vg|Bermuda Bowl 2007,1_2 F - seg 6_6 - A,I,1,32,USA 1,178,SOUTH AFRICA,162|
rs|,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,3CN-3,2DS-3,2DSx-1,2SW=,3DS=,3DS=,5NS-1,6NN-2,2NS=,2DWx-3,3SN+1,3HN-1,4HS+1,4HS+1,3SW+2,4SW=,3DN=,3DN=,4SN-2,2SN=,6DN=,4HS-1,2SW+2,2HS=,4SW=,4SE=,4SE+2,5DSx-2,3SN-1,4CWx-1,4SN=,4SN+1|
pn|Weinstein,Holman,Garner,Cope,APTEKER,Zia,Gower,Rosenberg|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3S543H98DKT8742C63,SQJ76HADAQ93CJT54,SAK2HKQ652DCK9872,ST98HJT743DJ65CAQ|sv|o|nt|phicro: nous vous rappelons que ce 1:4 de finale se dispute en 96 donnes|pg||
nt|ritong: en six segments de 16|pg||
nt|phicro: le score tient compte d'un carry over positif de 16 points pour les Françaises|pg||
nt|kareno: We had plenty of excitement yesterday with these two teams.|pg||
nt|kareno: Ahhh.. more LONG suits :)|pg||
nt|kit: hi all|pg||
nt|amadala: fantoni nunes here|pg||
nt|Zmud99: Shuffle up and deal !!!!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome back to Kut Woolsey, and welcome to Tom Jacob from New Zealand|pg||
nt|kit: A huge result for Italy in the closed room|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: ok lets go |pg||
nt|Walddk2: *Kit|pg||
nt|brolucius: At the other table North had a very borderline raise of 3@S to 4@S. The Italians doubled and put up a wonderful defence to extract the maximum.|pg||
nt|brolucius: After scoring his heart ruff, West underled the @DA!|pg||
nt|motbocaj: Hello everyone, I guess it has been awhile since Italy have been down 38 at this stage of a quarterfinal|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: ok lets go|pg||
nt|swanson: One reason for the Italian loss in the previous match was, in addition to the solid SA play, that Fantoni and Nunes were way off their game.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Another advantage of watching in the Open Room is that we get the best VG operator: the great Frederic!|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: lol :)|pg||
mb|1H|nt|fann4: So in the CR, the transfer auction made E declarer, getting S off to the @C lead.|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: this might not be so dull if they get to slam|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I can't recall when that happened |pg||
nt|Walddk2: 17 still being played in the closed room|pg||
mb|1N|nt|dinos1: he llo everyone|pg||
mb|d!|nt|kit: but North might lead a spade if West declares, and South can find the club shift|pg||
nt|swanson: 3NT is the winner - tough to turn down the 6-2 heart fit though.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Zia passed in that position as West, surprisingly|pg||
nt|brolucius: South at the other table had to choose whether to bid diamonds or give preference to hearts. Neither would play well, it seems.|pg||
nt|joest: I thought Zia was up in this match, not down :)|pg||
mb|3C!|nt|kit: Not after the 2@D overcall though|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Weinstein as West is in 2@CX|pg||
nt|jwit: May be duplicated here|pg||
nt|kit: likely will have same choice here|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Double of 1NT shows a takeout double of 1@H if you know what I mean|pg||
nt|kit: except a level higher|pg||
nt|barnets: trouble now|pg||
mb|p|nt|3for3: Not a great slam, by any stretch of the imagination|pg||
nt|kit: no, but it got better after the overcall|pg||
nt|Walddk2: ×¯¼ÒÈÌÈÃ2¶Õ @h ºó£¬ @s Ó¦¸Ã»á²ÉÈ¡¹æ±Ü´ò·¨   is my analysis and I believe it's correct|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1@H  (2@C)  pass  pass  ;   double   all pass|pg||
nt|lc: Some would raise to 2@H with Rosenberg's hand.|pg||
nt|joest: this might skate but if Howard takes a preference.....|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: Rosenberg has the values for a single raise, but with great defense against clubs would rather defend.|pg||
nt|kit: and that higher level might get the stakes increased|pg||
nt|kit: Weinstein sensibly passes the undoubled contract|pg||
nt|bjacobs: unlikely I guess|pg||
nt|bjacobs: West has said his piece|pg||
nt|joest: doubling 3@c and leading two rounds of clubs would have been strong|pg||
nt|brolucius: Cope may have flirted with the idea of 3NT. It was a complete guess how strong his partner was. North-South sounded like they had fair values, though. |pg||
nt|kit: difficult for East to double -- he doesn't know for sure his partner has club length|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: chez les seniors les français ont bien démarré et refait un carryover negatif de 14 imps|pg||
nt|ritong: avec les interêts|pg||
nt|avivs: I doubt North will cooporate and South doesn't have enough to go past 4@h|pg||
nt|barnets: it would not have been impossible for east to x 3C|pg||
pc|sT|nt|phicro: bonne entame d'Est qui a compris que sa partenaire était courte à Pique|pg||
nt|ritong: après la victoire sur les blacks, le vent souffle dans la bonne direction pour nos equipes|pg||
nt|3for3: Cope should hate his hand|pg||
nt|kit: Italy also big dame, but 3NT which is a lot harder to double|pg||
nt|brolucius: Both 3@S and Double have flaws. A bidding panel might be divided between them.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Brief summary of the Italian system:  1NT  12-14   frequent 5422 and 6322, all 1-level openings are 14+ hcp, forcing, 4+ cards in minors, 5+ in majors. 2-level openings are 10-13 ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: hcp, 5+ cards|pg||
nt|kit: This may get them to 3NT|pg||
nt|barnets: his partner made a takeout x and he has the hearts|pg||
nt|brolucius: What would East have done over 2@C? No obvious action available.|pg||
pc|s3|nt|3for3: with qx of clubs|pg||
nt|kareno: And it will likely go down.|pg||
nt|kit: in 6@H, if declarer could get that club ruff in dummy he would wind up with a show-up squeeze on West -- but he can't|pg||
nt|Walddk2: But if they get there, the overcall may have given away the show re @DQ|pg||
nt|kit: I don't think the queen of diamonds would have much effect on Whether East would have overcalled or not|pg||
nt|3for3: if they play hearts, just down on a club ruff|pg||
nt|kareno: Not really - he shows A of hearts and K 7 times in clubs.. what more do you need for an overcall?|pg||
nt|fann4: No, especially when E turns up with 7@C.|pg||
nt|kit: right -- 6@H will be down quickly|pg||
pc|s6|nt|kit: but if he passes .....|pg||
nt|lc: Rosenberg can't really double since his partner could have been light in third seat.|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|avivs: 61d might be a better slam if he can get trumps right|pg||
nt|kit: Not only that, if East doesn't shift to a spade when in with his king of diamonds, declarer might have an end-play to make|pg||
nt|brolucius: With regard to North's decision whether to bid again opposite a 3@S overcall, the text-books say that South will have allowed for about 8 points opposite. You should raise if you ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: have any more than that. Here North's @HK was a dubious value.|pg||
nt|brolucius: No doubt the South African North, at the other table, was expecting the Italians to bid aggressively from the start - aiming to catch up IMPs - and thought he had better match ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: them.|pg||
nt|motbocaj: Might they have been expecting Italy to bid the game in a similar position given the state of the match?|pg||
nt|kit: However, I think declarer will probably pin his hopes on the spade suit and play a low spade off dummy|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The three other quarter-finals in the Bermuda Bowl is virtually over. It takes a major miracle for Australia, Sweden and China to come back against USA1, Netherlands and Norway|pg||
nt|dinos1: N has commun  problems|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Sorry for the typo   *are over|pg||
nt|brolucius: Nevertheless, it was a splendid Bermuda Bowl for Australia - for whom there were no great hopes back home, I am told.|pg||
nt|motbocaj: And I see they are changing their trials format now :)|pg||
nt|lc: So, this looks like down 1 to me  (2 @H  4@S and the @CA)|pg||
pc|hK|nt|kareno: So a good stop for SA|pg||
nt|reisig: are these the real comments?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The South Africans have judged very well so far in this match|pg||
nt|kareno: Are you a real commentator?  @h Richie|pg||
nt|reisig: @h|pg||
nt|kit: hi Richie|pg||
nt|kareno: Kit :)|pg||
nt|reisig: hiua Kit :)|pg||
nt|reisig: hiya|pg||
nt|kit: West will get a club ruff -- and then declarer will have the show-up squeeze I was talking about to make 5|pg||
nt|swanson: He would probably have taken a chunk out of 3NT, however.  It was well Cope didn't push to game.|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|nt|fann4: A possible 1 imp to ITA.|pg||
nt|kit: So unless Rosenberg makes an inspired lead, game swing to SA|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I would be impressed if he finds a club|pg||
nt|lc: But, maybe declarer can get home by working on @D?|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|robinswr: can't think of any reason not to lead a diamond|pg||
nt|kit: Next time Zia will overcall 1@S|pg||
nt|swanson: Pass should be in the picture also.|pg||
nt|jwit: Yes, I was thinking the same thing Larry|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|nt|jwit: Good start|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|dinos1: down 1 is good result here|pg||
nt|kit: declarer playing for the 4-1 split, rather than crossing to his hand for a spade play up to avoid misguessing|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|nt|lc: If defense continue @H, declarer can set up @D for 8th trick.|pg||
pc|h9|nt|kit: when there is a choice between bidding and passing, pass isn't in the picture :)|pg||
nt|robinswr: 6-4 is usually a good offensive hand|pg||
nt|kit: declarer led low heart off dummy to guard against South having stiff ace -- sensible on the auction|pg||
nt|kit: he has both minor-suit entries to his hand, so he should be okay|pg||
nt|robinswr: cashing two spades will save an imp|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|kit: West will have to guard spades, so will be forced to pitch a diamond -- and then dropping doubl queen of diamonds automatic|pg||
nt|kit: But he is basically playing for down 1|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|nt|kit: However, East better cash his ace of hearts|pg||
pc|s9|nt|kit: Zia trusts his partner to have king of spades since low spade shift|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|barnets: a  small chance missed|pg||
pc|s7|pc|h2|nt|robinswr: but that won't beat it|pg||
pc|d6|nt|robinswr: he needs his partner to have the ace of clubs|pg||
nt|kit: yes, but he knows his partner doesn't have it|pg||
nt|robinswr: could the 3 be from j63?|pg||
nt|robinswr: michael should lead the king|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|dinos1: cd not cash - 3r of @d's are also ok|pg||
nt|kit: It doesn't matter whether or not West cashes -- declarer has 8 tricks|pg||
nt|motbocaj: Given the result from the other room he doesn't gain that much for making this contract|pg||
nt|brolucius: The Italians have bitten a huge chunk off the South African lead, and still 15 boards to play.|pg||
nt|kit: does't West have any trumps to lead?|pg||
pc|d2|nt|lc: Would a @C shift by Zia have worked?  Let's see...|pg||
pc|d3|nt|kit: now club ruff, king of spades, spade ruff, run trumps|pg||
pc|c2|nt|mittmouse: y|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|lc: If declarer takes the @C shift with the @CA, defense has 6 tricks set up.|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg||
nt|bjacobs: He was hoping to promote his partner's middling trumps, but darned if partner only had high trumps1|pg||
pc|dA|pc|c7|nt|ritong: deux de chute apparemment|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg||
nt|kit: At lteast that's what he should have done -- he got a little careless|pg||
nt|kareno: Is that a safe line?|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|kit: why wouldn't it be safe?|pg||
pc|d8|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg||
nt|barnets: flat|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3S543H98DKT8742C63,SQJ76HADAQ93CJT54,SAK2HKQ652DCK9872,ST98HJT743DJ65CAQ|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|xenya: hello everyone|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|roghog: hi folks. all to play for here|pg||
mb|2D|nt|lesrays: hi, everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|roghog: a penalty to start with|pg||
nt|lesrays: loos like -1 at least if passed out|pg||
nt|lesrays: looks|pg||
nt|xenya: i'm not sure it'll end there|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|nt|lesrays: and how right you are|pg||
nt|xenya: et voila|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
pc|c4|nt|lesrays: I don't fancy this to make either...|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cQ|nt|xenya: no, and i have a feeling NS have escaped serious trouble|pg||
nt|lesrays: but it probably will, 2@s, 3@d3@c and 1@h, yes, if she can manage entries|pg||
nt|xenya: or maybe not -- it's a weird hand|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|cA|nt|roghog: well, if you give up a @c that's the defence's 5th trick|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|nt|lesrays: , but she will have to give defence@c K for 9th trick and that may be 5 for defence, fascinating|pg||
nt|lesrays: well that helps!!|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h5|pg||
mc|5|nt|lesrays: wow!!|pg||
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qx|o18|st||md|4ST5HK864DKT963CT6,SK986HJ75DAQCQ432,SQJ73HA2D74CAJ975,SA42HQT93DJ852CK8|sv|n|nt|kareno: Yes, he has ten tricks without the extra diamond I guess.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: IT's safe to cash @SK first|pg||
nt|kit: he had 10 top tricks|pg||
nt|kareno: Then that was the play.|pg||
nt|brolucius: And the only 'mistake' that SA made on that board was to bid a 25-point game!|pg||
nt|kit: well, italy also bid a 25-point game on the hand|pg||
nt|dinos1: ))|pg||
nt|swanson: Why put in the queen though, what combination does it gain?|pg||
nt|kit: it doesn't -- he was just showing partnership confidence|pg||
nt|Walddk2: On this deal, Weinstein as West is in 3@HX in the closed room|pg||
nt|mittmouse: c shift then back toh|pg||
nt|lc: So, yes it would have worked -- on to next hand though.  Not sure if it was reasonable or not for Zia to find it.|pg||
nt|jwit: EW would think they had an excellent result, but they're going to lose 2 imps|pg||
mb|p|nt|fann4: No, he is in 4@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|robinswr: again what would michael lead from Jxx|pg||
nt|lc: Probably c-fer then 3NT -- flattish|pg||
mb|1C|nt|phicro: On va sans doute jouer 1@h en Eo, maintenant|pg||
nt|kit: South Africans got a little carried away with their distribution in closed room|pg||
nt|brolucius: Cope-Holman will think they have made a a solid start to the session.|pg||
nt|kit: not the 3|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Apologies, 4@S it is|pg||
nt|lc: x-fer to 2@H then 3NT -- |pg||
mb|p|nt|fann4: This is interesting. Can NS make 3NT?|pg||
nt|kit: It still pays to have some high cards|pg||
nt|avivs: I'm sure he would have given it more thought if he was in 5 or 6|pg||
mb|1H|nt|kareno: I see.  |pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: 1NT =15-17|pg||
nt|brolucius: On two back-to-back boards yesterday, Helness and Helgemo found amazing doubles that picked up big swings. I dare say one of them might have doubled 3@C on the East hand but it was ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: not so attractive after North had voluntarily bid 3@C.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: oui, cheri bjerkan devrait eviter un reveil tendu|pg||
nt|kareno: No one doubled at least.|pg||
nt|kit: but they will win some IMPs, since they bid good 3NT, and now will double 4@H|pg||
nt|3for3: Bocchi Duboin passed throughout...rare to see them shut out like that|pg||
nt|Walddk2: But they will surely double in this room|pg||
nt|fann4: 4@S 1 down|pg||
nt|kit: E-W here missed a fair 3nT contract|pg||
nt|swanson: 3NT is an easy make with the @DQ falling and the @SQ where declarer wants it to be.|pg||
nt|robinswr: if is partner has AKx, he has to lead the 3 to get three spade tricks |pg||
nt|fann4: In the CR, once again the transfer response hurt EW, when S doubled 1@H.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: If Eber plays low from dummy now, we have a new leader. If he does not, we will have a tie|pg||
nt|swanson: It's OK if declarer covers here, he can lead towards the 8 later - but gets an extra trick by ducking.|pg||
mb|1N|nt|phicro: Et voilà|pg||
nt|motbocaj: So what are the right tactics +38 Kit, sit on the lead and play safe or be aggressive as you think the opposition may be?|pg||
nt|dinos1: good lay of @s|pg||
nt|kit: This contract will make comfortably|pg||
nt|kit: more comfortably after this lead|pg||
mb|d|nt|ritong: sa partenaire ayant passé au depart, les chances de manche sont trop minces et ne compensent pas une penalité possible|pg||
nt|kit: It shows the importance of getting in there with that 1NT overcall and not being afraid|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Another doubled contract in the closed room!|pg||
mb|2D|nt|robinswr: should guess spades, since its the percentage play|pg||
nt|Walddk2: This time 1@HX by South|pg||
nt|jwit: This should present no problems for declarer|pg||
mb|p|nt|reisig: won't be 3 down|pg||
nt|kit: North has very difficult lead problem here|pg||
nt|kareno: Heart leads give up a heart trick but get it back in spades.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 3 down seems a bit much|pg||
nt|3for3: Especially hard to double when the opener is 3rd seat favorable|pg||
nt|3for3: The 1nt overcall, that is|pg||
nt|fann4: Though vul opp a passed partner, 1NT looks ok, with those @S|pg||
nt|kareno: To me it looks like a normal 1NT overcall.|pg||
nt|swanson: If one wishes to look at previous hands or wants to know what is going on the other room, use the 'movie' button at the bottom of the window.|pg||
nt|lc: We're in the wrong room Roland!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Garner opened 1@C, now a 1@H overcall ...  and you know the rest|pg||
nt|lc: 1@H X vulnerable does not look so happy.  |pg||
nt|lc: Would you guys overcall 1@H at these colors?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Not I|pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: D'autant que le meilleur contrat de son camp sera souvent 1@h|pg||
nt|ritong: oui|pg||
nt|phicro: Je pense que Bénédicte devrait parvenir à sept levées, une fois la fumée dissipée|pg||
nt|kit: Cope find a winning opening lead, for sure|pg||
nt|kit: so another few IMPs to Italy|pg||
nt|lc: (No peeking at all 4 hands)  :)|pg||
nt|kit: this might be a costly balance|pg||
mb|d|nt|jwit: Typical imaginative lead from Zia, but will fare poorly this time|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|fann4: GIB says 1 down, double dummy of course.|pg||
nt|kareno: If he was going to pick an ace, he picked the right one.  |pg||
mb|p|pc|dA|nt|joest: borrowing a page from the last hand|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|nt|phicro: Il faut qu'elle ne se trompe pas à @h|pg||
nt|kit: I must admit I have no idea why he picked a club rather than a diamond|pg||
nt|kareno: Will he shift to hearts now?  South will I guess.|pg||
nt|brolucius: There is not much experience available of what to do when leading the Italians by 38 with one session to go.|pg||
nt|kit: just play like you are behind 38 IMPs is my suggestion|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|kit: tapping declarer looks very logical here|pg||
nt|kareno: Nope.  Permanent paralysis of the trump-leading finger by n/s|pg||
nt|swanson: A vulnerable 1@H overcall on the South cards is going to get what it deserves.|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|brolucius: A kibitzer very wisely suggests: keep doing what you were doing to lead by 38. Well said!|pg||
pc|d7|nt|jwit: Yes, no distribution, no texture|pg||
nt|kit: However, the hand is now going to play pretty well for declarer|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
nt|fann4: Is tapping any good when declarer is 6-5|pg||
nt|lc: So, why 1@D and not 1NT from Garner in the Closed Room?  I'll answer ...|pg||
nt|bjacobs: The defence can still nick it a trick by now going after hearts|pg||
nt|kit: if he can get 3 diamonds, 1 spade, 2 hearts, and 2 clubs that is 8 tricks|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Sweaty palms|pg||
nt|kit: but I don't think he can get all he needs in the black suits in time|pg||
nt|kit: I think he will go after spades right now -- that is one sure trick, maybe 2 on a good day|pg||
pc|s5|nt|dinos1: just play normal bridge) If u are unlucky - then u are|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
nt|phicro: Les Françaises ont perdu 2 points sur la donne précédente quand Pollack, avec les cartes de Sylvie Willard, a passé sur l'intervention de sa partenaire|pg||
nt|ritong: on discute pour la surlevée maintenant|pg||
pc|h5|nt|kit: and the heart shift comes just in time|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ritong: ecco|pg||
nt|avivs: I think he was just trying to give his partner a ruff...|pg||
nt|mittmouse: its almost like a textbook non h ocall|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|kareno: Finally|pg||
nt|jwit: However, Zia can give up a lot of overtricks and it won't matter|pg||
nt|lc: They play 14-16 -- and that East hand is just too good to treat as 16.|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|nt|Walddk2: 1@C it was actually|pg||
