vg|Bermuda Bowl 2007,Final - seg 5_8 - A,I,1,16,USA 1 ,129,NORWAY,171|
rs|4SE=,4SE=,6CW-5,6CW-3,7SW=,7SW=,4HS+1,4HS=,3NN+2,3NN+2,3NE=,4DE=,5HEx-2,5HWx-2,4CW-1,5CW=,3NS-1,3NS-1,3SS+1,4SS=,3CS+1,3CS=,1NW+1,1NW=,5DE=,5CW=,4HN-1,2SS+1,3NE-1,2SSx-2,3NW=,4CW=|
pn|Mahmood,Brogeland,Rosenberg,Saelensmin,Groetheim,Katz,Tundal,Jacobs|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SQT92HT86DT63CJ65,SA53HAK94D92CA982,S4HQ7532DJ854CKQT,SKJ876HJDAKQ7C743|sv|o|nt|skjaeran: This looks like a routine 4@s EW.|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: only routine if you stop -- I've seen worse slams|pg||
nt|jtr: Katz-Jacobs made 3 slam tries but stopped in 4 here|pg||
mb|1S|nt|avivs: Hello everyone|pg||
nt|jtr: well done by them|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|kit: West has a tremendous hand for slam with all those primes -- it wouldn't shock me if they got overboard|pg||
mb|2D|nt|vugraphs2: hello|pg||
nt|dburn: not sure whether this is the full Viking Club or a simpler version of Precision|pg||
nt|wygbe1: hi all|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|dburn: but Norwegian spectators inform me that it is the full works|pg||
nt|avivs: 1@c was strong|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 2@C is game forcing so EW can take it easy from here|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|kit: slam less than 50% anyway, since unlikely to avoid a club loser and not a favorite to pick up the spade suit for no losers|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Sælensminde completing his distribution.|pg||
mb|4S|nt|avivs: North X showed 0-5|pg||
nt|ndemirev: hello everybody|pg||
nt|wygbe1: 3d must be forcing|pg||
nt|avivs: Hello David, Nick, Jim :)|pg||
nt|dburn: it may appear that North has shown some values with his first double and his 2@s bid, but that double actually showed a bad hand|pg||
nt|wygbe1: hi aviv|pg||
nt|dburn: so he has got more than he has promised, but an awkward call now|pg||
nt|wygbe1: in that context his bad hand is pretty good|pg||
nt|dinos1: N will bid 3@h I thk|pg||
nt|wygbe1: i think 3h|pg||
nt|avivs: only if it doesn't garantee support|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he may not be aiming for 3NT - if that were the right contract South would presumably have bid it by now|pg||
nt|vugraphs2: i think Tundal 1st dbl is 0-7, but i didnt hear well groetheim's explanations|pg||
mb|p|nt|avivs: 0-5|pg||
mb|p|nt|wygbe1: south can basically make game with a yarborough that has 5 spades|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: Well stopped|pg||
nt|kit: West downgraded his hand after the 3@C call it appears|pg||
pc|h8|nt|skjaeran: He's made a mild slam try anyway since he didn't jump to 4@s directly.|pg||
nt|kit: but I do think he was worth some kind of move below 4@S|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good point Harald|pg||
pc|hA|nt|wygbe1: so i would think s should bid 4s now|pg||
nt|kit: is that necessarily a slam move?  Can't 3NT be in the picture at that point, even with a 5-3 spade fit?|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|joegrue: hello everyone|pg||
nt|Walddk2: He could have jumped to 4@S over 2@D but did not. So he does not have a minimum|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sJ|nt|dinos1: @c shift now?|pg||
nt|avivs: this is not cold|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|kit: different pairs play different ways -- I don't think West has made a slam move by bidding 2@S|pg||
pc|h6|nt|jtr: I would bid 3@s on the second round as Katz did to show the slam try  Methods differ of course|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|nt|dburn: perhaps, but reasonable lines are likely to make it|pg||
nt|wygbe1: its a good contract but the d split makes it touchy|pg||
nt|dinos1: with @sQJ at E|pg||
nt|ndemirev: @C return could have posed some problems |pg||
nt|avivs: I think he has too many losers if they shift to a @c|pg||
nt|dburn: since he can play ace and a low diamond, and the defenders can't do much|pg||
nt|ndemirev: that's true|pg||
nt|dburn: @cA, @dA, low diamond ruffed, spade to dummy, low diamond ruffed, spade to dummy and claim|pg||
nt|dinos1: if @c - then @d, @d ruff, @sA @d ruff, @sK - @d's|pg||
nt|avivs: what if they play another @h?|pg||
nt|wygbe1: spec suggests h may cause problem|pg||
nt|dburn: on a third round of hearts, the play is essentially the same|pg||
nt|ndemirev: another @H is same as @C here|pg||
nt|dburn: except that declarer will need to exit with a third trump to East, who has no more hearts|pg||
nt|dinos1: short @s with short @d|pg||
nt|wygbe1: but ruff the h, a of d, low d, sp to dum, low d, sp to dummy, run d with club entry intact|pg||
nt|avivs: he will have to be carefull not to pull any trumps before ruffing first @d|pg||
nt|dburn: I am sure he will be up to that - he is a careful sort, after all|pg||
nt|dinos1: same coz now @cA - entry|pg||
nt|joegrue: rosenberg will play a club|pg||
nt|joegrue: because he has 4d|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|h3|nt|ndemirev: i think he may lead a @D |pg||
pc|s6|nt|wygbe1: rosenberg can take out one black entry, but still has three more|pg||
nt|dburn: no doubt he will, but he will have no great hopes|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|skjaeran: I think he would bid 2@h if 3NT was in the picture.|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|nt|wygbe1: enuf to ruff 2 d and start running d with an entry still in place|pg||
nt|dinos1: now @h ruff - final entry|pg||
nt|dburn: declarer can in fact afford one high trump, but there is no particular need for that|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|ndemirev: I'm sure if Zia was ruffing a @D he would have shown it somehow with the @H spots|pg||
nt|wygbe1: hes got it|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|d5|pg||
nt|jtr: claiming|pg||
pc|d7|nt|wygbe1: ruff this, spade to ace, ruff another , spade to king, claim|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s5|pc|d8|pg||
nt|swanson: It is not a compelling sequence, admittedly to one who doesn't know the E-W slam agreements.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c7|nt|jtr: or not|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|dinos1: claim|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3SQT92HT86DT63CJ65,SA53HAK94D92CA982,S4HQ7532DJ854CKQT,SKJ876HJDAKQ7C743|sv|o|nt|rado: CR reached 4@S dbl|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|rado: N putting maximum pressure|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|rado: 3@S opening surely is not everyone's choise|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|rado: E had another dbl|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|rado: one down and first 2 imps for Bulgaria expected|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|vugraphb1: 6|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|rado: oops CR room down 2 for 300, meaning 6 imps|pg||
mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|c3|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hK|nt|rado: well some bug with results let's prey not to be the same as USA-NOR last segment|pg||
pc|h5|nt|rado: btw K@S was not finessed so a push board|pg||
pc|c7|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|d7|pc|s9|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4SQT9873HA84D832CT,S2HQT2DAQ76CAK762,S5HK5DKJT954C9843,SAKJ64HJ9763DCQJ5|sv|n|nt|antoniz: aZ|pg||
mb|1S|nt|kit: In closed room E-W had a bit of trouble, and wound up in 6@C -- won't be a success|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|ndemirev: S won't leave teh dbl here |pg||
nt|avivs: Tundal & Groerheim are playing a modern version of the Viking Precision Club|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|avivs: Zia & Rosenberg 2/1|pg||
nt|ndemirev: with a vulnerable gme at stake and only so-so @S|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|nt|kit: Same start -- reasonable, but how does East now show his 5-card heart suit|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: just so-so enough - that @s9 is a useful card|pg||
nt|ndemirev: it is useful in 3nt as well |pg||
nt|Zmud99: Hi all :)|pg||
nt|wygbe1: so i guess zia and rosenberg dont play multi - which has become very popular|pg||
nt|dinos1: has 3@h3@d2@c1@s|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Bonjour Hervé|pg||
nt|ndemirev: they do|pg||
nt|dinos1: but shd work to get them|pg||
nt|avivs: they do... 2@d would show a "bad" weak 2|pg||
nt|dburn: they may well play that 2@d shows a worse weak two in a major than 2@s shows|pg||
nt|ndemirev: they play weak weak 2 |pg||
nt|Zmud99: 2 good news from Shanghai :)   1) the score is good for now :)    2) we will broadcast Transnational Final tomorrow as a bonus for you :)|pg||
nt|avivs: TY Harve :)|pg||
mb|3D|nt|pef: now 3h?  if so they might get too high, also|pg||
nt|jtr: Saelesminde preferring support to showing the 5th heart|pg||
nt|kit: Good waiting bid|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|kit: Yes, East should bid 3@H now, and he does|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|kit: In other room North doubled 3@D, and East redoubled.  Then things got out of hand|pg||
nt|jtr: Might have room for both as he has|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Looks like Brogeland is cuebidding with @c's now.|pg||
nt|kit: this is odd call -- is it so clear that it doesn't show honor-doubleton in spades?|pg||
nt|jtr: Even 5@c will be too high|pg||
nt|pef: i would have thought the double and redouble would turn off e/w a bit|pg||
nt|skjaeran: If Brogeland thinks 3@h is a cuebid they might be in trouble.|pg||
mb|4H|nt|avivs: this is a race: declarer to 9 before the defense get to 5|pg||
nt|dinos1: if put @cK - no problem|pg||
nt|ndemirev: S bought a good dummy but need quite a bit of work. |pg||
nt|dinos1: but W cant cash both @s when in with @cA|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: Perhaps West should simplify things and just bid RKC over 3@h|pg||
nt|pef: will brogeland think 4h is forcing?|pg||
mb|6C|nt|kit: East did bid 4@H, so apparently they are on the same wavelength|pg||
nt|pef: I guess so :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: Or so I thought|pg||
mb|p|nt|ndemirev: Rosenberg will come to presure in 3 suits|pg||
nt|dinos1: @c now|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: No way to avoid this slam, evidently.|pg||
nt|jtr: Well, it seems 4@h was taken as a cue|pg||
nt|pef: so what's a good auction to stay out of trouble?|pg||
pc|c3|nt|skjaeran: Looking at Brogeland's bidding it's clear that he was cuebidding with @c's.|pg||
nt|kit: if East is known to have 5 hearts, West can just bid RKC and find out off two keycards|pg||
nt|jtr: 3@h must be an option over 3@c if it is natural|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Perhaps Sælensminde should have shown his 5th heart instead of the three clubs|pg||
nt|pef: but that's the confusing part, is 3h clearly a fifth heart or an encouraging cuebid for clubs|pg||
nt|kit: In closed room spade lead, and declarer desparately took the finesse|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I mean 3@H over 2NT instead of 3@C|pg||
nt|pef: yes, a lot of specs are also suggesting 3h over 3n instead of 3c|pg||
nt|swanson: If East elects to raise clubs rather than rebid hearts (which seems quite reasonable to me) I don't think he can have it both ways and show the 5-card suit later.|pg||
nt|pef: but it's really hard to resist bidding 3c with such good 3 card club support and such a bad 5 card heart suit|pg||
nt|kit: I think 3@C is fine -- more likely that QJx of clubs will be of value to partner then fifth heart at that point|pg||
nt|pef: so john, what do you think would be a good 2/1 auction here|pg||
nt|Walddk2: But he has the option of bidding 4@C over 3NT if that is partner's next call|pg||
nt|kit: However, I believe that unless a good major-suit fit has been solidly established, there are no Q-bids for slam below 3NT|pg||
nt|jtr: Yep  The old adage is 'if you have a choice between supporting partner or bidding your suit, choose the former'|pg||
nt|skjaeran: If 3@h is defined as natural, I like the sequence here up to 3@h.|pg||
nt|swanson: West might have bid 3NT over 3@C - after 3@D I think East should bid 3@S, not 3@H.|pg||
nt|kit: he has that option Roland, but what if 3NT is where they belong?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: True|pg||
nt|pef: but how many partnerships have discussed fourth round bids after secondary support for a 2/1 minor suit?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: It's not an easy hand as we see|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Both pairs in a hopeless slam|pg||
