vg|2008 USSBC - QUARTERFINALS - 4 V 5,Segment 1 of 4,I,1,15,ONSTOTT,0,DEMARTINO,0|
rs|3SS=,3SS=,2HE-1,2HE+2,2SS+1,2SS=,3NS-2,2SN=,4SE-1,4SE-1,3CN+2,3HN=,5CE-2,4HW=,4HN-1,2CWx-2,3NN-2,3NN-2,3NN+3,3NN+3,4SE-1,4SE+1,3HW-1,3HW-1,1NS+1,1NS=,3NE+1,4SE+1,6HW=,6HW=|
pn|Onstott,Demartino,Casen,Colchimaro,EISENSTEIN,WOLFF,JABBOUR,MORSE|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SAKT95HQ952D98C98,SJ4HAK3DKQT752CQ5,S8632HT74DA3CAK43,SQ7HJ86DJ64CJT762|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Good Morning all|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hJ|mc|9|nt|irka: good morning eveone|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Hi Irina:)|pg||
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qx|c1|st||md|3SAKT95HQ952D98C98,SJ4HAK3DKQT752CQ5,S8632HT74DA3CAK43,SQ7HJ86DJ64CJT762|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Hello everyone and welcome back to Pau|pg||
mb|p|nt|cicus: hi everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Hello all|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: good afternoon and welcome back to Pau:)|pg||
nt|richie: good afternoon everybody|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good morning all|pg||
pc|dK|nt|hedyg: our operator is Serge Pacthod|pg||
mc|9|nt|hedyg: bonjour Serge:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi Richie:)|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: Hi all|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome to David Burn and Gábor Szõts|pg||
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qx|o2|st||md|4SQ8H5DAKJ82CQJT43,SAJ96HQ843DT654C6,ST753HKT92DQ7CK87,SK42HAJ76D93CA952|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|r|an|2 diamonds|nt|vdoubleu: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=23&Itemid=161|pg||
mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vdoubleu: This is the Quarterfinals|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: (8 teams)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu4: Hi All|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Hi Richard:)|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: 3@c by South here?|pg||
nt|irka: not easy to bid more with south hand vul|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: True|pg||
mb|p!|pc|dA|nt|vdoubleu: Favorable spade lie should see this one home.|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: This event began yesterday, w/10 teams & then there were 8.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|h3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d6|pc|cK|pc|h6|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|h5|pc|s9|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|sT|pc|hA|mc|7|pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4SQ8H5DAKJ82CQJT43,SAJ96HQ843DT654C6,ST753HKT92DQ7CK87,SK42HAJ76D93CA952|sv|n|nt|idc: so Finland break on top by the smallest possible margin|pg||
nt|Walddk2: We have A and B groups right now|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Then we will have *one* A group with 18 teams|pg||
mb|1C|nt|richie: straightforward 3NT (safest in north)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Why did declarer guess the hearts?|pg||
nt|cicus: can NS find their 4@S?|pg||
nt|brgpro: that's what i meant.....probably in a Chinese way....|pg||
mb|1D|nt|hedyg: hmm another Vozabal in the CR?|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: a dull 3NT here, so I can do some wotk for school now :)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Because West didn't lead one|pg||
nt|idc: as the late and missed Ron Anderson would have said|pg||
nt|bjacobs: So there was a strong possibility this was because West had @HQ|pg||
mb|d|nt|cicus: there will be no B group, they go home|pg||
nt|brgpro: i mean next time the top half will be in A and others in B? will this be the case?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No|pg||
mb|1N|nt|sommer: S' hand would be a bit dangerous using cap, 2@S as @S+minor wouldn't give the hand full credit|pg||
nt|brgpro: ok, so this is going to be the new format|pg||
mb|2H|nt|bjacobs: Always worth watching for these negative inferences on the lead|pg||
nt|Walddk2: There will be no B group after stage 1|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: use a pink pen Jan:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: EW play 2/1 with multi and Muiderberg, 1@d= 5+ cards except if 4 4 4 1|pg||
nt|talion: not sure does 2@h promises @h + minor ? i hope so :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The teams for the B group (20) will go home|pg||
nt|cicus: 3@C implies spades|pg||
nt|cicus: and a strong hand|pg||
nt|sommer: seems so, yes|pg||
nt|cicus: with hearts, he'll bid higher, as 2@S promised heart interest|pg||
mb|p|pc|h5|nt|hedyg: i refuse to believe that the same pair is playing in both rooms|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: it wasn't alerted 2@h|pg||
nt|sommer: Bocchi got the message for sure|pg||
nt|brgpro: depends on their agreement about how str. is this 3@c....|pg||
nt|brgpro: i would not dare to accept right away with all my Kings in the red suits|pg||
pc|h3|nt|jan_jansma: a dull 4@H ?|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|idc: both pairs are 5 card majors, stong NT, but Lauria/Versace have lots of frills|pg||
nt|cicus: one of them might be useful|pg||
pc|cA|nt|jan_jansma: :)|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|nt|hedyg: Serge tu est sure des noms?|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|c5|nt|hedyg: pour EW|pg||
pc|c4|pc|h4|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|h8|pc|cK|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Will North totally sacrifice his trump trick?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: He's getting "two for one" with every diamond lead he makes|pg||
nt|idc: even one down will be a few IMPs to the Finns with them making 2@c in other room|pg||
nt|bjacobs: "Two trumps for the price of one!" screams the marketing campaign on this defence|pg||
nt|idc: buy while stocks last!|pg||
nt|idc: extra deliveries of trumps would come in handy on many deals|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Of course this third round does seem more painful - hence the pause|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|bjacobs: But what pretty defence this has been by Lauria|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
nt|talion: yes, very nice defence|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|s5|mc|10|pg||
qx|o3|st||md|1S964HA5DJ8654C943,SKJHJ43DAKT7CKT75,SAQT2HKT62DQCAQ82,S8753HQ987D932CJ6|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2D!|an|majors|mb|p|nt|hedyg: hello:)|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Hey Hedy@h|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: This will make ---rmeembering I predicted the last one would:)|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|s6|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|s2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|d9|pc|c9|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c3|st||md|1S964HA5DJ8654C943,SKJHJ43DAKT7CKT75,SAQT2HKT62DQCAQ82,S8753HQ987D932CJ6|sv|e|nt|MolvaM: selamlar hoþgeldiniz|pg||
nt|yusufb: selamm|pg||
nt|pikonlu: merhaba, herkese iyi gunler|pg||
nt|phantoma: merhaba|pg||
nt|MolvaM: avrupa þampiyonasýnda 8. maçlar oynanýyor þu an|pg||
nt|pikonlu: dogu bati icin tehlikeli bir board, pikte umarim fazla yukselmezler |pg||
nt|MolvaM: bu maça baþlarken türkiye genel klasmanda 10. durumda|pg||
nt|MolvaM: þimdi beklerken bazý önemli bilgileri verelim|pg||
nt|MolvaM: avrupa þampiyonasý 19ar takýmlýk 2 grupta oynanýyor|pg||
nt|MolvaM: toplam 38 tk arasýnda|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hedef: grupta ilk 9a girmek|pg||
nt|MolvaM: tabii bunu grup maçlarý tamamlandýðýnda yapmamýz gerek|pg||
nt|brgpro: as i said, depends on how their style is|pg||
nt|cicus: well done - and lose 5 IMP's|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2D|nt|MolvaM: grupta son maç 2a haziran ctesi sabahý yapýlacak|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1@D = hearts|pg||
nt|brgpro: they can't copy that result...i suspect their X would have been conventional|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: 21 haziran|pg||
nt|cicus: OR was caught - they had no means to find their escape to diamonds|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Anyone for more than 3@D?|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|jan_jansma: 1@D waiting|pg||
mb|p|nt|cicus: borderline, might miss 3NT if bids higher|pg||
mb|p|pc|dK|nt|pikonlu: ilk iki board sonunda 8.lige ciktik bile :) 6. ile 14. arasýnda puan farký cok az|pg||
nt|MolvaM: yani 21 haziran saat 15te ilk 9 da isek turnuva devam edecek|pg||
nt|yusufb: iyi durduk|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I would be 4@D I must confess|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|hedyg: 1@c=2+|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: 1@H any weak NT or 5@C and 4@H (I assume)|pg||