pc|s7|nt|Walddk2: Well played, the queen was essential for down 1|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|kit: East can win, play a heart, ruff the fourth round of spades with 8 of diamonds, and declarer is a trick short|pg||
pc|h3|nt|kareno: Spade spots working for declarer.|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ritong: bon, tant pis:-)|pg||
pc|h7|nt|phicro: Je ne suis pas sûr qu'on s'enrichisse pour autant : si Nord joue 1SA, elle va sans doute chuter|pg||
nt|ritong: est joue un SA, en fait|pg||
nt|ritong: me dit " ritong 1":)|pg||
nt|phicro: Elle va les faire, je pense|pg||
nt|phicro: "le" faire plutôt|pg||
nt|ritong: small break, operator?|pg||
nt|ritong: ah ben non, tiens|pg||
nt|ritong: ruisseaux petits, rivieres grandes, et coetera|pg||
nt|vugraphs4: Y . E have gone to the restroom|pg||
nt|phicro: J'ai le droit de dire "tant mieux", en tant que commentateur ?|pg||
nt|ritong: okay ty|pg||
nt|ritong: oui|pg||
nt|ritong: c est meme recommandé|pg||
nt|vugraphs4: you may take a cup of coffee|pg||
nt|phicro: Alors tant mieux|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Prediction by our commentators is down 4, 1100|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|Walddk2: You would not expect anything less by Versace of course|pg||
nt|kareno: Of course :)|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|nt|kit: South might have done better continuing the forcing game, playing a diamond rather than a heart|pg||
pc|h6|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|s9|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c9|nt|lc: Oh yes -- they play some 1@D/1@C thing where one shows a balanced hand and the other doesn't -- so 1@C with balanced, I suppose|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|dJ|mc|7|pg||
qx|c18|st||md|4ST5HK864DKT963CT6,SK986HJ75DAQCQ432,SQJ73HA2D74CAJ975,SA42HQT93DJ852CK8|sv|n|nt|lesrays: this was a gift to China from N|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: you can't possible make 3@H as EW|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|lesrays: -800 in other room|pg||
nt|xenya: *possibly|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|lesrays: no, it is - I have two computers:)|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|xenya: oh sorry --- i mixed it up -- it was the Chinese team that played 3@H...|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
nt|lesrays: sadly for China, S chose to respond to the 1@h opener and it was downhill all the way after that - what a shame for them|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cK|nt|xenya: indeed|pg||
nt|lesrays: look on the Bridge Movie and you will see the bidding|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c3|pg||
nt|roghog: knock out the @h, eventually finesse @d and this makes OK|pg||
pc|hT|nt|lesrays: W will be worrying about the @c suit surely - she does not know it is OK for her|pg||
nt|xenya: it seems she has little choice but to persevere with hearts|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dQ|nt|lesrays: wondering where to win this trick - must be in hand - well....|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sA|nt|roghog: cut off from dummy's @H?|pg||
nt|xenya: yup|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|lesrays: strange...|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c4|nt|roghog: may throw N in to lead @c later|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s4|nt|lesrays: she's made hard work of this|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|d5|nt|xenya: indeed|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|h3|pc|d6|pg||
nt|xenya: but @S9 is high now, so everything's well|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1SKT83HA97DAKJ75CK,SQ9762HK832D63C83,SJ54HJ654DQ82CJT2,SAHQTDT94CAQ97654|sv|e|nt|ritong: particulierement quand l epouse du commentateur est sous les projecteurs:-)|pg||
nt|vugraphs4: now welcome back|pg||
nt|kareno: Well, he switched horses in midstream|pg||
nt|kareno: He can even give sluff-ruff in clubs|pg||
nt|3for3: Aggressive 3nt in CR|pg||
nt|robinswr: new leader|pg||
nt|fann4: In the CR, it has gone (2@D) X (3@D) 4@D  and West has been thinking for about 5 mts.|pg||
nt|kit: And here comes a slam already|pg||
nt|mittmouse: he ocalled ih vul over a strong club he really got what he deserved|pg||
nt|jwit: Zia's probably bemoaning his opening lead, and he's going to gain 11 imps!|pg||
nt|lc: Prediciton is South won't do it again.|pg||
nt|lc: Not a strong @C -- but still ...|pg||
mb|1D|nt|kit: West will probably just bid 3NT, and it will be up to east to get them anyplace|pg||
nt|fann4: West bid 4NT there, whatever that means.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: une main difficile|pg||
mb|1H|nt|kit: I guess West thought he was too strong to bid 3NT|pg||
nt|swanson: 6!NT looks like the best slamt after 3@D, with 6@C second and 6@S in danger if spades were 4-1.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Down 4 it is in a second and 12 IMPs to USA1|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Scored now|pg||
nt|mittmouse: y i think they play strong club|pg||
nt|lc: Important to have agreement here as to what 3@C means.  Is it strong?  Intermediate?  Weak?|pg||
nt|swanson: Just how you want the bidding to go looking at the East hand - not!|pg||
nt|jwit: Indeed John!|pg||
nt|lc: Remember to ask your partner how you play 3@C here (over a 12-14 notrump).|pg||
nt|lc: My partners always preempt in my void suits.|pg||
nt|jwit: At least he has compensating values|pg||
nt|swanson: Sanity dictates that the 3@C overcall of 1NT (weak or strong) expects to take 7 tricks in his own hand.|pg||
nt|jwit: Certainly vulnerable anyway|pg||
nt|lc: Cope would like to make a takeout double of 3@C -- but I don't think they allow it.|pg||
nt|swanson: (At this vulnerability)|pg||
nt|lc: If Cope passes, the lead could swing a few tricks here|pg||
nt|swanson: Cope may be thinking 'if partner holds solid clubs and almost any other honor we can make 3NT)|pg||
nt|lc: A diamond lead looks best against 3@C|pg||
nt|swanson: He has niether.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Garner - Weinstein in the closed room play a natural system, not strong club|pg||
nt|swanson: Just that 1@C can be on a doubleton.|pg||
nt|mittmouse: so why didnt he open int|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1@C can be a balanced hand outside the NT range|pg||
mb|3C|nt|3for3: Bocchi drove to game, as he had no way to invite...the way the auction went|pg||
nt|fann4: EW are in 7@C in the CR|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Because he thought it was too good|pg||
nt|jwit: If he had solid clubs and an outside honor, he might have started with a double, depending on what double means|pg||
mb|d!|nt|kit: this could get exciting|pg||
nt|kit: N-S are in trouble -- if E-W can nail them|pg||
nt|brolucius: The play in this contract could take a while. Something going on in all four suits.|pg||
nt|dinos1: yes - seems pass asks XX, but S passed having 4333|pg||
nt|robinswr: why not bid blackwood with the east hand|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Oh dear|pg||
nt|kit: 7@C might be ok if played from East side|pg||
nt|fann4: By W|pg||
nt|kit: 4NT might not be Blackwood for them on this sequence|pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: Les Américain(es) affectionnent particulièrement le 2@d faible... |pg||
nt|ritong: la courageuse intervention de sylvie evitera une possible entame malheureuse contre un chelem a @h eventuel|pg||
nt|phicro: ... Qui ne procure que des ennuis à ses utilisateurs|pg||
nt|ritong: n en parlons plus|pg||
nt|kareno: Double?|pg||
nt|3for3: this could be trouble|pg||
nt|kit: North has a pretty hefty hand opposite an opening bid|pg||
nt|fann4: Tougher now, with both E and W bidding.|pg||
nt|kit: North might just double 2@D now!|pg||
nt|3for3: AKA is nice, but no spade spots, no fit for partner...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: How about taking the money?|pg||
nt|avivs: especially since they are Vul...|pg||
nt|kareno: That seems like the most logical action.|pg||
nt|kit: and it could be a lot of money Roland|pg||
nt|Walddk2: double must be for penalties, only one unbid suit|pg||
nt|kit: however, it is more difficult on defense. |pg||
nt|brolucius: West has avoided top club lead (more likely against 3NT perhaps)|pg||
nt|kit: Although the lead is actually quite okay -- doesn't blow anything at all|pg||
nt|robinswr: what else could it mean?|pg||
nt|jwit: So, good judgement by Cope in passing|pg||
nt|lc: So, Rosenberg has found the best lead.  The defense now has lots of tricks coming.|pg||
nt|kit: this 3@C call is likely to get N-S overboard|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Still a support double, even at the 3-level?|pg||
nt|kit: I think so|pg||
nt|joest: it looks like it|pg||
mb|3D|nt|kareno: Well, cooperative at least?|pg||
nt|kit: South would likely sit even if not for penalties|pg||
nt|avivs: wow|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Actually, they have all been bid|pg||
nt|3for3: or cooperative/cards/do what feels good|pg||
nt|kit: I have no idea|pg||
nt|kit: But I don't know what they are doing here either|pg||
nt|robinswr: everybody's bidding diamonds|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 6@S is obviously inferior but it will also make|pg||
nt|kit: West will correct 6@S to 6NT (or maybe more?)|pg||
nt|fann4: Cope, for SA in the CR, must be wondering what is going on. Yesterday his opp bid a grand when he had cashing @DAK, and now he has the @HA.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Diamonds are forever  - Marilyn Monroe|pg||
nt|swanson: It wouldn't be unreasonable to play 4NT as natural after 3@D - dbl - 4@D at this vulnerability.|pg||
nt|swanson: Doubling 1NT with solid clubs and nothing else requires that both the North and East seats be empty.|pg||
nt|brolucius: South's double at the other table was a Support Double, showing three-card heart support. Since North knew that hearts was only a 4-3 fit, he suggested diamonds as trumps at his ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: next turn. (You can see the auction from the other table by putting your cursor over the result, top left).|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: That's how I play it, Danny|pg||
nt|robinswr: true|pg||
nt|kit: of course 7@S might make -- South might not find the heart lead|pg||
nt|mittmouse: it looks like 3 down onperfect defense|pg||
nt|kit: Now South has to find a pass -- not easy|pg||
nt|joest: this should be the end of the line|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: I couldn't imagine selling out on the North hand even opposite a light opener|pg||
nt|avivs: that's just insulting partner's opening|pg||
nt|swanson: Soloway and I bid a grand in the Bermuda Bowl off the ace of trumps - it is not a good feeling.|pg||
nt|fann4: EW are now in 7@H in the CR|pg||
nt|robinswr: maybe you shouldn't double 3diamonds|pg||
nt|lc: In fact, I think they can beat it 3?  @D.  @H over  @D  @D  @H  and another @D promoting an extra @C trick.|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: Declarer will attack clubs|pg||
nt|dinos1: @cK wd be worse|pg||
nt|brolucius: A spade was best, it seems.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: @CK worth zip|pg||
nt|bjacobs: and South knew it - well done|pg||
pc|c8|nt|kareno: I'm surprised north passed - he has a lot of values just to give up.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Everyone heading off to the Balkans?|pg||
pc|c2|nt|kit: He hasn't made 3@D yet by a long shot -- danger of losing 1 club, 2 hearts, 2 spades|pg||
pc|cA|nt|3for3: if they get all their tricks, they beat it 4, for a routine push|pg||
nt|kit: And now West will have a very big problem|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes, but @C8 was likely a Smith signal; don't continue spades|pg||
nt|brolucius: By winning with the queen instead of the jack, at trick 1, declarer has hidden the position of the jack.|pg||
nt|kit: if his partner had played the 8 of clubs, it would be safe for him to continue a club|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Oh itwas changed to @C5|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: sorry its the 5 of @c|pg||
nt|brolucius: You should nearly always play the higher of touching honours, as declarer.|pg||
nt|kit: oops|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Same contract in the CR, same lead|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|joest: indeed he hasn't.  I was wondering how it made in the open room|pg||
pc|d9|nt|3for3: big oppurtunity squandered though|pg||
nt|kareno: At least they'll be getting 100 point undertricks.|pg||
nt|kit: and it looks like they may well get all their tricks|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes.|pg||
nt|kit: and in other room they are in 7@H undoubled -- and might get out for down 1 for 3 IMP win|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1@C (3@D)  a.p.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I guess East can be endplayed to give North a club trick (on which South pitches his losing heart)|pg||
nt|kit: I think there might be an end-play|pg||
nt|kit: end-play on West actually|pg||
nt|joest: ruff out the queen of clubs play three rounds of diamonds then ace and a heart|pg||
nt|joest: garneris stuck|pg||
pc|d5|nt|Walddk2: I am not sure this is the right strategy against Italy. You can't play "safe" over 48 boards|pg||
nt|kit: great shift!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: So they play reverse Smith|pg||
pc|d6|nt|dinos1: I prefer to show SP by @c's|pg||
nt|Walddk2: correction|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1@D  (3@C)  of course|pg||
nt|jwit: 1D 3C|pg||
nt|lc: So, now defense would have to cash 2@H ending in South for the promition with the last @D.|pg||
nt|lc: Very possible Rosenberg will find this, I think.|pg||
nt|jwit: Yes, looking at that dummy, he should|pg||
nt|mittmouse: zia wouldnt defend this way without h ace|pg||
nt|swanson: If Zia didn't hold the @HA he could have returned the @DQ instead of the nine.|pg||
nt|lc: If Zia didn't have @HA, he would have returned the @DQ (highest card) to say "@S"|pg||
nt|jwit: Yes, and for Holman's 3C bid, Zia can't possibly have much in clubs|pg||
nt|lc: The trump suit is not part of S.P. signals.  |pg||
nt|lc: So, HIGH should say @S,  Low should say @H.|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Perfect defence so far, 500 a possibility now|pg||
nt|kit: so far perfect defense -- they may hold declarer to 4 tricks|pg||
nt|Walddk2: and 8 IMPs if they get all their tricks|pg||
nt|brolucius: The Smith echo (or Smith peter) was invented by I.G.Smith, a former schoolmaster in Winchester.|pg||
nt|brolucius: By playing high (or low) on declarer's first suit, you indicate whether you liked partner's lead on the previous trick or not.|pg||
nt|robinswr: lightner doulbe says don't lead a diamond, so rosenberg will lead a heart|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|nt|phicro: L'entame de la Dame de @c avait pour objet de garder la main si l'intervention était commandée par AS-ROi|pg||
nt|kit: South Africa missed a big opportunity here|pg||
nt|jwit: WD|pg||
nt|joest: I mean cope|pg||
pc|s3|nt|kit: declarer doing best he can to block suit -- but East can shift to a spade later to kill the dummy|pg||
nt|kit: or even shift to a spade now -- probably best|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|brolucius: At the other table West was endplayed with the @HK. |pg||
pc|d4|nt|kareno: No you can't stall with only 50 IMP lead for 48 boards.|pg||
pc|dA|nt|3for3: you can be sure italy will score 50, so you still need to score some yourself|pg||
pc|d3|nt|dinos1: now @h and @s back|pg||
nt|kit: Now west will have to underlead his ace of hearts again -- not too difficult now|pg||
nt|brolucius: No, the hard work has been done by the defenders.|pg||
nt|kit: there goes a key entry|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|lc: Beautifully done  to earn the extra undertrick.|pg||
nt|lc: Zia & Rosenberg live for this kind of thing.|pg||
nt|mittmouse: if he ruffs with the 9 its 4 down|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Please understand that the commentators may not have time to respond to private chat messages. No offence intended. Useful information much appreciated though|pg||
pc|dK|nt|kareno: I guess best is ace of spades and a diamond from here.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Now perhaps it is West who gets endplayed?|pg||
nt|kit: but ace and a heart is still effective strangely enough|pg||
nt|kit: the get endplayed in turn|pg||
pc|s2|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg||
nt|kit: East hast to establish the club, and then West has to let declarer get to it|pg||
nt|joest: if cope plays club queen you just pitch your last heart|pg||
nt|kit: no, that doesn't work -- then you lose a spade|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sQ|nt|bjacobs: Yes, he has to ruff and play a heart, endplaying West|pg||
pc|s5|nt|kit: oops|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|s7|nt|kit: and that seals declarer's fate -- down 3 doubled|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c5|pc|sT|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Now we are back to the endplay on East!!!!|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|nt|kit: no, this still works amazingly enough|pg||
pc|d7|nt|brolucius: Well, this is great bridge. A very strong defence. (As was the Italians' on the first board, at the other table).|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|brolucius: At the other table East cashed the @SA at trick 2, before exiting with a trump. Declarer played ace and another heart, subsequently endplaying West with the second round of hearts.|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|h4|pc|c6|pg||
nt|kit: now he needs to play ace and a heart|pg||
nt|bjacobs: My head is swivelling like watching a rally of Nadal versus Federer|pg||
nt|kit: wrong if West has KQ of hearts, but that doesn't figure -- East would have returned a heart|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|nt|kit: he got it right|pg||
mc|9|nt|kit: West doesnt know for sure the spade position -- his play is 100% safe|pg||
pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1SKT83HA97DAKJ75CK,SQ9762HK832D63C83,SJ54HJ654DQ82CJT2,SAHQTDT94CAQ97654|sv|e|nt|lesrays: Hmmmm, not impressed!|pg||
nt|roghog: well, it must be a tiring event |pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|xenya: incidentally, that was worth 5imps to the Chinese|pg||
mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|d!|mb|p|nt|lesrays: I know it is riring, but one would think the adrenalin would be pumping, so much at stake, no room for errors either in defence or play|pg||
mb|2D|mb|3C|nt|lesrays: even tiring!|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c8|nt|lesrays: in the BB USA v SA the 1st board was flat!! E?W missed game in one room and N?S played 3@c undoubled in other!|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg||
nt|roghog: ...  so stay here for the excitement !!|pg||
nt|lesrays: must learn where the /  is.....|pg||
nt|xenya: everybody's happy?|pg||
nt|lesrays: absolutely|pg||
nt|lesrays: I suspect the guys who forgot to bid the game or double 3@c are not...|pg||
pc|sA|nt|roghog: another tough one to play. -1 looks likely|pg||
nt|lesrays: need to force declarer with @cs|pg||
nt|lesrays: Jill Meyers must be wondering where to start with this one - nasty|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|nt|roghog: duck round to dummy and play @s|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|s6|pg||
nt|xenya: difficult hand to bid i think -- S bid 2@S to show some extras, but N elected to pass over it instead of recorrecting to @Ds|pg||
pc|hA|nt|xenya: 2@S doesn't look to be the right contract as the hand with long trumps gets shortened|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|xenya: this is dangerous when playing in a 4-3 fit|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg||
nt|lesrays: 2@d +1 in other room - sensible|pg||
nt|lesrays: -1 now|pg||
nt|xenya: 3@D is also close, if not cold|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|c4|pg||
nt|lesrays: 4 to China|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2SA842H8DQ832CK874,SH9432DJ97654CQ96,SKJ6HAKT76DAKCAT3,SQT9753HQJ5DTCJ52|sv|b|nt|phicro: Voilà de l'action !|pg||
nt|ritong: woof|pg||
nt|ritong: béné va aimer 1@d|pg||
nt|kareno: They really blew it here.. but how much does 2@s go for?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Norway letting Helness - Helgemo having a rest in this set, 100 IMPs ahead. They crushed their opponents in all 3 sets yesterday|pg||
nt|kareno: I saw they had a huge lead|pg||
nt|kit: they weren't in 2@S, and no reason to think they would run|pg||
nt|kit: a disastrous result for the weak notrump|pg||
nt|kit: That Rosenberg is a good opening leader|pg||
nt|lc: So, 3 well-earned IMPs to USA 1.|pg||
nt|brolucius: So, interesting play at both tables and a shared board.|pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: On fait 6@c et 6@d en Est-Ouest|pg||
nt|Walddk1: http://tinyurl.com/368frj  for Venice Cup system cards|pg||
nt|phicro: La défense à 6@h est assez coûteuse, à cause du mauvais partage des @s|pg||
nt|kareno: Well, double was the most logical action for north and south surely would pass.|pg||
nt|kit: This could be a swing hand|pg||
nt|lc: N-S don't play 12-14 in this situation  (1,2,3  Red)|pg||
nt|joest: north-south climbed a little high in the closed room|pg||
nt|kit: disaster for SA in closed room -- can N-S here avoid the trap?|pg||
mb|2C!|nt|motbocaj: well it was bid on a 4333 11|pg||
nt|fann4: SA may still gain 3imps on the board.|pg||