nt|kit: you don't need to discuss 4th round meanings -- just general agreements|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cT|nt|ndemirev: and the defensive hands are disconnected |pg||
nt|amadala: hi all|pg||
nt|avivs: another lucky layout for the Norwegians|pg||
nt|ndemirev: now Zia has eaqually unpleasant options: sqeeze partner and set up 9th trick or forget about his @S winners|pg||
nt|avivs: I think he should cash 1 @s only|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|h3|nt|ndemirev: even 1S will put presure on his pd |pg||
nt|avivs: he can discard a @c for now|pg||
nt|joegrue: hi all again|pg||
nt|dinos1: best is @d but then E will be endplayed in @d|pg||
pc|hA|nt|swanson: Both these pairs did better than the US women who doubled N-S in 3@D and didn't find a way to defeat it.|pg||
pc|hT|nt|joegrue: its ruff on the road with bridge hotels|pg||
nt|wygbe1: if zia cashes spade, south can claim, and if he doesnt, south can misguess the h and still claim|pg||
nt|dinos1: now E will be endplay in @h|pg||
nt|ndemirev: @D pitch was not very good as E rates to have 4D and he was getting enplayed |pg||
nt|ndemirev: now the hand is still making as the @H can be played for 3 tricks|pg||
nt|dburn: certainly a diamond now would make declarer's communications awkward|pg||
nt|avivs: after East discarded the @d declarer can just set up the @h on power... no need for an endplay|pg||
nt|ndemirev: how exactly you set @H here |pg||
nt|dinos1: it's endplay if E has Q10 :)|pg||
nt|dburn: for example, if Rosenberg had @h10, it would not be so easy for South|pg||
nt|ndemirev: yes|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|pef: so kit, do you think 3h is unambiguously a fifth heart vs. 5413 with the ace of hearts?|pg||
pc|d2|nt|kit: Declarer basically giving up on making -- I agree.  I don't see how he could come to 12 tricks after trump lead|pg||
nt|jtr: Rosenberg rightly realised he would likely be on lead and did not double|pg||
nt|kit: that is correct Peter.  It definitely doesn't show anything about the ace of hearts.  No Q-bidding of controls below 3NT.|pg||
nt|pef: so that's a good lesson for the spectators, having that sort of a discussion with your partner is really important|pg||
nt|skjaeran: I think Sælensminde should have known something was wrong when 3@s hit the table and tried 3NT.|pg||
nt|jtr: I still think 3@h looks right over 3@c|pg||
pc|dA|nt|pef: lots of comments from specs--I'll repeat the best one.  someone points out that apparently you can make it to the finals of the bermuda bowl without having the kind of rule that ...|pg||
nt|pef: kit suggested :)|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ndemirev: zia should try a D not to give it away \\|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|ndemirev: he did|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|nt|kit: I think Saelensmin thought hearts were agreed, that's why he bid 4@H, to sign off|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|pef: well e/w will be pleasantly surprised to find themselves gaining imps on this board|pg||
nt|kit: declarer took the all-out shot of the spade finesse|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d9|nt|swanson: The slam bidding the last few days has not been impressive.|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|h2|pc|c4|pg||
nt|dburn: but since South knows that East has @hQ, this is more or less certain to work|pg||
nt|ndemirev: ok |pg||
nt|kit: they haven't gained yet|pg||
pc|dK|pc|cJ|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg||
pc|sK|nt|pef: yes the first two boards of the final segment last night pointed that out.  not surprising that nobody got to slam on the first board on 25 hcp and needing good splits and a ...|pg||
nt|pef: finesse, but very surprising nobody got to the nearly laydown slam on the second board|pg||
pc|s7|nt|pef: yes, you're right, kit he will lose another trick|pg||
nt|pef: so both sides -150 for a par result I guess :)|pg||
mc|7|nt|vugraphs1: its 5 down :)|pg||
nt|pef: really|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Down 5??|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: yes|pg||
nt|pef: wasn't he only down 3 at that point?|pg||
nt|skjaeran: He was|pg||
nt|kit: I bet Rosenberg didn't play king of diamonds there|pg||
nt|jtr: a reassessment is taking place|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: not playing K of @d but small @d and ruff in dummy and ...|pg||
nt|kit: if Rosenberg plays another trump, which seems more logical, declarer loses a lot more|pg||
pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4SQT9873HA84D832CT,S2HQT2DAQ76CAK762,S5HK5DKJT954C9843,SAKJ64HJ9763DCQJ5|sv|n|nt|rado: time for EW to bid |pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|rado: arnd 11 tricks expected|pg||
mb|3D|mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|rado: 1@D and A@C for defense maybe|pg||
mb|4N!|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|rado: declarer may jump with K for  hoping 12|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|h2|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|s7|pc|cA|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o3|st||md|1S743HJT743DJ3CJ64,SAQ9862H2DA642CK5,S5HK96DKQT987C872,SKJTHAQ85D5CAQT93|sv|e|nt|dburn: although it would not be impossible for Zia to have opened 2s on the same hand with @hQx|pg||
mb|p|nt|avivs: especially in 3rd seat and with their 2 way weak 2's...|pg||
nt|joegrue: actually him having the qx of hearts would encourage him to open 2s|pg||
nt|ndemirev: he would have led a @D sooner then :)|pg||
mb|1S|mb|3D|nt|dburn: he is a great believer in protecting his doubleton queens by pre-empting and having declarer lose finesses to them|pg||
nt|jtr: Nice Grand|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Another interesting hand|pg||
mb|d|nt|kit: and a third slam hand -- E-W in closed room pased the test|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Do the Norwegians have the methods to bid this grand slam|pg||
mb|4D|nt|pef: well another slam hand, this one a rather good grand that was reached by jacobs and katz|pg||
nt|jtr: Did very well to reach it after South opened|pg||
mb|4S|nt|joegrue: in case hes on D,, he wants to score the q|pg||
nt|joegrue: yes|pg||
nt|avivs: 4@h is based in part on the fact that South is limited|pg||
nt|jbgood: nicely bid in the closed room|pg||
nt|Walddk2: South opened a weak weak Multi, aka Rubbish Multi|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: it's in one of his books, I believe|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 3-7  5+ cards|pg||
mb|5S!|nt|joegrue: zia played one of the cards no one else would lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: this isn't the world's greatest contract|pg||
nt|avivs: that's a very powerful weapon of Precision since opponents don't know if you are strong or weak and distributional|pg||
nt|pef: boy that's about as weak a multi as I've ever seen--I bet even kit wouldn't open a preempt in first seat on that hand|pg||
nt|kit: you lose|pg||
nt|pef: you would?|pg||
mb|5N|nt|kit: at favorable, why not?|pg||
mb|p|nt|skjaeran: Standard garbage multi!:)|pg||
nt|jtr: we will se their king asking methods|pg||
mb|6C!|nt|Walddk2: And now 6@C and they are there|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: but the lie of cards is pretty friendly|pg||
nt|joegrue: declarer should e getting the hearts right now|pg||
nt|joegrue: zia with kj9 would not have popped k|pg||
nt|skjaeran: 6@d-61H?|pg||
nt|kit: and the will get there -- basically same auction as in closed room at the end|pg||
nt|skjaeran: 6@h|pg||
nt|jtr: well, 6@c may show the king or the red kings|pg||
nt|jbgood: so it was all about being allowed to use blackwood|pg||
nt|kit: I think he will just bid it, assuming 6@C shows king of clubs|pg||
nt|Walddk2: @CK is sweet music to Sælensminde's ears|pg||
mb|7S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|skjaeran: Well done|pg||
nt|kit: well done at both tables|pg||
mb|p|nt|jbgood: he was just recounting his aces|pg||
pc|dK|nt|pef: yep, hard to fault zia for bidding "only" 4d, but I guess 5d would have made it a lot harder|pg||
nt|swanson: The freely bid 4@S was the key to the auction.  Guess Zia needed to bid 5@D.|pg||
pc|d5|nt|kit: declarer has 3 club tricks, 1 heart trick, 1 diamond trick, so he needs 8 trump tricks.  2 ruffs in dummy will do that.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pg||
pc|d4|nt|joegrue: by the way,, he was not going for a ruff with his lead|pg||
nt|dburn: and this has been a good start by the Norwegian North-South pair|pg||
nt|joegrue: he felt like if he didnt give anything up on the lead he would beat it|pg||
nt|dburn: well, he may have hoped that his partner would have an ace - then, a diamond ruff would be one way to set the hand|pg||
nt|avivs: declarer should get it right since if Zia had KJx he would have played another @d after winning the @hK|pg||
nt|wygbe1: wouldnt the spade j be safer than the d ten if not looking for ruff?|pg||
nt|ndemirev: actually playing K from KJ9 would have been the winning play (if E had A he was getting a ruff) |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Which is also the best line|pg||
pc|d7|pc|sT|nt|joegrue: auto play for declarer there|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|pef: well if he didn't have the courage to open a preempt as south surely he should have bid 5d :)|pg||
nt|jbgood: Geir Helgemo in the press room agrees|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d6|nt|Walddk2: Overtake spade, diamond ruff, @HA and a ruff|pg||
pc|d8|pc|sK|nt|pef: and ace of hearts and a ruff|pg||
nt|Walddk2: then claim|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|nt|kit: South can hardly have 8 hearts, so ace and heart ruff high safe|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|s9|mc|13|pg||
qx|c3|st||md|1S743HJT743DJ3CJ64,SAQ9862H2DA642CK5,S5HK96DKQT987C872,SKJTHAQ85D5CAQT93|sv|e|nt|rado: S would open 1@d nebulous|pg||
nt|rado: W may risjk 1@S with good 4 cards|pg||
mb|2D|an|5M, 2-11 HCP|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|an| |mb|p|mb|4D|mb|d|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|5N|nt|rado: if N bids a suit after DBL this would be FG so second DBL perfectly described his hand|pg||
nt|vugraphb1: nice 5@C missed from Bulgarians|pg||
mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|7S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d5|nt|vugraphb1: Mihov is playing, do not worry that board finished so fast|pg||
nt|rado: kibs wanting Mihov to pass 2@S dbl|pg||
nt|vugraphb1: worry = wonder|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|sT|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|sK|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|s8|mc|13|pg||
qx|o4|st||md|2SQHAKQJ7DK6CAQJT5,SKJ87HT652DJ97C42,SA943H983DQ42C763,ST652H4DAT853CK98|sv|b|nt|wygbe1: if he had kj9 and pd the ace of h, three natural tricks without a ruff, so no need to rise|pg||
nt|jtr: chopped liver|pg||
nt|kit: nice and easy with all those spade spots|pg||
nt|pef: 4h by n/s seems likely here|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: And yet another possible slam!|pg||
nt|kit: that's 4 in a row in the slam zone|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Slam on a finesse|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|joegrue: absolutely,, thats exactly what i said 5 min ago|pg||
nt|joegrue: thats what makes declarers guess so easy|pg||
nt|wygbe1: i agree, but there was a suggestion that rising with the k could gain a ruff|pg||
nt|dinos1: 4@s has chances|pg||
nt|avivs: must find the @sQ if the defense cashes out|pg||
nt|dburn: the only thing rising with @hK from @hKJ9 might have done was crash partner's singleton ace|pg||
nt|joegrue: i expect south to make a mixed raise here|pg||
nt|kit: not exactly on a finesse -- entries to North hand are a problem|pg||
nt|jtr: not quite|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Is it really?|pg||
mb|2C!|nt|dinos1: DD def is clear of course)|pg||
nt|ndemirev: the idea was that you need 4th trick besides the 3 trumps |pg||
nt|skjaeran: True, one entry short|pg||
nt|pef: worse than a finesse, what does he do for a second entry to dummy?|pg||
mb|p|nt|avivs: 3@s = 7-9 4 card support no singgleton|pg||
nt|dinos1: 3@s - constructive?|pg||
nt|joegrue: the idea was that he had the most normal js lead but he wanted to be fancy|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|Walddk2: I don't think you have enough entries to the North hand|pg||
mb|d|nt|Walddk2: But maybe you can squeeze East when he must duck a diamond|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Need a @c lead to make it|pg||
mb|2H|nt|pef: needs the 10 of hearts to fall in two rounds or club king onside no more than doubleton|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: might depend a lot on what West leads|pg||
