vg|2011 Vanderbilt Semi B,3rd of 4,I,1,16,Fleisher,85,Diamond,70|
rs|4SN=,4NS+2,3NN-3,3NN-1,3NW-1,3NW-1,1NW-2,2DW=,3NW=,3NW-1,6SN-1,6SN=,3SW-1,3SW-1,4SN=,2SS+2,5DS=,3NN+2,4SS=,3NN-1,3NS+2,4HN+1,3SW+1,4SWx=,3NN+2,3NN+2,2SS+1,4HW=,1NE=,1NE+2,4CW-1,3NE=|
pn|Fleisher,Gitelman,Kamil,Moss,GRECO,STANSBY,HAMPSON,MARTEL|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SJ2HKQJT74DAJ4CQ5,S987H8653DQT82CAT,SAKQ43HDK976CKJ73,ST65HA92D53C98642|sv|o|nt|lc: Most pros sit out one quarter and play only 48 boards a day.|pg||
nt|lc: Looks like 3NT or 4@H for N-S -- they just have to not get too high.|pg||
nt|lc: 1@S-2@H start.|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|lc: Then, North's rebid is a matter of system style.|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|nt|lc: Some pairs play that a 2@S bid promises 6 cards.|pg||
nt|lc: Others play it as the "default" rebid on awkward hands.|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S!|nt|lc: If 2@S "promised 6," Fleisher might consider something other than 3@H.|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: Presumably, it did "show" 6 and this is fast arrival (weakest bid).|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: So, I suggest 4@H or 3NT -- and they have to go and play the 5-2 @S fit.|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
nt|chorush: I think 4 spades is a bit precipitous even if 6 promised|pg||
nt|jstokes: lol -- it certainly would be a worse team than last yr|pg||
nt|jstokes: sorry|pg||
nt|lc: I don't know if he had 3@H available as forcing.  Some pairs play 2@H then 3@H NF.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
nt|chorush: That would make a difference for sure. |pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|h4|pc|s9|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dJ|nt|lc: With the @D10 dislodged, South can see 10 easy tricks without worrying about using dummy's hearts.|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|h9|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hK|nt|lc: Of course, at matchpoints, this would be a much more complex hand as to trying for an overtrick.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s4|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3SJ2HKQJT74DAJ4CQ5,S987H8653DQT82CAT,SAKQ43HDK976CKJ73,ST65HA92D53C98642|sv|o|nt|yuval10: very close match so far|pg||
nt|brolucius: I heard about a great defense from Zia this morning. His partner, who had opened 4H led the @HA against a slam. Dummy went down with a singleton and Zia false-carded the @HK from ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: @HK-x. Declarer ruffed the next round high from A-K-Q-x and Zia's J-x-x in trumps was promoted. Brilliant!|pg||
nt|sybarra: not showing my age, just showing my knowledge of old movies|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Cayne match also exchanged about 100 imps last set for a negligible change in the match|pg||
nt|ritong: soooo...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other rooms are visible via http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
nt|ritong: apparently needs a @c lead to beat 4@s|pg||
nt|ahollan1: convention cards from 2010 team trials online for both teams|pg||
nt|ahollan1: fleisher:  http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=659&Itemid=284|pg||
mb|1C!|an|16+|mb|p|nt|hedyg: eventually the scores from all matches will show here : http://www.bridgewinners.com/round-of-8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3rd Quarter results at  http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-8|pg||
nt|sybarra: you must open a brouser for each room  |pg||
nt|ahollan1: diamond:  http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=656&Itemid=284|pg||
nt|harmon: 16+\|pg||
nt|harmon: But Im glad Walter here, he knows system much better than I|pg||
mb|1N!|an|12+ hcp 5+ !h|nt|yuval10: already some excitement, 6@d was made in the OR|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: some commotion as other tables restart|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Moss still studying.  deck may seem to have too many points in it|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hamman had only a sevn-card suit but it might easily have been 8-card.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: convention cards from 2010 Team Trials online for both teams|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann asks about 4D.  Gitelman writes: "I think splinter"|pg||
nt|harmon: Hi all|pg||
nt|harmon: Team captain here so iahve to behave:)|pg||
nt|rhelle: hello everyone|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=659&Itemid=284|pg||
mb|2S|nt|yuval10: 5NT is interesting, of course in standart bridge it means to pick between 6 or 7, but it doesn't seem likely considering West' strength|pg||
nt|dburn: I guess North might bid 4NT|pg||
nt|brolucius: West leaps to 4@S rather than tip his hand with a cue-bid response. Interesting. He makes life more difficult for N/S that way.|pg||
nt|dburn: intending to convert clubs to diamonds to show 6-4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=656&Itemid=284|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: with 5-5, he would bid diamonds at once|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=0-8 HCP  or  9+ with no more than 1 King|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nah  this is RM Lite version -- he's FULL RM savant|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1NT shows 12+ W/5+@h|pg||
nt|harmon: I assume 1n some GF|pg||
mb|3H|nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann exhales deeply. looks tired|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: NS play a version of Precision   EW 2/1 with lots of special agreements|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ HCP  unbal  17+ bal|pg||
nt|harmon: see|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 12+ HCP, 5+@H|pg||
mb|3N|nt|rhelle: 1NT by North is normally 12.5 - 15|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: green cards placed delicately on the tray|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar sees them when the tray comes back, puts his cards down and his hands to his temples|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: nice easy board to start the set|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar leans back, crosses his legs, still thinking|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is great to see the top stars bid these competitive deals - a very difficult area for most of us.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Grue's strength limited by failure to open Precision @C|pg||
nt|ritong: and leading a @c from Jx is highly unlikely|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other tables visibe using http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW play what Kokish calls  "somewhat timid kaplan-sheinwold"   weak NT except  3rd seat vul|pg||
nt|dburn: strong club, heart positive with extras, three natural bids...|pg||
nt|dburn: ...and a difficult call for Greco|pg||
mb|4C|nt|vugraphzfe: fingering @DA and @DQ|pg||
nt|ritong: +|pg||
nt|dburn: as it is, diamonds may play better than hearts|pg||
nt|dburn: this probably isn't the real auction|pg||
nt|rhelle: I have no idea what is going on - looks like a transcription error|pg||
nt|sybarra: good flop as Henri says?|pg||
nt|ritong: especially with a potential trump trick|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW leads/carding  3rd/5th vs suit  4th vs NT    upside-down count & attitude|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm pretty sure both matches playing the same boards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H = any 8-11, FG|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other rooms are visible via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  [one window per table]|pg||
nt|ahollan1: psychic cue??|pg||
nt|dburn: not sure - looks that way|pg||
nt|bigtrain: probably strong @H rebid|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "sorry if this was wrong"|pg||
nt|harmon: yes|pg||
nt|dburn: but if North passed, it would be|pg||
nt|ahollan1: from 2010 Trials   http://usbf.org/docs/2010usbc/acblcards/DiamondPlatnick.jpg|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'll give link for EW as soon as they're identified :)|pg||
mb|4H|nt|yuval10: 6@d actually a lot better than 6NT, you can make it even when the K@h is off ( playing small @s from hand towards the Q, then if south doesn't jump you discard the K@s over the 4th ...|pg||
nt|yuval10: @c and if he does you can discard 2 @h's )|pg||
nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/lauria-versace.pdf|pg||
nt|dburn: but both contracts have issues of trump control|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Lauria is asking about 4nt|pg||
nt|hedyg: to watch multiple tables: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|dburn: not Blackwood|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi Liz :)|pg||
nt|rhelle: I think NS are in 2@d|pg||
nt|harmon: 4d probably says I like from previous bidding 4h says I hate it|pg||
nt|dburn: would like to bid Blackwood for hearts, but not sure how he can organise this|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: @h now|pg||
mb|4N|nt|chorush: Hello everyone|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe this way|pg||
nt|dburn: 4NT over 3NT would sound natural|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: he needs an entry to his partners hand to beat this|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW CC  http://usbf.org/docs/2010usbc/acblcards/LevinWeinstein.gif|pg||
nt|dinos1: 1@h - 8-11, any shape?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i wonder if 5@S showed specifically @S & @C|pg||
nt|dinos1: mb 4@s4m?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well actually it does NOT include 8+ HCP, 5+@S  [1@S]   all other positive responses to 1@C show 12+ HCP|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Score not correct,  real score is 41-25|pg||
nt|dinos1: but 3N showed NT hand|pg||
nt|harmon: 5 is in danger on Ace of clubs lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kamil in 4@S North|pg||
nt|dburn: Hampson may have to pass here just to get a plus, but I don't see how he can|pg||
nt|dburn: Kamil and Fleisher actually did remarkably well|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: being one tempo ahead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW upside-down Attitude, standard Count    NS  standard count & attitude|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other rooms visible via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
nt|ahollan1: both matches playing the same boards|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: no he doest|pg||
nt|hedyg: doesnt|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he has three top tricks - the club ruff is for down two|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes|pg||
nt|dburn: although I guess that after the ruff, Grue can pick up the hearts|pg||
nt|sybarra: not sure he can handle it all|pg||
nt|ritong: he can|pg||
nt|ritong: fred has two @cs|pg||
nt|dburn: and so did Hampson|pg||
pc|d2|nt|Jacki: welcome Ira chorush|pg||
pc|d6|nt|brolucius: Spade switch is clear, but West can give a suit preference card anyway.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pg||
nt|yuval10: here you have to rely on the @h finesse, but it worked so 2 imps for diamond |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Moss that 5N was pick a slam,  Gitelman thought it was choose 6 or 7|pg||
nt|yuval10: hi Joanna, thanks |pg||
pc|s3|nt|chorush: This is an agressive 6 spade contract which might make on a good day, which this is not|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sJ|nt|dburn: whether he will or not is another matter|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|c3|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ritong: it was not, as 5@d is a make|pg||
pc|dA|nt|dburn: if he ran the jack of hearts and lost to a stiff queen, he would go down an awful lot|pg||
nt|ritong: hi there|pg||
nt|dinos1: hi Henri|pg||
nt|ritong: we have some technical problem|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other match  Grue 57  Kang 35|pg||
nt|ritong: operator, can you pls enter pass out for every unplayed hand?|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d7|pg||
nt|ritong: then replace with actual results|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|nt|ritong: hello everybody|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is 2nd of 4 16-board segments for the Vanderbilt Cup Semi-Finals|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h2|pg||
nt|ritong: it is doubtful @c lead will be found next room, so expected push|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|harmon: winning 2imps in the process|pg||
mc|12|nt|ahollan1: Levin-Weinstein  upside-down Attitude  standard Count|pg||
nt|ahollan1: tomorrow is 64 board championship match|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think this auction much more thoughtful than the other room|pg||
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qx|o2|st||md|4ST95H962DKQ986C74,S72HQ43DAJCQJT982,SAKJHAT85D42CAK65,SQ8643HKJ7DT753C3|sv|n|nt|lc: Most viewers will know Git-Mo.   Kamil -Fleisher, for those who don't know are 2 of THE NICEST bridge players you'd ever want to know.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|chorush: Not only that, they play awfully well as well|pg||
nt|lc: Indeed.|pg||
mb|3C|nt|lc: What fun thing can Gitelman do 3rd seat fav?|pg||
mb|3N|nt|lc: 3@C would be my style.  This pair likes 1NT in this position.|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Kamil has a choice of dbl or 3NT|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|nt|lc: Normal 3NT by Kamil -- as Double wouldn't really do as good a job describing his hand.|pg||
nt|lc: it's amazing the range of hands on which you overcall a 3-level preempt with 3NT.|pg||
nt|lc: He hasn't bought a good dummy at all -- can't see him doing very well.|pg||
nt|poohbear: why not dbl and over a non 3H response bid 3nt?|pg||
nt|ritong: 0.|pg||
nt|lc: Still, is is a "normal" contract, likely to be reached in the other room.|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cA|nt|lc: Gitelman has interesting guess in diamonds.  Holdup on 1st round is needed if declarer has @D10x.|pg||
pc|s4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d4|nt|lc: So, when a diamond comes to the @DK, let's see what Gitelman does.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|lc: Presumably the @D3 was a count card.  U.D., I suppose.|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c6|nt|lc: Gitelman will be happy when declarer does not turn up with @D10x.  I suppose if declarer had @D10xxx, winning the first one was best (to give a later guess).|pg||
nt|chorush: Kamil knows that Moss has length in the other 3 suits and is trying to make him decide what  to discar|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h2|pg||
nt|lc: That discard was easier than the next one will be.  But, really, East can afford a @D, since if declarer has 3 diamonds, nothing matters.|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|d5|pc|s5|pg||
nt|lc: Well, we talked about N-S.  West, well-known to most viewers is the founder of BBO.  East -- last year's Player of the Year.|pg||
nt|lc: There's that "safe" @D play -- can't hurt.|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d6|nt|chorush: this sort of squeezes declarer|pg||
nt|lc: Sort of.  But if declarer throws @SJ, Moss won't be able to safely play a @S.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|hT|pg||
nt|lc: He might think he is giving dummy an entry in @S.|pg||
nt|lc: All this work now for 200 or 300.|pg||
nt|chorush: If he exits with the heart K, declarer will be held to 3 tricks|pg||
nt|ritong: on the other hand, declarer was in dummy and did not try @s 10 he would do that with AKJx presumably|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h3|nt|chorush: wd by Moss|pg||
nt|lc: Well done by Moss -- the best of all worlds there.|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|sK|mc|6|pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4ST95H962DKQ986C74,S72HQ43DAJCQJT982,SAKJHAT85D42CAK65,SQ8643HKJ7DT753C3|sv|n|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "good pass of 5@C"|pg||
nt|ritong: and an other strret fight coming|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman: "I have to admit it occurred to me you were psyching there"|pg||
nt|hedyg: picked up the Q@H?|pg||
nt|dburn: but judging by that, he did well|pg||
nt|brolucius: A splendid opening board for us.|pg||
nt|wstuart: Hi all.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry i just walked in and I'm afraid I missed the auction|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: we lost our connection|pg||
nt|ritong: and we start with slammy hands|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the match ends with board 64 [unless tie]  winners play in Semi-Finals tomorrow   losers  maybe watch vugraph|pg||
nt|ritong: previous set was WoW about these|pg||
nt|ahollan1: welcome a well rested Henri|pg||
nt|ahollan1: seems to me Kamil-Fleisher lucky that there was no slam|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: hi Wayne|pg||
nt|ritong: interesting hand, regarding style|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2010 Trials Convention cards online for both teams|pg||
nt|ahollan1: IFF that really was the auction|pg||
nt|dburn: I doubt the other room really had that auction - the operator may have been catching up somehow|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: NS in the OR judged very well to bid to the 5 level|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW 1N=good 14 to 17|pg||
nt|sybarra: transfer to @D and 3 nt?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think they play   3@C=@D  [weak or FG]|pg||
nt|ritong: i do not think brad will content himself with that, shirley|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well Shirley's sequence should be mild slam try  otherwise just 1N-3N|pg||
nt|sybarra: matter of agreements re the transfer sequence|pg||
nt|ritong: there are other considerations|pg||
nt|sybarra: or another sequence maybe be game force stayman...and..|pg||
nt|ritong: one is moss' hand is really good and justifies more than a mild try|pg||
nt|ritong: an other is, when you transfer for @ds and bid 3NT afterwards, there must be a reason  for us, it shows @c shortness|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other room has already crashed once -- are we in holding pattern because of connection or is Brad in the tank?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Diamond  http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=656&Itemid=284|pg||
mb|3C|nt|dburn: don't worry - the play is not likely to be too fast for you to keep up with from now on|pg||
nt|sybarra: this is on page 240 of the system notes right? |pg||
nt|ritong: not really|pg||
nt|sybarra: or maybe 142|pg||
nt|ritong: will levin repeat @ds or raise @hs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Fleisher  http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=659&Itemid=284|pg||
mb|d|nt|brolucius: We are all indebted to BBO for letting us watch these top tournaments free of charge. I hope they don't change their mind one day...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @H|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: EW put maximum pressure over South|pg||
nt|hedyg: shhhhhhh! dont give them ideas!|pg||
nt|wstuart: Have Chips and Lew changed to a str NT vul?|pg||
nt|wstuart: *Chip|pg||
nt|chorush: yes|pg||
nt|007 joosth: always thinking  about chips?  :)|pg||
mb|3D|nt|yuval10: but it seem as if he has a 5@h now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: anyone believe that was a typo??|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 1@c= 2+|pg||
nt|brolucius: I will still be free for commentators, Hedy. No need to worry.|pg||
nt|chorush: that dbl has just transformed this hand from something resembling a push to a swing for Nickell|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: chip wrote 12-14|pg||
nt|wstuart: He wrote 12-14 on the notepad the operator says.  This is very un-Chip-like.  He's a very aggressive player and I wouldn't expect him to downgrade a controlish 15 HCP, even though ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: it is 4333.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: well at least im here now for the auction|pg||
nt|ritong: naturally so:)|pg||
nt|harmon: Yes it showed fleischer opened 7h in the third quarter thot was agressive|pg||
mb|3N|nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|rhelle: 6@c looks like a decent contract - not easy to bid though|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ahh  4@H Ace Ask   taking control|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: a short fight, finally|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss grimaces a bit, points at dummy, still making plans|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i should say Key Card Ask      5@C=2 without Q|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: shorter than next room, where EW pushed a bit|pg||
nt|chorush: It may only be 3rd 4th position vul|pg||
pc|c3|nt|yuval10: South must've been convinced that his Partner has void @s|pg||
nt|wstuart: At one time they played 12-14 in all seats *except* 3rd, where it was 15-17.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i wonder if non-imp scoring would change Levin's choice of rebid|pg||
nt|dburn: this may not get a "thank you partner"|pg||
pc|c4|nt|yuval10: on surface it looks like N's double meant to discourage his Partner of carry on|pg||
nt|brolucius: Although if the kibitzers had to pay they would probably be less tolerant of the mistakes that the commentators make.|pg||
nt|dburn: optimistic, that - should South really have both majors stopped and the ace of clubs?|pg||
pc|c8|nt|ritong: well|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=14-16   not sure what 3@S is  AFTER the super-accept|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1st leader change of the set  --  how many more will we see?|pg||
nt|dburn: still, there wasn't much North-South could really do|pg||
pc|d4|nt|dburn: still, this lead may let him escape for down only one|pg||
nt|007 joosth: the result is an impossible 3NT in the wrong hand|pg||
nt|harmon: timely 3c bid|pg||
pc|d3|nt|vugraphzfe: some question whether the 84-44 carryover is correct|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol no Liz|pg||
nt|brolucius: This is E/W bidding.|pg||
nt|dburn: he won't make it with these cards, but maybe has more chance on the actual borad 3|pg||
nt|dburn: no, this is North-South bidding - they're just not bidding board 2 again|pg||
nt|harmon: theyve crossed rooms|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: we got disconnected sorry|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|vugraphzfe: moss:"just to show off"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is 1st of 4 16-board quarters for the Semi-Finals of the Vanderbilt Cup|pg||
nt|ahollan1: short break between sets 1&2  3&4   long break at the half|pg||
nt|ahollan1: actually raise on 3 is more appealling with WEAKER trump|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with strong trump ruffing risk is that declarer might have very weak holding to cover opponent's trump|pg||
nt|ahollan1: remember -- modern game bids 1M with suit of 5432|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in old days the response of 1Major required some suit quality  but  now we be with xxxx  [5432]|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: EW carding  upside-down count & attitude   Modified Smith vs NT|pg||
pc|s6|pc|c7|pg||
nt|chorush: yes, and a fat 13 imps to Nickell|pg||
pc|d2|nt|ritong: levin should hold this to down one|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ahollan1: underbid|pg||
nt|ritong: i won t have time to develop about the transfer sequel|pg||
nt|sybarra: hate to be critical, but perhaps it was "lazy" bidding at other table|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|wstuart: No real problems discarding with Katz's hand.  Martel is hoping for a miracle, but it doesn't appear to be a religious holiday for him.|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: i'm told there was webcam yesterday -- if anyone knows about coverage for today -- please send the URL and i'll announce to the room|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Greco shakes his head (behind screen) when @C ruffed|pg||
nt|ritong: 9 and 10 of @d indicate doubleton|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Levin asks about Q lead|pg||
nt|ritong: hampson would play jack from J109|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: promises J or shortness|pg||
nt|ritong: and low at some point from 109x|pg||
pc|h4|nt|hedyg: A@S?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Even if one of the majors was bare, West might have made an unlucky choice of lead. It was adventurous bidding by N/S that could have worked better.|pg||
nt|dburn: true, and I guess if South had a couple of aces, the unstopped major might well be 4-4 anyway|pg||
nt|brolucius: Good point.|pg||
nt|dburn: downgrade previous comment to "mildly optimisitic"|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|ritong: was worth 4NT imho|pg||