nt|kit: it won't be easy -- South has a big hand opposite a 2@C opener|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Bridge is an intriguing mixture of luck and skill. That was an unlucky board for the Fantoni-Nunes 1NT range, but the defence has to be accurate to extract the maximum.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Norway 96 IMPs ahead against Netherlands now. Bold prediction: Norway are through to the final|pg||
mb|2S!|nt|bjacobs: And in 6NT by North, East has to find a lead|pg||
nt|joest: Weinstein shows three controls|pg||
nt|brolucius: If North can bid his hearts, somehow, South will not like his singleton in the suit.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: curieux|pg||
nt|ritong: nord semble avoir un passe solide et est 4@d a dire|pg||
nt|phicro: Bénédicte va avoir une enchère très difficile, il va falloir qu'elle joue que l'ouvreur a un As utile pour elle et qu'elle plonge à 6@c, à mon avis|pg||
nt|kit: with the spades 4-4 and clubs coming in, it looks like declarer has to guess which red-suit finesse to take.|pg||
nt|robinswr: making a takeout double without at least three cards in each unbid major is a punishable offense|pg||
mb|3H|nt|kit: East can't be happy passing over 1NT -- apparently didn't have methods to handle this shape|pg||
nt|swanson: Obviously it is no so easy to judge the auction after preempts when slam / grand slam is a close thing.|pg||
nt|fann4: No, 2 down there undoubled, for an easy push.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 19 was just a dull push|pg||
nt|jwit: Nobody should be able to make more than one of anything on this hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: 2@C quite a conservative call on the West hand I think|pg||
nt|3for3: would you drive to game, kit?|pg||
nt|fann4: He hasn't enough for 3@C|pg||
nt|3for3: sometimes, you can have a maximum...|pg||
nt|kit: in 3NT|pg||
nt|lc: Nor bid more than 1 of anything.|pg||
nt|mittmouse: they play chicken weak nt only non-vul|pg||
mb|3N|nt|phicro: ça va, le passe sur 3@h lui a offert l'espace du cue-bid|pg||
nt|kit: I would certainly jump shift -- but my intelligent partner would pass the "forcing" bid|pg||
nt|swanson: Nice to be getting the @SA on lead here.|pg||
nt|jwit: Yes|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: 4@h signifie " on va jouer a @c"|pg||
nt|phicro: Ou à @d, Henri|pg||
nt|ritong: 4@s est une mauvaise nouvelle|pg||
nt|kit: but since declarer doesn't know spades are 4-4, the heart finesse is the natural one to take|pg||
nt|kit: I think vs. preempts, when you are slamming you just worry about proper strain and forget about bidding a grand unless you are sure|pg||
nt|lc: Do, declarer will win and work on @H no doubt.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: That looks to have happened|pg||
mb|4N|nt|phicro: oui|pg||
mb|p|nt|motbocaj: as a spec says one pair in each room think they have made a great start, so important to rely on teammates in this situation|pg||
nt|brolucius: As the textbooks say you need to things for a slam: power and controls. Here N-S have the controls but not the power to make enough tricks.|pg||
nt|icesleepy: 6 clubs actually make, allthough I find it hard to imagine a bidding sequence to there|pg||
nt|kit: Possible squeeze position after setting up hearts, but that isn't likely line of play|pg||
nt|joest: Weinstein will pass or bid 5NT|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The German ladies got a spade lead against 6NT and made it. France leading by a single IMP now|pg||
nt|brolucius: He has a queen to spare.|pg||
nt|kit: I can't imagine Weinstein will pass -- If anybody had a pass, it was Garner|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes, the spade lead and a miracle in hearts ... won't happen here|pg||
nt|joest: i agree KIt|pg||
mb|5N|an|choose your slam|nt|phicro: voilà|pg||
nt|ritong: béné suit ta ligne|pg||
nt|ritong: c est beau|pg||
nt|phicro: j'espère que Sylvie ne va pas dire 7 parce qu'elle a deux As|pg||
nt|ritong: béné pouvait lui poser la question|pg||
nt|phicro: Elle réfléchit plutôt à annoncer 6@d, ça va aussi|pg||
nt|ritong: si elle ne l a pas fait..|pg||
nt|vugraphs4: now W has a long time thinking|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|phicro: We can understand|pg||
nt|ritong: position is not all that clear|pg||
nt|ritong: angoisse...|pg||
nt|vugraphs4: god help her not to change to 6S, for the trump is not clearly desided|pg||
nt|3for3: I agree with that pilosphy...jump shifts are forcing if you had a real response....not everyone agrees though|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: everybody thinks I'm kidding -- but I'm not.  I would pass 3@C jump whift with the East hand if I had chosen to respond|pg||
nt|kareno: I don't actually.|pg||
nt|dinos1: may pass now|pg||
nt|kit: the pick a losing slam bid|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is generally agreed that you should seek a safe lead against 6NT. However, that is not so easy from the present East hand. The spades are at least long, which often offers a ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: degree of safety. Not here!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: "choose your slam" - he really means "choose your poison"|pg||
nt|kit: but West is on lead!|pg||
nt|joest: west will be on lead vs nt|pg||
nt|Walddk2: If West leads a spade, it's time to call the director|pg||
nt|bjacobs: You would think that if declarer sets up the hearts, there must be a squeeze there somewhere, but it's hard to work out|pg||
nt|barnets: now the bid is alerted as pick a slam|pg||
nt|joest: he needs to pick pass|pg||
nt|kit: it is possible that there is squeeze position if declarer sets up the hearts -- I haven't worked it out|pg||
nt|barnets: if they are on the same page|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Looks like there is a double squeeze|pg||
nt|kit: Well, he will find out the bad news in spades quickly, so he won't have any choice|pg||
nt|brolucius: With the third club in the North hand as a threat. |pg||
mb|p|nt|3for3: I would never JS with real spade support, for instance|pg||
nt|jwit: Yes, played from that side, with that lead, may actually make 2|pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: No, by sure it can't be @s, because Bene would have bid @s over 3@h|pg||
nt|phicro: Parfait|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Since West sits over the single diamond threat-card, you must use the North club length in the pivot suit (clubs). |pg||
nt|vugraphs1: no shoose :)|pg||
nt|kit: wow -- I don't believe that|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Everyone's favourite contract - 5NT|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 5NT = choose a slam    pass = No way!|pg||
nt|joest: i think Garner did not like which way the wind was blowing.  If Weinstein was willing to sign off in 3NT, and there was no 4-4 fit...|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes, Garner obviously was having second thoughts about his 4NT bid|pg||
nt|joest: as did we all|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: maybe i dont understand explication .....|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ritong: tout va bien|pg||
nt|kit: Of course in my methods I never jump shift with 4-card support for partner|pg||
nt|fann4: But if your 'intelligent partner' had a misfitting 7 count he would bid again. and then what?|pg||
nt|swanson: The defense gets only 3 spades and 2 hearts.  From the other side 1NT might be set.|pg||
nt|kit: however, 5NT may be more difficult to make than 6NT oddly enough|pg||
nt|joest: that's a very interesting point|pg||
nt|kit: because declarer won't be banking on the heart suit|pg||
nt|kit: he will be working on the black suits|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: Maybe North know the 4441 in South|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: and discourage for the slam :)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: It's ugly - he's stuck in dummy at trick 1|pg||
nt|kit: at 6NT, after getting bad new in spades declarer would have no choice but to pray for heart rain|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I predict it will take some time to see trick 2|pg||
nt|brolucius: There is little written in text-books to guide you on leading against 5NT (!). Again West has chosen to lead from a six-card suit. Of course hearts had been bid and Q-9-x was ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: unthinkable, so he had little choice.|pg||
nt|kit: but in 5NT he has a million other chances|pg||
nt|barnets: Rosenberg led the HJ v 6N and dec did not pursue that suit|pg||
nt|kit: just old-fashioned 4th from your longest and strongest vs. NT|pg||
nt|barnets: giving himself little or no chance|pg||
pc|dK|nt|motbocaj: I presume 1@D=hearts, 2@D?|pg||
nt|kit: spade lead likely on the auction -- will he get it right?|pg||
nt|dinos1: @s or @d?|pg||
nt|dinos1: @d wasnt shown?|pg||
nt|motbocaj: specs give 5 different answers! 1@D=hearts and 2@D natural despite the alert seems most authoritative|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1@D is hearts  0-11 hcp|pg||
pc|dT|nt|ritong: le singleton @d dans la bonne main|pg||
nt|Walddk2: They should look it up instead og guessing|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Commentators are also entitled to do just that|pg||
nt|kit: he found the spade lead -- but it took him so long that declarer can deduce that East doesn't have a 5-card spade suit|pg||
nt|brolucius: A spade seemed better than a diamond, from that combination, even if the diamonds had been bid.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://tinyurl.com/2jzdld  for Bermuda Bowl system cards|pg||
nt|brolucius: Excellent general point by Kit. A slow opening lead can speak volumes.|pg||
nt|dinos1: still has to guess how to ener dummy to fin @c|pg||
nt|barnets: it would as a spec poonts out been much better to duck the opening lead|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Well folks - any bets?  What's the card at trick 2?|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|kit: so from declarer's point of view he has 9 toppers.  Best chance for more will appear to be in the black suits|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Low heart, Bill|pg||
nt|kit: and spades most promising, so I expect a spade to ace at trick 2|pg||
nt|joest: low heart|pg||
nt|fann4: Hi all|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Small heart wins my poll of specs, but it's still going|pg||
nt|barnets: hi|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome back to Jeff Sapire|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I've got 635 small hearts|pg||
nt|kit: the specs forget that declarer can't see all 4 hands the way they can|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 15 low clubs|pg||
nt|bjacobs: and one comedian plays another top diamond, leading to a trick 3 poll|pg||
nt|barnets: this is very true kit|pg||
nt|brolucius: If he had to give up two hearts, he would still have a good chance of eleven tricks.|pg||
pc|s6|nt|brolucius: To avoid giving away information you should always say: "Oh, sorry. Is it my lead?"|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sA|nt|fann4: I think what partnerships need to clarify is: doubling a pre-empt, partner cues, then 4NT.|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|kit: as long as East is known not to have five spades, then playing east for the ace of diamonds will work|pg||
nt|jwit: Probably should have won the first club|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Ha ha!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: now the small spade play is making a late run!|pg||
nt|brolucius: Did you get a reply from Weinstein on your poll?|pg||
nt|kit: now he has a new problem|pg||
nt|kit: he can go after clubs, hoping for 3-3, and a future endplay|pg||
nt|kit: or he can go after hearts, set up a heart trick, and hope for a squeeze|pg||
nt|kit: I think he will go after hearts|pg||
nt|barnets: well running the H 8 gains v H9x in west|pg||
nt|kit: that will get him up to 10 tricks (from his point of view), and many squeeze possibilities for 11|pg||
pc|h8|nt|swanson: North can safely discard a heart and spade on the diamonds - then East must cash his @SA or lose it.|pg||
pc|h2|nt|kit: And, in fact it is the right play, since if successful there are 2 dummy entries, necessary if West has Qxxx of clubs|pg||
nt|bjacobs: not the 10!|pg||
nt|kit: he might well play the 10|pg||
nt|joest: playin the ten will still win against H9x in west|pg||
pc|hT|nt|kit: then I would get to game, and maybe make it|pg||
nt|bjacobs: oh agony|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|dinos1: y, good reasoning|pg||
nt|kit: now back to the squeeze|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|bjacobs: Of course East feels a bit uncomfortable here, but the heart return does look safe|pg||
pc|s2|nt|kit: so we shall see if Fantoni sees it my way|pg||
nt|Walddk2: What if Cope switched to a heart? Declarer must duck, and then the defence must come to 5 tricks I think|pg||
nt|kit: he can now be 100% certain that East doesn't have 5 spades, since K and Q are out there and East surely doesn't have KQJxx.|pg||
nt|dinos1: now @s is proven to be 4-4|pg||
nt|antoniz: if he playes d, would win|pg||
nt|dinos1: yes, sry - cd be J10x|pg||
nt|dinos1: the more u shd play E for @dA|pg||
nt|kit: doesn't matter if J10x -- key is that East doesn't have 5 spades, so if he plays East for ace of diamonds he is a winner|pg||
nt|swanson: The club shift was worth an extra defensive trick.|pg||
pc|h3|nt|kit: best return|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|barnets: i think it is even money|pg||
nt|barnets: on the heart guess|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|nt|kit: Great play!|pg||
nt|kit: problem here is he hasn't cashed queen of diamonds -- does this ruin the squeeze timing?|pg||
pc|s4|nt|phicro: 6@hx, c'est 1100 seulement si on se débrouille bien à @s|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|kit: I think it does|pg||
pc|h6|nt|antoniz: closer now|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Now is the time for South to say: "Hey partner, 3NT was a good contract"|pg||
nt|joest: i can't see how he gets home from here|pg||
pc|s3|nt|dinos1: W cd have 5|pg||
pc|c4|pc|h9|pg||
nt|ritong: bienvenue a notre ami JL Aroix|pg||
nt|kit: but now he must cash ace of diamonds before playing heart -- force West to play a diamond|pg||
pc|d5|nt|kit: and for exactly the right reason -- so he can take the percentage play in clubs|pg||
nt|mittmouse: south africa is off the schneider|pg||
nt|jwit: Could still have made 2 if he won the first club|pg||
pc|dA|pc|s5|nt|juan lukas: bonjour tout le monde , bonjour Henri et Philippe |pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|kit: note the difference if queen of diamonds is cashed -- that is what squeezes east in the double squeeze|pg||
nt|bjacobs: When was he meant to cash it?|pg||
nt|joest: not knowing who had the long heart|pg||
nt|kit: he could have unblocked ace of diamonds before playing 4th heart -- what does West do?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: He plays a diamond|pg||
nt|bjacobs: which I admit, does cash the diamond queen for declarer|pg||
nt|kit: spec say west can return queen of clubs, but let's see him find it|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Oh yes, @CQ - very obvious|pg||
nt|joest: that will do it though|pg||
nt|kit: I guess if he had kept spade in dummy he would be okay anyway|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I was a young man when this board started|pg||
nt|kit: no, wouldn't work -- dummy would get squeezed ahead of East.|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|d7|pg||
nt|phicro: Bonjour Jean-Luc|pg||
nt|phicro: Bien joué les Françaises en salle fermée, qui ont trouvé la défense|pg||
nt|bjacobs: The simple play here is a minor suit squeeze on West, hoping he has @CQJ|pg||
pc|h7|pc|sT|pc|c7|nt|fann4: EW in 2@D in the CR, heading for 1 down, with @s 3-3.|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d9|nt|bjacobs: He's played it - no luck|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|kit: and now East sits behind North|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg||
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qx|c20|st||md|2SA842H8DQ832CK874,SH9432DJ97654CQ96,SKJ6HAKT76DAKCAT3,SQT9753HQJ5DTCJ52|sv|b|nt|lesrays: clawing it back?|pg||
nt|roghog: could be - they finished very strongly against England in the last match|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|lesrays: yes, I watched - v exciting|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|nt|xenya: this should be a quiet hand|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|lesrays: Germany in 6NT in other match..makes if you play top hearts...|pg||
nt|xenya: 6N??|pg||
mb|6N|mb|p|nt|lesrays: yup! and it's going to make...just has|pg||
nt|xenya: no fits, no nothing...|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h4|nt|lesrays: got a @s lead, and ducked a @h, 12 tricks|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|xenya: is there such a thing as German luck?|pg||
nt|roghog: apparently yes|pg||
nt|lesrays: certainly on this board. But 12 tricks always possible as long as 4@h tricks established|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|lesrays: only 11 now, flat board|pg||
nt|lesrays: sorry, just noiced @h 10 played ! 10 tricks...:)|pg||
nt|lesrays: 1 IMP to China|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg||
nt|lesrays: specs are telling me I'm wrong - depends what suit declarer plays?|pg||
nt|roghog: 3@s tricks 3@c 3@d 2@h|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s3|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c8|pc|d6|pc|h6|pc|s5|pg||
nt|lesrays: 11 now, OK! Sorry, I am watching 2 matches here!|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|xenya: aha!|pg||
pc|d7|pc|h7|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|d9|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|h3|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3SAQ9HQJ7DK65CKJ65,SJ82H986DQ8432C32,S764HA432DAT7C987,SKT53HKT5DJ9CAQT4|sv|n|nt|fann4: Still cannot see a 3@C bid.|pg||
nt|avivs: would you know to pass partner's preferance to 2@d when he has his minor holding reversed?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: West in 3@H in the closed room|pg||
nt|antoniz: great job|pg||
nt|brolucius: We cannot complain about these early boards. They have been packed with interest.|pg||
nt|lc: Looks like another low-level partial.|pg||
nt|lc: How about P P P 1@C X to start.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 3 imps to USA|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|Walddk2: That's too much on this layout|pg||
nt|kit: And yet another possible slam -- or maybe even a grand, though I don't think so|pg||
nt|nickf: ok|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ritong: inattendu|pg||
nt|swanson: Spade slam for E-W here - I'll bet they don't bid a grand.|pg||
nt|robinswr: one might get to 7spade here|pg||
nt|lc: Or is X too rich for you guys Red on White with Rosenberg?|pg||
nt|lc: Of course, I would only consider it as a PH.|pg||
nt|brolucius: A fine hand, with interest at both tables. As was mentioned a long while ago (only 20 minutes, was it?) it was quite possible that one side would make 6NT and the other fail in ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: 5NT. |pg||
nt|bjacobs: More invitational decisions - this time at the game level|pg||
nt|fann4: Facing a likely 16-18 overcall, will N move?|pg||
nt|kit: he will certainly move -- question is how high|pg||
mb|2C|nt|fann4: W bid 3@H here in the CR|pg||
nt|kit: Pretty hard not to compete to 3@H one way or another on the West hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: Normal to bid that high with that hand I would say.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: It went 1@C   1@H ( = spades)    3@H   all pass|pg||
mb|2D|nt|3for3: versace going slower|pg||
nt|fann4: W may get away with 2@h here.|pg||
nt|lc: Probably too dangerous at these colors, I suppose (I'll answer my own question).|pg||
nt|swanson: Passed hand status brings it into the picture, but there are still a lot of losers and weak defense.  I think pass is prudent at IMPs|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: What was 3@h supposed to be?  Intermediate?|pg||
nt|kit: yes, But South won't quit|pg||
nt|kit: Now North might have a penalty double|pg||
nt|3for3: might north double here|pg||
nt|kit: This should be easy to bid and make 4@S|pg||
nt|jwit: I would double with that distribution as a passed hand|pg||
mb|2N|nt|kareno: If double is for penalties I'd do it.|pg||
nt|kit: That is the advantage of bidding it quickly -- more difficult to double|pg||
nt|kit: New country heard from|pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: 2@c est décrit comme "limite+" dans le système de Bjerkan Sanborn|pg||
nt|3for3: 3nt might make on a very lucky day...|pg||
nt|3for3: not today|pg||
nt|kareno: His partner didn't show a great hand with the 1@s bid.. |pg||
nt|kit: Holman wondering how this could possibly make when his partner passed over 1@H|pg||
nt|avivs: Lauria missed his chance to X|pg||
nt|3for3: should he run to 4@C|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: North alert 1@s=10pts and more|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Really?|pg||
nt|kareno: Ahh Alerted both sides of the screen?|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: no South dont alert this|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I know it's early in Shanghai but he can't have miscounted by that much|pg||
nt|bjacobs: He's min, but the @CKJ is promoted in value - tough choice|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: problem with running to 4@C is that partner might not know you are "running"|pg||
