vg|2011 Vanderbilt R8 B,Segment 3 of 4,I,33,48,Diamond,57,Berg,54|
rs|1NE-1,2DS+3,7CW=,6CW+1,6CN=,6CS-1,3SE+1,4SE=,4SN=,4CW-1,3NN=,2CWx-3,4HE=,3SS-2,3NN=,3NN-1,6DE=,7CSx-3,6HEx-2,5DS=,4SS+2,4SN+1,4HN+1,4SS+3,3NN=,3NN+3,2HE+1,2NE+1,3NN=,3NN=,5HN=,4HS=|
pn|Moss,Bertens,Gitelman,Bakkeren,Muller,Hampson,De Wijs,Greco|pg||
qx|o33|st||md|3SKJ9HA4DKJ864CAT5,S653HQT8D97CQ8732,SQT87HK965DT532CJ,SA42HJ732DAQCK964|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 2@C=11-15 HCP, 6+@C|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@C looks like version where some 1-suit game force|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C always @D   i don't think i've seen that version before  |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: I think he wrote @d, but not sure - there are a bunch of notes already on the page and I'm not sure if the one that says @d is from this hand|pg||
mb|p|pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: i think PUPPET to 3@D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but Hampson's 4@D suggests you may be right|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Hampson wrote in nice big letters 6+ @ds, INV+|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and there we have it  Sherlock Martel gets all the facts|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: i think 4@H would have been Key Card for @D|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: vP asking - says that 41d was clearly forcing, 4@h would have been RKCB so 4N = @h cue bid|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|d2|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: all 3rd Quarter scores now posted at  http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s3|pc|d5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|c33|st||md|3SKJ9HA4DKJ864CAT5,S653HQT8D97CQ8732,SQT87HK965DT532CJ,SA42HJ732DAQCK964|sv|o|nt|yuval10: very close match so far|pg||
nt|brolucius: I heard about a great defense from Zia this morning. His partner, who had opened 4H led the @HA against a slam. Dummy went down with a singleton and Zia false-carded the @HK from ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: @HK-x. Declarer ruffed the next round high from A-K-Q-x and Zia's J-x-x in trumps was promoted. Brilliant!|pg||
mb|1N|mb|d|nt|hedyg: eventually the scores from all matches will show here : http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-8|pg||
mb|r|nt|yuval10: already some excitement, 6@d was made in the OR|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: some commotion as other tables restart|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Moss still studying.  deck may seem to have too many points in it|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hamman had only a sevn-card suit but it might easily have been 8-card.|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann asks about 4D.  Gitelman writes: "I think splinter"|pg||
nt|harmon: Hi all|pg||
nt|harmon: Team captain here so iahve to behave:)|pg||
nt|rhelle: hello everyone|pg||
mb|2C|nt|yuval10: 5NT is interesting, of course in standart bridge it means to pick between 6 or 7, but it doesn't seem likely considering West' strength|pg||
nt|dburn: I guess North might bid 4NT|pg||
nt|brolucius: West leaps to 4@S rather than tip his hand with a cue-bid response. Interesting. He makes life more difficult for N/S that way.|pg||
nt|dburn: intending to convert clubs to diamonds to show 6-4|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: with 5-5, he would bid diamonds at once|pg||
mb|2D|nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann exhales deeply. looks tired|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|rhelle: 1NT by North is normally 12.5 - 15|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: green cards placed delicately on the tray|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar sees them when the tray comes back, puts his cards down and his hands to his temples|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: nice easy board to start the set|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar leans back, crosses his legs, still thinking|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is great to see the top stars bid these competitive deals - a very difficult area for most of us.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Grue's strength limited by failure to open Precision @C|pg||
pc|d7|nt|vugraphzfe: fingering @DA and @DQ|pg||
nt|ritong: +|pg||
nt|dburn: as it is, diamonds may play better than hearts|pg||
nt|dburn: this probably isn't the real auction|pg||
nt|rhelle: I have no idea what is going on - looks like a transcription error|pg||
pc|dT|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "sorry if this was wrong"|pg||
nt|harmon: yes|pg||
nt|dburn: but if North passed, it would be|pg||
pc|dA|nt|yuval10: 6@d actually a lot better than 6NT, you can make it even when the K@h is off ( playing small @s from hand towards the Q, then if south doesn't jump you discard the K@s over the 4th ...|pg||
nt|yuval10: @c and if he does you can discard 2 @h's )|pg||
nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/lauria-versace.pdf|pg||
nt|dburn: but both contracts have issues of trump control|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Lauria is asking about 4nt|pg||
nt|hedyg: to watch multiple tables: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|dburn: not Blackwood|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi Liz :)|pg||
nt|rhelle: I think NS are in 2@d|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|chorush: Hello everyone|pg||
pc|dK|nt|hedyg: he needs an entry to his partners hand to beat this|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d2|pg||
nt|hedyg: no he doest|pg||
nt|hedyg: doesnt|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he has three top tricks - the club ruff is for down two|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes|pg||
nt|dburn: although I guess that after the ruff, Grue can pick up the hearts|pg||
mc|11|nt|Jacki: welcome Ira chorush|pg||
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qx|o34|st||md|4SA985HQ4DK8642C42,SHA8752DA9CAQJ875,ST42HJT96DJT75C93,SKQJ763HK3DQ3CKT6|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: i wonder if Greco intended 4N as Exclusion Key Card with 0@C|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: oh -- missed the note 4N=@H cue|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: The problem was that both were cue-bidding second round controls |pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S=10-15 HCP  4+@S  maybe 4@S and any 5+ other suit|pg||
mb|2C|an|GF|nt|ahollan1: Verhees doesn't care about a 2nd suit :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: will vP show his @H now?   maybe not strong enough opposite Limit Raise|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but then again ...|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: with 5@S & 5@H the opening bid would be 1@H -- so vP sequence shows LONGER @H|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Verhees asks about 3@s and Greco says showed club support|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other match is playing different boards, but you can still get dizzy watching the other 3 tables using http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 5@D will probably talk Greco out of leading that suit -- so 5@S will probably make [if vP doesn't get excited by @C void]|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: We thought they'd change the lineup here so there would be one slow and one fast at each table, but they didn't (Schwartz had seed this 1/4)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Sorry - didn't mean that to be public, but was discussing the fact that we don't have the close Jacobs-Kang match on because they hadn't compared when this match was ready to start ...|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: there's a theory about which when to sit Big Club vs Big Club when you have the seating rights -- i just can't remember the details :(|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Ah, I'm sure you're right - if you want swings, you want your big club pair to hold different hands from the big club pair in the other room|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|mb|7C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i don't remember -- do Gitelman-Moss play Flannery?  if so, Fred will open 2@D then who knows how auction will proceed|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|c5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|nt|Vugraphzfb: I think they play weak 2@d, but not sure|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|cT|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|d9|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|cK|mc|13|pg||
qx|c34|st||md|4SA985HQ4DK8642C42,SHA8752DA9CAQJ875,ST42HJT96DJT75C93,SKQJ763HK3DQ3CKT6|sv|n|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "good pass of 5@C"|pg||
nt|ritong: and an other strret fight coming|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman: "I have to admit it occurred to me you were psyching there"|pg||
nt|hedyg: picked up the Q@H?|pg||
nt|dburn: but judging by that, he did well|pg||
nt|brolucius: A splendid opening board for us.|pg||
nt|wstuart: Hi all.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry i just walked in and I'm afraid I missed the auction|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: we lost our connection|pg||
mb|1S|nt|chorush: hi Wayne|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: NS in the OR judged very well to bid to the 5 level|pg||
mb|2C|nt|dburn: don't worry - the play is not likely to be too fast for you to keep up with from now on|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: We are all indebted to BBO for letting us watch these top tournaments free of charge. I hope they don't change their mind one day...|pg||
mb|2S|nt|yuval10: EW put maximum pressure over South|pg||
nt|hedyg: shhhhhhh! dont give them ideas!|pg||
nt|wstuart: Have Chips and Lew changed to a str NT vul?|pg||
nt|wstuart: *Chip|pg||
nt|chorush: yes|pg||
nt|007 joosth: always thinking  about chips?  :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: but it seem as if he has a 5@h now|pg||
mb|3H|nt|hedyg: 1@c= 2+|pg||
nt|brolucius: I will still be free for commentators, Hedy. No need to worry.|pg||
nt|chorush: that dbl has just transformed this hand from something resembling a push to a swing for Nickell|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: chip wrote 12-14|pg||
nt|wstuart: He wrote 12-14 on the notepad the operator says.  This is very un-Chip-like.  He's a very aggressive player and I wouldn't expect him to downgrade a controlish 15 HCP, even though ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: it is 4333.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: well at least im here now for the auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|rhelle: 6@c looks like a decent contract - not easy to bid though|pg||
mb|4C|nt|ritong: a short fight, finally|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss grimaces a bit, points at dummy, still making plans|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|nt|ritong: shorter than next room, where EW pushed a bit|pg||
nt|chorush: It may only be 3rd 4th position vul|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: South must've been convinced that his Partner has void @s|pg||
nt|wstuart: At one time they played 12-14 in all seats *except* 3rd, where it was 15-17.|pg||
mb|6C|nt|yuval10: on surface it looks like N's double meant to discourage his Partner of carry on|pg||
nt|brolucius: Although if the kibitzers had to pay they would probably be less tolerant of the mistakes that the commentators make.|pg||
nt|dburn: optimistic, that - should South really have both majors stopped and the ace of clubs?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: still, this lead may let him escape for down only one|pg||
nt|007 joosth: the result is an impossible 3NT in the wrong hand|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|vugraphzfe: some question whether the 84-44 carryover is correct|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol no Liz|pg||
nt|brolucius: This is E/W bidding.|pg||
nt|dburn: he won't make it with these cards, but maybe has more chance on the actual borad 3|pg||
nt|dburn: no, this is North-South bidding - they're just not bidding board 2 again|pg||
nt|harmon: theyve crossed rooms|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: we got disconnected sorry|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss:"just to show off"|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cT|nt|chorush: yes, and a fat 13 imps to Nickell|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|c8|nt|wstuart: No real problems discarding with Katz's hand.  Martel is hoping for a miracle, but it doesn't appear to be a religious holiday for him.|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|hedyg: A@S?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Even if one of the majors was bare, West might have made an unlucky choice of lead. It was adventurous bidding by N/S that could have worked better.|pg||
nt|dburn: true, and I guess if South had a couple of aces, the unstopped major might well be 4-4 anyway|pg||
nt|brolucius: Good point.|pg||
nt|dburn: downgrade previous comment to "mildly optimisitic"|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|nt|hedyg: so he did play the A@S|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|c5|pc|s4|pg||
mc|13|nt|harmon: excellent result|pg||
nt|rhelle: Yes, well bid|pg||