nt|Walddk2: East must duck when declarer leads @DK, right?|pg||
nt|pef: true, a seemingly innocuous trump lead from 10xxx lets him make the slam|pg||
nt|kit: a heart lead, which is quite likely probably, gives him the entry|pg||
mb|3H|nt|wygbe1: was 3s a limit raise?|pg||
nt|wygbe1: or mixed?|pg||
nt|dinos1: 7-9|pg||
mb|p|nt|dinos1: mixed (constructive) :)|pg||
mb|4C!|nt|pef: but after the double of 2d he will probably lead that|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: And as Roland says, East may not know to duck a diamond lead.|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Zia is making a move|pg||
nt|Walddk2: All academic, what a shame|pg||
nt|pef: ah well, too bad, we won't get to see if any of that will come to pass in a slam|pg||
pc|d7|nt|dinos1: hard to guess @s|pg||
nt|dburn: no particular reason for declarer to go right in spades here|pg||
nt|dburn: and he hasn't|pg||
nt|kit: no way East could duck a diamond lead -- South might have stiff king|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Would have been thrilling to watch 6@H|pg||
pc|d2|nt|jtr: On a trump lead:)|pg||
nt|swanson: West would need to lead a count card (high from 4).|pg||
nt|pef: making only 4 seems a bit strange|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|nt|dinos1: Q over J rule ))|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
nt|avivs: this has no play now|pg||
nt|ndemirev: 4 losers|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|dburn: so Zia and Michael will be happy that at last they beat a game|pg||
pc|h8|pc|d5|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|kit: on spade lead he might have gone up ace, drew trump, knocked out king of clubs, and got forced -- never scored diamond trick|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|nt|kit: that's my guess anyway|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hT|nt|Walddk2: Exciting hands in this set. Scope for swings in all three matches and we had a few already|pg||
nt|pef: nope, what happened was he won the spade lead in dummy|pg||
pc|s3|nt|Walddk2: Germany pulling some back against USA1 in the VC final|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg||
nt|skjaeran: No. He drew two trumps after @c finesse and played @DK ducked and @CA @C. West got a @D ruff.|pg||
nt|pef: took a club finesse, led a diamond that got ducked, played ace and another club, west throwing a diamond.  now east played ace of diamonds and a diamond promoting a trump trick for ...|pg||
nt|pef: west|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|s7|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cT|pc|d9|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg||
pc|h7|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d6|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2SQHAKQJ7DK6CAQJT5,SKJ87HT652DJ97C42,SA943H983DQ42C763,ST652H4DAT853CK98|sv|b|nt|rado: which is hardly reasonable with 4 small trumps|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|16+|nt|sybarra: hello again all |pg||
nt|rado: welcome Shirley|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|an|0-8|mb|p|mb|1H|an|20+|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|bal 5-7|mb|p|mb|2D|an| |mb|p|mb|2N|an| |nt|rado: Stefanov didn't use "longest and strogest" rule here and lead @D|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S!|an|cue|mb|p|mb|3N!|an|keycard|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|sA|nt|rado: defense may score 3@s2@h2@d for 1 down now|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cQ|nt|rado: 5@D intending @s return|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|s5|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|nt|sybarra: @D lead worked out well for defense|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|dJ|pc|c7|pc|cK|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|dQ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3SAQ64HT9542DAJCAT,S8752HQ8763D87C65,SJT3HAKDKT542CK84,SK9HJDQ963CQJ9732|sv|n|nt|dburn: and now they can make one of their own|pg||
nt|dinos1: now 4@s by EW|pg||
nt|ndemirev: seems easy |pg||
nt|jtr: Zia showing off|pg||
nt|pef: zia showed a bit of flair in the end position|pg||
nt|pef: well only 3 imps scored so far on a pretty exciting set of boards|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Pretty normal 3NT now, just short of slam strenght.|pg||
mb|1D|nt|ndemirev: unless Rosenberg opens 2S|pg||
mb|p|nt|ndemirev: may miss it then |pg||
nt|dinos1: 2@s now?|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|avivs: N/S has a good "sacrifice" in 5@h... the one that makes|pg||
nt|joegrue: n/s make 5h with good guessing|pg||
mb|1N|nt|avivs: with some very inspired guesses|pg||
mb|p|nt|dinos1: EW may bid up to 5@h dispite vul|pg||
nt|pef: yes, specs, 4 imps scored, sorry, forgot the imp on this one|pg||
mb|2D!|an|GF|mb|p|nt|wygbe1: i am told that norway has a pickup coming on board 3, the us is playing 1nt|pg||
nt|dburn: someone should double if East-West reach 5@h|pg||
nt|kit: South will still be thinking possible slam, but he needs a fit and won't get it.|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|dburn: or perhaps they should not, since they might then run to 5@s|pg||
nt|pef: for what it's worth, in the venice cup on board three where both sides bid the grand for a push, there was also a push, but in this case both sides bid only the small slam|pg||
mb|3N|nt|passell: might not beat it|pg||
nt|dinos1: wd u go to 5@h?|pg||
nt|dburn: Oh, I would undertake to beat 5@h by either East or West. I might even set it two.|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk4: http://tinyurl.com/2jzdld  for Bermuda Bowl system cards|pg||
nt|passell: if the dia ace is lead and heart king shows up onside  clubs easy to guess|pg||
mb|p|nt|avivs: on board 3 the americans bid all the way to 1NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: 2@D was game-forcing checkback I believe|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cT|nt|passell: we will never know|pg||
nt|dinos1: wd|pg||
nt|dinos1: now @s guess|pg||
nt|wygbe1: anyone think south should make a 2 suited bid over 1s instead of the 2h overcall?|pg||
nt|joegrue: yes |pg||
nt|ndemirev: there is no reason for zia to misguess trumps |pg||
nt|passell: I like michaels with such weak hearts|pg||
nt|joegrue: who would ever choose to overcall with j6th|pg||
nt|dinos1: if @hAJxxxx and @cJxxxx - then 2@h|pg||
nt|passell: an extra trump for you Joe|pg||
nt|dburn: perhaps, but if partner is 2-2 in your suits he tends to prefer the lower-ranking|pg||
nt|ndemirev: with @S Jx (that's the other option) S is unlikely to bid 4@H  vulnerable  |pg||
nt|joegrue: If curtis overcalled at 2 level vul with J6th i would give him a woopin|pg||
nt|wygbe1: i am getting a flood of yesses from the specs too on the michaels bid with south;s cards|pg||
nt|passell: he must be scarred then|pg||
nt|avivs: once he did overcall 2@h then maybe he should have continued on to 5@h with his undisclosed shape|pg||
nt|dburn: so whereas it is possible that South might have shown his two-suiter, with six cards in the higher-ranking suit it is not completely automatic to do so|pg||
nt|ndemirev: for some strange reason i like 2@H |pg||
nt|joegrue: people that like 2h overcall,, |pg||
nt|joegrue: r people that like to mastermind the hand|pg||
nt|dburn: moreover, facing a passed partner it was likely that East-West would buy the contract at the vulnerability|pg||
nt|ndemirev: the hand declares well from S |pg||
nt|joegrue: u need to bring your pdr into play|pg||
nt|dburn: and South may not have wanted to give away too much about his distribution if that happened|pg||
nt|wygbe1: i am getting a question about zia's 3d bid, but it looks fine to me|pg||
nt|avivs: who is thinking?|pg||
nt|vugraphs2: Rosenberg is thinking|pg||
nt|dburn: Zia, I imagine|pg||
nt|avivs: must be Rosenberg...|pg||
nt|wygbe1: helps pd judge the fit and helps the defense if you defend|pg||
nt|vugraphs2: zia might be thinking but he is dummy anyway|pg||
nt|avivs: Zia is dummy|pg||
nt|dinos1: after 2@s 5@c cd be the game - @h stiff and 4 clubs with pd|pg||
nt|dburn: he is thinnking "why does my partner always take so long to play the ****** hand?"|pg||
nt|passell: what would someone bid other than 3diamonds?|pg||
nt|vugraphs2: zia is reading carefully the new bulletin|pg||
nt|ndemirev: :)|pg||
nt|dburn: in that case he is not thinking - in my experience there is not usually very much to think about in the bulletin|pg||
nt|joegrue: the whole idea is not to conceal your hand,, its a partnership game,, |pg||
nt|ndemirev: Rosenberg is considering where to win and how to play trumps |pg||
nt|wygbe1: dunno, 3d seems pretty obvious|pg||
nt|avivs: usually he takes a break when dummy and get a kibbitzer to play the cards for him|pg||
nt|ndemirev: he doesnt know that the hand will be very simple is a second|pg||
nt|kit: a breather -- he has at least 9 tricks whether he goes after diamonds or spades first|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cK|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
nt|pef: now ace and j of diamonds probablly|pg||
nt|skjaeran: +2|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|nt|swanson: The percentage play to bring in 5 diamond tricks is to finesse the jack.  He could afford it because the @S10 was an entry.|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h8|pg||
nt|kit: no squeeze, as West discards behind dummy.|pg||
nt|ritong: the reason is that Qx provides 5 tricks if with west, but not with east|pg||
pc|s9|mc|11|pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3SAQ64HT9542DAJCAT,S8752HQ8763D87C65,SJT3HAKDKT542CK84,SK9HJDQ963CQJ9732|sv|n|nt|rado: CR playing 5@C so imps for Serbia expected|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|rado: kibs helping that EW play 4 cards Majors|pg||
nt|rado: easy 9 tricks if defense cashes all quckly|pg||
nt|rado: Momchil 1@S 4 cards?|pg||
nt|vugraphb1: no|pg||
nt|vugraphb1: yes sry|pg||
nt|rado: there was a good chance for 9 tricks in 3NT|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d2|nt|rado: E could bid 3@S|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c9|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|cK|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|mc|11|pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4SAK32HKQ542D95C75,ST9764HT6DKJCAK82,SJ85H9873DT42CQJ9,SQHAJDAQ8763CT643|sv|e|nt|wygbe1: my spies are saying us is in 4s on bd 4, chance for a pickup if they guess the spade|pg||
nt|joegrue: i must admit that i used to like to bid like that|pg||
nt|joegrue: but if u r playing with a human|pg||
nt|jtr: Part score battle now|pg||
nt|skjaeran: 3NT is on|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|joegrue: and not a GIB|pg||
nt|avivs: they did not guess the @s's|pg||
nt|amadala: running scores at http://www.bridge.la/torneos/2007/mundial/running.html|pg||
nt|avivs: so a push is coming on board 4|pg||
nt|jtr: Yes, possible 3NT E/W|pg||
mb|d!|an|4+!s|nt|skjaeran: USA playing 4@d in CR.|pg||
nt|kit: yes, although with high heart lead it needs 3-2 diamond split as otherwise no entry to East hand.|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d!|mb|p|nt|kit: same start as in closed room|pg||
nt|jtr: 5@c more likely|pg||
mb|3N|nt|kit: Now West has to bid 3NT|pg||
nt|kit: and he did|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: wow Great choice|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|jbgood: press room closing for press conference - see you later|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Bye Jon|pg||
nt|ritong: merci jon|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Bye Jon|pg||
nt|pef: bye jon|pg||
pc|h6|nt|wygbe1: wow, they misguessed the spades, but helgemo jumped on the first diamond, squishing pd's king|pg||
nt|avivs: wow... Helgemo jumped with the @dA and crashed his partner's K...|pg||
nt|dinos1: again @s guess|pg||
nt|wygbe1: then underled club ace for overtrick|pg||
nt|wygbe1: amazing result|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hA|pg||
nt|dinos1: fav @d layout tho'|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|nt|Walddk2: One more set today after this. Then another 32 boards tomorrow morning. VC and SB will finish today (after segment 6)|pg||
pc|dK|nt|avivs: thanks to all the kibbitzers (all 1236 of you) who pointed out that even after he missguesed the spades the contract still made... I just love the blue color...|pg||
nt|amadala: shanghai bbo vugraph archive at http://www.bridge.la/torneos/2007/mundial/bbo.html|pg||
nt|ndemirev: there is some work for declarer but should endup making easily |pg||
nt|dinos1: after @c ruff will guess @s|pg||
nt|joegrue: u can say all u want about helgy messing up|pg||
nt|joegrue: but the declarer didnt give up against him|pg||
nt|joegrue: at this table they didnt even try|pg||
