vg|2009 USBC USA2 Final,Segment 2 of 6,I,16,30,Fleisher,36,Nickell,8|
rs|4HE+2,5HE=,3CE=,3CE=,3CE=,4HN=,1NS+1,1NS+4,3NWx-2,5CEx-2,2SS=,3CS=,4SN-1,3SS-1,6CWx-1,6CW=,4HE=,4HW-1,2SE=,3DW-2,4SN-1,4SN+1,4SSx-1,4SS-1,3DE=,4DE-3,3SW-2,4SW-1,4HW-1,4HW-1|
pn|Fleisher,Meckstroth,Kamil,Rodwell,Zia,Rubin,Hamman,Granovette|pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2SKJTHJ8DK8CKT6542,SA52H754D97CAQJ98,SQ9763HK3DQ6543C7,S84HAQT962DAJT2C3|sv|e|mb|1D!|an|can be short|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2C|an|can DBL to show 3 card support|mb|p|an|Can DBL to show 3 card support|nt|ady: comfortable 4@H e/w   |pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|thegarve:  they appear to play 3@c as @H and minor so is 2S a WJO in @c?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell asks about leads - in general standard honor leads - K from AK - standard count & attitude - 3rd from even, low from odd - suit preference sometimes|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome back to David Greenwood|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Not too much to 4@H here|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Hi David :)|pg||
pc|dK|nt|minimeck: Very infrequently does jeff decline the support double, looking for the reopening double  that didn't come :)|pg||
nt|jtr: Here now people  Got lost sorry|pg||
nt|jtr: White Plains is a big place....|pg||
nt|thegarve:  so howdy all|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Meck: "I have a bonus trump for you"|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg||
nt|ady: hi David|pg||
nt|jtr: Hey partner|pg||
nt|ady: can make 12 tricks |pg||
nt|jtr: Not to mention the bonus 2Aces|pg||
nt|Walddk2: They are uncomfortably high next door: 5@H, but should prevail|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Yes, with a little good guesswork it makes 6|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rod has put his cards down, leaning back and thinking|pg||
nt|jtr: Zia's partnership have @ss; ergo opponents dont play 4@h|pg||
nt|jtr: @hA?|pg||
nt|ady: thinking of the safest way    to make sure of not going down in four|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: I'm sure you're right about that|pg||
nt|minimeck: Jan be sure to let us know when Eric's slow play prompts jeff to begin to shake his head in disgust(of the slow play) :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Just picked up his cards, so we'll probably see a bunch of tricks played very fast soon|pg||
pc|c3|nt|ady: wondering if ffirst club ruffed?|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Usually now 11 tricks will be fired off in the next 10 seconds|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h3|nt|Vugraphu1: Had the Q out, |pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg||
nt|thegarve:  why did he not make a support double?|pg||
nt|ady: now making 6|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: ok, well done|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: He was trap passing, Martin|pg||
nt|ady: was hoping for a re-opening double from Rodwell|pg||
nt|jtr: I would love to know why he played it that way|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c16|st||md|2SKJTHJ8DK8CKT6542,SA52H754D97CAQJ98,SQ9763HK3DQ6543C7,S84HAQT962DAJT2C3|sv|e|nt|fabsayc: a meltdown in the play apparently|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi Raghavan and Martin|pg||
nt|raghavan: Wc all kibits|pg||
nt|raghavan: Hi Ellen|pg||
mb|1D!|an|could be canape|nt|capercliff: the 10 was unlucky|pg||
mb|1S|mb|3H!|nt|gavin: west has to stop low|pg||
mb|4S|nt|capercliff: here is a slam im sure they will get to|pg||
nt|gavin: lets see if ew have some sort of lebensohl agreement here|pg||
nt|gavin: some people play 2nt here says i have a bad hand, some play it scrambling|pg||
nt|caitlin: not uncommon over this double to have such an agreement|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 5@C on NS, 3NT down|pg||
nt|gowdy: @S and a minor|pg||
nt|lestergold: and e/w cannot compete against this|pg||
mb|5H|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 6NT by north the top spot, but 6@D also excellent|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome back, drinks for all on me :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i predict 4h|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: assuming they have some kind of two way new minor available|pg||
nt|lestergold: no probs in this contract with the hands so well fitting|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome back to the last 16 boards of an exciting match|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: what is 2@H, maybe a relay|pg||
nt|mcarroll: If they opt for the Moysian @S fit it will be a problem|pg||
nt|caitlin: a support double?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: value showing|pg||
nt|lestergold: prob make 3|pg||
pc|sK|nt|raghavan: Double or 4S bid will come|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|caitlin: shows the need for the 2NT bid|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if it is, doubling is likely to help opponents|pg||
nt|gavin: was wrong about the line up|pg||
nt|gavin: they did runt he same 4 again|pg||
nt|fabsayc: even with lebensohl likely to try 4|pg||
nt|gavin: agree, west hand is so huge, hard to judge|pg||
nt|raghavan: oh What agood bid|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 5@C good bid|pg||
nt|mcarroll: great bidding|pg||
nt|raghavan: Martin did N hear you saying 5C?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well yesterday he made good bids i did not say|pg||
nt|caitlin: Nader Hanna can lead singleton spade but never gets partner in|pg||
nt|raghavan: North reasoningmay be S did not bid 3S over 3H so may be S 3 cards so clubs in S hand is assured|pg||
nt|caitlin: agree|pg||
pc|h4|nt|gavin: north can see at trick one that the only chance to beat this hand is his partner having the Jack of hearts since clubs are frozen if the Q and K are reversed|pg||
pc|h3|nt|fabsayc: wolperts main worry is xx in diamonds opposite|pg||
nt|sharynr: hi folks!|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome sharyn|pg||
nt|Walddk12: Hi Martin and Sharyn|pg||
nt|Walddk12: and hello to our wonderful operator, Karen, aka macaw on BBO @H|pg||
nt|mcarroll: good analysis|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|gavin: he will overtake the spade to play another spade|pg||
nt|gavin: hoping declarer leads a high heart from dummy|pg||
nt|gavin: giving him 1 extra chance to beat the hand |pg||
nt|gavin: if his partner has 9x of hearts|pg||
nt|lestergold: altho may be a prob for south with last club so mayube only 2|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|capercliff: pick a slam|pg||
nt|capercliff: I would think|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 5NT i guess is pick a slam|pg||
nt|capercliff: he will bid 6@d I would guess, holding 4 small @c's|pg||
nt|gavin: leading a 4th round and having his partner ruff high in hearts|pg||
nt|raghavan: Tx Martin|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h5|nt|sharynr: ty Roland|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|capercliff: especially after the X|pg||
nt|fabsayc: oops|pg||
nt|capercliff: ooooooooooh|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|nt|fabsayc: misinterpreted the 5nt|pg||
nt|mcarroll: oops indeed|pg||
nt|gavin: club shift will make this go faster|pg||
pc|cA|nt|sybarra: hello all and welcome back |pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|caitlin: Last night we had Gavin Wolpert here commentating...was excellent...he is now a pro and the Wolpert family is well known in Toronto with their mother, Hazel, who came in second in ...|pg||
nt|caitlin: CWTC, owns a major bridge club here|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d3|nt|vugraphznx: lost the play :(|pg||
nt|gowdy: tell them to slow it down :)|pg||
nt|lestergold: well its not that exciting a hand  i think two spades made unless defence errs|pg||
pc|s8|nt|gavin: i guess the word faster|pg||
nt|gavin: and jurek|pg||
nt|gavin: dont go together that well|pg||
nt|caitlin: Shirley you here?|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|fabsayc: i play weak no trump, when they double, always run, rarely gets any worse|pg||
nt|glen: do you have methods that get to your 4-4 fit?|pg||
nt|gambit: out of the frying pan...|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i will settle for a 4-3, even a chunky 4-2|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|gavin: unless theres a "than" between them... faster than jurek, is a common expression|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3SKQHAT84D9652CKJ7,SAJ875HJ93DQJ4CT5,ST9632H7652DA8CQ8,S4HKQDKT73CA96432|sv|o|nt|jtr: When a world class playr does something we dont understand we cna learn|pg||
nt|jtr: cAN|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell said sorry to have taken so long. F & K said no problem. Rodwell said he was apologizing to his partner :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2S!|an|Non-force, up to INV|nt|minimeck: they do play a mandatory support double, except in situations like we just saw.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: Right, and Meckstroth was going to be thrilled to defend 2@c... even at that Vul.|pg||
nt|ady: 2@C     11-15?|pg||
pc|d5|nt|mtvesuvius: Yes, promises 6@c|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Meck: "good luck|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
nt|jtr: Better be quick|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|d2|nt|mtvesuvius: 2@c and a @h to lose|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Should be fast|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3SKQHAT84D9652CKJ7,SAJ875HJ93DQJ4CT5,ST9632H7652DA8CQ8,S4HKQDKT73CA96432|sv|o|nt|sharynr: Well same result anyway|pg||
nt|raghavan: Ellen can u say the name of the city for kibits to know|pg||
nt|caitlin: nicely bid|pg||
nt|caitlin: Toronto|pg||
nt|raghavan: Tx|pg||
nt|bbramley: hello everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: welcome all|pg||
mb|1D!|an|could be canape|nt|fabsayc: Susie has all the secrets|pg||
nt|lestergold: 20/20 hand here|pg||
mb|1H|nt|capercliff: could 5N really be a grand slam bid after 1N?|pg||
nt|shals: Good evening this game is being played in beautiful Penticton B>C> I am joining Caitlin|pg||
nt|fabsayc: easy but "slow" 3nt|pg||
nt|caitlin: all 3 of these players, I believe are from Toronto, certainly Hanna Nader, Jim Green, Darren Wolpert|pg||
nt|caitlin: or Czyz may be Montreal, not sure|pg||
nt|fabsayc: match tightened up a little in the last segment|pg||
nt|glen: hi bart, glad to hear you are joining the kast of katz|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|fabsayc: don't ask me|pg||
mb|3C!|an|!d + !c|nt|caitlin: welcome Shirley Laidaw|pg||
nt|bbramley: yes, ralph & I will be warming up shortly|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: but i think if wolpert had heart ace, would have cued at some point, similarly with void|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Hard to envisage 5NT as GSF|pg||
nt|raghavan: NS may play in 1NTor 2C|pg||
nt|raghavan: 2C has come|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 1@H showed spades, double presumably hearts|pg||
nt|caitlin: at Open Table Carruthers, who has won many championships, is from Toronto, his partner Joey Silver from Montreal and L'Ecuyer and Fergani from Quebec|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: with the heart entries in easts hand , north can probably scramble together 10 or 11 tricks|pg||
nt|gavin: welcome shirley|pg||
nt|shals: ty|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome Shirley|pg||
nt|shals: ty|pg||
nt|caitlin: Shirley you have come to a Canadian zoo:)|pg||
nt|lestergold: n/ cannot come in at these colours|pg||
nt|lestergold: but 2s may already be overboard|pg||
nt|gowdy: 2@S looks like an underbid  perfect on this hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|sharynr: should East return to 4@S now?|pg||
nt|lestergold: important here for the defence to give nothing away|pg||
pc|sK|nt|fabsayc: good plan if they let you do it|pg||
nt|sharynr: lol|pg||
nt|sharynr: i type too slow|pg||
nt|shals: really..I am going to play ther next week ..wonderful tournament|pg||
nt|gavin: me too|pg||
nt|gavin: im about to start my trip around the world in about 4 hours when i leave for stockholm airport|pg||
nt|shals: hope we can meet|pg||
nt|glen: good evening all|pg||
pc|sA|nt|fabsayc: hi Glen|pg||
nt|mittmouse: hi|pg||
nt|fabsayc: a lot of work to do|pg||
nt|sybarra: these X  allow the XX,  |pg||
pc|s2|nt|lestergold: if defence open up hearts for example Green may end up with a trick|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|c5|nt|fabsayc: unfortunate lead|pg||
nt|rlebi: i guess they dont play super KCB|pg||
nt|sybarra: only helps opps imo |pg||
pc|c8|nt|mcarroll: and we end with a flat board - probably|pg||
nt|capercliff: there are many other ways he could have persued a grand slam on this hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this broadcast will continue all day, see bbo schedule for time|pg||
nt|capercliff: bye all|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i might have tried 5@S with hannas hand, he can be sure 6@C is down|pg||
nt|sharynr: agree|pg||
nt|fabsayc: what is your itenary, gavin?|pg||
nt|gavin: 8 1/2 hour flight to nyc, go into the city for a few hours (5 hour layover) to hang out with friends, then back to the airport for a 6 hour flight to calgary, another hour to banff ...|pg||
nt|gavin: before i quit for the night |pg||
nt|caitlin: Gavin is also a Wolpert .........Darren playing South:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: nice lead|pg||
nt|rlebi: 6 aces for @H and @s|pg||
pc|cA|nt|fabsayc: welcome to segment 3 of the Canadian finals from always sunny Penticton|pg||
nt|caitlin: for declarer|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|fabsayc: thanks to our operator Karen, to the commentators, spectators for their comments, to BBO for allowing us to see bridge from everywhere, and to the CBF for arranging this broadcast|pg||
nt|gavin: then spending sunday driving through banff which ive never done before|pg||
nt|caitlin: wow|pg||
nt|shals: ok|pg||
pc|c2|nt|fabsayc: fortunately wont have any effect here, but i see no point in this double|pg||
nt|bbramley: another case for 6RKC|pg||
nt|bbramley: good to have some rules for what's trump in ambiguous keycard auctions|pg||
nt|sybarra: isnt @H set with raise of @H?  |pg||
nt|sybarra: or could be @S with cue bid?|pg||
nt|bbramley: not the way i play - for me 3@S makes both suits key - immed fits in two suits|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the rule i use is partners suit is the key suit|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|sharynr: I wonder if  Daniel would have guess @D in 6@D|pg||
nt|gavin: and finally get there sunday night , relax have breakfast monday and show up for the ko|pg||
nt|shals: Banff and the trip to the Okanagan is spectacular!|pg||
nt|caitlin: to Penticton??|pg||
nt|fabsayc: warning you will have your picture taken 20 times and be asked to take pictures at least that many times|pg||
nt|caitlin: where you going for KO?|pg||
nt|gavin: penticton|pg||
nt|gavin: regional starts monday night|pg||
nt|caitlin: awesome|pg||
nt|gavin: sucks that i will miss my mom and bro by a day|pg||
nt|lestergold: Green will try to force/encourage the defence to open up something to his advantage|pg||
nt|bbramley: but joey may not know for sure|pg||
pc|cT|nt|fabsayc: needed to cash a second spade before the diamond|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
mc|9|nt|bbramley: if joey thought @Hs were the only key suit, then he could be missing a grand|pg||
pg||
qx|o18|st||md|4SKQJ32HK72DT732C7,S754H543DK986C852,SA86HAQT98DJ4CK43,ST9HJ6DAQ5CAQJT96|sv|n|nt|mtvesuvius: 4 of either major is easy here|pg||
nt|jtr: 2@c again|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell as he played the second club "clubs splitting?" Fleisher, "no" Kamil "yes" Meck "that was a trick question" Rod: "a tricks question"|pg||
nt|jtr: or 1NT|pg||
mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2N!|an|forces 3!c, either to pass or FG 2 suite|nt|ady: 5@C     good save|pg||
nt|minimeck: 2nt is either a simple raise in clubs or a variety of forcing hand types, the former being the case here|pg||
nt|jtr: Weak raise?|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 5@c is a good save, and this auction will make it tough for NS to come in|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: 3@h now|pg||
nt|ady: much better hand for 2@C this time|pg||
nt|jtr: Kxx@c protects him|pg||
mb|p|pc|sK|nt|jtr: Will South raise though?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rod: "OK, most decidedly not invitational"|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|jtr: Grand Theft Auto they call it i think?|pg||
pc|s5|nt|mtvesuvius: Wow, tough to interfere with this auction|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ady: big swing for Nickell|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Fleisher needed to double though|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
nt|thegarve:  must assume its a weak @c raise and double 2NT|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cQ|nt|jtr: What is wrong with 3@h?|pg||
mc|9|nt|jtr: Partner is short in @cs|pg||
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qx|c18|st||md|4SKQJ32HK72DT732C7,S754H543DK986C852,SA86HAQT98DJ4CK43,ST9HJ6DAQ5CAQJT96|sv|n|nt|caitlin: 4@S|pg||
nt|lestergold: if north holds onto th fourth club im not sure it can be done|pg||
nt|fabsayc: there was no defense|pg||
nt|sybarra: so how do you bid  all the keys Bart? |pg||
nt|sybarra: like in last hand  |pg||
nt|bbramley: btw, my responses are the same as for regular KC, but i have special doodads for both queens|pg||
nt|starkist: but looks like they play it as fit so then 2 suit kc|pg||
mb|2C!|an|6+!c OR 4+!c, 5+!s|nt|fabsayc: then a heart|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: good morning and welcome to the Canadian Bridge Federation Finals from Penticton, BC|pg||
nt|Walddk12: Hello Martin x 2|pg||
nt|Walddk12: and George|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 6@D is makeable but requires good guessing for sure|pg||
nt|caitlin: does that show 5-4?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: both majors|pg||
nt|gavin: at this vul probably could be 4-4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: it came up in set 1|pg||
nt|caitlin: increasingly popular these days|pg||
nt|fabsayc: opponents got to 5@D, and escaped undoubled but down 4|pg||
mb|2D!|an|asking|mb|2H|nt|mcarroll: Good evening from Dublin|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4H beatable?|pg||
mb|3C|nt|caitlin: Martin they haven't played this board??|pg||
nt|caitlin: I am confused|pg||
nt|fabsayc: score detroit|pg||
nt|caitlin: oh from set one|pg||
nt|glen: S suspects what the minor is|pg||
nt|susieq: I'm a little surprised Grainger didn't open that 3@C|pg||
mb|4H|nt|mcarroll: Hi Martin, George|pg||
nt|caitlin: Last year Carruthers came in second for Worlds|pg||
nt|caitlin: we shall see|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3NT may be better|pg||
nt|mcarroll: is this worth a superaccept?|pg||
nt|caitlin: with 9 card fit?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: suit is blocked and north endplayed|pg||
nt|lestergold: yes end play from the club of course as long as Green reads the position|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: 2-1 my boys are making a come back:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: a 2@H opening in first set, caitlin|pg||
nt|caitlin: now I understand, thanks:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: duh|pg||
nt|starkist: 2@d 2.5@h bid?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: looks like a diamond shift trick 2 does it in|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: apparently 1NT shows more than a bare 6 count|pg||
nt|bbramley: sure, an early @D ought to beat it|pg||
pc|sT|nt|fabsayc: for results so far http://www.cbf.ca/BWeek/09files/BWeek09_results.html|pg||
nt|mcarroll: W's interference may have prevented NS from reaching their 5-5 @D fit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: click on date time and event|pg||
nt|mittmouse: lets see if turner makes the good technical play of a low club back not that it helps|pg||
