vg|2008 USBC - QF - 1 v 8,Segment 4 of 4,I,46,60,MELTZER,80,TRITT,92|
rs|1NW-1,2SE=,3NW=,1NW+3,4SN+1,4SN+1,4SE-1,4SE-1,3NE=,3NE=,5DW=,3NW-1,6SEx-2,4SE=,5DSx+1,5SEx-2,4SE=,4SE+1,2SW=,3HS+1,2DN+1,2SS=,3NW=,3NE+1,1SSx-2,1SSx-1,2SS+2,2SN+1,3SN=,4DE-2|
pn|Bates,Garber,Sontag,Looby,Assemi,Stansby,Wojewoda,Bramley|pg||
qx|o46|st||md|4SQ6HT8765DJ976CKJ,SK874HQ943DKTCA53,SAJ3HKDA85CQ97642,ST952HAJ2DQ432CT8|sv|o|nt|vugraphec1: hi all enjoy to see you to this 7 round|pg||
nt|sybarra: hello all |pg||
nt|vlad9: hello everyone  welcome to this exciting match|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: just have E bid 3 nt operator |pg||
nt|jaapfr: suppose 1@H-1@S-1nt etc 3nt|pg||
nt|sybarra: easiest operator to have E bid 3 nt,  all pass |pg||
nt|sybarra: get lead,  and then claim as appropriate |pg||
nt|jaapfr: 3nt+2 to be expected|pg||
nt|jaapfr: operateur vous parlez seulement de Francais?|pg||
nt|sybarra: will need 3 nt bid by east   (all pass) thn opening lead,  and can claim number of tricks |pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: welcome back to Pau |pg||
nt|jaapfr: hoi all and shirley:)|pg||
nt|sybarra: I suspect it is played by E |pg||
nt|vlad9: Ireland the raigning silver medalist from last  EU championship|pg||
mb|1C|nt|sybarra: hoi Jaap |pg||
nt|jaapfr: the name of the S player is Vroustis i hear|pg||
mb|p|nt|moen: Theese 2 teams are currently Greece 7th and Monaco )th place|pg||
nt|baldjean: the CC for the Monaco pair seems not to be posted; no Vincetelli listed for me|pg||
mb|1D|nt|sybarra: other room in the "doomed" slam as Jaap mentioned |pg||
mb|p|nt|baldjean: hello all. let's hope we will see a good match|pg||
nt|jaapfr: start with a doomed slam?|pg||
nt|sybarra: hello again Jeanine :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: hoi janine|pg||
nt|moen: Good afternoon all|pg||
mb|1N|nt|xenya: hello everyone|pg||
nt|mariner1: hi Vlad|pg||
nt|xenya: hello Rob|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: hi rob vlad :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: monaco 9th|pg||
nt|moen: monaco 9th place|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: hello Fred, welcome |pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: hoi fred|pg||
nt|moen: tu|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: 3N showing both majors here I think|pg||
pc|c6|mc|6|nt|xenya: salut Dan|pg||
nt|mariner1: Hi Dan|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes and 4@c for @h|pg||
nt|mariner1: NS play a form of puppet|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: stayman only |pg||
nt|sybarra: think we missed some passes |pg||
nt|jaapfr: 3NT played by E|pg||
nt|vlad9: Bulgaria  is 4th in group B  at the moment but the points margin betwwen both teams at this event  is small|pg||
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qx|c46|st||md|4SQ6HT8765DJ976CKJ,SK874HQ943DKTCA53,SAJ3HKDA85CQ97642,ST952HAJ2DQ432CT8|sv|o|nt|figb_rama: buongiorno a tutti|pg||
nt|figb_rama: incontri di vertice tra la prima e la seconda del girone A|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|figb_rama: la Finlandia è infatti al momento sorprendentemente seconda a -3 da noi|pg||
nt|caruga: buongiorno a tutti|pg||
mb|1C|nt|figb_rama: le prima 6 del nostro girone sono in una manciata di VP|pg||
nt|vugraphec3: buongiorno fabio|pg||
nt|caruga: ciao :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: Bonsoir à tous :)|pg||
mb|1S|nt|rialc2: Buongiorno a tutti. Ben trovati. Forza azzurri!|pg||
mb|p|nt|caruga: questa coppia finlandese gioca quadri forte e aperture in un nobile 8/11|pg||
nt|minnie lee: Buon giorno a tutti:)|pg||
nt|cumino: Ciao a tutti|pg||
nt|figb_rama: ITA 115, FIN 112, OLA 11, CEC 108, ISR 105, ISL 104|pg||
nt|figb_rama: la settima è più staccata DAN 92|pg||
mb|2S|nt|figb_rama: sull'incontro di ieri vs ISR pende una decisione arbitrale che potrebbe spostare una decina di imps per noi|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|copeyj: Good afternoon all|pg||
mb|p|nt|uppino: ciao a tutti|pg||
nt|rialc2: Una decina a nostro favore?|pg||
pc|h8|nt|Walddk2: Good afternoon everyone and welcome back to Pau|pg||
mc|8|nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers!|pg||
nt|ritong: bonsoir pierre, bonsoir a tous|pg||
nt|chmitty: salut Henri|pg||
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qx|o47|st||md|1SJ43HQ765DA9CJ743,SAK9HKDQ532CKQT65,SQ852HAJ92DT876C8,ST76HT843DKJ4CA92|sv|n|nt|xenya: so first blood to Russia, who judged very well to stop in 4 in the CR|pg||
nt|vlad9: first imps to Ireland - seams they made too many tricks in the other room|pg||
mb|p|nt|h_karluk: Seems no matches are easy there|pg||
nt|baldjean: sorry, emergency here. I will have to stop commentating. I hope I can be back in about half an hour|pg||
nt|jaapfr: just above 50% chance is a too sharp slam:)|pg||
nt|vlad9: 14-16  NT?|pg||
nt|thegarve: the Bulgarians have been a growing force in Europe - I have been impressed by their strength in depth|pg||
nt|thegarve: yes 14-16 confirmed|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Good Evening all:)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: I have someone bringing me bidding, opening lead & result so I'll be entering those at the invisible table|pg||
mb|1C|nt|sybarra: West's name is Garcia |pg||
mb|p|nt|thegarve: this should ge passed out|pg||
nt|vlad9: ty  Martin  indeed we have had spectacular  successes lately|pg||
nt|thegarve: not just one pair at all, |pg||
nt|vlad9: we have 1st  and 3th place at last year european championship in Antalia in the open pairs and also 1st place in mixed pairs|pg||
nt|thegarve: the common system it seems is precision @C|pg||
mb|1H|nt|vdoubleu: Welcome to Larry Cohen:)|pg||
nt|lc: Hi everyone.  I'm still worn out, though from the Open Trials last week.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: So you may have some other table results, but of course we're the fast table so the results from the other table will be late - sorry!|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|vlad9: there is a bunch of other strong results also|pg||
nt|thegarve: the only reason to pull the double is if it was artificial|pg||
nt|eamongall: test|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|eamongall: oh we got fake irishman martin garvey commentating :)|pg||
nt|thegarve: to be sure, Eamon|pg||
nt|vlad9: danger ofgetting toohigh |pg||
nt|vlad9: garvey   an Irish name?|pg||
nt|thegarve: a real paddy, me, full of green blood with no artificial additives|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: OK, thex Jan|pg||
mb|3N|nt|vdoubleu: welcome to Inon Liran|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: 2@h Muiderberg showing 2 suits less than opening count..... some play this extremely low|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: agressive bid by Marc , i think |pg||
nt|h_karluk: weak bicolor-2N relay asks lower suit; competition -- relative vul|pg||
nt|xenya: indeed, but also quite reasonable in my view|pg||
nt|jaapfr: funny DD with @H lead E makes 6NT here lol|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: I think N should have DBL 2N if he plans to bid 3N later|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes|pg||
nt|mariner1: not that it would change things here, however it would alert S|pg||
nt|xenya: perhaps the double would have implied spades?|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: or pass all the time , more reasonnable i think|pg||
nt|moen: i dont like 2@h whats wrong with pass on 1@s|pg||
nt|thegarve: the secret is out - very much so vlad|pg||
mb|p|nt|eamongall: Yes at the other table is his fellow tribe member playing |pg||
nt|thegarve: I am no relation to Tommy Garvey, who is on the team|pg||
nt|inonli: Hi all|pg||
pc|s2|nt|vlad9: good but not enough by NS   - 5 imps to ireland |pg||
nt|lc: The defense won't know to lead @H (A low one disastrous) but they can switch later.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Garber asks about the spot card lead and I think that Bates said attitude|pg||
pc|s6|nt|xenya: can he make this? -- looks very close |pg||
nt|eamongall: same tribe originally in some way |pg||
pc|sJ|nt|sybarra: hardly a 6 card suit worth advertising is it?  (agreeing with you Fred)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: we all agree i think|pg||
nt|jaapfr: there are 12 tricks but E will sweat for this 3nt|pg||
nt|sybarra: South name is Vroutis,  when you get a chance operator |pg||
nt|sybarra: Vroustis |pg||
nt|sybarra: Vroustis,  (is correct spelling) |pg||
nt|jaapfr: the operators are lousy:(|pg||
nt|thegarve: I wonder why he pulled the double?|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|jaapfr: wanted to say lousy quiet    sorry|pg||
nt|vugraphecd: merci|pg||
nt|jaapfr: je vous en pris:)|pg||
nt|sybarra: they are trying best Jaap,  and sometimes the players sit before AND play before operator is ready |pg||
nt|lc: Declarer could win and knock out @DA first and try to give no clues.  Or run @C first and hope for the best.|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d6|nt|sybarra: in USA trials,  I had great cooperation from players experience on vugraph,  who waited until I was ready |pg||
pc|dJ|nt|mariner1: no because @c will not come in|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|lc: @D6 probably non-Smith Echo.  Saying -- Don't return the suit I led.|pg||
nt|lc: Thus a @H shift would be the logical choice for Bates now.|pg||
pc|h5|nt|moen: scared them away :)|pg||
pc|hK|nt|mariner1: now he has a shot|pg||
nt|h_karluk: double may be an option- east wld surely bid. So South's attitude also important. Bompis likely committed himself to be there.|pg||
nt|xenya: suppose he wins 2nd diamond and plays on clubs...|pg||
nt|jaapfr: yesterday my operator whilst commentating said you must say something nasty to get our attention(was a joke of course) but he was right:) lol|pg||
nt|Walddk2: From the lead West is likely marked with a 3-1-4-5 shape|pg||
nt|inonli: they can play @h and try to give him a guess...|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h2|nt|h_karluk: to me doubling firstly is simply a constructive philosophy|pg||
nt|Walddk6: running scores: http://tinyurl.com/5tung5|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: time stop|pg||
nt|thegarve: East would only have been able to cash 3 Acess|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|s9|pg||
nt|vlad9: no idea  -afraid  of comparing  100 or 300  to   620  if  declarer has a long minor maybe|pg||
nt|thegarve: nearly all balanced hands should pass, partner is not asking you for an opinion|pg||
nt|lc: Yes,  declarer could guess @H correctly even on @h switch -- and seems to have done so.|pg||
nt|lc: Certainly was with the odds to play for the 9 onside (instead of AQJ with North).|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Bates has put his cards down on the table folded up and is thinking.|pg||
pc|h7|nt|vlad9: agree |pg||
pc|c5|nt|mariner1: hi all|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg||
nt|lc: For those wondering, this is the Round of 8 -- and all 4 matches end at Board 60 tonight.  All 4 matches close.|pg||
pc|cK|nt|sybarra: all greek watchers happy now with South name |pg||
pc|c8|nt|mariner1: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/08Pau/asp/Participants.asp  -  teams|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|jaapfr: but with all their bidding NS scared East so much here|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|nt|moen: might go down on this now|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|d2|nt|jaapfr: @DK?|pg||
pc|d8|nt|mariner1: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/ebl/2008PauFrance/syscards.asp  -  convention cards|pg||
pc|dK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hT|pc|s4|nt|h_karluk: By the term discipline , 1st & 2nd pre-empts never hold outside controls ,  Suits for weak two’s are not destructive Jxxxxx or the like . North knows it and tries.|pg||
nt|lc: This is the "Seniors" Trials to select U.S. Beijing team.   |pg||
pc|d3|pc|h9|pg||
pc|cA|nt|jaapfr: i suppose it is 4@C C|pg||
mc|9|nt|lc: "Seniors" is in quotes, since most of these guys are younger than the average ACBL player.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: :)|pg||
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qx|c47|st||md|1SJ43HQ765DA9CJ743,SAK9HKDQ532CKQT65,SQ852HAJ92DT876C8,ST76HT843DKJ4CA92|sv|n|nt|rialc2: Peccato|pg||
nt|minnie lee: si vede che non a ha "letto" @s 8 come single|pg||
nt|brolucius: On the face of it, Bocchi declined to cue-bid in clubs because of his awful trumps - but maybe the auction was artificial.|pg||
nt|copeyj: Not very typically Spanish looking surnames here :)|pg||
nt|chmitty: 4@s banal en Sud|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: qu'on n'arrêtera pas facilement avant la manche|pg||
mb|1N|nt|copeyj: close 3NT for e/w here... *cold* as the cards lie|pg||
nt|ritong: un joli 4@s, pas facile apres l ouverture de 1SA, mais EW pratiquent le SA faible non vunérable|pg||
mb|p|nt|copeyj: 1@H=4+@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: noi tutti confidiamo che angelini non entri con le @H .....|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Hearts is the weak suit, but South will not be able to lead them.|pg||
nt|mgchat: doivent pas jouer le michael (lol)|pg||
nt|chmitty: 2@d bicolore @s + @c |pg||
pc|s2|nt|copeyj: well he is able to lead them David. That would not be a testing defence for declarer though :)|pg||
mc|10|nt|mgchat: ci Pierre|pg||
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qx|o48|st||md|2SQJ93HAQ53D5CQT87,S64HJT874DQ74CA94,SAT752H6DAJ86CK52,SK8HK92DKT932CJ63|sv|e|nt|h_karluk: In constructive auctions , partners bids are always taken at face value.|pg||
nt|sybarra: *psych |pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: bet not,  uness a phsyce|pg||
nt|jaapfr: too much salt, sand, wind and heat here at the beach:(|pg||
mb|1S|nt|lc: In this match, MELTZER was a big favorite.  TRITT victory would be an upset.|pg||
mb|p|nt|vdoubleu: Easy 4@s here.|pg||
nt|lc: In strong @C system, 4@S quite possible now.|pg||
nt|lc: Slam unlikely, so just make a pressure jump to 4@S -- makes it difficult on opps in bidding and on defense.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Agree.|pg||
nt|lc: One of the strongest plusses in a big @C system.  |pg||
nt|lc: I love to bid 1M-4M raise -- biggest single winning action bid in our system (Precision).|pg||
nt|lc: So, what's taking Bates so long?  Maybe he thinks slam is possible?|pg||
nt|lc: Maybe considering 4@D splinter?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: He's been studying his hand, thinking|pg||
nt|lc: I suppose a 4@D splinter would be my choice opposite an unlimited opening bid.|pg||
mb|4S|an|wide-ranging|nt|mariner1: easy 4@s game EW |pg||
nt|vlad9: 2di  = tfer   hearts  any strength|pg||
nt|mariner1: can make slam here I think by setting up W|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphec1: sry previous baord , Marc put the K @d under the ace so -1 and not -3|pg||
nt|mariner1: @s by E is a 1N type positive response and denies 4@s probably|pg||
nt|h_karluk: it's OK|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: i dont see the card ;)|pg||
nt|h_karluk: :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|thegarve: transfers are a very good idea, especially in limited systems|pg||
pc|c3|nt|Walddk10: Welcome to Tony Reus|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Sontag asks about leads - 3/5|pg||
nt|lc: I could see N-S getting too high here at some tables.  They might survive 5@S -- but not 6.|pg||
pc|c7|nt|xenya: 3N by W is also fine|pg||
nt|sybarra: south and west are screenmates,  likely bid being entered together |pg||
nt|starkist: thx, hi|pg||
nt|eamongall: thats Tuna as I recall from theo ld okbridge |pg||
nt|thegarve: South had a 3@H call in the first and was fortunate to have another bite|pg||
nt|vlad9: yes allow you  to  compete freely not promissing anything but the suit|pg||