nt|ndemirev: anyone, what spots card do NS lead?|pg||
nt|avivs: they lead 3-5|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cJ|nt|wygbe1: right, declarer led a d from dummy giving helgemo a problem, nice declarer could have had stiff k of d, or even stiff ten|pg||
nt|dburn: "normally 3rd & 5th"|pg||
nt|joegrue: helgy had a tuff problem|pg||
nt|kit: he should cash off a high club first now, in case of QJ doubleton|pg||
pc|c3|nt|pef: now ak of clubs|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|joegrue: it wouldnt cross my mind to lead a diamond towards qjxxx|pg||
pc|cK|nt|joegrue: its sooooooooooo lazy|pg||
pc|c9|nt|dinos1: now 12|pg||
nt|pef: just in case the qj fall for another entry to his hand|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|kit: Rosenberg gets his hopes up|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SAK32HKQ542D95C75,ST9764HT6DKJCAK82,SJ85H9873DT42CQJ9,SQHAJDAQ8763CT643|sv|e|mb|1D|nt|sybarra: and 2 tricks for the def. when up in smoke  (or on the @d)|pg||
nt|rado: another 1@D expected|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d!|an|4 or 5 !s|nt|rado: will W dbl on 13 flat hand?|pg||
mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stanned: http://bridgebalkanchampionship.hit.bg/|pg||
nt|rado: E has choice between @C and @S lead I believe|pg||
mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h9|nt|rado: W may refuse to lead back:-)|pg||
nt|sybarra: yes I would think so,  |pg||
nt|sybarra: not much looks attactive however |pg||
nt|stanned: wlcm Shirley|pg||
nt|rado: every suit might be wrong|pg||
nt|sybarra: ty|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
nt|rado: 6@S should be 2nd or 1st best from nothing|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|rado: AQ@C seemed better in case declarer has K 3rd only|pg||
pc|hT|nt|sybarra: was about to say same thing  |pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|dQ|nt|sybarra: or play pard for club honor/spot|pg||
nt|rado: Desperate @D shift|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h2|pc|c2|pc|dT|pg||
nt|rado: and @d finesse|pg||
pc|c3|nt|vugraphb1: claim from the defender|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1SAKQJ83H6DAT6CJT2,STHAJ754DQ83CQ987,S762H2DKJ74CK6543,S954HKQT983D952CA|sv|b|nt|avivs: well played by Zia... probably will gain an Imp or 2|pg||
nt|joegrue: 3h doubled |pg||
nt|skjaeran: Well done|pg||
nt|jtr: Indeed|pg||
nt|pef: a battle of spades vs. hearts here|pg||
nt|pef: spades usually wins|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|joegrue: pp d|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe, but...|pg||
nt|joegrue: ppp|pg||
nt|dburn: ...(a) East may not double and (b) West may not pass|pg||
nt|joegrue: 3h pas pas d|pg||
nt|dinos1: Zia will pass|pg||
nt|joegrue: pas pas pas|pg||
nt|avivs: OR is also in 4@s on 5 after South showed a 2 suiter|pg||
nt|joegrue: he will|pg||
nt|skjaeran: As always, spades are highest ranking|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ndemirev: Rosenberg won't reopne on this hand |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Harald sounds like a happy man and why not|pg||
nt|kit: 5@H does get out for 500|pg||
mb|3H|nt|wygbe1: the issue is will w double? one def trick only|pg||
nt|dburn: of course he won't|pg||
nt|dinos1: i wdnt X|pg||
nt|Walddk2: But this is far from over yet|pg||
nt|pef: but there is an 11 card heart fit vs only a 9 card spade fit|pg||
nt|kit: And West will probably bid it over 4@S|pg||
nt|skjaeran: EW can beat 5@s.|pg||
mb|4S|nt|joegrue: hehe|pg||
nt|dburn: only Joe would double in the real world|pg||
mb|5H|nt|swanson: N-S can make 5@S if they take the push, but have to pick the minors.|pg||
nt|kit: N-S can make 5@S with a good guess in both minors, provided no inspired club lead|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|joegrue: if i had the east west hands,, i would luv to be defending 3h dbled|pg||
nt|pef: well they can't make it with best defense, john|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|avivs: this should be -1 with the @s ruff|pg||
mb|p|nt|skjaeran: But academic now|pg||
nt|pef: how about ace of clubs lead, heart to the ace, ruff a club|pg||
pc|sK|nt|skjaeran: West on lead though vs @s|pg||
nt|ritong: would be out of turn|pg||
nt|kit: If E-W don't cash right away, declarer can do some good things with those club spots if he guesses it|pg||
pc|sT|nt|pef: so ok, club lead, heart to the ace ruff a club|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h6|nt|jtr: @s 7 suit preference|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
pc|cA|nt|skjaeran: Chance for -1 now.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|nt|avivs: soon to be claimed|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|jtr: Seemingly ignored by Zia|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Pin south's @c|pg||
pc|s4|nt|kit: Now if declarer guessed club position he can pin South's club -- but he won't -- he will play for Kxx, which is percentage|pg||
pc|s3|nt|dinos1: he thks?|pg||
nt|ndemirev: claiming |pg||
nt|ndemirev: :)|pg||
nt|avivs: will claim -1...|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe he should have played dummy's queen of spades on the first round|pg||
nt|dburn: then, it might not be so easy to beat the hand at all|pg||
nt|dinos1: Michael wd duck|pg||
pc|h5|nt|dburn: why would he?|pg||
nt|ndemirev: Good point by David |pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|wygbe1: thats what melih ozdil was saying too|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|h8|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|h7|pc|s6|pg||
nt|jtr: Restricted choice rears its ugly head again:)|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|hT|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|ritong: doh|pg||
pc|h3|nt|Walddk2: pin, scoop, smother      take your pick|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|hA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|kit: plus the 10 of clubs could have been from J10xxx for all he knows|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|Walddk2: So many different bridge terms|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d6|nt|kit: so his play was percentage by far|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|d4|mc|9|pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1SAKQJ83H6DAT6CJT2,STHAJ754DQ83CQ987,S762H2DKJ74CK6543,S954HKQT983D952CA|sv|b|mb|1C!|an|16+|mb|1H|nt|rado: NS may end in 4@H via drury here|pg||
mb|1S|an|0-3 !s 6-8hcp|mb|1N|nt|sybarra: can make 6 @H I think |pg||
nt|sybarra: sorry 5 I mean|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|5H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|rado: only @d ruff stopping 11|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|rado: attarctive lead, but no matter at this board|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d6|nt|rado: time to say that we are watching 2 of the most succesful bulgarian players for last years|pg||
nt|vugraphb1: dark clouds|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2SAKJ764H543D96CK3,S95HKTDJ3CAQJT985,ST3HAQJ972D875C42,SQ82H86DAKQT42C76|sv|o|nt|kit: And now the minors vs. the majors.|pg||
mb|1C|nt|dburn: and if he did duck, declarer could cash clubs to pitch spades, and then lose only two hearts and two diamonds|pg||
nt|dburn: so maybe Joe just loves to concede 730 - I don't know|pg||
nt|pef: ok, now a minors vs. majors battle.  we are getting a sampling of everything in this set|pg||
nt|skjaeran: 9 tricks is the limit here.|pg||
mb|1H|nt|kit: for both sides it appears|pg||
mb|2D|nt|andersk: Garner has been thinking for 15 minutes now, USA will soon get TD on their neck|pg||
nt|joegrue: cleary my judgement leads to minus 730 a lot|pg||
nt|ndemirev: can't you tummel entry to @D J and promote the @H&?|pg||
nt|joegrue: like never|pg||
nt|ndemirev: 7|pg||
nt|andersk: sry was suppose to be private:)|pg||
nt|pef: a little surprsing that michael bid 1h instead of 2 or 3|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Guess they won't stop at 3-level.|pg||
nt|kit: I agree -- maybe they play some kind of intermediate jump overcalls|pg||
mb|2S|nt|pef: i thought they only played intermediate when vul.|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|skjaeran: 1@h or 3@h with that hand NV.|pg||
nt|pef: interesting problem for east|pg||
nt|swanson: In the womens, North bid 3@S, negative double by East, 3NT by West.  could have lost 12 tricks, but took 13 with a heart lead.|pg||
nt|swanson: 3@H|pg||
nt|kit: 25 trick swing on an opening lead -- that's a lot|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Previous hand was a push.|pg||
nt|swanson: Diamond lead, sorry .|pg||
nt|kit: Zia will certainly compete to 3@H|pg||
nt|kit: Not clear who will do what afterthat|pg||
nt|swanson: If the auction went as it did in the women's, what lead would a double by SOuth indicate?|pg||
nt|pef: so what would you guys bid (or call actually) on east's hand now?|pg||
nt|jtr: I guess good/bad not available to West so he could have more|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Not at all clear what Sælensminde will do before that either.|pg||
mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|kit: So he bids the stopper he doesn't have?|pg||
mb|4C|nt|dburn: crumbs|pg||
nt|pef: it's alerted, so maybe they bid the suit they don't have stopped|pg||
nt|pef: of course that theory just went out the drain with west not bidding 3n|pg||
nt|Walddk2: They have reached the same point in the other room. 4@C|pg||
nt|pef: ok, several norwegian specs just told me that 3h was asking for a heart stopper|pg||
nt|pef: so I guess kx doesn't count?|pg||
nt|swanson: Must have felt insecure about the rest of his hand.|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Not sure what east does when needing both suits stopped.|pg||
nt|kit: don't blame him|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: when opponents bid several suits, usually a cue is an affirmation, not a question|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I would too if I knew I would lose the first 12 tricks :)|pg||
nt|pef: or win the first 13, roland|pg||
nt|kit: when he needs both suits stopped he figures out that one of them is unstopped since partner didn't bid notrump|pg||
pc|sT|nt|dburn: even I would double this, and I'm about 100 years older than Joe|pg||
nt|wygbe1: the spade preempt really put it to ew|pg||
nt|dinos1: now @s tapping|pg||
nt|avivs: very rare case of overbidding by Rosenberg... Usually it's Zia that gets them into troubles|pg||
nt|skjaeran: LOL, that's right Kit|pg||
nt|pef: empirically, I mean, not at this table|pg||
nt|kit: Routine spade lead, easy down 1 -- Zia will surely find heart shift after taking two spades.|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|wygbe1: its almost like they were assuming they must have a fit since ns had a good fit|pg||
nt|ndemirev: not pretty but S could hardly think they are on 5-2 fit|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
nt|Zmud99: Mahmood ask Brogeland a question about 3@H bid....|pg||
nt|jtr: Considering a trump promtion|pg||
nt|Zmud99: Brogeland respond and write on the paper : " you South African play very well"....|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ndemirev: he did lead a @s after all|pg||
nt|swanson: Zia would like to cash two hearts now with a possible trump promotion on the 3rd round of spades, but he isn't certain that his partner has a second spade to lead.|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|nt|pef: lots of thinking about what to do over 4c in the closed room|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|Zmud99: Zia smile...|pg||
pc|hA|nt|joegrue: i was asked how many of us would make a negative dbl with michaels hand|pg||
nt|joegrue: i say never evere|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe, but he would still be guessing on the next round of the auction|pg||
nt|dinos1: I play NFB - so never)|pg||
nt|wygbe1: if you do bid 2h, i think you have to pass 4s|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s3|nt|dburn: but he might have started with 2@c and then bid 4NT at his second turn - if that were two-suited and not Blackwood|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sA|nt|dinos1: after 4@d I guess it's blw|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|Walddk2: Jacobs raised to 5 and got a spade lead|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s8|pg||
nt|dinos1: ruff !nd @s|pg||
nt|joegrue: i agree that if every time i had this hand,, i knew i would be at the 5level next,, then ya i would dbl|pg||
nt|pef: 5c was reached in the closed room|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Played by West|pg||
