vg|2011 Vanderbilt A,Segment 4 of 4 ,I,49,64,Nickell,85,Fleisher,78|
rs|4SE=,4SE=,4HE=,4HE+1,4HN+1,4HN=,4SE=,4SE=,6SW+1,7SW=,3NN+1,2DS+2,4SS-1,4SS=,6DW=,6DW=,4SWx-1,4HN=,3DW=,2NW-1,2NN=,3HN+1,4HN+1,3NN+4,1NW+2,3NW-1,4SE=,4SE-1,3SN-1,4SN-2,2CNx-5,3NW+2|
pn|Rodwell,Stansby,Meckstroth,Martel,Levin,Zia,Weinstein,Hamman|pg||
qx|o49|st||md|3S42HKQJ72D9CKQJT6,SAKJ8HADAQJ8CA754,S975H9864DK432C82,SQT63HT53DT765C93|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfc: welcome (back) -- players are all here and we will begin in a minute for the final segment of the Rd of 8 in the 2011 Vanderbilt from Louisville|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|wstuart: Another action hand to start off with.|pg||
mb|3H|nt|bigtrain: 3@H is weak with 4+@H|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|dinos1: now 4@s|pg||
mb|4H|mb|d|an|dont lead heart|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|dinos1: 4@h bid will only push them to 4@s that they may not bid|pg||
pc|cA|nt|dinos1: 4@h by S|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|d9|nt|wstuart: Without interference, West would likely have opened 2@C and rebid 2NT;  east would likely have bid stayman and arrived at 4@S anyway.|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|s2|nt|wstuart: Although it's a somewehat awkward pattern to handle without the interference.|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|d4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s4|mc|10|pg||
qx|c49|st||md|3S42HKQJ72D9CKQJT6,SAKJ8HADAQJ8CA754,S975H9864DK432C82,SQT63HT53DT765C93|sv|o|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: levin: you play standard, right? not a club system?   and zia smirks|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|3H!|nt|Vugraphzfd: weinstein discovers his box is out of order when he goes to bid|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|chorush: Effective interference here|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|chorush: well done to stop safely|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia puts down AAAA first|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: levin: wow, zia: I wasn't overbidding for once|pg||
pc|cA|nt|jbgood: lucky club position makes 10?|pg||
nt|jbgood: hi all|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|nt|Vugraphzfd: hello Jon and specs|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: NS: standard count, upsidedown attitude|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|jbgood: Ham went for it and makes 10 without breething|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|h8|pc|sT|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d6|nt|Vugraphzfd: hamman had both @ST then @D6 detached for a few seconds before facing them|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|nt|Vugraphzfd: hamman: even I should be able to make this one|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o50|st||md|4SA32H87DKQ943CJ83,SKJ8H9654DJT62C92,SQT9654HJD85CAT75,S7HAKQT32DA7CKQ64|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|dinos1: 3@s now?|pg||
mb|3C|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|s4|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d4|pc|h6|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c3|mc|10|pg||
qx|c50|st||md|4SA32H87DKQ943CJ83,SKJ8H9654DJT62C92,SQT9654HJD85CAT75,S7HAKQT32DA7CKQ64|sv|n|nt|wstuart: Hi all.|pg||
mb|1H|nt|Vugraphzfd: kamil animatedly whispering something to zia, shushed by fleisher|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|an|"not hopeless but mixed"|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|wstuart: Many players would consider opening 2@S with east|pg||
nt|jbgood: dbl for to?|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: zia asks kamil if they play lebensohl and what else in this position|pg||
mb|p|nt|jbgood: if Zia goes too heavy he may be in for some heavy pen|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher attempts to bid 3@D, hamman makes him put it back|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: no longer an easy decision, taking more time, pointing with his finger back and forth|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Zia's 3 heart bid shows the influence Marty Bergen has had on expert bidding|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia: weak raise.  mixed except at favorable|pg||
pc|dK|nt|jbgood: heart finesse makes 5d|pg||
pc|d2|nt|jbgood: very cheap ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kamil talks with his hands.  gestured helplessly at the tray when it came (belatedly) back|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg||
nt|chorush: Levin may rise and play a low spade|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: agonizing, tugging his hair|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|wstuart: Should be out ffor -2.|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s7|pg||
nt|chorush: that 100% occurred quickly|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o51|st||md|1SA52HJ742DKQJ84CT,SQ876HA53DA63CQ84,SKHKQT986D75CKJ75,SJT943HDT92CA9632|sv|e|mb|1D|nt|bigtrain: 1@D is 2+ catchall|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2@H promises 4|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@S is possible also|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg||
pc|hT|pc|s4|pc|h2|nt|bigtrain: score updates - http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-8|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|d7|pc|s3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c51|st||md|1SA52HJ742DKQJ84CT,SQ876HA53DA63CQ84,SKHKQT986D75CKJ75,SJT943HDT92CA9632|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfd: kamil: "4441 with @HA and @DK. as usual I was too chicken to bid again"|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: kamil forgets to alert 1@H, zia points to it, kamil wakes up: "sorry thinking about the last hand"|pg||
nt|chorush: It seems to me that on board 1 of this match Levin would have routinely returned a small spade without thinking much about it. When you go into the last 16 so close, every imp is ...|pg||
nt|chorush: SO meaningful|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|wstuart: 1@H was a xfr to @S, 2@D was 'xyz" simliar to 2 way NMF, which forced 2@D I think.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kamil spills the bidding cards off his tray|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|nt|Vugraphzfd: levin: oh my god! realizes he had a heart in with his diamonds|pg||
pc|s2|nt|Vugraphzfd: zia tried to lead @H5, kamil threw it back|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kamil: I have a better hand than you do|pg||
pc|s8|nt|wstuart: 2@S after the forced 2@D showed inv hand|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|hT|pc|s3|nt|Vugraphzfd: levin: bet you're glad I got it (the fourth @H) now|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h9|pc|d2|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c4|nt|warrens:  I was trying to understand the bidding before you told us that|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: as was I!|pg||
nt|chorush: Hi Warren|pg||
nt|chorush: Welcome|pg||
nt|warrens:  hi Ira.  hi all.  i will try to stay awake with you|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: weinstein normally keeps his eyes hidden - but here I can see them darting from his hand to the dummy to the @C4|pg||
pc|cK|nt|Vugraphzfd: kamil said 1@S showed 2-3 and a weak NT, that fleisher might be weak with 4 spades but he(Kamil) would never do that|pg||
pc|cA|nt|chorush: a misguess here could be damaging but as the card lie, he would survive|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|chorush: On a club back he will ruff and lead the diamond K|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|h8|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o52|st||md|2ST65HAJT72DJTC864,SKJ9HKQ95DQ7432CQ,S73H864DK5CAKJT92,SAQ842H3DA986C753|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|d|an|hearts|nt|bigtrain: X shows @H|pg||
mb|3S|nt|bigtrain: also @C tolerance implied|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s7|nt|jaapfr: ty|pg||
nt|jaapfr: gm ge all|pg||
nt|dinos1: take @s in dummy and @hK?|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg||
nt|bigtrain: hi jaap  :)|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|sA|nt|jaapfr: hoi walter|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|h3|nt|jaapfr: will he play @HA to prevent ot?|pg||
nt|dinos1: think in the ending dcl will lead @dQ - in case stiff @d10 or J|pg||
nt|jaapfr: but specs if he ducks he does not get a @C trick imo|pg||
nt|dinos1: he'll get @c but no @h|pg||
nt|jaapfr: hence the ot with 1@D loser only|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Rodwell:  "sorry"|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|c2|pc|s4|pg||
nt|jaapfr: impreessive def|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|c3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|c7|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c52|st||md|2ST65HAJT72DJTC864,SKJ9HKQ95DQ7432CQ,S73H864DK5CAKJT92,SAQ842H3DA986C753|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher: sorry I screwed that up|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia asks who had @CJ, weinstein admits he had it|pg||
mb|1D|nt|chorush: had a club been returned he wouldhave ruffed, led the diamond king. If taken, hand is easy. If ducked, he would throw his other diamnd on the spade ace and crossruff, losing a club ...|pg||
nt|chorush: at the end|pg||
mb|2C|mb|2S|nt|jbgood: can they stop below 5@d?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia was ready to bid before hamman had taken his hand from the board|pg||