nt|starkist: your memory serves you well|pg||
nt|lc: RKCB should keep any pairs from reaching 6, though.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: yes, 2 keycards missing shld give pause.|pg||
nt|lc: Not much to the play here, so a little note about the teams in this event...|pg||
pc|cA|nt|vugraphec1: yes|pg||
nt|sybarra: e/n on the other side of screen |pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|lc: Last week, the OPEN trials were held.|pg||
nt|lc: Almost every team here (Seniors) has players that were in the Open.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: AAh, you remember them:)|pg||
nt|lc: So, it wasn't until a week ago that any one knew who would be free for which teams.|pg||
pc|c4|nt|jaapfr: it can be made but....|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Hi John|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Rob:)|pg||
nt|swanson: Hi all.|pg||
nt|mariner1: hi Val and John|pg||
pc|c2|nt|h_karluk: Is it a poor gambling?|pg||
nt|mariner1: 3N can make if he plays carefully|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|thegarve: if he had bid 3H he wouyld have receive a @s lead now he should lead a @D|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|mariner1: well 2@d DBL is a little short of the slam as bid in Open|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Jan is working on getting us the score comparisons.|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s4|nt|h_karluk: deciding with @hQx ?|pg||
nt|xenya: although i don't see how W could be sure about a @H stopper with partner|pg||
nt|h_karluk: :)|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: 1 @s si alerted as : say 1nt p |pg||
nt|sybarra: E does not wand to lead trumps on this hand |pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pg||
nt|h_karluk: The destructive style is based on poor gambling . You are gambling that the opponents do the wrong thing & partner does not get in the way by believing you . This style of Bridge ...|pg||
nt|h_karluk: works best in weak fields where you are taking advantage of the opponents inexperience in dealing with such situations .  Your system is geared towards destructive bidding so ...|pg||
nt|h_karluk: single handed decisions are the norm .|pg||
nt|xenya: ah that's different|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://www.usbf.org/    Tournament site|pg||
nt|swanson: Slam is available in hearts but it is very tough for Morse not to go for a penalty.|pg||
nt|lc: So, my partner, David Berkowitz, sadly became free for the Seniors when we lost the finals to NICKELL.|pg||
pc|c6|nt|moen: i bet they make 2@s|pg||
pc|c8|nt|vlad9: going overboard here it seams|pg||
nt|eamongall: looks like 1 off ....using my own noodle barring endplays |pg||
nt|thegarve: fast auction and 4@H would have made, not now|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pg||
nt|thegarve: how have Ireland been playing so far Eamon, you must have watrched a fair bit?|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch many vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't, ...|pg||
nt|mariner1: Open one browser window per table|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer will score four trump tricks and his heart ace, so only -500 against a potential 920 for E-W.|pg||
nt|swanson: 980, that is.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Welcome to Margie Gwozdzinsky.|pg||
nt|lc: I am not eligble for this event.    Yet ....    |pg||
nt|gosia: hi|pg||
pc|s5|nt|mariner1: yes they invert the 1@s and 1N response to keep best hand playing contract|pg||
nt|jaapfr: unless he tries to trump another @H|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|nt|jaapfr: @ST|pg||
nt|eamongall: Ireland have been struggling and surviving |pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|starkist: potatoes holding out|pg||
nt|thegarve: I was brought up eating potatoes with every meal|pg||
nt|eamongall: got a good bang out of Malta last round ..but most teams have got a good score there ...49/ 200 and that includes the sitout for Malta|pg||
nt|eamongall: an irish kib says in responce to martins question ... "really struggling, and barely surviving!"|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: :)|pg||
mc|11|nt|vlad9: malta came in Pau on an  excursion obviously|pg||
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qx|c48|st||md|2SQJ93HAQ53D5CQT87,S64HJT874DQ74CA94,SAT752H6DAJ86CK52,SK8HK92DKT932CJ63|sv|e|nt|figb_rama: 3@D est|pg||
nt|figb_rama: 2 senza Alfrredo = trasf per @C|pg||
nt|figb_rama: fine|pg||
mb|p|nt|figb_rama: 3@D Est|pg||
mb|1S|nt|rialc2: molto bene|pg||
nt|ritong: nord va avoir un choix|pg||
nt|chmitty: quand ça va revenir à 4@d ?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|ritong: ah la c est plus simple|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: North's 1NT promises a fifth-round heart stopper.|pg||
nt|copeyj: and prevented e/w finding their @S fit|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: perdiamo solo qualche IMP's|pg||
nt|minnie lee: con la mano di N e la vulnerabilità avrei detto 1@h al passaggio|pg||
nt|mgchat: idem de l'autre coté on gagne rien finalement (((|pg||
mb|p|pc|h2|nt|reisig: Duboin is mumbling .."he never leads my suit!"|pg||
nt|royhughes: Maybe declarer will|pg||
nt|vugraphec2: donne 2 3P chez Levy Mouiel|pg||
nt|ritong: bonjour bernard|pg||
mc|11|nt|chmitty: salut bernard|pg||
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qx|o49|st||md|3S953HQT4DT543CK75,SKQ64HJ872DJ92CT6,SJHA95D876CAQJ983,SAT872HK63DAKQC42|sv|o|nt|mariner1: right John, very tough decision for E to make at the 2 level,,,,,, early to be thinking slam|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Fircely contested match, the Finals.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: *e*|pg||
nt|lc: I;m still trying to recover.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Nickell  came roaring back.|pg||
mb|2C|an|6+ clubs, opening bid|nt|sybarra: well so much for the bet Fred |pg||
nt|moen: :)|pg||
nt|lc: As usual.|pg||
mb|2S|nt|vdoubleu: :)|pg||
nt|lc: 2@C precision  Natural|pg||
nt|lc: Prob 3@C raise now.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Hard for East to stop in 3 here.|pg||
nt|lc: Gotta' Follow the LAW with those 9 trumps.  |pg||
mb|3C|nt|sybarra: this is a better 6 card @H suit than the last |pg||
nt|jaapfr: i put 1000 drinks on 2@S not made:)|pg||
nt|baldjean: I am abck. sorry for the interruption, but when you have kids these things happen. they flooded our bathroom|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: http://www.usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USSBC2008/Bracket.php?stage=Roundof8|pg||
mb|3S|nt|lc: So, 3@S seems normal.|pg||
nt|lc: And so does raising to 4.|pg||
mb|p|nt|h_karluk: was risky, anyway result is a flat one|pg||
nt|mariner1: 2@d a form of multi here with weak 2 in @s|pg||
nt|xenya: nice save by the French in CR?|pg||
nt|sybarra: omg|pg||
mb|4S|nt|mariner1: 3@h is game invitational in @s,,, surprised W did not bid 4|pg||
nt|vlad9: which team will be the major surprise this time - what do u think?|pg||
nt|mariner1: pretty straight forward 1N here..... all in how he plays at to   of tricks|pg||
mb|p|nt|thegarve: ok - guess my location - and my beverage|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: of course strange E would invite game|pg||
nt|starkist: couch, beer|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: here it worked 1 level lower|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: There should be field protection here.|pg||
nt|lc: 4@S, due to the duplicated shape is no good -- needs a @H miracle which isn't there.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Mirror-images in the minors kills this game.|pg||
pc|cK|nt|eamongall: I vote for Denmark ..as a major surprise ... |pg||
nt|swanson: With East declarer, nine tricks would come home.  This is 9 tricks also now.|pg||
nt|lc: Yes, the "field" consisting of the Closed Room rates to reach the same doomed contract.|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|thegarve: pub with Guinness in hand...some would say I'm biased|pg||
pc|c4|nt|jaapfr: this 2@S has a better chance to be made|pg||
pc|c7|nt|mariner1: 3@h is pass or correct however it USUALLY asks for game if in @s|pg||
nt|mariner1: @d lead gives up a trick,,, |pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|xenya: to be fair, not much chance for NS to get in -- nor at any other tables i think|pg||
nt|mariner1: obviously E was just using it as destructive bidding,,, however he was not broke so a mystery to me|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|lc: So, declarer will strip the hand and try hearts -- but nothing good can happen on this layout.|pg||
nt|lc: If North held @HAx, he would have to be alert enough to rise ACE on the first round--or he would get endplayed.|pg||
nt|lc: With @HAxx he is in no danger.|pg||
nt|lc: Anyway, declarer will have trouble stripping since @SW 3-1|pg||
pc|sA|nt|moen: yes cant go wrong here|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|nt|eamongall: sure thats a great place to be ... |pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s8|nt|jaapfr: 1 imp for monaco so 14-12|pg||
pc|s3|nt|baldjean: lots of IMPs for 3 boards already|pg||
nt|eamongall: advertise ..which pub |pg||
nt|vlad9: another small pick up to ireland|pg||
nt|thegarve: my usual please barman|pg||
pc|sK|nt|vlad9: they get imps from every board so far|pg||
nt|gosia: everyone wants to know how old you are Larry ? how far to the seniors ?|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d8|nt|sybarra: yes we seem to be throwing them in the air |pg||
nt|jaapfr: yes first board an unhappy slam\|pg||
nt|lc: Since they can look it up, I won't hide it.   49.  |pg||
nt|vdoubleu: They keep chaging the years Margie:)|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|nt|mariner1: we can see a @s worked better heres however the @d had more appeal for extra tricks in a low level contract|pg||
nt|swanson: Too many heart discards - declarer is going to take 10 now.|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|h_karluk: I wld prefer 2 @h there ..2@s =  pass or ready to be on 3@h if you opened 6pcs @H..too high for me with a balanced|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|lc: Seniors will need to be 60 once things settle in (I think 58 right now).|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|c8|pg||
nt|lc: It's not an event I am looking forward to :)|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|nt|gosia: one more chance to go to Beijing :)|pg||
nt|lc: I never got to play in the Juniors.  They were invented when I was too old for them.|pg||
nt|gosia: as was I|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: I think that it's 58 this year, then jumps up to 60 next and stays there - note that's the WBF Senior age, not ACBL|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Yes, 58|pg||
nt|gosia: K and another onlychance here|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|nt|jaapfr: i  miss why S is thinking|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: No not really, because w/Ax North would have risen|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h3|nt|sybarra: now a claim |pg||
nt|baldjean: me too; can't hurt to pull one round of trumps|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c49|st||md|3S953HQT4DT543CK75,SKQ64HJ872DJ92CT6,SJHA95D876CAQJ983,SAT872HK63DAKQC42|sv|o|nt|norby: pewccato nn sia un mithell|pg||
nt|vugraphec3: l'ha giocata anche a 100 al'ora|pg||
nt|royhughes: well done|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|reisig: 1@h?|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: Quelle entame en Sud sur l'ouverture de 1SA en Est ?|pg||
mb|3S!|nt|copeyj: prefer it to 2@h richie|pg||
nt|chmitty: 6 de @h ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|copeyj: :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: A little joke from the operator.|pg||
nt|reisig: me too|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: sorry|pg||
nt|copeyj: 2nd seat vul, that is not a 2@h opener for me|pg||
mb|4S|nt|brolucius: No, we enjoyed it!|pg||
nt|ritong: avec toi|pg||
mb|p|nt|reisig: will prob be a push|pg||
nt|copeyj: nice hand for poker though|pg||
nt|copeyj: J high straight flush|pg||
nt|reisig: maybe ..this is time for getting coffee|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am sure Knap will be glad to have at least one commentator supporting his 2@H opening. Automatic, for me.|pg||
mb|p|nt|caruga: 2 cuori chiede|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: giocano le sottoaperture proprio serie. Penso che in chiusa apriranno a 1|pg||
nt|chmitty: La dame de @s peut affranchir trois levées en flanc ... ou pour le déclarant|pg||
nt|ritong: santos est plus entreprenant que nous|pg||
pc|c7|nt|royhughes: I don't mind 2@h opening -- it will not get safer to come in later|pg||
nt|chmitty: les @d 33 et l'impasse @h ça fait 7 levées de toute façon|pg||
mc|9|nt|norby: passano in chiusa|pg||
nt|chmitty: ou plutôt on donne as et roi de @c sry|pg||
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qx|o50|st||md|4SJ7HQJT5DA65CQJ42,SAQ5H8DKQT32C9853,SKT9863H9643D7CT7,S42HAK72DJ984CAK6|sv|n|nt|sybarra: Monaco hanging in there |pg||
nt|sybarra: these "little" imps add up|pg||
nt|thegarve: The Princess Royale in Colliers Wood near Wimbledon|pg||
mb|1N|nt|mariner1: yes not much reason to take this beyond the 2 level|pg||
nt|jaapfr: better NS not much higher than 1NT here|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: i'm told Belgium did get to 4@H -- well done|pg||
nt|baldjean: "Kleinvieh maxcht auch Mist", as a German proverb says. translated it means "small cattle produce manure too"|pg||
nt|mariner1: maybe Trevor missed a play...... hard to see all the cards at at table|pg||
nt|lc: This looks like a normal 3NT.|pg||
nt|lc: Some pairs have ability to respond 3@H splinter with West hand -- making it easy to reach 3NT.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Q10 blank w/South, only hope then.|pg||
nt|lc: I prefer to use 3MAJ response to 1NT that way (0-1 cards, GF).|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: We just got our 1st score comparison!|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: More to follow:)|pg||
nt|lc: A splinter to 3@H need not promise 4@S (There is room to sort it out).|pg||
nt|lc: A splinter to 3@S, I prefer to show 4@H (so opener can bid 4@H with 4 hearts).|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Usually shows fragment ---5/4/3/1 with 3 cds in the M|pg||
mb|2N!|an|!ds|nt|h_karluk: Playing this style , partnership confidence is put at risk |pg||
mb|p|nt|thegarve: the landlord is a mate of mine from Belfast, Paddy Murphy, of course|pg||
mb|3D!|an|!d fit|nt|moen: Ew can get in trouble|pg||
mb|p|nt|baldjean: macht, not maxcht|pg||
nt|eamongall:  another irish kibitzer says "am in a beer garden in Frankfuirt - waiting for the football on big screen - beats the Regent any day!|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: 3NT works better here: it makes.|pg||
mb|3H|an|SPL|nt|thegarve: they will probably pass 4@h out|pg||
mb|p|nt|h_karluk: In competitive auctions , you believe the opponents rather than partner.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: better 2@H bid by E|pg||
nt|jaapfr: now EW in big trouble|pg||
nt|vlad9: part score battle here   -  dbl  shows both minors|pg||
nt|vlad9: 3he is the last spot most probably with no di support  from e|pg||
nt|starkist: tempting to bid 4@c and play it there|pg||
nt|lc: This method certainly works out well -- getting to show @D and also the short @H.|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|mariner1: am told 3@h here shows preemptive values in BOTH majors|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: and that sort of does make sense in that auction|pg||
nt|xenya: coffee hand|pg||