nt|lc: So, it sounds like it is close.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: mysterieuse formulation|pg||
nt|ritong: ça doit signifier " non forcing de manche"|pg||
nt|lc: Notice the 1NT rebid.  Modern style is to bypass 4-card majors by opener (because responder would show one if he had one).|pg||
nt|fann4: South will probably accept an invitation with those well placed black cards.|pg||
pc|d3|nt|kit: I wouldn't have passed 2NT vul -- just too much at stake I think|pg||
nt|bjacobs: From 5NT to 2NT - N/S stuck in yucky contracts|pg||
nt|barnets: on adiamond lead dec must win to make 3n|pg||
nt|brolucius: South has the sort of hand where rubber bridge players jokingly say '1NT' over partner's 2NT. No shape, no middle cards and a minimum count.|pg||
nt|kit: but these games just plain make |pg||
nt|barnets: if he ducks east switches to spades|pg||
nt|kit: maybe not against double-dummy defense, but you don't always get double-dummy defense|pg||
nt|fann4: CR EW got caught with the weak NT|pg||
pc|d7|nt|kit: West will probably shift to the queen of clubs just to get out of his hand|pg||
nt|kit: Assuming he can read the heart lead, that is|pg||
nt|kit: Gives Nunes choice -- of course Nunes prefers spades|pg||
pc|d9|nt|phicro: Surtout, il ne m'apparaît pas clairement qu'elles puissent retrouver 3SA....|pg||
nt|phicro: Quoique|pg||
nt|ritong: encore que|pg||
nt|phicro: couac|pg||
nt|ritong: on devrait l ecrire quoiqueux|pg||
nt|lc: This one is easy to analyze the play for.|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|ritong: pour eviter les dissonances canardoïdes:)|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|kit: if this is Blackwood, not clear what he is hoping to find out -- maybe looking for king of clubs?|pg||
nt|jwit: Looks like this will make on time, as long as declarer goes right in clubs|pg||
pc|h8|nt|phicro: Joli rétablissement|pg||
nt|phicro: Je pârie que dans l'autre salle Sud n'a même pas nommé son fit à @c|pg||
nt|ritong: gagné|pg||
nt|kit: A point was made that East might have opened a weak 2 -- I know I would have.  And it would have been successful.|pg||
nt|swanson: I count 3 diamonds, 1 club, 1 heart and 7 trump tricks.|pg||
nt|fann4: I don't think this was a hand to use KC|pg||
pc|h2|nt|juan lukas: oui mais elles ne le jouent pas de la bonne main : l'entame @d est un bon depart pour la defense |pg||
nt|ritong: tu veux dire la mauvaise a @c et bye bye clara?|pg||
nt|phicro: Exact, l'entame est bonne, et la déclarant va devoir manoeuvrer précisément|pg||
nt|mgchat: le carry over est il compté ?|pg||
nt|juan lukas: un peu Henri |pg||
nt|ritong: oui|pg||
nt|antoniz: they will find a ruff...  and thats all:)|pg||
nt|fann4: W may bid 7 now, with those running @D|pg||
nt|kit: I think his approach makes sense -- if partner has king of clubs he wants to be in a grand, a small otherwise|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|3for3: now cope thinks he has a chance...|pg||
nt|3for3: not for long though|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Norway +10 against NL in the other semi-final, +47 overall|pg||
nt|jwit: And he did|pg||
nt|lc: Who should he play for the hypothetical 4@C given the auction and early play?|pg||
nt|lc: Maybe he could have gone wrong (thinking North might have doubled with his actual short @C).|pg||
nt|jwit: With the K of hearts lead, looks like he did the right thing|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|avivs: who is North screenmate?|pg||
nt|robinswr: only if 5nt asks for specific kings|pg||
pc|d5|nt|brolucius: Nunes false-cards the jack, to make West's singleton lead look like low from an honour.|pg||
pc|d4|nt|kit: He can't be very optimistic about both minors splitting|pg||
nt|Walddk2: East is|pg||
nt|kit: but West crossed him up|pg||
nt|fann4: Yes it does, so maybe it was a good idea.|pg||
nt|barnets: yes SA did well to get 500 on this board|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|fann4: E|pg||
nt|swanson: I lose the bet.|pg||
nt|kit: This almost makes, but North's spade spots a bit to big so can't crossruff for 13|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s2|nt|ritong: jusque la, rien a signaler|pg||
nt|lc: Yes Jon -- @CA with North not too likely given probably @HKQJ.|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Screen from NW to SE|pg||
nt|kit: basically I think he will just try to set up clubs|pg||
nt|kit: would he make 3NT if in it?  I have no idea.  But I do know that as defender i always breathe a sigh of relief when my opponents stop at 2NT vul.|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|kareno: Cutting communication|pg||
nt|kit: This spade play is a nice play -- it could cut defensive communications on some layouts|pg||
nt|brolucius: In one session of the Italy-SA quarter final there were three boards where the 1NT range led to a swing. It was still necessary for the opponents to bid/play well to extract the ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: IMPs and that is exactly what South Africa did at the other table.|pg||
pc|h9|nt|ritong: c est a la levee suivante qu on va savoir|pg||
nt|juan lukas: il ne faudra pas se tromper a @c ... dans l'autre salle , Daniele Gaviard a joué @c pour le 9 la seconde fois et ca ne l'a pas empeché de gagner son contrat , ici je crois que la ...|pg||
nt|juan lukas: declarante n'aura pas cette chance |pg||
pc|h3|nt|fann4: If they were, Zia would have regretted not leading a trump.|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|swanson: Textbooks say to lead a trump against a grand.  But when partner may old Jxxx (or you do) it is not so appealing.|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h6|nt|phicro: Pourquoi tant de précipitation, Béné ?|pg||
nt|ritong: @d 8....snif|pg||
nt|mgchat: BONJOUR A TOUS|pg||
nt|juan lukas: @h now ? |pg||
nt|juan lukas: bonjour michele :)|pg||
pc|hA|nt|juan lukas: oups |pg||
nt|phicro: Sylvie a perdu un petit @d|pg||
nt|ritong: oui...|pg||
nt|swanson: hold|pg||
nt|jwit: If he had the A of clubs and KQJx (x) of hearts, might have overcalled 1H|pg||
nt|swanson: Looks might close to me - I think declarer should duck the first heart  and maybe the second, looking for a little distributional info.|pg||
nt|jwit: He wouldn't be too crazy about a spade shift tho John|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|phicro: ça va se voir, malheureusement|pg||
pc|h4|nt|brolucius: ... on the present board.|pg||
nt|kit: and now club to jack, diamond to ace, club and 3NT would have made if in it|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ritong: et bene a un peu bradé son 8|pg||
nt|kit: Versace sees the dummy, and decides that if declarer won't lead diamonds he can safely do so|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|nt|wygbe1: hi all|pg||
nt|kit: on a better day this would have made|pg||
nt|robinswr: clubs 3-3 or spades or kx of clubs|pg||
pc|cK|nt|lc: He could certainly have ducked 1@H safely.|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|phicro: Si elle joue un petit, le déclarant peut fournir le 5 du mort|pg||
nt|kit: in 2NT he of course plays safe going up king|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|nt|ritong: certes|pg||
pc|s6|nt|mgchat: le 8 devait avoir un parfum de preferentiel|pg||
nt|phicro: De toute façon, elle ne s'et pas trompé à @c|pg||
nt|ritong: next|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|jwit: Yes, one, but not two|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dA|nt|swanson: Declarer needed the trump 9 in the South hand, 3-2 trumps and 4-2 clubs (or 3-3 clubs with 4-1 trumps)|pg||
nt|fann4: 6@S doubled in the CR!|pg||
nt|fann4: Looks like 15imps to USA1|pg||
nt|swanson: When declarer starts to think here the defense can claim.|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|c8|nt|kit: pretty silly double of 6@S in closed room, but won't cost much it turns out|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
nt|swanson: There are unlikely to be any five card suits lying around but maybe only one duck.|pg||
pc|sT|nt|robinswr: not sure why he did that|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3SAQ9HQJ7DK65CKJ65,SJ82H986DQ8432C32,S764HA432DAT7C987,SKT53HKT5DJ9CAQT4|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|d|mb|2D!|mb|d|mb|p|nt|roghog: 14-16|pg||
nt|roghog: may be tough to stop 3NT NS as everything's right, but neither can bid|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|lesrays: In BB, Garner/Weinstein thinking about bidding 6NT on last board....|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c3|nt|roghog: instead, we will se Liu drift a few down|pg||
pc|c9|nt|lesrays: but have rested in 5NT - bet he makes 6..|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|h7|nt|lesrays: expensive to miss a vul game - wonder how the bidding will go next door.....|pg||
nt|roghog: South didnt fancy doubling the 14-16 NT at these colours |pg||
nt|roghog: ah, they only play penalty dbls vs weak NT, I'm told|pg||
nt|lesrays: I am told 3NT in other room NS which will make|pg||
nt|roghog: ...so dbl is some sort of two-suited bid|pg||
nt|lesrays: difficult - is 14-16 weak or strong? Better to treat as weak obviously!|pg||
nt|roghog: well, fasten your seatbelts - could be a nailbiting finish|pg||
nt|roghog: ...not to this hand, which will be 2 or 3 down|pg||
nt|lesrays: just what we need - every match seemed to be within striking distance this morning, but this could be a gem|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg||
pc|c8|nt|lesrays: now we are getting comparisons...|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|d4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg||
nt|xenya: and they are not favourable for USA|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|roghog: and we can see (by "mousing" the Open Room score) that S overcalled a 1@C opening with 1NT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|s5|pg||
mc|5|pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SKJ94HAK87D982C72,S72H954DQT653C543,SQT53HJT3D7CKQT86,SA86HQ62DAKJ4CAJ9|sv|e|nt|ritong: un coup deplaisant pour vivi, oublie ma fille|pg||
nt|ritong: et charge!|pg||
nt|phicro: oui, il n'y a pas mort d'homme, quand même|pg||
nt|juan lukas: oui ! pense que la declarante avait decidé de ne pas se tromper a @c !|pg||
nt|3for3: 8 imps to italy|pg||
nt|brolucius: Q-10-x-x or similar. Not so good to play the 10 or queen, because with touching honours, against a suit contract, West would lead an honour.|pg||
nt|dinos1: do they lead 3/5?|pg||
nt|fann4: With hindsight I think a trump lead is right. Dummy must have good @D to bid 7, and you have @CKJ109.|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer risks down 2 by not cashing the diamond, but he would have been down if trumps split and the @DQ was ruffed.|pg||
nt|lc: If he ducked 2@H and spades were 5-2 with the 5@S holding the @C, yes.|pg||
nt|lc: Another partial?|pg||
nt|kit: Now maybe East shouldn't have shifted to a spade, and if East had come back a heart maybe he wouldn't have been able to make 3NT|pg||
nt|kit: but right defense is difficult even for top experts|pg||
nt|barnets: only 7 in it|pg||
mb|1D|nt|fann4: In CR  NS had a mixup and finished up in their 4-3 @H fit.|pg||
mb|d|nt|fann4: SA need to keep their composure now, having gone down in 2 grand slams.|pg||
nt|fann4: A slightly offbeat 2@D. which may cause things to happen.|pg||
nt|swanson: A weak two bid holding a good four-card major holding is a dangerous maneuver.|pg||
nt|swanson: After 1@S - 1NT response, do you rebid 2@C or 1@S?|pg||
nt|mittmouse: since he is pretty sure s has the a of clubs he should go to a d and lead ac in case s has asingleton ace and he misguesses later|pg||
nt|swanson: 2@S|pg||
nt|kit: oh wow -- we may have a new leader after this hand|pg||
mb|2D|nt|brolucius: 4@H is touch-and-go. Declarer would have to dispose of a diamond on the spades. So, we will have to wait and see whether a 300 sacrifice is paying or not.|pg||
nt|robinswr: thats why one opens 2diamonds with that hand|pg||
nt|kit: or at worst a virtual tie|pg||
nt|kit: sorry -- mis-saw -- it was SA who had the accident|pg||
nt|barnets: wrong way kit|pg||
nt|fann4: But SA were -1 in the CR?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Responsive double best now.|pg||
mb|3S|nt|jwit: I'm a 2S bidder with spades so good|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: We lost 3 rooms at a time|pg||
nt|3for3: looks like 3@C/3@S|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The connectivity from Shanghai has been excellent ... until now|pg||
nt|robinswr: passing is worse|pg||
nt|kit: Rosenberg picked a very bad time to come in|pg||
nt|lc: If I didn't rebid 2@C David would kill me.  But I understand 2@S.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Stop panicking Kit - USA still have a healthy lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: Difficile de masquer les @s, mais ça tombe bien ici|pg||
nt|ritong: vachement conservateur de passr d entree le jeu de béné|pg||
nt|kit: this time the weak notrump may be more successful|pg||
nt|antoniz: hard to  guess from NS what's a 4h contract fate|pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: Pourquoi ? Elle n'a que 10 points...|pg||
nt|phicro: Elles vont jouer 3SA, il me semble|pg||
nt|ritong: j espere|pg||
nt|ritong: je parie gros que les americaines vont y aller|pg||
nt|swanson: Then when partner rebids 2NT, is 3@S forcing?|pg||
nt|lc: David (my regular partner) would rebid 2@C with  @SAKQxxx   @C 10xxx  (he's a bit of a fanatic about this).|pg||
nt|lc: Mainstream is to rebid the 6-major if you are dead minimum.|pg||
nt|jwit: I think it should be John|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Italy got agonisingly close to winning the semi-final after a huge deficit. South Africa supporters will hope that the same won't happen for them, getting VERY close without ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: winning|pg||
pc|s6|nt|dinos1: 3@c - trf?|pg||
nt|lc: For the exact reason Jon & John are pointing out.|pg||
nt|kit: This will make comfortably, for 5 or 6 IMPs|pg||
nt|fann4: Breathing space for USA! , probably 6imps to them here.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: What's happening in France - Germany Roland?|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|3for3: Italy stopped accurately in 3@S in CR...|pg||
pc|s7|nt|phicro: Et 3SA maintenant|pg||
nt|ritong: meme si ça chute, mieux vaut egaliser|pg||
nt|dinos1: or inv?|pg||
nt|kit: That was a swing -- 3NT might not be making, and 3@S was going down a lot|pg||
nt|robinswr: hard to beat 3nt|pg||
nt|kit: Rosenberg probably has to lead a high heart to defeat 3NT - not easy|pg||
nt|swanson: West is content to take his vulnerable game - but why should it be a lock with his cards.|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|kareno: South needs to bid one more and he does.|pg||
nt|kit: now that is interesting|pg||
nt|odysseus69: on h lead hard to make|pg||
nt|Walddk2: France ahead by a healthy 2 IMPs|pg||
pc|c2|nt|kit: seems like if partner can double 3@S on his own it should be juicy -- but maybe not clear that double was penalties|pg||
nt|jwit: I normally adhere to that Larry, but when my spades are so strong, I would rebid them right away|pg||
nt|mittmouse: 3nt was the best spot|pg||
nt|lc: A bit of a stretch, but these days, vulnerable games are bid with nothing.|pg||
pc|c5|nt|phicro: Y a plus qu'à les faire...|pg||
nt|3for3: here too...|pg||
nt|kit: Good decision by south to compete on his flat hand|pg||
nt|antoniz: gee|pg||
nt|kit: Poor West -- they got him|pg||
nt|robinswr: maybe the double of 3spade just showed a good hand|pg||
nt|swanson: This is a rather good hand, so if parnter does rebid 2NT you are comfortable bidding 3@S forcing.|pg||
nt|lc: Percentage play in @S suit here is ....|pg||
nt|swanson: the winner|pg||
nt|lc: Low to the @SQ  --- becauase if they are 3-3 nothing matters.  But if 4-2, you can pick up the actual holding.|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|kareno: Four trumps.|pg||
nt|3for3: he does have a 9 card fit, and no soft club cards...|pg||
nt|kit: having 9 trumps it is usually right to compete to 3-level, and this hand is no exception|pg||
nt|lc: If @SJxxx onside and 4-2 you can't pick them up anyway.  That is why low to @SQ is correct -- and gets rewarded here.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: What a rivalry has developed there between those fine teams|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|phicro: ça c'est un bon début pour nous, je crois|pg||
pc|dK|nt|mittmouse: he has to play a and q of spades out of his hand to make it|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 24-2 to Norway after 3 boards, 57 IMPs ahead now. Is that the beginning of the end in that match? Helness and Helgemo in partcular have been outstanding|pg||
nt|lc: Yes -- I am talking as if entires abound.  On the "full deal" there are other issues.|pg||
pc|d2|nt|3for3: make his q@S the q@C and it would be less attractive to bid on|pg||
nt|lc: Although now, the !9 solves all!|pg||
nt|lc: @D9|pg||
pc|d3|nt|Walddk2: Nothing much happening in the other three BB quarter-finals. USA1, Netherlands and Norway still up by miles|pg||
nt|kareno: That adds to his defense and takes away from his offense.. |pg||
nt|fann4: The trouble with doubles.|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|jwit: Absolutely, winning line would be to play the A and Q of spades out of his hand (without the diamond shift of course)|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|nt|kit: If West had methods to show majors over the weak notrump he could have used them -- I don't know what he had available|pg||
pc|d5|nt|mittmouse: he is forced to do that|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|phicro: Mais Sylvie risque de penser les honneurs à @s partagés, et va jouer @h pour le Roi|pg||
nt|kit: declarer knows that whether he ducks or not it will probably make|pg||
nt|brolucius: At the other table North might possibly have chosen to bid that way with four spades and four hearts, but it seemed that South had little to lose by giving preference to the ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: first-bid suit, spades.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And things just changed now. Germany ahead by 4.5 IMPs|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Oh - they won 6.5 imps on a board?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Very funny|pg||
nt|Walddk2: We can't show fractions on our scoreboard, sorry about that|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Norway up by 69 with 7 boards to go|pg||
nt|bjacobs: It's situations like these that make you think how the internet (and BBO!) has really changed the face of bridge|pg||
nt|Walddk2: USA1 14 IMPs ahead against China in the other Venice Cup semi-final|pg||
nt|brolucius: Commentators at the other table suggested that South had read North for 5-4 and had preferred to play in the 4-4 heart fit.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The question is whether the Americans can afford the 11 IMPs they were fined in the previous set|pg||
nt|bjacobs: what????|pg||
pc|hT|nt|brolucius: Tell us more.|pg||
pc|h6|nt|antoniz: 3nt is a good sacriface  against voul 4h:)|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ritong: c est a craindre|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|phicro: Et voilà|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Late arrival of one player, 16 minutes|pg||
nt|bjacobs: We are talking the Venice Cup here?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 5 minutes free of charge, then 1 IMP per minute after that|pg||
nt|kit: does the 14 IMP lead include the penalty Roland?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: That I don't know|pg||
nt|brolucius: You need a good girlfriend to make such a delay worthwhile.|pg||
nt|barnets: :)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Schiffer, minimum|pg||
nt|kit: this is the venice cup David|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Well, there is no law against having girlfriends in the Venice Cup|pg||
pc|d9|nt|phicro: C'est très dur de gagner maintenant Il faut mettre l'As de !k sur le 9|pg||
nt|dinos1: blocked|pg||
nt|lc: Is this the real play in the @D suit???|pg||
nt|lc: Dummy played the @D5 and Rosenberg the @D3??? |pg||
nt|swanson: Playing from you hand (without a dummy entry), the @SA, then @SQ is also correct, for the same reason that the @SQ finesse is correct.|pg||
nt|lc: Anyway, if this is how it really went, Rosenberg can still sever him with a @D now.|pg||
nt|mittmouse: no u know declarer has 2 diamonds|pg||
pc|dT|nt|kit: now he will just ruff his fourth diamond in dummy and lead up to the king of hearts|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ritong: deux de chute|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|jwit: Diamond continuation is the killer here|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hK|nt|phicro: et rejouer le Valet de @h|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|nt|kit: Defense could have made life more difficult with earlier club plays|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cJ|nt|jwit: Nicely done by the defense|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ritong: gros swing|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|phicro: 13 points de perdus, rien de mal joué|pg||
nt|ritong: diabolique, de ducker l entame|pg||
nt|ritong: sans fremir|pg||
nt|ritong: remarquable|pg||
pc|h8|mc|10|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SKJ94HAK87D982C72,S72H954DQT653C543,SQT53HJT3D7CKQT86,SA86HQ62DAKJ4CAJ9|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|roghog: strong 1@C|pg||
nt|lesrays: these Chinese ladies seem to be good at storming back - they wiped us out at the finish in the quarters|pg||
mb|2D|nt|roghog: dbl = majors|pg||
