vg|2011 Vanderbilt Semi B,Segment 1 of 4,I,1,16,Fleisher,0,Diamond,0|
rs|3SN+1,2DS=,3HW+1,2DE-2,1NW-2,1NW-2,2SW+2,4SW=,5DW+1,5CE+1,5DN+1,6DN=,4HN=,5HS-2,4SN-3,3DN+1,2HN=,5DW-1,4SN+3,6SN+1,4SNx-1,4HWxx-2,3DW-1,3DW-1,6SW+1,6SW+1,1NE-2,3CE-2,4SW-1,4SW-2,4SN+1,4SN+1|
pn|Martel,Diamond,Stansby,Platnick,GRECO,WEINSTEIN,HAMPSON,LEVIN|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SKQ9HK84DAKQJ5CQ6,ST4H72DT874CAKT82,SJ7653HT96D2C7543,SA82HAQJ53D963CJ9|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfc: good afternoon, we are live from louisville, KY|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|imp_jan: hi folks|pg||
nt|imp_jan: semi's of the vandy just begin|pg||
mb|d|mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: Team Diamond won the Rosenblum last year in Philadelphia|pg||
mb|2C|nt|Vugraphzfc: 1N alerted, but too small to read, sorry|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: and Fleisher won US TT for the Bermuda Bowl in Veldhoven  next October ('USA 1 ')|pg||
mb|2S|nt|imp_jan: 1n prob trsf to clubs|pg||
mb|3C|nt|Vugraphzfc: yes, confirmed by auction... ;)|pg||
nt|imp_jan: interesting 3@C bij east here|pg||
nt|imp_jan: may be 3@H as last try|pg||
nt|imp_jan: by south|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: yes|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: work to do in 3@S|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Jan is 1 for 1...|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|Vugraphzfc: 1 prediction, correct ;)|pg||
nt|imp_jan: will be followed by lost of stupo's|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h7|nt|imp_jan: lots|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: lol|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg||
nt|imp_jan: west convinced of 3@c by east|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|h6|nt|imp_jan: looks like @S8 might be important|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg||
nt|imp_jan: duck|pg||
nt|imp_jan: hm|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|sT|nt|imp_jan: now made, club-club was requiered|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3SKQ9HK84DAKQJ5CQ6,ST4H72DT874CAKT82,SJ7653HT96D2C7543,SA82HAQJ53D963CJ9|sv|o|nt|yuval10: very close match so far|pg||
nt|brolucius: I heard about a great defense from Zia this morning. His partner, who had opened 4H led the @HA against a slam. Dummy went down with a singleton and Zia false-carded the @HK from ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: @HK-x. Declarer ruffed the next round high from A-K-Q-x and Zia's J-x-x in trumps was promoted. Brilliant!|pg||
nt|sybarra: not showing my age, just showing my knowledge of old movies|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Cayne match also exchanged about 100 imps last set for a negligible change in the match|pg||
nt|ritong: soooo...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other rooms are visible via http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
nt|ritong: apparently needs a @c lead to beat 4@s|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|hedyg: eventually the scores from all matches will show here : http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3rd Quarter results at  http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-8|pg||
nt|sybarra: you must open a brouser for each room  |pg||
mb|d|nt|yuval10: already some excitement, 6@d was made in the OR|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: some commotion as other tables restart|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Moss still studying.  deck may seem to have too many points in it|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hamman had only a sevn-card suit but it might easily have been 8-card.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: convention cards from 2010 Team Trials online for both teams|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann asks about 4D.  Gitelman writes: "I think splinter"|pg||
nt|harmon: Hi all|pg||
nt|harmon: Team captain here so iahve to behave:)|pg||
nt|rhelle: hello everyone|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=659&Itemid=284|pg||
mb|1S|nt|yuval10: 5NT is interesting, of course in standart bridge it means to pick between 6 or 7, but it doesn't seem likely considering West' strength|pg||
nt|dburn: I guess North might bid 4NT|pg||
nt|brolucius: West leaps to 4@S rather than tip his hand with a cue-bid response. Interesting. He makes life more difficult for N/S that way.|pg||
nt|dburn: intending to convert clubs to diamonds to show 6-4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=656&Itemid=284|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: with 5-5, he would bid diamonds at once|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=0-8 HCP  or  9+ with no more than 1 King|pg||
mb|2D|nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann exhales deeply. looks tired|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: NS play a version of Precision   EW 2/1 with lots of special agreements|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 1NT by North is normally 12.5 - 15|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: green cards placed delicately on the tray|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar sees them when the tray comes back, puts his cards down and his hands to his temples|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: nice easy board to start the set|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar leans back, crosses his legs, still thinking|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is great to see the top stars bid these competitive deals - a very difficult area for most of us.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Grue's strength limited by failure to open Precision @C|pg||
nt|ritong: and leading a @c from Jx is highly unlikely|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other tables visibe using http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
pc|cA|nt|vugraphzfe: fingering @DA and @DQ|pg||
nt|ritong: +|pg||
nt|dburn: as it is, diamonds may play better than hearts|pg||
nt|dburn: this probably isn't the real auction|pg||
nt|rhelle: I have no idea what is going on - looks like a transcription error|pg||
nt|sybarra: good flop as Henri says?|pg||
nt|ritong: especially with a potential trump trick|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW leads/carding  3rd/5th vs suit  4th vs NT    upside-down count & attitude|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm pretty sure both matches playing the same boards|pg||
pc|c3|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "sorry if this was wrong"|pg||
nt|harmon: yes|pg||
nt|dburn: but if North passed, it would be|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|yuval10: 6@d actually a lot better than 6NT, you can make it even when the K@h is off ( playing small @s from hand towards the Q, then if south doesn't jump you discard the K@s over the 4th ...|pg||
nt|yuval10: @c and if he does you can discard 2 @h's )|pg||
nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/lauria-versace.pdf|pg||
nt|dburn: but both contracts have issues of trump control|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Lauria is asking about 4nt|pg||
nt|hedyg: to watch multiple tables: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|dburn: not Blackwood|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi Liz :)|pg||
nt|rhelle: I think NS are in 2@d|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|ritong: @h now|pg||
pc|cK|nt|chorush: Hello everyone|pg||
pc|c4|nt|hedyg: he needs an entry to his partners hand to beat this|pg||
pc|c9|nt|ritong: being one tempo ahead|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|hedyg: no he doest|pg||
nt|hedyg: doesnt|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he has three top tricks - the club ruff is for down two|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes|pg||
nt|dburn: although I guess that after the ruff, Grue can pick up the hearts|pg||
nt|sybarra: not sure he can handle it all|pg||
nt|ritong: he can|pg||
nt|ritong: fred has two @cs|pg||
pc|cT|nt|Jacki: welcome Ira chorush|pg||
pc|c5|nt|brolucius: Spade switch is clear, but West can give a suit preference card anyway.|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h4|pg||
nt|yuval10: here you have to rely on the @h finesse, but it worked so 2 imps for diamond |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Moss that 5N was pick a slam,  Gitelman thought it was choose 6 or 7|pg||
nt|yuval10: hi Joanna, thanks |pg||
pc|d3|nt|chorush: This is an agressive 6 spade contract which might make on a good day, which this is not|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|nt|dburn: whether he will or not is another matter|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|h6|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ritong: it was not, as 5@d is a make|pg||
pc|d8|nt|dburn: if he ran the jack of hearts and lost to a stiff queen, he would go down an awful lot|pg||
pc|s3|pc|h3|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dT|nt|ritong: hello everybody|pg||
pc|c7|pc|h5|pg||
nt|ritong: it is doubtful @c lead will be found next room, so expected push|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: Levin-Weinstein  upside-down Attitude  standard Count|pg||
mc|8|nt|ahollan1: Greco-Hampson  upside-down count & attitude|pg||
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qx|o2|st||md|4SA86HQDKJ63CQ9742,SK975HT97654D7CK5,SJ32HK83DT9CAJT63,SQT4HAJ2DAQ8542C8|sv|n|nt|imp_jan: if east wld west like west to ruff with bare @SJ he wld have proceeded with a low heart|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|imp_jan: 4@H on thin values|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N!|nt|Vugraphzfc: 2N showed 6 @ds|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: and 3 @Hs, max|pg||
nt|imp_jan: 2n shwoing long diamonds, may be with 3crd heart (i am not sure)|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C!|nt|Vugraphzfc: i am sure ;)|pg||
mb|d|mb|3D|nt|imp_jan: pretty  common nowadays, but where is the max?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfc: 3@H bar|pg||
nt|imp_jan: west fishing for the heart game|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: nope|pg||
nt|imp_jan: 3@D probably min|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|imp_jan: lots of question here, cant answer them, on my own here..|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: UDCA by e-w|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: sorry can't disturb players to ask...|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg||
nt|imp_jan: so ew did a much better job here then levin-weinstein in the CR (2@D went down 2)|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|h5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|h2|nt|imp_jan: so declarer will make 10 tricks|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|imp_jan: and after the brd we have a new leader :)|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|h9|nt|Vugraphzfc: sorry about that, 2 much party last night...|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hJ|mc|10|pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4SA86HQDKJ63CQ9742,SK975HT97654D7CK5,SJ32HK83DT9CAJT63,SQT4HAJ2DAQ8542C8|sv|n|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "good pass of 5@C"|pg||
nt|ritong: and an other strret fight coming|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman: "I have to admit it occurred to me you were psyching there"|pg||
nt|hedyg: picked up the Q@H?|pg||
nt|dburn: but judging by that, he did well|pg||
nt|brolucius: A splendid opening board for us.|pg||
nt|wstuart: Hi all.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry i just walked in and I'm afraid I missed the auction|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: we lost our connection|pg||
nt|ritong: and we start with slammy hands|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the match ends with board 64 [unless tie]  winners play in Semi-Finals tomorrow   losers  maybe watch vugraph|pg||
nt|ritong: previous set was WoW about these|pg||
nt|ahollan1: welcome a well rested Henri|pg||
mb|1D|nt|chorush: hi Wayne|pg||
nt|ritong: interesting hand, regarding style|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2010 Trials Convention cards online for both teams|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: NS in the OR judged very well to bid to the 5 level|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW 1N=good 14 to 17|pg||
nt|sybarra: transfer to @D and 3 nt?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think they play   3@C=@D  [weak or FG]|pg||
nt|ritong: i do not think brad will content himself with that, shirley|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well Shirley's sequence should be mild slam try  otherwise just 1N-3N|pg||
nt|sybarra: matter of agreements re the transfer sequence|pg||
nt|ritong: there are other considerations|pg||
nt|sybarra: or another sequence maybe be game force stayman...and..|pg||
nt|ritong: one is moss' hand is really good and justifies more than a mild try|pg||
nt|ritong: an other is, when you transfer for @ds and bid 3NT afterwards, there must be a reason  for us, it shows @c shortness|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other room has already crashed once -- are we in holding pattern because of connection or is Brad in the tank?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Diamond  http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=656&Itemid=284|pg||
mb|1H|nt|dburn: don't worry - the play is not likely to be too fast for you to keep up with from now on|pg||
nt|sybarra: this is on page 240 of the system notes right? |pg||
nt|ritong: not really|pg||
nt|sybarra: or maybe 142|pg||
nt|ritong: will levin repeat @ds or raise @hs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Fleisher  http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=659&Itemid=284|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: We are all indebted to BBO for letting us watch these top tournaments free of charge. I hope they don't change their mind one day...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @H|pg||
mb|2D|nt|yuval10: EW put maximum pressure over South|pg||
nt|hedyg: shhhhhhh! dont give them ideas!|pg||
nt|wstuart: Have Chips and Lew changed to a str NT vul?|pg||
nt|wstuart: *Chip|pg||
nt|chorush: yes|pg||
nt|007 joosth: always thinking  about chips?  :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: but it seem as if he has a 5@h now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: anyone believe that was a typo??|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 1@c= 2+|pg||
nt|brolucius: I will still be free for commentators, Hedy. No need to worry.|pg||
nt|chorush: that dbl has just transformed this hand from something resembling a push to a swing for Nickell|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: chip wrote 12-14|pg||
nt|wstuart: He wrote 12-14 on the notepad the operator says.  This is very un-Chip-like.  He's a very aggressive player and I wouldn't expect him to downgrade a controlish 15 HCP, even though ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: it is 4333.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: well at least im here now for the auction|pg||
nt|ritong: naturally so:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|rhelle: 6@c looks like a decent contract - not easy to bid though|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ahh  4@H Ace Ask   taking control|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ritong: a short fight, finally|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss grimaces a bit, points at dummy, still making plans|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: i should say Key Card Ask      5@C=2 without Q|pg||
pc|h3|nt|ritong: shorter than next room, where EW pushed a bit|pg||
nt|chorush: It may only be 3rd 4th position vul|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|yuval10: South must've been convinced that his Partner has void @s|pg||
nt|wstuart: At one time they played 12-14 in all seats *except* 3rd, where it was 15-17.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i wonder if non-imp scoring would change Levin's choice of rebid|pg||
pc|c8|nt|yuval10: on surface it looks like N's double meant to discourage his Partner of carry on|pg||
nt|brolucius: Although if the kibitzers had to pay they would probably be less tolerant of the mistakes that the commentators make.|pg||
nt|dburn: optimistic, that - should South really have both majors stopped and the ace of clubs?|pg||
pc|c9|nt|ritong: well|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: 1st leader change of the set  --  how many more will we see?|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|dburn: still, this lead may let him escape for down only one|pg||
nt|007 joosth: the result is an impossible 3NT in the wrong hand|pg||
pc|d9|nt|vugraphzfe: some question whether the 84-44 carryover is correct|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol no Liz|pg||
nt|brolucius: This is E/W bidding.|pg||
nt|dburn: he won't make it with these cards, but maybe has more chance on the actual borad 3|pg||
nt|dburn: no, this is North-South bidding - they're just not bidding board 2 again|pg||
nt|harmon: theyve crossed rooms|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: we got disconnected sorry|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss:"just to show off"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is 1st of 4 16-board quarters for the Semi-Finals of the Vanderbilt Cup|pg||
nt|ahollan1: short break between sets 1&2  3&4   long break at the half|pg||
nt|ahollan1: actually raise on 3 is more appealling with WEAKER trump|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with strong trump ruffing risk is that declarer might have very weak holding to cover opponent's trump|pg||
nt|ahollan1: remember -- modern game bids 1M with suit of 5432|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in old days the response of 1Major required some suit quality  but  now we be with xxxx  [5432]|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c6|nt|chorush: yes, and a fat 13 imps to Nickell|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|ritong: levin should hold this to down one|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: underbid|pg||