nt|pef: so looks like 2 imps to norway|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c6|nt|dburn: Tim Cope, one of the South Africans who narrowly lost the semi-final to USA1, had a convention named after him|pg||
nt|joegrue: but x is so bad everytime the hand stays a little slower|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c7|nt|dburn: the Cope Sacrifice is one that costs more than the enemy game would have scored if they had been making it|pg||
pc|cK|mc|9|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SAKJ764H543D96CK3,S95HKTDJ3CAQJT985,ST3HAQJ972D875C42,SQ82H86DAKQT42C76|sv|o|nt|rado: again 14-16 Nt action expected|pg||
mb|1C|mb|2H|nt|rado: due 4-4 in Majors + 2A Mihov may bid on|pg||
mb|3D|mb|3S|mb|4C|nt|rado: smooth pass and reasonable contract|pg||
nt|vugraphb1: wise decision Mih-Mih|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|nt|stanned: opposing 14-16 nt almost easy pass|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg||
nt|rado: with the cards lay will be tough to find 7 tricks|pg||
pc|sA|pc|cQ|pc|h2|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|sybarra: probably easy pass, it doesnt "add up"  |pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|nt|rado: we saw too much overbids last days here.....|pg||
nt|rado: at that region of Europe people like to bid|pg||
nt|stanned: :)|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c5|nt|rado: @h discard seems logical|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cK|mc|11|pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3SQJ83HJ964DAQJ2CA,S4HK872DKT86543C7,SKT7HAT3D7CKT9852,SA9652HQ5D9CQJ643|sv|e|nt|ndemirev: ...considering :)|pg||
nt|skjaeran: 3NT NS now|pg||
nt|Zmud99: and zia write in return on the paper :" yes..but you bid a lot ! "|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 3NT down 8 in the closed room on board 8 in the seniors|pg||
nt|Walddk2: American ladies took all 13 when North led a club|pg||
nt|Walddk2: a diamond rather|pg||
nt|ritong: the 12 tricks difference had to happen somewhere|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|avivs: OR is also in 3@h (undoubled) on 7|pg||
mb|d|mb|2D|nt|avivs: 1@c is Precision|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|Walddk2: This is a marathon event. Still 56 boards to play|pg||
nt|jtr: Zia means it:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|avivs: 1NT is 16+ to 19|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|dinos1: landy?|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ndemirev: 2C must be for the majors |pg||
nt|vugraphs2: not alerted yet by zia|pg||
nt|avivs: 2@c no doubt show Majors|pg||
nt|dburn: well, one assumes it's not natural|pg||
nt|dinos1: so pass?)|pg||
nt|pef: michael is having none of it|pg||
mb|p|nt|avivs: 2@d ask for better Major|pg||
nt|dinos1: nooo :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|wygbe1: i got a lot of comments on that reopening dbl last night by norway - holding axxx x axxxxx xx, all white, it went one h on the right, pass, 4h, p p and that hand dbled. any ...|pg||
nt|wygbe1: opinions by anyone on that action? |pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: But USA could do with a wicket soon|pg||
nt|Walddk2: But they have no spinners|pg||
pc|s4|nt|Walddk2: Maybe Zia could call Murali?|pg||
nt|jtr: Zia tends to use spin a lot:)|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Is this cricket or??|pg||
nt|ritong: sounds like|pg||
nt|jtr: It is a game|pg||
nt|swanson: Norway throwing too many googlies?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: or sent a text to Warne|pg||
nt|pef: well as roland says, there are still 3 chukkers to go|pg||
nt|jtr: Warne tends to be busy with extra-curricular activities.....|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
nt|dinos1: easy @h attack|pg||
nt|avivs: Groetheim no doubt will start with 3 rounds of Hearts|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I must say that when in Shanghai throwing a Chinaman would be more appropriate|pg||
nt|jtr: lolol|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Only cricket fans would know what that means|pg||
nt|pef: well cricket is very big both in the US and Norway :)|pg||
nt|kit: West showing true respect leading his partner's suit holding a stiff and a good 7-bagger|pg||
nt|jtr: Zia was a good cricketer|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Yes indeed!:)|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer would have preferred that East captured that king with his ace - transportation is not comfortable here.|pg||
nt|skjaeran: He should come to 9 tricks: 3+2+2+2|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Obviously throwing is not allowed in cricket (for a bowler that is)|pg||
nt|pef: anybody with any good Australian rules football allusions?|pg||
nt|kit: declarer does have to sweat a bit here -- that ninth trick might not be so easy to find|pg||
nt|jtr: I am getting loads of messages-about cricket!|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dQ|nt|ndemirev: even in imps there is something to be said about dbl for penalties :) |pg||
nt|skjaeran: It is there - the problem is timing, so you can reach it.|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|jtr: They must feel i am better qualified to comment on that rather than Bridge:(|pg||
nt|pef: looks like a club back is best, but that's a fairly difficult play to find|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c2|nt|dinos1: also he shd duck @c lead from dcl|pg||
nt|ritong: feeling bluesy, david?|pg||
nt|jtr: Yep|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 5@C made in the other room when Grøtheim played a 3rd spade|pg||
nt|jtr: wow!|pg||
nt|ritong: hang on|pg||
nt|pef: 5c off the ace of spades and 2 club tricks at least?|pg||
nt|jtr: So they got their 'wicket'|pg||
pc|c3|nt|dburn: and will no doubt duck the first club, though it may not matter if he doesn't|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|pef: oh, you mean on the previous board?|pg||
nt|kit: previous deal I believe|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|nt|dburn: although he has a slightly awkward shift now|pg||
pc|c5|nt|dburn: and that @d2 is encouraging in diamonds on his methods|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|h9|nt|skjaeran: Zia doing fine this far.|pg||
nt|pef: would a club back have beaten him?|pg||
nt|skjaeran: No. He can always make I think.|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ndemirev: 3 rounds of D|pg||
pc|h3|nt|avivs: looks like -1 no matter if he ducks the @c or not|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|pef: yeah, timing is harder, but looks like he can do it|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Apologies to some Chinese spectators if they think I have insulted them bu using the word "Chinaman". The confusion arises because they don't know what a Chinaman is in cricket. ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Nothing offensive at all, and I will explain right now|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Chinaman A ball bowled by a left-arm slow bowler that turns into the right-hand batsman, in effect a left-arm legspinner. Named after Puss Achong |pg||
nt|kit: this could get tricky now|pg||
nt|jtr: I wonder if they are any the wiser Roland?:)|pg||
nt|kit: Say East returns a low spade|pg||
nt|pef: that may set the record for most highly technical explanation of an unrelated sport on bbo to more than 3000 spectators, roland|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Whatever happens he can use one opponent as a stepping stone.|pg||
nt|ritong: maybe they are not, but R is safe|pg||
pc|s5|nt|kit: Declarer wins, takes another heart finesse, and plays a spade -- East doesn't have a good counter|pg||
nt|Walddk2: for the benefit of the americans http://uk.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/NATIONAL/ICC_MEMBERS/USA/USA_HISTORY.html 4th paragraph|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Grøtheim went down on this one in CR.|pg||
nt|jtr: This is really quite nasty for Zia|pg||
nt|skjaeran: No opposing bidding in CR, so harder for Grøtheim.|pg||
nt|pef: after an early big gain for the germans in the venice cup, the americans have pushed to lead back up to 53 imps|pg||
nt|Walddk2: In case some are wondering if I am a cricket fan, let me put it this way: Cricket is life, the rest is mere details|pg||
nt|ritong: i m not sure that saelensminde had elements to analyze the position deeply, but first trick was instructive|pg||
nt|jtr: The @c discard from Saelesminde should help him|pg||
nt|jtr: Saelensminde sorry|pg||
nt|ritong: zia plays @s king, so he wants me to take, so ill duck it|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d5|nt|ndemirev: but won't duck teh @C |pg||
nt|dinos1: @d|pg||
nt|dburn: well, two down if he ducks the club|pg||
nt|jtr: warns him off the @c break|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|h4|nt|dburn: since Rosenberg will have to lose two spades then|pg||
nt|dburn: but since it's the setting trick, and since there's no real reason why East could not have @sKJ10x, he may not duck|pg||
nt|avivs: declarer can still go only -1 even if he ducks by end playing him with @sA and another @s...|pg||
nt|ndemirev: if declarer holds KJ6x in @S ducking the @C will cost |pg||
pc|h2|nt|swanson: Zia can win this, cash a diamond and two hearts.|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cK|nt|dburn: maybe he will reason, after North throws a club, that with nothing in spades North might throw one of those|pg||
pc|c6|nt|dburn: not really - he can exit with @cA then|pg||
pc|d2|nt|pef: you were saying?|pg||
nt|kit: oops|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|hA|nt|skjaeran: Going down now|pg||
pc|s6|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|d3|pg||
nt|swanson: Had to cash the heart first.|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SQJ83HJ964DAQJ2CA,S4HK872DKT86543C7,SKT7HAT3D7CKT9852,SA9652HQ5D9CQJ643|sv|e|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|rado: can predict that our room will finishe 5-6 boards ahead|pg||
nt|stanned: at least|pg||
nt|sybarra: 2 @C=majors |pg||
nt|rado: 2@C = @S and another unbid|pg||
nt|sybarra: ok|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|rado: Momchil was 2@C explained as majors?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d9|nt|vugraphb1: Kikich made very interesting jesticle, seeing 5 @C :)|pg||
nt|rado: if 2@C showing definetely both Majors then 2@h might be asking or showing stoper with @c support|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sT|nt|sybarra: will only cash 1 @S and shift  |pg||
nt|rado: kibs helping 2@h= 8-11 with good @C support|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|sybarra: well wrong idea here |pg||
nt|sybarra: of only 1 @S cashed |pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|nt|rado: @d finesse seems logical to discard 1 losing @H but far from enough for making|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|d4|nt|rado: with @C breaking badly 3NT also down at first glance|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h3|nt|stanned: he was going to eliminate @d and @c from Mihov  and to play for small @h from hand |pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|d8|pc|c5|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|nt|sybarra: he maybe looking for "plan B"|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|c6|mc|8|pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SAJ972HJ85DJTCKJ2,S653H7632DAK965C4,SQT84H94D84CAQ973,SKHAKQTDQ732CT865|sv|b|nt|avivs: then the other @s goes on the @c in dummy|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I am asked about my best figures when I played cricket about 125 years ago. 118* and 6-49|pg||
nt|kit: or just cash jack of diamonds, heart hook, spade|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Difficult hand.|pg||
nt|pef: well I'd guess a very high percentage of the audience has not idea what that means, Roland--including me|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Last one.|pg||
nt|kit: Not sure what he was playing for|pg||
nt|twcho: three more segments after this|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|jtr: @cs to behave|pg||
mb|d!|nt|avivs: sorry I meant @sK and a @s... ducking the Q|pg||
nt|dburn: not if declarer has played @sA - he can't get to dummy|pg||
nt|kit: N-S will find 4@S save over 4@H probably -- will E-W know to bid on?|pg||
nt|jtr: well they will both get to game soon|pg||
mb|3C!|nt|dinos1: board 8 - same bidding but E passed 5@cX so -1 only|pg||
nt|dburn: then South can unblock @sQ under the king|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Peter: highest score with the bat  118 not out, best bowling  6 wickets for the cost of 49 runs. Got it?|pg||
mb|p|nt|skjaeran: In the ladies final both teams made 3NT on last board.|pg||
