vg|2008 USSBC - QF - 4v5,Segment 3 of 4,I,31,45,ONSTOTT,49,DEMARTINO,43|
rs|3SS+1,4HW=,3NN+1,3NN+1,6HE=,2DNx-3,1NW+1,1NW+1,3NE+1,3NE+2,3DN-1,2DN=,4SN=,4SN=,3NS-2,2HE=,6NE+1,7NE=,4SW-1,5DSx-1,3HN=,3HN=,4HE=,4HE=,3NW=,2DNx-2,4SE=,4HE+1,3NW=,3NW=|
pn|onstott,DeMartino,casen,Colchamiro,EARL,WOLFF,BROD,MORSE|pg||
qx|o31|st||md|1SQ97642H85DACJ632,SJ5HQ7643DJ543C87,SKT8HK9DQ76CAT954,SA3HAJT2DKT982CKQ|sv|n|nt|figb_rama: buongiorno a tutti|pg||
nt|figb_rama: incontri di vertice tra la prima e la seconda del girone A|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|figb_rama: la Finlandia è infatti al momento sorprendentemente seconda a -3 da noi|pg||
nt|caruga: buongiorno a tutti|pg||
mb|2N|nt|figb_rama: le prima 6 del nostro girone sono in una manciata di VP|pg||
nt|vugraphec3: buongiorno fabio|pg||
nt|caruga: ciao :)|pg||
mb|d|nt|chmitty: Bonsoir à tous :)|pg||
mb|3D|nt|rialc2: Buongiorno a tutti. Ben trovati. Forza azzurri!|pg||
mb|p|nt|caruga: questa coppia finlandese gioca quadri forte e aperture in un nobile 8/11|pg||
nt|minnie lee: Buon giorno a tutti:)|pg||
nt|cumino: Ciao a tutti|pg||
nt|figb_rama: ITA 115, FIN 112, OLA 11, CEC 108, ISR 105, ISL 104|pg||
nt|figb_rama: la settima è più staccata DAN 92|pg||
mb|3S|nt|figb_rama: sull'incontro di ieri vs ISR pende una decisione arbitrale che potrebbe spostare una decina di imps per noi|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|copeyj: Good afternoon all|pg||
mb|p|nt|uppino: ciao a tutti|pg||
nt|rialc2: Una decina a nostro favore?|pg||
pc|c8|nt|Walddk2: Good afternoon everyone and welcome back to Pau|pg||
mc|10|nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers!|pg||
nt|ritong: bonsoir pierre, bonsoir a tous|pg||
nt|chmitty: salut Henri|pg||
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qx|c31|st||md|1SQ97642H85DACJ632,SJ5HQ7643DJ543C87,SKT8HK9DQ76CAT954,SA3HAJT2DKT982CKQ|sv|n|nt|vugraphec1: hi all enjoy to see you to this 7 round|pg||
nt|sybarra: hello all |pg||
nt|vlad9: hello everyone  welcome to this exciting match|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: just have E bid 3 nt operator |pg||
nt|jaapfr: suppose 1@H-1@S-1nt etc 3nt|pg||
nt|sybarra: easiest operator to have E bid 3 nt,  all pass |pg||
nt|sybarra: get lead,  and then claim as appropriate |pg||
nt|jaapfr: 3nt+2 to be expected|pg||
nt|jaapfr: operateur vous parlez seulement de Francais?|pg||
nt|sybarra: will need 3 nt bid by east   (all pass) thn opening lead,  and can claim number of tricks |pg||
mb|4H|nt|sybarra: welcome back to Pau |pg||
nt|jaapfr: hoi all and shirley:)|pg||
nt|sybarra: I suspect it is played by E |pg||
nt|vlad9: Ireland the raigning silver medalist from last  EU championship|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: hoi Jaap |pg||
nt|jaapfr: the name of the S player is Vroustis i hear|pg||
mb|p|nt|moen: Theese 2 teams are currently Greece 7th and Monaco )th place|pg||
nt|baldjean: the CC for the Monaco pair seems not to be posted; no Vincetelli listed for me|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: other room in the "doomed" slam as Jaap mentioned |pg||
pc|cA|nt|baldjean: hello all. let's hope we will see a good match|pg||
nt|jaapfr: start with a doomed slam?|pg||
nt|sybarra: hello again Jeanine :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: hoi janine|pg||
nt|moen: Good afternoon all|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|xenya: hello everyone|pg||
nt|mariner1: hi Vlad|pg||
nt|xenya: hello Rob|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: hi rob vlad :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: monaco 9th|pg||
nt|moen: monaco 9th place|pg||
pc|c2|nt|sybarra: hello Fred, welcome |pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|jaapfr: hoi fred|pg||
nt|moen: tu|pg||
pc|s8|nt|mariner1: 3N showing both majors here I think|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|xenya: salut Dan|pg||
nt|mariner1: Hi Dan|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes and 4@c for @h|pg||
nt|mariner1: NS play a form of puppet|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: stayman only |pg||
nt|sybarra: think we missed some passes |pg||
nt|jaapfr: 3NT played by E|pg||
nt|vlad9: Bulgaria  is 4th in group B  at the moment but the points margin betwwen both teams at this event  is small|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|cK|nt|xenya: very tempting to try for slam with the N hand|pg||
nt|mariner1: getting too high I think as a lot is off|pg||
nt|xenya: the layout however is as unfriendly as it can be|pg||
nt|mariner1: both black K's off..... has to guess Q@h and Q@d is off|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes but danger now|pg||
nt|h_karluk: 3N assures both M 4/4|pg||
nt|mariner1: N hoping S has magic 21 and he has medocre 19|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: JC Quantin is thinking ... K of @d is a good card now |pg||
nt|vlad9: so both teams are in contention for the top 9 places giving the right to continue in the second phase of the tournament|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|nt|vlad9: isporski kovachev play precision|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|s3|nt|mariner1: well they stopped yet too high|pg||
nt|xenya: good stop -- but already too hogh i'm afraid|pg||
nt|xenya: *high|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes maybe he can win anyway |pg||
nt|xenya: maybe|pg||
nt|vlad9: 2cl  =  art   FG  relay   and all athor bids reveal openers shape|pg||
nt|vlad9: other sry|pg||
nt|thegarve: afternoon all|pg||
nt|thegarve: hi vlad|pg||
nt|vlad9: hello  martin|pg||
pc|s6|nt|mariner1: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/08Pau/Information.htm  -  Tournament site|pg||
nt|h_karluk: I see 2 K and 2 Q missing on NS collections. Anyway nice stop.|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: can discard teh @c on J @s lose 1@d and 1 @s but can play different|pg||
nt|vlad9: good to receive some help -  thought I was alone:)|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
nt|thegarve: Hanlon McGann have been playing for two decades, nearly always a Carotti club system |pg||
pc|sT|nt|xenya: first of all, declarer will need to find the @H Queen...|pg||
nt|mariner1: also has to find Q@h|pg||
nt|mariner1: guess he virtually has to play W for it as transportation is an issue|pg||
pc|d8|pc|s4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|mariner1: Russia is 3rd and France 10th after 6 sessions i B group ,,,,, this is  7 session - 19 teams in group B|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch many vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't, ...|pg||
nt|mariner1: Open one browser window per table|pg||
nt|h_karluk: forced to ruff partner's winner, plans to park possible @c loser to established dias when there were not trump problem. To concede a @s not hurts.|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: Jc is thinking a lot different line now|pg||
nt|mariner1: if he plays AK@h ending in dummy and leads a @s........ |pg||
nt|mariner1: very double dummy play though|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: he will guess the trump position i think|pg||
nt|xenya: would be quite an achievement i think|pg||
nt|mariner1: true however is possible|pg||
pc|hK|nt|thegarve: 1@c = 10-12 balanced on 16+|pg||
pc|hA|nt|xenya: yes, but very complicated, all that|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|mariner1: ohy well|pg||
nt|xenya: now W needs to exit with a club or trump|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h2|nt|xenya: not too difficult as S S is known to have 4 spades|pg||
nt|vlad9: easy  3nt for s here  -the main threat was no to get  too high |pg||
pc|s2|pc|h6|nt|h_karluk: another winning line at start might be abandon @d play - pick a straightforward line. Stay at table and try a @s finesse.  If all else fails still distance to control possible @c ...|pg||
nt|h_karluk: loser at table.|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Hi all|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|vdoubleu: We will get names up ASAP|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Hi to Glenn Eisenstein:)|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: http://www.usbf.org/|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: sorry...some technical glitches|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|mc|10|pg||
qx|o32|st||md|2SAK54HQ87D962CQT7,S82HKJ543D83CK642,SJTHATDKJT754CAJ5,SQ9763H962DAQC983|sv|e|nt|rialc2: Peccato|pg||
nt|minnie lee: si vede che non a ha "letto" @s 8 come single|pg||
nt|brolucius: On the face of it, Bocchi declined to cue-bid in clubs because of his awful trumps - but maybe the auction was artificial.|pg||
nt|copeyj: Not very typically Spanish looking surnames here :)|pg||
nt|chmitty: 4@s banal en Sud|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: qu'on n'arrêtera pas facilement avant la manche|pg||
mb|1N|nt|copeyj: close 3NT for e/w here... *cold* as the cards lie|pg||
nt|ritong: un joli 4@s, pas facile apres l ouverture de 1SA, mais EW pratiquent le SA faible non vunérable|pg||
mb|p|nt|copeyj: 1@H=4+@S|pg||
mb|2C|nt|rialc2: noi tutti confidiamo che angelini non entri con le @H .....|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Hearts is the weak suit, but South will not be able to lead them.|pg||
nt|mgchat: doivent pas jouer le michael (lol)|pg||
nt|chmitty: 2@d bicolore @s + @c |pg||
mb|2D|nt|copeyj: well he is able to lead them David. That would not be a testing defence for declarer though :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|mgchat: ci Pierre|pg||
mb|3N|nt|copeyj: Spain stopped in 2N in the other room|pg||
nt|royhughes: I wonder if 3@d is forcing or invitational|pg||
mb|p|nt|copeyj: canape invitational|pg||
nt|brolucius: Some players rebid 1@S instead of 1NT when they hold four spades (for example, the French). If that style is being played, West does not need to introduce spades from his hand.|pg||
nt|reisig: now we know :)|pg||
nt|ritong: oula|pg||
nt|chmitty: 3 atouts, un doubleton, 2 rois, ça vaut 4 non ?|pg||
nt|mgchat: un coup de 12 pour nous ?|pg||
nt|ritong: nord a trouvé que son @d roi etait vilain, sans doute|pg||
nt|mgchat: bon que 10 !|pg||
mb|p|nt|royhughes: yes, it has become clear|pg||
nt|ritong: oui, 12 c est quand la manche vulnérable chute d une d un coté et gagne de l autre|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: Io, che non capisco granchè, avrei dichiarato 2@S con le carte di Sud...|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|nt|septiembre: hello everyone|pg||
pc|s2|nt|royhughes: 3NT would have been a fair contract|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
mc|10|nt|brolucius: Sorry, of course West has already bid his spades first (via the 1@H transfer).|pg||
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qx|c32|st||md|2SAK54HQ87D962CQT7,S82HKJ543D83CK642,SJTHATDKJT754CAJ5,SQ9763H962DAQC983|sv|e|nt|xenya: so first blood to Russia, who judged very well to stop in 4 in the CR|pg||
nt|vlad9: first imps to Ireland - seams they made too many tricks in the other room|pg||
mb|p|nt|h_karluk: Seems no matches are easy there|pg||
nt|baldjean: sorry, emergency here. I will have to stop commentating. I hope I can be back in about half an hour|pg||
nt|jaapfr: just above 50% chance is a too sharp slam:)|pg||
nt|vlad9: 14-16  NT?|pg||
nt|thegarve: the Bulgarians have been a growing force in Europe - I have been impressed by their strength in depth|pg||
nt|thegarve: yes 14-16 confirmed|pg||
mb|1D|nt|sybarra: West's name is Garcia |pg||
mb|p|nt|thegarve: this should ge passed out|pg||
nt|vlad9: ty  Martin  indeed we have had spectacular  successes lately|pg||
nt|thegarve: not just one pair at all, |pg||
nt|vlad9: we have 1st  and 3th place at last year european championship in Antalia in the open pairs and also 1st place in mixed pairs|pg||
nt|thegarve: the common system it seems is precision @C|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|an|15-17|mb|p|nt|vlad9: there is a bunch of other strong results also|pg||
nt|thegarve: the only reason to pull the double is if it was artificial|pg||
nt|eamongall: test|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|eamongall: oh we got fake irishman martin garvey commentating :)|pg||
nt|thegarve: to be sure, Eamon|pg||
nt|vlad9: danger ofgetting toohigh |pg||
nt|vlad9: garvey   an Irish name?|pg||
nt|thegarve: a real paddy, me, full of green blood with no artificial additives|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: 2@h Muiderberg showing 2 suits less than opening count..... some play this extremely low|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: agressive bid by Marc , i think |pg||
nt|h_karluk: weak bicolor-2N relay asks lower suit; competition -- relative vul|pg||
nt|xenya: indeed, but also quite reasonable in my view|pg||
nt|jaapfr: funny DD with @H lead E makes 6NT here lol|pg||
pc|s6|nt|mariner1: I think N should have DBL 2N if he plans to bid 3N later|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes|pg||
nt|mariner1: not that it would change things here, however it would alert S|pg||
nt|xenya: perhaps the double would have implied spades?|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: or pass all the time , more reasonnable i think|pg||
nt|moen: i dont like 2@h whats wrong with pass on 1@s|pg||
nt|thegarve: the secret is out - very much so vlad|pg||
pc|s4|nt|eamongall: Yes at the other table is his fellow tribe member playing |pg||
nt|thegarve: I am no relation to Tommy Garvey, who is on the team|pg||
pc|s8|nt|vlad9: good but not enough by NS   - 5 imps to ireland |pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|xenya: can he make this? -- looks very close |pg||
nt|eamongall: same tribe originally in some way |pg||
pc|dK|nt|sybarra: hardly a 6 card suit worth advertising is it?  (agreeing with you Fred)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: we all agree i think|pg||
nt|jaapfr: there are 12 tricks but E will sweat for this 3nt|pg||
nt|sybarra: South name is Vroutis,  when you get a chance operator |pg||
nt|sybarra: Vroustis |pg||
nt|sybarra: Vroustis,  (is correct spelling) |pg||
nt|jaapfr: the operators are lousy:(|pg||
nt|thegarve: I wonder why he pulled the double?|pg||
pc|dA|nt|jaapfr: wanted to say lousy quiet    sorry|pg||
nt|vugraphecd: merci|pg||
nt|jaapfr: je vous en pris:)|pg||
nt|sybarra: they are trying best Jaap,  and sometimes the players sit before AND play before operator is ready |pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pg||
nt|sybarra: in USA trials,  I had great cooperation from players experience on vugraph,  who waited until I was ready |pg||
pc|h9|nt|mariner1: no because @c will not come in|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|nt|moen: scared them away :)|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|mariner1: now he has a shot|pg||
nt|h_karluk: double may be an option- east wld surely bid. So South's attitude also important. Bompis likely committed himself to be there.|pg||
nt|xenya: suppose he wins 2nd diamond and plays on clubs...|pg||
nt|jaapfr: yesterday my operator whilst commentating said you must say something nasty to get our attention(was a joke of course) but he was right:) lol|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d6|nt|h_karluk: to me doubling firstly is simply a constructive philosophy|pg||
nt|Walddk6: running scores: http://tinyurl.com/5tung5|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: time stop|pg||
nt|thegarve: East would only have been able to cash 3 Acess|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h8|nt|vlad9: no idea  -afraid  of comparing  100 or 300  to   620  if  declarer has a long minor maybe|pg||
nt|thegarve: nearly all balanced hands should pass, partner is not asking you for an opinion|pg||
pc|hK|nt|vlad9: agree |pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|mariner1: hi all|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c5|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o33|st||md|3S985HA85D75CT9653,SAJT72HQJ92DCAKQ7,SQ643H6DAKJ92C842,SKHKT743DQT8643CJ|sv|o|nt|figb_rama: 3@D est|pg||