nt|ahollan1: both pairs use Rusinow Leads  [2nd of touching honors]  but only versus NT|pg||
pc|h8|nt|sybarra: agree Henri |pg||
nt|sybarra: something more that 3 nt |pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think Bertens-Bakkeren 1N opener can be half point less at the top -- but still|pg||
nt|sybarra: maybe even 3 @H cue?|pg||
nt|ritong: now, the fact that opener denied interest with 3@d enters the pic|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kamil bid 3N directly over 3@C|pg||
nt|dburn: Martel may have to give North a spade trick sometime, but that's not nearly enough for Hampson|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right  seems Chip has many choices of play for down 2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: of course he doesn't know that Lew holds @HQ|pg||
nt|dburn: well, at some point he may have to throw @hK under the ace to achieve down two|pg||
nt|dburn: and he may be reluctant to do that|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Martel also doesn't know that dummy's @S aren't a threat|pg||
nt|ahollan1: example  give declarer @SAKJx|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ritong: bertens decided slam was at best on a finesse, likely|pg||
nt|ahollan1: when transfer is any strength, rebid of 3@H/@S usually shows shortness|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|hedyg: so he did play the A@S|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now he knows|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the @HK unblock gets easier now|pg||
nt|dburn: if dummy's spades were a potential entry, Hampson might have cleared the diamonds|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|nt|sybarra: cant Berten's make the cue in @H? |pg||
nt|sybarra: (other room)|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ritong: it probably shows a shortness, either in @h or @s,according to agreement|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|nt|harmon: excellent result|pg||
nt|rhelle: Yes, well bid|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s7|pg||
nt|ritong: it comes from the fact that stayman was not used|pg||
nt|jstokes: hey frank -- i'm at the airport going home -- what r u up to?|pg||
pc|sK|nt|passell: they went very low in the other room|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|nt|ritong: and thus, responder does not hold a 4M|pg||
nt|ritong: so bobby reads the position correctly and avoids getting tapped|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well played by Hampson|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|dburn: still, what with Kamil going down three at the other table, this will be a sizeable pickup for Diamond|pg||
mc|8|nt|ahollan1: i wonder if direct 3N would have changed level of difficulty for Martel|pg||
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qx|o3|st||md|1SJ843HQ92DJ7C6432,SAT75HAK7D63CAK87,SQ2HJT84DKQ85CQJ9,SK96H653DAT942CT5|sv|e|nt|chorush: so the preempt did its dirty work|pg||
nt|lc: Although they might have reached 3NT anyway with 24 HCP.|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: Here, a routine 3NT E-W, you would think.|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|lc: The play could be interesting in 3NT --  the spots in both black suits come into play.|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|lc: Declarer will likely go after @D and not be pleased.|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|nt|lc: Note the 2NT rebid as opposed to 1@S.  I think most players would choose to show the 18-19 balanced and not worry about the major (because East's 1@D is usually no major -- or he ...|pg||
nt|lc: will show one later if need be).|pg||
pc|h3|nt|lc: We can see that the black suits can provide 3 tricks each + @HAK + @DA, but declarer not likely to embark on that kind of line.|pg||
pc|h9|nt|lc: Playing for @D to come in for 3 tricks to go with AK-AK-AK looks more natural.|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|lc: So, I am prediciting he will play a @D.|pg||
pc|d6|nt|lc: And go down.|pg||
pc|d5|nt|lc: Now more @H, then more @D -- and then it will be too late to set up those black winners.|pg||
nt|lc: Fred has to think: "If 3-3 @D, my play now doesn't matter."  So, what if 4-2.|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|lc: If 4-2 -- and South has  @DKQ  @DKJ or !QJ doubleton, he doesn't want to waste the 10 or 9.|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|nt|lc: He was willing to pay off to !KQJx(x) with North.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d8|nt|lc: Note Kamil not splitting his @D  :)|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|dT|nt|lc: Now comes the bad news for declarer.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h8|nt|lc: Will Kamil just cash out for -1?  I think so.|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg||
nt|lc: Too much stress to not cash out -- in case declarer has @SAJ10x.|pg||
nt|lc: That would give declarer 19 points -- and maybe he still would have played this way -- so I will be real surprised if the @DK doesn't get played soon.|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg||
nt|lc: Hmmm.|pg||
nt|ritong: gutsy|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s9|nt|lc: Let's check this again.  What if declarer had @SAJ10x  @HAKx  @Dxx @CAKxx.  How would he play?|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|d4|pg||
nt|ritong: for the drop, since he would need four @s tricks|pg||
nt|lc: He would maybe combine his chances better and not play @D all out and give up on his @S chance.|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c3|st||md|1SJ843HQ92DJ7C6432,SAT75HAK7D63CAK87,SQ2HJT84DKQ85CQJ9,SK96H653DAT942CT5|sv|e|nt|vugraphzfe: moss very chatty.  asks whether @CT was suit pref|pg||
nt|ferlema: ok|pg||
nt|wstuart: I would not have opened 1@H, either, unless in the context of a strong @C system.|pg||
nt|passell: 15 and a good 6 card suit seems too much to make a light invitation|pg||
nt|ritong: hi mike welcome|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Every conventional use of a bid has some downside. Stayman, probably the most uniformly played convention of all time, had a big downside on this hand|pg||
nt|ritong: yes we agreed on that point|pg||
nt|passell: hi   this is quite a match|pg||
nt|ritong: sure enough!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H limited by failure to open 1@C  -- and could be 5@H & 5@S|pg||
nt|passell: congrats to the Berg teams great performance througout this event|pg||
nt|passell: they were way to tough for me yesterday|pg||
nt|ahollan1: last set was exactly 100 imps exchanged for net difference of about 6|pg||
nt|sybarra: we just threw the imps in the air|pg||
mb|1C|nt|sybarra: and they landed....|pg||
nt|dburn: weak no trump for East-West|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|wstuart: So, I tihnk their NT in 3rd seat white is 12-14 (15-17 vul 4rd only).|pg||
nt|ritong: might need an other coffee:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Bertens overcalled 1N rather than Moss' DBL   looks close to me|pg||
nt|harmon: Stansby mightve returned the 8 of clubs when in help Stansby a bit|pg||
nt|dburn: so 1@c for Stansby|pg||
mb|2N|nt|wstuart: I'm sure Stansby will upgrade this hand to a 15-17 NT evaluation.|pg||
nt|chorush: you are probably correct Wayne|pg||
nt|ahollan1: historically   that is really 14+ to 17|pg||
nt|ritong: @s 7 comes from three small, when north would not lead from KJ7 here|pg||
nt|ritong: so greco will duck twice|pg||
nt|ritong: keeping his precious 10|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: kibitzer sits behind brad.  our first as opposed to the mob hovering at the zia-hamman table|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@s = @h, 9+, unbalanced|pg||
mb|3N|nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman, after sitting still for a minute, grabs the pass card off his tray|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1NT = relay|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@c = 4+@c|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: he had no real reason to get involved here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ok -- i'm sure i would have bid 1N at the table|pg||
nt|ritong: and other potential swing|pg||
nt|passell: sorry i had to miss the last quarter|pg||
nt|ritong: gee|pg||
nt|dburn: sorry - he'd have done that anyway with 18|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: a strong @c?|pg||
nt|dburn: by the look of things|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@d = relay|pg||
nt|sybarra: this may not be a success|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i wonder if DBL by Fred would absolutely deny 4@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on previous board   Diamond-Platnick play a Big Club [very similar to Greco-Hampson version of RM Lite]|pg||
mb|p|nt|passell: this may actually make |pg||
nt|ahollan1: but he can't really risk hearing @D from partner|pg||
nt|sybarra: actually looking again,  it just might make|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and 1@D tends to deny 4-card major|pg||
pc|hT|nt|harmon: err Martel|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: bottom of touching H|pg||
nt|dburn: this isn't straightforward - he can probably make it, with this rather favourable club layout, but he will have to work hard|pg||
nt|ahollan1: upside-down count & attitude for NS   their CC doesn't mention Smith  that's a bit of a surprise|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: no smith for NS, this was asked this afternoon|pg||
pc|h3|nt|harmon: another 6c hand|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@s = at least 55 in @h and @c|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2NT = relay|pg||
nt|ritong: how would you proceed?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so they had toy for East to show ALL of   Good Hand [for non-1@C], 6@D, 3@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Diamond in 3@H West|pg||
pc|h2|nt|rhelle: 3@s = eaxctly 3=5=0=3|pg||
nt|passell: will take careful defense|pg||
nt|ahollan1: because of room crashes  some bidding in movie may be operator shortcut trying to catch up|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks John|pg||
pc|h4|nt|007 joosth: a hard job to do|pg||
nt|wstuart: Let me type tihs more accurately**So, I think their NT in 3rd seat white is 12-14 (15-17 vul 3rd only).|pg||
pc|h5|nt|wstuart: 2@D was GF checkback, I assume.|pg||
nt|chorush: Specs are asking why Stansby would upgrade his hand. the reason is the good 5 card suit mostly|pg||
nt|wstuart: The very fine controls are another reason.|pg||
nt|wstuart: I more true method than the A=4, K=3, Q=2, etc evaluation is to count Aces as 4.5, kings as 3 and Q and J as a little less than the Goren HCP representatoin.|pg||
nt|chorush: There is no obvious eighth trick here much less a ninth, so Meckwell did well to make 2NT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: claim -- let opponents figure it out|pg||
nt|ritong: the @c stack is hidden|pg||
nt|ritong: and south did not lead his singleton|pg||
nt|passell: yes club lead down for sure|pg||
nt|ritong: however, north might switch to a @c in order to open trick(s) before @ds are good|pg||
nt|passell: looks like a trick short|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: lacks a tempo|pg||
nt|sybarra: but a tap in the long trump hand  kills it doesnt it?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thru 53  Nickell 13-0 for the set  now leads Fleisher by 20|pg||
nt|ahollan1: some would say  the only true "precious" card is The Beer Card|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does anyone have the URL that explains details/history of Beer Card?|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|rhelle: 3NT is to play|pg||
nt|rhelle: maybe 6NT now?|pg||
nt|harmon: =h-5|pg||
nt|passell: then they have to be careful to play a trump next|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Diamond 1@D=10-15 HCP, 2+@D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other room  both pairs playing 2/1|pg||
nt|kit: hi everybody|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Fleisher-Kamil twist is 1@C=2+ and transfer responses|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hi Kit|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|d3|nt|yuval10: time to stop now|pg||
nt|algraves: hello|pg||
nt|brolucius: That lead would have paid off if East held a singleton club.|pg||
nt|rhelle: 17 opposite 16+ ... he won't stop under slam|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@c = 4 controls, 15+|pg||
nt|rhelle: (A=2 controls, K=1)|pg||
pc|d5|nt|passell: now duck a spade and trump back beats it|pg||
nt|ritong: i don t|pg||
pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: NS convention card from 2010 European Championship is online -- but it won't give you the details Rob is providing|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/netherlands/muller-dewijs.pdf|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: intra-finesse in @S seems reasonable   especially after learning about North's red suit length|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but that still isn't 9 tricks|pg||
pc|h9|nt|rhelle: 4@h shows a @h picture - can't have 3, he would have supported them earlier|pg||
nt|sybarra: now (single dummy) what do you do next with Fred's hand?|pg||
nt|dinos1: 8 tricks to lose, so -3|pg||
pc|hK|nt|ritong: pump trumps while keeping a policeman|pg||
nt|passell: down 1 unless heart now|pg||
nt|ritong: that s what he did|pg||
nt|ritong: and de wijs is smelling a trap|pg||
nt|passell: tied up again with 1 down|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm sure it started in some university|pg||
nt|santyclz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_card|pg||
nt|ritong: joe is super aware when things come to having a good drink with good friends|pg||
nt|ahollan1: joe stokes was a tad faster than Joe -- but he sent it to me :)|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|yuval10: this seem to have no play at all|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW convention card from 2010 Trials   http://usbf.org/docs/2010usbc/acblcards/GrecoHampson.jpg|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Gitelman in 1@SX East|pg||
nt|ahollan1: spy on other tables via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php    [one window per room]|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|wstuart: Aces and Kings gain power the more distributional the contract hands are, and aces and Kings combined with a 5 card suit for NT is a very big plus.|pg||
nt|rhelle: At first glance this looks as 1 of 2 finesses. 5@c tricks, 2@d, 1@h, 2@s = 10. An extra trick can be developed in @h or @s|pg||
nt|rhelle: so finding trick 12 is what it's all about - before giving away 2|pg||
nt|ritong: oy|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
nt|chorush: well, that got him up to 8|pg||
nt|dburn: no - he'll probably just play to split the diamonds|pg||
pc|h8|nt|vugraphzfe: had @H2 out but put it back|pg||
nt|passell: unreal|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: this is type of hand that shows weakness of double dummy software -- much more interesting when defense can't see the cards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Gitelman went down much faster|pg||
pc|c6|nt|wstuart: Specs ask if a 1NT rebid could conceal 1 or 2 4 card majors the way Martel-Stansby are playing, and I believe the answer is yes, they tend to rebid 1NT to show the Strong NT when ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: possible.|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|rhelle: this trick will not be what South was waiting for|pg||
nt|rhelle: Chances are that the @sQ is with West now - he can see 6@h and 2@c in East already|pg||
nt|harmon: needs more than that|pg||
nt|rhelle: So he needs a double squeeze - @s@d against West, @h@d against East. But he has no @d entry ...|pg||
nt|rhelle: Not enough entries to ruff the @ds high either|pg||
nt|rhelle: Looks like he'll need the double @s finesse against West|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c2|nt|vugraphzfe: fred: "don't worry about it"|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|harmon: no good either entriey prob|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Diamond will also open 1N  [14-16]|pg||
nt|ahollan1: he'd lost 5 tricks before taking his own 5th trick|pg||
pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: looks like both declarers might take 6 tricks|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|rhelle: not now, for sure|pg||
nt|dinos1: if ruff with 9 still -3|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: good read/discards from Steve Weinstein to minimize damage|pg||
pc|dA|pc|c4|nt|chorush: this looks like 5 imps to Nickell and a tied match|pg||
pc|c8|pc|d8|pg||
nt|dburn: no luck|pg||
pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: right  down 3 here|pg||
pc|s4|nt|dinos1: now N is endplayed|pg||
pc|sA|nt|yuval10: seem like the only possible line is to find an opp with KQ doubleton @c, or KX @c and catch him off guard for an endplay|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|s7|mc|8|nt|ahollan1: but sure did combine a lot of chances|pg||
nt|dburn: surprisingly, that club suit will produce three tricks around 25% of the time, if you start by running the ten|pg||
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qx|o4|st||md|2SAT76HQT87DJ8CQ62,SQ2HJ43DAQ7543CAT,SKJ53HK52DKTCJ987,S984HA96D962CK543|sv|b|nt|lc: Maybe he would have ducked 2 @D and then still had @S play in reserve.|pg||
nt|chorush: he might well have tried for 4 spades and 5 toppers with that. Higher odds than diamonds|pg||
nt|lc: Anyway -- too stressful for me -- I'd have cashed out  :)  Call me a wimp. :) :)|pg||
nt|chorush: Me 2|pg||
nt|gavin:  exactly, declarer would have ducked two rounds of diamonds, which to keep the illusion he probably should have in this case as well.  |pg||
nt|ritong: hiya gavin|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|gavin:  hi|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: Congrats to Gavin on his win in the 2-day Open Pairs!  Yeah  :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin:  thx :)|pg||
nt|lc: So, this is an off-shape off-strength 1NT.|pg||
pc|s3|nt|lc: This pair opens 1NT more than  most.|pg||
nt|lc: maybe somebody has one of those Kaplan or EEE -point evaluator things and can tell us what West's hand is worth.|pg||
pc|s4|nt|chorush: They have not found too many distributions that they don't like for NT|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
nt|lc: Of course, it has huge preemptive effect, but in this case leads to the wrong partial.|pg||
nt|ritong: it s worth a gitelmoss 1NT, i d say|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg||
nt|chorush: Well this one is worth a couple less than Fred was hoping for|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s9|nt|lc: A @D partial would be much cozier.|pg||
nt|lc: We might get to see a surround play soon.|pg||
pc|s7|nt|lc: South will win 4th spade and switch tot the @H10.|pg||
nt|chorush: Larry is talking about a lead of the heart 10|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|s5|nt|lc: The proper card to switch to in this layout.|pg||
pc|d2|nt|lc: But, will Fleisher know to play @H -- that is the question.|pg||
pc|sT|pc|h4|pg||
nt|lc: There wasn't anything Kamil could have told him so far in the carding -- he had to play his @S in that order.|pg||
nt|chorush: heart 10 is sort of a no lose play|pg||
nt|lc: But it might give away a tempo -- he doesn't know if partner has a good minor-sutio holding to attack.|pg||
nt|chorush: K+R says 13.45 according to specs|pg||
pc|hT|nt|lc: Surely, if he switches to @H, the 10 is the right play.  But waht if partner has, say @DK107x?|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|nt|lc: Well done by Fleisher -- now Gitelman has to hold up twice to hold it to down only 1.|pg||
nt|gavin:  if he is strictly guessing, this is much more enjoyable than a diamond shift|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|gavin:  there are flaws to playing a diamond when partner might think you have the ten|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|lc: Had Gitelman started with a normal 1@D, the auction could have gone 1@D-1NT-2@D -- likely played there for +90.|pg||
mc|5|pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2SAT76HQT87DJ8CQ62,SQ2HJ43DAQ7543CAT,SKJ53HK52DKTCJ987,S984HA96D962CK543|sv|b|nt|ritong: 13 comparisons left|pg||
nt|hedyg: Liz is catching up|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry we lost our connection|pg||
nt|passell: hard to imagine a layout that a trump back wasnt best |pg||
nt|dburn: but of course that's not enough, while a diamond break would have given him three of those and two of the others|pg||
mb|1D|nt|hedyg: of course when she got disconnected the players went on|pg||
nt|ritong: painful hand for the orange guys|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: time to get one or two solid shots for israeli pair|pg||
nt|chorush: These two teams have a lot of history in the past 2 years, mostly in the US Team Trials|pg||
mb|1N|nt|ritong: hi yuv hi all|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@h?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N Forcing|pg||
mb|p|nt|passell: moss gittleman are awesome with the momentum there way|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, brad adores to keep pressure on opps|pg||
nt|ritong: which explains a lot of his creations|pg||
mb|2D|nt|brolucius: Losing the connection is hardly your fault, Liz, unless you were unlucky where you spilt your coffee.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C game force  could be balanced with 2@C|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: last set we saw EW use  jumps to show mixed raise|pg||
nt|ritong: i mean, we all like to keep their heads under the water, of course|pg||
nt|dinos1: 4@s is -2 with 2 @c ruffs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW won't open 1N with as many non-traditional shapes as most other pairs in this event|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: salut Henri|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann makes a fist to show that 2@H is strong.  gitelman gently passes|pg||
nt|wstuart: Not looking good for 4@S here, though it is a fine contract.|pg||
nt|kit: on stiff ace of clubs lead vs. 4@S, suit-pref signal will be important|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and as mentioned  weak NT except for 3rd seat Vul|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: if Lew finesses he can make, but I doubt he will do that.|pg||
nt|wstuart: Maybe however.|pg||
nt|wstuart: Interesting choice here at T1|pg||
nt|wstuart: Nvm|pg||
nt|chorush: he is going to make 11 tricks whether he finesses or not, in my opinion|pg||
nt|wstuart: @H lead gives it away|pg||
nt|wstuart: I was looking at the play before I saw the @H lead.|pg||
nt|dinos1: @cA - SP for @d ...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: many pairs would say Weinstein auction shows 3@S rather than allowing 4|pg||
nt|dburn: Greco going quietly|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Greco passed kinda disgustedly|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|nt|vugraphzfe: :)|pg||
nt|ritong: but brad has a particular talent for that|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: interesting   i wonder if 2N was forcing  |pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|dburn: question of whether this goes down quickly or slowly, I guess|pg||
nt|chorush: Only way to have beaten this contract is with a club lead and a diamond ruff|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS  3rd/5th leads vs suit     EW 4th|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ritong: 2NT artif prolly any gf hand with no suitable rebid|pg||
nt|yuval10: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: a kind of gazzilli, just upscaled|pg||
nt|bg: letssee|pg||
nt|ritong: you think he should act?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: just the manner, softly placing the card on the tray|pg||
nt|dinos1: @c5 - @d SP|pg||
nt|ahollan1: identical auction in the other room  and quick @CA @D @C @D|pg||
pc|dT|nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar: not the worst|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: then asks who wants water; moss accepts|pg||
nt|rhelle: NS play reverse count and attitude - so the 4 is from an even number|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nope  just some tool for Weinstein to complete shape|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pg||
nt|dburn: a club lead would mean quickly, this means slowly - assuming the defense does nothing silly|pg||
nt|wstuart: Doesn't 3 rds of @C beat it too, Ira?|pg||
nt|dinos1: 6|pg||
nt|dinos1: good try to hide low @c's|pg||
nt|kit: Levin giving his own suit-preference signal with 6@C -- he wants the higher suit|pg||
nt|kit: 3 higher clubs, 2 lower, so Platnick should get it right|pg||
nt|dinos1: well if S has 532 then W has 4 clubs and bid 2N?|pg||
pc|cT|nt|ritong: so far eldad has shown a strong 2 in @hs with questionable suit quality|pg||
nt|yuval10: double-dummy 6@h looks quite fair, but not today|pg||
nt|ritong: 2NT is a kind of puppet, asking opener to come back to his opening suit|pg||
nt|ritong: unless ha has real good news|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|harmon: be nice to tavel tod but that has dangers|pg||
