vg|2011 Vanderbilt R8 B,Segment 1 of 4,I,1,16,Cayne,0,Grue,0|
rs|5DNx-2,5HNx-1,4HW-2,3NS-1,4SS+1,4SS+1,4HE-2,4HE-1,3NE-2,2NE=,4HS-2,4HS-2,6SW=,6SW+1,5CW=,5CE=,6NE+1,6NW=,4HS=,4SS-1,3HS-2,4HS-4,4HS-3,1NS-1,2SE=,2DS=,4DW=,4HS-1,2SE=,2HN-1,4HW=,4HW-1|
pn|Seamon,Amoils,Cayne,Delmonte,Cheek,Versace,Grue,Lauria|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3ST7HK2DQ984CK9765,SAKJ2H6DJ65CQJT84,S5HAJT853DAKT7C32,SQ98643HQ974D32CA|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|vugraphzfg: I know I mistyped link it's www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion|pg||
mb|d|mb|4S|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|d2|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg||
nt|po-s: looks like one more for the def|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s6|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|dJ|mc|9|pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3ST7HK2DQ984CK9765,SAKJ2H6DJ65CQJT84,S5HAJT853DAKT7C32,SQ98643HQ974D32CA|sv|o|nt|yuval10: very close match so far|pg||
nt|brolucius: I heard about a great defense from Zia this morning. His partner, who had opened 4H led the @HA against a slam. Dummy went down with a singleton and Zia false-carded the @HK from ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: @HK-x. Declarer ruffed the next round high from A-K-Q-x and Zia's J-x-x in trumps was promoted. Brilliant!|pg||
mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|hedyg: eventually the scores from all matches will show here : http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-8|pg||
mb|d|nt|yuval10: already some excitement, 6@d was made in the OR|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: some commotion as other tables restart|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Moss still studying.  deck may seem to have too many points in it|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hamman had only a sevn-card suit but it might easily have been 8-card.|pg||
mb|4S|nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann asks about 4D.  Gitelman writes: "I think splinter"|pg||
mb|4N|nt|yuval10: 5NT is interesting, of course in standart bridge it means to pick between 6 or 7, but it doesn't seem likely considering West' strength|pg||
nt|dburn: I guess North might bid 4NT|pg||
nt|brolucius: West leaps to 4@S rather than tip his hand with a cue-bid response. Interesting. He makes life more difficult for N/S that way.|pg||
nt|dburn: intending to convert clubs to diamonds to show 6-4|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: with 5-5, he would bid diamonds at once|pg||
mb|5C|nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann exhales deeply. looks tired|pg||
mb|d|mb|5D|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: green cards placed delicately on the tray|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar sees them when the tray comes back, puts his cards down and his hands to his temples|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: nice easy board to start the set|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar leans back, crosses his legs, still thinking|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is great to see the top stars bid these competitive deals - a very difficult area for most of us.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Grue's strength limited by failure to open Precision @C|pg||
mb|5H|nt|vugraphzfe: fingering @DA and @DQ|pg||
nt|ritong: +|pg||
nt|dburn: as it is, diamonds may play better than hearts|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "sorry if this was wrong"|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: 6@d actually a lot better than 6NT, you can make it even when the K@h is off ( playing small @s from hand towards the Q, then if south doesn't jump you discard the K@s over the 4th ...|pg||
nt|yuval10: @c and if he does you can discard 2 @h's )|pg||
nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/lauria-versace.pdf|pg||
nt|dburn: but both contracts have issues of trump control|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Lauria is asking about 4nt|pg||
nt|hedyg: to watch multiple tables: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|dburn: not Blackwood|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi Liz :)|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: he needs an entry to his partners hand to beat this|pg||
mb|p|pc|cA|nt|hedyg: no he doest|pg||
nt|hedyg: doesnt|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he has three top tricks - the club ruff is for down two|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes|pg||
nt|dburn: although I guess that after the ruff, Grue can pick up the hearts|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cT|nt|brolucius: Spade switch is clear, but West can give a suit preference card anyway.|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|s3|nt|yuval10: here you have to rely on the @h finesse, but it worked so 2 imps for diamond |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Moss that 5N was pick a slam,  Gitelman thought it was choose 6 or 7|pg||
nt|yuval10: hi Joanna, thanks |pg||
pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
nt|dburn: whether he will or not is another matter|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|h4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|nt|ritong: it was not, as 5@d is a make|pg||
mc|10|nt|dburn: if he ran the jack of hearts and lost to a stiff queen, he would go down an awful lot|pg||
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qx|o2|st||md|4SQ42HKJ8DQ732C832,SAT53HAQ74DJT9C65,SJ7H3DAK86CKQJT94,SK986HT9652D54CA7|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|c4|nt|warrens:  Hello all|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|warrens:  this looks like -2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h6|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h4|nt|po-s: hello Warren, not playing?|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s3|pc|cT|pc|hT|pg||
mc|8|nt|warrens:  got a golf tournament this week instead, which leaves me time to watch/comment :)|pg||
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qx|c2|st||md|4SQ42HKJ8DQ732C832,SAT53HAQ74DJT9C65,SJ7H3DAK86CKQJT94,SK986HT9652D54CA7|sv|n|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "good pass of 5@C"|pg||
nt|ritong: and an other strret fight coming|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman: "I have to admit it occurred to me you were psyching there"|pg||
nt|hedyg: picked up the Q@H?|pg||
nt|dburn: but judging by that, he did well|pg||
nt|brolucius: A splendid opening board for us.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|yuval10: NS in the OR judged very well to bid to the 5 level|pg||
mb|1C|mb|2C|nt|brolucius: We are all indebted to BBO for letting us watch these top tournaments free of charge. I hope they don't change their mind one day...|pg||
mb|d|nt|yuval10: EW put maximum pressure over South|pg||
nt|hedyg: shhhhhhh! dont give them ideas!|pg||
mb|3C|nt|yuval10: but it seem as if he has a 5@h now|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 1@c= 2+|pg||
nt|brolucius: I will still be free for commentators, Hedy. No need to worry.|pg||
mb|3D|nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: a short fight, finally|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss grimaces a bit, points at dummy, still making plans|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ritong: shorter than next room, where EW pushed a bit|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: South must've been convinced that his Partner has void @s|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: on surface it looks like N's double meant to discourage his Partner of carry on|pg||
