vg|2011 Vanderbilt R8 A,Segment 2 of 4,I,17,32,Nickell,18,Fleisher,38|
rs|6SW-2,6SW-1,3NN+3,3NS-1,2NN=,3NN-1,4SN+1,4SN+1,6HW+1,6HW+1,3NW+2,5DE+1,4HE+1,4HE+1,5CE-1,5CE-1,3SW-2,4CN-1,5CWx-1,6CWx-2,2CN-2,2NW=,6HW=,6HW=,4CE=,4CE=,1NW+1,4SW=,6DW=,3NW+3,3NN-2,5DN=|
pn|Rodwell,SWeinstein,Meckstroth,Levin,Martel,Nickell,Stansby,Katz|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3SJ876H6DKT8732CT4,SAKQ32HQ8DA64CAKJ,STHKJ973DJ95CQ972,S954HAT542DQC8653|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: rehi folks|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|imp_jan: 2 of the worlds best pairs..|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|nt|imp_jan: dbl?|pg||
mb|d|mb|2S|nt|imp_jan: some problems in 4@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|nt|imp_jan: but still made|pg||
mb|p|mb|4N|nt|imp_jan: some slam exploration splintering in @d|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|an|1|nt|imp_jan: danger zone coming up|pg||
mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|mb|6S|an|no K|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: 4@d looks a little stretched, but to be fair 6@S is not ridiculous|pg||
pc|sT|nt|imp_jan: now we see the bad trump break, otherwise..|pg||
nt|vugraphzfg: Live streaming of this table at www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion|pg||
nt|vugraphzfg: Hmm, the picture on the webcam is not very good.|pg||
nt|imp_jan: the lead is less surprising as it may look like after the lead diretcing dbl (due to the splinter)|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sK|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|s5|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|s9|pc|d8|pg||
nt|imp_jan: declarer will be very  disappointed to notice spades 1-4 (he had good hopes)|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|sA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|d7|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|h6|pc|s2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|mc|10|nt|rhelle: zit'ie er nog in?|pg||
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qx|c17|st||md|3SJ876H6DKT8732CT4,SAKQ32HQ8DA64CAKJ,STHKJ973DJ95CQ972,S954HAT542DQC8653|sv|o|nt|yuval10: very close match so far|pg||
nt|brolucius: I heard about a great defense from Zia this morning. His partner, who had opened 4H led the @HA against a slam. Dummy went down with a singleton and Zia false-carded the @HK from ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: @HK-x. Declarer ruffed the next round high from A-K-Q-x and Zia's J-x-x in trumps was promoted. Brilliant!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: eventually the scores from all matches will show here : http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-8|pg||
mb|3D|nt|yuval10: already some excitement, 6@d was made in the OR|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: some commotion as other tables restart|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Moss still studying.  deck may seem to have too many points in it|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hamman had only a sevn-card suit but it might easily have been 8-card.|pg||
mb|d|nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann asks about 4D.  Gitelman writes: "I think splinter"|pg||
mb|4D|nt|yuval10: 5NT is interesting, of course in standart bridge it means to pick between 6 or 7, but it doesn't seem likely considering West' strength|pg||
nt|dburn: I guess North might bid 4NT|pg||
nt|brolucius: West leaps to 4@S rather than tip his hand with a cue-bid response. Interesting. He makes life more difficult for N/S that way.|pg||
nt|dburn: intending to convert clubs to diamonds to show 6-4|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: with 5-5, he would bid diamonds at once|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann exhales deeply. looks tired|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|vugraphzfe: green cards placed delicately on the tray|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar sees them when the tray comes back, puts his cards down and his hands to his temples|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: nice easy board to start the set|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar leans back, crosses his legs, still thinking|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is great to see the top stars bid these competitive deals - a very difficult area for most of us.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Grue's strength limited by failure to open Precision @C|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: fingering @DA and @DQ|pg||
nt|ritong: +|pg||
nt|dburn: as it is, diamonds may play better than hearts|pg||
mb|4S|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "sorry if this was wrong"|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: 6@d actually a lot better than 6NT, you can make it even when the K@h is off ( playing small @s from hand towards the Q, then if south doesn't jump you discard the K@s over the 4th ...|pg||
nt|yuval10: @c and if he does you can discard 2 @h's )|pg||
nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/lauria-versace.pdf|pg||
nt|dburn: but both contracts have issues of trump control|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Lauria is asking about 4nt|pg||
nt|hedyg: to watch multiple tables: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|dburn: not Blackwood|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi Liz :)|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|nt|chorush: Hello everyone|pg||
mb|6S|nt|hedyg: he needs an entry to his partners hand to beat this|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: no he doest|pg||
nt|hedyg: doesnt|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he has three top tricks - the club ruff is for down two|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes|pg||
nt|dburn: although I guess that after the ruff, Grue can pick up the hearts|pg||
mb|p|nt|Jacki: welcome Ira chorush|pg||
pc|d5|nt|brolucius: Spade switch is clear, but West can give a suit preference card anyway.|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|nt|yuval10: here you have to rely on the @h finesse, but it worked so 2 imps for diamond |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Moss that 5N was pick a slam,  Gitelman thought it was choose 6 or 7|pg||
nt|yuval10: hi Joanna, thanks |pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|chorush: This is an agressive 6 spade contract which might make on a good day, which this is not|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d9|nt|dburn: whether he will or not is another matter|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg||
nt|ritong: it was not, as 5@d is a make|pg||
pc|d6|nt|dburn: if he ran the jack of hearts and lost to a stiff queen, he would go down an awful lot|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s9|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|s7|pg||
nt|ebrok: Alle for højt i 6 sp|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s2|nt|chorush: fight is now about 2 imps that katz might win for his team for down 1|pg||
pc|h9|nt|jillan:  Katz, isnt Nick playing|pg||
nt|chorush: yes nick, sorry|pg||
pc|c5|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|c7|nt|chorush: wd for 2 imps|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o18|st||md|4SQJ5HK93DAJ54CA75,ST432H5DT9872CT82,SK876HAQ74DK63CQ3,SA9HJT862DQCKJ964|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|d3|pc|c6|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c18|st||md|4SQJ5HK93DAJ54CA75,ST432H5DT9872CT82,SK876HAQ74DK63CQ3,SA9HJT862DQCKJ964|sv|n|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "good pass of 5@C"|pg||
nt|ritong: and an other strret fight coming|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman: "I have to admit it occurred to me you were psyching there"|pg||
nt|hedyg: picked up the Q@H?|pg||
nt|dburn: but judging by that, he did well|pg||
nt|brolucius: A splendid opening board for us.|pg||
nt|wstuart: Hi all.|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: hi Wayne|pg||
mb|1N|nt|yuval10: NS in the OR judged very well to bid to the 5 level|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|brolucius: We are all indebted to BBO for letting us watch these top tournaments free of charge. I hope they don't change their mind one day...|pg||
mb|d|nt|yuval10: EW put maximum pressure over South|pg||
nt|hedyg: shhhhhhh! dont give them ideas!|pg||
nt|wstuart: Have Chips and Lew changed to a str NT vul?|pg||
nt|wstuart: *Chip|pg||
nt|chorush: yes|pg||
nt|007 joosth: always thinking  about chips?  :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: but it seem as if he has a 5@h now|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 1@c= 2+|pg||
nt|brolucius: I will still be free for commentators, Hedy. No need to worry.|pg||
nt|chorush: that dbl has just transformed this hand from something resembling a push to a swing for Nickell|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: chip wrote 12-14|pg||
nt|wstuart: He wrote 12-14 on the notepad the operator says.  This is very un-Chip-like.  He's a very aggressive player and I wouldn't expect him to downgrade a controlish 15 HCP, even though ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: it is 4333.|pg||
mb|3N|nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: a short fight, finally|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss grimaces a bit, points at dummy, still making plans|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: shorter than next room, where EW pushed a bit|pg||
nt|chorush: It may only be 3rd 4th position vul|pg||
pc|c2|nt|yuval10: South must've been convinced that his Partner has void @s|pg||
nt|wstuart: At one time they played 12-14 in all seats *except* 3rd, where it was 15-17.|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|yuval10: on surface it looks like N's double meant to discourage his Partner of carry on|pg||
nt|brolucius: Although if the kibitzers had to pay they would probably be less tolerant of the mistakes that the commentators make.|pg||
nt|dburn: optimistic, that - should South really have both majors stopped and the ace of clubs?|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c6|nt|dburn: still, this lead may let him escape for down only one|pg||
nt|007 joosth: the result is an impossible 3NT in the wrong hand|pg||
pc|c7|nt|vugraphzfe: some question whether the 84-44 carryover is correct|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol no Liz|pg||
nt|brolucius: This is E/W bidding.|pg||
nt|dburn: he won't make it with these cards, but maybe has more chance on the actual borad 3|pg||
nt|dburn: no, this is North-South bidding - they're just not bidding board 2 again|pg||
nt|harmon: theyve crossed rooms|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: we got disconnected sorry|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cT|nt|vugraphzfe: moss:"just to show off"|pg||
pc|d3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|chorush: yes, and a fat 13 imps to Nickell|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