nt|harmon: we know its safe but......|pg||
nt|harmon: travel to a diamond|pg||
nt|harmon: I type like doo doo|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C mechanism to show weak 6-4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so sorry   3@C to show GAME FORCE 6-4|pg||
nt|drewsky: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: it seems that a top @c lead would be bad|pg||
nt|ritong: hiya drew|pg||
nt|drewsky: a direct 3@H or 3@S would have been 5-5 and 6-4 respectiuvely, and Non forcing|pg||
nt|drewsky: relay to major 5-5 and 6-4 forcing|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pull up a chair, and relax, this is going to be a long session|pg||
nt|ahollan1:  3  other room also 1N -200|pg||
pc|cK|nt|Jacki: did you use our payment screens?  b/c your deposit didn't go through.  The error message usually means a wrong card type (it's a drop down menu) or a wrong CVV number|pg||
nt|ritong: hmm|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Diamond stops in 2@S after  Platnick Semi-Force 1N|pg||
nt|ritong: weinstein has few options at that point|pg||
nt|ahollan1: interesting that Diamond did NOT show @H|pg||
nt|drewsky: A trump lead probably would have defeated this contract for sure.|pg||
nt|ritong: ya drew|pg||
nt|ritong: hampson considered his lead for a long time|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with @H strength trump sure seems like 1st or 2nd choice|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Weinstein "sorry"|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Levin pacing in empty room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Moss also tried @C6|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ritong: they did not want to try the coup three in a row  remained possible, though|pg||
nt|ritong: in this context, 3@c instead of 2NT would be forcing|pg||
nt|ritong: here, pachtmann had relatively good news|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman seems always in control, never on tilt, never in a hurry|pg||
nt|ritong: moss cares about the excited part|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|chorush: Eventually, declarer will lead a diamond toward the dummy and on the showout, will take 3 diamond tricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other match   Grue off to quick 25-0 lead after 3 boards|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|kit: what?|pg||
nt|dburn: Stansby can afford one diamond loser but not two, so adopts the best play for doing that|pg||
pc|c9|nt|ritong: with talent|pg||
pc|c4|nt|hedyg: he ruffed the queen? really?|pg||
nt|harmon: 6c hand was played from otherside and got a spade into the KJ made it easier I think|pg||
pc|c2|nt|wstuart: but still would lsoe 2@C, 1D and 1S?|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|dinos1: only 1 ruff?|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s3|nt|rhelle: that made it cold|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s6|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ritong: so, north had relatively good news, but not enough to make a move|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman gesturing like he's counting something out|pg||
pc|h7|nt|drewsky: Most would say that these 2 teams are BOTH considered 2 of the top 3 or 4 teams in the United States, so they BOTH want to beat the other so badly that they will take a long time ...|pg||
nt|drewsky: to complete this match.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: lurker check or is he really going to scrounge for extra trick|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|chorush: no diamond will be lost; delarer will pitch his two losing diamonds on the AK of hearts|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if memory serves  this is rematch of finals from 2010 Team Trials AND 2010 Spingold|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
mc|8|nt|bg: these club discards are risky if W swithches now it is not safe to set up hearts|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is the Rubber Match|pg||
nt|dburn: North onlly has the singleton @dK in the textbooks, but no harm in trying|pg||
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qx|o5|st||md|3S4HQ8765DQT52CKJ2,SQT3HKT9D84CQT974,SAK98765HJDJ973C3,SJ2HA432DAK6CA865|sv|n|nt|lc: Not a good set for playing notrump so far. :)|pg||
nt|ritong: but brad will try again on that one|pg||
mb|3S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|lc: 3NT or 4@C from West?|pg||
nt|ritong: and probably will succeed|pg||
mb|3N|nt|lc: I suspect 3N|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|nt|lc: Yes, this one looks like a make -- even with an unlikely @D lead.|pg||
nt|lc: So, in the @C suit, declarer will want to play in a way to keep North off lead...|pg||
nt|gavin:  note north's opening lead|pg||
nt|lc: But, will he really take 2 finesses into South?|pg||
nt|gavin:  with no outside entries |pg||
nt|gavin:  kamil leads low hoping that his partner has two spades and an entry|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|nt|gavin:  believing gitelman's 3nt bid to have a stopper|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
nt|lc: Well, North is hoping his partner has the 2 spades, of course -- right - as opposed to 7=2=2=2 around the table (which we have seen before).|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c4|nt|lc: Anyway, Gitelman doesn't think the 3@S opener also has the @CK, so he plays clubs correctly.|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|lc: On the previous deal, it indeed went 1@D-1N-2@D at the other table.|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|nt|gavin:  their other choice in the other room was a weak NT|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s6|nt|lc: For those who came late:  Levin-Weinstein are sitting out for the first time in several days -- they just needed a rest.  I don't blame them.|pg||
pc|c8|nt|gavin:  but that doesnt have the same preemptive effect|pg||
nt|lc: So Gavin -- thanks on behalf of all of us for putting up the quarter-by-quarter scores every day on bridgewinners.com -- very useful.  I wish ACBL had been doing that all along!|pg||
nt|lc: A main event with so much interest -- and it used to be "impossible" to get the scores.|pg||
nt|gavin:  yeah no problem, its definitely been a pleasure to take out my phone at dinner and check out the scores|pg||
nt|gavin:  im glad that we started doing it|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d7|pc|sJ|nt|gavin:  its actually quite a painfull job entering them in.  Phyllis Cheek, wife of Curtis playing in the other semi final was hard at work for the last 4 days|pg||
nt|lc: The Fleisher team has had a very tough draw to get to the semis.|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|chorush: By keeping that spade, Kamil has likely prevented Gitelman from finessing the heart 9|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|nt|lc: The other bracket "collapsed" a bit -- I think we have something like original  21 against original   41 in the other semi.|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s9|pg||
mc|9|nt|gavin:  These guys really play their best against good teams|pg||
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qx|c5|st||md|3S4HQ8765DQT52CKJ2,SQT3HKT9D84CQT974,SAK98765HJDJ973C3,SJ2HA432DAK6CA865|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: i spy on the other match [and our other room] via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
nt|ahollan1: one window per table|pg||
nt|ritong: two trump tricks with that J643 holding are really unlikely|pg||
nt|ritong: well next|pg||
nt|kit: that is silly -- partner must have stiff ace of clubs, and declarer must have ace of hearts|pg||
mb|3S|nt|hedyg: Liz is going to have a tough time if they play and claim so quickly|pg||
nt|chorush: Very friendly diamond layout for this slam, presuming it is reached|pg||
nt|chorush: I don't know their methods assuming there are methods for hands like these|pg||
nt|drewsky: Open 3@H or 4@H at these colors ? I would open 3@H, but I am conservative|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nice that system allowed 2@D rebid -- i thought original KS needed better hand for that|pg||
mb|d|nt|wstuart: True, though it doesn't really require a friendly layout to make.|pg||
nt|Jacki: Live streaming available here:   www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion  If anyone knows the names of the players at the table, share with us|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think Kantar created the convention where 3N showed solid MAJOR|pg||
nt|dburn: Gitelman did open 1NT at the other table - not sure what his range was for that|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: this one looks routine|pg||
nt|ritong: other room EW got offboard due to the systemic 2@c opening|pg||
nt|ritong: showing the equivalent of a very good weak 2 in @cs|pg||
nt|ritong: if you wonder how they treat very strong hands, big @c is the answer|pg||
nt|ritong: any 16+ hand is opened 1@c|pg||
nt|wstuart: There is a school of thought that one shouldn't Michaels with a 6 card Maj, however, I don't know if much analysis has been done on 7-5 bidding.  :)|pg||
nt|jillan:  looks liek Robert Levin|pg||
nt|sybarra: open a browser for each room you want to see|pg||
nt|ritong: moss will probably bid 4@s directly|pg||
nt|ritong: to me it is a textbook 3@h at unfav  but i am VERY conservative reg preempts|pg||
nt|jaapfr: half of the scoreboard keeps reading as a beercard since you started to talk about the beercard @D7|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|brolucius: The East hand is worth an extra point, with those controls and the five-card spades.|pg||
nt|brolucius: On the convention card that I am looking at, 2NT shows only 20-21. That's puzzling.|pg||
nt|dburn: Cheek may well lead a heart, which will work rather well for him|pg||
nt|hedyg: except the @s suit is not nice and stiff AK not great for NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: so he downgraded?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Top players rarely downgrade.|pg||
nt|ritong: after the raise, that is|pg||
nt|kit: interesting choice by Levin -- he figures he can bid 2@S later over red-suit competition|pg||
nt|ahollan1: good 14-17|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Mind you, they don't miscount very often either.|pg||
nt|hedyg: i have 20-21(22) may have a 5 card major|pg||
nt|wstuart: As you can see from the 3@S bid - Martel is a very aggressive player, which is why I was surprised when he downgraded a control righ 15 HCP to a 12-14 NT.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Moss did bid 1@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|jillan:  and can't miss Meckstroth....|pg||
nt|robbg:  Weinstein (r) meck (l) with backs to us|pg||
nt|chorush: I would think Katz would close the bidding with 6 hearts here, unless he thinks he has a good way to get to 7 if it is there|pg||
nt|robbg:  Levin facing|pg||
nt|rhelle: systematically, NS have to open 1@h with 55 majors|pg||
nt|dburn: but whatever it was, he went down two in it, so a swing to Fleisher|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|dburn: a diamond wn't work so well|pg||
nt|algraves: hello everyone|pg||
nt|dburn: normal 3@s opening, but it has the effect of pushing East-West into a game they would not have bid left to their own devices|pg||
nt|ahollan1: interesting options for Stansby because of transportation issues|pg||
nt|ahollan1: has to start with -- is @HJ rusinow showing Q  or a shortness shot|pg||
nt|dburn: still, there are those who would open 4@s even at this vulnerability; Fleisher needs to hope that Kamil isn't one of them|pg||
nt|ahollan1: same auction in other room   Kamil led @Sx|pg||
pc|h2|nt|hedyg: 2@d is 18-19(20)|pg||
nt|dburn: in fact, it may not work at all|pg||
nt|dburn: though declarer will still have to guess the play extremely well|pg||
nt|wstuart: 4@S is a control bid in @S showing a good hand and making a slam try in @Hs.|pg||
nt|wstuart: 4NT is likely RKC|pg||
nt|wstuart: Katz will likely jump showing the number of keycards and a void.|pg||
nt|chorush: They will have a way to show a void but Katz cannot be sure the void is not opposite an ace, as it happens to be here|pg||
pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: seems right to show immediate @C support with lousy @S suit  [and expected bad split even if partner has 4@S]|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|jillan:  3 aces and a spade void|pg||
nt|sybarra: easy bid   |pg||
nt|ritong: experts hate leads from xxx|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW auction would have been interesting after 4@H opening|pg||
pc|cT|nt|yuval10: 9 easy tricks from top|pg||
nt|ritong: brad is visibly sitting on the benefits|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry, got knocked off the internet but didn't miss any of the bridge|pg||
nt|sybarra: pard promises 4 @s and opener|pg||
nt|ritong: i think they can raise on 3 now and then|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @H2 is ATTITUDE|pg||
pc|c3|nt|algraves: seems normal|pg||
nt|wstuart: (RKC = Roman Keycard Blackwood) where there are 5 controls -  the 4 aces and the trump K.|pg||
pc|cA|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "that's too fast", takes time to study dummy|pg||
nt|ritong: just trying to avoid big swings|pg||
nt|ritong: if he was not doing that, he would certainly raise @ds|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss wrote: if you bid 1NT, X would be takeout. haven't discussed here|pg||
nt|ritong: which were freely bid by his pard|pg||
nt|hedyg: so now he knows no @D in N|pg||
nt|kit: worked quite well, as Weinstein was able to compete to the right level|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Weinstein "not more @D's?)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Gitleman-Moss in 5@C|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|harmon: 4d could be beaten2 so this is better|pg||
nt|rhelle: it bites them here ... 4@h or 4@s looks solid|pg||
nt|harmon: they play canape??|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i played those a lot in the 70s/80s  and to be honest  i have no idea how/why they work|pg||
nt|ahollan1: duh  soo sorry vs suit 3rd/5th|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ritong: a @c now and...|pg||
pc|cK|nt|hedyg: why @c rather than @H?|pg||
pc|c9|nt|ritong: oy|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|rhelle: no, just to keep the relays symmetrical - it's an exception|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Cheek also received @S lead to make 3N|pg||
nt|dburn: well, Stansby didn't, and he didn't guess what the heart lead was from|pg||
nt|dburn: so if Greco plays a diamond now...|pg||
nt|dburn: ...I don't see how Stansby will make this|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think as simple as   makes without @D shift |pg||
nt|dburn: of course, Greco doesn't know what @hJ was all about either - he may think it was @hJ10 doubleton|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1st discard of @S5 encourages @S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but it not absolute directive|pg||
nt|harmon: no|pg||
nt|harmon: suggest d|pg||
nt|dburn: well, Hampson's bdi encouraged spades, so to speak - more important may be that encouraging spades discourages hearts|pg||
nt|harmon: 9 of s if he had led from J10 of hts|pg||
nt|dburn: but it really is a very deep position for Greco to play a diamond, when declarer might easily have the jack|pg||
nt|harmon: Eric usually takes his time but almost ALWAYS gets it right|pg||
nt|dburn: well, if he gets this one right it will be a truly impressive effort|pg||
nt|harmon: tansby mightve played hts 1st as a kib pointed out|pg||
pc|d2|nt|bg: some may try to run club 8 now but not at imps risk of losing 4 dia tricks|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he probably knew that anyway - he would not expect Cheek to lead from @dAQ108 only against 2NT - all pass|pg||
nt|ahollan1: how so you say that in French Henri?|pg||
nt|ritong: oy²|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hehe|pg||
nt|sybarra: nice H @H|pg||
nt|passell: great lead ace and a diamond for sure he would go down|pg||
nt|ritong: he s not home and dry, but indeed would have been tougher|pg||
nt|passell: may still make on a dbl squeeze  but great guessing involved|pg||
nt|passell: he will probably play to ruff in queen of diamonds  then guess the end position|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other than  it works   was there any reason Muller could find @C shift|pg||
nt|ritong: i don t think moss can afford to check if @h was an underlead or not|pg||
nt|ritong: so many winning other solutions|pg||
nt|passell: club shift would be bad he would be forced to guess the dia|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in other room the opening lead was @D    then @C10 shift|pg||
nt|sybarra: but is club shift, with 106xx |pg||
nt|sybarra: you just dont have a club spot in the S hand|pg||
nt|passell: maybe he will guess it anyway since a low dia wasnt shifted to  he might have without the queen|pg||
nt|passell: a truly great hand of cat and mouse|pg||
nt|ahollan1: cool inference Mike|pg||
nt|sybarra: agree MIke,  can be making, -1, making, +1 etc |pg||
nt|sybarra: ok +1 optimistic|pg||
nt|ritong: somehow|pg||
nt|ahollan1: unlike previous board which was different set of animals|pg||
pc|d4|nt|dburn: well done|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dK|pg||
nt|harmon: oh ok|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: Stansby DID open 4@H - DBL - P - 5@D end|pg||
pc|s4|nt|wstuart: They claim should come right after Katz tries to sneak a @C through.|pg||
nt|harmon: See thats GREAT partnership defense|pg||
pc|s3|nt|jillan:  NIckell again please|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|bg: if N doesnt keep his two spades E could make 4 on an andplay|pg||
nt|ritong: now the real tough part|pg||
nt|ritong: will take ages, prepare sandwiches|pg||
pc|d3|nt|sybarra: better be fast sandwiches?|pg||
nt|ritong: hmm|pg||
nt|ritong: there are a lot of informations/inferences to gather up|pg||
nt|ritong: for starters, why did the guy underlead?|pg||
nt|ritong: has he really underled?|pg||
nt|ritong: why the @d A first?|pg||
nt|ritong: why not a @c?|pg||
nt|sybarra: next is can you afford to duck @D?|pg||
nt|ritong: etc|pg||
nt|sybarra: etc etc|pg||
nt|sybarra: this makes my head hurt |pg||
nt|sybarra: and I am not even at the table|pg||
nt|sybarra: how about some port and stilton?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: he asked about the diamond 7 earlier|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Brad had time to relax while defense struggled with previous board -- he's just wearing them down now|pg||
nt|ritong: also, in general, players tend to delay crucial moves|pg||
nt|ritong: here, if brad hops @d K, from his point of view he s not dead already when @d Q does not drop|pg||
pc|d6|nt|dburn: very, very well done|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ritong: after a ruff|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|d5|pc|h9|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg||
nt|rhelle: so the sequences over 1@C - 1@H are idenctical to the 1@h opening|pg||
pc|s2|pc|h6|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|yuval10: this wasn't a good day for Louisville in the NCAA tournement - the local college, led by coach Pitino, surprisingly lost to 14th seeded Morehead st. 62:61|pg||
nt|ritong: @d ruff looks clearcut|pg||
pc|dJ|mc|8|pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4SHAQT765DAQT98CA7,S97643HK983D54CK4,SAKQJT8HJDCQJT985,S52H42DKJ7632C632|sv|e|nt|lc: It's also a bit rare to see 6 Americans vs. 6 Americans at this stage.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|lc: This looks like fun :)|pg||
nt|chorush: Here is a ghoulie|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: looks like a dangerous hand|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|lc: So, 6 of either black suit looks like a good spot.  South might not have had that in mind when he picked up his hand.|pg||
nt|lc: Kamil might not have had this auction in mind either, when he picked up HIS hand.|pg||
nt|chorush: He still doesn't, and won't for another couple rounds of bidding|pg||
nt|gavin:  last night in the pairs I had a 2 count and found myself sacrificing in 7@C... i commented at the time, when I picked this hand up i didnt expect to be bidding a grand slam :)|pg||
nt|lc: I'm betting on Kamil to win this battle (with his @S holding). But, for his sake it should be on the 6-level (not 4 or 7).|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: I like 3@S -- surely forcing -- maybe learn something useful.|pg||
mb|5S|nt|lc: Maybe 5@S is intended as asking for a @C control.|pg||
nt|lc: Probably it should be -- let's see if Fleisher gets the message.|pg||
nt|gavin:  fleisher's initial jump shift was based on his nice distribution|pg||
nt|gavin:  now that is worthless|pg||
nt|lc: I wonder if 6@S is in any danger?|pg||
nt|lc: It might be.|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: Because, if declarer wins the , say, red-suit lead in dummy, he might tap himself out.|pg||
nt|lc: He might play RED ACE-  RED- RUFF and draw trump -- and the 5-2 break sells death.|pg||
nt|lc: The altenrative of @CA - Club looks more dangerous.|pg||
nt|lc: Maybe he will win the lead and play a SMALL @C from dummy.|pg||
nt|lc: Planning to later unnlock the @CA.|pg||
nt|lc: Interesting stuff.|pg||
nt|lc: In only 5@S -- he can play safe by playing @CA and another club at once.|pg||
nt|gavin:  yes that seems better, now you dont lose a ruff to Kxx of clubs.  He can discard the ace of clubs later on high trumps|pg||
mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chorush: Fleiisher has implicit trust in Kamil|pg||
nt|lc: If 5@S was explained as lacking @C control, maybe Moss will be inclined to lead a @C?|pg||
pc|c2|nt|lc: Even then, declarer has no lock -- playing low risks defeat on a ! lead.|pg||
nt|lc: @C singleton fear.|pg||
nt|lc: He can play @CA,  Red Ace, Red ruff -- and make on 4-3 @S.|pg||
nt|lc: Or, put all his eggs in the @C basket right now -- going down only if the lead is a singleton.|pg||
nt|gavin:  seems like 5-2@S is more likely than clubs 4-1 offside on a 'marked' club lead|pg||
nt|gavin:  i dont know the %|pg||
nt|lc: Because if the lead is not a singleton, he needs only 5-2 !  (Even if the lead is from Kxx or Kxxxx he is okay by winning T1 in hand and playing trumps throwing @CA).|pg||
pc|cA|nt|chorush: spades 4-3 about 60%. Singleton = ? but I would guess less|pg||
nt|lc: Nobody likes to go down at trick one.|pg||
nt|lc: Now, of course, he can make it by playing another @C -- but he won't do that.|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|ritong: this @c A smells like down later on|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|s8|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|c7|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|d9|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|d3|pc|h5|pc|s6|pg||
nt|lc: This feeling when LHO discards is not fun.|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sT|nt|lc: So, in a funny way, the @C lead from xxx was a triumph.  On a red suit lead, I think declarer would not have been as likely to fear a @C ruff and would have indeed led a low @C off ...|pg||
nt|lc: dummy at trick 2.|pg||
pc|d7|mc|11|nt|lc: Kamil tends to be VERY hard on himself.  This won't sit well.|pg||
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qx|c6|st||md|4SHAQT765DAQT98CA7,S97643HK983D54CK4,SAKQJT8HJDCQJT985,S52H42DKJ7632C632|sv|e|nt|brolucius: They did well to go plus on those E/W cards. |pg||
nt|jillan:  Nick bid hearts first so he should be playing right|pg||
nt|wstuart: Right - Nickell was playing it.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: east took a short break|pg||
nt|wstuart: 6@D will make on this deal, but it is an odds-off contract.|pg||
nt|jillan:  can't they make 6@D here as the cards break|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: all players are back now|pg||
nt|chorush: This hand should be played in the very good 5 diamonds. 3NT undeservedly gains 2 imps so justice not served|pg||
nt|ritong: ?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: huh?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry I played the wrong card brad played the squeeze|pg||
nt|sybarra: he guessed it?   |pg||
nt|dburn: crikey|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: east tried a 1NT overcall in other room i d be surprised to see gitelman duplicate this|pg||
nt|rhelle: yes, they are surging ahead now|pg||
mb|1C!|an|16+|nt|wstuart: aside from being off the @SA, 6@D requires both the @H finesse and 2-1 @D which will fail 22% of the time.|pg||
nt|ritong: okay  do you confirm the score operator?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: he made 4|pg||
nt|ritong: ok ty|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: but I had him in the dummy when he was in hand|pg||
nt|dinos1: Levin quickly has limited his hand with simple raise|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: assuming 1@s is the response here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@s does not include 5@S & 5@H|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: he made 4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other match  push at 5@D +1|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S limited by failure to open Precision 1@C|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 16+ unbal   or  17+ bal|pg||
