vg|2009 USBC B Semi Final,Segment 6 of 8,I,76,90,Welland,141,Robinson,159|
rs|2SE+1,2SE+1,5DW-1,5DW-1,3NS+1,3NS=,5HE=,4HW+1,5DNx-2,5SW=,4SW+2,7SE-1,4CE=,2DW-1,4HW+1,6HE-1,4SS+1,4SS+1,3DS-1,3NS-2,2HE-1,3NW+1,3SN+2,3SN+2,4SW+2,4SW+1,3NE=,3NE-1,2HN=,2SE-2|
pn|BCohen,Woolsey,Smith,Stewart,Boyd,Welland,Robinson,Willenken|pg||
qx|o76|st||md|2SAK32HA754DJ95C75,S8HKQT96DAT83CAK4,SQ6H832DQ4CQJT982,SJT9754HJDK762C63|sv|n|nt|raghavan: Wc all kibits|pg||
nt|odysseus69: good afternoon all|pg||
nt|xenya: hello everyone|pg||
nt|raghavan: Victor|pg||
nt|othered1: Hello, everybody|pg||
nt|odysseus69: Hi Vladimir|pg||
nt|raghavan: Wc Victor|pg||
nt|odysseus69: Hi Raghaven|pg||
nt|mariner1: Hello everyone and welcome back to United States Bridge Championship 2009,|pg||
nt|mariner1: White Plains, New York, USA  -|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=27&Itemid=224  -|pg||
nt|mariner1: Tournament Site|pg||
nt|raghavan: Wc Rob|pg||
nt|xenya: hello Victor  Raghavan   Rob|pg||
nt|raghavan: Wc Vladimir|pg||
nt|mariner1: hi Vlad, Ed, Raghavan, Victor and all|pg||
mb|1C!|an|strong|nt|othered1: Hi, Rob!|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S!|an|constructive w/ 6!s|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: well we start with a fizzle|pg||
pc|c7|nt|othered1: 2@S is a good dtop|pg||
nt|othered1: stop|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hJ|nt|raghavan: can make 3|pg||
nt|mariner1: well should lose 3@S a @H and a @D|pg||
nt|othered1: one of the red tricks may go away|pg||
nt|mariner1: yes one can in fact|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|c4|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s4|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|d3|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s3|pc|hT|nt|raghavan: made 4|pg||
pc|h3|pc|sT|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|nt|raghavan: no only 3>|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|dT|mc|9|pg||
qx|c76|st||md|2SAK32HA754DJ95C75,S8HKQT96DAT83CAK4,SQ6H832DQ4CQJT982,SJT9754HJDK762C63|sv|n|nt|haans: hi all welcome (closed room stop play 10 minutes ago)|pg||
nt|dcbutler: hello everyone|pg||
nt|lestergold: hi Hand David and all Mike here from rainy Reading|pg||
nt|lestergold: west with an excellent hand will be looking for something better than a part score but i dont think there is anythingt|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|raghavan: Wc all kibits|pg||
mb|2S!|nt|lestergold: not want Welland wants to hear|pg||
nt|haans: natural bidding by both pairs|pg||
nt|lestergold: a non vul wjs|pg||
nt|lestergold: at least it will warn him off game|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: hello all  |pg||
nt|lestergold: exciting hnad but this will be a push|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: welcome back to Whilte Plains NY |pg||
mb|p|nt|raghavan: If opp miss taking C it will disappear making 5 |pg||
nt|cindy:  hi all|pg||
nt|raghavan: making 6|pg||
nt|lestergold: will make 5 |pg||
pc|c7|nt|lestergold: should make the 8 spades is an enormous card|pg||
pc|cA|nt|marlowepi: hi shirley. should i be moe or larry? wait, wrong trio, sorry|pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: Willie here again. Hi to all and enjoy.|pg||
nt|sybarra: hi Willie :) |pg||
nt|marlowepi: hi willie & shirley & specs|pg||
nt|marlowepi: fortunately, Michael is a far better player than speller (see his profile card)|pg||
nt|sybarra: Willie will fix |pg||
pc|c2|nt|sybarra: same lead in the other room,  |pg||
nt|marlowepi: thx willie|pg||
nt|sybarra: both N's provided a good lead director  (just kidding)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: sorry about that..was in a hurry and started a bit late; needed to catch up.|pg||
nt|onebid: ask you know who - Bart said all|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|lestergold: hi judy|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s6|nt|marlowepi: np, just kidding|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sK|pg||
nt|lestergold: three spades and a bullet for n/s thats all|pg||
pc|c5|nt|raghavan: Judy, cindy|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d5|nt|cindy:  hi all|pg||
pc|d8|nt|marlowepi: some specs may question the TO double, but NS probably play the style of "equal level conversion", which means that S can double and then bid diamonds without showing a great hand|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|h9|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|s9|pc|h5|pc|c4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|d3|pc|c8|pg||
mc|9|nt|Walddk5: Welcome to Peg Kaplan|pg||
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qx|o77|st||md|3S8HQT95DQT3CKT964,SHA62DAKJ987642C2,SAK543HKJ83D5CJ73,SQJT9762H74DCAQ85|sv|b|nt|mariner1: wild hand here|pg||
mb|1S|nt|mariner1: Void opposite Void|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|othered1: likely will wind up in 5@D-1|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: 5@D was easy to get to|pg||
nt|othered1: perhaps doubled|pg||
nt|raghavan: Ed what a prediction|pg||
nt|mariner1: well he might go off 2 trying to make it|pg||
nt|mariner1: S has no call here, too many losers....... maybe a DBL is all|pg||
nt|othered1: Ok, I'll defer to those who th ink west will take the club finesse for -2|pg||
nt|mariner1: Closed Room in same auction and sitting as well|pg||
nt|mariner1: was not dbl'd in Closed Room|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: It's likely to be late in the day that west will be faced with @C finesse decision|pg||
pc|sK|nt|mariner1: S might be worried a dbl was cause a finesse,,,,, he does not know E has no @D|pg||
nt|mariner1: would cause|pg||
nt|mariner1: finesse to make is a very real option|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|dT|pg||
nt|raghavan: He may think making Vul game is far better than going 1 more down - so he will finesse|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|hT|nt|raghavan: perforce has to play H|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d8|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h3|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|h7|nt|mariner1: kibbers suggesting he should have ducked an early @H to set up a squeeze|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c7|nt|xenya: N will pitch 2 clubs and a @H -- in that order|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d4|pc|cJ|pc|sQ|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|hJ|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|xenya: -1 now|pg||
nt|mariner1: so no hook on the show out|pg||
mc|10|nt|othered1: That's where we came in :)|pg||
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qx|c77|st||md|3S8HQT95DQT3CKT964,SHA62DAKJ987642C2,SAK543HKJ83D5CJ73,SQJT9762H74DCAQ85|sv|b|nt|onebid: not scheduled|pg||
nt|raghavan: Intesting hans are up Mike?|pg||
nt|lestergold: basically a 50% non vul slam|pg||
nt|pbundy: Hi Roland - specs|pg||
nt|pbundy: I just came from a photographic journey to white plains - MUCH excitement there, as you can imagine|pg||
mb|1S|nt|onebid: Hi everyone - I'll stay until another commentator shows up|pg||
nt|lestergold: welcome Judy|pg||
nt|onebid: Hi Cindy, Dr. R|pg||
nt|raghavan: Ok Judy |pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: a swing possibility then|pg||
nt|cindy:  im sure they have a way to show both majors   4@d perhaps|pg||
nt|dcbutler: hi peg|pg||
nt|lestergold: Hi Peg|pg||
nt|pbundy: Hi Dave - Hi Mike|pg||
nt|lestergold: roland slam here|pg||
mb|1N!|nt|lestergold: 3dims does the job|pg||
nt|cindy:  many use 3@d to ask for a @d stopper|pg||
nt|onebid: maybe 4@D a bit of a push at equal non-vul?|pg||
nt|cindy:  with a long club suit|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|nt|cindy:  pretty good hand|pg||
nt|onebid: I do Cindy|pg||
mb|p|nt|pbundy: this is how i generally handle my nine card suits|pg||
nt|lestergold: only needs club finesse and dim q dropping too good for roland but too bad for these nasty cards|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: every reason to make a try |pg||
nt|lestergold: even game is off|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|raghavan: good forward going|pg||
nt|lestergold: hi Cindy|pg||
nt|cindy:  hi :)|pg||
nt|lestergold: now ahe know a finesse at worst |pg||
pc|s8|nt|cindy:  on their way|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|lestergold: yep hes got lucky!|pg||
nt|onebid: or could have had K@S and no aces|pg||
nt|cindy:  im a big believer in leading aces vs small slams|pg||
nt|lestergold: the 4d bid was pointless by west|pg||
nt|onebid: agree Mike|pg||
nt|lestergold: only helped them on their way|pg||
nt|cindy:  spec points out they heard that yesterday :-)|pg||
nt|onebid: I meant K trump|pg||
nt|cindy:  would think W wouldnt bid 4@d unless he wanted the lead|pg||
nt|raghavan: Only way is to finesse S - It succeeds here|pg||
pc|s6|nt|raghavan: E wants a Spade lead ? Mike|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|nt|cindy:  at least they have the fear factor in their favor|pg||
nt|lestergold: cant blame west for bnidding it and will probabbly be a push |pg||
pc|s5|nt|onebid: preempts exist to make it harder for opponents. Most of the time the damage is done - why get involved. Might push them to slam|pg||
pc|s7|nt|marlowepi: W might have ruffed with a higher heart|pg||
nt|lestergold: 4d wa never gonna take up much spade only encourages them |pg||
pc|dT|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|lestergold: i handle em as follows i count themand find that there were only eight!|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s9|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h2|nt|lestergold: space|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h4|pg||
nt|lestergold: frankly 5d is of course enormous in the 70% plus reion|pg||
pc|h5|nt|lestergold: not spade|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg||
nt|pbundy: yes; not a bad buy in dummy|pg||
pc|d9|nt|lestergold: curse my fingers|pg||
nt|pbundy: and - even with the diamonds not breaking, still on a club hook|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|nt|lestergold: well if he didnt buy something in dummy then north south would have almost certainly had a game|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|d7|nt|cindy:  well if N was going to jump to 4@h, 4@d prevents that|pg||
pc|s3|nt|onebid: mine too Mike:(|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d8|pc|c7|pc|c8|nt|pbundy: absolutely - tho dummy could have had more "stuff" and just have been wrong "stuff"|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c3|pc|sJ|pc|hT|pg||
pc|d4|pc|cJ|pc|sQ|nt|pbundy: KQJ KQJ in the blacks not a pleasant sight|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|pbundy: he knows he is doomed|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o78|st||md|4SK963HAKQ7DQT4CK4,SAT4HT6532D762CT2,SQ5HJ84DAK9CQ8753,SJ872H9DJ853CAJ96|sv|o|nt|raghavan: it is a push|pg||
nt|mariner1: 3N NS plays well|pg||
nt|xenya: was expected to be|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Cohen: I didn't know who had the 13th diamond|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Kit: I don't know if I would've guessed it anyway|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Kit: that's a big position|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|an|15-17|mb|p|nt|raghavan: Hi Dan |pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: note a @c from W would be an issue|pg||
pc|h2|nt|mariner1: not sure how W could devine a @c lead............|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg||
