vg|2009 US Senior Trials USA1 Final,Segment 1 of 6,I,1,15,Morse,0,Schwartz,0|
rs|4DW+1,5DW=,2CS-2,3CE-3,4DS-1,5DS-2,3CE+1,3NW+2,3CW-2,3CW=,4HN+2,5HN+1,4SN=,3DE-1,4SS+1,4SS+1,2NN=,3NN-4,2SN=,2CN-2,2SS=,1NW=,3NW+1,3NW=,4SS-2,3SS=,2SS=,2SS-1,1SW=,1SW=|
pn|Morse,Granovette,Wolff,Ekeblad,Jones,Solodar,Schwartz,Swanson|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SAKQ854HJ975DKCT4,S3HKT63DAQJ864CK6,SJ7HQ84D5CAJ98752,ST962HA2DT9732CQ3|sv|o|nt|daman: and we're off....|pg||
nt|Vugraphu5: we're ready..good luck to all|pg||
nt|daman: you too Diane|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_entries&task=list&event=13  has team roster and access to partnership System Summary Forms|pg||
mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|daman: EW are cold for 5@D|pg||
nt|daman: and NS might push them there|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: South must expect that E-W can make something good in the red suits. Should he bid 3@S? No he has passed.|pg||
mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: very tempting for exactly that reason David|pg||
nt|daman: I would have bid 4@S over 3@C|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|nt|daman: take an early chance|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3NT by East would have been difficult to beat.|pg||
nt|brolucius: South would need to lead a low spade, it seems, to beat 3NT by East.|pg||
nt|daman: and of he bid 4@S they were never finding 5@D|pg||
nt|Vugraphu5: w thking|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  let's you open one window per vugraph table|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Of course, South could simply lead his partner's suit (always recommended) and get a spade switch. |pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: that way you can watch the Closed Room and both tables from the Danish Event|pg||
pc|cA|nt|brolucius: No sensible player would lead a club after a 3NT bid (and a diamond overcall) when they were looking at A-K-Q-x-x-x in an unbid suit. But... well... several kibitzers tell me that ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: it is obvious.|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so it took us all the way until Hand  1 before we have a potential swing|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d4|mc|11|nt|brolucius: Granovetter had a tricky decision over 4@D. His hand was pretty good, for a protective 3@D bid, but he did not like the look of his @CK under the opener.|pg||
pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3SAKQ854HJ975DKCT4,S3HKT63DAQJ864CK6,SJ7HQ84D5CAJ98752,ST962HA2DT9732CQ3|sv|o|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal or 18+BAL|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|5D|nt|vugraphu7: have to restart folks,  sorry... tables not linked, brb|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: when did this become a 9 imp match??|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: players agreed on the score...they are official|pg||
pc|s3|nt|poohbear: ooops wrongsided|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other match  Morse 94 v Larsen 58|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and extremely unlucky @S wastage|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|poohbear: thought the other match was 22 imps difference|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|mc|11|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4SK94H82DAK3CAT872,SHJ543D98542CKQJ9,SJT652HK976DQT6C6,SAQ873HAQTDJ7C543|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: and why push not-vul|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, the hands fit extremely well and there might, after all, have been a trump loser. Or a trump guess to make. |pg||
nt|ahollan1: this final is 90 boards -- 6-15 board segments, 4 today, 2 tomorrow|pg||
mb|1S!|nt|brolucius: Anyone overcalling 2@C, vulnerable, should be shot.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S=10-15, 4+@S maybe 5+ any other suit|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|an|!|nt|brolucius: I certainly wouldn't risk it in Las Vegas, where the population have 1.4 guns each.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: winners of this match will be USA1 in upcoming Senior Bowl in Sao Paulo Brazil|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: losers get 2nd chance to become USA2|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: in the USA2 Bracket [teams with 1 loss]  there are 2 60 board matches today:  Lynch v Vernay   Kale v Larsen|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Larsen was original  1 seed, Lynch original  2|pg||
nt|brolucius: Has someone shot Morse, or is he thinking what to play from dummy? Ah, he is still OK.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: left hand slip   Kasle|pg||
nt|ahollan1: our teams were original 3/4 seed|pg||
nt|daman: first blood to Morse    they bid the @D game in the CR|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: seeds 5-8 were randomly chosen|pg||
pc|s2|pc|c3|nt|brolucius: What was the bidding to 5@D, George?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Same start, I am told, but West then bid 5@D. Yes, it was a close decision.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: it was coin toss between these 2 teams to see who as 3 vs 4 |pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|s5|pc|c5|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg||
nt|brolucius: East can only play a diamond now, but even that may help declarer.|pg||
nt|brolucius: He needs to lead twice towards his spades.|pg||
nt|brolucius: It seems that declarer can endplay East to escape for one down.|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|brolucius: East has found the best return, so let's see if Morse will find the endplay.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|h3|pg||
nt|brolucius: If East keeps a bare @HA, he can be thrown in with it to play a spade. If instead he keeps two hearts. He can be thrown in with a spade to give a trick to dummy's @HK.|pg||
nt|daman: should be simple enough now|pg||
nt|brolucius: Or rather, he will have to bare the @SQ to do that.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: Matt Granovetters @H3 shows original 4@H length|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|dT|nt|daman: good defense   many specs saw it|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|h9|pc|s3|pg||
mc|6|nt|ahollan1: first names around the table   W:Matt N:Bobby E:Russ S:Dan|pg||
pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4SK94H82DAK3CAT872,SHJ543D98542CKQJ9,SJT652HK976DQT6C6,SAQ873HAQTDJ7C543|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: oh Morse made 6@H from North on this hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that was 14|pg||
nt|poohbear: ok that makes sense|pg||
nt|poohbear: Lotsa points this hand but no good fit|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/    then one window per table and you can watch all 4 semi-final rooms|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=10-15, 0+@D  may have longer @S or @C|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: our operator JoAnna Stansby is cheating -- she's played Ekeblad's Ultimate Canape system  :)|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: it is a very fun system to play|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: North can bid 3@H to ask shape in majors.....or bid 3N   or bid quant 4N...   or  bid 4@D setting diamonds trump|pg||
nt|poohbear: 6@d is about 50% will make if @ds 3-3 or the Q or 10 drop dbltn|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|poohbear: actually its about 46%|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: Berk:  I am sure it went exactly same way at other table|pg||
nt|poohbear: Ekeblad takes the position that without the trump Q 6 cant be good|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|nt|ahollan1: good stop|pg||
pc|h6|pc|c3|pg||
nt|poohbear: But if partner had the @d 10 he would be wrong|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and with last result posted -- Lynch now in the lead|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o3|st||md|1SAK43HJTDQ875CQ84,SJT976HQ6DT9CKJ76,SQ52H952DAKJ32CT2,S8HAK8743D64CA953|sv|e|nt|imp_jan: hi folks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hi Jan|pg||
nt|daman: Hi Jan|pg||
nt|imp_jan: brd nr. 2 both rooms played in clubs|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: interesting style displayed by dan morse to overcall on that rubbish |pg||
nt|daman: lovely 4@H here for EW|pg||
mb|3D!|mb|3H|nt|imp_jan: we call it over here the 'rotterdam' style of overcalling|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: All beginners book say that you should not even think of overcalling 2@C on such a suit, yet all experts tend to do it.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@D=INV|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: more of a MP overcall than IMPs|pg||