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qx|o35|st||md|1SAT87HA2DAK632CT9,SQ9532HD9854C8763,SKJ6HQJ753DCAKQJ5,S4HKT9864DQJT7C42|sv|e|mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: Fred-Brad down in 5@H on  49  where Greco-Hampson down in 6@D|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = 10-15 HCP  5+@H & 4+@C|pg||
mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: just what vP was hoping to hear|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|an|alerted|nt|ahollan1: Jan is right  again  1@H opening from Fred on  50|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: what a terrible lack of choices for Hampson on opening lead|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1:  50  4@S -- NS barely competed  EW didn't even sniff for slam|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i have friend who would yell at partner/teammates when they led away from unsupported Jack -- even when it was right!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|h4|pc|d2|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|h3|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|h5|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|s8|mc|12|pg||
qx|c35|st||md|1SAT87HA2DAK632CT9,SQ9532HD9854C8763,SKJ6HQJ753DCAKQJ5,S4HKT9864DQJT7C42|sv|e|nt|vugraphzfe: moss very chatty.  asks whether @CT was suit pref|pg||
nt|ferlema: ok|pg||
nt|wstuart: I would not have opened 1@H, either, unless in the context of a strong @C system.|pg||
mb|1C|nt|chorush: Every conventional use of a bid has some downside. Stayman, probably the most uniformly played convention of all time, had a big downside on this hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|wstuart: So, I tihnk their NT in 3rd seat white is 12-14 (15-17 vul 4rd only).|pg||
mb|1N|nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: I'm sure Stansby will upgrade this hand to a 15-17 NT evaluation.|pg||
nt|chorush: you are probably correct Wayne|pg||
mb|2C|nt|vugraphzfe: kibitzer sits behind brad.  our first as opposed to the mob hovering at the zia-hamman table|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@s = @h, 9+, unbalanced|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman, after sitting still for a minute, grabs the pass card off his tray|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1NT = relay|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@c = 4+@c|pg||
mb|2D|nt|ritong: he had no real reason to get involved here|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: a strong @c?|pg||
nt|dburn: by the look of things|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@d = relay|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|harmon: another 6c hand|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@s = at least 55 in @h and @c|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2NT = relay|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 3@s = eaxctly 3=5=0=3|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|007 joosth: a hard job to do|pg||
nt|wstuart: Let me type tihs more accurately**So, I think their NT in 3rd seat white is 12-14 (15-17 vul 3rd only).|pg||
mb|3N|nt|wstuart: 2@D was GF checkback, I assume.|pg||
nt|chorush: Specs are asking why Stansby would upgrade his hand. the reason is the good 5 card suit mostly|pg||
nt|wstuart: The very fine controls are another reason.|pg||
nt|wstuart: I more true method than the A=4, K=3, Q=2, etc evaluation is to count Aces as 4.5, kings as 3 and Q and J as a little less than the Goren HCP representatoin.|pg||
nt|chorush: There is no obvious eighth trick here much less a ninth, so Meckwell did well to make 2NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 3NT is to play|pg||
nt|rhelle: maybe 6NT now?|pg||
nt|harmon: =h-5|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|yuval10: time to stop now|pg||
nt|algraves: hello|pg||
nt|brolucius: That lead would have paid off if East held a singleton club.|pg||
nt|rhelle: 17 opposite 16+ ... he won't stop under slam|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@c = 4 controls, 15+|pg||
nt|rhelle: (A=2 controls, K=1)|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: NS convention card from 2010 European Championship is online -- but it won't give you the details Rob is providing|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/netherlands/muller-dewijs.pdf|pg||
mb|6C|mb|p|nt|rhelle: 4@h shows a @h picture - can't have 3, he would have supported them earlier|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|yuval10: this seem to have no play at all|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW convention card from 2010 Trials   http://usbf.org/docs/2010usbc/acblcards/GrecoHampson.jpg|pg||
pc|c6|nt|wstuart: Aces and Kings gain power the more distributional the contract hands are, and aces and Kings combined with a 5 card suit for NT is a very big plus.|pg||
nt|rhelle: At first glance this looks as 1 of 2 finesses. 5@c tricks, 2@d, 1@h, 2@s = 10. An extra trick can be developed in @h or @s|pg||
nt|rhelle: so finding trick 12 is what it's all about - before giving away 2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|chorush: well, that got him up to 8|pg||
pc|hK|nt|vugraphzfe: had @H2 out but put it back|pg||
pc|hA|pc|c3|pg||
nt|wstuart: Specs ask if a 1NT rebid could conceal 1 or 2 4 card majors the way Martel-Stansby are playing, and I believe the answer is yes, they tend to rebid 1NT to show the Strong NT when ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: possible.|pg||
pc|c7|nt|rhelle: this trick will not be what South was waiting for|pg||
nt|rhelle: Chances are that the @sQ is with West now - he can see 6@h and 2@c in East already|pg||
nt|harmon: needs more than that|pg||
nt|rhelle: So he needs a double squeeze - @s@d against West, @h@d against East. But he has no @d entry ...|pg||
nt|rhelle: Not enough entries to ruff the @ds high either|pg||
nt|rhelle: Looks like he'll need the double @s finesse against West|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred: "don't worry about it"|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|harmon: no good either entriey prob|pg||
pc|h4|pc|d2|pc|c8|pg||
nt|rhelle: not now, for sure|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h6|pc|d3|nt|chorush: this looks like 5 imps to Nickell and a tied match|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg||
nt|yuval10: seem like the only possible line is to find an opp with KQ doubleton @c, or KX @c and catch him off guard for an endplay|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d7|mc|11|pg||
qx|o36|st||md|2S74HAKQJ732D64CA8,ST8H8DA975CKJT643,SQ95H94DJT32CQ952,SAKJ632HT65DKQ8C7|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal or 17+ BAL|pg||
mb|d|mb|1N|an|!C|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=0-7|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: 1@H=4+ forcing   IF 4@H, then 5+@C/@D|pg||
mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i think 1@S alerted because denies 3+@H|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: don't know the continuations, but 1N sure looks like transfer|pg||
nt|ahollan1: very nice auction to stop so low|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|s8|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: many big clubbers who use the 1M rebid to force 1 round would have South rebid 2@C to show 5-7 without 3+@H  then they'd be at least 1 level higher|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|c3|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h2|pc|c4|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h3|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|s6|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|mc|10|pg||
qx|c36|st||md|2S74HAKQJ732D64CA8,ST8H8DA975CKJT643,SQ95H94DJT32CQ952,SAKJ632HT65DKQ8C7|sv|b|nt|ritong: 13 comparisons left|pg||
nt|hedyg: Liz is catching up|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry we lost our connection|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: of course when she got disconnected the players went on|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: time to get one or two solid shots for israeli pair|pg||
nt|chorush: These two teams have a lot of history in the past 2 years, mostly in the US Team Trials|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ritong: hi yuv hi all|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@h?|pg||
mb|4H|mb|d|nt|brolucius: Losing the connection is hardly your fault, Liz, unless you were unlucky where you spilt your coffee.|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|yuval10: salut Henri|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann makes a fist to show that 2@H is strong.  gitelman gently passes|pg||
nt|wstuart: Not looking good for 4@S here, though it is a fine contract.|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: if Lew finesses he can make, but I doubt he will do that.|pg||
nt|wstuart: Maybe however.|pg||
nt|wstuart: Interesting choice here at T1|pg||
nt|wstuart: Nvm|pg||
nt|chorush: he is going to make 11 tricks whether he finesses or not, in my opinion|pg||
nt|wstuart: @H lead gives it away|pg||
nt|wstuart: I was looking at the play before I saw the @H lead.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: :)|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|nt|dburn: question of whether this goes down quickly or slowly, I guess|pg||
nt|chorush: Only way to have beaten this contract is with a club lead and a diamond ruff|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ritong: 2NT artif prolly any gf hand with no suitable rebid|pg||
nt|yuval10: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: a kind of gazzilli, just upscaled|pg||
nt|bg: letssee|pg||
nt|ritong: you think he should act?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: just the manner, softly placing the card on the tray|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar: not the worst|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: then asks who wants water; moss accepts|pg||
nt|rhelle: NS play reverse count and attitude - so the 4 is from an even number|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s8|nt|dburn: a club lead would mean quickly, this means slowly - assuming the defense does nothing silly|pg||
nt|wstuart: Doesn't 3 rds of @C beat it too, Ira?|pg||
pc|h9|nt|ritong: so far eldad has shown a strong 2 in @hs with questionable suit quality|pg||
nt|yuval10: double-dummy 6@h looks quite fair, but not today|pg||
nt|ritong: 2NT is a kind of puppet, asking opener to come back to his opening suit|pg||
nt|ritong: unless ha has real good news|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|harmon: be nice to tavel tod but that has dangers|pg||
nt|harmon: we know its safe but......|pg||
nt|harmon: travel to a diamond|pg||
nt|harmon: I type like doo doo|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dK|nt|ritong: they did not want to try the coup three in a row  remained possible, though|pg||
nt|ritong: in this context, 3@c instead of 2NT would be forcing|pg||
nt|ritong: here, pachtmann had relatively good news|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman seems always in control, never on tilt, never in a hurry|pg||
nt|ritong: moss cares about the excited part|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|hT|nt|chorush: Eventually, declarer will lead a diamond toward the dummy and on the showout, will take 3 diamond tricks|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|sT|nt|ritong: with talent|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|hedyg: he ruffed the queen? really?|pg||
nt|harmon: 6c hand was played from otherside and got a spade into the KJ made it easier I think|pg||
pc|d3|nt|wstuart: but still would lsoe 2@C, 1D and 1S?|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg||
nt|rhelle: that made it cold|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|c3|nt|ritong: so, north had relatively good news, but not enough to make a move|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman gesturing like he's counting something out|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|nt|chorush: no diamond will be lost; delarer will pitch his two losing diamonds on the AK of hearts|pg||
pc|s7|pc|c4|nt|bg: these club discards are risky if W swithches now it is not safe to set up hearts|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|wstuart: ah, of course.|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|ritong: i bet brad will try some joke about that at the table  he s facetious|pg||
pc|h2|pc|c6|nt|bg: should diccarded dia|pg||
nt|yuval10: he has 9 tricks though, 3@s, 3@d, 2@h and 1 @c|pg||
nt|bg: dis|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|s6|pc|h3|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s3|pc|h7|nt|yuval10: and he's cashing his tricks now, making 10 |pg||
nt|harmon: well thats easier:)|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o37|st||md|3SAT54HQJ6DT74C872,SQ9HA92DQ865CKQ94,SKJ873HKT875DA2C3,S62H43DKJ93CAJT65|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3S|an|weak|nt|ahollan1: Nickell leading O'Rourke by 1   in case you're wondering that's where all the other kibitzers are|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: it's official  EW have done a lot of bidding here|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: the choices --- go down slowly   or   go down quickly|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i bet we could negotiate for down 1 right now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: it's clear that Verhees has abandoned the option to go down quickly|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nice overtake|pg||
pc|c4|pc|s3|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: i'm sure on the lead that it is known @D4-1  overtake forces Verhees to win trick 1 -- even if he didn't plan to|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c37|st||md|3SAT54HQJ6DT74C872,SQ9HA92DQ865CKQ94,SKJ873HKT875DA2C3,S62H43DKJ93CAJT65|sv|n|mb|1H|nt|hedyg: Liz is going to have a tough time if they play and claim so quickly|pg||