nt|brolucius: Although if the kibitzers had to pay they would probably be less tolerant of the mistakes that the commentators make.|pg||
nt|dburn: optimistic, that - should South really have both majors stopped and the ace of clubs?|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d4|nt|dburn: still, this lead may let him escape for down only one|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: some question whether the 84-44 carryover is correct|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol no Liz|pg||
nt|brolucius: This is E/W bidding.|pg||
nt|dburn: he won't make it with these cards, but maybe has more chance on the actual borad 3|pg||
nt|dburn: no, this is North-South bidding - they're just not bidding board 2 again|pg||
nt|harmon: theyve crossed rooms|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: we got disconnected sorry|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c2|nt|vugraphzfe: moss:"just to show off"|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg||
nt|hedyg: A@S?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Even if one of the majors was bare, West might have made an unlucky choice of lead. It was adventurous bidding by N/S that could have worked better.|pg||
nt|dburn: true, and I guess if South had a couple of aces, the unstopped major might well be 4-4 anyway|pg||
nt|brolucius: Good point.|pg||
nt|dburn: downgrade previous comment to "mildly optimisitic"|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s3|nt|hedyg: so he did play the A@S|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o3|st||md|1SAKQT65HTDTCKQ762,S4HKJ53DAJ72CA853,S832HA872DK954CJT,SJ97HQ964DQ863C94|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|po-s: does Cayne play some kind of Drury?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|po-s: probably not...|pg||
nt|warrens:  I don't know.  something looks wrong.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfg: He did alert, I can't see explanation|pg||
nt|vugraphzfg: Some kind of good raise I suspect|pg||
mb|p|nt|warrens:  Could be 6-9 with 3-card support (suggested by a kibbitzer and looks right)|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg||
nt|warrens:  "kibitzer"|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s2|nt|po-s: I like the possibility to differentiate between supports|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c3|st||md|1SAKQT65HTDTCKQ762,S4HKJ53DAJ72CA853,S832HA872DK954CJT,SJ97HQ964DQ863C94|sv|e|nt|vugraphzfe: moss very chatty.  asks whether @CT was suit pref|pg||
nt|ferlema: ok|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|vugraphzfe: kibitzer sits behind brad.  our first as opposed to the mob hovering at the zia-hamman table|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman, after sitting still for a minute, grabs the pass card off his tray|pg||
mb|2C|nt|ritong: he had no real reason to get involved here|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: a strong @c?|pg||
nt|dburn: by the look of things|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
nt|yuval10: time to stop now|pg||
nt|algraves: hello|pg||
nt|brolucius: That lead would have paid off if East held a singleton club.|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o4|st||md|2ST963H72DT98654CK,SQ84HAJ96DKCQJT82,SKJHT43DA732CA964,SA752HKQ85DQJC753|sv|b|nt|po-s: but what with club suit?|pg||
nt|warrens:  so, even though N showed a mild raise, S still showed a splinter in case his partner had 2 aces|pg||
nt|po-s: excuse me for an hour or so - bye|pg||
mb|1C|an|2+|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|warrens:  this can be beaten off the top, with a diamond shift then a club ruff|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|nt|warrens:  or with a spade shift now|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|d4|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|h2|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s9|nt|warrens:  -2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2ST963H72DT98654CK,SQ84HAJ96DKCQJT82,SKJHT43DA732CA964,SA752HKQ85DQJC753|sv|b|nt|ritong: 13 comparisons left|pg||
nt|hedyg: Liz is catching up|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry we lost our connection|pg||
mb|1C|nt|hedyg: of course when she got disconnected the players went on|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: time to get one or two solid shots for israeli pair|pg||
mb|1H|nt|ritong: hi yuv hi all|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|brolucius: Losing the connection is hardly your fault, Liz, unless you were unlucky where you spilt your coffee.|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|nt|yuval10: salut Henri|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann makes a fist to show that 2@H is strong.  gitelman gently passes|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: :)|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|nt|dburn: question of whether this goes down quickly or slowly, I guess|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ritong: 2NT artif prolly any gf hand with no suitable rebid|pg||
nt|yuval10: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: a kind of gazzilli, just upscaled|pg||
nt|bg: letssee|pg||
nt|ritong: you think he should act?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: just the manner, softly placing the card on the tray|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar: not the worst|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: then asks who wants water; moss accepts|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dQ|nt|dburn: a club lead would mean quickly, this means slowly - assuming the defense does nothing silly|pg||
pc|d4|nt|ritong: so far eldad has shown a strong 2 in @hs with questionable suit quality|pg||
nt|yuval10: double-dummy 6@h looks quite fair, but not today|pg||
nt|ritong: 2NT is a kind of puppet, asking opener to come back to his opening suit|pg||
nt|ritong: unless ha has real good news|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hK|nt|ritong: they did not want to try the coup three in a row  remained possible, though|pg||
nt|ritong: in this context, 3@c instead of 2NT would be forcing|pg||
nt|ritong: here, pachtmann had relatively good news|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman seems always in control, never on tilt, never in a hurry|pg||
nt|ritong: moss cares about the excited part|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hA|nt|ritong: with talent|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|hedyg: he ruffed the queen? really?|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3SK862HJT9DAQT82CK,SJ9H87DJ754CT7632,ST5HQ65432D3CJ984,SAQ743HAKDK96CAQ5|sv|n|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|an|negative|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|warrens:  even with this lead, this is going to be tough to make|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
nt|warrens:  an optimistic raise by W|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg||
nt|warrens:  I only see 6 tricks for declarer now.  2 @S, 2@H 1 @C and 1 @D maybe one more with an endplay|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|h2|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d7|nt|warrens:  ok, this gets him 7 and he's done|pg||
pc|h6|pc|dK|pg||