mb|1S!|an|12+ hcp, 5+ !S|nt|jillan:  I know the percentage BUT you can't argue with the layout|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Sadam Hussein would describe this as the mother of all misfits.|pg||
nt|dburn: North-South will do well to go plus on these|pg||
nt|passell: well guessed when he ruffed the diamond north was squeezed|pg||
mb|2C!|an|5+ !H|nt|007 joosth: what about the 1NT rebid?|pg||
nt|chorush: Most players will not rebid a 5 card minor nor reverse with such skimpy values, so 1NT is chosen as the alternative|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i thought 1@S was 8+ HCP  and all the other positives 12+|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2 amazing hands in a row for declarer |pg||
nt|ahollan1: that sure is a space-saving agreement|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D is 100% game force|pg||
nt|ritong: basically, KQxxx facing the singleton are not awesome, although opener must have goodies onside to offer this " minisplinter"|pg||
mb|2S!|nt|harmon: when they restarted Geoff shda passed:)|pg||
nt|ritong: with four small trumps|pg||
nt|kit: classic preempt, although at favorable maybe should open 4@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other tables visible via http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: a nightmare to play|pg||
nt|brolucius: Was 3@D available?|pg||
nt|dburn: better not bid any more, or he may have a doubled nightmare to play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: my bet    2@C transfer to @D|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: it was alerted but no one gave any info|pg||
nt|ritong: possibly more|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kit do you think 4@H opening more likely in 1st seat than in 2nd?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: for those who don't always open 4@H :)|pg||
mb|3D|nt|algraves: will Lauria double if Cheek bids again?|pg||
nt|hedyg: if 2@s showed 6-5...|pg||
nt|ritong: this might get bloody|pg||
nt|passell: escaped the ouble  fred knows he is doing well  not chancing an accident|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: EW in trouble now|pg||
nt|ritong: at 50 a piece, though|pg||
nt|ritong: so hampson should get highly interested|pg||
nt|dburn: 2@c may be hearts - not sure of the methods here|pg||
nt|harmon: maybe depends on shapes too|pg||
nt|harmon: Walter??????|pg||
nt|dburn: and 2@s may be "good hand but not heart support"|pg||
mb|3S|nt|chorush: 50 years ago it would  have been universal to open East's hand 1 heart and rebid 2 diamonds|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: no could have been only 4 spades|pg||
nt|brolucius: I don't agree that it should show 5-6 (on the basis that North has denied four spades). That is a reasonable auction to describe a strong 4-6 hand. |pg||
nt|sybarra: N  has the hands my pards usually have :(|pg||
mb|4D|nt|ritong: this contract has a lot of play|pg||
nt|yuval10: 4@h looks makeable, so Schwartz team likely gets some imps back|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman studying the trick before turning it|pg||
nt|ritong: trump looks clear|pg||
nt|hedyg: then why bid 3@H?|pg||
nt|kit: declarer now has problem -- he may think he has to take quick pitch|pg||
nt|dinos1: now @h to A, @h|pg||
nt|kit: and if he does, West gets ruff, and no dummy entry for heart finesse|pg||
nt|dinos1: but if E has 2@c and @hKxx it's wrong|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: no trumps etc|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: alot of pointing alerts with no written explanations|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@H Key Card ask for @D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 5@C=2 without Q|pg||
mb|5S|nt|ritong: 7|pg||
nt|chorush: Katz' 3H bid here is announcing some black suit worry|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: brad has doubled, and not with a trump stack|pg||
nt|ritong: so he has values, including @h control|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann lowers screen, asks about carding, gitelman answers UDCA|pg||
nt|dburn: he doesn't have a bad hand for hearts, or so he hopes - that @sJ would be a working card, and he has an ace|pg||
nt|dburn: don't know what this means at all - maybe 5@s demands a club control, maybe just a general invitation|pg||
nt|harmon: I have a feeling the he has shown at least 6-5 in de blacks|pg||
nt|dburn: one would hope so, at least|pg||
nt|harmon: 6s needs 4-3 break|pg||
nt|dburn: six clubs probably the best slam|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i would have thought that 65 would have an unexpected jump response to the 2@C "@H Ask"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yes -- i meant 66|pg||
nt|dburn: since you can ruff a spade in the South hand, but how you can figure that out I don't know|pg||
mb|6S|mb|p|nt|wstuart: The question was posed that if EW knew both hands, why would they not bid 6@D (not knowing the NS layout).|pg||
nt|rhelle: lead: either a small trump or the @dK|pg||
nt|harmon: prob d3 uless defense slips|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: or even pitch that spade on the ace of diamonds, of course|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: down 2 or 3 it seems|pg||
nt|dburn: meanwhile, 3@d is pretty much bound to be hopeless unless partner miraculously has two of them|pg||
nt|brolucius: No reason whatsoever for Lauria to double, as I see it. |pg||
nt|dburn: but it would be a bit hard to go down in six spades, even so|pg||
nt|harmon: yes kibs I see|pg||
nt|harmon: might get a trump laed|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the 5-2 @S split just too much for 6@S -- after @C lead|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ritong: ron tried a small @h to his stiff jack, but unfortunately moss was aware about that card|pg||
nt|jillan:  because it is a poor slam|pg||
nt|chorush: mainly because it is about a 41% contract|pg||
nt|harmon: 6s is cold on clead|pg||
nt|harmon: solves his problem|pg||
nt|ahollan1: WE know that duck @C works -- but at the table  Kamil won Ace then ruff to hand ...|pg||
nt|harmon: IM being flooded lol|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and WE know that @CA and @C works -- but is that odds on after @C lead??|pg||
nt|dburn: no, not really|pg||
pc|h5|nt|jillan:  it has ONE virtue - it makes|pg||
nt|harmon: need to start spades for 5th trick|pg||
nt|rhelle: I'd start with @h ...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Martel-Stansby seem to be on their way to slam too|pg||
nt|harmon: dukce was poited out now its cold|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|ritong: no clear reason to give up on trump attack|pg||
nt|hedyg: Lauria said he miscounted last hand, thought he had 21|pg||
nt|bigtrain: seems like winning a red ace and playing a small club is the correct (and winning) play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1st one in from Peter Boyd -- win @HA  duck @C  then jettison @CA|pg||
nt|dburn: still, he may be forced to make it now|pg||
nt|harmon: duck|pg||
nt|harmon: well don Geoff|pg||
nt|harmon: I like Geoff one of the few guys in acbl that has less hair than me|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ahhh    this is cute position too with @H coming in|pg||
nt|harmon: he has 12 tricks now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: a true claim to fame??|pg||
pc|c4|nt|sybarra: so do we have a guess re 2 @C?|pg||
pc|c8|nt|brolucius: Did he really, though, or was that just to annoy N/S?|pg||
nt|ritong: naturally, when opps go down a bunch, the first reaction should be " hey, did we have something to play" instead of " har har har  suckers"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: all the matchpoints|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c7|pg||
nt|bg: Fred may regret tossing Dia|pg||
nt|bg: now if S ruffs a dia he cannot get off dummy without E playng another dia but he can discarf a club now Fred doent have anther dia|pg||
nt|ritong: far sighted, bruce|pg||
nt|yuval10: other room has already played twice as many boards as played here|pg||
nt|bg: if he ruffs a club now he has to finesse the dia|pg||
nt|sybarra: trans. to @D?|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|nt|wstuart: To expand on my answer from above, the @H finesse is 50% and 3-0 @D is 22%, so the slam will fail 61% of the time (0.5 * 0.22).|pg||
pc|d8|nt|chorush: Commendable bidding from EW will cost them 1 imp|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|hedyg: well it is what he said|pg||
nt|brolucius: You are at the table-side?|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ritong: gling|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nope  5@D Stansby|pg||
pc|s2|pc|d9|mc|12|nt|ahollan1: coincidentally the 2 close matches are from the same bracket   one SemiFinal will be winner of Diamond-Berg  vs winner of Nickell-Fleisher|pg||
nt|harmon: new leaders|pg||
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qx|o7|st||md|1S987H9864DAQ63CK3,SKQJT62HAQ2D2CQ85,S3HKT5DKJ97CAJT76,SA54HJ73DT854C942|sv|b|nt|lc: Whatever the odds were, it was a huge price to play for going wrong.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S!|an|bad raise|nt|lc: Most experts play 2@S here as very weak.|pg||
nt|lc: They have a way to show a better raise (artificially).|pg||
nt|lc: This raise has great preemptive effect -- and with 8 trumps ... well, I'll say no more.|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
mb|d|mb|3S|nt|lc: Most experts now use transfers after the X.  So 1NT=@C   2@C=@D  2@D=@H and 2@H = a decent raise  (2@S= bad raise).|pg||
nt|chorush: 2 spades is a weak raise, they would bid 2h with a constructive raise|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: The transfer is either a 1-suiter -- or a lead-directing/ value-showing raise.|pg||
nt|lc: Anyway, after the resp. X, Gitelman bids 3@S knowing of 9 trumps.|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: N-S were going to reach 3@D, likely making, and now it looks like 3@S likely down 1.  |pg||
nt|lc: I totally approve of everyone's action.  :) :)|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
nt|chorush: well, the Law is the Law|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|nt|lc: Fleisher has a fun trick 2 problem.  Any of the 4 suits is probably a fine play from his point of view.|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|h4|pc|c8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|lc: At matchpoints, I doubt anyone would have doubled 3@S, so the -100 for E-W would be a good job (so much better than -110 or -130).  But here, at this scoring, it is no big deal.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c7|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s6|pc|d9|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
nt|lc: For declarer, this falls under the category of "no hope."|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1S987H9864DAQ63CK3,SKQJT62HAQ2D2CQ85,S3HKT5DKJ97CAJT76,SA54HJ73DT854C942|sv|b|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: should have bid 5@S, you'd have bid 6|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: low heart might still pick off Tx or Txx with Gitelman|pg||
nt|dburn: looks like a Roland grand slam|pg||
nt|algraves: hmm|pg||
nt|hedyg: system summary for NS: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=577&pid=155|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: unable to record play due to the fact that I got disconnected|pg||
nt|rhelle: very swingy match so far |pg||
nt|kit: here is an exciting one|pg||
nt|ahollan1: somebody didn't shuffle|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 5@D opening??|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: new leader  only 58 boards remaining|pg||
nt|kit: probably start 5@D-5@S|pg||
nt|dinos1: seems so :)|pg||
nt|dinos1: and then? 6@h?|pg||
nt|kit: and Weinstein needs to find the 6@H call|pg||
nt|kit: seems like he should|pg||
nt|kit: Platnick may take a save over a slam -- but maybe not, fear of pushing them into a grand|pg||
nt|dinos1: yes, he has void, ace, @s tolerance|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Grue-Cheek +1660  in 12@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: they're 6 boards ahead of their other table|pg||
nt|dburn: Stansby trying to knock out the late club entry to the hearts, I guess|pg||
nt|harmon: Heart back mightve concerned him|pg||
mb|1S|nt|algraves: Lauria played too quickly there as it was clear to not play a third spade|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Hampson's 1@C opener was 16+|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 5@D-5@S-6@D-6@S/DBL-end|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: they prolly have a tool to show 5@s 4@h limit|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: they are joking that it might go all pass at othe table|pg||
nt|dburn: but 6@s is pretty good - not straightforward to bid|pg||
nt|brolucius: Looks good for a splinter bid.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: result is accurate|pg||
nt|dburn: indeed - he might very well have ruffed high|pg||
mb|1N|an|F|nt|ritong: that too|pg||
nt|wstuart: Since the IMP returns are +11 IMPs for 920 vs 420 and -10 IMPs for -50 vs -400, the slam needs to be an 11:21 favorite in order to break even, wihch is 52%|pg||
nt|ritong: by the way, 3NT was hard to defeat on previous|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D=9-11  game force|pg||
nt|kit: clear to double for club ruff and hope to have another trick I think|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: here we go|pg||
nt|bg: yes 2h =5spades 4 hearts|pg||
nt|chorush: That's true, Wayne, when you compare it with 5 of a minor but not when 3NT is an alternative|pg||
nt|harmon: sometimes opening light gets you, this was one of em|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Greco probably surprised how quickly his drek improved|pg||
nt|kit: although it doesn't work well|pg||
mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: sorry BAL 9-11|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Diamond will open 2@C  that will really change tone of auction in other room|pg||
nt|ritong: we often observe that, but again, see how experts are reluctant with stiff aces|pg||
nt|ritong: stiff ace is "total control" of the suit, but in reality it is an inactive card|pg||
nt|dinos1: but dangerous with @sKJx under|pg||
nt|kit: Levin might get the spades wrong though|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: West in the OR chose 1NT after South decided to open 1@d|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well my copy of convention card also says 1@C=16+|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so same auction as Grue-Cheek table|pg||
pc|s3|nt|ritong: possible 11 tricks  let s see|pg||
nt|marinesa: many pairs play 2h is 5s,4h 0-9 and 2s is 5s,4h and 10-11 something in this range|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow  Stansby  buys 4@H south  after  2@C-2@H-3@C-P//4@C-4@D-P-4@H//end|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry 4@H North|pg||
nt|ritong: here, i guess hampson, with small singleton in @c and @s Ax would have passed, offering pard to go on|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: long ause by each player at every opportunity|pg||
nt|ahollan1: good time to mention -- even if you lead Ace from AK -- at 5 level and higher that should switch back to King from AK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the idea is you need to know whether or not to cash out   and  higher chance that you'll want to lead unsupported Ace|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so Ace gets attitude   and King gets count|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Greco-Levin (screenmates) talking inaudibly|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hope this hasn't been discussed already ....|pg||
nt|ritong: inactive card means it will be unuseful to develop tricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: I think NS play Rodwell's  Inversion   where  others play DBL in Forcing Pass situations as "don't bid"  i think this DBL says the opposite -- i'm ok with you bidding more|pg||
nt|ritong: my point is, for intermediate/advanced player, it is awesome to hold stiff ace in opponent s suit|pg||
nt|ritong: it is not bad, of course, but not as great as one might think|pg||
nt|ahollan1: singleton Ace overrated in a lot of situations|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or   since this is probably NOT a Forcing Pass situation   DBL may just say "extras"|pg||
pc|s4|nt|rhelle: looks like 1 off, another 11 IMP swing|pg||
nt|rhelle: maybe -2, actually|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks Michael|pg||
pc|s7|nt|ahollan1: if they've increased min for 1@C, maybe they've reduced min for 2@D|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Hampson-Levin discussing soory|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Levin head in hands shking it|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|marinesa: especially precision pairs|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@D shows a mixed raise.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: on the previous hand that is|pg||
nt|algraves: a lot of work to do in slam , KX spades is very favourable of course|pg||
nt|hedyg: a joke it is for sure|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am told: any shortness, 3@H ask and 3@S= singleton @C|pg||
nt|dburn: to say nothing of 4-3 diamonds with the king right, and the heart finesse on should North lead the suit|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not that this method appears on their card.|pg||
nt|dburn: Hampson unwilling to enter the auction without four hearts|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ritong: 6@c demands several good news|pg||
pc|c6|pc|s5|nt|ritong: but..|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|ritong: the @h 9 had for purpose to diagnose if south has a stiff honor|pg||
nt|ritong: noone would cover with Hx(x)|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: if 3@S was shortness   North hand has gotten much worse|pg||
nt|ritong: of course i am not aware about tarzan's subtleties|pg||
nt|ahollan1: especially opposite passed partner in system that opens light|pg||
pc|c7|nt|wstuart: very true, Ira|pg||
pc|sA|nt|ritong: however, it seems that 3@h should come from Hx rather than xx|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we had a system expert doing commentary last set - but it is very late where he is now  [poland]|pg||
nt|ritong: just my (uninformed) two cents|pg||
nt|ritong: no problem|pg||
nt|ritong: ah|pg||
nt|ritong: why tarzan?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@H could also have been just shape showing|pg||
nt|ritong: well|pg||
nt|ritong: weiss/muller|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|yuval10: have to go now, enjoy the rest of the match|pg||
nt|yuval10: bye|pg||
nt|ritong: ciao|pg||
nt|ritong: brad is not the only facetious one around this table, seems|pg||
nt|brolucius: Well bid, anyway. They are over the first hurdle of a two-hurdle-race.|pg||
nt|algraves: so all reasonable lines of play will work it seems|pg||
nt|robbg:  anyway that is backwards, if those were the only 2 possible results the needed odds would be 10/21|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with 3@C a relay rather than showing @C|pg||
pc|c2|nt|hedyg: 3@D= fit and a singleton. 3@H asking etc|pg||
nt|sybarra: weiss/muller, sounds like wiesmuiler who played tarzar in 1930's (also champion swimmer)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thru 58  Nickell over Fleisher by a mere 4 imps|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nickell original  2 seed    Fleisher  7|pg||
nt|ritong: til now, we had few opportunities to observe it, but muller is a rreal tough guy, especially in the opening lead compartiment|pg||
nt|sybarra: Johnny Weissmuller....correct spelling |pg||
nt|ahollan1: Diamond  3 seed and Berg has risen from  22|pg||
nt|kit: big problem here|pg||
nt|kit: would South double with KJx of spades?  That is what Levin is wondering|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|nt|vugraphzfe: fred asked about 3H and brad asked about 3D but I didn't get conclusive answers|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 5@D opening could have been 2290|pg||
nt|dinos1: u thk S played J from Jx?|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|hedyg: a limited hand, no more than 4-5 controls|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is reassuring when he takes so long to work out the best plan. Makes you want to give up the game when they pick up 12 tricks without pausing for breath.|pg||
nt|dburn: this is not easy|pg||
nt|algraves: lol, very complicated if you are trying to make with spades 3-1 as you would like to ruff 3 clubs in dummy|pg||
nt|dburn: he may start @cA, club ruff, @dQ intending to pitch a heart|pg||
nt|dburn: or, I suppose, he may just take the heart finesse|pg||
nt|dburn: don't see any other serious runners, but far from clear which of those two is favourite|pg||
nt|harmon: I think he needs the ht finesse, but I let better analysts decide|pg||
nt|algraves: yes he may be thinking of heart finesse and then if that works to finesse club with fall back on 2-2 spades with king on side|pg||
nt|brolucius: East did choose the splinter bid art the other table and, as you see, they have netted 1430 at the other table. If you put your cursor over the result, you can see the auction.|pg||
nt|algraves: first really big hand of the match as slam may not be bid in other room|pg||
nt|algraves: oh i see|pg||
nt|algraves: that is a great feature|pg||
nt|brolucius: A trump lead made it a bit easier.|pg||
nt|harmon: Fleischer leading Nickell 20-0 after 6|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|vugraphzfe: and did not see what went under SK|pg||
nt|chorush: that's true, and not known by most players|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
nt|harmon: Hey if Alfredo agrees with me I cant be tooo wrong|pg||
nt|brolucius: He didn't agree with you very quickly...|pg||
nt|harmon: as long as he did lol|pg||
nt|brolucius: We will see if he agrees with Allan by finessing in clubs next!|pg||
nt|rhelle: defence needs to be careful not to be thrown in|pg||
nt|ahollan1: delay was NOT all player  --  i'm told connection played a role too|pg||
nt|ritong: 1 imp at stake here|pg||
nt|ralfwil: at 3 years of age, chickenpox is not so bad as at 10 years of age|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Greco thinking, all other players have left the room!|pg||
nt|ritong: nervous atmosphere|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: just me and Greco, kinda eerie|pg||
pc|h9|nt|algraves: lol, easy when you see all the cards|pg||
nt|harmon: Q of d my prediction|pg||
nt|ritong: so 13 it is|pg||
nt|ahollan1: would Weinstein bid 5@C without shortness somewhere??|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: you probably know him as Olympic Swimmer|pg||
nt|ritong: ya sure|pg||
nt|ahollan1: :)|pg||
nt|ritong: tarzan is just a comics hero:)|pg||
nt|sybarra: but he played Tarzan in movies |pg||
nt|sybarra: (black and white movies btw)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: actually  Weissmuller did win a number of gold medals before becoming hollywood's tarzan|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in case we forgot --- nice stop in 4@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nickell lead no just 2    5 boards to play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
nt|dburn: that may come now|pg||
nt|brolucius: The defenders will be muttering to themselves under their breath. 'How many finesses is this guy going to take?!'|pg||
nt|hedyg: @s lead in OR|pg||
nt|harmon: ok Q of d now|pg||
nt|hedyg: ruff a @c first|pg||
nt|brolucius: The famous English player, Jeremy Flint, used to advise that you commit a huge amount of energy to the important boards. Operation Big Deal. That is exactly what Versace is doing.|pg||
nt|dburn: ace of hearts also not impossible, just to see whether he needs a heart pitch at all, but...|pg||
nt|dburn: ...that's probably too risky if the king doesn't drop|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Moss'  @S2  upside down count|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|nt|harmon: thats better A|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ritong: yes|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|ritong: ensuring 10|pg||
nt|ritong: you never know|pg||
mc|8|nt|ahollan1: Gitelman wasn't thinking about duck -- just continuation|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other Semi-Final match     thru 5   Grue 130  v  Kang 84|pg||
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qx|o8|st||md|2SQJ86542HKQ9DT5C9,S97HT632DK4CQJ872,SATHA875DJ62CAT65,SK3HJ4DAQ9873CK43|sv|o|nt|ritong: pity|pg||
nt|ritong: we won t see if brad would open 1NT|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1D|nt|gavin:  he would open 1NT 100%|pg||
nt|gavin:  in any seat|pg||
nt|ritong: i think so, yes|pg||
mb|2H!|an|6+spds,8+p|nt|ritong: the freak hand went to @d team|pg||
nt|ritong: new leader etc|pg||