nt|ritong: i won t have time to develop about the transfer sequel|pg||
nt|sybarra: hate to be critical, but perhaps it was "lazy" bidding at other table|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h5|nt|wstuart: No real problems discarding with Katz's hand.  Martel is hoping for a miracle, but it doesn't appear to be a religious holiday for him.|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm told there was webcam yesterday -- if anyone knows about coverage for today -- please send the URL and i'll announce to the room|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Greco shakes his head (behind screen) when @C ruffed|pg||
nt|ritong: 9 and 10 of @d indicate doubleton|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Levin asks about Q lead|pg||
nt|ritong: hampson would play jack from J109|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: promises J or shortness|pg||
nt|ritong: and low at some point from 109x|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|hedyg: A@S?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Even if one of the majors was bare, West might have made an unlucky choice of lead. It was adventurous bidding by N/S that could have worked better.|pg||
nt|dburn: true, and I guess if South had a couple of aces, the unstopped major might well be 4-4 anyway|pg||
nt|brolucius: Good point.|pg||
nt|dburn: downgrade previous comment to "mildly optimisitic"|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|ritong: was worth 4NT imho|pg||
nt|ahollan1: both pairs use Rusinow Leads  [2nd of touching honors]  but only versus NT|pg||
pc|s8|nt|sybarra: agree Henri |pg||
nt|sybarra: something more that 3 nt |pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think Bertens-Bakkeren 1N opener can be half point less at the top -- but still|pg||
nt|sybarra: maybe even 3 @H cue?|pg||
nt|ritong: now, the fact that opener denied interest with 3@d enters the pic|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|pg||
nt|ritong: bertens decided slam was at best on a finesse, likely|pg||
nt|ahollan1: when transfer is any strength, rebid of 3@H/@S usually shows shortness|pg||
pc|cT|pc|d4|nt|hedyg: so he did play the A@S|pg||
pc|c2|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h2|nt|sybarra: cant Berten's make the cue in @H? |pg||
nt|sybarra: (other room)|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ritong: it probably shows a shortness, either in @h or @s,according to agreement|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|harmon: excellent result|pg||
nt|rhelle: Yes, well bid|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s2|nt|ritong: it comes from the fact that stayman was not used|pg||
nt|jstokes: hey frank -- i'm at the airport going home -- what r u up to?|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|passell: they went very low in the other room|pg||
pc|c4|pc|s7|nt|ritong: and thus, responder does not hold a 4M|pg||
nt|ritong: so bobby reads the position correctly and avoids getting tapped|pg||
pc|c3|pc|d8|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c7|pc|hT|pc|cJ|pc|sT|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg||
nt|ritong: or not|pg||
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qx|o3|st||md|1SAT63HQ95D93CQ864,SKJHAJ872DK62CK75,S742HK43DAQT8CAJ2,SQ985HT6DJ754CT93|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|imp_jan: another partscore|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|nt|Vugraphzfc: attitude leads, UDCA, std present count by NS|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg||
nt|imp_jan: martel of course did not fall into the trap\|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|d9|nt|imp_jan: everu trick counts for decl (vul)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|imp_jan: greek gift: club to the king now|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|h7|pg||
pc|sA|pc|h2|nt|imp_jan: probably 3 down|pg||
pc|h3|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
nt|imp_jan: martel shld have continueds in diamonds|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yup|pg||
nt|imp_jan: pd discarded a heart ..|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|c6|pc|dK|pg||
nt|imp_jan: defense mixed up|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|imp_jan: so a push|pg||
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qx|c3|st||md|1SAT63HQ95D93CQ864,SKJHAJ872DK62CK75,S742HK43DAQT8CAJ2,SQ985HT6DJ754CT93|sv|e|nt|vugraphzfe: moss very chatty.  asks whether @CT was suit pref|pg||
nt|ferlema: ok|pg||
nt|wstuart: I would not have opened 1@H, either, unless in the context of a strong @C system.|pg||
nt|passell: 15 and a good 6 card suit seems too much to make a light invitation|pg||
nt|ritong: hi mike welcome|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Every conventional use of a bid has some downside. Stayman, probably the most uniformly played convention of all time, had a big downside on this hand|pg||
nt|ritong: yes we agreed on that point|pg||
nt|passell: hi   this is quite a match|pg||
nt|ritong: sure enough!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H limited by failure to open 1@C  -- and could be 5@H & 5@S|pg||
nt|passell: congrats to the Berg teams great performance througout this event|pg||
nt|passell: they were way to tough for me yesterday|pg||
nt|ahollan1: last set was exactly 100 imps exchanged for net difference of about 6|pg||
nt|sybarra: we just threw the imps in the air|pg||
mb|1N!|an|15-17|nt|sybarra: and they landed....|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|wstuart: So, I tihnk their NT in 3rd seat white is 12-14 (15-17 vul 4rd only).|pg||
nt|ritong: might need an other coffee:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Bertens overcalled 1N rather than Moss' DBL   looks close to me|pg||
pc|s7|nt|wstuart: I'm sure Stansby will upgrade this hand to a 15-17 NT evaluation.|pg||
nt|chorush: you are probably correct Wayne|pg||
nt|ahollan1: historically   that is really 14+ to 17|pg||
nt|ritong: @s 7 comes from three small, when north would not lead from KJ7 here|pg||
nt|ritong: so greco will duck twice|pg||
nt|ritong: keeping his precious 10|pg||
pc|s5|nt|vugraphzfe: kibitzer sits behind brad.  our first as opposed to the mob hovering at the zia-hamman table|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@s = @h, 9+, unbalanced|pg||
pc|s3|nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman, after sitting still for a minute, grabs the pass card off his tray|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1NT = relay|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@c = 4+@c|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|ritong: he had no real reason to get involved here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ok -- i'm sure i would have bid 1N at the table|pg||
nt|ritong: and other potential swing|pg||
nt|passell: sorry i had to miss the last quarter|pg||
nt|ritong: gee|pg||
pc|h2|nt|hedyg: a strong @c?|pg||
nt|dburn: by the look of things|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@d = relay|pg||
nt|sybarra: this may not be a success|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i wonder if DBL by Fred would absolutely deny 4@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on previous board   Diamond-Platnick play a Big Club [very similar to Greco-Hampson version of RM Lite]|pg||
pc|h4|nt|passell: this may actually make |pg||
nt|ahollan1: but he can't really risk hearing @D from partner|pg||
nt|sybarra: actually looking again,  it just might make|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|harmon: another 6c hand|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@s = at least 55 in @h and @c|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2NT = relay|pg||
nt|ritong: how would you proceed?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so they had toy for East to show ALL of   Good Hand [for non-1@C], 6@D, 3@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Diamond in 3@H West|pg||
pc|c4|nt|rhelle: 3@s = eaxctly 3=5=0=3|pg||
nt|passell: will take careful defense|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cJ|nt|007 joosth: a hard job to do|pg||
nt|wstuart: Let me type tihs more accurately**So, I think their NT in 3rd seat white is 12-14 (15-17 vul 3rd only).|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|wstuart: 2@D was GF checkback, I assume.|pg||
nt|chorush: Specs are asking why Stansby would upgrade his hand. the reason is the good 5 card suit mostly|pg||
nt|wstuart: The very fine controls are another reason.|pg||
nt|wstuart: I more true method than the A=4, K=3, Q=2, etc evaluation is to count Aces as 4.5, kings as 3 and Q and J as a little less than the Goren HCP representatoin.|pg||
nt|chorush: There is no obvious eighth trick here much less a ninth, so Meckwell did well to make 2NT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: claim -- let opponents figure it out|pg||
nt|ritong: the @c stack is hidden|pg||
nt|ritong: and south did not lead his singleton|pg||
nt|passell: yes club lead down for sure|pg||
nt|ritong: however, north might switch to a @c in order to open trick(s) before @ds are good|pg||
nt|passell: looks like a trick short|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: lacks a tempo|pg||
nt|sybarra: but a tap in the long trump hand  kills it doesnt it?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thru 53  Nickell 13-0 for the set  now leads Fleisher by 20|pg||
nt|ahollan1: some would say  the only true "precious" card is The Beer Card|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does anyone have the URL that explains details/history of Beer Card?|pg||
pc|cA|nt|rhelle: 3NT is to play|pg||
nt|rhelle: maybe 6NT now?|pg||
nt|harmon: =h-5|pg||
nt|passell: then they have to be careful to play a trump next|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c6|nt|yuval10: time to stop now|pg||
nt|algraves: hello|pg||
nt|brolucius: That lead would have paid off if East held a singleton club.|pg||
nt|rhelle: 17 opposite 16+ ... he won't stop under slam|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@c = 4 controls, 15+|pg||
nt|rhelle: (A=2 controls, K=1)|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|passell: now duck a spade and trump back beats it|pg||
nt|ritong: i don t|pg||
pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: NS convention card from 2010 European Championship is online -- but it won't give you the details Rob is providing|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/netherlands/muller-dewijs.pdf|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c8|nt|rhelle: 4@h shows a @h picture - can't have 3, he would have supported them earlier|pg||
nt|sybarra: now (single dummy) what do you do next with Fred's hand?|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|ritong: pump trumps while keeping a policeman|pg||
nt|passell: down 1 unless heart now|pg||
nt|ritong: that s what he did|pg||
nt|ritong: and de wijs is smelling a trap|pg||
nt|passell: tied up again with 1 down|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm sure it started in some university|pg||
nt|santyclz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_card|pg||
nt|ritong: joe is super aware when things come to having a good drink with good friends|pg||
nt|ahollan1: joe stokes was a tad faster than Joe -- but he sent it to me :)|pg||
pc|hA|nt|yuval10: this seem to have no play at all|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW convention card from 2010 Trials   http://usbf.org/docs/2010usbc/acblcards/GrecoHampson.jpg|pg||
pc|h3|nt|wstuart: Aces and Kings gain power the more distributional the contract hands are, and aces and Kings combined with a 5 card suit for NT is a very big plus.|pg||
nt|rhelle: At first glance this looks as 1 of 2 finesses. 5@c tricks, 2@d, 1@h, 2@s = 10. An extra trick can be developed in @h or @s|pg||
nt|rhelle: so finding trick 12 is what it's all about - before giving away 2|pg||
nt|ritong: oy|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|nt|chorush: well, that got him up to 8|pg||
pc|d4|nt|vugraphzfe: had @H2 out but put it back|pg||
nt|passell: unreal|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is type of hand that shows weakness of double dummy software -- much more interesting when defense can't see the cards|pg||
pc|s4|nt|wstuart: Specs ask if a 1NT rebid could conceal 1 or 2 4 card majors the way Martel-Stansby are playing, and I believe the answer is yes, they tend to rebid 1NT to show the Strong NT when ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: possible.|pg||
pc|s8|nt|rhelle: this trick will not be what South was waiting for|pg||
nt|rhelle: Chances are that the @sQ is with West now - he can see 6@h and 2@c in East already|pg||
nt|harmon: needs more than that|pg||
nt|rhelle: So he needs a double squeeze - @s@d against West, @h@d against East. But he has no @d entry ...|pg||
nt|rhelle: Not enough entries to ruff the @ds high either|pg||
nt|rhelle: Looks like he'll need the double @s finesse against West|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sK|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|vugraphzfe: fred: "don't worry about it"|pg||
pc|h8|nt|harmon: no good either entriey prob|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Diamond will also open 1N  [14-16]|pg||
pc|s2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d9|nt|rhelle: not now, for sure|pg||
pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: good read/discards from Steve Weinstein to minimize damage|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg||
nt|chorush: this looks like 5 imps to Nickell and a tied match|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
mc|5|nt|yuval10: seem like the only possible line is to find an opp with KQ doubleton @c, or KX @c and catch him off guard for an endplay|pg||
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qx|o4|st||md|2SJ643H732DAQ2CJ84,SAQ9875HAT86DK97C,ST2HQJ95DJ65CKQ62,SKHK4DT843CAT9753|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfc: no words exchanged by N-S - nice polite atmosphere here|pg||
mb|1S|nt|imp_jan: mis fit|pg||
mb|p|nt|imp_jan: prob 1n semi f|pg||
mb|1N!|an|semi-forcing|nt|imp_jan: and what to bid as east over 2@H|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: but west solved this dilemma rebidding 2@S|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|Vugraphzfc: still UDCA ;)|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|d7|pc|c6|pg||
nt|imp_jan: looks like relatively easy job for decl|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|sK|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg||
nt|imp_jan: ruffing with @SK does not cost a trumjp trick|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s5|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|c5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|c7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s9|mc|10|pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2SJ643H732DAQ2CJ84,SAQ9875HAT86DK97C,ST2HQJ95DJ65CKQ62,SKHK4DT843CAT9753|sv|b|nt|ritong: 13 comparisons left|pg||
nt|hedyg: Liz is catching up|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry we lost our connection|pg||
nt|passell: hard to imagine a layout that a trump back wasnt best |pg||
mb|1S|nt|hedyg: of course when she got disconnected the players went on|pg||
nt|ritong: painful hand for the orange guys|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: time to get one or two solid shots for israeli pair|pg||
nt|chorush: These two teams have a lot of history in the past 2 years, mostly in the US Team Trials|pg||
mb|1N|an|F|nt|ritong: hi yuv hi all|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@h?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N Forcing|pg||
mb|p|nt|passell: moss gittleman are awesome with the momentum there way|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, brad adores to keep pressure on opps|pg||
nt|ritong: which explains a lot of his creations|pg||
mb|2H|nt|brolucius: Losing the connection is hardly your fault, Liz, unless you were unlucky where you spilt your coffee.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: last set we saw EW use  jumps to show mixed raise|pg||
nt|ritong: i mean, we all like to keep their heads under the water, of course|pg||
mb|2N|nt|yuval10: salut Henri|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann makes a fist to show that 2@H is strong.  gitelman gently passes|pg||
nt|wstuart: Not looking good for 4@S here, though it is a fine contract.|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: if Lew finesses he can make, but I doubt he will do that.|pg||
nt|wstuart: Maybe however.|pg||
nt|wstuart: Interesting choice here at T1|pg||
nt|wstuart: Nvm|pg||
nt|chorush: he is going to make 11 tricks whether he finesses or not, in my opinion|pg||
nt|wstuart: @H lead gives it away|pg||
nt|wstuart: I was looking at the play before I saw the @H lead.|pg||
mb|3C!|an|relay|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: :)|pg||
nt|ritong: but brad has a particular talent for that|pg||
mb|3D|an|forced|nt|ahollan1: interesting   i wonder if 2N was forcing  |pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: question of whether this goes down quickly or slowly, I guess|pg||
nt|chorush: Only way to have beaten this contract is with a club lead and a diamond ruff|pg||
mb|3S|an|6!S-4!H|nt|ritong: 2NT artif prolly any gf hand with no suitable rebid|pg||
nt|yuval10: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: a kind of gazzilli, just upscaled|pg||
nt|bg: letssee|pg||
nt|ritong: you think he should act?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: just the manner, softly placing the card on the tray|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar: not the worst|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: then asks who wants water; moss accepts|pg||
nt|rhelle: NS play reverse count and attitude - so the 4 is from an even number|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nope  just some tool for Weinstein to complete shape|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|dburn: a club lead would mean quickly, this means slowly - assuming the defense does nothing silly|pg||