pc|cA|pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|c6|pc|h5|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3SK862HJT9DAQT82CK,SJ9H87DJ754CT7632,ST5HQ65432D3CJ984,SAQ743HAKDK96CAQ5|sv|n|mb|p|nt|hedyg: Liz is going to have a tough time if they play and claim so quickly|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|yuval10: this one looks routine|pg||
nt|ritong: other room EW got offboard due to the systemic 2@c opening|pg||
nt|ritong: showing the equivalent of a very good weak 2 in @cs|pg||
nt|ritong: if you wonder how they treat very strong hands, big @c is the answer|pg||
nt|ritong: any 16+ hand is opened 1@c|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: The East hand is worth an extra point, with those controls and the five-card spades.|pg||
nt|brolucius: On the convention card that I am looking at, 2NT shows only 20-21. That's puzzling.|pg||
nt|dburn: Cheek may well lead a heart, which will work rather well for him|pg||
nt|hedyg: except the @s suit is not nice and stiff AK not great for NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: so he downgraded?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Top players rarely downgrade.|pg||
pc|d8|nt|brolucius: Mind you, they don't miscount very often either.|pg||
nt|hedyg: i have 20-21(22) may have a 5 card major|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|nt|dburn: a diamond wn't work so well|pg||
nt|algraves: hello everyone|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d is 18-19(20)|pg||
nt|dburn: in fact, it may not work at all|pg||
nt|dburn: though declarer will still have to guess the play extremely well|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s9|nt|yuval10: 9 easy tricks from top|pg||
nt|ritong: brad is visibly sitting on the benefits|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry, got knocked off the internet but didn't miss any of the bridge|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|algraves: seems normal|pg||
pc|c4|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "that's too fast", takes time to study dummy|pg||
nt|ritong: just trying to avoid big swings|pg||
nt|ritong: if he was not doing that, he would certainly raise @ds|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss wrote: if you bid 1NT, X would be takeout. haven't discussed here|pg||
nt|ritong: which were freely bid by his pard|pg||
nt|hedyg: so now he knows no @D in N|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
nt|hedyg: why @c rather than @H?|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h2|nt|bg: some may try to run club 8 now but not at imps risk of losing 4 dia tricks|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he probably knew that anyway - he would not expect Cheek to lead from @dAQ108 only against 2NT - all pass|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|nt|bg: if N doesnt keep his two spades E could make 4 on an andplay|pg||
pc|cA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|c6|pc|h3|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4SK9854HAK6542DCT3,SQ72HJ9DK62CAQ542,SJH7DAJ9754CKJ976,SAT63HQT83DQT83C8|sv|e|nt|vugraphzfg: Live streaming of this table at www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|an|forcing|mb|p|mb|4H|an|cld be 5-6|mb|p|nt|warrens:  is this 5-6 by agreement?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|warrens:  yes, this is 5-6 (thanks to a knowledgeable kibitzer)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
nt|warrens:  with standard signals, W might know his partner has a stiff @C|pg||
nt|vugraphzfg: Seamon: This auction hasn't come up in forever. If he always has 1-1, we'll stop playing it.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h3|nt|warrens:  if so, a club ruff and a trump shift would be perfect D|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|warrens:  even so, this will be ok.  |pg||
nt|warrens:  at best, -2 is likely|pg||
nt|vugraphzfg: Seamon says he ducked to keep W on lead, since he had such a hard time finding an exit the last time|pg||
pc|h9|pc|d4|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg||
pc|hK|pc|c5|pc|d5|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h6|nt|warrens:  W giving present count with the @C 5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|d7|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|warrens:  uh oh, now all the clubs are good.  E needs to cash the spade Ace|pg||
pc|sA|nt|warrens:  if he underleads, declarer can win the K and get 4 pitches from dummy|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|d9|pg||
nt|warrens:  a diamond back would also work, as long as E went up on the first @S|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|d8|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SK9854HAK6542DCT3,SQ72HJ9DK62CAQ542,SJH7DAJ9754CKJ976,SAT63HQT83DQT83C8|sv|e|nt|brolucius: They did well to go plus on those E/W cards. |pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: east tried a 1NT overcall in other room i d be surprised to see gitelman duplicate this|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ritong: assuming 1@s is the response here|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Sadam Hussein would describe this as the mother of all misfits.|pg||
nt|dburn: North-South will do well to go plus on these|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|hedyg: a nightmare to play|pg||
nt|brolucius: Was 3@D available?|pg||
nt|dburn: better not bid any more, or he may have a doubled nightmare to play|pg||
mb|4H|nt|algraves: will Lauria double if Cheek bids again?|pg||
nt|hedyg: if 2@s showed 6-5...|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|algraves: no could have been only 4 spades|pg||
nt|brolucius: I don't agree that it should show 5-6 (on the basis that North has denied four spades). That is a reasonable auction to describe a strong 4-6 hand. |pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ritong: this contract has a lot of play|pg||
nt|yuval10: 4@h looks makeable, so Schwartz team likely gets some imps back|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman studying the trick before turning it|pg||
nt|ritong: trump looks clear|pg||
nt|hedyg: then why bid 3@H?|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h3|nt|ritong: 7|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|ritong: brad has doubled, and not with a trump stack|pg||
nt|ritong: so he has values, including @h control|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann lowers screen, asks about carding, gitelman answers UDCA|pg||
nt|dburn: he doesn't have a bad hand for hearts, or so he hopes - that @sJ would be a working card, and he has an ace|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||
nt|algraves: down 2 or 3 it seems|pg||
nt|dburn: meanwhile, 3@d is pretty much bound to be hopeless unless partner miraculously has two of them|pg||
nt|brolucius: No reason whatsoever for Lauria to double, as I see it. |pg||
pc|d2|nt|ritong: ron tried a small @h to his stiff jack, but unfortunately moss was aware about that card|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|h2|pg||
nt|ritong: no clear reason to give up on trump attack|pg||
nt|hedyg: Lauria said he miscounted last hand, thought he had 21|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|nt|brolucius: Did he really, though, or was that just to annoy N/S?|pg||
pc|d5|pc|h8|pg||
nt|bg: Fred may regret tossing Dia|pg||
nt|bg: now if S ruffs a dia he cannot get off dummy without E playng another dia but he can discarf a club now Fred doent have anther dia|pg||
nt|ritong: far sighted, bruce|pg||
nt|yuval10: other room has already played twice as many boards as played here|pg||
nt|bg: if he ruffs a club now he has to finesse the dia|pg||
pc|h4|pc|c2|pc|d7|pc|hT|pg||
nt|hedyg: well it is what he said|pg||