nt|figb_rama: 2 senza Alfrredo = trasf per @C|pg||
nt|figb_rama: fine|pg||
mb|p|nt|figb_rama: 3@D Est|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: molto bene|pg||
nt|ritong: nord va avoir un choix|pg||
nt|chmitty: quand ça va revenir à 4@d ?|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ritong: ah la c est plus simple|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: North's 1NT promises a fifth-round heart stopper.|pg||
nt|copeyj: and prevented e/w finding their @S fit|pg||
mb|6H|nt|rialc2: perdiamo solo qualche IMP's|pg||
nt|minnie lee: con la mano di N e la vulnerabilità avrei detto 1@h al passaggio|pg||
nt|mgchat: idem de l'autre coté on gagne rien finalement (((|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: Duboin is mumbling .."he never leads my suit!"|pg||
nt|royhughes: Maybe declarer will|pg||
nt|vugraphec2: donne 2 3P chez Levy Mouiel|pg||
nt|ritong: bonjour bernard|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: salut bernard|pg||
pc|d7|nt|mgchat: Levy a dit 1@s sur 1@d de l'opps|pg||
pc|h2|nt|figb_rama: Norbi sei in piccionaia?|pg||
nt|norby: y|pg||
pc|d9|nt|figb_rama: sei connesso dall'albergo?|pg||
nt|norby: si|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|chmitty: j'aurais dit x ... malgré le singleton @h|pg||
nt|chmitty: mais lui il est champion du monde, pas moi :)|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|brolucius: It seems that the defenders must avoid giving declarer three spade tricks.|pg||
nt|vugraphec2: bonjour à tous d'un endroit où il pleut continuellement!!!|pg||
pc|h6|nt|figb_rama: tutto ok? fatto il risveglio muscolare? :)|pg||
nt|norby: sono nella vasca:-))))))))))|pg||
nt|rialc2: ciao Norberto. Siete andati bene ieri. Bravi.|pg||
nt|royhughes: One way to beat this is to cash out the hearts and diamonds and exit into declarer|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s2|nt|mgchat: comme aimablement l'ouvreur a dit X de reveil, Alain a jumpé a 3@c|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|royhughes: That defense is still available|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|chmitty: la méteo est bonne pour demain Bernard|pg||
nt|mgchat: de Lyon alors ?|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|nt|norby: capita anche a noi:-))))|pg||
pc|h9|pc|d2|pg||
nt|reisig: still down|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|nt|rialc2: Cos'è il 2@D di Est?|pg||
pc|d6|nt|figb_rama: senti Norbi, il ragazzo lettone contro cui hanno giocato Francesco e Toni pare sia ben in gamba|pg||
nt|chmitty: et encore plus pour jeudi : 25° et franc soleil|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg||
nt|caruga: 8/12 bil, ero curioso anche io|pg||
nt|figb_rama: ha fatto un attacco e uno sblocco da big...|pg||
nt|norby: 2 quadri e bilanciata forcing game|pg||
nt|royhughes: Right|pg||
pc|d8|nt|figb_rama: Rubins|pg||
pc|s8|pc|hJ|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|norby: sembra che giochi bene|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|royhughes: persistent play by both sides|pg||
pc|c4|nt|uppino: cuori cuori taglio e messa in mano|pg||
pc|dT|pc|c5|pg||
nt|brolucius: West got to his fourth-round spade trick before declarer could establish a heart for himself.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|dQ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|s6|pc|h7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|mc|12|pg||
qx|c33|st||md|3S985HA85D75CT9653,SAJT72HQJ92DCAKQ7,SQ643H6DAKJ92C842,SKHKT743DQT8643CJ|sv|o|nt|h_karluk: In constructive auctions , partners bids are always taken at face value.|pg||
nt|sybarra: *psych |pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: bet not,  uness a phsyce|pg||
nt|jaapfr: too much salt, sand, wind and heat here at the beach:(|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|mariner1: easy 4@s game EW |pg||
nt|vlad9: 2di  = tfer   hearts  any strength|pg||
nt|mariner1: can make slam here I think by setting up W|pg||
mb|2D|nt|vugraphec1: sry previous baord , Marc put the K @d under the ace so -1 and not -3|pg||
nt|mariner1: @s by E is a 1N type positive response and denies 4@s probably|pg||
nt|h_karluk: it's OK|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: i dont see the card ;)|pg||
nt|h_karluk: :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|thegarve: transfers are a very good idea, especially in limited systems|pg||
mb|d|nt|Walddk10: Welcome to Tony Reus|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: 3N by W is also fine|pg||
nt|sybarra: south and west are screenmates,  likely bid being entered together |pg||
nt|starkist: thx, hi|pg||
nt|eamongall: thats Tuna as I recall from theo ld okbridge |pg||
nt|thegarve: South had a 3@H call in the first and was fortunate to have another bite|pg||
nt|vlad9: yes allow you  to  compete freely not promissing anything but the suit|pg||
nt|starkist: your memory serves you well|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphec1: yes|pg||
nt|sybarra: e/n on the other side of screen |pg||
mb|p|pc|sK|nt|jaapfr: it can be made but....|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Hi John|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: Rob:)|pg||
nt|swanson: Hi all.|pg||
nt|mariner1: hi Val and John|pg||
pc|s5|nt|h_karluk: Is it a poor gambling?|pg||
nt|mariner1: 3N can make if he plays carefully|pg||
pc|s7|nt|thegarve: if he had bid 3H he wouyld have receive a @s lead now he should lead a @D|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|mariner1: well 2@d DBL is a little short of the slam as bid in Open|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c3|nt|h_karluk: deciding with @hQx ?|pg||
nt|xenya: although i don't see how W could be sure about a @H stopper with partner|pg||
nt|h_karluk: :)|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: 1 @s si alerted as : say 1nt p |pg||
nt|sybarra: E does not wand to lead trumps on this hand |pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|h_karluk: The destructive style is based on poor gambling . You are gambling that the opponents do the wrong thing & partner does not get in the way by believing you . This style of Bridge ...|pg||
nt|h_karluk: works best in weak fields where you are taking advantage of the opponents inexperience in dealing with such situations .  Your system is geared towards destructive bidding so ...|pg||
nt|h_karluk: single handed decisions are the norm .|pg||
nt|xenya: ah that's different|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://www.usbf.org/    Tournament site|pg||
nt|swanson: Slam is available in hearts but it is very tough for Morse not to go for a penalty.|pg||
pc|sA|nt|moen: i bet they make 2@s|pg||
pc|s4|nt|vlad9: going overboard here it seams|pg||
nt|eamongall: looks like 1 off ....using my own noodle barring endplays |pg||
nt|thegarve: fast auction and 4@H would have made, not now|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s8|pg||
nt|thegarve: how have Ireland been playing so far Eamon, you must have watrched a fair bit?|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch many vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't, ...|pg||
nt|mariner1: Open one browser window per table|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer will score four trump tricks and his heart ace, so only -500 against a potential 920 for E-W.|pg||
nt|swanson: 980, that is.|pg||
mc|5|nt|mariner1: yes they invert the 1@s and 1N response to keep best hand playing contract|pg||
nt|jaapfr: unless he tries to trump another @H|pg||
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qx|o34|st||md|4SJ96HQ942D9842CQ2,SKQ5HA86DJT7CT873,SA873HT53DKQ63CK6,ST42HKJ7DA5CAJ954|sv|n|nt|norby: pewccato nn sia un mithell|pg||
nt|vugraphec3: l'ha giocata anche a 100 al'ora|pg||
nt|royhughes: well done|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|reisig: 1@h?|pg||
mb|1N|nt|chmitty: Quelle entame en Sud sur l'ouverture de 1SA en Est ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|copeyj: prefer it to 2@h richie|pg||
nt|chmitty: 6 de @h ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|copeyj: :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: A little joke from the operator.|pg||
nt|reisig: me too|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: sorry|pg||
nt|copeyj: 2nd seat vul, that is not a 2@h opener for me|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: No, we enjoyed it!|pg||
nt|ritong: avec toi|pg||
pc|s3|nt|reisig: will prob be a push|pg||
nt|copeyj: nice hand for poker though|pg||
nt|copeyj: J high straight flush|pg||
nt|reisig: maybe ..this is time for getting coffee|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am sure Knap will be glad to have at least one commentator supporting his 2@H opening. Automatic, for me.|pg||
pc|sT|nt|caruga: 2 cuori chiede|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|rialc2: giocano le sottoaperture proprio serie. Penso che in chiusa apriranno a 1|pg||
nt|chmitty: La dame de @s peut affranchir trois levées en flanc ... ou pour le déclarant|pg||
nt|ritong: santos est plus entreprenant que nous|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|royhughes: I don't mind 2@h opening -- it will not get safer to come in later|pg||
nt|chmitty: les @d 33 et l'impasse @h ça fait 7 levées de toute façon|pg||
pc|c8|nt|norby: passano in chiusa|pg||
nt|chmitty: ou plutôt on donne as et roi de @c sry|pg||
pc|cK|nt|rialc2: si sono capiti alla grande ....|pg||
pc|cA|nt|norby: pero con l apertura di 1 cuori raggiungeranno 4 cuori faacilmente|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|copeyj: split panel|pg||
pc|c4|nt|rialc2: mi sa che 2@H era naturale forzante e non realis|pg||
nt|rialc2: relais|pg||
nt|cumino: Forse 2@h è un relais, se no non si capisce|pg||
nt|caruga: la conve dice che 2 cuori è rel e 2sa mostra le cuori F1|pg||
nt|minnie lee: non capisco perche N non ha datto il fit a @h|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|norby: su 2 quadri debole si devegiocare 2 cuori e 2 picche for 1 giro con almeno 5 carte, come giocano gli americani|pg||
nt|brolucius: As I have mentioned before, the book '50 Excuses for not Pre-empting' is not on my shelf.|pg||
pc|cT|nt|copeyj: looks like we need Roland to offer a decisive vote|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|royhughes: Bocci chose to duck to keep control -- could be wrong if partner had Q10x|pg||
nt|chmitty: arrivée de la 8ème levée|pg||
pc|s9|nt|rialc2: mi sa che si son sbagliati|pg||
nt|norby: no , e il sistema chee sbagliato|pg||
nt|uppino: concordo con norby|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|nt|brolucius: He will, as usual, disagree with me - without asking what the question was... |pg||
nt|copeyj: Mine neither, David. But in this seat and position suit quality is of some relevance for me.|pg||
nt|royhughes: I think it is quite playable to either open or not|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg||
nt|rialc2: ma se 2@H è relais 2SA cos'è|pg||
pc|d3|nt|caruga: mostra le cuori|pg||
pc|dA|nt|norby: forcing manche con le cuori|pg||
nt|caruga: e non chiedermi perchè non l'ha detto :)|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d8|pc|c7|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c9|nt|royhughes: This has been a good defense going back to Duboin's duck at trick 1|pg||
pc|h2|pc|c3|nt|royhughes: But 2@h still makes|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|c5|pc|d9|pc|dJ|mc|8|pg||
qx|c34|st||md|4SJ96HQ942D9842CQ2,SKQ5HA86DJT7CT873,SA873HT53DKQ63CK6,ST42HKJ7DA5CAJ954|sv|n|nt|mariner1: right John, very tough decision for E to make at the 2 level,,,,,, early to be thinking slam|pg||
mb|1C|nt|sybarra: well so much for the bet Fred |pg||
nt|moen: :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|sybarra: this is a better 6 card @H suit than the last |pg||
nt|jaapfr: i put 1000 drinks on 2@S not made:)|pg||
nt|baldjean: I am abck. sorry for the interruption, but when you have kids these things happen. they flooded our bathroom|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|h_karluk: was risky, anyway result is a flat one|pg||
nt|mariner1: 2@d a form of multi here with weak 2 in @s|pg||
nt|xenya: nice save by the French in CR?|pg||
nt|sybarra: omg|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: 3@h is game invitational in @s,,, surprised W did not bid 4|pg||
nt|vlad9: which team will be the major surprise this time - what do u think?|pg||
nt|mariner1: pretty straight forward 1N here..... all in how he plays at to   of tricks|pg||
pc|d3|nt|thegarve: ok - guess my location - and my beverage|pg||
pc|d5|nt|mariner1: of course strange E would invite game|pg||
nt|starkist: couch, beer|pg||
pc|d8|nt|xenya: here it worked 1 level lower|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|eamongall: I vote for Denmark ..as a major surprise ... |pg||
nt|swanson: With East declarer, nine tricks would come home.  This is 9 tricks also now.|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
nt|thegarve: pub with Guinness in hand...some would say I'm biased|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|jaapfr: this 2@S has a better chance to be made|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|mariner1: 3@h is pass or correct however it USUALLY asks for game if in @s|pg||
nt|mariner1: @d lead gives up a trick,,, |pg||
pc|c8|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dT|nt|xenya: to be fair, not much chance for NS to get in -- nor at any other tables i think|pg||
nt|mariner1: obviously E was just using it as destructive bidding,,, however he was not broke so a mystery to me|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|moen: yes cant go wrong here|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|nt|eamongall: sure thats a great place to be ... |pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 1 imp for monaco so 14-12|pg||
pc|c7|nt|baldjean: lots of IMPs for 3 boards already|pg||
nt|eamongall: advertise ..which pub |pg||
nt|vlad9: another small pick up to ireland|pg||
nt|thegarve: my usual please barman|pg||
pc|h3|nt|vlad9: they get imps from every board so far|pg||
pc|c4|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c3|nt|sybarra: yes we seem to be throwing them in the air |pg||
nt|jaapfr: yes first board an unhappy slam\|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c9|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c5|nt|mariner1: we can see a @s worked better heres however the @d had more appeal for extra tricks in a low level contract|pg||
nt|swanson: Too many heart discards - declarer is going to take 10 now.|pg||
mc|8|nt|h_karluk: I wld prefer 2 @h there ..2@s =  pass or ready to be on 3@h if you opened 6pcs @H..too high for me with a balanced|pg||
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qx|o35|st||md|1SAT96HKJ654DT873C,SKJ42H93DK95CK643,S85HT87DQ6CJT9752,SQ73HAQ2DAJ42CAQ8|sv|e|nt|minnie lee: strano pero|pg||
nt|norby: invece si deve giocare forcing 1 giro|pg||
nt|rialc2: no dicevo il 2SA di risposta al relais|pg||
nt|caruga: minimo|pg||
nt|juan lukas: bonjour a tous :)|pg||
nt|chmitty: salut :)|pg||
nt|ritong: salut jean luc:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|norby: perche nn ha il forcing manche se il compagno nn ha fit a cuori|pg||
nt|rialc2: minimo???!|pg||
mb|3C|nt|copeyj: anyone for 2@D as east?|pg||
nt|brolucius: After 7 rounds, Spain lie 11th out of 19, with the first 9 teams in each half of the draw to go through to the second section of the championship. Italy are just 2nd to Finland.|pg||
nt|reisig: They prob use that for something else|pg||
nt|copeyj: or even 3@D as a German junior suggests to me :)|pg||
nt|royhughes: A 2@d preempt would be normal in America, if not 3|pg||
mb|3N|nt|caruga: veramente la loro Convention dice forzante un giro|pg||
mb|p|nt|norby: facciamo commenti a carte coperte please:-))))))))))))|pg||
nt|royhughes: The Italians have traditionally not required much high card strength for a simple overcall|pg||