nt|othered1: This is just a question of overtricks pretty much on any lead by any EW hands.|pg||
nt|mariner1: win J@H , @c to K and @S to Q|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cK|nt|raghavan: He may play towards CK and then to SQ|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|xenya: besides, it wouldn't help much, would it, Rob?|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cT|nt|mariner1: stops any over tricks|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
nt|raghavan: here is the OT|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c78|st||md|4SK963HAKQ7DQT4CK4,SAT4HT6532D762CT2,SQ5HJ84DAK9CQ8753,SJ872H9DJ853CAJ96|sv|o|nt|debrose: Good evening|pg||
nt|raghavan: Swing  for Robinson|pg||
nt|lestergold: 10 imps|pg||
nt|lestergold: into the fat pot|pg||
nt|lestergold: getting fatter|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|marlowepi: welcome debbie|pg||
nt|cindy:  i know that feeling :-)|pg||
nt|raghavan: may be in 4S -push|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: hello welcome debbie |pg||
nt|debrose: Thank you.  |pg||
nt|lestergold: im already very fat|pg||
nt|lestergold: a very comfortable 3n for n/s here|pg||
mb|3N|nt|cindy:  hey debbie :)|pg||
nt|lestergold: so i know it well|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: 2 @C looks like majors |pg||
nt|marlowepi: i am the token male in this event|pg||
mb|p|nt|pbundy: yes - tho i would be slightly tempted to open this hand 1@D rather than 1NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: 4h i agree at this vul|pg||
pc|h3|nt|pbundy: some chance of missing a major suit game if partner has 7 or 8 and passes 1NT|pg||
nt|lestergold: even double dummy clubs lead cant dent it|pg||
nt|dcbutler: problem is that gets you to 2N opposite pard's 6 count with no major|pg||
nt|lestergold: however probably will only make it on the nose|pg||
nt|pbundy: that is true|pg||
pc|h4|nt|debrose: Presumably 2@C shows majors.  I  recommend using a defenses to 1N which include 2@C for majors, rather than 2@D or 2@H as so many do|pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: what's the advantage of using 2C for the majors?|pg||
nt|lestergold: 5h only costs 500|pg||
nt|lestergold: but west has some defence|pg||
nt|onebid: and a flat hand|pg||
nt|lestergold: 5s now  cold|pg||
nt|raghavan: CQ falls|pg||
pc|h9|nt|debrose: This allows advancer to bid 2@D with equal length in the majors to allow overcaller to bid the longer suit (or stronger with equal length)|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d4|nt|lestergold: or heart sets up for club discard in any case|pg||
nt|onebid: hard to see any other result|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|nt|lestergold: and another way of avoidin g a club loser!!|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|c3|nt|onebid: kibs can check movie to see how OR made 4|pg||
pc|c6|nt|marlowepi: of course, if opponents get wise to all that they may just stop opening 1NT :)|pg||
nt|debrose: I'll live with that:)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: when Michael gets in, play a spade.|pg||
nt|debrose: Perhaps a question I get asked more than any other from my bridge students is whether to open 1 of a major or 1N with a balanced hand of the right strength|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
nt|lestergold: 15-17 no trump south cannto upgrade the hand is maxi but nothying to upgrade and yes occasionally u miss a good major game but not often|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c5|nt|debrose: There are many factors to consider, but I usually open 1N, and I think you'll observe most top level players tend to do so|pg||
nt|debrose: Rosenberg's hand is perhaps the clearest type to open 1N with - the rebid problem over 1@H/1@S is just impossible|pg||
nt|debrose: With 17 pts. one might overbid 2N, and with 15 might underbid 1N.  So with hearts and 16 HCP there is the most reason to open 1N|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|nt|pbundy: i once had a partner who rarely opened 1NT with both (decent) majors.  particularly at matchpoints, he had the belief that missing major suit fits cost tricks|pg||
nt|lestergold: u open a diamond and ebid 2n and u often over reach urself|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|lestergold: it has its points Peg|pg||
nt|pbundy: well; in theory, if you open 1@D, some fair amount of the time partner will respond in a major|pg||
nt|lestergold: ur view|pg||
nt|pbundy: oh - not even "my" view ... "a" view|pg||
pc|s7|nt|debrose: Of course we'd rather have an stronger doubleton, but such is life.  These days I see a lot of experts opening 1N with a five card major AND two doubletons.   |pg||
nt|marlowepi: in my methods i don;t get dealt that hand. or else i just open 1NT whenever it looks like 1NT. somehow it seems to work out|pg||
nt|pbundy: the ten of diamonds and 9 of spades might sway me on this one|pg||
pc|h7|nt|marlowepi: if i get dealt the rpoblem hand, i say i only have 12 cards. chance of a redeal giving me similar hand is infinitesimal|pg||
nt|raghavan: curtains - made 5|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|debrose: I like methods which allow one to choose which hands to be dealt.  Can you send me your system notes please Marshall?|pg||
nt|lestergold: a virwe im sure shared yes|pg||
pc|h8|pc|s2|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hK|nt|cindy:  good def|pg||
nt|lestergold: plenty of room for controversy on these hands|pg||
pc|h6|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|pbundy: part of what makes it all so fascinating|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dT|nt|marlowepi: sure|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sJ|nt|lestergold: just like a glass of wine would sway me right now|pg||
pc|sK|mc|9|pg||
qx|o79|st||md|1SQ6HJ7DT9853CJ974,SAKT2HAK863DKJCT2,S974HDAQ742CAQ653,SJ853HQT9542D6CK8|sv|n|nt|mariner1: 4 @H best played in W|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|an|strong|mb|1N!|an|minors|nt|othered1: We'll get a big @C workout on the way to 4M, probably @H|pg||
nt|mariner1: if 4@S also best played in W|pg||
nt|mariner1: 5 of a minor good save|pg||
nt|mariner1: EW can make 5 of a majot though|pg||
mb|2H|nt|othered1: Luckily|pg||
nt|mariner1: 6 of a minor is also a save|pg||
nt|mariner1: EW in 4@H here in Closed Room|pg||
nt|othered1: and so is 7 of minor -- better than EW game, but phantom at that level.|pg||
mb|3D|nt|othered1: vulnerability keeps south low even with the 2-suit fit|pg||
nt|raghavan: very modest raise in D|pg||
nt|othered1: I had vul wrong, so save isn't good too  high|pg||
mb|4H|mb|5D|nt|raghavan: W will not go 5H fearing D KJ loss|pg||
nt|othered1: but east is still live here|pg||
mb|d!|an|inversion|nt|raghavan: he is very weak|pg||
nt|othered1: wonder what double, alerted, is'|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: do they invert pass and double in a forcing pass situation?|pg||
nt|mariner1: well 500 vs 450 is not a tragedy|pg||
nt|xenya: interesting to know, yes|pg||
nt|mariner1: that is if they went to 6|pg||
mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|raghavan: oh|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: just another push|pg||
nt|othered1: seems to have reassured Kit about the minor suit situation, somehow|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|d7|pg||
nt|othered1: that helps, but this was going to come down to @S and @C positions anyway|pg||
pc|h3|nt|xenya: on a good day 5@D might make, so perhaps it was W who was taking a save?|pg||
pc|c3|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|raghavan: routine hereafter - just gives 1D|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h2|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c79|st||md|1SQ6HJ7DT9853CJ974,SAKT2HAK863DKJCT2,S974HDAQ742CAQ653,SJ853HQT9542D6CK8|sv|n|nt|debrose: Glad to hear it.  I have a confession ........ but don't get too excited and call all your friends to come hear it|pg||
nt|raghavan: 1 IMP more to Robinson|pg||
nt|dcbutler: in the other semifinal, Fleisher leads Nickell by 76 |pg||
nt|lestergold: 4h for e/w an excellent contract|pg||
mb|p|nt|debrose: While generally I tend to be more interested in the cardplay than the bidding, I find I often can't think straight when Michael's in a close match|pg||
mb|1C!|nt|debrose: So I'll just see Cindy say good def and take her word for it :)|pg||
nt|cindy:  it was :)|pg||
nt|cindy:  this is a good 2@s bid too debbie :)|pg||
nt|lestergold: but 5d an excellent save even at this vulnerability|pg||
nt|pbundy: yes it is, mike|pg||
mb|1D|nt|lestergold: is 1n an upgrade?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: 14-16|pg||
nt|onebid: 14-16|pg||
nt|lestergold: 4h very nice contract for another push|pg||
nt|lestergold: i c|pg||
nt|raghavan: Mike will S now enter pre empt|pg||
nt|onebid: these are exactly the kind of boards Robinson wants|pg||
nt|lestergold: at this vul he might well|pg||
nt|lestergold: not much risk|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|lestergold: but also it wont stop e/w either|pg||
nt|lestergold: e/w can make 5 of course as spade and club finesses both right|pg||
nt|dcbutler: in the two USA2 round of 16 matches, Jacobs leads Cohler by 18 and Strull leads Oxdil by 2 after one of four segments |pg||
nt|pbundy: except for fleischer/nickell match, all pretty exciting|pg||
nt|lestergold: but i dont thin k south will get too excited with his q  two jacks and no singleton|pg||
nt|pbundy: and, needless to say, i would never count out the nickell team|pg||
nt|lestergold: i wouldnt count out any team who reached this semi final|pg||
nt|pbundy: all of us have seen that team overcome enormous deficits|pg||
mb|3D|nt|lestergold: has made it awkward tho|pg||
nt|onebid: 4@H needs some play|pg||
mb|4H|nt|lestergold: i think boyd will plead 5th ammendment and remain silent|pg||
nt|dcbutler: EW play a lot of transfers, here 2D shows hearts|pg||
nt|lestergold: no im wrong|pg||
mb|p|nt|raghavan: Yes Mike may prevent EW reaching Hgame|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|cindy:  a breather hand|pg||
nt|lestergold: the hearts unlucky but the club finesse onm so will only lose 2h an a spade in practice|pg||
nt|raghavan: oh still E bids|pg||
nt|lestergold: so an easy read for welland after all|pg||
nt|lestergold: ride|pg||
nt|lestergold: i meant to type|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|nt|pbundy: yes - and one of those hands where you cannot go wrong in the play|pg||
pc|dT|nt|lestergold: i dont think so|pg||
nt|lestergold: east too good cant isk missing vul game because opps are playing favourable vulnerability tactcis|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|onebid: unlikely S will lead spade - so easier for declarer|pg||
nt|pbundy: as some of my partners would say:  "bundy-proof"|pg||
nt|lestergold: no losing options of course |pg||
nt|dcbutler: hard to sac on this vulnerability|pg||
nt|lestergold: Peg u are too modest for a bridge player |pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c4|nt|lestergold: spade dont hurt i think declarer can always maintain control on this han|pg||
nt|onebid: yes, if careful|pg||
nt|onebid: check the amusing auction in Open|pg||
nt|lestergold: kh ah and club finesse and play clubs cant go off|pg||
nt|lestergold: in open south spyched i cee a heart they ignored it|pg||
nt|onebid: no, more likely conventional|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|pbundy: well; thank you but i see myself ALL the time!|pg||
nt|pbundy: tho i will say i saw an absolute world class player go down in 3nt yesterday with 9 tricks on top|pg||