mb|d|an|snapdragon, !H+ !C fit|mb|3S|nt|Vugraphzfd: now whips down the 4@C card|pg||
nt|jbgood: the 1 @s bid would not be recommended in bridge books...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: loudly flipped the trick where hamman had led away from @HK last hand as well|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: and conversing with sabine behind his shoulder while tray is on the other side of the table|pg||
nt|chorush: I can't see how Hamman will fail to bid 5 diamonds|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher points at 4C.  hamman raises hands in an "I don't know" gesture|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chorush: except that since the club q was dropping he would have made 5|pg||
mb|p|pc|c4|nt|Vugraphzfd: zia: if I was playing with my own money I would never make one bid on this hand!|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: waves versace into dummy's seat and goes to watch the italians|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|chorush: Well, Zia is right, he doesn't have a very good hand|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: weinstein still planning the defense beyond this trick.  and perhaps which honor to play.  yesterday saw both tables win @CAfrom AK at trick 1 to muddle the position|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|s9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h3|nt|Vugraphzfd: levin moves @HA to the end of his hand|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|chorush: This is the toughest defense. Hamman is going to have to hope spades break and diamonds are not unfriendly.Good fortune will favor him|pg||
pc|c6|pc|sJ|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|h5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|d3|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfd: levin: could we do anything?  weinstein: no|pg||
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qx|o53|st||md|3SQ4HQ873DKT9742C5,SAKT7632H5DQJ3CT8,S9HK9642D865CJ974,SJ85HAJTDACAKQ632|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@D is his only real choice since 2@D would show the majors|pg||
nt|dinos1: 2@c wd be nat, right?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: yes |pg||
mb|2H|nt|wstuart: At this vulnerability, most play a jump overcall to show quite a decent hand, too.|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: bets on specs 7nt or 7@S or ?? place yyr bets now|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 7@S for sure|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: you are not the only one walter my screen is blue of the 7@S bets  a few 6@S though:)|pg||
mb|5H|nt|dinos1: how to know about 7-carder? have they q about extra length?|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: I was thinking the same thing, Sergey.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i support the majority al;so : 7@S|pg||
mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: if W knew E has 3-fit he wd answer 5@s but does he know it?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: similar situation in other room and Zia showed the spade queen|pg||
nt|po-s: would Stansby jump to 3s with only six?|pg||
nt|dinos1: why not?|pg||
pc|h2|nt|po-s: AKxxxx ?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: to show the queen you need to be dure partner has a 3fit or else you'll risk bidding a poor grand|pg||
nt|dinos1: AK109xx :)|pg||
pc|hA|nt|wstuart: AKT9xx?|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i get a lot of ideas about bidding but i amazed E could not bid 4@D and not 4nt|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|c53|st||md|3SQ4HQ873DKT9742C5,SAKT7632H5DQJ3CT8,S9HK9642D865CJ974,SJ85HAJTDACAKQ632|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfd: sorry for the interruption|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: All they could do is give Hamman another white hair or two|pg||
mb|1C|nt|Vugraphzfd: after the hand fleisher said he thought 4@C might be a splinter (looking at J-5th himself)|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|chorush: Here we have a good grand slam. |pg||
mb|4N|nt|chorush: tough hand here. Game making in spades but not diamonds. This should get them there|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher looks at 3@S for a while before pushing the tray|pg||
mb|p|mb|5S|nt|chorush: Zia will have to show the spade Q |pg||
nt|chorush: he did|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Hamman going to bid 7 |pg||
mb|7S|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: zia: kokish! you bid like eric kokish!|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher: that's why there are screens here,so you don't know who you're playing with|pg||
nt|chorush: Bidding 3 spades was a very practical bid by Hamman|pg||
nt|jbgood: guess Kamil knows:)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: s2|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: a fast claim coming|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher: I always think in 3rd hand, bob, you probably know that|pg||
pc|h2|nt|Vugraphzfd: "can I see that?"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: levin and versace exchange eyeglasses|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
mc|13|nt|chorush: claim coming|pg||
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qx|o54|st||md|4SQ9HT8DJ85432CAT9,SKJ3HQ4DQTCKJ8763,SA54HK932DAK9CQ52,ST8762HAJ765D76C4|sv|e|nt|dinos1: I dont know what 2@d by E wd show|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1N|mb|2C|an|majors|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: indeed change results of b53 and there was now a new leader (well spotted:)|pg||
nt|wstuart: 3@D is inv with @D here?|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: seems so - inv on @d fit first of all|pg||
nt|jaapfr: with @H lead 9 sure|pg||
pc|h5|nt|dinos1: only @s lead wd beat|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|jaapfr: even then if ducked 2x can make|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: meck:  "thank you" for 2-2 diamonds|pg||
nt|dinos1: but it's easy looking at pd hand :)|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s8|pc|dJ|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfc: classic Meckwell |pg||
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qx|c54|st||md|4SQ9HT8DJ85432CAT9,SKJ3HQ4DQTCKJ8763,SA54HK932DAK9CQ52,ST8762HAJ765D76C4|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfd: players back|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia examines back of 7@S card to admire what it scores|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|1H|nt|chorush: A spec tells me that they stopped in 6 spades in the open room which would mean 11 imps to Nickell|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|wstuart: They should be congratulated for making it 5 whole boards before requiring a break.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher pointing at all the bids around the tray, twirling his hair|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: weinstein thought about making a move|pg||
pc|h4|nt|chorush: Zia did well on the last hand to show the spade Q. In the other room they denied the spade Q and stopped in 6|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia pours a soft drink while levin contemplates|pg||
pc|hK|nt|Vugraphzfd: another lightning pass from zia|pg||
pc|hA|nt|jbgood: and then Zia gets to show his clubs - if Ham passes - not so|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia: 1@S distributional, 4144 or 4-5|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher and hamman whispering about the inferences as well|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: dummy hits.  hamman: "oh well"|pg||
nt|athene: hi good evening everyone|pg||
nt|chorush: Hamman is concerned that 3NT was a make. And it might be|pg||
nt|jbgood: or was it "not so well"?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia spreads dummy's clubs halfway across the table.  fleisher asks if he can straighten them.  zia: put them wherever you want - kamil and kibitzers have a laugh|pg||
nt|wstuart: Note that Hamman was content that his vlaues were expressed by the simple 3@D bid in competition.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: hamman takes his glasses off, says "well" again, still planning|pg||
nt|wstuart: I see many players who bid 3@D on very minimal values regularly, but when they have a goodish hand, they have no way to bid it.|pg||
nt|chorush: I'm not sure that is true. I don't know what dbl of 2H would mean as they play|pg||
nt|jbgood: quite a few would have bid 1 NT instead of 2@d on Zia's hand. Perhaps he regrets it . in the post mortem|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: levin, like hamman, has his reading glasses back on|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher seemed unprepared|pg||
nt|warrens:  I think it was easier in this room, since partner cue-bid, which Zia took as showing a fit.  in the other room East had reversed, so it wasn't clear he had support|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: and levin is again squirming in his chair|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d6|nt|Vugraphzfd: for the low club exit|pg||
nt|wstuart: if you[re sure your pard is unbalanced 2@D has a lot going for it vs 1NT.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: lots of sniffling at this table, hamman then zia then fleisher|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kamil bobs his head to some rhtyhm only he can hear|pg||