mb|p|nt|minnie lee: se 2SA è relay, alora S poteva licitare 3@c|pg||
nt|royhughes: Duboin goes quietly|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk4: running scores: http://tinyurl.com/5tung5|pg||
nt|figb_rama: alla 4 in chiusa non ci hanno messo a nostro agio|pg||
nt|royhughes: warned by the 1N bid|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|ritong: en face d un 2@h "positif", je nommerais carrément la manche|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|rialc2: beh lasciamoli fare, speriamo abbiano molte sottoaperture:)))|pg||
nt|royhughes: It looks like declarer has the material for 7 tricks, just a few entry problems|pg||
nt|copeyj: http://www.eurobridge1.org/competitions/08pau/pau.htm is the homepage for the competition website, from there you can access information, results from previous rounds and running ...|pg||
nt|copeyj: scores|pg||
pc|s3|nt|figb_rama: 2@S Ovest - p Lorenzo - 3@S Est - dbl Alfredo|pg||
pc|s6|nt|chmitty: Franck aime bien consulter son partenaire|pg||
nt|ritong: mais francky est moins radical|pg||
pc|sK|nt|Walddk2: running scores: http://tinyurl.com/3ux8fk|pg||
nt|chmitty: un As sec c'est pas top|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|cumino: C'è il piccolo rischio di là che giochino 6@C in questa mano|pg||
nt|figb_rama: ...p-4@S L-p-4NT-p...|pg||
nt|figb_rama: 5@D!!!|pg||
nt|norby: per fortuna ha 17 punti e apre di 1sa|pg||
pc|c3|nt|ritong: c est juste|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|juan lukas: 9 levées sans doute car AR de @s et @s coupé affranchit la D du mort pour la defausse d'un @d de la main |pg||
pc|cQ|nt|chmitty: le 7 vient d'un doubleton|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sJ|nt|norby: fatte 5 quadri|pg||
nt|figb_rama: sì|pg||
nt|rialc2: 5@D dovrebbe farle|pg||
nt|norby: solo re di picche e fiori batteva|pg||
nt|cumino: no, non batteva credo|pg||
nt|ritong: ça ne lui aura pas échappé|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|d5|nt|chmitty: à moins que 1097|pg||
pc|d6|nt|norby: ha 4 fiori il morto?|pg||
nt|juan lukas: bonnes encheres en tout cas et bien joué de Franck |pg||
pc|dJ|nt|rialc2: no sul 4° @C va la @H|pg||
nt|norby: alllora si|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|nt|norby: non ricordavo se aveva 3 picche o 2|pg||
pc|cA|nt|brolucius: We have had four part-scores out of five boards. OK, we are now ready for the big stuff! |pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|c8|pc|hK|pc|cK|nt|royhughes: David, you never cared for watching 1NT, did you?|pg||
nt|brolucius: As it happens, you are right.|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|katar: buongiornoooooooooo|pg||
nt|figb_rama: ciao|pg||
nt|caruga: ciao|pg||
nt|septiembre: ciao a tutti|pg||
nt|minnie lee: ciao|pg||
pc|d9|nt|rialc2: ciao|pg||
pc|c5|nt|figb_rama: ciao Agus|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
nt|cumino: Ha aperto 1SA Lorenzo, per fortuna|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h9|nt|brolucius: A recent survey showed that it was the slowest-played contract, with an average of 10 minutes 18 seconds. |pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|copeyj: 9 tricks for declarer|pg||
nt|copeyj: and 2 imps to Spain|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c35|st||md|1SAT96HKJ654DT873C,SKJ42H93DK95CK643,S85HT87DQ6CJT9752,SQ73HAQ2DAJ42CAQ8|sv|e|nt|sybarra: Monaco hanging in there |pg||
nt|sybarra: these "little" imps add up|pg||
nt|thegarve: The Princess Royale in Colliers Wood near Wimbledon|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: yes not much reason to take this beyond the 2 level|pg||
nt|jaapfr: better NS not much higher than 1NT here|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: i'm told Belgium did get to 4@H -- well done|pg||
nt|baldjean: "Kleinvieh maxcht auch Mist", as a German proverb says. translated it means "small cattle produce manure too"|pg||
nt|mariner1: maybe Trevor missed a play...... hard to see all the cards at at table|pg||
mb|p|nt|h_karluk: Playing this style , partnership confidence is put at risk |pg||
mb|2N|nt|thegarve: the landlord is a mate of mine from Belfast, Paddy Murphy, of course|pg||
mb|p|nt|moen: Ew can get in trouble|pg||
mb|3C|nt|baldjean: macht, not maxcht|pg||
nt|eamongall:  another irish kibitzer says "am in a beer garden in Frankfuirt - waiting for the football on big screen - beats the Regent any day!|pg||
mb|p|nt|thegarve: they will probably pass 4@h out|pg||
mb|3D|nt|h_karluk: In competitive auctions , you believe the opponents rather than partner.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: better 2@H bid by E|pg||
nt|jaapfr: now EW in big trouble|pg||
nt|vlad9: part score battle here   -  dbl  shows both minors|pg||
nt|vlad9: 3he is the last spot most probably with no di support  from e|pg||
nt|starkist: tempting to bid 4@c and play it there|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|mariner1: am told 3@h here shows preemptive values in BOTH majors|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: and that sort of does make sense in that auction|pg||
nt|xenya: coffee hand|pg||
nt|h_karluk: In fact , the opponents guide you through the auction rather than partner. This works well if partner does not have his bid but back fires if partner does have his bid & the ...|pg||
nt|h_karluk: opponents do not . |pg||
nt|glenne: thanks|pg||
mb|p|nt|baldjean: uh-oh|pg||
mb|p|nt|vlad9: oo   he  thinks  he has di support:)|pg||
nt|thegarve: a clear overbid|pg||
nt|mariner1: soit looks like EW are not playing Puppet|pg||
nt|swanson: I agree with Dan's 2NT opening, even if it systemically shows 20-21.  Partner is a passes hand and he wants to protect his tenaces.|pg||
nt|mariner1: hi Glenn|pg||
pc|h5|nt|mariner1: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/ebl/2008PauFrance/syscards.asp  -  convention cards|pg||
nt|sybarra: undoubled..."only 50's" |pg||
nt|jaapfr: afraid pass  by S imo|pg||
nt|glenne: they definitely don't playpuppet, laughed when i even asked first halp|pg||
nt|glenne: half|pg||
pc|h3|nt|moen: he must have seen a lot of -670|pg||
nt|baldjean: lots of 50s though|pg||
nt|jaapfr: :)|pg||
nt|sybarra: not sure why W felt compelled to bid again on a misfit |pg||
pc|h7|nt|starkist: not even a good save|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|sybarra: but agree with you jaap  @H better to begin with but easy for us to see |pg||
nt|jaapfr: against 580 can go a lot down here|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|nt|eamongall: to that german based kibitzer ... Regent Bar is far better except for that barman chappie who keeps asking for money |pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c3|nt|h_karluk: That biz is by necessity a “master minding” approach . You can not pass the ball to partner as either of you might not have your bid . The opponents escape unscathed because you ...|pg||
nt|h_karluk: are “compensating” for partner not having his bid . This is a win win situation for the opponents . Sacrificing is a pure gamble as we do not know if we have defensive tricks or ...|pg||
nt|h_karluk: not . |pg||
nt|sybarra: 11 50's |pg||
pc|cJ|nt|sybarra: or so |pg||
nt|baldjean: if at all he should have chosen 2@h as a bid, which would have given East a chance to correct to 2@s if that was any better|pg||
pc|cA|nt|mariner1: very good point about E's tenaces|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|s7|nt|jaapfr: if X means i have majors than 2@H a must imo|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|h8|nt|sybarra: yes 2 @H would be pass or correct (to me)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: morse deep in thought|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: Morse|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|baldjean: I agree, Jaap|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|vlad9: test|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|c2|pg||
nt|h_karluk: The constructive way to earn IMPS is to maximize partnership discipline so as  to be accurate in bidding partials , games and slams. This partnership discipline also assists ...|pg||
nt|h_karluk: defending & sacrificing decisions. The assumption of discipline is paramount in all decision making. |pg||
nt|swanson: Looks like 11 tricks for declarer.  South was going to be squeezed in the pointed suits sooner or later - he made it sooner.|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h6|nt|vugraphec1: nice|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|c7|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c4|nt|jaapfr: but pass like in CR by E also not the happiest choice|pg||
pc|c9|nt|eamongall: www.theregentbc.com is the Dublin based bridge players gathering place |pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d7|pg||
nt|jaapfr: OR i mean|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|nt|mariner1: surprised he did not play @h for the uptrick|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes think to that |pg||
nt|mariner1: had nothing to lose|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o36|st||md|2SQT53HAT8DAKJT84C,SAJ7HJ7DQ973CAK97,S942HK943D5CQJ432,SK86HQ652D62CT865|sv|b|nt|norby: detto....|pg||
nt|rialc2: bene ... ma avrebbe indovinato la Q di @H!|pg||
mb|1N|nt|cumino: Avevo paura rivalutasse teste e quinta|pg||
mb|p|nt|copeyj: here is the big hand you were after David|pg||
mb|p|nt|copeyj: a good 6@S contract|pg||
nt|brolucius: Ah, the big stuff has arrived.|pg||
nt|chmitty: Hervé a cambriolé 4@h sur la 3|pg||
mb|2C!|an|single suited|mb|p|nt|copeyj: Wasik will surely break the transfer|pg||
nt|chmitty: quand le flanc a oublié de jouer @s à la deuxième levée|pg||
mb|2D|nt|ritong: d après mes infos, c etait a la arsene lupin|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: secondo m 6@C li avrebbe fatti ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: I have a private line to the Great Shuffler.|pg||
nt|reisig: Tough to reach this ..I thk|pg||
nt|copeyj: interesting decision not to|pg||
nt|chmitty: élminitaion mise en mains au revoir et merci|pg||
nt|mgchat: beau cambriolage|pg||
mb|3D|nt|norby: qui si perde....|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I demanded more exciting boards 5 mins ago, and the organisers seem to have complied|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: 3@H un pò conservativo|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|copeyj: erm|pg||
nt|copeyj: is this really the auction? :)|pg||
nt|reisig: I hope not :)|pg||
nt|royhughes: I think Wasik might have tried a cuebid over 3N|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: yes, i asked again|pg||
nt|copeyj: I am afraid|pg||
nt|brolucius: South's pass is very strange indeed. If that is indeed what he has done. His partner might be 5-3-1-4, not strong enough to suggest clubs as a trump suit.|pg||
nt|royhughes: I understand it, 4333 and all, but don't agree|pg||
pc|h2|nt|copeyj: I am astonished at the decision|pg||
nt|copeyj: to pass|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our operator is Robin Fellus. Welcome to you, the most important person of them all|pg||
nt|brolucius: I don't understand it at all. Surely 4@S will make opposite a hand with that support.|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: thanks|pg||
pc|h8|nt|chmitty: revenons à nos moutons ... qui est favori . déclarant ou flanc ?|pg||
nt|mgchat: malheureusement declarant sur affranchissement des @d|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|juan lukas: hum ...... |pg||
nt|chmitty: et on va les chercher comment ?|pg||
nt|chmitty: si le flanc duque un tour de @d par exemple|pg||
nt|ritong: ça serait une bonne idée de ducker ça|pg||
nt|mgchat: s'il est duque|pg||
nt|juan lukas: il faut duquer une fois a @d en Est , et apparemment le declarant ne fait que 1@d 3@c 2@h 2@s = 8 sauf fin de coup |pg||
nt|chmitty: duquer l'entame d'abord|pg||
nt|ritong: vi|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is a matchpoint decision, at best, it seems to me.|pg||
pc|h3|nt|norby: impasse a fiori o cuori 2-2 ...non male|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|nt|chmitty: bon switch|pg||
nt|juan lukas: retour @s encore plus efficace il me semble |pg||
nt|chmitty: GIB dit qu'il fallait prendre l'entame mais j'avoue que je ne vois pas pourquoi ... réfléchissons :)|pg||
nt|chmitty: là il est clair que le flanc va faire 2@s 2@d et l'entame donc c'est pas bon pour le déclarant|pg||
nt|ritong: parce que 1@h + 2@s +2@d = 5|pg||
nt|chmitty: alors si je prends l'entame et je joue @d ... duqué|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|royhughes: Well, in Wasik's defense, if partner is minimum 9 tricks may be easier than 10|pg||
nt|reisig: and ...at worst?|pg||
pc|dA|nt|cumino: loro possono fare 4@S|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|c2|pc|d6|pg||
nt|copeyj: I would have broken the transfer with AKAA and 4 card support, and I definitely would have bid 4@C over 3N.|pg||
nt|copeyj: However some people are saying North should have shown @D en route to 3N, and maybe they are right|pg||
pc|hA|pc|d9|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|h9|nt|chmitty: hummm ... c'est de la magie ... il faudrait commencer par un tout à blanc à @s puis élminer les @h et mettre est en mains à @s|pg||
pc|c5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s2|nt|chmitty: comme quoi il ne faut jamais regarder GIB :)|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d8|nt|ritong: ou alors avec circonspection:)|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c36|st||md|2SQT53HAT8DAKJT84C,SAJ7HJ7DQ973CAK97,S942HK943D5CQJ432,SK86HQ652D62CT865|sv|b|nt|mariner1: 4@h makes EW|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: not a good strat for france|pg||
nt|sybarra: most likely will be surprised to win 10 |pg||
nt|vlad9: mcgann is trying to get opps tire |pg||
nt|eamongall: uh oh Garveys pub must be closed or he spilt his guinness |pg||
nt|vlad9: tired  sry|pg||
nt|thegarve: 3NT looks the spot|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|mariner1: NS can save or even make 4@s|pg||
mb|p|nt|baldjean: slam in @s here|pg||
nt|vlad9: good rezult for bulgaria  in the open room here|pg||
nt|thegarve: yes you have to cut off dummy|pg||
nt|glenne: gave zeke a chance to make that when they didn't lead a trump but led a spade|pg||
nt|glenne: but we were down one undoubled|pg||
nt|glenne: they bid a good grand to push the board|pg||
mb|2C|an|Capp|nt|vugraphec1: yes good defense|pg||
nt|starkist: 1f 2n gets raised that is|pg||
mb|p|nt|h_karluk: Ý m not sure 3@c is a sound call with 11 HCP at 3rd seat|pg||
nt|swanson: Whatever bid South makes will not show his potential in three suits.  But without a fit it doesn't make much difference on this hand.|pg||
mb|2D|nt|xenya: may be systemic|pg||
nt|moen: willget there now i think|pg||
nt|jaapfr: btw our operator is doing better and better and finer altough is not saying too much:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: 10-13, good 6 carder |pg||
nt|vugraphec1: now marc must pass|pg||
nt|h_karluk: in a lower ranking suit; if next opp has bigger values just helps to underline distribution at an early stage.|pg||
nt|mariner1: well if he bids and forces them to game he has to bid 4 too|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|starkist: would prob go vul|pg||
nt|mariner1: 2@c showing 1 suit here|pg||
pc|h2|nt|glenne: this one should be a push, three diamonds down one and two diamonds down one|pg||
nt|swanson: Using a convention which doesn't bring spades into the picture seems inadequate to me.|pg||
nt|mariner1: in Open S raised to 3@d not crediting the big NT on his left much|pg||
nt|glenne: onstott has more faith in drew's declarer play than steve does in his own...lol|pg||
nt|mariner1: what do you play here John?|pg||
nt|swanson: I use Woolsey with some partners, revised DONT with others.|pg||
nt|mariner1: I am a DONT fan myself|pg||