nt|pbundy: even after the set, he didn't realize he had done it|pg||
mc|11|nt|pbundy: fatigue and concentration are no small parts of the game|pg||
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qx|o80|st||md|2S92HQ84D964CAJT72,SAT543H76DJCKQ943,SHAJT953DQ87532C5,SKQJ876HK2DAKTC86|sv|e|nt|raghavan: Robinson leading by 17 |pg||
nt|mariner1: 4@S EW here|pg||
nt|raghavan: now 5S |pg||
nt|mariner1: NS have a red suit save|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|raghavan: strong Club|pg||
nt|othered1: OK, Smith is now committed to bidding solo at almost any level|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S!|an|game forcing, 5+ !s|mb|2S|nt|raghavan: other major + a minor?|pg||
mb|4S|nt|othered1: North now knows EW are gettting to game.  Surprised he's playing this piannissimo|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|5D|nt|mariner1: EW in 5@S Closed Room|pg||
nt|xenya: perhaps he wasn't sure about EW's @S fit -- now he is |pg||
nt|othered1: Interesting that the big @C player at this table passed the west hand initially, while the more standard player in closed room opened 1@S.|pg||
mb|p!|an|inversion|nt|othered1: west has extras, so east could see 5@S not making on @C lead|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: on @C play, rather|pg||
mb|p|nt|raghavan: good for welland|pg||
nt|othered1: I guess west doubles because he would have stood a real double by east|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|xenya: S knows N's @Ds are not shorter than @Hs, probably longer, hence no correction to @Hs |pg||
pc|s4|pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg||
nt|othered1: so you propose he'd bid 4N with longer @H?|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|nt|xenya: yes|pg||
nt|mariner1: more imps to Welland and the match is tightening up|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pg||
nt|raghavan: Welland likely to get 8 IMP|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|mc|9|pg||
qx|c80|st||md|2S92HQ84D964CAJT72,SAT543H76DJCKQ943,SHAJT953DQ87532C5,SKQJ876HK2DAKTC86|sv|e|nt|lestergold: only part scores here|pg||
nt|raghavan: a part score deal|pg||
nt|lestergold: a my sons says all players are terrible except for the very top players who are merely bad|pg||
nt|pbundy: :)|pg||
nt|lestergold: the computer dealer is having a field day|pg||
nt|pbundy: indeed|pg||
mb|1S|nt|lestergold: goulash deals abounding|pg||
nt|pbundy: does everyone open 1@S with the west hand?|pg||
nt|lestergold: 5s east west cold n/s have save in hearts even 6h x shows a profit|pg||
mb|2S|nt|sybarra: looks like multi overcall this time, singe long suit or dont (my guess is multi) |pg||
nt|pbundy: i must admit that i prefer 1@C most of the time when 5/5 - but - |pg||
mb|3D!|nt|pbundy: this pair may have a special meaning for 1@C|pg||
nt|dcbutler: i"m a spade opener with 5-5|pg||
nt|pbundy: i wonder if 3@D is a cue bid INTO hearts for spades!?|pg||
nt|pbundy: i do like 3@H with the south hand.......  particularly at these colors|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Welcome to Peter Friedland|pg||
nt|pef: hi all|pg||
nt|pbundy: hi peter :)|pg||
nt|pef: hey peggy|pg||
mb|3H|mb|3S|nt|dcbutler: i like to play transfers over major suit michaels - for me 3D would show a forcing spade raise|pg||
mb|4H|nt|lestergold: 2s limit for n/s|pg||
nt|raghavan: Mike - the first 4 were games & slam|pg||
mb|4S|nt|cindy:  this is why i DONT like DONT :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: I dont think it is DONT |pg||
nt|marlowepi: one of the most fertile areas of bidding innovations over the last couple of decades has been in assigning a variety of artificial meanings to 2NT bids in various sequences. ...|pg||
nt|marlowepi: but--------|pg||
nt|sybarra: I think it is multi |pg||
nt|lestergold: yes big hands|pg||
nt|lestergold: hi Peter !!|pg||
mb|p|nt|cindy:  well whatever it is i DONT like it :)|pg||
nt|cindy:  unless it shows spades|pg||
nt|pbundy: i wonder if robinson has any fears of pushing them into a slam that would make....|pg||
mb|5H|nt|dcbutler: welcome Peter|pg||
mb|5S|nt|pef: hi all, pretty surprising that only this match is close--people keep waiting for the nickell team to make a run, but it hasn't happened yet--up to 80 imps now over there|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: mulit=single major |pg||
nt|cindy:  even then i DONT like it :)|pg||
nt|sybarra: which my guess that was |pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: will find out and let you know ASAP.|pg||
nt|marlowepi: the late great Grant Baze had a great website, on which he shared this bit of wisdom:|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: identical auction to the open room|pg||
nt|pef: bad news for ew is that clubs split 5-1, good news is that north doesn't have a spade to ruff with, very tempting for robinson to bid one more here|pg||
mb|p|nt|raghavan: Heart K is favourable so makes|pg||
nt|lestergold: and i  due course the same 4 losers and another pusk|pg||
nt|lestergold: well northcan ruff a club that is if he had a trump --- pity!!|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|lestergold: another no-brainer contract|pg||
nt|pbundy: i myself would be fearful that slam is makeable|pg||
pc|h8|nt|lestergold: makes on many layouts when HK is wronmg too|pg||
nt|lestergold: dm 3/3 or ruffing spade in dummy|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|lestergold: so are they thats why they didnt push to 6h!|pg||
nt|pef: well, he does have an ace, but I agree it's close.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d6|nt|cindy:  makes 4 now|pg||
nt|lestergold: now likely make 4|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|lestergold: the acs divided and the heart ace doesnt always stand in these situations|pg||
mc|11|nt|marlowepi: he recalled a panel at a Nationals with many experts fielding many questions, and he said he always remembered and came to cherish the answer given by the late great Bobby Goldman ...|pg||
nt|marlowepi: in answer to this question:|pg||
nt|lestergold: point is north does  not expect to beat 5s but he let them play it|pg||
nt|lestergold: to little uside in bidding on|pg||
nt|lestergold: massive downside|pg||
nt|pef: Not sure if I agree with that.  I think the upside potential is at least close to the downside potential.  give partner a doubleton diamond for example and that's 7 probably imps|pg||
nt|pbundy: to me, part of the problem is what DO you do if they now bid 6?  do you decide that they made an error, and simply defend?  or - have you now pushed them to a slam that will ...|pg||
nt|pbundy: succeed?|pg||
pg||
qx|o81|st||md|3SHQ843DQ876CKJ842,SQT9652HAKJTD5CT6,S87H652DKJT432C75,SAKJ43H97DA9CAQ93|sv|o|nt|mariner1: 6@S here|pg||
nt|raghavan: inching up - Welland|pg||
nt|xenya: EW can't cpmplain about their @S fits|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|an|strong|mb|p|mb|1S|an|game forcing, 5+ !s|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|control asking|nt|xenya: also about a lack of strong openers|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D!|an|three controls|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|spade asking|mb|p|nt|mariner1: controls as A = 2 an K=1.......... guess they do not use Q of trumps|pg||
nt|mariner1: or maybe the queen is in this ask|pg||
nt|raghavan: w  will show 1st and 2nd Rd control |pg||
mb|3D!|an|6 spades, 1/3 top honors|nt|mariner1: yes Q is in in the 2@H ask|pg||
nt|raghavan: is it 1 honor to six|pg||
nt|xenya: NS have been somewhat quiet here so far...|pg||
nt|mariner1: has to be careful not to talk himself into 7 now|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: looks like a regular 012123 TAB|pg||
nt|mariner1: Closed Room is in 7@S here!|pg||
nt|raghavan: No 0 1 1 2 2 5|pg||
nt|raghavan: 0 1 1 2 2 4|pg||
nt|raghavan: 0 1 1 2 2 3|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: well, the 4th step must be a 1|pg||
nt|mariner1: could be a big swing here for Robinson|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S!|an|asks in diamonds|nt|mariner1: btw, when 6 makes it only takes a 41% or so chance to shoot for 7|pg||
nt|mariner1: so the 50 here was not horrible|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: trumps asks in the most expensive other suit|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D!|an|2nd round control|nt|othered1: Nice methods and explanations.  Interesting to see the actions they take as information develops.|pg||
nt|mariner1: well we are assuming everything is understood by both as we think|pg||
nt|mariner1: sure looks well done|pg||
nt|othered1: In closed room NS got into the auction and bid up to 4@D|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H!|an|reasked|mb|p|mb|4S!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|xenya: which NS here should have done also, i think|pg||
nt|othered1: either NS in closed room could have gotten in, and it's unusual in today's styles to let opponents have a free run at a big @C auction|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: 4@s showed a singleton diamond|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Stewart thought he was asking in clubs with 4@h|pg||
nt|othered1: And here's the real reason not to bid 7 -- you're giving long odds (11-3?) if they're only in game in the other room|pg||
pc|dJ|mc|12|pg||
qx|c81|st||md|3SHQ843DQ876CKJ842,SQT9652HAKJTD5CT6,S87H652DKJT432C75,SAKJ43H97DA9CAQ93|sv|o|nt|marlowepi: have to go now, have fun everybody|pg||
nt|raghavan: Push|pg||
nt|pef: while it's not impossible you might push them to 6s, I think it's likely that if that pair was going to bid 6 they would have done so already|pg||
mb|p|nt|cindy:  skinny 3N at other table|pg||
nt|lestergold: might be a swing here|pg||
nt|lestergold: playersd do not like doing this because if they get it wrong its so expensive that is why robinson preferred to let sleeping dogs lie|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|pef: well, we'll have to ask him--I bet at least as much of his reasoning was he thought there was a real chance they'd beat 5s, not that he thought 6s was making|pg||
nt|lestergold: not always the case in thesde haviliy competitiv auctions|pg||
nt|pbundy: i have a strong suspicion that east started with @S :)|pg||
nt|lestergold: but north is dealer\??|pg||
nt|pef: you don't think north has a mandatory 1s psych in first seat?|pg||
nt|pbundy: call me crazy - but - |pg||
mb|2C!|nt|lestergold: north's weak nt hand and south's hand are not always bid to a game|pg||
nt|pef: another 11 card spade fit for e/w|pg||
nt|lestergold: this isnt the british juniors|pg||
nt|dcbutler: might have worked pretty well on this hand|pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: oops|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p!|nt|debrose: It is pretty Standard to play this particular negative double as exactly 4-4 in the majors.  |pg||
nt|pbundy: that is quite true, david :)|pg||
nt|pef: so a grand slam on a (failing) club finesse|pg||
nt|lestergold: 2d?? if im coming in give it at least the 3d|pg||
nt|pbundy: i wonder why robinson didn't begin with some   of diamonds?|pg||
nt|pbundy: i guess he preferred the spade psych :) :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: cute|pg||
nt|pef: would have led to an interesting auction|pg||
nt|lestergold: well 6s is against the wall and roland is in 7|pg||
nt|pef: many years ago, when psyching was much more prevalent in high level bridge, people had to develop methods to deal with frequent psychs|pg||
nt|pbundy: a spec informs me that 2@D was precluded by the dreaded flannery|pg||