nt|wstuart: No real problems discarding with Katz's hand.  Martel is hoping for a miracle, but it doesn't appear to be a religious holiday for him.|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|nt|hedyg: A@S?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Even if one of the majors was bare, West might have made an unlucky choice of lead. It was adventurous bidding by N/S that could have worked better.|pg||
nt|dburn: true, and I guess if South had a couple of aces, the unstopped major might well be 4-4 anyway|pg||
nt|brolucius: Good point.|pg||
nt|dburn: downgrade previous comment to "mildly optimisitic"|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c9|pc|d4|pc|d2|nt|hedyg: so he did play the A@S|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1SQ654HQ94DAQT7C76,SK98HKT32D9654CQ5,S73HA86DK82CAK843,SAJT2HJ75DJ3CJT92|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfg: Sorry folks, I can't figure out how to improve the picture on the webcam. The girl who set it up is off playing.|pg||
mb|1N|an|14-16|nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 14-16|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfg: Live streaming of this table at www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c6|nt|bigtrain: auction that everyone will understand here|pg||
pc|c5|nt|bigtrain: only unusal thing is 2@C promises 1+ 4-card major|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cQ|nt|bigtrain: and it is a bit unusal that meckwell play a 2NT contract :)|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|s4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|h5|mc|8|pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1SQ654HQ94DAQT7C76,SK98HKT32D9654CQ5,S73HA86DK82CAK843,SAJT2HJ75DJ3CJT92|sv|e|nt|vugraphzfe: moss very chatty.  asks whether @CT was suit pref|pg||
nt|ferlema: ok|pg||
nt|wstuart: I would not have opened 1@H, either, unless in the context of a strong @C system.|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Every conventional use of a bid has some downside. Stayman, probably the most uniformly played convention of all time, had a big downside on this hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|wstuart: So, I tihnk their NT in 3rd seat white is 12-14 (15-17 vul 4rd only).|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|wstuart: I'm sure Stansby will upgrade this hand to a 15-17 NT evaluation.|pg||
nt|chorush: you are probably correct Wayne|pg||
mb|1N|nt|vugraphzfe: kibitzer sits behind brad.  our first as opposed to the mob hovering at the zia-hamman table|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman, after sitting still for a minute, grabs the pass card off his tray|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|ritong: he had no real reason to get involved here|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: a strong @c?|pg||
nt|dburn: by the look of things|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|007 joosth: a hard job to do|pg||
nt|wstuart: Let me type tihs more accurately**So, I think their NT in 3rd seat white is 12-14 (15-17 vul 3rd only).|pg||
pc|cT|nt|wstuart: 2@D was GF checkback, I assume.|pg||
nt|chorush: Specs are asking why Stansby would upgrade his hand. the reason is the good 5 card suit mostly|pg||
nt|wstuart: The very fine controls are another reason.|pg||
nt|wstuart: I more true method than the A=4, K=3, Q=2, etc evaluation is to count Aces as 4.5, kings as 3 and Q and J as a little less than the Goren HCP representatoin.|pg||
nt|chorush: There is no obvious eighth trick here much less a ninth, so Meckwell did well to make 2NT|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|yuval10: time to stop now|pg||
nt|algraves: hello|pg||
nt|brolucius: That lead would have paid off if East held a singleton club.|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|h4|nt|yuval10: this seem to have no play at all|pg||
pc|h3|nt|wstuart: Aces and Kings gain power the more distributional the contract hands are, and aces and Kings combined with a 5 card suit for NT is a very big plus.|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hQ|nt|chorush: well, that got him up to 8|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: had @H2 out but put it back|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|nt|wstuart: Specs ask if a 1NT rebid could conceal 1 or 2 4 card majors the way Martel-Stansby are playing, and I believe the answer is yes, they tend to rebid 1NT to show the Strong NT when ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: possible.|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h9|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cJ|nt|vugraphzfe: fred: "don't worry about it"|pg||
pc|s4|pc|hT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d2|nt|chorush: this looks like 5 imps to Nickell and a tied match|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d5|nt|yuval10: seem like the only possible line is to find an opp with KQ doubleton @c, or KX @c and catch him off guard for an endplay|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2SKJHAKJ95DA92CT54,SH642DQJ8543CAQ96,SQT98764HDKT76CJ7,SA532HQT873DCK832|sv|b|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: important opening lead, this|pg||
nt|bigtrain: interesting lead choice here|pg||
nt|dburn: might lead the ace of spades to have a look|pg||
nt|dburn: and hope that he doesn't get a look at partner's singleton king|pg||
pc|h3|nt|bigtrain: !AS with fewer spades usually works up nicely...  with 4 a small trump?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|c7|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|cJ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|d4|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c6|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|c4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|cT|pc|h6|pg||
pc|d6|mc|11|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2SKJHAKJ95DA92CT54,SH642DQJ8543CAQ96,SQT98764HDKT76CJ7,SA532HQT873DCK832|sv|b|nt|ritong: 13 comparisons left|pg||
nt|hedyg: Liz is catching up|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry we lost our connection|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: of course when she got disconnected the players went on|pg||
mb|3S|nt|ritong: time to get one or two solid shots for israeli pair|pg||
nt|chorush: These two teams have a lot of history in the past 2 years, mostly in the US Team Trials|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: hi yuv hi all|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Losing the connection is hardly your fault, Liz, unless you were unlucky where you spilt your coffee.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|yuval10: salut Henri|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann makes a fist to show that 2@H is strong.  gitelman gently passes|pg||
nt|wstuart: Not looking good for 4@S here, though it is a fine contract.|pg||
pc|h3|nt|wstuart: if Lew finesses he can make, but I doubt he will do that.|pg||
nt|wstuart: Maybe however.|pg||
nt|wstuart: Interesting choice here at T1|pg||
nt|wstuart: Nvm|pg||
nt|chorush: he is going to make 11 tricks whether he finesses or not, in my opinion|pg||
nt|wstuart: @H lead gives it away|pg||
nt|wstuart: I was looking at the play before I saw the @H lead.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|vugraphzfe: :)|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|hK|nt|dburn: question of whether this goes down quickly or slowly, I guess|pg||
nt|chorush: Only way to have beaten this contract is with a club lead and a diamond ruff|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ritong: 2NT artif prolly any gf hand with no suitable rebid|pg||
nt|yuval10: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: a kind of gazzilli, just upscaled|pg||
nt|bg: letssee|pg||
nt|ritong: you think he should act?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: just the manner, softly placing the card on the tray|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar: not the worst|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: then asks who wants water; moss accepts|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|sK|nt|dburn: a club lead would mean quickly, this means slowly - assuming the defense does nothing silly|pg||
nt|wstuart: Doesn't 3 rds of @C beat it too, Ira?|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ritong: so far eldad has shown a strong 2 in @hs with questionable suit quality|pg||
nt|yuval10: double-dummy 6@h looks quite fair, but not today|pg||
nt|ritong: 2NT is a kind of puppet, asking opener to come back to his opening suit|pg||
nt|ritong: unless ha has real good news|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d4|nt|ritong: they did not want to try the coup three in a row  remained possible, though|pg||
nt|ritong: in this context, 3@c instead of 2NT would be forcing|pg||
nt|ritong: here, pachtmann had relatively good news|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman seems always in control, never on tilt, never in a hurry|pg||
nt|ritong: moss cares about the excited part|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|chorush: Eventually, declarer will lead a diamond toward the dummy and on the showout, will take 3 diamond tricks|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c4|nt|ritong: with talent|pg||
pc|cA|nt|hedyg: he ruffed the queen? really?|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|wstuart: but still would lsoe 2@C, 1D and 1S?|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|h5|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|nt|ritong: so, north had relatively good news, but not enough to make a move|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman gesturing like he's counting something out|pg||
pc|c5|pc|h6|pg||
nt|chorush: no diamond will be lost; delarer will pitch his two losing diamonds on the AK of hearts|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h8|nt|bg: these club discards are risky if W swithches now it is not safe to set up hearts|pg||
pc|cT|nt|wstuart: ah, of course.|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|ritong: i bet brad will try some joke about that at the table  he s facetious|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c2|nt|bg: should diccarded dia|pg||
nt|yuval10: he has 9 tricks though, 3@s, 3@d, 2@h and 1 @c|pg||
nt|bg: dis|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3ST965H8D6432CJ962,SAKJ4HT742D5CKQT3,SQ8732HJDKQTCA874,SHAKQ9653DAJ987C5|sv|n|nt|dburn: mind you, it would not have been at all easy for West to give East a diamond ruff even if he had led a club|pg||
nt|vugraphzfg: Could one of the commentators go to vugraphzfc table, there are none there.|pg||
nt|dburn: which one is that?|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2S|nt|vugraphzfg: r8 B|pg||
mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfg: open room of match B|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3ST965H8D6432CJ962,SAKJ4HT742D5CKQT3,SQ8732HJDKQTCA874,SHAKQ9653DAJ987C5|sv|n|mb|1S|nt|hedyg: Liz is going to have a tough time if they play and claim so quickly|pg||
nt|chorush: Very friendly diamond layout for this slam, presuming it is reached|pg||
nt|chorush: I don't know their methods assuming there are methods for hands like these|pg||
mb|2S|nt|wstuart: True, though it doesn't really require a friendly layout to make.|pg||
nt|Jacki: Live streaming available here:   www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion  If anyone knows the names of the players at the table, share with us|pg||
mb|3S|nt|yuval10: this one looks routine|pg||