pc|h8|nt|vlad9: 5 imps back|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Welcome to Nik Demirev|pg||
nt|vlad9: welcome nik|pg||
nt|ndemirev: hello everyone|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ndemirev: zdr Vlado |pg||
nt|thegarve: hi nik|pg||
nt|thegarve: zdr means?|pg||
nt|vlad9: Nik was my  regular partner  when he lived in Bulgaria|pg||
nt|ndemirev: "hi"|pg||
nt|vlad9: zdr   means  hi|pg||
nt|ndemirev: zdravei = hello |pg||
nt|vlad9: it was many years ago |pg||
nt|thegarve: it has no vowels, how do you pronounce it?|pg||
nt|starkist: saved letters on "nik"|pg||
nt|vlad9: difficult:)|pg||
nt|swanson: With Woolsey you would double to show four of a major and a longer minor.|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
pc|h4|nt|mariner1: now to make it for a big swing|pg||
nt|ndemirev: good question :) |pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|nt|thegarve: miming it?|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|h_karluk: there they are..as rip Terence Reese issued on Advanced Bridge Play-caption : they told too much:)|pg||
nt|xenya: very well done by the french in both rooms|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes good fror france anyway ,|pg||
nt|mariner1: he will have a restricted choice position in @d likely.......|pg||
pc|hA|nt|baldjean: looks like a try for grand|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h3|nt|thegarve: this will be off too|pg||
nt|mariner1: that would work here.......both DONT and Woolsey might end in either 2@h likely or 2@s|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: he can win if he find all|pg||
nt|moen: askin for 3. round control in @d i think|pg||
nt|baldjean: will be claimed fast|pg||
nt|sybarra: this is easy,  agree, Jeanine |pg||
pc|cK|nt|ndemirev: its just an internet abbreviation like "pd" for partner :) |pg||
pc|c3|nt|swanson: You would probably end in 2@S.|pg||
pc|c5|pc|d4|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, but even he doesn't, will be a huge gain anyway|pg||
nt|mariner1: off is 11 and making is 14|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes|pg||
nt|eamongall: The irish based rueful rabbit ...a secretive bridge animal ....http://ruefulr.blogspot.com/|pg||
pc|dA|nt|sybarra: its just sort of pesky that spades are 3/1  but affects nothing |pg||
pc|d7|nt|eamongall: http://ruefulr.blogspot.com/|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|nt|ndemirev: ducking the @h lead was essential |pg||
pc|d9|pc|h9|nt|vlad9: dimond to the queen  and is home|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|thegarve: his only hope was to take the first @h, quite possible with the weak two showing 6|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|nt|thegarve: and to keep East on play losing 2@s and 2@d|pg||
pc|s9|nt|vlad9: its cold even now|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|jaapfr: my screen keeps on to be filled by a wojela2       yours too?|pg||
nt|swanson: With Woolsey (2@D by North, asking for major)|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d8|pc|c7|pc|s2|pg||
nt|xenya: he will get @Ds right i think |pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|nt|thegarve: 3 + 2= 5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pg||
nt|mariner1: well done|pg||
nt|vlad9: 2nt  |pg||
pc|dQ|nt|thegarve: yes |pg||
pc|c2|nt|sybarra: yes|pg||
pc|s8|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cA|nt|baldjean: wojela is a yellow|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|s5|mc|8|pg||
qx|o37|st||md|3SAK864HAJ9852DTC9,SJT2HQ7DKQJ982CQ7,SQ97H63DA763CKT83,S53HKT4D54CAJ6542|sv|n|nt|rialc2: se riescono ad entrare, dopo la sottoapertura, 4@S le fanno|pg||
nt|k 51 bis: buongiorno a tutti|pg||
nt|copeyj: another cracking hand|pg||
nt|royhughes: 6@s was almost cold, but not easy to bid with certainty|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|nt|rialc2: ciao|pg||
nt|figb_rama: ciao|pg||
nt|minnie lee: ciao|pg||
nt|ritong: ça alors|pg||
mb|4C|nt|caruga: ciao|pg||
nt|ritong: passer ce jeu tombe bien, ça n enterrera pas 4@s|pg||
mb|4D|nt|chmitty: malgré le passe d'entrée et l'ouverture minimum on fait 4@s ... reste à les déclarer|pg||
mb|d|nt|brolucius: You should introduce a minor only when you have sufficient extra strength to think that five of the minor might be the right contract (instead of 3NT). On North's actual hand he ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: did hold such extra strength. Mind you, he must have expected South to go back to spades on most hands with three or more spades.|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 7@S is fair contract now, is it not?|pg||
mb|4H|nt|rialc2: non è semplice battere questo 4@H, visto che attacca Est|pg||
nt|chmitty: c'est simple ce jeu|pg||
mb|p|nt|copeyj: 1NT showed 5+ spades|pg||
nt|ritong: santos a trouvé une voie:-)|pg||
mb|4S|nt|norby: attacca ovesttttttttt|pg||
nt|copeyj: very reasonable Roland|pg||
nt|copeyj: perhaps one might even say good|pg||
nt|copeyj: :)|pg||
nt|royhughes: Fair grand, but hard to make if clubs are Jxxx|pg||
nt|ritong: il n en demeure pas moins que si la main se situe dans la zone du chelem, nord aura du mal a imaginer tout ça chez un passeur d entrée|pg||
nt|juan lukas: ils n'ont pas l'air de jouer l'enchere de 4@s apres X comme barrage :)|pg||
nt|chmitty: le jeu prudent est d'ouvrir la coupe à @h sans toucher aux atouts|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: ah meglio|pg||
mb|p|nt|k 51 bis: attacca sud mi sa|pg||
nt|figb_rama: nord...|pg||
nt|k 51 bis: si nord, se si gioca 5@D|pg||
nt|rialc2: ha troppo non dovrebbe ...|pg||
nt|royhughes: unless North has singleton 9|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, you could not enjoy the fourth club trick.|pg||
nt|copeyj: 2@C gazilli esque i thk, 2@D established gf|pg||
mb|p|nt|cumino: Di la sono a %@D dbl per il momento|pg||
nt|cumino: 5|pg||
nt|Walddk2: yes|pg||
nt|copeyj: the Spaniards in the other room reached 6@S|pg||
nt|chmitty: pour éviter que le flanc n'ait l'occasion de jouer trois coups d'atout|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|nt|cumino: confermato|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|rialc2: bene|pg||
nt|cumino: doppio x noi|pg||
nt|copeyj: so lets see if the Italians can bid the grand|pg||
nt|royhughes: It looks like they will|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Peter Crouch expecting 15 rounds of bidding|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|reisig: Looks headed there|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Not quite|pg||
pc|h3|nt|copeyj: Crouchy off the mark this time|pg||
pc|h4|nt|figb_rama: se F gioca quadri per far giocare @S lo lascia in presa con qualcunque carta...:)|pg||
nt|figb_rama: lascia in presa anche il 6|pg||
pc|h9|nt|royhughes: Duboin's action quite understandable, with no obvious losers|pg||
nt|brolucius: But the Italians are definitely not off the mark. Well bid!|pg||
nt|copeyj: testament to their methods - decent grand reached in 4 rounds of bidding.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: This is precise Acol bidding, did you pay attention, Peter?|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: very fast also|pg||
nt|pitiful: from your book Roland?|pg||
nt|copeyj: sit back and admire|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|pitiful: Acol and Flan... complete by Roland Wald|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 2NT  is 16+ hcp with a club side suit|pg||
nt|copeyj: put your £5 in the swear box peter for mentioning the F word|pg||
nt|royhughes: Declarer, not knowing clubs are 3-2, may have some thinking to do|pg||
nt|royhughes: He may want to ruff 2 diamonds in case he needs a squeeze for 13 -- does that make sense?|pg||
nt|brolucius: He has ten top tricks (if clubs are not 3-2), so must add two diamond ruffs.|pg||
nt|royhughes: That might mean ruffing hearts 3 times in hand|pg||
nt|royhughes: which is dangerous|pg||
nt|reisig: might lose to @h 6-2|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
nt|rialc2: meglio tardi che mai|pg||
nt|figb_rama: uff..|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s4|nt|vugraphec3: fermi tutti|pg||
nt|vugraphec3: direttore chiamato|pg||
nt|figb_rama: che è successo Robin?|pg||
nt|vugraphec3: il 4 di sementa leggermente schiantato|pg||
nt|vugraphec3: ma in realta' vi assicuro che le schiante tutte|pg||
pc|d2|nt|rialc2: Quante down di là?|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|s6|nt|brolucius: I was talking about a contract of only 6@S, of course. It seems that in the grand he needs the clubs to break.|pg||
pc|s2|nt|figb_rama: tra 1 e 2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|sA|nt|Walddk2: Bocchi is usually a very quick player. You will see that now after he decided which line would be best|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg||
nt|cumino: di là dipende. Piccola imperfezione di Lorenzo, potrebbe risparmiare|pg||
pc|h2|pc|sJ|nt|royhughes: He is playing for the extra chance of squeez3|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c37|st||md|3SAK864HAJ9852DTC9,SJT2HQ7DKQJ982CQ7,SQ97H63DA763CKT83,S53HKT4D54CAJ6542|sv|n|nt|xenya: indeed|pg||
nt|h_karluk: good decisions|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes the start is better now :) let the frenchis awking :)|pg||
nt|mariner1: 5@d is actually a phantom save here as major game is beatible|pg||
nt|sybarra: yes  and her son is setting up the voice commentary |pg||
nt|sybarra: is an experiment  but getting good comments so far |pg||
nt|ndemirev: basically isporski imporve his line to making vs @CK offside |pg||
nt|thegarve: missed sry asumed 3|pg||
nt|ndemirev: *improved|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: so the match is getting tighter|pg||
mb|3C|nt|h_karluk: seems a phantom save|pg||
nt|h_karluk: @c ruffs|pg||
nt|xenya: i can't help feeling however, it all resulted from E's failure to open i 1st seat|pg||
nt|mariner1: 4 of either major playes well here|pg||
mb|4C|nt|vlad9: missed game in open|pg||
mb|p|nt|baldjean: possible grand here|pg||
nt|moen: Grandslam coming up?|pg||
nt|swanson: This preempt is not welcome by South.|pg||
mb|4S|nt|vlad9: want happen here|pg||
mb|p|nt|vlad9: wont|pg||
nt|starkist: seems impossible|pg||
nt|thegarve: would assume 4@S, and a flat board, a chance|pg||
nt|ndemirev: the game has a good play except for @SAQx offside |pg||
nt|thegarve: i would say he won't even make a game try he will just bid it|pg||
nt|starkist: 7 loser|pg||
nt|starkist: vul|pg||
mb|p|nt|h_karluk: lost at both room-tho depends best defense|pg||
nt|mariner1: 2@h Muiderberg showing @h and another suit, less than opening count|pg||
nt|starkist: prime|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: not easy to get to I predict|pg||
nt|moen: no|pg||
nt|baldjean: I agreee; the @d will worry East|pg||
nt|mariner1: in a sense it makes 4@s easier to play as no pesky @d lead (assuming E passed)|pg||
nt|swanson: I use 4@D over 3@C as the red suits and 4@C as spades and one of the red suits.|pg||
pc|s3|nt|mariner1: 4@s also played in N in Open|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: Brod studying opp's convention card|pg||
nt|swanson: I wonder what he expects to find there.|pg||
pc|s4|nt|xenya: 4@H looks quite reasonable on the surface but...|pg||
nt|mariner1: he Closed room score was just changed to off 1|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: ok|pg||
nt|mariner1: the|pg||
nt|xenya: not easy for E to work out S's suit?|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: khokhlov dontread the @c ruff easy|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: he ask the convention card |pg||
nt|vugraphec1: but have the @c in hand|pg||
nt|mariner1: will he cash A@d 1st?|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: maybe |pg||
nt|xenya: he can cash @DA first, hoping to get some signal|pg||
nt|mariner1: if he has @c in hand he will lead it|pg||
nt|h_karluk: Dutch Two opening or off beat Tartan. based on a two-suiter with precisely a fivecard major and a minor suit (fourcard or longer). Unless 2N GF raise not healthy ;for example in ...|pg||
nt|h_karluk: Biedermeijer and AcolPlus. In particular, with a strong hand with an own suit, responder must bid 2NT first as there is no other way to establish a force.|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: he can think Quantin 4 @d and 2 @c |pg||
nt|baldjean: W shows a void there, but he has lots of them|pg||
nt|jaapfr: would be great to find the grand|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|starkist: maybe the 1n was a warning sign|pg||
nt|mariner1: that is a good question|pg||
pc|h6|nt|vlad9: missed ...     I  would  loose a bet if there was betting on this|pg||
nt|ndemirev: i would have too |pg||
nt|eamongall: there is betting on this ... Betfair.com|pg||
nt|starkist: would could have some friendly wagers ;)|pg||
nt|vdoubleu: http://www.usbf.org/|pg||
pc|h4|nt|xenya: well done|pg||
pc|hA|nt|jaapfr: 4@D ace Question?|pg||
nt|moen: well no slam at all :)|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|jaapfr: E to bid 4@H|pg||
nt|baldjean: not sure; perhaps 4@d was exclusion|pg||
nt|moen: looks like splinter too mee|pg||
nt|jaapfr: splinter the specs tell me|pg||
pc|h9|nt|baldjean: but looks like splinter to me too|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|nt|jaapfr: but then sure 4@H by E|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|swanson: Just on club and one heart loser with everything working for declarer.|pg||
nt|swanson: one|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|mariner1: well done|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|h_karluk: good job - clean cut|pg||
nt|vlad9: trump was strange play  could go off in 3sp  agains  4-0  sp|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: Morse thinking|pg||
nt|swanson: He will eventually lead the @CJ - to no avail.|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|swanson: Funny looking @CJ.|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h2|nt|mariner1: well disguised :)|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|glenne: i'am here|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o38|st||md|4S74HK4DK75CQT7652,SAT53HQT962D84CAK,SQ862HAJ7DAJ632C4,SKJ9H853DQT9CJ983|sv|e|nt|royhughes: Well done.  The squeeze would have required pitching the right card from dummy, I think|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: 1SA faible|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphec3: tutto risolto|pg||
nt|vugraphec3: ...pare|pg||
nt|ritong: encore une donne paisible, mais le <SA faible pourrait frapper|pg||
mb|1H|nt|royhughes: But I think it was relatively safe -- hearts 6-2 unlikely after heart king lead|pg||
nt|ritong: non:)|pg||
mb|d|mb|2H!|nt|cumino: Alfredo si arrabbierà, gli aveva fatto un chiamo come una casa|pg||
mb|3C|nt|rialc2: Com'è finita?|pg||
nt|cumino: 1 down|pg||
nt|ritong: et l entame @d accelere l affaire|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphec3: yes|pg||
mb|3D|nt|chmitty: de la main d'est il faut un miracle pour battre|pg||
nt|chmitty: alors plutôt miracle à @c ou à @d ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: pericolo...|pg||
nt|ritong: a @d|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|cumino: Non è una gran mano da 1@C secondo me|pg||
nt|chmitty: suis d'accord ... RVx chez partenaire par exemple|pg||
nt|ritong: le part a ARx et on arrive a bricoler une p romo d atout|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: 6, in realtà, è su 1 impasse su 2 (più o meno)|pg||
nt|chmitty: aussi|pg||
mb|p|pc|h9|pc|hJ|nt|norby: 5 quadri e' al 85per cnto|pg||
nt|vugraphec3: gips direbbe "ne ho giocati di peggio"|pg||
nt|ritong: on a bien dit " miracle":)|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
nt|rialc2: 4@H sono mooooolto lunghi|pg||
nt|norby: non si fanno....|pg||
nt|rialc2: con l'attaco @C poi|pg||
nt|rialc2: chissà se 4@H era cue bid??|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|nt|copeyj: this looks like -1|pg||
