vg|2009 USBC B Round of 16,Segment 3 of 4,I,31,45,Cohler,63,Fleisher,59|
rs|1NSx-3,1NS-2,3NN=,3NN=,2SW-2,2SW-1,2HS=,3HS-1,2SN=,2SN+1,4HE+1,4HW+1,4HN+1,4HN+1,3NS-3,5CS=,2CS-2,1NS+1,3CW+1,2CW+1,3NN-4,4SS-1,2SE+1,2SE+1,3HN-1,3NE-1,3NE=,3NE=,4SN=,4SN+1|
pn|Mahaffey,Ekeblad,Passell,Weichsel,Fleisher,Cohler,Kamil,Rosenberg|pg||
qx|o31|st||md|1SA84HA87DJ72CA752,SK732HQJ6D3CKQT98,SQJ96HT93DAQ65C63,ST5HK542DKT984CJ4|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: last 16 boards of the match -- kudos to Moss for making a game of it|pg||
nt|mariner1: Hi all, welcome to the USBF Women's Trials 2009 -|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=28&Itemid=225|pg||
nt|mariner1: - Tournament Site|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: hi folks, little time to get set up here, players same|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|mariner1: Our commentators for this session are  Al Hollander (USA), George Holland|pg||
nt|mariner1: (Canada), and Roland Wald (Denmark) ........... I am Rob Brown (USA)|pg||
nt|daman: Hi Everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: Chuck Wong is our super operator, hi Chuck!|pg||
nt|mariner1: hi George and Al|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: hello all, |pg||
nt|daman: Moss needs to average 3 IMPs per board|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: writing back and forth |pg||
mb|p|pc|cK|nt|daman: Who is who in this room?|pg||
pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: you may want to keep an eye on the other match where winner becomes USA1  - tons of leader changes|pg||
nt|mariner1: could make 6 here|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  -- open one window per table|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch many vugraph rooms at the|pg||
nt|mariner1: same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need|pg||
nt|mariner1: Flash Player 9, some don't, Open one browser window per table|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h3|pc|d4|pc|cA|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s7|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: even playing Good/Bad convention -- hard for North to making any move toward slam|pg||
nt|daman: If NS is Glasson then Moss will have a chance for a double digit pickup on this one|pg||
pc|s2|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hJ|mc|4|pg||
qx|c31|st||md|1SA84HA87DJ72CA752,SK732HQJ6D3CKQT98,SQJ96HT93DAQ65C63,ST5HK542DKT984CJ4|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|caitlin: welcome back|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: hi Caitlin|pg||
mb|1N|nt|caitlin: hey Bill|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: 4@C now perhaps|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: but West won't be interested :)|pg||
nt|yo_yo: good afternoon Andy and everyone  - from Manchester|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Wilie here!|pg||
nt|andyv:  Hi Willie:)|pg||
nt|yo_yo: hi there Willie|pg||
pc|cK|nt|yo_yo: nice to be able to watch Michael Rosenberg, he hails from these shores|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
nt|athene: spades are the normal suit to attack here|pg||
pc|cT|nt|athene: the @D7 grows up quite fast|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg||
nt|athene: but declarer can come to 11 tricks thanks to the nice trump position|pg||
nt|andyv:  6 tricks easy but the 7th might be tough|pg||
nt|yo_yo: the rest I dont know  so Andy will have to fill us in|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|yo_yo: if you like to picture the players  here are some photos: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=545&Itemid=224|pg||
nt|andyv:  Michael Kamil and Martin Fleisher are a well established partnership|pg||
nt|yo_yo: and some more: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=550&Itemid=224|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|nt|yo_yo: well Rosenberg is a superstar |pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg||
nt|athene: declarer can play @CA, trump finesse, then draw trumps and ruff the diamonds good|pg||
nt|athene: but he might not want to do that|pg||
nt|athene: using up the @CA means if the trump finesse loses, he might be in a bit of trouble on a club return, forcing dummy|pg||
nt|athene: and end up unable to bring in the diamonds|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: that's playing wide open|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h9|pc|s5|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c9|pc|hT|pc|d4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c8|nt|athene: he's just going for a crossruff i guess|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s9|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s2|pc|d5|nt|Walddk6: Welcome to Joe Shair|pg||
nt|santyclz: Hi folks.|pg||
nt|athene: set up dummy - you don't mind so much if this gets overruffed, as it's getting rid of the @HQ|pg||
nt|athene: hi good evening|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|santyclz: Hi Bill.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: claimed on crossruff|pg||
pc|d7|pc|s3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|h5|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
mc|5|pg||
qx|o32|st||md|2S8652HA82DAJ74C82,SQ73HJ97543D2C976,SA94HK6DK965CAQ54,SKJTHQTDQT83CKJT3|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: and it isn't a good one anyway|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Chuck will get player names up as soon as he gets a minute|pg||
nt|daman: I don't think the Moss squad will be sitting on their hands waiting for breaks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Chuck will enter names when he gets a chance|pg||
nt|ahollan1: west is Sylvie Moss, North Sasha Cohen, East Migry Campanile, South Rozanne Pollack|pg||
nt|mariner1: slam chance here NS|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|mariner1: can make 7 finding Q@D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: splinter to 4@C?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: jump shift to 3@D??|pg||
mb|2D|nt|mariner1: 7@H 7@S or 7@D all can make (all on Q@D hunt)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: real key from Sasha's point of view is the @D suit|pg||
nt|mariner1: Key Card now|pg||
nt|daman: Moss team in 6@S on Board 81 in CR|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 5@C from Pollack as Exclusion would be great treatment|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Sasha can't ask -- needs to know way too much that KC won't tell her|pg||
mb|3N|nt|mariner1: we have Closed Room up now|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: redouble or 5@D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: superfluous dbl -- gives NS more room to sort things out|pg||
nt|mariner1: Moss in Closed Room bid the 6@S on board 81|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c7|nt|ahollan1: 5@C already said -- no @C loser -- Pollack worried about a) trump  b) missing grand|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|daman: I would have bid 5@D    S must have first round @C control|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
nt|mariner1: now S has to sort of guess about N's @S quality|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i like 5@D too george -- but more because Pollack KNOWS Cohen can't cue in red suit|pg||
nt|daman: missed a big chance to put the opps away|pg||
nt|daman: if they bid the grand in the CR     watch out|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: 13 tricks not certain -- need good things to happen in a red suit|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and decent trump split|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and guess which good thing happened :)|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|h7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so for the puritans, just a question of whether 6@S arrived at convincingly or not -- which gets an extra 5 points :)|pg||
nt|mariner1: Al no style points?|pg||
nt|daman: my guess is if you were in 7 and had to play it wide open?  you would end up making on a high crossruff after pitching @Ds on the @Hs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: is there a sure line for 12 tricks?|pg||
nt|mariner1: well most lines work|pg||
nt|daman: and ruffing @Cs along the way    East cannot get out of her own way on the play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm not sure george -- that seems to rely upon @H 33  surely better to try @D first|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg||
nt|daman: they are in 7 in the other room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and maybe right to play 2nd @D here|pg||
nt|daman: get your popcorn out|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: quick gear shift|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|h3|pc|d5|pg||
nt|daman: 7 will make on a dummy reversal with 2 @C ruffs I believe|pg||
nt|ahollan1: send out a call for Michael Rosenberg and Bart Bramley -- what is BEST line for 12???|pg||
nt|ahollan1: note: they analyze without peeking at the opponent's hands|pg||
pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg||
nt|daman: hrrrrmm|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c32|st||md|2S8652HA82DAJ74C82,SQ73HJ97543D2C976,SA94HK6DK965CAQ54,SKJTHQTDQT83CKJT3|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|andyv:  S could have gone after @s for down one (not taking the @d finesse)|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphu6: Cohler drew first blood.|pg||
mb|2C|an|alerted|nt|santyclz: 1m 1s 1nt?|pg||
nt|athene: Martel-Stansby usually play weak NT don't they?|pg||
nt|athene: i don't have an up-to-the-minute card for them|pg||
nt|athene: must hunt one out|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: y|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  in a tight match as this one is, every imp carries extra weight.|pg||
mb|2D|an|alerted|nt|yo_yo: not nice to lose 200 on the first board|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|an|alerted|mb|p|nt|andyv:  puppet?|pg||
mb|3C|an|alerted|nt|santyclz: Interesting (as far as 1nt undbl'd can be interesting).  |pg||
nt|athene: some might open that south hand a 12-14 NT in first seat, but in third, there's a lot more reason to open your best suit, for lead-directing purposes|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: looks like puppet yes|pg||
pc|d3|nt|andyv:  lead helps a lot|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Puppet from discussion.|pg||
nt|andyv:  but E has nothing attractive to lead from|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|nt|yo_yo: well 1NT doubled in the other room  B31|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|andyv:  might be a push... depends if declarer tries to make or not.|pg||
pc|dK|nt|santyclz: This was exactly what I had in mind by "interesting", but am surprised to see it single dmy.|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d7|nt|Walddk5: Welcome to Ed Shapiro|pg||
nt|othered1: Hi, everyone!|pg||
nt|andyv:  8 tricks easy here... probably have to work on spade suit for the 9th although @C finesse is a last resort|pg||
nt|yo_yo: hello ED|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dJ|nt|andyv:  Hi Ed... welcome|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|yo_yo: yes try set up 4th @S|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg||
nt|yo_yo: there was a small peter in @H|pg||
nt|yo_yo: not sure what that means|pg||
nt|yo_yo: i like my signals to be strong|pg||
nt|andyv:  CR, S went down 3 dbld in 1N...12 imps for Fleisher|pg||
nt|yo_yo: goodness |pg||