nt|talion: straightforward bidding sequence to 4@s here|pg||
nt|pikonlu: evet, 1@S'e 3@S dememsi cok iyi oldu, 3@S de bir tercih|pg||
nt|MolvaM: yani þu an için paniðe kapýlmaya gerek yok her ne kadar sýnýrda da olsak|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: 1@S asked 1NT = any weak NT|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|MolvaM: millilerimize güveniyoruz|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|jan_jansma: Staynman|pg||
nt|Walddk2: *bid|pg||
nt|brgpro: yes, 3NT=Pd i have a running ( or almost) suit, do u have a stopper( or stoppers in all suits)?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: How likely is it that you will get doubled?|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: and now they will transfer to @C|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: OOPS|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Penalty doubles rarely exist anyway nowadays|pg||
pc|h2|nt|idc: unlike the Open Room - strong 1@c there and 2@d showing 8-12 bal|pg||
nt|yusufb: evet iskocya macýyla yükseliþe gececegimizi tahmin ettim insallah yanýlmam|pg||
nt|pikonlu: ben ilk 9'a rahat gireceklerini dusunuyorum.|pg||
pc|h7|nt|dburn: well, if partner could not bid over 1@c someone will probably double you in 4@d|pg||
pc|hA|nt|jan_jansma: the 1NT reabid was 13-16 as they play a 10-12 NT here|pg||
nt|brgpro: the problem is that u wont et doubled in 3NT and u will have to concede 100 a trick painfully|pg||
nt|dburn: whether or not they will then pass it out is another matter|pg||
nt|Walddk2: But would that be for penalty, David?|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: Thanks Jacco Hop|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: (The winner (Again) of the Dutch top Tounament :) )|pg||
pc|h5|nt|hedyg: so much for 3NT|pg||
nt|richie: it makes sense that they miss this 3NT when 1NT shows 13-16    at the other table it won´t be a problem to bid this game I guess|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg||
nt|brgpro: -300 or more feel like concede a game to the non-vul. opps|pg||
nt|dburn: not entirely, but at the four level the opponents tend to shrug and take the money|pg||
pc|h6|nt|talion: maybe lauria liked his trump plays on last hand and tried them once more? :)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: ctesi akþam ilk 9a giremeyen takýmlar için avrupa þampiyonasý bitecek maalesef|pg||
pc|h9|nt|cicus: hmm, a bold return|pg||
pc|s4|nt|Walddk2: running scores: http://tinyurl.com/5gawuf|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: the wide ranging 1NT rebid was the problem here|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o4|st||md|2SAK3HAQ97DQ5C5432,SQ8652H43DJ762CJ6,SJT97HT62DAK3CQ98,S4HKJ85DT984CAKT7|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|irka: 4th hand and all part scores...|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|vdoubleu: Yes, but on Board 2, where I thought they would (should) make 2@h, in the other room they made 4, to draw 1st blood.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|irka: bad 1 nt w/o club stopper|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s2|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg||
nt|irka: club lead would be better, but temping to lead a major after 1 nt-3nt bidding, on another hand why lead a sp if you have zero entryies|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|d7|nt|irka: entries|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Agree|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: East will exit here with a diamond.|pg||
pc|dT|nt|vdoubleu: And sit back & wait.|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|s6|pc|cQ|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2SAK3HAQ97DQ5C5432,SQ8652H43DJ762CJ6,SJT97HT62DAK3CQ98,S4HKJ85DT984CAKT7|sv|b|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: running scores: http://tinyurl.com/5tung5|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|talion: can 4@h be made by NS here?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Seems so|pg||
nt|talion: looks like 5@d also has some chances...|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: The Open Room auction is mildly surprising|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|idc: In Open Room, 2@h was an enquiry, not natural - system made @h fit hard to find|pg||
nt|pikonlu: dogu bati icin etliye sutluye bulasma elleri|pg||
nt|yusufb: pas?|pg||
nt|cicus: can't we claim?|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Well, there goes 4@H|pg||
mb|p|pc|cK|nt|hedyg: 2@c=22-23 balanced or 9.5 tricks in M or gf any|pg||
nt|richie: so far for 3nt|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d waiting|pg||
nt|MolvaM: þimdi sýkça sorulan soruya cevap verelim|pg||
nt|brgpro: quick board..7 tricks|pg||
pc|c2|nt|MolvaM: sýkça sorulan soru: "bizim takým bugün BBOya çýkacak mý"|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|richie: EW still have 600 in 5@d|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2NT shows a maximum and asks for number of cards in @H.....|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|bjacobs: But 5@D looks makeable|pg||
pc|dT|nt|idc: i should say system made @h fit harder to find - it isn't easy to get to no matter how it goes|pg||
nt|brgpro: we need Joey here...Next|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|MolvaM: hergün yayýnlanacak maçlar bir önceki gece belirleniyor|pg||
nt|MolvaM: ve eðer türkiye  bboya çýkacak ise|pg||
pc|d7|nt|hedyg: maybe not:(|pg||
nt|hedyg: sry puppet stayman|pg||
nt|hedyg: i think pass E over the X denied stopper in @C|pg||
nt|hedyg: XX= tell me more pd|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: Am impressed if they can get to 5@D|pg||
nt|hedyg: so is 3@d now natural as in baron?|pg||
nt|hedyg: or is it still reply to puppet?|pg||
nt|richie: must have been, difficult decision for west, 5@d is possible but he can hope for @c4-3 and still bid 3nt like bertens-bakkeren did|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: in the same auction in the closed room|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: Bakkeren now tried 3NT|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: (Not unreasonable)|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: He IS considering it|pg||
nt|hedyg: if this is repuppet they are in big trouble to find the @d fit|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Either hearts provide a pitch for clubs, or clubs provide a pitch for hearts|pg||
nt|MolvaM: kimli bilinmeyen bazý kiþi veya kiþiler bunu TBF web sayfasýnda yayýnlýyor|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|nt|jan_jansma: 3@H waiting|pg||
pc|dA|nt|hedyg: treated as puppet|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: 3NT = not what West was hoping for|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: WOW|pg||
nt|Walddk2: True, the defence can choose their poison|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Club switch would not have helped as some specs suggest|pg||
nt|talion: yes. defence cannot do both things. build a heart and club trick. declarer is going to be step a head|pg||
pc|dK|nt|yusufb: 3 den actý diye zafer x atmamýs olabilir ama olede olsa acýlan renk iyidir KXX @c ile x denmesi lazým bence en ktu 4-3 e 3@h oynar|pg||
pc|d8|nt|jan_jansma: well done|pg||
pc|c3|nt|hedyg: wow got there!!!!!!!|pg||
nt|hedyg: excellent|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: I assume the pass over 3@C denied a stopper|pg||
nt|richie: good judgement by the czechs!|pg||
nt|hedyg: not a good start for Netherland|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: Am impressed|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: They Czech's often lead with a few minutes to go, so no problem yet for the Dutch :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|nt|MolvaM: tbf sayfasýna bakanlar maçýn yayýnlanacaðýný öðreniyorlar|pg||
pc|h9|nt|hedyg: running scores at: http://tinyurl.com/4ta8na|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|nt|bjacobs: Was that a weak 2@D opening in the OR?|pg||
pc|s9|nt|idc: yes|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|MolvaM: imkan bulursanýz TBF web sayfasýna bakmanýzý öneririm www.tbricfed.org.tr|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|nt|talion: no. it promised 8-11 and 5+@d|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://tinyurl.com/6yfkwa    for Open Teams system cards|pg||
nt|talion: and denied 4+ card majors|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|c4|nt|pikonlu: e-w alaýnabilecek maksimum loveyi aldi|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|s6|pc|cQ|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3S9HJ842DT65CKQ985,SAK72HKT5DQ74CA72,S86HAQ96DAJ82CJ43,SQJT543H73DK93CT6|sv|n|mb|1D|an|4+!D|mb|2S|nt|irka: north can make 3 nt if finn heart 9 tricks|pg||
nt|irka: on last hand|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Yes, he cld.|pg||
mb|d|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vdoubleu: And perhaps he should have after the lead.|pg||