nt|chmitty: il va rouler pour l'impasse au valet de @c ?|pg||
nt|chmitty: 13 levées|pg||
pc|dK|nt|chmitty: nan|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d8|nt|reisig: an 8 trick 3N|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|copeyj: 3@C 2@H|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
nt|copeyj: @D dont break|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cK|nt|minnie lee: piccolo @h verso il F?|pg||
nt|k 51 bis: per andare 2down?|pg||
nt|rialc2: cosa stanno giocando in chiusa??|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|fulldire: 3sa|pg||
nt|copeyj: A@h offside|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|nt|cumino: 3SA non è che andranno molto lontano|pg||
pc|s8|nt|rialc2: Attacco @C?|pg||
nt|cumino: picche|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|h8|pc|c2|pc|h2|nt|cumino: tutte nostre circa|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|fulldire: attacco @S appoggiate contro 3sa|pg||
nt|brolucius: When 2@C is normal four-card Stayman, the subsequent leap to 3NT guarantees four spades. Otherwise North would have had no reason to introduce Stayman. So, South would correct to ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: 4@S with 4-4 in the majors. (Except that Wasik does not always show four-card spade support...)|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d7|nt|k 51 bis: 1 down  ora se taglia la @S|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c38|st||md|4S74HK4DK75CQT7652,SAT53HQT962D84CAK,SQ862HAJ7DAJ632C4,SKJ9H853DQT9CJ983|sv|e|nt|sybarra: I would bid 4 @H  |pg||
nt|baldjean: 4@h would have kept the ball rolling|pg||
nt|sybarra: it cant be a suit |pg||
nt|jaapfr: tx Sh:)|pg||
nt|starkist: 3-1 @s might scuttle 4@s|pg||
nt|mariner1: so a push|pg||
nt|mariner1: 3N by S in a competitive auction was an interesting spot,,,,, and no DBL|pg||
nt|glenne: chance for a pickup here for demartino team|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: everybody staring at the board|pg||
mb|p|nt|glenne: hard to imagine auction that ended up- three no for anyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|h_karluk: 9 IMps|pg||
nt|xenya: perhaps he figured out there was little chance to set the contract if S had @Ds?|pg||
mb|2D|an|alerted - Flannery?|nt|mariner1: needs better REDs to make 5@d....|pg||
nt|xenya: but i'm not sure|pg||
nt|sybarra: and if pard bids 4 @S after that, I hit the deck |pg||
nt|thegarve: easier for North to bid game than south to accept|pg||
nt|thegarve: that opening bid will prevent an ideas of getting to 6@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|vlad9: right but  W might not have a chance to take the lead  to play a trump|pg||
nt|glenne: flannery opening by wolff..one of the few conventions they play|pg||
mb|2H|nt|baldjean: yes; you risk nothing by bidding 4@h|pg||
nt|moen: many players dont cuebid with single or void in partners opening suit|pg||
nt|swanson: Flannery 2@D will keep N-S out of the auction (unless they use a double to show a diamond overcall).|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: E DBL is negative type all suits showing minors here|pg||
nt|sybarra: except pard opened 1 @H |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: I sure would have DBL here with N to show @d|pg||
pc|c7|nt|sybarra: maybe was afraid it now sounded like preference support (but should not be)|pg||
nt|ndemirev: 2nt should be limit+ in H |pg||
nt|mariner1: maybe they play some other sequence|pg||
nt|glenne: will need to guess spades to make two hearts|pg||
pc|cK|nt|vlad9: yes in common use in bulgaria|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ndemirev: i guess with the natural 2nt they start with 2@C |pg||
nt|swanson: Yes, one would if that it what it shows, but many use the double to show a minimum notrump overcall.|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|mariner1: many only play neg dbl for majors however they can be played showing/implying all unbid suits|pg||
nt|mariner1: if this is final contract will S lead major or minor black suit?|pg||
nt|xenya: spades, i'm sure|pg||
nt|baldjean: I actually like nt bids for cue in trumps. a device I play with my regular partner|pg||
pc|h2|nt|sybarra: another comparison the e/w pair here will be amazed at |pg||
nt|thegarve: i commentated on Russia v Bulgaria in the first match and both sides played well|pg||
pc|h7|nt|jaapfr: monaco seems to run away with score|pg||
pc|h8|nt|ndemirev: tough to see a setting play from west's hand |pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|mariner1: well moot point now.... push is expected|pg||
nt|starkist: in polish?|pg||
nt|vlad9: 2cl =  tfer  for di in their methods, 2sp is invitational+ balanced i think|pg||
nt|glenne: yes|pg||
pc|c2|nt|xenya: push? can't it be made?|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: cant win this |pg||
nt|mariner1: has 2@d and 1@h losers|pg||
nt|h_karluk: so flat?|pg||
nt|mariner1: yep push|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: any line can win this contract |pg||
nt|xenya: ah -- 2 diamond losers -- i overlooked that tiny 10 :)|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: even if the defense is sleeping|pg||
nt|mariner1: no chance except defense error to make|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: and a big big error|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: i dont see Marc duck y|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: the K @h :0|pg||
nt|xenya: in spite of the result, i'm quite impressed by both rooms reaching this contract|pg||
nt|sybarra: agree, its a great system as long as both pards on same wave length...  |pg||
pc|cA|nt|glenne: should get spades right now|pg||
nt|swanson: Spades will be guessed with the club distribution known.|pg||
nt|mariner1: the @c situation may give W the info to get @s right|pg||
nt|mariner1: well we all agree :)|pg||
nt|swanson: Morse could make all three of us look bad now by going the other way in spades.|pg||
nt|glenne: that wouldn't upset me too much...lol|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|mariner1: a slam dunk for the commentator's curse :)|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|d2|nt|jaapfr: down 1 with good defense|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
nt|ndemirev: there is a problem when you want to side the nt from S |pg||
pc|s7|nt|moen: yes cant make now|pg||
pc|s3|nt|mariner1: well S removes the problem|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: well it s not a very bad contract anyway|pg||
pc|h3|nt|glenne: sutherlin just made dan a big favorite to guess spades here/...|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://www.usbf.org/index.php?option=com_vugraphs&event=USSBC2008 |pg||
nt|swanson: It was almost impossible for the defense to give declarer a problem on this hand.|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|h9|pc|d3|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o39|st||md|1SQJ953HJD972CQJ64,SAK4HAK853D84CK53,S862HT9762D63CT92,ST7HQ4DAKQJT5CA87|sv|b|nt|rialc2: @H 3-3|pg||
nt|fulldire: cio accontentiamo di 2|pg||
mb|p|nt|fulldire: imps|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|rialc2: un bel 2@S con la 7ma.., meglio così|pg||
nt|cumino: di la 2@s tutti passano. Qui 2SA a compagno già passato. Mah|pg||
nt|royhughes: Bocci prefers double to overcalling on a moderate suit|pg||
mb|p|nt|fulldire: una volta ci si apriva sempre senza stupirsi con la settima bucata in zona contro prima... |pg||
nt|copeyj: who can blame him|pg||
mb|3S|nt|brolucius: Some would overcall 2@H instead of doubling.|pg||
mb|p|nt|cumino: E l'altro passo. A ri mah|pg||
nt|pitiful: only those who like -1100|pg||
nt|chmitty: 2@s : j'ai 3@s et un arrêt à @h sans doute (sinon xx pour transférer l'entame en Nord)|pg||
mb|3N|nt|me argent: le compte mencourage de dire 3@Cs avec fit partial a @H|pg||
mb|p|nt|me argent: VOILA|pg||
mb|6N|nt|pitiful: some might pass though|pg||
nt|royhughes: Did Bocci bid 2@d?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Has David Burn changed his ID to 'pitiful'? |pg||
nt|vugraphecc: 2c alerted|pg||
nt|pitiful: he is too good a player for that|pg||
nt|royhughes: So EW showed artificial methods here|pg||
nt|ritong: salut joseph  le fait que les adversaires ont un fit certain encourage aussi a se bagarrer|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphecc: yes|pg||
nt|royhughes: 2@c must have been some kind of semi-positive|pg||
nt|chmitty: 2@s chutait sans doute donc c'est mieux comme ça|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|juan lukas: là le déclarant devrait perdre 2@C 1@S 1@h 1@d |pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|c39|st||md|1SQJ953HJD972CQJ64,SAK4HAK853D84CK53,S862HT9762D63CT92,ST7HQ4DAKQJT5CA87|sv|b|nt|mariner1: nice slam here makes 7 too|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: 13 top tricks.  I think Wolff-Morse will bid this grand.|pg||
mb|1H|nt|mariner1: interesting part score battle here|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|mariner1: I agree it is biddable,,, I like the start here better|pg||
mb|2S|nt|vlad9: right  but u have other advanteges - u can introduce suits freely without creating a forcing sequence|pg||
nt|swanson: East needs to use Blackwood and its all there.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ndemirev: it looks like EW are playing weak NT and W was preparing for a a transfer |pg||
nt|vlad9: or when forcing to introduce minor suits cheply|pg||
nt|mariner1: 2@s just to show extras|pg||
mb|4N|nt|vugraphec1: i like 2 nt here|pg||
mb|p|nt|thegarve: e/w are playing carotti @c 1@c = 16+ or 11-13 bal|pg||
nt|starkist: tempting to move, too square|pg||
nt|starkist: k@c is not great either|pg||
nt|ndemirev: so the 1D must be some sort of negative |pg||
nt|vlad9: what about  3nt?|pg||
nt|thegarve: yes|pg||
mb|5H|nt|mariner1: yes if you call 2N is the spot|pg||
nt|jaapfr: who dares to pass the X:)?|pg||
nt|thegarve: thsi should go all out and is likely to go squezze home|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: DD yes|pg||
nt|sybarra: not me |pg||
nt|moen: not me |pg||
nt|jaapfr: not me|pg||
nt|sybarra: too scary at the 2 level even with 5 @H,  I have NO defense |pg||
nt|starkist: wow, heading there|pg||
mb|5N|nt|swanson: I wonder if there is any convusion over what trumps are for this ask?|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: confusion|pg||
mb|6S|nt|xenya: in CR, S bid 3@C over W's 2@S -- looks very dubious to me|pg||
nt|jaapfr: only if pd tells me i have AKAA lol|pg||
nt|moen: and worse is you have a @s fit|pg||
nt|sybarra: that too Fred  |pg||
nt|sybarra: and maybe we push them up a level or so |pg||
nt|starkist: very nice|pg||
mb|p|nt|vlad9: betfair   I am coming|pg||
nt|thegarve: pushy but has fair chances, they did well|pg||
nt|ndemirev: there is a good chance now |pg||
nt|starkist: hard to find @d lead|pg||
mb|7N|nt|xenya: E's 2@S of course|pg||
nt|h_karluk: 3 aces and crucial tenaces unfavorably placed|pg||
nt|mariner1: yes 3@c was sticking his neck out|pg||
nt|mariner1: very nice|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: yikes |pg||
nt|thegarve: Betfair was started and cinceived by an English Bridge playera a friend of mine|pg||
nt|swanson: Wolff assumed diamond trumps (or none), or maybe they don't use RKC at all.|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: lovely lead:)|pg||
nt|starkist: @c up @s back|pg||
nt|thegarve: needed a @d lead|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: playing straight Blackwood |pg||
nt|swanson: Blackwood is an excellent convention, even if it is occasionaly used when it shouldn't be.|pg||
nt|glenne: yes, straight blackwood|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: waiting for the lead|pg||
nt|swanson: Can't you claim for them?|pg||
nt|mariner1: lead will take longer than the play|pg||
pc|s3|nt|xenya: so if you have to bid with S's hand, 2N would be my choice too|pg||
nt|mariner1: s running out of plays here|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|o40|st||md|2SQ64HAQJ94DAK97C2,SAKT9532HT6DCQ854,SJ7H8DQJ653CJT763,S8HK7532DT842CAK9|sv|o|nt|fulldire: mi sa che non l'ha sbloccato davvero visto il risultato|pg||
nt|minnie lee: purtropo non l'ha sblocato|pg||
nt|rialc2: .. era lo stesso|pg||
nt|cumino: down di la, l'han messo a indovinare. el controgioco|pg||
mb|4S|nt|brolucius: Running the @SJ was a safety play in the suit.|pg||
mb|p|nt|royhughes: Yes, I think he could have managed if they were 4-1|pg||
nt|royhughes: 2@d must show majors here|pg||
nt|pitiful: north will probably bid 3@s|pg||
nt|royhughes: or maybe 4|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|chmitty: c'est ce qu'on appelle un 2@s "solide"|pg||
pc|h8|nt|royhughes: No, pitiful was right|pg||
nt|pitiful: maybe |pg||
nt|brolucius: You can afford to be a bit more adventurous when showing a major two-suiter, rather than 2NT to show a minor two-suiter, because you will have to play only at the two-level.|pg||
nt|yvesj49: ça gagne d'ailleurs lol|pg||
pc|h2|nt|brolucius: 3@S is pre-emptive. North could cue-bid in clubs to show a genuine raise in one suit or another. |pg||
pc|hJ|nt|pitiful: 26 points and no game|pg||
nt|royhughes: It's hard to quit with Duboin's hand|pg||
nt|yvesj49: bizarre de contrer en réveil ..........|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|me argent: tres|pg||
pc|dK|nt|figb_rama: nel nostro girone la Lettonia è avanti di 26 con Israele, e l'Islanda +17 sull'Olanda|pg||
nt|royhughes: And defending doubled is not safe|pg||
nt|yvesj49: avec un 7222|pg||
pc|s2|nt|yvesj49: hey joe|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
nt|pitiful: good pass by west|pg||
nt|pitiful: still going off though|pg||
pc|sA|nt|royhughes: Yes, but 3@s might have made, so EW did ok, I think|pg||
nt|yvesj49: 2 de chute en principe|pg||
nt|yvesj49: 3C 2K 1T|pg||
nt|yvesj49: flanc facile|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg||
nt|me argent: en sais ou en veut aller pas raison de demander lopinon de partner il peut avoir un mauvais opinon|pg||
pc|sK|nt|figb_rama: Ora ITA 132, CEC 126, FIN 125, ISL 123, OLA 122, ISR 115, DAN 108, GRE 104|pg||
nt|rialc2: peccato 4@S si fanno|pg||
nt|fulldire: difficile da chiamare questo 4@S|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|cumino: questa perdiamo credo|pg||
nt|fulldire: utilizzando il gadget di 2sa fit uarto anzichè 2@C|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s6|pg||
nt|reisig: 3@s looks cold|pg||
nt|yvesj49: tu réveilles par 3C joe ?|pg||
nt|me argent: comme 5@Cs|pg||
pc|hT|nt|caruga: credo sia anche l'apertura di 1 fiori (giocano quadri forte) che ha creato difficoltà di valutazione|pg||
pc|d3|nt|yvesj49: joey*|pg||
pc|h3|nt|rialc2: Se il 2@S libero di Sementa mostra mano minima (?) va bene, ma se era costruttivo allora|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|royhughes: I think so|pg||
nt|juan lukas: 200 mais les NS gagnaient une partielle a @s |pg||
nt|me argent: 4@Cs|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|fulldire: forse ovest avrebbe chiamato manche|pg||
nt|figb_rama: al nono postom ultimo per la qualificazione, al momento 3 squadre TUR, CRO e ING a 103|pg||
pc|s3|nt|brolucius: East knew, from North's jump to 3@S, that West held only two spades. It was therefore much too dangerous to choose to defend.|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d8|pg||
nt|me argent: apres leX|pg||
pc|d7|nt|chmitty: EN fait Zim a voulu exprimer une main forte avec des @h|pg||
nt|chmitty: plus forte que le réveil à 3@h|pg||
nt|yvesj49: forte si on veut|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|s5|pc|d6|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c40|st||md|2SQ64HAQJ94DAK97C2,SAKT9532HT6DCQ854,SJ7H8DQJ653CJT763,S8HK7532DT842CAK9|sv|o|nt|mariner1: so an interesting push|pg||
nt|ritong: a pretty 4@s here|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes|pg||
nt|h_karluk: a good bridge player should always carry subway tickets with him.|pg||