nt|andyv:  S tried both the @D finesse and the @S finesse without too much success|pg||
nt|andyv:  Michael can already see the writing on the wall|pg||
nt|othered1: The double on east's hand wouldn't have occurred to me, but sure hit paydirt.|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|nt|yo_yo: i dont know that expression but think I know what you mean Ed :)|pg||
pc|c6|pc|d6|pg||
nt|othered1: I wonder if north should have extracted the last @D before the @S play?|pg||
nt|andyv:  dbl was probably take out of spades which got converted (in CR)|pg||
nt|andyv:  now Ace of spades and spade|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|andyv:  this will suffice too and protects against a 5-1 break in spades|pg||
nt|yo_yo: is this a regular partnership  Rosenberg and Cohler?|pg||
nt|andyv:  yes... restarted after Zia and Michael parted ways|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h7|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg||
nt|andyv:  good result...Michael need to not be on lead the whole time|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o33|st||md|3S763HAQ32DT864CK9,SKT985H4DK952CJ53,SAQ4HT987DQ3CA642,SJ2HKJ65DAJ7CQT87|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: normal @HJ lead will lose the setting @C ruff|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|nt|mariner1: @c out needed|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cA|nt|mariner1: no way for S to know that|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|s7|pc|c3|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|h2|pg||
pc|dQ|mc|6|pg||
qx|c33|st||md|3S763HAQ32DT864CK9,SKT985H4DK952CJ53,SAQ4HT987DQ3CA642,SJ2HKJ65DAJ7CQT87|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|santyclz: W thinks it's xmas.|pg||
nt|athene: well he doesn't expect to defence 1nt and kill it|pg||
nt|athene: he expects opps to run to spades|pg||
nt|athene: *to defend 1nt|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|athene: i think the problem with using double as two-way (4major 5minor OR any big hand)|pg||
nt|athene: is that on this auction |pg||
nt|athene: if you bid 3@D now over 2@D, does that show the strong hand|pg||
nt|athene: or might you just have, for example, extra shape (4@H 6@D)?|pg||
mb|1N|nt|athene: sorry if you bid 3@D over 2@S i mean :)|pg||
nt|santyclz: 3@d would be indeterminate so w may bid 3@s.|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphu6: 2@s shows some values I believe|pg||
nt|santyclz: The 2nt clarified it for them if there were a problem.|pg||
nt|othered1: brb|pg||
nt|andyv:  as one kibitzer pointed out, Rosenberg made a good unblock of 10@c on last hand to prevent being end played |pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|santyclz: Probably worth a x, but e shouldn't sit.|pg||
mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|dA|nt|yo_yo: 2@S would promise a 6 card suit with me|pg||
nt|andyv:  need club shift from N to set this|pg||
pc|d8|nt|andyv:  or @D continuation and club shift to set it 2|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|santyclz: Lol.|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|athene: each side has singleton trump queen in opps' fit|pg||
nt|athene: Culbertson would be nodding wisely|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Director call by Lew|pg||
nt|athene: not realising that his Theory Of Symmetry is complete candyfloss|pg||
nt|santyclz: It may have had some validity when decks were hand shuffled, but computer dealing has ended that chance.|pg||
nt|athene: director call interesting - hard to see where there could be any break in tempo and UI here?|pg||
nt|athene: the normal meaning would be that east paused over 3@S and influenced his partner to double|pg||
nt|athene: but east hasn't got anything :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: dbl of 1n misexplaines, was simply penalty|pg||
nt|athene: ah right|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|nt|athene: can you make this by setting up the @C8 for a heart pitch?|pg||
nt|athene: @DA, cross to @DJ, lead @CJ|pg||
nt|santyclz: Beware of Stansby's bearing gifts.|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
pc|sT|nt|athene: eventually pitch @H on the @C8 and then lead a heart to the @HK|pg||
nt|athene: might be findable, after the revealing auction|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|hT|nt|andyv:  now question of -1 or -2|pg||
nt|yo_yo: not everyone seems to like my view there  but what's wrong with passing 1NT?|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d4|nt|andyv:  3N also made in CR on board 2|pg||
pc|d2|nt|santyclz: Short an entry isn't it?  2 to take finesses (in @ds) but none to return to the 8.|pg||
nt|athene: he just plays for clubs 3-3 or @CQx|pg||
nt|athene: you only need to lead clubs once from dummy|pg||
pc|s4|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|nt|athene: diamond to dummy, lead @CJ, covered|pg||
nt|athene: then just bash out clubs|pg||
pc|c9|nt|andyv:  4@d should ask for @C back|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cK|nt|santyclz: Ah, yes.|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|andyv:  but he needed LOW club back|pg||
nt|yo_yo: yes but which one|pg||
pc|hA|pc|s8|mc|7|nt|andyv:  with Axx, and pd requesting a @C, i think low club is right|pg||
pg||
qx|o34|st||md|4SKJTHK743D532CJ64,S9652HJ85DAKJ9C92,SQ3HAQT9DT64CAQ83,SA874H62DQ87CKT75|sv|n|nt|mariner1: passout possible (I said it again :) )|pg||
nt|daman: down in 7@S in the CR    fell back on the @D finesse|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: that doesn't seem like best combination of chances    for 13 tricks|pg||
nt|daman: never even tried the @Hs|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: top @D try for Q doubleton or @H 33 must be better than 50%|pg||
nt|daman: she even ruffed 2 @Cs to set it up for a dummy reversal|pg||
nt|mariner1: no way I open S here|pg||
mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: Pearson Points really meant for matchpoints [ouch it hurts just to type that word] say with close opener in 4th seat  add HCP + length in @S|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|s7|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|mc|8|pg||
qx|c34|st||md|4SKJTHK743D532CJ64,S9652HJ85DAKJ9C92,SQ3HAQT9DT64CAQ83,SA874H62DQ87CKT75|sv|n|nt|andyv:  but, A guarantees setting contract|pg||
nt|yo_yo: i wonder why Kamil passed on the last hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: East will bid 3@H if he has to, otherwise 2@S, i guess|pg||
nt|athene: 3@S sorry|pg||
nt|santyclz: 2nt by w over 2 or 4 over 3?|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|athene: wow|pg||
nt|athene: really four?|pg||
nt|andyv:  as one spec points out, K@C before the @D ruff would have made it easier.  Question is whether W can possibly have the A@C (and not the J@C)|pg||
mb|1S|nt|santyclz: Expert game try...|pg||
nt|athene: now west might take him seriously|pg||
nt|athene: except he knows @HKJx isn't so nice facing a singleton or void|pg||
nt|athene: but i would expect more than that for 4@S|pg||
nt|santyclz: But still, he has controls in both side suits.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|d|nt|santyclz: I guess he knows his partner.|pg||
mb|p|nt|yo_yo: crikey  i would pass 1@S like a shot|pg||
mb|2N|an|alerted|mb|p|nt|athene: well even this is too high|pg||
nt|santyclz: The specs came down heavily for (at least) 6.|pg||
nt|athene: 3nt was the spot|pg||
mb|3C|mb|d|mb|3H|an|alerted|mb|p|nt|andyv:  this auction seems to have a mind of it's own|pg||
mb|p|nt|yo_yo: that's the trouble with bidding 2@S, Michael isnt in on the joke|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  how many would have raised to 2@S after opening the W hand?|pg||
pc|dA|nt|yo_yo: it's a bit hard to count the hands up Andy :)|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg||
nt|athene: west will not be happy when he takes a very cautious view and still goes negative|pg||
pc|c9|nt|andyv:  nice pass by Rosenberg... so W got his wish as 3@h should be down 1|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|athene: surprising pitch there from east - surely you ruff with the @SJ and just hope?|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|yo_yo: Fleisher let them off the hook|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sJ|nt|Walddk5: Welcome to Hedy Grey|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|hedyg: good afternoon :)|pg||
nt|yo_yo: hello Hedy|pg||
nt|andyv:  Good afternoon Hedy:)|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|8|nt|hedyg: hello to Willie:)|pg||
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qx|o35|st||md|1S5HKT7DK765CAKQJ9,SQ42HQ6DJT98C8632,SJT9873HA954DQC74,SAK6HJ832DA432CT5|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: if 15+ then open  [some say 14+]|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: in encyclopedia this is also called Rule of 15  [which has 2nd definition that covers a lead convention]|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Rob -- we've found an 11 that I would NOT open :)|pg||
nt|mariner1: try Cansino Count Al,,,,,, easier to say :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but i mean East -- not North|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: I knew Cansino as convention over opp 1N -- didn't know there was another meaning|pg||
nt|ahollan1: RDBL = 3@H [support DBL]|pg||
nt|mariner1: same, add points and spades to get to 15 to open|pg||
nt|mariner1: so  a support REDBL|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry Rob phrase better -- note to make, since Support DBL/RDBL originally invented for use in context of Strong Club system - some 2/1 players play support DBL but NOT support ...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: RDBL|pg||
nt|mariner1: on 83 Moss gained 10 back as the @S game was not found|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: I was thinking they might find the A@C lead to beat 4....... no chance though on 83|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: the idea is that in context of big club - opener never holds strong hand, but in 2/1 maybe big hand|pg||
nt|mariner1: S in a fix here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Cohen not opening has really made things difficult for Pollack|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: players closing eyes resting, while she thinks|pg||
pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: is DBL takeout??|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: is 2N nat or scramble?|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: what is 2@H??  |pg||
nt|ahollan1: oy - who knows      open 1@D with north and none of these problems arise|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Stasha's eyes opened wide with the 4 spades call|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that said -- Sasha has been very consistent in NOT opening 11 count hands|pg||
pc|s7|nt|daman: when you're hot....|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this does have play |pg||
nt|daman: a lot of play|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and @C spots figure to be key component|pg||
nt|daman: @H Queen in the slot...|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: nice shift|pg||
nt|mariner1: a trump out might have been better|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg||
nt|mariner1: Migry putting her to test early|pg||
nt|daman: NS in the CR did will to gather +660|pg||