nt|xenya: double is probably some 2-suiter|pg||
nt|xenya: ah majors|pg||
mb|2S|nt|lesrays: if she leaves it, EW will have to find their @d fit...|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|lesrays: anyone for playing in 4@s?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|xenya: actually NS can make 4 here i think|pg||
nt|roghog: well, you know where all the points are after the strong @c|pg||
nt|xenya: i can't imagine how that can bid though|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|lesrays: lose @s, @d, @c - but not easy|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s2|nt|xenya: from N's perspective, S might be weaker i think, while S doesn't know anything about N's singleton in diamonds |pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|h4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c9|pc|d9|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|mc|8|pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1SJ85HJT98DATCAKQ7,SKT942H62D7432C63,SQHKQ543DQJCJT942,SA763HA7DK9865C85|sv|b|nt|fann4: Potential swing here.|pg||
nt|avivs: Italy missed a good opportunity here when stopped in 4@s|pg||
nt|brolucius: West's low heart at trick 2 did risk blocking the hearts but it was the best chance of beating the contract.|pg||
nt|kit: and the match gets closer|pg||
nt|antoniz: Italiens finishing very well|pg||
nt|swanson: There must be a boundary to 'strength showing' doubles - surely this one showed good defense against spades (not four cards though)|pg||
nt|robinswr: zia led the queen of hearts playing his partner for AJ10 of hearts|pg||
nt|jwit: Will Zia open 2NT?|pg||
nt|lc: These days, so many treat any 19 (meaning 13 cards) as 20.|pg||
nt|brolucius: North-South must share the blame, I guess, at the other table. It was imaginative to bid a three-card heart suit. |pg||
mb|1N|nt|lc: This is actually a pretty reasonable 19.|pg||
mb|p|nt|3for3: Not a great slam, but perhaps you'd want to be there if you were behind alot|pg||
nt|avivs: than they play trumps safely to make only 5|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is amazing how IMPs can slip away without the South Africans really doing anything wrong at all.|pg||
nt|motbocaj: Nunes was not content to pass 3@C and hope the job was done, he bid on to make sure|pg||
nt|kit: I don't consider West's pass over the weak NT as not doing anything wrong|pg||
nt|jwit: He has the bad 4-3-3-3 distribution, but he has two 10s|pg||
nt|kit: imaginative is a very diplomatic description of that call IMO|pg||
mb|2D|nt|phicro: Pas évident du tout : si le déclarant possède trois @h seulement, il faut prendre et rejouer @h|pg||
mb|d|nt|phicro: Bon, next case|pg||
nt|kit: I would want to be there if it was making, whether I was ahead or behind|pg||
nt|dinos1: 3N by E will be harder to defend|pg||
nt|lc: Their cards says 20-22 -- but everyone should really write 19+-22|pg||
nt|kit: N-S will easily get to 4@H after strong notrump and transfer|pg||
nt|brolucius: Ah yes, but BBO commentators are required (on serious penalty) to be diplomatic. At any rate when Roland is watching.|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|3for3: just looking at your own hands...not theirs!|pg||
nt|kit: 6@C is actually a pretty good contract with diamonds bid by West|pg||
nt|avivs: strangely the 1 level overcall make it much more attractive then after the preemptive 3@d bid in other room|pg||
nt|kit: needs 3-3 hearts or spade finesse, assuming ace of diamonds on|pg||
nt|lc: And nice A-K structure.|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ritong: 3 secondes et demi pour declarer ce joli contrat|pg||
nt|phicro: Pas si joli : ingagnable, je crois, sur entame à @s, avec 3SA sur table|pg||
nt|ritong: les rentrees ne sont pas legion|pg||
nt|ritong: mais sud doit entamer|pg||
nt|juan lukas: on a l'impression ici de voir 11 levées : 8@d 2@c 1@s mais il faudra jouer 2 fois du mort a @d et a @c ...l'entame @s semble battre |pg||
nt|Zmud99: For French kibb : in Venice France +15 vs USA 2 after 6 boards|pg||
nt|kit: East will probably bid 3@D now|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: It is worse than a finesse.|pg||
nt|kit: but the lure of the 4-4 major suit fit is hard to resist|pg||
nt|kit: and West has a tough choice|pg||
nt|kit: Another double is reasonable also|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2NT now is usually 'scramble'. To look for a 4-4 fit somewhere.|pg||
nt|kit: but now what does West do?|pg||
nt|kit: this hand illustrates a problem with bidding Stayman on a hand such as East's|pg||
nt|swanson: 1NT would have made - this will not.|pg||
nt|robinswr: not a good hand for garbage stayman|pg||
nt|fann4: On 4 rounds of @H this will go 2 off.|pg||
mb|p|nt|3for3: depends which contract|pg||
nt|swanson: Good controls and a couple of tens are supreme confidence in your dummy play is worth one point, surely.|pg||
nt|swanson: (and)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://psbridge.gotdns.com/bbo/allvug/  for updated vugraph hand records (PDF)|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ritong: et voila|pg||
nt|phicro: Ouf|pg||
nt|juan lukas: pas trouvé :)|pg||
nt|antoniz: I would pass, would you?|pg||
nt|lc: So, play or defend?|pg||
nt|swanson: Looks one trick short to me.|pg||
nt|swanson: 4 clubs, 2 spades, 2 hearts.|pg||
nt|lc: E-W use 4th best leads here.  The 6 won't be readable -- Zia won't know they are 4-4.|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|Walddk2: Holman doesn't like his four small spades and decides not to cue bid hearts|pg||
nt|lc: Probably East plays the @H9 here?>|pg||
nt|swanson: Zia will bang down the top clubs, later enter dummy with a spade.|pg||
nt|jwit: Actually defense can probably score 2 hearts, 2 diamonds, a spade, and a club |pg||
nt|lc: Maybe he will play a low @S from hand at trick 2?|pg||
pc|dK|nt|kareno: In spades it is worse than a finesse.  In clubs it is a little better with 3-3 hearts added to the finesse|pg||
nt|3for3: any guess what 4@D is|pg||
nt|avivs: so probably 1 Imp to S.A after declarer will take the @s finesse no doubt|pg||
nt|kit: likely a balanced slam try raise of some range|pg||
nt|dinos1: 4333 bad for def|pg||
nt|kit: now West will have to pass I think, although he might try 3NT|pg||
nt|fann4: Actually, almost anything will beat it 2.|pg||
nt|robinswr: zia does not want a ruff, if michael has AK of hearts without the queen|pg||
nt|robinswr: i would have led the queen of hearts, and then i could lead the a or k as suit preferance|pg||
nt|kit: Rosenbert may shift to a trump, since he has such good hearts and can see the heart losers in dummy|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 3@H probably showed 4+ hearts and a minimum|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h6|nt|kit: Nunes considering turning up the heat by doubling?|pg||
pc|h3|nt|ritong: ça ne va pas trainer|pg||
nt|fann4: Normally a splinter, not sure here.|pg||
nt|dinos1: 9 tricks with @c guess|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|phicro: Je ne sais pas comment ces joueuses s'y retrouvent en fournissant le 2 de @h dans cette situation|pg||
nt|kit: there is no way he could possibly get the clubs right on the auction|pg||
nt|brolucius: I shall certainly be buying the World Championship book of this event. There have been so many great deals. |pg||
nt|joest: showed 4 hearts & a minimum|pg||
pc|sA|nt|ritong: apres l ouverture de 1SA|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|mgchat: le coup d'avant va revenir|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|lc: I guess not.|pg||
pc|c5|nt|swanson: It's tough to blame East for looking for a suit contract though - if partner has a major (or diamond fit) with weak clubs it would be a big winner.|pg||
nt|fann4: Isn't 2@C a good % action? Just didn't work here.|pg||
nt|kit: yes, East's actions are probably percentage I agree|pg||
nt|kit: but I'm not sure|pg||
nt|fann4: I am|pg||
nt|robinswr: bidding 2clubs does well when partner has a 4-card major which happens over 50% of the time|pg||
nt|fann4: On a good day you could have a 9 card major fit.|pg||
nt|kit: Having played Puppet Stayman for many years (where I am forced to pass on the East hand), passing seems to turn out surprisingly well|pg||
nt|robinswr: it also does well when partner has four diamonds|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|juan lukas: de plus l'entame de l'A ote tout souci a Béné pour la place du R de @d |pg||
nt|brolucius: Unless South can count declarer's hand in some way, he may rise with the club ace. No, excellent defence, he has played low.|pg||
nt|kit: how can rising club ace ever be right?|pg||
nt|motbocaj: They could get 2 down now with a low spade continuation|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|dinos1: he will|pg||
nt|kit: If declarer has ace of hearts, he has 9 top tricks, so nothing to steal|pg||
nt|vincenzo: Grande Fulvio !|pg||
nt|dinos1: S is known to have @cA|pg||
nt|brolucius: South knows from the opening lead that declarer has four spades and North five.|pg||
nt|brolucius: On many hands it would be right to rise with the @CA and return a spade. |pg||
nt|motbocaj: The Italians in the audience are happy with the pressure being applied in this set so far|pg||
nt|kit: Maybe declarer should have gone after hearts first -- at least sets up 8 tricks, and North can't continue spades safely|pg||
nt|antoniz: still fighting|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c23|st||md|1SJ85HJT98DATCAKQ7,SKT942H62D7432C63,SQHKQ543DQJCJT942,SA763HA7DK9865C85|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|lesrays: France leading Germany by 2, but may be about to change....|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|lesrays: anyone know wha txx means??|pg||
nt|lesrays: ah, I know now|pg||
mb|p|nt|roghog: thank you, operator |pg||
nt|lesrays: indeed:)|pg||
nt|roghog: @s, eh? well, I suppose 4@s is a save if you get the trumps right|pg||
nt|lesrays: EW can make 3@s but NS must bid 4@h - and then what - vul sacrifice?|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|xenya: would be too expensive?|pg||
mb|p|nt|lesrays: which you probably would not....unless......S has only 15 HCP|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg||
nt|xenya: no singletons...|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sQ|nt|roghog: won't take long|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|xenya: give up the 3 aces -- next!|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg||
nt|lesrays: bizarre result on board 22 - EW played 1@d - 1.....NS missed game as well..|pg||
pc|d9|mc|11|pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2SKQ5HK63DT854C853,SAJ7643H8DAKJ2CA6,ST2HAQ5DQ96CQJ972,S98HJT9742D73CKT4|sv|o|nt|juan lukas: un resultat qui va les encourager apres les deux derniers coups |pg||
nt|phicro: On n'a joué que 4@d dans l'autre salle, effectivement|pg||
nt|phicro: Bravo Sylvie pour l'enchère de 5|pg||
nt|kit: declarer playing safe -- West could legally haf stiff heart and 9 diamonds|pg||
nt|3for3: Who opens 2@H here?|pg||
nt|3for3: Not I|pg||
nt|fann4: Some very close decisions in the CR|pg||
nt|motbocaj: very brave Roland|pg||
nt|dinos1: closer and closer|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Starting tomorrow, back to our normal schedule|pg||
nt|antoniz: 10 imps still left|pg||
nt|robinswr: garner-weinstein had the same auction|pg||
nt|mittmouse: down 1 sorry|pg||
nt|barnets: north led the cQ here which made it easier for zia|pg||
mb|1S|nt|juan lukas: oui , belle preuve de confiance|pg||
nt|Zmud99: nous avons un petit souci avec l'ordinateur de votre operateur...il est tres lent et donc les delais ne sont pas dus aux joueuses...|pg||
nt|Zmud99: pour la precedente Béné n'avait pas hesitée si longtemps|pg||
nt|ritong: c est internet|pg||
nt|mgchat: moins courageuses que Sylvie de l'autre coté puisqu'elles ont passé sur 4@d|pg||
nt|ritong: oui, il y a eu plain de latences difficiles a expliquer d un point de vue technique(de bridge)|pg||
nt|ritong: plein*|pg||
nt|phicro: Bien|pg||
nt|fann4: NS in 3NT in the CR, on a @H lead.|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: or East could have ace of diamonds -- certainly not right to risk the contract|pg||
nt|avivs: a kibitzer noted correctly that better not to take the finesse since when it's on then Slam would make|pg||
nt|motbocaj: SA need just one significant swing I feel to see them through, something to stop the seepage|pg||
nt|dinos1: wd u open 1@h?|pg||
mb|1N|nt|kit: I would open a weak 2, as you might guess Danny|pg||
nt|antoniz: never|pg||
nt|kit: everybody should know the actual score is 151-160.7, so if Italy gains 10 imps it isn't a tie -- italy wins|pg||
nt|brolucius: I guess around half the BB field would open 1@H. Maybe more.|pg||
nt|joest: east-west did well to get to game in the other room i would say|pg||
nt|kit: Cope did well to resp;ond|pg||
nt|barnets: who played 3 clubs and pitched his heart|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: There are people who would open 2@H with West.  Not my style, though!|pg||
nt|lc: Good Poker hand, anyway.|pg||
nt|jwit: I"m with you Larry.  |pg||
mb|3D|nt|Zmud99: Esperons que le typhon prevu demain epargne ce quart de finale...|pg||
nt|phicro: Encore une main à accident en Nord-Sud|pg||
nt|3for3: I knew Kit would |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Rumour has it that Italy will be leading after board 26. We shall see|pg||
nt|kit: It will be difficult for N-S to stop low on this misfit|pg||
mb|p|nt|fann4: That is not correct, as Reese once pointed out. You throw away a trick for nothing. But in this case he was perhaps right, for a different reason.|pg||
nt|motbocaj: I definitely would, 27 ZAR's|pg||
nt|dinos1: now discount @dK|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Not totally obvious to bid game, but I suppose West is forced into it - 2@D is not enough here|pg||
nt|kit: Holman should be worth a jump shift now|pg||
nt|joest: now a pref and a game bid|pg||
nt|brolucius: Rosenberg has often argued for light responses, when commentating on BBO. This hand shows exactly why he thinks they are a good idea.|pg||
nt|kit: now, 3@H-3@S, and will Cope violate and pass?|pg||
mb|3H|nt|ritong: entre une et deux de chute|pg||
nt|kit: Difficult to stop after the opening bid, but Cope might downgrade his king of diamonds|pg||
nt|dinos1: still 4@h|pg||
nt|jwit: Maybe multi if playing it, but would still rather be white vs red|pg||
nt|lc: Their card says "fir jumps by PH" -- but I guess not.|pg||
nt|lc: fit |pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: ça dépend beaucoup de l'entame, mais @d est de loin la meilleure pour EO|pg||
nt|mgchat: bien pesé oui|pg||
nt|juan lukas: je ne sais pas si les americaines jouent le 2/1 forcing ou non face a une intervention mais il est sur que l'enchere de 1SA a évité qu'elles n'aillent trop haut |pg||
nt|lc: I presume the alert was "weak" on both sides of the screen?  They have to fix their conv card.  Or else, they both forgot.|pg||
mb|3S|nt|kareno: Not this camper.|pg||
nt|3for3: 4 top losers here...anothe small gain to Italy, barring disaster|pg||
nt|kit: the hoping spade finesse is off reasoning doesn't make sense -- if they are in slam at the other table, what you do down't matter -- you might as well be playing in a different ...|pg||
nt|kit: universe|pg||
nt|fann4: I think SA have taken a decision to keep up the pre-emptive action as much as possible.|pg||
nt|avivs: only makes if Lauria will try to "cut down" dummy's @h ruffing|pg||
nt|kit: I'll admit that I would|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Note though that those light responses are in tandem with "sound opening bids", noted on the system card|pg||
mb|p|nt|dinos1: I wd invite after 2@d bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|antoniz: right|pg||
nt|kit: After 2 rounds of diamonds, a couple of hearts, and a losing spade finesse, North has to shift to a low club to put some pressure on for down 2|pg||
nt|motbocaj: It's not the luckiest layout of the defenders cards...|pg||
nt|brolucius: 4@H seems a bit too much, even for a macho Bermuda Bowl player.|pg||
nt|kit: Just what Zia wanted to hear|pg||
nt|swanson: 2@C is a game force for ROsenberg - Mahmood I believe.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.bridgefederation.ch/2007/bb/vugraph/index.html  for updated vugraph archives courtesy of Yvan Calame from Switzerland|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: whether it is or not, it sure is now|pg||
nt|lc: By the way, nobody relies much on the acutal convention cards during the match.  They rely on the written explanations.|pg||
nt|joest: well you're honest Kit :)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: You have a reputation for dropping forcing bids, don't you Kit?|pg||
nt|brolucius: So would I. East can always justify it by saying: 'Well, I could easily have passed 1@S.'|pg||
nt|kit: 4@S is certainly no bargain on these cards, but it can make with Qxx of diamonds coming down if you play for that|pg||
nt|kit: or get the friendly queen of clubs lead|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|fann4: We have seen 4 lightish actions by W in the CR, not duplicated here by Versace.|pg||
nt|barnets: i would bid 4 i must say|pg||
pc|c4|nt|Walddk2: Australia pulling some back against USA1. 29-7 after 7 boards, but still 84 adrift|pg||
pc|c3|nt|antoniz: especially if you open with 10 PC in your system|pg||
nt|fann4: An old fashioned  1@D-1@H; 1@S-3@H; Pass  ?  Or is South too god?|pg||
nt|fann4: too good|pg||
nt|robinswr: i've started playing 2-way game tries over 1di - 1ht - 1sp which would allow you to stop in 2hearts|pg||
nt|kit: the problem is that 3@H might be a worse contract than 3NT if partner is short in hearts as expected|pg||
nt|fann4: But does the S hand have enough for game?|pg||
nt|swanson: I like to use 2@S over 4th suit as an artificial minimum without support for partner's suit; can get out in 2NT.|pg||
nt|fann4: Not everyone plays these types of jump shifts (after a 1NT response) as 100% forcing to game.|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|kit: with all suits covered, sometimes 3NT just plain makes even underweight|pg||
pc|c6|nt|ritong: sequence identique dans l autre salle|pg||
pc|c7|nt|kit: oh I play them as 100% forcing to game|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c5|pg||
nt|kit: this won't be one of those times though|pg||
pc|cK|nt|kit: declarer should go up -- if West had Qxx of spades, he would have led back a heart|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h8|pc|c2|pg||
nt|3for3: 4 more imps to italy|pg||
nt|kit: doesn't mean I wouldn't pass 3@S though|pg||
nt|joest: except when playing with yourself|pg||
pc|d3|nt|avivs: they are grinding hard but still a long way to go|pg||
nt|3for3: now up 15, all on 'small' stuff...shows you dont need to get desperate to win imps back|pg||
nt|kit: Laurie has weird problem now|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: K of @h or A of @c?|pg||
nt|kit: he doesn't know which will cash!|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes indeed.|pg||
nt|3for3: i prematurely predicted he would cash out correctly...|pg||
nt|avivs: surely Versace would have discarded a low @c from xxxxx|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: Maybe with 5 card in @c W discard a @c|pg||
nt|jwit: Best defense would have nicked this a trick|pg||
pc|d5|nt|vugraphs1: wd|pg||
nt|kit: Presumably West gave count -- but West could have started with 4 hearts and 5 clubs|pg||
nt|3for3: versace should have given him count in one of the suits|pg||
nt|kit: Zia just praying for Axx of hearts on and ace of spades on|pg||
pc|dA|nt|phicro: C'est pas pour dire... Mais 1SA est vraiment évident avec les cartes d'Est|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|phicro: :)|pg||
nt|ritong: "c est pas pour dire"...:)|pg||
nt|ritong: mdr|pg||
nt|juan lukas: oui oui ce n'etait en rien une critique déguisée |pg||
nt|mgchat: identique en salle ouverte|pg||
nt|phicro: non non, mais mieux vaut prévenir que guérir :):)|pg||
nt|kareno: A spec asks what he is thinking about.. and the answer is heart or club?|pg||
nt|3for3: My faith justified :)|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|dinos1: @s ruff missed|pg||
nt|swanson: Rosenberg underled because he knows that West has a weak hand.  It was not a lucky time to try it.|pg||
nt|lc: I was too busy looking up their system notes -- hope you guys have the play and desfense covered :)|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d9|nt|kit: nunes did well returning a spade -- now there will be no endplay|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
nt|barnets: but you play strong club kit|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dQ|nt|jwit: Opening lead let them make Larry|pg||
pc|s8|pc|dT|pg||
pc|s9|nt|bjacobs: Some play that the immediate preference (to 3@S here) is non-forcing|pg||
pc|s5|nt|brolucius: Even if you want to stretch to thin games - perhaps because of the match situation - it is necessary for one player to make an accurate limit bid and for partner to then decide ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: whethere to bid a game/slam. No good if both players overbid on the same hand, for example.|pg||
pc|s3|nt|lc: Well, he made a good lead a few boards ago.  Now he's even.|pg||
nt|jwit: Should have been down one with best defense|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|kit: I'm talking about when I'm playing standard Barnet|pg||
pc|hA|mc|11|nt|lc: They've done enough "best defense" so far.  Can't have it all.|pg||
nt|barnets: well G/f is g/f|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Halfway through the set, South Africa are two swings away from history|pg||
nt|joest: I'm sure that's what HOlman thinks right now|pg||
nt|barnets: but a gap has opened |pg||