nt|chorush: Very friendly diamond layout for this slam, presuming it is reached|pg||
nt|chorush: I don't know their methods assuming there are methods for hands like these|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: True, though it doesn't really require a friendly layout to make.|pg||
nt|Jacki: Live streaming available here:   www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion  If anyone knows the names of the players at the table, share with us|pg||
mb|2H|nt|yuval10: this one looks routine|pg||
nt|ritong: other room EW got offboard due to the systemic 2@c opening|pg||
nt|ritong: showing the equivalent of a very good weak 2 in @cs|pg||
nt|ritong: if you wonder how they treat very strong hands, big @c is the answer|pg||
nt|ritong: any 16+ hand is opened 1@c|pg||
nt|wstuart: There is a school of thought that one shouldn't Michaels with a 6 card Maj, however, I don't know if much analysis has been done on 7-5 bidding.  :)|pg||
nt|jillan:  looks liek Robert Levin|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: The East hand is worth an extra point, with those controls and the five-card spades.|pg||
nt|brolucius: On the convention card that I am looking at, 2NT shows only 20-21. That's puzzling.|pg||
nt|dburn: Cheek may well lead a heart, which will work rather well for him|pg||
nt|hedyg: except the @s suit is not nice and stiff AK not great for NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: so he downgraded?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Top players rarely downgrade.|pg||
mb|2N|nt|brolucius: Mind you, they don't miscount very often either.|pg||
nt|hedyg: i have 20-21(22) may have a 5 card major|pg||
nt|wstuart: As you can see from the 3@S bid - Martel is a very aggressive player, which is why I was surprised when he downgraded a control righ 15 HCP to a 12-14 NT.|pg||
mb|p|nt|jillan:  and can't miss Meckstroth....|pg||
nt|robbg:  Weinstein (r) meck (l) with backs to us|pg||
nt|chorush: I would think Katz would close the bidding with 6 hearts here, unless he thinks he has a good way to get to 7 if it is there|pg||
nt|robbg:  Levin facing|pg||
nt|rhelle: systematically, NS have to open 1@h with 55 majors|pg||
mb|3D|nt|dburn: a diamond wn't work so well|pg||
nt|algraves: hello everyone|pg||
mb|3H|nt|hedyg: 2@d is 18-19(20)|pg||
nt|dburn: in fact, it may not work at all|pg||
nt|dburn: though declarer will still have to guess the play extremely well|pg||
nt|wstuart: 4@S is a control bid in @S showing a good hand and making a slam try in @Hs.|pg||
nt|wstuart: 4NT is likely RKC|pg||
nt|wstuart: Katz will likely jump showing the number of keycards and a void.|pg||
nt|chorush: They will have a way to show a void but Katz cannot be sure the void is not opposite an ace, as it happens to be here|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jillan:  3 aces and a spade void|pg||
mb|4C|nt|yuval10: 9 easy tricks from top|pg||
nt|ritong: brad is visibly sitting on the benefits|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry, got knocked off the internet but didn't miss any of the bridge|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: seems normal|pg||
nt|wstuart: (RKC = Roman Keycard Blackwood) where there are 5 controls -  the 4 aces and the trump K.|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "that's too fast", takes time to study dummy|pg||
nt|ritong: just trying to avoid big swings|pg||
nt|ritong: if he was not doing that, he would certainly raise @ds|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss wrote: if you bid 1NT, X would be takeout. haven't discussed here|pg||
nt|ritong: which were freely bid by his pard|pg||
nt|hedyg: so now he knows no @D in N|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: 4d could be beaten2 so this is better|pg||
nt|rhelle: it bites them here ... 4@h or 4@s looks solid|pg||
nt|harmon: they play canape??|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|hedyg: why @c rather than @H?|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|rhelle: no, just to keep the relays symmetrical - it's an exception|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|bg: some may try to run club 8 now but not at imps risk of losing 4 dia tricks|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he probably knew that anyway - he would not expect Cheek to lead from @dAQ108 only against 2NT - all pass|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
nt|harmon: oh ok|pg||
pc|c4|pc|s3|nt|wstuart: They claim should come right after Katz tries to sneak a @C through.|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|jillan:  NIckell again please|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|bg: if N doesnt keep his two spades E could make 4 on an andplay|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|s8|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg||
nt|rhelle: so the sequences over 1@C - 1@H are idenctical to the 1@h opening|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|yuval10: this wasn't a good day for Louisville in the NCAA tournement - the local college, led by coach Pitino, surprisingly lost to 14th seeded Morehead st. 62:61|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: I coulda doubled it, but...|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
mc|9|nt|harmon: 11 more to Diamond|pg||
pg||
qx|o38|st||md|4S943HKQ8DQJ9743C9,SKT2HT543DA8CKJT2,SAQ85HAJ9DK2CA875,SJ76H762DT65CQ643|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: good stuff|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: Kelsey would approve -- when you know the way defense should go -- take charge, don't give partner a chance to go wrong|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S is the only weak 2 in the EW system|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cQ|mc|9|pg||
qx|c38|st||md|4S943HKQ8DQJ9743C9,SKT2HT543DA8CKJT2,SAQ85HAJ9DK2CA875,SJ76H762DT65CQ643|sv|e|nt|brolucius: They did well to go plus on those E/W cards. |pg||
nt|jillan:  Nick bid hearts first so he should be playing right|pg||
nt|wstuart: Right - Nickell was playing it.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: east took a short break|pg||
nt|wstuart: 6@D will make on this deal, but it is an odds-off contract.|pg||
nt|jillan:  can't they make 6@D here as the cards break|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: all players are back now|pg||
nt|chorush: This hand should be played in the very good 5 diamonds. 3NT undeservedly gains 2 imps so justice not served|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: east tried a 1NT overcall in other room i d be surprised to see gitelman duplicate this|pg||
nt|rhelle: yes, they are surging ahead now|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: aside from being off the @SA, 6@D requires both the @H finesse and 2-1 @D which will fail 22% of the time.|pg||
mb|1D|nt|ritong: assuming 1@s is the response here|pg||
mb|d|nt|jillan:  I know the percentage BUT you can't argue with the layout|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Sadam Hussein would describe this as the mother of all misfits.|pg||
nt|dburn: North-South will do well to go plus on these|pg||
mb|p|nt|007 joosth: what about the 1NT rebid?|pg||
nt|chorush: Most players will not rebid a 5 card minor nor reverse with such skimpy values, so 1NT is chosen as the alternative|pg||
mb|r|mb|p|nt|harmon: when they restarted Geoff shda passed:)|pg||
mb|1H|nt|hedyg: a nightmare to play|pg||
nt|brolucius: Was 3@D available?|pg||
nt|dburn: better not bid any more, or he may have a doubled nightmare to play|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: will Lauria double if Cheek bids again?|pg||
nt|hedyg: if 2@s showed 6-5...|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: EW in trouble now|pg||
mb|d|nt|chorush: 50 years ago it would  have been universal to open East's hand 1 heart and rebid 2 diamonds|pg||
mb|r|nt|algraves: no could have been only 4 spades|pg||
nt|brolucius: I don't agree that it should show 5-6 (on the basis that North has denied four spades). That is a reasonable auction to describe a strong 4-6 hand. |pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: this contract has a lot of play|pg||
nt|yuval10: 4@h looks makeable, so Schwartz team likely gets some imps back|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman studying the trick before turning it|pg||
nt|ritong: trump looks clear|pg||
nt|hedyg: then why bid 3@H?|pg||
mb|2C|mb|d|nt|ritong: 7|pg||
nt|chorush: Katz' 3H bid here is announcing some black suit worry|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: brad has doubled, and not with a trump stack|pg||
nt|ritong: so he has values, including @h control|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann lowers screen, asks about carding, gitelman answers UDCA|pg||
nt|dburn: he doesn't have a bad hand for hearts, or so he hopes - that @sJ would be a working card, and he has an ace|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|wstuart: The question was posed that if EW knew both hands, why would they not bid 6@D (not knowing the NS layout).|pg||
nt|rhelle: lead: either a small trump or the @dK|pg||
nt|harmon: prob d3 uless defense slips|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|nt|algraves: down 2 or 3 it seems|pg||
nt|dburn: meanwhile, 3@d is pretty much bound to be hopeless unless partner miraculously has two of them|pg||
nt|brolucius: No reason whatsoever for Lauria to double, as I see it. |pg||
pc|c9|nt|ritong: ron tried a small @h to his stiff jack, but unfortunately moss was aware about that card|pg||
nt|jillan:  because it is a poor slam|pg||
nt|chorush: mainly because it is about a 41% contract|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|jillan:  it has ONE virtue - it makes|pg||
nt|harmon: need to start spades for 5th trick|pg||
nt|rhelle: I'd start with @h ...|pg||
mc|5|pg||
qx|o39|st||md|1SQJ982HJTDT3CA543,S53HQ7653DAQ52CQT,SAT64HK2D964CJ762,SK7HA984DKJ87CK98|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|algraves: I have been asked to give some bio on the EW members here for the Grue team|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: 2N in this seat = 19-20|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@C = modified Puppet|pg||
nt|algraves: David Bakhshi is the best English player of his generation. in his thirties I would imagine|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|nt|algraves: and a wonderful sportsman|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: modificiation is that it includes this hand :)|pg||
nt|dburn: this is dangerous for the Grue team|pg||
nt|algraves: he teaches bridge at the Andy Robson club in London. A terrific club with a gazillion members , the largest in England|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: at least i THINK 3@C was Mod Puppet -- possible just Stayman with 3@H=Smolen|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: All I know for sure is that Hampson said 3@h showed 5 spades, 4 hearts|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|dburn: since if South delcares 3NT and West leads a club, South may have enough to set up and use the clubs|pg||
nt|dburn: but it is now dangerous for the Cayne team, because this auction is off the rails|pg||
nt|algraves: Ishmael Del Monte is the best Australian player of his generation|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Del Monte asked Seamon something and all I could hear of the answer was "this is all natural" (except for 3@c 4sf)|pg||
nt|algraves: and I suspect plays a lot of rubber bridge down under where it is still popular to have good rubber clubs|pg||
pc|s3|nt|Vugraphzfb: The first table (Lynch vs Berg) to finish in this room just broke. |pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c6|nt|Vugraphzfb: Seamon mumbled something, but I don't know what|pg||
nt|algraves: ah Ish is a new zealander originally|pg||
nt|dburn: still, 4@s may be a playable spot - not hopeless, at any rate, but...|pg||
nt|dburn: I don't know why Cayne bid 3@c rather than some number of notrump|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: And I don't know what 3@c was - obviously after the forcing 2@s not 4sf - but Seamon did sort of wave his hand as if it wasn't 100%  natural|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Lynch was down a ton after 3|pg||
nt|algraves: There are of course many great English players around Davids age so lets just say world class for sure|pg||
pc|dT|nt|dburn: that's a normal enough lead, but the contract still has chances - too hard for me to analyze, so those of you with GIB can work it out|pg||
pc|d2|nt|dburn: diamond, diamond, diamond ruff, heart, heart, diamond ruff - how's he doing?|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: Lynch original  6   Berg original  22 beat  11 yesterday|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c39|st||md|1SQJ982HJTDT3CA543,S53HQ7653DAQ52CQT,SAT64HK2D964CJ762,SK7HA984DKJ87CK98|sv|b|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: should have bid 5@S, you'd have bid 6|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: low heart might still pick off Tx or Txx with Gitelman|pg||
nt|dburn: looks like a Roland grand slam|pg||
nt|algraves: hmm|pg||
nt|hedyg: system summary for NS: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=577&pid=155|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: unable to record play due to the fact that I got disconnected|pg||
nt|rhelle: very swingy match so far |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|algraves: Lauria played too quickly there as it was clear to not play a third spade|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: they prolly have a tool to show 5@s 4@h limit|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: they are joking that it might go all pass at othe table|pg||