mb|p|pc|cK|nt|irka: yes spade lead give him extra entry to  dummy|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: West might have dreamed but, with an opener on his left, he took the direct road to game.|pg||
nt|irka: 17 points might not be enuf do make a game after pard week bid non vul|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Especially since he has no source of tricks.|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Just random high cards, & his heart K does not rate to be of value.|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg||
nt|irka: right|pg||
pc|s5|pc|c8|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h7|nt|vdoubleu: Diamond 10 play might have been costly here.|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3S9HJ842DT65CKQ985,SAK72HKT5DQ74CA72,S86HAQ96DAJ82CJ43,SQJT543H73DK93CT6|sv|n|nt|idc: then an enquiry, 2NT showed min in 8-11 range|pg||
nt|bjacobs: A bit unlucky for Finland there ... the preemptive action pushed N/S into a game they may not otherwise have bid|pg||
mb|1D|nt|hedyg: sry try here: running scores at: http://tinyurl.com/482zg4|pg||
mb|2S|nt|pikonlu: 3@D tercih eden olur mu ? zon durumuda musait|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Good morning to Peter Crouch|pg||
nt|yusufb: ortak pastan gelseydi belki|pg||
mb|p|pc|cK|nt|pitiful: good morning|pg||
nt|sommer: one more partial, but will @H or @C take it?|pg||
nt|cicus: is 1@S forcing ?|pg||
pc|c2|nt|idc: hi Peter|pg||
pc|c4|nt|Walddk2: How can it be by a passed hand?|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: A good stop from Vozabal here|pg||
nt|hedyg: rare to be allowed to play on the 2 level nowadays|pg||
nt|phantoma: cok fazla gibi 3@H|pg||
nt|brgpro: will Duboin balance 2NT?|pg||
nt|sommer: 3@C is makeable, but will S balance? ..no|pg||
nt|cicus: then why not 2@H?|pg||
nt|cicus: that was my point|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|nt|phantoma: baslari belada|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Maybe 2@H shows less in their methods|pg||
pc|dA|nt|talion: hi|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Peter has promised to make less pitiful comments today, and he won't say a word about Acol either|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|yusufb: 1@c-1@d yede pas entresan neden 1nt denmez?|pg||
nt|pikonlu: no dbl no trouble|pg||
nt|yakop: forsing ne yapsýn|pg||
nt|phantoma: diklic kirmizi kartini evde unutmus|pg||
nt|yakop: bastan 2 karo dese iyiydi|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|pitiful: :), my comments always pitiful Roland|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 2@h forsing midir?|pg||
nt|yakop: evet|pg||
pc|cT|nt|Walddk2: 2@H is four hearts or max without majors, 2@S asks for clarification|pg||
nt|bjacobs: That's true.  Every comment I read warns me that I am about to read a Pitiful comment|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
nt|idc: those sorts of comments usually my trademark at this time in morning (10am for me)|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|sQ|pc|c8|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Think I'll make up a BBO login called "Brilliant"|pg||
nt|Walddk2: It's taken|pg||
nt|Walddk2: by me :)|pg||
nt|idc: but thanks to Madame Lavazza's wonderful coffee, I *may* ne ok this morning|pg||
nt|pitiful: how about useless :)|pg||
nt|brgpro: difficult to balance with the S cards...2-2 majors, unfavorable....and no great suits....|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c9|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h6|nt|yusufb: 10 puan var ortagý 1den ters zonda 1@c actý deklereye hic karýsmadý entresan mac olcak |pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4SQ62H65DQT43CJ987,SJT83HT4D98762CK2,SK7HAQ983DACAQ653,SA954HKJ72DKJ5CT4|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|irka: when you see K9x dont this it write to switch dia 10 can coast a contract|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: .|pg||
mb|2H|mb|2S|an|4 !Ss|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|irka: west very agressive with 1 sp bid  on 4 points, at least he will run to pard dia in case if opps double|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Yes, agree Irina.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: I tend to pass.|pg||
pc|s7|nt|irka: 2 sp down 2 probably|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
nt|irka: time to claim|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SQ62H65DQT43CJ987,SJT83HT4D98762CK2,SK7HAQ983DACAQ653,SA954HKJ72DKJ5CT4|sv|e|nt|jan_jansma: Bakkeren tried with his 11HCP at the other table, reaching the doomed 4@S|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I am told that in their system 1@S is a 1-round force, even by a passed hand|pg||
mb|1D|nt|yusufb: 2 battý ama belki zarar etmeyiz nt de 9 love var|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: I get an extra 10% when I say that the contract is wash&go, 11% when it's head&shoulders|pg||
nt|pitiful: north south will do well in @s|pg||
nt|bjacobs: very good|pg||
mb|2D|nt|idc: kirku kibitzer tells me West's firm is Finland team sponsor|pg||
nt|pikonlu: 6@S kolayca deklere edilecektir|pg||
nt|cicus: that explains it|pg||
nt|brgpro: and, even if u have the courage to balance, E will compete with 3@h and W will know how to play the @s suit for 140 anyway|pg||
nt|sommer: 3NT in N?|pg||
mb|d|nt|jan_jansma: (On this lay-out :) )|pg||
mb|p|nt|yakop: belki de yedi derler ne malum:)|pg||
mb|2S|nt|richie: 2@s is weak with 5@s and 5m|pg||
nt|idc: so I'm going to mention Juutools ... for quadruple payment!|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|pikonlu: kuzey guney zayif NT mi oynuyor?|pg||
nt|atalok: herkese slm|pg||
nt|MolvaM: öyle gibi duruyor|pg||
nt|yusufb: slmmm |pg||
nt|sommer: normally 2NT is 15-17 or 15-18, so it's difficult to bid the game|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jan_jansma: @S lead?|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: and an imm @D finesse?|pg||
nt|richie: difficult lead, spade is not very attractive to me|pg||
mb|p|nt|talion: lots of tricks here in spades and hearts|pg||
nt|bjacobs: This will tie up the match|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
pc|h9|nt|hedyg: well he found pds suit:)|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg||
nt|pikonlu: yanilmak bazen cok keyifli oluyor|pg||
nt|yusufb: kolayca 4@s dendi:)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: :)  devamýný dileriz hüseyin|pg||
nt|yakop: abiler cok saglam takýlýyo|pg||
pc|h2|nt|yakop: batmayý sevmiyolar galiba kesin roberciler|pg||
nt|yusufb: dedim ya entresan olcak |pg||
nt|MolvaM: spiljak 2 kör kaybýndan korktu sanýrým|pg||
pc|h6|nt|MolvaM: dikliç 3@h demeyince|pg||
pc|hT|nt|dburn: would be difficult to make it too, if West had a diamond honour|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|sommer: ...maybe it was a good idea to stay in 2N......|pg||
nt|dburn: you would have to win the first heart (else they could always beat you by shifting to spades)|pg||
pc|cA|nt|bjacobs: In fact, Finland moves into the lead|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c3|nt|yakop: guneyden nt acildiktan sonra transferi kýrarsa gerisi cok kolay|pg||
nt|sommer: right|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|nt|dburn: and then you would need East to hold both the ace and king of diamonds|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|dburn: and probably the club finesse as well|pg||
nt|cicus: 4@H on previous board was allowed to make in OR...|pg||
nt|brgpro: is W still hoping to beat this?|pg||
pc|d9|nt|brgpro: don't think he really discarded @sJ|pg||
pc|h3|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg||
nt|yusufb: kýrmasada kolay |pg||
nt|pikonlu: 5 numarali boardda rakipler benim 3@D onerime hemen uymuslar|pg||
nt|MolvaM: bu esnada diðer masayý da seyretmek isterseniz|pg||
nt|phantoma: iceride de bizimkiler 4 oynuyor diye duydum|pg||
nt|MolvaM: link budur: http://www.bbotv.com/v2/client_v13/bbo.php?m=n&v=y|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|d6|pc|c5|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hK|mc|9|pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1ST874H952DJT83CT2,SA6HQT863DK52C765,SKQJ52HAJ7DQ7C984,S93HK4DA964CAKQJ3|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|3S|an|weak|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|nt|vdoubleu: On Board 5, in the other room, we did not see, per the Movie , the entire play to see how it was made.|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
nt|irka: i cannot see how they make 4 sp on board 5|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hK|nt|vdoubleu: :)|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: They must play a lot better than all of us:)|pg||
