vg|2010 USBC Final,Segment 1 of 8,I,1,15,Fleisher,0,Diamond,0|
rs|6HW-1,4HW+1,4HE=,4HW+1,5DEx-1,5DEx-1,6HN-2,4HN+2,6SEx-2,6HNx=,5CS+1,3DS+2,3DN=,1SS=,2HN=,3HN=,5CE=,3NW+2,2SS+1,3SS-1,4SW=,4SW=,4SS=,4SS=,2SN-3,2SN=,3NN+3,3NN+3,4SW=,3SW+1|
pn|Weinstein,Hampson,Levin,Greco,Platnick,Fleisher,Diamond,Kamil|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SA965HQDKJT82CJ96,SHAJT85DA7543CKQ2,SJ832H962DQ96CA83,SKQT74HK743DCT754|sv|o|nt|algraves: hi Walter|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|flash: Big Club for E-W; 2/1 for N-S|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|flash: Nickell rally in last segment (46-8) fell short|pg||
nt|flash: welcome to George Mittelman|pg||
mb|d|mb|4D|nt|flash: final was 244 - 231|pg||
nt|algraves: 12 great players , 6 great pairs, this will be an excellent 120 board match. All are very hungry since usually to play for USA you have to go through Nickellville which is a pretty ...|pg||
nt|algraves: rough town|pg||
nt|flash: 8 segments of 15 boards each; 4 today and 4 tomorrow|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|algraves: however, Fleisher beat them in semis. so now the winner of this is off to the Bermuda Bowl next year as usa 1|pg||
nt|algraves: West going slamming first board. |pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|6H|nt|bigtrain: 4@S looks to  be RKC|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|flash: 4@D showed the void|pg||
nt|passell: trump lead here is killer|pg||
nt|flash: welcome to Mike Passell|pg||
nt|algraves: it has some play|pg||
nt|bigtrain: the translation of "some play" means not 2 fast osers  :)|pg||
nt|algraves: @S A onside and @C 3-3 is helpful|pg||
nt|bigtrain: losers|pg||
pc|h6|nt|algraves: yes , not down on the go = " some play"|pg||
nt|algraves: good lead by North|pg||
nt|algraves: he knows the opps are light in High cards so trump lead may be needed, and he doesnt really want to start any other suit, so a touch of passivity as well|pg||
nt|bigtrain: hard to see where 12 tricks are going to come from|pg||
nt|algraves: he will be able to come in and play a second trump as well on some variations so it is hard to see where 12 tricks are coming from|pg||
nt|flash: to update our report of the mix-up in the European Championships yesterday, Sweden and England were allowed to replay their match today|pg||
nt|flash: Sweden took a 17-13 decision in Round 9X|pg||
nt|algraves: Oh good , finally replays in bridge|pg||
nt|flash: standings at  http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/10Ostend/asp/roundteams.asp?qtournid=819&qroundno=10|pg||
nt|flash: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/10Ostend/asp/roundteams.asp?qtournid=820&qroundno=10|pg||
nt|flash: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/10Ostend/asp/roundteams.asp?qtournid=817&qroundno=10|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|flash: and, to improve the story a bit, i'm told that all players wear a team shirt with the country flag|pg||
nt|flash: so we wonder what the vugraph operator was doing...|pg||
nt|flash: our vugraph commentators, of course, claimed that the systems for the two pairs involved were similar enough that they couldn't work out the problem|pg||
nt|flash: we've been having sporadic connection problems, so pls bear with us|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|dJ|pc|h8|pg||
nt|flash: also, fair warning:  the players will play most 'thoughtfully' on difficult hands|pg||
nt|algraves: I feel re connected|pg||
pc|d3|nt|flash: the segments are set at 130 minutes for 15 boards; we've run over a couple times|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|hT|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|s4|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|h7|pc|dT|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3SA965HQDKJT82CJ96,SHAJT85DA7543CKQ2,SJ832H962DQ96CA83,SKQT74HK743DCT754|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: theres nothing like clients that cant complain|pg||
nt|henryb:  Mike Kamil is.was I believe an options trader. He has been a high level player for 25 years or so since he was in his early 20s.|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|passell: this looks like an exciting start|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: many would dbl with N|pg||
mb|p|pc|h2|nt|passell: yes surprising and surprised by no splinter by Kamil also|pg||
nt|henryb:  John Diamond and Brian Patnick are both escapees from Philadephia; both very good players who elevated to serious bridge recently|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|h4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|h5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|c4|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|h7|pc|dT|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|d7|nt|henryb:  Sorry about the typo|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|h8|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d5|nt|henryb:  Platnick. when I type fast its sometimes easy not to press a letter hard enough|pg||
pc|c3|pc|hK|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|passell: decent slam here |pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sJ|mc|11|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4ST872H932DQ65C865,SAQ3HAKT875DATC92,SK654H6DK973CAQ43,SJ9HQJ4DJ842CKJT7|sv|n|nt|bigtrain: -1 -5 -- it's all the same score|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: well he wasnt down 5 but he was certainly down|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H!|nt|algraves: so a touchdown, convert and 2 safeties on first hand for Fleisher|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@H is a random positive -- 8 to 11|pg||
mb|p|nt|flash: our operator for this segment is Bryan Delfs|pg||
mb|2H!|nt|algraves: Hamson Greco play the hyper aggressive precision style that is all the rage |pg||
nt|bigtrain: the rest of the auction should be fairly natural from here|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N!|nt|algraves: so very geneerally the big club systems consider limiting hands more important first step than naming suits|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|nt|algraves: Natural systems more to naming suits first then limiting hands|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|algraves: neither method works perfectly so you pick a style and enjoy it|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i think 2N showed a 3fit in some 4432|pg||
nt|algraves: So E will think he has some work to do, but the friendly clubs will allow all rational lines to suceed|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg||
nt|bigtrain: yes, 3NT would be more comfortable but either game should make eventually|pg||
nt|algraves: Natural would go 1@H  2@H  4@H|pg||
nt|flash: possibly, as in the Closed Room, East would value the hand as worth a Drury call|pg||
nt|kit: unlucky system quirk has the weak hand declaring -- fortunately, only an overtrick at most is at stake|pg||