nt|dburn: but 6@s is pretty good - not straightforward to bid|pg||
nt|brolucius: Looks good for a splinter bid.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: result is accurate|pg||
mb|1D|nt|ritong: that too|pg||
nt|wstuart: Since the IMP returns are +11 IMPs for 920 vs 420 and -10 IMPs for -50 vs -400, the slam needs to be an 11:21 favorite in order to break even, wihch is 52%|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ritong: here we go|pg||
nt|bg: yes 2h =5spades 4 hearts|pg||
nt|chorush: That's true, Wayne, when you compare it with 5 of a minor but not when 3NT is an alternative|pg||
nt|harmon: sometimes opening light gets you, this was one of em|pg||
mb|d|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yuval10: West in the OR chose 1NT after South decided to open 1@d|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: possible 11 tricks  let s see|pg||
nt|marinesa: many pairs play 2h is 5s,4h 0-9 and 2s is 5s,4h and 10-11 something in this range|pg||
pc|s3|nt|rhelle: looks like 1 off, another 11 IMP swing|pg||
nt|rhelle: maybe -2, actually|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|marinesa: especially precision pairs|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@D shows a mixed raise.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: on the previous hand that is|pg||
nt|algraves: a lot of work to do in slam , KX spades is very favourable of course|pg||
nt|hedyg: a joke it is for sure|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am told: any shortness, 3@H ask and 3@S= singleton @C|pg||
nt|dburn: to say nothing of 4-3 diamonds with the king right, and the heart finesse on should North lead the suit|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not that this method appears on their card.|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dT|nt|ritong: the @h 9 had for purpose to diagnose if south has a stiff honor|pg||
nt|ritong: noone would cover with Hx(x)|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s5|nt|wstuart: very true, Ira|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|nt|yuval10: have to go now, enjoy the rest of the match|pg||
nt|yuval10: bye|pg||
nt|ritong: ciao|pg||
nt|ritong: brad is not the only facetious one around this table, seems|pg||
nt|brolucius: Well bid, anyway. They are over the first hurdle of a two-hurdle-race.|pg||
nt|algraves: so all reasonable lines of play will work it seems|pg||
nt|robbg:  anyway that is backwards, if those were the only 2 possible results the needed odds would be 10/21|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3@D= fit and a singleton. 3@H asking etc|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|nt|vugraphzfe: fred asked about 3H and brad asked about 3D but I didn't get conclusive answers|pg||
pc|d2|nt|hedyg: a limited hand, no more than 4-5 controls|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is reassuring when he takes so long to work out the best plan. Makes you want to give up the game when they pick up 12 tricks without pausing for breath.|pg||
nt|dburn: this is not easy|pg||
nt|algraves: lol, very complicated if you are trying to make with spades 3-1 as you would like to ruff 3 clubs in dummy|pg||
nt|dburn: he may start @cA, club ruff, @dQ intending to pitch a heart|pg||
nt|dburn: or, I suppose, he may just take the heart finesse|pg||
nt|dburn: don't see any other serious runners, but far from clear which of those two is favourite|pg||
nt|harmon: I think he needs the ht finesse, but I let better analysts decide|pg||
nt|algraves: yes he may be thinking of heart finesse and then if that works to finesse club with fall back on 2-2 spades with king on side|pg||
nt|brolucius: East did choose the splinter bid art the other table and, as you see, they have netted 1430 at the other table. If you put your cursor over the result, you can see the auction.|pg||
nt|algraves: first really big hand of the match as slam may not be bid in other room|pg||
nt|algraves: oh i see|pg||
nt|algraves: that is a great feature|pg||
nt|brolucius: A trump lead made it a bit easier.|pg||
nt|harmon: Fleischer leading Nickell 20-0 after 6|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: and did not see what went under SK|pg||
nt|chorush: that's true, and not known by most players|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|sJ|pc|d5|nt|harmon: Hey if Alfredo agrees with me I cant be tooo wrong|pg||
nt|brolucius: He didn't agree with you very quickly...|pg||
nt|harmon: as long as he did lol|pg||
nt|brolucius: We will see if he agrees with Allan by finessing in clubs next!|pg||
nt|rhelle: defence needs to be careful not to be thrown in|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|algraves: lol, easy when you see all the cards|pg||
nt|harmon: Q of d my prediction|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c2|nt|dburn: that may come now|pg||
nt|brolucius: The defenders will be muttering to themselves under their breath. 'How many finesses is this guy going to take?!'|pg||
nt|hedyg: @s lead in OR|pg||
nt|harmon: ok Q of d now|pg||
nt|hedyg: ruff a @c first|pg||
nt|brolucius: The famous English player, Jeremy Flint, used to advise that you commit a huge amount of energy to the important boards. Operation Big Deal. That is exactly what Versace is doing.|pg||
nt|dburn: ace of hearts also not impossible, just to see whether he needs a heart pitch at all, but...|pg||
nt|dburn: ...that's probably too risky if the king doesn't drop|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|c3|nt|harmon: thats better A|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|ritong: yes|pg||
pc|c6|nt|ritong: ensuring 10|pg||
nt|ritong: you never know|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o40|st||md|2S975HKQ864DK965CK,SKQJ6HJ2DT72CQ876,SA82HA3DAQJCJT532,ST43HT975D843CA94|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: @S8 was a Grosvenor   actually gave declarer a chance to make!  [unless i counted tricks wrong]|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Some discussion in Dutch under the screen - not sure what about - maybe the diamonds? Verhees actually played ten of hearts first time, so perhaps thought that was Smith and showed ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: @d 10?|pg||
nt|algraves: well done for Seamon Cayne to have bid to 4@S|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: EW discussing the same thing as our commentators :) - Bakhshi - "sorry"|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|an|!H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@H limited by failure to open 1@C  so max of 15 HCP|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C game force, @C or BAL|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: not sure if 2@H guarantees 6+  but surely 3@H = 3@H [with 4@H wouldn't start with 2@C]|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: 4 comparisons this set  26-3 for the team that began with 30 imp lead|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: alert 4@C -- probably non-serious try|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that means  with stronger slam ambition  start with 3N|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Hampson's hand getting better either way|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 5@D now?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think 4@S=KeyCard ask in @H  and 4N=cue in @S  even if reversed doesn't seem like Greco wants to take charge|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: and note that cue bids are 1st or 2nd round control|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|nt|ahollan1: nice auction|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: and nice verification from Jan that 2@H DID guarantee 6+@H|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|mc|9|pg||
qx|c40|st||md|2S975HKQ864DK965CK,SKQJ6HJ2DT72CQ876,SA82HA3DAQJCJT532,ST43HT975D843CA94|sv|o|nt|ritong: nice slam|pg||
nt|ritong: notice greco's 2@c|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: arguing the score now|pg||
nt|ritong: starting with 1@s might be less efficient|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss thought there were only 7 tricks|pg||
nt|algraves: Versace has very good feel at the table|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: possible correction on board 38|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: due to dispute|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|chorush: 5 clubs within a hair of making here|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: west claims he played the hand due to wrong information|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@s = 9+, 4+@h, unbalanced|pg||
mb|1S|nt|algraves: NS can remind themselves that slam is natural to bid and almost every line makes|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: will eldad suggest slam?|pg||
nt|harmon: 6c here not the worst contract ive ever seen|pg||
nt|dburn: been in worse slams than 6@s on these cards|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 3s alert|pg||
nt|dburn: sorry, than 6@c|pg||
mb|1N|nt|dburn: although it is certainly true that I have also been in worse slams than 6@s|pg||
nt|dburn: but not as many of them|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@D game-forcing|pg||
nt|chorush: We are back to the nearly 5 club hand|pg||
nt|jillan:  can you make it double dummy Ira|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 1NT = relay|pg||
mb|2D|nt|bg: 3nt makes but hard to bid|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@d = 4@d, 5+@h|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: nope|pg||
nt|harmon: 3n a good result spade lead beats 3n|pg||
mb|2H|nt|brolucius: 1@H-2@D-3@S= show2 5+@H-5+@C 12-14|pg||
nt|algraves: that is an interesting treatment , lots of merit in it |pg||
nt|chorush: I don't see how unless you get a trump lead or a heart and a heart continuation|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: vulnerable brad would try|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@h = relay|pg||
mb|3D|nt|bg: true Henri this is an imp scale type of hand|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|jillan:  I ment you personally >)(|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: non vulnerable possible gain is not much bigger than possible loss|pg||
nt|ritong: so, better go quietly and avoid adrenalina rushes|pg||
nt|ritong: not that brad tends to avoid that:)|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@d = 3=5=4=1|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sry possible correction from down 3 to down 2|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chorush: you need to lead trumps twice from dummy|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry we were disconnected|pg||
mb|p|nt|jillan:  you certainly need som e luck here|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: director has not ruled yet|pg||
pc|s4|nt|rhelle: great lead!|pg||
nt|harmon: sure is|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sK|nt|harmon: Bakkeren led low c in OR|pg||
nt|rhelle: he's been unlucky with his leads - let a slam nd a game through|pg||
nt|harmon: well the slam shdve been made anyway imho|pg||
pc|sA|nt|harmon: he just made it easy|pg||
pc|sT|nt|mslair: the fat lady will be singing soon|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|dA|nt|marinesa: i'm surprised brad didn't make bid 2c followed by 2s, mild try, i think they play 2way cb|pg||
pc|d3|nt|algraves: now club to Ace guarantees is clubs no worse than 3-1|pg||
pc|d5|nt|bg: gain 6imps to make 3nt nv lose 5 if down one but gain 10 vul vs lose6 if down therefore bid close vul games|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|nt|ritong: hello mark|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|nt|mslair: hey|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|pg||
nt|bg: Fred will make 3  board is a push|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|h9|pg||
pc|dK|pc|c7|nt|bg: oops make 4:)|pg||
pc|s2|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg||
pc|hT|mc|8|pg||
qx|o41|st||md|3ST4HA62DTCAKQ8765,SAQ95HKJT985DQJC2,SJ863H3D752CJT943,SK72HQ74DAK98643C|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: pull 2 rounds and retaining top @H in case they're 3-1  so able to ruff 3rd @D with honor|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Sorry about losing the play there - had to deal with other room :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2C|mb|d|an|alerted|nt|ahollan1: 1@D - 10-15 HCP  could actually be 0@D   or 4@D & 5+@S|pg||
mb|5C|mb|5D|nt|Vugraphzfb: Hampson: "we're 1 for 2 on slams without Blackwood" :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think always Good 6+@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but also thought this hand too strong for 2@D|pg||
mb|6C|nt|ahollan1: my notes imply best hand is minimum game force|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H could be singleton|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D promised suit that is playable opposite @Hx|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Verhees has his head in his hand and is studying - don't know if he's thinking about meaning of things or what|pg||
nt|dburn: well, if you are going to lose the play, 1@s making five is about the right time to do it|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Seamon assured me that if he'd been in 4 he' have gone down 3 :)|pg||
mb|6D|mb|p|nt|algraves: EW have a @S partscore|pg||
nt|ritong: hello everybody|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: maybe thinking he'd like to go back and respond 2@C Game Force Relay???|pg||