nt|mittmouse: hi martin x2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hi George|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Hi george|pg||
nt|fabsayc: best they can do is cash club, heart, and play a heart|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Making3|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Lost the play, will claim out the hand when they are done. sorry |pg||
nt|fabsayc: some partnerships use 2@S over 2@H as a relay, would have been handy here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: will come close to duplicating the undertricks here|pg||
nt|caitlin: I actually like Bergen super accepts|pg||
pc|s2|nt|fabsayc: perhaps only 2, declarer drawing 2 trumps and playing diamonds for safety|pg||
nt|sharynr: i would think most play 8-10|pg||
nt|caitlin: what do I really care.....the Maple Leafs going nowhere ever so let's have THREE teams here..Hamilton, downtown and Downsview park..let them ALL in|pg||
nt|fabsayc: jurek needed to put in the queen, forcing declarer to win|pg||
nt|caitlin: and unblock?|pg||
pc|s7|nt|shals: would all of you lead the j?|pg||
nt|caitlin: depending if you playing Jack denies|pg||
nt|shals: yes|pg||
nt|caitlin: if Eddie Kantar were here he would have a FIT re: lead of Jack:)|pg||
nt|shals: iguess that is where I'm coming from|pg||
nt|caitlin: regardless of HCP you super accept with 9 card fit.. and more to it|pg||
nt|fabsayc: enlighten us Ellen|pg||
nt|raghavan: llen - since S did not make a bid they must be opening with 12 Points ( We were seeing lighter openings in other USA matches|pg||
nt|caitlin: yes surprising|pg||
nt|caitlin: 8 loser hand I would open|pg||
nt|glen: it helps if W has two ways to bid 3H over 2@S, one to show a great hand|pg||
nt|glen: here E has two bullets (aces) and a fit, so 4@H regardless|pg||
nt|glen: now at this time declarer thinks N's minor is @Cs|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|caitlin: guess they don't play that|pg||
nt|raghavan: any lead helps|pg||
nt|caitlin: and Darren is not shy|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is a great lead for declarer|pg||
nt|fabsayc: only suit that really matters is spades|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|lestergold: e/w have 5 hearts to cash if they get the chance given a heart lead unlikely unless Green finds a double|pg||
nt|starkist: =|pg||
pc|h6|nt|caitlin: I like Rusinow leads by far best|pg||
nt|raghavan: makes easier|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is up to carruthers to figure this out|pg||
nt|bbramley: not an easy defense|pg||
pc|h2|nt|fabsayc: especially in this case|pg||
nt|gowdy: well S has show a 3 suite|pg||
nt|fabsayc: korbel wisely pulls|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|hT|nt|caitlin: gets rid of one heart loser|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|shals: the 8 might make pd play the q|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Yes now he doesnt have to worry about the @Ha|pg||
pc|hK|nt|fabsayc: the 4-1 spades may slow things down|pg||
nt|raghavan: Club and HK are favourably placed|pg||
nt|raghavan: another H may go on Clubs|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|sharynr: 9 easy tricks here. should not take long|pg||
nt|lestergold: 3n porbably going off as not likley to take dim finesse in 3n|pg||
pc|h7|nt|fabsayc: not sure about 4@S however, seems too much|pg||
nt|lestergold: 5d has reasonable play|pg||
pc|h4|nt|shals: it still can do damage|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now spade 10|pg||
nt|caitlin: look it how close this match is|pg||
nt|rlebi: he's likely gonna make it now|pg||
pc|hA|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|fabsayc: took his 9|pg||
nt|lestergold: even Rolan would have doubts about playing 6d|pg||
pc|s6|nt|fabsayc: arggh|pg||
nt|lestergold: well my money is with the defenc|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this could make on cross ruff except that fourth heart will be overruffed|pg||
nt|lestergold: this slam has more holes in it than one of them mousetrap cheeses|pg||
nt|gowdy: @D 22 @S king  @C q ruffs out onside  too good for Roland|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but it looks makeable|pg||
nt|glen: and the D took care of that|pg||
pc|s9|nt|caitlin: yes Jurek (North) might have made another move|pg||
nt|lestergold: can it be made double dummy?|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|lestergold: 12 tricks looks difficult|pg||
nt|fabsayc: apparently no does not have quite the entries to south hand|pg||
nt|lestergold: both made a cue bid too many - the KH metited an un cue bid if that were possible|pg||
nt|gowdy: ani nteresting push vs 3nt with big upside   sort of shows why slams should have better play thanthis as 5 @D could win big|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s8|nt|fabsayc: i truely dont understand a club play|pg||
nt|caitlin: E-W played in safe 3D on board 17 for 4 IMPs|pg||
nt|glen: if S had given a @C ruff, it was just ruffing one of declarer's losers|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|fabsayc: good line of play for the rest|pg||
nt|starkist: now for sure|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|starkist: I like that play|pg||
pc|c2|pc|d4|nt|caitlin: for 6|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|starkist: that too|pg||
pc|s3|nt|raghavan: Ithought playing D A first and back with SQ good|pg||
pc|d9|nt|caitlin: this is not pretty for E-W|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this was safer, although diamond ruff unlikely|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|caitlin: but if East ducks what now?|pg||
nt|caitlin: low spade|pg||
nt|fabsayc: easy spade exit|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: lost the thread|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|caitlin: np|pg||
nt|caitlin: do we know outcome?|pg||
nt|lestergold: how old are these guys this has the feel of a junior slam|pg||
pc|c7|nt|fabsayc: yes forgot they have not taken club ace yet|pg||
nt|fabsayc: they may still be juniors|pg||
pc|c5|nt|caitlin: hmm|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
mc|10|nt|gowdy: no  not any more|pg||
nt|lestergold: apparently both early twenties|pg||
nt|mittmouse: hi guys|pg||
nt|bbramley: hi george|pg||
nt|starkist: shaky|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this can not be a real squeeze|pg||
pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1SAK82H92DQT97CA85,SJ9754HAK6DK8C972,ST63HJ754DA3CKQ64,SQHQT83DJ6542CJT3|sv|e|nt|jtr: After 3@c comes round|pg||
mb|1C|an|natural or bal 12-14 or 18+|mb|d|nt|jtr: Early in the match, a bit ahead, does not want to go for a number|pg||
mb|1H|nt|thegarve:  its like a response of 2NT to a 2M opening - do you seriously believe it?|pg||
mb|d|nt|mtvesuvius: Not always|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: Double?|pg||
nt|ady: 2@D?|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Probably... Meck's double is a bit interesting though|pg||
nt|jtr: What is double?|pg||
mb|p|pc|s5|nt|mtvesuvius: Penalty I think, although that might not be a good choice :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 11 tricks in NT for NT?? Amazing|pg||
nt|jtr: Of 1@c i mean|pg||
nt|Walddk2: N-S|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell: so the range is like 12-14? Kamil: yes|pg||
nt|minimeck: don't believe they have a special agreement over the short 1@C, double is takeout :), i guess he did not like a 1@s overcall at these colors, but wanted to get his values in|pg||
nt|jtr: You would be in 6 one down Roland:)|pg||
nt|thegarve:  brings @h into the game far better than a 1@s overcall|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Takeout I assume|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I would certainly not make 11 tricks|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Zia must be a magician|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: It's reasonable for 9 tricks, but not much more|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I hear that Rubin switched to @DK at some point; that helps|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d9|pc|c9|pc|s3|nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell "OK" leans forward to think|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Fleisher: "I"m going to take as many tricks as I can take"|pg||
nt|jtr: 1360 specs and Michael Risenberg and noone can explain the double of 1@c:(|pg||
mc|8|nt|jtr: Rosenberg even|pg||
pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1SAK82H92DQT97CA85,SJ9754HAK6DK8C972,ST63HJ754DA3CKQ64,SQHQT83DJ6542CJT3|sv|e|nt|fabsayc: np operator|pg||
nt|caitlin: with 15 and pd could have 17...last board... should make a move|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hey great convention, gets you 400 every time|pg||
nt|fabsayc: we missed the key defensive play|pg||
nt|lestergold: well a dent in the lead perhaps altho could be in 3n in the open going off too|pg||
mb|1D|nt|fabsayc: david grainger wins the Lord Yarborough cup|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|fabsayc: a little smaller than the Stanley Cup|pg||
nt|sharynr: is this 1NT an upgrade or part of the range?|pg||
nt|susieq: systemically that shows a 4 card major and a longer minor|pg||
mb|p|nt|susieq: at least according to what I have here|pg||
nt|caitlin: so this is the finals of the CNTC|pg||
nt|glen: 4@C is a splinter, and as you can see from the E hand, partnerships have to agree on how little it can have for working high card points|pg||
nt|fabsayc: east hand may actually be above their minimum, but poorly placed|pg||
nt|glen: 4@D here, as played by many experts, is "last train" - last bid below 4@H - it says I like my hand, but may or may not have a @D card|pg||
nt|fabsayc: so much depends on cue bid style|pg||
nt|fabsayc: last train has its own set of problems|pg||
mb|1N|nt|fabsayc: seems like a bid showing majors for me|pg||
nt|susieq: oh my mistake- it's a weak notrump, so it just shows values|pg||
nt|sharynr: or just a good old fashioned penalty double|pg||
nt|fabsayc: they play Woolsey?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: aha|pg||
nt|sharynr: pretty good weakie :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if grainger establishes the spades west must ruff the fourth, leaving losing heart in dummy|pg||
nt|gowdy: 4@S  and I think bid now|pg||
nt|lestergold: 4s will be bid quickly and down quickly|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not the least of which is easts 4@S can be ace or king|pg||
nt|glen: for one of the famous Gitelman articles: http://www.imp-bridge.nl/articles/2over1b.htm|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|glen: this is before in moved from toronto, and now names conventions on the songs of vegas acts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hanna is out of bids in my opinion|pg||
nt|glen: *this was before he|pg||
nt|glen: yup, he was worth 1 try, not 2|pg||
nt|glen: unless their splinters promise a moose (grizzly in BC)|pg||
pc|s5|nt|fabsayc: ew needed to get in the bidding here|pg||
nt|caitlin: 3N would fare fine|pg||
nt|mcarroll: who will bid NT?|pg||
nt|raghavan: W I presume|pg||
nt|caitlin: I might have bid 2H with Nader's hand|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hanna|pg||
nt|mcarroll: if E bids 3@S W may venture 3NT|pg||
nt|raghavan: E will bid again S and W 3NT |pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3nt by west down on spade lead|pg||
nt|gowdy: ah it will take a while |pg||
nt|mittmouse: 4s is cols from the n side|pg||
pc|s3|nt|fabsayc: easy 3@S, and 2@D can be made|pg||
nt|sharynr: risky pass, David should expect a void|pg||
nt|fabsayc: bidding may be riskier|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|fabsayc: this should go down|pg||
nt|caitlin: that is a skinny 2N|pg||
nt|fabsayc: several chances to lead spades|pg||
nt|mittmouse: cold|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|caitlin: so then Canada and Mexico vie for spot in Brazil|pg||
pc|s2|nt|fabsayc: possibly 3@S now|pg||
nt|caitlin: Nader Hanna is President of Canadian Bridge Federation which sponsors the CNTC's|pg||
nt|bbramley: looked like 2@D was cold also|pg||
nt|fabsayc: biddable is not so clear|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|raghavan: RE has bid twice- 5 cards why develop|pg||
pc|s6|nt|caitlin: Bermuda used to be part of that but has spot in Central American zone|pg||
nt|caitlin: for Canadian Bridge Federation CNTC see: http://www.cbf.ca/CNTC/|pg||
nt|caitlin: is this a 2NT catch up bid?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: just an overbid in my view|pg||
nt|bbramley: must still guess the @SJ, although east is likely to help on lead|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|bbramley: that lead won't cost|pg||
nt|gambit: every lead gives away something, endplayed trick ! ]\|pg||
pc|hK|nt|raghavan: H lead prob|pg||
pc|h4|nt|fabsayc: yikes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: penguins win|pg||
nt|gavin: ship itttttt|pg||
nt|fabsayc: needs the diamond finesse|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|caitlin: Darren's 9 asks for spade|pg||
nt|raghavan: C 9|pg||
pc|dK|nt|fabsayc: declarer on the winning line|pg||
nt|lestergold: an auction likely to  be duplicated tho|pg||
nt|lestergold: a club club and club wuill give declarer a losing option to go down 2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
nt|sharynr: excellent result for N-S|pg||
nt|caitlin: Darren Wolpert (not to be confused with his brother Galvin) and Czyzowicz are aggressive bidders|pg||
nt|raghavan: S can take 2 Spade only|pg||
pc|sT|nt|gowdy: not sure about that  north has an interesting hand  depends on meathods |pg||
nt|lestergold: the 4s bid is normal becuase either it makes or if it doesnt it prevents e/w  however here i think e/w liimit was 3 dims|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|fabsayc: indeed, 3NT makes EW|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and the carnage if NS declare, nobody wants to know|pg||
nt|caitlin: I believe reverse smith echo here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: we have moose here also|pg||
pc|s8|nt|caitlin: sorry Gavin |pg||
nt|caitlin: it is Darren|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now turner is confused, looks like partner was trying to find entry for a heart through declarer|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|c4|nt|raghavan: 2 S + C A + H A|pg||
nt|caitlin: so Wolpert's @C7 says I do not like hearts|pg||
nt|mcarroll: it needed an initial @S lead to beat 3NT|pg||
pc|c3|nt|caitlin: well Roy did bid hearts|pg||
pc|cA|nt|fabsayc: yes but down only 1 this way|pg||
nt|caitlin: true|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|caitlin: and Wolpert can't be the one to lead them:)|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|Walddk12: Welcome to Cliff Gillis|pg||
nt|mittmouse: ok guys be back later|pg||
nt|capercliff: hi folks|pg||
nt|caitlin: may find spade lead now|pg||
nt|caitlin: should find it|pg||
nt|raghavan: H  is 9th trick|pg||
nt|raghavan: He may duck again hoping D K with S|pg||
nt|caitlin: interesting re: Green's 3@H bid|pg||
nt|caitlin: of course it ASKS|pg||
nt|caitlin: if Green had hearts he would bid 3N|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d5|pg||
nt|lestergold: club club and club south may have ruffed with ace and run the Js|pg||
nt|gambit: claiming quickly |pg||
pc|c8|pc|c7|nt|raghavan: ducks|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h8|nt|fabsayc: if partner is prone to 4 card overcalls it somewhat reduces the chances that 4@S is either a sac or make|pg||
nt|gowdy: True  but N may have some gadgets to open  I'm not sure what they play|pg||
pc|c5|nt|caitlin: Larry Cohen at www.larryco.com has lots of info on when these bids are asking or telling|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|raghavan: Now S may be squeezed|pg||
nt|fabsayc: south squeezed now|pg||
pc|c6|pc|d6|pc|h9|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dJ|mc|11|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2SJT7HK86DJ7CT9854,SK863HQT52DQT9CKJ,SQ92HAJ9743DA865C,SA54HDK432CAQ7632|sv|b|mb|1D!|an|2+|nt|thegarve:  t/o , I would do the same|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 5@c Doubled here in the CR|pg||
mb|1H|mb|2H!|an|FG, clubs, possibly only 4|nt|mtvesuvius: Hamman was in 4@H for a minute, which would not been good for them|pg||
nt|minimeck: well, there is a reason why Jeff oftentimes does not produce a high score in a bidding poll, he oftentimes deviates from a 'standard' action|pg||
mb|d|mb|2N|nt|ady: 9 tricks seems ok in hearts|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: 9 tricks is pushing it|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ady: I would be happy in 3@HX|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: I think it may be -1 though|pg||
nt|jtr: Rod is not|pg||
mb|3N|nt|mtvesuvius: 3NT will be interesting|pg||
nt|jtr: Differing opinions David|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: small @h lead will kill it big time|pg||
nt|ady: cant lead a heart when void|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: FLeisher asks about 3NT and DBL - Meck shrugs about 3NT and says DBL is "willing to defend"|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: Rod can|pg||
mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: West is declarer, hmm... :)|pg||
nt|thegarve:  they'll stick this out|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell: "well, sorry, looks like I did the wrong thing"|pg||
nt|jtr: @h to the 8?:)|pg||
nt|jtr: Not necessary sorry|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 7 tricks before the defense gets back in|pg||
nt|minimeck: suprising rodwell decides to pull the double only to settle for 3nt x?|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s4|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
nt|jtr: 3NT is ok single dummy|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|d2|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: It's not bad, but the @c split will kill it|pg||
nt|kit: dummy was sort of squeezed on the hearts|pg||
nt|kit: now even if Kamil shifts to a diamond, declarer still has only 8 tricks|pg||
nt|bigtrain: for those interested 2@H is 5+@C GF|pg||
nt|caitlin: it is a 2/1 group|pg||
pc|hA|nt|caitlin: sorry|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg||
nt|ady: I think this will be better for e/w than 3@HX|pg||
nt|kit: would 2@C have been a negatiave free bid Walter?|pg||
pc|h4|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|d8|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
nt|bigtrain: yes|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d5|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Now Meckstroth gets the bad news, but cannot avoid -2|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|s6|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|s8|nt|kit: note high club plays by Fleisher -- telling his partner he has the key spade control|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|kit: and Kamil trusts him|pg||
mc|7|nt|mtvesuvius: Right, otherwise Kamil would have to retain his Qx@s|pg||
pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2SJT7HK86DJ7CT9854,SK863HQT52DQT9CKJ,SQ92HAJ9743DA865C,SA54HDK432CAQ7632|sv|b|nt|fabsayc: was that 9 or 10 tricks|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 10|pg||
nt|fabsayc: looked like only 9|pg||
nt|caitlin: we have to remember that there are also novices and low intermediates in spec who may not know when such bids are asking or telling|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not too many in penticton area however|pg||
nt|glen: the bears ate them|pg||
nt|glen: an ottawa bear is in pendiction for the tourney|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he did that fast, guess would have taken much longer if in 4|pg||
nt|bbramley: how many tricks did he take, operator?  if he guessed spades he made 10|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcbruce:  The CSTC is over after three quarters, with Hobart winning after a big 3Q.|pg||
mb|1H|nt|mcarroll: Hi Cliff|pg||
nt|glen: penticton|pg||
nt|fabsayc: obvious you have never encountered a moose in the wild :)|pg||
mb|2C|nt|fabsayc: welcome Cliff|pg||
nt|caitlin: so when is final game?|pg||
mb|2H|nt|capercliff: cheers guys|pg||
nt|fabsayc: transfer advance of 1@D|pg||
nt|caitlin: E-W make 3S on last hand|pg||
nt|gavin: this match ends tomorrow|pg||