nt|daman: well*|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with good guesses can actually make 11 now -- but she'll look for best line to GUARANTEE 10 tricks|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: gee easy auction when N opened 1@D|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|h4|pc|sK|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|s4|pc|h9|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|mariner1: well done|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c35|st||md|1S5HKT7DK765CAKQJ9,SQ42HQ6DJT98C8632,SJT9873HA954DQC74,SAK6HJ832DA432CT5|sv|e|nt|andyv:  i'm positive Rosenberg didn't return the !4s|pg||
nt|hedyg: (our operator)|pg||
nt|andyv:  4@s|pg||
nt|andyv:  Cohler got a couple of imps back on board 33 as 2@S went down 2 in CR|pg||
nt|hedyg: this might end in 3NT NS|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|hedyg: might be difficult to stop|pg||
nt|hedyg: oh they got some help|pg||
mb|r|nt|athene: do you rebid 1@S or 2@H with north?|pg||
nt|hedyg: iffy vulnerable double X with all his values in @s|pg||
nt|andyv:  8 tricks easy... where does the 9th come from?|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: XX should show EITHER 3 card support in @s OR a strong hand|pg||
nt|yo_yo: NS obviously dont play support doubles|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Good morning to Debbie Rosenberg|pg||
nt|debrose: Good morning all|pg||
nt|hedyg: welcome Debbie :)|pg||
nt|andyv:  i don't think it shows 3 card support:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: many play it as either or|pg||
nt|yo_yo: hi Debbie, come to watch your man |pg||
nt|hedyg: here it is or :)|pg||
nt|debrose: N-S do play support doubles, but not support redoubles.  Though most who play one play both, it is not necessary to do so|pg||
mb|2S|nt|santyclz: Depends on who my partner is.  I prefer 2@h, but some people don't take 3-card raises into their thinking.|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: well, i am sure all roads lead to 4@H on these hands|pg||
nt|andyv:  the lack of a fit might keep N/S low|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|debrose: Rosenberg also prefers support doubles, but not support redoubles |pg||
pc|cT|nt|hedyg: nice restraint by Fleisher|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|yo_yo: that's a new one on me, I thought they went together|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|athene: 4@C is quite aggressive with bad trumps and @CKQx facing a singleton|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|nt|athene: he likes his diamond fit, but that heart suit isn't what you want to play a 5-3 fit slam|pg||
nt|santyclz: A nice polite word for it.|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|nt|santyclz: I would have gone for "strange".|pg||
nt|athene: plus on this bidding you are very likely to get a spade lead |pg||
nt|athene: so you aren't throwing a spade loser on diamonds or anything like that|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|dQ|nt|debrose: Fleisher had already shown at least this strong a hand  - I'd say balanced 18-19 would be most typical for redouble - so was probably not tempted to bid over 2@S|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|andyv:  can't get W in for Michael to Ruff with small trump|pg||
nt|andyv:  but N did that for him... exchange of tricks|pg||
nt|debrose: I was asked about Rosenberg's double - a bit agressive, but with 4-4 in the other two suits okay.  After the opps have bid two suits, double should guarantee at least 4-4 or a very ...|pg||
nt|debrose: strong (16+) hand|pg||
pc|h8|nt|athene: no reason to get trumps right|pg||
nt|athene: especially since leading small from dummy then ducking means you can't ruff a club|pg||
nt|santyclz: With the same shape a points I'd bid it, with something like kx kqxxx q10x axx.|pg||
nt|athene: 11 tricks in 4@H in the closed room|pg||
nt|athene: that's a whole lot of tricks|pg||
nt|athene: i wonder if it was a trump lead|pg||
nt|athene: yeah|pg||
nt|athene: @HJ ends the defensive prospects right there|pg||
nt|santyclz: Must have been.|pg||
pc|h7|nt|athene: people might lead small from @HAxx but not from @HAJx|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|athene: so that just tells declarer everything|pg||
nt|athene: i think a club back put declarer under more pressure, didn't it?|pg||
nt|athene: he would have to take @C pitch on @S right away|pg||
pc|sA|nt|athene: this way he has slightly more freedom in trumps|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s2|pg||
nt|athene: and indeed gets it right|pg||
nt|andyv:  getting easier and easier now|pg||
nt|hedyg: can make 9 tricks now|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o36|st||md|2SQT732H9DT973C762,SAJ94HAJ753DK2CT9,S865HQT8DQJCAQJ43,SKHK642DA8654CK85|sv|b|nt|mariner1: slam NS here|pg||
nt|mariner1: 7 makes on Q@D find|pg||
nt|mariner1: my guess in 6N|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the opening 1@C bid and lead of lowest outstanding @C made the distribution a sure thing|pg||
mb|1S|an|may have any longer side suit|mb|p|mb|2C|an|art gf|nt|mariner1: and 6N it was in Closed Room|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|an|5+ hearts|nt|ahollan1: i've seen a number of pairs now play  1N-4@S as slam try with 4@C & 4@D -- but usually strength is Quantitative rather than slam force|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: 2@S is forcing or a weak minor|pg||
nt|mariner1: her next call describes which|pg||
mb|2N|an|relay|mb|p|nt|onebid: I'd try 5NT - forcing to 6 inv to 7, with opener accepting by bidding suits up the line|pg||
mb|3N|an|4-5-2-2|nt|mariner1: is 4@D here treated as key card?|pg||
nt|mariner1: no alert so maybe not|pg||
nt|daman: it should be|pg||
nt|mariner1: Hi Judy|pg||
nt|daman: Hi Judy|pg||
nt|onebid: Hi guys - back again:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: decent treatment after MSS|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: writing on Cohen's side, not alerted by Pollack|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|an|sets !H trump|mb|p|mb|4D|an|likes his hand|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|onebid: so, no swing|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Cohen, says 4d, rkc, response was 2 w/o Q|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4N does fit in with 4@D as KC|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ahh thanks Chuck|pg||
nt|onebid: Rosie forgot to alert I guess|pg||
nt|ahollan1: knowing @DQ missing, Cohen settles for 6N|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: wow -- in other match Levitina-Sanborn bid AND MADE 7@S -- Dinkin now leads 144-130|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h4|nt|mariner1: so will lose an imp|pg||
pc|s3|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|h7|pc|c4|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|c5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|h2|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|mc|11|pg||
qx|c36|st||md|2SQT732H9DT973C762,SAJ94HAJ753DK2CT9,S865HQT8DQJCAQJ43,SKHK642DA8654CK85|sv|b|nt|athene: he'll be disappointed to lose an imp for that one :)|pg||
nt|santyclz: First imp for the leaders this session.|pg||
nt|andyv:  good score on a dangerous hand|pg||
nt|debrose: Kamil tends to be a sound bidder, so probably won't overcall with the North hand|pg||
nt|andyv:  on board 34, N/S stayed one level lower in 2@h and picked up another 5 imps|pg||
mb|1H|nt|debrose: Rosenberg has interesting choices in responding here - splinter, forcing raise, or 2@D?|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  price isn't right for OC|pg||
nt|debrose: With that quality diamond suit, I would rule out 2@D|pg||
nt|hedyg: a bit strong for splinter?|pg||
nt|debrose: a bit wrong is more like it|pg||
nt|hedyg: how strong do they play splinters?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: a splinter looks ideal to me|pg||
nt|debrose: not to strong, but singleton king is not ideal|pg||
nt|andyv:  as with stiff Aces, I don't like splintering with stiff Kings|pg||
nt|hedyg: agree|pg||
nt|hedyg: do they play jacoby raises?|pg||
nt|debrose: I believe they can show different ranges of splinters, so that is not the issue.  |pg||
nt|othered1: you mean with @Sx you'd splinter, but this is too strong?  I don't see it.|pg||
mb|3N|an|alerted|mb|p|nt|debrose: He is choosing to show a "stronger" spade splinter|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|nt|athene: North is likely to open a strong NT in the other room and east will keep quiet|pg||
nt|debrose: 3@S would have shown an unspecified "mini-splinter" - about 10-12 support points|pg||
nt|hedyg: this shows precisely @s splinter? or any?|pg||
mb|4H|nt|hedyg: ty|pg||
nt|andyv:  should end auction|pg||
nt|debrose: This shows precisely a spade splinter with about 13-15 support points|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: so this might help Martel in the play|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: nice to be able to show either|pg||
nt|andyv:  cue bid of 4@d invites a 5@c cue bid?|pg||
nt|hedyg: they will be happy @hs dont split|pg||
nt|debrose: This is not ideal with a stiff King as we said.   Even if you are bidding the same way you would with a small singelton, partner may misevaluate|pg||
nt|othered1: good, normal stop.  On a very bad day even 4 is in danger|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|santyclz: And the bidding for that matter, without interference, s might just invite after finding no @h fit.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
nt|athene: very nice diamond layout for declarer but he won't want to rely on that|pg||
nt|othered1: good @C pips will prevent north from stealing here|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg||
nt|santyclz: @h finnesse at trick 2 for safety reasons?|pg||
nt|athene: hope for stiff @C honour with east perhaps|pg||
pc|h2|pc|s7|nt|andyv:  quick claim|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hT|pg||
nt|athene: i guess declarer will end up just playing a diamond to the @DK and another diamond to the @D10|pg||
nt|Walddk6: Welcome to Ira Chorush|pg||
nt|debrose: For example, Qxx of spades might allow a useful club pitch, but partner would not give the Spade Q and value.|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|nt|chorush: hi everyone|pg||
pc|d4|nt|athene: hi|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|santyclz: Hi Ira.|pg||
pc|d2|nt|athene: east will get the spades going but just make two spades, @CJ, @DA|pg||
nt|athene: if east exited a diamond then he doesn't give declarer his @SK but declarer can just set up a heart instead|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|h5|nt|hedyg: tried for 3-3 @ds and a @c discard|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o37|st||md|3SJ853HAQ62D85CAQ5,SKQ7H97DAT96C7642,S94HK8543DKQ73CKT,SAT62HJTDJ42CJ983|sv|n|nt|onebid: and Irina played it wide open|pg||
nt|mariner1: nice quiet 2@H here it seems|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ok Rob -- here's another 11 that i might not open|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3C|an|gf raise|nt|mariner1: 44 imps is a lot,,,,, Moss needs swing opportunities|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: that 7@S was board 82 -- sorry about confusion|pg||
nt|onebid: 11 seems to be the standard now. Used to be only when playing strong club|pg||
nt|onebid: yes, that's a lot of imps|pg||
nt|mariner1: well this one does have good @S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think checkback mechanisms have helped reduce the minimum|pg||
mb|3D!|an|minimum|nt|onebid: I agree with that. I check spades first befor deciding|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: true Al, if you open light your system needs to have good controls|pg||