nt|pef: in fact, we're probably all old enough to remember when the convention card had a place to check "frequent psychs"|pg||
nt|pbundy: that is why 3@D was invented|pg||
nt|pbundy: tho at these colors, that's a little much|pg||
mb|4D|nt|debrose: Occasionally it might be 4-5 with a weak hand.  So bidding a major in this auction most definitely does not promise 5|pg||
nt|lestergold: 3n probably coming now|pg||
nt|lestergold: altho south is a passed hand|pg||
nt|raghavan: If bid makes with good D and SAQ and K of other suit|pg||
nt|cindy:  N knows S must have very good @ds to come in red|pg||
nt|pef: a little?|pg||
nt|pbundy: part of why i spurn flannery.  |pg||
mb|4S|nt|lestergold: auction far from over|pg||
nt|pef: you mean so you can open 2d with 4 counts in first seat?|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: not a good contract|pg||
mb|4N|nt|debrose: Rosenberg is violating the "Law of total tricks" here, because of his honors in partner's first "suit"|pg||
nt|sybarra: in the other room as W opened 1 @D |pg||
nt|debrose: and his three little diamonds tell him partner has at most a doubleton and he has nothing wasted there|pg||
nt|lestergold: 10 imps on the way back toWelland|pg||
nt|cindy:  and a hand not suitable for a preempt   |pg||
nt|lestergold: very different auction in the open room|pg||
nt|lestergold: after this the gap not an unsurmountable 32 or so|pg||
nt|raghavan: Cindy is it unsuitable because of a Major in hand? |pg||
nt|cindy:  it would be for me but I'm told they play 2@d is a 3 suited hand|pg||
nt|cindy:  so 2@d was not an option|pg||
nt|raghavan: oh|pg||
nt|raghavan: Cindy it is only opening 2D it is 3 suiter -|pg||
nt|raghavan: not any overcall|pg||
nt|cindy:  opening 2@d|pg||
nt|raghavan: yes Opening 2D = 4414, etc almost like precision except the short suit can be anyone|pg||
nt|lestergold: i assume opening 2d would deny a 4 card major|pg||
nt|raghavan: need not be singleton D|pg||
nt|lestergold: south cant open that in classical weak 2 stule in front of partner|pg||
nt|raghavan: No their CC says 11-15, 4441, 5440 etc|pg||
nt|raghavan: any shotness|pg||
nt|lestergold: so a different reason but of course he didnt open 2d becasue it would have had a different meaning in their style|pg||
nt|raghavan: It becomes overcall|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: what is delay? technical/|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|nt|Vugraphu8: adam|pg||
mb|5D|nt|dcbutler: EW in the other room sold to 5DX on the previos hand, so Welland is within 9 imps|pg||
nt|pef: so much for the "master suit"|pg||
mb|p|mb|5H|nt|lestergold: im not sure i likem the old black here slam would be cold if west's 8 points outside spades were kq of hearts and K of clubs|pg||
mb|p|mb|6C|nt|pef: now trying for a grand slam, asking aobut the k of clubs|pg||
nt|lestergold: what east should have done is make a bid that tells partner he is looking for a cue in hearts or is missing something that he needs from him|pg||
nt|lestergold: roland is egging him on!!|pg||
mb|p|nt|debrose: He would not expect his decision to work well when partner had xxx clubs, but that is very much against the odds|pg||
nt|debrose:  perhaps Gary can get out for down one when 3@D was making anyway|pg||
mb|7S|nt|lestergold: and west now will decline holding xx club|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pef: excellent prediction :)|pg||
nt|dcbutler: probably 5C showed 1 keycard, 5D asked for the Q of trumps, 5H showed it plus the K of hearts|pg||
nt|pef: robinson margin likey now to increase by the whims of fate|pg||
nt|pbundy: note that boyd wisely didn't X clubs to let them know any potential hooks were losing|pg||
nt|pbundy: i would highly doubt they'd be in the grand then|pg||
nt|lestergold: well commentator's curse|pg||
nt|lestergold: but he will regret that he didn listen to my comments!!!!|pg||
nt|pef: something must have come off the wheels there--hard to understand welland 7s call|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sA|nt|pbundy: he could have tried 5@H if he still wanted to look|pg||
nt|pbundy: oops; i mean 6@H|pg||
nt|lestergold: bidding one more and not making at this level is er not good bridge|pg||
pc|d8|pc|s2|mc|12|pg||
qx|o82|st||md|4S874HAKQ84DQ2C652,SQ5H9632DT753CA93,SJT32HJ75DJ964CKT,SAK96HTDAK8CQJ874|sv|n|nt|raghavan: they stopped in 4S!!!|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: but 4@h is actually a reask clarifying the shortness or @dK|pg||
mb|1C!|nt|mariner1: Ed the trick is to assume 6 makes and you are now in hunt for 7,|pg||
mb|1H|nt|raghavan: Still Robinson gained 11 and now 20 up|pg||
mb|d|an|some values|nt|mariner1: but being in 4 there worked out|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C!|an|1rd force|mb|p|nt|xenya: my sympathy lies with Welland though -- on 81|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|mariner1: well more action here than in Closed Room,,,,, the 7 @S muffled them|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|c7|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|c9|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dA|nt|xenya: EW have found their best strain here, but i can't help feeling the 2@D in CR could have been be made |pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|mc|10|pg||
qx|c82|st||md|4S874HAKQ84DQ2C652,SQ5H9632DT753CA93,SJT32HJ75DJ964CKT,SAK96HTDAK8CQJ874|sv|n|nt|raghavan: made 3 - 10 IMP to Welland|pg||
nt|dcbutler: boyd was going to be on lead, so doubling 6C would have likely only helped the opponents|pg||
mb|1C!|nt|pef: The nickell fleisher match is not up to 103 imps!|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|sybarra: could have been beaten with cash of ace of @H  club to the ace and ruff |pg||
nt|pef: Sorry, "now" up to 103 imps|pg||
nt|pef: can anyone remember nickell ever conceding a match early?|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|nt|debrose: Experts would differ on lead style against 1N with this hand.  Most would lead a club against 3N (though which would be a question), but I think many would try a passive lead vs. ...|pg||
nt|debrose: 1N|pg||
nt|migry: Hi all|pg||
nt|pbundy: no.  and i predict they will not.|pg||
nt|pbundy: hi migry!|pg||
nt|lestergold: hi migry|pg||
nt|lestergold: join the fun|pg||
nt|dcbutler: no, and i doubt they do so here|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|nt|lestergold: join the party|pg||
nt|pbundy: we are fortunate to catch migry actually available for vugraph instead of competing herself|pg||
mb|p|nt|debrose: Of course there is no passive lead with this hand.  A diamond from Txx could easily blow something in that suit|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk6: Welcome to Bart Bramley|pg||
nt|migry: :) great to be here|pg||
pc|h5|nt|bbramley: hello everyone|pg||
nt|lestergold: another push likely|pg||
nt|migry: and in San Remo tomorrow:)|pg||
nt|pef: no 11 card spade fit here, so a quiet board|pg||
pc|hT|nt|sybarra: hello Bart welcome |pg||
nt|raghavan: Declarer has 8 tricks so a push|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|debrose: Hi Bart.  Just in time.  What would you lead against 1N with the North hand?  No peeking at the other hands:)|pg||
nt|debrose: How about you Sylvia?|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|nt|bbramley: i would have led like he did - good old 4th best - 2nd choice is a high club - last choice is any other suit|pg||
pc|h7|nt|debrose: Sorry, Shirley.  I told you I can't think when Michael's in a close match:(|pg||
nt|lestergold: pianissimo|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|sybarra: thats ok :)|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|dK|pc|h4|nt|bbramley: also a good @S shift - clarifies another suit for his partner|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|c4|nt|debrose: Yes good point.  Often when defending 1N in particular, knowing you will get in again, it is better to lead something through declarer while you have the chance rather than cashing ...|pg||
nt|debrose: out|pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: Neil should have continued spades before clearing the clubs.|pg||
nt|lestergold: maybe 9|pg||
nt|lestergold: now!!|pg||
pc|c2|nt|debrose: On some hands that has to be weighed against the potential benefit of forcing declarer to make another pitch|pg||
nt|raghavan: yes 1 IMP|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|lestergold: oh 1 imp yes but in the oppositie direction|pg||
nt|raghavan: yes|pg||
nt|lestergold: commentator's curse strikes with a vengeance|pg||
nt|lestergold: !!!lol|pg||
pc|s2|nt|sybarra: now to unblock |pg||
pc|s9|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s5|nt|lestergold: actually  back to the push |pg||
nt|lestergold: well im tird and there are enough of u so i will bid u all good day and take a break very enjoyable and ingteresting session so far|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sA|nt|lestergold: no back to the imp to welland|pg||
nt|lestergold: after all|pg||
nt|raghavan: oh|pg||
nt|lestergold: wll a mini comedy|pg||
nt|raghavan: same made 2|pg||
nt|lestergold: sorry made just 2|pg||
nt|raghavan: yes|pg||
nt|lestergold: south went to bed with qc|pg||
pc|s8|nt|dcbutler: thanks, Mike|pg||
pc|h9|pc|sT|pg||
nt|pbundy: thanks mike; bye|pg||
nt|lestergold: be back in a few hours not for the enxt the one after so c some ofu then|pg||
pc|s6|nt|lestergold: my pleasure |pg||
pc|dQ|pc|c9|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|c8|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|dcbutler: well defended here, declarer has no winning option|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o83|st||md|1SK95H9DT86543C654,STHKT842DQJCQJ872,S8763HJ76DA9CAT93,SAQJ42HAQ53DK72CK|sv|e|nt|xenya: another disaster for Welland|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|strong|nt|raghavan: East seems to be favoured with 16+|pg||
nt|mariner1: violation of Burn's Law here|pg||
nt|othered1: And it looks like confusion reigned in the closed room auction, beyond the shortage of aces|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/burn_law.htm  - Burn's Laws|pg||
mb|2D|mb|2H!|an|natural, gf|nt|mariner1: subtract the number of Aces held by the opponents from 8 and do not bid at that|pg||
nt|mariner1: level|pg||
mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|othered1: in NT?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: David Burn is a frequent commentator here on BBO|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c83|st||md|1SK95H9DT86543C654,STHKT842DQJCQJ872,S8763HJ76DA9CAT93,SAQJ42HAQ53DK72CK|sv|e|nt|sybarra: that looked like tired defense,  played to sooooooo many hands |pg||
nt|bbramley: very unlucky result for N/S in the Closed Room - 6@D is excellent|pg||
nt|lestergold: with west's strength south could hardly hope to play to beat 1!|pg||
nt|lestergold: 4s makeable on finding the dim|pg||
nt|pbundy: painful board on the grand; opponents were only in GAME|pg||
nt|pbundy: so - bidding for 13 instead of 12 was particularly costly.|pg||
nt|dcbutler: amazing how often that happens|pg||
nt|migry: it is often the case that a small slam is enough to win the board|pg||
nt|pbundy: of course - had the finesse worked, we all would have applauded their boldness and good fortune|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: and 4s not a bad contract here frankly|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: 2 @S=hts and a minor |pg||
nt|bbramley: although with the Michaels bid they could be certain that one (or both) of their suits would split poorly|pg||
nt|sybarra: yes and got the michaels bid in the other room also |pg||