nt|gavin: stanley cup is over ! |pg||
nt|caitlin: hockey Gavin:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: we are on at 9:30, 12, 4:30 and 7 tomorrow for the remaining 4 sets|pg||
nt|fabsayc: all time PDT|pg||
nt|caitlin: ohhhhhhhhh|pg||
nt|glen: S has a good @H fit, but soft values in the other suits, and no ruffing value|pg||
nt|mcbruce:  his means we have two sets of boards, one at each table, so my duplication accuracy will be put to the test...but nobody will wait for a board|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: the claim was for making 3 :)|pg||
mb|d|mb|4H|nt|gavin: 4-3 pittsburgh, thats practically like bringing the cup to canada|pg||
nt|fabsayc: double support|pg||
mb|4N|nt|fabsayc: showing hearts, adds a lot of possible new sequences |pg||
nt|capercliff: is this only after a X?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i am not sure, is good any time in my opinion|pg||
nt|gavin: about as close as were gonna get for a while|pg||
nt|caitlin: "practically"|pg||
nt|fabsayc: how do you figure that gavin|pg||
nt|gavin: our young superstar wins|pg||
nt|lestergold: tame 3n here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: a quackery|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: these transfer responses ar gaining popularity everywhere|pg||
nt|capercliff: i quite like it after a double, puts the doubler on lead but requires lots of notes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this tricky lead is going to backfire|pg||
nt|fabsayc: erase my last comment, lost the plot :)|pg||
nt|gavin: vancouver is the only canadian team with a hope|pg||
nt|shals: I agree but great story  for the underdogs|pg||
nt|caitlin: 3@C??|pg||
nt|shals: I hope!!|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hope springs eternal, go whitecaps|pg||
mb|5C|nt|starkist: not beating now|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 3NT is the simplest bid available|pg||
mb|p|nt|shals: yes|pg||
nt|caitlin: Gavin would you bid 3C?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: gosh i must be old, i pass in second seat|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is risky|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but quite a play problem|pg||
nt|raghavan: Which is the 9th trick? |pg||
nt|mcarroll: He has to find one of the @SJ,@DQ or @CQ|pg||
nt|fabsayc: will probably attempt to combine chances|pg||
nt|raghavan: C Q difficult|pg||
nt|gowdy: looks like coffee ( or wine ) time here|pg||
mb|d|nt|caitlin: 6@S|pg||
nt|caitlin: moi aussi|pg||
nt|shals: me too|pg||
nt|gavin: i wouldnt open :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: cash top cards in one minor|pg||
nt|lestergold: with hearts 3/3 and the qc as entry no probs in this contract|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not that tame, saved by heart split and club ace right|pg||
nt|glen: dummy comes down and declarer thinks should I work out on how 4@S would do - no first, play this|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: but no i wouldnt bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: 3@C Fit showing jump by passed hand|pg||
nt|gavin: perfect hand to pass and make an unusual 2NT bid later|pg||
pc|hK|nt|fabsayc: not bergen?|pg||
nt|caitlin: by passed hand?|pg||
nt|caitlin: unlikely|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hey just asking|pg||
nt|caitlin: why not drury then?|pg||
nt|caitlin: :))|pg||
nt|shals: yes it is|pg||
nt|caitlin: Greetings|pg||
nt|lestergold: thats why i said it was tame as the cards lie not in an absoluiter sense|pg||
nt|lestergold: hi caitlin|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi Mike|pg||
nt|caitlin: is Karen our operator?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but does he have a losing alternative, perhaps not|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi Karen:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: I almost fell asleep in the sun:)|pg||
nt|lestergold: i dont think so he has to establish clubs and that means spades will be established and he cannot lose the lead again|pg||
nt|lestergold: so its a one shot contract|pg||
pc|h2|nt|sharynr: good stop by E-W|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hey Gowdy:)|pg||
nt|mcbruce:  four rounds to play in COPC; we'll announce leaders when posted|pg||
pc|h7|nt|fabsayc: down 1 or numerous overtricks on this defense|pg||
nt|caitlin: welcome|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|caitlin: agree|pg||
pc|c3|nt|fabsayc: what if korbel ducks two clubs|pg||
nt|fabsayc: then the hearts squeeze hanna|pg||
pc|c4|nt|sharynr: looks like N-S make 21H so even down 1 is ok|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: sorry, they are playing too fast and lost thread |pg||
nt|sharynr: but that was a reasonable shift|pg||
nt|mittmouse: technically hanna should now try a club if that is wrong he has to take a s finesse|pg||
nt|sharynr: good point G|pg||
nt|fabsayc: so saved by the diamond 9 then|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|mcarroll: or possibly cash @Ss to check if they are 3-3 or the J falls, then 2 top @Cs|pg||
nt|raghavan: finessing towards w is likely - since W may not know that H K is alone|pg||
nt|caitlin: he will finesse West for @DQ|pg||
nt|lestergold: Hanna will try K then lead low to the Q better odds than playing anything else|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|caitlin: I think any bid showing spade support would have turned Turner on:)|pg||
pc|dA|nt|fabsayc: crosby doing pushups with the cup|pg||
nt|caitlin: Green gave count|pg||
nt|lestergold: Hanna knows that the ace will be held up otherwise|pg||
nt|caitlin: so David Grainger and Daniel Korbel|pg||
nt|lestergold: better unblock hearts now he will of course|pg||
nt|fabsayc: did he really pitch a heart?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: y|pg||
nt|lestergold: if he did hes dead|pg||
pc|d2|nt|shals: woops this is going to be tough|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i have a crystal ball tuner, Mike|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|gavin: 2 down with a winning finesse|pg||
nt|lestergold: it looks misere from here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: pitching a spade gives up any chance of a make|pg||
pc|d5|nt|fabsayc: for me 3@C would be clubs only|pg||
nt|caitlin: I see 7 tricks|pg||
pc|d3|nt|fabsayc: good save against 2@H|pg||
nt|caitlin: upside down|pg||
nt|glen: yes, but he was doing it in hope to entice a @S play|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|caitlin: no X no trouble?|pg||
nt|shals: maybe|pg||
nt|caitlin: let's remember these guys may be TIRED|pg||
nt|gavin: oh ya, this is a gruelling event to say the least|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|caitlin: for me FSJ|pg||
nt|caitlin: by passed hand and in competition|pg||
nt|caitlin: they didn't get here without lots of play|pg||
nt|shals: wouldn't we all..|pg||
nt|gavin: its an achievement to be in the finals but the losing team probably wont feel that way|pg||
nt|shals: true..|pg||
nt|caitlin: hmm|pg||
pc|h8|nt|capercliff: this is going well for declarer|pg||
pc|hT|nt|fabsayc: north will just keep discarding|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Open Room got to 4@D on 3|pg||
nt|gambit: To all you hockey fans Pitt wins 2-1 in a nailbiter |pg||
nt|glen: though the D can clearly see that a @H discard is called for|pg||
nt|glen: i.e. don't trust that @S discard at all|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: sorry too fast |pg||
pc|hJ|nt|fabsayc: down 2|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|caitlin: Yes Cam this has been a topic woven in with bridge:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: Detroit is a big bridge city|pg||
nt|lestergold: why hold on to the pesky diamonds|pg||
nt|bbramley: south has a lock to play @Cs - east has shown 16 HCP already and is marked with at most 3 @Cs|pg||
pc|d6|nt|capercliff: then he will be endplayed|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is not going to make this way|pg||
pc|d4|nt|raghavan: comes to S J|pg||
pc|c5|nt|fabsayc: no, 3 tricks to defense|pg||
nt|caitlin: maybe so|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3SAQ964HK98D5CKJ53,SKJ7HQ732DA9843C2,S82HJ64DKJT7CA976,ST53HAT5DQ62CQT84|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|thegarve:  not their style to pull a 3NT doubled|pg||
mb|1S|nt|Vugraphu1: Meck said "looked like a good spot ... until they had 5 clubs"|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: Clear take-out double?|pg||
mb|1N|an|Semi forcing|nt|jtr: hmm seems not|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|ady: thats about all|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|an|2-3 hearts|mb|p|mb|2S|an|8-10 with doubleton !s|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: yes    fair enough   South a bit of sshape|pg||
nt|thegarve:  the slow route to 2@S is about 8-9 and a doubleton @s|pg||
nt|kit: 2@D looks like a Bart variation -- now 2@S shows an invite with a doubleton spade|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Longer route to the same spot :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Kamil: "I"m sorry about the whole thing, I'll go back and pass 1@s"|pg||
pc|h3|nt|ady: club suit must be 4 on this auction|pg||
nt|jtr: Wise man:)|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg||
nt|kit: this is an illustration of one of the weaknesses of forcning NT -- without that, North would play in the superior club partial|pg||
nt|ady: surely 1NT   not forcing    Kamil passed hand|pg||
pc|h8|nt|mtvesuvius: Many people still play it forcing|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg||
nt|jtr: Good point David|pg||
nt|thegarve:  would pass with a minimum so 2@c should be a real suit or shapely|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Fleisher wrote semi-forcing on the note to Meck, so they don't play it as forcing by a passed hand|pg||
nt|kit: if not forcing, why did Kamil do what he did?  If he wanted to invite, surely he could have bid 3@C.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Things don't add up then|pg||
nt|thegarve:  3@c seems clear|pg||
nt|jtr: Maybe they just keep the saem ystem for convenience's sake?|pg||
nt|jtr: same|pg||
nt|jtr: system lol|pg||
nt|jtr: bedtime approaches|pg||
nt|thegarve:  lightweight Dave its only the Cinderella hour|pg||
nt|ady: dont like it forcing  opposite a passed hand    means you can never play 1NT   or have to introduce 3 card suits|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: When he put down dummy, Kamil commented that he might have passed 2@c, so did know Fleisher had 4|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
nt|kit: Fleisher decides it is better to let opponents break a suit|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: ok, that makes a little more sense now|pg||
nt|kit: Nice guess in diamonds -- not obvious to me at all|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|s4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c3|nt|jtr: As Michael Rosenberg pointed out, the guess was marked by the lead|pg||
nt|ady: tht the 2@D bid would show 6 diamonds  and a weak hand  obviously not the way they play|pg||
pc|s7|nt|thegarve:  playing it nicely suspecting the @s position|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|pg||
nt|jtr: with Qs in both suits he might have led a @d|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|s6|pg||
nt|kit: Fleisher going for scramble approach -- doesn't exactly work when clubs 4-1, but this may work okay anyway|pg||
pc|c5|pc|sJ|nt|mtvesuvius: Yes, he will score all his trumps though|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|cQ|nt|mtvesuvius: It works well enough for him :)|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|kit: now he will have to work out where the king of spades is|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: At this point he still has a guess to who has the K@S|pg||
nt|thegarve:  he knows the shape |pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Fleisher had the spade A out, then put it back and is making sure his picture of the hand is right|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s2|mc|8|nt|mtvesuvius: he has complete count though I think|pg||
nt|kit: Rodwell passed in third seat with queen of diamonds, ace of hearts, queen of clubs -- so no king of spades|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Right|pg||
nt|jtr: On this hand?|pg||
nt|ady: well played|pg||
nt|thegarve:  at this vul when do they pass third in hand?|pg||
nt|jtr: I missed that sorry|pg||
nt|kit: sorry, second seat -- but still good enough inference|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Yes, it's enough inference|pg||
nt|jtr: Indeed|pg||
pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3SAQ964HK98D5CKJ53,SKJ7HQ732DA9843C2,S82HJ64DKJT7CA976,ST53HAT5DQ62CQT84|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: what happened?|pg||
nt|sharynr: and Hanna must have taken that line|pg||
nt|gavin: hughest hand is way too strong for 2nt in my opinion|pg||
nt|gavin: very difficult hand to bid|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no down 1 on this defense|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: the interesting defense would have been to start with a high club|pg||
mb|p|nt|mittmouse: i think he must have done it right good technique by hanna|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yikes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hanna needed 6 hearts for his overcall, so finesse long odds at the end|pg||
nt|lestergold: operator says it was a heart discarded|pg||
mb|1S|nt|sharynr: Would anyone open east hand and if so, what|pg||
nt|gavin: too strong for 2C then 2nt too|pg||
nt|shals: and hockey city|pg||
nt|gavin: so many slams where partner doesnt show interest|pg||
nt|gavin: 1D is a reasonable choice |pg||
nt|raghavan: Part score deal|pg||
nt|caitlin: a constructive 2@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: in which case unless im missing something it was a bad error|pg||
mb|1N|nt|susieq: I would open 3@D but I'm a little crazy|pg||
nt|caitlin: whereas if he were weaker he would first bid 1NT then 2@S|pg||
nt|lestergold: otherwise  2 spades 2 clubs 5 hearts and contract made|pg||
nt|starkist: all I know is I'm leading the @h j on this hand|pg||
nt|bbramley: @H8 is the key card|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: both k's are working|pg||
nt|susieq: that's fit showing|pg||
nt|caitlin: Turner will pass I assume|pg||
nt|gambit: Will C balance? I thk y|pg||
nt|gavin: this auction would almost always be 4-6 or 5-6|pg||
nt|gavin: hard to picture partner with a hand good enough for this action that doesnt have 6 diamonds |pg||
nt|gavin: turner has a monster|pg||
nt|gavin: (given the state of the auction)|pg||
nt|gavin: with  aspade stopper and 3 diamonds and the queen of hearts|pg||
nt|gavin: i think he owes hughes 2 or 3NT|pg||
nt|gowdy: 1nt = @C|pg||
nt|gowdy: suit or a lead|pg||
mb|2C|nt|capercliff: interesting choice to bid 3N|pg||
nt|fabsayc: they may regret not playing 4@S|pg||
nt|capercliff: 4333 often plays at least a trick better in 4 of a major|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Yes 4@S an easier contract|pg||
nt|fabsayc: neither is very good|pg||
nt|gambit: yes, 3D, and the QH, extras given his pass, but monster, No.....a couiple modest redeeming features, |pg||
nt|mcarroll: On Board 1 I see they did prefer the Moysian @S fit rather than @Cs and it cost 11 imps|pg||
nt|caitlin: they play constructive so 2@S 8-10 HCP|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3@S is not forward going, but Jurek still tempted|pg||
nt|mcarroll: and 3@S is preemptive not constructive|pg||
nt|caitlin: yes some play 1@S 2@S 3@S stop|pg||
nt|caitlin: I personally don't like it|pg||
nt|mcarroll: as there is no entry to Dummy, on a @D lead to take advantage of a discard on the @HA 4 @S goes down|pg||
nt|raghavan: S is trying to prevent EW going to 3H and later if he ventured - may be doubled - Of course he does not know N hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: that does not automatically beat hand|pg||
nt|mcarroll: And there are slow @C losers|pg||
mb|d|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: nice hand for fit showing|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: even with both K's working hard to see 10 tricks|pg||
nt|caitlin: wow|pg||
nt|caitlin: given their lead there is no reason to push to 4|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: he cant have a better hand|pg||
nt|raghavan: We cannot find fault with N for his bidding|pg||
nt|caitlin: well if they play 1S 2S 3S stop we can|pg||
nt|starkist: darn need to play xfer lead doubles|pg||
pc|c2|nt|sharynr: 4@S might have been reached (and made)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but i think green should have tried 3@D in that case|pg||
nt|mittmouse: this is a steal im surprised green didnt bid 3d then hanna would bid 4s |pg||
nt|sharynr: but as is the case when both sides make a major suit game, the bidding might not have stopped at the 4 level|pg||
nt|gavin: funny to balance your opponents from 1D into 3NT|pg||
nt|caitlin: how true|pg||
nt|raghavan: N has maximum for his 2S bid|pg||
nt|glen: the 2/1 way to make a 3 card limit raise - 1NT (forcing/semi-forcing), then 3 of the major|pg||
pc|c6|nt|capercliff: good things H's are 3-3 or this would be really ugly|pg||
nt|capercliff: cancel that|pg||
nt|capercliff: even I could make 4 tricks with this @h suit:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: only in no trump|pg||
nt|mcarroll: lol|pg||
nt|caitlin: what out what you ask for|pg||
nt|gavin: very interesting hand|pg||
nt|gavin: czyz will have an easy time finding hte club shift|pg||
pc|c8|nt|fabsayc: seems down if defense passive|pg||
nt|lestergold: e/w have stayed low nough to make  a plus|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|gavin: the king of spades asks his partner to unblock an honor or give him upside down count|pg||
nt|caitlin: he showed it with constructive raise|pg||
pc|d5|nt|gambit: this will go down quickly |pg||
nt|gambit: as a plus |pg||
nt|fabsayc: i predict slowly|pg||
nt|gambit: you know David? Methodical |pg||
nt|gavin: when south gets in with the first diamond|pg||
nt|gavin: he will undoubtedly lead a spade|pg||
nt|gavin: since his partner lead the king, thats their power lead he knows that he has a GREAT spade suit|pg||
nt|gavin: hard to know if he has 5 or 6|pg||
nt|lestergold: bad spade break and poor communications with dummy would make higher level contracts very precarious|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|nt|gambit: 3-2 diamonds would work losing 1 diamond, 3 spades|pg||
nt|rlebi: 11 tricks now|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: some problems now for declarer|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the simplest solution, finesse the club|pg||
nt|caitlin: he has to|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|fabsayc: brave play, minimizing the loss|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|lestergold: why rush with ace of dim?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: was a mistake but afraid hanna would draw partners lone trump|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|caitlin: then how back to hand?|pg||
nt|caitlin: finessing @Ds against North??|pg||
pc|d4|nt|sharynr: i am sure NS would have pushed to th5 5-level|pg||
nt|caitlin: lucky spade position|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|mittmouse: look at what that fit showing jump did for graingers hand he would have bid to the 5 level if necessary|pg||
nt|lestergold: well had Hanna tried 8s it would have been very revealing!!|pg||
nt|mittmouse: carruthers must have missed a spot|pg||
nt|starkist: teasing @d10 play|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|c3|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this is why i hesistated with my comment, was not at all clear|pg||
nt|gavin: that was an odd play|pg||
nt|fabsayc: diamond lead would have made this tougher, but i think still makes|pg||
nt|glen: yes, the @D lead head towards a forcing defense|pg||
pc|sA|nt|glen: the idea being to play @Ds at all chances|pg||
pc|s7|nt|lestergold: contract still in jeapordy tho|pg||
pc|s8|nt|gavin: and darren playing the queen of diamonds was bad also|pg||
nt|gavin: only lying to his partner|pg||
nt|caitlin: this has not been a lucky 3rd or beginning of 4th set for Carruthers team|pg||