nt|brolucius: You are at the table-side?|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s3|nt|bg: now everything sb ok|pg||
nt|ritong: notice that this move does not cost a trick, contrarily to superficial look|pg||
nt|hedyg: no but Liz is|pg||
nt|brolucius: Ah|pg||
nt|algraves: so two down is possible now|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|nt|marinesa: well done|pg||
nt|yuval10: making 5 now|pg||
nt|ritong: for the same 7|pg||
nt|yuval10: yep, wasn't rewarded for the fine play|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|hQ|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s8|mc|8|pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1SK3HT98DK974CJ843,SAQ854HJ42DACAQT6,S62HK763DT65CK972,SJT97HAQ5DQJ832C5|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4C|an|splinter|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|warrens:  this is a very friendly hand and does make 6@S|pg||
nt|warrens:  3 out of 4 possible finesses work and trumps are 2-2|pg||
mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|warrens:  hmm, trump lead?|pg||
nt|warrens:  :)|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
nt|warrens:  declarer should think about setting up @D's|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg||
nt|warrens:  he also has the spots for a cross ruff|pg||
nt|warrens:  cash the @C Ace, then the @H Ace and ruff a @D, then a @C, etc.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|s4|pc|d6|pg||
nt|warrens:  since the @S spots are so good, all he needs is for 2 rounds of @D ruffs to work|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|s7|pc|c4|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|s5|pc|dT|pg||
nt|warrens:  bingo|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1SK3HT98DK974CJ843,SAQ854HJ42DACAQT6,S62HK763DT65CK972,SJT97HAQ5DQJ832C5|sv|b|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: should have bid 5@S, you'd have bid 6|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: low heart might still pick off Tx or Txx with Gitelman|pg||
nt|dburn: looks like a Roland grand slam|pg||
nt|algraves: hmm|pg||
nt|hedyg: system summary for NS: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=577&pid=155|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|algraves: Lauria played too quickly there as it was clear to not play a third spade|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: they prolly have a tool to show 5@s 4@h limit|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: they are joking that it might go all pass at othe table|pg||
nt|dburn: but 6@s is pretty good - not straightforward to bid|pg||
nt|brolucius: Looks good for a splinter bid.|pg||
mb|3D|nt|ritong: that too|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: here we go|pg||
nt|bg: yes 2h =5spades 4 hearts|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|yuval10: West in the OR chose 1NT after South decided to open 1@d|pg||
mb|4C|nt|ritong: possible 11 tricks  let s see|pg||
nt|marinesa: many pairs play 2h is 5s,4h 0-9 and 2s is 5s,4h and 10-11 something in this range|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|marinesa: especially precision pairs|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@D shows a mixed raise.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: on the previous hand that is|pg||
nt|algraves: a lot of work to do in slam , KX spades is very favourable of course|pg||
nt|hedyg: a joke it is for sure|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am told: any shortness, 3@H ask and 3@S= singleton @C|pg||
nt|dburn: to say nothing of 4-3 diamonds with the king right, and the heart finesse on should North lead the suit|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not that this method appears on their card.|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|ritong: the @h 9 had for purpose to diagnose if south has a stiff honor|pg||
nt|ritong: noone would cover with Hx(x)|pg||
mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yuval10: have to go now, enjoy the rest of the match|pg||
nt|yuval10: bye|pg||
nt|ritong: ciao|pg||
nt|ritong: brad is not the only facetious one around this table, seems|pg||
nt|brolucius: Well bid, anyway. They are over the first hurdle of a two-hurdle-race.|pg||
nt|algraves: so all reasonable lines of play will work it seems|pg||
pc|d5|nt|hedyg: 3@D= fit and a singleton. 3@H asking etc|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|nt|vugraphzfe: fred asked about 3H and brad asked about 3D but I didn't get conclusive answers|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|hedyg: a limited hand, no more than 4-5 controls|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is reassuring when he takes so long to work out the best plan. Makes you want to give up the game when they pick up 12 tricks without pausing for breath.|pg||
nt|dburn: this is not easy|pg||
nt|algraves: lol, very complicated if you are trying to make with spades 3-1 as you would like to ruff 3 clubs in dummy|pg||
nt|dburn: he may start @cA, club ruff, @dQ intending to pitch a heart|pg||
nt|dburn: or, I suppose, he may just take the heart finesse|pg||
nt|dburn: don't see any other serious runners, but far from clear which of those two is favourite|pg||
nt|harmon: I think he needs the ht finesse, but I let better analysts decide|pg||
nt|algraves: yes he may be thinking of heart finesse and then if that works to finesse club with fall back on 2-2 spades with king on side|pg||
nt|brolucius: East did choose the splinter bid art the other table and, as you see, they have netted 1430 at the other table. If you put your cursor over the result, you can see the auction.|pg||
nt|algraves: first really big hand of the match as slam may not be bid in other room|pg||
nt|algraves: oh i see|pg||
nt|algraves: that is a great feature|pg||
nt|brolucius: A trump lead made it a bit easier.|pg||
nt|harmon: Fleischer leading Nickell 20-0 after 6|pg||
pc|h4|nt|vugraphzfe: and did not see what went under SK|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg||
nt|harmon: Hey if Alfredo agrees with me I cant be tooo wrong|pg||
nt|brolucius: He didn't agree with you very quickly...|pg||
nt|harmon: as long as he did lol|pg||
nt|brolucius: We will see if he agrees with Allan by finessing in clubs next!|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|algraves: lol, easy when you see all the cards|pg||
nt|harmon: Q of d my prediction|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
nt|dburn: that may come now|pg||
nt|brolucius: The defenders will be muttering to themselves under their breath. 'How many finesses is this guy going to take?!'|pg||
nt|hedyg: @s lead in OR|pg||
nt|harmon: ok Q of d now|pg||
nt|hedyg: ruff a @c first|pg||
nt|brolucius: The famous English player, Jeremy Flint, used to advise that you commit a huge amount of energy to the important boards. Operation Big Deal. That is exactly what Versace is doing.|pg||
nt|dburn: ace of hearts also not impossible, just to see whether he needs a heart pitch at all, but...|pg||
nt|dburn: ...that's probably too risky if the king doesn't drop|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|nt|harmon: thats better A|pg||
pc|c6|nt|ritong: yes|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|ritong: ensuring 10|pg||
nt|ritong: you never know|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|s5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sK|pg||
mc|13|nt|algraves: well played for sure|pg||
nt|brolucius: An excellent shared board.|pg||
nt|harmon: wd Alfredo|pg||
pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2SKT76H72D8543CQ84,S85HAQT643DCAJ753,SQJ32HKJ85DQT96CK,SA94H9DAKJ72CT962|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|warrens:  6@C is a pretty reasonable slam here|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|nt|vugraphzfg: Live streaming of this table at www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|warrens:  4@S might be RKC for @C's, I'm guessing|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|r|nt|warrens:  ok, this seems more likely :)|pg||
nt|warrens:  now W must be tempted to bid 6 @C|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg||
pc|dA|nt|warrens:  this looks like the right decision.  I don't see how to make 6@C.  Have to be careful in 5.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|c2|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c8|mc|11|nt|warrens:  now just loses a @H and claims 5|pg||
nt|vugraphzfg: Players taking a break|pg||
nt|vugraphzfg: Players coming back|pg||
pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SKT76H72D8543CQ84,S85HAQT643DCAJ753,SQJ32HKJ85DQT96CK,SA94H9DAKJ72CT962|sv|o|nt|ritong: nice slam|pg||
nt|ritong: notice greco's 2@c|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: arguing the score now|pg||
nt|ritong: starting with 1@s might be less efficient|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss thought there were only 7 tricks|pg||
nt|algraves: Versace has very good feel at the table|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|algraves: NS can remind themselves that slam is natural to bid and almost every line makes|pg||
mb|3S|an|shows 5 h 5 c|nt|ritong: will eldad suggest slam?|pg||
nt|harmon: 6c here not the worst contract ive ever seen|pg||
nt|dburn: been in worse slams than 6@s on these cards|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 3s alert|pg||
nt|dburn: sorry, than 6@c|pg||
mb|p!|nt|dburn: although it is certainly true that I have also been in worse slams than 6@s|pg||
nt|dburn: but not as many of them|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@D game-forcing|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|nt|bg: 3nt makes but hard to bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: nope|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: 1@H-2@D-3@S= show2 5+@H-5+@C 12-14|pg||
nt|algraves: that is an interesting treatment , lots of merit in it |pg||
pc|s7|nt|ritong: vulnerable brad would try|pg||
pc|s5|nt|bg: true Henri this is an imp scale type of hand|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|ritong: non vulnerable possible gain is not much bigger than possible loss|pg||
nt|ritong: so, better go quietly and avoid adrenalina rushes|pg||
nt|ritong: not that brad tends to avoid that:)|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|s8|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|nt|mslair: the fat lady will be singing soon|pg||
pc|c2|pc|h2|pg||
nt|marinesa: i'm surprised brad didn't make bid 2c followed by 2s, mild try, i think they play 2way cb|pg||
pc|c6|nt|algraves: now club to Ace guarantees is clubs no worse than 3-1|pg||
pc|c4|nt|bg: gain 6imps to make 3nt nv lose 5 if down one but gain 10 vul vs lose6 if down therefore bid close vul games|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ritong: hello mark|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c8|nt|mslair: hey|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3ST95H85DT87CT9765,SAQ7632HA43DAJCQ3,SJ84HJ976DQ42CK82,SKHKQT2DK9653CAJ4|sv|e|nt|ritong: pure coinflip slam|pg||
nt|ritong: but two keys off|pg||
nt|ritong: oy|pg||
nt|brolucius: Versace was exhausted after the previous board and bid 3@S so that his partner could take a fair share of the work.|pg||
nt|dburn: third slam in a row|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: this one rather better than the last|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|mslair: likely another 13 IMPs to the Diamond team|pg||
nt|ritong: unclear|pg||
nt|ritong: brad might make it short|pg||
mb|1S|nt|mslair: short by opening 4 hearts|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: or try some joke|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman showed interest when the tray came back.  usually is very stoic|pg||
nt|ritong: good time to have a gadget for minors|pg||
nt|brolucius: Another slam - just when I have to head for my wine-tasting. Ah well, it was 75 minutes very enjoyably spent. Bye!|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|nt|bg: NS have 7 losers hope they do not vul get them into unprofitable sac|pg||
nt|ritong: oy|pg||
nt|dburn: and seven making on a fluke if you accidentally bid it|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ritong: fred: really?"|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|dburn: 2NT forcing, no doubt a useful treatment, but Versace is a bit cramped for room now|pg||
mb|5N|nt|hedyg: Lauria has shown 16+ with 5+@d 4@H and no 3@ss|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: pick a slam sort of bid|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3NT probably denies 6 @ds now|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes 5NT= pick a slam|pg||
mb|6C|nt|ritong: pachtmann lost a big chance imho|pg||
nt|ritong: 4@h will sound bizarre to fred's ear|pg||
nt|ritong: if any:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: fred writes: not discussed. 2245|pg||
nt|ritong: til now, fred is super happy|pg||
nt|ritong: he had the right tool for a hand which is usually very tough to negotiate|pg||
nt|mslair: can't sign off in 5 hearts   I think he will bid 6 hearts  |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss bouncing nervously|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
mb|6D|nt|ritong: @s Q10 is awkward|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: just bid 4@s and check what happened after smoke clears up|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss also writes 2245|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss: he doesn't know anything about my hand|pg||
mb|6N|mb|p|nt|hedyg: pick one yourself?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: 6@c "you pick one", 6@d "all right", 6NT "not that one"|pg||
nt|algraves: well bid|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
pc|h6|nt|algraves: well he was probably no 0454 as no 3@C so 6@C 1453|pg||
nt|harmon: 6n wrong sided but safe|pg||
nt|hedyg: with 3 cards in @D Versace would probably have bid 4@d|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|c4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sJ|nt|algraves: some might open east hand 1NT or if 1@D then rebid 2@C afraid to reverse with marginal reversing values so credit to Lauria for just bidding naturally |pg||
pc|d3|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dA|mc|12|pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SAJT6HAQT864DQ9C8,S9HK9DAK832CQT763,SQ743H732DJ4CAKJ9,SK852HJ5DT765C542|sv|b|nt|ritong: on the other hand, 3@s will close the auction more often than not|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: loud discussion from hall, kibitzer gail greenberg hurries to close door|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: he claimed 7 on a squeeze but ns objected|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2N|nt|harmon: they were right too|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
mb|d|an|4 spades|mb|3D|nt|dburn: were they? wasn't North going to be show-up-squeezed in hearts and clubs?|pg||
nt|hedyg: i think so|pg||
mb|4C|nt|ritong: mrs greenberg is brad's mom|pg||
nt|algraves: so cheek and gure play negative doubles after 2NT unusual|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: south said he was able to pitch|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: grue coulda pitched his q of d|pg||