nt|wstuart: Doesn't 3 rds of @C beat it too, Ira?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: so far eldad has shown a strong 2 in @hs with questionable suit quality|pg||
nt|yuval10: double-dummy 6@h looks quite fair, but not today|pg||
nt|ritong: 2NT is a kind of puppet, asking opener to come back to his opening suit|pg||
nt|ritong: unless ha has real good news|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: be nice to tavel tod but that has dangers|pg||
nt|harmon: we know its safe but......|pg||
nt|harmon: travel to a diamond|pg||
nt|harmon: I type like doo doo|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C mechanism to show weak 6-4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so sorry   3@C to show GAME FORCE 6-4|pg||
nt|drewsky: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: it seems that a top @c lead would be bad|pg||
nt|ritong: hiya drew|pg||
nt|drewsky: a direct 3@H or 3@S would have been 5-5 and 6-4 respectiuvely, and Non forcing|pg||
nt|drewsky: relay to major 5-5 and 6-4 forcing|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pull up a chair, and relax, this is going to be a long session|pg||
nt|ahollan1:  3  other room also 1N -200|pg||
pc|cK|nt|Jacki: did you use our payment screens?  b/c your deposit didn't go through.  The error message usually means a wrong card type (it's a drop down menu) or a wrong CVV number|pg||
nt|ritong: hmm|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Diamond stops in 2@S after  Platnick Semi-Force 1N|pg||
nt|ritong: weinstein has few options at that point|pg||
nt|ahollan1: interesting that Diamond did NOT show @H|pg||
nt|drewsky: A trump lead probably would have defeated this contract for sure.|pg||
nt|ritong: ya drew|pg||
nt|ritong: hampson considered his lead for a long time|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with @H strength trump sure seems like 1st or 2nd choice|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Weinstein "sorry"|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Levin pacing in empty room|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|ritong: they did not want to try the coup three in a row  remained possible, though|pg||
nt|ritong: in this context, 3@c instead of 2NT would be forcing|pg||
nt|ritong: here, pachtmann had relatively good news|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman seems always in control, never on tilt, never in a hurry|pg||
nt|ritong: moss cares about the excited part|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|hK|nt|chorush: Eventually, declarer will lead a diamond toward the dummy and on the showout, will take 3 diamond tricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other match   Grue off to quick 25-0 lead after 3 boards|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|nt|ritong: with talent|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|hedyg: he ruffed the queen? really?|pg||
nt|harmon: 6c hand was played from otherside and got a spade into the KJ made it easier I think|pg||
pc|h4|nt|wstuart: but still would lsoe 2@C, 1D and 1S?|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
nt|rhelle: that made it cold|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|sK|nt|ritong: so, north had relatively good news, but not enough to make a move|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman gesturing like he's counting something out|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|drewsky: Most would say that these 2 teams are BOTH considered 2 of the top 3 or 4 teams in the United States, so they BOTH want to beat the other so badly that they will take a long time ...|pg||
nt|drewsky: to complete this match.|pg||
pc|dT|nt|chorush: no diamond will be lost; delarer will pitch his two losing diamonds on the AK of hearts|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if memory serves  this is rematch of finals from 2010 Team Trials AND 2010 Spingold|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|nt|bg: these club discards are risky if W swithches now it is not safe to set up hearts|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is the Rubber Match|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|wstuart: ah, of course.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: speaking of good front runners   Nickell now 20-0 for the set  leads Fleisher by 27|pg||
nt|ahollan1: show of hands -- how many don't know the term "rubber match"?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: In Rubber Bridge   [before 4-deal/Chicago]   2 games out of 3 won a Rubber|pg||
nt|ritong: surprising move by greco anyway|pg||
nt|drewsky: For many many years, the Nick Nickell team was always considered the 'chalk' in the national knockout events. Lately both the Diamond team and the Fleisher team have been added to ...|pg||
nt|drewsky: that 'chalk'|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so if 1 win each   the 3rd match is the Rubber Match|pg||
nt|ritong: declarer is known 6430, not sure how @d A can be good|pg||
nt|drewsky: 10 imps to Fleisher here....|pg||
nt|ritong: perhaps KJx with him and two trump tricks?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: after 4 hands, table is at least 12 minutes behind clock|pg||
pc|s3|nt|ritong: i bet brad will try some joke about that at the table  he s facetious|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|bg: should diccarded dia|pg||
nt|yuval10: he has 9 tricks though, 3@s, 3@d, 2@h and 1 @c|pg||
nt|bg: dis|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|c5|pc|s4|pg||
mc|10|nt|ritong: but declarer showed a GF hand|pg||
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qx|o5|st||md|3SQJT975H95DJ53CQ7,SA62H743DKQ976C84,S8HAKQJT82D42CT62,SK43H6DAT8CAKJ953|sv|n|mb|4H!|mb|d|nt|imp_jan: makes sense for west to pass|pg||
mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: surprised he bids|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s8|nt|imp_jan: still, 12 tricks available in diamonds|pg||
nt|imp_jan: wow Levin-Weinsten bid and made 4@S on br 4!|pg||
nt|imp_jan: declarer does not know about the fav distr|pg||
nt|imp_jan: thats why he is thinking over all variations |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yeah, Diamond gives a little look at Martel|pg||
nt|imp_jan: well a big look seems imposs at the little man|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: diamond:  "i'm sorry" ... for the time he's taking, director already in here once shaking his head|pg||
nt|imp_jan: closed room had an interesting auction|pg||
nt|imp_jan: north opened a gambling 3n on his solid sevenbagger|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: you can see auction in other room by hovering over their result when it shows|pg||
nt|imp_jan: and east - bobby levin - overcalled 4@C|pg||
nt|imp_jan: not everybody's choice i wld say|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: head in hands...|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg||
nt|imp_jan: ok play resumes|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
nt|imp_jan: decl played trump to the ace, catering 5-0 split|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|hT|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cK|nt|imp_jan: ok a push in the end|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3SQJT975H95DJ53CQ7,SA62H743DKQ976C84,S8HAKQJT82D42CT62,SK43H6DAT8CAKJ953|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: i spy on the other match [and our other room] via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
nt|ahollan1: one window per table|pg||
nt|ritong: two trump tricks with that J643 holding are really unlikely|pg||
nt|ritong: well next|pg||
mb|3N!|an|solid 7 card suit|nt|hedyg: Liz is going to have a tough time if they play and claim so quickly|pg||
nt|chorush: Very friendly diamond layout for this slam, presuming it is reached|pg||
nt|chorush: I don't know their methods assuming there are methods for hands like these|pg||
nt|drewsky: Open 3@H or 4@H at these colors ? I would open 3@H, but I am conservative|pg||
mb|4C|nt|wstuart: True, though it doesn't really require a friendly layout to make.|pg||
nt|Jacki: Live streaming available here:   www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion  If anyone knows the names of the players at the table, share with us|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think Kantar created the convention where 3N showed solid MAJOR|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: this one looks routine|pg||
nt|ritong: other room EW got offboard due to the systemic 2@c opening|pg||
nt|ritong: showing the equivalent of a very good weak 2 in @cs|pg||
nt|ritong: if you wonder how they treat very strong hands, big @c is the answer|pg||
nt|ritong: any 16+ hand is opened 1@c|pg||
nt|wstuart: There is a school of thought that one shouldn't Michaels with a 6 card Maj, however, I don't know if much analysis has been done on 7-5 bidding.  :)|pg||
nt|jillan:  looks liek Robert Levin|pg||
nt|sybarra: open a browser for each room you want to see|pg||
nt|ritong: moss will probably bid 4@s directly|pg||
nt|ritong: to me it is a textbook 3@h at unfav  but i am VERY conservative reg preempts|pg||
nt|jaapfr: half of the scoreboard keeps reading as a beercard since you started to talk about the beercard @D7|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|nt|brolucius: The East hand is worth an extra point, with those controls and the five-card spades.|pg||
nt|brolucius: On the convention card that I am looking at, 2NT shows only 20-21. That's puzzling.|pg||
nt|dburn: Cheek may well lead a heart, which will work rather well for him|pg||
nt|hedyg: except the @s suit is not nice and stiff AK not great for NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: so he downgraded?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Top players rarely downgrade.|pg||
nt|ritong: after the raise, that is|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Mind you, they don't miscount very often either.|pg||
nt|hedyg: i have 20-21(22) may have a 5 card major|pg||
nt|wstuart: As you can see from the 3@S bid - Martel is a very aggressive player, which is why I was surprised when he downgraded a control righ 15 HCP to a 12-14 NT.|pg||
mb|p|nt|jillan:  and can't miss Meckstroth....|pg||
nt|robbg:  Weinstein (r) meck (l) with backs to us|pg||
nt|chorush: I would think Katz would close the bidding with 6 hearts here, unless he thinks he has a good way to get to 7 if it is there|pg||
nt|robbg:  Levin facing|pg||
nt|rhelle: systematically, NS have to open 1@h with 55 majors|pg||
pc|h9|nt|dburn: a diamond wn't work so well|pg||
nt|algraves: hello everyone|pg||
pc|h3|nt|hedyg: 2@d is 18-19(20)|pg||
nt|dburn: in fact, it may not work at all|pg||
nt|dburn: though declarer will still have to guess the play extremely well|pg||
nt|wstuart: 4@S is a control bid in @S showing a good hand and making a slam try in @Hs.|pg||
nt|wstuart: 4NT is likely RKC|pg||
nt|wstuart: Katz will likely jump showing the number of keycards and a void.|pg||
nt|chorush: They will have a way to show a void but Katz cannot be sure the void is not opposite an ace, as it happens to be here|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h6|pg||
nt|jillan:  3 aces and a spade void|pg||
nt|sybarra: easy bid   |pg||
nt|ritong: experts hate leads from xxx|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW auction would have been interesting after 4@H opening|pg||
pc|s8|nt|yuval10: 9 easy tricks from top|pg||
nt|ritong: brad is visibly sitting on the benefits|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry, got knocked off the internet but didn't miss any of the bridge|pg||
nt|sybarra: pard promises 4 @s and opener|pg||
nt|ritong: i think they can raise on 3 now and then|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @H2 is ATTITUDE|pg||
pc|sK|nt|algraves: seems normal|pg||
nt|wstuart: (RKC = Roman Keycard Blackwood) where there are 5 controls -  the 4 aces and the trump K.|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "that's too fast", takes time to study dummy|pg||
nt|ritong: just trying to avoid big swings|pg||
nt|ritong: if he was not doing that, he would certainly raise @ds|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss wrote: if you bid 1NT, X would be takeout. haven't discussed here|pg||
nt|ritong: which were freely bid by his pard|pg||
nt|hedyg: so now he knows no @D in N|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|harmon: 4d could be beaten2 so this is better|pg||
nt|rhelle: it bites them here ... 4@h or 4@s looks solid|pg||
nt|harmon: they play canape??|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i played those a lot in the 70s/80s  and to be honest  i have no idea how/why they work|pg||
nt|ahollan1: duh  soo sorry vs suit 3rd/5th|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ritong: a @c now and...|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|hedyg: why @c rather than @H?|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ritong: oy|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|rhelle: no, just to keep the relays symmetrical - it's an exception|pg||
pc|cA|nt|bg: some may try to run club 8 now but not at imps risk of losing 4 dia tricks|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he probably knew that anyway - he would not expect Cheek to lead from @dAQ108 only against 2NT - all pass|pg||
nt|ahollan1: how so you say that in French Henri?|pg||
nt|ritong: oy²|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hehe|pg||
nt|sybarra: nice H @H|pg||
nt|passell: great lead ace and a diamond for sure he would go down|pg||
nt|ritong: he s not home and dry, but indeed would have been tougher|pg||
nt|passell: may still make on a dbl squeeze  but great guessing involved|pg||
nt|passell: he will probably play to ruff in queen of diamonds  then guess the end position|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other than  it works   was there any reason Muller could find @C shift|pg||
nt|ritong: i don t think moss can afford to check if @h was an underlead or not|pg||
nt|ritong: so many winning other solutions|pg||
nt|passell: club shift would be bad he would be forced to guess the dia|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in other room the opening lead was @D    then @C10 shift|pg||
nt|sybarra: but is club shift, with 106xx |pg||
nt|sybarra: you just dont have a club spot in the S hand|pg||
nt|passell: maybe he will guess it anyway since a low dia wasnt shifted to  he might have without the queen|pg||
nt|passell: a truly great hand of cat and mouse|pg||
nt|ahollan1: cool inference Mike|pg||
nt|sybarra: agree MIke,  can be making, -1, making, +1 etc |pg||
nt|sybarra: ok +1 optimistic|pg||
nt|ritong: somehow|pg||
nt|ahollan1: unlike previous board which was different set of animals|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg||
nt|harmon: oh ok|pg||
mc|12|nt|ahollan1: Stansby DID open 4@H - DBL - P - 5@D end|pg||
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qx|o6|st||md|4SAK872HA72DT983C5,S654HJT95D5CAJT83,SQ3H3DAKQJ7CKQ762,SJT9HKQ864D642C94|sv|e|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: 6@D fore ns|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: how to bid that?|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: easy start|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: well north is in a good position (@SQ is an asset after the opening bid)|pg||
mb|4H!|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: 4@H splinter i guess|pg||
mb|5C|mb|d|nt|imp_jan: kick back according to Bocchi|pg||
nt|imp_jan: ánd others|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: hm|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
nt|imp_jan: not sure yet, but slam missed, not by hampson-greco in cr|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SAK872HA72DT983C5,S654HJT95D5CAJT83,SQ3H3DAKQJ7CKQ762,SJT9HKQ864D642C94|sv|e|nt|brolucius: They did well to go plus on those E/W cards. |pg||
nt|jillan:  Nick bid hearts first so he should be playing right|pg||
nt|wstuart: Right - Nickell was playing it.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: east took a short break|pg||
nt|wstuart: 6@D will make on this deal, but it is an odds-off contract.|pg||
nt|jillan:  can't they make 6@D here as the cards break|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: all players are back now|pg||
nt|chorush: This hand should be played in the very good 5 diamonds. 3NT undeservedly gains 2 imps so justice not served|pg||
nt|ritong: ?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: huh?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry I played the wrong card brad played the squeeze|pg||
nt|sybarra: he guessed it?   |pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: east tried a 1NT overcall in other room i d be surprised to see gitelman duplicate this|pg||
nt|rhelle: yes, they are surging ahead now|pg||
mb|1S|nt|wstuart: aside from being off the @SA, 6@D requires both the @H finesse and 2-1 @D which will fail 22% of the time.|pg||
nt|ritong: okay  do you confirm the score operator?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: he made 4|pg||
nt|ritong: ok ty|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: but I had him in the dummy when he was in hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: assuming 1@s is the response here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@s does not include 5@S & 5@H|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: he made 4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other match  push at 5@D +1|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S limited by failure to open Precision 1@C|pg||
mb|2D|nt|jillan:  I know the percentage BUT you can't argue with the layout|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Sadam Hussein would describe this as the mother of all misfits.|pg||
nt|dburn: North-South will do well to go plus on these|pg||
nt|passell: well guessed when he ruffed the diamond north was squeezed|pg||
mb|3C!|an|5!S-4+!D-!C shortness|nt|007 joosth: what about the 1NT rebid?|pg||
nt|chorush: Most players will not rebid a 5 card minor nor reverse with such skimpy values, so 1NT is chosen as the alternative|pg||
mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 2 amazing hands in a row for declarer |pg||
nt|ahollan1: that sure is a space-saving agreement|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D is 100% game force|pg||
nt|ritong: basically, KQxxx facing the singleton are not awesome, although opener must have goodies onside to offer this " minisplinter"|pg||
mb|3D|nt|harmon: when they restarted Geoff shda passed:)|pg||
nt|ritong: with four small trumps|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: a nightmare to play|pg||
nt|brolucius: Was 3@D available?|pg||
nt|dburn: better not bid any more, or he may have a doubled nightmare to play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: my bet    2@C transfer to @D|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: it was alerted but no one gave any info|pg||
nt|ritong: possibly more|pg||
mb|3S!|nt|algraves: will Lauria double if Cheek bids again?|pg||
nt|hedyg: if 2@s showed 6-5...|pg||
nt|ritong: this might get bloody|pg||
nt|passell: escaped the ouble  fred knows he is doing well  not chancing an accident|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: EW in trouble now|pg||
nt|ritong: at 50 a piece, though|pg||
nt|ritong: so hampson should get highly interested|pg||
mb|4H!|nt|chorush: 50 years ago it would  have been universal to open East's hand 1 heart and rebid 2 diamonds|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: no could have been only 4 spades|pg||
nt|brolucius: I don't agree that it should show 5-6 (on the basis that North has denied four spades). That is a reasonable auction to describe a strong 4-6 hand. |pg||
nt|sybarra: N  has the hands my pards usually have :(|pg||
mb|5C!|nt|ritong: this contract has a lot of play|pg||
nt|yuval10: 4@h looks makeable, so Schwartz team likely gets some imps back|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman studying the trick before turning it|pg||
nt|ritong: trump looks clear|pg||
nt|hedyg: then why bid 3@H?|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: no trumps etc|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: alot of pointing alerts with no written explanations|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@H Key Card ask for @D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 5@C=2 without Q|pg||
mb|6D|nt|ritong: 7|pg||
nt|chorush: Katz' 3H bid here is announcing some black suit worry|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: brad has doubled, and not with a trump stack|pg||
nt|ritong: so he has values, including @h control|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann lowers screen, asks about carding, gitelman answers UDCA|pg||
nt|dburn: he doesn't have a bad hand for hearts, or so he hopes - that @sJ would be a working card, and he has an ace|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|wstuart: The question was posed that if EW knew both hands, why would they not bid 6@D (not knowing the NS layout).|pg||
nt|rhelle: lead: either a small trump or the @dK|pg||
nt|harmon: prob d3 uless defense slips|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|algraves: down 2 or 3 it seems|pg||
nt|dburn: meanwhile, 3@d is pretty much bound to be hopeless unless partner miraculously has two of them|pg||
nt|brolucius: No reason whatsoever for Lauria to double, as I see it. |pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ritong: ron tried a small @h to his stiff jack, but unfortunately moss was aware about that card|pg||
nt|jillan:  because it is a poor slam|pg||
nt|chorush: mainly because it is about a 41% contract|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|jillan:  it has ONE virtue - it makes|pg||
nt|harmon: need to start spades for 5th trick|pg||
nt|rhelle: I'd start with @h ...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Martel-Stansby seem to be on their way to slam too|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|nt|ritong: no clear reason to give up on trump attack|pg||
nt|hedyg: Lauria said he miscounted last hand, thought he had 21|pg||
pc|c2|nt|sybarra: so do we have a guess re 2 @C?|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|brolucius: Did he really, though, or was that just to annoy N/S?|pg||
nt|ritong: naturally, when opps go down a bunch, the first reaction should be " hey, did we have something to play" instead of " har har har  suckers"|pg||
pc|h5|pc|dJ|nt|bg: Fred may regret tossing Dia|pg||
nt|bg: now if S ruffs a dia he cannot get off dummy without E playng another dia but he can discarf a club now Fred doent have anther dia|pg||
nt|ritong: far sighted, bruce|pg||
nt|yuval10: other room has already played twice as many boards as played here|pg||
nt|bg: if he ruffs a club now he has to finesse the dia|pg||
nt|sybarra: trans. to @D?|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pg||
nt|wstuart: To expand on my answer from above, the @H finesse is 50% and 3-0 @D is 22%, so the slam will fail 61% of the time (0.5 * 0.22).|pg||
pc|c6|nt|chorush: Commendable bidding from EW will cost them 1 imp|pg||
pc|c9|nt|hedyg: well it is what he said|pg||
nt|brolucius: You are at the table-side?|pg||
pc|dT|nt|ritong: gling|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nope  5@D Stansby|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1S876HQ732DQ542C32,SAK2HTDJ7CKQJ9764,SJ9HK9854DAKT96CA,SQT543HAJ6D83CT85|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|imp_jan: suppose the score is wrong, 12 tricks made|pg||
mb|2H|mb|3C|nt|imp_jan: corrected now|pg||
nt|imp_jan: precision 2@C|pg||
nt|imp_jan: does south has a bid|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: JD thinking again...|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|nt|imp_jan: 4@D?|pg||
mb|4D|nt|imp_jan: yep|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|nt|imp_jan: so 4@H still  be reached|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: if u decl guesses hearts..|pg||
pc|c5|nt|imp_jan: we will see|pg||
nt|imp_jan: he has to beginh with @HK|pg||
pc|c2|nt|imp_jan: or corss to dummy in diamonds|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|imp_jan: almost 4@S btw :)|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg||
nt|imp_jan: well done!|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sA|nt|imp_jan: looks like Lew is right on track|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|h5|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|c4|pg||
nt|imp_jan: excellent|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|mc|10|pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1S876HQ732DQ542C32,SAK2HTDJ7CKQJ9764,SJ9HK9854DAKT96CA,SQT543HAJ6D83CT85|sv|b|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: should have bid 5@S, you'd have bid 6|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: low heart might still pick off Tx or Txx with Gitelman|pg||
nt|dburn: looks like a Roland grand slam|pg||
nt|algraves: hmm|pg||
nt|hedyg: system summary for NS: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=577&pid=155|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: unable to record play due to the fact that I got disconnected|pg||
nt|rhelle: very swingy match so far |pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: new leader  only 58 boards remaining|pg||
mb|1C|nt|algraves: Lauria played too quickly there as it was clear to not play a third spade|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Hampson's 1@C opener was 16+|pg||
mb|2N|an|reds|nt|ritong: they prolly have a tool to show 5@s 4@h limit|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: they are joking that it might go all pass at othe table|pg||
nt|dburn: but 6@s is pretty good - not straightforward to bid|pg||
nt|brolucius: Looks good for a splinter bid.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: result is accurate|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: that too|pg||
nt|wstuart: Since the IMP returns are +11 IMPs for 920 vs 420 and -10 IMPs for -50 vs -400, the slam needs to be an 11:21 favorite in order to break even, wihch is 52%|pg||
nt|ritong: by the way, 3NT was hard to defeat on previous|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D=9-11  game force|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ritong: here we go|pg||
nt|bg: yes 2h =5spades 4 hearts|pg||
nt|chorush: That's true, Wayne, when you compare it with 5 of a minor but not when 3NT is an alternative|pg||
nt|harmon: sometimes opening light gets you, this was one of em|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Greco probably surprised how quickly his drek improved|pg||
mb|5C|nt|ahollan1: sorry BAL 9-11|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Diamond will open 2@C  that will really change tone of auction in other room|pg||
nt|ritong: we often observe that, but again, see how experts are reluctant with stiff aces|pg||
nt|ritong: stiff ace is "total control" of the suit, but in reality it is an inactive card|pg||
mb|5H|nt|yuval10: West in the OR chose 1NT after South decided to open 1@d|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well my copy of convention card also says 1@C=16+|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: possible 11 tricks  let s see|pg||
nt|marinesa: many pairs play 2h is 5s,4h 0-9 and 2s is 5s,4h and 10-11 something in this range|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow  Stansby  buys 4@H south  after  2@C-2@H-3@C-P//4@C-4@D-P-4@H//end|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry 4@H North|pg||
nt|ritong: here, i guess hampson, with small singleton in @c and @s Ax would have passed, offering pard to go on|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: long ause by each player at every opportunity|pg||
nt|ahollan1: good time to mention -- even if you lead Ace from AK -- at 5 level and higher that should switch back to King from AK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the idea is you need to know whether or not to cash out   and  higher chance that you'll want to lead unsupported Ace|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so Ace gets attitude   and King gets count|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Greco-Levin (screenmates) talking inaudibly|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hope this hasn't been discussed already ....|pg||
nt|ritong: inactive card means it will be unuseful to develop tricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: I think NS play Rodwell's  Inversion   where  others play DBL in Forcing Pass situations as "don't bid"  i think this DBL says the opposite -- i'm ok with you bidding more|pg||
nt|ritong: my point is, for intermediate/advanced player, it is awesome to hold stiff ace in opponent s suit|pg||
nt|ritong: it is not bad, of course, but not as great as one might think|pg||
nt|ahollan1: singleton Ace overrated in a lot of situations|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or   since this is probably NOT a Forcing Pass situation   DBL may just say "extras"|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: looks like 1 off, another 11 IMP swing|pg||
nt|rhelle: maybe -2, actually|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks Michael|pg||
mb|p!|nt|ahollan1: if they've increased min for 1@C, maybe they've reduced min for 2@D|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Hampson-Levin discussing soory|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Levin head in hands shking it|pg||
pc|sK|nt|marinesa: especially precision pairs|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@D shows a mixed raise.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: on the previous hand that is|pg||
nt|algraves: a lot of work to do in slam , KX spades is very favourable of course|pg||
nt|hedyg: a joke it is for sure|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am told: any shortness, 3@H ask and 3@S= singleton @C|pg||
nt|dburn: to say nothing of 4-3 diamonds with the king right, and the heart finesse on should North lead the suit|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not that this method appears on their card.|pg||
pc|s9|nt|ritong: 6@c demands several good news|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pg||
nt|ritong: but..|pg||
pc|sA|nt|ritong: the @h 9 had for purpose to diagnose if south has a stiff honor|pg||
nt|ritong: noone would cover with Hx(x)|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: if 3@S was shortness   North hand has gotten much worse|pg||
nt|ritong: of course i am not aware about tarzan's subtleties|pg||
pc|s4|nt|wstuart: very true, Ira|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|ritong: however, it seems that 3@h should come from Hx rather than xx|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we had a system expert doing commentary last set - but it is very late where he is now  [poland]|pg||
nt|ritong: just my (uninformed) two cents|pg||
nt|ritong: no problem|pg||
nt|ritong: ah|pg||
nt|ritong: why tarzan?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@H could also have been just shape showing|pg||
nt|ritong: well|pg||
nt|ritong: weiss/muller|pg||
pc|cK|nt|yuval10: have to go now, enjoy the rest of the match|pg||
nt|yuval10: bye|pg||
nt|ritong: ciao|pg||
nt|ritong: brad is not the only facetious one around this table, seems|pg||
nt|brolucius: Well bid, anyway. They are over the first hurdle of a two-hurdle-race.|pg||
nt|algraves: so all reasonable lines of play will work it seems|pg||
nt|robbg:  anyway that is backwards, if those were the only 2 possible results the needed odds would be 10/21|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with 3@C a relay rather than showing @C|pg||
pc|cA|nt|hedyg: 3@D= fit and a singleton. 3@H asking etc|pg||
nt|sybarra: weiss/muller, sounds like wiesmuiler who played tarzar in 1930's (also champion swimmer)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thru 58  Nickell over Fleisher by a mere 4 imps|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nickell original  2 seed    Fleisher  7|pg||
nt|ritong: til now, we had few opportunities to observe it, but muller is a rreal tough guy, especially in the opening lead compartiment|pg||
nt|sybarra: Johnny Weissmuller....correct spelling |pg||
nt|ahollan1: Diamond  3 seed and Berg has risen from  22|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred asked about 3H and brad asked about 3D but I didn't get conclusive answers|pg||
pc|hK|nt|hedyg: a limited hand, no more than 4-5 controls|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is reassuring when he takes so long to work out the best plan. Makes you want to give up the game when they pick up 12 tricks without pausing for breath.|pg||
nt|dburn: this is not easy|pg||
nt|algraves: lol, very complicated if you are trying to make with spades 3-1 as you would like to ruff 3 clubs in dummy|pg||
nt|dburn: he may start @cA, club ruff, @dQ intending to pitch a heart|pg||
nt|dburn: or, I suppose, he may just take the heart finesse|pg||
nt|dburn: don't see any other serious runners, but far from clear which of those two is favourite|pg||
nt|harmon: I think he needs the ht finesse, but I let better analysts decide|pg||
nt|algraves: yes he may be thinking of heart finesse and then if that works to finesse club with fall back on 2-2 spades with king on side|pg||
nt|brolucius: East did choose the splinter bid art the other table and, as you see, they have netted 1430 at the other table. If you put your cursor over the result, you can see the auction.|pg||
nt|algraves: first really big hand of the match as slam may not be bid in other room|pg||
nt|algraves: oh i see|pg||
nt|algraves: that is a great feature|pg||
nt|brolucius: A trump lead made it a bit easier.|pg||
nt|harmon: Fleischer leading Nickell 20-0 after 6|pg||
pc|hA|nt|vugraphzfe: and did not see what went under SK|pg||
nt|chorush: that's true, and not known by most players|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h6|nt|harmon: Hey if Alfredo agrees with me I cant be tooo wrong|pg||
nt|brolucius: He didn't agree with you very quickly...|pg||
nt|harmon: as long as he did lol|pg||
nt|brolucius: We will see if he agrees with Allan by finessing in clubs next!|pg||
nt|rhelle: defence needs to be careful not to be thrown in|pg||
nt|ahollan1: delay was NOT all player  --  i'm told connection played a role too|pg||
nt|ritong: 1 imp at stake here|pg||
nt|ralfwil: at 3 years of age, chickenpox is not so bad as at 10 years of age|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Greco thinking, all other players have left the room!|pg||
nt|ritong: nervous atmosphere|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: just me and Greco, kinda eerie|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|algraves: lol, easy when you see all the cards|pg||
nt|harmon: Q of d my prediction|pg||
nt|ritong: so 13 it is|pg||
nt|ahollan1: would Weinstein bid 5@C without shortness somewhere??|pg||
mc|9|nt|ahollan1: you probably know him as Olympic Swimmer|pg||
nt|ritong: ya sure|pg||
nt|ahollan1: :)|pg||
nt|ritong: tarzan is just a comics hero:)|pg||
nt|sybarra: but he played Tarzan in movies |pg||
nt|sybarra: (black and white movies btw)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: actually  Weissmuller did win a number of gold medals before becoming hollywood's tarzan|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in case we forgot --- nice stop in 4@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nickell lead no just 2    5 boards to play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now|pg||
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qx|o8|st||md|2SAKJ3HQDAQT32CKQ5,SQ52HJT76D974CAT8,S874H9854DJ65CJ43,ST96HAK32DK8C9762|sv|o|nt|imp_jan: so the 4@C bid pushed them into game and was very revealing!|pg||
nt|imp_jan: partscore here again|pg||
mb|p|nt|rodal f: Hi Jan specs and the best man, vug operator.|pg||
nt|imp_jan: it is a she :) but wc|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|rodal f: Sr.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yes, "it" is a she |pg||
nt|imp_jan: wow did east open with 1@D?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: hi rodal|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|rodal f: Hi Patty:)|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|imp_jan: prob 1@S by north|pg||