nt|h_karluk: In fact , the opponents guide you through the auction rather than partner. This works well if partner does not have his bid but back fires if partner does have his bid & the ...|pg||
nt|h_karluk: opponents do not . |pg||
nt|glenne: thanks|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: True.|pg||
mb|p|nt|baldjean: uh-oh|pg||
nt|lc: Even though I don't like conventions, it is crucial for all pairs to discuss all these 1NT auctions -- a bit of a pain.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Had East not been so well-upholstered in hearts, a usueful process.|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|vlad9: oo   he  thinks  he has di support:)|pg||
nt|thegarve: a clear overbid|pg||
nt|mariner1: soit looks like EW are not playing Puppet|pg||
nt|swanson: I agree with Dan's 2NT opening, even if it systemically shows 20-21.  Partner is a passes hand and he wants to protect his tenaces.|pg||
nt|mariner1: hi Glenn|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Then there wld be hands where 6@d makes & 3NT has no chance.|pg||
nt|lc: Val-- that's the first time I've seen "upholstered" used in bridge lingo.  Can I steal that for my articles?|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Sure thing!|pg||
pc|h8|nt|mariner1: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/ebl/2008PauFrance/syscards.asp  -  convention cards|pg||
nt|sybarra: undoubled..."only 50's" |pg||
nt|jaapfr: afraid pass  by S imo|pg||
nt|glenne: they definitely don't playpuppet, laughed when i even asked first halp|pg||
nt|glenne: half|pg||
pc|h3|nt|moen: he must have seen a lot of -670|pg||
nt|baldjean: lots of 50s though|pg||
nt|jaapfr: :)|pg||
nt|sybarra: not sure why W felt compelled to bid again on a misfit |pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|starkist: not even a good save|pg||
pc|d9|nt|sybarra: but agree with you jaap  @H better to begin with but easy for us to see |pg||
nt|jaapfr: against 580 can go a lot down here|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|nt|eamongall: to that german based kibitzer ... Regent Bar is far better except for that barman chappie who keeps asking for money |pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|d8|nt|vdoubleu: Change just 2 cards: the hearts (ace & king) and make them diamond ace & spade K|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Not out of the realm of possibility.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: On Board 47, a pickup for Tritt, when Bramley chose to open an off-shape 1NT & played it there.|pg||
pc|d6|nt|h_karluk: That biz is by necessity a “master minding” approach . You can not pass the ball to partner as either of you might not have your bid . The opponents escape unscathed because you ...|pg||
nt|h_karluk: are “compensating” for partner not having his bid . This is a win win situation for the opponents . Sacrificing is a pure gamble as we do not know if we have defensive tricks or ...|pg||
nt|h_karluk: not . |pg||
nt|sybarra: 11 50's |pg||
pc|d3|nt|sybarra: or so |pg||
nt|baldjean: if at all he should have chosen 2@h as a bid, which would have given East a chance to correct to 2@s if that was any better|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|mariner1: very good point about E's tenaces|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|nt|jaapfr: if X means i have majors than 2@H a must imo|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s6|pg||
nt|lc: Only 10 more deals after this -- trailing teams won't be happy with this tame set (so far).|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Welcome to Harmon Edgar:)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: I think Sontag actually played a high spade then the 3 - he turned the first one before I could see it, but just played the 3|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|harmon: hi everyone|pg||
nt|lc: In U.S. National events, each day the match is 64 Deals.  In the Trials, only 60.|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|sybarra: yes 2 @H would be pass or correct (to me)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: morse deep in thought|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: Morse|pg||
nt|lc: In the Open Trials, though, the late-round matches are 2-days each (120 deals).|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: But seem to take longer (Trials)|pg||
mc|9|nt|baldjean: I agree, Jaap|pg||
nt|lc: Here, all the matches are 60 -- even the dinals.|pg||
nt|lc: finals.|pg||
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qx|c50|st||md|4SJ7HQJT5DA65CQJ42,SAQ5H8DKQT32C9853,SKT9863H9643D7CT7,S42HAK72DJ984CAK6|sv|n|nt|minnie lee: strano pero|pg||
nt|norby: invece si deve giocare forcing 1 giro|pg||
nt|rialc2: no dicevo il 2SA di risposta al relais|pg||
nt|caruga: minimo|pg||
nt|juan lukas: bonjour a tous :)|pg||
nt|chmitty: salut :)|pg||
nt|ritong: salut jean luc:)|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|norby: perche nn ha il forcing manche se il compagno nn ha fit a cuori|pg||
nt|rialc2: minimo???!|pg||
mb|3H!|nt|copeyj: anyone for 2@D as east?|pg||
nt|brolucius: After 7 rounds, Spain lie 11th out of 19, with the first 9 teams in each half of the draw to go through to the second section of the championship. Italy are just 2nd to Finland.|pg||
nt|reisig: They prob use that for something else|pg||
nt|copeyj: or even 3@D as a German junior suggests to me :)|pg||
nt|royhughes: A 2@d preempt would be normal in America, if not 3|pg||
mb|p|nt|caruga: veramente la loro Convention dice forzante un giro|pg||
mb|3N|nt|norby: facciamo commenti a carte coperte please:-))))))))))))|pg||
nt|royhughes: The Italians have traditionally not required much high card strength for a simple overcall|pg||
mb|p|nt|minnie lee: se 2SA è relay, alora S poteva licitare 3@c|pg||
nt|royhughes: Duboin goes quietly|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk4: running scores: http://tinyurl.com/5tung5|pg||
nt|figb_rama: alla 4 in chiusa non ci hanno messo a nostro agio|pg||
nt|royhughes: warned by the 1N bid|pg||
mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|ritong: en face d un 2@h "positif", je nommerais carrément la manche|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o51|st||md|1ST83HK53D765CJ873,S75HA2DAQT94C9654,SKJ92HQJ8764D8CA2,SAQ64HT9DKJ32CKQT|sv|e|nt|mariner1: 4@h makes EW|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: not a good strat for france|pg||
nt|sybarra: most likely will be surprised to win 10 |pg||
nt|vlad9: mcgann is trying to get opps tire |pg||
nt|eamongall: uh oh Garveys pub must be closed or he spilt his guinness |pg||
nt|vlad9: tired  sry|pg||
nt|thegarve: 3NT looks the spot|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: http://www.usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USSBC2008/Bracket.php?stage=Roundof8|pg||
nt|lc: I prefer 60 by the way (leaves more time to wind down after the day).|pg||
mb|p|nt|vdoubleu: 5@d|pg||
nt|lc: There are players (Meckstroth, Rodwell for 2) that routinely open West's hand.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: I'm getting the bidding from the other room from a kibitzer, but I just guessed at compass positions, so it might have been Stansby who opened the off shape 1NT|pg||
nt|fifee: good evening everyone :) |pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: NS can save or even make 4@s|pg||
mb|1H|nt|baldjean: slam in @s here|pg||
nt|vlad9: good rezult for bulgaria  in the open room here|pg||
nt|thegarve: yes you have to cut off dummy|pg||
nt|glenne: gave zeke a chance to make that when they didn't lead a trump but led a spade|pg||
nt|glenne: but we were down one undoubled|pg||
nt|glenne: they bid a good grand to push the board|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: OK, thx.|pg||
mb|d|nt|vugraphec1: yes good defense|pg||
nt|starkist: 1f 2n gets raised that is|pg||
nt|chip: The world championships are also moving to fewer boards a day, so players aren't as worn down at the end.|pg||
mb|2H!|an|worst raise|nt|h_karluk: Ý m not sure 3@c is a sound call with 11 HCP at 3rd seat|pg||
nt|swanson: Whatever bid South makes will not show his potential in three suits.  But without a fit it doesn't make much difference on this hand.|pg||
mb|3D|nt|xenya: may be systemic|pg||
nt|moen: willget there now i think|pg||
nt|jaapfr: btw our operator is doing better and better and finer altough is not saying too much:)|pg||
nt|lc: That's good, too.  It was too grueling in the past.|pg||
mb|3H|nt|xenya: 10-13, good 6 carder |pg||
nt|vugraphec1: now marc must pass|pg||
nt|h_karluk: in a lower ranking suit; if next opp has bigger values just helps to underline distribution at an early stage.|pg||
nt|mariner1: well if he bids and forces them to game he has to bid 4 too|pg||
nt|fifee: we are testing voice bbo commentary for this match. If you would like to join us, go to http://pl.bridgebase.eu/vugraph/|pg||
nt|chip: yes, bridge was often "tired" at the end.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Thx Pat:)|pg||
nt|lc: Very in fashion these days to raise 1MAJ to 2MAJ after double on garbage -- as Bates did here.|pg||
mb|4D|nt|lc: Most experts these days use "1-under" after the double to show a real raise.|pg||
nt|chip: particularly when you want a heart lead.|pg||
mb|p|nt|starkist: would prob go vul|pg||
nt|mariner1: 2@c showing 1 suit here|pg||
mb|5D|nt|glenne: this one should be a push, three diamonds down one and two diamonds down one|pg||
nt|swanson: Using a convention which doesn't bring spades into the picture seems inadequate to me.|pg||
nt|mariner1: in Open S raised to 3@d not crediting the big NT on his left much|pg||
nt|glenne: onstott has more faith in drew's declarer play than steve does in his own...lol|pg||
nt|mariner1: what do you play here John?|pg||
nt|swanson: I use Woolsey with some partners, revised DONT with others.|pg||
nt|mariner1: I am a DONT fan myself|pg||
mb|p|nt|vlad9: 5 imps back|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Welcome to Nik Demirev|pg||
nt|vlad9: welcome nik|pg||
nt|ndemirev: hello everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|ndemirev: zdr Vlado |pg||
nt|thegarve: hi nik|pg||
nt|thegarve: zdr means?|pg||
nt|vlad9: Nik was my  regular partner  when he lived in Bulgaria|pg||
nt|ndemirev: "hi"|pg||
nt|vlad9: zdr   means  hi|pg||
nt|ndemirev: zdravei = hello |pg||
nt|vlad9: it was many years ago |pg||
nt|thegarve: it has no vowels, how do you pronounce it?|pg||
nt|starkist: saved letters on "nik"|pg||
nt|vlad9: difficult:)|pg||
nt|swanson: With Woolsey you would double to show four of a major and a longer minor.|pg||
mb|p|nt|fifee: If you need help with the program, Mumble, santyclz and I are available!|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|mariner1: now to make it for a big swing|pg||
nt|ndemirev: good question :) |pg||
nt|lc: So, a nice result here for TRITT -- as 5@D can't help but make.|pg||
nt|harmon: Pat I need help, I dont know about any program but I need help!!!!!|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h5|nt|thegarve: miming it?|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|h_karluk: there they are..as rip Terence Reese issued on Advanced Bridge Play-caption : they told too much:)|pg||
nt|xenya: very well done by the french in both rooms|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes good fror france anyway ,|pg||
nt|mariner1: he will have a restricted choice position in @d likely.......|pg||
nt|harmon: yes Looby made a good raise|pg||
nt|lc: I know many of you watched golf this week.  TRITT over MELTZER?  (Think Rocco over Tiger).  |pg||
pc|d4|nt|baldjean: looks like a try for grand|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|nt|thegarve: this will be off too|pg||
nt|mariner1: that would work here.......both DONT and Woolsey might end in either 2@h likely or 2@s|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: he can win if he find all|pg||
nt|moen: askin for 3. round control in @d i think|pg||
nt|baldjean: will be claimed fast|pg||
nt|sybarra: this is easy,  agree, Jeanine |pg||
pc|d2|nt|ndemirev: its just an internet abbreviation like "pd" for partner :) |pg||
pc|d6|nt|swanson: You would probably end in 2@S.|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h4|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, but even he doesn't, will be a huge gain anyway|pg||
nt|mariner1: off is 11 and making is 14|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes|pg||
nt|eamongall: The irish based rueful rabbit ...a secretive bridge animal ....http://ruefulr.blogspot.com/|pg||
pc|c6|nt|sybarra: its just sort of pesky that spades are 3/1  but affects nothing |pg||
pc|cA|nt|eamongall: http://ruefulr.blogspot.com/|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c3|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ndemirev: ducking the @h lead was essential |pg||
pc|hT|nt|onebid: Hi Larry|pg||
pc|hK|nt|vlad9: dimond to the queen  and is home|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|thegarve: his only hope was to take the first @h, quite possible with the weak two showing 6|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dT|nt|thegarve: and to keep East on play losing 2@s and 2@d|pg||
pc|h6|nt|vlad9: its cold even now|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|jaapfr: my screen keeps on to be filled by a wojela2       yours too?|pg||
nt|swanson: With Woolsey (2@D by North, asking for major)|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
nt|xenya: he will get @Ds right i think |pg||
mc|11|nt|Vugraphu7: Short break|pg||
nt|sybarra: http://voice.bridgebase.com/vugraph/ follow these instructions   we are voicing this room |pg||
nt|lc: For those that don't know, Sontag is in the top 1% as far as speediness goes.|pg||
nt|chip: note that South's 10xx of spades prevents 3N from making. Otherwise N would be triple squeezed on the diamonds.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Welcome Judy Bramley:)|pg||
nt|lc: That's a worthwhile note, Chip, since I can see E-W reaching 3NT.|pg||
nt|lc: Chip is on his 3NT analysis mode, since he spent his entire week defending against 3NT by Meckwell last week.|pg||
nt|lc: On every deal, it seemed.|pg||
nt|lc: And trust me, that's not fun.|pg||
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qx|c51|st||md|1ST83HK53D765CJ873,S75HA2DAQT94C9654,SKJ92HQJ8764D8CA2,SAQ64HT9DKJ32CKQT|sv|e|nt|norby: detto....|pg||
nt|rialc2: bene ... ma avrebbe indovinato la Q di @H!|pg||
mb|p|nt|cumino: Avevo paura rivalutasse teste e quinta|pg||
mb|p|nt|copeyj: here is the big hand you were after David|pg||
mb|1H|nt|copeyj: a good 6@S contract|pg||
nt|brolucius: Ah, the big stuff has arrived.|pg||
nt|chmitty: Hervé a cambriolé 4@h sur la 3|pg||
mb|d|mb|2D!|nt|copeyj: Wasik will surely break the transfer|pg||
nt|chmitty: quand le flanc a oublié de jouer @s à la deuxième levée|pg||
mb|d|nt|ritong: d après mes infos, c etait a la arsene lupin|pg||
mb|2H|nt|rialc2: secondo m 6@C li avrebbe fatti ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: I have a private line to the Great Shuffler.|pg||
nt|reisig: Tough to reach this ..I thk|pg||
nt|copeyj: interesting decision not to|pg||
nt|chmitty: élminitaion mise en mains au revoir et merci|pg||
nt|mgchat: beau cambriolage|pg||
mb|d|nt|norby: qui si perde....|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I demanded more exciting boards 5 mins ago, and the organisers seem to have complied|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: 3@H un pò conservativo|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|copeyj: erm|pg||
nt|copeyj: is this really the auction? :)|pg||
nt|reisig: I hope not :)|pg||
nt|royhughes: I think Wasik might have tried a cuebid over 3N|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: yes, i asked again|pg||
nt|copeyj: I am afraid|pg||
nt|brolucius: South's pass is very strange indeed. If that is indeed what he has done. His partner might be 5-3-1-4, not strong enough to suggest clubs as a trump suit.|pg||
nt|royhughes: I understand it, 4333 and all, but don't agree|pg||