nt|imp_jan: leufkens-westra used to do that, once in a while u go for a number, but u always have the initiative|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Yes, he was lucky that East did not have a re-opening double.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: they played in @Cs EW in the CR    8 IMPs to Schwartz|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: or a canape with 5+@C where West makes negative dbl|pg||
nt|imp_jan: hard to reach 4@h in ew|pg||
nt|brolucius: East-West have a splendid fit and would have done well in hearts.|pg||
pc|h8|nt|daman: hard to believe playing in the same suit in different directions in a match of this caliber|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Mollo would have loved it|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|imp_jan: yes indeed, especially redbld :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Had they bid 4@H, West's K-J-x-x suit would have been in spades instead of clubs. That is one of the annoying things about the game. |pg||
nt|daman: Matthew tends to err on the side of caution   he is a very thoughtful bidder|pg||
pc|hA|pc|dQ|pc|s6|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: EW in other room didn't get to 4@H either -- over 3@H North [Schwartz] bid 5@D|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h3|pc|d8|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|h4|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d3|pc|c9|pc|c8|nt|ahollan1: 1@D-P-2@D[inverted]-2@H;3@D-3@H-5@D-end|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|mc|9|pg||
qx|c3|st||md|1SAK43HJTDQ875CQ84,SJT976HQ6DT9CKJ76,SQ52H952DAKJ32CT2,S8HAK8743D64CA953|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: i don't know scores for USA2 [1-loss bracket] after Q3 -- eventually they will be at http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USSBC2009/Bracket.php?stage=USA2Roundof16|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2D|an|alerted|nt|poohbear: this looks like a 1NT contract|pg||
mb|2H|mb|3D|an|alerted|mb|3H|mb|5D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: and first to 1N will probably win the race|pg||
nt|poohbear: Run of @s will squeeze West so he needs to start @Hs from hand|pg||
nt|poohbear: if he crosses to a @c he will regret it|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yep|pg||
nt|poohbear: He needs to keep that entry to play a @d later|pg||
mb|p|nt|poohbear: maybe he will start @ds|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: @S NOW would be interesting|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|poohbear: as I type it :)|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d9|nt|poohbear: @ds blocked if the defense plays 2 rounds of @cs|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
nt|granovette: north-south got to six diamonds on board 47 in the other room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: great play - 2@D means only needs 2@H [1 finesse]|pg||
nt|poohbear: But South is squeezed as well|pg||
nt|ahollan1: better buckle up folks - this last set could be rollercoaster ride|pg||
nt|poohbear: Might come down to West having to pitch a @d after South pitches one|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh, right --  after run of @S and @C switch, @D can't be unblocked|pg||
nt|poohbear: Granovetter cant afford to pitch a @H but he doesnt know that|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o4|st||md|2SKT6HJ85DAK532CQ6,S983HAT3DT864CJ98,SJ754H9762DQJ7C43,SAQ2HKQ4D9CAKT752|sv|b|nt|brolucius: Well defended by Granovetter, keeping his spades.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal or 18+ BAL       wait for it|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|ahollan1: ta da|pg||
nt|imp_jan: 1@C = strong (Ultimate Club)|pg||
mb|1D|mb|d|an|5-7|nt|imp_jan: 5@C almost made|pg||
nt|brolucius: Morse is confident that we will not pan him for this overcall.|pg||
mb|2D|nt|imp_jan: just one entree short for a spade end play|pg||
mb|3C|nt|brolucius: 2@D well worthwhile on the North cards, to take away space.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|Vugraphu5: 3c is forcing but you can choose to pass says russ|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s3|mc|10|nt|ahollan1: Matt: thank you for only taking 10 tricks :)|pg||
pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2SKT6HJ85DAK532CQ6,S983HAT3DT864CJ98,SJ754H9762DQJ7C43,SAQ2HKQ4D9CAKT752|sv|b|nt|vugraphu7: sorry, just saw the question:  yes MG played club ten|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Ekeblad should know where the @c A is cause declarer would never duck it|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s2|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: will Berk drop yet another offside doubleton Queen?|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|granovette: no|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|granovette: NEXT :-)|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s6|pc|c9|pc|d7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|d2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c5|pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c7|pc|hJ|pc|s8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h4|pc|sT|pc|hA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|sJ|pg||
pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3S85HAQ6DQ852CAKJ2,SAJ73H2DK9CT87643,SQ62HJ9843D763C95,SKT94HKT75DAJT4CQ|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=10-15, 0+@D  maybe longer @C/@S|pg||
nt|daman: in 3NT on 4 in the other room on @D Q leas|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am not a fan of 'forcing, but partner sometimes passes' agreements. It means that when a player has a very strong hand, he cannot risk making a forcing bid. |pg||
nt|daman: lead*|pg||
mb|1N|mb|2S!|an|4+ and long minor|nt|brolucius: If 2@S is a transfer for clubs, East will not be impressed.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: no 4@S & 6@C/@D|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: or as desribed in the alert [my notes out of date in other regards, why not here]|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: If 2@S did show spades, East would not have bid 2NT, it seems.|pg||
nt|daman: correct|pg||
nt|Vugraphu5: russ alerted as just clubs.. discussion going on|pg||
nt|brolucius: What a shame, when they hit such a great hand for their methods.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C would have been P/C -- so color me confused|pg||
nt|brolucius: What, red?|pg||
nt|daman: clearly East forgot the system|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe 2N was supposed to start invite|pg||
pc|d3|nt|brolucius: The West hand is know to be limited, I suppose, because he did not double 1NT. So, East should not invite anything.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe Diane can tell us how the postmortem goes|pg||
nt|imp_jan: east is the inventor of the system..|pg||
pc|d4|nt|daman: the post mortem might be a left hook|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|d9|nt|brolucius: Anyway, there may be a happy ending to the story.|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|h2|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: Russ arms long enough to reach around the screen - but not Matt|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d8|nt|brolucius: The @C10 will pin the @C9.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu5: russ went on break|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h3|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c9|nt|brolucius: Sorry, South was on lead.... |pg||
pc|h5|pc|c2|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|daman: good parry|pg||
nt|daman: sure to go minus now|pg||
nt|brolucius: OK if he guesses the spades.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: double dummy -- ruff, finesse @S10, @H ruff, @SK, @H|pg||
nt|daman: unless he ruffs 2@Hs|pg||
nt|daman: he has 2 more @Ss for sure   needs 3 ruffs to bring it home|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: or is it double dummy?  South bid 1N but @HJ may locate @SQ in north|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|s3|nt|imp_jan: so can be made|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s8|nt|daman: gasp|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|daman: not any more|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am told that E-W are in 3NT at the other table on Board 4 (with the diamonds bare). North has cashed @DQ-J OK, but then switched to a diamond.|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|c6|pg||
mc|7|nt|ahollan1: and then there were none :(|pg||
nt|daman: that doesn't souind right David|pg||
nt|brolucius: ...to a heart...|pg||
nt|Vugraphu5: more discussion.....|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, 3NT was let through for a big swing.|pg||
nt|daman: the ebb and flow of declarer play and defense|pg||
pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3S85HAQ6DQ852CAKJ2,SAJ73H2DK9CT87643,SQ62HJ9843D763C95,SKT94HKT75DAJT4CQ|sv|n|nt|granovette: would not have helped north to persist in clubs, then club king 9th trick|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|2C|an|stayman|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|granovette: if they raise frequently with three-card support, they will have a method to find out more about opener's hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|nt|granovette: usually it's 2N|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|granovette: that shows four spades, probably min.|pg||
nt|granovette: or maybe bal., not sure what they play|pg||
nt|poohbear: This hand will boil down to the @c guess|pg||
nt|stew: 2nt probably some sort of relay for a try - 3s said I don't care what it was|pg||
nt|ahollan1: earlier we saw  3@C=3@S, min -- I think that was Berk-Lair|pg||
nt|granovette: he will try to strip the hand before playing clubs in order to avoid a guess|pg||
nt|granovette: russ has nothing to lead; will probably lead a trump|pg||
mb|p|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
nt|granovette: now russ will lead ace of hearts (or will he UNDERlead ace of hearts?)|pg||
nt|poohbear: So the play might go trump lead @h up. Another trump. now third trump @h King and a @d |pg||
pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: after Q3 in the USA2 Bracket:  Vernay 139 vs Wojewoda   Kasle wins as Epstein wd [down 89]|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
pc|cT|nt|granovette: i think it will be easy to guess clubs now|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: Gran:  "chicken"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but kudos to Epstein for last minute fill-in when Freed withdrew because of illness|pg||
nt|stew: but again, Pam, it is so easy from where we sit|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s4|pc|cA|pg||
pc|d5|nt|poohbear: Why do you think that pam? Cause Suth might not double with the @c K and a Q high @h suit?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oops -- I forgot to type Wojewoda score ... 62|pg||
nt|granovette: yes, very easy from where we sit :-) but when South doubled with not much in hearts, maybe it's b/c he has nothing else|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: Berk:  I thought you showed extra but it is close enough.  we avoided the 3N trap|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg||
nt|granovette: south doesn't know they aren't going to slam; with cards in several suits, he might not double hearts - how does he know that's the right lead?|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c2|nt|poohbear: Who do we play for the 4 trumps? I think South for some of the same reasons we discussed|pg||
nt|poohbear: doesnt matter on this hand|pg||
nt|poohbear: Declarer might start @cs right here|pg||
nt|granovette: i think he will try to strip the hand first - spades, then diamonds|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: needing to take care of 4th @D isn't it slightly in favor of playing South for long @S?|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|nt|ahollan1: that is IF you try to account for 41 split|pg||
pc|h2|nt|stew: I think he'll sniff at the diamonds first|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4S3HAT84DAJ95CKQ98,SK9875HK63DT3CT76,SA4HJ972DK642CAJ3,SQJT62HQ5DQ87C542|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: unbelievable that heart switch, but it really did happen..|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|daman: (with apologies to Jim McKay)|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Diane - did we learn why  5 wasn't played in @S??|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphu5: russ didn't know he had them .. different alerts|pg||
nt|Vugraphu5: sorry now I've missed the lead|pg||
nt|brolucius: The N-S hands fit well. It is not a good slam, but they might have reached it after South's 3@H rebid.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: my guess  @SQ|pg||
nt|daman: Edgar Kaplan had some great vugraph lines     for thos of you who might have missed  them    here are a few....http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/kpln_qu.htm 1983BB|pg||
nt|daman: http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/kpln_qu.htm 1983BB|pg||
nt|daman: try that|pg||
nt|Vugraphu5: i'm going to have to keep to the hands|pg||
nt|brolucius: Even if Wolff had bid, say 4NT.... he would have discovered that one key card and the trump queen were missing.|pg||
pc|sQ|mc|12|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4S3HAT84DAJ95CKQ98,SK9875HK63DT3CT76,SA4HJ972DK642CAJ3,SQJT62HQ5DQ87C542|sv|e|nt|vugraphu7: Berk:  Matthew was desparate to get a @H lead, he must have had nothing|pg||
nt|stew: I think Pam was right here|pg||
nt|stew: and so it is proved|pg||
nt|poohbear: Berk certainly was|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|stew: I'll credit those imps to Pam   she can give some back to Matt|pg||
nt|granovette: the double didn't work this time, but you have to go with your style; since south could stand only a heart lead, he doubled hearts; on another day, you pass and only a heart lead ...|pg||
nt|granovette: beats slam|pg||
nt|stew: Agree 100%  We make more lead directional doubles than mosrt|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: last hand E-W had a system misunderstanding:   Berk thought Lair showed extras.... so the slam tries gave declarer extra info from the double of hearts@@|pg||
nt|poohbear: Hopefully for Schwartz MG wont need Pam to give him imps|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|poohbear: this might prove to be a tad too high|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on 48 where 1N could have gone down -- Schwartz started @H from hand at trick 2 and pitched down to singleton @DK -- @C shift, another lost opportunity for defense|pg||
nt|granovette: i am very philosophical these days.... i like to stay true to my style, try hard on every hand, and hope for the best|pg||
nt|stew: yes   David did a lot of bidding I think|pg||
nt|stew: this could prove a bit much to handle|pg||
nt|poohbear: yea those @cs arent worth their weight. |pg||
mb|d|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Berk starts with 2 sure side tricks. Would need 7 tricks from trumps. Dont see THAT happening|pg||
mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|granovette: good lead|pg||
mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|nt|granovette: maybe ace-queen of spades?|pg||
nt|granovette: now if they ruff a spade with the ten, he gets his 8|pg||
nt|granovette: i mean ruff a club|pg||
nt|granovette: otherwise they get some hearts and clubs|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|h8|pg||
nt|poohbear: Declarer will score 3 more trumps|pg||
nt|poohbear: but thats it|pg||
nt|stew: yes  he is just out of tricks|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg||
nt|poohbear: 4@s on 50 was a push. Declarer took the early dbl @c hook on a different auction|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1ST985HAK7DTC98753,SA42HQ63D5432CQJ6,SKQJ6H842DA98CAT4,S73HJT95DKQJ76CK2|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|imp_jan: ns make somthing in spades, ew in diamonds|pg||
mb|2D!|an|4s|nt|brolucius: If Morse had held @DA-Q-x-x instead of @DA-J-x-x on the last hand, the slam would have been quite good. |pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=14.5-17   i thought Wolff might upgrade|pg||
nt|imp_jan: 2@D 4crd Drury i guess|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|an|full opener|nt|daman: he doesn't have the juice to upgrade|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|imp_jan: defense shld attack hearts on time|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Declarer must get rid of his heart loser (on the clubs) to make the game. |pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: sorry - yes, from 2008 Wolff-Morse Convention Card 2@D IS 4-card Drury|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|brolucius: The diamond lead is not fatal, I think. Declarer still has too much to do.|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg||
nt|imp_jan: got some chats of kibs who dont agree with 3@s (overbid), i admit wld have bid it myself...|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s5|nt|brolucius: Wolff: 'Hmm. Well, I don't think I will upgrade this type of hand next time.'|pg||
nt|daman: 3@S was a bit aggresseve|pg||
nt|daman: but there are many hands where it would pay off|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, South was worth 3@S. Why not? The question more like: did Wolff have anything extra to show after saying that his opening was sound?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: example: opener has one more @S and one less @C|pg||
nt|daman: 4333 and 14 HCP doesn't seem like a max for a suit contract|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that's why i was wondering about 1N opener, just didn't imagine 3rd seat 1@S on full opener with only 4 card suit|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but 4333, 8 losers ...|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|daman: correct|pg||