mb|2H|nt|imp_jan: 3@D or 3@H by south?|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: 4@S why not|pg||
nt|rodal f: Could become a nice 4@S, but...|pg||
pc|hK|nt|rodal f: Waited partscore.|pg||
nt|imp_jan: if they press in hearts|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
nt|imp_jan: decl cant make it |pg||
pc|s6|nt|imp_jan: @H6 might be sp for clubs (std with shortness in dummy), moreover ew dont know about north havihg 3 trumps only|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|cK|nt|rodal f: Moisent needed Q@S at hook. But some help came.|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg||
nt|imp_jan: good duck|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|imp_jan: imposs to make|pg||
nt|rodal f: Sstill a kill at @H.|pg||
nt|rodal f: Still*|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
nt|imp_jan: okay, another duck|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg||
nt|rodal f: For info: http://www.acbl.org/nabc/index.php?a=2011&b=Spring&c=daily_bulletins|pg||
nt|imp_jan: decl puts his hopes at the spade finesse|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|imp_jan: hampson-greco were pushed to the 5level on the previosu brd|pg||
nt|rodal f: Bang and....|pg||
nt|imp_jan: losing 13 imps|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hA|nt|imp_jan: stevie weinstein bid all the way to 5@C on his own|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|imp_jan: previous brd|pg||
pc|c9|pc|dT|pc|hT|pc|s8|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SAKJ3HQDAQT32CKQ5,SQ52HJT76D974CAT8,S874H9854DJ65CJ43,ST96HAK32DK8C9762|sv|o|nt|ritong: nice slam|pg||
nt|ritong: notice greco's 2@c|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: arguing the score now|pg||
nt|ritong: starting with 1@s might be less efficient|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss thought there were only 7 tricks|pg||
nt|algraves: Versace has very good feel at the table|pg||
nt|sybarra: I think Fred was in the tank|pg||
nt|ritong: looks normal to reach 3NT with these two hands|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: possible correction on board 38|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: due to dispute|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry everyone -- i don't know if there is webcam this set|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|chorush: 5 clubs within a hair of making here|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: west claims he played the hand due to wrong information|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@s = 9+, 4+@h, unbalanced|pg||
nt|passell: yes seems very likely|pg||
nt|ritong: strong @c for NS|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal  18+ bal|pg||
mb|1C!|an|strong|nt|algraves: NS can remind themselves that slam is natural to bid and almost every line makes|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: will eldad suggest slam?|pg||
nt|harmon: 6c here not the worst contract ive ever seen|pg||
nt|dburn: been in worse slams than 6@s on these cards|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 3s alert|pg||
nt|dburn: sorry, than 6@c|pg||
mb|1D!|an|0-7|nt|dburn: although it is certainly true that I have also been in worse slams than 6@s|pg||
nt|dburn: but not as many of them|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@D game-forcing|pg||
nt|chorush: We are back to the nearly 5 club hand|pg||
nt|jillan:  can you make it double dummy Ira|pg||
nt|ritong: @hs behave, so no big deal|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 1NT = relay|pg||
mb|1S|an|4+ F|nt|bg: 3nt makes but hard to bid|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@d = 4@d, 5+@h|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: nope|pg||
nt|harmon: 3n a good result spade lead beats 3n|pg||
mb|1N!|nt|brolucius: 1@H-2@D-3@S= show2 5+@H-5+@C 12-14|pg||
nt|algraves: that is an interesting treatment , lots of merit in it |pg||
nt|chorush: I don't see how unless you get a trump lead or a heart and a heart continuation|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: vulnerable brad would try|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@h = relay|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S 4+@S forcing   if 4@S then 5+@C/@D|pg||
mb|2N|an|4!S-5+minor|nt|bg: true Henri this is an imp scale type of hand|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|jillan:  I ment you personally >)(|pg||
nt|ahollan1: identical auctions -- go figure|pg||
nt|sybarra: frankly everything behaves |pg||
nt|passell: 2dia was a winning bid if he had rebid 1nt fred would be hard pressed to raise|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: non vulnerable possible gain is not much bigger than possible loss|pg||
nt|ritong: so, better go quietly and avoid adrenalina rushes|pg||
nt|ritong: not that brad tends to avoid that:)|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@d = 3=5=4=1|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sry possible correction from down 3 to down 2|pg||
nt|ritong: especially with two baby hearts|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think if Moss thought hand was balanced he would open 1N [good 14] rather than downgrade|pg||
nt|passell: one reason I am on the side line I would rebid 1nt|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N -- YOU MADE ME BID|pg||
nt|ritong: not anymore|pg||
mb|3C!|an|pass-correct|nt|ritong: we see that everything behave, declarer does not|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thru 10    Grue 43  Kang 19|pg||
nt|ritong: visibly an inference|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: must be pass or correct|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Greco pulled out 3@D, put it back|pg||
nt|ritong: landing in anice lil spot|pg||
nt|ritong: welcome to ira chorush|pg||
nt|chorush: hi everyone?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: tried to bid 3@D twice, BALK the second time|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, hi ira:)|pg||
mb|3D|nt|chorush: you need to lead trumps twice from dummy|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry we were disconnected|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Mike - would you do that in your Big Club partnerships too?|pg||
nt|passell: probably open 1nt as it is in range for the big clubbers|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4 to play    Nickell now over Fleisher by ONE|pg||
mb|p|nt|jillan:  you certainly need som e luck here|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: director has not ruled yet|pg||
nt|ahollan1: score correction in the other match   4 to play, match is TIED|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i don't know if 2N guarantees the canape hand, but it   seems balanced would NOT have bid 1@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: great lead!|pg||
nt|harmon: sure is|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: balk -- all players advance one seat??|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nice stop|pg||
nt|chorush: They did well here, looks like it could make while Martel-Stansby went set 3|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: but don't leave us     use  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|nt|harmon: Bakkeren led low c in OR|pg||
nt|rhelle: he's been unlucky with his leads - let a slam nd a game through|pg||
nt|harmon: well the slam shdve been made anyway imho|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|harmon: he just made it easy|pg||
nt|ritong: 260 is 6 imps|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: at least 20 minutes behind on clock|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: players aware|pg||
pc|d8|nt|mslair: the fat lady will be singing soon|pg||
nt|ahollan1: impossible to find @S8 now|pg||
nt|ritong: how so?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but that's only to save overtrick  i think|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thinking from the auction and Gitelman breaking the suit|pg||
nt|ritong: 280 is 7 imps|pg||
pc|d2|nt|chorush: It could be 280 Henri|pg||
pc|d4|nt|marinesa: i'm surprised brad didn't make bid 2c followed by 2s, mild try, i think they play 2way cb|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|algraves: now club to Ace guarantees is clubs no worse than 3-1|pg||
nt|sybarra: ok guys, sorry  will say good night,    long day for me  head on key board :) |pg||
nt|ritong: it will|pg||
pc|s7|nt|bg: gain 6imps to make 3nt nv lose 5 if down one but gain 10 vul vs lose6 if down therefore bid close vul games|pg||
nt|sybarra: gn all |pg||
nt|ahollan1: but maybe Henri it is right to remove later option in case declarer DOES hold @S10|pg||
nt|ritong: well in fact both defensers are depressed contemplting their three @hs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i.e. force guess/committment early|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|ritong: hello mark|pg||
nt|ritong: even if hampson tries something else, trump K drops|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|mslair: hey|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|bg: Fred will make 3  board is a push|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ritong: and fred will be depressed too|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|chorush: I think to hold it to 3 Weinstein would have had to duck his club ace twice when the K and Q were led from dummy|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the pickup a combination of   good NS bidding in this room  ---  East opening bidding in other room|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d6|mc|10|pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3SQJ94HQT864DKCAQ6,SKT853HA97DAQ5CJ8,S76HKJ53DJT2CT953,SA2H2D987643CK742|sv|e|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: on virtual paper another partscore but with these guys u never knwo|pg||
mb|p!|an|no alert, next bid alerted|nt|rodal f: Partscore best at EW it seems.|pg||
mb|2D!|an|4!S 5!H, 11-15|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: 2@D = Flannery|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rodal f: Will EW enter?|pg||
nt|rodal f: Nope.|pg||
pc|c2|nt|rodal f: 140 NS against 130 EW. Can become a swing|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c6|pc|s3|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SQJ94HQT864DKCAQ6,SKT853HA97DAQ5CJ8,S76HKJ53DJT2CT953,SA2H2D987643CK742|sv|e|nt|ritong: pure coinflip slam|pg||
nt|ritong: but two keys off|pg||
nt|ritong: oy|pg||
nt|brolucius: Versace was exhausted after the previous board and bid 3@S so that his partner could take a fair share of the work.|pg||
nt|dburn: third slam in a row|pg||
nt|ritong: he found a way to overcome 4/2@h break and, naturally, they were 3/3|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: this one rather better than the last|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: another 'quiet' board - we're being spoilt tonight!|pg||
nt|ritong: 8 is better, for a full tie|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Martel-Stansby play Flannery 2@D   if you think that is bizarre,  so do Levin-Weinstein|pg||
mb|1H|nt|mslair: likely another 13 IMPs to the Diamond team|pg||
nt|ritong: unclear|pg||
nt|ritong: brad might make it short|pg||
nt|chorush: We will see the effect of the weak NT here|pg||
mb|1S|nt|mslair: short by opening 4 hearts|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@d asks for a @d stop for 3NT|pg||
nt|harmon: 6h makes 6d goes down on roght lead|pg||
nt|rhelle: great EW result here|pg||
nt|harmon: yes|pg||
nt|rhelle: and 7@c is a cheap save, of course - 3 off|pg||
nt|chorush: Martel-Stansby use Flannery, which would discourage a spade overcall|pg||
mb|3D!|nt|ritong: or try some joke|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman showed interest when the tray came back.  usually is very stoic|pg||
nt|ritong: good time to have a gadget for minors|pg||
nt|brolucius: Another slam - just when I have to head for my wine-tasting. Ah well, it was 75 minutes very enjoyably spent. Bye!|pg||
nt|chorush: One of the disadvantages is that is allows the opponents to overcall freely at the one level. A major advantage is that it hinders the opponents from their natural bidding when ...|pg||
nt|chorush: they have the weak NT opener|pg||
nt|rhelle: as 1@d is artificial, 4@d must be pass or correct|pg||
nt|rhelle: North is looking for a save,|pg||
mb|d|nt|chorush: 2 clubs has not been alerted, but I believe it is a transfer to 2D which is a cue bid raise with 3 trumps|pg||
nt|rhelle: and will be surprised his partner's suit is @cs|pg||
nt|ritong: 8 comparisons left|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N very anti-systemic according to my copy of their CC|pg||
nt|ahollan1: best retort:  they also play flannery, or they also think it's bizarre? :)|pg||
nt|ybob: 3@D = 6/9 4 cartas|pg||
nt|ritong: greco has not a great hand, and the @ss behind him do not improve matters|pg||
nt|ybob: sry private|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this time i did not intend double entendre -- but it turned out to be decent straight line|pg||
mb|3H|nt|bg: NS have 7 losers hope they do not vul get them into unprofitable sac|pg||
nt|ritong: oy|pg||
nt|dburn: and seven making on a fluke if you accidentally bid it|pg||
nt|chorush: Martel must now have a way to show his strong NT|pg||
nt|harmon: he knows his suit is clubs|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: north wrote to east that he "thought 3d showed diamonds but not 100% sure"|pg||
nt|harmon: pard asked for d stop|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@D meant to be mixed??  or is that their preempt|pg||
nt|chorush: I think it is mixed|pg||
mb|4D|nt|chorush: Most experts play that 2 spades is Nickells weakest action|pg||
nt|rhelle: does he? Partner can't have @ds after the precision 1@d opening?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: at least that is what the note said|pg||
nt|harmon: oh ok|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: not sure how east kept a straight face during that explanation|pg||
nt|rhelle: lol|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: that's the auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: fred: really?"|pg||
nt|rhelle: well, he knows now|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: right|pg||
nt|harmon: Eric might might just bid 6h|pg||
nt|chorush: Which seems an overstatement, if true|pg||
mb|5D|nt|chorush: Pass would be stronger|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: 2NT forcing, no doubt a useful treatment, but Versace is a bit cramped for room now|pg||
nt|rhelle: 5NT = pick a slam, I think|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i scrambled thinking 1st seat favorable MIGHT be 9-12 but nope|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: Lauria has shown 16+ with 5+@d 4@H and no 3@ss|pg||
nt|rhelle: asking partner to choose between 6@d and 6@h|pg||
nt|rhelle: great bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: pick a slam sort of bid|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3NT probably denies 6 @ds now|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes 5NT= pick a slam|pg||
nt|rhelle: and a great save|pg||
pc|hK|nt|ritong: pachtmann lost a big chance imho|pg||
nt|ritong: 4@h will sound bizarre to fred's ear|pg||
nt|ritong: if any:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: DBL either Responsive  [since hampson essentially bid 3@H]  or specifically showing @D length  [suggested by Weinsteins 4@D]|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2 hands in a row where opening bid made huge difference in rest of auction|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 3@D meant as natural|pg||
nt|chorush: I think this will be set 1 for a strange sort of push|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: contract has play, but..|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 3@H would have been responsive|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks John|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 3@D X i meant|pg||
pc|h2|nt|vugraphzfe: fred writes: not discussed. 2245|pg||
nt|ritong: til now, fred is super happy|pg||
nt|ritong: he had the right tool for a hand which is usually very tough to negotiate|pg||
nt|mslair: can't sign off in 5 hearts   I think he will bid 6 hearts  |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss bouncing nervously|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ritong: @s Q10 is awkward|pg||
nt|chorush: With great good fortune this is going to make|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thru 13   Grue 45 v Kang 19|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|ritong: just bid 4@s and check what happened after smoke clears up|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss also writes 2245|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss: he doesn't know anything about my hand|pg||
pc|h7|nt|vugraphzfe: north says "i guess 3d asked for stopper"|pg||
nt|harmon: lotsa of exciting boards here|pg||
pc|h3|nt|hedyg: pick one yourself?|pg||
nt|rhelle: hahahahaha|pg||
pc|d3|nt|vugraphzfe: south claimed trick 1|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3 to play  FLEISHER leads Nickell by 6|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|dburn: 6@c "you pick one", 6@d "all right", 6NT "not that one"|pg||
nt|algraves: well bid|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|chorush: Katz' double was a very good tactic; he really wanted the opps out of 3NT looking at his club holding|pg||
nt|jillan:  well done!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i.e. this table is WAY behind|pg||
pc|d9|nt|algraves: well he was probably no 0454 as no 3@C so 6@C 1453|pg||
nt|harmon: 6n wrong sided but safe|pg||
nt|hedyg: with 3 cards in @D Versace would probably have bid 4@d|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|chorush: Nickell will shift to the heart king and Katz will have nothing to lose by overtaking it|pg||
nt|ahollan1: our other room is on break|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: they've picked up imps on last 5 boards for a 21-0 run|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: did Greco give declarer a chance for extra trick by failure to split honors?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: a bit of a Grosvenor|pg||