mb|p|nt|copeyj: I am astonished at the decision|pg||
nt|copeyj: to pass|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our operator is Robin Fellus. Welcome to you, the most important person of them all|pg||
nt|brolucius: I don't understand it at all. Surely 4@S will make opposite a hand with that support.|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: thanks|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: revenons à nos moutons ... qui est favori . déclarant ou flanc ?|pg||
nt|mgchat: malheureusement declarant sur affranchissement des @d|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|juan lukas: hum ...... |pg||
nt|chmitty: et on va les chercher comment ?|pg||
nt|chmitty: si le flanc duque un tour de @d par exemple|pg||
nt|ritong: ça serait une bonne idée de ducker ça|pg||
nt|mgchat: s'il est duque|pg||
nt|juan lukas: il faut duquer une fois a @d en Est , et apparemment le declarant ne fait que 1@d 3@c 2@h 2@s = 8 sauf fin de coup |pg||
nt|chmitty: duquer l'entame d'abord|pg||
nt|ritong: vi|pg||
mc|8|nt|brolucius: It is a matchpoint decision, at best, it seems to me.|pg||
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qx|o52|st||md|2ST86HJDQJ975CQ963,SQHKQ742DK643CAKJ,S92HAT85DAT2CT742,SAKJ7543H963D8C85|sv|b|nt|xenya: indeed|pg||
nt|h_karluk: good decisions|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes the start is better now :) let the frenchis awking :)|pg||
nt|mariner1: 5@d is actually a phantom save here as major game is beatible|pg||
nt|sybarra: yes  and her son is setting up the voice commentary |pg||
nt|sybarra: is an experiment  but getting good comments so far |pg||
nt|ndemirev: basically isporski imporve his line to making vs @CK offside |pg||
nt|thegarve: missed sry asumed 3|pg||
nt|ndemirev: *improved|pg||
nt|harmon: Larry your oppps felt sameway from what I saw|pg||
nt|lc: In our 120 deal final, Meck were in 3NT on 119 of them :)|pg||
nt|harmon: lol|pg||
mb|1H|nt|mariner1: so the match is getting tighter|pg||
mb|p|nt|h_karluk: seems a phantom save|pg||
nt|h_karluk: @c ruffs|pg||
nt|xenya: i can't help feeling however, it all resulted from E's failure to open i 1st seat|pg||
nt|mariner1: 4 of either major playes well here|pg||
mb|1S|nt|vlad9: missed game in open|pg||
mb|p|nt|baldjean: possible grand here|pg||
nt|moen: Grandslam coming up?|pg||
nt|swanson: This preempt is not welcome by South.|pg||
mb|2D|nt|vlad9: want happen here|pg||
mb|p|nt|vlad9: wont|pg||
nt|starkist: seems impossible|pg||
nt|thegarve: would assume 4@S, and a flat board, a chance|pg||
nt|ndemirev: the game has a good play except for @SAQx offside |pg||
nt|thegarve: i would say he won't even make a game try he will just bid it|pg||
nt|starkist: 7 loser|pg||
nt|starkist: vul|pg||
nt|lc: East should insist on @S in most cases here.  He knows of @H fit, but these hands "never" play well as the dummy.|pg||
nt|lc: There is an adage: "Never table an 8-card suit in dummy."  This East hand is the corolary.|pg||
nt|lc: Where is spell-check when you need it?|pg||
nt|lc: Anyway, if 4@S ...|pg||
nt|lc: @H lead, @H ruff, @D over @h ruff.|pg||
mb|3C|nt|h_karluk: lost at both room-tho depends best defense|pg||
nt|mariner1: 2@h Muiderberg showing @h and another suit, less than opening count|pg||
nt|starkist: prime|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: not easy to get to I predict|pg||
nt|moen: no|pg||
nt|baldjean: I agreee; the @d will worry East|pg||
nt|mariner1: in a sense it makes 4@s easier to play as no pesky @d lead (assuming E passed)|pg||
nt|swanson: I use 4@D over 3@C as the red suits and 4@C as spades and one of the red suits.|pg||
nt|lc: 3@C looks to be a curious bid.|pg||
nt|harmon: 3n is best here on the lie of the cards|pg||
nt|lc: I like a 3@S rebid (invitational).  Anyone else?|pg||
nt|lc: 3@S by East, that is -- on Round 2.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: The other table is well behind this one, as we expected would be the case. Hopefully we'll have some more results soon|pg||
mb|3D|nt|mariner1: 4@s also played in N in Open|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: Brod studying opp's convention card|pg||
nt|swanson: I wonder what he expects to find there.|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: 4@H looks quite reasonable on the surface but...|pg||
nt|mariner1: he Closed room score was just changed to off 1|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: ok|pg||
nt|mariner1: the|pg||
nt|xenya: not easy for E to work out S's suit?|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: khokhlov dontread the @c ruff easy|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: he ask the convention card |pg||
nt|vugraphec1: but have the @c in hand|pg||
nt|mariner1: will he cash A@d 1st?|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: maybe |pg||
nt|xenya: he can cash @DA first, hoping to get some signal|pg||
nt|mariner1: if he has @c in hand he will lead it|pg||
nt|h_karluk: Dutch Two opening or off beat Tartan. based on a two-suiter with precisely a fivecard major and a minor suit (fourcard or longer). Unless 2N GF raise not healthy ;for example in ...|pg||
nt|h_karluk: Biedermeijer and AcolPlus. In particular, with a strong hand with an own suit, responder must bid 2NT first as there is no other way to establish a force.|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: he can think Quantin 4 @d and 2 @c |pg||
nt|baldjean: W shows a void there, but he has lots of them|pg||
nt|jaapfr: would be great to find the grand|pg||
nt|lc: The Sontag table is always ahead, yes.  We just played with him as a teammate in a regional and he finished first every time.|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|starkist: maybe the 1n was a warning sign|pg||
nt|mariner1: that is a good question|pg||
nt|lc: It will be hard for Garber to stop low after his partner used 4th suit.|pg||
nt|harmon: 3d seems a strange bid over 3@C|pg||
nt|lc: Presumably the jump to 4@H is "fast arrival" showing the worst.  But I think the 3@C bid already caused too much damage.|pg||
mb|5C|nt|vlad9: missed ...     I  would  loose a bet if there was betting on this|pg||
nt|ndemirev: i would have too |pg||
nt|eamongall: there is betting on this ... Betfair.com|pg||
nt|starkist: would could have some friendly wagers ;)|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: http://www.usbf.org/|pg||
nt|lc: I suppose 3@S was a |pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: well done|pg||
nt|lc: mark-time bid to find out more.|pg||
nt|lc: Looby has not exactly described a 7=3=1=2 8-count with his auction.|pg||
nt|lc: Sontag should be warming up his RED CARD about now.|pg||
nt|sybarra: that is what I can make work |pg||
nt|sybarra: sorrry |pg||
nt|sybarra: privie|pg||
nt|lc: I doubt, though that Sontag would double 5@H -- too risky to give away contract if dummy has, say, Honor-nine-low in hearts.|pg||
mb|5H|nt|jaapfr: 4@D ace Question?|pg||
nt|moen: well no slam at all :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: E to bid 4@H|pg||
nt|baldjean: not sure; perhaps 4@d was exclusion|pg||
nt|moen: looks like splinter too mee|pg||
nt|jaapfr: splinter the specs tell me|pg||
nt|lc: This slow 5@H normally could cause a problem.  Not sure why it was so slow, though.|pg||
mb|6C|nt|baldjean: but looks like splinter to me too|pg||
mb|p|mb|6H|nt|jaapfr: but then sure 4@H by E|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: Just on club and one heart loser with everything working for declarer.|pg||
nt|swanson: one|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|nt|lc: Enough is enough, says Sonty.|pg||
mb|6S|nt|mariner1: well done|pg||
nt|swanson: How depressing for the Tritt team.  Time to run to 6NT.|pg||
nt|lc: I knew Looby should rebid those @S.  Just didn't realize it would be at the 6 level!|pg||
mb|p|nt|h_karluk: good job - clean cut|pg||
nt|vlad9: trump was strange play  could go off in 3sp  agains  4-0  sp|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: Morse thinking|pg||
nt|swanson: He will eventually lead the @CJ - to no avail.|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: Funny looking @CJ.|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: 800 if @H lead.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|lc: Only issue is will Sontag work out to overtake the first round of @D to give the second @H ruff.|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|mariner1: well disguised :)|pg||
pc|hT|nt|glenne: i'am here|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s6|nt|baldjean: 4@s is definitely too tame after 4@d|pg||
nt|moen: maybe he didnt like his void in partners opening suit and 4@h showes real control A or K|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|jaapfr: noone agrees with 4@H bid?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: ok|pg||
nt|lc: S.P. @H10 for @D play.|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg||
nt|lc: He didn't work it out -- so only 500.|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sQ|nt|lc: Sontag was trying for 1100 in case declarer had 2 @D.|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|lc: Nice problem to have :)    I wish it was these that I got wrong.|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c52|st||md|2ST86HJDQJ975CQ963,SQHKQ742DK643CAKJ,S92HAT85DAT2CT742,SAKJ7543H963D8C85|sv|b|nt|rialc2: se riescono ad entrare, dopo la sottoapertura, 4@S le fanno|pg||
nt|k 51 bis: buongiorno a tutti|pg||
nt|copeyj: another cracking hand|pg||
nt|royhughes: 6@s was almost cold, but not easy to bid with certainty|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|rialc2: ciao|pg||
nt|figb_rama: ciao|pg||
nt|minnie lee: ciao|pg||
nt|ritong: ça alors|pg||
mb|1S!|nt|caruga: ciao|pg||
nt|ritong: passer ce jeu tombe bien, ça n enterrera pas 4@s|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: malgré le passe d'entrée et l'ouverture minimum on fait 4@s ... reste à les déclarer|pg||
mb|2N|nt|brolucius: You should introduce a minor only when you have sufficient extra strength to think that five of the minor might be the right contract (instead of 3NT). On North's actual hand he ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: did hold such extra strength. Mind you, he must have expected South to go back to spades on most hands with three or more spades.|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 7@S is fair contract now, is it not?|pg||
mb|4S|nt|rialc2: non è semplice battere questo 4@H, visto che attacca Est|pg||
nt|chmitty: c'est simple ce jeu|pg||
mb|p|nt|copeyj: 1NT showed 5+ spades|pg||
nt|ritong: santos a trouvé une voie:-)|pg||
mb|p|nt|norby: attacca ovesttttttttt|pg||
nt|copeyj: very reasonable Roland|pg||
nt|copeyj: perhaps one might even say good|pg||
nt|copeyj: :)|pg||
nt|royhughes: Fair grand, but hard to make if clubs are Jxxx|pg||
nt|ritong: il n en demeure pas moins que si la main se situe dans la zone du chelem, nord aura du mal a imaginer tout ça chez un passeur d entrée|pg||
nt|juan lukas: ils n'ont pas l'air de jouer l'enchere de 4@s apres X comme barrage :)|pg||
nt|chmitty: le jeu prudent est d'ouvrir la coupe à @h sans toucher aux atouts|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: ah meglio|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|k 51 bis: attacca sud mi sa|pg||
nt|figb_rama: nord...|pg||
nt|k 51 bis: si nord, se si gioca 5@D|pg||
nt|rialc2: ha troppo non dovrebbe ...|pg||
nt|royhughes: unless North has singleton 9|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, you could not enjoy the fourth club trick.|pg||
nt|copeyj: 2@C gazilli esque i thk, 2@D established gf|pg||
mc|10|nt|cumino: Di la sono a %@D dbl per il momento|pg||
nt|cumino: 5|pg||
nt|Walddk2: yes|pg||
nt|copeyj: the Spaniards in the other room reached 6@S|pg||
nt|chmitty: pour éviter que le flanc n'ait l'occasion de jouer trois coups d'atout|pg||
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qx|o53|st||md|3S5HQT83DQ842CA843,SJT8H97542DTCJT75,SQ62HADAKJ97653C9,SAK9743HKJ6DCKQ62|sv|n|nt|sybarra: I would bid 4 @H  |pg||
nt|baldjean: 4@h would have kept the ball rolling|pg||
nt|sybarra: it cant be a suit |pg||
nt|jaapfr: tx Sh:)|pg||
nt|starkist: 3-1 @s might scuttle 4@s|pg||
nt|mariner1: so a push|pg||
nt|mariner1: 3N by S in a competitive auction was an interesting spot,,,,, and no DBL|pg||
nt|glenne: chance for a pickup here for demartino team|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: everybody staring at the board|pg||
mb|1C|an|STR, ART|nt|glenne: hard to imagine auction that ended up- three no for anyone|pg||
nt|lc: Strong @C - -but subject to preemption at these colors.|pg||
mb|p|nt|h_karluk: 9 IMps|pg||
nt|xenya: perhaps he figured out there was little chance to set the contract if S had @Ds?|pg||
mb|1D!|nt|mariner1: needs better REDs to make 5@d....|pg||
nt|xenya: but i'm not sure|pg||
nt|sybarra: and if pard bids 4 @S after that, I hit the deck |pg||
nt|thegarve: easier for North to bid game than south to accept|pg||
nt|thegarve: that opening bid will prevent an ideas of getting to 6@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|vlad9: right but  W might not have a chance to take the lead  to play a trump|pg||
nt|glenne: flannery opening by wolff..one of the few conventions they play|pg||
nt|lc: Par, I suppose is E-W saving against 6@D.|pg||
mb|2D|nt|baldjean: yes; you risk nothing by bidding 4@h|pg||
nt|moen: many players dont cuebid with single or void in partners opening suit|pg||
nt|swanson: Flannery 2@D will keep N-S out of the auction (unless they use a double to show a diamond overcall).|pg||
mb|d|nt|mariner1: E DBL is negative type all suits showing minors here|pg||
nt|sybarra: except pard opened 1 @H |pg||
nt|lc: Looby's Pass --   Common to PASS then bid later with big hand against big @C.|pg||
nt|lc: Direct bidding is preemptive mode.  Delayed bidding shows a good hand as here.|pg||
mb|3S!|an|SPL, !d support|nt|lc: Would be nice if Bates could Splinter now to 3@S.  Then BW by North gets to the cold 6@D.|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: I sure would have DBL here with N to show @d|pg||
mb|5D|nt|sybarra: maybe was afraid it now sounded like preference support (but should not be)|pg||
nt|ndemirev: 2nt should be limit+ in H |pg||
nt|mariner1: maybe they play some other sequence|pg||
nt|glenne: will need to guess spades to make two hearts|pg||
mb|d|nt|vlad9: yes in common use in bulgaria|pg||
mb|p|nt|ndemirev: i guess with the natural 2nt they start with 2@C |pg||
nt|swanson: Yes, one would if that it what it shows, but many use the double to show a minimum notrump overcall.|pg||
nt|lc: Surprising bid by Sontag.  He knows slam is laydown opposite  x   xxxx   xxxx   Axxx.|pg||
nt|harmon: 5d doesnt seem right|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: many only play neg dbl for majors however they can be played showing/implying all unbid suits|pg||
nt|mariner1: if this is final contract will S lead major or minor black suit?|pg||
nt|xenya: spades, i'm sure|pg||
nt|baldjean: I actually like nt bids for cue in trumps. a device I play with my regular partner|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: another comparison the e/w pair here will be amazed at |pg||
nt|thegarve: i commentated on Russia v Bulgaria in the first match and both sides played well|pg||
nt|harmon: par result a stripe tail|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|jaapfr: monaco seems to run away with score|pg||
pc|c9|nt|ndemirev: tough to see a setting play from west's hand |pg||
nt|lc: 950 is not as good as 1370.  |pg||
nt|swanson: 6@S save is appropriate for E-W, but how could East possibly work that out without describing his hand early.|pg||
pc|c6|nt|mariner1: well moot point now.... push is expected|pg||
nt|starkist: in polish?|pg||
nt|vlad9: 2cl =  tfer  for di in their methods, 2sp is invitational+ balanced i think|pg||
nt|glenne: yes|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|xenya: push? can't it be made?|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: cant win this |pg||