nt|lc: Clicking MOVIE to look at Bds 5 and 6 in the other room might be fun (if you are rooting for Diamond, anyway).|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ritong: heh|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|chorush: Yes a heart was led and Hampson ducked it to his stiff J, which made the dummy good|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gavin:  Interesting evaluation here by Fleisher, it seems as though he forced to game facing a balanced minimum|pg||
nt|lc: Here we see a growing trend in modern bridge -- many uses of transfers -- a good idea not just for better bidding, but to usually put the overcaller on lead.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg||
nt|gavin:  with north south having only two diamond losers and no @H or @D losers, all they need to do to make the hand is avoid 2 trump losers|pg||
nt|lc: Yes, 3@S might have been more conservative.  BUt, likely with 3 aces, Kamil would have bid 4.|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg||
nt|gavin:  no @H or @C losers rather|pg||
nt|gavin:  eliminating the trumps as quickly as possible is the best way to sort out that problem|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SQJ86542HKQ9DT5C9,S97HT632DK4CQJ872,SATHA875DJ62CAT65,SK3HJ4DAQ9873CK43|sv|o|nt|ritong: nice slam|pg||
nt|ritong: notice greco's 2@c|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: arguing the score now|pg||
nt|ritong: starting with 1@s might be less efficient|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss thought there were only 7 tricks|pg||
nt|algraves: Versace has very good feel at the table|pg||
nt|sybarra: I think Fred was in the tank|pg||
nt|ritong: looks normal to reach 3NT with these two hands|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: possible correction on board 38|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: due to dispute|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry everyone -- i don't know if there is webcam this set|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kamil-Fleisher used transfer in comp to make North declarer|pg||
mb|1D!|an|c b short|mb|2D!|an|natural|nt|chorush: 5 clubs within a hair of making here|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: west claims he played the hand due to wrong information|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@s = 9+, 4+@h, unbalanced|pg||
nt|passell: yes seems very likely|pg||
nt|ritong: strong @c for NS|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal  18+ bal|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2+@D|pg||
mb|2S!|an|negative free bid|nt|algraves: NS can remind themselves that slam is natural to bid and almost every line makes|pg||
nt|kit: yet another possible slam hand|pg||
nt|dburn: if 2@s is not forcing, will North bid over it?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: will eldad suggest slam?|pg||
nt|harmon: 6c here not the worst contract ive ever seen|pg||
nt|dburn: been in worse slams than 6@s on these cards|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 3s alert|pg||
nt|dburn: sorry, than 6@c|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2N=19-21   maybe specifically 19-20 ins 1st/2nd seat   i'm not sure if they do same as meckwell/greco-hampson|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: although it is certainly true that I have also been in worse slams than 6@s|pg||
nt|dburn: but not as many of them|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@D game-forcing|pg||
nt|chorush: We are back to the nearly 5 club hand|pg||
nt|jillan:  can you make it double dummy Ira|pg||
nt|ritong: @hs behave, so no big deal|pg||
nt|dburn: no, he won't|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 1NT = relay|pg||
nt|ahollan1: close call    terrible @D holding   but 3 bullets|pg||
pc|dK|nt|bg: 3nt makes but hard to bid|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@d = 4@d, 5+@h|pg||
pc|d2|nt|ritong: nope|pg||
nt|harmon: 3n a good result spade lead beats 3n|pg||
nt|kit: the double of 3@C may backfire, as now Platnick will know to upgrade his hand if Diamond makes a move|pg||
nt|ahollan1: alert of 3@H  showing @C stop???|pg||
nt|dburn: not that close, I don't think - I certainly would not bid|pg||
pc|d3|nt|brolucius: 1@H-2@D-3@S= show2 5+@H-5+@C 12-14|pg||
nt|algraves: that is an interesting treatment , lots of merit in it |pg||
nt|chorush: I don't see how unless you get a trump lead or a heart and a heart continuation|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|ritong: vulnerable brad would try|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@h = relay|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S 4+@S forcing   if 4@S then 5+@C/@D|pg||
pc|d4|nt|bg: true Henri this is an imp scale type of hand|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|jillan:  I ment you personally >)(|pg||
nt|ahollan1: identical auctions -- go figure|pg||
nt|sybarra: frankly everything behaves |pg||
nt|passell: 2dia was a winning bid if he had rebid 1nt fred would be hard pressed to raise|pg||
nt|kit: But no move by Diamond -- I think he should make one try, and that is all Platnick would need|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow  in the other room    5@D-5@S-end|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ritong: non vulnerable possible gain is not much bigger than possible loss|pg||
nt|ritong: so, better go quietly and avoid adrenalina rushes|pg||
nt|ritong: not that brad tends to avoid that:)|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@d = 3=5=4=1|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sry possible correction from down 3 to down 2|pg||
nt|ritong: especially with two baby hearts|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think if Moss thought hand was balanced he would open 1N [good 14] rather than downgrade|pg||
nt|passell: one reason I am on the side line I would rebid 1nt|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N -- YOU MADE ME BID|pg||
nt|ritong: not anymore|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ritong: we see that everything behave, declarer does not|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thru 10    Grue 43  Kang 19|pg||
nt|ritong: visibly an inference|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|ritong: must be pass or correct|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Greco pulled out 3@D, put it back|pg||
nt|ritong: landing in anice lil spot|pg||
nt|ritong: welcome to ira chorush|pg||
nt|chorush: hi everyone?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: tried to bid 3@D twice, BALK the second time|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, hi ira:)|pg||
pc|dA|nt|chorush: you need to lead trumps twice from dummy|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry we were disconnected|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Mike - would you do that in your Big Club partnerships too?|pg||
nt|passell: probably open 1nt as it is in range for the big clubbers|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4 to play    Nickell now over Fleisher by ONE|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so all of the specs who said North shouldn't bid 6@D on 23 -- take a bow  [on THIS hand]|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|jillan:  you certainly need som e luck here|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: director has not ruled yet|pg||
nt|ahollan1: score correction in the other match   4 to play, match is TIED|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i don't know if 2N guarantees the canape hand, but it   seems balanced would NOT have bid 1@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and i'm told Greco only promised 5@S  --  that means not even close to bid again|pg||
pc|c2|nt|rhelle: great lead!|pg||
nt|harmon: sure is|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: balk -- all players advance one seat??|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nice stop|pg||
nt|chorush: They did well here, looks like it could make while Martel-Stansby went set 3|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: but don't leave us     use  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|nt|harmon: Bakkeren led low c in OR|pg||
nt|rhelle: he's been unlucky with his leads - let a slam nd a game through|pg||
nt|harmon: well the slam shdve been made anyway imho|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|harmon: he just made it easy|pg||
nt|ritong: 260 is 6 imps|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: at least 20 minutes behind on clock|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: players aware|pg||
pc|sT|nt|mslair: the fat lady will be singing soon|pg||
nt|ahollan1: impossible to find @S8 now|pg||
nt|ritong: how so?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but that's only to save overtrick  i think|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thinking from the auction and Gitelman breaking the suit|pg||
nt|ritong: 280 is 7 imps|pg||
nt|kit: well, I think East has pretty clear 6@H call anywy|pg||
pc|sK|nt|chorush: It could be 280 Henri|pg||
pc|s5|nt|marinesa: i'm surprised brad didn't make bid 2c followed by 2s, mild try, i think they play 2way cb|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|algraves: now club to Ace guarantees is clubs no worse than 3-1|pg||
nt|sybarra: ok guys, sorry  will say good night,    long day for me  head on key board :) |pg||
nt|ritong: it will|pg||
nt|dinos1: too good hand to pass|pg||
mc|10|nt|bg: gain 6imps to make 3nt nv lose 5 if down one but gain 10 vul vs lose6 if down therefore bid close vul games|pg||
nt|sybarra: gn all |pg||
nt|ahollan1: but maybe Henri it is right to remove later option in case declarer DOES hold @S10|pg||
nt|ritong: well in fact both defensers are depressed contemplting their three @hs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i.e. force guess/committment early|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Break|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe Fred read SJ Simon who's philosophy over preempts was   "if you're fixed -- stay fixed"|pg||
nt|kit: considering that they had AK doubleton of spades opposite queen-doubleton and slam was still okay, indicates that South's judgment was off|pg||
nt|ahollan1: probably doesn't really apply  i just like referring to SJ Simon|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in other room Kamil DID bid 3@S after same start |pg||
pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3SQ82HT43DJT6543C8,SAJ4HQ752D8CAQT52,SKHAKJ6DAKQ72CK63,ST97653H98D9CJ974|sv|e|nt|gavin:  this had would have taken a lot longer at matchpoints|pg||
nt|gavin:  hand|pg||
nt|lc: As so many of the others would have, too  :)|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|lc: So, 3NT is a nice contract (which could go down on a bad day), but will they reach that or 5@D?|pg||
mb|2D|nt|lc: Awkward rebid problem for North.|pg||
nt|ritong: depends on kamil rebid|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: 2NT or 2@H or 3@D?|pg||
nt|gavin:  this hand is very akward for north|pg||
mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|ritong: they seem to have a toy|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 2D=0-1 controls|pg||
nt|gavin:  he has shown 4@H and longer @D with a game force|pg||
nt|lc: The problem with toys like this is they come up once every 3 years -- and both partners have to remember. |pg||
nt|ritong: very interesting|pg||
nt|gavin:  this is a relatively common tool among strong 2@C opening partnerships|pg||
mb|4C!|nt|jstokes: it is common -- i'd like a little more playing strenth perhaps|pg||
nt|gavin:  the logic is that with 4@H and @D you struggle to establish a 4-4 @H fit after a 3@D rebid|pg||
nt|lc: Well, since it might come up once every 3 years, this is as close as he'll ever get to having it, so why not wheel it out.  :)|pg||
nt|gavin:  2@C 2@D: 3@D 3@H could be a 5 card suit|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H!|nt|lc: I suppose we'll find out what 4@C means -- but I know all my students play it as Gerber.  :(|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: duh|pg||
nt|lc: There is a Gerber epidemic in America among intermediate players.|pg||
nt|ritong: long is the road, larry|pg||
nt|lc: And I always thought it was a baby food.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Kamil writing furiously to Moss about 4C but I can't see it|pg||
nt|ritong: furiously?|pg||
nt|ritong: maybe adrenalina after 6@s did not slow down|pg||
nt|gavin:  Kamil has the worst possible hand for the auction|pg||
nt|gavin:  its important to not get dazzled by your point count and realize that once youve shown 22+ that you should look relative to that|pg||
nt|lc: Al Roth once yelled at me for calling my hand a "bad" 23 count -- he said there is no such thing.|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lc: Well, this is certainly a great contract -- you can try a @C up first -- then fall back on @H hook.  Sort of 75%.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: 4C was relay to diamonds with a slam try in diamonds|pg||
pc|h7|nt|lc: So, Fleisher will win, trump to hand and @C up - and soon claim.|pg||
pc|hA|nt|gavin:  7@H was an attempt to be tricky about the wherabouts of the queen|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h4|pg||
nt|gavin:  however partners 98 doubleton makes the 7 look honest|pg||
nt|gavin:  they lead 3rd 5th, so now it looks like Q97(x)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c3|mc|11|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SQ82HT43DJT6543C8,SAJ4HQ752D8CAQT52,SKHAKJ6DAKQ72CK63,ST97653H98D9CJ974|sv|e|nt|ritong: pure coinflip slam|pg||
nt|ritong: but two keys off|pg||
nt|ritong: oy|pg||
nt|brolucius: Versace was exhausted after the previous board and bid 3@S so that his partner could take a fair share of the work.|pg||
nt|dburn: third slam in a row|pg||
nt|ritong: he found a way to overcome 4/2@h break and, naturally, they were 3/3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and Fleisher bid 4@S  [i suspect that is key card ask in @H]|pg||
nt|dburn: not a lucky hand for the methods, that|pg||
mb|1C!|an|16+|nt|dburn: this one rather better than the last|pg||
nt|kit: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: another 'quiet' board - we're being spoilt tonight!|pg||
nt|ritong: 8 is better, for a full tie|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Martel-Stansby play Flannery 2@D   if you think that is bizarre,  so do Levin-Weinstein|pg||
nt|kit: some would open 3@H at favorable on North hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: care to name names Kit??|pg||
mb|1D!|an|0-7|nt|mslair: likely another 13 IMPs to the Diamond team|pg||
nt|ritong: unclear|pg||
nt|ritong: brad might make it short|pg||
nt|chorush: We will see the effect of the weak NT here|pg||
nt|dburn: no one did anything remotely unreasonable, and yet...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i wonder   if  2@S negative free bid    and DBL then @S Game force -- would immediate 3@S be INV??|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe it would|pg||
mb|d|an|!S-!D or !H-!C|nt|mslair: short by opening 4 hearts|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@d asks for a @d stop for 3NT|pg||
nt|harmon: 6h makes 6d goes down on roght lead|pg||
nt|rhelle: great EW result here|pg||
nt|harmon: yes|pg||
nt|rhelle: and 7@c is a cheap save, of course - 3 off|pg||
nt|chorush: Martel-Stansby use Flannery, which would discourage a spade overcall|pg||
nt|dinos1: juniors for sure)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Fleisher-Kamil did reach 6@H|pg||
nt|harmon: I dont like 2s with 7 and outside KQ but they in semis and Im here lol|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but difficult for Greco to evaluate his hand that way|pg||
nt|dburn: but you still might not do it - Greco bought about the only hand where partner would pass and game would be decent|pg||
nt|harmon: specially with the 2d bid on his right|pg||
nt|ahollan1: players in the know  telling me in context that 3@S would have been game force with good 6+@S|pg||
nt|harmon: I think he has to dble then bid sp|pg||
mb|2N|nt|ritong: or try some joke|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: gitelman showed interest when the tray came back.  usually is very stoic|pg||
nt|ritong: good time to have a gadget for minors|pg||
nt|brolucius: Another slam - just when I have to head for my wine-tasting. Ah well, it was 75 minutes very enjoyably spent. Bye!|pg||
nt|chorush: One of the disadvantages is that is allows the opponents to overcall freely at the one level. A major advantage is that it hinders the opponents from their natural bidding when ...|pg||
nt|chorush: they have the weak NT opener|pg||
nt|rhelle: as 1@d is artificial, 4@d must be pass or correct|pg||
nt|rhelle: North is looking for a save,|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: 2 clubs has not been alerted, but I believe it is a transfer to 2D which is a cue bid raise with 3 trumps|pg||
nt|rhelle: and will be surprised his partner's suit is @cs|pg||
nt|ritong: 8 comparisons left|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N very anti-systemic according to my copy of their CC|pg||
nt|ahollan1: best retort:  they also play flannery, or they also think it's bizarre? :)|pg||
nt|ybob: 3@D = 6/9 4 cartas|pg||
nt|ritong: greco has not a great hand, and the @ss behind him do not improve matters|pg||
nt|ybob: sry private|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this time i did not intend double entendre -- but it turned out to be decent straight line|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow -- Levin thinks hand too good for 3N??|pg||
nt|kit: wonder why Levin bid 4@C with heart stopper.  |pg||
nt|dinos1: and 4@c is P/C then|pg||
nt|kit: I think he may have thought 3@H Michaels|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or maybe he treats 3@H as 2-suiter|pg||
nt|dinos1: seems so|pg||
nt|kit: if so, they might not even reach game|pg||
nt|kit: and that could win, as slam goes down on spade lead|pg||
nt|dinos1: wonder they have misunderstanding in simple seq|pg||
nt|ahollan1: their ACBL convention card from 2010 Trials doesn't mention this auction|pg||
mb|3N|nt|bg: NS have 7 losers hope they do not vul get them into unprofitable sac|pg||
nt|ritong: oy|pg||
nt|dburn: and seven making on a fluke if you accidentally bid it|pg||
nt|chorush: Martel must now have a way to show his strong NT|pg||
nt|harmon: he knows his suit is clubs|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: north wrote to east that he "thought 3d showed diamonds but not 100% sure"|pg||
nt|harmon: pard asked for d stop|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@D meant to be mixed??  or is that their preempt|pg||
nt|chorush: I think it is mixed|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Most experts play that 2 spades is Nickells weakest action|pg||
nt|rhelle: does he? Partner can't have @ds after the precision 1@d opening?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: at least that is what the note said|pg||
nt|harmon: oh ok|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: not sure how east kept a straight face during that explanation|pg||
nt|rhelle: lol|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: that's the auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: fred: really?"|pg||
nt|rhelle: well, he knows now|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: right|pg||
nt|harmon: Eric might might just bid 6h|pg||
nt|chorush: Which seems an overstatement, if true|pg||
nt|kit: always possible they changed recently, and one of them forgot the change|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Pass would be stronger|pg||
pc|c4|nt|dburn: 2NT forcing, no doubt a useful treatment, but Versace is a bit cramped for room now|pg||
nt|rhelle: 5NT = pick a slam, I think|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i scrambled thinking 1st seat favorable MIGHT be 9-12 but nope|pg||
nt|ahollan1: playing "Leaping Michaels"  (2@H)-4@C/@D  shows @S & the bid minor|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: serious discussion by EW now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so common treatment for (2@H)-3@H to ASK stopper|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: clearly misunderstanding|pg||
pc|c8|nt|hedyg: Lauria has shown 16+ with 5+@d 4@H and no 3@ss|pg||
nt|rhelle: asking partner to choose between 6@d and 6@h|pg||
nt|rhelle: great bid|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Martel Stansby CC says  "SCR vs Big @C"   but i don't know what that means :(|pg||
pc|cA|nt|algraves: pick a slam sort of bid|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3NT probably denies 6 @ds now|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes 5NT= pick a slam|pg||
nt|rhelle: and a great save|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|ritong: pachtmann lost a big chance imho|pg||
nt|ritong: 4@h will sound bizarre to fred's ear|pg||
nt|ritong: if any:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: DBL either Responsive  [since hampson essentially bid 3@H]  or specifically showing @D length  [suggested by Weinsteins 4@D]|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2 hands in a row where opening bid made huge difference in rest of auction|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 3@D meant as natural|pg||
nt|chorush: I think this will be set 1 for a strange sort of push|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: contract has play, but..|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 3@H would have been responsive|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks John|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 3@D X i meant|pg||
pc|c2|nt|vugraphzfe: fred writes: not discussed. 2245|pg||
nt|ritong: til now, fred is super happy|pg||
nt|ritong: he had the right tool for a hand which is usually very tough to negotiate|pg||
nt|mslair: can't sign off in 5 hearts   I think he will bid 6 hearts  |pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss bouncing nervously|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|bigtrain: shape color rank|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ritong: @s Q10 is awkward|pg||
nt|chorush: With great good fortune this is going to make|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thru 13   Grue 45 v Kang 19|pg||
pc|c7|nt|ritong: just bid 4@s and check what happened after smoke clears up|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss also writes 2245|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss: he doesn't know anything about my hand|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: north says "i guess 3d asked for stopper"|pg||
nt|harmon: lotsa of exciting boards here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: duh|pg||
pc|dA|nt|hedyg: pick one yourself?|pg||
nt|rhelle: hahahahaha|pg||
pc|d9|nt|vugraphzfe: south claimed trick 1|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3 to play  FLEISHER leads Nickell by 6|pg||
nt|bigtrain: rather than color rank shape of normal crash|pg||
pc|d3|nt|dburn: 6@c "you pick one", 6@d "all right", 6NT "not that one"|pg||
nt|algraves: well bid|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|chorush: Katz' double was a very good tactic; he really wanted the opps out of 3NT looking at his club holding|pg||
nt|jillan:  well done!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i.e. this table is WAY behind|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|algraves: well he was probably no 0454 as no 3@C so 6@C 1453|pg||
nt|harmon: 6n wrong sided but safe|pg||
nt|hedyg: with 3 cards in @D Versace would probably have bid 4@d|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks  EVERYONE|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|sT|nt|chorush: Nickell will shift to the heart king and Katz will have nothing to lose by overtaking it|pg||
nt|ahollan1: our other room is on break|pg||
pc|d4|nt|harmon: found out they stuck by system unless eric overbids with 3s|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: they've picked up imps on last 5 boards for a 21-0 run|pg||
pc|d5|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|d7|pc|s5|pc|d6|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: did Greco give declarer a chance for extra trick by failure to split honors?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: a bit of a Grosvenor|pg||
nt|chorush: Weinstein has picked up 2 pieces of news, both bad.  Trumps are not splitting and the club ace is wrong|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Hampson could have scored both of his trump tricks on this line|pg||
pc|d2|nt|algraves: some might open east hand 1NT or if 1@D then rebid 2@C afraid to reverse with marginal reversing values so credit to Lauria for just bidding naturally |pg||
nt|ahollan1: ooo  2nd overtrick|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|dT|nt|ritong: levin will say " sry mate" and weinstein " np  i would do same"|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: at least 25 minutes behind|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and good on them for that -- single dummy  it is decent contract |pg||
nt|ahollan1: but more important  always good to show partner you're on his side|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: levin had a tough decision to make|pg||
nt|ritong: his side found @ds, which is not obvious|pg||