nt|baldjean: don't understand why he went that way. did he actually hope to set up a trick in @d?|pg||
nt|mariner1: unfortunate 4@s here with a @h lead|pg||
mb|4S|nt|mariner1: yes nice 4@s|pg||
nt|sybarra: strange also,  had a imp in his pocket and he lost it |pg||
nt|moen: i guess a miss fromoprator|pg||
nt|sybarra: michaels bid now?|pg||
nt|eamongall: I believe Team Ireland are limited to 1 pint a night or can stockpile up to maximum of 3 pints for a night before sitout |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|xenya: nice result for the French in CR|pg||
nt|ritong: hmm|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: but now hard to call for EW|pg||
nt|ritong: bad start for EW|pg||
nt|moen: from operator|pg||
nt|eamongall: so sitting out in morning so maybe 3 pints tonight |pg||
nt|vlad9: so  5 or 7 imps depending on N discard|pg||
nt|swanson: Will South come it - I think so.|pg||
mb|d|nt|thegarve: excelent result for n/s ireland|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: yes the @h are odds on to be in E and S|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|nt|sybarra: suggested by spec "maybe he thought of 6-card overcall and Kx@d"|pg||
nt|sybarra: it has to be East thinking |pg||
mb|5D|nt|mariner1: wow W is very conservative here|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: good opening of 1nt by JC Q|pg||
nt|h_karluk: either 12-14 or S committed he has qt|pg||
nt|jaapfr: where is this going to end??|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: north/east are screenmates|pg||
nt|sybarra: Houston we have landed,  is my guess |pg||
nt|mariner1: well this stops the @H lead :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: south has a powerfuk hand, a strong NT indeed|pg||
mb|d|nt|vlad9: lucky make in the other room with clubs blocked|pg||
nt|ndemirev: in the open room S valued his hand as full opener and it worked|pg||
nt|swanson: North should sit I think, but this is a difficult situation for every partnership.  What to do with these hands (North and SOuth both).|pg||
nt|mariner1: so EW will get some more here|pg||
nt|swanson: Over 4@S.|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: great houston|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: powerful*, sorry!|pg||
nt|h_karluk: by jove! |pg||
nt|mariner1: agreed S does have an interesting 1N and that bid protects his Kx too|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes and 2 K for receved the lead|pg||
nt|mariner1: E should fire back a small @h|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: he could pass on the transfert :) lol |pg||
nt|xenya: i think it's hard to blame W for being passive here -- credit goes to Quantin for opening 1N|pg||
nt|sybarra: wow!|pg||
mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s7|nt|ndemirev: looks like -2 |pg||
pc|s8|nt|jaapfr: funny the good interrupting bidding of NS helped opps with 26 hcp to avoid unmakeble games|pg||
nt|swanson: Onstott did very well to pass 4@S at the other table.|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/08Pau/Information.htm  -  Tournament site with results links|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|h2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s5|pc|dQ|pc|h3|nt|xenya: the contract won't be a success, but the score will|pg||
nt|h_karluk: In my book only 17 balanced HCP "strong" -even still questionable if available to produce tricks before defenders cash their own tricks or not.|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|h8|nt|mariner1: S just wants to be sure EW do not score their trumps seperately|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pg||
nt|jaapfr: very good by greece|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hT|nt|moen: goodresult for greece here|pg||
pc|c3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|nt|jaapfr: 9 imps recovery|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|xenya: well E complies -- now it looks like 8 tricks after all|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|d2|nt|mariner1: oops|pg||
nt|swanson: 4 IMPs is not a serious loss and there was a lot to gain if N-S had a making 5-level contract.|pg||
nt|glenne: down to on another club here i think|pg||
nt|mariner1: yes the @d return should cost a trick|pg||
nt|mariner1: so only 2 imps now|pg||
pc|d7|nt|glenne: no four imps|pg||
pc|s2|nt|swanson: There was no reason for declarer to have led a club (instead of ruffing a heart in dummy).|pg||
nt|glenne: -100 and -50|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s3|pc|d5|nt|mariner1: oh right it adds :)|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d9|mc|10|pg||
qx|o41|st||md|3SKQJT6H3DQ962C875,S74H9865DJT8CT642,S83HAQJT74DAK5CQ3,SA952HK2D743CAKJ9|sv|e|nt|royhughes: Taking a save with 26 high is well done|pg||
nt|pitiful: anybody open as south?|pg||
nt|chmitty: on fait 10 levées en face de Axx à @h dans un désert quand même|pg||
nt|juan lukas: mais sa main est elle si forte que cela ? 7222 avec des @c qui bloquent |pg||
mb|1H|nt|me argent: il avait le jeu mais pas autant que ca|pg||
mb|d|nt|royhughes: Most do nowadays|pg||
mb|1S|nt|royhughes: I would, with the good spots|pg||
nt|chmitty: je pense que ça se discute :)|pg||
nt|yvesj49: mouais|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: We must congratulate the players on a very brisk rate of play. 10 boards in one hour.|pg||
mb|3H|nt|rialc2: mi sa che di là la chiamano|pg||
nt|royhughes: Yes, it has been snappy|pg||
nt|chmitty: disons qu'il a pris la vision optimiste|pg||
mb|p|nt|yvesj49: comme delarue lol|pg||
mb|p|nt|royhughes: This may be a complicated 4@h coming up|pg||
nt|chmitty: mais ça n'est pas si critiquable|pg||
mb|p|nt|juan lukas: certes mais si le partenaire a Axx a @h dans un desert il va dire 3@h et ca ne nous avancera guere |pg||
nt|yvesj49: 3T forcing ?|pg||
pc|cA|nt|rialc2: cosa dirà adesso Sementa?|pg||
pc|c5|nt|caruga: 3 picche?|pg||
pc|c4|nt|yvesj49: ça a l'air|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|cK|nt|brolucius: West is good for his bidding so far, so has an easy raise to 4@H.|pg||
pc|c7|nt|royhughes: I wonder if the double of 2@d showed hearts|pg||
pc|c2|nt|rialc2: mi sembra giusto|pg||
nt|cumino: Forse 1SA subito non era sbagliato|pg||
nt|pitiful: bocci gives duboin some room but he has plenty for what he has shown|pg||
nt|royhughes: The defense has 3 obvious tricks|pg||
nt|yvesj49: sans espoir .........|pg||
nt|chmitty: l'absence du valet de @c dans la ligne va se faire cruellement sentir|pg||
nt|me argent: cest son annee donc je comprend pourquoi il est optimist|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|fulldire: non l'hanno chiamata manche ma hanno fatto giocare 3sa ad Alfredo|pg||
nt|k 51 bis: indovinando tutto si fanno|pg||
nt|chmitty: il va prendre l'entame @d du mort|pg||
nt|chmitty: pour jouer @c directement : seule chance|pg||
nt|yvesj49: certes mais ça suffira pas|pg||
nt|chmitty: as de @c second placé|pg||
nt|yvesj49: ou v 1O secs|pg||
nt|yvesj49: et bonne devine|pg||
nt|chmitty: si on prend en main pour jouer @h c'est à peu près à 0 % donc il faut "rouler"|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|fulldire: @s 10 si puo' giocare vista la licita|pg||
nt|chmitty: et ça se terminera à 3 de chute normalement|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c6|nt|chmitty: bien joué|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|s8|nt|rialc2: banale vero Carlo ? 2@S, 4@C, 2H e 1@D. .... solo che giocherà @D di mano|pg||
pc|sA|nt|fulldire: @C 10|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s2|nt|brolucius: East's double (for most partnerships) is a competitive double, showing the black suits and heart tolerance. It tends to show quite a few points, too. |pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|nt|chmitty: non deux de chute pourquoi je dis 3 ?|pg||
nt|yvesj49: t'as un parent portugais ? lol|pg||
nt|mgchat: PARCEQUE TU ES MECHANT ))))|pg||
nt|chmitty: mon nom est typiquement portugais en effet|pg||
nt|yvesj49: lolll|pg||
nt|mgchat: lol|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|nt|yvesj49: il charge lol|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hT|nt|pitiful: i think most nowdays just focus on @s rather than both black suits david|pg||
nt|pitiful: here Bocchi had enough to correct @s|pg||
nt|royhughes: I guess declarer will try clubs before spades here|pg||
nt|reisig: Mostly ...my X= I think I want to bid ...but as always ..no idea what to bid|pg||
nt|royhughes: If declarer plays a 3rd heart and then clubs, can South beat him by discarding?|pg||
nt|royhughes: GIB says one down, I'm being told|pg||
nt|royhughes: If declarer plays heart and a heart, I think South must play a club|pg||
pc|hK|pc|sJ|pc|h6|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c41|st||md|3SKQJT6H3DQ962C875,S74H9865DJT8CT642,S83HAQJT74DAK5CQ3,SA952HK2D743CAKJ9|sv|e|nt|xenya: or 9|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: 9|pg||
nt|mariner1: so we have a 2 imp here|pg||
nt|mariner1: making 3N in Closed was well done here|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: the score is more clear now ....|pg||
nt|h_karluk: breakpoint not came yet. seems we have to wait till board  16.|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|nt|ritong: this hand seems to be very significant about new tendencies|pg||
nt|jaapfr: we used 80 minutes for half of boards so pretty slow|pg||
mb|1S|nt|mariner1: yes another Muiderberg showing @h and another suit less than opening count...... here 4 pts|pg||
nt|ritong: tell any french expert ten years ago this is a 2@h opening for any reason, he would laugh out loudly|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes this openning are more frequent than 2 weak major , and more efficasse i think|pg||
nt|ritong: but times, they are a changing, u know|pg||
nt|thegarve: now will Bocchi and co be in a good mood after the football, or will the country famous for believing in conspiracy theories be up in arms?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|baldjean: sorry, I missed that board. "Mummy, can you help us opening this bottle?"|pg||
nt|sybarra: e/w have to be a a little careful here|pg||
nt|sybarra: or a lot careful |pg||
mb|p|nt|h_karluk: This convention is named after the Dutch village Muiderberg, the residence of the designers of this two-level opening (Onno Janssens and Willem Boegem).|pg||
nt|ndemirev: this board will like get pushed in 3nd going down |pg||
nt|ndemirev: *likely |pg||
nt|starkist: frisky 2@d|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: probably best its not beer |pg||
nt|mariner1: same auction both rooms|pg||
pc|cK|nt|mariner1: Muiderberg does have a certain self destructive tendency to it,,,,,, sometimes directed at self|pg||
pc|c5|nt|xenya: E's somewhat bold 2N saves the day|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: curious to lead @c and not @s|pg||
nt|mariner1: I like the 2N with both majors stopped|pg||
nt|mariner1: yes and this lead should allow it..... a @s woulf have made it difficult to make|pg||
nt|mariner1: would even|pg||
nt|moen: yes 4@h is far from laydown|pg||
nt|vlad9: kovachev likes bidding on 5 cards suits lead directionally when opps are in FG  - I think this is too dangerous but his philosophy deffers|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
nt|sybarra: X,  inspired by last hand?|pg||
nt|baldjean: orange juice :) at 6 years they are a bit too young for beer|pg||
nt|sybarra: yes :)  my point |pg||
nt|mariner1: all roads lead to 3@h making 3 in seems.......|pg||
pc|d7|nt|jaapfr: but it can be made 4@H esp knowing after the X so my bet is he makes|pg||
nt|moen: im for down 1|pg||
nt|jaapfr: losing 1 @S 1@H 1@D|pg||
nt|jaapfr: you pessimist me optimist|pg||
nt|sybarra: has to guess the @S |pg||
nt|moen: :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: no trouble after 1@D who the A|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|h_karluk: normally : pass-pass- 1@s etc wld better|pg||
nt|mariner1: now he has time to set up and get to the @d|pg||
nt|vlad9: what are they heading for now?|pg||
nt|starkist: downtown|pg||
pc|h3|nt|vlad9: Irish  beer there?:)|pg||
nt|starkist: yes and only 50 a trick|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|thegarve: fake irish bars every where|pg||
nt|ndemirev: double dummy S lead might get it down 3 |pg||
nt|starkist: hard to stay out of game|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|nt|jaapfr: ok specs bets on on down or make???|pg||
pc|c7|pc|h6|pg||
nt|baldjean: down now. 2 rounds of trump first|pg||
nt|mariner1: E should cash and next|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|mariner1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch many vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't, ...|pg||
nt|mariner1: Open one browser window per table|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|baldjean: then the @c can be safely plaed because south will be endplayed when trumping|pg||
pc|sA|nt|baldjean: played*|pg||
nt|sybarra: much better plan Jeanine|pg||
pc|s6|nt|h_karluk: still distance to hold up|pg||
nt|mariner1: http://tinyurl.com/5tung5-  correct for running scores in all matches|pg||
nt|mariner1: has his 9 now |pg||
nt|vugraphec1: yes|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: 10 easy|pg||
nt|sybarra: maybe not so easy at the table |pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
nt|thegarve: 1@S 3@c - invitational would be my call|pg||
pc|s2|nt|baldjean: yes, always easy for us commentators|pg||
nt|jaapfr: if we think about Monaco we think of royal family very small very expensive and only a lot of rich old retired people:) lol|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg||
nt|jaapfr: so a lot of time to play bridge|pg||
nt|moen: i think of the Casino|pg||
nt|baldjean: well, not all of them are old. Boris Becker lives there too|pg||
nt|jaapfr: lives??|pg||
nt|jaapfr: fiscal reasons i suppose|pg||
nt|baldjean: well, let's say it is his official home lol|pg||
nt|thegarve: especially in a limited system|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o42|st||md|4SKJ95H98DJT5CAQT3,S74HAKJT42D83C875,SQ8632H3DQ9742C92,SATHQ765DAK6CKJ64|sv|b|nt|fulldire: linea di gioco giusta ma sfortunata cmq|pg||
nt|reisig: Is scotty ever wrong?  ...YES ...once ..he said he was wrong (and that was wrong) :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Worth watching the session, just for that one moment.|pg||
nt|yvesj49: mieux vaut éviter le chelem|pg||
mb|1N|nt|yvesj49: ça va pas être si facile|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: allora era meglio lisciare il @S|pg||
nt|copeyj: Wasik has rather a good hand when his partner opens 1@H|pg||
nt|yvesj49: voyons|pg||
nt|me argent: felix pourquoi ladvertisement en anglais?|pg||
mb|4D!|nt|cumino: 3SA anche di la.|pg||
nt|copeyj: good hand for keycard|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 6NT is the best slam here|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 6@H sometimes fails, 6NT will not|pg||
nt|reisig: we'll settle for 5@h|pg||
nt|reisig: 6@h ..sorry|pg||
nt|chmitty: Est n'a pas vraiment une main de chelem sur un 2 faible|pg||
mb|p|nt|yvesj49: 4T nomme ta couleur|pg||
mb|4H|nt|katar: altalenante il riusultato ma sempr ein vantaggio noi :)|pg||
nt|fulldire: si liciare il J di @S all'inizio cmq|pg||
nt|rialc2: chissà che si spingano a 6@C!!|pg||
nt|yvesj49: ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|yvesj49: demande de controle apparamment|pg||
nt|chmitty: c'est "nomme la couleur en texas" me dit-on|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphec3: non sembrano tipi aggressivi|pg||
nt|cumino: di la lisciato, e ha dalla licita buone informazioni, purtroppo|pg||
nt|juan lukas: ou alors 4@h = @s |pg||
mb|p|pc|h9|nt|Walddk2: In real life you will not get to NT when you have a 5-4 fit in a major|pg||
nt|chmitty: pour garder le coup joué de la main forte|pg||
nt|yvesj49: ha ok|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|juan lukas: et eviter de se faire couper un @d a l'entame :)|pg||