nt|mariner1: has 2@d and 1@h losers|pg||
nt|h_karluk: so flat?|pg||
nt|mariner1: yep push|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: any line can win this contract |pg||
nt|xenya: ah -- 2 diamond losers -- i overlooked that tiny 10 :)|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: even if the defense is sleeping|pg||
nt|mariner1: no chance except defense error to make|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: and a big big error|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: i dont see Marc duck y|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: the K @h :0|pg||
nt|xenya: in spite of the result, i'm quite impressed by both rooms reaching this contract|pg||
nt|sybarra: agree, its a great system as long as both pards on same wave length...  |pg||
pc|d2|nt|glenne: should get spades right now|pg||
nt|swanson: Spades will be guessed with the club distribution known.|pg||
nt|mariner1: the @c situation may give W the info to get @s right|pg||
nt|mariner1: well we all agree :)|pg||
nt|swanson: Morse could make all three of us look bad now by going the other way in spades.|pg||
nt|glenne: that wouldn't upset me too much...lol|pg||
pc|dT|nt|mariner1: a slam dunk for the commentator's curse :)|pg||
pc|dA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|jaapfr: down 1 with good defense|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s5|nt|ndemirev: there is a problem when you want to side the nt from S |pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|moen: yes cant make now|pg||
nt|lc: Hard for either pair to know if they should be happy with this result.  Could be swing either direction.|pg||
mc|12|nt|mariner1: well S removes the problem|pg||
nt|lc: This is a lead-out-of-turn auction, by the way.|pg||
nt|lc: The computer realizes that Bates was declarer.|pg||
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qx|c53|st||md|3S5HQT83DQ842CA843,SJT8H97542DTCJT75,SQ62HADAKJ97653C9,SAK9743HKJ6DCKQ62|sv|n|nt|royhughes: Well done.  The squeeze would have required pitching the right card from dummy, I think|pg||
mb|1D|nt|chmitty: 1SA faible|pg||
mb|1S|nt|vugraphec3: tutto risolto|pg||
nt|vugraphec3: ...pare|pg||
nt|ritong: encore une donne paisible, mais le <SA faible pourrait frapper|pg||
mb|d|nt|royhughes: But I think it was relatively safe -- hearts 6-2 unlikely after heart king lead|pg||
nt|ritong: non:)|pg||
mb|2S!|mb|3D!|nt|cumino: Alfredo si arrabbierà, gli aveva fatto un chiamo come una casa|pg||
mb|4D|nt|rialc2: Com'è finita?|pg||
nt|cumino: 1 down|pg||
nt|ritong: et l entame @d accelere l affaire|pg||
mb|5D|nt|vugraphec3: yes|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: de la main d'est il faut un miracle pour battre|pg||
nt|chmitty: alors plutôt miracle à @c ou à @d ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: pericolo...|pg||
nt|ritong: a @d|pg||
mb|5S|mb|d|nt|cumino: Non è una gran mano da 1@C secondo me|pg||
nt|chmitty: suis d'accord ... RVx chez partenaire par exemple|pg||
nt|ritong: le part a ARx et on arrive a bricoler une p romo d atout|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: 6, in realtà, è su 1 impasse su 2 (più o meno)|pg||
nt|chmitty: aussi|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|norby: 5 quadri e' al 85per cnto|pg||
nt|vugraphec3: gips direbbe "ne ho giocati di peggio"|pg||
nt|ritong: on a bien dit " miracle":)|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o54|st||md|4S86H6543DK7654C76,SA532HA7DAJTCAJ94,SJ9HKQJT9D32CQT85,SKQT74H82DQ98CK32|sv|e|nt|mariner1: nice slam here makes 7 too|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: 13 top tricks.  I think Wolff-Morse will bid this grand.|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: interesting part score battle here|pg||
nt|lc: Normal 4@S for E-W here.|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|mariner1: I agree it is biddable,,, I like the start here better|pg||
nt|swanson: Maybe Sontag's 5@D bid was tactical, simply wanting to buy the contract.|pg||
nt|lc: In "Standard" the 1@S bid promises 5+ @S  (X with 4).|pg||
mb|3H|nt|vlad9: right  but u have other advanteges - u can introduce suits freely without creating a forcing sequence|pg||
nt|swanson: East needs to use Blackwood and its all there.|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ndemirev: it looks like EW are playing weak NT and W was preparing for a a transfer |pg||
nt|vlad9: or when forcing to introduce minor suits cheply|pg||
nt|mariner1: 2@s just to show extras|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphec1: i like 2 nt here|pg||
mb|4S|nt|thegarve: e/w are playing carotti @c 1@c = 16+ or 11-13 bal|pg||
nt|starkist: tempting to move, too square|pg||
nt|starkist: k@c is not great either|pg||
nt|ndemirev: so the 1D must be some sort of negative |pg||
nt|vlad9: what about  3nt?|pg||
nt|thegarve: yes|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: yes if you call 2N is the spot|pg||
nt|jaapfr: who dares to pass the X:)?|pg||
nt|thegarve: thsi should go all out and is likely to go squezze home|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: DD yes|pg||
nt|sybarra: not me |pg||
nt|moen: not me |pg||
nt|jaapfr: not me|pg||
nt|sybarra: too scary at the 2 level even with 5 @H,  I have NO defense |pg||
nt|starkist: wow, heading there|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: I wonder if there is any convusion over what trumps are for this ask?|pg||
nt|lc: Gunshy after the last one.|pg||
nt|lc: I've seen worse slams.  I suppose a few tables (out of the 8) might reach 6@S.|pg||
pc|d4|nt|swanson: confusion|pg||
nt|harmon: lucky make too|pg||
nt|lc: Maybe a double-dummy make (throw-in in @H) -- but not likely to make single dummy -- |pg||
nt|chip: NS made it harder for EW, but they guessed well. As little as Axxx x Axx AQJxx would make 6S laydown.|pg||
nt|swanson: E-W can make 6@S by stripping the pointed suits and tossing North in with a Heart.  Don't see that as the marked play however.|pg||
nt|lc: I would take a @C finesse in 6@S and go down.|pg||
pc|dA|nt|xenya: in CR, S bid 3@C over W's 2@S -- looks very dubious to me|pg||
nt|jaapfr: only if pd tells me i have AKAA lol|pg||
nt|moen: and worse is you have a @s fit|pg||
nt|sybarra: that too Fred  |pg||
nt|sybarra: and maybe we push them up a level or so |pg||
nt|starkist: very nice|pg||
pc|d2|nt|vlad9: betfair   I am coming|pg||
nt|thegarve: pushy but has fair chances, they did well|pg||
nt|ndemirev: there is a good chance now |pg||
nt|starkist: hard to find @d lead|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|xenya: E's 2@S of course|pg||
nt|h_karluk: 3 aces and crucial tenaces unfavorably placed|pg||
nt|mariner1: yes 3@c was sticking his neck out|pg||
nt|mariner1: very nice|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s9|nt|sybarra: yikes |pg||
nt|thegarve: Betfair was started and cinceived by an English Bridge playera a friend of mine|pg||
nt|swanson: Wolff assumed diamond trumps (or none), or maybe they don't use RKC at all.|pg||
pc|sK|nt|jaapfr: lovely lead:)|pg||
nt|starkist: @c up @s back|pg||
nt|thegarve: needed a @d lead|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: playing straight Blackwood |pg||
nt|swanson: Blackwood is an excellent convention, even if it is occasionaly used when it shouldn't be.|pg||
nt|glenne: yes, straight blackwood|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: waiting for the lead|pg||
nt|swanson: Can't you claim for them?|pg||
nt|mariner1: lead will take longer than the play|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|xenya: so if you have to bid with S's hand, 2N would be my choice too|pg||
nt|mariner1: s running out of plays here|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s8|nt|mariner1: declarer putting himself in Zugzwang position|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes hard to win this contract now|pg||
nt|ritong: tell him east has 7 @s at start and he would play quite differently i think|pg||
nt|mariner1: Zugzwang is a German Chess term describing where you could win but as soon as you move you lose.........|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes|pg||
nt|xenya: but what should E return now?|pg||
nt|ritong: hi guys|pg||
nt|jaapfr: come on be a man and play @SQ as well:)|pg||
pc|s3|nt|starkist: this works too|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|chip: on the actual D lead 6S is pretty good, but would go down with the bad club lie.|pg||
nt|lc: Safe play by Looby since IMPs -- he didn't want to go down if @D lead was singleton and everything else went wrong.|pg||
pc|cK|nt|xenya: hello Henri|pg||
nt|h_karluk: is a term originally used in chess which also applies to various other games. The concept finds its formal definition in combinatorial game theory. It describes a situation where ...|pg||
nt|h_karluk: one player is put at a disadvantage because he has to make a move – the player would like to pass and make no move.|pg||
nt|mariner1: hi Henri, bring the champagne?|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: salut H :)|pg||
nt|ritong: a tad early, maybe:)|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: now Quantin know the position i think , |pg||
pc|c6|nt|moen: :)|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ndemirev: the problem is that they cannot cash @S without squeezing declarer |pg||
nt|thegarve: 4@s a smith peter discouraging in @h|pg||
nt|thegarve: so should find a @d|pg||
nt|starkist: drum roll|pg||
nt|ndemirev: the question is which D to lead |pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|starkist:    <rimshot>|pg||
nt|vlad9: no question - has to remain on lead|pg||
nt|starkist: great hand|pg||
nt|thegarve: a @c uo was necessary to inhibit a smith peter|pg||
nt|starkist: I did suggest that line :)|pg||
nt|starkist: the club situation was a blueprint|pg||
nt|chip: also hopes to set up a club trick to throw a heart and make 5.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c9|nt|thegarve: a singleton with North so the pip cannot be interpreted|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|lc: On @D lead, I suppose there would be some merit to strip then @HA and a heart.|pg||
nt|lc: In 6, that is.|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|nt|mariner1: could not resist a 2nd @c hook,,,,, and he is kabobed|pg||
nt|sybarra: btw,  what beach are you on now Jaap?|pg||
nt|baldjean: he can drop a loser on @h now|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|pg||
nt|starkist: or void|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|mc|10|nt|starkist: then could signal|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: I am going to check on Board 50 now|pg||
nt|lc: Bd 50 does look wrong, yes (3N down?)|pg||
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qx|c54|st||md|4S86H6543DK7654C76,SA532HA7DAJTCAJ94,SJ9HKQJT9D32CQT85,SKQT74H82DQ98CK32|sv|e|nt|rialc2: @H 3-3|pg||
nt|fulldire: cio accontentiamo di 2|pg||
mb|p|nt|fulldire: imps|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|rialc2: un bel 2@S con la 7ma.., meglio così|pg||
nt|cumino: di la 2@s tutti passano. Qui 2SA a compagno già passato. Mah|pg||
nt|royhughes: Bocci prefers double to overcalling on a moderate suit|pg||
mb|1S|nt|fulldire: una volta ci si apriva sempre senza stupirsi con la settima bucata in zona contro prima... |pg||
nt|copeyj: who can blame him|pg||
mb|3H|nt|brolucius: Some would overcall 2@H instead of doubling.|pg||
mb|4S|nt|cumino: E l'altro passo. A ri mah|pg||
nt|pitiful: only those who like -1100|pg||
nt|chmitty: 2@s : j'ai 3@s et un arrêt à @h sans doute (sinon xx pour transférer l'entame en Nord)|pg||
mb|p|nt|me argent: le compte mencourage de dire 3@Cs avec fit partial a @H|pg||
mb|p|nt|me argent: VOILA|pg||
mb|p|nt|pitiful: some might pass though|pg||
nt|royhughes: Did Bocci bid 2@d?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Has David Burn changed his ID to 'pitiful'? |pg||
nt|vugraphecc: 2c alerted|pg||
nt|pitiful: he is too good a player for that|pg||
nt|royhughes: So EW showed artificial methods here|pg||
nt|ritong: salut joseph  le fait que les adversaires ont un fit certain encourage aussi a se bagarrer|pg||
pc|h5|nt|vugraphecc: yes|pg||
nt|royhughes: 2@c must have been some kind of semi-positive|pg||
nt|chmitty: 2@s chutait sans doute donc c'est mieux comme ça|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o55|st||md|1SQTHT853DJ97CT743,SAKJ54HQ9DQTC9852,S972HAKJ6DAK642CQ,S863H742D853CAKJ6|sv|b|nt|mariner1: so an interesting push|pg||
nt|ritong: a pretty 4@s here|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes|pg||
nt|h_karluk: a good bridge player should always carry subway tickets with him.|pg||
nt|baldjean: don't understand why he went that way. did he actually hope to set up a trick in @d?|pg||
nt|mariner1: unfortunate 4@s here with a @h lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: yes nice 4@s|pg||
nt|sybarra: strange also,  had a imp in his pocket and he lost it |pg||
nt|moen: i guess a miss fromoprator|pg||
nt|sybarra: michaels bid now?|pg||
nt|eamongall: I believe Team Ireland are limited to 1 pint a night or can stockpile up to maximum of 3 pints for a night before sitout |pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|xenya: nice result for the French in CR|pg||
nt|ritong: hmm|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: but now hard to call for EW|pg||
nt|ritong: bad start for EW|pg||
nt|moen: from operator|pg||
nt|eamongall: so sitting out in morning so maybe 3 pints tonight |pg||
nt|vlad9: so  5 or 7 imps depending on N discard|pg||
nt|swanson: Will South come it - I think so.|pg||
mb|p|nt|thegarve: excelent result for n/s ireland|pg||
mb|1D!|nt|mariner1: yes the @h are odds on to be in E and S|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|sybarra: suggested by spec "maybe he thought of 6-card overcall and Kx@d"|pg||
nt|sybarra: it has to be East thinking |pg||
mb|2C|nt|mariner1: wow W is very conservative here|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: good opening of 1nt by JC Q|pg||
nt|h_karluk: either 12-14 or S committed he has qt|pg||
nt|jaapfr: where is this going to end??|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: north/east are screenmates|pg||
nt|sybarra: Houston we have landed,  is my guess |pg||
nt|mariner1: well this stops the @H lead :)|pg||
nt|lc: So, MELTZER is happy to see 50 fixed.  But I think 51 is a done deal and bad MELTZER news.|pg||
nt|chip: spectator points out (in part) that probably should make 6S on a diamond lead. After you draw trumps and strip diamonds S seems to be 2-4-5-2 so no cost to play ace and a heart.|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ritong: south has a powerfuk hand, a strong NT indeed|pg||
mb|p|nt|vlad9: lucky make in the other room with clubs blocked|pg||
nt|ndemirev: in the open room S valued his hand as full opener and it worked|pg||
nt|swanson: North should sit I think, but this is a difficult situation for every partnership.  What to do with these hands (North and SOuth both).|pg||
nt|mariner1: so EW will get some more here|pg||
nt|swanson: Over 4@S.|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: great houston|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: powerful*, sorry!|pg||
nt|h_karluk: by jove! |pg||
nt|mariner1: agreed S does have an interesting 1N and that bid protects his Kx too|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes and 2 K for receved the lead|pg||
nt|mariner1: E should fire back a small @h|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: he could pass on the transfert :) lol |pg||
nt|xenya: i think it's hard to blame W for being passive here -- credit goes to Quantin for opening 1N|pg||
nt|sybarra: wow!|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Yes, however they have good news coming on Brds 52 + 53|pg||
nt|lc: 2@C would tend to be natural -- not a cue-bid.  1NT is played as a cue-bid raise against an artificial big @C.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Sorry - doing 2 things at once sometimes doesn't work|pg||