mb|p|nt|bbramley: note that (in a vacuum) 6@D is superior to 6@S because with 3-2 @Ds it's cold without needing a @H trick|pg||
nt|lestergold: notautomatic to bid it but east has a very powerful hand|pg||
mb|1S|nt|bbramley: declarer can ruff a club in the north hand, draw trumps and run spades for 12 tricks|pg||
nt|sybarra: just a weather note from DC,  huge thunder and lightening storms AGAIN, |pg||
nt|sybarra: about the 6th day in a row |pg||
nt|bbramley: my flight home to dallas was supposed to go through DC, but they switched me to go through Chicago|pg||
nt|raghavan: 2c? by S|pg||
nt|Walddk5: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch the play in all vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 10, ...|pg||
nt|Walddk5: most don't. Open one browser window per table|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: oh yes can be beaten thx spe bhy club lead dim switch and ruff|pg||
nt|lestergold: 2c by south vulnerable ?|pg||
mb|1N|nt|lestergold: i dont think so!|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|debrose: This sort of double of an artificial two-suited bid normally just shows "values", typically without a fit for partner|pg||
nt|sybarra: not a bad spot, and N will be delighted to see ak of @C |pg||
nt|pef: yeah, pretty shocking the kit and fred stopped in 4s--they must consider that a sure loss|pg||
nt|pef: plus, it denied us a chance to declare a new leader|pg||
nt|pbundy: i sometimes wonder how different the game would be if the players always knew current scores|pg||
nt|pef: this board looks like a pretty dull 4h|pg||
nt|pbundy: i agree; kit and fred probably do think they suffered a loss on that one|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S!|nt|raghavan: see the effect of X of S -|pg||
nt|pbundy: nice to come back and find out you've actually picked up 11|pg||
nt|pef: 3s a splinter raise in support of hearts|pg||
nt|pbundy: an agreement that is important to remember!|pg||
nt|pef: and that came right after they settled for 5dx on the previous board, so they'll be very surprised a net gain on the two|pg||
nt|migry: they have many ways to support spades after the opening - so there is no danger here|pg||
nt|pef: he's a passed hand and presumably would have used drury with a spade limit raise or the like|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|pef: hmm|pg||
mb|p|mb|5H|nt|pef: not quite so dull, but luckily for them 5h will succeed|pg||
mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pef: some specs are thinking 4s was blackwood for hearts|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: well still off|pg||
nt|pef: and 5h was an erroneous response|pg||
nt|pef: welland may have thought 4s was a mistake and he was correcting|pg||
nt|pef: well at any rate, I fully take back my "dull 4 hearts" comment|pg||
nt|pbundy: and i reiterate; always good to be on very firm ground when you play exotic treatments|pg||
pc|c4|nt|cindy:  i dont see the need to bid at all with S hand|pg||
nt|lestergold: oh no!!!|pg||
nt|pef: willenken probably got it right and 4s was blackwood for hearts with welland showing 2 key cards|pg||
nt|pbundy: yes, that would be my guess, peter|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|nt|cindy:  especially when pd is passed hand|pg||
nt|raghavan: Now finding DQ is important|pg||
nt|lestergold: i agree with u Sindy its diabolical vulnerable|pg||
nt|lestergold: sorry  Cindy |pg||
nt|raghavan: They might not have gone to game|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|dA|nt|debrose: chambers was probably planning to support spades, but when partner bid NT that looked good to him|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d9|nt|pbundy: now it is critical for e/w to hunker down and not let emotion get the better of them|pg||
mc|11|nt|lestergold: the double will find the dim Q and im sure this will be another 10 imp to welland|pg||
nt|pbundy: very easy to do so with 2 boards like the grand and this one|pg||
nt|pef: yeah, roy welland needs to take a deep breath--that's two very costly misbids in a row|pg||
nt|migry: i'm sure they'll handle it well |pg||
nt|dcbutler: probably a good time for a time out|pg||
nt|pef: looks like they may be taking one|pg||
nt|migry: they should|pg||
nt|pbundy: chris had a fine hand; controls critical|pg||
nt|pbundy: i agree, migry|pg||
nt|pef: that's actually a good tip.  nothing prevents you from taking a short break (well except time pressure) when a couple bad things happen in a row|pg||
nt|pef: personally I think splintering on the west hand is an overbid with his side holding qj and qj--partner needs a huge hand--even more than he had--for slam to be good|pg||
nt|migry: not sure what the bids meant in the last one - but i don't think welland should have splintered anyway with the soft values in @c and @d|pg||
nt|pef: we seem to think simultanously alike, migry|pg||
nt|migry: :)|pg||
nt|migry: u type faster tho|pg||
nt|pbundy: migry; i agree.  |pg||
nt|pbundy: stuff on the outside very soft...|pg||
nt|pef: you mean that I type faster, peggy?|pg||
nt|pbundy: you may type faster than migry|pg||
nt|pbundy: but not faster than i do, i would guess|pg||
nt|migry: basically the hand is worth 3 points |pg||
nt|migry: i admit to using 2 fingers only :(|pg||
nt|pef: is even bidding 4h on that hand automatic--at mps you might bid only 3 with such soft values|pg||
pg||
qx|o84|st||md|2SAQJ65H8DKQJ74CA8,S42HKQJDT95CQT432,SK73HA7532D3C9765,ST98HT964DA862CKJ|sv|b|nt|othered1: And worth watching for --  dburn is his handle|pg||
nt|mariner1: 4@S NS looks right here|pg||
nt|othered1: I doubt EW think they're +29 on the last three boards|pg||
nt|xenya: Welland lost 29 imps on the last three boards|pg||
nt|othered1: In fact, they'd probably settle for even.|pg||
nt|raghavan: It is time NS got good cards|pg||
nt|mariner1: right Ed, they may think they lost of them missing the slam|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|drury|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|othered1: and the other two aren't clearly pick-ups.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|mariner1: same contract in Closed Room no surprise|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|s7|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|s6|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sQ|mc|11|pg||
qx|c84|st||md|2SAQJ65H8DKQJ74CA8,S42HKQJDT95CQT432,SK73HA7532D3C9765,ST98HT964DA862CKJ|sv|b|nt|sybarra: intersting hand |pg||
nt|sybarra: actually was surprised he did not convert to 4 @S but maybe that was slammish |pg||
nt|raghavan: another 10 IMP to Welland|pg||
nt|pbundy: really?  i am impressed with those two fingers!|pg||
nt|pbundy: i think with that shape 4@H is automatic|pg||
nt|pef: so out of nowhere the lead is now up to a significant 38 imps|pg||
nt|migry: the cat helps occasionally|pg||
mb|p|nt|pbundy: at least - ultimately getting there, one way or another|pg||
mb|p|nt|bbramley: well, lucky or not, this match just got a lot closer|pg||
mb|p|nt|pbundy: lol, M|pg||
nt|migry: still a long way to go|pg||
nt|pef: I guess to be fair we should point out this is a real marathon event|pg||
mb|1S|nt|lestergold: now a chan for more honey for welland if they find this excellent save|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: 4th from longest and strongest  or this will work also |pg||
nt|sybarra: I like this lead better|pg||
nt|pbundy: yes, many, many more boards in this match|pg||
mb|2S|nt|lestergold: 5h costing 3000 against the infrangible 5c|pg||
mb|p|nt|pef: in fact, the robinson team has been playing nonstop since saturday--they came out of the round robin|pg||
nt|pbundy: and, needless to say, irrespective of which team fails in this match - still possible that the "loser" will be USA  2|pg||
nt|pef: as did the fleisher team in the other match|pg||
nt|pef: this may be unique that two of the semi-finalists (and the two in the lead) came from the rr|pg||
nt|dcbutler: i think the round robin actually started last Friday|pg||
mb|4S|nt|bbramley: and another swing coming - N/S have the first 8 tricks here for 200 and 7 more imps for meltzer|pg||
nt|debrose: We've seen a lot of the Schermer-Chambers NT defense system here.  It probably does not include a way to show clubs at the 2 level|pg||
nt|debrose: I think many would bid 3@C at favorable|pg||
nt|sybarra: we know his 2 @C shows majors |pg||
nt|raghavan: S will support clubs now - is it not cindy|pg||
nt|lestergold: gonna be hard for west to come in now|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|lestergold: but its favourable vulnerability abd he has nice 2 suiter|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: pity one of them bid by south!|pg||
nt|lestergold: ht lead double but then theyll go to 5c|pg||
nt|pbundy: i think that 6@S is makeable here without a club lead........  am i correct?|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|bbramley: the modern style is to get in there, like pepsi did at the other table, but that jockeyed E/W into 3@D, which they made|pg||
nt|lestergold: not surely goona stand this|pg||
nt|pbundy: the hand that is short in spades is the hand that is shorter in diamonds|pg||
nt|pef: yes, you are right, started on friday, so seventh consecutive day of play|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|nt|raghavan: Mike - are a prophecy teller|pg||
nt|lestergold: not difficult looking at north's hand|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|debrose: Perhaps he was hoping to defend NT successfully with the opponents vulnerable - something good to consider when overcalling over 1N in general|pg||
nt|migry: 6 can be made|pg||
pc|d3|nt|pbundy: and - a spec kindly informs me that zia made 6 on a heart lead - after bidding it|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|nt|raghavan: I mean the X|pg||
nt|lestergold: weak pard with weak suit he believes west's double|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|bbramley: right|pg||
nt|sybarra: echo in @D coming for the lead most likely |pg||
nt|debrose: But with that hand I think most would act, thinking the opponents are likely to get to spades or diamonds anyway, or partner may bid|pg||
nt|bbramley: agree - that's one reason so many players strain to get in - it could easily be partscores making in both directions|pg||
pc|h4|nt|pef: what happens if he ducks the ace of diamonds|pg||
pc|s5|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg||
nt|debrose: or you may not have any defense to even 3N, e.g., partner has a stiff club|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|lestergold: in any case im due a right prediction just now after all the commentator curses striking!!|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|sybarra: high @h now?  |pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|raghavan: curtains|pg||
nt|pbundy: no diamond loser?|pg||
nt|dcbutler: don't think you can make it then|pg||
nt|migry: you can|pg||
nt|pbundy: ruff out the diamonds and give up a club?|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s7|nt|sybarra: ok low @S,  whatever |pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|d4|nt|debrose: This time the pass really paid off.  I know some players may wonder about opening 1N with such good majors and two suits unstopped|pg||
nt|pef: but don't you run short of trumps, then?|pg||
pc|d5|pc|sK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
nt|pef: he's only making 5 now|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o85|st||md|3SKJ2HK52DAKJ8CA43,SQT3HAQT863D62C95,S96HJ94DQT43CQ872,SA8754H7D975CKJT6|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|mariner1: not the hand to get too aggressive on it seems|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: NS are in 3N here Closed Room|pg||