nt|chmitty: "on" c'est Edouard Beauvillain que nous saluons bien bas|pg||
pc|h3|nt|Walddk2: Right Richie|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|rialc2: questi le @C non le hanno nemmeno trovate ...|pg||
nt|cumino: Di la è andata 1@S 1SA e Alfredo 2@C che significa @C e @H|pg||
nt|minnie lee: per fortuna:)|pg||
nt|rialc2: ahiaaa|pg||
pc|hA|pc|c2|nt|me argent: et louviture de 2@Ds netait pas francais standard|pg||
pc|h6|nt|brolucius: South will now be put off spades as a denomination. His partner's bidding suggests that a void spade is possible.|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|reisig: best to avoid 7 anythiing|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d7|nt|Walddk2: Many specs think it's easy to get to 6NT and not 6@H. I do not agree. How will any of them know that @CQ is a golden card for NT?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Only double dummy can you know|pg||
nt|brolucius: Very difficult to reach 6NT with any certainty, it seems. |pg||
nt|chmitty: APrès les 10 premières donnes, la France est 5ème de sa poule car tous les autres résultats sont très équilibrés|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer should play ace on the first round of trumps, to pick up J-10-x-x with West.|pg||
nt|royhughes: If North's hearts were KJxxx, 6N would be a lot better|pg||
pc|sA|nt|Walddk2: running scores: http://tinyurl.com/3ux8fk|pg||
nt|brolucius: I was speaking before a trump was led, of course.|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|h2|pc|d4|pg||
nt|cumino: Mi sa che le fa 3SA di là se non si addormenta|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c42|st||md|4SKJ95H98DJT5CAQT3,S74HAKJT42D83C875,SQ8632H3DQ9742C92,SATHQ765DAK6CKJ64|sv|b|nt|mariner1: nice slam here....... tough to bid|pg||
mb|1N|nt|ritong: very|pg||
nt|starkist: and the lie of the cards|pg||
nt|thegarve: if 2@C was GF you cannot stop, if not 3@C would have been enough|pg||
nt|mariner1: needs to do some elimination here to make this|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|an|transfer|nt|sybarra: slam time again... |pg||
nt|baldjean: nice slam here. grand without @c lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: only needs one of the majors to behave so its a reasonable prospect|pg||
mb|4H|nt|jaapfr: 6@H 6@S 6NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|vlad9: too much  bulgarians in open |pg||
nt|eamongall: bulgaria owed 7 imps for board 9 ... open room has no score |pg||
nt|vlad9: too much bulgarian bidding   sry|pg||
nt|thegarve: tis hard to avoid 6@s|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|mariner1: of course @s has to do a LOT of BEHAVING :)|pg||
nt|ritong: 3NT = i do not like @hs|pg||
nt|mariner1: balanced 20 opposite 9 balanced is hard to think slam|pg||
nt|ritong: frankly rob, would you like to be in it?|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: if mark have say 3@h , (agree the @h), maybee JCQ will prospect it , but not here  |pg||
nt|mariner1: just like Roland :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 6@H easiest|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 6@S probl -1|pg||
nt|sybarra: 3 @s= shortness,  didnt improve S hand but pushes on |pg||
nt|moen: yes N pitch a @s early |pg||
nt|baldjean: but of course in a grand East would lead the ace|pg||
nt|swanson: The defense has no real chance here because declarer will be able to strip diamonds and spades before clubs are led.|pg||
nt|mariner1: ok win pull trumps,,,,, play and ruff @d and play A and a @s......|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ritong: aha|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Here is a cute story|pg||
nt|ndemirev: We cannot provide mixed language commentary in the same room because the commentators will not be able to undersand each other |pg||
nt|thegarve: not stopping now|pg||
nt|starkist: not that great a hand for weak two in @s, worth a try at best|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Sementa (West) was declarer in 6@S, doubled by South for the lead|pg||
nt|thegarve: was 4H a cue or a response to RKB?|pg||
nt|Walddk10: What did North lead?|pg||
nt|Walddk10: A heart obviously|pg||
nt|ndemirev: ne mojem da predostavim komentar na razlichni ezitsi v edna zala zashtoto komentatorite niama da mogat da se razbirat |pg||
nt|Walddk10: More likely that partner would be void in hearts, right?|pg||
nt|Walddk10: You see what happened next?|pg||
nt|Walddk10: The diamond layout was an open book for declarer|pg||
nt|Walddk10: So he finessed dummy's 7 later|pg||
nt|starkist: yep|pg||
nt|thegarve: nice|pg||
pc|d7|nt|thegarve: open book|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|h5|nt|sybarra: 6 @H places the contract,  2 with void  |pg||
nt|jaapfr: i like vroustis not to introduce his @S   is wise|pg||
nt|moen: 2 keycards and the queen and void in @s|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|sybarra: ask how many rounds of trumps do I need and claim |pg||
nt|starkist: missed chance to x 5@d ;)|pg||
pc|d4|pc|h6|nt|mariner1: admittedly I would miss this one|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Operator, please look at your screen|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|Walddk10: What if you pull 6@SX to 6NT?|pg||
nt|thegarve: could be worried that 5dxx was on the agenda, east is undisclosed|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Do you have enough entries to get diamonds right?|pg||
nt|eamongall: operator got some undoing |pg||
nt|starkist: I know|pg||
nt|Walddk10: what a shame|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Operator, please undo|pg||
pc|d8|nt|sybarra: well maybe best not |pg||
nt|Walddk10: pass after 5@H|pg||
nt|vlad9: kovachev is making a laitner  double to ruff  but isporski has to guess which suit K is ruffing|pg||
pc|d2|nt|Walddk10: Undo 4 times please|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Now 5|pg||
nt|starkist: and won't guess it is @d with that hand|pg||
pc|dK|nt|eamongall: The Walds are growing like rabbits ...used to be 6 Walddks now there is 10 of them |pg||
nt|Walddk10: No, 14|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|starkist: 6n wow nice|pg||
nt|thegarve: 6@S played by East in the other room hence no double, good methods made the strong hand the declarer|pg||
pc|d6|nt|thegarve: very well done, he evaluated the 4@H cue as k@h|pg||
nt|eamongall: 14 .. my mother had 13 galligans |pg||
pc|dT|nt|sybarra: and an imp to Monaco |pg||
pc|h2|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s4|nt|starkist: later on the footies is italy vs. walds|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Double of 6NT is an insult|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Hanlon has the entries he needs for 4 diamond tricks|pg||
nt|vlad9: unfortunately  here too  the di  position will be open book for declarer  after the double of 6 sp  and the he lead|pg||
nt|thegarve: they deserve to make this slam|pg||
pc|s2|nt|Walddk10: Now he has another entry|pg||
nt|Walddk10: He will surely get this right|pg||
nt|vlad9: even easier now|pg||
nt|starkist: another great story hand|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
nt|h_karluk: next board pls|pg||
pc|sT|nt|starkist: remember when we used to watch tv?|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c2|nt|Walddk10: Yes, I did last night|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Did the dump TV in Canada?|pg||
nt|Walddk10: *they|pg||
nt|starkist: room for all 14 of you on the couch?|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|c7|mc|10|pg||
qx|o43|st||md|1ST9532HT765DT86C5,SAQ6HQ82DA75CQ974,S7HK4DK9432CAKT63,SKJ84HAJ93DQJCJ82|sv|o|nt|cumino: Infatti le ha fatte|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: bravo Cumino belle notizie ci dai|pg||
nt|chmitty: On rappelle que les 9 premiers sont qualifiés pour la deuxième phase|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|cumino: Alfredo e Lorenzo avevano la convenzione boomerang in questo caso|pg||
nt|juan lukas: 3SA ici avec les @h 44 |pg||
mb|p|nt|me argent: a mon age je ne rappelle rien pierre|pg||
nt|chmitty: lol :)|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|pitiful: 2@c gazzilli|pg||
mb|p|nt|rialc2: questi fanno le sottoaperture col mazzo e poi aprono con la muffa. Non è che le loro aperture partono da 8/9?|pg||
mb|p|nt|pitiful: 2@d FG if partner has 16+ I think|pg||
nt|juan lukas: pour l'instant les donnes ne sont pas trop mouvementées mais c'est dans le petit temps qu'on reconnait les fins barreurs :)|pg||
nt|chmitty: oui les donnes de ce match sont assez plates. C'est bien de grapiller 19 Imps dans ce contexte|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d6|nt|rialc2: Il tutto sta prendendo una brutta piega. anche questa mano è pericolosa..|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|minnie lee: vulnerabile mi sembra un po legero 3@c|pg||
nt|Walddk2: First 9 from both groups qualify for the second round-robin stage. Then they start from scratch with 17 matches of 20 boards. No carryover. 20 teams head home after the first week|pg||
nt|royhughes: 2@h 3+  hearts?|pg||
pc|s4|nt|vugraphecc: y|pg||
nt|vugraphecc: 2p relais, 2nt bal |pg||
nt|vugraphecc: 2sp|pg||
nt|chmitty: les français excellent en général dans cet exercice|pg||
pc|s9|nt|rialc2: Adesso: se taglia la @C e poi A di @S e @S si prenderà il taglio ma saranno tutte sue|pg||
nt|fulldire: ma sta al morto o in mano ? è finita la presa?|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
nt|royhughes: A great job by our operator, Robin|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No finals, just another complete round-robin for gold, silver and bronze|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|nt|fulldire: meglio al morto !!|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|k 51 bis: trovata la strada x 1 no|pg||
nt|chmitty: dans la tempête c'est moins clair :)|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|rialc2: bene molto bene col ritorno a @D adsso va down|pg||
nt|rialc2: e puntualmente .... @H|pg||
nt|fulldire: se giocava la Q di @S di mano coperta poi non avrebbe fatto l'impasse al 10 di @s ed era in porto|pg||
nt|Walddk2: First 6 on the 28th qualify for the Bermuda Bowl|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|nt|chmitty: question de style|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|c6|pg||
nt|juan lukas: apres ce debut de match , on aimerait bien que la meteo reste au calme |pg||
nt|chmitty: le seul score significatif à ce stade est la Grèce qui mène 35-9 devant l'angleterre|pg||
nt|me argent: pas tout a fait le style de BOMPIS QUANTIN|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|rialc2: ???|pg||
pc|hA|nt|chmitty: accès aux résultats en direct à partir du site FFB|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dT|nt|juan lukas: 9 levées et au suivant |pg||
nt|juan lukas: un claim serait le bienvenu |pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|fulldire: adesso niente taglio a @ded è in porto uguale|pg||
nt|reisig: falling back on @s finesse|pg||
mc|9|nt|brolucius: Four hearts and two spades brings him to nine.|pg||
pg||
qx|c43|st||md|1ST9532HT765DT86C5,SAQ6HQ82DA75CQ974,S7HK4DK9432CAKT63,SKJ84HAJ93DQJCJ82|sv|o|nt|h_karluk: aha-a real gem|pg||
nt|mariner1: 3N was a sort of lucky make here......|pg||
nt|xenya: indeed|pg||
nt|mariner1: how did they make 6?|pg||
nt|mariner1: oh @h lead|pg||
nt|h_karluk: classic 4@s/5@d|pg||
nt|ritong: movie says levy led the @c jack|pg||
nt|mariner1: told W led J@c however E did not play K|pg||
nt|ritong: which is a kind of BINGO|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: i cant load it before the player take their hand:)|pg||
nt|ritong: but..|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: :0|pg||
nt|mariner1: yes Q10 opposite 1 usually does not take many tricks|pg||
nt|xenya: the whole auction in CR looks a bit strange|pg||
nt|ritong: bypassing @ss is surprising, yes|pg||
nt|h_karluk: normal procedure : pass pass - 1@d (ready to 2@s reverse)|pg||
nt|h_karluk: if W dares to intervene double-if not 1sp then 3@s etc|pg||
nt|ritong: however, wanting to protect the @h tenace looks ok|pg||
nt|starkist: NYT column position bumped|pg||
nt|vlad9: there wil be a lot of discussion about this board in both teams tonight|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Tom must be kicking himself|pg||
nt|ndemirev: quite a few imps exchanged hands in the last deal |pg||
nt|thegarve: back to the sedate 3nt|pg||
nt|Walddk10: I don't think so, Vladimir|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Hugh McGann is a dream partner. He won't say a word|pg||
nt|Walddk10: Right Eamon?|pg||
nt|starkist: I had a dream partner once|pg||
nt|eamongall: He will speak lots when he is in private or with friends |pg||
nt|starkist: then I woke up|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|mariner1: simple 3N now with N bidding... no doubt where everything is|pg||
mb|2C|mb|d|nt|sybarra: easy 3 nt here |pg||
mb|2D|nt|h_karluk: Where are you hiding Cliff? Y-day he told me in all sys over intervene 1-2 level suits shld have 5+ :)|pg||
nt|ritong: "cliff"?|pg||
nt|h_karluk: a fellow mate|pg||
nt|ritong: oh, sorry:)|pg||
nt|h_karluk: it's Ok:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: yes, and S also hoped N had a few clubs for his take-out double|pg||
nt|sybarra: or is it easy?|pg||
nt|moen: yes cant go wrong|pg||
nt|moen: if miss the@c ,@h will give 4 tricks and @s finesse works|pg||
nt|jaapfr: as long as he finds the clubs|pg||
nt|jaapfr: no problems|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|h_karluk: sound auction|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: well not so simple 3N as it turns out :)|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|mariner1: will he hook in @s now?|pg||
nt|mariner1: threat of a @d ruff|pg||
nt|h_karluk: I like natural classics:)|pg||
nt|xenya: sneaky lead|pg||
nt|h_karluk: declarer normally tackle trumps first..rest easy|pg||
nt|xenya: if declarer gives up on the trump finesse, he is down?|pg||
pc|d6|nt|mariner1: he may play A@s and one here|pg||
nt|ritong: bompis surely has some difficulty to picture the hand out|pg||
nt|mariner1: no goes for hook|pg||
nt|xenya: 10!|pg||
nt|h_karluk: cut the nails firstly principle - at least in my book|pg||
nt|jaapfr: your extra line is fine fred|pg||
nt|swanson: @DQ lead but declarer will be able to take 2 diamonds, a ruff and maybe 3 clubs.|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
nt|mariner1: should get a @h too|pg||
pc|d5|nt|mariner1: oops looked wrong, no @h |pg||
pc|d3|pc|dJ|nt|jaapfr: unexpected @CK|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d7|nt|swanson: I don't understand that diamond duck.|pg||
nt|mariner1: me either and now no @c ruff|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: that's what happened|pg||
nt|swanson: Now declarer gets only four tricks.  That would be OK defending 3NT but not so good playing 2@D doubled.|pg||
nt|mariner1: we believe it, just don't understand it|pg||
nt|swanson: 5 tricks|pg||
pc|d4|nt|jaapfr: you could not resist Shirley:)|pg||
pc|h3|pc|dT|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|nt|sybarra: telling pitch coming |pg||
pc|h5|nt|sybarra: "overkilled"  as we say |pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|h6|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|d9|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c3|nt|mariner1: kibbers asking about the 2@d DBL,,, because W had bid 1N previously the DBL here is penalty oriented,,, I would have riskes a 3@d cue I think,,,,,,, at worst willing to play a ...|pg||
nt|mariner1: moysian major|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s6|pc|dK|nt|mariner1: risked|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o44|st||md|2S85H96DJ94C986542,SAK97HKT7543D86CK,SQT6HA82DT75CAQT3,SJ432HQJDAKQ32CJ7|sv|n|nt|rialc2: alla mano preceente alfredo ha fatto un altro topo a Mitchell|pg||
nt|me argent: merci|pg||
mb|1H|nt|chmitty: passe passe 1@s contre 3@s passe passe contre|pg||