pc|cK|nt|dburn: maybe that's why Cayne keeps leaving him at the one level|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d4|nt|Vugraphzfb: Verhees "don't make too many"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the rest of auction could be unique for their version of Ultimate Canape -- sorry i can't translate :(|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and too many it will be|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c41|st||md|3ST4HA62DTCAKQ8765,SAQ95HKJT985DQJC2,SJ863H3D752CJT943,SK72HQ74DAK98643C|sv|e|nt|ritong: pure coinflip slam|pg||
nt|ritong: but two keys off|pg||
nt|ritong: oy|pg||
nt|brolucius: Versace was exhausted after the previous board and bid 3@S so that his partner could take a fair share of the work.|pg||
nt|dburn: third slam in a row|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: this one rather better than the last|pg||
mb|1D|nt|rhelle: another 'quiet' board - we're being spoilt tonight!|pg||
mb|3D|an|asking stop|nt|mslair: likely another 13 IMPs to the Diamond team|pg||
nt|ritong: unclear|pg||
nt|ritong: brad might make it short|pg||
nt|chorush: We will see the effect of the weak NT here|pg||
mb|3H|nt|mslair: short by opening 4 hearts|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@d asks for a @d stop for 3NT|pg||
nt|harmon: 6h makes 6d goes down on roght lead|pg||
nt|rhelle: great EW result here|pg||
nt|harmon: yes|pg||
nt|rhelle: and 7@c is a cheap save, of course - 3 off|pg||
mb|4D|nt|ritong: or try some joke|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman showed interest when the tray came back.  usually is very stoic|pg||
nt|ritong: good time to have a gadget for minors|pg||
nt|brolucius: Another slam - just when I have to head for my wine-tasting. Ah well, it was 75 minutes very enjoyably spent. Bye!|pg||
nt|chorush: One of the disadvantages is that is allows the opponents to overcall freely at the one level. A major advantage is that it hinders the opponents from their natural bidding when ...|pg||
nt|chorush: they have the weak NT opener|pg||
nt|rhelle: as 1@d is artificial, 4@d must be pass or correct|pg||
nt|rhelle: North is looking for a save,|pg||
mb|d|nt|chorush: 2 clubs has not been alerted, but I believe it is a transfer to 2D which is a cue bid raise with 3 trumps|pg||
nt|rhelle: and will be surprised his partner's suit is @cs|pg||
mb|5C|nt|bg: NS have 7 losers hope they do not vul get them into unprofitable sac|pg||
nt|ritong: oy|pg||
nt|dburn: and seven making on a fluke if you accidentally bid it|pg||
nt|chorush: Martel must now have a way to show his strong NT|pg||
nt|harmon: he knows his suit is clubs|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: north wrote to east that he "thought 3d showed diamonds but not 100% sure"|pg||
nt|harmon: pard asked for d stop|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Most experts play that 2 spades is Nickells weakest action|pg||
nt|rhelle: does he? Partner can't have @ds after the precision 1@d opening?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: at least that is what the note said|pg||
nt|harmon: oh ok|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: not sure how east kept a straight face during that explanation|pg||
nt|rhelle: lol|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: fred: really?"|pg||
nt|rhelle: well, he knows now|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: right|pg||
nt|harmon: Eric might might just bid 6h|pg||
mb|5N|nt|chorush: Pass would be stronger|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: 2NT forcing, no doubt a useful treatment, but Versace is a bit cramped for room now|pg||
nt|rhelle: 5NT = pick a slam, I think|pg||
mb|6H|nt|hedyg: Lauria has shown 16+ with 5+@d 4@H and no 3@ss|pg||
nt|rhelle: asking partner to choose between 6@d and 6@h|pg||
nt|rhelle: great bid|pg||
mb|7C|nt|algraves: pick a slam sort of bid|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3NT probably denies 6 @ds now|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes 5NT= pick a slam|pg||
nt|rhelle: and a great save|pg||
mb|d|nt|ritong: pachtmann lost a big chance imho|pg||
nt|ritong: 4@h will sound bizarre to fred's ear|pg||
nt|ritong: if any:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: fred writes: not discussed. 2245|pg||
nt|ritong: til now, fred is super happy|pg||
nt|ritong: he had the right tool for a hand which is usually very tough to negotiate|pg||
nt|mslair: can't sign off in 5 hearts   I think he will bid 6 hearts  |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss bouncing nervously|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: @s Q10 is awkward|pg||
nt|chorush: With great good fortune this is going to make|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: just bid 4@s and check what happened after smoke clears up|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss also writes 2245|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss: he doesn't know anything about my hand|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|vugraphzfe: north says "i guess 3d asked for stopper"|pg||
nt|harmon: lotsa of exciting boards here|pg||
pc|d2|nt|hedyg: pick one yourself?|pg||
nt|rhelle: hahahahaha|pg||
mc|10|nt|vugraphzfe: south claimed trick 1|pg||
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qx|o42|st||md|4SA74HQDAQJ7643CJ3,SQT962HAJ95D52C87,SK853H6DKT9CAQ642,SJHKT87432D8CKT95|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: ouch -- definite lost opportunity|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Seamon said he wanted some of his overtricks from the previous hand back on this one :)|pg||
nt|algraves: Gib is not human? I always thought ....|pg||
nt|dburn: a silicon-based one, of course, would drop @dQ and intra-finesse in trumps|pg||
mb|3H|mb|4D|nt|ritong: they lied, al|pg||
mb|4H|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|6H|nt|ahollan1: NS 2@D opener is Precision 3-suiter with 0/1@D  so 1@D = 2+ except for rare hand with singleton honor that gets treated as NT|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: different contract here|pg||
nt|ritong: soo..|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: potential swing here as EW have 9 tricks now|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c7|nt|dburn: well, if he sticks the ten on this and plays a club, he's in very good shape|pg||
nt|ritong: declarer seems to be ahead now|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d9|nt|algraves: 3@C, 2@H 2@D and 2@S|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: thru 56  Nickel over O'Rourke +11|pg||
pc|hA|nt|algraves: 4 @C|pg||
nt|dburn: perhaps more - South has to keep three spades, and may get thrown in at some late stage|pg||
nt|algraves: an overtrick|pg||
nt|dburn: one overtrick won't matter - two is worth another IMP|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i owe nick an "l"|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sJ|nt|algraves: a good hand to see that two balanced hands are often at least as good if not better in NT even with an 8 card major fit if they bid it without disclosing too much|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c42|st||md|4SA74HQDAQJ7643CJ3,SQT962HAJ95D52C87,SK853H6DKT9CAQ642,SJHKT87432D8CKT95|sv|b|nt|ritong: on the other hand, 3@s will close the auction more often than not|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: loud discussion from hall, kibitzer gail greenberg hurries to close door|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: he claimed 7 on a squeeze but ns objected|pg||
mb|3H|nt|chorush: So Katz' double transformed a loss to a gain. Hard to blame Stansby for thinking that 3NT wasn't going to make|pg||
nt|rhelle: another testing board|pg||
mb|4D|mb|4H|nt|harmon: they were right too|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|jillan:  how to stay out of game here|pg||
nt|rhelle: 9 boards played, 45-45. Incredible match|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|nt|dburn: were they? wasn't North going to be show-up-squeezed in hearts and clubs?|pg||
nt|hedyg: i think so|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sry i always try to say when declarer claims t1 because people ask why I didn't type in the cards that went by|pg||
mb|5D|nt|ritong: mrs greenberg is brad's mom|pg||
nt|algraves: so cheek and gure play negative doubles after 2NT unusual|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: south said he was able to pitch|pg||
nt|chorush: A double by Katz here might have turned what will be a minus into a plus|pg||
nt|jillan:  yes a double from Katz wold have made it a bit simpled for Nickell|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: grue coulda pitched his q of d|pg||
nt|dburn: he was right about that|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: no diff|pg||
nt|wstuart: Surely Nick will bid here, prob 5@C rather than 4NT.|pg||
nt|chorush: Mind you Katz has a terrible hand but he does have what he knows are a wasted AK of hearts|pg||
nt|wstuart: wrong again.|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: grue needed Q10 of d|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|nt|chorush: looks like a misunderstanding here|pg||
nt|wstuart: Tough decision between 5@C and 4NT|pg||
nt|rhelle: that will be 11 tricks and 3 IMPs - bringing the match exactly level|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|wstuart: hmmm|pg||
nt|jillan:  don't think Nickell tought pass was NF|pg||
pc|s6|nt|ritong: makeable|pg||
nt|ritong: auction is crystal|pg||
pc|s3|nt|ritong: guess @ds and bye bye clara|pg||
nt|bg: personally I am not a fan of not bidding out shape the 3 club bid could be an artificial force in some structures I would bid 4 clubs over 3 spades and show the shape|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i thought @CK to @D finesse was mirage|pg||
nt|ritong: a decision, al|pg||
nt|ahollan1: seems extra chances if low @D from hand|pg||
nt|ritong: the guess is: who has @d Hx|pg||
nt|ritong: when south can have @d HHx, i agree small to ten is better|pg||
nt|dburn: might have been easier in hearts, this|pg||
nt|jillan:  this will cost....|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|ritong: pass over 1@s is three @ss and mini values|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|chorush: will be down 2 since Martel won't get th diamond lead he was hoping for|pg||
pc|d3|nt|vugraphzfe: east says he forgot pass was forcing|pg||
pc|d2|nt|ritong: now of course, if north ducks smoothly..|pg||
nt|ritong: redouble is " please look closer"|pg||
pc|d9|nt|ritong: and pass over 2@h is " no, really sorry mate"|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: brad sees dummy, calls director, suggests ginossar has broken tempo over 2@S|pg||
nt|ritong: my perso style would be a fitjump in 2@s after pass|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|ritong: showing 5@s 4@d inviting values|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: none of these players will pass immediately with no problem as some others do|pg||
nt|dburn: in spades, declarer will have to pick up the trumps|pg||
nt|dburn: and he may not have the entries to do it, once he finds that East has four|pg||
pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: after @SA lead @Dx seems even clearer -- then @DA and if suit not running, hope for 5@C 1@D 2@H 1@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if North wins @D -- well you're no worse off|pg||
nt|bg: only hopr her is a low dia play N for doubleton honor|pg||
nt|ahollan1: retraction -- just noticed @C discard from trick 1|pg||
nt|dburn: GIB would make it, of course, but although Cheek is a terrific player, he doesn't make everything that GIB would|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ritong: gitelmoss certainly reserv that to an other handtype|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar seemed upset by the director call, takes some time to compose himself|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ritong: he had to decide early|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe that should have been @D|pg||
nt|algraves: the downside to 2 suited interference is the distributional information it gives away|pg||
nt|dburn: Cheek may have been uncertain as to whether 4@h was an offer to play, or a control-bid for spades|pg||
nt|dburn: if he'd known it was the former, he'd almost certainly have passed it|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg||
nt|harmon: play ht now|pg||
nt|harmon: needs hts 2-2|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion|pg||
mc|11|nt|dburn: if he loses a heart to West and a fourth round of diamonds is played...|pg||
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qx|o43|st||md|1SK763HAQ9865DT2C6,SQ54HJT73DQ73CJ93,SAJ92H2D65CAKQT72,ST8HK4DAKJ984C854|sv|o|nt|algraves: good hand for the empire boys|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Cayne: "what were your diamonds?" Seamon: "I had 10 9 9 fourth"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Seamon: "nice play in clubs"|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: fearless 1@D|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: the fifth on this team Les Amoils is a very fine player from Toronto who is from South Africa I believe|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|dburn: slam not much better than the diamond finesse, but sufficiently better to be worth bidding|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|dburn: but this may not cut it|pg||
nt|algraves: will he or wont he|pg||
nt|dburn: although del Monte maybe has enough to bid again|pg||
nt|ritong: del monte has the t/o double on his right|pg||
nt|ritong: if there is something to hook, it might work more easily|pg||
nt|dburn: 2NT was not game-forcing, so 4@s shows some extra stuff|pg||