nt|ahollan1: for the pip|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|hQ|nt|dburn: well, Hampson isn't planning to take any heart finesses, but he won't have to|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SKQ7532HAK4DJ4CT4,S8HJT3DT73CAKJ653,SATH9876DKQ52CQ82,SJ964HQ52DA986C97|sv|b|nt|lc: At the local duplicate, I find it better to play it out -- Faster than claiming. But of course, they will throw it in -- and all easily see it.|pg||
nt|ritong: "faster than claiming" heh|pg||
nt|lc: Then again, I don't play in the local duplicate.  :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin:  Gitelman 2@C or 3@C over 1@S?|pg||
mb|1S|nt|lc: 2|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: 3@c might be artif|pg||
nt|lc: I'd like to bid 3, but am a coward when red.|pg||
mb|1N!|nt|lc: Surely would bid 3@C white, but that's not news.|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: How about NO @C?|pg||
nt|lc: That's a surprise.|pg||
mb|2S|nt|gavin:  now for kamil's bid over 2@S?|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin:  I think its worth 4@S|pg||
nt|lc: The way my partners lead, I have to get clubs in -- or I find they lead a daimond from Qxxx or the like.|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gavin:  it is only 11 but AT of trumps are great and KQxx in @D are very nice points|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: Vul at IMPs -- yes -- can't fool around with inviting.|pg||
nt|gavin:  and at this vulnerability partners 2@S opening would show quite a nice hand|pg||
pc|cK|nt|chorush: and it would be, if spades were behaving|pg||
nt|lc: It looks like @CAK @DA and a trump trick.  |pg||
nt|ritong: brad should consider right now what to do on @s 10|pg||
nt|lc: Can anything possibly go wrong?  Declarer unlikely to be able to do anything coupy.  (A word I just made up).|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg||
nt|gavin:  fleisher will be confused by moss encouraging clubs if gitelman doesnt play a third round|pg||
nt|gavin:  there is a lot of business here|pg||
nt|gavin:  gitelman has to fear partner having a singleton club|pg||
nt|lc: On the surface, it doesn't look like East can lose his trump trick -- but, we're not exactly 100% ready to award -1.|pg||
nt|gavin:  so neglecting to cash the ace now would leave his clubs stranded|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: bathroom break-everyone but Gitelman just left|pg||
nt|lc: I'm leaving this all in everyone else's capable hands -- should be a great finish -- 23 more deals.  Enjoy everyone -- and thanks to all of you...|pg||
nt|lc: GOod night.|pg||
nt|ritong: merci larry|pg||
nt|gavin:  good night larry, ty|pg||
nt|ritong: see you later|pg||
nt|chorush: good night|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
nt|ritong: oy|pg||
nt|chorush: wow|pg||
nt|gavin:  what a weird way to have not bidding bite you|pg||
nt|dinos1: shd he lead @c? How pd could know about 6cd|pg||
nt|ritong: ruffing with @s9 was not free pard can hold stiff Q|pg||
nt|chorush: On the other hand, with the ace of diamond meaning declarer could do nothing, should Moss have discouraged?|pg||
nt|dinos1: ruffing w/9 wd let make if dcl reads@s position|pg||
nt|chorush: If partner shifts, what does he care|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d2|nt|gavin:  yes very good point|pg||
nt|kit: hi everybody|pg||
nt|gavin:  sometimes we have to mislead partner to get them to do something safe|pg||
nt|gavin:  hi kit|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|ritong: hi kit|pg||
nt|chorush: only hand it could begin to matter on is if declarer had KQxxxx AKJ Jx xx and Fred shifted to heart|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|sT|nt|gavin:  this was extremely difficult to visualize for moss because partner didnt overcall|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|gavin:  strange not to just draw trumps and finish with the diamonds|pg||
nt|gavin:  ahh i was a trick early|pg||
nt|dinos1: they will duck @dA|pg||
nt|gavin:  sorry|pg||
pc|d6|nt|gavin:  thought A@D was gone :)|pg||
pc|h4|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SKQ7532HAK4DJ4CT4,S8HJT3DT73CAKJ653,SATH9876DKQ52CQ82,SJ964HQ52DA986C97|sv|b|nt|ritong: on the other hand, 3@s will close the auction more often than not|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: loud discussion from hall, kibitzer gail greenberg hurries to close door|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: he claimed 7 on a squeeze but ns objected|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: director has been nagging the players about being slow now he says|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: they might not be able to play all the boards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: just another push|pg||
nt|ahollan1: :)|pg||
nt|ritong: on the other hand, if game is cold and his counterparts find @ds too, it would be an important loss|pg||
nt|dburn: Stansby, who has to cling to the hope that he can beat the hand somehow, won't keep hearts|pg||
nt|ahollan1: from 2010 trials    http://usbf.org/docs/2010usbc/acblcards/MartelStansby.jpg|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: So Katz' double transformed a loss to a gain. Hard to blame Stansby for thinking that 3NT wasn't going to make|pg||
nt|rhelle: another testing board|pg||
nt|chorush: Big opportunity here for diamond|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other match this was push at 7@S=|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|harmon: they were right too|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|jillan:  how to stay out of game here|pg||
nt|rhelle: 9 boards played, 45-45. Incredible match|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 11-15 HCP, 6+@C|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Diamond-Platnick really put on pressure in other room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://usbf.org/docs/2010usbc/acblcards/GrecoHampson.jpg|pg||
mb|1N!|an|F|nt|ahollan1: i believe 3@S is just natural Game Force|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oops   there is another 7@S hand coming   it was a swing in Grue match|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: were they? wasn't North going to be show-up-squeezed in hearts and clubs?|pg||
nt|hedyg: i think so|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sry i always try to say when declarer claims t1 because people ask why I didn't type in the cards that went by|pg||
nt|ahollan1: actually other room only on 59   but other match at least 4 boards faster|pg||
nt|ritong: muller has to move|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and good interference in our room too|pg||
nt|ritong: i think 3@s is @s and @c, since likely 2@s would be forcing already|pg||
nt|ahollan1:  13 is that pushed grand|pg||
nt|chorush: They have received the same sort of preemption here with one important difference: Greco knows that Hampson has a GAME FORCE with spades|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: director just walked in, warning upcoming|pg||
nt|chorush: In the other room it went 1C-1D-1S so North's hand was very ill-defined|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ritong: mrs greenberg is brad's mom|pg||
nt|algraves: so cheek and gure play negative doubles after 2NT unusual|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: south said he was able to pitch|pg||
nt|chorush: A double by Katz here might have turned what will be a minus into a plus|pg||
nt|jillan:  yes a double from Katz wold have made it a bit simpled for Nickell|pg||
nt|ritong: probably 2@s hoping pard can bid NTs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: greco hand is HUGE on this auction|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on 25  Fleisher has read Kit's book -- opens 3@H|pg||
nt|dinos1: :)|pg||
nt|kit: interesting that Weinstein redoubles -- I would think most expert pairs bid 1@S on that hand rather than show points|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: grue coulda pitched his q of d|pg||
nt|dburn: he was right about that|pg||
nt|ahollan1: interesting DBL|pg||
nt|ritong: no matter what, south has a rockcrusher for @ss|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but can Hampson envision @H void?    no way they bid the grand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but big gain just be getting to 6level|pg||
nt|chorush: Since Hampson has received a grand slam invitation, he may be able to bid it now with his trumps|pg||
mb|3S|nt|harmon: no diff|pg||
nt|wstuart: Surely Nick will bid here, prob 5@C rather than 4NT.|pg||
nt|chorush: Mind you Katz has a terrible hand but he does have what he knows are a wasted AK of hearts|pg||
nt|wstuart: wrong again.|pg||
nt|dinos1: and now 3@s will be GF?|pg||
nt|kit: and Platnick's takeout double with 2-1 in majors wouldn't be a popular choice either|pg||
nt|dinos1: oh, sry, PH :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1:  25  Fleisher in 3@HX|pg||
nt|kit: can't be GF, as passed hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: grue needed Q10 of d|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|chorush: looks like a misunderstanding here|pg||
nt|wstuart: Tough decision between 5@C and 4NT|pg||
nt|rhelle: that will be 11 tricks and 3 IMPs - bringing the match exactly level|pg||
nt|ritong: on the other hand, he s not certain small slam will be bid other room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this will be good hand for partnership discussion  --   greco's choices of 5@H, 5N, 6@D  ....|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: other rooms visible via http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: hmmm|pg||
nt|jillan:  don't think Nickell tought pass was NF|pg||
nt|ritong: oh|pg||
nt|ritong: and an accident, like a @c ruff, can happen|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well last few hands we've sure seen some      weird|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Fleisher in 4@S|pg||
nt|dburn: that won't make - but this will|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ritong: makeable|pg||
nt|ritong: auction is crystal|pg||
nt|ahollan1: create doubt -- might help explain how Diamond team won the World Championships in Philly|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Rosenblum Cup|pg||
nt|ritong: this looks like a deciding board|pg||
nt|dburn: of course, GIB would lead a club and duck it, but Martel will lead a diamond|pg||
pc|d4|nt|ritong: guess @ds and bye bye clara|pg||
nt|bg: personally I am not a fan of not bidding out shape the 3 club bid could be an artificial force in some structures I would bid 4 clubs over 3 spades and show the shape|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i thought @CK to @D finesse was mirage|pg||
nt|ritong: a decision, al|pg||
nt|ahollan1: seems extra chances if low @D from hand|pg||
nt|ritong: the guess is: who has @d Hx|pg||
nt|ritong: when south can have @d HHx, i agree small to ten is better|pg||
nt|dburn: might have been easier in hearts, this|pg||
nt|jillan:  this will cost....|pg||
pc|dT|nt|ritong: pass over 1@s is three @ss and mini values|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|chorush: will be down 2 since Martel won't get th diamond lead he was hoping for|pg||
nt|ritong: difficult to diagnose what went through their minds, but the difference between the two auctions is brad's surprising double|pg||
nt|dinos1: still better quickly to show the main value - good @s suit|pg||
pc|sA|nt|vugraphzfe: east says he forgot pass was forcing|pg||
pc|s6|nt|ritong: now of course, if north ducks smoothly..|pg||
nt|ritong: redouble is " please look closer"|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ritong: and pass over 2@h is " no, really sorry mate"|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: brad sees dummy, calls director, suggests ginossar has broken tempo over 2@S|pg||
nt|ritong: my perso style would be a fitjump in 2@s after pass|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|ritong: showing 5@s 4@d inviting values|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: none of these players will pass immediately with no problem as some others do|pg||
nt|dburn: in spades, declarer will have to pick up the trumps|pg||
nt|dburn: and he may not have the entries to do it, once he finds that East has four|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: after @SA lead @Dx seems even clearer -- then @DA and if suit not running, hope for 5@C 1@D 2@H 1@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if North wins @D -- well you're no worse off|pg||
nt|bg: only hopr her is a low dia play N for doubleton honor|pg||
nt|ahollan1: retraction -- just noticed @C discard from trick 1|pg||
nt|dburn: GIB would make it, of course, but although Cheek is a terrific player, he doesn't make everything that GIB would|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|ritong: gitelmoss certainly reserv that to an other handtype|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ginossar seemed upset by the director call, takes some time to compose himself|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ritong: he had to decide early|pg||
nt|ahollan1: lucky layout for declarer in @C suit|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe that should have been @D|pg||
nt|algraves: the downside to 2 suited interference is the distributional information it gives away|pg||
nt|dburn: Cheek may have been uncertain as to whether 4@h was an offer to play, or a control-bid for spades|pg||
nt|dburn: if he'd known it was the former, he'd almost certainly have passed it|pg||
nt|ritong: up to you to draw your own conclusions|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that's it -- he gave them a chance to go wrong - and they accepted|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now @C duck = 9th trick|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|c5|pc|h6|nt|harmon: he cant make it|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|harmon: play ht now|pg||
nt|harmon: needs hts 2-2|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion|pg||
nt|dburn: belay all of that - four spades did make somehow|pg||
nt|dburn: but this won't|pg||
pc|s7|nt|dburn: if he loses a heart to West and a fourth round of diamonds is played...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but actually NS right in a sense    they needed a swing and 3N wasn't going to get one|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in 4@S 2 rounds of @C from Gitelman|pg||
pc|hT|nt|jillan:  ahh, ok, THAT explains it|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s9|pg||
nt|ritong: he will learn|pg||
nt|harmon: HE NEEDED the heart hook of he couldnt make it|pg||
nt|dburn: ...well, I guess he can handle that, but if one isn't played, he can't pick the spades up|pg||
nt|harmon: or|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and line of play  possibly intentionally different in hopes of swing|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ritong: smells like a push|pg||
nt|algraves: nice defense of course|pg||
nt|dburn: he might, though, have decided not to finesse hearts - he could make by finessing clubs instead|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|ritong: stay stoic|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other match  on  25  Cheek also passed after 3@H-DBL|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c9|nt|ahollan1: need Michael Rosenberg or Bart Bramley for the single-dummy analysis|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ritong: for that matter, if someone has to get upset, it is rather pachtmann|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry  3 rounds -- took care of trump loser|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pg||
nt|algraves: interesting after the thrid @D , |pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|nt|ritong: ...|pg||
nt|ritong: who had an obvious call, especially in a trailing context, so nothing mean will happen|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss stretches, sighs, taps on the table|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cT|pg||
nt|algraves: that was fine play by Versace|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h2|mc|8|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1SKJTHAKDAKJCAKQ43,SAQ865H65DQ74C982,S97HQJT842DT98CT7,S432H973D6532CJ65|sv|o|nt|gavin:  only 28 for fleisher|pg||
nt|gavin:  the trick is to get to hearts from south |pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|gavin:  6@H goes down played by north on a spade lead|pg||
mb|2D!|an|0-1 controls|mb|p|nt|chorush: but south is going to kokish here I think|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|chorush: guess not|pg||
nt|dinos1: is 3N long minor?|pg||
nt|kit: probably still play transfers|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|gavin:  fleisher i think gave up on slam knowing he was off the ace of spades (2@D denied an ace)|pg||
nt|kit: oops|pg||
nt|gavin:  i dont know if 3NT showed this strong of a hand for them|pg||
nt|kit: lucky clubs 3-3 or this could be going down|pg||
nt|gavin:  very few people discuss how to bid their 28 counts|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: sounds like 3nt was just to play|pg||
pc|s6|nt|kit: clearly Kamil thought 3NT was the long minor type of hand |pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg||
nt|dinos1: to play = have 7+ solid minor|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|nt|gavin:  must be frustrating to be in 3NT with 28 points , 4 stranded heart tricks in dummy and fears of going down|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|h2|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c4|nt|gavin:  who knew it wasn't his 28 points which saved him, it was his 3 and 4 of clubs|pg||
nt|dinos1: if @c4-2 there's still the chance W has @dQ|pg||
nt|chorush: valuable hand for Kokish. Then 3NT would be the long minor kind of hand|pg||
nt|kit: West would need 6 spades for contract to be in jeopardy|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg||
pc|c3|pc|h5|pc|s7|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hA|nt|kit: just cash hearts and clubs, and toss West in with spade|pg||
pc|s5|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg||
nt|dinos1: @hAK, @d endplay|pg||
pc|hK|nt|kit: now squeeze-endplay, and will be easy to read I think|pg||
pc|d7|pc|hT|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dQ|mc|11|pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1SKJTHAKDAKJCAKQ43,SAQ865H65DQ74C982,S97HQJT842DT98CT7,S432H973D6532CJ65|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: very intriguing hand   and records will say  "just a push"|pg||
nt|dburn: still, declarer should probably have made it given the bidding|pg||
nt|wstuart: Nip and tuck, Fleisher back on top now.|pg||
nt|chorush: Hampson Greco will worry that they have lost 13 imps and be very pleased to discover they have won 13|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the key quesiton   what would greco bid with @HX  @DAx|pg||
mb|1C!|an|16+|mb|1S|nt|rhelle: and another interesting hand ...|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 1@s = relay|pg||
nt|ahollan1: grue-cheek table finishing up board 31  |pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D=@D & @H/@S   if Weinstein bids|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: how does he make after the ruff sluff?|pg||
nt|chorush: Its a good question Al, but with his Jxxx of trumps I personally don't think he would bid 6D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe the real point    opponent interference makes confident small/grand slam bidding very difficult|pg||
nt|ahollan1: "if"   what a wimpy word Al|pg||
nt|harmon: 6h from the short side|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS have had more than their share of strong 1@C this set|pg||
mb|d|nt|ahollan1: with 3 to score   O'Rourke leads Nickell by 7|pg||
nt|wstuart: I think DBL showed a 5+ card minor + 4 card major?|pg||
nt|chorush: yes, I assume 2 diamonds asks for pass or correction to major|pg||
nt|ybob: sus aperturas van de 11 a 15, 1@C de 16 +|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 1@H or 1@s?|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1NT = 4+ @s|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@c = relay|pg||
nt|ahollan1: since other room didn't get to slam    small vs grand  insignificant imp difference|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: director "you need to hurry"|pg||
nt|dburn: Martel may be a little worried at this point|pg||
mb|2H|nt|wstuart: It's interesting that Martel didn't jam with 3@H here - I guess he thought he had enough defense with both majors that he wasn't worried about getting outbid.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: diredctor "the boards ween't that hard at at any other table"|pg||
nt|ritong: ...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other match has finished 1st Quarter    Grue over Kang  57-35|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: hampson " i promise we won't play ant faster with you standing over the table"|pg||
nt|ritong: uh oh|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 3@h = 4=6=2=1 exactly|pg||
nt|chorush: battle of nerves here|pg||
nt|poohbear: The  " I hope they run " redouble|pg||
nt|ahollan1: notice Support DBL even when Hampson's 1@S implies 5+|pg||
nt|chorush: 4Hxx down 2 with trumps led early|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i say implies since not sure if they'll bid 1@S with really good 4-card suit|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ritong: 3@h now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i thought previous set 1N was Semi-Force     maybe Semi over 1@H and absolute over 1@S|pg||
nt|ritong: can t be 4, since 2@d denied 4@h imo|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: he cant unless ht onside that was my point|pg||
nt|harmon: Im glad u know the relays Rob:)|pg||
nt|rhelle: by heart :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: I try to get the info the write down on notepads and pass around but sometimes no one asks|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: they|pg||
nt|rhelle: Now North has choices ... 3@s = strong relay, only asks controls|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@c = weak relay, asks for max and controls|pg||
mb|4H|nt|harmon: before everyone yelled at mne lol|pg||
nt|chorush: Not that often that 2NT is right as "save" over 2 spades; here it is going to make when 2 spades also would have made (I think)|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@d = signoff, asks partner to bid 4@h, so that he can pass or bid the final contract|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Hampson's PASS 0-4 HCP|pg||
nt|harmon: This is Davids usual rubber bridge hand(eric's)|pg||
nt|dburn: Martel's likewise, but at least Hampson has a maximum|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Greco visibly not happy with 4@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: curiously Greco too strong to be able to play the hand -- other situations Hampson would be able to transfer|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: lets see if fred can save 1 imp making 9|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss trying to find an escort to leave the room and ginossar tells him just to go|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: some back and forth between boards about the alleged tempo break|pg||
nt|wstuart: is it better for katz to dbl again?|pg||
nt|rhelle: and 4@s = a slight invitation|pg||
nt|chorush: potentially 600 coming provided a trump shift is made after the first club lead|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|wstuart: Asked by a spec;  I think His DBL of 2@S is probably more strongly penalty oriented.|pg||
nt|chorush: Depends on what their methods are. They might as well not play 2 spades dbld because I don't think they will beat it. Could be wrong though|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: whoa baby   Fleisher just picked up another 10    2 to play  Fleisher leads Nickell by 16|pg||
nt|ritong: fred could try for slam|pg||
nt|ritong: like 4@c|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think Fleisher vs Diamond would be rematch from final of the 2010 Team Trials  and  final of 2010 spingold??|pg||
nt|ritong: his hand is limited|pg||
nt|ritong: but he took the low road|pg||
nt|ritong: (confidentially, he knows brad can be overactive in finishing situations)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: asking for @H shift instead of giving away @C position|pg||
nt|dinos1: and dcl may think E has @h suit|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|bg: fred the magician can only make 3 if N plays 3 rounds of spades|pg||
nt|ritong: he has 8 on top and NS can try to establish a long @s|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: try to code THAT into GIB/Deep Finesse|pg||
pc|sA|nt|vugraphzfe: director said if tray passes back within 25 seconds it is not a break in tempo|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: and @H5 doesn't help clarify |pg||
nt|dburn: I guess, if the auction started 2@c-2@d-2@h Kokish, you might have a shot|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|harmon: Diamond will jump out to a huge lead this board 1 matbe 2 imps!!!:)|pg||
pc|s5|pc|c7|pc|s4|nt|ritong: cashing time|pg||