nt|ritong: other room EW got offboard due to the systemic 2@c opening|pg||
nt|ritong: showing the equivalent of a very good weak 2 in @cs|pg||
nt|ritong: if you wonder how they treat very strong hands, big @c is the answer|pg||
nt|ritong: any 16+ hand is opened 1@c|pg||
nt|wstuart: There is a school of thought that one shouldn't Michaels with a 6 card Maj, however, I don't know if much analysis has been done on 7-5 bidding.  :)|pg||
nt|jillan:  looks liek Robert Levin|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|brolucius: The East hand is worth an extra point, with those controls and the five-card spades.|pg||
nt|brolucius: On the convention card that I am looking at, 2NT shows only 20-21. That's puzzling.|pg||
nt|dburn: Cheek may well lead a heart, which will work rather well for him|pg||
nt|hedyg: except the @s suit is not nice and stiff AK not great for NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: so he downgraded?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Top players rarely downgrade.|pg||
mb|4S|nt|brolucius: Mind you, they don't miscount very often either.|pg||
nt|hedyg: i have 20-21(22) may have a 5 card major|pg||
nt|wstuart: As you can see from the 3@S bid - Martel is a very aggressive player, which is why I was surprised when he downgraded a control righ 15 HCP to a 12-14 NT.|pg||
mb|p|nt|jillan:  and can't miss Meckstroth....|pg||
nt|robbg:  Weinstein (r) meck (l) with backs to us|pg||
nt|chorush: I would think Katz would close the bidding with 6 hearts here, unless he thinks he has a good way to get to 7 if it is there|pg||
nt|robbg:  Levin facing|pg||
mb|4N|nt|dburn: a diamond wn't work so well|pg||
nt|algraves: hello everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 2@d is 18-19(20)|pg||
nt|dburn: in fact, it may not work at all|pg||
nt|dburn: though declarer will still have to guess the play extremely well|pg||
nt|wstuart: 4@S is a control bid in @S showing a good hand and making a slam try in @Hs.|pg||
nt|wstuart: 4NT is likely RKC|pg||
nt|wstuart: Katz will likely jump showing the number of keycards and a void.|pg||
nt|chorush: They will have a way to show a void but Katz cannot be sure the void is not opposite an ace, as it happens to be here|pg||
mb|6H|mb|p|nt|jillan:  3 aces and a spade void|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: 9 easy tricks from top|pg||
nt|ritong: brad is visibly sitting on the benefits|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry, got knocked off the internet but didn't miss any of the bridge|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: seems normal|pg||
nt|wstuart: (RKC = Roman Keycard Blackwood) where there are 5 controls -  the 4 aces and the trump K.|pg||
pc|dK|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "that's too fast", takes time to study dummy|pg||
nt|ritong: just trying to avoid big swings|pg||
nt|ritong: if he was not doing that, he would certainly raise @ds|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss wrote: if you bid 1NT, X would be takeout. haven't discussed here|pg||
nt|ritong: which were freely bid by his pard|pg||
nt|hedyg: so now he knows no @D in N|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
nt|hedyg: why @c rather than @H?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h2|nt|bg: some may try to run club 8 now but not at imps risk of losing 4 dia tricks|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he probably knew that anyway - he would not expect Cheek to lead from @dAQ108 only against 2NT - all pass|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|h4|pc|dT|pg||
nt|wstuart: They claim should come right after Katz tries to sneak a @C through.|pg||
mc|13|nt|jillan:  NIckell again please|pg||
pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SA75H98643D4CKJ72,SKQ92HT72DK9853CA,SJ8643HKDQJCQ9543,STHAQJ5DAT762CT86|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|athene: hello good evening everyone|pg||
nt|bigtrain: hi william|pg||
mb|2C|an|alerted|mb|p|nt|athene: Nickell right back in it now the 3NT from earlier has kicked in|pg||
nt|athene: board 18|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C is a tranfer cue...  showing the best raise|pg||
nt|athene: showing how good it is to have the lead run up to a hand with Qx|pg||
mb|2S|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
nt|athene: lead the small heart not the ten with this holding|pg||
nt|athene: just in case there is singleton king or doubleton king onside|pg||
nt|athene: assuming you have the entries to lead from the west hand lots of times |pg||
nt|athene: people often tend to just lead the big card but that costs a trick when it gets covered from a short king of course|pg||
nt|athene: still, on a club shift declarer might not have the luxury of a heart finesse|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|h6|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s3|pc|dT|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s5|pc|d9|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d8|pc|c4|pc|d7|pc|c7|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|mc|11|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SA75H98643D4CKJ72,SKQ92HT72DK9853CA,SJ8643HKDQJCQ9543,STHAQJ5DAT762CT86|sv|e|nt|brolucius: They did well to go plus on those E/W cards. |pg||
nt|jillan:  Nick bid hearts first so he should be playing right|pg||
nt|wstuart: Right - Nickell was playing it.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: east took a short break|pg||
nt|wstuart: 6@D will make on this deal, but it is an odds-off contract.|pg||
nt|jillan:  can't they make 6@D here as the cards break|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: all players are back now|pg||
nt|chorush: This hand should be played in the very good 5 diamonds. 3NT undeservedly gains 2 imps so justice not served|pg||
mb|1D|nt|ritong: east tried a 1NT overcall in other room i d be surprised to see gitelman duplicate this|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: aside from being off the @SA, 6@D requires both the @H finesse and 2-1 @D which will fail 22% of the time.|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ritong: assuming 1@s is the response here|pg||
mb|p|nt|jillan:  I know the percentage BUT you can't argue with the layout|pg||
mb|1N|nt|brolucius: Sadam Hussein would describe this as the mother of all misfits.|pg||
nt|dburn: North-South will do well to go plus on these|pg||
mb|p|nt|007 joosth: what about the 1NT rebid?|pg||
nt|chorush: Most players will not rebid a 5 card minor nor reverse with such skimpy values, so 1NT is chosen as the alternative|pg||
mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|hedyg: a nightmare to play|pg||
nt|brolucius: Was 3@D available?|pg||
nt|dburn: better not bid any more, or he may have a doubled nightmare to play|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: will Lauria double if Cheek bids again?|pg||
nt|hedyg: if 2@s showed 6-5...|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|chorush: 50 years ago it would  have been universal to open East's hand 1 heart and rebid 2 diamonds|pg||
mb|3H|nt|algraves: no could have been only 4 spades|pg||
nt|brolucius: I don't agree that it should show 5-6 (on the basis that North has denied four spades). That is a reasonable auction to describe a strong 4-6 hand. |pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: this contract has a lot of play|pg||
nt|yuval10: 4@h looks makeable, so Schwartz team likely gets some imps back|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman studying the trick before turning it|pg||
nt|ritong: trump looks clear|pg||
nt|hedyg: then why bid 3@H?|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|ritong: 7|pg||
nt|chorush: Katz' 3H bid here is announcing some black suit worry|pg||
mb|4S|nt|ritong: brad has doubled, and not with a trump stack|pg||
nt|ritong: so he has values, including @h control|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann lowers screen, asks about carding, gitelman answers UDCA|pg||
nt|dburn: he doesn't have a bad hand for hearts, or so he hopes - that @sJ would be a working card, and he has an ace|pg||
mb|p|mb|5D|nt|wstuart: The question was posed that if EW knew both hands, why would they not bid 6@D (not knowing the NS layout).|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|algraves: down 2 or 3 it seems|pg||
nt|dburn: meanwhile, 3@d is pretty much bound to be hopeless unless partner miraculously has two of them|pg||
nt|brolucius: No reason whatsoever for Lauria to double, as I see it. |pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: ron tried a small @h to his stiff jack, but unfortunately moss was aware about that card|pg||
nt|jillan:  because it is a poor slam|pg||
nt|chorush: mainly because it is about a 41% contract|pg||
pc|c2|nt|jillan:  it has ONE virtue - it makes|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|ritong: no clear reason to give up on trump attack|pg||
nt|hedyg: Lauria said he miscounted last hand, thought he had 21|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|dK|nt|brolucius: Did he really, though, or was that just to annoy N/S?|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|nt|bg: Fred may regret tossing Dia|pg||
nt|bg: now if S ruffs a dia he cannot get off dummy without E playng another dia but he can discarf a club now Fred doent have anther dia|pg||
nt|ritong: far sighted, bruce|pg||
nt|yuval10: other room has already played twice as many boards as played here|pg||
nt|bg: if he ruffs a club now he has to finesse the dia|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|d3|nt|wstuart: To expand on my answer from above, the @H finesse is 50% and 3-0 @D is 22%, so the slam will fail 61% of the time (0.5 * 0.22).|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|chorush: Commendable bidding from EW will cost them 1 imp|pg||
pc|dA|nt|hedyg: well it is what he said|pg||
nt|brolucius: You are at the table-side?|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
nt|bg: now everything sb ok|pg||
nt|ritong: notice that this move does not cost a trick, contrarily to superficial look|pg||
nt|hedyg: no but Liz is|pg||
nt|brolucius: Ah|pg||
nt|algraves: so two down is possible now|pg||
pc|h6|mc|12|nt|marinesa: well done|pg||
nt|yuval10: making 5 now|pg||
nt|ritong: for the same 7|pg||
nt|yuval10: yep, wasn't rewarded for the fine play|pg||
pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1SKT64HQ73DQ63CQJ3,SA873H985DAJ42CA6,SQJ92HKDKT87CT842,S5HAJT642D95CK975|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|athene: quite an aggressive 4@H bid but they would get there anyway even if he just invited|pg||
nt|athene: west has a big hand for hearts with three trumps and three aces|pg||
nt|athene: when partner has an unbalanced hand, you know aces are good because they will fit with pretty much anything|pg||
nt|athene: lesser honours might not be working if facing shortage|pg||
nt|athene: declarer probably wondering whether to cash the @HA before embarking on his club ruffing spree|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s5|nt|athene: this looks best|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|h2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|h8|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|h4|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c9|pc|sK|pc|h5|pc|cT|pg||