nt|ritong: his main problem is to decide if the 5 level is dangerous or not|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Ish hasn't moved - sitting looking at his hand, but .....|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: on the missed slam Brad Moss opened the west hand in 4th seat with 2N|pg||
nt|algraves: West might have gone slower  XXXX, A, KQ,A a very good slam but he probalby wanted to make sure he bought it in 4@S if partne was a limit raise|pg||
nt|ritong: in case pard declines his offer|pg||
nt|dburn: and del Monte may apply the usual test "if I make a try and we stop in five, might we go down?"|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|algraves: right|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sT|nt|dburn: well done|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|c6|nt|algraves: very good by Del Monte|pg||
pc|c3|nt|Vugraphzfb: Bakhshi asks about the lead - 3/5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
nt|dburn: Sementa in a similar position just bid Blackwood - "if we're not off two aces, Giorgio will make twelve tricks somehow"|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: i think Fred has described a slam invite with @C & @H -- now waiting to see what happens|pg||
nt|algraves: you have to be brave to play top flight bridge|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: 4N final contract!   so both fail to find slam|pg||
nt|algraves: lol|pg||
pc|c8|pc|dT|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
mc|12|nt|dburn: since even if West had four small diamonds, North would be squeezed in the red suits, this was well judged|pg||
pg||
qx|c43|st||md|1SK763HAQ9865DT2C6,SQ54HJT73DQ73CJ93,SAJ92H2D65CAKQT72,ST8HK4DAKJ984C854|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: very intriguing hand   and records will say  "just a push"|pg||
nt|dburn: still, declarer should probably have made it given the bidding|pg||
nt|wstuart: Nip and tuck, Fleisher back on top now.|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|rhelle: and another interesting hand ...|pg||
mb|1S!|nt|rhelle: 1@s = relay|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: how does he make after the ruff sluff?|pg||
mb|1N!|nt|ahollan1: with 3 to score   O'Rourke leads Nickell by 7|pg||
nt|wstuart: I think DBL showed a 5+ card minor + 4 card major?|pg||
nt|chorush: yes, I assume 2 diamonds asks for pass or correction to major|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 1@H or 1@s?|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1NT = 4+ @s|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@c = relay|pg||
mb|2C|nt|wstuart: It's interesting that Martel didn't jam with 3@H here - I guess he thought he had enough defense with both majors that he wasn't worried about getting outbid.|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 3@h = 4=6=2=1 exactly|pg||
mb|3H|an|4/6/2/1|mb|p|nt|harmon: he cant unless ht onside that was my point|pg||
nt|harmon: Im glad u know the relays Rob:)|pg||
nt|rhelle: by heart :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: I try to get the info the write down on notepads and pass around but sometimes no one asks|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: they|pg||
nt|rhelle: Now North has choices ... 3@s = strong relay, only asks controls|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@c = weak relay, asks for max and controls|pg||
mb|4S!|an|slam try|nt|harmon: before everyone yelled at mne lol|pg||
nt|chorush: Not that often that 2NT is right as "save" over 2 spades; here it is going to make when 2 spades also would have made (I think)|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@d = signoff, asks partner to bid 4@h, so that he can pass or bid the final contract|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: lets see if fred can save 1 imp making 9|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss trying to find an escort to leave the room and ginossar tells him just to go|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: some back and forth between boards about the alleged tempo break|pg||
nt|wstuart: is it better for katz to dbl again?|pg||
nt|rhelle: and 4@s = a slight invitation|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|wstuart: Asked by a spec;  I think His DBL of 2@S is probably more strongly penalty oriented.|pg||
nt|chorush: Depends on what their methods are. They might as well not play 2 spades dbld because I don't think they will beat it. Could be wrong though|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|bg: fred the magician can only make 3 if N plays 3 rounds of spades|pg||
nt|ritong: he has 8 on top and NS can try to establish a long @s|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|dK|nt|vugraphzfe: director said if tray passes back within 25 seconds it is not a break in tempo|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg||
nt|harmon: Diamond will jump out to a huge lead this board 1 matbe 2 imps!!!:)|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|ritong: cashing time|pg||
nt|bg: or leads a third dia:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: you all think the 4@H bid is ok?|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|algraves: yes , ptich heart on third diamond , Q@S, low@S to J|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s2|nt|ritong: good move|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|hedyg: specs all bid 2@d|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|nt|algraves: club finesse , A and @H|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|d4|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|h5|pc|c3|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o44|st||md|2SK7HJT9875D4CAJ97,SJ3HK42D87653C632,SAQT982HA3DATCK54,S654HQ6DKQJ92CQT8|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfb: I think Greco got squeezed in the minors|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: for overtrick -- it just didn't matter|pg||
nt|ahollan1: vP  PASS???|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow -- Verhees 1st seat favorable preempts must usually be much worse|pg||
mb|1N|an|semi-forcing|nt|dburn: Joe Grue forthright as ever at the other table, and very successful he was|pg||
nt|warrens:  do we know what 2@d is?|pg||
nt|ritong: transfer|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: B asked about the Pass of the DBL, and Cayne said something about 2 or 4 something (don't know what) |pg||
nt|ritong: according to jan's indication|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i would have thought he'd try 3N over 3@H|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|dburn: mind you, how did he make it?|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe they led a trump|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: I"m about 85% that what he said about 2@d was transfer, but not 100% :)|pg||
nt|dburn: if they hadn't, he could not get to dummy to lead one himself|pg||
mb|3D|an|!H|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|dburn: a diamond would suffice also, but no one would lead a diamond|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hA|nt|dburn: apparently a spade was led at the other table and then the technology crashed|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg||
nt|dburn: so I guess we won't know how he made it until the Bulletin appears|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c44|st||md|2SK7HJT9875D4CAJ97,SJ3HK42D87653C632,SAQT982HA3DATCK54,S654HQ6DKQJ92CQT8|sv|n|nt|vugraphzfe: moss comes back and apologizes: "don't want to imply anything", shakes pachtmann's hand, says "we'll talk about it in the bar"|pg||
nt|harmon: then what|pg||
nt|algraves: then claim|pg||
nt|wstuart: What a fine set of actoin hands we are seeing.|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: how|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
mb|1C!|nt|ritong: if brad opens, they will prolly be in 4NT|pg||
nt|ritong: hm|pg||
mb|1D|nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: curious that Moss opens playing 2/1  and Verhees did NOT playing a Big Club system|pg||
nt|dburn: then, he has the ace and jack of spades, and the lead is in dummy|pg||
mb|1S!|nt|rhelle: 1@s = 9+, 4+@h, unbalanced|pg||
mb|4D|nt|harmon: potential slam here|pg||
nt|rhelle: so NS are now in a GF situation|pg||
mb|4S|nt|ritong: 4NT swish|pg||
nt|harmon: hts havent been played|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: NS play precision so 1@D can be many kinds of hands|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: very nice slam - hard to bid.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: for specs unfamiliar with the treatment    2N showed Balanced Game Force   a totally new concept that was introduced in 1920s|pg||
nt|bg: this pair obviously use 2nt as a balanced openig bid vs others who use Jacoby--both styles have their merits|pg||
pc|d8|nt|dburn: awkward for South, this|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|wstuart: Did east miss his chance by not splintering over the 2@H rebid?|pg||
nt|chorush: Yes, Wayne, slam is quite good and hard to bid. I always have trouble when I don't start with a direct forcing raise. Let's see if Katz does better than I would|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|dT|nt|chorush: Most partnerships have a rule that there are generally no new suits bid at the four level. So 4D is a cue for heartswith slam interest|pg||
nt|harmon: huge lead probably gone now|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s7|nt|hedyg: what a lead|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|nt|hedyg: Liz the tables dont seem to be connected?|pg||
pc|s2|nt|jillan:  well done Nick|pg||
nt|chorush: vwd and will duly make|pg||
nt|wstuart: a well earned push/|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred calling cards so softly moss has to ask|pg||
nt|chorush: In slam bidding, there is a special responsibility placed upon the partner who holds the AK of trumps. His partner is doing all this inviting without them, so... should strain to ...|pg||
nt|chorush: accept|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cK|nt|wstuart: from a spec:  "I don't understand the bidding - West seems to have pushed to slam when East should have been the one doing so?"|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|rhelle: might even be a deficit|pg||
pc|h7|nt|wstuart: West ahdn't show any extra values at 3@H - 4@D showed slam interest opposite a potential min;  now west has a very good hand.|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d9|nt|hedyg: bd 10 Seamon played in 4@H and made it|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: I don't know, I have no control over that connection|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: but i will try to find out about it|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty Liz|pg||
pc|h8|pc|d6|pg||
nt|wstuart: 5@H on their auction says that 4@D was the whole story, but west hand enough to drive it in after that.|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|o45|st||md|3SQ9H96DJT652CK976,SKT6HQJ87DK3CQ854,SAJ75HAK4DAQ4CAJ2,S8432HT532D987CT3|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: will be interesting to see if Pachtmann also overcalls 3@H  and then  if Gitelman bids with East|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Hampson - "spades might make ... if we don't defend well, they might make 3NT"|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: EW do NOT play strong 2N opener|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: raise could be three cards  cayne checks|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|nt|dburn: still, what with Seamon going down in 3@d instead of making 3@h, I suppose the Cayne team was lucky that it had a poor board in both rooms|pg||
nt|ritong: @c lead likely|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: 1@C then 1N=18-20|pg||
nt|dburn: but you can't afford too many pieces of good luck like that|pg||
nt|warrens:  this looks straightforward, regardless of how he plays @D's|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Seamon: "I"m borderline, pard, good luck"|pg||
nt|warrens:  plus this lead should make it easier|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d8|nt|ahollan1: many pairs no playing transfer to @H then 2@S as artificial game try -- so the 5@S hand starts with Stayman|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ahollan1: not "no" but "now"    say that 3 times quickly|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h4|nt|ritong: dummy having @h 107, he can make this almost whatever the trump break, assuming @c and @d roll in|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hK|nt|ritong: now, would it be dangerous to cash them, that s an other story|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|nt|dburn: scores for the round of 8 after one quarter are at http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-8|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: @D lead at trick 1 would have made this hand much more interesting|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|mc|9|pg||
qx|c45|st||md|3SQ9H96DJT652CK976,SKT6HQJ87DK3CQ854,SAJ75HAK4DAQ4CAJ2,S8432HT532D987CT3|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: i think Culbertson's 2N was forcing too|pg||
mb|1C!|nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 1@d = 0-8|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: thought Acol introduced 2N as invite  and artificial Game Force was Ozzie & Jim Jacoby  early 60s??|pg||
nt|harmon: oh yea lol|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@h = 19+|pg||
mb|1H!|an|artif 19+|nt|wstuart: Does the 3rd segment of these 64 boards start at 8p local time (5p BBO time)?|pg||
nt|wstuart: The operator says yes.|pg||