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qx|c24|st||md|2SKQ5HK63DT854C853,SAJ7643H8DAKJ2CA6,ST2HAQ5DQ96CQJ972,S98HJT9742D73CKT4|sv|o|nt|lesrays: USA in 4S on this board at moment... will it be x'd?|pg||
nt|lesrays: board 23 that is|pg||
mb|1S|nt|roghog: another strong 1@c|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|lesrays: sorry 3@d - 1 not one|pg||
mb|3D|nt|xenya: and x-ed|pg||
nt|xenya: hence 1 imp|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|xenya: 2@S looks very normal here|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|xenya: i mean the final contract|pg||
mb|4S|nt|lesrays: How many off will 4@s x be? Depends on view in trumps, 500 or 800|pg||
nt|lesrays: I am still on 23..;)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|xenya: interesting pass by W over 2@H|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c7|nt|roghog: 4@s may well be bid on this one|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|h8|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|s3|pc|h5|pg||
nt|roghog: ...losing 2@s and one @h|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|s8|nt|xenya: but i don't think 4@S is likely to be bid at the other table...|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h3|nt|xenya: or at any other table for that matter|pg||
pc|s4|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|sT|pc|h4|pc|dT|pg||
pc|hA|nt|xenya: at least not if you play a strong @C system|pg||
nt|roghog: good hand for Acol Twos - but no one will be playing them|pg||
nt|lesrays: chance for the Chinese gone begging there|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3S7HKJT85DA43CQ873,SKQ643H42DT52CJ65,SJT952H3DKQJ97CKT,SA8HAQ976D86CA942|sv|e|nt|juan lukas: 2@h restant naturel |pg||
nt|phicro: Ce qui veut donc dire que 2@h vient souvent d'une main avec singleton à @s|pg||
nt|mgchat: oui; c'est bien ca Jean-Luc, toi qui est a la pointe du progres @h|pg||
nt|juan lukas: voire une chicane Philippe dans le cas present :)|pg||
nt|kit: he did give him count -- but the count didn't necessarily help|pg||
nt|kareno: More long suits - what a tournament for long suits!|pg||
nt|kit: I don't buy this stretching to game because of the match philosophy.  Just play the best bridge you can.|pg||
nt|motbocaj: you would prefer to be in 4@S probably, then there is a heart pitch for the 3rd round of clubs|pg||
nt|lc: 12-14 NT here.|pg||
nt|swanson: There wasn't any weak defense - just an unlucky, but thoughtful, lead.|pg||
nt|lc: Maybe Zia will get to do something sexy with that SOuth hand opposite the 12-14.|pg||
nt|lc: Probably after interference from Cope.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|phicro: :)|pg||
nt|avivs: CR is in 5@dX|pg||
nt|lc: 2@C=Majors,  2@D=1 major  2@S=@S and a minor|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Norway now 64 IMPs in front against Netherlands|pg||
nt|jwit: Yes, John, you're right, let's just call it an unfortunate though thoughtful opening lead|pg||
nt|lc: So, if their card can be believed this time, 2@S is @S and a minor.  He does seem to have that.|pg||
nt|swanson: There is some danger coming in over a notrump bid with the East hand, but it is more dangerous to pass.|pg||
nt|lc: I agree John.  Too dnagerous to pass.|pg||
nt|lc: have to get in.|pg||
nt|jwit: Might have started with a double|pg||
nt|lc: So, what creation will Mr. Mahmood produce.|pg||
nt|lc: I'll go out on a limb with a wild guess -- 3NT!!!|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: Oh Zia, you let me down.|pg||
mb|1N!|an|4!s+ |nt|ritong: comme vous n etes chicanier ni l un ni l autre, je ne suis pas inquiet|pg||
nt|phicro: Est-ce que Nord va avoir le courage d'annoncer les SA tout de suite ???|pg||
nt|dinos1: 3 is enuff|pg||
nt|dinos1: 3@s I mean|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Venice Cup: USA1 are virtually through to the semi-finals, leading by 159 IMPs against Egypt. China has a healthy lead against England, whereas the remaining two (USA2 v France and ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Germany v Canada) are rather close|pg||
nt|kit: SA did not take a good save in closed room -- no game makes for E-W it doesn't look like|pg||
nt|lc: I kind of like 3NT.  I never "psyche" -- but this would be a nice operation -- trying to keep opps out of 4@S on some days.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Perhaps you should pass 3@S only when you hold fewer than two spades. East's hand was not entirely desperate in support.|pg||
mb|2D|nt|fann4: In the CR, N went to 5@D, where E bid 4@S over 1@D.|pg||
nt|fann4: Another difference in overcall - 4@S there, 1@S here.|pg||
nt|kit: Looks pretty normal to save on the North hand -- with 8 winners outright|pg||
nt|kareno: For those who wonder, the deals are random.  There would be no possibility of any 'cooked' deals coming into these events.|pg||
nt|joest: this seems odd.  LIke a MIchaels bid w/o the explanation of 1NT|pg||
nt|kit: good point -- |pg||
nt|barnets: I dont think you get to choose or mabe you willneed  to choose a new partner|pg||
nt|bjacobs: South will read it ok|pg||
nt|bjacobs: South will also read 2@D OK|pg||
nt|joest: yes|pg||
nt|kit: much more sensible|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: sry change her bid because alert 1NT !!! :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fann4: N/S play Good/Bad here.|pg||
nt|3for3: double maximal?|pg||
nt|3for3: looks like a trick got away in other room in 5@D|pg||
nt|fann4: If S squeaks N will save.|pg||
nt|kit: I would think East should just bid 4@S.  Even if not making, likely opponents would save at this vul.|pg||
nt|dinos1: u dont worry abt 4@h|pg||
mb|3D|nt|kit: North will save regardless of what South does|pg||
nt|kareno: Some sort of game try double I would guess.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Remember there are screens - no harm done|pg||
nt|kit: fortunately with screens partner doesn't know this has happened |pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: Non, mais maintenant oui|pg||
nt|dinos1: y - good soft raise|pg||
nt|brolucius: Awkward decision for North because he has good defence against hearts. Well, it seems that his 3@S may be exactly the right action.|pg||
nt|motbocaj: this doesn't look good for SA at all, 4@H doubled is a possibility|pg||
mb|p|nt|juan lukas: elle privilegie d'abord sa distribution visiblement |pg||
nt|lc: So, 4@S was making -- this looks like a good save.|pg||
nt|jwit: Indeed|pg||
nt|mittmouse: y wd|pg||
nt|swanson: If you bid 3NT Larry and it goes 4@S - Dbl - Pass, would you pass?  At least this way Zia is reasonably comfortable taking the save.|pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: N'en déplaise à Henri, je ne suis toujours pas convaincu du bien fondé de ces ouvertures faibles|pg||
nt|kit: Fantoni did better bidding only 3@S, now opponents headed for minus score unless East passes the double|pg||
nt|fann4: Why did E bid ahead of W here?|pg||
nt|robinswr: if you're going to lead the queen of hearts, why not lead the jack and get attitude for the 10|pg||
pc|d8|nt|avivs: the Double by opener shows a maximum|pg||
nt|kit: East would have been quite clever to pass 4@H|pg||
nt|3for3: So, I see there is squeeze to hold 5@D to down one, but it can be broken up by 3 rounds of hearts...|pg||
nt|kit: a trump lead might be effective here|pg||
nt|bjacobs: As has been pointed out to me, if East was slow in alerting, then he has transgressed, and has unauthorized information about North's spades|pg||
nt|bjacobs: But no problem - 10 or 20 lawyers should be able to sort it out|pg||
nt|joest: i take it cope and garner are on the same side of the screen|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes|pg||
pc|dA|nt|mgchat: pas celle ci en tout cas|pg||
nt|ritong: j aime bien  ouvrir quand j ai le contrat en main|pg||
nt|ritong: ça rassure:)|pg||
pc|d5|nt|phicro: D'un autre côté, si Nord avait passé, déclarer la manche n'aurait pas été si facile...|pg||
nt|kit: And this is going to virtually even up the match!|pg||
nt|lc: Well, I am not experienced with bids such as 3NT.  I was just trying to be like Zia  :)|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|kareno: Seems like south wasn't going to allow a game contract to play e/w|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Germany also through I predict. Now 217 - 166.3 against Canada|pg||
nt|dinos1: good start|pg||
nt|jwit: Well judged by EW as well|pg||
nt|mittmouse: it is even hard for cope to find a dbl that extra 50 may decide the match|pg||
nt|swanson: You do well being yourself - risky for any of us trying to be Zia.|pg||
pc|s7|nt|ritong: disons que béné, tout a l heure, avec 6 @cs maitres et @s V10xx avait une ouverture plus pure selon ce critère|pg||
nt|kit: After high spade lead, East needs to shift to hearts -- he will probably do that|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|phicro: oui, birn sûr|pg||
nt|phicro: bien, pardon|pg||
pc|s2|nt|kit: And West has to overtake and play a third heart|pg||
nt|brolucius: This will be a set to remember, whether or not the South Africans manage to hold on to some small part of their lead.|pg||
nt|kit: I guess he felt there was no future in defending, so wanted to describe his hand|pg||
nt|fann4: Was there a rush?|pg||
nt|kit: Declarer with 6 tricks puts the defense in hoping they will break the wrong suit|pg||
nt|fann4: EW in 3N in the CR|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|swanson: It's good to be able to tell partner you have a balanced minimum range hand at the one level.  So unlikly to be able to defend profitably against 1 level non-vul opponents.|pg||
nt|kit: good point Bill.  That really is a problem|pg||
pc|d2|nt|robinswr: if it went 1club double redouble back to me, I would bid 1diamond (even though if have only three)|pg||
nt|brolucius: The diagonal screen is arranged so that the two women in a mixed pairs can chat to each other. That is how I remember it.|pg||
pc|dK|nt|juan lukas: le probleme de passer avec la main de N c'est que sa main est assez puissante face a un fit @c ou @h et que si elle n'ouvre pas il faudra sans doute se manifester ensuite .... ...|pg||
nt|juan lukas: intervenir a @c ds le V 6eme n'est pas plus excitant que d'ouvrir 1@c non ? |pg||
nt|jwit: Unblocking is best here, otherwise some slight danger of being endplayed later on|pg||
nt|lc: And, I suppose he thinks declarer wouldn't play this way if he held the @HJ?|pg||
nt|jwit: If he doesn't unblock, Zia can make it double dummy|pg||
pc|d6|nt|kit: Now East must cash a spade and play a heart|pg||
nt|robinswr: if i don't bid the next suit, i really have that suit|pg||
nt|kit: Rosenberg thought declarer has KQ of spades from 10 of spades shift|pg||
nt|jwit: WD|pg||
nt|joest: nice play by garner|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|s5|nt|kit: which he will do|pg||
pc|sA|pc|d4|nt|kit: And West should work it out -- because East would have led low from KQx on 2nd round|pg||
nt|dinos1: @c back|pg||
nt|dinos1: then @c ruff|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|phicro: Sauf que le partenaire sait que l'on n'a pas l'ouverture quand on a passé d'entrée, disait Monsieur de la Palice|pg||
pc|c3|nt|juan lukas: :)|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ritong: qui etait un malin|pg||
pc|cK|nt|antoniz: good agressive bidding by F-N|pg||
nt|joest: holman needed to play low on the spade to the closed hand|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Germany up by 15 now, 4 boards remaining|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|ritong: lui aussi|pg||
nt|kit: but Versace fell from grace|pg||
nt|kit: just as well this will make.  If it had gone down, I think USA would have a serious appeal|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cQ|nt|kit: Now declarer runs all his trumps, and has easy squeeze|pg||
pc|c6|nt|motbocaj: The key to Fantoni bidding only 3@S was his defence to 4@H|pg||
nt|mittmouse: good play if he didnt unblock declarer would have to ruff as and play a of c to make it|pg||
nt|swanson: Zia was hurting for dummy entries to eliminate spade and try the end play.  Maybe he should have ducked the heart, trying to establish the long heart in dummy.|pg||
nt|lc: So, without the unblock, Zia might have made it.  He would know a lot about the hand and might have ruffed a spade, @CA, @C over, ruff the last @S and exit in hearts.  Yes.|pg||
nt|jwit: Yes|pg||
nt|lc: This would be wrong if East had @CKx and @HKx.|pg||
nt|jwit: Also true|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|dinos1: -2, and 11 for Italy. New leader)|pg||
pc|c7|nt|jwit: However, with the unblock, contract can't be made|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|bjacobs: Unless the alert was prompt and proper, and North just didn't see it|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|Walddk2: The South African lead has evaporated. 11 IMPs to Italy now and a new leader|pg||
pc|h6|nt|swanson: Anyway, a nice paly by Cope to insure the set.|pg||
pc|h5|nt|phicro: Et d'ailleurs, pour corroborer tout ça, on a joué 4@c dans l'autre salle|pg||
nt|antoniz: looks like a truth - Italy a leader  after 26'th  board|pg||
nt|swanson: play|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|sK|pg||
nt|bjacobs: But then, maybe he doesn't get to take back his bid, I don't know|pg||
nt|bjacobs: That's why you need the 20 or 30 lawyers|pg||
mc|9|nt|kit: exactly -- the fact that he did get to take his bid back means the alert wasn't timely|pg||
nt|joest: as a lawyer, trust me, that doesn't solve anything|pg||
nt|Walddk2: As soon as I speak things happen in those matches. Germany up by just 1.7 now|pg||
pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3S7HKJT85DA43CQ873,SKQ643H42DT52CJ65,SJT952H3DKQJ97CKT,SA8HAQ976D86CA942|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|xenya: double?|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|lesrays: now where will this one end....|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lesrays: Germany getting upper hand in other match....|pg||
nt|roghog: 5 losers off the top|pg||
nt|xenya: in a very inferior 3N i would say|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg||
nt|xenya: interesting things may have happened if N had doubled (instead of 3@D) -- E passes, so does S -- would W now correct to 2@S?|pg||
nt|lesrays: we'll never know|pg||
nt|xenya: and if she did, where would it get them?|pg||
nt|roghog: a different big minus|pg||
nt|xenya: i think S expected N to be stronger in terms of hcp|pg||
nt|lesrays: knows from lead, I guess, that pard has no Honour|pg||
nt|roghog: 2@h was bid in the Open too. seems very fragile at these colours|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|nt|roghog: these ladies are braver than me!|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
nt|Walddk7: Welcome to a member of the England ladies team, Sarah Teshome|pg||
nt|lesrays: Hi, Sarah, commiserations - good shot|pg||
nt|steshome: Hello all - exciting match|pg||
nt|lesrays: lots of opportunities missed on both sides|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|d4|nt|lesrays: you will know how tired they will all be!|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s9|pc|h6|pc|dA|mc|8|pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4SA5HT63DKJ865CKT4,S93H2DQ9732CAQJ53,SQJT764HAQ95DAC82,SK82HKJ874DT4C976|sv|b|nt|juan lukas: ce coup ci , N a une ouverture indiscutable :) |pg||
nt|ritong: wow|pg||
nt|ritong: on peut le dire|pg||
nt|kit: Kibitzers are talking about lauria playing a club to break up squeeze.  Sure, that works.  But remember, he can't see all the hands|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: North ask if West had 3@c|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The official website has a different scoreline. I believe ours is correct and that a result has been entered incorrectly into Bridgemate|pg||
nt|kit: Give North the jack of clubs, and how would a club shift do?|pg||
nt|motbocaj: no prizes for leading for 90 boards if behind at the end... still 7 boards to go|pg||
nt|dinos1: 7 brds to play|pg||
nt|dinos1: 6@h?|pg||
nt|kit: was he down 1 or making?|pg||
nt|kit: I thought he had 7 tricks|pg||
nt|lc: We've seen some top-level defensive card play this segment.|pg||
nt|lc: 15-17 Notrump this time.  |pg||
nt|lc: North will make some sort of slam try and it wouldn't shock me if they reach a slam (they love slams).|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: But this won't imporve South Africa's cause|pg||
nt|kit: and here comes a big SA disaster in closed room|pg||
nt|barnets: and the other semi close too|pg||
mb|1C|nt|Walddk2: And USA's lead in the Venice Cup match against China has shrunk to 4 IMPs|pg||
mb|p|nt|dinos1: 4@h?|pg||
nt|motbocaj: It's the kind of slam that makes much more often when the AK are not on lead!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 2@D is 10-13, 5+ diamonds, unbalanced|pg||
nt|jwit: Only a club lead will beat 6H from the south side|pg||
nt|lc: 6@H from South is fine if no @C lead.  With a @C lead it is hopeless.|pg||
nt|lc: Maybe x-fer then splinter. |pg||
nt|jwit: Splinter won't turn Zia on however|pg||
nt|swanson: One can see N-S pushing to a heart slam here. |pg||
nt|lc: No, splinter makes his @D holding poor.  But he will love the @HKQx.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1NT is 12-14 NV and vul 4th, 15-17  1-3  vul|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Makes this match look like a runaway|pg||
mb|1H!|an|!s|nt|mgchat: de quoi ouvrez vous ?|pg||
nt|phicro: La seule raison pour laquelle on gagne 7@c sur cette donne, c'est qu'on n'a pas de rentrée vers Sud pour tenter l'impasse au Roi d'atout|pg||
nt|avivs: CR is in 3@h|pg||
nt|3for3: Sometimes it hurts your analysis to have GIB....you see things the players can't possibly play for|pg||
nt|fann4: And going 1 down there.|pg||
nt|robinswr: 4spades and 3hearts|pg||
nt|kit: operator -- check result of last board please|pg||
mb|d|nt|kit: I never use GIB for exactly that reason|pg||
mb|p!|nt|ritong: catherine a ouvert forcing de manche|pg||
nt|brolucius: If the South Africans are not playing so strongly as they did in the first five sets (when they did wonderfully), this can perhaps be put down to the pressure applied by the fine ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: Italian play.|pg||
nt|robinswr: 3spades and 3hearts|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: ok 7 tricks sry|pg||
nt|kit: I don't think Garnewr Weinstein are going to stop below game after the opening bid|pg||
nt|joest: shows a weak NT and perhaps only two spades (I think)|pg||
nt|fann4: Possible gain for SA if NS get to 4@S|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Norway up by 52 with 4 to go|pg||
mb|3D|nt|ritong: et daniele a proposé les @c librement|pg||
nt|phicro: J'aurais fait comme Catherine D'Ovidio|pg||
nt|brolucius: There was huge pressure on both teams in this final set.|pg||
nt|kit: North will be afraid that he is off a cashing ace-king -- but not the suit he would expect|pg||
nt|motbocaj: I think 4NT was intended for takeout in the other room, and North did |pg||
nt|antoniz: there will not be good news for SA|pg||
nt|twcho: don't think SA has much pressure as Italy. They are the Cinderella team|pg||
nt|fann4: Got to go, bye all.|pg||
nt|kit: no way Garner won't drive to game|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Even with the double of 2@H, which is a negative for him|pg||
nt|barnets: misunderstanding here|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: Holman  alert X take out |pg||
nt|bjacobs: 1@H I should say|pg||
nt|kit: I think E-W have had a mixup on the meaning of the double of 1@H|pg||
mb|4S|nt|kareno: Yes, and GIB knows the cards which the players don't.  I think analysis here should be done without aids of any sort.|pg||
nt|kit: I would rather mis-analyze the hand on my own|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: Absolutely Kit.  Not even close.|pg||
nt|kit: and I often will misanalyze, that's for sure|pg||
nt|3for3: Yes, and you get so many pleasant messages when you do misanalyze :)|pg||
nt|lc: This must be the way they show some unbalanced slam try, I suppose.|pg||
mb|p|nt|fann4: If South backs in this could be messy for them.|pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: Ouvrir d'1@s ne permet pas de s'en sortir tellement facilement, il me semble|pg||
nt|Zmud99: 7@C en salle fermée|pg||
nt|ritong: voyons si phil a tapé juste|pg||
nt|vugraphs4: maybe N thinking|pg||
nt|phicro: Si elle les joue de la main de SUd, elle va recevoir l'entame à l'atout !!!|pg||
nt|vugraphs4: aha you are watching now?|pg||
nt|Zmud99: entame @D A|pg||
nt|antoniz: can not agree SA got a success already|pg||
nt|kit: I think they may be headed for the slam now|pg||
nt|jwit: Yes, probably|pg||
nt|lc: System notes don't say.|pg||
nt|jwit: 3NT probably asks|pg||
nt|bjacobs: No problem - nothing that 30 or 40 lawyers can't sort out Frederic|pg||
nt|brolucius: Nothing much wrong with 4@S as a contract, anyway.|pg||
nt|barnets: but survived|pg||
nt|joest: except for the most important thing|pg||
nt|kit: Weinstein wants to go back to 3@D doubled|pg||
pc|dT|nt|lc: So, 3NT probably asks:  "Where is the shortness"|pg||
nt|bjacobs: In this situation, there is no call for the director, because no one knows there's been a problem|pg||
nt|bjacobs: ... yet|pg||
nt|fann4: 5 imps to SA likely|pg||
nt|kit: There may have been mis-information given, but I think Garner was told the double showed hearts -- all that matters|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: the director is in the table |pg||
nt|kit: And he is going to bid a game on his hand anyway|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: Garner call the director|pg||
nt|brolucius: If you lose a match nowadays, you just give your scorecard to your team of lawyers and say 'Right, it's up to you now.'|pg||
nt|bjacobs: very good|pg||