nt|chorush: 5 clubs is a good contract that would be done in by the 4-0 break. If they tap Hamman hand by making him ruff a heart kamil gets a third club trick in 5 clubs|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: toying with @d6|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|d5|nt|jbgood: and 3@d makes now|pg||
nt|chorush: Kamil has to win the first club to lead a heart or else duck 2 clubs|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: director policing rule that kibitzers may not join vugraph tables midway through.  so for anyone in louisville who wants to watch the semis in person, be on time for the start of ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: the session.|pg||
nt|jbgood: still I think Hamman would get 2 spades .5 diamonds a club and a heart?|pg||
nt|chorush: In the other room 5 clubs did go down 1, probably by establishing a 3rd trump trick, so 5-6 imps are at stake here|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher gesturing with his hand trying to look a few tricks ahead.  hamman still as usual|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|chorush: I agree Warren|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|nt|Vugraphzfd: had @ST chosen at the beginning of that long think, eventually went with @S9|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: hamman puts down his cards and crosses his arms|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|d8|pc|c8|pg||
nt|warrens:  endplay for +2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c5|mc|10|nt|chorush: This will be a poor result for Levin Weinstein. They should not be surprised to lose quite a bit|pg||
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qx|o55|st||md|1SQJ853H743DK43C92,ST42HAJTDQJT2C863,SAK96HQDA976CQJT5,S7HK98652D85CAK74|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|an|strong art|nt|jaapfr: nice puzzle for specs  could 54 3nt be made with a @S lead (DD solution np:)|pg||
mb|2H|mb|d|nt|bigtrain: X = 6-7 and some awkward positives|pg||
nt|bigtrain: usually 6-7 though|pg||
nt|dinos1: how u make it?|pg||
mb|3H|nt|dburn: may end up in 4@s anyway, I guess|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: they play neg free bid style here (2@S 4-7 NF)?|pg||
nt|dburn: pass-pass-3@s-pass-?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: no 2@S would have been GF natural|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|dburn: but the first hand I saw today, I thought my computer must be broken - Meckwell were playing in 2NT|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|wstuart: lol  that means they must have belonged in 1NT|pg||
nt|jaapfr: the pope always playing 3nt:)?|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|dinos1: @d's 4-2 w/o entry so make|pg||
nt|dinos1: if guess to lead @h now|pg||
nt|wstuart: he has to play a @H early to break communication|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg||
nt|dinos1: trump lead in OR so no problem|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sK|nt|jaapfr: solution to b54 problem: dinos was rite 3nt is beaten even if @S ducked 2x whilst declarer can not force W to trow his @H away (so also DD 3nt down with opencards)|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg||
nt|bigtrain: needed to sever the @H commincation before playing @C|pg||
nt|dinos1: and @d|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c2|nt|dinos1: well, dcl hoped E has @hAK|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dJ|mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfc: Rodwell:  good lead|pg||
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qx|c55|st||md|1SQJ853H743DK43C92,ST42HAJTDQJT2C863,SAK96HQDA976CQJT5,S7HK98652D85CAK74|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher: what were your spades, bob?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: levin: would have to lead a spade to beat 3NT|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: kamil: AJT9! that was the problem. think I could have done better|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia visibly frustrated at walking into that endplay|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: a few tricks before he was actually thrown in|pg||
nt|chorush: Suddenly a 27 imp margin in this match. Fleisher needs to start getting some back before time runs out|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|jbgood: normal 4@h - going down - here|pg||
mb|2H|nt|chorush: This should be a 2nt rebid and hesitant raise to 3NT by Kamil|pg||
nt|chorush: srry, a raise in heart|pg||
nt|jbgood: some play 2 NT - others play 4@h on this N hand|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|chorush: although in the distinct minority, I believe that Fleisher should still rebid 2NT|pg||
nt|warrens:  typical aggressive 3nt in the other room.  North might have overcalled 1nt, but Weinstein decided to double |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: levin asks versace and zia to stop the chitchat|pg||
nt|warrens:  which is also reasonable, just didn't get them to a fortunate 3nt|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: knows the situation has become serious|pg||
nt|chorush: I dont think this hand can be beaten, at least on a double dummy basis|pg||
pc|s4|nt|warrens:  Versace is sitting out the 4th quarter of his match?|pg||
pc|sA|nt|Vugraphzfd: zia: you never get to play a hand!|pg||
nt|chorush: Diamond lead is best but if a heart is led communications are gone|pg||
pc|s7|nt|Vugraphzfd: kamil: I told you, we play 1-way transfers|pg||
nt|jbgood: not so many 3 @h...|pg||
nt|chorush: This will just not fetch|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: EW lead 4th best from an honor|pg||
nt|jbgood: 3 NT next door i am told|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: presuma bly. he's been behind zia's shoulder the whole time|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|nt|chorush: I would be shocked to see anything make but I expect 4H to be minus more than 3NT|pg||
pc|d2|nt|tez: bakalým batýrabilecekler mi|pg||
nt|tez: hi all..sry|pg||
nt|jbgood: @d Ace: I want to protect my heart trick!|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher again counting out line of play and sighs|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|chorush: Had Zia led a diamond, declarer would have to counter with a heart; otherwise he would be going set|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: I am told I have my italians mixed up and bocchi is the kibitzer. so ashamed|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: and then I blinked and lost the play|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o56|st||md|2S75HKT653DCKT9762,S32H94DKQ854CAQ84,SKJ864H872DJ72C53,SAQT9HAQJDAT963CJ|sv|o|nt|wstuart: Keeps them in striking distance for the match.|pg||
nt|dburn: even if he did, maybe he could still have played a heart first|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|an|5-5- in other suits|nt|jaapfr: 9 boards to go with 15 imps difference can become easily very tight|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: 5@D or 3nt here?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 6@D mb|pg||
nt|dinos1: u meant 6@d?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: but to 2@D bid quarantees a @H loser:)|pg||
mb|3H|mb|4C|nt|wstuart: 6@D 75% - requiring 1 of 2 finesses to work.|pg||
nt|wstuart: and that only on a @S lead|pg||
nt|dinos1: 6@d is 100%|pg||
nt|dburn: well, it will make, but...|pg||
nt|jaapfr: for us here easy to see but for ew here:)?|pg||
nt|dinos1: hardly S has both @s K and J|pg||
nt|dinos1: dcl either disc @s on @h or vice versa|pg||
nt|wstuart: that's hardly 100%  ;)|pg||
mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|nt|dburn: what with diamonds 3-0, and all that|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i rest my case:) the problem to Martel:)|pg||
nt|dinos1: pass over 2@d showed 2- @s, right?|pg||
mb|5H|nt|dburn: he can't pass - he may try for seven|pg||
nt|wstuart: I'm not sure if EW play support DBLs - they may use DBL to show a strong NT.|pg||
nt|dburn: one would hope so|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i think X shows a strong NT for them|pg||
mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: is 5@D not meaning i had weak hand long @D i did not like yr 4@C and i can not say 4@H or 4@S??stronger than 4@D|pg||
mb|p|pc|h2|nt|dburn: maybe|pg||
nt|jaapfr: stronger than 4@D to be deleted|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|d3|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h6|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h7|pc|d9|pc|c2|pg||
pc|dA|nt|dinos1: wonder he didnt cash @h's|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dT|nt|dinos1: now only @s fin|pg||
nt|jaapfr: pls specs system questions to BIGTRAIN pls:)|pg||
pc|h3|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|bigtrain: :)|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
mc|12|nt|Vugraphzfc: short break now|pg||
nt|dinos1: dcl had to pitch @s on @h's at once, cash @dK and then X-ruff|pg||
nt|jaapfr: Fleisher to double their recovery results to win this match (first 8 boards 8 imps so if 2 imps a board last 8 boards they are the winners:)|pg||
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qx|c56|st||md|2S75HKT653DCKT9762,S32H94DKQ854CAQ84,SKJ864H872DJ72C53,SAQT9HAQJDAT963CJ|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfd: zia: I should have doubled|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kamil: ok I'm going back to passing|pg||