nt|flash: welcome to Kit Woolsey|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|flash: to see the Closed Room auction, move your cursor over the Closed Room result on this screen|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|nt|flash: those watching on BBO-TV have to click on the Other Table Results tab|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c4|mc|10|nt|kit: declarer was not feeling so good until that ace of clubs hit the table|pg||
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qx|c2|st||md|4ST872H932DQ65C865,SAQ3HAKT875DATC92,SK654H6DK973CAQ43,SJ9HQJ4DJ842CKJT7|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb:  Brian has my hand; the joke at the local club is that bad cards follow me around|pg||
nt|passell: actually was bid at the other table  needed opener to have both aces  so first blood going to Diamond|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2D|an|7-10 h|nt|passell: Fleisher I mean|pg||
nt|stewball: 2@d=@h raise|pg||
mb|p|nt|henryb:  2@d is a transfer showing a constructive raise to 2@h|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hA|pc|s4|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg||
nt|henryb:  Mike, do you think declarer should have started clubs before the second trump?|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|passell: yes for sure|pg||
nt|passell: opponents might have been able to kill the dummy this way|pg||
nt|passell: if the club queen had been off side here |pg||
nt|henryb:  I remind kibitzers that I do not respond to comments/questions from people who do not have the courtesy to disclose their FULL name in their profile|pg||
nt|passell: Henry is afraid you may be one of his ex wives|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s5|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hT|pc|d7|nt|henryb:  I only have six of them, and they might be looking for the check (which is of course in the mail)|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
nt|henryb:  that is not actually true :(|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c3|pc|dJ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|mc|11|nt|henryb:  FYI for those who don't know, I have only one ex, and she has remarried|pg||
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qx|o3|st||md|1SQJ4HAKQDT4CQT843,ST965H98432DJCK97,SAK8732H5DQ72CJ62,SHJT76DAK98653CA5|sv|e|nt|algraves: ok the normal result|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|flash: and an overtrick IMP to Fleisher (as Kit mentioned, playing it from West was advantageous)|pg||
nt|algraves: 4@S down 1 or 2 with minor suit lead|pg||
nt|kit: 3NT is the winning spot here, but it will be hard to negotiate that|pg||
nt|flash: an 'upgrade' |pg||
nt|bigtrain: not sure that hand qualifies as a good 14|pg||
nt|bigtrain: KNR says 12.70|pg||
nt|algraves: 4@H a make|pg||
nt|algraves: perhaps NV he liked the tactical advantage of pre empting with 1NT|pg||
nt|bigtrain: http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi|pg||
nt|algraves: maybe 4@H hard to play with @S lead|pg||
nt|kit: however, 3NT goes down on jack of diamonds lead -- finable only if East overcalls (which he probably will)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: KNR is a hand evaluation program that helps to assess the specific adjusted value of a hand |pg||
nt|algraves: Seems very hard to bid to 3NT single dummy|pg||
nt|algraves: Double dummy means you see ALL the cards. |pg||
nt|algraves: single dummy just your own miserable 13|pg||
nt|kit: likely Levin will transfer -- whether to 2 or 4-level will depend on their methods|pg||
mb|4H!|mb|5D|nt|algraves: so we do well to remember that the players are playing single dummy|pg||
nt|algraves: this is one down with the winning @D view|pg||
nt|kit: unlucky decision to bid 5@D, but admittedly it could be right|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|flash: this is not a forcing pass situation, since N-S are not vulnerable?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Levin should certainly double|pg||
pc|hK|nt|algraves: yes it is hard to pass when you could be cold for game or push them up or even a 1 down save|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|nt|kit: even if it were a forcing pass situation, South's pass looks right with no diamond wastage and spade support|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|kit: declarer will have to choice but to get the diamonds right|pg||
nt|algraves: Forcing pass means that , " we both know it is our hand so they wont play this undoubled. I am interested in going on if you are, so you decide|pg||
nt|algraves: double by South is a definite opinion about bidding on|pg||
nt|flash: and, just to complicate a situation which already leads to significant mix-ups, the latest style is PDI|pg||
nt|flash: Pass-Double Interchange, which reverses the meanings|pg||
nt|algraves: The issue is the first part, " We both know it is our hard in high cards and defense so we can utilize this agreement )|pg||
nt|algraves: This is where the mix ups occur. |pg||
nt|algraves: Kit has written some good articles on forcing pass situations if you want to bone up|pg||
nt|kit: Since the 4-level transfer could be quite weak, I don't see why a force should be created here|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|nt|algraves: it is an invaluable tool for competitive bidding but requires some work and discussion with partner|pg||
pc|s8|nt|algraves: so that is a good point.|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|algraves: I dont either|pg||
nt|flash: East's choice of card, when playing to trick one, isn't trivial|pg||
nt|kit: Weinstein worked out that his heart tricks couldn't be going anywhere -- declarer does have to have 13 cards|pg||
nt|bigtrain: whenever one partner just bids game (via transfer or othewise) it should not constitute a forcing pass situation...  FP should cover hands where a low level game force has already ...|pg||
nt|bigtrain: been established (and maybe a few closely defined exceptions)|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|algraves: So while we wait , this was not a forcing pass situation becuase there is no guarantee that it is our hand defensively|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|kit: Although perhaps he should have cashed the second heart.  What if declarer's hand is: --, Jx, AKxxxxxx, AJx -- then he might get squeeze-endplayed if he doesn't cash second heart.|pg||
nt|algraves: no reason to think East cannot make 5@D|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|nt|algraves: QT dblt in opener ? or Ten doublton in opener|pg||
nt|algraves: is his decision|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 10 doubleton twice as likely|pg||
nt|kit: Seems like Levin should cover -- he knows declarer has AK of diamonds, but could his partner have 10xx?|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s2|nt|kit: However, if declarer plays for Q10 doubleton, his duck will have gained|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s4|pg||