nt|dburn: he was right about that|pg||
mb|4H|nt|harmon: no diff|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: grue needed Q10 of d|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|ritong: makeable|pg||
nt|ritong: auction is crystal|pg||
pc|d4|nt|ritong: guess @ds and bye bye clara|pg||
nt|bg: personally I am not a fan of not bidding out shape the 3 club bid could be an artificial force in some structures I would bid 4 clubs over 3 spades and show the shape|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i thought @CK to @D finesse was mirage|pg||
nt|ritong: a decision, al|pg||
nt|ahollan1: seems extra chances if low @D from hand|pg||
nt|ritong: the guess is: who has @d Hx|pg||
nt|ritong: when south can have @d HHx, i agree small to ten is better|pg||
nt|dburn: might have been easier in hearts, this|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ritong: pass over 1@s is three @ss and mini values|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|nt|ritong: now of course, if north ducks smoothly..|pg||
nt|ritong: redouble is " please look closer"|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ritong: and pass over 2@h is " no, really sorry mate"|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: brad sees dummy, calls director, suggests ginossar has broken tempo over 2@S|pg||
nt|ritong: my perso style would be a fitjump in 2@s after pass|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
nt|ritong: showing 5@s 4@d inviting values|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: none of these players will pass immediately with no problem as some others do|pg||
nt|dburn: in spades, declarer will have to pick up the trumps|pg||
nt|dburn: and he may not have the entries to do it, once he finds that East has four|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ahollan1: after @SA lead @Dx seems even clearer -- then @DA and if suit not running, hope for 5@C 1@D 2@H 1@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if North wins @D -- well you're no worse off|pg||
nt|bg: only hopr her is a low dia play N for doubleton honor|pg||
nt|ahollan1: retraction -- just noticed @C discard from trick 1|pg||
nt|dburn: GIB would make it, of course, but although Cheek is a terrific player, he doesn't make everything that GIB would|pg||
pc|s3|nt|ritong: gitelmoss certainly reserv that to an other handtype|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar seemed upset by the director call, takes some time to compose himself|pg||
pc|d7|nt|ritong: he had to decide early|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe that should have been @D|pg||
nt|algraves: the downside to 2 suited interference is the distributional information it gives away|pg||
nt|dburn: Cheek may have been uncertain as to whether 4@h was an offer to play, or a control-bid for spades|pg||
nt|dburn: if he'd known it was the former, he'd almost certainly have passed it|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg||
nt|harmon: play ht now|pg||
nt|harmon: needs hts 2-2|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion|pg||
pc|h2|nt|dburn: if he loses a heart to West and a fourth round of diamonds is played...|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|ritong: he will learn|pg||
nt|harmon: HE NEEDED the heart hook of he couldnt make it|pg||
nt|dburn: ...well, I guess he can handle that, but if one isn't played, he can't pick the spades up|pg||
nt|harmon: or|pg||
pc|c3|nt|ritong: smells like a push|pg||
nt|algraves: nice defense of course|pg||
nt|dburn: he might, though, have decided not to finesse hearts - he could make by finessing clubs instead|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ritong: stay stoic|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: need Michael Rosenberg or Bart Bramley for the single-dummy analysis|pg||
pc|s5|nt|ritong: for that matter, if someone has to get upset, it is rather pachtmann|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c6|pg||
nt|algraves: interesting after the thrid @D , |pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|nt|ritong: ...|pg||
nt|ritong: who had an obvious call, especially in a trailing context, so nothing mean will happen|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss stretches, sighs, taps on the table|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|algraves: that was fine play by Versace|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1SJT2H953DQ92C8632,SA873HJ62DAKJTC54,SK654HAKT7D63CAKQ,SQ9HQ84D8754CJT97|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: very intriguing hand   and records will say  "just a push"|pg||
nt|dburn: still, declarer should probably have made it given the bidding|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|nt|algraves: how does he make after the ruff sluff?|pg||
mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: with 3 to score   O'Rourke leads Nickell by 7|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 1@H or 1@s?|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|harmon: he cant unless ht onside that was my point|pg||
pc|dA|nt|harmon: before everyone yelled at mne lol|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ritong: lets see if fred can save 1 imp making 9|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss trying to find an escort to leave the room and ginossar tells him just to go|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: some back and forth between boards about the alleged tempo break|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d9|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|nt|bg: fred the magician can only make 3 if N plays 3 rounds of spades|pg||
nt|ritong: he has 8 on top and NS can try to establish a long @s|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|cK|nt|vugraphzfe: director said if tray passes back within 25 seconds it is not a break in tempo|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c6|nt|ritong: cashing time|pg||
nt|bg: or leads a third dia:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: you all think the 4@H bid is ok?|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|algraves: yes , ptich heart on third diamond , Q@S, low@S to J|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h4|nt|ritong: good move|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|hedyg: specs all bid 2@d|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s2|nt|algraves: club finesse , A and @H|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|s8|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|hT|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg||
nt|algraves: Versace has no answer, if @D then ruff in dummy pitch heart AK @C|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SA62HA8543D3CQ986,SQ3HT976DJ654CJ53,SK975HQJ2DQ72CA74,SJT84HKDAKT98CKT2|sv|n|nt|vugraphzfe: moss comes back and apologizes: "don't want to imply anything", shakes pachtmann's hand, says "we'll talk about it in the bar"|pg||
nt|harmon: then what|pg||
nt|algraves: then claim|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: how|pg||
mb|1D|nt|ritong: if brad opens, they will prolly be in 4NT|pg||
nt|ritong: hm|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: curious that Moss opens playing 2/1  and Verhees did NOT playing a Big Club system|pg||
nt|dburn: then, he has the ace and jack of spades, and the lead is in dummy|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ritong: 4NT swish|pg||