nt|gowdy: a new variation  pitch a winner on a loser   but maintain control|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sJ|nt|starkist: didn't he have to duck as the only hope?|pg||
nt|mittmouse: lucky for him partner didnt have a black ace|pg||
nt|bbramley: he had 2 hopes: @HAJ8 with west, or a @D entry with west|pg||
pc|h4|nt|fabsayc: another mistake by declarer|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg||
nt|caitlin: I am sure many have TV's on for NHL|pg||
nt|caitlin: Wolpert should wonder why Green took @CA and returned spade|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|nt|caitlin: a chance to finesse|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is a gruelling event|pg||
pc|h3|nt|caitlin: I think they are all getting very tired|pg||
nt|fabsayc: it was down if that was play|pg||
nt|caitlin: as is our great operator Karen|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|caitlin: an overtrick|pg||
nt|fabsayc: finesse gains nothing, as can always elope the small trumps|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|c7|nt|gavin: id put money that this is no worse than a push for them|pg||
nt|gavin: hard to believe that grainger and korbel , easily the most aggressive pair in the event are not in a game on this hand|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: diamond lead versus 3nt by east after 2c opening?|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|c5|pc|d8|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SQT62HQTDA543CAT7,SJ75H9732DKQ862C4,SA943HK654DJCQJ93,SK8HAJ8DT97CK8652|sv|e|mb|1D!|an|2+|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|r!|an|3 !hs|nt|thegarve:  in the last set they opened a 4 count and it lead to a lovely three suit progressive squeeze to lose 17 IMPs|pg||
nt|jtr: What South?|pg||
nt|thegarve:  third seta favourable|pg||
nt|jtr: 2@h then raise @ss?|pg||
nt|ady: Fleisher may be ambitious here|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|kit: note that Rodwell opens vul here, proving that Fleisher had to be right|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: 4@s is tough, lots of work to do|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: 4@s plays ok|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: He heard me again|pg||
pc|dT|nt|jtr: Tough enough Adam, you are right|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Kamil asks about the lead. Meck: "in this situation it's a standard lead"|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Kamil asks about @d 2 - Rodwell: "upside down, typically attitude"|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|s3|pc|d7|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg||
nt|ady: after ruff    trump switch|pg||
nt|jtr: with @cs like this he probably needs the @h finesse|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Kamil studying his hand - leans back - thinking|pg||
pc|h4|nt|thegarve:  going for the J@h onside but knowing the 4-3 H layout that is tough|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
nt|ady: plays another club  suppose heart and 2nd club ruff    |pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: No way to make now I think|pg||
nt|thegarve:  not sure if he planned the whole play|pg||
nt|jtr: Probably not if he is thinking after the expected has happened|pg||
nt|ady: was alwasy  going to  be diffuclt    8 card fit   and very tight game values|pg||
nt|ady: difficult|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Not clear this was expected - Meck might have had @h A|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|jtr: True Jan|pg||
nt|thegarve:  A@s and another would work this time as West can be kept off play|pg||
nt|jtr: Doesnt leave much for Rod though|pg||
nt|ady: if Kamil waited one round before entering n/s  could have stopped lower|pg||
nt|jtr: @s|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: With the way diamonds have been played, Rod could have the Q, although even then wouldn't have much, but they don't require much to open |pg||
nt|jtr: K maybe|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: @c ruff now|pg||
nt|jtr: 10 count first at red?|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 3@s in the CR only|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rod has his cards on the table and is thinking about things - I couldn't tell from how his hand was sorted what he was planning to play, although the club 2 was on one end of his ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: hand|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|s5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|d8|pc|s4|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Not sufficient entries to do everything now I think|pg||
nt|thegarve:  the Q@c  was not needed before the @H play|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|s2|pc|h7|pg||
nt|jtr: This was a very complex hand and i dont think we should criticise Kamil too much|pg||
nt|jtr: If @cs were 4-2 or better he was fine|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Yes, this was a really tough hand to make|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Kamil shaking his head. "sorry" Meck: "it's okay, good about not wasting time, we save it for when we need it|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|sK|pc|d5|pc|h9|pg||
nt|thegarve:  yes, options in all four suits at trick 1 are difficult|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|mc|9|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SQT62HQTDA543CAT7,SJ75H9732DKQ862C4,SA943HK654DJCQJ93,SK8HAJ8DT97CK8652|sv|e|nt|capercliff: this 4333 9 count is an invite in my book|pg||
nt|gavin: can still find spade shift|pg||
nt|caitlin: they haven't played this board yet|pg||
nt|raghavan: Give credit to E playing small Spades. |pg||
nt|fabsayc: but i think he unblocked hearts before club ruff|pg||
nt|raghavan: and not SJ|pg||
nt|bbramley: but still no reason to duck 2nd @H in either case|pg||
mb|p|nt|starkist: true|pg||
mb|1D|nt|capercliff: what to bid...|pg||
nt|caitlin: board 4 OR smart to be in 3@D making|pg||
nt|caitlin: 22|pg||
nt|shals: intersting all over the scoe bd|pg||
nt|caitlin: Karen how did you land up operating in Penticton if you are American?|pg||
nt|glen: for a close final quarter, this table is moving quickly, which is nice for everybody watching|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: not for me :)|pg||
nt|starkist: throwing away down tricks|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|capercliff: 2@h is never enough these days|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: British Columbia|pg||
nt|glen: true|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i guess "dont watch" wont work|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no try?|pg||
mb|1N|nt|gavin: monster super accept for cz|pg||
nt|gavin: tough to avoid slam on this hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: joey cant have side ace?|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: its on a finesse but they have so many wasted points|pg||
mb|2C!|an|invitational checkback|nt|fabsayc: but they always bid 3nt|pg||
nt|capercliff: how does everyone feel about 3N?|pg||
nt|sharynr: Silver made 5@d on the second hand, for 8 imps|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: tell us later:)|pg||
nt|rlebi: no take A no get A|pg||
nt|rlebi: @s|pg||
nt|starkist: risky to bid on|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Silver laughed when he saw dummy: "and hope you make it partner" |pg||
nt|fabsayc: guess that answers my question :)|pg||
mb|2S|nt|fabsayc: so i like to have a semblance of a side entry for 3 preempts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3nt is "normal"|pg||
nt|gavin: ok obviously not as tough as i thought|pg||
nt|caitlin: wow|pg||
nt|gavin: i guess 2nt was 20-22|pg||
nt|caitlin: Board 1 OR Silver bid 1@S over 1@H overcall......did Carruthers assume he had 5?|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: on the bidding declarer probably should finess through N for @SJ to cater for a 4-1 break - which does not cost in this instance|pg||
nt|capercliff: 3@h does jam the auction nicely, you know if you double partner is bound to bid 4m|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is better than 22|pg||
nt|gavin: so darren could see it wasnt going to be great even opposite a super accept|pg||
nt|gavin: i agree|pg||
nt|shals: wouldn't you bid 2c then 2n?|pg||
nt|caitlin: I would|pg||
nt|gavin: yeah, opposite a passed hand|pg||
mb|3S|nt|fabsayc: 6@D is a reasonable spot with the bonus of making|pg||
nt|caitlin: 2@H will make|pg||
nt|glen: this setups a possible @H discard, and a lot depends on how declarer places the cards|pg||
nt|bbramley: good cash|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: 2@H makes|pg||
nt|caitlin: loses 1@H 2@S 2@C|pg||
nt|lestergold: 6c makes as played by west|pg||
nt|caitlin: very tough to get to|pg||
nt|gowdy: Karen  if there is a break in the action tell Green that I shot 78 today   Thanks :)|pg||
nt|caitlin: hey Gowdy awesome:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|sharynr: but both bd 20 and 22 will swing the match the other way, i predict|pg||
nt|caitlin: 6D makes 7|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but assuming a direct raise of diamonds was forcing, this is not a strong sequence |pg||
nt|caitlin: run clubs get rid of 2 hearts ruff a heart|pg||
nt|caitlin: all up to North to shoot for it or not|pg||
nt|caitlin: don't love my J9 of @D but hey...life isn't perfect|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: spades 2-2 so this "should" not present problems|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c2|nt|shals: wow spades|pg||
nt|fabsayc: my par 3 score|pg||
nt|caitlin: and I know nada about golf except a) scores b) I love Tiger:)|pg||
nt|glen: for us seeing all 4 hands, use @D K to discard @H, ace and another @H ruff, draw trumps|pg||
nt|fabsayc: simplest approach is ruffing heart hook|pg||
nt|fabsayc: even if it loses defense can not hurt you|pg||
nt|glen: @H lead would have set it if rest of D okay|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|mcarroll: I would agree with 3NT|pg||
nt|capercliff: he also knows now it was based on 6 card suit so rates to have a singelton somewhere|pg||
nt|caitlin: 2@H was a FSF even tho a forcing auction|pg||
nt|caitlin: letting pd know game is there |pg||
pc|dJ|nt|fabsayc: maybe, but that is not the only way to play 2@H|pg||
nt|gavin: im not a fan of trump lead w/ xxx in clubs|pg||
pc|d7|nt|gavin: thk u need to be more aggressive|pg||
nt|fabsayc: heart king seems very normal lead|pg||
nt|gavin: when you dont have controls in reversers opening suit|pg||
nt|shals: 6 do you think could be made?|pg||
nt|shals: I guess|pg||
nt|caitlin: sure|pg||
nt|caitlin: that may NOT be a push|pg||
nt|shals: probably not|pg||
nt|shals: 2c might have helped|pg||
nt|shals: toobad|pg||
pc|dA|nt|fabsayc: not in Canada|pg||
nt|caitlin: good point made: what doesn't Wolpert bid 3@D instead of 2@H|pg||
nt|gavin: i think 2H they use as their slowdown bid|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: really??|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|nt|lestergold: the only lead to hold this to 4|pg||
nt|glen: establishing 1@H, 2@C, 1@D|pg||
pc|s3|nt|gavin: it says ive got garbage and i will likely pass ur next bid|pg||
nt|gavin: thats why cyz had to bid more than 3C |pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|caitlin: it is 100% forcing|pg||
nt|gavin: cause he was afraid of his partner passing|pg||
nt|caitlin: ty Gavin|pg||
pc|h4|nt|fabsayc: aha he must have pitched a heart on the diamond|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: not sure how the play went for the last two tricks|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: sorry :(|pg||
pc|h8|nt|caitlin: now diamonds|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|caitlin: I thought it was doubled???|pg||
nt|lestergold: club ruff to be found buty i doubt it|pg||
nt|caitlin: and the obvious lead|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Jim wants to know what you did on the back 9?|pg||
nt|lestergold: have to go for dinner so bye all for now |pg||
nt|caitlin: bye and thanks:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: lol:)|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|capercliff: ive only moved away a couple years ago, what else has changed!!??:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: declarer is basically fishing before tackling spades|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|s4|nt|sharynr: i personally think Hanna should pass 3@D|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|sharynr: or bid 2@S right away|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|s5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|h7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c6|mc|8|pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1SJT42HQJ852DKT3C3,S86HDA9872CAJ9874,SKQ75HAK764DJ65C5,SA93HT93DQ4CKQT62|sv|b|nt|jtr: One of those hands were you have not done much wrong but feel sick when you go down|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: It happens to me every other hand|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 5@c for EW, and 3 or 4@s for NS|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Yes, he does look as if he's unhappy about it|pg||
mb|2C!|mb|d|nt|jtr: And the ones inbetween i am dummy:)|pg||
mb|2D!|an|ART, asking|nt|bigtrain: 6+C|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@D asks|pg||
nt|thegarve:  so flat board in 3@s and 4@s -1|pg||
nt|kit: Rodwell will certainly compete to 5@C opposite a known 6-bagger|pg||
nt|jtr: Needs a @s lead to beat 6|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Likely if they come near 6...|pg||
nt|thegarve:  might double 5@c|pg||
nt|jtr: Who?|pg||
mb|3C|nt|jtr: The person with no tricks or the person with one?:)|pg||
mb|3D|an|natural|nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Michael Rosenberg|pg||
nt|thegarve:  they'll bid to 4M and may think that they are being stolen from in 5@c|pg||
nt|jtr: Mind you, after 3@c....|pg||
nt|scotty: hi all|pg||
mb|3H|nt|thegarve:  hi|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Hi Michael :)|pg||
nt|kit: Kamil will now bid 3@H, and the question is how high will Fleisher compete|pg||
nt|ady: should be highly competitive|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 4+@D although without comp it would promise 5|pg||
nt|jtr: Thanks Michael  I can go to bed now|pg||
mb|5C|nt|bigtrain: hi michael|pg||
nt|thegarve:  take the great man's seat|pg||
nt|ady: hi Michael|pg||
nt|kit: now the key decision|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 5@h is only -1 or -2 depending on declarer's @d guessing skills|pg||
nt|scotty: N-S have a successful save here - as long as they are going to find the lead against 6@c!|pg||
mb|5H|mb|6C|nt|kit: it is so often wrong to bid 5 over 5, but not this time|pg||
nt|jtr: He should now|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 6@C next door|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: They should find the lead|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|jtr: and?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: What will Hamman lead?|pg||
nt|thegarve:  6@c must indicate a major suit void|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: perhaps better bid 6 for insurance|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: Ha Got you that time Adam:)|pg||
nt|scotty: Tough not to lead a heart|pg||
pc|sK|nt|kit: I think he should find spade lead after the 61C call|pg||
nt|jtr: wd|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Well done|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: ROdwell: good luck|pg||
nt|thegarve:  he wired in - well done|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Hamman led the K@H|pg||
nt|jtr: and again!|pg||
nt|scotty: Very well done|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Hamman didn't find the lead, so a huge swing for Fleisher|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|mc|11|nt|kit: hoping opponents try to cash the wrong thing|pg||
nt|scotty: Flesisher's first blood of the set is a big cut|pg||
nt|jtr: Great Bridge and i say night night|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: gn David|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Thx David|pg||
nt|jtr: Or nite nite to the Usa:)|pg||
nt|ady: good night|pg||
nt|jtr: Enjoy people|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Fleisher: "good lead Michael" Meck: "sorry, we can beat them a trick"|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 17 IMPs to Fleisher|pg||
nt|scotty: On 21, they went down in THREE spades in Closed Room so flat|pg||
nt|thegarve:  that's two desreved 17 IMP swings of their 53 IMP total|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: It was a bit easier to lead a @s in this auction|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Meck is out of the room. Fleisher to Rod: "that was the scariest hand from my point of view - I thought you were just going to make it ... if he had the J of @ds" Rod: "I certainly ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: hoped he could make it"|pg||
pg||
qx|c23|st||md|1SJT42HQJ852DKT3C3,S86HDA9872CAJ9874,SKQ75HAK764DJ65C5,SA93HT93DQ4CKQT62|sv|b|nt|capercliff: are both pairs playing a 15-17 nt?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i like plan A, that was an ugly hand|pg||
nt|gavin: np|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is Gavin Wolpert|pg||
nt|caitlin: welcome:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: forcing but weak caitlin, then 3@C would be limited reverse and not forcing|pg||
nt|fabsayc: do you think Mr Kokish will visit the open room|pg||
nt|shals: should we expcet him/|pg||
nt|caitlin: if so 110 isn't right score|pg||
nt|gowdy: thanks  nice job|pg||
nt|lestergold: my pleasure Caitlin|pg||
nt|bbramley: tough to give up on a beat|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: potentially 0 cover cards|pg||
nt|sharynr: A unusual weak 2 by Hanna|pg||
nt|susieq: that's a pretty heavy 2@S bid nv|pg||
nt|gavin: ty|pg||
nt|fabsayc: which is why Jurek did not try for slam over 4@D|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he might have been facing xxxx in diamonds for example|pg||
nt|shals: expect ie|pg||
nt|caitlin: just ask Eric to go to Peter Chung King and he will come to ANY table:)|pg||
nt|shals: ahh|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not doubled|pg||
nt|caitlin: great response by Jim:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: that is East Jim Green|pg||
nt|glen: np, 1st priority is to get right result in|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: :)|pg||
nt|glen: 2nd priority is to get Korbel to update his bridge blog|pg||
nt|glen: with actual play of hand|pg||
nt|rlebi: quite a few tricks available|pg||
nt|susieq: he's got some hands from the Cavendish in Vegas to put in as well before he gets to this :)|pg||
mb|1D|an|could be canape|nt|glen: Korbel alerts pass of 2NT to mean "i'm not blogging this hand"|pg||
mb|1H|nt|bbramley: opening 3@H would have blown out N/S|pg||
nt|starkist: I don't like to have 7 for wk 2|pg||
mb|d!|an|cards|nt|caitlin: btw Mohmad Ali is at the NHL game wearing a Red Wing Jersey:) *IMPORTANT information:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i have advertising space available on my chest also :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: anybody know what 4@C is|pg||
nt|glen: well, we can't use the G word can we|pg||
nt|mittmouse: bart do u think its right in a long match where people are tired not to claim and let them work to try to beat it|pg||
nt|bbramley: agree about 7|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: silver asking for the same dummy this time|pg||
mb|4H|nt|sharynr: i guess Jim has seen his partner's weak 2's before|pg||
nt|caitlin: sorry won't go for what Ali's goes for:)|pg||
nt|gavin: go pittsburgh!|pg||
nt|caitlin: :)|pg||
nt|gavin: im in sweden for about 7 more hours, no hockey on normal TV here :( |pg||
nt|caitlin: we will keep you up to date Gavin|pg||
nt|caitlin: I have Tom in the lobby letting me know all:)|pg||
nt|gavin: looks like down a couple in 3 diamonds, ew can make 3C|pg||
nt|shals: what does that indicate?|pg||
nt|caitlin: raise in diamonds|pg||
nt|shals: ty|pg||
nt|caitlin: limit|pg||
nt|caitlin: our vugraph operator, Karen, says it wasn't doubled|pg||
