick in hearts told hamman everything he needed to know|pg||
nt|jaapfr: wd|pg||
nt|dburn: tiem to ask how many tricks he has got|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 8|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o62|st||md|4SA86HK83DAQ3CT943,SJT3HJ76DKT62CAJ2,S974HAQT54DJ8C865,SKQ52H92D9754CKQ7|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: finals are being posted at http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|s2|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c62|st||md|4SA86HK83DAQ3CT943,SJT3HJ76DKT62CAJ2,S974HAQT54DJ8C865,SKQ52H92D9754CKQ7|sv|o|nt|imp_jan: wow bates-wold bid and made 4@H on 60|pg||
nt|imp_jan: very very close match still|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: 21 count and 5-3 fit, that is going some|pg||
mb|1C|nt|dburn: indeed they did - could be rather important, that one spade doubled|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: it remains extremely tight with 2 boards to go|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|nt|athene: there's no redress for incorrect acceptance of claim even after the board is over is there?|pg||
nt|dburn: yes|pg||
nt|athene: let alone after the set is over|pg||
mb|r|nt|athene: oh ok|pg||
nt|dburn: even then|pg||
mb|2D|mb|2H|nt|gavin:  i expect a 2@S bid by zia|pg||
nt|dburn: they have until the end of the Correction Period (usually 30 minutes after the end of play)|pg||
nt|imp_jan: rdbl = 3@h|pg||
nt|gavin:  i think he will not sell out to 2@H|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gavin:  this looks to be a pretty good spot, typically 4-3 fits are worse when the opponents can force you to ruff with your 4 card suit|pg||
nt|athene: NS should know this is a 4-3 fit because with four spades zia would have bid them first time|pg||
nt|gavin:  here it doesnt cause much concern with trumps breaking|pg||
pc|c5|nt|athene: getting forced in the long trump holding is only bad if you really fear losing trump control|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i still believe that with the last 4 tricks left W played @S and N returned @S (easier to believe 1 player did something wrong then that 3 players were wrong about the claim)|pg||
nt|athene: and that is only bad if you have some big side suit you need to cash|pg||
nt|jaapfr: b59|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia says solid and then thank you and lead in partners suit is ?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: they all agreed to claim|pg||
nt|athene: often at a low level you can just go with it if they force you, and scramble a healthy number of tricks|pg||
pc|cK|nt|gavin:  these guys have a lot of experience playing in 4-3 fits, two of the best in the game at it|pg||
pc|c3|nt|Vugraphzfd: thanks|pg||
nt|athene: well hamman used to play 4-card majors|pg||
nt|athene: so clearly he has had a lot of practice|pg||
nt|gavin:  yeah and they are both rubber bridge players|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|d4|nt|gavin:  where 4-3 fits are a luxury|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg||
nt|athene: i remember a system called "simply blue" which was a variant of blue club|pg||
nt|athene: that unerringly found 4-2 fits|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s2|nt|athene: opps could never get into the auction because they were never short in your suit|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s3|nt|jaapfr: ok specs I surrender about b59 so only logical explanation is that Zia mesmerized them all in accepting the -1 claim:)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: just in case they break and sjoert says they have to|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|sK|pg||
nt|jaapfr: if mesmerized is correct English|pg||
nt|athene: 8 3nt contracts in a row in the other room|pg||
nt|athene: i wonder what the record is for that|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c4|nt|dburn: irritating for Brink|pg||
pc|cJ|mc|8|nt|gavin:  well done funny end position|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i heard today that the Pope always plays 3nt:)|pg||
nt|gavin:  final scores have begun being posted www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
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qx|o63|st||md|1SA986HKJ9DQ93CK87,SQT5H543DA765CA65,SJ2HT76DKT4CT9432,SK743HAQ82DJ82CQJ|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfc: next to last board -- thanks for watching and thanks to commentators -- big thanks to the players for a great show|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|Vugraphzfc: i have not way of knowing if the posted score is correct -- it is certainly not official and there is a question about bd 59 in the other room|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h2|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s5|pc|h6|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|s9|pc|h3|pc|d4|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c9|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c4|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg||
mc|5|pg||
qx|c63|st||md|1SA986HKJ9DQ93CK87,SQT5H543DA765CA65,SJ2HT76DKT4CT9432,SK743HAQ82DJ82CQJ|sv|n|nt|imp_jan: poss small swing as medkwell play 2@H |pg||
mb|1C|nt|athene: 2@H-1 i guess?|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|d|nt|athene: will zia try another 3-card major bid here?|pg||