nt|chorush: Weinstein has picked up 2 pieces of news, both bad.  Trumps are not splitting and the club ace is wrong|pg||
pc|d8|pc|s9|pg||
pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: Hampson could have scored both of his trump tricks on this line|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|algraves: some might open east hand 1NT or if 1@D then rebid 2@C afraid to reverse with marginal reversing values so credit to Lauria for just bidding naturally |pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
nt|ritong: levin will say " sry mate" and weinstein " np  i would do same"|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: at least 25 minutes behind|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and good on them for that -- single dummy  it is decent contract |pg||
nt|ahollan1: but more important  always good to show partner you're on his side|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: levin had a tough decision to make|pg||
nt|ritong: his side found @ds, which is not obvious|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg||
nt|ritong: so perhaps it was enough to win the board|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SJ874HDA42CAKJT85,S32HAKTDKQT98C972,SAKQT9H765DJCQ643,S65HQJ98432D7653C|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|nt|rodal f: Interesting cards.|pg||
nt|imp_jan: well seven black|pg||
nt|imp_jan: though club ruff|pg||
nt|rodal f: :)|pg||
nt|imp_jan: not if north bids spades|pg||
mb|1S|mb|4D|nt|imp_jan: 5@H lackwood ?!|pg||
nt|rodal f: How to bid it is the question.|pg||
nt|imp_jan: a little over the top though|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: admit with all crds open i am a little to enthu|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|rodal f: Well done anyway by EW and there @D bids.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yes, the 4@D bid did its job|pg||
nt|imp_jan: score equal (diamond won 7 back on previous)|pg||
pc|s4|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg||
mc|13|nt|Vugraphzfc: short break, i am alone at the table|pg||
pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SJ874HDA42CAKJT85,S32HAKTDKQT98C972,SAKQT9H765DJCQ643,S65HQJ98432D7653C|sv|b|nt|ritong: on the other hand, 3@s will close the auction more often than not|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: loud discussion from hall, kibitzer gail greenberg hurries to close door|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: he claimed 7 on a squeeze but ns objected|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: director has been nagging the players about being slow now he says|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: they might not be able to play all the boards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: just another push|pg||
nt|ahollan1: :)|pg||
nt|ritong: on the other hand, if game is cold and his counterparts find @ds too, it would be an important loss|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: So Katz' double transformed a loss to a gain. Hard to blame Stansby for thinking that 3NT wasn't going to make|pg||
nt|rhelle: another testing board|pg||
nt|chorush: Big opportunity here for diamond|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other match this was push at 7@S=|pg||
mb|2C!|an|natural|mb|2D|nt|harmon: they were right too|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|jillan:  how to stay out of game here|pg||
nt|rhelle: 9 boards played, 45-45. Incredible match|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 11-15 HCP, 6+@C|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Diamond-Platnick really put on pressure in other room|pg||
mb|3S!|nt|ahollan1: i believe 3@S is just natural Game Force|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oops   there is another 7@S hand coming   it was a swing in Grue match|pg||
mb|5D|nt|dburn: were they? wasn't North going to be show-up-squeezed in hearts and clubs?|pg||
nt|hedyg: i think so|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sry i always try to say when declarer claims t1 because people ask why I didn't type in the cards that went by|pg||
nt|ahollan1: actually other room only on 59   but other match at least 4 boards faster|pg||
nt|ritong: muller has to move|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and good interference in our room too|pg||
nt|ritong: i think 3@s is @s and @c, since likely 2@s would be forcing already|pg||
nt|ahollan1:  13 is that pushed grand|pg||
nt|chorush: They have received the same sort of preemption here with one important difference: Greco knows that Hampson has a GAME FORCE with spades|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: director just walked in, warning upcoming|pg||
nt|chorush: In the other room it went 1C-1D-1S so North's hand was very ill-defined|pg||
mb|6D|nt|ritong: mrs greenberg is brad's mom|pg||
nt|algraves: so cheek and gure play negative doubles after 2NT unusual|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: south said he was able to pitch|pg||
nt|chorush: A double by Katz here might have turned what will be a minus into a plus|pg||
nt|jillan:  yes a double from Katz wold have made it a bit simpled for Nickell|pg||
nt|ritong: probably 2@s hoping pard can bid NTs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: greco hand is HUGE on this auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: grue coulda pitched his q of d|pg||
nt|dburn: he was right about that|pg||
nt|ahollan1: interesting DBL|pg||
nt|ritong: no matter what, south has a rockcrusher for @ss|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but can Hampson envision @H void?    no way they bid the grand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but big gain just be getting to 6level|pg||
nt|chorush: Since Hampson has received a grand slam invitation, he may be able to bid it now with his trumps|pg||
mb|6S|nt|harmon: no diff|pg||
nt|wstuart: Surely Nick will bid here, prob 5@C rather than 4NT.|pg||
nt|chorush: Mind you Katz has a terrible hand but he does have what he knows are a wasted AK of hearts|pg||
nt|wstuart: wrong again.|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: grue needed Q10 of d|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|chorush: looks like a misunderstanding here|pg||
nt|wstuart: Tough decision between 5@C and 4NT|pg||
nt|rhelle: that will be 11 tricks and 3 IMPs - bringing the match exactly level|pg||
nt|ritong: on the other hand, he s not certain small slam will be bid other room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this will be good hand for partnership discussion  --   greco's choices of 5@H, 5N, 6@D  ....|pg||
pc|hQ|mc|13|nt|wstuart: hmmm|pg||
nt|jillan:  don't think Nickell tought pass was NF|pg||
nt|ritong: oh|pg||
nt|ritong: and an accident, like a @c ruff, can happen|pg||
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qx|o11|st||md|1SQ83H8DKQ8632CK52,SHKQ9763DJT7CJ876,SJT542HA42D9CAQT3,SAK976HJT5DA54C94|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|2H|nt|rodal f: Where to stop? |pg||
nt|imp_jan: ns shld NOT detect thr spade fit|pg||
mb|2S|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: temopting to bid 4! as south|pg||
nt|imp_jan: yep|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|imp_jan: again a very intelligent jump to the 4level by Brian Platnick|pg||
nt|rodal f: Y. And EW was -1 by a @H lwad while this will cost a bit.|pg||
nt|imp_jan: previous brd he talked them out grand slam by jumping to 4@D|pg||
nt|rodal f: lead*|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: well, prob. never getting to the grand last board and stansby did think about bidding on... but yes was an effective preempt|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
nt|imp_jan: probably continues in hearts (best)|pg||
pc|hT|pc|s3|nt|imp_jan: wd|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|d4|pg||
nt|rodal f: @C and @S to 8Q? Hards stuff.|pg||
nt|imp_jan: trumpshort anyway|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: www.bridgewinners.com gives results after each segment, no running scores are posted anywhere for this event|pg||
nt|rodal f: Y|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: for information about the tournament go to www.acbl.org, tournaments, nationals, louisville|pg||
nt|imp_jan: which team?|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|h7|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sQ|nt|rodal f: Finito.|pg||
pc|h6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|d3|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|d6|mc|9|pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1SQ83H8DKQ8632CK52,SHKQ9763DJT7CJ876,SJT542HA42D9CAQT3,SAK976HJT5DA54C94|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: very intriguing hand   and records will say  "just a push"|pg||
nt|dburn: still, declarer should probably have made it given the bidding|pg||
nt|wstuart: Nip and tuck, Fleisher back on top now.|pg||
nt|chorush: Hampson Greco will worry that they have lost 13 imps and be very pleased to discover they have won 13|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the key quesiton   what would greco bid with @HX  @DAx|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|rhelle: and another interesting hand ...|pg||
mb|1S|nt|rhelle: 1@s = relay|pg||
mb|2S|nt|algraves: how does he make after the ruff sluff?|pg||
nt|chorush: Its a good question Al, but with his Jxxx of trumps I personally don't think he would bid 6D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe the real point    opponent interference makes confident small/grand slam bidding very difficult|pg||
mb|d!|an|support|nt|ahollan1: with 3 to score   O'Rourke leads Nickell by 7|pg||
nt|wstuart: I think DBL showed a 5+ card minor + 4 card major?|pg||
nt|chorush: yes, I assume 2 diamonds asks for pass or correction to major|pg||
nt|ybob: sus aperturas van de 11 a 15, 1@C de 16 +|pg||
mb|4H|nt|hedyg: 1@H or 1@s?|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1NT = 4+ @s|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@c = relay|pg||
nt|ahollan1: since other room didn't get to slam    small vs grand  insignificant imp difference|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: director "you need to hurry"|pg||
mb|d|nt|wstuart: It's interesting that Martel didn't jam with 3@H here - I guess he thought he had enough defense with both majors that he wasn't worried about getting outbid.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: diredctor "the boards ween't that hard at at any other table"|pg||
nt|ritong: ...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other match has finished 1st Quarter    Grue over Kang  57-35|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: hampson " i promise we won't play ant faster with you standing over the table"|pg||
nt|ritong: uh oh|pg||
mb|r|nt|rhelle: 3@h = 4=6=2=1 exactly|pg||
nt|chorush: battle of nerves here|pg||
nt|poohbear: The  " I hope they run " redouble|pg||
nt|ahollan1: notice Support DBL even when Hampson's 1@S implies 5+|pg||
nt|chorush: 4Hxx down 2 with trumps led early|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i say implies since not sure if they'll bid 1@S with really good 4-card suit|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: 3@h now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i thought previous set 1N was Semi-Force     maybe Semi over 1@H and absolute over 1@S|pg||
nt|ritong: can t be 4, since 2@d denied 4@h imo|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: he cant unless ht onside that was my point|pg||
nt|harmon: Im glad u know the relays Rob:)|pg||
nt|rhelle: by heart :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: I try to get the info the write down on notepads and pass around but sometimes no one asks|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: they|pg||
nt|rhelle: Now North has choices ... 3@s = strong relay, only asks controls|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@c = weak relay, asks for max and controls|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: before everyone yelled at mne lol|pg||
nt|chorush: Not that often that 2NT is right as "save" over 2 spades; here it is going to make when 2 spades also would have made (I think)|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@d = signoff, asks partner to bid 4@h, so that he can pass or bid the final contract|pg||
pc|d9|nt|ritong: lets see if fred can save 1 imp making 9|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss trying to find an escort to leave the room and ginossar tells him just to go|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: some back and forth between boards about the alleged tempo break|pg||
nt|wstuart: is it better for katz to dbl again?|pg||
nt|rhelle: and 4@s = a slight invitation|pg||
nt|chorush: potentially 600 coming provided a trump shift is made after the first club lead|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
nt|wstuart: Asked by a spec;  I think His DBL of 2@S is probably more strongly penalty oriented.|pg||
nt|chorush: Depends on what their methods are. They might as well not play 2 spades dbld because I don't think they will beat it. Could be wrong though|pg||
pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: whoa baby   Fleisher just picked up another 10    2 to play  Fleisher leads Nickell by 16|pg||
nt|ritong: fred could try for slam|pg||
nt|ritong: like 4@c|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think Fleisher vs Diamond would be rematch from final of the 2010 Team Trials  and  final of 2010 spingold??|pg||
nt|ritong: his hand is limited|pg||
nt|ritong: but he took the low road|pg||
nt|ritong: (confidentially, he knows brad can be overactive in finishing situations)|pg||
pc|s8|nt|bg: fred the magician can only make 3 if N plays 3 rounds of spades|pg||
nt|ritong: he has 8 on top and NS can try to establish a long @s|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s2|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: director said if tray passes back within 25 seconds it is not a break in tempo|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|dJ|nt|harmon: Diamond will jump out to a huge lead this board 1 matbe 2 imps!!!:)|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|nt|ritong: cashing time|pg||
nt|bg: or leads a third dia:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: you all think the 4@H bid is ok?|pg||
pc|c8|nt|algraves: yes , ptich heart on third diamond , Q@S, low@S to J|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|nt|ritong: good move|pg||
pc|h8|nt|hedyg: specs all bid 2@d|pg||
nt|ritong: and anyways, knowing the @c shortness, his @c holding was not pretty|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|c9|nt|ahollan1: Greco should get this right|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: nearly 30 minutes behind|pg||
nt|chorush: A spec has pointed out that Levin's redbl will cost only 3 imps relative to passing and that it had the potential to turn a minus into a plus|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if hampson had played !AH @H  then might be harder for south|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 22 minutes remain on clock   so according to new/frequently documented ACBL rules -- we may see some boards removed from play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: toughest play now is   "smooth duck"|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|algraves: club finesse , A and @H|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|d6|mc|8|nt|ahollan1: we know greco's play should be easy -- but at the table ALL of these players would have taken time to verify that before playing small @C|pg||
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qx|o12|st||md|2SKQ63HK52DKJ5CT93,SAH9873DQ987642CQ,SJT72HAJ64DA3C752,S9854HQTDTCAKJ864|sv|n|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: shld lead hearts|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg||
nt|imp_jan: still down|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|rodal f: Y. This gave some free tricks.|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|h3|pc|c2|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s2|nt|imp_jan: jeff and eric bid 6@S so diamond on lead|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h8|nt|rodal f: B11 6@S+1 and 13 IP|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SKQ63HK52DKJ5CT93,SAH9873DQ987642CQ,SJT72HAJ64DA3C752,S9854HQTDTCAKJ864|sv|n|nt|vugraphzfe: moss comes back and apologizes: "don't want to imply anything", shakes pachtmann's hand, says "we'll talk about it in the bar"|pg||
nt|harmon: then what|pg||
nt|algraves: then claim|pg||
nt|wstuart: What a fine set of actoin hands we are seeing.|pg||
mb|3D|nt|harmon: how|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: if brad opens, they will prolly be in 4NT|pg||
nt|ritong: hm|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: curious that Moss opens playing 2/1  and Verhees did NOT playing a Big Club system|pg||
nt|dburn: then, he has the ace and jack of spades, and the lead is in dummy|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=11-15 HCP  (3)4+@D|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 1@s = 9+, 4+@h, unbalanced|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|harmon: potential slam here|pg||
nt|rhelle: so NS are now in a GF situation|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but my copy of CC has been wrong a couple times this set :(|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ritong: 4NT swish|pg||
nt|harmon: hts havent been played|pg||
pc|s3|nt|hedyg: NS play precision so 1@D can be many kinds of hands|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|wstuart: very nice slam - hard to bid.|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: for specs unfamiliar with the treatment    2N showed Balanced Game Force   a totally new concept that was introduced in 1920s|pg||
nt|bg: this pair obviously use 2nt as a balanced openig bid vs others who use Jacoby--both styles have their merits|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: that sounds right according to their pre alert|pg||