nt|algraves: well done by Mr. Greco|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c3|st||md|1SQJ4HAKQDT4CQT843,ST965H98432DJCK97,SAK8732H5DQ72CJ62,SHJT76DAK98653CA5|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|passell: had he kept the dia in dummy he was making 6 |pg||
nt|henryb:  4@h is an interesting contract E-W|pg||
mb|4H|mb|5D|nt|stewball: Kamil takes the plunge but how could he not|pg||
nt|passell: very tough not to bid here|pg||
nt|passell: platnick should make and encouraging pass|pg||
nt|passell: an encouraging pass|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|passell: diamond will be very happy to dbl|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|henryb:  The vulnerability is sort of wrong, and he has reasonable dfense against 4@s|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg||
nt|passell: yes but could be a double game swing|pg||
nt|passell: I confess I would have bid also|pg||
nt|henryb:  or, as here, a double phantom swing|pg||
nt|passell: yes|pg||
nt|passell: its why we all love this game|pg||
nt|henryb:  declarer can hold it to down 1 by guessing trump|pg||
nt|henryb:  and it appears to have no cost to do so|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|nt|passell: he probably will  running the J only loses if south has the Q 10 doublrton|pg||
nt|passell: oops|pg||
nt|henryb:  he just did. guess trump that is|pg||
nt|passell: that is hard to understand|pg||
nt|stewball: cant see any rational for this|pg||
nt|henryb:  I would have shifted to the @sQ -- lets partner know the @s position|pg||
nt|passell: spade shift seemed easy|pg||
nt|stewball: yes this is known as a zero play|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
nt|passell: now on the run of the diamonds north has to be carefull to keep his clubs|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|d5|pc|s4|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|nt|passell: easy now|pg||
pc|s6|mc|10|pg||
qx|o4|st||md|2SAQ763HKT4DK54CK8,ST942HJDQJT83CJ62,S85HAQ965DA2CA753,SKJH8732D976CQT94|sv|b|nt|kit: Greco had to decide if Weinstein needed the queen of diamonds for the 1NT opening|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|flash: slam on the @S hook plus some handling?|pg||
mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3N!|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|flash: 3NT a slam try of some ilk?|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: so they are slamming here, 3NT encouraging slam try|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|flash: 4@S RKCB for @Hs?|pg||
nt|algraves: so this is a pretty fair slam , lots of chances in 6@H|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i was just thinking that it;s a borderline slam...  hard to figure out exactly how good|pg||
nt|flash: but, if it were, we'd expect a faster bid from Levin?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@S showed 5+ @S|pg||
nt|algraves: as NS play flannery|pg||
nt|bigtrain: as they play F******y|pg||
nt|kit: 4@S is probably RKC|pg||
nt|algraves: ie 2@D opener = 11-15 4 @S and 5@H|pg||
nt|bigtrain: actually by agreement i think it's 5+@H allan|pg||
nt|algraves: so responder can skip over spades with 4 and opener can revers into spades with 16 plus|pg||
nt|mildredb: if it is ckbk, why hasn't Levin responded?|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|nt|kit: good point Mildred, so maybe it is just  Q-bid|pg||
nt|Vugraphzff: It is not a sleeping vugraph op, I'll tell you that|pg||
mb|5H|mb|p|nt|kit: Well, that is the right response to RKC, so we still don't know|pg||
mb|5S|nt|bigtrain: caffine wired are we?  :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzff: Bids are starting to fall off the board|pg||
mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|flash: seems unlikely that 5@H call catered to North have 0 key cards (given the 3NT call), so we're a bit deep in their play book|pg||
nt|kit: One of them bid RKC, but not clear which one as auction is consistent with both|pg||
nt|algraves: There is a tray they slide back and forth under the screen that can only accomodate a certain number of bids. Like the human brain |pg||
nt|Vugraphzff: 4NT was blackwood|pg||
nt|flash: thnx, Bryan|pg||
nt|Vugraphzff: Happy to clarify|pg||
nt|kit: I guess from the followup that 4@S was a Q, and 4NT was RKC, with 5@S showing all the keycards and asking for specific kings|pg||
nt|flash: so, the 4-level calls were all control bids|pg||
nt|algraves: for sure they know what all this means|pg||
pc|h2|nt|kit: Anyway, they got to the slam, which looks to be a percentage slam -- on the lie of the cards it will make easily|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|flash: the auctions in the two rooms says a lot about the depth of the partnership agreements|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg||
nt|kit: If declarer ruffs 2 clubs in dummy he loses a trump trick|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|h9|nt|kit: instead he is going after setting up the long spades -- quite reasonable|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|kit: but after the spade finesse won, maybe he should have just ruffed 2 clubs in dummy|pg||
nt|algraves: now he can just pull trump and just manage conceeding a @S while still keeping his minor stops|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|d3|pg||
nt|kit: he may now be falling into a dummy reversal of sorts|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|nt|kit: but it is getting a little scary|pg||
nt|bigtrain: oops|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i don't think he can make now|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg||
nt|kit: ouch|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hK|nt|algraves: he had to just pull trump using one entry then over to dummy to concede a spade|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2SAQ763HKT4DK54CK8,ST942HJDQJT83CJ62,S85HAQ965DA2CA753,SKJH8732D976CQT94|sv|b|mb|p|nt|henryb:  why? same contract in the other room|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|passell: if he had cashed his hearts letting partner pitch clubs the diamond play would have been scary since if it lost partner had a club ruff coming|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|stewball: slam prospects here|pg||
mb|p|nt|passell: another close slam here|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|stewball: not quite as good as it looks with the handling charges|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|nt|henryb:  yes. but even without that, there would be the potential for N to be 6-1-3-3 and if S has the @dQ, can win and then cash hearts to let partner pitch clubs|pg||
nt|passell: yes is good only if spade is onside|pg||
nt|stewball: 4@h seems a bit abrupt|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s5|nt|passell: even playing A CLUB SYSTEM THIS SEEMS LIKE AN UNDERBID|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|nt|henryb:  taking a long time to play 5@dX in the other room|pg||