mb|1D|nt|chorush: Zia did not bid 1 spade|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Vugraphzfd: he did not - the keys are just next to each other|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|warrens:  an excellent 6@d here|pg||
mb|3H|nt|chorush: yes, indeed. |pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|athene: some might just pass with west but that can lead to some disasters if partner is not sure whether it's a penalty pass or not|pg||
nt|athene: after the redouble|pg||
nt|warrens:  interesting bid by Hamman|pg||
mb|p|mb|4N|nt|warrens:  does Zia know that 4@C is artificial?  why not raise otherwise?|pg||
nt|chorush: I expect Bob to use RKC here|pg||
mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|nt|jbgood: 3 @s -- tu|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia: 9 is either shortness or 98|pg||
nt|warrens:  oh, right, he was cue-bidding South's other suit.  |pg||
mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: zia discussing with levin what X of 4@C would have shown|pg||
nt|chorush: In the other room Meckwell got to 4 spades, got the diamond Q lead and declarer played a club before a heart, going set 1|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: levin says zia is fishing and he would alert if it was alertable|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
nt|chorush: This hand looks cut and dried but i dont think that it is necessarily. A club switch and some interesting things could happen|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: then asks: "what do you lead from this?" and levin answers:"third from even low from odd"|pg||
pc|cT|nt|Vugraphzfd: may be some psychology here based on the earlier discussion|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|Vugraphzfd: may regret blocking the diamonds|pg||
nt|athene: i would have thought zia would want to be forcing north|pg||
nt|chorush: No, he will throw the diamond ace as he draws trumps|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: ah! good play|pg||
nt|athene: the traditional defence to a 2-suiter is to try to force|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: too busy reporting to analyze :(|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c3|nt|chorush: the traditional defense occurs though when you know there is a 2 suiter|pg||
pc|d3|nt|jbgood: no problem now - claim |pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h9|nt|athene: well zia can work out that declarer has spades and diamonds, if hamman has a normal t/o x shape?|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|s2|pc|h7|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|nt|warrens:  if trumps are 2-1 he has a claim.  with 3-0 he can crossruff|pg||
pc|s3|nt|Vugraphzfd: zia: mmm, sexy!|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|chorush: Had Zia led the club K they would have beaten this. Declarer would likely discard a heart, but Zia could then play heart K and another heart|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|d4|pc|s4|pg||
nt|chorush: yes, he has done this well. If he had not done so he would wind up having to take a finesse|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|h6|pg||
pc|sT|pc|c6|pc|d8|mc|12|nt|warrens:  carefully and well done|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: smoke break|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia laughing about the 5@D disaster from last quarter and that it was undoubled|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: -1100 instead -400 might have swung this match|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia and bocchi discussing future tournaments in london, paris, poland|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: smokers return|pg||
pg||
qx|o57|st||md|3S6HAJT862DJ6C8532,SAQJ932H9DQT72CJ9,SKT5HK74D984CAKQ4,S874HQ53DAK53CT76|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|3H|nt|jaapfr: the old 4@D bid as S would create a lot of problems for EW|pg||
nt|wstuart: I'm mildly surprised S didn't Texas into 4@H on this hand.|pg||
mb|3S|nt|wstuart: with 6-4 distr, I can imagine makes that N wouldn't accept an invitation on.|pg||
mb|4H|nt|jaapfr: to find 4@S although 4@H is as well likely to go down 1|pg||
nt|bigtrain: opposite 14-16 i thinki he was planning on inviting|pg||
mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|wstuart: right- I'm just surprised he didn't tzake the 2 way shot of 4@D initially|pg||
pc|cA|nt|dinos1: 6 imps|pg||
nt|jaapfr: +200 best result for NS whilst likely 4@H down 1|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|wstuart: keeps them out of 4@S on some hands and may make a game when N won't accept.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c2|nt|wstuart: This will tighen the match up a bit.|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|dburn: declarer at the other table did quite well to make 4@h|pg||
nt|jaapfr: oefff fine 4@H made finesse @HQ wd|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 105-96|pg||
nt|dburn: after all, he had no opposition bidding|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h3|nt|dburn: and yet he finessed in hearts - maybe he had some opposition heavy breathing|pg||
nt|dinos1: mb Steve played for a swing finessing @hQ|pg||
nt|wstuart: it's times like this where you wish you could tell teh players there was nothing left to think about.|pg||
nt|dburn: as well he might have done, given West's problem after 1NT-pass-4@d-[huff, pass]-4@h-pass-pass-[huff, pass]|pg||
nt|jaapfr: told that based on the fact that Zia thought so long about y or no bidding 4@S declarer there concluded to finesse @HQ:)|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h9|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i am told|pg||
pc|h6|pc|s3|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|h2|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|h8|pg||
pc|s9|pc|c4|pc|d3|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|jaapfr: and Zia said after that SORRY|pg||
mc|9|nt|jaapfr: after the play|pg||
pg||
qx|c57|st||md|3S6HAJT862DJ6C8532,SAQJ932H9DQT72CJ9,SKT5HK74D984CAKQ4,S874HQ53DAK53CT76|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfd: 8 boards left|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|nt|athene: 4@H now from north?|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|jbgood: unintersting heart game here.. |pg||
nt|athene: it's quite likely opps have a big fit in a minor, so you want to get in there|pg||
nt|athene: just because you have spades is no reason to bid less|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: hamman passed quickly after the jump raise and fleisher held the tray for a moment|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: zia reluctant to pass|pg||
mb|p|pc|dA|nt|Vugraphzfd: levin hastily sorts his hand|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|nt|poohbear: Perhaps Zia's hesitation will get devlarer to guess the @H q|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s4|nt|chorush: When playing with screen the player on the right controls the tray and can pause for a moment before passing it under the screen if he doesn't want the other side to be aware of ...|pg||
nt|chorush: the fast tempo|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: levin coughing - runs to get water|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|s2|pg||
mc|10|nt|chorush: this is not a bad play by a team that may suspect they are trailing|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia: sorry [for the hesitation]|pg||
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qx|o58|st||md|4SQJHJT752DCT98765,SA32HQ43DAT942CA4,ST976HKDKQ85CKQJ3,SK854HA986DJ763C2|sv|b|nt|wstuart: playing the last trump in case there is a squeeze against 4@D and the @HK in the same hand.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|wstuart: true - both @HAK and 4@D in same hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|dburn: is that an upgrade?|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: do East-West play weak no trump throughout?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 7b 10 imps a piece of cake:)|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|wstuart: 3 aces with a 5 card suit to work on is a very strong hand.|pg||
nt|wstuart: I very much agree with the upgrade.|pg||
nt|dburn: oh, so might I - just wondering if it is one|pg||
nt|wstuart: 2@D is GF checkback I think.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: except 3rd and 4th seats I think|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: no one seems to know - maybe Stansby does|pg||
nt|wstuart: I think 3rd seat vul is the olnly str NT EW play.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: has to do with my cultural background: always support the underdog |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 3rd seat vul and 4th any vul I'm told|pg||
mb|d|nt|dburn: then, he wasn't upgrading|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: ah, ty|pg||
mb|3C|mb|3D|nt|bigtrain: i'm fairly certain they play weak NT in 4th seat|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: u r right -- only 3rd vul|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he was 3rd vul|pg||
nt|wstuart: and then 2@D was natural in this case, obviously|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|d3|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c7|nt|jaapfr: with 2@D @S @H loser DD an easy 3@D made but if that covers all SD solutions we will see|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
nt|dinos1: chance for 5 imps)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: @HK solves all|pg||
nt|dinos1: 2N-1 in OR|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|cT|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