nt|chorush: The 3 dominant teams in American bridge over the past couple of years have been the two you are watching here and Diamond. The winner of this match will face Diamond should Diamond ...|pg||
nt|chorush: win today|pg||
nt|jillan:  will maybe be in bed by then...it is 11 pm here now...|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: not sure about their style, but this @c Ax is surely worth an effort|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C must deny 3+@S|pg||
nt|wstuart: Spec asks what is the diff between the 2@S cue and a potential 2@C cue.|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@h = 2=2=5=4 exactly, 6-8 points|pg||
mb|3H!|an|2-2-5-4|mb|p|nt|wstuart: Many play that the higher cue is more trumps and less HCP then the lower cue.|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@h also promises at least 1 control, so North will be wondering what to do next. 6@d looks possible|pg||
nt|harmon: can he have 2 controls??|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@s asks for controls|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|hedyg: bd 9 6NT +1|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: just not sure if 6th @C shown|pg||
nt|chorush: different pairs have different uses. Could be 2 spades shows 4 card support and 2C shows 3. Each to his own|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: i think double dummy defense can set this 4    starts with @H lead|pg||
nt|ritong: now a battle of undertricks|pg||
nt|ritong: three looks like a lot of them|pg||
nt|ahollan1: then they must untangle @S winners while retaining transportation in @H -- extremely unlikely|pg||
nt|bg: rebid of the minor usually shows 6 with 3 hearts better to raise hearts with unbalanced hand|pg||
nt|ritong: but|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right Bruce -- but there is slight impact playing transfer responses|pg||
nt|ritong: try @c hook, loses, a @h back|pg||
nt|hedyg: bd 11 3@H -2|pg||
pc|s9|nt|ritong: now the contract makes with @d K on|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: depending on 1N rebid -- 1@H can be used to show exactly 3@H [1N=weak balanced hand] or 2/3@H  [1N=18-19]|pg||
nt|harmon: Hedy why u disconnect tables??|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|ritong: so 3@h 2@s 1@c 1@d|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann picked up his bidding cards, trying to end the auction before the tray passed back. perhaps has given up|pg||
nt|hedyg: moi?|pg||
nt|harmon: vous|pg||
nt|hedyg: jamais!|pg||
nt|hedyg: score is 28-7|pg||
nt|hedyg: for Cayne|pg||
nt|wstuart: However, there is a difference when you have overcalled 1M and 1m - when you've overcalled 1m 3NT is a likely contract and it is useful to play that you cue the one that you have a ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: stopper in, while after 1M the number of trumps and hand type is more important.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: he is facing his hand|pg||
nt|wstuart: I don't know what the NS undersdtanding is here.|pg||
nt|jillan:  a wll played match with a lot of interesting hands and actions|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d2|nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann toying with his cards, trick 1 still faced|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|rhelle: at least they managed to right-side it - should be a few overtricks|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|bg: do you try to make or play dia ace and concede down one;)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: screen lowered while moss whispers a question|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: stretches, sighs, cracks his knuckles behind his head|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: certainly not acting like the match is decided|pg||
pc|d4|nt|harmon: Versace/Lauria playing GREAT!!!!|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: jeff meckstroth:  they still pay bonus for making game, don't they?|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c7|nt|vugraphzfe: may be forced to get it right from here|pg||
nt|ritong: completely so|pg||
nt|ritong: just exit a @h, just in case|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: and on that reference  with 2 to score   O'Rourke leads Nickell by 12|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ritong: not anymore|pg||
nt|ritong: so, @c QJ on and good bye|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sets his hand down, sighs again.  really sweating this one|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|bg: they also pay 5 imps for being down 200 less just a point of view|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: no scores posted but they will filter onto  http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
pc|s5|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|s3|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o46|st||md|4SKQ7HQTDJ73CAK874,ST43HAK7652DK6CQ6,SJ852HJ8DQ854C952,SA96H943DAT92CJT3|sv|o|mb|p|nt|dburn: that might drive Cayne to bid 3NT|pg||
nt|ritong: now NS are cooked|pg||
mb|1N|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N=semi-force|pg||
mb|2H|nt|dburn: in which he won't necessarily fail, given the spade layout|pg||
nt|warrens:  2@H did drive him to game, but can he make it?  |pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: Seamon says he's had this hand 3 times in this match already - "this is a nice hand to have 3 times in a match"|pg||
nt|dburn: if the defenders let him get a second heart trick...|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i know -- it's either forcing or it isn't    but that's not the only poorly named convention/treatment in our game|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ritong: he might make, yes|pg||
nt|dburn: ...then he has three spades, four diamonds, and those two hearts|pg||
nt|ritong: and cannot lose three @cs|pg||
nt|ritong: directly|pg||
nt|dburn: all of this means that East cannot afford to play a heart now|pg||
nt|ritong: he s sort of endplayed at trick 2|pg||
nt|warrens:  I can't see any way to beat it, if he can read the cards.  I predict making.|pg||
nt|dburn: nor in theory can he afford a diamond, although declarer would not actually run that to the ten|pg||
nt|dburn: but any black card will do - there are not quite enough entries (which will come as no surprise to Seamon, who doesn't think he has any at all)|pg||
nt|ritong: for now, del monte knows @hAJx and a very good hand, probably without 4@s|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|nt|ahollan1: i particularly abhor "negative double"  and  "grand slam force"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: a)  but he has points     b) but you stopped in 6     and the director walks away shaking his head muttering to himself|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: vP asks about how many clubs Greco promised - usually 3 but could be 2 with a 5422 decent hand|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he doesn't know very much about spades - declarer could easily have four|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: really???   playing semi-force 1N  i would think 2@C usually 4|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Only pass 1NT with balanced minimum|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe 4+ if min, (2)3+ if not min|pg||
nt|dburn: now in theory, declarer can make - but he may not bang down the ace of spades (or the queen)|pg||
nt|warrens:  even with a black card from E at trick 2, I think W gets endplayed|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: i guess i'm still on semantics kicke|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dK|nt|dburn: he didn't - he played for West to have @sKJ long, and to develop some endgame on that basis|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dT|nt|ritong: @d pls  oh, i m in my hand|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: He had the club 9 out but put it back and is thinking|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Now has the @d Q out|pg||
nt|dburn: still, I'm not sure Cayne was playing for a layout that would actually help|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|warrens:  a tough hand to play or defend.  I agree that 3 rounds of @c's after winning the @H at trick one was enough to beat it for sure|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c46|st||md|4SKQ7HQTDJ73CAK874,ST43HAK7652DK6CQ6,SJ852HJ8DQ854C952,SA96H943DAT92CJT3|sv|o|nt|rhelle: surely North ditched a @h :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: bd 12 S is playing 4@h|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: were no cards played for those who asked other than the opening lead|pg||
mb|1N!|nt|rhelle: 1NT = good 12 to 15|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|ritong: ginossar/pachtmann not having fun|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nickell v O'Rourke showing  Nickell +7 with 2 to play  there is possible scoring error of 3 or 4 imps [it would be in favor of O'Rourke]|pg||
nt|hedyg: live streaming from the OR: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: Chpis turn to get his lead directing DBL in|pg||
nt|chorush: will Katz think his hand worth a raise?|pg||
nt|wstuart: *Chip's|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S instead of 1N means Moss ON DEFENSE gets 100 honors|pg||
nt|bg: not much joy in this hand eather|pg||
nt|ritong: but imps no matter what|pg||
nt|ritong: even if few|pg||
nt|hedyg: far left is Cayne, far right Amoils|pg||
nt|rhelle: this looks like 10 tricks on a low @c lead|pg||
pc|cA|nt|rhelle: with the @hs breaking 22|pg||
pc|c6|nt|chorush: Nick won't|pg||
nt|wstuart: It's interesting that EW do'nt ahve any special methods here to try and get the contract played by the hand that has a @C stopper|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|nt|chorush: Guess that is commentator's curse|pg||
nt|wstuart: It's reasonable to play pass to say he doesn't have any reason for a @C lead to come up to his hand, then try and get the major suit contracts played by east, who might have a @C ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: stopper.|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ritong: and a @h|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d by Versace would have shown both majors|pg||
nt|rhelle: the @C 9 was upside down count - the @s2 upside down attitude|pg||
nt|rhelle: so North has an odd number of @cs and likes @ss|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|wstuart: I think this might make double dummy.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hT|nt|ritong: best is to duck that|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred fidgeting with quitted trick, hand folded|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh  bigtrain [Walter Johnson] says if scoring error  it would be Nickell +1 with 1 to play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: amazing our match had ANY spectators|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: with bbotv can watch more than one room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: too right -- never thought about them  even though one is ME|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred finally fans his cards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but we who logged in to watch this match  saw a lot of very solid play from Diamond|pg||
pc|hA|nt|hedyg: bd 12 5 imps to Grue, 4@H -3|pg||
nt|hedyg: 28 - 12|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|h7|pc|c5|pc|h4|nt|chorush: Yes, squeeze looks like it will work|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|h6|nt|bg: sometimes better to use only two entries to play on side duit like clubs which requires two finesses  and jus lead spade away from king|pg||
nt|ahollan1: whoa    de ja vu|pg||
pc|d4|nt|wstuart: if he can ruff 2@C and strip squeeze N he might do it.|pg||
nt|wstuart: complictaed, let me think....|pg||
nt|wstuart: :)|pg||
pc|s6|nt|chorush: Nick will have to believe Chip's diamond 9|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o47|st||md|1SKT43HK32D974CT62,SJ8H8654DAKT5CJ75,SA62HQTDQ8CAKQ943,SQ975HAJ97DJ632C8|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfb: Seamon: "sorry, I did not have my share"|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 10-15 HCP  4+@C & 5+@S  or   6+@C|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if 6+@C -- no 2nd suit|pg||
nt|dburn: if only he knew - he had the ten of diamonds and the ten-eight of spades, which was plenty|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|ritong: grue cheek found the red/white save|pg||
nt|warrens:  a great sacrifice, at unfavorable, over 6@D at the other table|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: @C get no respect from North or East|pg||
mb|2N|nt|dburn: maybe Curtis Cheek was bidding it to make|pg||
nt|warrens:  wow, your partner bid 2@D and you have AKQJ10xx in support!|pg||
nt|warrens:  4@H key card now?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Jan -- will we see 2 matches again tomorrow??|pg||
nt|dburn: or maybe he was bidding it simply because what you do when everyone has masses of distribution is keep bidding|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Ish asked about 2@c and Seamon said "it's not discussed"|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 4 to play   Nickell over O'Rourke by 2|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Verhees asks what 3@s was and Greco says preempt|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: tongue in cheek -- did Louk at least smirk??|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Louk said: "sorry, not much"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Walter Johnson just announced he thinks  O'Rourke leads by 2|pg||