pc|h4|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|passell: the trump switch sped things up|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|h5|pc|d9|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|hK|pc|d8|pg||
nt|henryb:  only 6 now|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|mc|12|pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3S852H74DKQJ5CAT83,ST97H96DAT872CKQ2,SHAKQJT8532D4C654,SAKQJ643HD963CJ97|sv|n|nt|kit: very careless line of play -- Levin simply forgot to count his winners.|pg||
nt|flash: Levin won't be pleased with his line on that one|pg||
mb|4C!|nt|algraves: so a couple of early punts , one to each team in the slam zone|pg||
mb|4S|nt|kit: and the punishment was a big as it could have been -- just about the only lie of the cards where he could go down doing what he did, and slam not bid at other table.|pg||
nt|flash: the deal generator has certainly been favorable for the specs!!!|pg||
nt|flash: 4@C is their stronger way to bid 4@H|pg||
nt|algraves: Well Bob Levin has a champions composure so he we shake that off|pg||
nt|flash: (a direct 4@H call would be weaker)|pg||
nt|algraves: but sometimes it takes just a bit to get fully comfortable in a big match|pg||
nt|flash: US teams are notorious for detesting morning sessions...   |pg||
nt|flash: maybe there's good cause for that|pg||
nt|algraves: I see, well the only reall time is the present|pg||
mb|5C|mb|d|nt|kit: At the other table North wasn't selling to anything, so bid up to 6@H, and East wasn't brilliant enough to find the club lead so doubled slam make|pg||
nt|kit: Here the scientific 5@C call was doubled for the lead, so it looks like Diamond is going to win a lot of IMPs whatever happens|pg||
nt|flash: the Closed Room is playing at a pace consistent with the time limit; this room is 2 boards behind|pg||
nt|algraves: There is no free lunch in bridge|pg||
mb|p|mb|5S|nt|algraves: every approach has plus and minus components|pg||
nt|flash: 5@C is a control bid in support of @Hs|pg||
nt|algraves: The bashers win by camouflage|pg||
nt|algraves: the scientists want accuracy|pg||
nt|algraves: you pick your poison|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|6S|nt|kit: hard to imagine Levin isn't bidding 6@H now|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|algraves: North didnt pick that hand up to be on defense|pg||
nt|kit: Neither did East|pg||
nt|algraves: well said|pg||
nt|flash: the vulnerability strongly suggested that East not risk defending?|pg||
nt|kit: Levin still thinking, but seems like enough is enough|pg||
nt|bigtrain: only 2 IMPs at risk... but he doesn't know that |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|bigtrain: so 16 to diamond|pg||
nt|kit: Going back to previous board -- what happened?  I think declarer decided that if the spade finesse was off his best chance was to set up the spades.  When it won, he failed to ...|pg||
nt|kit: readjust his trick count, and continued with that plan.|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s7|nt|algraves: So without being critical was this a case of East taking insurance against a vulnerable @H slam?|pg||
pc|h2|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|hA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|h3|pg||
nt|kit: not just insurance.  For all East knew, 6@S might be making.|pg||
pc|c7|nt|algraves: so a couple of ways to win|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c6|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg||
mc|10|nt|kit: right.  If East knew for certain that 6@S was down then he probably shouldn't bid it, since 6@H might well be down and his partner knows more about the hand.|pg||
nt|algraves: Still a big pickup for Diamond|pg||
pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3S852H74DKQJ5CAT83,ST97H96DAT872CKQ2,SHAKQJT8532D4C654,SAKQJ643HD963CJ97|sv|n|nt|henryb:  could have made 7 by cashing the trump K before ruffing the @d|pg||
nt|passell: wow   these randomly generated hands are exciting|pg||
mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|passell: only a club lead beats 6 hearts|pg||
nt|henryb:  East has to lead a @c to beat 6@h|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb:  4@s looks the limit on any lead|pg||
mb|5H|mb|p|nt|passell: am amazed platnick didnt bid|pg||
mb|p|mb|5S|nt|passell: he certainly might now|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|passell: this is working out well|pg||
nt|henryb:  Do you think N has too many winners to open 4@h?|pg||
nt|stewball: S now knows for sure p is very short in @s|pg||
mb|6H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|passell: this worked out great for platnick|pg||
pc|sK|nt|stewball: this result will annoy EW|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s7|nt|passell: tough to find the 300 save on this auction|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|hA|mc|12|pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4S5HA864DKJ2CAQ532,SK9863HQT3DT86C96,SA42HK97DA754CJT7,SQJT7HJ52DQ93CK84|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|kit: 2NT is forcing as they play, I beliee|pg||
nt|flash: yes; we've seen that...    |pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|algraves: so south will show @S shortness|pg||
nt|algraves: yes|pg||
nt|flash: coming back into style|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|kit: Which will get them to 5@C, not obvious which contract is better, but both will make easily on the lie of the cards|pg||
nt|algraves: Levin judges that 5@C will make at least as often as 3NT opposite singleotn @S and he is OK if partner want to go higher|pg||
nt|kit: in fact, 6@C is a lucky make if they stumble into that.|pg||
nt|me argent: im betting on 6@Cs|pg||
nt|kit: but it is a pretty bad slam|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|nt|kit: not me|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|algraves: note that if south has , long clubs without the ace then 3NT has no play and 5C is cold|pg||
pc|s9|nt|me argent: :(|pg||
nt|koksoy: good  commend  ty..|pg||
nt|flash: 1NT response in Open Room, even opposite a nebulous 1@D opener, seems extreme? |pg||
nt|algraves: and even here , a losing Club finesse dooms 3NT but 5C still has lots of play|pg||
nt|me argent: who do i pay?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: not really|pg||
nt|kit: 3NT depends outright on club finesse (or 6-3 spades).  5@C has chances if club finesse off, but also might go down if club finesse on.  So not obvious which is better.|pg||
nt|algraves: yes , not as clear as I made out on this hand|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i've found most BAL 12 don't give much of a play for 3N opposite an agressive 1@D bid...  so we play 2N as 12+ to 13-|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg||
nt|algraves: but I agree with Norths 4@C bid personally|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg||