nt|bigtrain: good defense will hold this to 4|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg||
nt|athene: he'll pitch a diamond now|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d9|nt|bigtrain: good declarer play|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hK|nt|athene: trying to make sure of getting lots of safe ruffs in his hand|pg||
pc|hA|mc|11|pg||
qx|c23|st||md|1SKT64HQ73DQ63CQJ3,SA873H985DAJ42CA6,SQJ92HKDKT87CT842,S5HAJT642D95CK975|sv|b|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: should have bid 5@S, you'd have bid 6|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: low heart might still pick off Tx or Txx with Gitelman|pg||
nt|dburn: looks like a Roland grand slam|pg||
nt|algraves: hmm|pg||
nt|hedyg: system summary for NS: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=577&pid=155|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|algraves: Lauria played too quickly there as it was clear to not play a third spade|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: they prolly have a tool to show 5@s 4@h limit|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: they are joking that it might go all pass at othe table|pg||
nt|dburn: but 6@s is pretty good - not straightforward to bid|pg||
nt|brolucius: Looks good for a splinter bid.|pg||
mb|2H|an|nat inv|nt|ritong: that too|pg||
nt|wstuart: Since the IMP returns are +11 IMPs for 920 vs 420 and -10 IMPs for -50 vs -400, the slam needs to be an 11:21 favorite in order to break even, wihch is 52%|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: here we go|pg||
nt|bg: yes 2h =5spades 4 hearts|pg||
nt|chorush: That's true, Wayne, when you compare it with 5 of a minor but not when 3NT is an alternative|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yuval10: West in the OR chose 1NT after South decided to open 1@d|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|ritong: possible 11 tricks  let s see|pg||
nt|marinesa: many pairs play 2h is 5s,4h 0-9 and 2s is 5s,4h and 10-11 something in this range|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
nt|marinesa: especially precision pairs|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@D shows a mixed raise.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: on the previous hand that is|pg||
nt|algraves: a lot of work to do in slam , KX spades is very favourable of course|pg||
nt|hedyg: a joke it is for sure|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am told: any shortness, 3@H ask and 3@S= singleton @C|pg||
nt|dburn: to say nothing of 4-3 diamonds with the king right, and the heart finesse on should North lead the suit|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not that this method appears on their card.|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
nt|ritong: the @h 9 had for purpose to diagnose if south has a stiff honor|pg||
nt|ritong: noone would cover with Hx(x)|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cJ|nt|wstuart: very true, Ira|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c8|pg||
nt|yuval10: have to go now, enjoy the rest of the match|pg||
nt|yuval10: bye|pg||
nt|ritong: ciao|pg||
nt|ritong: brad is not the only facetious one around this table, seems|pg||
nt|brolucius: Well bid, anyway. They are over the first hurdle of a two-hurdle-race.|pg||
nt|algraves: so all reasonable lines of play will work it seems|pg||
nt|robbg:  anyway that is backwards, if those were the only 2 possible results the needed odds would be 10/21|pg||
pc|h8|nt|hedyg: 3@D= fit and a singleton. 3@H asking etc|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|vugraphzfe: fred asked about 3H and brad asked about 3D but I didn't get conclusive answers|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|hedyg: a limited hand, no more than 4-5 controls|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is reassuring when he takes so long to work out the best plan. Makes you want to give up the game when they pick up 12 tricks without pausing for breath.|pg||
nt|dburn: this is not easy|pg||
nt|algraves: lol, very complicated if you are trying to make with spades 3-1 as you would like to ruff 3 clubs in dummy|pg||
nt|dburn: he may start @cA, club ruff, @dQ intending to pitch a heart|pg||
nt|dburn: or, I suppose, he may just take the heart finesse|pg||
nt|dburn: don't see any other serious runners, but far from clear which of those two is favourite|pg||
nt|harmon: I think he needs the ht finesse, but I let better analysts decide|pg||
nt|algraves: yes he may be thinking of heart finesse and then if that works to finesse club with fall back on 2-2 spades with king on side|pg||
nt|brolucius: East did choose the splinter bid art the other table and, as you see, they have netted 1430 at the other table. If you put your cursor over the result, you can see the auction.|pg||
nt|algraves: first really big hand of the match as slam may not be bid in other room|pg||
nt|algraves: oh i see|pg||
nt|algraves: that is a great feature|pg||
nt|brolucius: A trump lead made it a bit easier.|pg||
nt|harmon: Fleischer leading Nickell 20-0 after 6|pg||
pc|c9|nt|vugraphzfe: and did not see what went under SK|pg||
nt|chorush: that's true, and not known by most players|pg||
pc|s4|pc|h9|pc|cT|pg||
nt|harmon: Hey if Alfredo agrees with me I cant be tooo wrong|pg||
nt|brolucius: He didn't agree with you very quickly...|pg||
nt|harmon: as long as he did lol|pg||
nt|brolucius: We will see if he agrees with Allan by finessing in clubs next!|pg||
pc|sA|nt|algraves: lol, easy when you see all the cards|pg||
nt|harmon: Q of d my prediction|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg||
nt|dburn: that may come now|pg||
nt|brolucius: The defenders will be muttering to themselves under their breath. 'How many finesses is this guy going to take?!'|pg||
nt|hedyg: @s lead in OR|pg||
nt|harmon: ok Q of d now|pg||
nt|hedyg: ruff a @c first|pg||
nt|brolucius: The famous English player, Jeremy Flint, used to advise that you commit a huge amount of energy to the important boards. Operation Big Deal. That is exactly what Versace is doing.|pg||
nt|dburn: ace of hearts also not impossible, just to see whether he needs a heart pitch at all, but...|pg||
nt|dburn: ...that's probably too risky if the king doesn't drop|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|nt|harmon: thats better A|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ritong: yes|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|ritong: ensuring 10|pg||
nt|ritong: you never know|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2ST62HAQJ982D853CT,SJHK75DKJ7642C863,SA943HT63DQT9CK74,SKQ875H4DACAQJ952|sv|o|nt|athene: if he can elope with enough ruffs he can make even on a very bad trump layout because he just steals ten tricks before the defence can do much about it|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|athene: a very "pure" 2@H overcall |pg||
nt|athene: he could have a lot of hands in that position|pg||
mb|3H|mb|3S|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: hello good evening|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|bigtrain: hi kit|pg||
nt|athene: weinstein must know his red kings are facing shortage but he doesn't care|pg||
nt|athene: 3@S shows a real hand|pg||
nt|Jacki: Live streaming available here:   www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion  If anyone knows the names of the players at the table, share with us|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|s4|nt|athene: as an illustration of the point i made a moment ago, though, west would have been happy to trade both those kings for one red ace|pg||
pc|s5|nt|athene: much more likely to be useful on the bidding|pg||
pc|s6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|s7|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c6|nt|bigtrain: they are showing this table...  close to the right is steve weinstein|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cA|nt|bigtrain: close to the left is jeff meckstroth|pg||
mc|10|nt|bigtrain: at least it will be when they return  :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfg: Players taking a break before the next quarter|pg||
pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2ST62HAQJ982D853CT,SJHK75DKJ7642C863,SA943HT63DQT9CK74,SKQ875H4DACAQJ952|sv|o|nt|ritong: nice slam|pg||
nt|ritong: notice greco's 2@c|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: arguing the score now|pg||
nt|ritong: starting with 1@s might be less efficient|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss thought there were only 7 tricks|pg||
nt|algraves: Versace has very good feel at the table|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|chorush: 5 clubs within a hair of making here|pg||
mb|2H|nt|algraves: NS can remind themselves that slam is natural to bid and almost every line makes|pg||
mb|3D|nt|ritong: will eldad suggest slam?|pg||
nt|harmon: 6c here not the worst contract ive ever seen|pg||
nt|dburn: been in worse slams than 6@s on these cards|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 3s alert|pg||
nt|dburn: sorry, than 6@c|pg||
mb|3H|nt|dburn: although it is certainly true that I have also been in worse slams than 6@s|pg||
nt|dburn: but not as many of them|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@D game-forcing|pg||
nt|chorush: We are back to the nearly 5 club hand|pg||
nt|jillan:  can you make it double dummy Ira|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|bg: 3nt makes but hard to bid|pg||
mb|5C|nt|ritong: nope|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: 1@H-2@D-3@S= show2 5+@H-5+@C 12-14|pg||
nt|algraves: that is an interesting treatment , lots of merit in it |pg||
nt|chorush: I don't see how unless you get a trump lead or a heart and a heart continuation|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: vulnerable brad would try|pg||
mb|p|nt|bg: true Henri this is an imp scale type of hand|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|jillan:  I ment you personally >)(|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ritong: non vulnerable possible gain is not much bigger than possible loss|pg||
nt|ritong: so, better go quietly and avoid adrenalina rushes|pg||
nt|ritong: not that brad tends to avoid that:)|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
nt|chorush: you need to lead trumps twice from dummy|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry we were disconnected|pg||
mc|10|nt|jillan:  you certainly need som e luck here|pg||
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qx|o25|st||md|3SKQ3HJ52DKQ87CAQT,SAJ9542HKDJT62C85,S6H9873DA4CJ76432,ST87HAQT64D953CK9|sv|e|nt|vugraphzfg: players back|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|an|strong|mb|1S|nt|bigtrain: for current scores - http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-8|pg||
mb|d|an|6-7|mb|1N|an|Q bid|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ or their value (17+ if balanced)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: X = any 5+ - 7|pg||
nt|athene: is 1nt a spade raise without a top honour, perhaps?|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|athene: so partner doesn't make a costly opening lead from an unsupported king or something|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: usually after big club openers the defenders use 1NT as a surrogate cuebid|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|athene: yes, maybe, but you would think there was not so much need for that after NS announced they have the balance of the points|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: West would have made life much more difficult for N-S with 2@S call, but felt it was too risky I guess|pg||