nt|ahollan1: :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: lil break before dummy laid down|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hey -- when did Judy sneak in??|pg||
nt|mariner1: back when we all said Hi Judy :)|pg||
nt|mariner1: we all being George and I :)|pg||
nt|daman: :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry -- i got dain bramage       i have other excuses if that doesn't work|pg||
mb|3H!|an|asking|nt|onebid: drain bumpage?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S!|an|no shortness|mb|p|nt|onebid: Rob graciously opened the door:)|pg||
nt|mariner1: key play here|pg||
mb|4H|nt|onebid: Q seems right, but...|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c8|nt|ahollan1: while we ponder this hand .....  winners of this match play 32 more boards tonight  vs  loser of the other match|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h3|nt|onebid: and more tomorrow?|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|nt|mariner1: yes 6 sessions in all|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
mc|11|nt|mariner1: 2 tonight and 4 tomorrow|pg||
nt|daman: Dinkin up by 16 in the final|pg||
pg||
qx|c37|st||md|3SJ853HAQ62D85CAQ5,SKQ7H97DAT96C7642,S94HK8543DKQ73CKT,SAT62HJTDJ42CJ983|sv|n|nt|athene: ah sorry - the squeeze can't work because west is known to have the @DJ :)|pg||
nt|chorush: nice hand for Martel|pg||
nt|andyv:  N made an overtrick on board 35 so lead down to 2|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: looks like 4@H but they will do well to reach it now|pg||
nt|andyv:  or up to 2 depending on who you are rooting for:)|pg||
mb|1C|an|alerted|nt|athene: yes, that's two thin games carefully steered home by NS on the last two boards|pg||
nt|chorush: looks like all roads will lead to 3NT here|pg||
nt|debrose: Some players would open this hand - for me it would be borderline non-vul, but definitely not an opener vul|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|debrose: With 11 HCP and 5-4 I tend to open if all the high cards are in the two suits|pg||
mb|2H|nt|hedyg: doubtless would open with 5@ss instead of 5@hs|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz: Would you risk a x of a stayman bid by s to avoid a @h lead?|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|nt|athene: yes i wld double clubs for sure with west|pg||
nt|chorush: no, I want the opponents to know as little as possible about partner's hand here|pg||
nt|debrose: Fleisher and Kamil open 1@C rather than 1@D on all balanced minimums, so the 1@C can be a doubleton|pg||
nt|hedyg: there goes a @s loser|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg||
nt|hedyg: practically impossible to lead @s|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
nt|debrose: I'm sure Kamil would not have opened with five spades instead of five hearts, but perhaps that would matter to some|pg||
pc|h2|nt|athene: Martel just wants east on lead|pg||
nt|athene: because whatever he does will be helpful|pg||
nt|chorush: There has been no comparison for the board that Wildavsky and Doub went set in 4s. I wonder why not. 3NT can be beaten on that hand but takes very good defense|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: also would make extra trick if j10@D onside|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|athene: you can't beat 3nt can you?|pg||
pc|cT|nt|athene: i mean not if declarer drops the spade|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|athene: you might beat it in practice though since he's unlikely to|pg||
pc|cA|nt|chorush: Berkowitz almost a guarantee to make 3NT if he is in it|pg||
pc|c2|pc|s4|pc|c8|pg||
mc|11|nt|santyclz: Unless, of course, the commentator at that table claims he is.|pg||
pg||
qx|o38|st||md|4S4HADKJT2CAK97542,SKQ5HKT932DA973CT,SAJT762HJ64D86CJ8,S983HQ875DQ54CQ63|sv|e|nt|mariner1: 3N reasonable aggressive spot here NS|pg||
nt|onebid: odd, but 4@S looks best|pg||
nt|mariner1: @H lead does 4@S in I think|pg||
nt|onebid: not an easy hand, but a better chance I think - minus that lead|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: they started playing board 89, so will skip to that board|pg||
nt|mariner1: can NS actually endup in 4@S though?|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|mariner1: back to the 3N or 4@S problem|pg||
mb|1H|nt|mariner1: that large lady is in the park, and is thinking about warming up|pg||
nt|onebid: Will she be on American Idol?|pg||
nt|mariner1: maybe we need a large man for a ladies game?|pg||
nt|onebid: Big Train?|pg||
nt|mariner1: Pavoratti|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hehe  walter is doing commentary in the other match|pg||
nt|onebid: And we like to say Women's game please|pg||
nt|mariner1: can Wojo sing?|pg||
nt|onebid: Walter a great analyst|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: mee mee mee mee|pg||
nt|daman: tough call for @S|pg||
nt|mariner1: NS might not be in 3N now?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: asks 3d?|pg||
nt|onebid: Chuck can sing@H|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|3C|mb|3H|nt|mariner1: well might end up in 3N after all|pg||
nt|onebid: unless they go off the tracks|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: but I am not fat, large maybe|pg||
nt|mariner1: Migry made a good 3@D jump|pg||
nt|onebid: the Jxx @D ought to persuade her to bid 3NT|pg||
mb|3S|nt|onebid: after all, pard heard the opener|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Pollack's DBL was NEG  [takeout]|pg||
nt|mariner1: btw I do not love 1N with only Kx in @D,,,,,,,, admittedly many bid it|pg||
nt|onebid: looks suit oriented|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe the slow auction showed some help in @D rather than immediate 3@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: or just made 3@S invitational|pg||
pc|h9|nt|onebid: don't understand why she didn't start with 3@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Judy overcalls 1H?      I know Marshall Miles would|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cA|nt|onebid: noooo|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|d3|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: 2@C then -- please don't say DBL|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d2|nt|onebid: 2@C it is|pg||
nt|ahollan1: phew|pg||
nt|mariner1: I would bid 1@H too  or 2@C.....|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
nt|mariner1: and I much prefer 1@H to the 2@C|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h8|pc|c4|pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: hehe  i never guess the best suit to bid -- so 1N for me|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|h2|nt|mariner1: when I bid 1N overcall I want to have what looks like 2 stops|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|dT|pg||
nt|mariner1: its a good part of my hand|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but opening bids in minors get no respect|pg||
nt|onebid: can't hurt to bid your longest suit - rarely ends the bidding|pg||
pc|d6|nt|mariner1: again, most do not think that way|pg||
nt|onebid: still, I don't hate 1NT|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|c7|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|c38|st||md|4S4HADKJT2CAK97542,SKQ5HKT932DA973CT,SAJT762HJ64D86CJ8,S983HQ875DQ54CQ63|sv|e|nt|Vugraphu6: claimed on a squeeze|pg||
nt|hedyg: Debbie what is your attitude when you know opps at the other table open all 11+ hands? would you then open the N hand?|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: Flannery :)|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|santyclz: Yellow card to Bill...|pg||
nt|athene: someone find Roland and bring him in here and tie him down for the whole of this auction|pg||
nt|athene: he will wriggle, but we must be firm|pg||
mb|1S|nt|chorush: probably same auction on heart opening|pg||
nt|debrose: That might matter on a close call, in a match I thought I was a clear favorite in, since I wouldn't want to generate a random swing|pg||
nt|andyv:  5@c|pg||
nt|othered1: How far do you go beyond what  you think is best in order to cater to opponents' styles?  My own thoughts are not very far against natural systems.|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok ty|pg||
mb|2H|nt|athene: 2nt scramble now|pg||
nt|debrose: But if the hand is clearly not an opening bid in my style, I can't just change it because of the other table, since my partners expectations won't change|pg||
nt|hedyg: right|pg||
nt|andyv:  unless you and your pd play 2 different cards depending on how match is going:)|pg||
mb|3D|nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: S hand looks like 1 suiter to me|pg||
nt|andyv:  fortunate hand for S as either minor suit finesse works and W can't lead clubs more than once|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|athene: also known as "partner, i haven't any suit i can bid, YOU play the silly 3-level contract!"|pg||
nt|chorush: I really have trouble imagining doubling here without 4 cards in each minor|pg||
nt|debrose: Fleisher has a nice hand facing a fit, but not so great otherwise.  Tough call now|pg||
nt|andyv:  with that luck, they should bid 6:)|pg||
mb|5C|nt|chorush: I can see 3 diamonds in these modernisitic times, since you could have a game|pg||
nt|athene: actually there is a subtle difference between the two auctions|pg||
nt|athene: after 1@H - 2@H, NS showed slightly more values|pg||
nt|athene: so you might claim you don't need lebensohl|pg||
nt|athene: hence 2NT scramble in the other room|pg||
nt|athene: but here|pg||
nt|athene: 2@H might be zero|pg||
nt|athene: so perhaps you DO need Lebensohl|pg||
nt|athene: and hence you can't find the right fit|pg||
nt|chorush: that's true, so Roland will be doubly agitated if Flannery gets a good result|pg||
nt|athene: indeed he will :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: maybe you need a natural 2N?|pg||
nt|athene: yuck|pg||
nt|athene: 2NT shld never be natural :)|pg||
nt|athene: it's either leb or 2 places to play :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|santyclz: Natural 2nt has gone the way of the penalty x.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: opps dont have to have fit|pg||
nt|hedyg: well, he loves his hand|pg||
nt|debrose: 5@C seems like a lot to me - I would have just bid 4@C, which North would raise anyway this time|pg||
nt|andyv:  3 loser hand... had to be in game|pg||
nt|hedyg: i wonder would 4@c over 3@s be forcing?|pg||
pc|hT|nt|othered1: I'd count that as a 4-loser hand.  Adjusting at this level is iffy|pg||
nt|debrose: Looks like a four-loser hand to me, and could have been a complete misfit.  I think missing game bidding only 4@C is very unlikely|pg||
nt|andyv:  4@c is only for sissies:)|pg||
nt|andyv:  still need some luck to make 5 here|pg||
nt|debrose: I don't think 4@C would be forcing.  On this hand north would certainly raise - he has an Ace, Jx in clubs and a doubleton diamond when he could have had nothing useful |pg||
nt|hedyg: i think once you have reversed 4@c is fine, if pd can't raise to 5 we are in the right place|pg||
pc|h4|nt|chorush: I don't blame Wildavsky for this. Why should he think he has 2 places to play with his hand?|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hA|pg||
nt|athene: a spec suggests that Martel should have doubled 3@C|pg||
nt|athene: given the state of the match|pg||
nt|yo_yo: to see whether Fleisher looks like a sissie, see: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=545&Itemid=|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dJ|nt|chorush: dbling 3 clubs would be silly. State of the match is meaningless; 37 boards to go|pg||
nt|hedyg: duck?|pg||
nt|debrose: Note how game is  not cold even with North having all those useful cards|pg||