nt|kit: on balance, though, I think North made the right decision to avoid 3NT with Axx opposite known singleton.|pg||
nt|flash: thnx, Walter|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg||
nt|kit: Not obvious how to play this hand -- declarer is worried about 4th heart, and he doesn't know for sure the club finesse really won as West might have ducked Kxx.|pg||
nt|algraves: South worried that clubs are breaking badly or the King is still offside|pg||
nt|me argent: @H NS auction|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cA|pc|s8|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|c2|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c5|mc|12|nt|kit: now taking the rest of either red suit splits -- and they both split.|pg||
pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4S5HA864DKJ2CAQ532,SK9863HQT3DT86C96,SA42HK97DA754CJT7,SQJT7HJ52DQ93CK84|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|stewball: 1nt?|pg||
nt|passell: wow that is really going low|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|stewball: 2@s now?|pg||
mb|2S|nt|passell: levin weinstein bid the fair slam on board 4|pg||
nt|stewball: surely N has to do something constructive|pg||
nt|passell: that has to be a typo  north will bid 2spades|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|passell: fleisher bid 2spades vul vs not?|pg||
nt|stewball: did Fleisher really bid 2@s?|pg||
nt|stewball: imagine going for 800+ opposite that E hand|pg||
pc|s3|nt|passell: this is going to be a veruy high scoring match|pg||
nt|passell: very|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg||
nt|stewball: imagine the number if E and S @s were switched|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: kamil wants a review...Diamond 'top of my range"|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|dT|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1SKQJ83HQT5D83CAJ3,SA654H6DAJ4CKQT76,S97HA843DKT9762C4,ST2HKJ972DQ5C9852|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|3C|nt|kit: The limited 1@S opening in closed room allowed North to pass.  Not here, even if West hadn't overcalled.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|me argent: does everyone bid 2@Cs with west?|pg||
nt|flash: Fleisher's decision to stay out with the West hand risky, but understandable?|pg||
nt|algraves: on that previous board Diamond NS had misunderstanding of some kind to play 3@D on their 4-3 losing 7 imps|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|kit: Levin will compete to 3@D now|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|kit: Not comfortable, but it looks like he should make|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|kit: Hampson did better overcalling than the pass in other room I think -- better to bid now|pg||
nt|kit: This was questionable line, since entries to dummy are scarce -- may have been better to simply go up king of diamonds|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg||
nt|kit: Now on heart return, declarer will have to read the position|pg||
pc|h6|nt|kit: I think he will -- why would Hampson lead away from king of hearts here?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|dK|pc|c9|pc|s3|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|kit: not 100% clear, but Levin got it right|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d6|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|kit: now will set up spade, and lead to queen of hearts, confident Greco has king.|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1SKQJ83HQT5D83CAJ3,SA654H6DAJ4CKQT76,S97HA843DKT9762C4,ST2HKJ972DQ5C9852|sv|b|nt|stewball: that result wont be duplicated|pg||
mb|1S|nt|passell: 6 hearts failed on board 4 when declared had to decide whether to cross ruff or set up spades and went wrong|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: would not occur to me to pass that N hand in any system|pg||
pc|h6|nt|passell: this is like being in the twilight zone|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg||
nt|stewball: its taking limited openings a bit far imo|pg||
nt|passell: the same person who came in with 2 spades vul on the last hand  didnt overcall 2clubs on this one|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|s9|pc|c5|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|s4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|d2|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d6|pc|c9|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|d7|pc|sT|pg||
pc|cT|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|h8|mc|7|nt|Vugraphzfd: Played heart to A at end|pg||
pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2S653HK4DKJT32CKT4,S942H72DQ987CQ765,SAT8HAQT983D5CJ82,SKQJ7HJ65DA64CA93|sv|o|nt|algraves: so the contract just in|pg||
mb|p|nt|algraves: 4@C down 1 so accurate bride|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|flash: East hand too big to pass over 1@H, despite the unattractive shape|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|flash: close to a perfect Bramley X|pg||
nt|kit: Levin will show weak hand with hearts|pg||
pc|sK|nt|kit: And Weinstein accurately quits with that information|pg||
nt|algraves: so probably 9 tricks here|pg||
pc|s3|nt|algraves: when the smoke clears|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|pg||
nt|kit: The takeout double will help declrarer get the minors right|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
nt|kit: but declarer might take 2nd round hert finesse to lose to jack|pg||
nt|flash: Platnick appears to have chosen to show a constructive @H raise in the other room|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg||
nt|flash: (and then raised??)|pg||
pc|c3|nt|flash: better/saner explanation:  Xfer over the X|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cA|nt|ni hao: no clue|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|d9|nt|kit: Greco trying for uppercut if partner has 10 of hearts|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|kit: Hampson does well not to ruff -- now declarer may get the hearts wrong|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg||
nt|me argent: west did well nut 2 ruff|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2S653HK4DKJT32CKT4,S942H72DQ987CQ765,SAT8HAQT983D5CJ82,SKQJ7HJ65DA64CA93|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|stewball: greco hampson took the save on 5 and won 16|pg||
mb|2C|an|D or...|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|passell: yes the auction timed out better for them to save|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s7|pc|dT|pc|c5|pc|h8|pg||
nt|passell: this match isnt exactly a defensive struggle|pg||
nt|stewball: the pace isnt exactly brisk either|pg||
pc|h9|pc|d4|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cK|mc|9|pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3S9762HJ5D9852CQ53,SKQ5HAQ92DJT4CA42,ST43HK764DAKQ63C9,SAJ8HT83D7CKJT876|sv|e|nt|kit: declarer did well -- if hearts were 4-1, he could finish with trump coup|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|algraves: 5@C EW|pg||