nt|chip: yes, likely to be close with these last 6 hands.|pg||
nt|lc: Maybe it was fit-showing.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|nt|ndemirev: looks like -2 |pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|jaapfr: funny the good interrupting bidding of NS helped opps with 26 hcp to avoid unmakeble games|pg||
nt|swanson: Onstott did very well to pass 4@S at the other table.|pg||
pc|dK|nt|mariner1: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/08Pau/Information.htm  -  Tournament site with results links|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|xenya: the contract won't be a success, but the score will|pg||
nt|h_karluk: In my book only 17 balanced HCP "strong" -even still questionable if available to produce tricks before defenders cash their own tricks or not.|pg||
nt|swanson: Looby's 2@C bid here opposite a passed partner, was evidently lead directing and not a game try.  But why couldn't it have been natural?|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|nt|mariner1: S just wants to be sure EW do not score their trumps seperately|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s4|pg||
nt|lc: They seem to have been on the same wavelenght -- don't know if they've discussed it.|pg||
nt|chip: NS got stolen from. They can make 4H.|pg||
pc|c8|nt|jaapfr: very good by greece|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|nt|moen: goodresult for greece here|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|harmon: this a great board fro Tritt|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sA|nt|jaapfr: 9 imps recovery|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|xenya: well E complies -- now it looks like 8 tricks after all|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s7|nt|mariner1: oops|pg||
nt|swanson: 4 IMPs is not a serious loss and there was a lot to gain if N-S had a making 5-level contract.|pg||
nt|glenne: down to on another club here i think|pg||
nt|mariner1: yes the @d return should cost a trick|pg||
nt|mariner1: so only 2 imps now|pg||
pc|c6|nt|glenne: no four imps|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|swanson: There was no reason for declarer to have led a club (instead of ruffing a heart in dummy).|pg||
nt|glenne: -100 and -50|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|mariner1: oh right it adds :)|pg||
nt|lc: Board 53 is so crucial.  It is likely a 10-imp (approx.) swing EITHER way.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|8|nt|chip: I think NS are unlikely to bid and be allowed to play 6D.|pg||
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qx|c55|st||md|1SQTHT853DJ97CT743,SAKJ54HQ9DQTC9852,S972HAKJ6DAK642CQ,S863H742D853CAKJ6|sv|b|nt|fulldire: mi sa che non l'ha sbloccato davvero visto il risultato|pg||
nt|minnie lee: purtropo non l'ha sblocato|pg||
nt|rialc2: .. era lo stesso|pg||
nt|cumino: down di la, l'han messo a indovinare. el controgioco|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Running the @SJ was a safety play in the suit.|pg||
mb|1S|nt|royhughes: Yes, I think he could have managed if they were 4-1|pg||
nt|royhughes: 2@d must show majors here|pg||
nt|pitiful: north will probably bid 3@s|pg||
nt|royhughes: or maybe 4|pg||
mb|d|mb|2D!|nt|chmitty: c'est ce qu'on appelle un 2@s "solide"|pg||
mb|p|nt|royhughes: No, pitiful was right|pg||
nt|pitiful: maybe |pg||
nt|brolucius: You can afford to be a bit more adventurous when showing a major two-suiter, rather than 2NT to show a minor two-suiter, because you will have to play only at the two-level.|pg||
nt|yvesj49: ça gagne d'ailleurs lol|pg||
mb|2S|nt|brolucius: 3@S is pre-emptive. North could cue-bid in clubs to show a genuine raise in one suit or another. |pg||
mb|d|nt|pitiful: 26 points and no game|pg||
nt|royhughes: It's hard to quit with Duboin's hand|pg||
nt|yvesj49: bizarre de contrer en réveil ..........|pg||
mb|p|nt|me argent: tres|pg||
mb|3H|nt|figb_rama: nel nostro girone la Lettonia è avanti di 26 con Israele, e l'Islanda +17 sull'Olanda|pg||
nt|royhughes: And defending doubled is not safe|pg||
nt|yvesj49: avec un 7222|pg||
mb|p|nt|yvesj49: hey joe|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|pitiful: good pass by west|pg||
nt|pitiful: still going off though|pg||
pc|sK|nt|royhughes: Yes, but 3@s might have made, so EW did ok, I think|pg||
nt|yvesj49: 2 de chute en principe|pg||
nt|yvesj49: 3C 2K 1T|pg||
nt|yvesj49: flanc facile|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o56|st||md|2SAT7632HTDQJ97C96,SQJ4H9532D84CKJ53,S8HKJ874DA652CQ82,SK95HAQ6DKT3CAT74|sv|o|nt|xenya: or 9|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: 9|pg||
nt|mariner1: so we have a 2 imp here|pg||
nt|mariner1: making 3N in Closed was well done here|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: the score is more clear now ....|pg||
nt|h_karluk: breakpoint not came yet. seems we have to wait till board  16.|pg||
nt|lc: We're going to lose all our viewers running over to watch 53 in the CLosed :)|pg||
nt|lc: 52 ain't bad, either.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: this hand seems to be very significant about new tendencies|pg||
nt|jaapfr: we used 80 minutes for half of boards so pretty slow|pg||
mb|1N|nt|mariner1: yes another Muiderberg showing @h and another suit less than opening count...... here 4 pts|pg||
nt|ritong: tell any french expert ten years ago this is a 2@h opening for any reason, he would laugh out loudly|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes this openning are more frequent than 2 weak major , and more efficasse i think|pg||
nt|ritong: but times, they are a changing, u know|pg||
nt|thegarve: now will Bocchi and co be in a good mood after the football, or will the country famous for believing in conspiracy theories be up in arms?|pg||
nt|swanson: E-W can bring in 9 tricks here but they will have to be pushed to game by N-S.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: We don't have a Closed to watch, though - I'm entering the bidding, opening lead and result in an invisible room so you can have comparisons with the bidding, but no-one is there ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: watching the play, sorry!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|baldjean: sorry, I missed that board. "Mummy, can you help us opening this bottle?"|pg||
nt|sybarra: e/w have to be a a little careful here|pg||
nt|sybarra: or a lot careful |pg||
mb|p|nt|h_karluk: This convention is named after the Dutch village Muiderberg, the residence of the designers of this two-level opening (Onno Janssens and Willem Boegem).|pg||
nt|ndemirev: this board will like get pushed in 3nd going down |pg||
nt|ndemirev: *likely |pg||
nt|starkist: frisky 2@d|pg||
nt|lc: Oh.  Well, they would be running over there :)|pg||
nt|chip: the other match is close also (12 with 4 boards to play). In that match on 53 the contracts were 6D and 6SDBL|pg||
nt|lc: Sure, so send them running to that table. :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: The director is running over to get me results, so we'll have it as soon as they play it - hadn't finished 52 when he brought the last batch|pg||
nt|lc: Actually, there were 4 (all 4) close matches enterring this final set.|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: probably best its not beer |pg||
nt|mariner1: same auction both rooms|pg||
nt|chip: If they move they lose out our great commentary -)|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: Muiderberg does have a certain self destructive tendency to it,,,,,, sometimes directed at self|pg||
nt|swanson: Garber wants to double for take out here.  2@H is not such a great contract for E-W however.|pg||
nt|lc: 2@D = !+ Major, I'd guess.|pg||
nt|lc: @D + major?|pg||
pc|cA|nt|xenya: E's somewhat bold 2N saves the day|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: curious to lead @c and not @s|pg||
nt|mariner1: I like the 2N with both majors stopped|pg||
nt|mariner1: yes and this lead should allow it..... a @s woulf have made it difficult to make|pg||
nt|mariner1: would even|pg||
nt|moen: yes 4@h is far from laydown|pg||
nt|vlad9: kovachev likes bidding on 5 cards suits lead directionally when opps are in FG  - I think this is too dangerous but his philosophy deffers|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Sontag asks about carding - upside down|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|nt|sybarra: X,  inspired by last hand?|pg||
nt|baldjean: orange juice :) at 6 years they are a bit too young for beer|pg||
nt|sybarra: yes :)  my point |pg||
nt|mariner1: all roads lead to 3@h making 3 in seems.......|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|jaapfr: but it can be made 4@H esp knowing after the X so my bet is he makes|pg||
nt|moen: im for down 1|pg||
nt|jaapfr: losing 1 @S 1@H 1@D|pg||
nt|jaapfr: you pessimist me optimist|pg||
nt|sybarra: has to guess the @S |pg||
nt|moen: :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: no trouble after 1@D who the A|pg||
nt|lc: I might have shown @S directly with Bates' hand.|pg||
nt|lc: But certainly not over @D + Maj.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Both alerted but no one explained in a way I could get, sorry|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
nt|chip: I'm sure I would.|pg||
pc|hT|nt|h_karluk: normally : pass-pass- 1@s etc wld better|pg||
nt|mariner1: now he has time to set up and get to the @d|pg||
nt|vlad9: what are they heading for now?|pg||
nt|starkist: downtown|pg||
pc|h2|nt|vlad9: Irish  beer there?:)|pg||
nt|starkist: yes and only 50 a trick|pg||
pc|h4|nt|thegarve: fake irish bars every where|pg||
nt|ndemirev: double dummy S lead might get it down 3 |pg||
nt|starkist: hard to stay out of game|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|swanson: THe 2@D balance was a big winner on this hand.  Worth 6 or 7 IMPs compared with 1NT the other way.|pg||
pc|c4|nt|jaapfr: ok specs bets on on down or make???|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|nt|baldjean: down now. 2 rounds of trump first|pg||
nt|mariner1: E should cash and next|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|d8|nt|mariner1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch many vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't, ...|pg||
nt|mariner1: Open one browser window per table|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|nt|baldjean: then the @c can be safely plaed because south will be endplayed when trumping|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|baldjean: played*|pg||
nt|sybarra: much better plan Jeanine|pg||
nt|lc: There are few (if any) experts that would sell to 1NT these days (unless they were using unplayable methods such as "natural.')|pg||
pc|hK|nt|h_karluk: still distance to hold up|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://tinyurl.com/5tung5-  correct for running scores in all matches|pg||
nt|mariner1: has his 9 now |pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: 10 easy|pg||
nt|sybarra: maybe not so easy at the table |pg||
pc|hA|pc|d9|nt|thegarve: 1@S 3@c - invitational would be my call|pg||
nt|lc: North's balance was "routine."|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|baldjean: yes, always easy for us commentators|pg||
nt|jaapfr: if we think about Monaco we think of royal family very small very expensive and only a lot of rich old retired people:) lol|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s8|nt|jaapfr: so a lot of time to play bridge|pg||
nt|moen: i think of the Casino|pg||
nt|baldjean: well, not all of them are old. Boris Becker lives there too|pg||
nt|jaapfr: lives??|pg||
nt|jaapfr: fiscal reasons i suppose|pg||
nt|baldjean: well, let's say it is his official home lol|pg||
nt|thegarve: especially in a limited system|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|nt|starkist: heavy 3c|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s9|pg||
nt|chip: Bidding over 1N is routine, but winner was not showing spades as S.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|nt|lc: Who wants to sit there and watch partner lead into our singleton @S8?|pg||
pc|s3|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h8|nt|starkist: another one for bet.com :)|pg||
pc|sK|pc|dJ|pc|h9|pg||
pc|s6|nt|baldjean: yes, Monaco is a tax oasis|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|thegarve: no really, you need support and a @h stop, if partner has a@c he will move|pg||
nt|ndemirev: spectators ask for commentary in Bulgarian ; i'll check if we could do that |pg||
nt|vlad9: hanlon throwing tricks??|pg||
nt|thegarve: your a@s is also bad news for 3NT|pg||
pc|d6|nt|lc: Yes -- Bates non-2@S bid was the real winner, Chip.|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|sybarra: is low spade right play?|pg||
mc|9|nt|h_karluk: clock runs|pg||
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qx|c56|st||md|2SAT7632HTDQJ97C96,SQJ4H9532D84CKJ53,S8HKJ874DA652CQ82,SK95HAQ6DKT3CAT74|sv|o|nt|royhughes: Taking a save with 26 high is well done|pg||
nt|pitiful: anybody open as south?|pg||
nt|chmitty: on fait 10 levées en face de Axx à @h dans un désert quand même|pg||
nt|juan lukas: mais sa main est elle si forte que cela ? 7222 avec des @c qui bloquent |pg||
mb|p|nt|me argent: il avait le jeu mais pas autant que ca|pg||
mb|p|nt|royhughes: Most do nowadays|pg||
mb|1N|nt|royhughes: I would, with the good spots|pg||
nt|chmitty: je pense que ça se discute :)|pg||
nt|yvesj49: mouais|pg||
mb|2S|nt|brolucius: We must congratulate the players on a very brisk rate of play. 10 boards in one hour.|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: mi sa che di là la chiamano|pg||
nt|royhughes: Yes, it has been snappy|pg||
nt|chmitty: disons qu'il a pris la vision optimiste|pg||
mb|p|nt|yvesj49: comme delarue lol|pg||
mb|p|nt|royhughes: This may be a complicated 4@h coming up|pg||
nt|chmitty: mais ça n'est pas si critiquable|pg||
pc|c3|nt|juan lukas: certes mais si le partenaire a Axx a @h dans un desert il va dire 3@h et ca ne nous avancera guere |pg||
nt|yvesj49: 3T forcing ?|pg||
mc|8|nt|rialc2: cosa dirà adesso Sementa?|pg||
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qx|o57|st||md|3S97HA532DQT874CA6,S65HQJ7DAJ632CKT9,SJ8432HT94D95CQJ2,SAKQTHK86DKC87543|sv|e|nt|mariner1: nice slam here....... tough to bid|pg||
nt|lc: So, this match could be very tight right now -- we'll know soon.|pg||
nt|chip: might also have beaten 2D with a better lead.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Sontag: "so you guessed that I had hearts, Roger? That was a good guess"|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: very|pg||
nt|starkist: and the lie of the cards|pg||
nt|thegarve: if 2@C was GF you cannot stop, if not 3@C would have been enough|pg||
nt|mariner1: needs to do some elimination here to make this|pg||
nt|lc: Sontag has a sarcastic streak in him.|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|sybarra: slam time again... |pg||
nt|baldjean: nice slam here. grand without @c lead|pg||
mb|1N|an|f1|nt|mariner1: only needs one of the majors to behave so its a reasonable prospect|pg||
nt|lc: Some interesting choices, but all roads lead to 3NT for E-W, it would seem.|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: 6@H 6@S 6NT|pg||
mb|2C|nt|vlad9: too much  bulgarians in open |pg||
nt|eamongall: bulgaria owed 7 imps for board 9 ... open room has no score |pg||
nt|vlad9: too much bulgarian bidding   sry|pg||
nt|thegarve: tis hard to avoid 6@s|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|mariner1: of course @s has to do a LOT of BEHAVING :)|pg||
nt|ritong: 3NT = i do not like @hs|pg||
nt|mariner1: balanced 20 opposite 9 balanced is hard to think slam|pg||
nt|ritong: frankly rob, would you like to be in it?|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: if mark have say 3@h , (agree the @h), maybee JCQ will prospect it , but not here  |pg||
nt|mariner1: just like Roland :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 6@H easiest|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 6@S probl -1|pg||