nt|pef: kindly specs are helping me roland|pg||
mb|3S|nt|wygbe1: the 1d opening looks like it will get ns too high|pg||
mb|p|nt|wygbe1: as long as a club is led, that is|pg||
nt|dburn: 1@h is either natural or a relay|pg||
nt|avivs: 1@h = either 6+ hcp with 4+ hearts or any GF|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: 2@s asks for shape|pg||
nt|avivs: 2@d = 11-13 hcp 6+ diamonds|pg||
nt|jtr: I will revert to cricket|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Roland - we non-cricket fans don'e understand a word of what you're saying.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Your loss Harald|pg||
nt|pef: am I the only one who thinkins saelensmin's pass over 3c is a bit chicken?|pg||
pc|c4|nt|dinos1: X?|pg||
nt|dburn: and according to Groetheim's book 3@c shows some 6331 shape - 2NT would show 6322|pg||
nt|skjaeran: No loss for me:)|pg||
nt|skjaeran: I've got bridge and football.|pg||
nt|kit: Something went wrong with defense in closed room it appears|pg||
nt|pef: stiff club was led, kit|pg||
pc|cA|nt|avivs: they play a revised version of Viking @c|pg||
nt|dinos1: thk after finding 3@h N will choose 4@h|pg||
nt|dburn: but no doubt the system has been updated|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
nt|ndemirev: i'd rahter be in 3n and let the defense to figure it out |pg||
nt|avivs: I wonder why Zia didn't X...|pg||
nt|dburn: revisions to the Viking Club having been suggested by Alfred the Great|pg||
nt|dinos1: after X?|pg||
nt|ndemirev: not after the X , noooo|pg||
nt|avivs: I guess he did|pg||
nt|dinos1: he X'd|pg||
nt|avivs: now will likely get to 4@s|pg||
nt|ndemirev: S will rebid @D if anything |pg||
nt|dinos1: or 5@d if S bid 4@d now|pg||
nt|pef: so declarer had 10 top winners before either red suit was played|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|wygbe1: i wonder if north can come up with a pass on 15 here|pg||
nt|wygbe1: after pd opened|pg||
nt|dinos1: have they next relay abt 3-carder after 6322?|pg||
nt|dinos1: why then N didnt ask?|pg||
nt|wygbe1: he does have a horrible 15, and he can see 2 club losers off the top|pg||
nt|wygbe1: with a probable major loser|pg||
nt|wygbe1: as all of the specs keep pointing out|pg||
nt|dinos1: give @hQ to S|pg||
nt|vugraphs2: Groetheim told zia he was not 100% sure about the meaning of 1 bid|pg||
nt|wygbe1: they are overwhelmingly predicting pass|pg||
nt|dinos1: 6@d4@h1@s|pg||
nt|vugraphs2: i guess 3@s|pg||
nt|avivs: 3@s was breaking the relay hence Natural|pg||
nt|ndemirev: you can't just pass 4D in IMPs |pg||
nt|ndemirev: what is PD has @H Q|pg||
nt|ndemirev: *if |pg||
nt|dburn: even at IMPs, you are always at liberty to play in the right contract|pg||
nt|ndemirev: ok :)|pg||
nt|dinos1: normal to pass 4m when u see 3 losers|pg||
nt|kit: somebody once said -- when you have an AK, lead it first and ask questions later|pg||
pc|sA|nt|pef: sort of like this|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|s9|nt|avivs: only when you know it's the right contract... clearly not the case here|pg||
pc|s5|nt|dburn: not that 5@d is a hopeless spot - round about an 18% chance|pg||
nt|ndemirev: but do you see them? |pg||
nt|avivs: as I predicted|pg||
nt|dinos1: but this one isnt the case |pg||
pc|s4|nt|skjaeran: And when I say football I mean real football - not the american version...|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SAJ972HJ85DJTCKJ2,S653H7632DAK965C4,SQT84H94D84CAQ973,SKHAKQTDQ732CT865|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|rado: in case W passes will have 1st strong @c action|pg||
mb|3D!|an|7-9 5!d|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: n/s with 4 @S  here |pg||
nt|rado: agressive vulnerable 3@D preempt|pg||
pc|c4|nt|rado: N has another dbl|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg||
nt|rado: and S may produse 4@D pick a Major|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|rado: with @C breaking 5-1 would be some problems for declarer|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s4|nt|rado: tricks costing lead|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|d3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|d5|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h2|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s2|pc|d6|pc|sT|pc|hT|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1STH82DQJ64CAKJ976,SA832HAT9DK32CT85,SK975HKJ543DA7C32,SQJ64HQ76DT985CQ4|sv|o|nt|vugraphs2: maybe rosenberg played the 2 at 2nd rounf of @c|pg||
nt|vugraphs2: didnt see it|pg||
nt|jtr: Without a top @d?|pg||
nt|pef: yep|pg||
nt|jtr: Perverse|pg||
nt|kit: E-W were cold for 5@H -- they will be very pleased to win 10 IMPs on that board|pg||
mb|1C|nt|pef: i guess for some players, always lead a singleton trumps always lead from ak|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Last about cricket:  http://members.tripod.com/ sccwa/crick.html   explanation for Americans and Norwegians|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: And French?|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|pef: can we move on to a real sport like croquet, now?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: French too|pg||
nt|ritong: heun?|pg||
mb|2C|nt|jtr: Woke Henri up|pg||
nt|ritong: yes:)|pg||
nt|pef: meanwhile, back to the bridge|pg||
nt|ritong: i used to like croquet lol|pg||
nt|kit: How hard will Rosenberg drive this hand opposite a 2@C rebid?|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphs2: 35 minutes left|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|jtr: 3@c?|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|dinos1: good @s spots|pg||
nt|kit: Now Zia will bid 3@C, and that will be that|pg||
mb|p|nt|avivs: I hate the Pass at Imps... so much to lose... so little to gain|pg||
nt|wygbe1: this could make|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: Yucky 3NT|pg||
nt|skjaeran: hmm - no game?|pg||
pc|s3|nt|jtr: But i guess 3@c could go down too|pg||
nt|pef: ok, i have now heard from 30+ croquet fans--I guess I need to provide a web pointer on that soon|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, but imo 2nt means " how good are your @cs"|pg||
nt|kit: it turns out 3NT makes, but the cards do lie favorably|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg||
nt|jtr: Nice lead|pg||
nt|pef: same contract in the closed room|pg||
nt|ritong: and i am surprised zia did not answer " i love em"|pg||
nt|kit: It looks like West could have underled either ace successfully|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Same contract in the closed room|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Trump back now.|pg||
nt|jtr: Too smelly if he underleads the @h|pg||
nt|pef: and same lead, also|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Grøtheim about to make at least 1 overtrick|pg||
nt|skjaeran: But he can't go down if he takes @D finesse.|pg||
nt|nkgupt: doubt if @sk can be any useful for 3@c's later play !|pg||
nt|jtr: has a guess surely?|pg||
nt|kit: declarer has only 8 tricks for sure|pg||
nt|jtr: Can play East for the @dK on a @c back|pg||
nt|kit: and on club return, he might play diamond to ace and diamond -- can play either opponent for king of diamonds|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg||
nt|kit: I think he will get the diamonds wrong|pg||
nt|jtr: Needs to misguess both red suits to go down|pg||
nt|pef: i agree, but I think he will then get the hearts right|pg||
nt|kit: actually, if he thinks East has the high spades, he may well play West for king of diamonds|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d7|nt|kit: and so he did|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|dinos1: will pitch @c on @h|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|nt|wygbe1: declarer in good position, with h set up |pg||
nt|avivs: I think 2Nt was a clear bid for Zia|pg||
nt|dinos1: or o/ruff and pitch @c on @d|pg||
nt|dinos1: so make - lose 2 trumps only|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|c6|pc|s2|pg||
nt|ritong: too many hooks working|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|nt|jtr: may make 11 now|pg||
pc|c3|pc|d8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|nt|ritong: zia worried|pg||
nt|kit: and now he makes extras, as diamond wasn't covered|pg||
pc|c9|nt|dinos1: and only 1 trump|pg||
nt|wygbe1: looks like its over, no way for zia to ge more than one trump trick|pg||
nt|dinos1: @h10 - promotes @s8|pg||
nt|dinos1: @c - ruff, and @h|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|h3|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|h9|pc|s9|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|jtr: Same score|pg||
pc|s6|pc|c7|pc|sA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1STH82DQJ64CAKJ976,SA832HAT9DK32CT85,SK975HKJ543DA7C32,SQJ64HQ76DT985CQ4|sv|o|nt|rado: NS will reach 3NT here|pg||
mb|2C|nt|rado: 5-4 i majors:-)))))))|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|nt|rado: with normak K@d from hand seem as 8 tricks only|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg||
nt|sybarra: yes, I think most of us would play same |pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|c2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|c6|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d6|nt|sybarra:  hand comes crashing down around declarer|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h3|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|c7|pg||
nt|rado: ducking @H earlier would have helped for 8 tricks now less|pg||
nt|sybarra: that combined with playing low @D|pg||
nt|vugraphb1: Mihov said so|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|h4|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|mc|9|pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2S865HKJ83D73CA853,SA93H97DAT92CK642,SQJ42HQT2DK64CQJT,SKT7HA654DQJ85C97|sv|n|nt|wygbe1: norway in 3c in the other room|pg||
nt|skjaeran: 1 IMP for USA|pg||
nt|pef: wow a hand with no suits longer than 4 cards|pg||
nt|kit: might even be passed out|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|jtr: lol not even close|pg||
mb|1H|nt|pef: are you kidding kit, who passes 11 counts in the bermuda bowl finals these days :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Both American teams in the other finals are doing very well. Seniors 82 up against Indonesia, ladies +56 against Germany|pg||
nt|pef: especially such highly distributional ones|pg||
mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|pef: looks like this will make with perhaps an overtrick|pg||
pc|d3|nt|avivs: a @s lead will beat it|pg||
pc|d2|nt|kit: not a successful lead|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|dinos1: @sJ - the only lead|pg||
nt|wygbe1: 3c down one in the other room |pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg||
nt|wygbe1: nine more for norway|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|dT|nt|pef: katz also opened 1d in the closed room|pg||
nt|skjaeran: One IMP back.|pg||
nt|jtr: Norway get their IMP back|pg||
pc|h2|pc|d8|pc|h3|pg||
nt|pef: but the queen of clubs was led preventing the overtrick|pg||
nt|jtr: Norway often only tend to lend IMPs:)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sT|nt|skjaeran: Brogeland opened 1@c here.|pg||
pc|h8|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2S865HKJ83D73CA853,SA93H97DAT92CK642,SQJ42HQT2DK64CQJT,SKT7HA654DQJ85C97|sv|n|mb|1D|nt|rado: so called South African ultra transfer or namyats|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|rado: 4@C/@d showing @H/@s and a hand much stronger than norma 4M preemept|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|rado: seems 5@D is asking p to bid slam if @D control available|pg||
mb|p|nt|rado: and 5NT showing 1st round control leaving room for investigating grand|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c7|nt|rado: kibs helping tt 5NT = control + 2 Aces|pg||
nt|vugraphb1: 5@d is asking what happens in @D|pg||
nt|rado: in fact small slam needs @s 2-2 or singl Q + @C finesse|pg||
nt|vugraphb1: 5N is this or second control and Ace aside|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|rado: which is fa below 50 % normally needed for small slam|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c5|mc|7|nt|rado: but as many say good slam is that which is made|pg||
nt|rado: A and another @D to check KQx in S hand|pg||
nt|rado: or to reach some pseudo squeeze position |pg||
pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3SAQ9654HJ83DT3CK9,SK72H9DQ92CAQT754,SJ8H76542D865CJ83,ST3HAKQTDAKJ74C62|sv|b|nt|dinos1: was told Garner led @sJ|pg||
nt|ndemirev: did they bid @S|pg||
nt|pef: sorry, I meant the "also opened" part|pg||
nt|jtr: slam time|pg||
nt|pef: this has actually been quite low scoring for such a wild set of boards|pg||
nt|Walddk2: West in 5@C next door|pg||