nt|irka: they claim after drow a trump , and dont show to us full  declarer play|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Yes, that is what I meant.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|s7|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dQ|nt|irka: 3 sp on this hand helps opp to reach good 5 cl contract insted of 3nt down1|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1ST874H952DJT83CT2,SA6HQT863DK52C765,SKQJ52HAJ7DQ7C984,S93HK4DA964CAKQJ3|sv|b|nt|idc: We have 2nd & 3rd place teams in flight A in tyhis match, Czech Republic leading section|pg||
nt|yusufb: bu elde salvoda yalcýnda deklerede hatalý salvo 3@d demeliydi yalcýndada 4keycard 4lu koz var cue ile kaldýrmasý lazým|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: ok they played too fast for Serge|pg||
nt|yusufb: bu bord sadece bizim macta egale olur gibi|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Czech not really leading - they've just been given their 18 points for the bye ahead of time|pg||
nt|pikonlu: guney 4333 ve karolardan korkuyor, kuzey ise kozlarin kalitesizliginden|pg||
mb|1S|nt|atalok: 6 sp 7 sp 4 sp?|pg||
nt|pikonlu: 7 pik |pg||
nt|yusufb: 4@c kaldýrsýn yekten ben ondan bundan korkuyom olurmu|pg||
nt|pikonlu: :) ben 6'ya raziyim|pg||
nt|yakop: guneyden 3 nt ye 4cl demek gerekirdi|pg||
mb|2C|nt|richie: 2@d shows one major|pg||
nt|bjacobs: So someone can do a screenshot of the web page and say: "We were leading the Europeans"|pg||
mb|p|nt|yakop: 5d|pg||
nt|phantoma: artik problem olmaz tez 3@S den sonra|pg||
mb|2H|nt|idc: ahha, I see what you mean - bye for this round added already|pg||
nt|Walddk2: running scores: http://tinyurl.com/5tung5|pg||
mb|p|nt|pikonlu: acik oda 6@S dedi|pg||
nt|yakop: az geldi:)|pg||
mb|4H|nt|richie: best thing NS can do is penalise 2@s but it won´t be easy while they both hold 3 spades|pg||
nt|idc: so 1st & 2nd on show here|pg||
nt|bjacobs: It's a phantom sacrifice here, but West's bidding seems automatic|pg||
nt|pikonlu: dbl deklerasyonu rahatlatacak|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|phantoma: 7 bile denebilir |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Nothing to the play here|pg||
nt|brgpro: 12-14 NT?|pg||
mb|p|nt|idc: as it happens, sac is against non making game - 4@h down 1 (or 2 on @c ruff)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Some might quibble at the overcall|pg||
nt|pikonlu: simdi 4@H'e de guney dbl desin tam olur|pg||
nt|yusufb: evet 7 denebilir deklere iyi gidiyo|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|nt|yakop: simdi as sorabilir rahatca ortakta karo asý yok|pg||
nt|atalok: bence 5nt iyidir|pg||
pc|s4|nt|yusufb: 5nt|pg||
nt|yakop: 7cl mi?|pg||
nt|atalok: bravo zafer|pg||
nt|pikonlu: bravo zafer|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Will lose 2 spades and 1 heart|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|pikonlu: suleyman, sen 7@C derdin herhalde|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes, 12-14|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|nt|jan_jansma: Deep finesse tells me -2|pg||
nt|hedyg: you use DF?|pg||
nt|hedyg: wow|pg||
nt|richie: more commentators should use DF |pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: Do yuo think I do not? He outplays me all the time :(|pg||
nt|hedyg: LOL|pg||
nt|hedyg: i only see 7 tricks|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: So does Drijver|pg||
nt|hedyg: LOL|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: His only chance seems @CTx in East|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: to set up the @C, while keeping East of lead|pg||
nt|hedyg: he needs a miracle like Q10 stiff in @D or KQ stiff in @c in W........|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: Maybe run the @DJ|pg||
nt|hedyg: no Q10 stiff in @d not enough|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: Txx in East|pg||
nt|richie: or if west holds x    Jxxx    QTxx   KQTx   he can play @dJ in trick 2 and endplay west|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: or QTx in West|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: lets see how he will try|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: (we all know he won't succeed)|pg||
nt|hedyg: he might go to be sick  first|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: Running the @DJ seems best, I think|pg||
nt|hedyg: now 2@s doubled...............|pg||
nt|hedyg: wasnt that penalty?|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: All doubled from BD are take-out |pg||
nt|jan_jansma: doubles|pg||
nt|yusufb: bravo dicezde bi 7 diyelim|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h4|nt|jan_jansma: @DJ|pg||
pc|h5|nt|pikonlu: :(|pg||
nt|yakop: cevap verdi iki tane diye|pg||
nt|atalok: tez hoca????|pg||
nt|MolvaM: maalesef|pg||
nt|yusufb: bu kadar güzel konusmaya sonu gelmedi|pg||
nt|atalok: 3 bosla 5 nt diyen hic olurmu?|pg||
pc|hT|nt|talion: good lead by versace. some might have lead @sQ...|pg||
nt|idc: With that shape and in particular opposite passed partner, I'd say o/c is borderline|pg||
nt|yusufb: yanlardan korktu belliki ama ortagý ona koz sordu yanlar zaferin sorumlulugu|pg||
nt|pikonlu: garonun dedigi gibi 2 onor gosteriyorsa, 6@S son karar olmali|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: or @C2 :)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: agreed|pg||
nt|bjacobs: What exactly might a 2@D overcall gain?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I suppose you could still have 3NT on|pg||
nt|idc: vul too - though players don't like to get frozen out of auction after enemy 3rd hand opening|pg||
nt|pitiful: if you are going to bid then a 1NT stretch is better imo|pg||
nt|idc: i have some sympathy with 2@d but it has potential downsides|pg||
nt|talion: can kiema play this for one down by going up with @s K|pg||
nt|pitiful: i have little sympathy for 2@d|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Regarding the @SQ lead ... I think it would be a poor choice.  There's no ruff to be had.  But @HQ would be reasonable|pg||
nt|idc: elimination & endplay after @sK, nice|pg||
nt|bjacobs: He has to decide between North having @SAQxxx and @SAxxxx - pretty difficult|pg||
nt|idc: bidding may help - North should have respectable opening for final Dbl|pg||
nt|idc: but needs QT exactly, so maybe won't find it|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|nt|pikonlu: bari 7 yapip 1 imp alalim, teselli olur|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s6|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: hoping for @CT7|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d4|nt|jan_jansma: this quick @D5 does not look like holding the @DQ|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: o/e discards in EW, so small even @H was for @D|pg||
nt|hedyg: even discards are suit preference|pg||
nt|hedyg: take your seven tricks and make imps!|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: I would signal for @S with East's hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: he doesnt need to do that?|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: :)|pg||
nt|yusufb: 6@h 2 taneyse zafer niye 7 demedi|pg||
pc|s8|nt|sommer: S can't afford to play @S yet|pg||
nt|sommer: ..but why should he?|pg||
nt|cicus: to try his luck...|pg||
nt|sommer: just let EW have 2 @S tricks|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|d6|nt|hedyg: decided to run|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|pikonlu: anlamadi belkide|pg||
nt|MolvaM: seyirciler 5nt hakkýnda bilgi istiyorlar. genellikle bu"ortak 2 tepe onörün var ise 7 pik de" anlamýnda oynanýyor|pg||
mc|10|nt|bjacobs: No I don't think the @S10 was required|pg||
pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2SKJT5HAJ62DAQ83C5,SQ82H3DT642CKQ932,SA43HQ974D97CJ864,S976HKT85DKJ5CAT7|sv|o|nt|irka: 5 cl should me mad, but east do not show to us his declare abilities|pg||
nt|irka: made|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|irka: ops sorry he cannot make 5 cl|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: No|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vdoubleu: Needed the club 9 in dummy, for an extra entry.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cT|nt|vdoubleu: Will this make?|pg||
nt|irka: not easy to make this, need find sp q|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: If he finds spade Q, will he make it?|pg||
nt|irka: looser a club and 2 trumps|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Yes.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg||
nt|irka: i bet it will be down|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: But he has no specific  reason to guess spde Q.|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|h4|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|d8|pg||
pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SKJT5HAJ62DAQ83C5,SQ82H3DT642CKQ932,SA43HQ974D97CJ864,S976HKT85DKJ5CAT7|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: and Netherlands is on the board!|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|nt|bjacobs: 5@D is very unlucky here, ditto 3NT|pg||
nt|talion: not bad 5@d for EW here|pg||
mb|2C|nt|talion: but on this layout it dosent make|pg||