nt|debrose: I didn't mean game wouldn't make here - just that it's not cold on the N-S cards|pg||
nt|hedyg: if W ducks he needs to play K@d, not easy|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|chorush: Im guessing down 4 and 5 imps to Strul|pg||
nt|andyv:  well, at least we know where the A@D is|pg||
nt|hedyg: mind you the huddle shows him where A@d is|pg||
nt|yo_yo: Mahaffee decided to bid 3NT in the OR|pg||
nt|hedyg: sry Andy :)|pg||
nt|debrose: Nice play by Cohler.|pg||
nt|andyv:  np, Hedy...I love confirmations anyway:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3NT can make if he plays J@c|pg||
nt|debrose: Will you'd always prefer to duck smoothly when you are going to duck, it is often okay to think rather than win quickly|pg||
nt|andyv:  one spec mused that N/S were doing a good job not letting Michael Rosenberg play any hands:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: LOL|pg||
nt|andyv:  prevent defense in bridge:)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Cohler did not duck smoothly and Martin thinking about options.|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok he played top @cs in OR, so 3NT will not make|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg||
nt|andyv:  reasonable line of play|pg||
nt|yo_yo: 3 down in the OR|pg||
nt|debrose: Fleisher knows that Rosenberg is not a big count giver, so can't read anything into his diamond spot.  But gets it right anyway.  Well done!|pg||
nt|yo_yo: terrific play|pg||
nt|andyv:  nice play of K@D... now club lead not safe (as well as possibly trapping Qx of @D in E hand.|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch all  vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: Open one browser window per table|pg||
nt|debrose: He can however rely on Rosenberg to give count in spades - dummy's long suit|pg||
nt|debrose: So he has quite a bit to go on - the hearts are likely to be as they appear (W might have bid 3@H with six)|pg||
nt|andyv:  hard to go wrong from here|pg||
nt|debrose: If clubs are 2-2 he knows he can't go down, so he has to assume someone has three|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Gary looks unhappy as to what he should play now.|pg||
nt|hedyg: Cohler team photos: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=550&Itemid=224|pg||
nt|andyv:  of course, Fleisher doesn't know that yet.|pg||
nt|andyv:  Gary probably cursing the 10@C now|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|c2|pg||
nt|debrose: Perhaps the best reason for playing the diamond King is that LHO may not be able to play a club without giving away a trick - as if the case here|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|c8|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|cA|nt|athene: of course things didn't have to go this well but i think X wasn't outrageous from north's hand|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|cK|nt|andyv:  no finesse|pg||
pc|h2|nt|andyv:  next|pg||
pc|s2|pc|c6|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o39|st||md|1SA5HQJDKJT54CAT87,SQJ642H53D73CKQJ3,SKT97HKT72D92C652,S83HA9864DAQ86C94|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|onebid: probably not, Rob|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: so we change hands|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: 3N cold here|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|onebid: South knows that's not solid clubs:)|pg||
nt|mariner1: a @H lead would have meant 12|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c7|nt|mariner1: same auction in Closed Room here|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c8|nt|mariner1: in Closed Room E led a @S|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c6|nt|onebid: I played in quite a few events with N - won a few - and she bids whatever appeals at the moment|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|cK|nt|mariner1: how did Closed Room only make 10 tricks?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: running clubs|pg||
pc|d2|nt|mariner1: oh N only had 7@C  I was seeing 8|pg||
pc|d8|pc|cT|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|hT|pg||
pc|hA|pc|dT|pc|s2|pc|hK|pg||
pc|h8|pc|dJ|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
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qx|c39|st||md|1SA5HQJDKJT54CAT87,SQJ642H53D73CKQJ3,SKT97HKT72D92C652,S83HA9864DAQ86C94|sv|b|nt|santyclz: If your pd x's 3@c, would you x 3@ds with the s hand?|pg||
nt|athene: yes i think you should|pg||
nt|debrose: 1N?|pg||
nt|debrose: This South hand is not one where it is "necessary" to open 1N with two doubletons, as there is no rebid problem|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|debrose: However many players like to do so anyway|pg||
nt|andyv:  I like 1N... can't ever get it right if I open 1@D|pg||
nt|debrose: With the minors reversed I'd consider it a clear 1N opening, because of the rebid problem if one were to open a minor|pg||
nt|yo_yo: I like 1NT but if not surely it's easy to rebid|pg||
nt|yo_yo: 1@D - 2@C|pg||
nt|hedyg: no temptation for E in OR as bidding went 1@d-p-1@h|pg||
mb|p|nt|yo_yo: what overcalls do they use Debbie?|pg||
nt|andyv:  minors are for slams only|pg||
pc|s4|nt|andyv:  (and 3N:))|pg||
nt|andyv:  effective lead|pg||
nt|debrose: 2@D would have shown diamonds and a major, so Rosenberg had an option but elected not to bid|pg||
nt|debrose: I'm sure he would have bid if nobody were vulnerable|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg||
nt|debrose: Both vul is the worst time to balance aggressively vs. 1N - two ways to lose|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|santyclz: I bet s didn't think he'd be the opening bidder.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|nt|debrose: You go down too much, or you make but would have done better setting them in 1N |pg||
nt|andyv:  dummy dead now|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|hedyg: beautiful 9@D in dummy|pg||
nt|andyv:  yeap|pg||
nt|yo_yo: do they smith peter ?|pg||
nt|andyv:  did Michael miss a beat by not winning the A@h and returning club?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: Cohler has petered in @H|pg||
nt|hedyg: was that count or a Smith?|pg||
nt|debrose: They do play Smith, but I believe this was count|pg||
pc|hA|nt|hedyg: but then Michael could have won the 2nd @H|pg||
nt|debrose: Smith "unless count necessary or continuation of opening leaders suit out of question"  In this case both seem about right|pg||
nt|andyv:  11 imp pick up for Fleisher team on board 38|pg||
nt|debrose: Michael didn't need a signal to win second heart - he can count to thirteen without one|pg||
nt|hedyg: well ok, maybe not|pg||
nt|hedyg: LOL|pg||
pc|c7|nt|debrose: He didn't win the heart because he didn't know dummy had no entry|pg||
pc|s2|pc|hT|pg||
nt|hedyg: true|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|nt|debrose: A count signal in spades would have been useful :)|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
nt|debrose: But the lead could have been from four or five|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|nt|athene: now declarer has to decide whether to cash the @CA|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s7|pg||
nt|athene: if he doesn't, he might never get it|pg||
mc|8|nt|athene: but cashing it does set up another trick for East and give up on some endplay chances|pg||
nt|athene: he knows east has the @SA (west is a passed hand and showed up with @HK @DAQ)|pg||
pg||
qx|o40|st||md|2SAKT2H954DQ92C962,SHQ763DK85CAKQT75,SQ753HAJ82DA4CJ43,SJ9864HKTDJT763C8|sv|o|nt|mariner1: getting to slam was very good here in 2@C|pg||
nt|mariner1: Closed Room|pg||
mb|1H|an|may have any longer side suit|nt|ahollan1: if slow auction from Rozanne was invite, then 3N probably the most costly bid|pg||
nt|daman: unfortunately the Moss team is running out of time   7 boards to accumulate 45 IMPs     tall order|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well we can't say there haven't been enough slams this set|pg||
nt|daman: they had their chances|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|an|3+ !S less than gf|nt|onebid: RKC should end the suspense|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: 2@C good call|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think it is amazing that they even played this set -- after first 3 sessions it would have been very easy to give up|pg||
mb|3C|an|6+ good clubs, 4 hearts|nt|onebid: I totatally disagree - when I have 4 card support, I tell partner the good news right away!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right key feature is source of tricks NOT the singleton @D|pg||
nt|mariner1: will the 2@S jam them out of slam, or help|pg||
nt|onebid: hmmm|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sounds like Judy does not have agreement that some have where immediate splinter guarantees an honor in all unbid suits|pg||
nt|onebid: I bid 2NT right away - not splinter|pg||
nt|mariner1: in Closed Room EW never bid|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: ahhh   i can live with 2N|pg||
nt|mariner1: I like Migry's style, she does not sit on her hands...........|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: but abhor splinter|pg||
pc|c3|nt|onebid: would anyone else bid 2@S?|pg||
nt|mariner1: if you sit on your hands you lose a lot of matches,,,,,,,,,, and have flat|pg||
nt|mariner1: hands..........|pg||
nt|mariner1: Migry is after a swing|pg||
nt|onebid: or flat... never mind|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in this situation -- i like -- don't think i'd always do it|pg||
nt|onebid: instead of 4@H, how about 4@D now?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: writing by Cohen|pg||
pc|c8|nt|ahollan1: hmm 4@H as picture bid?|pg||
pc|c9|nt|ahollan1: 4@D after partner's natural 3@D sounds like a @D fit|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|daman: 2@S serves a purpose   it gums up the auction and it might allow you and your partner to find a useful sacrifice if you have a fit   on the other hand, you could easily go for a ...|pg||
nt|daman: huge number for entering a live auction|pg||
pc|cA|nt|mariner1: S figures its on a hook at worst|pg||
nt|onebid: Yes - mis-saw auction|pg||
nt|ahollan1: my only question 3@H vs 4@H|pg||
nt|onebid: 3@S|pg||
pc|c4|pc|d3|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cJ|nt|ahollan1: 3@S seems too ambiguous -- about @S holding, and which red suit supported|pg||
nt|onebid: both black?|pg||
nt|onebid: round is clubs and hearts|pg||
nt|mariner1: I meant minor kings........ eyes spinning today|pg||
nt|onebid: mine too Rob:)|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: since 3@H forcing, i would assume 3@S=@D|pg||
nt|onebid: not on Stasha's auction certainly - but on mine:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or just trying to get to 3N|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: migry not thinking, |pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|mariner1: both round K's in pocket,,,,, life is good and K@C is 3rd|pg||
pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: Dinkin leads other match by 8     one table finished, i think, the other bidding 89|pg||
nt|onebid: had an eye exam and eyes were dilated|pg||
nt|onebid: 8 is really close|pg||
nt|ahollan1: duh   96 boards, not 90|pg||
nt|mariner1: yes and they have 8 boards left to compare|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think i had some of judy's eye drops|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that's my story -- and i'm sticking to it|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg||