nt|Walddk2: They were on their way to slam, but ....|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|pef: only slam time if you are an extreme optimist :)|pg||
mb|1S|nt|skjaeran: You can make 6@d. Not that it's a good slam.|pg||
mb|2C|nt|Walddk2: 6@D is the slam to be in|pg||
nt|jtr: always:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|jtr: Much too good for you though Roland|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Indeed|pg||
nt|kit: the overcall may improve their chances of reaching a slam|pg||
mb|3D|nt|jtr: 6@h would be your choice|pg||
mb|p|nt|pef: yes, no revokes required to make|pg||
mb|3S|nt|swanson: 6@D is rather better than 6@C of a few hands ago.|pg||
mb|p!|mb|4C|nt|kit: I think they will reach 6@D after this start|pg||
nt|pef: i see that zia's pass of 3s was alerted|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: 4@h-4@s now maybe?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Zia's pass alerted. Likely "I like the suit led"|pg||
nt|kit: exactly|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Double would be "I don't have a world class suit"|pg||
nt|pef: do they play the convention that a double would ask for a lead other than in spades if partner is on lead?|pg||
nt|ritong: brogeland likes his hand|pg||
nt|jtr: Zia will lead the @c9 vs 6@d|pg||
nt|ritong: he could also bid 3nt|pg||
nt|swanson: The spade overcall makes the West hand look better.|pg||
mb|4H|nt|dburn: they may, as happened in this room, have bid everything else|pg||
nt|kit: East will probably bid 4@H, then if West bids 4@S, East may up and bid the slam|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|avivs: Garner led the @sJ and did well to go up with the @cA but then continued @c... so no swing|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Nu sidder de i Norge og krydser fingre for, at ØV melder ruderslemmen|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Indeed|pg||
nt|jtr: I agree|pg||
nt|pef: some specs are asking what's the advantage of double suggesting a lead of another suit.  I'm sure one of my fellow commentators can answer that|pg||
mb|5D|nt|kit: not a good slam in a vacuum, but after the overcall the slam is a lot better.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: if you have a bad suit you dont mind doubling and allowing them the options|pg||
nt|skjaeran: That's because if you double to show a good suit it helps opps finding combined half stoppers - extra space|pg||
mb|p|nt|ndemirev: trumps or try @H for @D discards? |pg||
nt|dinos1: wdnt crash @hQ|pg||
nt|cascade: hi|pg||
nt|swanson: Generally you wnat the suit you bid led - the unusual call is to double.|pg||
pc|dT|nt|kit: the 5@D call really surprises me -- he has great controls, good trumps, and his partner has been making encouraging noises|pg||
nt|jtr: since they were bidding 3NT anyway|pg||
nt|kit: Maybe he isn't worth bidding slam on his own, but surely some kind of encouraging bid is called for.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Which options did he have over 4@S?|pg||
nt|jtr: I wonder if he had 4NT available as a try|pg||
nt|skjaeran: I'm quite sure 4NT would be KC.|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
nt|kit: even if 4NT would be RKC (shudder), he could bid 5@C couldn't he?|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|dA|nt|dinos1: hmm|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
nt|jtr: ?|pg||
nt|swanson: The double meaning 'don't lead my suit' usually starts at the 3 or 4 level when the opponents are in a game forcing auction.|pg||
pc|dK|nt|pef: well the upshot of all this is most likely an imp back to the usa|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg||
pc|s3|nt|jtr: Why no @h ruff?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: How Peter?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: They scored 600 in the CR|pg||
pc|s6|nt|wygbe1: strange line|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pg||
nt|dburn: how are we doing?|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sT|nt|pef: although I know that sabine auken and daniella van armin play it at the two level and above|pg||
nt|skjaeran: 580 here??|pg||
nt|pef: sorry, meant an imp to norway|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3SAQ9654HJ83DT3CK9,SK72H9DQ92CAQT754,SJ8H76542D865CJ83,ST3HAKQTDAKJ74C62|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|2C|nt|rado: EW may reach 3NT but @c break badly|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|4H|an|rkc|mb|p|nt|rado: with normal @H lead decl will play @D to dummy and @C finesse|pg||
mb|4N|an|41|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
nt|rado: 5@C tricks and 3 from every other suit providing best defence|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c6|nt|rado: now South seen the count in @D take the A and ...........|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|nt|rado: @S exit was killing|pg||
nt|rado: I bet Stefanov will have comment|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|vugraphb1: asked kindly for more normal defences :)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SJT642HJ76DAQ74C2,SK3HQDJT53CT98654,SQ5HAT843DK96CAK7,SA987HK952D82CQJ3|sv|o|nt|wygbe1: got lucky on the club split|pg||
nt|dburn: not lucky enough|pg||
nt|joegrue: 3d?|pg||
nt|pef: i get the two countries confused at this hour|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Most interesting set this has been; I am sure everyone agrees|pg||
nt|pef: a lot of very interesting bidding problems|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|avivs: Michael must be very tired... usually he makes these contracts in his sleep|pg||
mb|p|nt|joegrue: thats my choiceP|pg||
nt|kit: everyone except the USA players maybe|pg||
nt|jtr: Does that mean you want to charge extra Roland?|pg||
mb|1H|nt|pef: starting with the second board where apparently you need to get to 6c down at least 3 :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: well, sometimes he makes them in everybody else's sleep|pg||
nt|dburn: but he played that one at pretty high speed|pg||
mb|2C|nt|ndemirev: he must have had some reason to choose this line |pg||
nt|pef: 2c is drury, of course|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Last set today is in 50 minutes|pg||
mb|p|nt|skjaeran: Which version do they play?|pg||
nt|jtr: reverse it seems|pg||
mb|2N!|nt|kit: North will get to 4@H after the Drury bid|pg||
nt|kit: and the play will be quite interesting I believe|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C!|nt|ndemirev: only 4-1 and 5-2 sets him |pg||
nt|dburn: and his line had a very high percentage, so it's far from clear that it was wrong|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N!|mb|p|nt|jtr: Surely it was 12 tricks last hand?|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer has to guess hearts to make this game, in notrump or hearts.|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|avivs: very untipical for him... he usually take a long time when facing so many different lines|pg||
nt|pef: yes, which will pose an interesting play problem|pg||
mb|p|nt|rado: s brdcheda she pliushtite li?|pg||
mb|p|nt|dinos1: bad @h split follows from opening lead|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Crikey|pg||
nt|pef: kit and I seem to have the same thought within about 1/2 a second of each other tonight|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Wots that Rado?|pg||
nt|kit: On a low heart lead from dummy, might a sharp West find the queen from Q9 doubleton?|pg||
nt|pef: right a classic high-level falsecard|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Norway played 2@s+2 in CR.|pg||
nt|kit: And there are other problems -- in practice, I think declarer will ruff a club in dummy and lead the jack of hearts, and West will astutely cover|pg||
nt|skjaeran: +1 that is|pg||
nt|ritong: second that kit|pg||
nt|ritong: although he might manage to reach dummy w a @d to preserve options|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|wygbe1: seems he could have tried h before leading second spade|pg||
nt|pef: in the closed room, south opened the dreaded 5 card suit multi which led to playing two levels lower in spades|pg||
nt|kit: East makes the normal and logical lead|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Can he make it all on that lead?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I don't think so|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Grøtheim opened a weak multi with the south hand - too good for 2@d in my methods.|pg||
nt|kit: double-dummy -- sure.  |pg||
nt|kareno: What time is the match tomorrow?  I can do it but need to know.. love to do it!|pg||
nt|kit: Cash ace of hearts, and then go after spades -- piece of cake|pg||
nt|pef: michael is a very careful declarer.  i imagine he will think quite a while here|pg||
nt|kareno: Sorry meant to be private |pg||
nt|Walddk2: A spectators tells me that Kit is wrong. GIB says it can't make|pg||
nt|ritong: gib is not human|pg||
nt|kareno: But we should not use GIB here since it knows all the cards and declarer doesn't.|pg||
pc|c2|nt|kareno: Seems unfair.|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pg||
nt|wygbe1: then he could still fall back on spade finesse if h got trumped|pg||
nt|Walddk2: That's not the point, Karen|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|h6|pc|c4|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|Walddk2: I don't use GIB either, merely quoting what a spectator told me|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|joegrue: ya but they continued hearts ,, they r likely to be 5/2|pg||
nt|jtr: @d ruff comes into play double dummy i think|pg||
pc|d9|nt|dinos1: ruff-overruf - then guess?|pg||
nt|wygbe1: split spade honors is pretty good odds|pg||
nt|ndemirev: you take the finess then|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg||
nt|pef: so the line we thought most likely occurred and michael is going down|pg||
pc|h7|nt|skjaeran: I think this was a very reasonable line.|pg||
pc|c5|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg||
nt|ritong: it was certainly a natural move|pg||
nt|kit: for sure -- since that is as good a way to play heart suit as any|pg||
nt|pef: in fact he can beat it two now by returning the j of clubs|pg||
nt|pef: or the 8 of diamonds|pg||
nt|Walddk2: After the lead the defence would always be able to pump dummy with clubs|pg||
nt|Walddk2: So there was no way to make it|pg||
nt|kit: But he doesn't know his partner has king of spades|pg||
nt|ritong: @c ten will tell him|pg||
nt|jtr: Another Groety multi next door|pg||
nt|kit: so when he gets in with king of hearts, he won't lead a spade to get the trump promotion|pg||
nt|pef: the germans have it back down to 41 imps in the venice cup, so that match certainly isn't over|pg||
nt|swanson: 3NT offered a better play - declarer just needs to bring in the hearts for 4 winners, and might well do so.|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|s4|pc|c9|pg||
nt|kit: from Easts point of view the contract could be on a spade guess,so he will exit safely|pg||
nt|Walddk2: There is no safe exit now|pg||
nt|kit: why not?|pg||
nt|ritong: @c 10 would be an indication, not an order, so i m surprised with boye's 9|pg||
nt|kit: Suppose declarer started with Kx of spades instead of Qx|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|s2|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|s6|pc|cT|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Now you will see why Sælensminde had to play a spade|pg||
nt|pef: oops|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s8|nt|Walddk2: Low spade now|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
nt|kit: declarer doesn't know the position|pg||
nt|Walddk2: and Brogeland is endplayed|pg||
nt|skjaeran: That @DT from Brogeland could have cost!|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SJT642HJ76DAQ74C2,SK3HQDJT53CT98654,SQ5HAT843DK96CAK7,SA987HK952D82CQJ3|sv|o|nt|stanned: Mihov , counted declarer's points and they are definetelly less than expected 18-19|pg||
nt|vugraphb1: the explanation of 2N misleaded Mihov ... he was searching for 18-19 points|pg||
nt|stanned: so no room for K@s in Stefanov's hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|rado: 1 point deviation must always be considered|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|rado: especially when good 6 cards suit avaialable|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|rado: @D transfer and acceptance= not perfect help in @D|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|rado: 6@C seems better than 3NT here|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg||