nt|brolucius: The defenders will still have to attack hearts.|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|brolucius: No, he has played a club.|pg||
nt|daman: fell in love with his @S honors|pg||
pc|cA|nt|brolucius: Well, we don't need to worry about the N-S bidding any more...|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg||
nt|daman: Solodar somehow made 3@C on Board 6 in the CR  5 more to Morse|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|daman: he is bringing this home|pg||
nt|imp_jan: early heart attack...|pg||
nt|daman: give up a @C and claim|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|d7|pg||
pc|cT|nt|ahollan1: no claim :(|pg||
nt|brolucius: Granovetter will now have a sinking feeling with which I am very familiar.|pg||
mc|10|nt|daman: here is something funny for everyone to read between segments...    http://www.kantarbridge.com/humor.htm|pg||
nt|Vugraphu5: w thought n guaranteed hearts|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the G-rated version starts with "oy"|pg||
nt|daman: vey gevalt|pg||
nt|Vugraphu5: director called|pg||
nt|imp_jan: why?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Ah, Granovetter has a fall-back plan. |pg||
nt|Vugraphu5: w feels he didn't have right information about 2h bid|pg||
nt|imp_jan: anything to do with Wolffs remark?|pg||
nt|daman: now is the time to get something from nothing|pg||
nt|Vugraphu5: suggestion is n manufactured a bid and normally would have 4 hearts|pg||
nt|imp_jan: so, is taht not allowed?|pg||
nt|brolucius: But you relayed to us the explanation that 2@H showed a full opener. Was that made only on the other side of the screen?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: George -- is there a bad time to get something from nothing?|pg||
nt|daman: never|pg||
nt|Vugraphu5: no alerts between s and w|pg||
nt|Vugraphu5: director left with board|pg||
pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1ST985HAK7DTC98753,SA42HQ63D5432CQJ6,SKQJ6H842DA98CAT4,S73HJT95DKQJ76CK2|sv|b|nt|granovette: i didn't want to say it before you did :-)|pg||
nt|poohbear: LOL|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 9 comparisons remaining in other match  Wolff 100  Larsen 68|pg||
nt|poohbear: Anyone in the 2NT opening camp here?|pg||
nt|granovette: not i|pg||
nt|ahollan1: guilty|pg||
nt|stew: this looks like a flat 3NT|pg||
nt|poohbear: I like it . Larry Cohen in my camp|pg||
nt|stew: not my style either|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: perhaps 2N okay if partner a passed hand...but too much slam potential|pg||
nt|granovette: i don't like to lose my clubs|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|2D|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: but K&R says West worth only 19.45  - they really discount honors in short suits|pg||
nt|granovette: on board 51, North-South are playing 3H (4-3 fit)|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d2|nt|vugraphu7: table taking a short break|pg||
nt|poohbear: in the middle of the hand?|pg||
nt|poohbear: Russ must need a smoke Baaaaaaad|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: table is back|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|c9|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|vugraphu7: Berk shows his hand:  is there a squeeze or something.    Chorus:  no|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|d6|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2SKT954HA97DAT8CAK,S6HJT85DKJ964CJ62,SQJ83HKQ64DQ53C53,SA72H32D72CQT9874|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: and earlier hand where West alert of 2@S different than East's alert|pg||
nt|daman: now a pedestrian 4@S for NS|pg||
nt|ahollan1: shows why screens really do work|pg||
mb|d|mb|4C|nt|daman: time to refill our mugs and glasses|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does North DBL now or guess?|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: good-o   not guessing|pg||
nt|brolucius: Unless you are a superb guesser, double is better.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|brolucius: We can see that a 4@H guess would have been miles worse than a double, with a 4@S response.|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sT|pc|d4|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d6|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SKT954HA97DAT8CAK,S6HJT85DKJ964CJ62,SQJ83HKQ64DQ53C53,SA72H32D72CQT9874|sv|o|nt|granovette: north can open 2H showing 5+ hearts and 4+ clubs, or 1C strong|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or very bizarre 1N :)|pg||
nt|granovette: he won't|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|stew: my choice 1C|pg||
nt|granovette: now south will describe a hand with a game force and 5134 shape|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|granovette: by bidding 1H first, rather than showing short hearts immediately,he is showing 12-14|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|an|drury|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|granovette: when he bids 1H, it might have been a balanced hand; now 1NT clarifies that it's 12-14 three places to play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H was 8+BAL or 3-places to play with opening bid or better|pg||
nt|granovette: they will end up in 3NT|pg||
nt|stew: after all this they'll settle in a flat 3NT|pg||
nt|granovette: when North finds out South's shortness is in hearts, he won't be interested in anything more than 3NT|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|granovette: yes, but they get a lot of extra bids :-)|pg||
pc|hT|nt|stew: true|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: 3 places-to-play means  4441, 5440, 5431 |pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think it may include some 5530 - but not all of them|pg||
nt|granovette: yes, North is keeping the relay going in case south has five clubs|pg||
nt|granovette: but south is going to show his actual shape and i don't think the 4-4 club fit will turn north on|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|granovette: he will bid 3c, showing 3D; then north will ask and he will show 5S/4C|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sQ|nt|granovette: now 3S, showing five spades and min.|pg||
nt|granovette: 3H would show 5C|pg||
nt|granovette: 3N would show five spades and max|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|sT|nt|stew: and they have arrived|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: before Berk passes, he says "this must be the auction to balance on"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Pam - other relay systems get a better handle on responder's strength by now -- do you think cumbersome to only know "opening bid+" at this point?|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: e-w are trying to figure out who's lead it is....|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: Berk, oh it is my lead|pg||
nt|granovette: no, it was very specific, 12-14|pg||
nt|granovette: with 15+ they have another way to go|pg||
nt|stew: as Larry points out it is wrong sided, but on relay auctions that is the price one pays|pg||
pc|d6|nt|granovette: yes, sometimes the wrong-sidedness is "random," as you said, but it seems to me to be more unlucky than lucky|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh -- that makes much more sense then, thx|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: Russ:  this certainly wasn't the right side to play it from.  But I wanted to know if you had 5@C|pg||
nt|granovette: well, in my humble opinion, playing from hubby's side is always a good idea :-)))|pg||
nt|poohbear: :)|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: MG asks about leads and carding.|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: learns J is rusinow from length...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and gives Russ a chance for a s***e|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: odd even discards|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: it seems like Berk made a great psyche of opening lead!|pg||
nt|granovette: he's eying those spot cards, noticing dummy's seven and his six, and wondering how safe it is to put in the queen|pg||
nt|ahollan1: good news -- @C finesse into safe hand     bad news -- using @S entry eliminates some options|pg||
nt|granovette: i think he needs the finesse.... percentage is against spades breaking|pg||
nt|granovette: if heart finesse wins, the hand is so easy; if he loses, he has spades or club finesse to fall back on|pg||
nt|granovette: and if he doesn't take it now, he may lose second heart trick|pg||
nt|stew: yes he will surely play the queen|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d4|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|nt|stew: ok  matt has other ideas|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d8|nt|poohbear: He trusts the lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: did @D10 add options we missed?|pg||
nt|granovette: lair has nothing good to play back; if a club, declarer wins in dummy and ducks a spade|pg||
nt|stew: this could get real tricky now|pg||