nt|mariner1: they need 1 imp a board in 8, and we need 8 imps a board here|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sK|nt|onebid: Levitina down in 6@C|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c40|st||md|2SAKT2H954DQ92C962,SHQ763DK85CAKQT75,SQ753HAJ82DA4CJ43,SJ9864HKTDJT763C8|sv|o|mb|1C|nt|andyv:  good pick up for Fleisher as CR was in the inelegant contract of 2@c|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: so Fleisher bringing in 19 imps on the last 2 hands, well done|pg||
mb|2C|nt|athene: neither East goes to the 3-level with 7222 at this vulnerability|pg||
mb|p|nt|chorush: the vulnerability is for children school would bid 3 spades but I agree with 2|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|andyv:  looks like a safe contract|pg||
nt|debrose: Heavy 2@C bid by Cohler.  Could have been very bad if Rosenberg had similar weak hand with second suit being hearts|pg||
nt|andyv:  good lead|pg||
nt|debrose: But alternative is to overbid with void in partner's suit also not attractive|pg||
nt|andyv:  awkward hand for W to bid|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|c5|pg||
nt|othered1: It's not stylish, but you are allowed to have extras sometimes|pg||
nt|andyv:  2@c is always stayman:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: well, his extra is void in partners suit|pg||
nt|debrose: absolutely - rebidding a minor at the 2 level, while showing a "minimum" is certainly wider range than a 1N rebid and responder should frequently invite game with close hands|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: small break in the action.|pg||
nt|debrose: I think his extra is AKQTxx, maximum high cards, and a second four card suit.  The void is iffy - alas, sometime we respond 1@S with xxxx |pg||
nt|hedyg: oh good! coffee anybody?|pg||
nt|andyv:  black for me, Hedy|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok!|pg||
nt|andyv:  easy to see how to make this hand... much more difficult to play and the taps are going to be annoying.|pg||
nt|othered1: He does need only 8 tricks|pg||
nt|debrose: On this auction some play that a 2@H rebid by responder is non-forcing, and use 2@D as only force.  This is a reasonable way to play, but I know Rosenberg doesn't like it|pg||
nt|debrose: and I doubt has that agreement with Cohler|pg||
nt|hedyg: and can disc some @hs eventually|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|andyv:  in mp, probably right to lead @h to 10.... here, probably need to lead @h to K...if it wins, you can attack @ds..if it loses, defense will have to lead trump and declarer will gain a tempo|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hK|nt|othered1: that's effective|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg||
nt|chorush: normally, you want to cash a high diamond first. Here Martel may just lead the 10|pg||
nt|athene: yes|pg||
nt|athene: you don't especially want to use up the @HA to return for the diamond finesse|pg||
nt|andyv:  now, playing for over tricks|pg||
nt|andyv:  nice play|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|d3|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|s4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg||
nt|debrose: Some have noted the strange looking auction in the other room.  Watch Ekeblad-Weischel, and you will see a lot of what is known as canape|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg||
nt|andyv:  duck |pg||
nt|othered1: A fine style, getting your majors in at once|pg||
mc|9|nt|andyv:  CR 4@c was made... so, 1 imp to Fleisher|pg||
pg||
qx|o41|st||md|3S9764H62DJTCKJT84,SKT3HKDQ765432CQ7,SAQ85HA743DA9CA65,SJ2HQJT985DK8C932|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: nice push|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now 9 imps per board for MOSS|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|mariner1: who gace Al the abacus back :)|pg||
nt|onebid: I think EW can make 3NT|pg||
nt|mariner1: gave|pg||
mb|3C|an|mixed raise|mb|p|nt|daman: I would have tried 2NT with the W hand in this situation|pg||
mb|3N|nt|mariner1: 3N had play EW|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: she lays down the dummy and says the good news is that it's 50 a trick|pg||
nt|mariner1: I am with George, this was a swing chance|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: in many parts of the world south might open 3@S instead of 2@S -- honestly, i have no strong feelings one way or the other, except maybe hand good enought so 2@S ends auction - as ...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: here|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d8|nt|onebid: 3 wouldn't occur to me I must admit. Rob?|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|mariner1: not I either|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c6|nt|daman: mancuso now up by 2|pg||
nt|onebid: It is true that many play extremely weak 2's|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in Australia/New Zealand, more an issue of hyperactive 3level preempts|pg||
pc|c9|nt|ahollan1: of course for many of them 2@S would be 2-suiter|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|onebid: well judged by Pollack to pitch losing diamond|pg||
mc|5|pg||
qx|c41|st||md|3S9764H62DJTCKJT84,SKT3HKDQ765432CQ7,SAQ85HA743DA9CA65,SJ2HQJT985DK8C932|sv|e|nt|othered1: Most of their canapes, however, are into @C, no?  Unlike a more broadly-based canape style|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|debrose: I don't know the details of their system|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|chorush: normal to lead trump here|pg||
nt|santyclz: Not as if any other lead looks tempting anyway.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: decl back from men's room|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|andyv:  a more reasonable contract than 3N played in the CR|pg||
pc|hK|nt|debrose: The 1@H overcall in the other room, combined with Mahaffey's decision not to show spades, led to a probably inferior contract|pg||
nt|othered1: In the open room south's decision to preempt in @C isn't ridiculous, just didnt work out well.|pg||
pc|hA|nt|santyclz: He wasn't listening...|pg||
pc|h8|nt|debrose: On some days 3N might make when 4@S goes down, and neither is great, but I think we'd rather be in 4@S|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|nt|athene: heart finesse, try to scramble a few tricks?|pg||
pc|h6|nt|andyv:  @c to K and finesse in @S|pg||
nt|debrose: I agree Mahaffey's decision was reasonable - with such a weak hand he did not expect to have game|pg||
nt|andyv:  this might not work too well|pg||
nt|othered1: EW's failure to bid just because it was their turn isn't going to make the play of this any easier|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|andyv:  well, 9 tricks were available in 3N but a lot of good guessing needed to be done|pg||
nt|debrose: Well, actually once he sees the heart split, I think the fact that East didn't bid will be very helpful|pg||
nt|debrose: Certainly if he also sees the @DK he will be able to place all the other high cards|pg||
nt|othered1: yes, but since he's seen the @H split, it may be too late|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|othered1: when he sees the @DK he may be down|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|andyv:  such an optimist, Ed:)|pg||
pc|d4|pc|h4|pg||
nt|othered1: nice play discarding @D|pg||
nt|andyv:  trading tricks here|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|andyv:  still comes down to guessing the Q@C|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|h7|pg||
nt|yo_yo: surely he cant get the @C right|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|s4|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|debrose: He will guess the club right, since he has indeed seen the @DK and is not yet down|pg||
nt|othered1: Of course, he also has @C count here, if @DK was honest|pg||
nt|debrose: honest?|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|nt|santyclz: Ahhh, I finally see the purpose of the @h10.|pg||
nt|chorush: Wildaavsky may make Stansby regret the 10 of hearts. It is possible he could get out for down 1|pg||
nt|santyclz: If s played the @h9 it would be automatic to duck the @h exit and finesse on the way back.|pg||
nt|andyv:  E has shown up with QJxxxs of @h and an honor in @d... why didn't he bid?|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
nt|yo_yo: well done!|pg||
nt|debrose: I think when a diamond is led off dummy it would be a "falsecard" of sorts not to play the King with any number|pg||
nt|othered1: decision time|pg||
nt|andyv:  lack of 1H bid may have been costly this time|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|nt|chorush: well now we will see|pg||
pc|cT|pc|sK|pg||
nt|othered1: what was he playing for?|pg||
nt|debrose: he didn't draw trump?|pg||
mc|9|nt|hedyg: the J@s did it!|pg||
nt|andyv:  hard to believe|pg||
nt|gosia: he didn't do that ?|pg||
pg||
qx|o42|st||md|4ST75HKQTDAQJTC985,SAQJ2HA963DK32C43,S84H8752D754CAKT6,SK963HJ4D986CQJ72|sv|b|nt|onebid: Kit??? nah|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if kit doesn't open 3@S -- nobody does|pg||
nt|mariner1: EW running out of time and this board probably will not help|pg||
nt|onebid: well, maybe, but I'd be shocked if he did|pg||
nt|onebid: Is Susan Boyle going to sing?|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|daman: ikn the Final   Shawn Quinn overcalled 2@S with 2NT on Board 90    now in 3NT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh - i don't think he will bid 3@S -- but sounds like our preempting strategies all the same -- so need kit for fringe opinion :)|pg||
mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|daman: Board 91|pg||
mb|d|an|support|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|onebid: lunatic fringe? lol|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hehe|pg||
nt|mariner1: in some past matches we have seen a lot of teams using very weak 2 level 2|pg||
nt|mariner1: suited calls which blew them apart,,,,, yes would be pushes in their own|pg||
nt|mariner1: areas....... these women play aggressive yet very disciplined|pg||
nt|onebid: Woolsey is a great player and commentator too|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: and his book on partnership defense is classic|pg||
nt|daman: Kit is a brilliant analyst|pg||
mb|p|nt|onebid: also has a wonderful Barbu site|pg||
pc|s7|nt|mariner1: Al is not singing, will be making dinner,,,,,, he has all on a diet ment though|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|mariner1: menu|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Lynn-Beth play "Multi" 2@D with some ghastly hands|pg||
pc|s4|nt|onebid: as many do|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: see food diet|pg||
nt|ahollan1: [see food   eat food]|pg||
pc|c2|nt|onebid: I'll drink to that|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg||
nt|mariner1: I see someone open a 5 point or Less VUL vs NV 2 suiter at the two level and I|pg||
nt|mariner1: cringe|pg||
nt|daman: Quinn made 3NT on 91   now Mancuso by 9|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: 2@C as majors isn't Landy    they play 2@D=1-suit @H or @S, 2@H/@S = Major + Minor|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not sure what name that treatment uses|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|mariner1: anyway we have 5 boards to score...... getting tight|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: one vote for Multi Landy|pg||
nt|onebid: only 4 imps scored this set|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|s6|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|nt|mariner1: need 11+ now|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c42|st||md|4ST75HKQTDAQJTC985,SAQJ2HA963DK32C43,S84H8752D754CAKT6,SK963HJ4D986CQJ72|sv|b|nt|santyclz: So 3 more imps to Strul who have been steadily chipping away at the lead.|pg||