nt|sybarra: 3 @s= shortness,  didnt improve S hand but pushes on |pg||
nt|moen: yes N pitch a @s early |pg||
nt|baldjean: but of course in a grand East would lead the ace|pg||
nt|swanson: The defense has no real chance here because declarer will be able to strip diamonds and spades before clubs are led.|pg||
nt|mariner1: ok win pull trumps,,,,, play and ruff @d and play A and a @s......|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ritong: aha|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Here is a cute story|pg||
nt|ndemirev: We cannot provide mixed language commentary in the same room because the commentators will not be able to undersand each other |pg||
nt|thegarve: not stopping now|pg||
nt|starkist: not that great a hand for weak two in @s, worth a try at best|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Sementa (West) was declarer in 6@S, doubled by South for the lead|pg||
nt|thegarve: was 4H a cue or a response to RKB?|pg||
nt|Walddk10: What did North lead?|pg||
nt|Walddk10: A heart obviously|pg||
nt|ndemirev: ne mojem da predostavim komentar na razlichni ezitsi v edna zala zashtoto komentatorite niama da mogat da se razbirat |pg||
nt|Walddk10: More likely that partner would be void in hearts, right?|pg||
nt|Walddk10: You see what happened next?|pg||
nt|Walddk10: The diamond layout was an open book for declarer|pg||
nt|Walddk10: So he finessed dummy's 7 later|pg||
nt|starkist: yep|pg||
nt|thegarve: nice|pg||
mb|p|nt|thegarve: open book|pg||
nt|lc: H10 lead?  Any takers?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: 6 @H places the contract,  2 with void  |pg||
nt|jaapfr: i like vroustis not to introduce his @S   is wise|pg||
nt|moen: 2 keycards and the queen and void in @s|pg||
pc|hT|nt|lc: Too late.|pg||
nt|lc: Sontag too fast to get any action on my predicition.|pg||
nt|lc: So, declarer will want to work on @C.|pg||
nt|swanson: Do you lead a diamond or spade to dummy to work on clubs?|pg||
nt|lc: He would like to make the % play in @C -- low to the 10, then low to the 9.|pg||
nt|lc: A question of entries to dummy.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Sontag asked Garber if he was going to take time, Garber said yes, so Sontag has left for the bathroom and Looby to smoke. Garber is thinking|pg||
nt|lc: But, as the cards lie, hard to go wrong.|pg||
nt|lc: Jan -- they announced where they were going?  Or you are assuming?|pg||
nt|lc: :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Well, Sontag announced and Looby got his cigarettes out of his jacket pocket :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Sontag is on his way back now|pg||
nt|lc: Even bathroom breaks he does quickly. :)|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|nt|swanson: I am asked about the E-W pair.  Jim Looby has been an outstand player in the Los Angeles area for years.|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|sybarra: ask how many rounds of trumps do I need and claim |pg||
nt|starkist: missed chance to x 5@d ;)|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s2|nt|mariner1: admittedly I would miss this one|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Operator, please look at your screen|pg||
pc|sA|nt|Walddk10: What if you pull 6@SX to 6NT?|pg||
nt|thegarve: could be worried that 5dxx was on the agenda, east is undisclosed|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Do you have enough entries to get diamonds right?|pg||
nt|eamongall: operator got some undoing |pg||
nt|starkist: I know|pg||
nt|Walddk10: what a shame|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Operator, please undo|pg||
nt|swanson: His bidding is a bit unusual as you have seen.|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|sybarra: well maybe best not |pg||
nt|Walddk10: pass after 5@H|pg||
nt|vlad9: kovachev is making a laitner  double to ruff  but isporski has to guess which suit K is ruffing|pg||
pc|c3|nt|Walddk10: Undo 4 times please|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Now 5|pg||
nt|starkist: and won't guess it is @d with that hand|pg||
pc|c6|nt|eamongall: The Walds are growing like rabbits ...used to be 6 Walddks now there is 10 of them |pg||
nt|Walddk10: No, 14|pg||
pc|cT|nt|starkist: 6n wow nice|pg||
nt|thegarve: 6@S played by East in the other room hence no double, good methods made the strong hand the declarer|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|thegarve: very well done, he evaluated the 4@H cue as k@h|pg||
nt|eamongall: 14 .. my mother had 13 galligans |pg||
pc|h9|nt|sybarra: and an imp to Monaco |pg||
pc|hK|nt|swanson: Keith Garber moved to Las Vegas from NY a couple years ago.  He is also an established expert.|pg||
nt|lc: This @H decelopment gives declarer a sure @H entry to dummy. How nice.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|starkist: later on the footies is italy vs. walds|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Double of 6NT is an insult|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Hanlon has the entries he needs for 4 diamond tricks|pg||
nt|vlad9: unfortunately  here too  the di  position will be open book for declarer  after the double of 6 sp  and the he lead|pg||
nt|thegarve: they deserve to make this slam|pg||
nt|lc: Either the king holds now, or if South wins the ACE, the Jack is unblocked.|pg||
nt|lc: So, now the @H8 is a convenient entry.|pg||
nt|swanson: I don't know if the partnership has any experience together, but they are both oustanding players.|pg||
pc|h2|nt|Walddk10: Now he has another entry|pg||
nt|Walddk10: He will surely get this right|pg||
nt|vlad9: even easier now|pg||
nt|starkist: another great story hand|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h4|nt|h_karluk: next board pls|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|starkist: remember when we used to watch tv?|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Yes, I did last night|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Did the dump TV in Canada?|pg||
nt|Walddk10: *they|pg||
nt|starkist: room for all 14 of you on the couch?|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d6|pc|s3|nt|swanson: Keith is not related to ROn Garber in any way (having had the pleasure of playing with both as partners).|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Bates is leaning back thinking. Garber shows his hand "I'm pretty sure that whatever you play I have the rest" Sontag agrees|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o58|st||md|4SQJ852H83DAT75CQJ,SAK974HJ72DQ4CT72,ST6HKQ95DKJ63C963,S3HAT64D982CAK854|sv|b|nt|h_karluk: aha-a real gem|pg||
nt|mariner1: 3N was a sort of lucky make here......|pg||
nt|xenya: indeed|pg||
nt|mariner1: how did they make 6?|pg||
nt|mariner1: oh @h lead|pg||
nt|h_karluk: classic 4@s/5@d|pg||
nt|ritong: movie says levy led the @c jack|pg||
nt|mariner1: told W led J@c however E did not play K|pg||
nt|ritong: which is a kind of BINGO|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: i cant load it before the player take their hand:)|pg||
nt|ritong: but..|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: :0|pg||
nt|mariner1: yes Q10 opposite 1 usually does not take many tricks|pg||
nt|xenya: the whole auction in CR looks a bit strange|pg||
nt|ritong: bypassing @ss is surprising, yes|pg||
nt|h_karluk: normal procedure : pass pass - 1@d (ready to 2@s reverse)|pg||
nt|h_karluk: if W dares to intervene double-if not 1sp then 3@s etc|pg||
nt|ritong: however, wanting to protect the @h tenace looks ok|pg||
nt|starkist: NYT column position bumped|pg||
nt|vlad9: there wil be a lot of discussion about this board in both teams tonight|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Tom must be kicking himself|pg||
nt|ndemirev: quite a few imps exchanged hands in the last deal |pg||
nt|thegarve: back to the sedate 3nt|pg||
nt|Walddk10: I don't think so, Vladimir|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Hugh McGann is a dream partner. He won't say a word|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Right Eamon?|pg||
nt|starkist: I had a dream partner once|pg||
nt|eamongall: He will speak lots when he is in private or with friends |pg||
nt|starkist: then I woke up|pg||
nt|lc: I think Garber had a 100% claim on any lie.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: So did Sonty :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: And Garber|pg||
mb|1C|nt|swanson: I am told that Keith and Jim have partnered quite a bit this year.|pg||
mb|1S|nt|lc: Well, we need the delay to try to get Closed Room scores.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|lc: Could be 1@S doubled.|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: simple 3N now with N bidding... no doubt where everything is|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Does everyone overcall 1@s here?|pg||
nt|lc: Borderline for me.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: easy 3 nt here |pg||
nt|lc: Probably, yes, though.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Perhaps, reflexively, without too much thought.|pg||
pc|c2|nt|h_karluk: Where are you hiding Cliff? Y-day he told me in all sys over intervene 1-2 level suits shld have 5+ :)|pg||
nt|ritong: "cliff"?|pg||
nt|h_karluk: a fellow mate|pg||
nt|ritong: oh, sorry:)|pg||
nt|h_karluk: it's Ok:)|pg||
nt|lc: So, this looks touch and go in 1@S doubled.|pg||
nt|swanson: Borderline for me - the club holding is not good after the opening bid by RHO.|pg||
nt|lc: And, don't bother with the double-dummy stuff.  They are playing single-dummy.|pg||
nt|me argent: really depends how understanding partner is if i overcall 1@S or not|pg||
pc|c3|nt|xenya: yes, and S also hoped N had a few clubs for his take-out double|pg||
nt|sybarra: or is it easy?|pg||
nt|moen: yes cant go wrong|pg||
nt|moen: if miss the@c ,@h will give 4 tricks and @s finesse works|pg||
nt|jaapfr: as long as he finds the clubs|pg||
nt|jaapfr: no problems|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cK|nt|h_karluk: sound auction|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|nt|mariner1: well not so simple 3N as it turns out :)|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|mariner1: will he hook in @s now?|pg||
nt|mariner1: threat of a @d ruff|pg||
nt|h_karluk: I like natural classics:)|pg||
nt|xenya: sneaky lead|pg||
nt|h_karluk: declarer normally tackle trumps first..rest easy|pg||
nt|xenya: if declarer gives up on the trump finesse, he is down?|pg||
pc|s3|nt|mariner1: he may play A@s and one here|pg||
nt|ritong: bompis surely has some difficulty to picture the hand out|pg||
nt|mariner1: no goes for hook|pg||
nt|xenya: 10!|pg||
nt|h_karluk: cut the nails firstly principle - at least in my book|pg||
nt|jaapfr: your extra line is fine fred|pg||
nt|swanson: @DQ lead but declarer will be able to take 2 diamonds, a ruff and maybe 3 clubs.|pg||
pc|s2|nt|lc: I'm told that Wolff-Morse beat 1@S X 2 tricks. Prob dec misguessed @DQ.|pg||
pc|s7|nt|mariner1: should get a @h too|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|mariner1: oops looked wrong, no @h |pg||
nt|swanson: I would expect declarer to misguess it here also.|pg||
nt|lc: Sure, it rates to be with East from HCP and distribution point of view.|pg||
nt|schutze: Wolff played S AK, then tapped w/ clubs|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|nt|jaapfr: unexpected @CK|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|lc: Jan, is Sontag getting antsy?  He has no patience for a slow sweaty deal when he is dummy.|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer can come to 3 spades, 1 heart and 2 diamonds without have to guess diamonds.|pg||
nt|chip: seems declarer can take 3 spades, 2 diamonds and a heart.|pg||
nt|chip: great minds think alike|pg||
nt|lc: Sure, but might try to make it by (mis)guessing @DQ and go down the extra.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: No, he's sort of relaxed, leaning back, not "twitching" at all|pg||
nt|chip: Not clear you make even if you guess the diamonds. likely to lose 4 spades, 2 clubs, heart.|pg||
nt|swanson: If declarer is trying to win 6 tricks, he should lead another heart now.|pg||
nt|harmon: if he leads low ht now and looby plays ace he can make it|pg||
nt|lc: For those just joining -- we are hoping to get Closed Room results.  Right Jan?|pg||
nt|lc: Ask and I receive!  As predicted, the match is now very close!  112-110 |pg||
nt|gosia: Onstott winner|pg||
nt|lc: So, on the crucial Bd 53, it seems the TRITT N-S pair had a horrible result in the Closed.|pg||
nt|swanson: If declarer does lead a low heart I expect Looby to duck.  The bidding and defense indicate that partner does not hold four spade winners at this point.|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
nt|swanson: I don't understand that diamond duck.|pg||
nt|mariner1: me either and now no @c ruff|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: that's what happened|pg||
nt|swanson: Now declarer gets only four tricks.  That would be OK defending 3NT but not so good playing 2@D doubled.|pg||
nt|mariner1: we believe it, just don't understand it|pg||
nt|swanson: 5 tricks|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|jaapfr: you could not resist Shirley:)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|s5|pg||
pc|dA|nt|sybarra: telling pitch coming |pg||
pc|s4|nt|sybarra: "overkilled"  as we say |pg||
nt|lc: I feel Bates' pain.  It hurts so much when West produces that @DQ.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d8|pg||
nt|harmon: 55 was expected small swing to tritt|pg||
nt|chip: we are still missing the good Meltzer result on 56 when NS made 2D, so the match may be a about tied.|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|nt|vdoubleu: Push board|pg||
nt|lc: Yes, 56 might put MELTZER back ahead small, and now this -500 back behind.|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h8|pg||
pc|c5|pc|dT|mc|5|nt|chip: no 56 was a push.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Nice of Roger to take just long enough to plan the play to let me get all the results I have from the CR entered. |pg||
nt|chip: 2S made on 56 when it could have been beaten (perhaps 2).|pg||
pg||
qx|o59|st||md|1SKT93HAKT432D3CT5,S42H75DAJ8654CA86,SJ876HJ8DK972CKQ2,SAQ5HQ96DQTCJ9743|sv|o|nt|vugraphec1: technical pb sry|pg||
nt|ritong: happens|pg||
nt|vlad9: this is a good approach not to say a word -  bulgarians are more hotblooded   they ll discuss for sure|pg||
nt|Walddk10: In fact, you will often hear McGann say, before he puts dummy down: "Sorry, if I bid too much, partner"|pg||
nt|vlad9: thats because he bids too match:)|pg||
nt|vlad9: much|pg||
nt|eamongall: meaning .. you better make this pard or I will be complaining about your underplaying |pg||
nt|eamongall: Bulgaria still have 7 imps here on board 9 |pg||
nt|ndemirev: some technical problems perhaps?|pg||
nt|starkist: I shorten my dummy putting to simply "sorry"|pg||
nt|vlad9: fortunately we skipped a dull board   - 13 |pg||
nt|ndemirev: this one is likely to duplicate the bidding from the open room |pg||
nt|vlad9: maybe they havent finished playing previous board yet|pg||
nt|thegarve: movie says i|pg||
nt|thegarve: its a flat board|pg||
nt|thegarve: maybe mcgann has gone for a headbutting the wall break|pg||
nt|swanson: I hope the cards were played in a slightly different sequence that what has been shown.|pg||
mb|1H|nt|starkist: operator... any color commentary?|pg||
nt|thegarve: he just lost his line of  thought |pg||
nt|vlad9: Irish heads are tough I ve heard  so maybe he is not allowed to do so in Pau|pg||
nt|mariner1: looks like a straight forward major game here|pg||
mb|2D|nt|jaapfr: we were talking about 9 tricks but W found 12 lol|pg||
nt|mariner1: 2@d showing 5 @h and 4@s and 11-15 except 6@h here|pg||
nt|lc: Oh.  My screen read only "Push Board."|pg||
mb|d|nt|jaapfr: with some help|pg||
nt|sybarra: certainly got a little help from his friends (aka opps) |pg||
nt|sybarra: well,  how do we feel about the 1 nt? |pg||