pc|sT|nt|dburn: no doubt about Zia's opening - that really was an upgrade|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d7|nt|kit: hi everyody|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 6 imps 105-102|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d8|nt|bigtrain: evening kit|pg||
nt|jaapfr: hoi|pg||
nt|wstuart: Hi Kit.|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|9|nt|dinos1: 5 imps|pg||
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qx|c58|st||md|4SQJHJT752DCT98765,SA32HQ43DAT942CA4,ST976HKDKQ85CKQJ3,SK854HA986DJ763C2|sv|b|nt|poohbear: Thats why Weinstein is one of the great poker players in the world|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|jbgood: S in trouble - not good enough for 3 @h .|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|Vugraphzfd: had to shoo another wouldbe kibitzer|pg||
mb|p|nt|poohbear: But Hamman just grunted and said nothing|pg||
nt|poohbear: Bet|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: indeed said nothing|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|jbgood: but would still have like to make a bid|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: at Las Vegas Spingold, they had the vugraph tables roped off so people wouldn't wander in|pg||
nt|chorush: Zia is out semi stealing but the fact is that the contract belongs to his side for 3 spades|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher asks about 3C.  zia through the screen: he's either got the best or the worst and most likely the worst|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: lets christal turn dummy and walks across to watch cheek|pg||
nt|chorush: Bob is the best I have ever seen at letting results roll off his back|pg||
nt|chorush: this is an exceedingly bad lie for NS|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sK|nt|lesniak: w reku masz aw10|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: hamman puts his glasses back on to find a card in his hand, takes them off again to study dummy|pg||
nt|jbgood: spades split well - so 140|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher having a soft drink while kamil shifts in his chair|pg||
nt|chorush: Kamil thinking about shift but club spots are quite discouraging|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: hamman browses the fleisher-kamil convention card|pg||
nt|chorush: so are the diamond spots|pg||
nt|poohbear: think he finds the @c shift next time :)|pg||
nt|chorush: down 2 looks like the result|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|lesniak: wist spod D982?|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|cT|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: hamman closing his eyes.  zia asks for levin's convention card|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|nt|Vugraphzfd: detached @CJ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|nt|Vugraphzfd: levin shifts in his chair and drags it closer to the table, leans forward|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: handles @h2|pg||
nt|poohbear: This si a hand that beginners get right. They just lead the @c king. Weinstein  worried that it might be declarer's 5 card suit. Now he has to keep Levin from pitching aces|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d6|nt|chorush: The club J was maybe intended to do that|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: levin moves @SJ to the end of his hand|pg||
nt|poohbear: Levin prob pitches the @s jack now|pg||
nt|poohbear: Weinstein's low @d on the ace intended as suit preference|pg||
nt|chorush: well he needs not to pitch a club|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: levin sighs and says sorry|pg||
nt|poohbear: Seems like @ss out of the picture after @c shift|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|c8|nt|jbgood: that was what was needed for 10|pg||
nt|chorush: wd|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: weinstein looks closely at the spots before turning the trick|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h6|pc|c6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c3|pc|h8|pc|c7|nt|Vugraphzfd: weinstein: there was easier ways to do this|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|c9|pc|h3|nt|poohbear: lol|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o59|st||md|1SKT42HA42DT3CQ643,SJ3HT7DKQJ8CJT752,SA86HKQJ93D76CA98,SQ975H865DA9542CK|sv|o|nt|jaapfr: i believed in ot|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|bigtrain: 14-16 NT|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|dinos1: another stiff K :)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@Cpromises 1+ 4-card major|pg||
nt|dburn: puppet whatsit? or ordinary whatsit?|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: regular stayman|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: nice stop|pg||
nt|dburn: OK - then maybe 3@h, or maybe...|pg||
pc|d4|nt|jaapfr: not that it matters a lot but if E plays @SK in trick 10 then he would make 3@D+1 is 6 imps|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg||
nt|wstuart: 2nd time we've seen NS stop in 2NT - what is the world coming to?|pg||
nt|dburn: ..say it ain't so, Joe - Meckwell in 2NT for the second time in the match|pg||
nt|kit: However, 4@H does come home it appears|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg||
nt|dburn: but though they stopped well for notrump, they stopped less well for hearts|pg||
pc|d8|nt|jaapfr: you rite again dinos:)|pg||
pc|s6|nt|dburn: not that you'd get these to 4@h except on one of your very best days|pg||
nt|dburn: but 2 IMPs for 170 against 120 - well, who knows?|pg||
nt|kit: best line in 4@H is going after clubs first, hoping for Kxx onside -- but better be careful to lay down ace!|pg||
pc|d9|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|s2|pc|dQ|pc|c8|pg||
pc|d2|mc|8|pg||
qx|c59|st||md|1SKT42HA42DT3CQ643,SJ3HT7DKQJ8CJT752,SA86HKQJ93D76CA98,SQ975H865DA9542CK|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfd: zia grabs the board: "always making 4?"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: looks at hamman's hands then moves on to  43|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|chorush: Zia's upgrade is going to get them to a non making game is my guess|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia asking kamil about the board while fleisher decides how/whether to come in|pg||
nt|jbgood: depends on N's action|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|chorush: If they got to 3NT they would be pleasantly surprised by the result but 4H is their destiny, I think|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kamil points at 2@C - zia points at X and asks: "what is that? it's not penalty then system on"|pg||
nt|chorush: 2C here is Stayman I think|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: yes, hamman wrote STAYMAN on his pad|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: but if X was penalty they may play some kind of runouts|pg||
nt|poohbear: Surprised Weinstein didnt upgrade to a Strong NT|pg||
mb|2H|nt|Vugraphzfd: Drury sequence|pg||
nt|chorush: This hand they are just a tad short of being able to bid a game, that can make with huge great luck|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|chorush: Hamman is giving Zia room. I admit I would bid 4|pg||
nt|chorush: about as high as they are going IMO|pg||
nt|chorush: but they do know Meckwell at other table and Meckwell bids a lot|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: levin huffing and puffing over his hand|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: rolls his neck, looks at the ceiling|pg||
nt|poohbear: only possible bid for Levin is 3NT . Pass seems obv to me|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher: 15-17, bob? hamman: yeah, 14 possible|pg||
nt|chorush: yes, but you might not pass if you knew the club k wassingleton and spade were Jx in the right place etc.|pg||
nt|poohbear: And if the opps dont lead from KQJx like his partner he has a chance :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: levin: take the money|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|chorush: an unfortunate lead from Hamman that will simplify things for Weinstein. Most would have led the same|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: weinstein: leave these up for a second|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: pace has slowed since the smoke break.  sweating every trick here|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|nt|poohbear: Zia might false card from QJ97x  . Opps always keep that in the backs of their mind|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h4|pc|dJ|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg||
pc|s8|nt|poohbear: its one of the reasons it's so tuff to play against him|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|c2|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d8|pc|h9|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cK|nt|chorush: Weinstein going to make 4 here to draw 2 imps closer|pg||
mc|10|nt|poohbear: 5 comparisons left|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: weinstein: oh, of course.  levin: sorry.  weinstein: it's the most pathetic game in the world|pg||
nt|drewsky: Hi everyone|pg||
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qx|o60|st||md|2SK2HA8753D73CAQJ2,S643HKJ9DK84C9873,SAQTHQT2DAT65CK54,SJ9875H64DQJ92CT6|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|bigtrain: 14-16 NT|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2@D = @H transfer|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: as expected 170 for 2 imps on 59 |pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|bigtrain: 3@S forces 4@H with 3+@H|pg||