nt|mariner1: and 3N has little chance|pg||
nt|othered1: if south doubles north may use 2N as scramble, thus mispositioning NT should 3N be viable|pg||
mb|d|nt|othered1: could be a reason not to say double|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: Guess they don't play that 3@D shows values|pg||
nt|mariner1: so assuming bizarre happens in Closed Room this should be imps to NS|pg||
nt|mariner1: though not many|pg||
pc|c9|nt|mariner1: assuming NOTHING bizarre I meant to say|pg||
nt|othered1: Freudian slip?|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg||
nt|mariner1: 3@D is also tough|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|raghavan: Here also NS may not make. 1C+4D+1S +? 1 spade ruff = will be still down|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h3|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s3|nt|raghavan: small Spade|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h9|nt|xenya: declarer is likely to get @S right, so just 1 down|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c85|st||md|3SKJ2HK52DAKJ8CA43,SQT3HAQT863D62C95,S96HJ94DQT43CQ872,SA8754H7D975CKJT6|sv|n|nt|debrose: As you will see over and over, modern players don't worry about that stuff.  If the hand is balanced and in the range almost all routinely open 1N|pg||
nt|raghavan: another push|pg||
nt|pef: lucky that you can draw one more round of trump and then pitch three clubs|pg||
nt|pbundy: no, i don't think so|pg||
mb|p|nt|raghavan: will this be 3NT by NS|pg||
mb|p|nt|debrose: five-card majors, six-card minors, I've even seen some six-card majors:) |pg||
nt|sybarra: this hand looks like it should make 2 @H |pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|bbramley: 2 unstopped minors is a mild defect compared to some of the NT openers that we've seen|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|sybarra: on the @S guess I think |pg||
mb|p|nt|bbramley: if neil makes this the match will be tied!|pg||
nt|lestergold: should be bid but making is another matter thye cards are spitting here|pg||
mb|p|nt|migry: which is the right @h to lead?|pg||
nt|pef: yeah, I guess you are right|pg||
pc|h3|nt|pbundy: on this auction, i might try the queen|pg||
nt|pef: none of them on this lie of the cards :)|pg||
nt|migry: :)|pg||
nt|pbundy: declarer more likely to have the king and hope partner can get in with another heart|pg||
nt|pbundy: 9 of clubs works super :)|pg||
nt|pef: yeah, and such an obvious lead on that auction :)|pg||
pc|h9|nt|bbramley: good guess on lead|pg||
nt|debrose: With a K-J guess and nothing else to go on it is often right to play the opening leader for the Ace|pg||
nt|bbramley: even with @S guess there's still a club problem|pg||
nt|debrose: Because he might have led the suit with the Queen, but would "never" from the Ace|pg||
nt|debrose: This is especially true when he is known to have an unattractive holding in the suit he actually did lead|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
nt|debrose: I've been asked what happened to Zia, etc.|pg||
nt|pef: hard to see how this can make|pg||
nt|pbundy: it is|pg||
nt|pef: in fact all roads seem to lead to down 2 even with the relatively favorable heart lead|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|debrose: I guess because those matches are two day matches, so they are playing the 4th of eight sets, the organizers decided it would be more excited to put the USA 2 bracket on tonight|pg||
nt|lestergold: 3n on min values normal auction but one finesse the dim is working but another 4 finesses are all wrong|pg||
nt|migry: looks like declerer sd try his luck in the @c suit|pg||
pc|d4|nt|cindy:  W has his doubling shoes on    good dbl|pg||
nt|lestergold: a tiger double! i lioke it as a money player i approve|pg||
nt|lestergold: of course lead directional|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|pbundy: yes, it seems like the straightforward way|pg||
nt|pef: the only alternative would be to play for both spades onside and then some sort of endplay|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|nt|lestergold: but he heard the limited auction so he knows there isno redouble on the way and he knows they are most unlikely to make|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
nt|pef: now east needs to return a low spade or the diamond to beat it 2|pg||
nt|pbundy: i'm afraid i must leave every one - the dentist calls :(|pg||
nt|pbundy: have fun - and see everyone later!|pg||
nt|pef: bye, peggy|pg||
nt|pbundy: thanks peter & migry and david :) :)|pg||
nt|dcbutler: thanks, Peg|pg||
nt|pef: would say have fun, also, but hard to believe that can be true at the dentist|pg||
nt|migry: bye :) we'll miss you|pg||
nt|pbundy: bye|pg||
nt|pef: willenken thinking "a heart, a heart, my kingdom for a heart"|pg||
nt|dcbutler: Nickell has the margin down to "only" 78|pg||
nt|migry: i think welland is thinking that more than willenken|pg||
pc|d9|nt|pef: at the other table, south opened only 1d (he does only have 19) and played in 3d down 1|pg||
nt|migry: good play - giving nothing away|pg||
nt|pef: so at this point welland probably going to gain 3 imps|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h8|pc|dT|pg||
pc|c2|nt|debrose: These players are playing the last set of an elimination match.  The loser is out of the event.  This is true of the other two vugraph matches as well|pg||
nt|bbramley: and we do have some very close matches here|pg||
nt|sybarra: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=27&Itemid=224|pg||
pc|c6|nt|debrose: The fact that the USA I bracket semi final matches are not especially close now could also be a factor, but given that they have another whole day of play anything could happen ...|pg||
nt|debrose: there|pg||
nt|lestergold: and that will be norh's only ray of sunshine that dim now its all horrid|pg||
nt|cindy:  n/s has like no tricks|pg||
nt|cindy:  on this def|pg||
nt|lestergold: no tricks unless then defencwe feeling generous|pg||
nt|cindy:  well 8 :)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
nt|lestergold: but these boys have a deficit to catch up so they wont be very generous today|pg||
nt|pef: if he had ducked the club to west at that point, he would have gone down only 1--it takes a bit of time to see why, but try it and wyou will|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|hT|nt|bbramley: a third @D would have been fatal - this will reduce declarer to the same @S guess, which he'll probably get wrong for the reasons debbie cited|pg||
nt|sybarra: does the @H lead from E indicate give away the @S position |pg||
pc|dQ|pc|s4|pg||
nt|debrose: Will he think Cohler might have balanced with the same hand with the spade Ace instead of Queen I wonder?|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s8|nt|bbramley: i don't think so - with @SQ10 the trump shift would be equally attractive|pg||
nt|cindy:  getting crunch time|pg||
nt|lestergold: east will know to give nothing away|pg||
nt|lestergold: keep off them clubs all he needs to do|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|cindy:  well how about another heart   W must have club A for the dbl|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|bbramley: yes, there are bidding inferences to consider as well|pg||
nt|lestergold: musnt play dim because he needs to leve pard with an exit card|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|sA|nt|raghavan: Double dummy running C 10 helps|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c3|nt|debrose: Since he knows Cohler has only three spades, a spade lead wouldn't have been an option with this hand.  Either of the other suits more attractive|pg||
nt|lestergold: oh hes setting up hts in any case so doesnt matter|pg||
nt|raghavan: not now- first|pg||
pc|h6|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h2|nt|lestergold: 2off 300 andanother 6 imps on the recovery run|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o86|st||md|4ST8HK94D9864CJ952,SKJ43HAJDAKT2CKQ8,SAQ976HT53D7CAT64,S52HQ8762DQJ53C73|sv|e|nt|mariner1: 3N has play EW here|pg||
nt|raghavan: Viladirmir >  bd 75What contract in Closed R?|pg||
nt|raghavan: Bd 85|pg||
nt|othered1: won't lead of either black suit beat it, as cards lie?|pg||
nt|mariner1: if W is in 3N then a @c out by N could beat it but defense is double dummy|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: right, @S lead comes up short|pg||
mb|1C!|an|strong|mb|1S|nt|raghavan: Tx V|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|19-21|nt|mariner1: 1N here showing extras and the @S stoppers|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|an|invitational|mb|p|nt|mariner1: surprised no transfer in this situation....... maybe they play unusual meanings|pg||
nt|mariner1: does E pass here show 5 or less?|pg||
nt|raghavan: Their CC says precision style - so I think pass is less than 5|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|raghavan: 5-7 may be a X|pg||
nt|xenya: so 2@H was @Hs|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
nt|mariner1: EW are in 3N Closed Room and @S lead|pg||
nt|othered1: with a hopeless hand,presumably east had a sign-off beginning with 2@C|pg||
nt|xenya: can make it|pg||
nt|Vugraphu6: Kit knew Fred had a decent 0-5, but he decided that his 21 was pretty bad|pg||
nt|xenya: 3N i mean|pg||
nt|mariner1: yes 3N with @S lead has play|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg||
nt|xenya: in fact it almost certainly be made -- no other line but detting up @Hs suggests itself|pg||
nt|othered1: ruff and trump promotion for -1|pg||
nt|mariner1: one thing there are usually few ruffs in no trump :)|pg||
nt|xenya: *will be made   *setting|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s9|nt|mariner1: ruff Q and play @H|pg||
nt|mariner1: no point in ruffing low|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|nt|raghavan: Diamond ruff will come |pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|mariner1: he didn't hear me|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|hT|pc|d5|pg||
pc|cA|nt|mariner1: could have made this|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c86|st||md|4ST8HK94D9864CJ952,SKJ43HAJDAKT2CKQ8,SAQ976HT53D7CAT64,S52HQ8762DQJ53C73|sv|e|nt|debrose: So it made sense to get this right, and that Chambers did|pg||
nt|lestergold: 6c icy for n/s|pg||
nt|raghavan: 6 IMP to Welland|pg||
nt|lestergold: on the heart ace position of course|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|bbramley: operator, didn't he make it?  if he guessed @Ss right he had 8 tricks|pg||
nt|sybarra: I thought so also |pg||
nt|pef: now there a legitimate 2nt opener|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: 6n by north same |pg||
mb|3D!|nt|sybarra: Willie?|pg||
nt|debrose: my general point was with nothing else to go on play opener leader for Ace - here he ended up with quite a bit else to go on|pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: I asked and Neil claimed for down 1.|pg||
nt|sybarra: ugh,  tired puppies|pg||
nt|debrose: thx for clarifying that Willie.  I wonder what happened|pg||
mb|p|nt|raghavan: In open bid 3NT only|pg||
nt|lestergold: or by south for that matter|pg||
mb|3H|nt|pef: although they may land in 3nt with about the same result as the prior board|pg||
mb|p|nt|raghavan: so may be swing if they reach 6C|pg||
nt|lestergold: well as we have seen before 505 slam its red or black on the roulette table with no 0 or double zero|pg||
nt|raghavan: Now easy to reach 6C what do u Cindy & Mike say|pg||
nt|lestergold: well they have a massive combination of cards apart form the lonely heart K!|pg||