nt|idc: he had s9 anyway, so South unblocking @sQ never works, just ignore all my coments about @sQ|pg||
nt|yusufb: üsttüste 2 fýrsat kacýrdýk|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Some sort of "Good Bad 2NT" stuff here|pg||
nt|talion: gues 2NT by juuri oja would have shown competive hand with clubs or diamonds (or hearts?)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I don't know about you ... I do play Good/Bad 2NT but hardly ever remember it|pg||
nt|pitiful: close decision here for east|pg||
nt|idc: yes, 3@d shows full value not stretched competitive bid|pg||
nt|pitiful: i think i would bid 4@d|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 5@D is roughly 85% according to Norberto Bocchi who is commentating next door|pg||
nt|pitiful: maybe that is not enough|pg||
nt|idc: s!k doesn't look full value, I think I'd pass|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: a healthy 2@s fit|pg||
nt|idc: @sK|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Instead, he cue-bids it :)|pg||
nt|idc: but I miss a lot of games...|pg||
nt|yusufb: tabii rakip icinde ole ama biz kendimize bakýyoz|pg||
nt|yakop: bu bordda da cok kariþtik 3 nt oynamazlar artik|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: anadolunun bazý yörelerinde üçüncü pozisyonda pas geçene kýz vermezlermiþ|pg||
mb|p|nt|pitiful: crikey, we are poles apart, I think 4@d might be underbid|pg||
mb|p|pc|d9|pc|d5|nt|talion: kiema has nice values i think. 5 card support, side ace, well placed K and Jx, in partners suit|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 3NT is not as good as 5@D, but their auction certainly makes some sense|pg||
nt|Walddk2: They chose 4@H in the open room!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: That did not cross my mind|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Nor mine|pg||
nt|bjacobs: But it's an interesting contract as well|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|bjacobs: But not a great one|pg||
nt|yusufb: bu elle 3den yada 5den acýsýn yararýna inanmýyorum ama herkesin dogrusu farklý tabii|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s7|nt|yakop: 2 cl acana negatif yapacak elle oyun mu acilir paþam|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s2|pg||
nt|bjacobs: The problem with 4@H is that club plays by the defence will destroy you|pg||
nt|pitiful: what would you do as east Roland?|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3SQ853HQ9854DQ42C2,SA764HKJ6D98CT754,SJ9HATDAKJ3CAKJ86,SKT2H732DT765CQ93|sv|e|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|irka: 3nt here|pg||
mb|3D|nt|vdoubleu: Yes.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|vdoubleu: But can it make?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|irka: wow, board 7 they get to 4 h well done|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: If Drew finesses clubs...|pg||
pc|d5|nt|irka: need to play club right|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: I am betting against:)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|s4|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|h5|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|h8|pc|c7|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: He had no reason to play the clubs without finessing.|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|s3|nt|vdoubleu: He gave himself extra chances by paying the hearts first.|pg||
nt|irka: it is not easy to put all this score, so board number 7 disapear|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hJ|nt|irka: val you right it should be 4 h down 1, not 4 sp down1|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SQ853HQ9854DQ42C2,SA764HKJ6D98CT754,SJ9HATDAKJ3CAKJ86,SKT2H732DT765CQ93|sv|e|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|hedyg: strange no score from CR for bd 8|pg||
nt|atalok: 2sp de guzel durmuslar|pg||
mb|p|nt|jan_jansma: Czech is actually LEADING group A (together with Finland)|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|vahaboglu: dbl a güneyin 2 @s i iyi|pg||
mb|p|nt|vahaboglu: @h ler olduðu için pass dedi herhalde|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|yusufb: 3@s güney|pg||
pc|d5|nt|Walddk2: Now we can discuss the merit of opening a weak 2 with seven cards. Any views, panel?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Good bid|pg||
pc|d2|nt|vahaboglu: en az 1 çeri|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dA|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Kamikaze to open 3@S|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Milquetoast to pass|pg||
nt|pitiful: i agree with 2@s in this seat at this vul|pg||
nt|idc: in 2nd seat and vul, 2@s fine|pg||
pc|hA|nt|talion: in vulnerable yes|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: öyle olursa egale gider|pg||
nt|yusufb: 1 le kurtarýrsa iyi|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|nt|Walddk2: You should all have been playing|pg||
nt|idc: of course - BBO doesn't select any other kind of commentator surely?  ;)|pg||
nt|pitiful: i know you hate 7 card weak 2's Roland?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Declarer must not be seduced by the good @CK - he needs to take the heart finesse at some point|pg||
nt|Walddk2: True Peter, but I'd open 2@S anyway and tell partner that I miscounted|pg||
nt|pitiful: perhaps you are better off sticking to Acol 2's or dare I say Flan....|pg||
nt|bjacobs: No more comments from pitiful - suddenly he's gagged|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|hQ|nt|Walddk2: It takes me about one tenth of a second to gag the whole world :)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Power goes to his head!|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|idc: There is a price for the power though - I wonder if Roland gets any sleep at all during big tourneys like this :)|pg||
nt|pitiful: K@s hoping for stiff Queen|pg||
pc|d8|nt|yusufb: 2@s pas pasa zafer 2nt dese yanda @d mi anlasýlýr naturelmi|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: @d|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|sK|nt|vahaboglu: anlardým|pg||
pc|s3|nt|bjacobs: Declarer covers to avoid the heart coming through, but it's coming through on the next round, and ....|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SA973HT74DK863CQ6,SJ842HQJ62DQTCK74,SKQTHAK95DAJCAJT2,S65H83D97542C9853|sv|b|mb|p|nt|vdoubleu: North is really a card rack today!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|vdoubleu: 2@c opener.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: or 2NT|pg||
nt|Vugraphu4: casen says he'll try 2NT again since it worked so well last time|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vdoubleu: Board 7 has been revised (again) to read 4@h/making, in ther CR.|pg||
mb|p|nt|vdoubleu: This will not be a challenge.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Can they make 6?|pg||
nt|irka: 6 very possible|pg||
nt|irka: dia lead probably|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: I think so, if they could see through the cards, but not enough entries to the Douth hand.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: *South*|pg||
nt|Vugraphu4: the screen just broke|pg||
nt|irka: need only one to hook a club|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|d2|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cQ|nt|vdoubleu: I still see only 11 tricks here.|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Assuming West exits with a black card.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg||
nt|irka: now 12 if he duck|pg||
mc|12|nt|vdoubleu: http://usbf.org/|pg||
nt|Vugraphu4: talking a short break|pg||
nt|Vugraphu4: and we're back|pg||
pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SA973HT74DK863CQ6,SJ842HQJ62DQTCK74,SKQTHAK95DAJCAJT2,S65H83D97542C9853|sv|b|nt|hedyg: passed Italy?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Our sympathies ... but 6 away|pg||
mb|p|nt|pitiful: 4@s on here|pg||
mb|p|nt|jan_jansma: yes|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: doðu batýnýn 26 puaný var ama hangi zonu yapabiliyorlar?|pg||
mb|2C|nt|MolvaM: bu el kötü|pg||
mb|p|nt|jan_jansma: 4@S, 5+mi|pg||
nt|hedyg: by 1 VP:)|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: 4@S 5@D is what EAST has as well....|pg||
nt|hedyg: cute|pg||
nt|MolvaM: ama egale edebiliriz|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|hedyg: merci|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: 1NT sürkonturlu|pg||
nt|pikonlu: 2 batmasi gerekiyor, salvo yapmak icin oynadi|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|hedyg: il manque un passe|pg||
nt|idc: that might stop West finding 4@s|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: Serge?|pg||
nt|hedyg: 4@h par W?|pg||
nt|pitiful: i find wests pass of 3NT strange|pg||
mb|3C|an|alert|nt|MolvaM: diðer masada assaelin TD çaðýrdýðý söyleniyor|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: nice 9@H:)|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: yes|pg||
nt|hedyg: i love spotcards!|pg||