nt|kit: North and East on same side of screen, right?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: correct|pg||
nt|joest: i agree with Kit that if Garner is properly alerted, all seems well|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Screen runs SE - NW|pg||
pc|d5|nt|phicro: Car je ne crois pas que son adversaire ait l'outrecuidance de poser l'As de @d sur la table|pg||
nt|ritong: dans tous les cas on les fait, je pense|pg||
nt|kareno: I had a few last night.  Mea Culpa!|pg||
nt|kit: This 4@C call was quite a shot in the dark|pg||
nt|fann4: Forget that, 4C is fine.|pg||
nt|kareno: Opposite a third-seat opening bid I think I would give up with the south hand.|pg||
nt|kareno: He's fine, though.|pg||
nt|kit: But it looks like he will survive with favorable club layout|pg||
nt|kit: worse -- was opposite an overcall|pg||
nt|dinos1: NS can land in 6 after 4@s|pg||
nt|jwit: Zia will probably sign off with that diamond holding|pg||
pc|d2|nt|ritong: car ouest ne peut pas surcouper le troisieme @s|pg||
nt|3for3: He may survive, but it seems like an incredible riske for comparatively little gain....|pg||
nt|kareno: Oh, definitely worse - no indication his partner would have opened the bidding!|pg||
nt|kareno: He got lucky.|pg||
nt|3for3: both contracts need to make to show a real profit|pg||
nt|kit: declarer will play club to 9, then another club finesse -- percentage play|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|juan lukas: 6@c semble la bonne dose non ? on peut encaisser l'A @c et si le R ne vient pas encaisser 3 tours de @s pour defausser le @h pendant que le flanc coupe du R d'atout |pg||
nt|ritong: au pire|pg||
nt|phicro: c'est parfaitement exact|pg||
nt|Zmud99: 7@C = en salle ouverte :)|pg||
nt|motbocaj: I don't completely agree with that, if you a country that is not expected to qualify you don't want to miss what might be your only chance of winning a world championship|pg||
nt|jwit: Partner needs too much in the black suits to overcome the right black suit lead|pg||
nt|lc: I wouldn't want to be on lead with West if they did drive there.  My tendancy would be to lead from the KING -- hoping for the @SQ with partner.  A better shot than finding him ...|pg||
nt|lc: with both the KING and QUEEN of @C.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I am now told that the 11 IMP penalty USA1 sustained in the match against China is included on the scoreboard, so USA by 7 is the actual score|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 5 boards to go|pg||
nt|brolucius: My earlier comment about the positioning of the screens was wrong (I was told by a representative of the WBF). They position the screen to prevent the two women talking to each ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: other. Sorry if I misled anyone.|pg||
nt|kit: I imagine he will pass queen of spades, spade to ace, king of diamonds for club pitch, and then try a heart -- down 1|pg||
nt|kit: N-S open all balanced hands which aren't 1NT openers 1C|pg||
nt|kit: or 1 of a major openers|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ritong: mrs sanborn est tres retive|pg||
nt|phicro: Bravo Danièle|pg||
nt|ritong: mais sa partenaire a du mordant|pg||
nt|phicro: Elle va peut-être dire 6@c, maintenant|pg||
nt|ritong: et du jeu|pg||
nt|mgchat: extremement bien encheri du coté de Catherine et Daniele|pg||
nt|ritong: vous trouvez?|pg||
nt|swanson: Interesting 2NT rebid by Bosenberg, maybe dictated by system.|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ritong: les grands avec une clé dehors, il vaut mieux les faire|pg||
nt|phicro: Mais ça conforte le discopurs de tout à l'heure : à vouloir ouvrir au palier de 1, on se trouve obligé de jouer au palier de 5|pg||
nt|juan lukas: heu Michele , jouer le grand chelem sans le R d'atout n'est pas forcement tres bien enchéri ..... en tout cas tres efficace ici |pg||
nt|ritong: unless lauria inserts @c Q|pg||
nt|dinos1: yes|pg||
nt|swanson: N-A are safe on this hand at the 5-level, but I don't think Roasenberg has another bid coming.|pg||
nt|swanson: n-S|pg||
nt|Walddk2: True Larry, everything being equal, but East had a chance to double 2@D as well as 3@S and did not|pg||
nt|jwit: Good point Larry, though I think Zia's 4H was well judged on the auction|pg||
nt|mittmouse: if they had been in slam holman may have led a spade|pg||
nt|lc: Not clear East would double 3@S with just the queen -- but I do see your point, Roland.|pg||
pc|sA|nt|motbocaj: the pressure within the team would be enormous|pg||
nt|kit: asking for kings??|pg||
nt|lc: I wouldn't be surprised if there are some 1430's on the wrong lead in the other matches.|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|mgchat: oui, |pg||
pc|s5|nt|ritong: cheri sera deçue de perdere 13 sur celle ci|pg||
pc|s9|nt|kit: Lauria won't, do that, and even if he did what difference?|pg||
nt|avivs: I just think he was going to put S.A on the board for this set by any means neccessary... :)|pg||
nt|dinos1: wow|pg||
nt|kit: oh my!|pg||
nt|antoniz: looking for a great?|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|3for3: though, if he does make it, will be his sides first imp's this segment|pg||
nt|kit: Cope couldn't believe his good fortune, and didn't take full advantage|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|juan lukas: ceci dit je ne comprends pas trop pourquoi Sud a dit 4@s sur 4@c et pas 5@c |pg||
nt|phicro: Comme prévu, les Américaines ont retouvé le chelem|pg||
nt|kit: and cost himself 7 IMPs|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Well, still hope for SA|pg||
nt|dinos1: push)))|pg||
nt|kit: I have no idea what went wrong|pg||
nt|brolucius: 'Sorry if I am insulting you, lads, but I am going to lead a top diamond.'|pg||
nt|motbocaj: I don't care what the bidding means, I lead A@D :)|pg||
pc|c9|nt|ritong: it creates a problem|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The recommended trump lead against a grand slam is not such a great idea here|pg||
nt|kit: no kidding -- I don't trust anybody that much|pg||
pc|cK|nt|kit: He knows Lauria would never play Q from KQx -- his partner might have stiff jack|pg||
pc|cA|nt|kit: Why John?  He has fine spade stopper|pg||
nt|robinswr: you'd open 1nt 14-16|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|dinos1: Q better|pg||
nt|kit: I don't understand why he didn't play East for king-doubleton of spades -- seems like best way to make|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg||
nt|dinos1: now low is safe|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|sT|nt|3for3: or stiff ace, even|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Rumour has it that USA1 in the Venice Cup event will be penalised 16 IMPs due to late arrival of one of the players. To be confirmed. I'll let you know if I get more info|pg||
nt|jwit: Probably Larry, but I still like their judgement in staying out on the actual auction here.|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cT|pg||
nt|motbocaj: It will be interesting to see what effect this hand is having on the players at the table... oh for video|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s8|nt|phicro: Mais autant jouer 7@c que 6@s, ce sont les mêmes contrats quand le Roi de @h est en Ouest|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pg||
nt|kit: so this figures to be down 2, 7 IMPs for SA|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hJ|nt|juan lukas: ceci dit 7@c est mieux que 6@s ! meme pourcentage de reussite et ca rapporte moins quand ca marche |pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|phicro: oui|pg||
pc|d4|nt|juan lukas: ca rapporte plus pardon |pg||
nt|mgchat: ben oui|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|h9|pg||
nt|ritong: sauvé 1 imp en jouant a @s|pg||
nt|mgchat: 6@s est exactement le meme contrt que 7@c|pg||
pc|h6|nt|Walddk2: It's now safe to congratulate Norway on reaching the Bermuda Bowl final. 53 IMPs up with 3 to play. Well done to Helness, Helgemo, Brogeland, Sælensminde, Tundal and Grøtheim|pg||
pc|c3|nt|bjacobs: Margin of 12 imps coming up|pg||
mc|8|nt|joest: down to within one swing|pg||
nt|joest: still not sure why Garner disdained the spade finesse|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: the director ask E and W for signification of 3@d|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Germany by 2 now!  2 to play|pg||
nt|brolucius: As always, we will prefer not to reduce the drama by pre-announcing results on future boards from the Closed Room.  |pg||
nt|bjacobs: Who's on the committee today?|pg||
nt|joest: i'm not sure what relevance west's 3@D had.  Garner was always bidding a spade game|pg||
nt|brolucius: Exactly. It may no difference whatsoever.|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: ok next :)|pg||
pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4SA5HT63DKJ865CKT4,S93H2DQ9732CAQJ53,SQJT764HAQ95DAC82,SK82HKJ874DT4C976|sv|b|nt|lesrays: game on!!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|xenya: 10 more imps to the Chinese ladies -- and 6 boards to go|pg||
nt|steshome: I imagine the vugraph room is pretty raucous after that result|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|roghog: spec asks if the players know how close the score is - well, they don't know the exact score|pg||
mb|d|nt|xenya: 7 rather|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|lesrays: It would be tactless to ask who you are rooting for, Sarah!|pg||
nt|lesrays: 196-192|pg||
mb|2S|nt|lesrays: to USA|pg||
mb|p|nt|steshome: You know, I like them all.  The Chinese are very competitive and keen - for my money this is their best pair - |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
nt|roghog: normal to bid 4@s, just unlucky that it's doomed|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|nt|xenya: reasonable 4@S here -- with too many cards lying badly for declarer it seems|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|steshome: How many tricks now, though?  |pg||
nt|lesrays: what an awful lead -|pg||
nt|xenya: not the best of the leads however|pg||
nt|lesrays: why not @c - @h so dangerous. Then what do I know, Bene Cronier did same in other match....|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|c2|pc|d4|pg||
nt|xenya: makeable now|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|nt|lesrays: still have @s, @h and 2@c to lose|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|xenya: but some work to do|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
nt|lesrays: but not now.........|pg||
nt|xenya: club goes on @DK|pg||
nt|lesrays: bye bye club.....:)|pg||
nt|steshome: Not two clubs necessarily but if not two clubs then two hearts.  Does that mean three imps to the US?|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|s6|nt|lesrays: see, should have lead a @c:)|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|s9|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d9|pc|hQ|pc|sK|pc|d8|pg||
mc|8|nt|steshome: yes but she needed to play the spade first then duck the club|pg||
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qx|o27|st||md|1S9HKT87532DCAQ632,SQT6543HJ96DT85CT,SK7HDAKJ97632CKJ9,SAJ82HAQ4DQ4C8754|sv|o|nt|kit: so the tricky falsecard would be an error even if Lauria happened to know his partner had Kx of clubs, since it would never succeed.|pg||
nt|fann4: S had to have the @CA, surely, maybe not the J.|pg||
nt|3for3: here's the kind of board you want, sitting on a lead...|pg||
nt|avivs: it's time for the Italian 2@d opening (19-20 balanced)|pg||
nt|dinos1: imagine feelings of NS now|pg||
nt|Zmud99: nothing here...they dont speak to each other|pg||
nt|kit: this is a good result for SA in closed room|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I have Valium for sale. 6 mg, $21. You need some? :)|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: no comment at the table !!|pg||
nt|brolucius: After this apparent disaster, Fantoni-Nunes may think they must conjure up some action.|pg||
nt|motbocaj: and EW will be feeling quite perky|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: sry|pg||
nt|lc: Agreed -- good job not to bid it.|pg||
nt|lc: That's quite a rumor, Woland.  I don't ever recall such a penalty.|pg||
nt|lc: Roland.|pg||
nt|kit: I agree, but when there's smoke, they'll find a fire of some kind|pg||
nt|joest: haha|pg||
nt|brolucius: And fan it with their scorecard.|pg||
mb|1H|nt|juan lukas: 6@s moins bien que 7@c car en plus on peut echouer sur le V @s 4eme |pg||
nt|kit: yep -- I can't imagine a swing here|pg||
nt|swanson: USA1 needs another grand slam by the opponents off one to freshen their lead a bit.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Both BB semi-finals very close at this point. Norway +8 against Netherlands|pg||
nt|kit: Weak notrumps here, so Zia couldn't open 1NT|pg||
nt|kit: if he had, Rosenberg might have bid 3NT|pg||
mb|2S|nt|mgchat: absolument JL|pg||
nt|jwit: What do you do with the West hand over a 1H opener|pg||
nt|lc: Usually, the other pair/player on the team is available in case of such a lateness.|pg||
nt|lc: X|pg||
nt|jwit: I like DBL, bringing the spade suit into play|pg||
nt|kit: this result could be the end for SA|pg||
nt|brolucius: In Venice Cup, France played 6@D, Germany 4@H.|pg||
nt|joest: 4@h was not the optimum n-s spot in the closed room|pg||
mb|3C!|nt|phicro: Encore un ROi sec, pour gagner 5@s, cette fois|pg||
nt|kit: Now they will avoid the notrump trap|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Nor was 6@D, but ...|pg||
nt|joest: transfer|pg||
nt|kit: In closed room South opened 4@h.  Certainly could have worked on a better day, but this was not a better day|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Don't want to play diamonds from South!|pg||
mb|3S|nt|mgchat: De plus sur entame @h si on ne trouve pas le roi de @c ca chute|pg||
nt|lc: I think X is fairly clear.|pg||
nt|jwit: 2D is probably a sound raise to 2H|pg||
nt|joest: no kidding|pg||
nt|barnets: in the closed room south could have guessed to make 4h|pg||
nt|fann4: He nearly made it. After W had ruffed a @C he had to guess whether to play low @H or high.|pg||
nt|kit: good point|pg||
nt|barnets: he saw the 9 and knew west had the ace or the J sing|pg||
nt|kit: I don't think there is any danger of South mentioning the word "diamonds"|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 6@C is an interesting contract|pg||
nt|joest: will Weinstein make some attempt to limit his hand here by passing?|pg||
mb|4H|nt|kareno: Yes, and for me a tea break .. |pg||
nt|kit: and probably get to 4@C, making|pg||
nt|swanson: The 2@D call is  transfer, showing a good raise to 2@H.  A direct 2@H is weaker.|pg||
nt|lc: Yes on 2@D -- a very common expert treatment these days. |pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: le style americain est de jouer contre et surcontre de soutien tout-terrain|pg||
nt|fann4: On the surface, it looks like simply a case of whether N bids 5@D or shoots 6.|pg||
nt|joest: now we know|pg||
nt|kit: or passes 4@H|pg||
mb|6D|nt|swanson: 4@H is not such a bad contract for N-S.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Venice Cup: USA1 v China Global Times  63 - 50.3 (8 boards) ... Germany v France 71 - 84.3 (11)|pg||
mb|p|nt|juan lukas: apres le XX j'ai bien peur qu'elles ne se soient placés sur la piste de lancement pour atteindre la manche |pg||
nt|phicro: Elle devrait passer...|pg||
nt|lc: Hmmmm.  Zia will not be happy with partner's @S length.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Sad for E/W|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: and SA is back in the lead!|pg||
nt|swanson: I would have worked better here if Rosenberg had simply shown his spade suit - then Zia wouldn't have taken the push.|pg||
nt|lc: And, good job by Cope not to do any LAW violating by bidding 3@S (ugh!)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fann4: Unbelievable|pg||
nt|joest: big big pickup|pg||
nt|kit: yes -- this could put the match out of reach unless SA gets a couple of big swings quickly|pg||
pc|sA|nt|avivs: sorry... 2@d is 18019 balanced|pg||
pc|s9|nt|phicro: Elle a dit 4@s, la traîtresse|pg||
nt|ritong: on ne s ennuie pas une seconde dans cette partie|pg||
pc|s5|nt|3for3: puppet stayman....|pg||
nt|jwit: Good thing he read your book Larry lol|pg||
nt|lc: Some East players would have reasoned after 3@H P P :  "My partner has a singleton @H, so I can ruff my hearts with his spades...."   Bad thinking.|pg||
nt|Zmud99: you mean on 5@C x|pg||
nt|Walddk2: USA1 ladies bid and made 6@H on board 26 on a trump lead|pg||
nt|lc: Aha -- my prediction came true!|pg||
nt|lc: Would be nice to see the auction that prompted a trump lead.|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|fann4: The @DQx gives USA1 +14imps.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Although 6@D is lucky, it is doubtless a better contract than 4@H. |pg||
nt|bjacobs: Very true|pg||
nt|bjacobs: And I rather think SA had their share of slam luck against the Italians|pg||
nt|fann4: Had S have passed I imagine N would have settled for 5@D|pg||
nt|kit: you mean the 4@H call improved his hand?|pg||
nt|fann4: No, but he bid again. One normally has extra values to bid again at the 4 level in competitive auctions, I would have thought.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: This is where East searches through his hearts to see if he can find another diamond|pg||
nt|fann4: We can see why S did bid with his 9 count of course, but he could have had a bit more, that's why.|pg||
pc|hA|nt|kit: probably a puppet Stayman type of sequence|pg||
nt|3for3: an invention of one of our commentators, I believe...|pg||
nt|kit: Where East shows his major shape rather than asking about it -- shows 4 spades and fewer than 4 hearts if Puppet|pg||
nt|dinos1: and no X over 3@h by N|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ritong: les donnes s y pretent et le temperament des joueuses aussi|pg||
nt|juan lukas: ceci dit la manche est excellente independamment du R @s sec car les honneurs collent a merveille |pg||
nt|kit: I didn't exactly invent it, but I was the first to write it up for publication|pg||
nt|Walddk2: USA2 went down in the slam on a club lead. No play after that|pg||
nt|jwit: I was thinking the same thing.  Surely with a diamond splinter, one would find a black suit lead|pg||
pc|h6|pc|d2|pg||
nt|swanson: West is thinking of ducking only because he would like partner to be on lead for a diamond - but way to risky.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: USA2 seniors that is|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ritong: j aurais d ailleurs dit 4@s avec le jeu de nord en pensant a autre chose, comme dirait chemla|pg||
nt|kit: Note that in 3NT on high diamond lead East would have avoid ever playing the 4 in order to unblock the suit|pg||
pc|d4|nt|juan lukas: il suffit de ne perdre qu'une seule levée d'aout ; avec cette teneur c plutot probable |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Seniors: Brazil v Indonesia 77-64 (13) ... USA2 v USA1 40-64 (11)|pg||
pc|h3|nt|lc: Apparently S. AF. in 6@H in Closed Room on 26, as well?|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dQ|nt|phicro: En fait, elle a bien jugé, Sanborn : elle a joué pour une courte à @d en face, du coup son doubleton et ses points à @c jouaient à plein|pg||
nt|lc: I'm told.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: This was the great comment by Eddie Kantar when he had @CK10 doubleton against Belladonna's 7@C|pg||
mc|12|nt|swanson: And 5@C can't be defeated I don't believe (with all the major honors onside)|pg||
nt|brolucius: There was nothing at all wrong with opening 4@H on the South cards. Some says 1@H will work better, other days 4@H will do well. Same with most pre-emptive bids - they are a bit of ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: a gamble.|pg||
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qx|c27|st||md|1S9HKT87532DCAQ632,SQT6543HJ96DT85CT,SK7HDAKJ97632CKJ9,SAJ82HAQ4DQ4C8754|sv|o|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|steshome: Three more to the US... This is heart-stoppingly close.  Worse watching it than playing though.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|roghog: computer forgot to shuffle this one...|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c4|nt|xenya: NOT a good result for the Chinese in the OR here...|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|nt|steshome: All to Meyers now|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s7|nt|lesrays: these hands are cruel|pg||
pc|s8|nt|lesrays: French made 6@d|pg||
nt|steshome: Well judged by Meyers|pg||
nt|lesrays: and bid it -|pg||
nt|xenya: NS can make 6 in either minor -- but this will do for them too|pg||
pc|h2|nt|steshome: Ming Sun in the other room opened 4@H|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h6|nt|xenya: ah that explains it|pg||
nt|lesrays:  penalty of 11 to USA from last set now to be included, Sarah|pg||
nt|roghog: your guessing on this sort of hand, aren't you? it could have worked - but it didn't !!|pg||
pc|d2|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|h9|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|d3|nt|xenya: i really can't critisise S for opening 4@H in the other room|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2SJ863HT873D52CAQ8,SKT52HA54DT874CK7,SAHQJ62DKJ6CT9542,SQ974HK9DAQ93CJ63|sv|n|nt|vugraphs4: welcomback|pg||
nt|phicro: welcome all|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Frédéric Volcker at this table has been operating for 9 days on the trot now, 3 times a day. Virtually flawless. Well done Fred!|pg||
nt|avivs: CR is in 4@d by S|pg||
nt|kareno: Bravo!!|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: thx :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: The South African North, at the other table, must have been amazed when 3NT was made - with his hand opposite a passed hand.|pg||
nt|kit: And another slam -- but this one looks very flat|pg||