nt|harmon: hts havent been played|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: NS play precision so 1@D can be many kinds of hands|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: for specs unfamiliar with the treatment    2N showed Balanced Game Force   a totally new concept that was introduced in 1920s|pg||
nt|bg: this pair obviously use 2nt as a balanced openig bid vs others who use Jacoby--both styles have their merits|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: awkward for South, this|pg||
mb|p|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dT|nt|hedyg: what a lead|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg||
nt|hedyg: Liz the tables dont seem to be connected?|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s2|nt|vugraphzfe: fred calling cards so softly moss has to ask|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dA|pc|s6|pc|dJ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg||
nt|hedyg: bd 10 Seamon played in 4@H and made it|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: I don't know, I have no control over that connection|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: but i will try to find out about it|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty Liz|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|bg: 2nt as analanced GF was very prevalent in the 40's and 50's if I recall Al|pg||
pc|c6|pc|sQ|nt|vugraphzfe: running away with it here|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|bg: balanced|pg||
pc|h2|pc|c2|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|cT|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3S753HKDAQ32CAJ865,SAJ9HA975DT975CK3,SQ42H8432DKJ8CT97,SKT86HQJT6D64CQ42|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|mc|8|pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3S753HKDAQ32CAJ865,SAJ9HA975DT975CK3,SQ42H8432DKJ8CT97,SKT86HQJT6D64CQ42|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: i think Culbertson's 2N was forcing too|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: thought Acol introduced 2N as invite  and artificial Game Force was Ozzie & Jim Jacoby  early 60s??|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ritong: not sure about their style, but this @c Ax is surely worth an effort|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C must deny 3+@S|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|hedyg: bd 9 6NT +1|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: just not sure if 6th @C shown|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: i think double dummy defense can set this 4    starts with @H lead|pg||
nt|ritong: now a battle of undertricks|pg||
nt|ritong: three looks like a lot of them|pg||
nt|ahollan1: then they must untangle @S winners while retaining transportation in @H -- extremely unlikely|pg||
nt|bg: rebid of the minor usually shows 6 with 3 hearts better to raise hearts with unbalanced hand|pg||
nt|ritong: but|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right Bruce -- but there is slight impact playing transfer responses|pg||
nt|ritong: try @c hook, loses, a @h back|pg||
nt|hedyg: bd 11 3@H -2|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ritong: now the contract makes with @d K on|pg||
pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: depending on 1N rebid -- 1@H can be used to show exactly 3@H [1N=weak balanced hand] or 2/3@H  [1N=18-19]|pg||
nt|harmon: Hedy why u disconnect tables??|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|ritong: so 3@h 2@s 1@c 1@d|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann picked up his bidding cards, trying to end the auction before the tray passed back. perhaps has given up|pg||
nt|hedyg: moi?|pg||
nt|harmon: vous|pg||
nt|hedyg: jamais!|pg||
nt|hedyg: score is 28-7|pg||
nt|hedyg: for Cayne|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann toying with his cards, trick 1 still faced|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|d2|pg||
nt|bg: do you try to make or play dia ace and concede down one;)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: screen lowered while moss whispers a question|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: stretches, sighs, cracks his knuckles behind his head|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: certainly not acting like the match is decided|pg||
pc|c6|nt|harmon: Versace/Lauria playing GREAT!!!!|pg||
pc|s9|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: jeff meckstroth:  they still pay bonus for making game, don't they?|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d8|pg||
pc|c8|pc|sJ|pc|dJ|nt|vugraphzfe: may be forced to get it right from here|pg||
nt|ritong: completely so|pg||
nt|ritong: just exit a @h, just in case|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: and on that reference  with 2 to score   O'Rourke leads Nickell by 12|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ritong: not anymore|pg||
nt|ritong: so, @c QJ on and good bye|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sets his hand down, sighs again.  really sweating this one|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|bg: they also pay 5 imps for being down 200 less just a point of view|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SA3HK962DQT98CQ76,SJ874HJ8DAKJ7643C,ST2HAQT5D2CKJ9543,SKQ965H743D5CAT82|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfg: They have the board backward|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|h8|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|mc|10|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SA3HK962DQT98CQ76,SJ874HJ8DAKJ7643C,ST2HAQT5D2CKJ9543,SKQ965H743D5CAT82|sv|o|mb|p|nt|hedyg: bd 12 S is playing 4@h|pg||
mb|1D|mb|3D|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ritong: ginossar/pachtmann not having fun|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nickell v O'Rourke showing  Nickell +7 with 2 to play  there is possible scoring error of 3 or 4 imps [it would be in favor of O'Rourke]|pg||
nt|hedyg: live streaming from the OR: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: 2@S instead of 1N means Moss ON DEFENSE gets 100 honors|pg||
nt|bg: not much joy in this hand eather|pg||
nt|ritong: but imps no matter what|pg||
nt|ritong: even if few|pg||
nt|hedyg: far left is Cayne, far right Amoils|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg||
nt|ritong: and a @h|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d by Versace would have shown both majors|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sQ|nt|ritong: best is to duck that|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred fidgeting with quitted trick, hand folded|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh  bigtrain [Walter Johnson] says if scoring error  it would be Nickell +1 with 1 to play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: amazing our match had ANY spectators|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: with bbotv can watch more than one room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: too right -- never thought about them  even though one is ME|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred finally fans his cards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but we who logged in to watch this match  saw a lot of very solid play from Diamond|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|hedyg: bd 12 5 imps to Grue, 4@H -3|pg||
nt|hedyg: 28 - 12|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|nt|bg: sometimes better to use only two entries to play on side duit like clubs which requires two finesses  and jus lead spade away from king|pg||