nt|granovette: yes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: why not @S?|pg||
nt|poohbear: Granovetter lucky the 9 of @hs is onside|pg||
pc|dK|nt|poohbear: well that ended all defensive hopes|pg||
nt|granovette: declarer thinking, whew|pg||
nt|granovette: he doesn't have to give up a spade now|pg||
nt|granovette: he just gives them a diamond; three clubs, three spades, two hearts, one diamond|pg||
nt|granovette: surely he doesn't think spades are breaking after 4-1 clubs|pg||
nt|poohbear: If lair plays a @s back Declarer prob needs to hook the @d 10|pg||
nt|ahollan1: kibitzers screaming for duck of 2nd @C|pg||
nt|granovette: if hearts are 5-2 and they have the ace of diamonds, he might go down, but i don't think playing for spades to break is percentage|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm not convinced, but need a LOT more time to figure it out|pg||
nt|stew: It is so so easy from  where we sit|pg||
nt|granovette: Larry Cohen points out hearts can't be 5-2 when 8 pops up|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3ST642HQ83DA86CK32,SJ95HKJT92DT32C76,SA3H76DKQJ4CAJT85,SKQ87HA54D975CQ94|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: 1@C or 1N?|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|daman: NS might settle in 2NT|pg||
nt|imp_jan: 3n|pg||
nt|daman: 1NT stands out|pg||
nt|imp_jan: probably|pg||
nt|brolucius: If you open 1@C and partner responds in a major suit, you have no sound rebid. You would be rather good for 2@C and not strong enough for 2@D.|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|daman: 9 flat     he will only invite|pg||
nt|bridge_one: Hello everyone from Italy, sry my late|pg||
nt|ahollan1: there's a bid you don't see too often -- 2N=Nat, Inv|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: Hi G|pg||
nt|daman: tah dah|pg||
pc|s7|nt|imp_jan: what do i know..|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|nt|bridge_one: 2Nt inviting is standard in SEF - i appreciate that convention, bec don't give informations about tha hand of declarer|pg||
nt|brolucius: A lot of tricks are riding on the club guess.|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: without @H lead -- you really want to be in 3N -- if missguess @C, 2N not making, if guess - then 10 tricks|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg||
nt|daman: purely a guess really   depends upon his mood |pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|daman: the @H discard gives him a small glimpse|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|daman: uh oh|pg||
nt|brolucius: If he was vulnerable, he might cut his losses by playing for the drop in clubs.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|s9|pg||
nt|daman: good play|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|hT|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|mc|8|nt|ahollan1: ok, i'll retract  -- i didn't see the line for exactly 8 tricks :(|pg||
nt|daman: I have to flee now but will be back in time for the next segment    thanks everyone|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ciao George|pg||
pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3ST642HQ83DA86CK32,SJ95HKJT92DT32C76,SA3H76DKQJ4CAJT85,SKQ87HA54D975CQ94|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: cute letting Ek hand take 9th trick|pg||
nt|granovette: East-West are playing 3NT in the other room|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|granovette: hmm|pg||
nt|granovette: this will knock out the entry to the clubs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not 1st 8 bagger of the day|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: Berk made a good point about lead on last hand:   when Declarer known to have stiff, he can be "tricky"|pg||
mb|2C|nt|granovette: this overcall is very uncharacteristic of the hubby|pg||
nt|poohbear: Berk is an especially tricky people|pg||
nt|stew: some may not care for the spade bid, but you just can't sit there and pass|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: I like his reasoning on that one!|pg||
nt|granovette: :-)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|nt|granovette: yes, switch the west and north hands, for example!|pg||
nt|poohbear: might play 2@c now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well Fred, Matt has sat some today that rest of world wouldn't dare|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|poohbear: Psmmy . Who is that who replced your husband in the South seat?|pg||
nt|granovette: i don't know!!!|pg||
mb|p|nt|poohbear: There is no way that is Matt Granovetter|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|stew: I understand the thinking of those who don't bid, but partner on defense never playes you for hands you "can't have|pg||
nt|granovette: gee, he passed this time....|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: this is the real auction folks|pg||
nt|granovette: you are right, Fred; and the vul. is right to bid your suits|pg||
nt|granovette: south has no reaspon to know his partner has nada|pg||
nt|poohbear: 87542 is a suit?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the green cards were hidden -- finally found 'em :)|pg||
nt|stew: and poor david was salivating even more when he heard 2S|pg||
nt|poohbear: looks more like a zip code|pg||
nt|granovette: :-)|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: if south passed over 2@C how could his side ever recover :)|pg||
nt|poohbear: touche|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with 5 to compare  Wolff leads by 23|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: Berk:  every hand is torture|pg||
nt|poohbear: So I guess bid 2 suits lead the 3rd?|pg||
nt|granovette: i wonder if North wishes he had bid 2H over 2D, on the way to 2S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: winners of today's match play 90 board final for USA1 Senior Bowl spot|pg||
nt|granovette: he knows not to lead a diamond, i think|pg||
nt|granovette: clubs are out|pg||
nt|ahollan1: losers get second chance to become USA2|pg||
nt|granovette: spades don't look so promising (to put it mildly)|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: MG touches @HA|pg||
nt|granovette: it could be that hearts is "foisted"|pg||
nt|stew: I can't see any lead other than a diamond to give Mark 9 tricks|pg||
nt|poohbear: or a @c:P|pg||
nt|granovette: :-)|pg||
pc|c5|nt|stew: he doesn't have the entry's to set up the clubs and without those he is lost|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: Berk:  no one will guess the dummy|pg||
pc|c4|nt|granovette: still time to switch to hearts|pg||
nt|stew: Woops!|pg||
nt|poohbear: no|pg||
nt|poohbear: maybe|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pg||
nt|stew: this could be huge|pg||
nt|granovette: that 9 means "no spade switch pard!"|pg||
nt|granovette: he has to find heart switch now|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: I think @D encourages  (North doesn't want a spade!)|pg||
nt|poohbear: Granovetter might need to get the @c Q out of his hand on the first lead of the suit|pg||
nt|granovette: mind you, it's unlike Ekeblad to play high card when he doesn't like the suit, but he didn't double 3D|pg||
nt|granovette: i think 3N bid shows the spade king for sure, so Ekeblad didn't have to deny it... maybe D9 will confuse MG|pg||
nt|stew: again it;s easy for us to decide what the cards mean and what partner should play, but in practice Very difficult|pg||
nt|granovette: yes, VERY|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: MG:  sorry|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does ACBL have a rule against telepathy?|pg||
nt|granovette: South is wondering, if pard likes diamonds, why didn't he double 3D? if he likes hearts, why didn't he bid 2H over 2D (on the way to 2S)?|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @H9 ---  uh oh|pg||
nt|granovette: oops|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c8|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg||
nt|poohbear: signalled with the setting trick?|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|nt|poohbear: the match just tightened|pg||
nt|stew: thus the reason  many top partnerships use UDCA|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: Ekeblad does with all partners EXCEPT Granovetter|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|stew: that was quite unfortunate for Russ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
mc|5|pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4S642HK7D8643CAKQ5,SAK7HT65DAKQ7CT93,SJT853HAJ83D2C764,SQ9HQ942DJT95CJ82|sv|b|nt|Vugraphu5: ruling stands... they say they'll appeal|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|nt|brolucius: It's good to get in some appeal practice before Sao Paulo.|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|Vugraphu5: board 7 was contested... result stands|pg||
nt|imp_jan: so far i think ns are favorite to win this appeal|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: wow -- I would have thought 1@S Forcing|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am pleased to see that I am not the only player in the world who does not play transfers after 1@C - Dble - ?|pg||