nt|flash: that board takes us past the halfway point of the segment; still tight on time|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|nt|algraves: with good fguess|pg||
nt|kit: 5@C possible, but will need good club guess.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|nt|algraves: the vul game bonus is such a siren|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|kit: Greco looking for 4-3 spade fit|pg||
nt|me argent: or bidding his values|pg||
nt|kit: if they stay here, Weinstein will have to be careful to unblock in the diamonds|pg||
nt|kit: Greco should know his partner doesn't have much in diamonds, else Hampson would have bid 3NT over 3@C|pg||
nt|me argent: which platnick didnt do inCR|pg||
nt|kit: right -- in closed room, defense failed to unblock the diamonds|pg||
nt|algraves: So Hampson is hoping that his acutioin shows paritial stopper|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|dJ|nt|kit: Nice decision by Greco -- now lets see if he backs it up in the play|pg||
nt|algraves: well done , now he has to make it and that will not be easy|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dK|pc|c6|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg||
nt|kit: I think he will not get clubs right -- reason is that if clubs are 2-2, he will have a lock end-play and make even if North has both heart honors.|pg||
pc|cK|nt|me argent: ironic hand EW could well lose 13 imps for being in the only makeable game|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|nt|algraves: he is thinking that levin did not open 1NT|pg||
nt|algraves: ergo|pg||
nt|kit: good point Alan -- but North might not have king of hearts|pg||
nt|algraves: well that too, maybe the heart finesse first|pg||
nt|kit: but heart finesse first gives up on the end-play|pg||
pc|c4|nt|mildredb: also, weinstein gave the impression that Levin had 6@D by not playing the 2|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|kit: well done!|pg||
nt|algraves: bravo|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|algraves: that is a strong performance by EW on this hand that is for sure|pg||
nt|kit: Declarer judged that if North had queen of clubs and KJ of hearts he surely would have opened 1NT, so no need to preserve end-play possibilities|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg||
mc|11|nt|Vugraphzff: Greco, "He would have opened 1NT with the club"|pg||
pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3S9762HJ5D9852CQ53,SKQ5HAQ92DJT4CA42,ST43HK764DAKQ63C9,SAJ8HT83D7CKJT876|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|1N|nt|passell: likely to play 3nt now|pg||
mb|d|an|sup|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|passell: most experts ignore the diamond suit against precision since they usually dont have real diamonds|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|nt|passell: ns will have to unblock the diamonds |pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
nt|passell: if they fail to fleisher may guess the clubs knowing north is long in diamonds now|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|h3|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
nt|passell: big carding accident here|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|passell: these guys have played a lot of boards  fatigue usually plays a factor at the end|pg||
nt|stewball: even on the first set of the day?|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
nt|passell: trying to be nice|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c4|mc|11|pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SKJT72H8432DCAJ86,S86HKQT75DAQ98C32,S953HA6DKT32CK954,SAQ4HJ9DJ7654CQT7|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|kit: The 2@S overcall is somewhat risky, but after the 1@H-1NT start, the odds are that opponents won't have spade stack|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg||
nt|kit: Greco must do this, since his 4 of spades lower than dummy's 5|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sT|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SKJT72H8432DCAJ86,S86HKQT75DAQ98C32,S953HA6DKT32CK954,SAQ4HJ9DJ7654CQT7|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|passell: 1st team to 500 wins|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: Wjust knows its right to balance|pg||
nt|stewball: but he is struggling with it|pg||
nt|passell: he has only bid with the bad hands so far|pg||
nt|passell: he might push them to this game|pg||
mb|d|mb|r|mb|3D|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|passell: 5-2 heart break dooms 4 spades even with the friendly lie of cards|pg||
mb|p|nt|stewball: 3@s isnt a game try i'm sure|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|passell: I will quit trying to guess what anyone ever does at this table|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg||
nt|passell: you dont need a commentator you need a pyshic|pg||
pc|d5|nt|passell: hampson greco did well on last hand got to 5clubs and guess the 3-1 split  very well done|pg||
pc|c6|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|s7|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|sT|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sJ|mc|8|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1SQTHQ2DJ5432CK943,SKJ842HAJ93D8CQJ6,S5HT876DAKT6CAT52,SA9763HK54DQ97C87|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|algraves: 4@S ew|pg||
nt|kit: Playing limited system, Greco can jump to 4@S without worrying about missing a slam|pg||
mb|d|mb|3D!|nt|algraves: 2@D NS|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i don't think it's worth more than a LR|pg||
nt|algraves: they open so light he is prepared to play just 3|pg||
nt|kit: I think this is too delicate -- gives South the opportunity to double (or not double) the artificial call, which may help North with the lead|pg||
nt|algraves: even with standard maybe just a limit raise|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i'd buy a 4L bid if their suit was @H but definitely not with @S|pg||
nt|algraves: thats true but they open truly hideous hands|pg||
nt|kit: plus, gives South room to get heart suit in -- maybe N-S can make some hearts|pg||
nt|me argent: the lighter west is more the reason to bis 4@SS with east|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|kit: I think the gains from immediate 4@S call outweigh the times when stopping on a dime at 3@S is right.|pg||
nt|algraves: except if it goes X all pass down a bunch for no reason|pg||
pc|d7|nt|kit: but it might go double, all pass, +590.  The opponents are guessing also.|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pg||
nt|me argent: east does have 5 trumps allan|pg||
nt|flash: Board 10 was 6 IMPs to Fleisher - 3@S failed by a trick|pg||
nt|algraves: oh ok uncle uncle|pg||
nt|me argent: :)|pg||
nt|algraves: but Greco is playing and we are watching|pg||