nt|dinos1: exciting :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: only 2 imps|pg||
nt|dburn: only?|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|kit: actually a decent slam, as the mesh is good|pg||
pc|d3|nt|dburn: only four more two IMP swings like that, and...|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sT|nt|jaapfr: here a simple 4@H+2 expected in both rooms a push imo|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|d7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|nt|jaapfr: or..................?|pg||
pc|h7|nt|kit: Rodwell considering a super-safety play|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
pc|dK|nt|dinos1: safety ag 5-0|pg||
pc|d5|nt|jaapfr: he did|pg||
pc|d2|nt|kit: guarding against 5-0|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c60|st||md|2SK2HA8753D73CAQJ2,S643HKJ9DK84C9873,SAQTHQT2DAT65CK54,SJ9875H64DQJ92CT6|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfd: zia: make 3NT, 5@C 2@H @S and a @D|pg||
nt|jbgood: nonvul perhaps 3 is good Ira|pg||
nt|chorush: Hi Drew|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: tray started on the wrong side, kibitzer willenken gestures to push it back|pg||
nt|poohbear: Hi Drewsky|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|warrens:  hi Drew. welcome|pg||
mb|2D|nt|Vugraphzfd: weinstein: they'll bid NT with my hand. only question is if they play 3NT or 4H|pg||
nt|drewsky: My team lost to Fleisher yesterday,,,the pair that played the best was Kamil-Fleisher :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Well, Jon, I would bid 3 would 4 clubs in a 4-4-3-2 and this hand is a trick better. but that's just me|pg||
nt|athene: 4@H is quite aggressive|pg||
nt|chorush: Certainly perfectly reasonable to bid 3|pg||
nt|athene: 3@C forces to 3@S so zia knows 3@H isn't ending the auction|pg||
nt|athene: he wants to actually give NS a problem|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: pulls pass, reconsiders|pg||
nt|jbgood: 4@h : bidding my cards. very often right|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 3@H correct with balanced weak hand - with 5431 need to bid more that 3 after dbl at 1 @S of p|pg||
nt|athene: people sometimes bid 4@H in these situations hoping to induce a 4@S sac which might be a costly phantom|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: did his thing of pointing around the tray, waved his hand as if giving up, pulled pass, then put it back|pg||
mb|2H|nt|athene: but at this vulnerability you don't expect north to bid 4@S without some chances of making|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|chorush: A match like this is physically and mentally exhausting. Every player knows that the match might hinge on any card played or bid made|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|athene: 4@H would have been difficult with the bad break and a force on west's trumps|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|poohbear: This is a slam on the @h position. On a @d lead need 3-2 but on a non @d lead you can lead twice toward the Q10x and pick up many 4-1 breaks|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 3-2 and a correct guess but no guess here|pg||
pc|s7|nt|chorush: result from other room is making 5, so this could be one more imp to Fleisher|pg||
pc|s2|nt|athene: 4@S is just a boring one down|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: obvious to us but not to the players.  hamman still working it out|pg||
nt|athene: hamman might be working out if a heart continuation might help declarer into a dummy reversal for instance|pg||
nt|athene: but dummy is just way too short of entries for that|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kamil bolding some of the minus scores on his scorecard|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|hK|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg||
nt|chorush: One thing I can tell you is tht whoever loses this match will not sleep well tonight. Both teams have played so well|pg||
mc|13|nt|Vugraphzfd: that may actually have been @HK that zia didn't let me see|pg||
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qx|o61|st||md|3S632H86DJT62CA964,SKQHA94DQ874C8753,SA84HKQT32D953CJT,SJT975HJ75DAKCKQ2|sv|b|nt|kit: and possibly costing 1 IMP|pg||
nt|dinos1: possible 1 imp|pg||
mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|jaapfr: would he if he knew the score was 105-103:)?? to guard against 5-0|pg||
nt|dburn: well he might, but as Isaac Newton said to his dog, "thou little knowest the mischief done"|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: you all agree with 1@H here?|pg||
mb|p|pc|cJ|nt|dinos1: how strong is their 1N response?|pg||
nt|kit: why not?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: stylistically consistent|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|cT|nt|kit: and it was certainly effective, as E-W missed good game|pg||
nt|jaapfr: half of the margin reduced by the 5-0 quard:)|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
nt|dinos1: 3N+3 in OR on prev board))|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|c7|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sT|nt|jaapfr: i am told that Meckstroth always ""knows"" the score during a match with max 4-5 imps difference (against good opponents:) is that ""miracle"true??|pg||
pc|h6|pc|c8|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s9|nt|dburn: 1NT maybe timid facing a vulnerable overcall|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h7|pc|c9|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg||
nt|dburn: but East's jack of hearts is a huge card, and neither East nor West could know it|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c61|st||md|3S632H86DJT62CA964,SKQHA94DQ874C8753,SA84HKQT32D953CJT,SJT975HJ75DAKCKQ2|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|poohbear: This looks like a first round NCAA basketball game ( sorry. Second Round ) who is going to make the buzzer beater?|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: 3nt might work out here|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: can't read zia's explanation|pg||
nt|athene: most people play system on after a 1nt overcall, don't they? obviously not here|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|chorush: Looks like a misunderstanding|pg||
nt|athene: if declarer finds the @CK before he has to attack trumps he might drop the @SK, but that doesn't really help unless he can get a trump coup going|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Hamman crosses his arms and looks askew at the tray|pg||
mb|3N|nt|Vugraphzfd: something seems to have gone awry|pg||
nt|chorush: definite misunderstanding|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: hamman perhaps thinks it was system on in which case 3@S might be both minors with short spades|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: that's a common response to 1nt - 3major = minor 2-suiter|pg||
nt|chorush: In the normal course of events 3S would probably have been a singleton with 5-4-3-1 pattern|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher asking.  zia: he probably forgot that's a natural bid. all 3bids after NT overcall are natural|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|chorush: Weinstein going to see what i always see on the heart K lead|pg||
nt|warrens:  lol|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: rusinow @HQ, K is the big lead to ask for unblock|pg||
nt|poohbear: lotta blockage|pg||
nt|chorush: However, even though there are 9 tricks available, it may not be possible to take them all|pg||
nt|poohbear: Zia Needs to guess which ace Weinstein has in order to KO it first|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: hamman has scratched out the 690 and written 720 on his scorecard|pg||
nt|poohbear: so the match is tied|pg||
nt|poohbear: but it wont be after this hand|pg||
nt|chorush: This will definitely be a swing. I dont see how he can make it. Weinstein will duck the KQ of spades and then?|pg||
nt|poohbear: If declarer ducks the first @h a @c shift beats it|pg||
nt|poohbear: Though it might be a good play as who would play declarer for the @h ace|pg||
nt|poohbear: wellll its Zia :)|pg||
nt|drewsky: I would ALWAYS play declarer for the heart ace if he took this long at trick one.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: particularly a declarer who seldom takes time at trick 1 to make plans|pg||
nt|passell: can make it dbl dummy|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: could probably clean up board 60 while we're waiting but will do it after this hand|pg||
nt|poohbear: thats why it should be routine to always take some time when dummy hits|pg||
nt|chorush: yes he can|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: for those who missed it (like me!) zia dropped HK under HA on board 60 and then weeinstein played to t|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg||
nt|chorush: a fat 10 imps at stake here if he makes it, 6 if he goes set|pg||
nt|passell: cant go down if he had won the heart|pg||
pc|h4|nt|athene: it seems to be a bit masochistic to play a *slightly* different system after a 1nt overcall|pg||
nt|chorush: this cant be right|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: no one had turned their trick but zia who had already led h4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg||
nt|athene: just asking for memory lapses|pg||
nt|passell: had to play spades 1st lucky club layout made it unbeatable|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|nt|poohbear: OK that was the strangest play ever|pg||