mb|2H|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: East may think he has to contribute, with 6 points and that bidding from partner.|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: only Walter the Walrus would call Russ' quacks 6 points|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|c2|pc|s6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or maybe the Abbott???|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d7|pc|sJ|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|s5|pc|d9|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
nt|brolucius: You forgot to add distribution points, Al.|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|h2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: mea culpa :)|pg||
pc|c5|pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|Vugraphu5: pulled it back|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and a pinochle|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg||
pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4S642HK7D8643CAKQ5,SAK7HT65DAKQ7CT93,SJT853HAJ83D2C764,SQ9HQ942DJT95CJ82|sv|b|nt|stew: but non the less an excellent "recovery" by Matt|pg||
nt|ahollan1: gag anybody who says this hasn't been an exciting set|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphu7: N-S in shock|pg||
nt|poohbear: its certainly been slow and exciting :)|pg||
nt|granovette: matthew is taking all the blame mentally; kicking himself for not leading hearts to begin wiht|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: as is the declarer who thought South was 5-5|pg||
nt|stew: I would think so ... any discussion?|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: quite a bit of discussion... Eke still saying Unreal, unreal, ..|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|2C|an|alerted|mb|p|nt|poohbear: the excitement level might come down a notch on this board|pg||
nt|granovette: situations like this are when you have to be like bob hamman and just go on to the next board - tough it out|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|stew: agree ... hard to do in practice however|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|nt|poohbear: dunno anyone that can do it like Bob|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|s4|nt|granovette: not for matthew (i've had experience!); and i doubt that russ is about to fold either|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|granovette: right, nobody can do it quite the way he can|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|c7|pc|d5|pg||
nt|poohbear: NEXT|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: and then there were none|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: JoAnna -- tell Berk @C9 falls|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|nt|poohbear: swing hand coming|pg||
pc|h2|nt|poohbear: dont go away|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h8|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|sT|pc|cJ|pg||
pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1SAT42HK952D98C975,SJHAQ43DKQ652CQJT,SQ97HJ8DAT74CAK63,SK8653HT76DJ3C842|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: @SQ & @DJ  unless i remember incorrectly|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H!|an|canape|nt|brolucius: You used to play against your grandfather?|pg||
mb|d|mb|1S!|an|3+|nt|brolucius: I played cribbage against mine.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H=10-15, 4+@H maybe any longer suit|pg||
mb|d|mb|2D!|an|5+|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: grandpa=pinochle ; grandma=gin rummy ; uncle=cribbage|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Sounds like a happy family.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: and i still think grandma cheated :)|pg||
mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|brolucius: I'm not sure about South's 2@S. If his previous double showed four spades, he could have left such a bid to his partner.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry -- 2@D says @D absolutely LONGER than @H|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with equal or longer @H  opening bid is 2@D|pg||
nt|brolucius: When Wolff chose to pass, the odds were that he held only 3 spades and East might well hold long spades.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c7|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|brolucius: The @SQ is a good card. Declarer could count West for 1-4-5-3 shape.|pg||
pc|c6|pc|s5|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s4|mc|8|pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1SAT42HK952D98C975,SJHAQ43DKQ652CQJT,SQ97HJ8DAT74CAK63,SK8653HT76DJ3C842|sv|o|nt|vugraphu7: other match this was flat at 1210|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: just like a 1n-3n hand!!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and Wolff +25 with 3 to compare|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: no 2@H???|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|stew: some excitement here|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: so no way to avoid going -1210?  Looks like the hand with 2 aces can take the 1100 save|pg||
mb|p|pc|cA|nt|vugraphu7: they avoided the 1210|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yep -- Ek only one not to bid 2@H|pg||
nt|granovette: another hand for 6-6 come alive|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|nt|granovette: he didn't like poor hearts and length in their suit|pg||
nt|granovette: and 5422|pg||
nt|stew: I admit I would have bid with either north or South|pg||
nt|poohbear: not with South after a Natural 2nt|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: Berk says:  your bad hand Mark was a good hand for me,  I had no safety|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c6|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h6|pc|s2|pc|dK|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|s5|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s7|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|s6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2SQ863HA63DT654CJ8,SK54HQJT2DAK7CAT7,SJ92HK754D2CK9632,SAT7H98DQJ983CQ54|sv|n|nt|brolucius: Experts have an advantage over ordinary mortals, because they do not start to feel faint when dummy goes down and they see that they are in a 4-3 fit.|pg||
mb|1C!|nt|ahollan1: 1!N=good 14-17  so Matt upgrading|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal or 18+ BAL  [or good 17 :)]|pg||
nt|imp_jan: looks like a bread and butter 3n here|pg||
nt|imp_jan: 1@C = strong btw (Ultimate Club)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but not the auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|imp_jan: no not the auction|pg||
mb|1H!|an|art. 8+|nt|ahollan1: FG, a) 8+ BAL [no singleton/void], b) opening+ 3 places to play [5431/4441/5530 not minors]|pg||
nt|imp_jan: that we can be sure of|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S!|an|nt|nt|ahollan1: 1@S=RELAY|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@D=BAL, 8+, 5332 [NOT 5M 3OM]|pg||
mb|2S!|nt|brolucius: Four consecutive artificial bids. Wow! Five, now. Six!|pg||
nt|brolucius: It will spoil it all if they end in a silly contract.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|imp_jan: or a plain 3n|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S!|nt|brolucius: Diane may run out of alert cards.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|imp_jan: r u still with us al?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Leave it to me to explain: 3NT is natural.|pg||
nt|imp_jan: ok, the final contract is sound|pg||
nt|Vugraphu5: e is 3252 8-11|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry -- i'm not positive about the rest -- but confident that one response was 5@D, then 2@H, and one said 8-10|pg||
pc|c3|nt|brolucius: I hope Matt is not too dizzy to play 3NT.|pg||
nt|Vugraphu5: announced to all|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: well 11 if not considered opening hand|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h4|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s3|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: kibitzed Martson-Burgess once as San Francisco Reisinger -- their relay auction used ALL bids from 1@C thru 2N|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: by the time it was over -- both opp had run out of PASS cards|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h3|nt|brolucius: On the deal where Wolff made exactly 2NT (with 15 points opposite 9 and a club guess), declarer went four down in 3NT at the other table.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c8|nt|ahollan1: Schwartz team playing 4-handed  i wonder how much of this early deficit is fatigue|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s5|pc|c9|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|h9|mc|10|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SQ863HA63DT654CJ8,SK54HQJT2DAK7CAT7,SJ92HK754D2CK9632,SAT7H98DQJ983CQ54|sv|n|mb|1N|nt|granovette: they bid a lot with north-south cards in the other room; after north overcalled hearts, south bid 5H|pg||