nt|gowdy: againd 4 @S and a minor|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4 or 5?|pg||
nt|caitlin: 4+|pg||
nt|caitlin: Korbel thinking of raising|pg||
mb|5C|nt|gavin: i think its a mixed raise , we will see based on norths response|pg||
nt|caitlin: sorry I thought S doubled again and it was left in|pg||
nt|bbramley: george, not in general|pg||
mb|5H|nt|starkist: worked out well for him|pg||
mb|6C|nt|raghavan: Ellen and Martin - what will N play now after SQ - will he play club small??|pg||
nt|fabsayc: probably win and shift to a club, although that does not look hopeful|pg||
nt|caitlin: if he overtakes that is his only hope|pg||
nt|fabsayc: perhaps a heart better|pg||
nt|caitlin: why Martin?|pg||
nt|mcarroll: I think that is what he is thinking about, I would opt forsmall@C|pg||
nt|fabsayc: attacking communication|pg||
nt|fabsayc: it could be the Green convention|pg||
nt|glen: yes, Green convention, asking for aces|pg||
nt|glen: 4@H likely showed 0 or 3 aces (E suspects 3)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: is fine if you don't do it also on garbage hands|pg||
nt|gavin: perfect!|pg||
nt|shals: yep|pg||
nt|caitlin: asking re minor which can't be clubs|pg||
nt|glen: 5@C confirms all aces, and now W has good playing value if E has the right hand opposite|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: I wonder whom you are rooting for Gavin?:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: interesting hand|pg||
nt|gavin: pittsburgh !!! oh my brother|pg||
nt|shals: good stop I think|pg||
nt|caitlin: we shall see......not so easy|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: and which is more important?|pg||
pc|hK|nt|capercliff: 4@h is a good choice |pg||
nt|capercliff: normal with a stiff honor|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Good Contract|pg||
nt|sharynr: anyone know what 2Nt asked for|pg||
nt|caitlin: makes sense|pg||
nt|starkist: what a steal this was|pg||
nt|bbramley: and he's going to make 2@H|pg||
pc|h3|nt|capercliff: @s lead will hold it to 10|pg||
nt|fabsayc: may have been singleton?|pg||
nt|caitlin: Pittsburgh on a power play|pg||
nt|shals: no stoppers in clubs for nt|pg||
nt|caitlin: that would be too lucky|pg||
nt|fabsayc: really ugly lead problem for hanna|pg||
nt|gowdy: may lose 2 @S here|pg||
pc|h2|nt|gowdy: not now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: oh my|pg||
nt|glen: and only a ruff can beat this 7NT|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|rlebi: unusual but effective auction|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|fabsayc: i don't think this auction calls for trump lead either|pg||
nt|capercliff: i wouldnt think so|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: I caught all the play on that one :)|pg||
nt|glen: lol :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: all 139 spectators are sworn to not tell roland|pg||
nt|rlebi: 16 imp diff now|pg||
pc|c5|nt|gavin: wheres the contract that consents if detroit wins my bro wins ? ill sign |pg||
nt|fabsayc: Jxx and Jx are ugly for trump lead|pg||
nt|rlebi: 8 boards - 2 imps a board until a playoff|pg||
pc|c2|nt|fabsayc: but is hard to see why a spade is best|pg||
nt|caitlin: nada tricks for NT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is this right??|pg||
nt|mcarroll: K worked better|pg||
nt|raghavan: fell in the trap- 2Club tricks|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well now a heart seems clear|pg||
nt|caitlin: it's right he played North for KQ tight|pg||
nt|gowdy: tuff lead     this looks normal|pg||
nt|caitlin: what else to lead?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: pass right to dummy|pg||
nt|caitlin: underlead a heart to stiff @HK??|pg||
nt|caitlin: can't be or he would have clubs:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: a few|pg||
nt|fabsayc: heart or club ace were clearly alternatives, also with their losing cases|pg||
nt|caitlin: low heart|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hanna thinking of winning clearing trump|pg||
nt|caitlin: ???|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he cant do that, would have no chance then|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|d2|nt|caitlin: :) so blood is thicker than hockey|pg||
nt|fabsayc: duck again looks best|pg||
pc|d6|nt|sharynr: well my predictions stink....bd 20 open room in 4@D DBL|pg||
nt|gavin: its amazing how often ducking to keep control in trumps is right when they break bad and you have length w/ the ace|pg||
nt|gavin: both as defender or declarer|pg||
nt|gavin: unless you clearly need to clear trumps ASAP , its better not to win your ace until the last chance|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or 3@D|pg||
nt|starkist: then a shoot off|pg||
nt|fabsayc: surely not two overtricks|pg||
nt|fabsayc: just making|pg||
nt|rlebi: sudden death|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: typo|pg||
nt|bbramley: all the same impwise, for making 110, 140 or 170|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: fixed it|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|fabsayc: yes very imaginative by jurek|pg||
nt|raghavan: He wants D|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|caitlin: declarer has to play diamonds|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2SKT85HJ84DQ95C862,SAQ93HAT5DA86CA74,S64H97DKJT2CKQT93,SJ72HKQ632D743CJ5|sv|o|mb|1C!|an|STR, ART, F|mb|1N!|an|minors|nt|mtvesuvius: 3NT or 4@h are pretty easy|pg||
nt|scotty: Perennial 4M vs. 3N issue here|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 1NT = Minors|pg||
mb|d!|an|6+|nt|bigtrain: X = 5+ |pg||
nt|bigtrain: ok 6  :)|pg||
nt|ady: can make 4@H   but 3NT  is a make|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Meck wrote 6 :)|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: lol, just say it was a slip of your keyboard, Walter :)|pg||
nt|scotty: If North had @hJx, he'd probably score it after his overcall.  Declarer knows at least 9 cards in minors|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Also, Meck wrote "if 8+ he could not have a 5 card Major"|pg||
nt|kit: the 1NT overcall will make the play in 4@H easier, although I imagine he would take the double spade hook anyway|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|an|6-7, 5+ !hs|nt|bigtrain: i bet any amount of money without a black jack he woulkd make the same bid  :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: Fleisher "prefers" 2@d with equal length, trying to get a @d lead|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Although Kit, the 1NT overcall could be a reason to play for Tx@s in the North hand|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Meck wrote "should be 6-7 with 5+ @hs"|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: it could be, but that would not be percentage|pg||
pc|c2|nt|mtvesuvius: True, but it does make that a valid concern at that point|pg||
nt|scotty: meckwell have a strong tendency to play in their known 5-3 major fit|pg||
nt|kit: actually declarer is also concerned about South having Jxxx of hearts|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Yes, he may finesse the T@H also|pg||
nt|kit: and if he does, then he may be short on entries for the double spade hook|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rod asks what other bids Kamil could make over 1@c Fleisher "he could DBL for Majors or bid 1NT for minors or bid naturally"|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|nt|thegarve:  will play 9@h to tempt him on first round|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|kit: the 2 of clubs lead tells Rodwell what the minor-suit shape is|pg||
nt|kit: what difference does Kamil's heart spot make?|pg||
nt|ady: bit short of entries to finesse 10@H   and later finesse spades twice    especially if hearts were 4-1   would be in difficulty|pg||
nt|thegarve:  if he thinks its a 2254 shape may consider J9 doubleton|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Right, although the defense hasn't attacked @d yet|pg||
nt|scotty: Problem with finessing @h10, which I'm sure he'd like to do, is that he is awkwardly placed anyway, with trumps 4-1|pg||
nt|kit: Rodwell shouldn't play for hearts 4-1, since if they are spades will be 3-3 and he will definitely need 2 finesses with the entry problems|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
nt|scotty: Not clear, if N has @SKxx and stiff heart then no problem|pg||
nt|kit: that's true|pg||
nt|thegarve:  may play q@s from hand to guarantee the @s position for a @d discard|pg||
nt|kit: maybe that is right play finesse heart, then assuming it wins ace of hearts, and then if hearts were 4-2 queen of spades and later take the marked finesse|pg||
nt|kit: sorry, menat if hearts 3-2|pg||
nt|scotty: But if @sQ is ducked?  Just go home and cry?|pg||
nt|kit: and if hearts 4-1, same queen of spades play|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: That would work, but loses to Jx@h with North|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell: "I'm sorry" |pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: If Q@s is ducked, then @s to the Jack and later the marked finesse|pg||
nt|scotty: That's fine if trumps break.  If trumps 4-1, you need N with @sK|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rod: "well I'd better do something here"|pg||
nt|kit: so maybe it doesn't work -- if South has K10xx of spades, he can duck the queen of spades|pg||
nt|scotty: So Kit was probably right with his statement long ago, that should play for 3-2 trumps|pg||
nt|thegarve:  Zia's tip always play a 9 - but he's sitting South |pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|nt|mtvesuvius: Yes, then a @s to the queen and @s to the jack back|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pg||
nt|kit: Well, he got it "wrong" -- now we shall see what happens|pg||
pc|hA|pc|c3|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s7|nt|kit: now Fleisher must duck!|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|h6|pc|c8|pc|c7|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|mtvesuvius: Right, that would beat it|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s9|nt|mtvesuvius: Defense never touched @d here|pg||
nt|kit: shame Fleisher missed that position|pg||
mc|10|nt|mtvesuvius: Yes, that would have been a great play|pg||
pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2SKT85HJ84DQ95C862,SAQ93HAT5DA86CA74,S64H97DKJT2CKQT93,SJ72HKQ632D743CJ5|sv|o|nt|capercliff: routine 4@s, @d lead will hold it to 11|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Open Room replicated the 1NT-3NT auction on board 6|pg||
nt|capercliff: interesting, both not wanting to miss an early Vul game|pg||
nt|sharynr: but they did|pg||
nt|gavin: his low heart play would work any time hearts were 3-2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: north forced to give east a spade trick|pg||
nt|raghavan: 4H + 2C+1D\|pg||
nt|gowdy: ruff a @C draw trump|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes john|pg||
nt|susieq: the cards are definitely going East-West this set|pg||
mb|1C|an|strong, 18+ if balanced|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 2@H both majors?|pg||
nt|capercliff: E thinks his hand is too good for an old fashioned 3@d bid?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: yes shows both majors|pg||
nt|gavin: he needed to keep his ace of hearts in his hand for an entry to draw trumps after he leads up towards his jack|pg||
nt|fabsayc: so always makes if declarer plays right|pg||
nt|raghavan: a part score deal I hope EW do not jump to game in a Major|pg||
nt|chorush: there was no flannery. what would he be upset about?|pg||
nt|starkist: chugging contest|pg||
mb|1D!|an|0-7|nt|fabsayc: in that case 2@S by east can be natural or artificial, you need to discuss a defense|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Is S worth an immediate 4@S?|pg||
nt|gavin: very tough hand will be interesting to see the line in the other room|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 10-1 somebody bids game|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Obviously he thinks so|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe too strong|pg||
nt|caitlin: 4@S AND 4@H are both feasible|pg||
nt|gavin: unlikely he will leave them there|pg||
nt|gavin: 7-4 white vs red|pg||
nt|caitlin: Green does not have to accept transfer|pg||
nt|raghavan: E will reject transfer and bid 3S|pg||
nt|rlebi: wrong sided for @Ss already|pg||
nt|rlebi: better stay low for a plus|pg||
nt|starkist: canoe race|pg||
mb|1N!|an|18-20|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 5@D in big trouble|pg||
nt|capercliff: yes 5@c is better, best defence can get 800|pg||
nt|capercliff: must be a @h lead for 800|pg||
nt|capercliff: anything else is 500|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Hard to lead a @H fromS, @S the obvious lead|pg||
nt|fabsayc: club ruff and heart heart switch works also|pg||
nt|sharynr: i dont believe you can gain a trick by claiming if it is impossible to  make it....and in that defense they could not make a mistake?|pg||
nt|caitlin: best to lead trump|pg||
nt|starkist: snowball fight|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|sharynr: will any director out there agree?|pg||
nt|rlebi: sry, dreaming here|pg||
nt|glen: could declarer draw all the trumps and pick up @Ds?|pg||
nt|glen: i.e. just lose to the @D ace if guesses suit right|pg||
nt|rlebi: yes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3@S presumably no singleton and extras, and for that hand he is close to minimum|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: not clear, but more likely daniel ducked heart|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hoping declarer would play the 9|pg||
nt|caitlin: or S and switch|pg||
nt|gowdy: coffee time |pg||
nt|fabsayc: not so fast they may bid slam|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he needs three diamonds so percentage is finesse of queen|pg||
mb|2H|nt|capercliff: yes that works as well Martin|pg||
nt|capercliff: no doub!!!!|pg||
nt|sharynr: I guess that is what happened martin, since daniel apologized|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: must be joking|pg||
mb|3N|nt|capercliff: guess he didnt think he was taking even 1 @s trick|pg||
nt|fabsayc: that was the problem with 4@S, did not invite partner to participate|pg||
nt|capercliff: well he did open|pg||
nt|caitlin: brb...barbecue going:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: or at least try for it|pg||
nt|gowdy: 3 S  strong H raise|pg||
mb|4H|nt|caitlin: if Hanna is going to bid it should be 4@S|pg||
nt|glen: 4@S = he skipped a @H cuebid, since minimum for 3@S|pg||
nt|rlebi: he didnt bid 4@s,did he?|pg||
nt|glen: the question is whether he plays serious 3NT or not|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he might have based on hand overall minimum|pg||
nt|glen: i.e. EW|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: 3@S was expected|pg||
nt|caitlin: a splinter with 4+ hearts|pg||
nt|gowdy: no 3S artifical|pg||
nt|caitlin: oh|pg||
nt|gowdy: smolen|pg||
nt|caitlin: smolen?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not a splinter, can be balanced or singleton spade|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or perhaps unspecified splinter|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2NT asks for a second suit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: just in case partner has both majors|pg||
nt|rlebi: not too many imps gonna swing on this one|pg||
mb|p|nt|gambit: trump switch?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe heart to king now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: many ways to play that bid|pg||
nt|rlebi: running low on boards|pg||
mb|p|pc|cK|nt|fabsayc: NV vs vul, shows 8 major cards and a lot of hope :)|pg||
nt|capercliff: from N's perspective his partner is weak for 4@s|pg||
nt|raghavan: If at all I have to bid - I will bid 4S - He has 2 Spades but no guarentee that E will have 2 Hearts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: serious 3nt would help a lot on this specific auction|pg||
pc|c5|nt|fabsayc: well not sure what turner signal meant|pg||
nt|bbramley: will the bridge cops let them finish?|pg||
nt|starkist: flash suggested tree climb good for that area|pg||
nt|rlebi: there is a precedent for that|pg||
pc|c2|nt|fabsayc: hughes knows the entries wrong for trump leads|pg||
nt|gavin: yeah i think a trump lead on the go was best from his hand|pg||
nt|gavin: when partner bids vul against not , its very likely he was bidding to make|pg||
nt|gambit: Diamond to the queen/ King...then trump from my good friend, David Turner |pg||
nt|caitlin: Welcome gambit (Cam French)|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is the Canadian Society of Commentators CSofC:)|pg||
nt|gambit: TY Caitlin great to see my compatriots competing|pg||
nt|caitlin: indeed|pg||
nt|rlebi: l'ecuyer could slow down the pace - while in the lead - run em out of time|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|nt|gowdy: yes 3 of the other major after 2c and a major response is artifical showing the strongest support raise |pg||
nt|fabsayc: here comes an imp|pg||
nt|bbramley: close matches automatically slow down at the end - and why not? when you KNOW it's close you grind out every imp|pg||
pc|hK|nt|gavin: in fact his only chance on this hand is to actually draw trumps then eventually guess clubs|pg||
nt|caitlin: end of first period 0-0 btw|pg||
nt|gavin: thx|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|h2|nt|gavin: he was hoping to see singleton jack of hearts so he could go over to dummy to lead clubs up twice (once with heart and once with diamond)|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hA|nt|gambit: what does he pitch? all cards have a value....|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
pc|hT|nt|fabsayc: so 1100 turned into 400|pg||
pc|c3|pc|hQ|nt|gavin: this play would have him make the contract if kjx of diamonds were onside|pg||
nt|gambit: club|pg||
nt|gambit: and spade exit|pg||
nt|gavin: the play doenst matter much at this point he will just lose 2 clubs|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|gavin: one goes on diamond ace and one ruffed|pg||
pc|s2|nt|raghavan: claim time|pg||
pc|s5|nt|bbramley: i think they should allow some extra time in the last stanza of a match|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|caitlin: spade now |pg||
nt|gavin: now if hughest plays a diamond declarer wont lose another club|pg||
nt|starkist: lets petition for it|pg||
nt|rlebi: the directors get hungry, thats what matters, doesn't it?|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|caitlin: he wouldn't|pg||
pc|sA|nt|capercliff: how did they make 3NT they will ask when comparing|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|cQ|pc|sJ|nt|bbramley: matches have run late forever - it's not a new thing|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3ST43H52DQ63CQJ643,SJ2H84DKJT875CT72,S76HAKJ973DA942CA,SAKQ985HQT6DCK985|sv|e|mb|1H|nt|kit: which would have punished Rodwell for what we now think was the wrong line of play|pg||
mb|1S|nt|scotty: Fleisher needed to stop and think there.  It's not giving too much away to think versus winning the king.  Only dangerous to think when you need to make a SMOOTH duck.  As it ...|pg||
nt|scotty: happens, this was just a contract-killing duck|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Kamil: "I'd like to say let me play the hands and it'd go faster, but I took an hour too ... and I went down"|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|kit: right -- if you are going to duck, you may have to do it quickly -- but once you decide to win the trick (quickly), then you might as well stop and think about it|pg||
nt|ady: heart part score|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|mtvesuvius: In this case it wouldn't matter since declarer was playing him for the K@S anyway|pg||
mb|2S|nt|bigtrain: interesting choice of the 1@S overcall -- he had the option of 2@S intermediate|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Kamil certainly won't sell to 2@S|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: He probably thought it was too good|pg||
nt|thegarve:  no inteference at the other table so played for 33@s|pg||
mb|p|nt|thegarve:  no inteference at the other table so played for 33@sand lost 10 IMPs|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Meck: "sounds like you 2 should have been partners"|pg||