nt|richie: that sounds a bit desperate|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol not at all|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Well he gets most of his game value against 3NT :)|pg||
mb|3D|an|alert|nt|hedyg: 2@d X by N in the CR|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: yani belki -500 skoru deðiþebilir|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|hedyg: that wont be a success|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: 3NT is of course a very good bid ... throws sand in the eyes|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Versace is like a big bully|pg||
mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d3|nt|bjacobs: "You think you can make something?  Well I think I can make 3NT"|pg||
nt|pitiful: assuming west knows of 4 card support then 4@s looks percentage to me|pg||
nt|talion: yes, 3NT is sometimes scary bid to opponents :)|pg||
nt|pitiful: 3NT might easily be making if 3@s is going down|pg||
nt|pitiful: 4@s|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|idc: the 4th spade is vital - why distinguishing between 3 & 4 card raises often key|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|hedyg: he has no entry to the S hand at all|pg||
nt|MolvaM: becerebilirse 1 batar|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|dT|nt|jan_jansma: NS are playing 2@DX in the oher room|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|richie: even if 4@h makes, it may not be enough to compensate for the downtricks in 2@d|pg||
pc|d2|nt|pitiful: but maybe i bid too much on these type of hands|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c6|nt|hedyg: N feeling endplayed|pg||
nt|richie: why would you need an entry? |pg||
nt|hedyg: playing in 2@d?|pg||
nt|hedyg: for a @s finesse?|pg||
nt|richie: east has too many spades,so will be endplayed at one moment or another|pg||
nt|hedyg: aie 1100|pg||
nt|hedyg: 10 imps|pg||
nt|hedyg: aie= i cannot stand the sight of blood|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: son @h e A çakar|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|h4|pc|c7|pg||
nt|yakop: ayni senaryo olur|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: @s Q10 Batýda varsayarsa 2 batar|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|h7|nt|bjacobs: South psyched 3NT in the other room as well ... but he got lucky - he got doubled there|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
nt|pikonlu: simdi dekleran yapmayami 1 batmayami oynayacak gorecegiz|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: veya empas atmaya kalkarsa|pg||
nt|pikonlu: as cakip pik pasi atarsa 2 batar|pg||
pc|sK|nt|bjacobs: So he could remove to 4@D, and E/W were still frightened off from 4@S|pg||
pc|s6|nt|talion: versace is realy hoping now that 4@s makes and teammates bid it|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Fascinating parry and thrust in the bidding there|pg||
pc|s7|nt|yakop: ama tez in butun puaný sayýldý artýk olmaz|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: undo|pg||
nt|pikonlu: undo|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|sT|pc|d7|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|dK|mc|10|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1S83H87DK987652CQ6,SKQ6HJ54DQ4CAT543,SJ97HKT92DA3CJ872,SAT542HAQ63DJTCK9|sv|o|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|d|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|irka: board 8 show again that better not open 3rd hand 1h with 3 4 3 3|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Yes|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|irka: have to guess to play on clubs or ruff 4 heart|pg||
nt|Vugraphu4: mel asking drew a coupe questions|pg||
nt|irka: but contract is safe|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d2|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|d9|pc|s6|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Whose play is it?:)|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Or did he claim?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu4: wests|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: oops|pg||
nt|irka: ohh|pg||
pc|d7|pc|c5|mc|9|nt|vdoubleu: That would not be the recommended line of play.|pg||
pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1S83H87DK987652CQ6,SKQ6HJ54DQ4CAT543,SJ97HKT92DA3CJ872,SAT542HAQ63DJTCK9|sv|o|mb|p|nt|vahaboglu: gene 4441, 11 puan|pg||
mb|1C|nt|hedyg: ok the bidding in the CR wasnt as seen for bd 10|pg||
nt|richie: west was too fast too furious to bid 4@h, otherwise it would have been a dull flat board in 2@dX-4|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: impossible!|pg||
nt|pitiful: well it makes, bidding it is the problem|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|jan_jansma: 2@D now?|pg||
nt|idc: that's a handy treatment on the SOuth hand - though perhaps Lauria isn't thinking that!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Is 2NT alertable if it's natural?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Apparently you have to Alert a natural 2NT these days!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: What is the world coming to?|pg||
nt|pitiful: east is about to bid 3NT is suspect although his hand is not great for NT despite 17 points|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Maybe it's easier to alert all natural bids|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: I write on the bids that are explained at the table|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Grazie Fabio|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Fabio is a great operator!|pg||
nt|idc: thx operator - and very useful to us it is too|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: west is not sure of meaning of 2Nt|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: but east has explained as natural bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|jan_jansma: 1@D usually 5|pg||
mb|4S|nt|vahaboglu: dün konuþmuþtuk, Nafiz abiyle, bu ellerde rebid problemi oluyor diye|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|nt|Walddk2: Fabio Lo Presti is a former junior World Champion and therefore a world class player in his own right|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|nt|vugraphecc: :) ty Roland|pg||
nt|bjacobs: In theory, that 2@C bid gives the show away, and declarer can find a miraculous series of plays to make this|pg||
nt|idc: contract makeable but only double dummy I expect|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: a helpfull switch|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: @D swicht looks more threatening|pg||
nt|richie: and a helpful duck in @s by west IMHO|pg||
nt|hedyg: very generous|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|nt|vugraphecc: Dealer know about all hands now|pg||
pc|s4|nt|idc: mind you, the bidding here has been very revealing|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: know 5/5 in versace's hand|pg||
nt|idc: yes|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I don't think it's that double dummy any more, Ian|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|nt|jan_jansma: looks like 90|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Maybe N/S will give up this method after this deal?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I have a partner who reacts like that ... one bad result for a gadget, and it's crossed off the list|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: he hasn't no communication to play KQ@h in south...|pg||
nt|talion: kiema knows the whole distribution now after versace has shown up with 2 spades & one diamond|pg||
nt|idc: I'm guessing after 3 months you were down natural, no conventions at all Bill?  :)|pg||
nt|pitiful: i like 2@c as @h and another, 2@d as @h and 2@h as @s raise|pg||
nt|bjacobs: "and loving it" (as Max Smart would say)|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg||
nt|hedyg: Italy first again with Finland|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Trouble was - he'd keep adding new conventions|pg||
pc|hA|pc|d2|pc|h5|nt|jan_jansma: EW might make 3@D tricks|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|richie: they always do, even if brink had played @d now, east can take the ace and return @s|pg||
nt|bjacobs: To replace the old failing ones|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d5|pc|c3|pc|hK|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c6|mc|11|pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2SAK9754HDA75C7543,S3HQT652DKJ8CAKQT,ST6HAJ973DQ63C862,SQJ82HK84DT942CJ9|sv|n|nt|irka: if trump 4 1, he cannot make|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|vdoubleu: He was playing, based on the bidding, for a trump coup.|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
nt|irka: other room was no dia preem, so declarer cannot go wrong|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|d9|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h9|pc|dT|pc|c5|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Yes.|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|h2|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|h4|pc|d7|pg||