mb|p|nt|poohbear: and the match untightens|pg||
nt|poohbear: 4 to go |pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|poohbear: on a good day 4@s makes. On a bad day 2@s makes|pg||
mb|2H|nt|granovette: 5-7|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|an|alerted|nt|granovette: Matthew showed a minimum strong notrump with this pass|pg||
nt|stew: and this being a mediocre day?|pg||
nt|granovette: the notrump range is 18-20 after opening 1C|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|granovette: they have nowhere to go, unless Russ balances with 3S|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|granovette: now matthew thinks he has a singleton club and is tempted to raise even with bad heart holding|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Wolff +25 -- 2 comparisons left|pg||
nt|lc: It appears Berk thought 2@C was natural -- else why bid 3@C?|pg||
nt|stew: but 2C didn't show clubs|pg||
nt|lc: Lair-Berk not regular partnership.  (I happen to know)|pg||
nt|granovette: :-)|pg||
nt|lc: But, the misunderstanding has worked in E-W's favor.|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|lc: And, with the screens and written explanations, there are no ethical problems.|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: Gran shaking his head, not a happy campler|pg||
nt|granovette: wow, good pass; i think berk might have taken a piece of 4S|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: camper,...says sorry if I should have bid 4|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|lc: He should have bid 2 !|pg||
nt|poohbear: NO one ever dbls pam :)|pg||
nt|granovette: and rightfully so! :-)))|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|h6|pc|cT|pg||
nt|granovette: i have had the good fortunate to play with michael seamon, and boy, does he ever double - i'm getting spoiled by the numbers on our cards :-)))|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|nt|granovette: fortune|pg||
pc|dA|nt|poohbear: Do you live in Fl now?|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|granovette: no|pg||
pc|dK|pc|h5|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d7|pc|h7|nt|poohbear: happy camper now?|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: y, Berk says good pass|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s6|pc|h2|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s4|pc|c2|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3SKQJ852H86DKJT6C6,SATH97532D9842CQ9,S764HKQ4D5CKJ7532,S93HAJTDAQ73CAT84|sv|b|nt|brolucius: It better not be down to that, because it is a long final. And if they happen to lose, they will have a play-off for the second Brazil spot.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|imp_jan: is that the same Marston Wolff is referring to in his book The Lone Wolff?|pg||
nt|brolucius: No doubt. Paul Marston.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yep  Paul Marston & Stephen Burgess|pg||
nt|brolucius: I think he may be the guy who recommends leading a 4-card suit against 3NT in preference to a 5-card suit (an idea which I see little sense in).|pg||
mb|2S|mb|2N!|nt|imp_jan: that Aussie that wanted to buy the ACBL :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: both originally from New Zealand|pg||
nt|imp_jan: ok, down under anyway|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: good recall David - in 80s Marston authored article on Canape Opening Leads|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: West wants to complete inb 3@H, it seems. An original 3@H would have been forcing. But that is now only a dream. |pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cT|nt|ahollan1: even Transfer Lebensohl  wouldn't help|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|brolucius: A doubleton queen is not normally a good lead. It becomes better when you hold the ace of trumps and there will therefore be more chance of receiving a ruff.|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c4|pc|sQ|pc|h2|pc|c2|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|s4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
nt|brolucius: Now a trump promotion.|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|c3|pg||
nt|brolucius: So, the club lead bore eventual fruit.|pg||
pc|h5|mc|8|pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3SKQJ852H86DKJT6C6,SATH97532D9842CQ9,S764HKQ4D5CKJ7532,S93HAJTDAQ73CAT84|sv|b|mb|p|nt|granovette: i live in cincinnati|pg||
mb|1N|mb|2S|nt|poohbear: chance for an EW pickup |pg||
nt|poohbear: thats what I thought. but you seemed to be in Fl and hanging with Floridians in conversation|pg||
nt|lc: With 6-4 and weak, many East's rebid the 6.  But, when the 4 is a major (as in 6@S 4@H) you really should bid the @H ...|pg||
nt|granovette: will lair show his hearts, or rebid his spades?|pg||
nt|lc: Because such a good chance for a @H game.|pg||
nt|poohbear: I am with you larry|pg||
nt|lc: With 6@S and 4-minor and weak, most rebid 2@S. |pg||
nt|lc: Berk ALWAYS shows the 4 -- he is the most extreme in the game at this.|pg||
nt|lc: But Lair is the one with the decision here (maybe after 2@C overcall).|pg||
nt|lc: And, after a 2@C overcall he also has the option of passing with his minimum.|pg||
nt|poohbear: In the other room East bid 2@h freely and game was still missed|pg||
nt|lc: To be fair, it is not such a great game.|pg||
mb|2N|an|alerted|mb|3S|nt|lc: Takeout, no doubt|pg||
nt|poohbear: true. 4@s is better than 4@h|pg||
nt|poohbear: @ds might set up in |pg||
mb|p|nt|poohbear: when @hs break bad|pg||
mb|p|nt|granovette: it's still going to be difficult for East West to bid game...|pg||
nt|lc: Unless they have a "general rule" to cover this, there could be a misundertanding of this second double.|pg||
nt|granovette: nobody is taking the bull by the horns and bidding their hearts|pg||
nt|granovette: maybe lair will rebid his spades now and berk will raise to game|pg||
nt|stew: yes   this is where untested partnerships have a disadvantage|pg||
nt|lc: Obviously Berk intended it as cards/responsive.  But, will Lair know this?|pg||
mb|p|pc|h3|nt|granovette: i am sure lair won't pass|pg||
pc|hK|nt|granovette: oops|pg||
pc|hA|nt|stew: and this is BIG|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|lc: Not surprised.|pg||
pc|s3|nt|poohbear: thus endeth the match|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
nt|granovette: wow|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: with 1 board remaining  Wolff +25   -- Congrats to our first Finalists|pg||
nt|lc: Declarer has to guess @H |pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c6|nt|granovette: i guess this is a "safety play" bidding hand where you have to avoid making an accident-bid|pg||
pc|c9|nt|poohbear: no guess in @h play @d first|pg||
nt|stew: yes but not until he discovers the diamond K|pg||
nt|granovette: declarer should play diamonds first to see where the king is, then make the heart play|pg||
nt|granovette: you got there first, Fred :-)|pg||
nt|granovette: and Barry|pg||
nt|lc: We (DB-LC) have a rule that when they bid and raise, you can't make PEN X at this level.   But, this isn't the kind of thing a non-regular pair discussed.|pg||
nt|stew: then unless Mark opened in first chair Red an 8 count ,....|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|nt|granovette: nowo the diamonds|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d5|nt|granovette: opened and then doubled|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg||
pc|hT|mc|9|pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SKQ7643HJTDCJT843,SJT852HQ42DQ84CA5,SHA865DAJ96532CQ9,SA9HK973DKT7CK762|sv|o|mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=10-15, 0+@D may have any longer suit or as here 12-14 BAL|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|nt|brolucius: The highest contract so far has been 4@S. Yesterday we finished with three 6@H contracts. I hope the dealing program remembers that and will do its duty.|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|hT|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|imp_jan: Al, I am following the Ultimate Club for days, have to admit that so far i did not see a big gain coming out of it.. |pg||
nt|brolucius: If you want to make a big gain with your system, best not play against Wolff and Morse.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: slam bidding - very good|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: some of the canape sequences creating interesting swings|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm still hoping to see more results from 2@C opening which is either 6+@C or 4+@C & 5+@S|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|sA|pg||
nt|imp_jan: ok, i am curious to learn|pg||
pc|d7|pc|s4|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|imp_jan: but indeed, wollf and morse are extremely tough to play against|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SKQ7643HJTDCJT843,SJT852HQ42DQ84CA5,SHA865DAJ96532CQ9,SA9HK973DKT7CK762|sv|o|nt|lc: Good bye all.  I have to go wait for the sad phone call from Berk.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Larry -- how much have David & Mark played together?|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: Berk :  sorry I could have just bid 3@D|pg||