nt|hedyg: he believed Rosenberg|pg||
nt|andyv:  did what?|pg||
nt|debrose: Wow, you'd think he of all people would know better|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  already ruffed with 10@s|pg||
nt|hedyg: on Q@S Michael played the J|pg||
nt|debrose: He's played a lot of boards against, and talked a lot of bridge with MR|pg||
mb|1C|mb|d|nt|othered1: very nicely conceived by east|pg||
nt|andyv:  so, he played michael for 6 hearts, stiff spade and @d honor and not bidding?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: he will be pleased to know he still won imps|pg||
nt|debrose: But what was the harm if playing the Spade Ace.  Perhaps we missed something in the play|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Fleisher was fooled on the spade Jack.|pg||
nt|andyv:  only if N wanted to be deceived.|pg||
mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|d|an|alerted -3|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|hedyg: support X this time|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz: Jerry Premo points out it's Lew and |pg||
nt|athene: not much fun for declarer, this one|pg||
nt|athene: he might duck a club and hope for 3-3 perhaps|pg||
nt|debrose: Thanks for confirmation Willie.  Does he realize it didn't matter - wasn't he down only one anyway if he cashed the spade and they didn't break?|pg||
nt|andyv:  still, gained 4 imps on board:)  Wish all my disasters were that unsuccessful!|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz: Chipping.|pg||
pc|hK|nt|yo_yo: at last we see some action by MR|pg||
nt|hedyg: will be happy to find AK@C in N|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Michael finally getting to play a hand.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c3|nt|hedyg: QJ @c useful discards|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
nt|debrose: Fleisher Kamil open all balanced hands not in the 1N range 1@C - their 1@D opening shows an unbalanced hand|pg||
nt|debrose: For newer players - when you are watching, try to pay special attention to which hands experts draw trumps on and which they don't|pg||
nt|debrose: When you can see where your tricks are coming from, and have no reason not to draw trump, by all means do so|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|hedyg: sometimes opps draw them for you :)|pg||
nt|debrose: Notice how often experts start with a side suit before drawing trump - there can be many reasons|pg||
nt|andyv:  they think that you forgot to draw them|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|nt|athene: ducking the spade gave a tempo away|pg||
nt|athene: the defence don't get to cash their diamonds AND hearts now|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|debrose: Most basic are needing trumps for ruffs, needing trumps as entries, or just overall "timing"|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dA|nt|chorush: looks like d1 which will chip another imp away|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
nt|yo_yo: well in England we talk about the man living on the Embankment because he forgot to draw trumps|pg||
pc|sT|nt|debrose: "Timing" would often mean setting up a trick(s) for a discard before letting the opponents get the lead to set up their trick(s)|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|d7|nt|andyv:  persistant|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|s2|pc|cT|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|s9|pc|hT|pg||
nt|hedyg: now 9@H is big |pg||
mc|9|nt|debrose: On defense, when declarer is not drawing trump it is often best to lead them yourself, as is being demonstrated|pg||
pg||
qx|o43|st||md|1SA8HK83DAK93C9742,SK532H62DJT752CAK,SQ976HT9754D4CJ86,SJT4HAQJDQ86CQT53|sv|o|nt|onebid: they are a great team. And Boyd getting Sportsmanship award in Washington this summer|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|mariner1: now much here to hope for EW|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|mariner1: not much|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|Vugraphu6: some discussion re 2d call|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|onebid: Well, it looks as though Glasson will play loser of other match for USA II|pg||
nt|mariner1: @D lead means an imp...... otherwise flat|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
nt|mariner1: well we are now in a zero sum session - 24  to  24|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|c6|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|h4|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|mariner1: and a push coming here|pg||
nt|onebid: Is Al making dim sum for zero sum?|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: ba da bump|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ooooo dim sum sounds GOOD|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c43|st||md|1SA8HK83DAK93C9742,SK532H62DJT752CAK,SQ976HT9754D4CJ86,SJT4HAQJDQ86CQT53|sv|o|nt|andyv:  good point|pg||
mb|1N|nt|debrose: So on a higher level declarer might not draw trump as a sort of bluff, because he prefers for the defense to play them |pg||
mb|2D|an|alerted|nt|debrose: But that is certainly not what I would can a common reason for not drawing them|pg||
nt|debrose: 2@D shows diamonds and a major, but is not part of "DONT"|pg||
mb|2H|nt|hedyg: always 5+ @ds?|pg||
nt|debrose: 2@C would show majors, double would be "penalty" and majors natural|pg||
mb|d|an|alerted|nt|athene: 1nt surely preferable with east?|pg||
nt|debrose: I doubt they have the agreement it is always 5+ diamonds.|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok|pg||
nt|andyv:  dbl should ask pd to continue |pg||
nt|hedyg: so could be 4 4|pg||
nt|debrose: They are not a regular partnership, but if they have discussed it I'd imagine nine cards either way is possible|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: it describes the hand overall much better|pg||
mb|2S|nt|chorush: I agree|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|hedyg: is this 14-16 NT?|pg||
nt|debrose: 4-4 is usually not expected, but with (1-4)4-4 and a good hand would certainly be possible.  Bidding with a balanced hand over 1N would be very unusual|pg||
nt|debrose: 15-17 NT - good 14?|pg||
nt|hedyg: could be|pg||
nt|andyv:  4-4 hands better resereved for mp play|pg||
nt|hedyg: all primes|pg||
mb|3S|nt|debrose: Yes, non vul at matchpoints I would consider it possible to bid with 4-4 and a balanced hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: this looks like 5@s 4@d to me|pg||
mb|3N|nt|andyv:  looks like a poor bid to me|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphu6: lucky to miss 3N?|pg||
mb|p|nt|debrose: I don't understand the 3@S bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: but east didn't seem to take him for four of them|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: two in a row for MR...and away we go!!|pg||
nt|andyv:  and looks like -3 imps|pg||
pc|h3|nt|athene: you might make 3nt :) but would have to be on form!|pg||
nt|chorush: diamonds is a "frozen" suit. Neither side canlead it first without forfeiting a trick|pg||
nt|andyv:  not a great hand to lead from|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|hedyg: he just might make this|pg||
nt|othered1: wonder if he can make it with that lead.  North doesn't get on lead very quickly|pg||
nt|andyv:  club lead might have been safer|pg||
nt|andyv:  now hard to stop 3N|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg||
nt|hedyg: nice 8@d, great unblock|pg||
nt|debrose: this certainly seems to have play.  South can't get North in, but declarer has his own problems getting off dummy I suppose |pg||
nt|debrose: Note the unblock - just good technique of the @D8|pg||
nt|andyv:  yes, again a thoughtful play|pg||
nt|debrose: excuse me - be back in a few minutes|pg||
nt|othered1: with south opening 1N, hard to see how 8 could ever be wrong, but careful play nontheless|pg||
nt|hedyg: if he plays a @d to hand now S will surely play @c|pg||
nt|yo_yo: @d seems likely yes|pg||
nt|othered1: if he clears @C from dummy, south can drive @S entry. and as cards figure to lie, south can't unblock @H|pg||
nt|hedyg: if he unblocks AK@C S knows that the only card his pd can have is Q@s|pg||
nt|hedyg: sry Ed|pg||
pc|d2|nt|debrose: Will South know when the @HJ is?  Another note for newer players - It is usually best as declarer to win with the higher of equals|pg||
nt|othered1: but then south will give west the last trick with @D.  So this might have been cold, had east cleared @C.  |pg||
pc|h7|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|debrose: sorry, *where* the @HJ is|pg||
nt|othered1: now the timing is wrong for declarer|pg||
nt|othered1: if south reads the hand correctly with @C play|pg||
nt|debrose: The fact that North discarding a heart should help South.  Perhaps he should have discarded the Ten even.  Is there any heart layout where that could cost?|pg||
pc|c7|nt|othered1: Onthe other hand, will south play east to have made a non-double dummy play?|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|nt|hedyg: so you clear AK@C, play a @H to ace @cs and @d|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|cA|nt|santyclz: Unfortunately for n, that seems to have been the case for all suits.  |pg||
pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h6|nt|hedyg: lose 2@ds, 1@h and 1@s|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hA|nt|andyv:  quandry for S|pg||
nt|othered1: We see that play and its very likely east, a thourough analyst considered it.|pg||
nt|debrose: Rosenberg is playing opener for the Ace Queen of spades|pg||
nt|andyv:  that's why 10@h would have been most helpful|pg||
nt|hedyg: no doesnt work...S takes and plays a @d to dummy..|pg||
nt|othered1: And that gives north exactly nothing for his free @H bid|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|hedyg: and then opps make 2@ss no matter where they are|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|s2|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|andyv:  difficult hand for all sides|pg||
pc|d6|nt|hedyg: very|pg||
nt|debrose: That's true Hedy - perhaps from the beginning was hoping for AQ of spades and only three diamonds.  I'm not sure why he couldn't cash clubs earlier though|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|s6|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s3|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d7|nt|othered1: well defended|pg||
pc|hT|pc|s4|pg||
nt|debrose: As was said, we do know a thorough analyst considered it - And knowing him, in retrospect he will be very unhappy with himself|pg||
nt|hedyg: because then after ducking 1@d S could play A@s and @s and kill dummy?|pg||
mc|8|nt|andyv:  yes|pg||
pg||
qx|o44|st||md|2SK64HQJDQJT985CT5,SJ985HAK742D7CK42,SQT7HT8653D32CQ73,SA32H9DAK64CAJ986|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: mathematicians haven't closed up shop yet|pg||
nt|mariner1: antepenultimate board of the match here|pg||
mb|1S|an|may have any longer side suit|nt|daman: would we open 2@S with the S hand?|pg||
nt|mariner1: Al we call this position Mathemagical|pg||
nt|ahollan1: have any of the panel ever won more thanm 17 imps on a board?|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|an|art g.f.|mb|2D|mb|2H!|an|longer hearts|nt|mariner1: would we admit it :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|an|relay|nt|onebid: Bart did, when teammate came back and said "win 'em all"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: great line|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|an|exactly 4!S 5!H (if 2-2 no A/K in 2-2)|mb|p|mb|3D|an|relay|mb|p|mb|3S|an| 4-5-1-3 or 4-5-0-4|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|onebid: Cohen trying for ruff|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: i'm in a loop -- can't figure out which is best defence -- so far any small black card seems right|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but not positive about @S|pg||