nt|algraves: so maybe he knows what he is doing|pg||
nt|me argent: exactly  those that can do those who cant or those who lose commentate|pg||
pc|s5|nt|kit: Declarer will lead up to his QJ of clubs twice, establishing a club trick so he won't have to make a heart play.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|kit: you got that right Joey|pg||
pc|sK|pc|d6|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i'd like to point out both tables showed the hand as a limit raise :)|pg||
nt|kit: other table in different position since no takeout double -- there I would make a limit raise|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1SQTHQ2DJ5432CK943,SKJ842HAJ93D8CQJ6,S5HT876DAKT6CAT52,SA9763HK54DQ97C87|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|sharynr: no takeout double?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|passell: finally a breather|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|nt|stewball: hey Sharyn:)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pg||
nt|passell: strange no take out dbl   he may be reeling a little|pg||
nt|sharynr: hi John and Mike|pg||
nt|passell: hi Sharyn|pg||
nt|passell: very important to keep your focus when things are going badly|pg||
nt|stewball: loooong way to go|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|passell: you never know when your team mates are doing great   that is the case here|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d5|mc|10|pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2SKJ762HT7DKJ2CA74,ST85HAQ653DQ9CT98,SAQ93HKJ94D876CQ5,S4H82DAT543CKJ632|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|flash: Hampson's X is Snapdragon - @Hs with @D tolerance|pg||
nt|algraves: X shows @H|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|kit: The 1@D overcall will get defense off to an unfortunate start|pg||
pc|d6|nt|me argent: thats an underbid kit|pg||
nt|kit: at other table precision 1@D opening so no overcall, 10 of clubs lead, and now declarer's life a lot more difficult|pg||
nt|bigtrain: when did they start playing 2+@C openings?|pg||
nt|algraves: So East pays the price for his aggressive style, there is no free lunch in bridge|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg||
nt|kit: Of course if West had Kx of diamonds instead of Qx, the 1@D overcall would have been big winner.|pg||
nt|bigtrain: seems like we should have duplicated opening bids since bob is 4432|pg||
nt|algraves: declarer could still make without it though, eh? on a heart finesse of Q?|pg||
nt|kit: if he guesses the diamonds|pg||
nt|me argent: he did|pg||
nt|kit: looks like in other room declarer survived, getting everything right.|pg||
pc|sA|pc|d5|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c2|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d7|nt|kit: Declarer thought he would be on heart guess, but he couldn't go wrong.|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|h6|pc|d8|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SKJ762HT7DKJ2CA74,ST85HAQ653DQ9CT98,SAQ93HKJ94D876CQ5,S4H82DAT543CKJ632|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|passell: 4spades makeable on a diamond guess due to the lucky heart position|pg||
mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|passell: fleisher keeping in character bidding on the bad hands passing the good ones|pg||
mb|p|nt|sharynr: so long as west does not lead the @D9!|pg||
pc|cT|nt|passell: his bid makes guessing diamonds very difficult|pg||
nt|sharynr: and lead|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|sharynr: does Platnick know Fleisher's style?|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c5|nt|sharynr: would Fleisher have passed in 1st seat with AQ@H and @DA|pg||
nt|passell: I think they open fairly sound hands  |pg||
nt|passell: Kamil is a very sound player|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg||
pc|s2|nt|passell: very well done|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sA|pc|c2|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|d3|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg||
pc|h7|mc|10|pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3SQT954HT72D4CKJ64,SKJ87HJ83DAK95C95,SA6HAK5DQT86CQT73,S32HQ964DJ732CA82|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Routine 2@S contract, but not clear how it will fare|pg||
pc|h6|nt|algraves: 2@S will be interesting|pg||
pc|h7|nt|kit: This looks like effective lead -- I don't think declarer will survive, but we shall see.|pg||
nt|algraves: declarer is booked in top losers and has to negotiate the 4-2 trump break|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hK|pg||
nt|kit: Hampson considering whether it is safe to put in 8|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg||
nt|kit: he worked out correctly that it is.|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s2|nt|algraves: the AK of @D are favourable though|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
nt|kit: This is right spade play, since caters to Jx in West hand|pg||
nt|algraves: club ducked dooms it |pg||
nt|kit: Defense can get club ruff, or can tap declarer.  Declarer just doesn't have the entries to draw trumps.|pg||
nt|algraves: right so the 4-2 trump break will scuttle it|pg||
nt|kit: Seems like on heart return declarer doesn't have a chance unless I'm missing something.|pg||
nt|algraves: no he is a dead duck|pg||
nt|kit: at other table declarer got more favorable diamond lead, and made it after that.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|h5|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
nt|flash: Fleisher won the @D lead with the Ace and returned a small one, but Diamond guessed the position!!|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|c3|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg||
nt|kit: So, the old question of whether to lead from queen or jack -- queen works better this time|pg||
nt|algraves: well done|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|cT|pg||
nt|kit: Of course West had opportunity to double the 2@H transfer bid and didn't do so, so West doesn't have great hearts.  Does that tip the odds in favor of diamond lead?  Who knows.|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d8|nt|kit: Nice play by Hampson here, giving declarer a chance to go down another.|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s9|pg||
mc|5|nt|flash: next-to-last board now; time is up for this segment, so we can anticipate a slight delay in starting the next segment (scheduled for 25 past the hour)|pg||
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qx|c13|st||md|3SQT954HT72D4CKJ64,SKJ87HJ83DAK95C95,SA6HAK5DQT86CQT73,S32HQ964DJ732CA82|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|sharynr: N-S wil probably buy this in 2@S|pg||
nt|passell: yes|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|nt|sharynr: I don;t think anyone will balance after a transfer|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|passell: they will have to maneuver a club ruff to beat it|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d5|nt|sharynr: going after the tap, tricky|pg||