nt|chmitty: et alors 4@h en Sud ?|pg||
nt|me argent: exacte pierre|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: 2@s chez Multon c'est vrai|pg||
nt|chmitty: bicolore|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|brolucius: Presumably a lot of hotel rooms have been booked by hopeful teams, who will then have to cancel (with a slightly red face).|pg||
nt|chmitty: ah non il a trop |pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|me argent: ou un jaune 4@Cs|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|rialc2: abbiamo già trovato una buona difesa,  ma diranno 5@C?|pg||
nt|juan lukas: bon un 5@c acrobatique ici mais il vont finir a 4@h |pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|rialc2: E Alfredo continua a fare surlevee: 4@S +1 alla mano precedente|pg||
nt|rialc2: Adesso tire le @H in testa|pg||
nt|rialc2: tira|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: entame roi de !k on les fait ou pas ?|pg||
nt|doubab: ben je ne l ai plus :(|pg||
nt|chmitty: roi de @d|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: à mon avis une de chute bien qu'il n'y ait que trois perdantes|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|chmitty: si on coupe les @s on perd deux atouts|pg||
nt|juan lukas: 4@h 4@c 1@d ca a l'air de faire 9 |pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|d5|nt|royhughes: An easy 1N for Duboin|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|nt|chmitty: bon retour de Franck|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|reisig: and us too :)|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
nt|royhughes: Yes, I don't mind the break!|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cJ|nt|chmitty: le déclarant va jouer les atouts 33 pas le choix !|pg||
pc|c2|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d7|nt|chmitty: et ça finira à quelques chutes|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg||
nt|me argent: the more the merrier pierre|pg||
nt|juan lukas: @s et @h fait chuter de 2 |pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|nt|chmitty: Franck se demande ce qui se passe : si le déclarant à 4 atouts, il a joué à 0 %|pg||
nt|chmitty: et s'il en a 5 sa ligne de jeu est très bizarre|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h4|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c44|st||md|2S85H96DJ94C986542,SAK97HKT7543D86CK,SQT6HA82DT75CAQT3,SJ432HQJDAKQ32CJ7|sv|n|nt|vugraphec1: technical pb sry|pg||
nt|ritong: happens|pg||
nt|vlad9: this is a good approach not to say a word -  bulgarians are more hotblooded   they ll discuss for sure|pg||
nt|Walddk10: In fact, you will often hear McGann say, before he puts dummy down: "Sorry, if I bid too much, partner"|pg||
nt|vlad9: thats because he bids too match:)|pg||
nt|vlad9: much|pg||
nt|eamongall: meaning .. you better make this pard or I will be complaining about your underplaying |pg||
nt|eamongall: Bulgaria still have 7 imps here on board 9 |pg||
nt|ndemirev: some technical problems perhaps?|pg||
nt|starkist: I shorten my dummy putting to simply "sorry"|pg||
nt|vlad9: fortunately we skipped a dull board   - 13 |pg||
nt|ndemirev: this one is likely to duplicate the bidding from the open room |pg||
nt|vlad9: maybe they havent finished playing previous board yet|pg||
nt|thegarve: movie says i|pg||
nt|thegarve: its a flat board|pg||
nt|thegarve: maybe mcgann has gone for a headbutting the wall break|pg||
nt|swanson: I hope the cards were played in a slightly different sequence that what has been shown.|pg||
mb|2D|an|Flannery|nt|starkist: operator... any color commentary?|pg||
nt|thegarve: he just lost his line of  thought |pg||
nt|vlad9: Irish heads are tough I ve heard  so maybe he is not allowed to do so in Pau|pg||
nt|mariner1: looks like a straight forward major game here|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: we were talking about 9 tricks but W found 12 lol|pg||
nt|mariner1: 2@d showing 5 @h and 4@s and 11-15 except 6@h here|pg||
mb|2N|nt|jaapfr: with some help|pg||
nt|sybarra: certainly got a little help from his friends (aka opps) |pg||
nt|sybarra: well,  how do we feel about the 1 nt? |pg||
nt|sybarra: I never get away with this |pg||
nt|jaapfr: still admirable that such a small country can produce such good bridge players|pg||
nt|moen: i dont like it with 4-4 in the majors|pg||
nt|sybarra: and they probably do not even need sponsors |pg||
nt|sybarra: I dont either Fred |pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: henri did it :)|pg||
mb|3N|nt|vugraphecb: sorry i am not hier for bids and play|pg||
nt|starkist: this bidding is wrong operator|pg||
nt|vlad9: nice bidding but not true|pg||
nt|vlad9: seems like action was the same as pointed out by nikolay|pg||
nt|thegarve: my spies tell me as I lose my connection that Eamon claims that I am spilling my guinness and ordering another|pg||
nt|swanson: 4@H is the better contract because of the @H10 and diamonds provide a parking place for possible losing spades.|pg||
nt|mariner1: 2N asks for further description|pg||
mb|p|nt|baldjean: especially not on a 4441 hand|pg||
mb|4H|nt|h_karluk: in other words solve trumps- you may decide to let an enemy master at large or not, this gives a breathe to care side suit.|pg||
nt|ritong: "no thanks" says bompis|pg||
nt|moen: but i think they will play 3@d|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: i am told that they are Corsican players (true??)|pg||
nt|mariner1: 3N is an interesting call here?|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphu2: lots of explanation, but I couldn't hear|pg||
nt|mariner1: 3N showing 6@h I guess since E went to 4|pg||
nt|swanson: Surely artificial, showing 4-6 (judging from both Wolff's hand and Morse's final bid).|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|nt|h_karluk: 2 more boards to "breakpoint" - no match easy there.|pg||
nt|mariner1: has 2 way @h play|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: sry for the interrupt previous board but had a computer pb|pg||
nt|h_karluk: fine|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: hope it is good now :)|pg||
nt|mariner1: doing super Dan :)|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: the score is clear anyway|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
nt|sybarra: this is "bold" |pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: not sure Morse likes dummy|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|vugraphec1: ty :)|pg||
nt|ritong: well the " normal" handling with this @h suit is K followed with 10|pg||
nt|ritong: but here, there are ruffing threats|pg||
nt|mariner1: and he may want to play AK ending dummy|pg||
nt|ritong: K followed with 10 because you can tackle Q9xx with east, but not with west|pg||
nt|mariner1: I suspect he will double hook @d|pg||
nt|xenya: if he misguesses @HQ now, he will go down...|pg||
nt|ritong: no way|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: Marc is thinking|pg||
nt|mariner1: he will either play as Henri said or play AK both work|pg||
nt|xenya: E is unlikely to have too many hearts|pg||
nt|moen: was 3@d invitational to game anyone know?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: Corsica is one of the finest islands in the world|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg||
nt|jaapfr: ty specs 5x confirmed that they are all Corsican players|pg||
nt|baldjean: it is only a rumor that Corsican plays all play with knives up their sleeves for instant vendetta on their partners in case of a mistake :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: other island:)|pg||
nt|swanson: Dan has always been rather picky.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|nt|ritong: well, even if for some obscure reason he gives a @h, i m not sure this is enough to go down|pg||
pc|c4|nt|xenya: playing herats from top is fine, but might produce some problems with @Hs 4-1|pg||
nt|mariner1: well............|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: george is reading the daily bulletin:)|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h9|nt|xenya: ah sorry -- he makes it anyway as E has no more hearts :)|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|mariner1: score one|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|s2|nt|jaapfr: but Greece is also terrific beautiful country|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d7|pc|d3|nt|swanson: He was probably just thinking whether it was better to try to discard the club immediately or play the conservative trump.|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|jaapfr: only their soccer:(|pg||
nt|baldjean: had to learn ancient Greek for my studies and still have nightmares about it occasionally :)|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c3|nt|mariner1: and he did go for the double @d hook hence the @h played that way|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|nt|baldjean: polyphloisbos thalatta, the many-tongued sea|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg||
pc|h4|pc|cT|pc|sJ|pc|c8|pg||
nt|jaapfr: -1 |pg||
nt|swanson: Good techinque, allowing for a possible spade - diamond squeeze.|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o45|st||md|3SQ65HQT9D863CA542,SJ92H75DKQ74CK986,S743HKJ43DJT95CT7,SAKT8HA862DA2CQJ3|sv|b|nt|brolucius: Commendably speedy. |pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|me argent: par contre les 2 mot bien jouer est un surencherie|pg||
mb|1N|nt|vugraphec3: altra difesina|pg||
nt|chmitty: quelle redemande en Ouest sur 1@d textas @h|pg||
nt|chmitty: texas*|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|reisig: Pass here ..seems normal|pg||
nt|chmitty: sur 1@c 1@h on dirait 3@c ou 2@d (optimiste) là ils ont plus d'espace|pg||
nt|me argent: il nie 4@Ss avec lencher de 1@H?|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: il promet 3@h mais je ne sais pas si ça dénie 4@s|pg||
mb|p|nt|royhughes: Maybe the safest way to play this is to play diamonds from hand|pg||
nt|royhughes: That preserves the hand entries to enjoy them|pg||
nt|me argent: apparement pas|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|vugraphec3: di mattina si e' poco coraggiosi|pg||
nt|chmitty: exact|pg||
pc|dA|nt|chmitty: 3SA fin|pg||
pc|d3|nt|brolucius: Yes, that looks fine.|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|nt|juan lukas: on peut supposer que Franck a decrit 3 cartes @h + 6 cartes @c ds un jeu de seconde zone |pg||
pc|c6|nt|chmitty: le 7 de @s est une belle carte|pg||
nt|chmitty: ça évite le risque de perdre 4 levées à @s si on prend et si la main va à droite|pg||
nt|chmitty: pas besoin de duquer le roi donc|pg||
nt|juan lukas: exact mais ici une carte peu utile car la main n'ira pas en N :)|pg||
nt|vugraphece: J faria hi|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|reisig: 5 more hands ..this set ..all more exciting than these 2|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h5|nt|8252: :)|pg||
nt|juan lukas: 10 levées |pg||
nt|chmitty: pas encore |pg||
nt|juan lukas: 3@c 4@d 2@h 1@s non ? |pg||
nt|chmitty: si sud rejoue @d il risque de jouer les @c du mort en tête|pg||
pc|h4|nt|brolucius: The Great Shuffler will realise that he is on his final warning for 1NT contracts (with four already). I trust He will not disappoint us.|pg||
nt|royhughes: NS got to 1N because they weren't playing a certain convention|pg||
nt|brolucius: That is because of the learned advice handed out by the more well-trained BBO commentators.|pg||
nt|juan lukas: oui mais le 10 de @d est second |pg||
nt|chmitty: là oui|pg||
nt|mgchat: vraiment trop aimables|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h3|nt|brolucius: A witty kibitzer tells me that: 'At least North gets to take A Knap during this hand!'   All groan together.....|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|h8|pc|d8|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c45|st||md|3SQ65HQT9D863CA542,SJ92H75DKQ74CK986,S743HKJ43DJT95CT7,SAKT8HA862DA2CQJ3|sv|b|nt|ndemirev: hopefully we'll see  15|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|mariner1: nice 4@h here, should be quick|pg||
nt|sybarra: is there a way to make that?|pg||
nt|moen: wel they was in 3@d a few sec|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: EW have a 5@d save but I doubt they can find it|pg||
nt|xenya: EW have a save of sorts|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: khokhlov is thinking about that|pg||
mb|1N|nt|xenya: well if E bids 3@C now...|pg||
mb|p|nt|mariner1: 4@c is a fit showing jump|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ritong: and matushko has to honore that, i guess|pg||
nt|mariner1: now W does save|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: early club up from dummy maybe?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 3@D was easy to make but 3nt had to find @DK first to make|pg||
nt|thegarve: probably the same auction as the open room|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: looks like three down|pg||
nt|vugraphec1: quantin is thinking about 5 @h or x |pg||
nt|xenya: yes|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: always had a @D loser|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hQ|nt|vugraphec1: good decision|pg||
nt|ritong: no big deal, but nice effort though|pg||
nt|jaapfr: @DK and fin gives no losers|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|mariner1: we have lots more Euro Championships and The United States Seniors on vugraphs -   http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
nt|h_karluk: -3 likely|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|nt|sybarra: on last hand?  declarer had  a and k of @D |pg||
nt|ndemirev: E may push once over 3nt although not so certain with no fit and suit |pg||
nt|starkist: is 2@c something special?|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h6|pg||
nt|starkist: oh yah 16+|pg||
nt|vlad9: should be 16+ with clubs|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s2|pc|hK|nt|starkist: still in shock :)|pg||
nt|swanson: There is a possible red suit squeeze here for an overtrick.|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|vlad9: :)|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|mariner1: has to be careful not to give up an extra trick|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|nt|baldjean: a bit strange for West not to cover @d|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|ritong: heh|pg||
nt|starkist: good stop|pg||
nt|ndemirev: yeah, 4nt is in danger |pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|nt|mariner1: and there he does|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cT|pg||
nt|ritong: getting rid of the @s 9 is a rule overhere|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c9|nt|xenya: down 2 now|pg||
nt|sybarra: aha  yes I see,  play K of @D first |pg||
nt|swanson: South has to return a diamond now to break it up.|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|mariner1: this is the last hand btw,,,,,,, |pg||
nt|mariner1: Thanks to Trevor Lumb our superb operator!|pg||
nt|Vugraphu2: next segment at 7:00 pm|pg||
nt|mariner1: Also many thanks to Jan Martel and the USBF and all our seniors!|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg||
nt|mariner1: so off only 300|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s9|nt|h_karluk: potentially misdefence|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|ritong: much better when west holds seven @ds|pg||
nt|ritong: which is far from impossible|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg||
nt|mariner1: special thanks to John and Glenn for their expert commentary! thanks guys!|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|c4|pg||
mc|9|nt|mariner1: next session here in 30 min   http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php - BBO Vugraph Schedule (set up to show times for your area)|pg||
nt|swanson: Nice set by Wolff and Morse.|pg||
nt|swanson: Thanks all.|pg||
nt|mariner1: thanks all!|pg||
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