mb|3N|nt|debrose: If the play is as we saw this will get corrected eventually.  A misclaim can be costly, but can't force you to lose tricks you can't really lose|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphu8: I believe he lost 1 spade, 1 heart, 2diamonds and 1 club.|pg||
nt|debrose: With some partners I use this 2N response to show a "semi-positive" in clubs.  Perhaps that's how they play it here|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|debrose: But I wouldn't bid 3@C over that with the South hand, and it's a pretty obscure treatment, so I'm guessing they were showing controls?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: I don't believe I am allowed to say anything about it to the players.|pg||
nt|debrose: I don't know the rule, but I think you shouldn't say anything Willie.  It will get sorted out|pg||
nt|debrose: Lots of guesses about the system from specs:)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: thxs for the information.|pg||
nt|sybarra: 3 clubs for all we know was stayman|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s2|nt|bbramley: my guess is 2NT=3 controls, 3@C=stayman|pg||
nt|raghavan: Adam pushing|pg||
nt|lestergold: 4s cant be support or spades here must be a cue cos clubs already agreeed|pg||
nt|lestergold: well theyv eha da fe poor results and know they cannot sit on thei laurels with the lead slippin away|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|lestergold: 4n sign off/|pg||
nt|pef: sorry, I guess with hearts 33 and a non club lead 3nt fetches, doesn't it|pg||
nt|dcbutler: yes - doesn't someone have a theory that it's better to lead from your 4 card suit than your 5 carder?|pg||
nt|pef: although it is possible that after aj of hearts holding, he may use the two diamond entries to lead toward the kq of clubs, taking 2h, 2c, 4d, and 1 spade|pg||
nt|migry: no:) there is a theory that it's better to lead from a 3 card suit than from a 4 vard suit|pg||
nt|pef: he'll have to judge on the play of the hearts whether they are splitting|pg||
pc|dA|nt|debrose: I just noticed Chambers doesn't have a standard 2@C opening.  Sorry, if I'd realized that I wouldn't have even tried to guess. |pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|nt|debrose: the responses|pg||
nt|debrose: Willie, just curious.  Are they writing explanations to things or doing the whisper thing?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: They are writing and I cannot see it.|pg||
nt|sybarra: they write in little light pencil scratchings |pg||
nt|Walddk6: They should provide operators with binoculars I think|pg||
nt|debrose: Thanks. |pg||
nt|sybarra: some players hand opertor the sheets of paper,  many do not |pg||
nt|sybarra: *operator|pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: Even if I receive the paper, i cannot read the writing in many cases.|pg||
nt|sybarra: been there done that |pg||
nt|debrose: So here we see yet another fourth best from longest and strongest opening lead.  And again it's the best lead|pg||
nt|sybarra: as I said,  little scratchings |pg||
nt|debrose: Got it willie, don't even bother trying with Michael's|pg||
nt|migry: they r in 2@h in the other room so if he makes it that will be a much needed pick up|pg||
nt|pef: just on the percentages the ace of clubs onside is more likely, but he may get some clues.  robinson/boyd will try to avoid giving them|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|lestergold: no blackwood|pg||
nt|pef: so at this level, this is quite an interesting contract to play|pg||
nt|migry: 2@h went down |pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: south has CJ pen card from last trick|pg||
nt|pef: ah, even more to think about|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|nt|lestergold: it was i think 4n to play still no harm done but no swing either|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|pg||
nt|lestergold: well 1 or 2 imps only rathe rthan a signioficant swing|pg||
nt|raghavan: oh|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
nt|lestergold: 70 points less for playing in clubs so 2 imps|pg||
nt|migry: now he knows |pg||
nt|migry: he needs the hearts|pg||
nt|migry: so he'll make it|pg||
nt|pef: good play by roy welland.  much harder to duck the j of hearts, now he can try both if he wanted to|pg||
nt|pef: of course opps just tried the clubs for him so he needs hearts to split|pg||
nt|pef: and since they do, an 11 imp gain for welland and the match back to 24 imps|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dT|pc|hT|mc|10|nt|debrose: Cohler knows they can cash the spade tricks later, so while he probably doesn't see any hope of setting the contract, may as well play something else.  |pg||
pg||
qx|o87|st||md|1ST76HJ65DKT6CA986,S85H732DAQJ975CT5,SAK9432HAQ4D8CQJ4,SQJHKT98D432CK732|sv|b|nt|mariner1: 5 easy @S make, so 4 will be very easy|pg||
nt|raghavan: for a change game to NS|pg||
nt|mariner1: QJ @S xx and 10@C dropping assures 5 if they play for them|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D!|an|2!s is a better 3!d bid|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|othered1: with @DK not worth a whole lot, do you bid as south?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|raghavan: S Devalued his DK|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg||
nt|othered1: preempt will likely let declarer eschew restrickted choice in trumps, not that he had a conventient entry to dummy anyway|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sQ|nt|othered1: But if west doesn't open, it gies 11S-2@S-Game|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c87|st||md|1ST76HJ65DKT6CA986,S85H732DAQJ975CT5,SAK9432HAQ4D8CQJ4,SQJHKT98D432CK732|sv|b|nt|raghavan: Mike S would not be bidding so much with 1A, also South could have bid 6C over 4NT |pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: with that layout im not sure if 6c makes|pg||
mb|3D|nt|pef: now that's an aggressive 3d preempt vul.|pg||
mb|3S|nt|debrose: It's normal to reach 3N here, which makes on a couple of finesses|pg||
nt|migry: X or 3@s?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|lestergold: anothyer 3n with spitting cards|pg||
mb|p|pc|d3|nt|lestergold: if n/s stay out of it they may gain some imps|pg||
nt|dcbutler: same auction in the other room|pg||
nt|pef: I'm quite surprised boyd passed 3 vul. at imps|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|nt|lestergold: and so far they are not even in the auction|pg||
nt|raghavan: opp are bidding till now|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|pef: would you guys pass on the south hand in these conditions?|pg||
nt|migry: south did the right thing to pass - he is "expected" to hold 7-8 points and this is what he has including the useless K@d |pg||
nt|pef: yes the k of diamonds may be worthless, but |pg||
pc|h3|nt|raghavan: good|pg||
nt|cindy:  i would open the N hand|pg||
nt|lestergold: but here comes the n/scaval;ry charge|pg||
pc|h4|nt|sybarra: operator tired also |pg||
nt|migry: i wd always pass with the south hand - probably double with North|pg||
pc|hK|nt|sybarra: missing a pass ? |pg||
nt|lestergold: north hand has merits as an opener but not mandatory Cindy!|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|debrose: 2@S here should just mean nothing else to bid.  Either no spade stopper, or in this case not eager to play NT from your side|pg||
nt|bbramley: the @S lead will scare declarer, but he doesn't have much choice about how to play|pg||
nt|cindy:  no :)|pg||
nt|lestergold: well a few imps back |pg||
nt|lestergold: e/w 's spirited auction has kept them out of a no play game|pg||
nt|cindy:  thats what happened at other table...N opened|pg||
nt|dcbutler: i agree - move the king to another suit, and bidding game seems auto red at imps|pg||
pc|d2|nt|debrose: Although North seems to think South showed something in spades.  What would he do with xxx, T9x, Kx, AKQxx?|pg||
nt|debrose: Maybe he figures they have noplace better to play opposite a hand like that, though 4@H seems possible|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sA|nt|lestergold: well there is the reason why its not a mandatory opener|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|bbramley: i like to bid suits where i have something rather than suits where i don't - i might bid 3@C or 3@D|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|bbramley: anyway, north also has nothing better to bid|pg||
nt|debrose: North had no good bid, and I guess didn't want to distort his hand in some other way.  I don't think it's really playable to agree 2@S shows anything more than xxx in spades|pg||
nt|debrose: like Bart said:)|pg||
pc|sK|nt|bbramley: when you're already in a game force it's normal to assume that responder has some natural descriptive bid available|pg||
nt|raghavan: South with 14 could have said 2NT|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|debrose: Maybe.  I specifically have the agreement with regular partners that 4th suit in 2/1 auctions is assumed not to be anything much in that suit |pg||
nt|debrose: Taking two finesses into the six-card spade suit is not a pleasant prospect for declarer, but as Bart said not much choice.|pg||
nt|debrose: There's a little something in the fact that Rosenberg didn't overcall - but could easily have one king|pg||
nt|debrose: I'm asked about the 2@H rebid, and it's noted that the rebid was 2@D in the other room.  There are lots of ways to treat opener's rebid in this auction - too complicated to get ...|pg||
nt|debrose: into now I think|pg||
nt|debrose: Though if Cohler, who certainly has no attractive discard, takes long enough perhaps we could write a book on the subject |pg||
nt|bbramley: more significant is that the tank strongly suggests that cohler has both red kings|pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: Cohler is thinking for a long time now. Schermer might draw some logical conclusions from this long wait.|pg||
pc|sT|nt|lestergold: sometimes partner does not have a fit with one of ur black suits and he adds up his points and insists onm game|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|bbramley: same start in other room|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
nt|debrose: Lots of comments/complaints from specs.  Cohler is generally a fast player and people should realize how different it is for the players from us looking at all the hands|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o88|st||md|2S87HJ98DJ53CQJ752,SKJ654H642D94CA64,SA3HT75DKQ86CKT83,SQT92HAKQ3DAT72C9|sv|o|nt|mariner1: well they did make 5 easy :(|pg||
nt|othered1: if north opens @C eas will double.  over 1@D may not act|pg||
nt|mariner1: @S lead here and slam makes|pg||
nt|othered1: Assuming west doesn't open with, say, multi|pg||
nt|mariner1: or @H|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|xenya: i think S was worth a raise there -- vulnerable with a fit and an Ace -- hope i'm not resulting|pg||
nt|mariner1: or @c even|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|mariner1: so it takes a @D lead to beat 6@S|pg||
nt|othered1: 11D didn't put east off from doubling andhe got a favorable response.  Now game quickly|pg||
mb|4S|nt|mariner1: not that they should be in 6@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|nt|mariner1: well N bid @D , but leads @H|pg||
nt|othered1: Might not lead @D here, but against 6 considerations are very different|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg||
nt|mariner1: 3N made on 86 and imps to Welland|pg||