nt|passell: but might set up a heart pitch|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|h2|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|nt|sharynr: I think these two have played each other before:)|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|s5|pg||
nt|passell: they got an extra spade but lost the heart trick|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s9|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg||
nt|passell: needed to switch to a heart at trick 2|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|h5|mc|8|pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SQ4H6DAKJT65CKQJ8,SK52HK93D8743C754,SAJ98HAQT87D9C632,ST763HJ542DQ2CAT9|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|kit: Interesting question whether Weinstein is better off rebidding 2@D or 2@C on his hand|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d2|nt|me argent: think he is too good for 2@Ds|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|nt|flash: the tendency is to rebid the 4-card suit with extra values?|pg||
mc|12|nt|algraves: I bet they have an agreement and Weinstein followed their policy|pg||
nt|me argent: mine anyways|pg||
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qx|c14|st||md|4SQ4H6DAKJT65CKQJ8,SK52HK93D8743C754,SAJ98HAQT87D9C632,ST763HJ542DQ2CAT9|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|an|big Club|mb|p|nt|sharynr: potential slam here.|pg||
nt|sharynr: but lucky one, and prob won't come close|pg||
nt|passell: yes  2 finesses and diamond dropping  a good Canadian slam|pg||
nt|stewball: no fit|pg||
mb|1H|an|8-11 less than 5 spades artificial|mb|p|nt|sharynr: lol|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|sharynr: John, we have been insulted!|pg||
nt|stewball: nah,mike just is showing his scars|pg||
nt|passell: diamond chose not to upgrade his good looking 11 points|pg||
nt|passell: I was not insulting  showing appreciation|pg||
nt|sharynr: As Canadians, we forgive easily|pg||
mb|2H|an|waiting-asks 4M|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|passell: I was told in my younger years that a Canadian slam was 11tricks and an American on lead|pg||
nt|sharynr: lol|pg||
mb|3N|nt|stewball: and that was before nafta|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|stewball: not much drama here..time for tea|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
mc|12|nt|sharynr: ok|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfd: Michael showed his hand a trick 2|pg||
nt|sharynr: that was interesting|pg||
nt|passell: Levin down 3 in 2 spades on the last hand after a heart lead|pg||
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qx|o15|st||md|1SJ98HKQ52DQ72C643,SKT75HA863DJ4CKQ9,SA4HT94DK953CJT85,SQ632HJ7DAT86CA72|sv|n|nt|kit: yes, a bit too much for 2@D I agree|pg||
nt|me argent: no berkowitzs tho|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|flash: last board of the segment; thnx to our operator, Bryan Delfs, for a great job|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|flash: and to our commentators for guiding us through the boards|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|me argent: not brkowitz who always shows his 2nd suit independent of his strength|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|flash: restart in 10-15 minutes; hope to see you all back here|pg||
nt|Vugraphzff: My pleasure, should be around for the rest of the day in one room or the other :)|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|kit: does anybody know what E-W notrump range is?  Upgrading that to 14 really seems like a stretch.|pg||
nt|bigtrain: yikes...  i don't much like the "upgrade" from two perspectives|pg||
nt|algraves: hand lies very well for ew so one way or another this will make|pg||
pc|c2|nt|bigtrain: 1) it's not worth 14|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2)4-4M to easy to get buried|pg||
nt|Vugraphzff: 14-16 no trump, sometimes 13 ... Weinstein asked :)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: the hand isn't worth 13|pg||
nt|bigtrain: KNR = 12.85|pg||
nt|kit: lack of 9 of spades forces right spade guess, but still needs another trick somewhere -- 4 spades, 3 clubs, and 2 red aces only 9|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|algraves: well the 9 of @D onside|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg||
nt|kit: if they are opening that 1NT, their real range is 13-16|pg||
pc|c5|nt|kit: first hurdle solved, and yes, the 9 of diamonds onside looks like the swing.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|c8|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg||
nt|kit: now will come back and finesse for 9 of diamonds, percentage play|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|flash: thnx again, all; back in a few...|pg||
nt|algraves: nice set by ew , they played very well|pg||
mc|10|nt|me argent: after a rocky start|pg||
nt|me argent: on 1st board|pg||
nt|algraves: after the rocky  aggressive start |pg||
nt|algraves: yes their style is full ahead|pg||
nt|algraves: no free lunch apparently|pg||
nt|algraves: thanks to everyone , see you all later, , do some errands , US world cup match later today, 230 estern, mow the grass|pg||
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qx|c15|st||md|1SJ98HKQ52DQ72C643,SKT75HA863DJ4CKQ9,SA4HT94DK953CJT85,SQ632HJ7DAT86CA72|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|an|=spades|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sharynr: not vul, would you bid 4@S with west hand Mike?|pg||
nt|passell: looks like a fortunate lie of the cards here for spades|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|passell: yes indeed  I think 2 spades showed any hand with 4 spades|pg||
nt|stewball: me too,,ruffing value and primes|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|sharynr: but nothing really extra|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|nt|passell: if partner had the spade J instead of heart it would be a great spot|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dJ|nt|sharynr: but he would prob bid 4 himself..|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|passell: he seems to go pretty low|pg||
nt|sharynr: you said before that he was "solid"|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
nt|passell: extremely fortunate after playing a round of trump|pg||
nt|passell: he is a very tough opponent|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|s2|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|s7|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h8|mc|10|nt|passell: the excitement toned down  a fun set of boards|pg||
nt|stewball: back soon thanks all|pg||
nt|sharynr: I would heck bd 13|pg||
nt|sharynr: check|pg||
nt|sharynr: i looked at Levins play and looks like he took 6 tricks|pg||
nt|sharynr: unless the recorded play is incorrect|pg||
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