mc|8|nt|vdoubleu: Enplayed, for -1|pg||
pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SAK9754HDA75C7543,S3HQT652DKJ8CAKQT,ST6HAJ973DQ63C862,SQJ82HK84DT942CJ9|sv|n|nt|pitiful: well done|pg||
nt|idc: His worry was messing up communications between hands, but he managed it, well done|pg||
nt|pitiful: this looks like a coffee hand|pg||
mb|1H|nt|pitiful: note no advertising there|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hüseyin hemen bir kehanet rica edelim|pg||
nt|yusufb: S 3@s demese zon gitmisti|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|idc: please, a Lavazza hand|pg||
nt|pikonlu: 7@H bir iceri|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: 6@h tam|pg||
nt|pikonlu: ben artik kolyca 6 denir demiyecegim|pg||
nt|MolvaM: o kehanet deðil temenni.  sayýlmaz|pg||
mb|2S|nt|vahaboglu: Tez Asýný alýr|pg||
mb|3C|nt|idc: lol|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: asý yanlýþ verirse|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: I don't know, the Tea companies might have your hide\|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|pitiful: i don't like tea, heresy for an englishman I know|pg||
mb|p|nt|idc: on 3rd Espresso now, Roland usually has to gag me soon after caffeine level this high|pg||
mb|p|pc|sT|nt|bjacobs: What, you go ballistic?|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 10. bordda Assaelin itirazýnýn sonucu bize ulaþmadý maalesef|pg||
nt|pikonlu: 4@H obur masada batmak uzere :) mujdeli haber benden|pg||
nt|yakop: battýýýýýýýýýýýýý|pg||
pc|d5|nt|yakop: icerde 4 h batiyo|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: az batmaya mý kaldý|pg||
nt|yusufb: garodannnn:)|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: oley|pg||
nt|pikonlu: benim ekranda once ben yazdim|pg||
nt|pikonlu: :)|pg||
pc|dK|nt|jan_jansma: 2@S at least 500|pg||
pc|d3|nt|jan_jansma: 3@D might go down|pg||
nt|hedyg: why 3@D?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: It's a little unusual to lead 3/5 against NT too, but this Finnish pair does|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Most who play 3/5 leads switch to 4th against NT|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Not so in Finland I am told|pg||
nt|idc: Been so long since I played them - Vinje style leads are 4th & 6th v NT?|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And Helgemo-Helness also lead 3rd and 5th throughout|pg||
nt|Walddk2: running scores: http://tinyurl.com/5tung5|pg||
pc|cT|nt|yakop: ibrahimov|pg||
pc|c2|nt|yakop: kendi kalesine atti bi tane|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|h2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|richie: I don´t understand 3@d either, pass or 2nt is a better guess, dbl usually shows 4@h length in @c and some @d|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: West passed 2@S doubled in the other room|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@s X in CR|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|nt|jan_jansma: this will make now|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: if he finesses in @C|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: NOW|pg||
pc|d4|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d9|nt|hedyg: and disc 1@c on @H and ruff @c|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|sA|nt|richie: yes @c to Q, @cA, @hK and @h ruff, then you make @dT when playing a @s|pg||
pc|hT|nt|richie: yes safer to ruff a @c|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|hedyg: unbelievable|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3SA52HK72DAQ85CA63,S874HA9863DJ32CT2,SKT6HJ4DT974CK854,SQJ93HQT5DK6CQJ97|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|mc|8|pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3SA52HK72DAQ85CA63,S874HA9863DJ32CT2,SKT6HJ4DT974CK854,SQJ93HQT5DK6CQJ97|sv|b|nt|richie: drijver never pictured @d to be 333 :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I think everyone has some good reason to lead this or that. There is no right answer. Lead what you you are comfortable with as long as you and your partner are on the same ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: wavelength|pg||
nt|MolvaM: salvoya 2 pik deklerasi pikte puan diye alert edilmiþ kör de yok, eðer bana böyle alert edilmeseydi 1 batarýna oynayabilirdim demiþ olmalý|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: never thought that would make|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Looks like another coffee, tea or milo hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: belki TD skoru deðiþtirir ise 10. borddan 7 imp alabiliriz|pg||
mb|1N|nt|hedyg: he is right:)|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: 500 den de ekmek çýkarmaya uðraþýyoruz yani|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: ama maç sonunu beklememiz gerek|pg||
nt|MolvaM: evet|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: I'm drowning|pg||
nt|pitiful: 4@s on for n-s|pg||
nt|pikonlu: TD skor gecerli demis|pg||
mb|p|nt|pitiful: 5@c save for e-w|pg||
pc|h6|nt|jan_jansma: @HJ lead?|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok with me|pg||
nt|pitiful: i suppose on a @d lead, 4@s might be tricky|pg||
nt|yusufb: parayý yakmasýnlarda:)|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|hedyg: surely not @c |pg||
nt|jan_jansma: yes|pg||
nt|hedyg: nor @d nor A@s:)|pg||
nt|richie: only the czechs would disagree with a @h lead since it is the killing lead|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: was the @H lead nec.?|pg||
nt|richie: @sA is also down|pg||
nt|hedyg: he can duck this|pg||
nt|richie: yes other leads are giving the contract|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|richie: North just has to wait for his @c trick|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: 60 €|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|idc: I'd prefer some fit-bid interpretation for 2@c as passed hand there|pg||
nt|pikonlu: trefli bilirse 12 love alabilir|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: az deðil|pg||
pc|c6|nt|idc: or lead directing perhaps|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
nt|richie: he doesn´t have to wait very long|pg||
nt|pitiful: how would you play 4@s on a @d lead?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Good question|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4ST42HQ86D974CAT93,SJ63HAK93DKQ5CJ85,SQ8HJT52DJ8632CK7,SAK975H74DATCQ642|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|vdoubleu: We have 2 more boards here before we have a short break 'til play resumes.|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c9|nt|vdoubleu: Rusinow lead.|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|nt|vdoubleu: Good duck by North.|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Does not matter on this particular hand, with the spades sitting well for declarer.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: But he still  has to guess here.|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg||
nt|irka: safe play in case sp 4 1|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h4|nt|vdoubleu: He decided to safety the spades.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: :)|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|c4|pc|d9|pg||
nt|irka: 4 sp 2 h 3 dia 1 cl claim 10 tricks|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4ST42HQ86D974CAT93,SJ63HAK93DKQ5CJ85,SQ8HJT52DJ8632CK7,SAK975H74DATCQ642|sv|o|nt|bjacobs: It wasn't a coffee hand after all - despite the flat result|pg||
nt|yusufb: slmmm nafiz abi|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: hoþgeldin |pg||
nt|yakop: slm sefim|pg||
mb|1S|nt|Walddk2: 4 of either major, take your pick|pg||
mb|p|nt|pitiful: Garozzo would lead his singleton @d|pg||
nt|begse: herkese slm seyredenlere özellikle|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|idc: anyone for 3@c opening on East hand?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: This is indeed a Zero hand (I don't drink coffee)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Even switching to it would have created some problem, although the @CA lead does perform a scissor coup for declarer|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: so much for 3NT......|pg||
nt|richie: another big hand for NS (remember the 1st board?) but slam is far away|pg||
nt|pitiful: would anybody consider opening 3@c|pg||
nt|Walddk2: yes|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 2pik?  minörler?|pg||
mb|3S|nt|idc: I have very low standards for non-vul preempts...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I would not consider for long and bid it|pg||
nt|pitiful: so would I |pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 3 cards in the majors, pre-empt!|pg||
mb|4S|nt|hedyg: oh my, will S not think this is with fit in @d?|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: Brink always very agressive|pg||
nt|pitiful: however I wouldn't consider very long|pg||