nt|onebid: either works|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C THEN @S looks much easier|pg||
nt|mariner1: Al 2 24's would tie this up....... Mathemagically speaking|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: now 3rd @C|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|nt|ahollan1: declarer doomed|pg||
nt|ahollan1: I like Rozanne's choice of @C rather than @S -- knowing there were TWO pitches available with @S switch|pg||
nt|mariner1: one thing about the next 6 session event, both teams are well warmed up, no|pg||
nt|mariner1: cobwebs, so I expect to see great play from the outset........ should be very|pg||
nt|mariner1: interesting|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cT|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c44|st||md|2SK64HQJDQJT985CT5,SJ985HAK742D7CK42,SQT7HT8653D32CQ73,SA32H9DAK64CAJ986|sv|n|nt|debrose: Yes, that makes sense Hedy.|pg||
nt|hedyg: very tuff hand!|pg||
mb|1H|nt|andyv:  2 more boards for this session which has been very kind to Fleisher team|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: but he will sleep it over and find a way :)|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|hedyg: much harder at the table!|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|athene: west might have been planning just to pass any rebid|pg||
nt|athene: 2@D, @H or @S|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: might get to game with the competition|pg||
nt|athene: but will now wake up and bid 4@H - especially if south raises clubs|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: Kind, yes, but Fleisher hasn't just sat there with a basket open.  They've earned quite a bit of it.|pg||
mb|p|nt|debrose: 3N shows 15+-17|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: MR is trying again.|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|chorush: I doubt that. Even opposite 12-14 his hand is worth 3H|pg||
nt|yo_yo: they dont promise reverse strenght for that 2@S bid I see|pg||
nt|andyv:  no question about that...Fleisher team has played very well|pg||
nt|debrose: This should be fairly standard playing 2/1 GF, but I find most club players don't have that agreement, and bid 3N "to play"|pg||
nt|andyv:  in 2/1 auction, probably not|pg||
nt|debrose: 2N should be minimum or 18-19 (planning to bid 4N next time usually)|pg||
nt|yo_yo: this one shouldnt take long when the clubs behave|pg||
nt|debrose: Look for the safety play for four club tricks|pg||
nt|hedyg: how will he play the @cs?|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|nt|yo_yo: well he needs 4 @C tricks|pg||
nt|debrose: It is possible to cater to either opponent having QTxx.|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|nt|othered1: with lead driving an entry to east there may be entry problems with @C safety play on other lies fo the cards|pg||
pc|c2|nt|athene: the strong club 1@D opener buried the NS club fit - but that also kept E-W out of the auction effectively|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
pc|d3|nt|othered1: that's an interesting play|pg||
pc|d4|nt|andyv:  now a quick claim|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h2|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|dA|pg||
nt|othered1: east will feel more comfortable about @C now|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
nt|chorush: this looks like a large gain for robinson|pg||
nt|andyv:  Gary must dream of 5-0 breaks all the time:)|pg||
nt|debrose: As some specs have pointed out, the normal safety play would involve cahsing the Ace first, but there are some potential entry problems here|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cA|nt|chorush: will make up for a lot of that chipping|pg||
nt|debrose: This play loses only to stiff Queen in the North hand|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|c8|pc|hQ|pc|s5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c6|pc|hJ|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg||
nt|debrose: Still much better for four tricks than playing to the King and back to hand, losing to three possible small singletons in the north hand |pg||
pc|h9|pc|d5|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|s2|pc|d8|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
nt|andyv:  psuedo squeeze didn't pan out|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o45|st||md|3SQ87H742DAQT95CJT,SA95HJT8DK7CAQ843,SKJT642HAKQ63DC95,S3H95DJ86432CK762|sv|b|nt|mariner1: now 8 imps and 3 compares|pg||
nt|mariner1: penultimate board here...........|pg||
nt|ahollan1: one pair included in System Summary Form   2@D reverse after 1@C opening on min|pg||
nt|ahollan1: don't know what the means, but south hand made me think of it|pg||
nt|mariner1: our next 6 session MATCH for USA Team  2 will start in 136 minutes|pg||
nt|onebid: hardly minimum|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|mariner1: http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php - BBO Vugraph Schedule|pg||
nt|mariner1: (set up to show times for your area)|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: just the shame made me think of it|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|onebid: just not quite 9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: undo -- pollack decides NOT to play the singleton 10  :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: sorry, she's still thinking|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: very reasonalbe choice of 2N, don't you think?|pg||
nt|onebid: good choice by Rosie|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: just giving you grief Chuck -- for comic relief|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: saving the t for an entry|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Rob will say it officially soon, but WELL DONE CHUCK|pg||
nt|onebid: and she had 4 of them|pg||
mb|p|nt|onebid: 10s|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if it doesn't count in pinochle -- 4 of a kind is meaningless|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cT|nt|daman: thast's an undo|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
nt|mariner1: so we can Congratulate Glasson Team, Moss team came back and made this|pg||
nt|mariner1: interesting....|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|onebid: well done chuck - is that what's for dinner?|pg||
nt|mariner1: Glasson of course wins the chance to play in another tough contest..........|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: and shockingly -- we don't yet know who opponent will be|pg||
nt|mariner1: Al owes us several dinners now...........|pg||
nt|onebid: :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: talk is cheap, let's talk turkey :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: duck, duck, goose?|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: it's official -- i've lost it|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: if i ever had it|pg||
pc|c2|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|d3|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|nt|mariner1: btw, a big thanks to all the superb Operators and Jan Martel,,,,,,, the equipment|pg||
nt|mariner1: did not arrive so they pressed on with borrowed computers and gear, fought off|pg||
nt|mariner1: the demons and presented some excellent bridge..........|pg||
nt|onebid: no squeeze unfortunately|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hK|nt|onebid: A shame that it's always the case!|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|mariner1: also a big thanks to all the teams for a truly fine show!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Sue Picus took amazing view with the North hand after Perlman opened 1@C|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg||
nt|onebid: the deoms I mean|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sadistic, vengeful bridge gods they are|pg||
nt|onebid: demons|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c45|st||md|3SQ87H742DAQT95CJT,SA95HJT8DK7CAQ843,SKJT642HAKQ63DC95,S3H95DJ86432CK762|sv|b|nt|santyclz: 11 imps.   As you said.|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|athene: 4@S from west and 4NT from north?|pg||
nt|andyv:  5@c by W appears to be good sac against 4@s|pg||
mb|2S|nt|athene: then south has a great hand|pg||
nt|chorush: this hand could be very swingy|pg||
nt|santyclz: We still don't have a result from the closed room on 19 so things are tentative.|pg||
nt|athene: he might try 5NT over 4NT :)|pg||
mb|3C|nt|andyv:  question is how to get there|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|athene: reasonably enough, south gives his partner a lot of leeway|pg||
nt|athene: knowing he is short in spades|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|andyv:  aggressive over call didn't do it|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|c5|pg||
nt|chorush: this may be in some difficulty on spade tap|pg||
nt|santyclz: I'm told in the closed room on bd 19 they also got to 4@s instead of 3nt but made 5.|pg||
nt|othered1: and directed the winning lead . . . |pg||
pc|s7|nt|othered1: (winning relative to the overtrick)|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|santyclz: A low @h (intending a dmy reversal) would be revealing.|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg||
nt|andyv:  choice of leads is interesting... I wonder what E's thought process was on that one.|pg||
nt|debrose: I too am surprised by no 5@C bid from Rosenberg.  I'll report back tomorrow on his reasoning:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol ty!|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: looks like 5 here|pg||
nt|debrose: My guess is he didn't see the 3@C bid|pg||
nt|andyv:  another imp for Fleisher who close out this set in an impressive fashion.|pg||
pc|c4|pc|sT|pc|c2|nt|santyclz: Well, things got even more confusing.  They've entered the score for bd 19, but in the wrong direction.|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d6|nt|chorush: there was a greedy double of 5D in the other room. After a double declarer might find his way home|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|pg||
nt|chorush: I think we have the play incorrect here|pg||
pc|hA|nt|athene: perhaps east ruffed @HK and forced with spade|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: he played @Hk then claimed when doug showed out|pg||
nt|chorush: we don't know for sure but they have board 8 scored as 8 imps to Robinson when we think it is 13 imps to struhl. So Robinson's lead might be 21|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: not going to be corrected but obviously wrong score|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg||
pc|sK|nt|debrose: That does sometimes happen with screens - to some players more than others to be sure - and to many players it probably never happens|pg||
nt|hedyg: interesting @c lead with no @c bid in OR|pg||
nt|debrose: however I know from experience it could happen to Rosenberg|pg||
mc|11|nt|hedyg: ty all|pg||
nt|andyv:  thank you Kath, Ed, Debbie, Hedy and all the specs... an enjoyable set to watch.|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty Willie|pg||
nt|yo_yo: bye everyone|pg||
nt|debrose: bye everyone|pg||
nt|andyv:  bye|pg||
nt|othered1: bye|pg||
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