nt|ritong: i love that 3@h bid|pg||
nt|ritong: meaning " i would open 3@h"|pg||
pc|c5|nt|dburn: awkward for South, this|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
nt|wstuart: Did east miss his chance by not splintering over the 2@H rebid?|pg||
nt|chorush: Yes, Wayne, slam is quite good and hard to bid. I always have trouble when I don't start with a direct forcing raise. Let's see if Katz does better than I would|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|nt|chorush: Most partnerships have a rule that there are generally no new suits bid at the four level. So 4D is a cue for heartswith slam interest|pg||
nt|harmon: huge lead probably gone now|pg||
pc|h3|pc|c2|pg||
nt|hedyg: what a lead|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|h7|nt|hedyg: Liz the tables dont seem to be connected?|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|jillan:  well done Nick|pg||
nt|chorush: vwd and will duly make|pg||
nt|wstuart: a well earned push/|pg||
nt|ritong: all these considerations about preempting pard etc are not really reliable  preempts are precise bids  here muller has a textbook 3@h good suit, no outside values|pg||
pc|c4|nt|vugraphzfe: fred calling cards so softly moss has to ask|pg||
nt|chorush: In slam bidding, there is a special responsibility placed upon the partner who holds the AK of trumps. His partner is doing all this inviting without them, so... should strain to ...|pg||
nt|chorush: accept|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|d3|pg||
nt|wstuart: from a spec:  "I don't understand the bidding - West seems to have pushed to slam when East should have been the one doing so?"|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|d2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: meckwell went for 1100 on final board  against a vul game -- so it really does look like Diamond v Fleisher  tomorrow in the Semi-Finals|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|dT|nt|rhelle: might even be a deficit|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|wstuart: West ahdn't show any extra values at 3@H - 4@D showed slam interest opposite a potential min;  now west has a very good hand.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h5|nt|hedyg: bd 10 Seamon played in 4@H and made it|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: I don't know, I have no control over that connection|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: but i will try to find out about it|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty Liz|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
mc|8|nt|wstuart: 5@H on their auction says that 4@D was the whole story, but west hand enough to drive it in after that.|pg||
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qx|o13|st||md|3S82HQ54DJ32CQ9753,SAT9543HK7DACAJ42,S76HJ986DQ984CKT8,SKQJHAT32DKT765C6|sv|b|nt|rodal f: Fun to come again?|pg||
nt|imp_jan: again 7@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|imp_jan: rebid 2@S?|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|imp_jan: yess|pg||
nt|rodal f: Good conrol EW now, I belive.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N!|nt|rodal f: control*|pg||
nt|imp_jan: usually 2n is a relay asking for lenght and strenght|pg||
nt|rodal f: Anyway a force|pg||
nt|henryb:  both tables in the other match bid this grand|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|nt|Vugraphzfc: 2N asks, usually shows shape|pg||
nt|imp_jan: seems poss as opps cant interfere..|pg||
nt|henryb:  In most methods it asks whether opener has four trumps|pg||
nt|imp_jan: indeed|pg||
nt|imp_jan: and a rebid in a m shows length in m and denies 4crd supp|pg||
nt|imp_jan: does that make west happy|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: well, he's scratching head, opening and folding cards, so maybe not so much|pg||
nt|imp_jan: he is sure about six, but how to find out about the grand?|pg||
nt|henryb:  some play a step kind of rebid: 3@c = min, 3 trumps, 3@d = max, 3 trumps, higher bids show four trumps|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|nt|imp_jan: not sure about 4@C|pg||
nt|henryb:  but in a big club context it probably makes more sense to show minor suit length with 3 of a minor|pg||
nt|rodal f: Seems ure right there Henry.|pg||
mb|p|mb|4N|nt|po-s: probably better to reverse the first two steps, gives room to switch trumps at a conveient level|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: trumps are set on the auction, but their writing is small and confusing, that is all i am sure of|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5H|nt|rodal f: 4@C que    5@C=0-3?|pg||
nt|imp_jan: 4@C kick back?|pg||
nt|henryb:  4N would be 2 with the Q|pg||
mb|p|mb|6C|nt|Vugraphzfc: 5@H was king ask, 6@C shows @H K, no minor Ks|pg||
mb|p|mb|6D|nt|henryb:  but who actually knows (except John and Brian)? :)|pg||
nt|po-s: he better be careful - soon East might pass a club bid|pg||
mb|p|mb|6S|nt|imp_jan: hm|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: something rotten here|pg||
nt|henryb:  Maybe they are in Denmark?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yes, i have answers from one side of the table, i expect there might be discussion but we'll see|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Diamonds says, "couldn't find out about the @SJ"|pg||
nt|imp_jan: meanwhile on brd 12 levin-weinstein went 2 light rdbld in 4h|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|sQ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|nt|imp_jan: so diamond dbld its lead, but might give back imps on this one|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|sK|mc|13|nt|imp_jan: sr, brd 11 it was|pg||
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qx|c13|st||md|3S82HQ54DJ32CQ9753,SAT9543HK7DACAJ42,S76HJ986DQ984CKT8,SKQJHAT32DKT765C6|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: i think Culbertson's 2N was forcing too|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: played the club 9 on the last|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sort of my way of saying  --   i don't think any single player is to blame for this table being slow|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Diamond-Platnick stopped in 6@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
mb|1D|nt|rhelle: 1@d = 0-8|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: for the extra trick|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: then claimed|pg||
mb|p|nt|passell: 6 diamonds was a great result in the other room  a bad contract that made|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: thought Acol introduced 2N as invite  and artificial Game Force was Ozzie & Jim Jacoby  early 60s??|pg||
nt|harmon: oh yea lol|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@h = 19+|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: Does the 3rd segment of these 64 boards start at 8p local time (5p BBO time)?|pg||
nt|wstuart: The operator says yes.|pg||
nt|chorush: The 3 dominant teams in American bridge over the past couple of years have been the two you are watching here and Diamond. The winner of this match will face Diamond should Diamond ...|pg||
nt|chorush: win today|pg||
nt|jillan:  will maybe be in bed by then...it is 11 pm here now...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: THIS is the hand that was pushed at 7@S= min the Grue-Kang match|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ritong: not sure about their style, but this @c Ax is surely worth an effort|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C must deny 3+@S|pg||
nt|wstuart: Spec asks what is the diff between the 2@S cue and a potential 2@C cue.|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@h = 2=2=5=4 exactly, 6-8 points|pg||
nt|passell: moss may raise 5dia though|pg||
mb|p|nt|passell: hard not to|pg||
mb|3C|nt|wstuart: Many play that the higher cue is more trumps and less HCP then the lower cue.|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@h also promises at least 1 control, so North will be wondering what to do next. 6@d looks possible|pg||
nt|harmon: can he have 2 controls??|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@s asks for controls|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|nt|hedyg: bd 9 6NT +1|pg||
nt|passell: well done|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wonder what 2@S-P-P-4@S shows?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S-P-P-4@C/@D often @H & the minor|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2N would have been relay for more info    not sure about implications of direct 3@C|pg||
mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: just not sure if 6th @C shown|pg||
nt|chorush: different pairs have different uses. Could be 2 spades shows 4 card support and 2C shows 3. Each to his own|pg||
nt|passell: needs 2 3-2 breaks and a lot more|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i think double dummy defense can set this 4    starts with @H lead|pg||
nt|ritong: now a battle of undertricks|pg||
nt|ritong: three looks like a lot of them|pg||
nt|ahollan1: then they must untangle @S winners while retaining transportation in @H -- extremely unlikely|pg||
nt|bg: rebid of the minor usually shows 6 with 3 hearts better to raise hearts with unbalanced hand|pg||
nt|ritong: but|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right Bruce -- but there is slight impact playing transfer responses|pg||
nt|ritong: try @c hook, loses, a @h back|pg||
nt|hedyg: bd 11 3@H -2|pg||
mb|4S|nt|ritong: now the contract makes with @d K on|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: depending on 1N rebid -- 1@H can be used to show exactly 3@H [1N=weak balanced hand] or 2/3@H  [1N=18-19]|pg||
nt|harmon: Hedy why u disconnect tables??|pg||
nt|ritong: offer him an entry!|pg||
nt|passell: if the Q of clubs didnt fall would need that hand to have 2 trumps|pg||
nt|ritong: pitch @d J|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: i like how he thinks  he says sorry if you can make 7|pg||
mb|4N|nt|ritong: so 3@h 2@s 1@c 1@d|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann picked up his bidding cards, trying to end the auction before the tray passed back. perhaps has given up|pg||
nt|hedyg: moi?|pg||
nt|harmon: vous|pg||
nt|hedyg: jamais!|pg||
nt|hedyg: score is 28-7|pg||
nt|hedyg: for Cayne|pg||
nt|wstuart: However, there is a difference when you have overcalled 1M and 1m - when you've overcalled 1m 3NT is a likely contract and it is useful to play that you cue the one that you have a ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: stopper in, while after 1M the number of trumps and hand type is more important.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: he is facing his hand|pg||
nt|wstuart: I don't know what the NS undersdtanding is here.|pg||
nt|jillan:  a wll played match with a lot of interesting hands and actions|pg||
mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann toying with his cards, trick 1 still faced|pg||
nt|chorush: This seems very hard hand to bid to grand because each hand had features that are essential to the success of the contract and they meld very well|pg||
nt|ahollan1: good idea from spec   2N with 4@S  other bids guarantee 5+@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 5@S = 2 Key Cards + Q|pg||
mb|6S|nt|rhelle: at least they managed to right-side it - should be a few overtricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not clear if Levin has shown @C shortness|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|ritong: steve won t like the dummy|pg||
nt|ritong: too good|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now it is clear that Levin did NOT ever show his @C singleton|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
nt|ritong: tsk tsk|pg||
pc|c6|nt|bg: do you try to make or play dia ace and concede down one;)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: screen lowered while moss whispers a question|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: stretches, sighs, cracks his knuckles behind his head|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: certainly not acting like the match is decided|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if 3@C was natural slam try -- then Levin 4@C probably shows @C HONOR  rather than shortness|pg||
pc|c7|nt|harmon: Versace/Lauria playing GREAT!!!!|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: jeff meckstroth:  they still pay bonus for making game, don't they?|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: may be forced to get it right from here|pg||
nt|ritong: completely so|pg||
nt|ritong: just exit a @h, just in case|pg||
nt|dburn: seven just about with the odds - some chances over and above 4-3 diamonds - but close|pg||
mc|13|nt|dburn: that is, assuming a trump lead|pg||
nt|ritong: hi david|pg||
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qx|o14|st||md|4SA832H975DKJ6CAQ9,SQT64HQT2DAT5CJ54,SK95H864DQ8742CT3,SJ7HAKJ3D93CK8762|sv|o|nt|baldjean: 1|pg||
mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1H!|an|shows !Ss|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|rodal f: EW to by this but NS have 2@D.|pg||
mb|p|nt|imp_jan: 1n denies 3 spades|pg||
mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|imp_jan: wow, what a lead|pg||
nt|rodal f: Joe and Curtis was at 1NTXX for 760.|pg||
nt|imp_jan: this hand and in what line?|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
nt|rodal f: Grue up 25 I'm told.|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|c2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|d8|pc|c6|pc|s8|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|sJ|pc|c9|pc|s6|pg||
pc|cT|mc|5|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SA832H975DKJ6CAQ9,SQT64HQT2DAT5CJ54,SK95H864DQ8742CT3,SJ7HAKJ3D93CK8762|sv|o|nt|rhelle: surely North ditched a @h :)|pg||
nt|passell: yes not putting him in dummy made it fool proof|pg||
nt|dburn: actually, that was rubbish|pg||
mb|1C|nt|hedyg: bd 12 S is playing 4@h|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: were no cards played for those who asked other than the opening lead|pg||
mb|d|nt|rhelle: 1NT = good 12 to 15|pg||
nt|ahollan1: just the kind of hand EW want at this point|pg||
nt|dburn: well, if their opponents had made 6NT at the other table, they might not want it|pg||
nt|ahollan1: helps to have sequence that shows invite with exactly 4333|pg||
nt|dburn: 6NT was... well, I've seen worse|pg||
nt|passell: moss gittleman having their way here  their team mates dont suspect they are in this great shape|pg||
nt|warrens:  isn't it about 70%, either a finesse or 3-3 @C's or a black suit squeeze|pg||
nt|dburn: quite a lot worse, to be honest - almost convincing myself it's a good contract|pg||
nt|passell: yes  at least 70 percent slam|pg||
nt|ritong: i would be very sad not to be in it|pg||
nt|ahollan1: having seen Brad in action -- might just bid 6N here|pg||
nt|ritong: no|pg||
nt|ritong: when things come to slam, 4/4 fit is important|pg||
nt|po-s: agree|pg||
nt|dburn: I'll go out and come in again|pg||
nt|ritong: okay|pg||
nt|chorush: welcome back|pg||
mb|1N|nt|ritong: even with a 4333|pg||
nt|passell: doesnt matter what he does  fred is accepting anything|pg||
nt|ritong: i prepare " hi david"|pg||
nt|dburn: hello Henri|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the boyz have kicked into high[er] gear|pg||
mb|2D|nt|vugraphzfe: director sitting on chair as only kibitzer|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ritong: ginossar/pachtmann not having fun|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nickell v O'Rourke showing  Nickell +7 with 2 to play  there is possible scoring error of 3 or 4 imps [it would be in favor of O'Rourke]|pg||
nt|hedyg: live streaming from the OR: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion|pg||
nt|dburn: but it would have been wrong to bid eight - that really was against the odds|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: Chpis turn to get his lead directing DBL in|pg||
nt|chorush: will Katz think his hand worth a raise?|pg||
nt|wstuart: *Chip's|pg||
nt|ritong: but things do not come to slam|pg||
mb|3C|nt|ritong: untouchable today|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S instead of 1N means Moss ON DEFENSE gets 100 honors|pg||
nt|bg: not much joy in this hand eather|pg||
nt|ritong: but imps no matter what|pg||
nt|ritong: even if few|pg||
nt|hedyg: far left is Cayne, far right Amoils|pg||
nt|rhelle: this looks like 10 tricks on a low @c lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3N?  wow  that wasn't on the list of bids to consider|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: with the @hs breaking 22|pg||
nt|dburn: when did this match start?|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Nick won't|pg||
nt|wstuart: It's interesting that EW do'nt ahve any special methods here to try and get the contract played by the hand that has a @C stopper|pg||
nt|ritong: long ago|pg||
nt|dburn: I mean, on approximately what day?|pg||
pc|d6|nt|chorush: 2:25 ago|pg||
nt|ritong: hampson and the director won t go to holidays together|pg||
nt|ahollan1: interesting non-strength showing reverse in comp   when partner has implied no 4-card major|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|nt|ahollan1: but as we see  Weinstein obviously does bid 1N over DBL with 4-card major  so good to have partnership agreement|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|chorush: Guess that is commentator's curse|pg||
nt|wstuart: It's reasonable to play pass to say he doesn't have any reason for a @C lead to come up to his hand, then try and get the major suit contracts played by east, who might have a @C ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: stopper.|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ritong: and a @h|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d by Versace would have shown both majors|pg||
nt|rhelle: the @C 9 was upside down count - the @s2 upside down attitude|pg||
nt|rhelle: so North has an odd number of @cs and likes @ss|pg||
pc|c3|nt|wstuart: I think this might make double dummy.|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c9|pg||