nt|ady: spade part score     |pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 3@d is being played here in the CR|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: (by EW that is)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Fleisher asks "what would 2@s over 1@h have been here?" Meck: "preemptivish"|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|nt|scotty: 3@d by who?|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Rubin|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: It could be played by either side ironically|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Meck: "I was afraid to bid - every time I bid these guys double me and take me for a number"|pg||
pc|s6|nt|mtvesuvius: lol|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 500 and 200, yeah :)|pg||
nt|scotty: Trump shift gives declarer a problem.  He'd like to win in dummy to lead a heart, but then they get a ruff|pg||
nt|scotty: Since W can no longer overruff south|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Yes, although it can still make 2 always|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Declarer (double dummy) could draw trump and exit a small club, endplaying North|pg||
nt|scotty: Rodwell, may think N is 1-6-4-2 for the moment|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Fleisher can get his ruff but then he will be endplayed|pg||
nt|ady: can give heart ruff    but can still get end play|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg||
nt|scotty: Unusual endplay on both players|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|d5|pc|h3|pg||
nt|thegarve:  on a @d ruff and @s then a @c exit, North is endplayed to give the contract|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|c3|nt|mtvesuvius: Yes, they could choose who they wanted to endplay|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s9|pc|c4|nt|scotty: North played partner for a stiff heart|pg||
pc|d8|mc|8|nt|Vugraphu1: Kamil says he just lost track of the hearts - but he and Rodwell have agreed that on the lie of the cards it didn't matter, he could always make 2|pg||
pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3ST43H52DQ63CQJ643,SJ2H84DKJT875CT72,S76HAKJ973DA942CA,SAKQ985HQT6DCK985|sv|e|nt|sharynr: good result for E-W|pg||
nt|glen: for serious 3NT, see part 1 of the famous Gitelman articles: http://www.imp-bridge.nl/articles/2over1.htm|pg||
nt|starkist: it's 8pm there now|pg||
mb|1H|nt|fabsayc: but penticton closes at 10PM|pg||
nt|starkist: haha|pg||
nt|susieq: well, the casino stays open until 2pm|pg||
mb|2S!|an|intermediate|mb|p|nt|capercliff: 3@d here on the way?|pg||
nt|mcarroll: 4@S makeable|pg||
nt|capercliff: maybe is not forcing |pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe 4@D if fit showing|pg||
nt|gavin: interesting choice in the other room to bid garbage stayman with this hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 6@D or 6NT cold|pg||
nt|raghavan: should bid 2S |pg||
nt|mcarroll: Courtesy raise|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hanna may get shut out now|pg||
nt|mcarroll: and preemptive|pg||
nt|raghavan: 2S only |pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3@S or some mixed raise|pg||
nt|rlebi: they will open E hand at other table|pg||
nt|glen: sure, but 1 hour from now|pg||
nt|rlebi: 2:00 am?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes|pg||
nt|susieq: right yes|pg||
nt|starkist: 2pm for a casino is kinda strict|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: ive never rlly thought of doing it on a 3352|pg||
mb|d|nt|capercliff: yes even better|pg||
nt|fabsayc: seems just plain weird|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not really garbage stayman, intent is to pass any rebid|pg||
nt|caitlin: lucky entry to diamonds with a heart|pg||
nt|gavin: isnt that what garbage stayman is ? sry if i missspoke|pg||
nt|caitlin: well Gavin I call it that|pg||
nt|fabsayc: KCB will identify a possible loser, so no 7|pg||
nt|gavin: this is a baby slam|pg||
nt|gowdy: 3nt here is a brick   4 H is in some trouble|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is away from the city so does not disturb anybody|pg||
nt|susieq: 2am is too... here they never close|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N!|an|scramble|nt|gavin: and easy to avoid 7 as martin said|pg||
nt|gavin: but its definitely good practise to play 6NT|pg||
nt|gavin: 3 imps better and safer|pg||
nt|gavin: 2 imps|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|raghavan: good bid by N|pg||
nt|rlebi: big potential  swing hand here|pg||
nt|rlebi: very easy to get to nonmaking Slam |pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: 5@H too expensive a sacrifice|pg||
nt|raghavan: S should pass|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but 3nt only makes because diamonds blocked and club jack onside, single dummy 4@H looks better|pg||
nt|gowdy: @D blocked  le tthem set them up  3nt is on the J or no club lead|pg||
nt|starkist: we play this position 10-12, cowards|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: but I know many WC Cohen Gitelman Bergen etc who call it takeout of 2C|pg||
nt|fabsayc: complications now|pg||
nt|raghavan: oh???|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Oh oh|pg||
pc|hK|nt|sharynr: drury auction,, should be a making contract|pg||
nt|gavin: spec points out east hand so strong for 4M that maybe its too strong to open 1NT, tough decision|pg||
nt|rlebi: very easy|pg||
pc|h6|nt|capercliff: if the @c honors were split it wouldnt|pg||
nt|capercliff: but not realistic I think|pg||
pc|h5|nt|gavin: in the effort to getting to 6NT it would have been better for him to bid 3S|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|gavin: to hear from partner that they have a heart stopper|pg||
nt|gavin: he did what he did to find out about the king of spades i guess|pg||
nt|fabsayc: sorry i dont like any of these bids|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this auction calls for a trump lead|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but...|pg||
pc|hA|nt|fabsayc: garbage stayman to me is when you rebid 2@H|pg||
nt|fabsayc: jurek described an entirely different hand|pg||
nt|mcarroll: me neither|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not in slam so no finesse|pg||
pc|hT|nt|gavin: cool i just figured ur bidding stayman with garbage either way|pg||
nt|fabsayc: oops, hoping partner gets in|pg||
nt|bbramley: potential double-part-score swing here - joey avoided giving the 7th trick with a @D, but now declarer is home|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h3|nt|gavin: so why not include all options in garbage stayman|pg||
nt|fabsayc: SCORE|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d3|nt|mittmouse: hey sharyn im back|pg||
nt|fabsayc: usa1 robinson 116 fleisher 77|pg||
nt|gowdy: drawing trumps :)|pg||
nt|gowdy: now  no sweat|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|sharynr: welcome back|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welland 34 strul 30 in a pitchers duel|pg||
nt|fabsayc: am i alone in hating these irrelevant waits|pg||
nt|sharynr: no|pg||
nt|sharynr: are we stuck|pg||
nt|fabsayc: like gavin said, i dont agree with 6@D|pg||
nt|gavin: the problem that happened here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: unless 4@H can be a singleton, but that does not make sense|pg||
nt|gavin: was his partner didnt bid 2NT over 2D|pg||
nt|gavin: so he really has no idea how good his hearts are|pg||
pc|cT|nt|fabsayc: pittsburg|pg||
nt|gavin: i have complete sympathy in the auction he created for himself why he chose to end in 6D over 6NT|pg||
nt|gavin: i just think he should have constructed the auction better to help himself get to 6NT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 35 in majors with 9 count perhaps|pg||
pc|cA|nt|gavin: i guess some ppl dont play 2H is weak over 2D so if youre discussing garbage stayman , thats what you are talking about|pg||
nt|gavin: YES!!!!|pg||
nt|bbramley: 5 imps for making, and another imp if he manages an overtrick|pg||
pc|c5|nt|caitlin: NOOO!!|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s5|pc|dQ|nt|raghavan: not correct|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|fabsayc: good defense|pg||
pc|dT|nt|raghavan: Ruffing with SK is not correct now -@@|pg||
nt|raghavan: -2|pg||
nt|bbramley: where are the slams we saw last set? the fans want action!|pg||
pc|dA|pc|s8|nt|susieq: I admit that I'll be happy with a nice quiet set!|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|capercliff: E chose to rebid 2@h on brd 8|pg||
nt|capercliff: missed game|pg||
pc|c8|nt|starkist: who said quiet , who said harmon|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|s7|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|d2|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4ST82HT7DAQJT64C95,S9753HA652D5CJ832,SAQJ64HJ3D832CAKQ,SKHKQ984DK97CT764|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3H!|an|mixed raise|nt|scotty: S played High low in trumps, which N took as SP.  Defense made sense, since S certainly shouldn't high low in trumps with doubleton @h and @cKJ|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@H = mixed raise|pg||
nt|thegarve:  the match is now tightening up after another 7 IMPs|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|thegarve:  a pre-emptive mixed raise then|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Kamil will overcall, and Fleisher will probably raise|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|bigtrain: no -- values to 7-9 dummy points easily\|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Same spot in the CR, although a much difference auction|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Fleisher: "I quite possibly bid too much"|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
nt|thegarve:  the K@s is marked on the lead|pg||
nt|scotty: It might say mixed raise, systemically, but I think it really means "maximum hand I can have is a mixed raise"|pg||
nt|kit: On a diamond shift, things could get interesting|pg||
nt|bigtrain: he would make the same lead with AKQ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|bigtrain: now it's marked  :)|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Now that problem is resolved|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|nt|kit: now not so interesting, particularly as the diamond shift comes from the west seat|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Meckstroth cannot have much more now, so declarer should get it right|pg||
nt|scotty: Maybe Rodwell hoping a club from partner's king might fool declarer - that's why he gave his partner the lead|pg||
nt|bigtrain: no michael -- they mean it as 7-9 dummy points, with less they usually bid 2M or maybe 1N|pg||
nt|kit: he will certainly play ace of spades, since if king is off, then king of diamonds will be 100% to be on|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sT|nt|kit: this is not the right order|pg||
pc|s5|nt|mtvesuvius: uh oh|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pg||
nt|thegarve:  oh oh|pg||
nt|kit: oh dear -- this was very very bad play|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Not counting the hand apparently|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|s3|nt|kit: But Rodwell may play his partner for the ace of clubs now -- thinking this wouldn't happen|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
mc|9|nt|thegarve:  new leader|pg||
nt|scotty: Low spade was upside-down SP|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Probably, although there was not nearly as much info given in the CR|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Kamil: "sorry ... how many spades did you have?" Rodwell: "1" Meck to Rod "I think you made a better play than I did|pg||
pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4ST82HT7DAQJT64C95,S9753HA652D5CJ832,SAQJ64HJ3D832CAKQ,SKHKQ984DK97CT764|sv|b|nt|gavin: right|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well he could have gone down 1|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: skipping board 10 for the omment|pg||
nt|gavin: impossible play of a diamond, even if declarer has 2 D it would cost him a trick|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: moment|pg||
nt|fabsayc: was a guess on a random jack|pg||
nt|caitlin: good try by defense|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: Karen, our operator is hereby reigned as an honoURary Canadian:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: 4 imps at stake if ew find the sac, and then if north south compete to 5|pg||
nt|gavin: undoubtedly will not bid 5 over 5|pg||
nt|caitlin: 3@C??|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@S went down on diamond queen lead where leader had 10xxx in spades|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|gavin: would get very lucky to make|pg||
nt|gavin: pass pass double i predict|pg||
nt|raghavan: Grand slam on a finesse will they bid or stop in 6|pg||
nt|fabsayc: result not horrible, ew were making 4@D|pg||
mb|d|nt|fabsayc: 2@C majors, so hughes avoids spades|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Lots of big @D fits in this set|pg||
nt|fabsayc: nickell 38 jacobs 25 in US2|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: :)|pg||
nt|gavin: ok double |pg||
mb|2C!|an|diamonds|nt|capercliff: W has a very good hand for 1N, almost too strong|pg||
nt|raghavan: martin agreed but he need not waste his S K|pg||
nt|rlebi: onwards to game now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: usually 2@S would be forcing, but grainger a passed hand|pg||
nt|glen: yes, and does a @H lead from W set up the 4th trick?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: nt range?|pg||
nt|bbramley: a normal unlucky game here|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 11-13|pg||
mb|2H|mb|3D|nt|gavin: wow!!!!|pg||
nt|mcarroll: 2@S crowds the auction|pg||
mb|3H|nt|gavin: 3S!!!!|pg||
nt|raghavan: w = 4H|pg||
nt|gowdy: x|pg||
nt|caitlin: Board 22, E-W in 3N in OR|pg||
nt|caitlin: here in 2@S|pg||
nt|starkist: easier to bid other table playing 12 14|pg||
mb|3S|nt|fabsayc: this looks down 3|pg||
nt|gavin: needs to overtake to play a club, easy play|pg||
nt|gavin: to overtake|pg||
nt|gavin: hard to decide wheather to play hearts or clubs|pg||
nt|gavin: seems like u can see that if u start hearts their club losers can go away|pg||
nt|fabsayc: somehow silver made 6nt on 23|pg||
nt|gavin: very rare that u will need to take heart ruff and u dont get clubs back as a trade|pg||
nt|fabsayc: which looks impossible unless a club opening lead|pg||
nt|gavin: a club lead is impossible|pg||
nt|gavin: but playing 6nt over 6s seems bizarre|pg||
nt|gavin: and a club lead vs 6s is impossible as well|pg||
nt|gavin: ok so the lecuyer team actually leads by 26|pg||
nt|fabsayc: impossible no. just strange|pg||
nt|raghavan: now go for slam|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not easy from here|pg||
nt|mcarroll: far from easy|pg||
nt|gowdy: Hi guys   I think 2@S was 3 controls|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hey Gowdy:))|pg||
nt|caitlin: welcome home|pg||
nt|fabsayc: slam yes, but finding what is needed for 7 a headache|pg||
nt|caitlin: are you home?|pg||
nt|caitlin: I missed you:))|pg||
nt|caitlin: lol|pg||
nt|caitlin: Gowdy and I teach together|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hi John|pg||
nt|fabsayc: even tougher if controls|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is John Gowdy a World Class expert who has coached every type of Canadian team|pg||
nt|glen: no, it looks like just 3 tricks|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: looks like it was E that was thinking|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this has worked nicely|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Low @H lead beats it|pg||
nt|gavin: 7 card suit for me is game opposite a limit raise|pg||
nt|gavin: no matter how bad my hand is|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe 3@C game forcing|pg||
nt|caitlin: agree|pg||
nt|fabsayc: repeated diamond leads would beat this hand i think|pg||
nt|glen: swing to Carruthers|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not that hanna has any reason to find that defense|pg||
nt|glen: so 12+13|pg||
nt|glen: on boards 6+7|pg||
mb|4S|nt|fabsayc: robinson 83 fleisher 33 in USA1|pg||
nt|fabsayc: has 9 runners|pg||
nt|capercliff: or small @h next?|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: oh no|pg||
nt|mcarroll: yes if controls in @C they are useless|pg||
nt|caitlin: that helps Hanna|pg||
nt|raghavan: w = 5D|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Yes now he knows his controls are working|pg||
nt|fabsayc: bid deliberately to push board?|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: impossible because i know how they play|pg||
nt|gowdy: we E after 5D may could be off AK of S|pg||
nt|glen: and the 7NT board up next at the other table|pg||
nt|mittmouse: he might make wo a c lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Not after @H9 played|pg||
nt|gavin: yeah could be GF 3C bid|pg||
pc|hK|nt|capercliff: yes always stiff|pg||
nt|capercliff: 10 if small @h|pg||
nt|gavin: i grew up with david and dan playing junior bridge|pg||
nt|starkist: they got to slam obviously, down with the club finesse off|pg||
nt|gavin: david my oldest regular partner|pg||
nt|mittmouse: hi guys|pg||
pc|h7|nt|gowdy: but  now 5@S|pg||
nt|mittmouse: niv|pg||
pc|h6|nt|starkist: shaky|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome George|pg||
nt|gavin: georgieeeee|pg||
nt|glen: not that we don't like you 6 specs remaining|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|gavin: now jh|pg||
nt|gavin: to get out of the way|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes, else down 2|pg||
nt|gavin: or else they will be unable to seperate them later|pg||
nt|gavin: standout play|pg||
nt|gavin: jurek knows that darren doesnt have the ace of clubs|pg||
nt|gavin: fromt he 8 return|pg||
nt|mittmouse: nice play|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h5|nt|rlebi: 4@S here is a great result|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes no defense now|pg||
nt|starkist: oh|pg||
nt|rlebi: 8 @s better|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|gowdy: so well bid|pg||
nt|caitlin: indeed|pg||
nt|fabsayc: controls identified now|pg||
pc|d7|nt|mittmouse: much better|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|nt|fabsayc: oh maybe i am wrong|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|sharynr: sorry, been on the phone|pg||
pc|s2|nt|caitlin: then Turner MIGHT cue @CK|pg||
nt|rlebi: the partys .... over ???|pg||
nt|starkist: back in the dumper|pg||
nt|mittmouse: 10 imps to lecuyer running out of boards|pg||
pc|s5|nt|fabsayc: heart ruff diamond back, heart|pg||
pc|sA|nt|fabsayc: next :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i did last weeks dishes :)|pg||
nt|glen: ruffs next @H with @S T|pg||
nt|glen: cashes @S K|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no still ok|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|fabsayc: ok, careful defense to win 5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|h4|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s8|nt|mittmouse: ithink both defenders were wrong silver should have played 8 of s and carruthers should have played a club back anyways|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|caitlin: wd|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Looking for board 12 - maybe at other table|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: slight break in the action :)|pg||
nt|mcarroll: 7 imps to Carruthers on 7 - chipping away at the lead|pg||
nt|caitlin: rehi Gowdy|pg||
nt|rlebi: therefore they are a well matched pair|pg||
nt|mittmouse: right|pg||
nt|starkist: voids the arguement|pg||
nt|bbramley: if declarer had the @CA and enough tricks to make he wouldn't have ducked at trick 1|pg||
mc|11|nt|gowdy: Hobart is up 46 38 in the Senior event|pg||
pg||
qx|o27|st||md|1SAJT86543HJ84D2CK,SK9H732DT975CJ542,S2HQT965DQ6CA9863,SQ7HAKDAKJ843CQT7|sv|o|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mtvesuvius: Hamman may go down also, since he lacks information|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell asks about Namyats - no|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d6|nt|mtvesuvius: 4 tricks for the defense always, not much to this|pg||
nt|kit: this looks like just plain down 1|pg||