nt|bigtrain: it is relevant though in many cases|pg||
mb|p|pc|c6|nt|athene: nice 3nt for NS if you really want it that much|pg||
nt|athene: but NV, they don't|pg||
pc|cK|nt|bigtrain: on 22 it's a bit hungry|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d4|nt|kit: 7@C upside-down suit pref|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|s6|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|nt|athene: not that there was much else to play but diamonds i guess|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|c2|pg||
nt|athene: easy to finesse trumps now, after north showed up with all those points|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3SKQ3HJ52DKQ87CAQT,SAJ9542HKDJT62C85,S6H9873DA4CJ76432,ST87HAQT64D953CK9|sv|e|nt|ritong: pure coinflip slam|pg||
nt|ritong: but two keys off|pg||
nt|ritong: oy|pg||
nt|brolucius: Versace was exhausted after the previous board and bid 3@S so that his partner could take a fair share of the work.|pg||
nt|dburn: third slam in a row|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: this one rather better than the last|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|mslair: likely another 13 IMPs to the Diamond team|pg||
nt|ritong: unclear|pg||
nt|ritong: brad might make it short|pg||
nt|chorush: We will see the effect of the weak NT here|pg||
mb|1S|nt|mslair: short by opening 4 hearts|pg||
mb|d|nt|ritong: or try some joke|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman showed interest when the tray came back.  usually is very stoic|pg||
nt|ritong: good time to have a gadget for minors|pg||
nt|brolucius: Another slam - just when I have to head for my wine-tasting. Ah well, it was 75 minutes very enjoyably spent. Bye!|pg||
nt|chorush: One of the disadvantages is that is allows the opponents to overcall freely at the one level. A major advantage is that it hinders the opponents from their natural bidding when ...|pg||
nt|chorush: they have the weak NT opener|pg||
mb|2C|nt|chorush: 2 clubs has not been alerted, but I believe it is a transfer to 2D which is a cue bid raise with 3 trumps|pg||
mb|d|nt|bg: NS have 7 losers hope they do not vul get them into unprofitable sac|pg||
nt|ritong: oy|pg||
nt|dburn: and seven making on a fluke if you accidentally bid it|pg||
nt|chorush: Martel must now have a way to show his strong NT|pg||
mb|2S|nt|chorush: Most experts play that 2 spades is Nickells weakest action|pg||
mb|3C|nt|ritong: fred: really?"|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Pass would be stronger|pg||
mb|3N|nt|dburn: 2NT forcing, no doubt a useful treatment, but Versace is a bit cramped for room now|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: Lauria has shown 16+ with 5+@d 4@H and no 3@ss|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: pick a slam sort of bid|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3NT probably denies 6 @ds now|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes 5NT= pick a slam|pg||
mb|d|nt|ritong: pachtmann lost a big chance imho|pg||
nt|ritong: 4@h will sound bizarre to fred's ear|pg||
nt|ritong: if any:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: fred writes: not discussed. 2245|pg||
nt|ritong: til now, fred is super happy|pg||
nt|ritong: he had the right tool for a hand which is usually very tough to negotiate|pg||
nt|mslair: can't sign off in 5 hearts   I think he will bid 6 hearts  |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss bouncing nervously|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: @s Q10 is awkward|pg||
nt|chorush: With great good fortune this is going to make|pg||
mb|4C|nt|ritong: just bid 4@s and check what happened after smoke clears up|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss also writes 2245|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss: he doesn't know anything about my hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: pick one yourself?|pg||
mb|p|pc|sT|nt|dburn: 6@c "you pick one", 6@d "all right", 6NT "not that one"|pg||
nt|algraves: well bid|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|chorush: Katz' double was a very good tactic; he really wanted the opps out of 3NT looking at his club holding|pg||
nt|jillan:  well done!|pg||
pc|sK|nt|algraves: well he was probably no 0454 as no 3@C so 6@C 1453|pg||
nt|harmon: 6n wrong sided but safe|pg||
nt|hedyg: with 3 cards in @D Versace would probably have bid 4@d|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
nt|chorush: Nickell will shift to the heart king and Katz will have nothing to lose by overtaking it|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|s2|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|c5|pc|h8|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|algraves: some might open east hand 1NT or if 1@D then rebid 2@C afraid to reverse with marginal reversing values so credit to Lauria for just bidding naturally |pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c8|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4S73HJT9765DAK54CT,SK84HDJ62CAKJ9862,SAT962HQ432DCQ753,SQJ5HAK8DQT9873C4|sv|b|nt|kit: particularly since North has ruffed once|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|2C|nt|athene: 2NT from north as a raise, or will he just bash in 4@H?|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|kit: seems like Levin should double 4@H -- if it would be penalty double, that is|pg||
nt|athene: well, if double of 4@H is takeout maybe west should do that, but 7 clubs and a heart void is perhaps extreme end|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: he could have bid 4nt to offer choice of minors perhaps|pg||
nt|kit: difficult to avoid the bad 5@C contract|pg||
pc|h3|nt|athene: no way for north to get his @DAK-diamond ruff anyway|pg||
nt|athene: south isn't getting in|pg||
nt|athene: so always just one down|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|hK|nt|athene: of course declarer doesn't know the layout so will hasten to get two diamonds away on the hearts|pg||
pc|hT|pc|dJ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|c2|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|nt|athene: rodwell plays big hearts to show diamond strength - not that it is really needed with declarer throwing diamonds away like that :)|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|d7|pc|h6|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4S73HJT9765DAK54CT,SK84HDJ62CAKJ9862,SAT962HQ432DCQ753,SQJ5HAK8DQT9873C4|sv|b|nt|ritong: on the other hand, 3@s will close the auction more often than not|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: loud discussion from hall, kibitzer gail greenberg hurries to close door|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: he claimed 7 on a squeeze but ns objected|pg||
mb|1D|nt|chorush: So Katz' double transformed a loss to a gain. Hard to blame Stansby for thinking that 3NT wasn't going to make|pg||
mb|2H|mb|3C|nt|harmon: they were right too|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|jillan:  how to stay out of game here|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|dburn: were they? wasn't North going to be show-up-squeezed in hearts and clubs?|pg||
nt|hedyg: i think so|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: mrs greenberg is brad's mom|pg||
nt|algraves: so cheek and gure play negative doubles after 2NT unusual|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: south said he was able to pitch|pg||
nt|chorush: A double by Katz here might have turned what will be a minus into a plus|pg||
nt|jillan:  yes a double from Katz wold have made it a bit simpled for Nickell|pg||
mb|4N|nt|harmon: grue coulda pitched his q of d|pg||
nt|dburn: he was right about that|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: no diff|pg||
nt|wstuart: Surely Nick will bid here, prob 5@C rather than 4NT.|pg||
nt|chorush: Mind you Katz has a terrible hand but he does have what he knows are a wasted AK of hearts|pg||
nt|wstuart: wrong again.|pg||
mb|5D|nt|harmon: grue needed Q10 of d|pg||
mb|p|mb|6C|nt|chorush: looks like a misunderstanding here|pg||
nt|wstuart: Tough decision between 5@C and 4NT|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|wstuart: hmmm|pg||
nt|jillan:  don't think Nickell tought pass was NF|pg||
mb|d|nt|ritong: makeable|pg||
nt|ritong: auction is crystal|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: guess @ds and bye bye clara|pg||
nt|bg: personally I am not a fan of not bidding out shape the 3 club bid could be an artificial force in some structures I would bid 4 clubs over 3 spades and show the shape|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i thought @CK to @D finesse was mirage|pg||
nt|ritong: a decision, al|pg||
nt|ahollan1: seems extra chances if low @D from hand|pg||
nt|ritong: the guess is: who has @d Hx|pg||
nt|ritong: when south can have @d HHx, i agree small to ten is better|pg||
nt|dburn: might have been easier in hearts, this|pg||
nt|jillan:  this will cost....|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: pass over 1@s is three @ss and mini values|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: will be down 2 since Martel won't get th diamond lead he was hoping for|pg||
pc|sA|nt|vugraphzfe: east says he forgot pass was forcing|pg||
pc|s5|nt|ritong: now of course, if north ducks smoothly..|pg||
nt|ritong: redouble is " please look closer"|pg||
pc|s3|nt|ritong: and pass over 2@h is " no, really sorry mate"|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: brad sees dummy, calls director, suggests ginossar has broken tempo over 2@S|pg||
nt|ritong: my perso style would be a fitjump in 2@s after pass|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|ritong: showing 5@s 4@d inviting values|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: none of these players will pass immediately with no problem as some others do|pg||
nt|dburn: in spades, declarer will have to pick up the trumps|pg||
nt|dburn: and he may not have the entries to do it, once he finds that East has four|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: after @SA lead @Dx seems even clearer -- then @DA and if suit not running, hope for 5@C 1@D 2@H 1@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if North wins @D -- well you're no worse off|pg||
nt|bg: only hopr her is a low dia play N for doubleton honor|pg||
nt|ahollan1: retraction -- just noticed @C discard from trick 1|pg||
nt|dburn: GIB would make it, of course, but although Cheek is a terrific player, he doesn't make everything that GIB would|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|ritong: gitelmoss certainly reserv that to an other handtype|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar seemed upset by the director call, takes some time to compose himself|pg||
pc|s7|nt|ritong: he had to decide early|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe that should have been @D|pg||
nt|algraves: the downside to 2 suited interference is the distributional information it gives away|pg||
nt|dburn: Cheek may have been uncertain as to whether 4@h was an offer to play, or a control-bid for spades|pg||