nt|warrens:  or, wrong pair.  for this pair, 4NT RKC |pg||
mb|p|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dK|nt|Vugraphzfb: Ish looked up at me and was laughing, as was I, at the diamonds he's about to put down in dummy|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: Ish: "just what I though you were going to bid, partner"|pg||
nt|dburn: one thing for sure - this dummy deserves a "thank you, partner"|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|ritong: might start display with @d 10xxx|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: walter = bigtrain = expert on RM Precision [meckwell] |pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pg||
pc|cA|nt|Vugraphzfb: Hampson thinking - presumably about whether to overtake and if he does, what to do next|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|h7|pc|c6|nt|Vugraphzfb: had the A out to play, put it back, took it out again ...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3rd time a charm??|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d2|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c4|pc|h9|pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: in my early days reading bridge magazines there was an article who's title i loved|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|c3|mc|9|pg||
qx|c47|st||md|1SKT43HK32D974CT62,SJ8H8654DAKT5CJ75,SA62HQTDQ8CAKQ943,SQ975HAJ97DJ632C8|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: unofficial   Nickell beats O'Rourke by 1|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred mumbles sorry.  moss:"I could have played @SK at trick one"|pg||
nt|ritong: extremely unofficial|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2 possible scoring errors so stand by|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: The Greensboro NC native has show fine card reading skills.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: not sure moss should go high with both opps passed|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
mb|1C!|nt|algraves: he had to draw exactly 2 @H then play on clubs. Lauria can win thrid club and play @S but you ruff in dummy and ruff club and play last heart to dummy to draw trumps|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|vugraphzfe: moss wide-eyed at the 5@H call|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@d = 0-8|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: bd 13 2@s by E|pg||
mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: 2 scores in  Fleisher leads by 37 over Onstott    Berg over Lynch by 74|pg||
nt|chorush: One moral of this story is that when you play cards to help partner, it may help declarer as much or more. the diamond 9 was a tipoff, with the K he would have no reason to ...|pg||
nt|chorush: discourage a diamond return|pg||
nt|wstuart: 3NT on these auctions shows specifically long and good @D since 2NT would be bid on 18-19 bal hands.|pg||
nt|chorush: I think Nick's hand is too good for his action|pg||
nt|wstuart: Nice point, Ira|pg||
nt|wstuart: Yes, he|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: !|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@c = 16-18, 5+@c, NF|pg||
mb|3C|nt|wstuart: *he's definitely heavy for 3NT.|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: However, it may be a least of evils decision - I don't know their methods well enough to undersdtand his other consideratoins.|pg||
nt|jillan:  scheisse, and he was doing so well|pg||
nt|mikeirl: is tuesday ok for  u|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ritong: 1NT response had a small chance  2@s has not|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we'll surely see Nickell v O'Rourke in final set of the night -- and if this table one of last to finish this match too|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "sorry if this is wrong"|pg||
nt|algraves: he was playing east to be 7411 I think|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@c = mild invitation|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: on the other hand, 1NT with four trumps, a singleton and a king would be fancy|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: looks like Nickell will end set trailing O'Rourke by 8|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: this result easy to accept -- when you're +80|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|rhelle: this should be swiftly -1 ...|pg||
pc|s5|nt|ritong: forgiven|pg||
nt|rhelle: but stranger things have happened|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: forgotten :)|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred calling cards more audibly this hand|pg||
pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: Bergen would bid 1@S-3@S   that might convince East to Pass|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ritong: really?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and probably easier to find 9 tricks in 3@S than in 4@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: which really?   3@S with West   or   Pass from East??|pg||
nt|ritong: i mean 1) would bergen preempt two passed hands and 2) would west give up?|pg||
nt|ritong: esat*|pg||
nt|ritong: east**|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sure 3@S -- descriptive     East Passing -- that's why i said "might"  only 5 trump, 3 quick outside losers [3@S won't have Ace]|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
nt|rhelle: and that is 9 tricks|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: room is actually clearing out|pg||
mc|9|nt|bg: does bergen apply by a passed hand? 3s is just a preempt with good hands use drury|pg||
nt|rhelle: of course playing the @s 10 is his only legitimate chance of making his contract|pg||
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qx|o48|st||md|2SQ93HQT976DT65CK3,SKJT65H85DA87CJ82,S8HAK43DK92CA9765,SA742HJ2DQJ43CQT4|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: "Don't Touch That Card"|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: last hand for our table for this match|pg||
nt|warrens:  well, the Italians are going to have to work hard tonight|pg||
mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: congrats to Diamond Team advancing to Quarter Finals |pg||
nt|ahollan1: condolences to Schwartz but thanks for the good show|pg||
mb|p|nt|warrens:  but a lot of bridge left|pg||
mb|2D|an|!H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|an|alerted|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: final scores being posted on http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but somebody entered [wrong] results for OUR match!|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfb: I'll get it fixed when this board is over and I go out to the scoreboard|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Jan smiling because she thinks it is really Fleisher winning|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|warrens:  this looks like a push.  see you all tonight.  resume at 8:00 EST?|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: thanks to all spectators for spending time with us -- it is ok for you to go to Nickell table now|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|hT|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|nt|warrens:  start again in just under 2 hours|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h7|mc|11|pg||
qx|c48|st||md|2SQ93HQT976DT65CK3,SKJT65H85DA87CJ82,S8HAK43DK92CA9765,SA742HJ2DQJ43CQT4|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: final board of the 3rd Quarter    anticipate  15 minute break before final set begins|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: last board.  thanks all for watching.  quarterfinals start tomorrow at 1pm EDT|pg||
nt|hedyg: they play variable 14-16 and 15-17|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Jan must have reconnected|pg||
nt|algraves: they play more like 13 to bad 16|pg||
nt|wstuart: An interesting consideration on these 3NT rebids is what opener's holding in responder's suit is - it's reasonable to define it as with showing 1 or less or 2 or more.|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: There are many slam hands where that is the crucial and hard to determine peice of information if you don't ahve a specific agreemnt.|pg||
nt|rhelle: very hard to see ... you see, even at this level they slip up in defence|pg||
mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: but teams can agree to start earlier|pg||
nt|ritong: an other difficult decision|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok we have the scores now, great!|pg||
nt|algraves: versace right on the rule of 2 or 3|pg||
nt|hedyg: last board of this segment|pg||
nt|algraves: 7 tricks, no outside defense, classic|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: when raised, what to do?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 1pm EDT = 5pm GMT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@S easy  -- Moss 4@S probably easy too  since @Dxx|pg||
mb|1H|nt|rhelle: 1@d = 11-15, 3+@d, unbalanced|pg||
mb|1S|nt|dburn: this is a real chance for Fleisher|pg||
nt|dburn: five diamonds (even six diamonds) look vastly preferable to 3NT|pg||
nt|wstuart: Prob 2NT showing the str NT?|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ritong: enterprising 2@h|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the Open Room  Greco thought a long time before passing 3@S|pg||
nt|hedyg: short break and then 2nd segment|pg||
mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: if in 4@S, i think declarer has a chance|pg||
nt|ahollan1: take the plus|pg||
nt|algraves: and lauria adds his three tricks and there you have it|pg||
nt|mdgraham: wot hapen there?|pg||
nt|wstuart: but Chip will likely just kick it in to 3NT knowing he is facing at least some @H wastage for a slam.|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he could bid 3@h, just to make sure|pg||
nt|wstuart: true, they still have chances here|pg||
mb|4H|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: good match, shakes hands with opps.  fred: good play cashing @SA|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: thsi must imply a @D fit.|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Stanby probably will bid 3S|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i mentioned because South hand opposite a 14-16 NT improved during the auction|pg||
nt|dburn: well done Chip - knew you wouldn't let me down|pg||
nt|wstuart: I assume 3@C after 2NT would not have been forcing.|pg||
nt|chorush: I don't know enuf about their methods|pg||
nt|wstuart: Although, after a 2 level nerg DBL opposite a str NT it seems like it should be.|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@h looks like a make - especially with the @d Ace before the king|pg||
nt|rhelle: a game on pretty minimal values|pg||
pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: yes -- if EW negotiate @C ruff beat is easy|pg||
nt|rhelle: in the other room North opened 1NT - for reasons he better understand than I|pg||
nt|rhelle: and they made slam tried, all the way to 5@h :)|pg||
nt|rhelle: this was a very exciting set, been a long time since I saw so many swings|pg||
nt|rhelle: at this level, that is - my Monday night game produces them as well :)|pg||
pc|c5|nt|chorush: Katz is going to have a good idea what to lead if it plays here|pg||
nt|wstuart: Chip's sequence expresses doubt about 3NT and Lew's stopper is surely about as weak as they come.|pg||
nt|dburn: indeed - he cant pass, can he?|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|algraves: now diamond and diamond will eventually beat it|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but in real world ...|pg||
nt|dburn: no, he can't|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hA|nt|vugraphzfe: my computer is having some problem|pg||
nt|algraves: now Versace will have to guess TX in trumps to make|pg||
nt|hedyg: just a little bit more Liz! |pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|hedyg: so we will be back about 15 minutes after all finish|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry lag not responding|pg||
nt|algraves: pershaps south did overtake and it was missed by recorder|pg||
nt|hedyg: or he just misguessed|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: I tried to key it|pg||
nt|algraves: thrid diamond, and if neccessary 4th diamond promotes trump ten|pg||
nt|hedyg: np Liz, you didnt a good job! thanks @H|pg||
nt|hedyg: you did a good job* my keyboard too!|pg||
nt|algraves: even if south did not overtake it seems natural for West to misguess the third diamond after south wins trump ace|pg||
nt|sillafu: how can he misguess|pg||
nt|hedyg: Liz it is minus 1 for sure?|pg||
nt|hedyg: the result of -1 confirmed|pg||
nt|wstuart: Now they need to not overstate their values.|pg||
nt|wstuart: VWD for Martel-Stansby!|pg||
nt|wstuart: There is a reason they have won so many championships.|pg||
pc|h3|nt|chorush: looks like this one can't be beaten|pg||
nt|wstuart: (VWD = very well done)|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
nt|ritong: wow|pg||
pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: Deutsch [original  16]  dethrones the defenders Monaco   152-91|pg||
nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg||
nt|ritong: see you to morrow|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ok, we're done, see you tomorrow|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h7|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|rhelle: anyway .. thank you all for watching some exciting and great bridge|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: back in 15 after this board|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
mc|10|nt|rhelle: bye all|pg||
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