nt|ahollan1: whoa    de ja vu|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|s8|pc|c4|pc|sK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d3|mc|9|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1SAJ9HQ7DAJT52CA85,ST3HA8652DQ93CJT6,S65HJT943D86CK973,SKQ8742HKDK74CQ42|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|an|!H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1SAJ9HQ7DAJT52CA85,ST3HA8652DQ93CJT6,S65HJT943D86CK973,SKQ8742HKDK74CQ42|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: unofficial   Nickell beats O'Rourke by 1|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred mumbles sorry.  moss:"I could have played @SK at trick one"|pg||
nt|ritong: extremely unofficial|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2 possible scoring errors so stand by|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|ritong: not sure moss should go high with both opps passed|pg||
mb|1D!|nt|algraves: he had to draw exactly 2 @H then play on clubs. Lauria can win thrid club and play @S but you ruff in dummy and ruff club and play last heart to dummy to draw trumps|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: moss wide-eyed at the 5@H call|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: bd 13 2@s by E|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 2 scores in  Fleisher leads by 37 over Onstott    Berg over Lynch by 74|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: !|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|ritong: 1NT response had a small chance  2@s has not|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we'll surely see Nickell v O'Rourke in final set of the night -- and if this table one of last to finish this match too|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "sorry if this is wrong"|pg||
nt|algraves: he was playing east to be 7411 I think|pg||
pc|s9|nt|ritong: on the other hand, 1NT with four trumps, a singleton and a king would be fancy|pg||
pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: looks like Nickell will end set trailing O'Rourke by 8|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this result easy to accept -- when you're +80|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
pc|c2|nt|ritong: forgiven|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: forgotten :)|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred calling cards more audibly this hand|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: Bergen would bid 1@S-3@S   that might convince East to Pass|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ritong: really?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and probably easier to find 9 tricks in 3@S than in 4@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: which really?   3@S with West   or   Pass from East??|pg||
nt|ritong: i mean 1) would bergen preempt two passed hands and 2) would west give up?|pg||
nt|ritong: esat*|pg||
nt|ritong: east**|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sure 3@S -- descriptive     East Passing -- that's why i said "might"  only 5 trump, 3 quick outside losers [3@S won't have Ace]|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: room is actually clearing out|pg||
pc|s6|nt|bg: does bergen apply by a passed hand? 3s is just a preempt with good hands use drury|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3 results posted at http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nickell showing as +3 but unofficial|pg||
pc|sA|pc|h5|pc|d6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: 3@S still preempt -- but 2N/3@C/3@D meanings do change by passed hand|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg||
pc|h7|nt|hedyg: why no 1NT opening in S?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|s8|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2SKT6HA65DQ852C962,S83HKQJ98743D74C7,SJ9754HT2DKJCAJ85,SAQ2HDAT963CKQT43|sv|e|nt|warrens:  no way to prevent declarer from getting to the dummy for a @D discard|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
nt|warrens:  a little light for an unfavorable 4@H, but his partner's got him protected.|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg||
nt|warrens:  needed a @D back to beat it.  now should make with a club discard for the losing @D|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|nt|warrens:  declarer might have gone up at trick one to make it|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|d6|pc|hA|pg||
mc|10|nt|warrens:  all tied up|pg||
nt|warrens:  how long a break, do we know?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfg: I'll find out|pg||
nt|vugraphzfg: 9 minutes left on the clock|pg||
pg||
qx|c16|st||md|2SKT6HA65DQ852C962,S83HKQJ98743D74C7,SJ9754HT2DKJCAJ85,SAQ2HDAT963CKQT43|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: final board of the 3rd Quarter    anticipate  15 minute break before final set begins|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: last board.  thanks all for watching.  quarterfinals start tomorrow at 1pm EDT|pg||
nt|hedyg: they play variable 14-16 and 15-17|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Jan must have reconnected|pg||
nt|algraves: they play more like 13 to bad 16|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: but teams can agree to start earlier|pg||
nt|ritong: an other difficult decision|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok we have the scores now, great!|pg||
nt|algraves: versace right on the rule of 2 or 3|pg||
nt|hedyg: last board of this segment|pg||
nt|algraves: 7 tricks, no outside defense, classic|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ritong: when raised, what to do?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 1pm EDT = 5pm GMT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@S easy  -- Moss 4@S probably easy too  since @Dxx|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: enterprising 2@h|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the Open Room  Greco thought a long time before passing 3@S|pg||
nt|hedyg: short break and then 2nd segment|pg||
pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: if in 4@S, i think declarer has a chance|pg||
nt|ahollan1: take the plus|pg||
nt|algraves: and lauria adds his three tricks and there you have it|pg||
pc|dA|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: good match, shakes hands with opps.  fred: good play cashing @SA|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: i mentioned because South hand opposite a 14-16 NT improved during the auction|pg||
pc|c9|nt|ahollan1: yes -- if EW negotiate @C ruff beat is easy|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|pg||
nt|algraves: now diamond and diamond will eventually beat it|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: but in real world ...|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: my computer is having some problem|pg||
nt|algraves: now Versace will have to guess TX in trumps to make|pg||
nt|hedyg: just a little bit more Liz! |pg||
mc|9|nt|hedyg: so we will be back about 15 minutes after all finish|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry lag not responding|pg||
nt|algraves: pershaps south did overtake and it was missed by recorder|pg||
nt|hedyg: or he just misguessed|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: I tried to key it|pg||
nt|algraves: thrid diamond, and if neccessary 4th diamond promotes trump ten|pg||
nt|hedyg: np Liz, you didnt a good job! thanks @H|pg||
nt|hedyg: you did a good job* my keyboard too!|pg||
nt|algraves: even if south did not overtake it seems natural for West to misguess the third diamond after south wins trump ace|pg||
nt|sillafu: how can he misguess|pg||
nt|hedyg: Liz it is minus 1 for sure?|pg||
nt|hedyg: the result of -1 confirmed|pg||
pg||