nt|raghavan: Rob D loser evaporated makes 6 I think -|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|nt|mariner1: Robinson might get them back in 87|pg||
pc|s2|pc|c5|pg||
nt|mariner1: yes takes @D lead to stop 6|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s8|nt|mariner1: well Closed Room also in only 3@S on 87|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c88|st||md|2S87HJ98DJ53CQJ752,SKJ654H642D94CA64,SA3HT75DKQ86CKT83,SQT92HAKQ3DAT72C9|sv|o|nt|barnets: sorry priv|pg||
nt|raghavan: 4 IMP to Ribinson|pg||
mb|p|nt|debrose: Ok, good question Barnet.  I believe Bart said he could have done it after the @HK came up on the second round, while he had a heart entry to hand|pg||
mb|1D|nt|sybarra: this time we jump in with 3 @C |pg||
nt|sybarra: not that North likes it |pg||
mb|1H|nt|pef: not a real slam here unless you hugely overbid and can bar a diamond lead :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|lestergold: no fireworks here|pg||
mb|p|nt|bbramley: we have very bad weather imminent - could lose power|pg||
mb|p|pc|dK|nt|lestergold: mind you if a spade is returnedwest can make 11 tricks|pg||
nt|pef: k of diamonds lead will gain an imp for his side|pg||
pc|dA|nt|pef: probably|pg||
pc|d5|nt|dcbutler: what's your preference over 1D with the east hand?|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|pef: good question|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
nt|pef: double seems terrible|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|lestergold: safely without risking contracdt|pg||
pc|d2|nt|pef: so that leaves 1h 1nt and pass|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|pg||
nt|pef: stewart did double in the closed room, by the way|pg||
pc|cK|nt|raghavan: yes swing in a different way|pg||
pc|c9|nt|lestergold: well cant now cant get at the long heart|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s8|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o89|st||md|3SJ83HQJ82DKC75432,SAT976HAK75D72CA8,SQ54H96DAT953CQJ6,SK2HT43DQJ864CKT9|sv|e|nt|xenya: on the same auction?|pg||
nt|mariner1: 3@D  3@S swish|pg||
nt|othered1: Save that hand for your |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: "Power of Preempts" article, even at this level of play|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|an|strong|nt|Vugraphu6: another Woolsey/Stewart upgrade|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D!|an|natural, gf|nt|mariner1: EW make 3N here if they get there|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|xenya: they can't help it|pg||
nt|mariner1: well make is not 100% either|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: would have played better MAYBE in W|pg||
nt|mariner1: not sure how you get W to bid it|pg||
nt|mariner1: Billy leads a @c and this has an issue|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|mariner1: J@H makes this a little easier|pg||
nt|mariner1: this is the penultimate board this session............'|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h6|nt|raghavan: If ducked what will S play|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|mariner1: next is scheduled for 87 minutes from now|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php - BBO Vugraph Schedule (set|pg||
nt|mariner1: up to show times for your area)|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USBC2009/Bracket.php?stage=SemiFinals -  scores|pg||
nt|mariner1: when updated|pg||
nt|raghavan: may play C|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USBCUSA2/Bracket.php?stage=Roundof16  - for|pg||
nt|mariner1: leaderboard USA2|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=590&Itemid=262   -|pg||
nt|mariner1: Bulletins|pg||
nt|xenya: actually the lead sets up a @H trick for declarer -- if he reads it correctly -- but it's not over yet|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
nt|raghavan: You want declarer to play H10 pinning 9|pg||
nt|xenya: right|pg||
nt|mariner1: 2 more sessions to play here so there is plenty of time|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
pc|s6|nt|raghavan: play a D|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
nt|mariner1: and a @H|pg||
nt|xenya: looks like a @C lead would have beaten it |pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|d3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|d4|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c89|st||md|3SJ83HQJ82DKC75432,SAT976HAK75D72CA8,SQ54H96DAT953CQJ6,SK2HT43DQJ864CKT9|sv|e|nt|sybarra: 2 bds left |pg||
nt|sybarra: and this looks like a push |pg||
nt|lestergold: well no excitement likley here n/s will bid the infrangible 3N|pg||
nt|dcbutler: right. i like willenken's choice|pg||
nt|pef: assuming 1d isn't one of those any hand with zero or more diamond type bids, I think I might bid 1nt, but 1h is a very close second choice for me|pg||
nt|pef: migry?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|debrose: Good result coming for Meltzer from the other table on the last board.  I guess I've gotta get up and pace now|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: can they make 6 @S here|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|debrose: And I was just reminded, by my own brother of all people, that Cohler may actually be up only 7|pg||
nt|sybarra: getting lots of yeses and some with no's on a club lead |pg||
mb|p|nt|debrose: On board 55 it appeared to us that Chambers made 2@H when he claimed down 1.  That may get corrected|pg||
mb|p|nt|pef: wow, that's a really aggressive 2nt call by welland|pg||
mb|p|pc|c5|nt|Vugraphu8: I hope so.|pg||
nt|pef: he may get rewarded for it, though|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg||
nt|pef: this can be made, but he's going to have to do some good guessing|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg||
nt|pef: 3nt was reached and made in the open room|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg||
nt|pef: turns out now he's most likely down|pg||
nt|migry: on a @h lead|pg||
nt|pef: he had to win the first club|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s6|nt|debrose: Pacing no longer feels good enough after looking further at Board 60.  Meditation has been suggested, but that's never worked for me.  Hmm, what to do|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|sybarra: go to bar and wait for results?|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dA|nt|lestergold: push|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h2|pc|d7|pg||
nt|pef: now it should be easy to cash the ace of diamonds before exiting|pg||
nt|pef: which he did|pg||
pc|s4|mc|8|pg||
qx|o90|st||md|4SK952HAKJ6DK87C74,SQT86HQ52DA2C8532,SAJ4HT983DJ94CJT6,S73H74DQT653CAKQ9|sv|b|nt|mariner1: and last board now|pg||
nt|raghavan: Rob will you say our thanks to all|pg||
nt|mariner1: a big THANKS! to Dan Wolkowitz (USA), our superb operator, for doing an|pg||
nt|mariner1: excellent job!!!|pg||
nt|mariner1: Our appreciation to USBF, Jan Martel, and all the generous sponsors and|pg||
nt|mariner1: organizers for helping BBO bring us the vugraphs!|pg||
mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1H!|an|!s|nt|raghavan: YES GREAT DAN|pg||
nt|mariner1: and thanks for their wit and insight to my co-commentators Ed Shapiro and Migry|pg||
nt|mariner1: Zur Campanile (USA), P.S. Raghavan (India), Vicotr Silverstone (England), Vladimir|pg||
nt|mariner1: Ivanov (Russia),), and Roland Wald (Denmark).....I am Rob Brown (USA).......|pg||
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mb|p|mb|2C|nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg||
nt|raghavan: I endorse in full what Bob says|pg||
nt|mariner1: also, a round of applause for our hosts: Fred, Sheri, Uday, Bill Gates, Sharon|pg||
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mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|mariner1: special thanks to all the specs, those tips and comments really do help us a lot!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: so we end on a part score|pg||
nt|mariner1: in @c EW also in 3N, @c lead|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|nt|mariner1: and it will be off 1|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h3|nt|raghavan: Double dummy I count loser as 2C+1D+1H+ bonus = 5 losers only|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg||
nt|xenya: well gone|pg||
nt|xenya: *done|pg||
mc|8|nt|raghavan: Tx Dan. Vladirmir, Kibits, Roland and BBO|pg||
nt|othered1: Thanks, Dan, for the fine presentation.  Thanks everybody else and bye|pg||
nt|raghavan: As it is past 12 midnight in India I say GN |pg||
nt|xenya: but 12 imps to Robinson on 89 -- 3N down on a club lead|pg||
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qx|c90|st||md|4SK952HAKJ6DK87C74,SQT86HQ52DA2C8532,SAJ4HT983DJ94CJT6,S73H74DQT653CAKQ9|sv|b|nt|raghavan: ok push|pg||
nt|pef: back to 36 imps|pg||
nt|pef: last board of the set.|pg||
nt|pef: time to thank all the commentators, migry, dave, and peggy|pg||
mb|1D!|nt|migry: thx all|pg||
nt|pef: of course bbo and particularly Roland Wald for making this all possible|pg||
nt|dcbutler: thanks, everyone|pg||
nt|pef: and USBF and its highly skilled volunteers at the tables|pg||
mb|d|mb|1H!|nt|pef: we'll be back in about an hour and 15 minutes for the penultimate segment of the semi-finals|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|pef: 1h by welland there showed spades (of course)|pg||
mb|2H|nt|lestergold: 3n no prob here asa cards lie the moysian heart is ok too|pg||
mb|d!|mb|p|nt|debrose: Can I ask my 12 year old son to be bartender and pour me a drink Shirley, or must I get one myself?  not sure what's legal here in NY.|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: this is last bd.  |pg||
nt|raghavan: Ma land in3NT|pg||
nt|raghavan: may|pg||
nt|dcbutler: refusing to allow the opponents to play in their eight card fit at the two level|pg||
pc|hK|nt|lestergold: probably|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
nt|debrose: I don't think scoring mistake, if there was one, on 55 was made by operator.  he told us he heard neil say down one.  but fact remains if he made the tricks, that will be changed.|pg||
nt|sybarra: thx to Willie, our wonderful operator in White Plains |pg||
nt|debrose: sorry, folks, can't answer all the comments/questions.  appeciate the good wishes and advice thx|pg||
nt|raghavan: N cannot play S, D so may try Ca|pg||
nt|lestergold: ten tricks another close result maye ll|pg||
nt|lestergold: on spade switch|pg||
nt|migry: east denied 3 cards in spades |pg||
nt|migry: so 2@s now shows a doubleton|pg||
nt|pef: well that's an ugly contract|pg||
nt|migry: no idea why west had to bid at all with 6 points and no fit|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c2|nt|pef: 8 points, but who's counting|pg||
pc|cT|nt|sybarra: and thx to Debbie and Bart for joining the commentary and sharing your thoughts on these hands |pg||
nt|raghavan: upside qown signals|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|sybarra: thx also to the USBF, and especially to Jan Martel, for bringing this to BBO, |pg||
pc|s3|nt|sybarra: we all know how hard she works |pg||
nt|sybarra: also thx to our specs with helpful suggestions |pg||
nt|Vugraphu8: For everyone's information, I did ask Neil Chambers to confirm "down 1", which he DID.|pg||
nt|debrose: Thank you Shirley, and all those Shirley mentioned.   |pg||
nt|debrose: Thank you again Willie|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|pef: I predict down 2|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c4|nt|lestergold: or ten on ace of spade switch!!!|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|lestergold: cashing out|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg||
mc|6|pg||