nt|talion: kiema is tight player :)|pg||
nt|idc: Thx again to Fabio, our operator, these comments are great|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Who is the "I" in that commnent - Fabio or Lauria?|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: I know something of Versace Lauria treatment.... If i can help you...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: It's a bonus to have an operator who is not only a good player but also knows the system|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jan_jansma: Can he stop himself:)?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: It seems hard to imagine a WORSE hand for North|pg||
mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|vahaboglu: davet eli veya @c ler oynayan da var|pg||
nt|begse: durumumuz iyimi sýralamada|pg||
pc|c7|nt|jan_jansma: he can|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: well done|pg||
nt|hedyg: hasnt made this yet|pg||
nt|idc: I've often wished I  could exchange my partner for the Vugraph operator|pg||
nt|pitiful: now all we need is a similar organiser|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Thanks Peter|pg||
nt|atalok: 2 nt ya trsfer simdi 5 5 minor zayýf|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 2s sonra 3c  minörler zayýf|pg||
nt|pikonlu: running skorlara gore 8.ligi hirvatlarla paylasiyoruz|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I sensed the irony :)|pg||
nt|idc: NS have managed to find the major that splits 3-2 instead of the 4-1 one|pg||
nt|bjacobs: This is an important area of partnership agreement ... when an opponent doubles a cue bid, what is the status of Pass?  or an immediate return to your suit?|pg||
pc|c9|nt|hedyg: good lead|pg||
nt|richie: very good lead|pg||
nt|hedyg: W must get rid of the Q@H still to best it|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: VERY good :)|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cK|nt|bjacobs: or a redouble?|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|hedyg: beat it*|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|nt|begse: 9 a gireriz ama sonra iyi oynamak lazým|pg||
nt|pikonlu: bir onceki board 660 olarak gormemize ragmen, gercekte 690 |pg||
pc|d7|nt|vahaboglu: düzeltilmiþ|pg||
nt|pikonlu: ebl sitesindeki skor kartinda 690 gozukuyor|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|richie: this is 1 down now, but west has to pay attention, brink can draw 4x trumps and play @hA and small @h, so west should discard @hQ at one moment|pg||
pc|s6|nt|MolvaM: hedefimiz cumartesi günü ilk 9 takýma girmek|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|nt|hedyg: or play it on A@H|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: but surely he will play AK and a small one|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|11|nt|atalok: aksam kimle mac?|pg||
pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1S54H654DT7CQJ8653,SKQJ87HAKT7DKC974,ST9632HQ9DQJ652CT,SAHJ832DA9843CAK2|sv|n|nt|irka: now interesting board|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|vdoubleu: There was still a certain amount of risk to that play, in case South had made a short-suit lead (in clubs) & the defense coukld rattle off 4 more club tricks.|pg||
nt|irka: 6 h, or 7 |pg||
nt|vdoubleu: 7?|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Off trump Q?|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Think not.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|vdoubleu: That is why we have that marvelous invention: key card:)|pg||
nt|irka: they will bid 6 but can make 7|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Yes, but they will not (make 7).|pg||
nt|irka: with 32 points on the line want to bid a lot|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|vdoubleu: Of course, especially since they suspect they are down in this match.|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|nt|irka: this time west will be declarer!|pg||
mb|5H|nt|vdoubleu: Better omen:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Still, declarer has to exercise some care here.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hT|nt|irka: now he has to play heart from the top, to avoid a club ruff|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|hJ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hA|mc|12|nt|vdoubleu: Thanks all|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: We will be back soon.|pg||
nt|irka: thx:)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu4: break now.  see you all soon|pg||
pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1S54H654DT7CQJ8653,SKQJ87HAKT7DKC974,ST9632HQ9DQJ652CT,SAHJ832DA9843CAK2|sv|n|nt|bjacobs: See the thread?|pg||
nt|atalok: yasak koymuslar giremiyorum siteye molva|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: :)|pg||
nt|yakop: 13 nolu el baya kariþti içerde inþallah ii biter|pg||
mb|1S|nt|hedyg: 4@H -2 in OR|pg||
nt|josj: pretty high...|pg||
nt|yakop: þu anda 4 h deler|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: hi Jos:) welcome!|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: Hýrvatlar mý karýþtýrdý|pg||
mb|2D|nt|idc: good spot - no trump lead when bidding makes it a possible one means missing honour more likely with leader|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Norberto Bocchi, sitting out in this match|pg||
nt|Walddk2: ciao Norby|pg||
nt|yakop: y|pg||
mb|p|nt|josj: hi Hedy, hi Jan and Richie|pg||
mb|2H|nt|richie: hi Jos, welcome|pg||
nt|pitiful: it would be nice for east if he could get his @c into the game|pg||
nt|norby: hi all friends|pg||
nt|pitiful: hi|pg||
nt|begse: erdi bubadaaa alýþtý hani programlý bi yere gidince bilmemkim bey hoþgeldiniz derler ya özel selam bekliyo|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: haydi hayýrlýsý|pg||
nt|begse: bubaaa büyüksünnn|pg||
mb|p|nt|yakop: 4 hde kaldilar 1 2 imp aliriz|pg||
mb|3C|an|alert|nt|jan_jansma: hi|pg||
nt|hedyg: hard to stop|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: yaparlarsa tabii|pg||
mb|p|nt|yakop: deminki abi oynuyo umut var:)|pg||
mb|3N|nt|talion: hi|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|nt|josj: q.e.d.|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: 4@h e batan abi deðil mi|pg||
nt|MolvaM: garo iþi gücü býraktý adama negatif enerji gönderiyor|pg||
mb|p|nt|jan_jansma: All the Americans here will think this is an AUTOMATIC 1@H overcall|pg||
nt|josj: so will all rubber bridge  players|pg||
nt|hedyg: but these are the European Championships:)|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: (OK so would I :) )|pg||
nt|richie: yes for me too 1@h is normal|pg||
nt|hedyg: would still get to game if he bid 1@H|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: I try to DEFND them :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: Brink wouldnt pass|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: They probably overcall light so all 17+ hands start with X|pg||
mb|4N|nt|vugraphecc: buongiorno|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: :)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: low club switch?  (hoping for KJ10x with East)|pg||
mb|p|mb|5S|nt|idc: I'm beginning to think we could all go for cigarette/coffee and leave Fabio to run the show :)|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: pek sorun yok gibi|pg||
nt|yakop: trefi bilemezse by byy|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: tam veya +1 olur|pg||
nt|begse: wojela býrak kýzým fransýzcayý türkçeye bak|pg||
mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vahaboglu: @c i bildi mi Garo|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: its says: very agressive on 1 level, normal on 2 level|pg||
pc|d5|nt|bjacobs: Oh boy thinks West, it's all happening!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: But then he sees declarer's 10 ...|pg||
pc|d8|nt|Walddk2: Alas, East has one club too many|pg||
pc|dT|nt|yakop: bildi ama hala becerecek gibi bakýyo:)|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|hedyg: so X and 2@H is justified|pg||
nt|richie: again a 3 imps gain for the dutch on a defeated game|pg||
nt|hedyg: now playing quickly|pg||
nt|hedyg: Serge? tu est la?|pg||
nt|jan_jansma: en SASKIA?|pg||
nt|richie: :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: i bet he played A@H, @d ruffed and @s ducked|pg||
nt|richie: I am not going to bet with you|pg||
nt|hedyg: LOL|pg||
nt|hedyg: chicken|pg||
nt|richie: :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: but we shall never know:(|pg||
nt|hedyg: they must be claiming by now|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|nt|yakop: umutluyum o abiden|pg||
pc|h2|nt|vahaboglu: uzaktan naklen yayýnýn da bu kadarýný duymadýk|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|yakop: az kaldi batti batacak|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: batsa da kurtulsak|pg||
nt|yakop: defans iyi olursa batttý artýk|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|nt|hedyg: if W plays another @D or @s he has made it then|pg||
pc|sA|mc|12|pg||