nt|dburn: if he'd known it was the former, he'd almost certainly have passed it|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|d2|pc|h2|pg||
nt|harmon: play ht now|pg||
nt|harmon: needs hts 2-2|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion|pg||
pc|hK|nt|dburn: if he loses a heart to West and a fourth round of diamonds is played...|pg||
pc|h6|nt|jillan:  ahh, ok, THAT explains it|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h3|pg||
nt|ritong: he will learn|pg||
nt|harmon: HE NEEDED the heart hook of he couldnt make it|pg||
nt|dburn: ...well, I guess he can handle that, but if one isn't played, he can't pick the spades up|pg||
nt|harmon: or|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ritong: smells like a push|pg||
nt|algraves: nice defense of course|pg||
nt|dburn: he might, though, have decided not to finesse hearts - he could make by finessing clubs instead|pg||
pc|cT|nt|ritong: stay stoic|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: need Michael Rosenberg or Bart Bramley for the single-dummy analysis|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ritong: for that matter, if someone has to get upset, it is rather pachtmann|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pg||
nt|algraves: interesting after the thrid @D , |pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|nt|ritong: ...|pg||
nt|ritong: who had an obvious call, especially in a trailing context, so nothing mean will happen|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss stretches, sighs, taps on the table|pg||
pc|d7|pc|h7|pg||
nt|algraves: that was fine play by Versace|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s6|nt|chorush: so 7 imps back to Fleisher and a new leader|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o27|st||md|1SQJ62H85432DQJ3C7,SAKHKJT9DT852CK42,ST983HADA76CQJT83,S754HQ76DK94CA965|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|athene: 2@C is a good pre-empt over 1@D|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: opps can often get into trouble untangling 4-4 majors, 4-3 majors, and club stoppers|pg||
pc|d4|nt|imp_jan: 2@C = good preempt v. 2@S :)|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|athene: not this time, though|pg||
nt|bigtrain: risks breaking burn's law though  :)|pg||
nt|athene: he's left the table, they feel it's safe|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d7|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|h2|pc|cK|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i'll do my best to keep everything up-to-date but the buckeyes game will be starting shortly  :)|pg||
nt|athene: declarer won't necessarily lose a spade ruff but he can't get the spades going and keep control|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg||
nt|athene: the defence do have to knock out the @HA though to get the force going|pg||
nt|kit: I wonder about opening diamond lead -- with no reason to expect discards from dummy, maybe passive spade lead is better.|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg||
nt|athene: going for the spade ruff costs a trick|pg||
pc|dT|pc|cT|nt|athene: because it allows declarer to keep control and score his fourth spade|pg||
mc|6|nt|athene: the defence would have got one more trick just forcing with hearts|pg||
nt|athene: and now declarer never makes ANY spade|pg||
pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1SQJ62H85432DQJ3C7,SAKHKJT9DT852CK42,ST983HADA76CQJT83,S754HQ76DK94CA965|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: very intriguing hand   and records will say  "just a push"|pg||
nt|dburn: still, declarer should probably have made it given the bidding|pg||
nt|wstuart: Nip and tuck, Fleisher back on top now.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|d|an|4 maj 5 min|mb|r|nt|algraves: how does he make after the ruff sluff?|pg||
mb|2D|an|p/c|nt|ahollan1: with 3 to score   O'Rourke leads Nickell by 7|pg||
nt|wstuart: I think DBL showed a 5+ card minor + 4 card major?|pg||
nt|chorush: yes, I assume 2 diamonds asks for pass or correction to major|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 1@H or 1@s?|pg||
mb|2S|nt|wstuart: It's interesting that Martel didn't jam with 3@H here - I guess he thought he had enough defense with both majors that he wasn't worried about getting outbid.|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|harmon: he cant unless ht onside that was my point|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: before everyone yelled at mne lol|pg||
nt|chorush: Not that often that 2NT is right as "save" over 2 spades; here it is going to make when 2 spades also would have made (I think)|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|ritong: lets see if fred can save 1 imp making 9|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss trying to find an escort to leave the room and ginossar tells him just to go|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: some back and forth between boards about the alleged tempo break|pg||
nt|wstuart: is it better for katz to dbl again?|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cK|pg||
nt|wstuart: Asked by a spec;  I think His DBL of 2@S is probably more strongly penalty oriented.|pg||
nt|chorush: Depends on what their methods are. They might as well not play 2 spades dbld because I don't think they will beat it. Could be wrong though|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|nt|bg: fred the magician can only make 3 if N plays 3 rounds of spades|pg||
nt|ritong: he has 8 on top and NS can try to establish a long @s|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h5|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: director said if tray passes back within 25 seconds it is not a break in tempo|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|nt|ritong: cashing time|pg||
nt|bg: or leads a third dia:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: you all think the 4@H bid is ok?|pg||
pc|h6|nt|algraves: yes , ptich heart on third diamond , Q@S, low@S to J|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|nt|ritong: good move|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|hedyg: specs all bid 2@d|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|h4|nt|algraves: club finesse , A and @H|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c8|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d3|pc|hJ|pc|d7|pg||
pc|hK|mc|8|pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2S76542H7DK63C8654,SATHAKT943DQJTC97,SK93H85DA87542CQT,SQJ8HQJ62D9CAKJ32|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|kit: nice slam here -- splinter bid might help them get there.|pg||
mb|2C|an|alerted|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|athene: this delayed splinter shows only three-card support for most pairs, though|pg||
nt|kit: now the splinter -- but West won't like xx in clubs|pg||
nt|imp_jan: there we go: hearts, clubs and diamond shortness|pg||
nt|athene: with four trumps most will show the heart raise immediately|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|kit: I'm guessing 4@S was Q and 4NT RKC?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfg: I think 2@C was some kind of @H raise|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg||
nt|imp_jan: declarer will test clubs at some point and can avoid the spade finesse|pg||
pc|cT|nt|bigtrain: 2@C was probably alerted as balanced or natural|pg||
nt|imp_jan: 2@C normally has svereal meanings|pg||
nt|bigtrain: but GF|pg||
nt|imp_jan: often a raise / or nat / or bal / all gf|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|mc|12|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2S76542H7DK63C8654,SATHAKT943DQJTC97,SK93H85DA87542CQT,SQJ8HQJ62D9CAKJ32|sv|n|nt|vugraphzfe: moss comes back and apologizes: "don't want to imply anything", shakes pachtmann's hand, says "we'll talk about it in the bar"|pg||
nt|harmon: then what|pg||
nt|algraves: then claim|pg||
nt|wstuart: What a fine set of actoin hands we are seeing.|pg||
mb|1H|nt|harmon: how|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: if brad opens, they will prolly be in 4NT|pg||
nt|ritong: hm|pg||
mb|2C|nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: curious that Moss opens playing 2/1  and Verhees did NOT playing a Big Club system|pg||
nt|dburn: then, he has the ace and jack of spades, and the lead is in dummy|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ritong: 4NT swish|pg||
nt|harmon: hts havent been played|pg||
mb|2S|nt|hedyg: NS play precision so 1@D can be many kinds of hands|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: very nice slam - hard to bid.|pg||
mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: for specs unfamiliar with the treatment    2N showed Balanced Game Force   a totally new concept that was introduced in 1920s|pg||
nt|bg: this pair obviously use 2nt as a balanced openig bid vs others who use Jacoby--both styles have their merits|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: awkward for South, this|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|nt|wstuart: Did east miss his chance by not splintering over the 2@H rebid?|pg||
nt|chorush: Yes, Wayne, slam is quite good and hard to bid. I always have trouble when I don't start with a direct forcing raise. Let's see if Katz does better than I would|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|chorush: Most partnerships have a rule that there are generally no new suits bid at the four level. So 4D is a cue for heartswith slam interest|pg||
mb|5H|mb|p|nt|hedyg: what a lead|pg||
mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: Liz the tables dont seem to be connected?|pg||
mb|p|nt|jillan:  well done Nick|pg||
nt|chorush: vwd and will duly make|pg||
nt|wstuart: a well earned push/|pg||
pc|dA|nt|vugraphzfe: fred calling cards so softly moss has to ask|pg||
nt|chorush: In slam bidding, there is a special responsibility placed upon the partner who holds the AK of trumps. His partner is doing all this inviting without them, so... should strain to ...|pg||
nt|chorush: accept|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg||
nt|wstuart: from a spec:  "I don't understand the bidding - West seems to have pushed to slam when East should have been the one doing so?"|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
nt|wstuart: West ahdn't show any extra values at 3@H - 4@D showed slam interest opposite a potential min;  now west has a very good hand.|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h6|nt|hedyg: bd 10 Seamon played in 4@H and made it|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: I don't know, I have no control over that connection|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: but i will try to find out about it|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty Liz|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|c9|nt|wstuart: 5@H on their auction says that 4@D was the whole story, but west hand enough to drive it in after that.|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
nt|bg: 2nt as analanced GF was very prevalent in the 40's and 50's if I recall Al|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3SKQ98H86DAJT92CT2,SJT742HAT5D873CJ6,SA5H9432DKQ54C843,S63HKQJ7D6CAKQ975|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|kit: 3@C probably mixed raise|pg||
nt|imp_jan: 3@C = 4crd supp, inv|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|kit: surprised East passed over it|pg||