nt|passell: maybe a tie for it Barry|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: levin moved his spades to the end of his hand as he often does before playing a card.  sighs and says sorry, again, for the delay|pg||
nt|poohbear: Oh right. There was the hand that someone couldnt run their suit with AKQx opp JXXXX letting the 10 win|pg||
nt|drewsky: I will bet Levin throws a spade...any takers ?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia grabs levin's convention card again|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h9|pg||
nt|chorush: sure found one here|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hT|pc|c2|mc|8|pg||
qx|o62|st||md|4S4HAQ632DT9842CQ5,S53H7DQJ53CAJT942,SKQ82HT984D7C8763,SAJT976HKJ5DAK6CK|sv|o|nt|jaapfr: true if @HA bfirst there was a squeeze|pg||
mb|1S|nt|kit: somehow when you bid aggressive vul games, partner turns up with that key card a lot|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|an|nat invitational|nt|jaapfr: other room 3nt i am told|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe Stansby could have risked an invitational 2NT via whatever method he had, but he had the "wrong" heart holding also|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: probably no 1@H opening in other room|pg||
nt|kit: looks like 3NT now by East|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: i agree Joe|pg||
nt|dburn: not at all easy for Martel|pg||
nt|jaapfr: so we learned of b61 to open with 1@H and do not pass these kind of 10 hcp:) lol|pg||
mb|3D|nt|dinos1: I wd respond 2N coz my 1N is 9-13 after overcall|pg||
nt|kit: 3@D call will leave 3NT behind|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 3nt down in CR?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: b61|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: I think the note says 3@D is spades, forcing -- 3@S would be NF|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: still, maybe 3NT isn't cold after all - not enough aces|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i can not get 3nt to go down in 3nt after @H lead?|pg||
pc|dT|nt|jaapfr: again about b61|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: we have been treated to some fantastic matches in this event - this certainly being one|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg||
nt|jaapfr: yyy:)|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|kit: I believe on board 61 3NT is going down!|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|jaapfr: must be @HK lead then shifted to @C A and @H return to go 3nt down on b61|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h4|pg||
nt|dinos1: is low @h signal for @d's?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: count|pg||
nt|kit: if get diamond ruff, declarer will get trumps wrong and go down|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: two bds after this.  big thanks to our fine commentators:  Wayne, Walter, Sergey,Japp and Kit|pg||
pc|c5|nt|wstuart: And many thanks to you, Joe, for your tireless reporting of the events at teh table.|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|s3|nt|kit: wow -- didn't give him the ruff, declarer may survive now|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|hK|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|h2|pc|c2|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|hT|mc|10|nt|dinos1: 3N went down on b61|pg||
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qx|c62|st||md|4S4HAQ632DT9842CQ5,S53H7DQJ53CAJT942,SKQ82HT984D7C8763,SAJT976HKJ5DAK6CK|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfd: zia again examines hamman's hand then taps the tray and says: "next one"|pg||
nt|athene: weinstein tried exactly the same thing in the other room on the spades vs hearts hand|pg||
nt|athene: on board 44|pg||
nt|athene: but north didn't bite|pg||
nt|athene: and bid the "easy" 4@S over 4@H|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia said: you have to switch to a club, I can't make it anyway|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: and weinstein admits he had @CJT doubleton.  zia: maybe not then|pg||
mb|1S|nt|athene: and indeed 4@H fell apart with the 4-1 break|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|chorush: quick rejection here|pg||
nt|drewsky: 33 unanswered for the Fleisher team as then pull into the lead|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|an|big one suited|mb|p|mb|4C|an|could be clubs or could be a move|mb|p|nt|athene: hard to see how hamman could have a worse hand, on the bidding, true :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: indeed the rejection was so quick fleisher held the tray|pg||
nt|chorush: and a quick 450|pg||
nt|athene: hard lead problem for south|pg||
nt|athene: even though opps had a sniff at slam you still have to try to beat the contract, in theory, at imps|pg||
mb|4S|nt|Vugraphzfd: loud discussion from the next table. zia: the italians are losing|pg||
nt|chorush: Hamman may still be lamenting the fact that he can't open this hand with 1 spade|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfd: zia strolls out unescorte|pg||
pc|dT|nt|chorush: This hand has some play to it|pg||
nt|warrens:  martel did well to make this at the other table|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia: I make it if I-- levin: sh!|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: connection shaky here|pg||
nt|chorush: Hamman=Zia got very lucky on the board where they had a misunderstanding. They lost only 5 imps since 4 spades went set 2|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: four tables in this room.  corresponding four tables down the hall|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: lauria comes over; zia shrugs and points at the -720|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: not, I think, so much about the overtrick as that it could be a slam swing|pg||
nt|poohbear: Who won the Cayne match?  Did Grue hold on?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: still playing.  lauria taking a break as dummy|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: all 4 tables in this room still in play|pg||
nt|warrens:  @d ruff and a @h through and he can't make it|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: quarterly scores - and finals as they come in at www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-8|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|s2|pc|dK|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: could not follow the rest of the play because of the lag but there wsa nothing to it|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: fleisher's turn to run to the men's room|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: christal reviewing folder of what look like system notes|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia, kamil discuss whether 3S would make on the 5D hand|pg||
pc|s8|nt|poohbear: this might work too|pg||
nt|warrens:  oh, he can make it now |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: hamman takes of his glasses, sits upright, crosses his arms|pg||
nt|drewsky: I think if north returned the heart nine instead of the spade he had a legitamate beat|pg||
nt|poohbear: If he plays the Ace he is playing for stiff Honor offside or 2-2 @ss and @cs 3-3. But the 8 is a very suspicious card. If Weinstein had Q84 he prob returns the 4|pg||
nt|poohbear: and he didnt even think about it|pg||
nt|passell: he had no chance with a heart back|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|mc|9|pg||
qx|o63|st||md|1S72HQJT982D965CAT,S84HA64DAKT432CJ3,SAKJT63HDJ8CK9765,SQ95HK753DQ7CQ842|sv|n|mb|2H|mb|3D|nt|jaapfr: tx Joe for yr imo mistake free performance in this exciting match:)|pg||
nt|wstuart: That's going to make it very hard for Nickell to recover in this match.|pg||
nt|dinos1: Zia played @h back after @hQ lead|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|d5|nt|kit: Martel might have bid 3NT, but 3@S call silenced him|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hA|nt|wstuart: I was betting on an undo there.  :)|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|nt|wstuart: Japp, you jinxed Joe.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg||
nt|jaapfr: what is jinxed meaning?|pg||
pc|d2|pc|sK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
nt|jaapfr: sorry Joe:(|pg||
mc|8|nt|kit: has to draw trump -- 2 of spades must get overruffed|pg||
nt|wstuart: I guess it's like a mild curse. - You said "mistake free performance" which caused the gods to make him click the wrong Q.  |pg||
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qx|c63|st||md|1S72HQJT982D965CAT,S84HA64DAKT432CJ3,SAKJT63HDJ8CK9765,SQ95HK753DQ7CQ842|sv|n|mb|2H|mb|3D|nt|Vugraphzfd: pardon that little bit of housekeeping.  for the other room who might be confused|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|athene: hamman thinks the hand is too good for 2@S?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia peeking again at previous hand|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|chorush: He might. We will never find out|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Im sure he will bid 4 spades here|pg||
nt|athene: maybe he was worried his partner might pass a 2@S raise with a minimum hand but heart fit and they could miss 4M|pg||
nt|athene: but surely 2@S is the normal action|pg||
nt|chorush: Think he is worried that there could be a slam as indeed there would if pard had the club ace instead of diamond ace|pg||
mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|warrens:  this makes 3nt by E-W, but auction started the same at each table |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: levin: I don't know ... weinstein: I certainly don't think we play it forcing|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: weinstein: hold on zia! I know you know what to play - I'm still thinking|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|nt|Vugraphzfd: zia picked up his cards before the tray was pushed back|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|sJ|pc|h3|pc|d9|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: weinstein sighs.  levin sighs.  playing like the match is still on a knife edge|pg||
nt|chorush: looks like down 2 for 3 imps and a 13 imp lead for Fleisher going into the last board|pg||
nt|poohbear: Hamman makes a " standard " play . Refuses to overruff with a natural trump trick|pg||
nt|poohbear: I have a wire on the last board|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: please don't spoil the suspense|pg||
nt|poohbear: ok|pg||
nt|warrens:  this could result in down several|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: weinstein: I'm tired|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia and levin also look tire|pg||
nt|poohbear: Shouldnt have stayed up half the night playing money Bridge on BBO :P|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d3|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|h2|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o64|st||md|2SQ874HJT6D9764C97,SAKJ95HA95DT82CQ4,ST6H8743DKJ5CAK63,S32HKQ2DAQ3CJT852|sv|e|nt|jaapfr: ic|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|mb|p|nt|wstuart: This is the final board of the match.  Don't all rush to the exit to get to the other room after this board is completed.|pg||
mb|2C|mb|d|nt|jaapfr: what can happen here to close the 6 imps gap?|pg||
nt|dinos1: XX now?|pg||
nt|dburn: if this is the final contract, there may be no need|pg||
nt|wstuart: S will surely pull to 2@D showing red suit choice?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: wow|pg||
nt|jaapfr: great stuff and exciting until the last board:)|pg||
nt|dburn: well, maybe|pg||
nt|wstuart: Ugh - this ain't gonna be pretty.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|nt|kit: I think Meckstroth should have bid 1NT, not 2@C|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg||
nt|dburn: so did Rodwell|pg||
nt|dinos1: even vul 3N is less than heavy penalty|pg||
nt|kit: this should be down 5 at least, I think, maye 6|pg||
nt|jaapfr: can go for an above -1100 and will close the match with Fleisher as winners|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 63 could be a swing to Nickell, if they get to 3N -- 9 tricks there aren't there|pg||
nt|wstuart: Good point, Kit.  S played N for 5 @C when he didn't pull to 1NT|pg||
nt|dinos1: agree, 1N is most flexible|pg||
nt|dburn: in the days of auction bridge, you could reredouble, which might have been a better description still|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg||
nt|wstuart: Boy, no one will realize what a nailbiter this match has been by looking at teh final score.|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|nt|jaapfr: what a comeback during the last 8 boards almost unbelieveble|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: screen down, Martel writing questions|pg||
nt|dinos1: b62 - 4@s-1, so match is over|pg||
nt|jaapfr: an over 50-0 score for 8 boards|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: really fine match -- congrats to both teams|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|passell: 43 unanswered imps for fleisher|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|jaapfr: and this one to be added|pg||
nt|jaapfr: -100 or even -800 will score highly|pg||
nt|jaapfr: -1100|pg||
nt|jaapfr: for EW|pg||
nt|passell: match would have been tied had zia made a difficult 3nt on 61|pg||
nt|wstuart: Actually, they would have been leading by 5 woldn't they (win 5 instead of lose 6)?|pg||
nt|dinos1: win 10|pg||
nt|jaapfr: can you give the final answer to b61 could it be made if @SKQ soon and ducked??|pg||
nt|wstuart: Oh, yes, it was vul, so they would have been up 10 had Zia brought that in.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h8|pc|cT|nt|dinos1: ruff high - and down 6|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c4|nt|jaapfr: -1400 is the final blow|pg||
nt|jaapfr: or -110 now|pg||
nt|jaapfr: -1100|pg||
nt|dinos1: was @d ruff|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|dinos1: not now|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg||
nt|jaapfr: @DA first and @D was indeed -1400|pg||
mc|3|nt|wstuart: \|pg||
nt|wstuart: Stampede to the other room....|pg||
nt|jaapfr: tx all and fine day or sleep|pg||
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qx|c64|st||md|2SQ874HJT6D9764C97,SAKJ95HA95DT82CQ4,ST6H8743DKJ5CAK63,S32HKQ2DAQ3CJT852|sv|e|nt|athene: hearts a better slam than spades :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia says if hamman bids a suit over 3Nt it should be a cuebid for spades.  fleisher then asks kamil how they play it|pg||
nt|warrens:  if he tries to ruff a @C, perfect defense would get him 3, but cashing one trump prevented that|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: levin: "sorry"   weinstein: "it had play.  one day it'll make"|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Thus endeth the Match|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: levin: nice match guys|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: cayne and diamond tables still playing.  deutsch table is done|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg||
nt|chorush: its going to end very close. Probably 10 imps to Nickell here|pg||
nt|poohbear: Still plenty of hands left in @d Berg match|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia turns over h5 at once.  weinstein makes him leave it up - thinking about the hand|pg||
nt|chorush: Keep in mind that the scores we have up here are not official|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: "you can play a @c but I'm still going to think"|pg||
nt|poohbear: yu mean to fleisher|pg||
pc|c2|nt|Vugraphzfd: zia very fast again - not one to take time making plans - fleisher has to ask to see the spots again|pg||
nt|athene: south might duck this to give declarer a losing option - he could then try a low spade playing for Ax / Jxx|pg||
nt|athene: but he shouldn't do that because with Ax the defender should not duck the queen|pg||
nt|athene: it would just be a grosvenor|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia: you are thinking right? just wanted to make sure you knew I played|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cQ|nt|jaapfr: you have the link to the scoring of all QF again?|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|chorush: sorry, I turned that around in my mind. The 10 imps will go to fleisher|pg||
nt|bigtrain: http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-8|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-8|pg||
nt|warrens:  yes, ira, Fleisher will win by over 20|pg||
pc|h3|nt|jaapfr: ty |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: clarifying that @H6 is count and @C7 is smith - but academic in the face of 1100|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: thanks to the commentators and spectators for joining us|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: weinstein: mr. mahmood played club in under a second and now he thinks!|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: and thanks for all the kind private chat.  glad to be here bringing it to the rest of you all over the world|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: levin looks at some previous hand then slams the board onto the floor|pg||
nt|jaapfr: small condoleance : making results in -10 imps here as even if it was not made it was -15 imps|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia still staring at the dummy.  levin sighs for the thousandth time|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: 3 called but 2 played|pg||
nt|athene: if anyone is not sure about "grosvenor" - the basic idea is, you should not play for a defender to have done something "wrong"|pg||
nt|athene: so|pg||
nt|athene: let's say south did duck the @SQ|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: zia: "I thought you were showing out!" when kamil took @SA|pg||
nt|athene: you should still continue with the king from hand, not a little one|pg||
nt|athene: because if the ace was doubleton, they could always have got 2 tricks legitimately anyway|pg||
nt|athene: so you never lose by it|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c3|nt|athene: what you want to avoid is losing 2 tricks where you "shouldn't" with best play all round|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|Vugraphzfd: everyone clusters around to check the score.  that's all for now, back in maybe 20 minutes|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|cT|nt|jaapfr: in other words to lose with 108-131  or 108-136 (theoretically if down) not a big deal to end with|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg||
pc|c8|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c5|nt|Vugraphzfd: grue-cayne match still going on for everyone asking|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: @C5 called.  weinstein still looking at previous trick.  levin: sorry, I'm falling asleep|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg||
mc|11|nt|Vugraphzfd: players check the score.  hamman and zia believed they had lost|pg||
nt|poohbear: Go to bed Bobby. You're  a winner|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: ok, we're done.  thank you all and good night|pg||
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