nt|bg: or leads a third dia:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: you all think the 4@H bid is ok?|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|algraves: yes , ptich heart on third diamond , Q@S, low@S to J|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but maybe @H6 discard on @CA did|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and that would apply over 1@C-1@D//2@H|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|nt|ritong: good move|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|hedyg: specs all bid 2@d|pg||
nt|ritong: and anyways, knowing the @c shortness, his @c holding was not pretty|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: Greco should get this right|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: nearly 30 minutes behind|pg||
nt|chorush: A spec has pointed out that Levin's redbl will cost only 3 imps relative to passing and that it had the potential to turn a minus into a plus|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if hampson had played !AH @H  then might be harder for south|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 22 minutes remain on clock   so according to new/frequently documented ACBL rules -- we may see some boards removed from play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: toughest play now is   "smooth duck"|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but the overcall gummed up the works|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cT|nt|algraves: club finesse , A and @H|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|hQ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: we know greco's play should be easy -- but at the table ALL of these players would have taken time to verify that before playing small @C|pg||
pc|h9|mc|11|pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2SK6HKDAT853CK9762,SQT9543H87DJ4CA53,S8HAJT9654D76CJ84,SAJ72HQ32DKQ92CQT|sv|n|nt|kit: good style points for Gitelman -- nobody is end-playing him|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|gavin:  Kamil has a strange hand, he is the partner with short spades, so passing can lead to him missing a game |pg||
nt|gavin:  but he is so weak|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|kit: yes, but bidding 3@H puts you in jeopardy of the third opponent taking you seriously|pg||
mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|gavin:  exactly, a 3@H bid when partner is strong will often lead to getting too high|pg||
nt|gavin:  cant be perfect, but pass seems sensible|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: of course now Kamil wonders if he has been stolen blind|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: dummy will reassure him|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ritong: partially|pg||
nt|kit: even with this start, 3@S hasn't made yet|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ritong: because now west has a fair idea about @s K location|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
nt|gavin:  and club king|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|kit: however, South will be end-played after ruffing this trick|pg||
nt|ritong: no overcall on @h AJxxxxx plus @s K would be curious|pg||
nt|gavin:  west has a roadmap|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s6|pc|h8|pg||
nt|gavin:  Kamil had no choice but to lead the @H Jack here|pg||
nt|gavin:  often when we give our partners a ruff we try to tell them which suit to play back|pg||
nt|gavin:  but here if he lead any heart other than the jack, declarer could play low from dummy and south would think declarer holds the jack|pg||
nt|kit: right -- if he didn't lead the jack, declarer would have ducked and Fleisher would have to ruff thinking declarer had the jack|pg||
nt|dinos1: even if exit w/@sK S will be endplayed in @d's later|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg||
pc|d2|nt|kit: Fleisher picturing declarer with a third heart, so he doesn't want to set up a minor-suit trick|pg||
nt|gavin:  there will be a swing on this board, ew are in 4@S doubled in the other room|pg||
nt|gavin:  on a diamond opening lead|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SK6HKDAT853CK9762,SQT9543H87DJ4CA53,S8HAJT9654D76CJ84,SAJ72HQ32DKQ92CQT|sv|n|nt|vugraphzfe: moss comes back and apologizes: "don't want to imply anything", shakes pachtmann's hand, says "we'll talk about it in the bar"|pg||
nt|harmon: then what|pg||
nt|algraves: then claim|pg||
nt|wstuart: What a fine set of actoin hands we are seeing.|pg||
nt|dinos1: 3@hX only -1?|pg||
nt|dinos1: b.25|pg||
mb|2S|nt|harmon: how|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: if brad opens, they will prolly be in 4NT|pg||
nt|ritong: hm|pg||
nt|ahollan1: grue-cheek, the speed demons  are on board 16|pg||
nt|dburn: meanwhile, 3NT wasn't cold - if East had a club stop, it might not have made|pg||
mb|3S|nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: curious that Moss opens playing 2/1  and Verhees did NOT playing a Big Club system|pg||
nt|dburn: then, he has the ace and jack of spades, and the lead is in dummy|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=11-15 HCP  (3)4+@D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: they're 7 boards ahead of their other table|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 1@s = 9+, 4+@h, unbalanced|pg||
mb|p|nt|harmon: potential slam here|pg||
nt|rhelle: so NS are now in a GF situation|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but my copy of CC has been wrong a couple times this set :(|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ritong: 4NT swish|pg||
nt|harmon: hts havent been played|pg||
nt|ahollan1: comparisons thru 8   Grue 143  Kang 86|pg||
nt|dburn: wonder what Martel is thinking of doing? doubling? passing? saving?|pg||
mb|4S|nt|hedyg: NS play precision so 1@D can be many kinds of hands|pg||
nt|ahollan1: apparently NS don't open bal 11 with Precision 1@D   [makes sense with North hand -- especially vul]|pg||
nt|dburn: the last of those|pg||
mb|d|nt|wstuart: very nice slam - hard to bid.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: for specs unfamiliar with the treatment    2N showed Balanced Game Force   a totally new concept that was introduced in 1920s|pg||
nt|bg: this pair obviously use 2nt as a balanced openig bid vs others who use Jacoby--both styles have their merits|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: that sounds right according to their pre alert|pg||
nt|ritong: i love that 3@h bid|pg||
nt|ritong: meaning " i would open 3@h"|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: awkward for South, this|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kamil never bid  Gitelman in 3@S|pg||
mb|p|pc|d7|nt|wstuart: Did east miss his chance by not splintering over the 2@H rebid?|pg||
nt|chorush: Yes, Wayne, slam is quite good and hard to bid. I always have trouble when I don't start with a direct forcing raise. Let's see if Katz does better than I would|pg||
nt|dinos1: no intermediates at all!|pg||
nt|wstuart: my ass is sore|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Levin "i liked it alot, .... obviously!)|pg||
pc|d2|nt|dburn: some danger here - if Greco thinks that's a singleton, he might...|pg||
nt|harmon: cant beat the hand|pg||
nt|bigtrain: might cash the @HK before a second @D which saves the day (partially)|pg||
nt|dburn: he can beat it, but not if he wins this trick|pg||
nt|ahollan1: cute position|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: long pause by Greco, "sorry" with shake of head|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @DA is right only if hampson can ruff 2nd round|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but  ducking feels like might lead to later endplay|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: second "sorry"|pg||
nt|dburn: even if that diamond were a singleton, it could still be right to duck - but not if declarer had the ace and jack of clubs|pg||
nt|dburn: so this is a truly awful problem for Greco - but after his earlier defence to 3NT, I would back him to go right|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and that's where Greco is  ---  what if Geoff did NOT lead singleton|pg||
pc|dA|nt|chorush: Most partnerships have a rule that there are generally no new suits bid at the four level. So 4D is a cue for heartswith slam interest|pg||
nt|harmon: huge lead probably gone now|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|dburn: while saying that I myself would have let this through an hour ago|pg||
pc|d5|nt|hedyg: what a lead|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|dinos1: @hK is rather over so will play @hA low @h|pg||
nt|ahollan1: looks like tough problem for Diamond at trick 2  -- starts with what Platnick's carding is when dummy shows singleton @S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kit  in context of standard carding  ---  what should 3rd hands play show at trick 1?|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|pg||
nt|hedyg: Liz the tables dont seem to be connected?|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|jillan:  well done Nick|pg||
nt|chorush: vwd and will duly make|pg||
nt|wstuart: a well earned push/|pg||
nt|ritong: all these considerations about preempting pard etc are not really reliable  preempts are precise bids  here muller has a textbook 3@h good suit, no outside values|pg||
pc|s8|nt|vugraphzfe: fred calling cards so softly moss has to ask|pg||
nt|chorush: In slam bidding, there is a special responsibility placed upon the partner who holds the AK of trumps. His partner is doing all this inviting without them, so... should strain to ...|pg||
nt|chorush: accept|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|dK|nt|wstuart: from a spec:  "I don't understand the bidding - West seems to have pushed to slam when East should have been the one doing so?"|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: meckwell went for 1100 on final board  against a vul game -- so it really does look like Diamond v Fleisher  tomorrow in the Semi-Finals|pg||
nt|dinos1: usually SP but when pd has lack of spot cards it's unclear|pg||
nt|ahollan1: too bad   Kit has left the room :(|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: brutal problem for Greco|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|rhelle: might even be a deficit|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|wstuart: West ahdn't show any extra values at 3@H - 4@D showed slam interest opposite a potential min;  now west has a very good hand.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|dinos1: now ruff @s, @c to 7, @cA, @s ruff ...|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|hedyg: bd 10 Seamon played in 4@H and made it|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: I don't know, I have no control over that connection|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: but i will try to find out about it|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty Liz|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i wonder if there really is good argument for him to get it right|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3SK97HA943D953CQ64,S8543HJ7DKQT8CJ53,SATHKQ52DJ72CAK98,SQJ62HT86DA64CT72|sv|b|nt|gavin:  either 9 imps to fleisher if they make or 7 to diamond if they go down|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|gavin:  their declarer has a lot of info from the bidding as well|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|gavin:  an easy 10 tricks here with everything breaking well and no diamond lead|pg||
nt|ritong: at last a resting hand|pg||
nt|kit: lead blows a trick, but he is lucky it is only an overtrick|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s8|nt|gavin:  terrible hand to lead from |pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg||
nt|kit: hard to avoid spade lead, but I think leading an honor is better|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d4|pc|h9|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3SK97HA943D953CQ64,S8543HJ7DKQT8CJ53,SATHKQ52DJ72CAK98,SQJ62HT86DA64CT72|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: i think Culbertson's 2N was forcing too|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: played the club 9 on the last|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sort of my way of saying  --   i don't think any single player is to blame for this table being slow|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Diamond-Platnick stopped in 6@S|pg||
mb|1C!|an|16+|nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 1@d = 0-8|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: for the extra trick|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: then claimed|pg||
mb|1H!|an|8--11|nt|passell: 6 diamonds was a great result in the other room  a bad contract that made|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: thought Acol introduced 2N as invite  and artificial Game Force was Ozzie & Jim Jacoby  early 60s??|pg||
nt|harmon: oh yea lol|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@h = 19+|pg||
nt|dinos1: 2@d by W|pg||
mb|1N|an|17-18|nt|wstuart: Does the 3rd segment of these 64 boards start at 8p local time (5p BBO time)?|pg||
nt|wstuart: The operator says yes.|pg||
nt|chorush: The 3 dominant teams in American bridge over the past couple of years have been the two you are watching here and Diamond. The winner of this match will face Diamond should Diamond ...|pg||
nt|chorush: win today|pg||
nt|jillan:  will maybe be in bed by then...it is 11 pm here now...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: THIS is the hand that was pushed at 7@S= min the Grue-Kang match|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: not sure about their style, but this @c Ax is surely worth an effort|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C must deny 3+@S|pg||
nt|wstuart: Spec asks what is the diff between the 2@S cue and a potential 2@C cue.|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@h = 2=2=5=4 exactly, 6-8 points|pg||
nt|passell: moss may raise 5dia though|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other SemiFinal  thru 25   Grue [ 21 seed] 97  vs  Kang [ 41] 53|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H denies 5+@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and establishes Game Force|pg||
mb|2H!|nt|passell: hard not to|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: Many play that the higher cue is more trumps and less HCP then the lower cue.|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@h also promises at least 1 control, so North will be wondering what to do next. 6@d looks possible|pg||
nt|harmon: can he have 2 controls??|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@s asks for controls|pg||
mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|hedyg: bd 9 6NT +1|pg||
nt|passell: well done|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wonder what 2@S-P-P-4@S shows?|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: 2@S-P-P-4@C/@D often @H & the minor|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2N would have been relay for more info    not sure about implications of direct 3@C|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: just not sure if 6th @C shown|pg||
nt|chorush: different pairs have different uses. Could be 2 spades shows 4 card support and 2C shows 3. Each to his own|pg||
nt|passell: needs 2 3-2 breaks and a lot more|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i think double dummy defense can set this 4    starts with @H lead|pg||
nt|ritong: now a battle of undertricks|pg||
nt|ritong: three looks like a lot of them|pg||
nt|ahollan1: then they must untangle @S winners while retaining transportation in @H -- extremely unlikely|pg||
nt|bg: rebid of the minor usually shows 6 with 3 hearts better to raise hearts with unbalanced hand|pg||
nt|ritong: but|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right Bruce -- but there is slight impact playing transfer responses|pg||
nt|ritong: try @c hook, loses, a @h back|pg||
nt|hedyg: bd 11 3@H -2|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: now the contract makes with @d K on|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: players still discussing last hand, can it be beat legit?|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: depending on 1N rebid -- 1@H can be used to show exactly 3@H [1N=weak balanced hand] or 2/3@H  [1N=18-19]|pg||
nt|harmon: Hedy why u disconnect tables??|pg||
nt|ritong: offer him an entry!|pg||
nt|passell: if the Q of clubs didnt fall would need that hand to have 2 trumps|pg||
nt|ritong: pitch @d J|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: i like how he thinks  he says sorry if you can make 7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@C from Levin??|pg||
nt|dinos1: 4@c by W - 4@h by E)|pg||
pc|s7|nt|ritong: so 3@h 2@s 1@c 1@d|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann picked up his bidding cards, trying to end the auction before the tray passed back. perhaps has given up|pg||
nt|hedyg: moi?|pg||
nt|harmon: vous|pg||
nt|hedyg: jamais!|pg||
nt|hedyg: score is 28-7|pg||
nt|hedyg: for Cayne|pg||
nt|wstuart: However, there is a difference when you have overcalled 1M and 1m - when you've overcalled 1m 3NT is a likely contract and it is useful to play that you cue the one that you have a ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: stopper in, while after 1M the number of trumps and hand type is more important.|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: he is facing his hand|pg||
nt|wstuart: I don't know what the NS undersdtanding is here.|pg||
nt|jillan:  a wll played match with a lot of interesting hands and actions|pg||
nt|dburn: yes|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry  don't know what 2@H bid asks/shows |pg||
pc|hK|nt|vugraphzfe: pachtmann toying with his cards, trick 1 still faced|pg||
nt|chorush: This seems very hard hand to bid to grand because each hand had features that are essential to the success of the contract and they meld very well|pg||
nt|ahollan1: good idea from spec   2N with 4@S  other bids guarantee 5+@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 5@S = 2 Key Cards + Q|pg||
pc|h6|nt|rhelle: at least they managed to right-side it - should be a few overtricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not clear if Levin has shown @C shortness|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i should have waited a minute   Grue just picked up another 12|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
nt|dburn: but it is far too complicated to go into here - all I can say is that if Greco didn't beat it, maybe no human being could|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|nt|ritong: steve won t like the dummy|pg||
nt|ritong: too good|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now it is clear that Levin did NOT ever show his @C singleton|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h5|nt|ritong: tsk tsk|pg||
pc|hT|nt|bg: do you try to make or play dia ace and concede down one;)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: screen lowered while moss whispers a question|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: stretches, sighs, cracks his knuckles behind his head|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: certainly not acting like the match is decided|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if 3@C was natural slam try -- then Levin 4@C probably shows @C HONOR  rather than shortness|pg||
pc|hA|nt|harmon: Versace/Lauria playing GREAT!!!!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but 3N looks like good spot  -- especially since @D 43 and not led|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Greco " ask GIB"|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s4|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: Fleisher-Kamil in 3@S on 27  [Diamond made 2@S]    resulting from different range 1N opener|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: jeff meckstroth:  they still pay bonus for making game, don't they?|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|cA|nt|vugraphzfe: may be forced to get it right from here|pg||
nt|ritong: completely so|pg||
nt|ritong: just exit a @h, just in case|pg||
nt|dburn: seven just about with the odds - some chances over and above 4-3 diamonds - but close|pg||
pc|c2|nt|dburn: that is, assuming a trump lead|pg||
nt|ritong: hi david|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and on that reference  with 2 to score   O'Rourke leads Nickell by 12|pg||
pc|c8|nt|ritong: not anymore|pg||
nt|ritong: so, @c QJ on and good bye|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sets his hand down, sighs again.  really sweating this one|pg||
pc|c7|nt|bg: they also pay 5 imps for being down 200 less just a point of view|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: no scores posted but they will filter onto  http://bridgewinners.com/round-of-16|pg||
pc|sK|pc|cJ|mc|11|pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SAKQT82H7DK987CQ5,SJ754HAKT96D32CK3,S93HJ53DAQT5CJ974,S6HQ842DJ64CAT862|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|kista: ccc|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: lucky|pg||
nt|chorush: 2 spades feels like a big underbid here|pg||
nt|kit: Very conservative 2@S call -- he gets lucky on 4-1 split|pg||
nt|gavin:  its not that conservative in their methods|pg||
nt|gavin:  they play 2@S opener is like 8-11|pg||
nt|gavin:  so this is a solid 12-15|pg||
nt|ritong: fleisher will not like the dummy, if moss passes|pg||
nt|kit: Even given that, I would bid 3@S on South hand|pg||
nt|gavin:  its still conservative|pg||
nt|gavin:  yea|pg||
mb|p|pc|hK|nt|gavin:  sometimes when you play a convention like that, you want the good hands to come up so much that you over use them |pg||
nt|gavin:  (in this case the ability to avoid jumping to 3@S on close hands)|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg||
nt|gavin:  if fleishers spades were a little weaker then 2@D would be perfect|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sA|nt|gavin:  waiting to hear if partner has two spades with a 2@S bid and then raise to 3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s9|nt|gavin:  but with spades this strong he doesnt mind playing spades opposite a singleton|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|c4|nt|kit: assuming partner will always preference|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SAKQT82H7DK987CQ5,SJ754HAKT96D32CK3,S93HJ53DAQT5CJ974,S6HQ842DJ64CAT862|sv|o|nt|rhelle: surely North ditched a @h :)|pg||
nt|passell: yes not putting him in dummy made it fool proof|pg||
nt|dburn: actually, that was rubbish|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other room is bidding  16 -- the final board of 3rd Quarter|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: bd 12 S is playing 4@h|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: were no cards played for those who asked other than the opening lead|pg||
mb|1S|nt|rhelle: 1NT = good 12 to 15|pg||
nt|ahollan1: just the kind of hand EW want at this point|pg||
nt|dburn: well, if their opponents had made 6NT at the other table, they might not want it|pg||
nt|ahollan1: helps to have sequence that shows invite with exactly 4333|pg||
nt|dburn: 6NT was... well, I've seen worse|pg||
nt|passell: moss gittleman having their way here  their team mates dont suspect they are in this great shape|pg||
nt|warrens:  isn't it about 70%, either a finesse or 3-3 @C's or a black suit squeeze|pg||
nt|dburn: quite a lot worse, to be honest - almost convincing myself it's a good contract|pg||
nt|passell: yes  at least 70 percent slam|pg||
nt|ritong: i would be very sad not to be in it|pg||
nt|ahollan1: having seen Brad in action -- might just bid 6N here|pg||
nt|ritong: no|pg||
nt|ritong: when things come to slam, 4/4 fit is important|pg||
nt|po-s: agree|pg||
nt|dburn: I'll go out and come in again|pg||
nt|ritong: okay|pg||
nt|chorush: welcome back|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i.e.  south not forced to abandon a loser -- but when last card known to be @CQ declarer KNOWS north holds @SQ|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ritong: even with a 4333|pg||
nt|passell: doesnt matter what he does  fred is accepting anything|pg||
nt|ritong: i prepare " hi david"|pg||
nt|dburn: hello Henri|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the boyz have kicked into high[er] gear|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: director sitting on chair as only kibitzer|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ritong: ginossar/pachtmann not having fun|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nickell v O'Rourke showing  Nickell +7 with 2 to play  there is possible scoring error of 3 or 4 imps [it would be in favor of O'Rourke]|pg||
nt|hedyg: live streaming from the OR: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bridgeunion|pg||
nt|dburn: but it would have been wrong to bid eight - that really was against the odds|pg||
nt|dinos1: trf to trumps shows good raise, 2@h wd be weak|pg||
nt|ahollan1: great work getting explanations into BBO record!!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other table in Grue-Kang match only on 12    don't know if they're under time pressure or not|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: Chpis turn to get his lead directing DBL in|pg||
nt|chorush: will Katz think his hand worth a raise?|pg||
nt|wstuart: *Chip's|pg||
nt|ritong: but things do not come to slam|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: untouchable today|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S instead of 1N means Moss ON DEFENSE gets 100 honors|pg||