nt|imp_jan: yep, he had not a clear bid though|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: 4@C optimal E-W spot on lie of cards.  4@H makes if hearts  3-3, but goes down several if not|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d7|nt|athene: west doesn't want to play a 4-3 fit with teh long hand fettig forced|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c7|nt|athene: with the long hand getting forced even :)|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c29|st||md|3SKQ98H86DAJT92CT2,SJT742HAT5D873CJ6,SA5H9432DKQ54C843,S63HKQJ7D6CAKQ975|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: i think Culbertson's 2N was forcing too|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: thought Acol introduced 2N as invite  and artificial Game Force was Ozzie & Jim Jacoby  early 60s??|pg||
mb|2S|nt|wstuart: Does the 3rd segment of these 64 boards start at 8p local time (5p BBO time)?|pg||
nt|wstuart: The operator says yes.|pg||
nt|chorush: The 3 dominant teams in American bridge over the past couple of years have been the two you are watching here and Diamond. The winner of this match will face Diamond should Diamond ...|pg||
nt|chorush: win today|pg||
nt|jillan:  will maybe be in bed by then...it is 11 pm here now...|pg||
mb|3C|nt|ritong: not sure about their style, but this @c Ax is surely worth an effort|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C must deny 3+@S|pg||
nt|wstuart: Spec asks what is the diff between the 2@S cue and a potential 2@C cue.|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|wstuart: Many play that the higher cue is more trumps and less HCP then the lower cue.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|hedyg: bd 9 6NT +1|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|nt|ahollan1: just not sure if 6th @C shown|pg||
nt|chorush: different pairs have different uses. Could be 2 spades shows 4 card support and 2C shows 3. Each to his own|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i think double dummy defense can set this 4    starts with @H lead|pg||
nt|ritong: now a battle of undertricks|pg||
nt|ritong: three looks like a lot of them|pg||
nt|ahollan1: then they must untangle @S winners while retaining transportation in @H -- extremely unlikely|pg||
nt|bg: rebid of the minor usually shows 6 with 3 hearts better to raise hearts with unbalanced hand|pg||
nt|ritong: but|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right Bruce -- but there is slight impact playing transfer responses|pg||
nt|ritong: try @c hook, loses, a @h back|pg||
nt|hedyg: bd 11 3@H -2|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: now the contract makes with @d K on|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: depending on 1N rebid -- 1@H can be used to show exactly 3@H [1N=weak balanced hand] or 2/3@H  [1N=18-19]|pg||
nt|harmon: Hedy why u disconnect tables??|pg||
pc|c2|nt|ritong: so 3@h 2@s 1@c 1@d|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann picked up his bidding cards, trying to end the auction before the tray passed back. perhaps has given up|pg||
nt|hedyg: moi?|pg||
nt|harmon: vous|pg||
nt|hedyg: jamais!|pg||
nt|hedyg: score is 28-7|pg||
nt|hedyg: for Cayne|pg||
nt|wstuart: However, there is a difference when you have overcalled 1M and 1m - when you've overcalled 1m 3NT is a likely contract and it is useful to play that you cue the one that you have a ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: stopper in, while after 1M the number of trumps and hand type is more important.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: he is facing his hand|pg||
nt|wstuart: I don't know what the NS undersdtanding is here.|pg||
nt|jillan:  a wll played match with a lot of interesting hands and actions|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4SJ3H532D986CKQJ95,SAQ97HKTDAQTCT764,S654HQJ64DKJ54CA3,SKT82HA987D732C82|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg||
nt|kit: I agree with not bidding Stayman on East hand -- game unlikely, and missing a 4-4 major-suit fit probably won't matter, as with this hand|pg||
nt|athene: yes|pg||
nt|athene: with 7 hcp you are not exactly tremling at the thought of the massacre that 1nt will be|pg||
nt|athene: South would be quite happy to see a stayman bid appear - it would mean he could show his hand :)|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d9|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d4|pc|sT|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|d8|pc|c4|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4SJ3H532D986CKQJ95,SAQ97HKTDAQTCT764,S654HQJ64DKJ54CA3,SKT82HA987D732C82|sv|o|mb|p|nt|hedyg: bd 12 S is playing 4@h|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: were no cards played for those who asked other than the opening lead|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|ritong: ginossar/pachtmann not having fun|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nickell v O'Rourke showing  Nickell +7 with 2 to play  there is possible scoring error of 3 or 4 imps [it would be in favor of O'Rourke]|pg||
nt|hedyg: live streaming from the OR: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion|pg||
mb|d|nt|wstuart: Chpis turn to get his lead directing DBL in|pg||
nt|chorush: will Katz think his hand worth a raise?|pg||
nt|wstuart: *Chip's|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S instead of 1N means Moss ON DEFENSE gets 100 honors|pg||
nt|bg: not much joy in this hand eather|pg||
nt|ritong: but imps no matter what|pg||
nt|ritong: even if few|pg||
nt|hedyg: far left is Cayne, far right Amoils|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|chorush: Nick won't|pg||
nt|wstuart: It's interesting that EW do'nt ahve any special methods here to try and get the contract played by the hand that has a @C stopper|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chorush: Guess that is commentator's curse|pg||
nt|wstuart: It's reasonable to play pass to say he doesn't have any reason for a @C lead to come up to his hand, then try and get the major suit contracts played by east, who might have a @C ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: stopper.|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ritong: and a @h|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d by Versace would have shown both majors|pg||
pc|c2|nt|wstuart: I think this might make double dummy.|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pg||
nt|ritong: best is to duck that|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred fidgeting with quitted trick, hand folded|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh  bigtrain [Walter Johnson] says if scoring error  it would be Nickell +1 with 1 to play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: amazing our match had ANY spectators|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: with bbotv can watch more than one room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: too right -- never thought about them  even though one is ME|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred finally fans his cards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but we who logged in to watch this match  saw a lot of very solid play from Diamond|pg||
pc|c3|nt|hedyg: bd 12 5 imps to Grue, 4@H -3|pg||
nt|hedyg: 28 - 12|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s4|nt|chorush: Yes, squeeze looks like it will work|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|nt|bg: sometimes better to use only two entries to play on side duit like clubs which requires two finesses  and jus lead spade away from king|pg||
nt|ahollan1: whoa    de ja vu|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|wstuart: if he can ruff 2@C and strip squeeze N he might do it.|pg||
nt|wstuart: complictaed, let me think....|pg||
nt|wstuart: :)|pg||
pc|c4|nt|chorush: Nick will have to believe Chip's diamond 9|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s8|pc|c9|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|cT|pc|d5|nt|chorush: If he believes the diamond K is offside the squeeze is his only chance|pg||
nt|wstuart: Yep, he's going to make it now if he guesses where teh @DK is|pg||
pc|sK|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|dK|pg||
nt|chorush: Stansby has defended well by blanking his diamond K early|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|h7|pc|cK|pg||
nt|chorush: vwd by Nick|pg||
pc|s7|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|d8|pg||
nt|wstuart: yep|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg||
mc|10|nt|jillan:  well played Nickell|pg||
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qx|o31|st||md|1S874HJ9642D963CT7,SQ2HA7DAKQT87CA95,SKJ95HT8D542CK642,SAT63HKQ53DJCQJ83|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|kit: This typically shows a solid diamond suit and stoppers in the unbid suits|pg||
nt|athene: there's no need for a 3nt jump there to show strong balanced, so typically it is based on good diamnods and stoppers outside|pg||
nt|kit: Now East has to judge what his hand is worth opposite that -- and what bids mean maybe|pg||
nt|athene: you need some way of asking for aces on this sequence|pg||
nt|imp_jan: the sight of the @DJ might encourage east, he knows that @d are running|pg||
nt|kit: I wonder if they have had any discussion on followup meanings after 3NT call here.|pg||
nt|athene: well 4@D is certainly natural and slam-going|pg||
nt|athene: i mean unless you actually agreed it is RKCB or something|pg||
nt|imp_jan: 1@D opening btw is ultra solid|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|nt|imp_jan: some wld open 2n|pg||
nt|imp_jan: there we go|pg||
nt|athene: of course if you DO ask for keycards, does partner discount the @DAKQ he has already "promised"?|pg||
nt|kit: East will assume West has king of spades and a club stopper, so seems like ace ask is all he needs to do|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: now west has a small problem: 4@h = i like to play there or a cue (or is 4@D kinda kick back?)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|nt|athene: i think it makes life too hard if 4major in these auctions is offering a place to play|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d8|pg||
nt|athene: you often are going to need to cue in partner's suit|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|s3|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|d9|pg||
nt|kit: I play that 4 of previously bid major is always an offer to play|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|h6|pg||
nt|kit: maybe not perfect, but at least there won't be any mis-understandings|pg||
pc|dT|nt|athene: sure, any agreement is a lot better than none|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|s8|pg||
pc|h7|nt|athene: he has 12 sure here so is just fiddling around for 13|pg||
pc|c2|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
pc|cQ|mc|12|pg||
qx|c31|st||md|1S874HJ9642D963CT7,SQ2HA7DAKQT87CA95,SKJ95HT8D542CK642,SAT63HKQ53DJCQJ83|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: unofficial   Nickell beats O'Rourke by 1|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred mumbles sorry.  moss:"I could have played @SK at trick one"|pg||
nt|ritong: extremely unofficial|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2 possible scoring errors so stand by|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: The Greensboro NC native has show fine card reading skills.|pg||