nt|sybarra: I never get away with this |pg||
nt|jaapfr: still admirable that such a small country can produce such good bridge players|pg||
nt|moen: i dont like it with 4-4 in the majors|pg||
nt|sybarra: and they probably do not even need sponsors |pg||
nt|sybarra: I dont either Fred |pg||
mb|r!|nt|mariner1: henri did it :)|pg||
nt|chip: if you put your cursor on the line of the board in the movie you get the closed room result.|pg||
mb|2S|nt|vugraphecb: sorry i am not hier for bids and play|pg||
nt|starkist: this bidding is wrong operator|pg||
nt|vlad9: nice bidding but not true|pg||
nt|vlad9: seems like action was the same as pointed out by nikolay|pg||
nt|thegarve: my spies tell me as I lose my connection that Eamon claims that I am spilling my guinness and ordering another|pg||
nt|swanson: 4@H is the better contract because of the @H10 and diamonds provide a parking place for possible losing spades.|pg||
nt|mariner1: 2N asks for further description|pg||
mb|p|nt|baldjean: especially not on a 4441 hand|pg||
nt|schutze: this is a thin but makeable 4S|pg||
mb|p|nt|h_karluk: in other words solve trumps- you may decide to let an enemy master at large or not, this gives a breathe to care side suit.|pg||
nt|ritong: "no thanks" says bompis|pg||
nt|moen: but i think they will play 3@d|pg||
nt|me argent: overboard in @Ss but should make|pg||
nt|swanson: Redouble may show a high diamond honor.  But the East hand looks like a simple 2NT call to me.|pg||
nt|lc: So, Looby's XX is either :   "VALUES"  or maybe "Rosenkranz -- showing a top @D honor"|pg||
mb|p|nt|me argent: pass? |pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: He did write something, but unfortunately I couldn't read it|pg||
nt|lc: Wow.  Selling out to opp's known 8-card 2@S seems strange.|pg||
pc|dA|nt|jaapfr: i am told that they are Corsican players (true??)|pg||
nt|mariner1: 3N is an interesting call here?|pg||
nt|me argent: was sure sonty would bid |pg||
nt|schutze: Sonty's getting conservative|pg||
nt|lc: Sonty's pass seems fine.  It is Looby's pass that surprises me.|pg||
nt|lc: South has limited opening -- Sonty has a lot of junk.|pg||
pc|d2|nt|Vugraphu2: lots of explanation, but I couldn't hear|pg||
nt|mariner1: 3N showing 6@h I guess since E went to 4|pg||
nt|swanson: Surely artificial, showing 4-6 (judging from both Wolff's hand and Morse's final bid).|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d3|pg||
nt|h_karluk: 2 more boards to "breakpoint" - no match easy there.|pg||
nt|mariner1: has 2 way @h play|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: sry for the interrupt previous board but had a computer pb|pg||
nt|h_karluk: fine|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: hope it is good now :)|pg||
nt|mariner1: doing super Dan :)|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: the score is clear anyway|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Sontag says that Looby told him the RDBL was takeout|pg||
nt|lc: Anyway, on this nice lie, it is good junk.|pg||
nt|swanson: Can E-W defeat 4@S?  everything is in the slot for N-S.|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|nt|sybarra: this is "bold" |pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: not sure Morse likes dummy|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|vugraphec1: ty :)|pg||
nt|ritong: well the " normal" handling with this @h suit is K followed with 10|pg||
nt|ritong: but here, there are ruffing threats|pg||
nt|mariner1: and he may want to play AK ending dummy|pg||
nt|ritong: K followed with 10 because you can tackle Q9xx with east, but not with west|pg||
nt|mariner1: I suspect he will double hook @d|pg||
nt|xenya: if he misguesses @HQ now, he will go down...|pg||
nt|ritong: no way|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: Marc is thinking|pg||
nt|mariner1: he will either play as Henri said or play AK both work|pg||
nt|xenya: E is unlikely to have too many hearts|pg||
nt|moen: was 3@d invitational to game anyone know?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: Corsica is one of the finest islands in the world|pg||
nt|me argent: ahh i forgot about the forcing @C|pg||
nt|lc: Maybe 4@S is a make, but not a good spot.|pg||
nt|schutze: never said it was good, just that it can be made|pg||
nt|schutze: was bid & made against Wolff|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|lc: I would guess that the players suspect the match is quite close.|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|nt|jaapfr: ty specs 5x confirmed that they are all Corsican players|pg||
nt|baldjean: it is only a rumor that Corsican plays all play with knives up their sleeves for instant vendetta on their partners in case of a mistake :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: other island:)|pg||
nt|swanson: Dan has always been rather picky.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
nt|ritong: well, even if for some obscure reason he gives a @h, i m not sure this is enough to go down|pg||
pc|s7|nt|xenya: playing herats from top is fine, but might produce some problems with @Hs 4-1|pg||
nt|mariner1: well............|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: george is reading the daily bulletin:)|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg||
nt|lc: Keep in mind, that our scores here are unofficial (especially those from the Closed Room). |pg||
nt|lc: Sometimes when on VuGraph, the players look at the monitor BEFORE leaving the room to see the score -- but not until you compare with you r teammates can you be sure of anything.|pg||
nt|swanson: I could see N-S reaching 4@S at the other table - or picking up a number from E-W.|pg||
nt|chip: Tritt has good results on 57 and 58, so Meltzer probably needs a good result on the final board to have a chance.|pg||
nt|lc: I agree.|pg||
nt|lc: Although 57 is likely a push.|pg||
pc|c3|nt|xenya: ah sorry -- he makes it anyway as E has no more hearts :)|pg||
pc|cT|nt|mariner1: score one|pg||
nt|lc: This would be a big disappointment for MELTZER - past champions -- to exit at this stage.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c8|nt|jaapfr: but Greece is also terrific beautiful country|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|lc: Also, for those wondering, I'd say it is 98% that Rose (Meltzer) is watching us right now.  Hi Rose.  Try to keep calm --  it's not over yet.  :)|pg||
nt|swanson: The problem for everyone is that the competition is very tough.  One has to somewhere between well and very well to have a chance.|pg||
pc|s8|nt|swanson: He was probably just thinking whether it was better to try to discard the club immediately or play the conservative trump.|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|jaapfr: only their soccer:(|pg||
nt|baldjean: had to learn ancient Greek for my studies and still have nightmares about it occasionally :)|pg||
pc|sK|pc|d5|pg||
nt|mariner1: and he did go for the double @d hook hence the @h played that way|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hK|nt|baldjean: polyphloisbos thalatta, the many-tongued sea|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o60|st||md|2SAJ9HT72DQ86CA983,S54HK65D943CKQ754,SKQ876HAJ8DTCJT62,ST32HQ943DAKJ752C|sv|n|nt|ndemirev: hopefully we'll see  15|pg||
nt|lc: So, is this a swing board?|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: 1@S  2@D to start, then a limit raise?|pg||
nt|schutze: only if someone contrives to let 4S make|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: This board is on the table backward, I'm afraid, so the opposite people are bidding|pg||
nt|chip: Might make 4S. Might go down, might not bid it, so perhaps a swing.|pg||
mb|1S|nt|mariner1: nice 4@h here, should be quick|pg||
nt|sybarra: is there a way to make that?|pg||
nt|moen: wel they was in 3@d a few sec|pg||
mb|3D|nt|mariner1: EW have a 5@d save but I doubt they can find it|pg||
nt|xenya: EW have a save of sorts|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: khokhlov is thinking about that|pg||
mb|3S|nt|xenya: well if E bids 3@C now...|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: 4@c is a fit showing jump|pg||
nt|lc: 3@D not a bad shot opposite a passed partner.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: and matushko has to honore that, i guess|pg||
nt|mariner1: now W does save|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: early club up from dummy maybe?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 3@D was easy to make but 3nt had to find @DK first to make|pg||
nt|thegarve: probably the same auction as the open room|pg||
nt|lc: A heavy 3@S by Bates, but 3@S tends to be heavy here and caters to light-opening bid style.|pg||
nt|gosia: I like it :)|pg||
nt|chip: guess 4S can't be allowed to make here.|pg||
nt|lc: I guess, though the 3@S was by Sontag since Jan said we are "backwards."|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Stick around, Jan is going to try to get the last boards' comparisons.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: So Bates is really playing this, and Garber just led the @dA|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ritong: looks like three down|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: quantin is thinking about 5 @h or x |pg||
nt|xenya: yes|pg||
pc|d6|nt|sybarra: always had a @D loser|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|pg||
nt|chip: even 3S not easy with this lie.|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer has a bit of trouble with a spade shift here.|pg||
nt|schutze: right.  and soft defense could let 3D make the other way in the other room (if bid)|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Can they beat this if defense never touches hearts?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Now Sontag is a little "antsy" - should I tell him he was supposed to be the declarer on this hand? :)|pg||
nt|chip: E must play a trummp to have a chance, but declarer can always make it with good guessing.|pg||
nt|lc: By the way, of the many people to thank, Jan Martel is not only doing double-duty Vugraph operating here, but practically everything else to make this event work. Well done Jan ...|pg||
nt|lc: Martel!|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Thanks :)|pg||
nt|lc: Sonty was supposed to be antsy turning the dummy in 1@S X.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: I know, but he wasn't|pg||
pc|h4|nt|vugraphec1: good decision|pg||
nt|ritong: no big deal, but nice effort though|pg||
nt|jaapfr: @DK and fin gives no losers|pg||
pc|h2|nt|mariner1: we have lots more Euro Championships and The United States Seniors on vugraphs -   http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
nt|h_karluk: -3 likely|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
nt|sybarra: on last hand?  declarer had  a and k of @D |pg||
nt|ndemirev: E may push once over 3nt although not so certain with no fit and suit |pg||
nt|starkist: is 2@c something special?|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|nt|starkist: oh yah 16+|pg||
nt|vlad9: should be 16+ with clubs|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|starkist: still in shock :)|pg||
nt|swanson: There is a possible red suit squeeze here for an overtrick.|pg||
pc|s5|nt|vlad9: :)|pg||
pc|s6|nt|mariner1: has to be careful not to give up an extra trick|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|me argent: seems looby a touch 2 active|pg||
nt|chip: still some pitfalls, but likely to prevail.|pg||
nt|harmon: .|pg||
nt|chip: he had no safe exit (partner could have Qx in spades)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Garber, not Looby - they put the board on the table backwards and I'm too lazy to change the names |pg||
pc|s9|nt|baldjean: a bit strange for West not to cover @d|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ritong: heh|pg||
nt|starkist: good stop|pg||
nt|ndemirev: yeah, 4nt is in danger |pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|pg||
nt|mariner1: and there he does|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h3|nt|ritong: getting rid of the @s 9 is a rule overhere|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
mc|9|nt|xenya: down 2 now|pg||
nt|sybarra: aha  yes I see,  play K of @D first |pg||
nt|swanson: South has to return a diamond now to break it up.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu7: Sorry, it's amazing how hard it is to see the play when the board is on the table the wrong way! But they agreed on 9 tricks. I'll go try to get more results from the other table|pg||
nt|lc: Thanks all for watching.  I know many will stay for the final score -- gotta' go myself.  Bye!|pg||
nt|chip: Tritt picked up 7 IMPS on board 58 when 1S-DBL went down 1 in the closed room. |pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Looking more like upset here.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Tough event, but just wait 'til Meckwell qualify to play in Senior events:)|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: That's if they do not continue to win the Open Trials|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: OK, with 1 board to go that is the score.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Will see you all tomorrow for the Semifinals|pg||
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qx|c60|st||md|2SAJ9HT72DQ86CA983,S54HK65D943CKQ754,SKQ876HAJ8DTCJT62,ST32HQ943DAKJ752C|sv|n|nt|brolucius: Commendably speedy. |pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|nt|me argent: par contre les 2 mot bien jouer est un surencherie|pg||
mb|3D|nt|vugraphec3: altra difesina|pg||
nt|chmitty: quelle redemande en Ouest sur 1@d textas @h|pg||
nt|chmitty: texas*|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|reisig: Pass here ..seems normal|pg||
nt|chmitty: sur 1@c 1@h on dirait 3@c ou 2@d (optimiste) là ils ont plus d'espace|pg||
nt|me argent: il nie 4@Ss avec lencher de 1@H?|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: il promet 3@h mais je ne sais pas si ça dénie 4@s|pg||
mb|p|nt|royhughes: Maybe the safest way to play this is to play diamonds from hand|pg||
nt|royhughes: That preserves the hand entries to enjoy them|pg||
nt|me argent: apparement pas|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphec3: di mattina si e' poco coraggiosi|pg||
nt|chmitty: exact|pg||
pc|h7|nt|chmitty: 3SA fin|pg||
pc|h5|nt|brolucius: Yes, that looks fine.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|sT|nt|juan lukas: on peut supposer que Franck a decrit 3 cartes @h + 6 cartes @c ds un jeu de seconde zone |pg||
pc|s9|nt|chmitty: le 7 de @s est une belle carte|pg||
nt|chmitty: ça évite le risque de perdre 4 levées à @s si on prend et si la main va à droite|pg||
nt|chmitty: pas besoin de duquer le roi donc|pg||
nt|juan lukas: exact mais ici une carte peu utile car la main n'ira pas en N :)|pg||
nt|vugraphece: J faria hi|pg||
pc|s4|nt|reisig: 5 more hands ..this set ..all more exciting than these 2|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s2|nt|8252: :)|pg||
nt|juan lukas: 10 levées |pg||
nt|chmitty: pas encore |pg||
nt|juan lukas: 3@c 4@d 2@h 1@s non ? |pg||
nt|chmitty: si sud rejoue @d il risque de jouer les @c du mort en tête|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|brolucius: The Great Shuffler will realise that he is on his final warning for 1NT contracts (with four already). I trust He will not disappoint us.|pg||
nt|royhughes: NS got to 1N because they weren't playing a certain convention|pg||
nt|brolucius: That is because of the learned advice handed out by the more well-trained BBO commentators.|pg||
nt|juan lukas: oui mais le 10 de @d est second |pg||
nt|chmitty: là oui|pg||
nt|mgchat: vraiment trop aimables|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sA|pc|d4|nt|brolucius: A witty kibitzer tells me that: 'At least North gets to take A Knap during this hand!'   All groan together.....|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|h3|pc|cA|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dK|mc|8|pg||