nt|dburn: 2@H might have been beaten on a black-suit lead, but Wold reasonably chose a diamond|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: or will he bid an honest notrump?|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: ok, he doesn't have to decide|pg||
nt|imp_jan: 1@D = 0-6 hcp|pg||
nt|jaapfr: oeff 2@H AND 2@S made at 62|pg||
nt|athene: and west finessed against dummy|pg||
mb|p|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
nt|dburn: that gave Meckstroth a tempo, and his eighth trick before the defenders could get six|pg||
pc|c7|nt|jaapfr: not likely to lose 7 imps here|pg||
nt|athene: it wouldn't matter anyway with a spade going away|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h2|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s4|nt|jaapfr: so the winner is for more than 90% sure: Zia cs|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|h7|pc|sK|pg||
nt|jaapfr: and if claim of 59 would be corrected the score after 62 is 109-109:) correct??|pg||
nt|dburn: well, technically the winner is (probably) Nickell, but of course we all know who really won|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
nt|jaapfr: pls inform us : is it sure the claim can not be corrected after the match??|pg||
pc|d3|nt|dburn: I do not know what regulations the ACBL have in place regarding a correction period|pg||
nt|athene: it can be|pg||
nt|dburn: the Law requires 30 minutes at least|pg||
nt|gavin:  i dont think it would get down to a rulebook with these guys|pg||
nt|dburn: I am sure it would not|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c9|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|hQ|nt|jaapfr: 105-108 even after correction are telling me more than 5 specs so you must be rite after 62|pg||
nt|dburn: but technically, there can be an adjustment after the end of the match, yes|pg||
nt|jaapfr: y specs rite -2 results in -3 imps instead of 7 so indeed 105-108|pg||
mc|5|nt|jaapfr: ok hurry to other room:)|pg||
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qx|o64|st||md|2SJ6HK8DK9875CKQJT,ST92HJT953DT3C652,SQ73HAQ76DAQ64C74,SAK854H42DJ2CA983|sv|e|nt|bigtrain: if there was a scoring error on board 59...  nickell has a 1 IMP lead right now|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: spmebody misclaimed again...  it looked like -1 not -2|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s5|pc|cT|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
nt|jaapfr: mb we had a wrong claom on b59 but even if corrected the score remains same winner with 108-105|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|c3|pc|d7|nt|bigtrain: the problem is it appears that 64 is incorrect also|pg||
mc|9|nt|jaapfr: why?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: result should be -1 rather than -2 if played as shown|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 63 sorry|pg||
nt|athene: you don't mean 64 do you? that is this one|pg||
nt|athene: ah ok|pg||
nt|chorush: looks like still 1 imp to nickell|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: i checked withthe players re bd 63 -- they said down 2|pg||
nt|jaapfr: only 2 imps so winner is Zia cs:)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: if everything is as it appears...  nickell +1... but everything not officialuntil comparasion|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: i'll stay here until there is an official score|pg||
nt|jaapfr: was a thrilling match and very enjoyable:) was fine we could follow it at BBO|pg||
nt|dburn: if the official score proves to be a tie, you may have to stay longer than that, of course|pg||
nt|bigtrain: final scores can be found at - http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yes, that is official (at least I got "lost by 3" from Eddie Wold) -- really too bad someone had to lose that one|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: thanks all and good night from Louisville|pg||
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qx|c64|st||md|2SJ6HK8DK9875CKQJT,ST92HJT953DT3C652,SQ73HAQ76DAQ64C74,SAK854H42DJ2CA983|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1S|nt|dburn: well, you might want to watch the last board in this one first|pg||
nt|gavin:  we had a nice discussion on our site which lead to the following article about how involved vugraph commentators should be in the accuracy of results. http://bridgewinners.com/jason-feldman/321-instant-replay  |pg||
mb|2C|nt|gavin:  operators rather|pg||
nt|jaapfr: forgot b64|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: just looking at the diamond suit here you should cash the king first as you can pick up 4-0 with west but not east|pg||
pc|sK|nt|athene: but entries are (as usual) a bit of a problem for considerations of that nature|pg||
pc|s6|nt|imp_jan: NEXT :)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s7|pg||
nt|athene: hard to see a swing on this board|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s2|nt|jaapfr: unlikely b64 generates anything else but a push (agree?)|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|s5|nt|jaapfr: so tx all bye|pg||
pc|cT|pc|sT|nt|athene: thanks all|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c3|pc|dK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d9|pc|c6|pc|d4|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d8|pc|hJ|pc|c7|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h6|mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfd: bye from Louisville thanks to BBO and Jan Martel and the USBF for allowing us to broadcast the 2011 Vanderbilt  see you all tomorrow for the Round of 8|pg||
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