nt|ady: likely same auction in CR|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
nt|scotty: Rodwell had a difficult problem over 4@s.  With a flattish hand, and a lot of values in short suits, he opted to double - the big winner here|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg||
mc|9|nt|mtvesuvius: Hamman got it right on  26|pg||
pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1SAJT86543HJ84D2CK,SK9H732DT975CJ542,S2HQT965DQ6CA9863,SQ7HAKDAKJ843CQT7|sv|o|nt|capercliff: another 3N contract|pg||
nt|sharynr: it looks like my Bd 22 prediction was right at least.|pg||
nt|caitlin: but with long spades not much else probably happier to bid 4|pg||
nt|caitlin: that is not a commanding lead|pg||
nt|gowdy: ya  and that was going to be my team till it was not :(|pg||
nt|rlebi: wk nt|pg||
nt|glen: btw I'm watching the other room with the Chrome browser, and BBO (Fred, Uday etc.) have done great work supporting multiple browers - BBO is very fast in google's browser Chrome|pg||
nt|bbramley: 30 imps, 5 boards to go|pg||
mb|4S|nt|gavin: looks like the defense can hold this to 4 with a spade lead|pg||
nt|gavin: 4H looks like a pretty good spot, as does 5D but it looks like nothing can make|pg||
nt|raghavan: a dangerous hand for NS|pg||
nt|raghavan: may land in 6H with bad results|pg||
nt|mcarroll: very true|pg||
nt|gowdy: now this " slam"  won't be as much fun|pg||
nt|mcarroll: their best suit fit is full of holes|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|gavin: though the diamonds look like a standout from south, leavin north up to cashing the ace of spades when he gets in with the ace of hearts or it goes away|pg||
nt|rlebi: how many???|pg||
nt|fabsayc: two way stayman|pg||
nt|bbramley: can E/W get to 3NT?|pg||
nt|bbramley: not any more!|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: north must have underlead spade when in with heart ace|pg||
nt|glen: 1NT is 12-14, 2@D game forcing stayman|pg||
pc|c2|nt|caitlin: no|pg||
nt|gavin: in fact ew in the open room freely bid themselves to 5, lucky to survive|pg||
nt|caitlin: @DQ led and then declarer claimed it seems???|pg||
nt|gavin: though unlucky to catch AD opposite void|pg||
nt|gavin: specs suggesting 3nt|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3nt will make|pg||
nt|caitlin: So Czyz is from Ottawa|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Not the Roland F wor?>|pg||
nt|raghavan: No they may stop in 4H|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 6NT is better but down also|pg||
nt|caitlin: capitol of Canada|pg||
nt|gowdy: Is this flannery  or weak with Majors |pg||
nt|caitlin: 2@H shows 5-4 or vul 5-5|pg||
nt|caitlin: that is some strong 2@H bid|pg||
nt|caitlin: 2@S anyone?|pg||
nt|rlebi: the answer was 3|pg||
nt|gambit: other table 5c -1 |pg||
pc|c9|nt|caitlin: or operator missed auction|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|sharynr: good spot|pg||
nt|gavin: seems hard to unravvel your tricks but i guess they end up just coming to you|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 44 possible not vul|pg||
nt|caitlin: not necessarily so weak|pg||
nt|mcarroll: It will be very hard for S to stop in game opposite an opening bid|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|fabsayc: going out on a limb and predicting this will make in under 5 minutes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: do you believe that story?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: they claimed very fast|pg||
nt|raghavan: Gowdy the teacher may approve  that having another Major- I should not pre empt. Also here N has 11 points|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this is the best one we have seen|pg||
nt|caitlin: no 2@H shows both majors|pg||
nt|raghavan: Oh are they playing Flannery?|pg||
nt|caitlin: either 5-4 or vul 5-5 or non vul could even be 4-4|pg||
nt|caitlin: no|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not Flannery, is called Ekren in Europe|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the winning amount|pg||
nt|rlebi: oops|pg||
nt|rlebi: just right|pg||
pc|sA|nt|capercliff: N/S playing 2/1?|pg||
nt|glen: so he drops 2@Ss, 2@Hs, and ummm?|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s2|nt|gowdy: if 2 D shows a bad weak two  then 2 H shows a very good one|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|sharynr: i think you are right!|pg||
nt|fabsayc: a bit harder from south seat|pg||
nt|gavin: yeh seems fine to win in either hand and knock out the king of diamonds, eventually u just cash your tricks and exit with a heart and the defense will be forced to give you your ...|pg||
nt|gavin: club and spade trick in dummy|pg||
nt|bbramley: on their way to 300|pg||
pc|sT|nt|fabsayc: 2@C can be singleton, 2@D rebid promises 4|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: yes, 2c can be 2 or more|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4531 i think would rebid 2@C also|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: at least i think that's Wolpert just said :)|pg||
nt|caitlin: why? North wins HA can play SA|pg||
nt|caitlin: ooooooops|pg||
nt|mcarroll: here we go|pg||
nt|raghavan: Putting head under a sword?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: misplaced major jack, else a reasonable slam|pg||
nt|gowdy: this should be double key card     6 key card  4 aces and 2 major suit kings|pg||
nt|caitlin: I wonder if this is asking re: 5 controls for hearts and spades|pg||
nt|caitlin: 6 I mean:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: could be double key card, not clear which suit is agreed|pg||
nt|caitlin: hearts|pg||
pc|sK|nt|gavin: after the 1D opening bid, south definitely should not lead a diamond|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or underlead it for the set|pg||
nt|gavin: needs to pick from his doubletons|pg||
nt|gowdy: 11 to 13 |pg||
nt|caitlin: ok|pg||
nt|fabsayc: indeed vul against not with defense no reason to bid 4|pg||
pc|h5|nt|caitlin: he did not cash SA|pg||
nt|gavin: wrong one , now cyz has to cash ace of spades to hold to 5 |pg||
nt|gavin: fly ace|pg||
nt|gavin: in fact north should fly ace of hearts and play a club|pg||
nt|caitlin: on this lead clubs going nowhere nor hearts for defense..more likely to cash out|pg||
nt|caitlin: why Gavin?|pg||
nt|caitlin: this could be singleton?|pg||
nt|gavin: cause of the lead ?|pg||
nt|caitlin: :))|pg||
nt|gavin: maybe in 4 that isnt such a winning defence since the club ruff would be 3rd trick, he needs a spade honor from partner to beat|pg||
nt|gavin: so might as well hope its kx and thats why partner was afraid to lead it|pg||
nt|caitlin: what is 5@S?|pg||
nt|mcarroll: If they get to 6@H E will be very careful not to double in case they run to a making 6NT|pg||
nt|raghavan: what does 5S mean |pg||
nt|glen: bonus for operator: play will be quick|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|fabsayc: on this type of auction clubs often the weakest suit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if responder has club fit would tend to rebid 2@S not 2nt|pg||
nt|capercliff: Wolpert taking his time with this one|pg||
nt|capercliff: he will overtake and finesse I would think|pg||
nt|fabsayc: some minor communication issues|pg||
nt|mcarroll: On a @C lead will succeed if the !Q is played, which is I think the correct technical play|pg||
pc|dT|nt|fabsayc: now what?|pg||
nt|capercliff: bit of a surprise this, a @c from the east hand cant hurt him|pg||
nt|caitlin: makes sense|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hanna needs to pitch a diamond if 3rd heart lead|pg||
nt|rlebi: i hear the fat lady warming up ..|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|nt|capercliff: assuming he overtakes and finesses the @d again|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|raghavan: Martin you are right as always|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this one is good to read the Hobbit trilogy|pg||
nt|raghavan: I maeant NO DOUBLE|pg||
nt|caitlin: for sure no double|pg||
nt|caitlin: you never know if 6N will make which it does not here|pg||
nt|glen: in the other room, on board 8, they are also using the Green convention|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: director has been called|pg||
nt|glen: what for i wonder?|pg||
pc|hK|nt|fabsayc: a spade back would be embarassing if jack wrong|pg||
nt|mcarroll: small @H from N at trick 2 would have worked|pg||
nt|capercliff: yah and when @h are 4-1|pg||
nt|capercliff: 4-2 sry|pg||
nt|capercliff: if the K@c was wrong he could go off now|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Would have 4@H,3@D 1@C and 1@S|pg||
nt|capercliff: overtaking with the J at trick one was 100%|pg||
nt|gowdy: 9 @C  and the @H now|pg||
pc|h8|nt|gavin: very thoughtfull play|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pg||
nt|glen: maybe its zero tolerance, as they have zero chance of beating the doubled contract|pg||
pc|c7|nt|mcarroll: True|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no overtrick|pg||
nt|susieq: was there a ruling?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: made 3 exactly|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: there was a one trick transfer by director, i don't know why, sorry|pg||
nt|rlebi: not likely|pg||
nt|fabsayc: wow|pg||
pc|h4|nt|caitlin: there are SIX hungry university guys in my backyard doing the barbecue|pg||
nt|gavin: hughes sees that the one layout that will defeat him is 2 club ruffs|pg||
nt|gavin: so he ditches a club on the ace of diamonds and leads a heart up towards his hand (north is marked with ace of hearts from auction)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: can make from here|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|gavin: well played|pg||
nt|caitlin: when declaring you always have to think about worse case scenario|pg||
nt|caitlin: what if? what if?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: lost the play on this one, too fast|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or in this case, best case, doubleton ace of hearts|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: sorry :(|pg||
nt|caitlin: np what is outcome?|pg||
nt|raghavan: I hope he plays H 6 on lead from N - then 3 down - |pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2 down|pg||
nt|caitlin: Karen we understand...I could NEVER do your job|pg||
nt|raghavan: sorry 2 down|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|fabsayc: likely a pus or 3 imps maximum|pg||
pc|h9|nt|capercliff: hmm the J is interesting, he must know declarer has the 10?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg||
nt|gowdy: the @C 2 was a mistake|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2SQJ63HK986DAJ7CQ6,SA98HDT532CAT7532,SK72HQT72D84CKJ98,ST54HAJ543DKQ96C4|sv|n|nt|Vugraphu1: Meck: "he had his bid, unfortunately"|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|semi forcing|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: the 2@D call gets Meckstroth interested, but he can't be 100% sure it is a 4-card suit|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 3@d is enough here though|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Fleisher asks Meck whether Rod has 4 @ds "well, he could have 3, he doesn't guarantee 4"|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|Vugraphu1: Meck: "sorry about the whole thing, partner"|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Kamil asks if 1NT was forcing "semi-forcing"|pg||
pc|s8|nt|ady: west passed hand    so again surely 2nd suit should be 4+ cards|pg||
nt|scotty: Declarer has 3 aces, and will hope to make at least 6 trumps on cross ruff|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d4|nt|kit: so maybe ducking opening lead not so right|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg||
nt|scotty: taking a chance on ducking first trick - rewarded big time when North hoped his partner had @sQJ10|pg||
nt|kit: if Kamil had played low, fleisher could have found ace and a diamond himself which I think would have defeated the contract|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: yes, and now he has 3 aces and 4 trumps and the @s finesse|pg||
nt|scotty: But winning @sA and crossruff can only succeed easily if S has long clubs.  So Rodwell hoped to survive by setting up long suit if they played @dA and @d.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: As it is, South only has a doubleton, so winning the A@S would lose there|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cA|nt|kit: still, ducking the spade gives the defense a fielders choice|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|d6|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c3|nt|scotty: Maybe he figured that S didn't lead a trump initially, but instead led from a non-solid spade sequence.  So was unlikely to have easy trump play at trick 2, and North might well do ...|pg||
nt|scotty: what he did|pg||
pc|c9|pc|dQ|mc|9|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2SQJ63HK986DAJ7CQ6,SA98HDT532CAT7532,SK72HQT72D84CKJ98,ST54HAJ543DKQ96C4|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: MAYBE!!|pg||
nt|gavin: so the actual score is 135-97|pg||
nt|fabsayc: push|pg||
nt|glen: could have been a misplayed card|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|caitlin: I still wish I knew what 5@S response to 4N was|pg||
mb|2D!|an|5+!h, 4+!d|nt|vugraphznx: they were discussing that here a bit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: more than he had?|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hanna seems to hold hearts a lot:)|pg||
nt|raghavan: I also want to know what 5S is|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Carruthers got another 5 imps on board 7|pg||
nt|caitlin: 4@S  E-W|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 1@H, does not fit any other overcall|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: everyone agree with 2S?|pg||
nt|caitlin: by North?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is ok|pg||
nt|gavin: with 4 boards to go in the set|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe hanna should cash diamond before returning the club|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not sure which way denies the club doubleton|pg||
nt|fabsayc: penalty card in hearts maybe|pg||
nt|glen: poor other table, when they try to work that out|pg||
nt|glen: 1 hour from now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hey tough enough here|pg||
nt|bbramley: slam on 2 finesses, or 1 finesse and a miracle @D guess|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|nt|gavin: wolpert bid 1NT here because he didnt think he was good enough for 2H|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but 3@H also ok|pg||
nt|gavin: aggressive 4S bid|pg||
nt|gavin: rlly hate that bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: and instead of risking his partner raising 1S to 2S and playing the wrong fit, he bid 1NT|pg||
nt|gavin: on that lead declarer will likely go 2 down, take a spade finesse|pg||
nt|bbramley: but only 30 HCP and no extra shape - it's a bad slam and normal to stay out of it|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Seemingly W cannot pass 2@C?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 800 possible|pg||
nt|caitlin: wow|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i doubt i would want to ever pass 3nt|pg||
nt|gavin: though the defense will need to cash their tricks int he right order|pg||
nt|fabsayc: in open room Joey opened 2@D and auction crowded opponents|pg||
nt|caitlin: can set up hearts to make 4S|pg||
nt|glen: btw board 8 is a push in 7NT, unless misplayed now|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|nt|fabsayc: 3@C blocking bid but sometimes taken seriously|pg||
nt|gavin: easy to allow them to escape for 1 down by trying to cash 2 hearts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: would be a better contract if north had 2 hearts and 1 diamond|pg||
nt|gowdy: the A  then the 9  the green plays the last @H|pg||
nt|glen: nope, claim eliminated misplay chance|pg||
pc|s7|nt|fabsayc: he can pass, and will when happy to see opponents bid|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe more|pg||
nt|starkist: omg|pg||
nt|caitlin: right|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2@H is weird|pg||
nt|mcarroll: I agree|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i guess 1@S can be a four card suit for them|pg||
nt|gowdy: normal   canadian  hmmm |pg||
nt|starkist: it's the exchange rate|pg||
nt|bbramley: north must be worth another try, assuming that 2@C was GF|pg||
nt|gracelin: both 6H / 6NT forced to make on DQ lead :)|pg||
nt|gracelin: srry, private|pg||
nt|bbramley: yes|pg||
nt|bbramley: any time, patrick :)|pg||
nt|starkist: 4n coming|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@C|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|fabsayc: hearts so much better here|pg||
nt|starkist: 13 imps|pg||
nt|gavin: better but still grim|pg||
nt|gavin: here it is no play|pg||
nt|gavin: like most of the time|pg||
nt|gavin: he is not playing with someone who is afraid to bid|pg||
nt|mittmouse: club back is best then 3 down|pg||
nt|gavin: needs a pure 3S bid to have hope|pg||
nt|susieq: when in doubt, claim|pg||
pc|c4|nt|capercliff: wow|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well this does have a play of sorts, but will fail|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Very lucky with the @C position|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|fabsayc: needs miracles including clubs 2-2 onside i believe|pg||
nt|capercliff: so long as N goes low with a @c|pg||
nt|capercliff: if N doesnt play small it will come in|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no|pg||
nt|caitlin: hmmmm|pg||
nt|gowdy: nice auction|pg||
nt|mittmouse: if he gets to 6 withqof d lead and he ducks and w returns the 9 of clubs he may still go down playing for a squeeze|pg||
pc|c2|nt|glen: also when in 7NT, claim|pg||
pc|c9|nt|caitlin: hey there fish...you finished in Open?|pg||
nt|caitlin: missed opportunity|pg||
nt|fabsayc: ok i claim 5@C|pg||
pc|d6|nt|fabsayc: still losers in diamond to deal with|pg||
nt|gowdy: rebidding your 7 card suit ?  not so so thats bad|pg||
nt|fabsayc: still gaining imps however|pg||
nt|caitlin: true|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|sharynr: sorry folks....gotta make dinner. Enjoy|pg||
nt|starkist: they ran out of hands|pg||
nt|caitlin: Carruthers team is going to have their work cut out this eve|pg||
nt|rlebi: 12 tricks now|pg||
pc|hA|nt|gavin: hard hand|pg||
nt|caitlin: and that is the name of the game|pg||
nt|caitlin: so far 18 vs 9 IMPs to L'Ecuyer|pg||
pc|h6|nt|mittmouse: 4 down|pg||
nt|gavin: 3 down for 10 imps|pg||
nt|fabsayc: right but 2@H is going nowhere with a promising hand|pg||
pc|s8|nt|gavin: south had a tough problem, conflicting rules|pg||
nt|gavin: most often when you have a 4-4 fit and a 5-3 fit you want to play the 4-4 fit|pg||
nt|gavin: though from the bidding there was a good chance his partner was 6-4, and with such bad spades it hink he made the wrong decision|pg||
nt|mittmouse: no 3|pg||
nt|raghavan: Hanna will make 3 only|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|gavin: 135-107|pg||
pc|h3|nt|caitlin: and use 5-3 to dump losers if possible|pg||
nt|gavin: here north didnt even introduce spades|pg||
nt|rlebi: 37 imps with 3 boards|pg||
pc|h8|nt|harmon: Hey everyone|pg||
pc|d2|nt|fabsayc: ultralight 1nt stole board 12, carruthers missed game|pg||
nt|caitlin: Harmon sorry this table ONLY for Canadian citizens|pg||
nt|starkist: 1@h 1n 2@s 2n* 3@h 4@s|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|fabsayc: david is going to wish he kept that exit card|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|nt|mittmouse: in this position hughes should return the count 2 of h|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3SKJ5HA62DA7643C63,SA643H954DQT92CQT,ST9HQT8DKJ85CJ872,SQ872HKJ73DCAK954|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2D|an|0-1 !ds,  11-15, can have a 3 card Major|nt|mtvesuvius: 2@d =0-1@d and 11-15 HCP|pg||
mb|d|mb|2S!|an|Non forcing|nt|bigtrain: 2@D = 4315, 3415, 4414 or 4405 11-15|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Nobody really wants to get into this auction now|pg||
mb|3D|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: guess double of 2@D showed diamonds|pg||
mb|p|nt|thegarve:  this normally asks for a trump lead|pg||
nt|scotty: It showed diamonds, butr not enough to bid 3@d, I think|pg||
nt|kit: yes, Kamil has crystal clear trump leads|pg||