nt|rado: only @H lead may broke 6!@C|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sT|pc|c6|pc|h3|pc|s8|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|c5|pc|h4|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s6|mc|9|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1SKJ986H7DK94CQJT6,SAQT52HQ9DJ53C972,S7HJT6432DQT7CA83,S43HAK85DA862CK54|sv|n|nt|joegrue: he didnt optimize his line|pg||
nt|dinos1: or top?|pg||
nt|ndemirev: that's clearly better|pg||
nt|jtr: Nice position|pg||
nt|jtr: A 'winkle' i am told|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: This could be costly for Norway|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Grøtheim as South is in 2@SX in the closed room|pg||
nt|pef: a shame he didn't work out the winkle|pg||
nt|Walddk2: That is no picnic|pg||
mb|2D!|an|multi|nt|pef: zia and michael play a more conventional multi here, so he may open 2d|pg||
nt|pef: as he just did|pg||
nt|jtr: Misfired Groety Multi?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes|pg||
mb|d|nt|Walddk2: The defence had it 800 down, now he can escape for 500 if he reads it|pg||
nt|jtr: oh well, won one. lost one, drew one|pg||
mb|p!|nt|dburn: South probably did not have @sK, since he might have shifted to diamonds if he did, but nothing was clear|pg||
nt|kit: well, somebody had to open multi with the N-s cards|pg||
nt|pef: last time I opened multi third seat vul. at imps on that suit, partner got very cranky with me|pg||
nt|jtr: Not if partner opens one first|pg||
nt|kit: I wonder what Zia's pass means|pg||
nt|swanson: Is it mandatory to put one's neck on the block vul against not on these cards?|pg||
mb|p|nt|joegrue: he from trickone on|pg||
nt|wygbe1: yes thats why try h before leading the second spade|pg||
nt|jtr: help?|pg||
mb|2H|nt|Walddk2: Hope it doesn't show diamonds|pg||
nt|kit: I wouldn't have thought that normal for Rosenberg -- maybe somewhat influenced by state of match|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No|pg||
nt|pef: well they play 2h and 2s are sound weak 2's|pg||
nt|kit: Now if E-W can get together on this, they have a penalty coming it looks like|pg||
nt|jtr: This is certainly unsound|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|pef: so 2d for them is a bad weak 2, but still I don't see the advantage in third seat with that sort of hand|pg||
nt|kit: If East couldn't double for penalties, then maybe a double by West is takeout|pg||
nt|ritong: being in third seat has a small advantage|pg||
nt|jtr: It depends what the X meant|pg||
mb|2S|nt|pef: although if west now bids spades then I guess it was a great 2d opening|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: Some play it as t/o of @ss|pg||
nt|ritong: you know that pard won t drag you to slam|pg||
nt|kit: out of the woods!|pg||
mb|2N|nt|jtr: here it is probably a weak NT|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|dburn: I guess 4@c shows both majors|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: and 4@d is a transfer to 4@h|pg||
mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|jtr: defence needs to get @cs going quickly|pg||
nt|jtr: This is quite quick:)|pg||
nt|kit: And 3NT looks like it will fail unless there is some kind of end position|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Only 8 tricks even with the double finesse in spades|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Looks like 11 IMPs back to USA|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s4|nt|jtr: Good to get a wicket just before the break|pg||
nt|kit: there is some squeeze potential as West holds spades over South and East holds hearts over north|pg||
pc|s9|nt|avivs: not a very successful X but only overtricks at stake|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ndemirev: 4@C might be showing a good hand |pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer has a shot here by ducking a diamond.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Zia's singleton heart should have been the 10 or the jack; then it would make|pg||
nt|kit: But I doubt if anything real can materialize with correct defense.|pg||
nt|pef: isn't it best to lead a club now?|pg||
nt|jtr: @s destroys the squeeze after @cs|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|nt|ndemirev: (with both M)|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h6|pg||
nt|kit: well, if there might have been a squeeze there won't be after ace of diamonds play|pg||
nt|jtr: He is playing for 3-3@ss i guess|pg||
pc|sA|pc|h2|nt|pef: that was a strange play, his legitimate chance was a stiff j or 10 with south after the spade finesse worked|pg||
pc|c4|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Now he wouldn't even make it if Zia had a stiff H honour|pg||
nt|pef: beat you, roland|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|Walddk2: Because the suit is blocked and no entry|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h9|nt|ndemirev: otherwise there would be a L3 bid available |pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|hK|pc|d9|pc|s2|pc|h3|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
nt|pef: so after this board the segment will be 26-26|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|c3|nt|swanson: There is a lot to be said for playing for the spade suit.  South could have started with five clubs.|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1SKJ986H7DK94CQJT6,SAQT52HQ9DJ53C972,S7HJT6432DQT7CA83,S43HAK85DA862CK54|sv|n|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|s7|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|h3|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|cA|pc|d8|pg||
nt|stanned: hi all|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|h4|nt|stanned: wlcm Rado|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|rado: hi all, hoping to see some good bridge now|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hK|pc|sK|pc|d5|pc|h6|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|s5|mc|6|pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2SK982HA95D8652C94,S6HKT4D43CAKQT652,SJ73HQJ832DAKT7C8,SAQT54H76DQJ9CJ73|sv|e|nt|jtr: This is the last board of the stanza now people|pg||
nt|jtr: Today's final 16 boards will commence in about 24 minutes 32 seconds|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: thx all :)|pg||
nt|pef: 3n makes here, but usa was in 4c in the closed room|pg||
nt|jtr: That is 2:10 am Los Angeles, 5:10 am New York, 11.10 Paris, 10:10 am London, 7:10 pm Sydney  |pg||
nt|jtr: Many thanks to our hard working operator in Shanghai, Frederic Volcker.  Well done Frederic|pg||
mb|1C|nt|wygbe1: on that 4s hand, in the other room they got a club lead and banged down the spade ace, with gratifying results|pg||
nt|dburn: either Zia has taken up Precision, or that is a misprint, or that is a psyche|pg||
nt|dinos1: yes))|pg||
nt|avivs: I guess you can psych a strong 2@c opening at the Bermuda Bowl|pg||
nt|dburn: you can|pg||
mb|1H|nt|jtr: Our appreciation to the WBF for their co-operation in allowing us to present this wonderful event  |pg||
mb|d!|an|4+!s|nt|dburn: but I don't believe he did|pg||
nt|dinos1: ok now))|pg||
nt|ndemirev: that can't be vulnerable in 1st chair |pg||
nt|dinos1: 2@d - michaels|pg||
nt|avivs: 2@d is Michaels (like in defense vs Polish @c)|pg||
nt|nickf: SNOT prob too hard as playing DC pairs.|pg||
nt|jtr: and to our co-ordinator in Shanghai and Hervé Lustman who has been instrumental in the arrangements for us.|pg||
nt|nickf: sorry private|pg||
nt|jtr: Thanks also to my excellent fellow commentators, Harald, Peter and Kit whose additions have hopefully added to your enjoyment|pg||
mb|2H|nt|pef: and to roland wald for arranging all of these vugraph matches as well as providing education in the queen of sports, cricket|pg||
nt|jtr: And finally, the ubiquitous Roland without whose organisation this would not be possible|pg||
mb|3C!|an|strong|nt|kit: You would think that West might envision 3NT with 7 club tricks and a stopper in their bid and raised suit|pg||
nt|pef: or even his organization|pg||
nt|pef: you would think so, kit|pg||
mb|p|nt|pef: looks like they play weak/strong 2n there|pg||
mb|3H|nt|dinos1: guess 2@c wd be nat|pg||
nt|pef: so they will get there anyway|pg||
nt|jtr: they didnt earlier|pg||
nt|ritong: hence 3@c forcing|pg||
nt|kit: this will get them there|pg||
nt|pef: or maybe just 2n would be a realy to 3c|pg||
nt|kit: I don't think 3@C is forcing, but it shows a good hand|pg||
mb|d|nt|jtr: Board 8|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|avivs: this might go down if declarer missguesses the @h's|pg||
nt|dinos1: after @s3-0 will guess @h|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: nice to know you are getting a heart lead also|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Maybe Norway will declare the innings during the break. We shall see. Back in 20 minutes or so. Don't miss it!|pg||
nt|jtr: And Zia's double earlier said not to lead the suit|pg||
nt|pef: "declare the innings???"|pg||
nt|kit: well, he might not be getting a heart lead, but dummy has the needed diamond help|pg||
nt|pef: I think in this case, it probably said to lead the suit|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Never mind  Peter. I'll teach you some day|pg||
nt|ritong: freeze|pg||
nt|swanson: The US team is being unlucky in this match so far - Norway is playing about 50 IMPs better than they are.|pg||
nt|kit: why wouldn't Zia want a heart lead?|pg||
pc|dK|nt|jtr: I think the introduction of soccer into the USA is enough of a culture shock Roland;  let alone cricket|pg||
pc|d9|nt|pef: michael followed kits earlier advice here|pg||
nt|skjaeran: For the first time in his life Grøtheim finished before the other table.|pg||
nt|pef: thank you spectators for the many cogent explanations of roland's terminology|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Even if he started 10 minutes earlier.|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h7|nt|kareno: How about endplaying east with the third spade after elimination?|pg||
nt|dinos1: oh yes - @s endplay|pg||
pc|h9|nt|ndemirev: @C are 7-2 |pg||
nt|avivs: I guess he can strip endplay East...|pg||
nt|wygbe1: definitely best|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|ndemirev: so you have 7:5 in favor of misguess|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pg||
nt|swanson: Many seem to have misunderstood my previous comment - Norway entirely deserves their lead.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|dT|pc|cJ|nt|pef: so a well deserved aliquot of imps (that's a chemistry term, Roland) to the Norwegians on the final board of the set|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h3|pc|s4|pc|d8|pg||
pc|c6|nt|vugraphs2: ty all |pg||
nt|vugraphs2: back in about 1 hour|pg||
nt|ndemirev: thanks all |pg||
nt|wygbe1: usa landed in 3h on 14 on a seven card fit|pg||
nt|wygbe1: over 3d, weinstein doubled instead of overcalling 3s, and his pd with 33 in majors naturally preferenced 3h|pg||
nt|wygbe1: how many boards are left?|pg||
nt|dinos1: not clear if 3@s is better than X. I prefer X|pg||
nt|dinos1: 2|pg||
nt|vugraphs2: 64 boards left after this segment|pg||
nt|vugraphs2: 2 boards left in open room|pg||
nt|wygbe1: not clear, thats true, but one drawback of dbl is pd will choose hearts with equal holdings|pg||
nt|wygbe1: with 4sp and 5h, double would be clear|pg||
nt|dinos1: another - he can1) pass, 2) bid @c, 3) have 4@h and 1-2 @s|pg||
nt|dinos1: and @sA10xxx isnt great suit|pg||
nt|dinos1: just preempt worked|pg||
nt|wygbe1: well that is all true, it is a problem for sure|pg||
nt|wygbe1: preempts create problems|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c5|nt|skjaeran: Kibs tell me Grøtheim finished before HH last set too, so twice in a row.|pg||
pc|h8|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c2|pc|hJ|nt|pef: looks like declarer is going to be able to afford a diamond for an overtrick now|pg||
pc|sT|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ritong: making 7 imps anyway|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s7|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|pef: wait a second|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|ritong: or more, when vul|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|hT|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: bye bye :)|pg||
nt|pef: wow, he tried to go down by taking a spade finesse|pg||
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qx|c16|st||md|2SK982HA95D8652C94,S6HKT4D43CAKQT652,SJ73HQJ832DAKT7C8,SAQT54H76DQJ9CJ73|sv|e|mb|1C|nt|rado: another 14-16 NT?|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|3C|mb|3H|mb|4C|nt|stanned: this is the match between 2nd(Bulgaria) and 4th (Serbia)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d5|nt|rado: from E point @C lead seems normal|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
mc|10|nt|rado: now 9 tricks are easy|pg||
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