nt|bg: not much joy in this hand eather|pg||
nt|ritong: but imps no matter what|pg||
nt|ritong: even if few|pg||
nt|hedyg: far left is Cayne, far right Amoils|pg||
nt|rhelle: this looks like 10 tricks on a low @c lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3N?  wow  that wasn't on the list of bids to consider|pg||
nt|ahollan1: since both matches play same boards, ours cannot restart before the other match|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or if they do -- we won't get to see boards on vugraph until 2nd match restart|pg||
pc|s9|nt|rhelle: with the @hs breaking 22|pg||
nt|dburn: when did this match start?|pg||
pc|s6|nt|chorush: Nick won't|pg||
nt|wstuart: It's interesting that EW do'nt ahve any special methods here to try and get the contract played by the hand that has a @C stopper|pg||
nt|ritong: long ago|pg||
nt|dburn: I mean, on approximately what day?|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|chorush: 2:25 ago|pg||
nt|ritong: hampson and the director won t go to holidays together|pg||
nt|ahollan1: interesting non-strength showing reverse in comp   when partner has implied no 4-card major|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: very close decision from Platnick|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: but as we see  Weinstein obviously does bid 1N over DBL with 4-card major  so good to have partnership agreement|pg||
nt|harmon: great result for Fleischer in OR|pg||
pc|hT|nt|chorush: Guess that is commentator's curse|pg||
nt|wstuart: It's reasonable to play pass to say he doesn't have any reason for a @C lead to come up to his hand, then try and get the major suit contracts played by east, who might have a @C ...|pg||
nt|wstuart: stopper.|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ritong: and a @h|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d by Versace would have shown both majors|pg||
nt|rhelle: the @C 9 was upside down count - the @s2 upside down attitude|pg||
nt|rhelle: so North has an odd number of @cs and likes @ss|pg||
nt|ahollan1: likes decent 5-card spade suit opposite expected short @H in partner's hand|pg||
nt|dinos1: he knows pd has stiff @h |pg||
nt|ahollan1: now he just has to find 10 tricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: seeing all hands  he can even make overtrick --- but at the table ...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Weinstein wants to kill dummy's @C suit but can't do all of   knock out @HA  knock out @DA  tap dummy|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|wstuart: I think this might make double dummy.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|nt|ritong: best is to duck that|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred fidgeting with quitted trick, hand folded|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh  bigtrain [Walter Johnson] says if scoring error  it would be Nickell +1 with 1 to play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: amazing our match had ANY spectators|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: with bbotv can watch more than one room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: too right -- never thought about them  even though one is ME|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred finally fans his cards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but we who logged in to watch this match  saw a lot of very solid play from Diamond|pg||
nt|passell: unreal taking this position with a monster game going|pg||
nt|ahollan1: West hand looks like NT to me too|pg||
pc|cK|nt|hedyg: bd 12 5 imps to Grue, 4@H -3|pg||
nt|hedyg: 28 - 12|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Fred faced his hand to hurry things along|pg||
nt|dinos1: now @s to A|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in other room  Mike Passell just referred to EW  as  Levinstein  :)|pg||
nt|dinos1: ))|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|nt|ahollan1: wow   i'm told in other match  one room played 1NXX+1  South|pg||
pc|cA|nt|dinos1: after dcl will find out E has 3@d and 3 trumps he'll fin @cJ|pg||
nt|dinos1: ruffing fin i mean|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on 28 where EW made 4@H    the other room in 3N  by NORTH|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c6|pc|s2|pc|hK|nt|chorush: Yes, squeeze looks like it will work|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|s4|nt|bg: sometimes better to use only two entries to play on side duit like clubs which requires two finesses  and jus lead spade away from king|pg||
nt|ahollan1: whoa    de ja vu|pg||
pc|s3|nt|wstuart: if he can ruff 2@C and strip squeeze N he might do it.|pg||
nt|wstuart: complictaed, let me think....|pg||
nt|wstuart: :)|pg||
pc|h2|nt|chorush: Nick will have to believe Chip's diamond 9|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|c8|nt|ahollan1: plus in both rooms is good     when one is game  better |pg||
pc|sT|pc|h6|nt|dinos1: now @s to 8, @d ruff, claim|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d5|pc|h4|pc|sK|pg||
nt|chorush: If he believes the diamond K is offside the squeeze is his only chance|pg||
nt|wstuart: Yep, he's going to make it now if he guesses where teh @DK is|pg||
pc|cT|pc|d7|pc|h9|pc|dT|pg||
pc|s7|pc|dQ|nt|chorush: Stansby has defended well by blanking his diamond K early|pg||
pc|h8|pc|sA|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1SKQ6HKQ87DQ52C953,ST8432HATDK3CKQT7,SA75H943DJT97C864,SJ9HJ652DA864CAJ2|sv|n|nt|gavin:  typically the time its most important to avoid rebidding 3@S (1@S - 1NT: 3@S) is when your spades are weak|pg||
nt|chorush: it's a fortunate result for Fleisher and they may well win 5 imps for it|pg||
nt|gavin:  theres nothing worse than playing with a weak spade suit at the three level facing a singleton|pg||
mb|1C!|an|2 or more|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|chorush: heart suits aren't much fun either:)|pg||
nt|gavin:  or a void :)|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gavin:  finally an auction that would be relatively normal in a pair game |pg||
pc|d2|nt|kit: assuming South opens, that is|pg||
nt|gavin:  wests strength compensates for his weak spades|pg||
nt|gavin:  east with 11 highs facing a non vulnerable overcall is perfect for 1NT|pg||
nt|kit: If South hadn't opened, E-W would be higher -- probably 2NT|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|gavin:  what amazes me about this game is the volatility.  You would think two of the best teams in the world would make similar actions on a regular basis, yet there are big swings every other hand|pg||
pc|s4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|kit: differences of opinion make horse races and IMP swings|pg||
nt|gavin:  style + system leave so much in the hands of the players |pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s9|nt|chorush: well we have one pair playing Precision, one pair playing weak nt, so methods themselves can create swings|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cT|mc|7|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1SKQ6HKQ87DQ52C953,ST8432HATDK3CKQT7,SA75H943DJT97C864,SJ9HJ652DA864CAJ2|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: unofficial   Nickell beats O'Rourke by 1|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: fred mumbles sorry.  moss:"I could have played @SK at trick one"|pg||
nt|ritong: extremely unofficial|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2 possible scoring errors so stand by|pg||
nt|passell: this would have given the opponents a shot had it made|pg||
nt|ritong: they are in zeitnot, too|pg||
mb|1D|an|c b short|nt|wstuart: The Greensboro NC native has show fine card reading skills.|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ritong: not sure moss should go high with both opps passed|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
nt|ahollan1: observant spec points out 6@H makes on dummy reversal|pg||
nt|ritong: ton kooijman warned them|pg||
nt|ahollan1: since both matches playing same boards -- other match will NOT start earlier this match  [that's my story & i'm sticking to it]|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: he had to draw exactly 2 @H then play on clubs. Lauria can win thrid club and play @S but you ruff in dummy and ruff club and play last heart to dummy to draw trumps|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=10-15 HCP, 2+@D|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: moss wide-eyed at the 5@H call|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@d = 0-8|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: bd 13 2@s by E|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2 scores in  Fleisher leads by 37 over Onstott    Berg over Lynch by 74|pg||
nt|chorush: One moral of this story is that when you play cards to help partner, it may help declarer as much or more. the diamond 9 was a tipoff, with the K he would have no reason to ...|pg||
nt|chorush: discourage a diamond return|pg||
nt|wstuart: 3NT on these auctions shows specifically long and good @D since 2NT would be bid on 18-19 bal hands.|pg||
nt|chorush: I think Nick's hand is too good for his action|pg||
nt|wstuart: Nice point, Ira|pg||
nt|wstuart: Yes, he|pg||
nt|chorush: Both sides make exactly 3 of major on this hand. A triumph for the law of total tricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2+@D  [they play Precision 2@D opening  3-suit 0/1@D]|pg||
pc|hK|nt|ritong: !|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@c = 16-18, 5+@c, NF|pg||
pc|hA|nt|wstuart: *he's definitely heavy for 3NT.|pg||
nt|dinos1: 2@s|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3N was down 1  so another 8 for Fleisher  who are 54-28 for the set|pg||
nt|ahollan1: play is faster than 1st set, but not nearly as solid|pg||
pc|h4|nt|wstuart: However, it may be a least of evils decision - I don't know their methods well enough to undersdtand his other consideratoins.|pg||
nt|jillan:  scheisse, and he was doing so well|pg||
nt|mikeirl: is tuesday ok for  u|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|ritong: 1NT response had a small chance  2@s has not|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we'll surely see Nickell v O'Rourke in final set of the night -- and if this table one of last to finish this match too|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: moss: "sorry if this is wrong"|pg||
nt|algraves: he was playing east to be 7411 I think|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@c = mild invitation|pg||
nt|dinos1: 6@h needs 3-3, 6N - @c3-3|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ritong: on the other hand, 1NT with four trumps, a singleton and a king would be fancy|pg||
pc|s7|nt|ahollan1: looks like Nickell will end set trailing O'Rourke by 8|pg||
nt|lc: The triumph was for the 3@H bid -- which looks ugly, but forced East into the wrong guess.|pg||
nt|dinos1: specs want pass, but pd hasnt to have @dA|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: this result easy to accept -- when you're +80|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|rhelle: this should be swiftly -1 ...|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|ritong: forgiven|pg||
nt|rhelle: but stranger things have happened|pg||
nt|passell: and a dia finesse|pg||
nt|bobh1: Hi Alex.  Miss you being here.  We're having fun. Hope you and family ae well. |pg||
nt|dburn: for the benefit of any layman who may have wandered in, "zeitnot" means "time trouble"|pg||
nt|dinos1: or fin|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yep -- but i thought impressive to notice the possibility|pg||
nt|ritong: yoou are in zeitnot when alloted time is almost trespassed   chess expression|pg||
nt|ahollan1: vs NT  King lead asks attitude|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: forgotten :)|pg||
nt|passell: 4 spades is the best spot here also|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h3|nt|vugraphzfe: fred calling cards more audibly this hand|pg||
nt|multiphren: it means you do not have to write down your moves anymore zeitnot|pg||
nt|ahollan1: looks like German or Yiddish word|pg||
nt|ahollan1: an interesting option for specs -- try setting BBO so that you only see 1 hand -- you'd be amazed how many bids/plays would be different than when trying to ignore seeing all 4 ...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hands|pg||
nt|dinos1: hardly pd has 4@s4@c - wd X 1@h then|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Bergen would bid 1@S-3@S   that might convince East to Pass|pg||
nt|ahollan1: playing upside down -- @H4 was just too tough to read|pg||
pc|s3|nt|ritong: really?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and probably easier to find 9 tricks in 3@S than in 4@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: which really?   3@S with West   or   Pass from East??|pg||
nt|ritong: i mean 1) would bergen preempt two passed hands and 2) would west give up?|pg||
nt|ritong: esat*|pg||
nt|ritong: east**|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sure 3@S -- descriptive     East Passing -- that's why i said "might"  only 5 trump, 3 quick outside losers [3@S won't have Ace]|pg||
nt|dinos1: german, zeit = time|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|nt|rhelle: and that is 9 tricks|pg||
nt|dburn: it is German - it literally means "time need"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: won't always dbl in hot auction with only 44|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|ritong: hi larry|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s4|pc|h9|nt|vugraphzfe: room is actually clearing out|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|bg: does bergen apply by a passed hand? 3s is just a preempt with good hands use drury|pg||
nt|rhelle: of course playing the @s 10 is his only legitimate chance of making his contract|pg||
mc|9|nt|ahollan1: that will generate some discussion|pg||
pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2SAKT942H75DA42C84,S86HAKDKQ7CAKJT75,SJ5HQT642DT953CQ6,SQ73HJ983DJ86C932|sv|e|nt|gavin:  last board of the set at this table|pg||
nt|ritong: a strong 2NT opening|pg||
nt|gavin:  fleisher after a tough start to the set have been on a 27-2 run|pg||
nt|kit: which would wrongside it potentially|pg||
nt|gavin:  with some good stuff to come|pg||
nt|gavin:  too strong for 2NT|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ritong: now let s see how moss reacts|pg||
nt|dinos1: plus wrong-sided|pg||
mb|3N|nt|kit: Now time for Kamil to be a genius|pg||
nt|gavin:  down for fleisher|pg||
nt|dinos1: X?|pg||
nt|gavin:  double|pg||
nt|gavin:  saying lead your weaker major|pg||
nt|kit: might well double-- best shot at set|pg||
nt|gavin:  thats what most experts play|pg||
nt|gavin:  (weaker, not shorter)|pg||
nt|chorush: think dbl a worthwhile call here|pg||
nt|kit: big swing whether he does or not|pg||
mb|d|nt|chorush: and will Fred sit for it?|pg||
nt|dinos1: 4@c now I guess|pg||
nt|kit: yes!  Probably swings well over 20 IMPs|pg||
nt|mslair: Fred will not sit it out|pg||
nt|chorush: I wouldn't but I have a yellow stripe down my back|pg||
nt|dinos1: Moss has 3- spades so ...|pg||
nt|kit: I wonder what range of 2NT opening is -- seems like Moss had a pass opposite normal range|pg||
nt|mslair: maybe thinking of skipping to 5 @cs|pg||
nt|gavin:  i think fleisher will know what to do with that :) |pg||
nt|kit: I think 4@C is quite sufficient -- if Moss has ace of diamonds and queen of clubs, he will raise|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|nt|chorush: now they will beat 4 clubs. double worked out enormously well|pg||
nt|ritong: down, but much cheaper|pg||
nt|dinos1: now -1 on trump promotion|pg||
nt|kit: of course spade lead defeats 4@C also, but at least it isn't 800|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
nt|kit: 2@S suit pref in case partner has stiff jack|pg||
nt|ritong: @s 2 = " if you are out of @ss i d like a @d"|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c16|st||md|2SAKT942H75DA42C84,S86HAKDKQ7CAKJT75,SJ5HQT642DT953CQ6,SQ73HJ983DJ86C932|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: final board of the 3rd Quarter    anticipate  15 minute break before final set begins|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: last board.  thanks all for watching.  quarterfinals start tomorrow at 1pm EDT|pg||
nt|hedyg: they play variable 14-16 and 15-17|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: Jan must have reconnected|pg||
nt|algraves: they play more like 13 to bad 16|pg||
nt|wstuart: An interesting consideration on these 3NT rebids is what opener's holding in responder's suit is - it's reasonable to define it as with showing 1 or less or 2 or more.|pg||
mb|2C|nt|wstuart: There are many slam hands where that is the crucial and hard to determine peice of information if you don't ahve a specific agreemnt.|pg||
nt|rhelle: very hard to see ... you see, even at this level they slip up in defence|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: but teams can agree to start earlier|pg||
nt|ritong: an other difficult decision|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok we have the scores now, great!|pg||
nt|algraves: versace right on the rule of 2 or 3|pg||
nt|hedyg: last board of this segment|pg||
nt|algraves: 7 tricks, no outside defense, classic|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i was corrected about King lead -- normally that is strongest playing Rusinow vs NT  --  but after unable to overcall 1@D  what hand wants partner to unblock??|pg||
nt|ritong: an exciting board to boot|pg||
mb|2D|nt|ritong: when raised, what to do?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: 1pm EDT = 5pm GMT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@S easy  -- Moss 4@S probably easy too  since @Dxx|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we're actually ahead of other room now!!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: final board of this set    nice job from our operator  John Schwartz|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D= at most 1 king|pg||
nt|dburn: indeed - great decision by Fleisher to double 3NT for a spade lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry  0-1 controls  [A2 K1]|pg||
nt|ritong: other room after 2NT 3NT fleisher found a winning double|pg||
mb|2S|nt|rhelle: 1@d = 11-15, 3+@d, unbalanced|pg||
nt|dinos1: X now|pg||
mb|3C|nt|dburn: this is a real chance for Fleisher|pg||
nt|dburn: five diamonds (even six diamonds) look vastly preferable to 3NT|pg||
nt|wstuart: Prob 2NT showing the str NT?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D tends to deny 4@H/@S  UNLESS strong enough to at least invite over 1N rebid|pg||
nt|dinos1: now right-sided 3N?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: enterprising 2@h|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the Open Room  Greco thought a long time before passing 3@S|pg||
nt|hedyg: short break and then 2nd segment|pg||
nt|dburn: this may not work so well for Greco - he can't beat 3NT from Martel's side|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if 2N=20-21   west seems too good for that bid|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: if in 4@S, i think declarer has a chance|pg||
nt|ahollan1: take the plus|pg||
nt|algraves: and lauria adds his three tricks and there you have it|pg||
nt|mdgraham: wot hapen there?|pg||
nt|wstuart: but Chip will likely just kick it in to 3NT knowing he is facing at least some @H wastage for a slam.|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he could bid 3@h, just to make sure|pg||
nt|wstuart: true, they still have chances here|pg||
nt|dinos1: 2@d now or 1M?|pg||
nt|dinos1: yes, 2@d|pg||
nt|ahollan1: too good to guess the major|pg||
nt|ahollan1: great call David|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzfe: moss: good match, shakes hands with opps.  fred: good play cashing @SA|pg||
mb|p|nt|wstuart: thsi must imply a @D fit.|pg||
nt|ritong: no tilt|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: Stanby probably will bid 3S|pg||
nt|ritong: muller is a great player|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and quick refresh now shows Grue [original 21] beat Cayne [ 4]     Fleisher [7] over Nickell [2]|pg||
nt|mslair: this is a nightmare|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other match is on 14|pg||
pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: i mentioned because South hand opposite a 14-16 NT improved during the auction|pg||
nt|dburn: well done Chip - knew you wouldn't let me down|pg||
nt|wstuart: I assume 3@C after 2NT would not have been forcing.|pg||
nt|chorush: I don't know enuf about their methods|pg||
nt|wstuart: Although, after a 2 level nerg DBL opposite a str NT it seems like it should be.|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@h looks like a make - especially with the @d Ace before the king|pg||
nt|rhelle: a game on pretty minimal values|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS play precision so 3@S weaker than playing 'standard'|pg||
pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: yes -- if EW negotiate @C ruff beat is easy|pg||
nt|rhelle: in the other room North opened 1NT - for reasons he better understand than I|pg||
nt|rhelle: and they made slam tried, all the way to 5@h :)|pg||
nt|rhelle: this was a very exciting set, been a long time since I saw so many swings|pg||
nt|rhelle: at this level, that is - my Monday night game produces them as well :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: note partnership agreement that allows Platnick to PASS the 2@H bid|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|chorush: Katz is going to have a good idea what to lead if it plays here|pg||
nt|wstuart: Chip's sequence expresses doubt about 3NT and Lew's stopper is surely about as weak as they come.|pg||
nt|dburn: indeed - he cant pass, can he?|pg||
nt|lc: I always tell my students : "Don't lay down"  or "underlead" aces.  I hope they don't see this deal. :)|pg||
nt|dinos1: hard for NS - S consider his @dK as losing card, and N consider @dQ as wasting oe)|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|algraves: now diamond and diamond will eventually beat it|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: but in real world ...|pg||
nt|dburn: no, he can't|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the situation is a little different than DBL by 2nd and and cue from advancer|pg||
nt|dinos1: still i wdnt bid 2@d if i were going to pass any response|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but i still would have expected Q forces bid to confirmed fit|pg||
pc|s8|nt|lc: Of course, after @CA, @C, West would have to switch to SPADES -- not DIAMONDS to beat it.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right Sergey  -- but WITH AGREEMENT can certainly see the appeal|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s7|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: my computer is having some problem|pg||
nt|algraves: now Versace will have to guess TX in trumps to make|pg||
nt|hedyg: just a little bit more Liz! |pg||
pc|sT|nt|hedyg: so we will be back about 15 minutes after all finish|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: sorry lag not responding|pg||
nt|algraves: pershaps south did overtake and it was missed by recorder|pg||
nt|hedyg: or he just misguessed|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: I tried to key it|pg||
nt|algraves: thrid diamond, and if neccessary 4th diamond promotes trump ten|pg||
nt|hedyg: np Liz, you didnt a good job! thanks @H|pg||
nt|hedyg: you did a good job* my keyboard too!|pg||
nt|algraves: even if south did not overtake it seems natural for West to misguess the third diamond after south wins trump ace|pg||
nt|sillafu: how can he misguess|pg||
nt|hedyg: Liz it is minus 1 for sure?|pg||
nt|hedyg: the result of -1 confirmed|pg||
nt|wstuart: Now they need to not overstate their values.|pg||
nt|wstuart: VWD for Martel-Stansby!|pg||
nt|wstuart: There is a reason they have won so many championships.|pg||
nt|dburn: so Fleisher will take a lead of 41 into the final quarter - but if the deals are anything like this lot, there will be plenty of chances for Diamond to get those back|pg||
pc|d7|nt|chorush: looks like this one can't be beaten|pg||
nt|wstuart: (VWD = very well done)|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: Diamond also in 4@S on  14   but Stansby never bid with North hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: still not sure they'd get to game|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ritong: wow|pg||
nt|dinos1: yes, as I told - tuff hands for bidding|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: Deutsch [original  16]  dethrones the defenders Monaco   152-91|pg||
nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg||
nt|ritong: see you to morrow|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: ok, we're done, see you tomorrow|pg||
pc|c2|nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg||
nt|ritong: see you all to morrow for further adventures|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
mc|9|nt|rhelle: anyway .. thank you all for watching some exciting and great bridge|pg||
nt|dburn: still, the Fleisher team is playing very well - its captain not least|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not sure how long the break will be -- depends on when other match finishes|pg||
nt|vugraphzfe: closing, back in a few minutes|pg||
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