nt|lc: A few tournies a year.    Bye all.|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: bye Larry|pg||
nt|robinswr: an example of non partnership|pg||
nt|pab1: DB and ML played last year in this same event|pg||
nt|granovette: i think when partner makes a takeout double and you have four of the other major, you should bid it|pg||
mb|1C|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|d2|nt|granovette: i just played in a tournament where matthew and i played in a 3-3 fit, where our teammates played in a cuebid, etc. and these are established partnerships - bridge is HARD!|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: Lair:  a little pushy here, good luck|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|hJ|pc|d4|pg||
nt|granovette: lair isn't going out without a fight; he never does|pg||
nt|pab1: only three 'losers"  How many winners can he find?|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|robinswr: peter and i have never had a  misunderstanding (today only)|pg||
pc|c2|nt|granovette: :-)))|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|s9|pg||
nt|granovette: as i predicted, north-south remained steady after the 3NT debacle; i think you get to the point where "tragedies" don't faze you that much (you get used to them!)|pg||
nt|stew: i certainly have|pg||
nt|granovette: :-))|pg||
nt|pab1: :-(|pg||
nt|ahollan1: of course   Seniors -- maybe the don't remember it because they CAN'T remember  |pg||
nt|robinswr: :)|pg||
nt|granovette: LOL|pg||
nt|pab1: can he bring this home, now?|pg||
nt|stew: i think  so|pg||
nt|robinswr: ruff a club and play trumps|pg||
nt|pab1: well that certainly works|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: Berk;  sorry (as he is thinking)|pg||
nt|robinswr: but what if trumps are 3-1|pg||
nt|stew: Peter, you should know by now that "what works" is obviously the correct line of play|pg||
nt|pab1: also, ruff a club, pitch a diamond on the heart, ruff a diamond, spade to ace, ruff another diamond, then lead a good club abd pitch the last diamond -- losing two trump tricks but ...|pg||
nt|pab1: no Diamonds|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: N taking a break while W thinking....says brb|pg||
nt|robinswr: for a cig|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in other match this board was pushed at 4@S making|pg||
nt|granovette: who won the other match?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Wolff|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so looks like tomorrow 90 board final for USA1 slot will be Wolff vs Schwartz  the original 3 & 4 seeds [random seeding between the 2]|pg||
nt|granovette: matthew and russ won this last year - playing with lev-eisenberg, and milner-baze|pg||
nt|granovette: wolff and morse played very, very well|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: North not back yet, and West still thinking anyway|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and Ekeblad Granovetter will be playing in their THIRD Final within last month|pg||
nt|robinswr: he's smoking in the bathroom|pg||
nt|granovette: oy, don't remind me|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Open USA1, Open USA2, Senior USA1|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: Eke is back,  Berk says ready i fyou are|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: oh Schwartz|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|s6|pc|d8|pg||
pc|c8|nt|pab1: spade to Ace seemsed better here|pg||
nt|stew: yes survives 3-1 spades|pg||
nt|pab1: i suppose this works too?|pg||
nt|robinswr: has to avoid losing 3 trump tricks|pg||
nt|granovette: i think it's classy that each player is playing his heart out til the very end....|pg||
nt|pab1: well, they don't know the margin is 28|pg||
nt|pab1: it does seem like they're all awake, etc.|pg||
nt|granovette: people who love bridge the most treat each hand with respect :-))|pg||
nt|robinswr: you never know what happened at the other table. It could be tied at this point|pg||
nt|granovette: right|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: If Berk makes this hand (he will) then the margin in the match is decided by the trump split on deal 46|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: MG says "sorry"|pg||
nt|stew: true JoAnna ,,, but there were a few others along the way|pg||
nt|granovette: we need the gong|pg||
nt|pab1: deal 46???|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: indeed,  but just noticing how some hands can cost 25 imps!!|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|cK|pg||
pc|hK|nt|stew: true|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|h8|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1SAKT4HA6D632CQJ74,SQ9652HJ32DAKQCA8,SJ3HT954DJ875CK52,S87HKQ87DT94CT963|sv|n|nt|Vugraphu5: last board and then a short break|pg||
nt|brolucius: The dealing program has not delivered any real slams in this session and will therefore not receive any bonus (some of its favorite oil).|pg||
nt|brolucius: The deals were lively enough, though, and the session reasonably enjoyable.|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: and unlike yesterday  --  no abundance of 7/8 card suits or 55/66 hands :)|pg||
nt|imp_jan: agree, but the commentators were horrible :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|brolucius: I found most of the commentators no worse than normal.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: somebody else was using my account to do commentary yesterday :)|pg||
nt|imp_jan: especially those from the low countries|pg||
nt|imp_jan: lol|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h4|nt|gff: Need a lot more competitive hands and slams t o saue thetuornament up|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h6|pg||
pc|s6|mc|7|nt|brolucius: Did you not notice the competitive nature of this deal?  South bid clubs and West bid spades. |pg||
nt|ahollan1: +80  and  1N-2N nat     in same match -- now i've seen everythin|pg||
nt|ahollan1: great set from Wolff-Morse|pg||
nt|brolucius: Sings: "Who could ask for anything more?"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: :)|pg||
nt|imp_jan: yep, ns play common sense and avoid to make mistakes (so far)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: next set scheduled to start in about 10 minutes -- how many think that will actually happen?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Was that the last board? IOf so, many thanks for Diane, our splendid VG operator. Clap,clap! |pg||
nt|gff: will there be something like Butler ratiings publidhed for the event?|pg||
nt|gff: would be nice to have them|pg||
nt|ahollan1: interesting question Gene -- btw  sorry to hear you aren't feeling well|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in very quick scan, i don't see Butler for any of the other USBF events :(|pg||
nt|gff: and bcaue they would be inteesting|pg||
pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1SAKT4HA6D632CQJ74,SQ9652HJ32DAKQCA8,SJ3HT954DJ875CK52,S87HKQ87DT94CT963|sv|n|nt|granovette: yes, i am more familiar with hands that cost 25 imps than i used to be :-)))|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: last hand of set, congrats to Schwartz team!|pg||
nt|stew: I can state unequivacally that one can loose more than 21 imps on a single board|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: okay 47...thanks kibs :)|pg||
nt|vugraphu7: Fred, you sound like a man who knows :)|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cJ|nt|robinswr: 24 imp loser on a board|pg||
nt|stew: Oh, I do|pg||
nt|pab1: yes 47.  That was slam with K opposite AJ9xxx|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hK|nt|granovette: would you and steve have reached it?|pg||
nt|robinswr: we don't reach slams that go down:)|pg||
nt|granovette: :-)))|pg||
nt|granovette: you guys are GOOD!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: best answer Peter:   no with actual layout, yes with better @D split|pg||
nt|granovette: or queen or ten doubleton|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|nt|stew: that;s not true.  It;s just that the one's they do reach that go down are Peter's fault|pg||
pc|h9|nt|pab1: probably would get there|pg||
nt|granovette: and it would be your fault :-)|pg||
nt|stew: Bingo|pg||
nt|robinswr: i think we would end in 4nt like they should have|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: an exciting match ends with a whimper :(|pg||
nt|stew: So tomorrow is setting up to be another exciting day|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cK|nt|robinswr: we open lite so the strong hand without a fit would probably leave me room|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|d6|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|granovette: the boards were most exciting today - lots of long suits, judgment situations, etc.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg||
mc|7|pg||