nt|ritong: best is to duck that|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred fidgeting with quitted trick, hand folded|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh  bigtrain [Walter Johnson] says if scoring error  it would be Nickell +1 with 1 to play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: amazing our match had ANY spectators|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: with bbotv can watch more than one room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: too right -- never thought about them  even though one is ME|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred finally fans his cards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but we who logged in to watch this match  saw a lot of very solid play from Diamond|pg||
nt|passell: unreal taking this position with a monster game going|pg||
nt|ahollan1: West hand looks like NT to me too|pg||
pc|s2|nt|hedyg: bd 12 5 imps to Grue, 4@H -3|pg||
nt|hedyg: 28 - 12|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Fred faced his hand to hurry things along|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow   i'm told in other match  one room played 1NXX+1  South|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|chorush: Yes, squeeze looks like it will work|pg||
pc|dT|mc|7|nt|bg: sometimes better to use only two entries to play on side duit like clubs which requires two finesses  and jus lead spade away from king|pg||
nt|ahollan1: whoa    de ja vu|pg||
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qx|o15|st||md|1S53HAKJ83D9CAT876,SAKT874HT5DQ54CJ3,SQ9H9762DJ862CK92,SJ62HQ4DAKT73CQ54|sv|n|nt|rodal f: Grue up 22.|pg||
mb|1H|nt|imp_jan: spades v hearts|pg||
mb|2S|nt|imp_jan: a Law like situation|pg||
nt|rodal f: A hard level at 3 for all?|pg||
nt|rodal f: LL right tis time:)|pg||
nt|imp_jan: not always|pg||
nt|rodal f: this*|pg||
nt|imp_jan: remember i played against him (and berko) |pg||
nt|imp_jan: we had 9 hearts so competed at 3 level , they had 9 spades |pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: so 3@S by them: 800 :)|pg||
nt|imp_jan: f4@h was down one|pg||
pc|h2|nt|imp_jan: like 4@S here |pg||
nt|rodal f: Was those ruuls against the LAW then.|pg||
nt|imp_jan: yep|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|nt|imp_jan: another time, another place]|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|rodal f: S see @D and @S. A@C?|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c9|nt|rodal f: At least a @C|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|imp_jan: amazing that levin-weinstein missed the grand as well on 13|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s8|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sK|mc|9|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1S53HAKJ83D9CAT876,SAKT874HT5DQ54CJ3,SQ9H9762DJ862CK92,SJ62HQ4DAKT73CQ54|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: unofficial   Nickell beats O'Rourke by 1|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred mumbles sorry.  moss:"I could have played @SK at trick one"|pg||
nt|ritong: extremely unofficial|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2 possible scoring errors so stand by|pg||
nt|passell: this would have given the opponents a shot had it made|pg||
nt|ritong: they are in zeitnot, too|pg||
mb|1H|nt|wstuart: The Greensboro NC native has show fine card reading skills.|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ritong: not sure moss should go high with both opps passed|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
nt|ahollan1: observant spec points out 6@H makes on dummy reversal|pg||
nt|ritong: ton kooijman warned them|pg||
nt|ahollan1: since both matches playing same boards -- other match will NOT start earlier this match  [that's my story & i'm sticking to it]|pg||
mb|3H!|an|premptive|nt|algraves: he had to draw exactly 2 @H then play on clubs. Lauria can win thrid club and play @S but you ruff in dummy and ruff club and play last heart to dummy to draw trumps|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: moss wide-eyed at the 5@H call|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@d = 0-8|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: bd 13 2@s by E|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2 scores in  Fleisher leads by 37 over Onstott    Berg over Lynch by 74|pg||
nt|chorush: One moral of this story is that when you play cards to help partner, it may help declarer as much or more. the diamond 9 was a tipoff, with the K he would have no reason to ...|pg||
nt|chorush: discourage a diamond return|pg||
nt|wstuart: 3NT on these auctions shows specifically long and good @D since 2NT would be bid on 18-19 bal hands.|pg||
nt|chorush: I think Nick's hand is too good for his action|pg||
nt|wstuart: Nice point, Ira|pg||
nt|wstuart: Yes, he|pg||
nt|chorush: Both sides make exactly 3 of major on this hand. A triumph for the law of total tricks|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ritong: !|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@c = 16-18, 5+@c, NF|pg||
pc|h4|nt|wstuart: *he's definitely heavy for 3NT.|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|wstuart: However, it may be a least of evils decision - I don't know their methods well enough to undersdtand his other consideratoins.|pg||
nt|jillan:  scheisse, and he was doing so well|pg||
nt|mikeirl: is tuesday ok for  u|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|ritong: 1NT response had a small chance  2@s has not|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we'll surely see Nickell v O'Rourke in final set of the night -- and if this table one of last to finish this match too|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "sorry if this is wrong"|pg||
nt|algraves: he was playing east to be 7411 I think|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@c = mild invitation|pg||
nt|dinos1: 6@h needs 3-3, 6N - @c3-3|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ritong: on the other hand, 1NT with four trumps, a singleton and a king would be fancy|pg||
pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: looks like Nickell will end set trailing O'Rourke by 8|pg||
nt|lc: The triumph was for the 3@H bid -- which looks ugly, but forced East into the wrong guess.|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: this result easy to accept -- when you're +80|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|rhelle: this should be swiftly -1 ...|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|ritong: forgiven|pg||
nt|rhelle: but stranger things have happened|pg||
nt|passell: and a dia finesse|pg||
nt|bobh1: Hi Alex.  Miss you being here.  We're having fun. Hope you and family ae well. |pg||
nt|dburn: for the benefit of any layman who may have wandered in, "zeitnot" means "time trouble"|pg||
nt|dinos1: or fin|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yep -- but i thought impressive to notice the possibility|pg||
nt|ritong: yoou are in zeitnot when alloted time is almost trespassed   chess expression|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: forgotten :)|pg||
nt|passell: 4 spades is the best spot here also|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|nt|vugraphzfe: fred calling cards more audibly this hand|pg||
nt|multiphren: it means you do not have to write down your moves anymore zeitnot|pg||
nt|ahollan1: looks like German or Yiddish word|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Bergen would bid 1@S-3@S   that might convince East to Pass|pg||
pc|c7|nt|ritong: really?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and probably easier to find 9 tricks in 3@S than in 4@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: which really?   3@S with West   or   Pass from East??|pg||
nt|ritong: i mean 1) would bergen preempt two passed hands and 2) would west give up?|pg||
nt|ritong: esat*|pg||
nt|ritong: east**|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sure 3@S -- descriptive     East Passing -- that's why i said "might"  only 5 trump, 3 quick outside losers [3@S won't have Ace]|pg||
nt|dinos1: german, zeit = time|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|nt|rhelle: and that is 9 tricks|pg||
nt|dburn: it is German - it literally means "time need"|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|ritong: hi larry|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c6|nt|vugraphzfe: room is actually clearing out|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|bg: does bergen apply by a passed hand? 3s is just a preempt with good hands use drury|pg||
nt|rhelle: of course playing the @s 10 is his only legitimate chance of making his contract|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: 3 results posted at http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nickell showing as +3 but unofficial|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: no finals posted yet  but they'll filter in to   http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-8|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@S still preempt -- but 2N/3@C/3@D meanings do change by passed hand|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: make opponents guess  --  that is key feature of these top level matches  |pg||
nt|ahollan1: not only in bidding -- but also during play/defense|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|hedyg: why no 1NT opening in S?|pg||
nt|dburn: he wants the finesse to be right, beacause then maybe his opponents could make 4@h|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2S74HAQT86DK83CQ83,ST65HJ42DQ9754CKT,SKQJ9832HKDATC765,SAH9753DJ62CAJ942|sv|e|nt|imp_jan: with one brd to go diamond running away a little|pg||
mb|p|nt|imp_jan: one brd in segment 1 that is|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|imp_jan: ns stole 4@S in cr|pg||
mb|p|nt|imp_jan: but red lead looks likely|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: not easy to defend of course|pg||
pc|d2|nt|imp_jan: ok a push then|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|rodal f: Tx al for a nice segment. Patty, well done:) Tx also to Jan - Henry and pe-o as well as the organicers by the turney and BBO.|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|c6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|c7|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hT|nt|Vugraphzfc: There will be a SHORT break after this board while players compare, but as they are over their allotted time, they will re-seat quickly|pg||
nt|peachy: R Oops, I guess it would have been good, got theteams backward|pg||
nt|peachy: sry all prv|pg||
nt|imp_jan: get a lot of chats by kibs who explain me how to defend this, but remember at the table all is diff, dont forget, ew r world champs|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c16|st||md|2S74HAQT86DK83CQ83,ST65HJ42DQ9754CKT,SKQJ9832HKDATC765,SAH9753DJ62CAJ942|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: final board of the 3rd Quarter    anticipate  15 minute break before final set begins|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: last board.  thanks all for watching.  quarterfinals start tomorrow at 1pm EDT|pg||
nt|hedyg: they play variable 14-16 and 15-17|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Jan must have reconnected|pg||
nt|algraves: they play more like 13 to bad 16|pg||
nt|wstuart: An interesting consideration on these 3NT rebids is what opener's holding in responder's suit is - it's reasonable to define it as with showing 1 or less or 2 or more.|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: There are many slam hands where that is the crucial and hard to determine peice of information if you don't ahve a specific agreemnt.|pg||
nt|rhelle: very hard to see ... you see, even at this level they slip up in defence|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: but teams can agree to start earlier|pg||
nt|ritong: an other difficult decision|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok we have the scores now, great!|pg||
nt|algraves: versace right on the rule of 2 or 3|pg||
nt|hedyg: last board of this segment|pg||
nt|algraves: 7 tricks, no outside defense, classic|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: when raised, what to do?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 1pm EDT = 5pm GMT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@S easy  -- Moss 4@S probably easy too  since @Dxx|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we're actually ahead of other room now!!|pg||
mb|1N|an|F|nt|rhelle: 1@d = 11-15, 3+@d, unbalanced|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: this is a real chance for Fleisher|pg||
nt|dburn: five diamonds (even six diamonds) look vastly preferable to 3NT|pg||
nt|wstuart: Prob 2NT showing the str NT?|pg||
mb|3S|nt|ritong: enterprising 2@h|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the Open Room  Greco thought a long time before passing 3@S|pg||
nt|hedyg: short break and then 2nd segment|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: if in 4@S, i think declarer has a chance|pg||
nt|ahollan1: take the plus|pg||
nt|algraves: and lauria adds his three tricks and there you have it|pg||
nt|mdgraham: wot hapen there?|pg||
nt|wstuart: but Chip will likely just kick it in to 3NT knowing he is facing at least some @H wastage for a slam.|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he could bid 3@h, just to make sure|pg||
nt|wstuart: true, they still have chances here|pg||
mb|4S|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: good match, shakes hands with opps.  fred: good play cashing @SA|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: thsi must imply a @D fit.|pg||
nt|ritong: no tilt|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Stanby probably will bid 3S|pg||
nt|ritong: muller is a great player|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and quick refresh now shows Grue [original 21] beat Cayne [ 4]     Fleisher [7] over Nickell [2]|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i mentioned because South hand opposite a 14-16 NT improved during the auction|pg||
nt|dburn: well done Chip - knew you wouldn't let me down|pg||
nt|wstuart: I assume 3@C after 2NT would not have been forcing.|pg||
nt|chorush: I don't know enuf about their methods|pg||
nt|wstuart: Although, after a 2 level nerg DBL opposite a str NT it seems like it should be.|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@h looks like a make - especially with the @d Ace before the king|pg||
nt|rhelle: a game on pretty minimal values|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS play precision so 3@S weaker than playing 'standard'|pg||
pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: yes -- if EW negotiate @C ruff beat is easy|pg||
nt|rhelle: in the other room North opened 1NT - for reasons he better understand than I|pg||
nt|rhelle: and they made slam tried, all the way to 5@h :)|pg||
nt|rhelle: this was a very exciting set, been a long time since I saw so many swings|pg||
nt|rhelle: at this level, that is - my Monday night game produces them as well :)|pg||
pc|h8|nt|chorush: Katz is going to have a good idea what to lead if it plays here|pg||
nt|wstuart: Chip's sequence expresses doubt about 3NT and Lew's stopper is surely about as weak as they come.|pg||
nt|dburn: indeed - he cant pass, can he?|pg||
nt|lc: I always tell my students : "Don't lay down"  or "underlead" aces.  I hope they don't see this deal. :)|pg||
pc|h4|nt|algraves: now diamond and diamond will eventually beat it|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but in real world ...|pg||
nt|dburn: no, he can't|pg||
pc|dT|nt|lc: Of course, after @CA, @C, West would have to switch to SPADES -- not DIAMONDS to beat it.|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|nt|vugraphzfe: my computer is having some problem|pg||
nt|algraves: now Versace will have to guess TX in trumps to make|pg||
nt|hedyg: just a little bit more Liz! |pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|hedyg: so we will be back about 15 minutes after all finish|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry lag not responding|pg||
nt|algraves: pershaps south did overtake and it was missed by recorder|pg||
nt|hedyg: or he just misguessed|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: I tried to key it|pg||
nt|algraves: thrid diamond, and if neccessary 4th diamond promotes trump ten|pg||
nt|hedyg: np Liz, you didnt a good job! thanks @H|pg||
nt|hedyg: you did a good job* my keyboard too!|pg||
nt|algraves: even if south did not overtake it seems natural for West to misguess the third diamond after south wins trump ace|pg||
nt|sillafu: how can he misguess|pg||
nt|hedyg: Liz it is minus 1 for sure?|pg||
nt|hedyg: the result of -1 confirmed|pg||
nt|wstuart: Now they need to not overstate their values.|pg||
nt|wstuart: VWD for Martel-Stansby!|pg||
nt|wstuart: There is a reason they have won so many championships.|pg||
pc|hA|nt|chorush: looks like this one can't be beaten|pg||
nt|wstuart: (VWD = very well done)|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: Diamond also in 4@S on  14   but Stansby never bid with North hand|pg||
pc|c5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|c6|pc|h7|pg||
nt|ritong: wow|pg||
pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: Deutsch [original  16]  dethrones the defenders Monaco   152-91|pg||
nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg||
nt|ritong: see you to morrow|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ok, we're done, see you tomorrow|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg||
nt|ritong: see you all to morrow for further adventures|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|h9|pg||
nt|rhelle: anyway .. thank you all for watching some exciting and great bridge|pg||
mc|11|nt|ritong: merci a tous   see you soon|pg||
nt|ahollan1: they finished all boards!!   that was far from automatic 25 minutes ago|pg||
nt|ahollan1:  15 minute break after other room finishes|pg||
nt|chorush: actually "only" 20 minutes late|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 2 minutes late|pg||
nt|chorush: with screens they allow about 2:15 for 16 boards|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: right|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: all rooms will start at the same time, with duplicated hands|pg||
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