mb|1D|nt|ritong: not sure moss should go high with both opps passed|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: he had to draw exactly 2 @H then play on clubs. Lauria can win thrid club and play @S but you ruff in dummy and ruff club and play last heart to dummy to draw trumps|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: moss wide-eyed at the 5@H call|pg||
mb|3N|nt|hedyg: bd 13 2@s by E|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2 scores in  Fleisher leads by 37 over Onstott    Berg over Lynch by 74|pg||
nt|chorush: One moral of this story is that when you play cards to help partner, it may help declarer as much or more. the diamond 9 was a tipoff, with the K he would have no reason to ...|pg||
nt|chorush: discourage a diamond return|pg||
nt|wstuart: 3NT on these auctions shows specifically long and good @D since 2NT would be bid on 18-19 bal hands.|pg||
nt|chorush: I think Nick's hand is too good for his action|pg||
nt|wstuart: Nice point, Ira|pg||
nt|wstuart: Yes, he|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: !|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: *he's definitely heavy for 3NT.|pg||
pc|s5|nt|wstuart: However, it may be a least of evils decision - I don't know their methods well enough to undersdtand his other consideratoins.|pg||
nt|jillan:  scheisse, and he was doing so well|pg||
pc|s3|nt|ritong: 1NT response had a small chance  2@s has not|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we'll surely see Nickell v O'Rourke in final set of the night -- and if this table one of last to finish this match too|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "sorry if this is wrong"|pg||
nt|algraves: he was playing east to be 7411 I think|pg||
pc|s7|nt|ritong: on the other hand, 1NT with four trumps, a singleton and a king would be fancy|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: looks like Nickell will end set trailing O'Rourke by 8|pg||
pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: this result easy to accept -- when you're +80|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ritong: forgiven|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: forgotten :)|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|vugraphzfe: fred calling cards more audibly this hand|pg||
pc|c7|nt|ahollan1: Bergen would bid 1@S-3@S   that might convince East to Pass|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ritong: really?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and probably easier to find 9 tricks in 3@S than in 4@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: which really?   3@S with West   or   Pass from East??|pg||
nt|ritong: i mean 1) would bergen preempt two passed hands and 2) would west give up?|pg||
nt|ritong: esat*|pg||
nt|ritong: east**|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sure 3@S -- descriptive     East Passing -- that's why i said "might"  only 5 trump, 3 quick outside losers [3@S won't have Ace]|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o32|st||md|2SQJ92HD9753CAQT96,S876H864D86CKJ854,SAK3HK753DKQJT2C7,ST54HAQJT92DA4C32|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|2H|nt|athene: strong club and east has a hand that can try to do some damage even at this vulnerability|pg||
nt|kit: not a classic weak jump overcall, but vs. strong club, just jack up the bidding if you can|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@H would show a game forcing 3-suiter with short @H|pg||
mb|3C|an|5+!C GF|nt|imp_jan: yep, especially v passed pd (free style)|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: could also bid 3@C|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: north could have bid 3@D there|pg||
pc|hA|pc|d3|nt|athene: still room to get to 3nt you would think (3major from pd)|pg||
nt|athene: if that is the right place|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h9|nt|imp_jan: hm, 3n down, 6@d on (may be)|pg||
nt|athene: 6@D there, 3nt not|pg||
pc|d5|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|c6|pc|h8|pc|hK|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|athene: as reese said, "3nt is the most stultifying bid in the game" - in other words if you bid 3nt you better be right because partner will be very loth to remove it|pg||
mc|7|nt|kit: very difficult hand for N-S|pg||
nt|athene: 3nt over 3@C, using up all the 3-level, really should be a strong statement i.e. two heart stops i think|pg||
nt|bigtrain: imo roddy would have been better served to bid 3@H|pg||
nt|kit: Yes, if he bids 3@D partner can diddle with 3@H with no clear direction|pg||
nt|athene: there would be work to do in 6@D for sure, you might have to take a ruffing club finesse - but 2@H might make that possible|pg||
nt|bigtrain: communicates more about his hand|pg||
nt|vugraphzfg: That's it for this segment, next segment at 8pm ET, 2 hours 20 min from now|pg||
nt|athene: of course, we are discounting a simple 5@D contract|pg||
nt|athene: i am sure rodwell would have liked to have a bid to show his hand right away|pg||
nt|athene: but if 3@H showed it surely you would expect him to remember that|pg||
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qx|c32|st||md|2SQJ92HD9753CAQT96,S876H864D86CKJ854,SAK3HK753DKQJT2C7,ST54HAQJT92DA4C32|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: final board of the 3rd Quarter    anticipate  15 minute break before final set begins|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: last board.  thanks all for watching.  quarterfinals start tomorrow at 1pm EDT|pg||
nt|hedyg: they play variable 14-16 and 15-17|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Jan must have reconnected|pg||
nt|algraves: they play more like 13 to bad 16|pg||
nt|wstuart: An interesting consideration on these 3NT rebids is what opener's holding in responder's suit is - it's reasonable to define it as with showing 1 or less or 2 or more.|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: There are many slam hands where that is the crucial and hard to determine peice of information if you don't ahve a specific agreemnt.|pg||
mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: but teams can agree to start earlier|pg||
nt|ritong: an other difficult decision|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok we have the scores now, great!|pg||
nt|algraves: versace right on the rule of 2 or 3|pg||
nt|hedyg: last board of this segment|pg||
nt|algraves: 7 tricks, no outside defense, classic|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ritong: when raised, what to do?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 1pm EDT = 5pm GMT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@S easy  -- Moss 4@S probably easy too  since @Dxx|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|dburn: this is a real chance for Fleisher|pg||
nt|dburn: five diamonds (even six diamonds) look vastly preferable to 3NT|pg||
nt|wstuart: Prob 2NT showing the str NT?|pg||
mb|2N|nt|ritong: enterprising 2@h|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the Open Room  Greco thought a long time before passing 3@S|pg||
nt|hedyg: short break and then 2nd segment|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: if in 4@S, i think declarer has a chance|pg||
nt|ahollan1: take the plus|pg||
nt|algraves: and lauria adds his three tricks and there you have it|pg||
nt|mdgraham: wot hapen there?|pg||
nt|wstuart: but Chip will likely just kick it in to 3NT knowing he is facing at least some @H wastage for a slam.|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he could bid 3@h, just to make sure|pg||
nt|wstuart: true, they still have chances here|pg||
mb|3H|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: good match, shakes hands with opps.  fred: good play cashing @SA|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: thsi must imply a @D fit.|pg||
mb|3S|nt|chorush: Stanby probably will bid 3S|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i mentioned because South hand opposite a 14-16 NT improved during the auction|pg||
nt|dburn: well done Chip - knew you wouldn't let me down|pg||
nt|wstuart: I assume 3@C after 2NT would not have been forcing.|pg||
nt|chorush: I don't know enuf about their methods|pg||
nt|wstuart: Although, after a 2 level nerg DBL opposite a str NT it seems like it should be.|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: yes -- if EW negotiate @C ruff beat is easy|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Katz is going to have a good idea what to lead if it plays here|pg||
nt|wstuart: Chip's sequence expresses doubt about 3NT and Lew's stopper is surely about as weak as they come.|pg||
nt|dburn: indeed - he cant pass, can he?|pg||
mb|4S|nt|algraves: now diamond and diamond will eventually beat it|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: but in real world ...|pg||
nt|dburn: no, he can't|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: my computer is having some problem|pg||
nt|algraves: now Versace will have to guess TX in trumps to make|pg||
nt|hedyg: just a little bit more Liz! |pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: so we will be back about 15 minutes after all finish|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry lag not responding|pg||
nt|algraves: pershaps south did overtake and it was missed by recorder|pg||
nt|hedyg: or he just misguessed|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: I tried to key it|pg||
nt|algraves: thrid diamond, and if neccessary 4th diamond promotes trump ten|pg||
nt|hedyg: np Liz, you didnt a good job! thanks @H|pg||
nt|hedyg: you did a good job* my keyboard too!|pg||
nt|algraves: even if south did not overtake it seems natural for West to misguess the third diamond after south wins trump ace|pg||
nt|sillafu: how can he misguess|pg||
nt|hedyg: Liz it is minus 1 for sure?|pg||
nt|hedyg: the result of -1 confirmed|pg||
nt|wstuart: Now they need to not overstate their values.|pg||
nt|wstuart: VWD for Martel-Stansby!|pg||
nt|wstuart: There is a reason they have won so many championships.|pg||
pc|c3|nt|chorush: looks like this one can't be beaten|pg||
nt|wstuart: (VWD = very well done)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
nt|ritong: wow|pg||
pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: Deutsch [original  16]  dethrones the defenders Monaco   152-91|pg||
nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg||
nt|ritong: see you to morrow|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ok, we're done, see you tomorrow|pg||
pc|h9|pc|d3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|d5|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|d2|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|d7|pc|h8|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|dJ|nt|chorush: This hand shows one of the difficulties of playing a strong club system. Meckstroth and Rodwell had huge difficulty after a one club opening|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|d9|nt|wstuart: They ambiguity of the suits after a preempt really left them in a bad way.|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|dT|mc|11|nt|wstuart: Back for more in 1:40 min|pg||
nt|dburn: well, the chap with diamonds might have bid them, I guess - he could reach 3NT later if he truly belonged there|pg||
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