pc|sT|nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell: "sorry if I should have done something else"|pg||
pc|s2|nt|scotty: Why is it crystal clear?|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: It would seem it is... North has shown short @d|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|nt|kit: will likely guess clubs right|pg||
pc|d4|pc|h5|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c5|pc|h2|pc|s3|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|scotty: The point I was trying to make is that, if a club lead is "clear" because N has clubs covered, maybe declarer might finesse him for @cJ?|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|kit: Assuming that declarer has such a guess -- and he didn't get it right anyway|pg||
pc|hT|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: -2 it looks like|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c29|st||md|3SKJ5HA62DA7643C63,SA643H954DQT92CQT,ST9HQT8DKJ85CJ872,SQ872HKJ73DCAK954|sv|b|nt|fabsayc: i am pretty sure was best to ruff third spade with heart nine and exit with a heart|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D!|an|could be canape|nt|starkist: down, hard to lead the @st to make|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes passport controls as of June 1|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: hey harmon|pg||
nt|gavin: if north south can find hearts they make a LOT|pg||
nt|starkist: disaster other table|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3@D very strange contract|pg||
nt|gavin: looks like atleast 10 tricks|pg||
nt|starkist: 2@c is majors, shd survive|pg||
nt|fabsayc: great hand for an ace underlead by Darren against 4@S|pg||
nt|fabsayc: korbel has a double, although a shakey one|pg||
nt|rlebi: here the swing hand we were looking for|pg||
nt|rlebi: here's|pg||
mb|1S!|an|3+!s, non-forcing|nt|rlebi: std dbl|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: for this set|pg||
mb|3H!|nt|rlebi: relay to 2@c|pg||
nt|glen: rdbl is likely a 1 suit runout here|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: ok i respond 1@H|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and expect to survive|pg||
nt|gavin: opposite a passed hand, I really like 2NT opening with west hand|pg||
nt|starkist: wow|pg||
nt|starkist: just what the doctor ordered|pg||
mb|4S|nt|mcbruce:  This would be a good time to thank the commentators and the operators, who did a good job for us for two days!|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: with direct bids two suited brozel or similar|pg||
nt|glen: they could play dont, as in dont double us|pg||
nt|starkist: You too Bruce|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: the transfer advance |pg||
mb|p|nt|starkist: they did other table|pg||
nt|caitlin: close round so far L'Ecuyer 15; Carruthers 13|pg||
nt|fabsayc: even first or second|pg||
nt|starkist: seems normal|pg||
nt|raghavan: unfortunate lead -Clubs will be set up hoping DK entry|pg||
pc|sT|nt|starkist: thanks Karen, you're good|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: :)|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|fabsayc: good auction|pg||
nt|mittmouse: wd in the bidding|pg||
nt|starkist: 3@h not that auto against strong nt|pg||
nt|fabsayc: fourth best|pg||
nt|rlebi: a little rich i think|pg||
nt|fabsayc: that is why i said double was shakey, is really at bottom end in tricks|pg||
nt|glen: some specs like 2@SX for NS better|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes +300|pg||
pc|sK|nt|caitlin: hey Detroit is on a power play|pg||
nt|gavin: shorthanded goal incoming|pg||
nt|gavin: a little malkin breakaway|pg||
nt|starkist: cant type with fingers crossed|pg||
nt|caitlin: there will hardly be a break.......next round in 40 minutes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: http://www.cbf.ca/BWeek/09files/BWeek09_results.html for times and results|pg||
nt|caitlin: for whom Tony?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: next set at 7PM pacific time|pg||
nt|caitlin: or 10 pm Eastern |pg||
nt|caitlin: whichever you prefer:)|pg||
nt|rlebi: the winning lead|pg||
nt|starkist: knew you were talented before, add this to the list|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|caitlin: hard to go wrong here|pg||
nt|starkist: can't say, I'm afraid to rile the pitt fans|pg||
nt|caitlin: no more Detroit ones here|pg||
nt|starkist: proximity|pg||
nt|caitlin: let's have specs clap if for Pittsburgh.....|pg||
nt|caitlin: and now for Detroit|pg||
nt|caitlin: OMG the clapping for Detroit was overwhelming|pg||
nt|fabsayc: probably cross ruff for 11 tricks|pg||
pc|s5|nt|mcarroll: Contravenes Burn's Law|pg||
nt|capercliff: I dont mind passing, dont want to encourage partner to bids lots|pg||
pc|sA|nt|gavin: jurek is a sick sick animal :)|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Club return causes problems|pg||
nt|fabsayc: indeed will still need to guess diamonds now|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Has to hope that D!A is right|pg||
pc|s9|nt|harmon: GO BREWERS|pg||
nt|caitlin: Gowdy how come there are no results for Seniors?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or queen|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|h4|nt|fabsayc: 1c-1h-2d (West coast Polish convention showing balanced 18-19)|pg||
nt|starkist: thanks Roland/BBO/CBF|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hJ|nt|caitlin: sorry Hobart vs Jotcham|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|gavin: west can see without any entries to dummy that he might aswell lead clubs out of his hand|pg||
nt|glen: yes, otherwise known as no hope in heck|pg||
pc|s4|nt|rlebi: will Jim find the winnining return?|pg||
pc|d5|nt|capercliff: you cant always have 4-4 fits in the majors|pg||
nt|gavin: normally you would like to lead up towards the kq a couple times|pg||
nt|caitlin: which proves fruitful|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: he did|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2h rebid (my hand sucks) - ok then 2s not forcing- thanks partner|pg||
pc|h6|nt|gowdy: well n's 8 is suit pref for H  as opposed to netural  so it is gueesable  |pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|nt|gavin: with the 9 showing in north|pg||
nt|gavin: west carefully protected his 3rd club trick by leading low from his hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now a safety play|pg||
nt|gavin: 2nd rather|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but will cost an imp or two|pg||
nt|starkist: pitt scores|pg||
nt|fabsayc: lost an imp not cashing the spade|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but had hanna ducked this would be very interesting|pg||
pc|c4|nt|gavin: 9 tricks secured with 1 spade 3 hearts 3 diamonds and 2 clubs|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he already has to assume heart ace right|pg||
pc|c3|nt|mittmouse: well i think 3h is the right bid if it just shows a lot of hearts and no cards|pg||
nt|fabsayc: as it should, with power you go thru 2NT|pg||
nt|starkist: i agree if it shows that|pg||
nt|starkist: because thats what he has|pg||
nt|gavin: yeah... though it would still typically have a card outside i thk|pg||
nt|gavin: 5 card support and a stiff and out seems like a bit much|pg||
nt|gavin: 145-107 if he makes this|pg||
nt|starkist: fellow commentators, starstudded... should put a team together and challenge the winners|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|cA|nt|gavin: if the vugraph operator can wish my bro and his team gl from me id appreciate it|pg||
nt|starkist: forgone|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this looks pretty normal to me|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: if that looks weird, i may have missed a trick|pg||
pc|cK|pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|fabsayc: well carruthers got the most out of this hand|pg||
nt|starkist: the cntc is not the same without shaky and schvantz|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|c5|pc|d4|pc|s6|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4SKT32HK86D653C843,S854HQJ52DK9CAJ65,SQ96HA3DQT842CQT2,SAJ7HT974DAJ7CK97|sv|o|nt|Vugraphu1: Meck: "good lead" Fleisher: "yes, Michael, good lead" Kamil: "thanks, seems to be my best feature in this segment"|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|mtvesuvius: Rubin-Granovetter are too high on  28, 4@d|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: part score  in hearts for e/w|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: This is the last board of the second segment of the USA2 Final. Many thanks to our fantastic operator in White Plains, Jan Martel! Great job, and thanks for bringing the room to ...|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: life! Also thanks to my excellent fellow commentators: Roland Wald, Kit Woolsey, Walter Johnson, Michael Rosenberg, Matt Meckstroth, David Greenwood, David Edwin and Martin Garvey, ...|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: I am Adam Kaplan.|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Our appreciation to the USBF for bringing this prestigious event to BBO vugraph. As always, Jan Martel has been instrumental in setting up a great show for the whole world to ...|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: watch, and Roland Wald, who works tirelessly to bring us this great show!|pg||
mb|2N!|an|only game try|nt|scotty: He needed all the clubs to make the hand.  He made the percentage play in the suit.  But maybe in the hand he might have played N for club stopper, based on shorter spades and ...|pg||
nt|scotty: diamonds in N hand|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2N is a random game try|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|thegarve:  so 2@S is?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: slam relay|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: Does 2@h guarantee 4-card, Walter?|pg||
mb|4H|nt|bigtrain: yes|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: not fancied|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Both E & W wrote that 2NT was their only game try|pg||
pc|d2|nt|bigtrain: that is true|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Rodwell: "at least I have my 7's"|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d6|nt|scotty: 24 points and a 4-4 fit - but game basically needs 3 finesses right|pg||
nt|kit: even with diamond problem solved, looks like declarer is a trick short here|pg||
nt|bigtrain: any other bid is a slam try - with S1 as a slam relay|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hT|nt|mtvesuvius: The clubs cannot be set up in time|pg||
nt|ady: spade lead   2 down    now  should be down 1|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|kit: seems like they should have gotten to 3NT, which also can be beaten but the defense would have to get spades going in time|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
nt|scotty: Why would spade lead defeat it 2?|pg||
nt|scotty: I guess S! means first step, Walter?|pg||
nt|scotty: S1|pg||
nt|ady: no true   can taked diamond finesse|pg||
nt|kit: declarer can and would take diamond finesse on spade lead, as would be only chance to make|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg||
nt|bigtrain: S1 = step one|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d4|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg||
nt|bigtrain: sorry, trying to eat and type -- only makes for a messy keyboard|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: @d on, and @c on would make then, right|pg||
nt|thegarve:  could they get to 3NT?|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|s5|pc|dT|pg||
nt|bigtrain: they were there -- meck decided 4@H was better|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c8|nt|ady: could they not get to 3@H|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3NT by roddy was an offer to play|pg||
mc|9|nt|mtvesuvius: ok, thx all :)|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: And thanks to all the spectators for your helpful comments, we will be back with the Third segment of the Final tomorrow at 7:00 am Los Angeles, 10:00 am New York, 16.00 Paris, ...|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: 3:00 pm London, 12:00 am Tuesday Sydney!|pg||
nt|scotty: Assuming no other problems such as trumps 4-1, diamonds, 6-2, club ruff etc.  That's why I said three finesses, but nobody questioned me|pg||
nt|kit: 3@H with 24 points?????|pg||
nt|ady: very flat|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Certainly a game I'd want to be in|pg||
nt|ady: doubt 3NT would make   if no spade lead   surely spade switch|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Although 3NT is better|pg||
nt|mtvesuvius: Tough to find a @s switch from either holding|pg||
nt|thegarve:  lots of action so far, lets hope for a fun day tomorrow|pg||
nt|ady: thx all     bye|pg||
nt|scotty: I'd only want to be in game on this if I got waterboarded for missing one|pg||
nt|thegarve:  might be a new leader after tonight|pg||
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qx|c30|st||md|4SKT32HK86D653C843,S854HQJ52DK9CAJ65,SQ96HA3DQT842CQT2,SAJ7HT974DAJ7CK97|sv|o|nt|vugraphznx: skipping board 14, will come back to it|pg||
mb|1D!|an|could be canape|nt|fabsayc: thanks to our operator Karen, good work|pg||
nt|caitlin: I am sure Karen can......from Gavin to the Darren and his team|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: looked fine Karen|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and it looks like slam can be made EW in hearts|pg||
mb|1H!|an|3+!h, non-forcing|nt|glen: anybody for slam? everybody?|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: he stole his rebid|pg||
nt|starkist: actionne|pg||
mb|2H|an|promises 4|nt|gowdy: no was spot on I think|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Inverted minor raise presumably|pg||
nt|fabsayc: one of the surer applictions of the rabbi rule here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but 6@D is still on a guess if no spade lead|pg||
nt|capercliff: wonder if 2@d was GF or not|pg||
nt|caitlin: Pittsburg 2 Detroit 0|pg||
nt|bbramley: tough for your main partner to be from a different country - much harder to make teams|pg||
nt|starkist: 3@h bit pusilanimous|pg||
nt|starkist: 2n|pg||
nt|bbramley: could try 2NT, get some info|pg||
mb|4H|nt|fabsayc: and to all the impartial commentators, spectators, roland, bbo, and the CBF|pg||
nt|caitlin: is Hazel with them?|pg||
nt|gowdy: this may be a chance to tightenthings up|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: 61d is cold|pg||
nt|capercliff: @d|pg||
nt|capercliff: and bid in the open room|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not the lead direct double just helped opponents on this board|pg||
nt|caitlin: two way stayman?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i cant spell that, so will use the british "wet" instead|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: note|pg||
nt|caitlin: I assume|pg||
mb|p|nt|starkist: gavin not impartial|pg||
nt|caitlin: and hello from Gavin to his mom|pg||
nt|raghavan: Why not W trasfer |pg||
nt|fabsayc: well an enjoyable and fast set, thanks again to Karen, our tireless operator|pg||
pc|d4|nt|rlebi: 6@c only slam that makes|pg||
pc|d7|nt|fabsayc: one more board after this, again thanks to Karen for her hard work all today as operator|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|pg||
nt|caitlin: the Wolperts are a famous bridge playing family in Toronto:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now all we need is another 500 spectators for the final set|pg||
nt|rlebi: or @ds|pg||
nt|glen: btw we have a USA1 winner in spec, and congrads to that team in a very tough and long event|pg||
nt|glen: hopefully they will concede once they see how strong Canada1 is|pg||
nt|glen: hmm, they promise a battle :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: we will field the enforcers with 10 foot hockey sticks|pg||
nt|glen: he might just put 6@C on the table now|pg||
pc|dK|nt|caitlin: 5-3s often better in NT|pg||
pc|d2|nt|raghavan: 4 H no chance let us see for 3NT|pg||
nt|mcarroll: 8 tricks and chances for a ninth|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but here the 5 never even mentioned|pg||
nt|caitlin: needs one minor suit trick|pg||
nt|caitlin: ????|pg||
nt|fabsayc: entries a problem|pg||
nt|mcbruce:  we're about 5 mins from COPC one round to go leaders|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|fabsayc: cunning play but should not work|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|capercliff: huh?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: signing off, but this could be less safe than slam|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he can be missing two aces|pg||
nt|capercliff: 5@s was a relay to play in 5N|pg||
nt|fabsayc: so blackwood was not the right tool|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not sure what is however|pg||
nt|gowdy: needs a or k of d in N with  no C switch|pg||
nt|susieq: 5N transfers the blame to partner|pg||
nt|glen: no, its the your-fault 5NT (i.e. you pick it)|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|fabsayc: one does not get 12 card fits that often|pg||
nt|capercliff: slam is 50/50 at best anyway|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and to gavin, caitlin, tony, george and cameos from cam and harmon |pg||
nt|fabsayc: so win and heart to 9 and diamond up|pg||
pc|h3|nt|capercliff: happens to be the right side of 50 this time|pg||
nt|fabsayc: better than 50-50|pg||
nt|capercliff: you dont have time to try both finesses Martin:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: usually the defense will yield many clues to the best line|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hazel, the mom runs a great bridge club|pg||
nt|raghavan: North must be alert to play C and another C|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this is essentially the same|pg||
nt|fabsayc: actually this is better, though Jurek should realize hearts likely solid|pg||
nt|rlebi: he picked swell|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not a bid with a great track record lately, but worked here|pg||
nt|glen: on board 10, with the two offside black kings, EW made 6@S at the other table|pg||
nt|glen: sorry board 9|pg||
nt|glen: they bid 6@S for 13 imps|pg||
pc|h4|nt|fabsayc: they have to guard clubs also|pg||
nt|fabsayc: plus no spade lead, i would expect a lot of clues|pg||
nt|glen: and now in 6@S board 10|pg||
nt|fabsayc: wow|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
pc|h8|nt|fabsayc: tomorrow first session at 9:30 PDT, 12:30 in toronto, 2pm in newfoundland|pg||
nt|starkist: cameos and harmeos|pg||
nt|harmon: what time in Borneo???|pg||
nt|mcbruce: Special thanks from me to both of our operators today.  While they tolied I finished preduplicating the last of the 2,858 boards for the tournament.  :)|pg||
nt|gavin: yikes bruce i know that task|pg||
nt|rlebi: swing comes back as predicted|pg||
pc|h2|nt|caitlin: nice 6@C by Turner and Hughes|pg||
pc|hA|nt|fabsayc: in answer to why they cancelled the board|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|fabsayc: thoughts on opener rebidding 2@C rather than 3@D|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|s5|pg||
nt|mcarroll: now 9 tricks|pg||
nt|gowdy: 8 |pg||
nt|fabsayc: not so fast|pg||
nt|raghavan: still Ck and C|pg||
nt|mcarroll: true|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and now is surely marked|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Has 9 but def can getb 5 first|pg||
nt|raghavan: Why H is not developped - means solid|pg||
pc|h9|nt|raghavan: so hope in C|pg||
nt|gowdy: works here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: slam on 9 was fair, on 10 horrible|pg||
pc|h6|nt|fabsayc: cash the spade|pg||
pc|h5|pc|dT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if this session did not start on time, would be very noisy once the COPC ended|pg||
pc|cK|nt|raghavan: GOOOOOD|pg||
pc|c3|nt|fabsayc: declarer will need to guess right at the end to get the 6 tricks he started with|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi Folks|pg||
pc|c5|nt|caitlin: Hi Martin:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome Ellen|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|mcarroll: excellent defence - but still loses 3 imps|pg||
pc|c7|nt|mcarroll: 2|pg||
nt|gowdy: 2|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