nt|motbocaj: And they do if they play a barometer pairs|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Would be unthinkable if football players did not know the score during play, would it not?|pg||
nt|kit: On last board it did, in fact, go 1NT-3NT, down 2|pg||
nt|kit: so the weak notrump showed a profit |pg||
nt|lc: The opening lead on 26 in the Closed Room will make the match close again, or turn it into a huge USA1 lead.|pg||
nt|mittmouse: from which side|pg||
nt|swanson: Larry, do you consider Zia's 3@H call a LAW violation?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good morning to Jeff Sapire from South Africa. It's 6:25 am there|pg||
nt|lc: I guess that's a way to send everyone away from watching this table  :)|pg||
nt|fann4: Hi all|pg||
nt|bjacobs: He looked through his spades, and when couldn't find another club, he checked his hearts and diamonds|pg||
nt|brolucius: Very good.|pg||
mb|p|nt|3for3: Great work...|pg||
nt|swanson: Hi|pg||
nt|lc: Zia's 3@H call debatable, I'd say.|pg||
mb|p|nt|joest: they open all 11s|pg||
nt|joest: except this one I guess|pg||
mb|1D|nt|fann4: NS in 4@D in the CR, going 1 down.|pg||
nt|3for3: featherweight 1@S here...|pg||
nt|fann4: E opened 2@S there.|pg||
nt|mittmouse: yes mr law|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: Vulnerable 4@S save here against 4@H.|pg||
nt|kit: it might be a good save if West doesn't get the defense right|pg||
nt|robinswr: not sure i would pass 1diamond|pg||
nt|lc: Usually, I don't go to 3 with only 8 trumps, but if opps have 8 trumps I do.  Zia probably thought they did.|pg||
nt|lc: @DA led against 6@H -- so it will make and 13 to S. AF>|pg||
nt|jwit: West has got to love his hand for hearts after the double of 2D|pg||
mb|1S|nt|Walddk2: It's all over in the CR. @DA was led against 6@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|3for3: The Italians love their spades...|pg||
nt|motbocaj: I guess in football they could mention to teammates if they scored at the other end|pg||
nt|kit: This is the sort of hand that Blackwood was invented for|pg||
nt|kit: Now everybody will come to life, 4@S will be reached|pg||
nt|robinswr: don't know why zia didin't jump to 4spades|pg||
nt|kit: buth East will save in 5@H I believe|pg||
nt|swanson: With the South hand you really expect E-W to take the push to 3@S.|pg||
mb|2S|nt|phicro: Une donne calme, enfin, pour la reprise|pg||
nt|kareno: Good position and lots of major cards - sensible semi-psyche.|pg||
nt|kit: South will probably quit with a relatively flat hand|pg||
nt|brolucius: If any slam deal is an 'obvious flat board', this is it.|pg||
nt|lc: So, USA lead will be back down to only 21.|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: 4@H could go down after a spade lead, then three round of clubs - but that is quite unlikely.|pg||
nt|kit: SA have a good shot at a part-score pickup here|pg||
nt|joest: not sure why Garner didn't make a passed hand double of 1@s|pg||
nt|joest: points in their suits I guess|pg||
mb|p|nt|lc: So, back at the ranch here -- what do we have on  28?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Very risky, surely?|pg||
nt|kit: yes, it would seem like a textbook example of a passed-hand takeout double|pg||
nt|joest: will he take the risk now?|pg||
nt|kit: now more dangerous, for sure|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: And that will end it.|pg||
nt|kit: I don't think 3@S will quite handle|pg||
nt|kareno: Trump leads will get at this contract.|pg||
nt|jwit: Nice raise by West|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|kit: Even though South will innocently start a high heart, and maybe another one|pg||
nt|joest: that's where I'm coming from|pg||
nt|joest: of course after that last result there is a tendency to be safe|pg||
nt|kit: Although they lost the board in the other room when their teammates sold out to 2@H|pg||
pc|h9|nt|dinos1: will show 25+ NT?|pg||
nt|kit: East has probably shown some very strong balanced hand|pg||
nt|Walddk2: It's a Kokish auction|pg||
nt|kit: West will drive to slam of course -- the danger is he might think he has enough for a grand|pg||
nt|phicro: lol|pg||
nt|brolucius: The Kokish 2@H shows hearts or strong balanced, and 2@S enquires which.|pg||
nt|motbocaj: The gods will not forgive 6@H or 6@D|pg||
nt|dinos1: 25+11 = 36))|pg||
nt|kit: Zia had no idea whose hand it was, so didn't double|pg||
nt|kit: Maybe Rosenberg should have doubled|pg||
nt|swanson: I would have expected a reopening 2@S call rather than the double.|pg||
nt|robinswr: i wold have just bid 4spades|pg||
nt|brolucius: In the Closed Room it was another bad board for the weak 1NT. The spade fit was lost.|pg||
pc|hT|nt|swanson: 6 losers are a lot to up and bid 4@S.|pg||
nt|kit: Only if you considering passing on the North hand "safe" -- I think it is risky.|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|kareno: Well, he can uppercut dummy and score a small trump if declarer persists in ruffing hearts.|pg||
nt|kit: declarer doesn't appear to have the entries to ruff 2 hearts, get back, draw trump, and still have control|pg||
nt|kit: oh it will be NT -- level is the question|pg||
pc|s2|nt|motbocaj: Blackwood?|pg||
nt|lc: Presumably 2@H was a sign-off, could have been a 0-count.  So, WEst's raise a bit undiscipline -- but he loved his @Ds.|pg||
pc|sA|nt|kit: another bullet dodged|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Who needs Blackwood. Even I would be able to make 12 tricks on a very good day|pg||
nt|dinos1: 24-25|pg||
nt|jwit: Yes, Zia's double of 2D did not work well here|pg||
nt|swanson: This contract is going to make without any problem - good spade spots.|pg||
pc|s4|nt|brolucius: Whichever team happens to lose by a handful of IMPs, they will have nightmares about the heart 6@H/7@H with two top diamond losers. |pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|lc: Zia doubled on the sound of the auction.  He knew E-W were on marginal values.|pg||
pc|cT|nt|lc: Could the Double defelect declarer, though?|pg||
pc|c3|nt|mgchat: dans le match des italiens contre Sud Afrique, les italiens sont menés 25 a 81|pg||
nt|mittmouse: nice to know when zia dbls he doesnt have any trump tricks|pg||
nt|lc: WE see it can make -- but it isn't fun to play these doubled.|pg||
pc|c8|nt|jwit: Yes, the only problem with the double, is, if the opponents buy the contract, you want a club lead rather than a diamond|pg||
nt|swanson: Against that he knows his @DK is worthless and trumps are favorable for E-W.|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|3for3: karen is right, can only ruff one heart in dummy|pg||
pc|d7|nt|lc: Declarer, by risking the @H finesse is chancing a big -500.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Netherlands pulled 10 back, Norway by 54 now|pg||
nt|lc: Without being doubled, declarer would just shrug and play @H normally and not worry about -100 or -200.|pg||
nt|lc: Little does he know that @H are 3-2 onside.|pg||
pc|d6|nt|robinswr: partner doesn't need much to make 4spades|pg||
nt|robinswr: and how would he know what stray cards are good|pg||
pc|d3|nt|swanson: Maybe a reopening 3@S is the right call.|pg||
nt|robinswr: i think 3spades is preemptive|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|kit: But the defense has to be wary of a complet crossruff|pg||
pc|s5|pc|c5|nt|jwit: Moment of truth|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|kit: Going after the uppercout right away|pg||
nt|lc: Ooops - I have colors wrong.  100 or 300.|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|phicro: Moi qui parle de donne calme... Un spectateur me fait savoir que l'Afrique du Sud, opposée à l'Italie, a déclaré et fait 6@d avec ces deux jeux...|pg||
nt|phicro: En Open, bien sûr|pg||
nt|kit: but declarer will pitch losing club|pg||
nt|kit: But now the defenders know what they are up against|pg||
nt|joest: let me rephrase: a desire to avoid going for a  |pg||
pc|c6|nt|avivs: south must not cover the 8(9) to beat it|pg||
nt|kareno: south's spots will hold up.|pg||
nt|kit: I imagine declarer will play 9 of spades, hoping for a cover and hoping North has 7 of spades|pg||
nt|kareno: Why not?|pg||
nt|kareno: He can cover the spade and still beat it.|pg||
nt|kit: he will cover the spade if declarer plays the 9 -- South is looking at his 7 and dummy's 6|pg||
nt|ritong: and when declarer could hold @h Q, he must cover|pg||
nt|mittmouse: wow|pg||
nt|lc: So, not quite as uncomfortable as I was making it sound :)|pg||
nt|mittmouse: cope knows zia|pg||
nt|swanson: Because 4@H is such an agressive contract, there is probably little difference between -100 and -300.  Declarer needs to take the best play for his contract.|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg||
nt|Zmud99: Merci au spectateur :)|pg||
nt|mgchat: la dame de @h seconde permet de defausser les @c perdants|pg||
pc|cA|nt|lc: Good point, John.|pg||
nt|granguru: No cacho que comparacion puede hacerse...Safo era una lesbiana que lecantaba al amor y Homero ensalso a Ulises y otros guerreros en la Illiada y la Odisea |pg||
nt|mittmouse: im surprised zia didnt play the 9 of hearts|pg||
nt|lc: On the first @H, you mean.|pg||
nt|mittmouse: y|pg||
nt|lc: That is his kind of play, isn't it.|pg||
nt|lc: I wonder what Rosenberg is thinking of here.  (Other than how to write "minus 590").|pg||
pc|sT|pc|c4|nt|swanson: The USA1 women god to defend 3@D doubled here.  West took the initial transfer and South (after doubling 2@D) came again with 3@D.|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|d4|nt|fann4: Yes fine|pg||
nt|swanson: got|pg||
nt|lc: So, South bid her same hand twice, it sounds.|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg||
nt|fann4: EW in 2@H in the CR|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sK|nt|bjacobs: Back to 19 imps|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
mc|10|nt|3for3: 5 for RSA|pg||
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qx|c28|st||md|2SJ863HT873D52CAQ8,SKT52HA54DT874CK7,SAHQJ62DKJ6CT9542,SQ974HK9DAQ93CJ63|sv|n|nt|steshome: What penalty is that G?  I have missed all the fun - been sitting on a plane|pg||
nt|lesrays: I never think it pays to do that with a good 2nd suit, I1H for me every time|pg||
nt|lesrays: 1@h|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|lesrays: did you not say they had arrived late for 5th set?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|steshome: Not me.  |pg||
mb|p|nt|roghog: 4@s plays well, as the minors sit nicely - but you can't bid it|pg||
mb|p|nt|lesrays: sorry, someone elses message ran into your, Sarah - Roaldo? Anyway, Steve tells me it has just come up on his screen from Roland|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|nt|steshome: Turning up late is a pretty dopey way to lose imps.  Presumably something unavoidable happened?|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|s7|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|nt|steshome: No swing on this set.  |pg||
nt|Walddk7: The penalty USA1 sustained in the previous set is included on the scoreboard|pg||
nt|steshome: hand, I mean.|pg||
nt|steshome: Four boards to play after this one and 17 imps to recover - anything's possible|pg||
nt|xenya: of course |pg||
nt|lesrays: Steve going to do last 4 boards...|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cA|nt|steshome: Hello Steve |pg||
pc|d4|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3S52HAK72D873C9632,SJ93HJ6DAKTCAKT87,SA87H983DJ9652CQJ,SKQT64HQT54DQ4C54|sv|b|nt|ritong: 110 NS a une bonne tête|pg||
nt|juan lukas: oui surtout que 2@s en EO a aussi une bonne tete :)|pg||
nt|kareno: So four more IMPs to SA|pg||
nt|3for3: 4 sry|pg||
nt|3for3: 5 on the set :)|pg||
nt|kareno: 5.. oh Vulnerable.. quite right|pg||
nt|kareno: lol|pg||
nt|motbocaj: Such a close match you'd like to slip a club through|pg||
nt|kit: And yet another flattish-looking board.  Italy needs something good to happen on the last 3 boards|pg||
nt|kit: and into the slam zone again|pg||
nt|robinswr: the contract was undoulbed so michael didn't overtake on the rare case that zia did not have the queen of clubs|pg||
nt|swanson: N-S 'saved' at 5@S at the other table so maybe Zia got it right.|pg||
nt|lc: So, a big swing to S. AF.|pg||
nt|lc: I'd open the North hand, but Z-R are a bit sounder, I think.|pg||
nt|lc: AQ-A and a 5-card suit.|pg||
nt|jwit: I wouldn't open in 1st seat|pg||
nt|lc: Just a matter of style.  No right or wrong, of course.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Passed hand take-out doubles of a two-suit auction are obviously more tempting when you hold the spades. Reese used to hate them otherwise. |pg||
mb|p|nt|jwit: But look at the 5 card suit|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: et 3@c aussi|pg||
nt|phicro: Pas facile de rentrer dans les enchères en Ouest sur l'ouverture d'1SA|pg||
nt|kareno: I'm looking at this board.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: trasnational open team after 4 rounds at http://www.bridge.la/torneos/2007/mundial/r_trasnacional.html|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: China hammering England in this set (72 IMPs ahead now) and will advance to the  semi-finals in the Venice Cup|pg||
nt|lc: Well, it is headed by the jack.  Not the eight  :)|pg||
nt|swanson: Toss-up for me.   WOuld really like some better club spots.|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|brolucius: More exciting, perhaps, if there is no pre-announcement of future boards from the Closed Room.|pg||
nt|swanson: Looking at both hands, one would want to be in 7@H from the East side.|pg||
mb|2C|nt|ritong: elles vont payer le non-transfert, c est drole|pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: Là, elle a une chance|pg||
nt|phicro: Qu'elle n'aurait pas eu avec le Texas|pg||
nt|kareno: Looks like it'll be 1NT by north.|pg||
nt|kit: I wonder if it is right to show the club suit with this 7-card diamond suit|pg||
nt|swanson: Of course, all grands make here - and I am not betting on Eber-Bosenberg not bidding this one.|pg||
nt|robinswr: but is 3dia forcing?|pg||
nt|kit: perhaps not -- so maybe he should bid 2@S|pg||
nt|kit: anyway, West has quite a problem here -- how does he show his extra strength sensibly?|pg||
mb|2D|nt|phicro: Courageux, et efficace|pg||
nt|ritong: encore une latence|pg||
nt|ritong: si quelqu un a un probleme, c est sud|pg||
nt|kit: he didn't show it at all -- now East has to bid 4@D to get things going again|pg||
nt|lc: 1N=@S|pg||
nt|jwit: Interesting problem for Michael.  He knows partner has a stiff spade, but to balance now is fraught with some danger|pg||
nt|lc: I'll say!|pg||
nt|lc: He has only 1 suit in which to compete.|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: this one looks pretty flat|pg||
mb|3H!|nt|3for3: or south|pg||
nt|kit: West unable to act sensibly over the opening bid|pg||
nt|swanson: If 3@D is not forcing one is allowing overcalls to drastically affect one's constructive bidding.|pg||
nt|kit: which I think he should -- he doesn't exactly have a classic hand for notrump|pg||
nt|kit: well John, you agree that 2@H in comp can be a lot lighter than a standard GF 2/1?|pg||
nt|jwit: But partner rates to have some support|pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: Peut-être parce que Sud réfléchit à surenchérir à 3@d|pg||
nt|phicro: eh non|pg||
nt|mgchat: double partielle|pg||
nt|ritong: en effet|pg||
nt|kit: Apparently this pair bypasses 4-card spade suit on balanced hand rebid|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: 1NT= maybe 4@s|pg||
nt|3for3: Sensibly|pg||
nt|avivs: probably playing Walsh|pg||
nt|kit: West had very ugly lead problem|pg||
nt|fann4: Walsh automatic here.|pg||
nt|kit: extremely unattractive diamond holding to lead from|pg||
nt|kit: maybe queen of hearts is best -- who knows|pg||
nt|3for3: even more unattractive when partner holds merely the 83@D|pg||
nt|kit: if declarer leads a spade to the 9, which he might well, he will be off to a good start|pg||
nt|kareno: In any event this helps declarer to three diamond tricks whichever way he goes.  Spade ten guess is important.|pg||
nt|lc: Very brave!|pg||
nt|mittmouse: nice bid|pg||
nt|kit: shows 5 spades, 4 hearts|pg||
mb|4S|nt|Walddk2: Maybe I can reveal that there is still scope for swings on boards 30-32. I will say no more|pg||
nt|dinos1: this is 11th trick|pg||
nt|motbocaj: Whoever wins we are seeing a fantastic finish|pg||
nt|robinswr: what do you bid over 1spade holding xxx/AKQxx/xxx/Jx>|pg||
nt|lc: On a bad day, partner is 1=5=5=2.|pg||
nt|swanson: 1NT shows spades, but can East pass?|pg||
nt|jwit: Certainly possible|pg||
nt|lc: I wonder if the raise to 2@S promised 4.  If so, then balancing has more appeal.|pg||
nt|fann4: 3@H is Smolen, showing 4@h and 5@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: Now West will just drive to 6@D I think|pg||
nt|mittmouse: no he cant pass|pg||
nt|jwit: I would think it would probably promise 4, otherwise he might very well pass 1NT|pg||
nt|lc: 1NT = 4+@S, Forcing, unlimited|pg||
nt|jwit: Oh I see|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: seems right to play low from dummy -- can always finesse 9 later|pg||
nt|kit: but he was right |pg||
nt|swanson: I go for lighter, just not a lot lighter.|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: But now he is in dummy.. I imagine a club will be floated here.|pg||
nt|dinos1: @s now?|pg||
nt|motbocaj: a low spade I would say|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|kit: now he will probably lead 10 of clubs|pg||
nt|mittmouse: so i dont think 2s promised 4|pg||
pc|c4|nt|kareno: Great club spots.|pg||
nt|kit: and the 7 of clubs becomes a powerful card|pg||
nt|avivs: for spectators: Walsh is a style of bidding when opener rebid 1NT with all balanced hands with or without a biddable 4 card major so when he does rebid 1@h/1@s he promises an ...|pg||
nt|avivs: unbalanced hand|pg||
nt|kit: so he will have 3 diamonds, 2 clubs, and 1 heart for starters -- will he find a 7th trick?|pg||
nt|3for3: usually 5@C or 4441 perhaps|pg||
nt|kareno: It's all about the ten of spades I think, Kit.  |pg||
nt|kit: Defense can take 1 diamond, 2 clubs, 2 spade and 1 heart -- that is also 6 tricks|pg||
nt|kareno: The defense can't really attack hearts.|pg||
nt|kareno: If they do, declarer gets an extra trick|pg||
nt|kit: defense doesn't need to -- West has safe diamond play to set up a trick and force a discard from South|pg||
nt|jwit: Ok, then he would probably bid 2 of a minor with only 3 spades|pg||
pc|c2|nt|kit: maybe an overtgrick for SA, since North won't know what he is up against|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is the sort of match where people remember for ever the 'last mistake'.|pg||
nt|dinos1: now @d  - back to 10|pg||
nt|Walddk2: South Africa could gain an IMP here, and every IMP could ve worth gold ... or perhaps silver/bronze|pg||
nt|kit: Anyway they got to a reasonable spot|pg||
pc|s9|nt|robinswr: if this was the first board, they might have bid the grand|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|nt|kit: Now West will duck club, and declarer will be stuck on board|pg||
nt|kareno: Spade or club now?|pg||
nt|kit: he will certainly pla a club|pg||
nt|kareno: But south can imagine this is coming and perhaps play spades himself.|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|s3|nt|jwit: anyway, he struck gold in dummy|pg||
pc|sA|nt|phicro: Elle assure son contrat en mettant le Valet|pg||
nt|fann4: SP @S5 then @S2|pg||
pc|s6|nt|kit: south doesn't know which way to play spades anyway -- what is wrong with from the dummy?|pg||
nt|kareno: So now - two rounds of diamonds?|pg||
nt|kit: I think he will try jack of spades|pg||
nt|kit: not a success, but that looks logical to me from what he can see|pg||
nt|kareno: It's amazing how these little hands can be so tough to play/defend.  With the resources so evenly divided..|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|phicro: Sauf @s 4-1 impossibles après l'entame|pg||
nt|motbocaj: A @D was right in case clubs didn't break|pg||
nt|brolucius: And it great for all of us to have the 'I was there' feeling, thanks to BBO.|pg||
nt|joest: looks like Weinstein's 5=2 is s/p for hearts|pg||
pc|h3|nt|kit: East likely to have 4 spades if anybody does, so jack is most effective|pg||
pc|h4|nt|kit: yes, but a heart shift doesn't look attractive -- Still, South could have AKJ|pg||
pc|hK|nt|fann4: 1NT was played by N in the CR, on a @H lead, and was very well played by N.|pg||
nt|lc: Roland -- any more word on the 16-IMP penalty to the USA women?|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|hA|nt|kit: Now the defense prevails -- West sets up his diamond winner, and they have time to set up a heart trick|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Almost 5,000 spectators at this table now. No, it's not even close to our record. But we will get there eventually|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Not yet|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|nt|lc: My good parnters have 5 clubs for me -- not just @CQ10xx.  :)|pg||
nt|jwit: flol|pg||
nt|fann4: N opened 1@C in the CR|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
mc|10|nt|ritong: et le declarant table dans un bruit mat|pg||
nt|juan lukas: bien joué |pg||
nt|phicro: Remarquez que nous nus congratulons, mais il y avait 4@s sur table en EO|pg||
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qx|c29|st||md|3S52HAK72D873C9632,SJ93HJ6DAKTCAKT87,SA87H983DJ9652CQJ,SKQT64HQT54DQ4C54|sv|b|nt|roghog: hard earned IMP|pg||
nt|steshome: I'll admit to being a little sleepy.  |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|lesrays: looks an easy game for E/W|pg||
mb|2H|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|steshome: Yes - they're likely to play in spades though - which means a coupld of imps away|pg||
mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hJ|nt|lesrays: hard to find a way to go off|pg||
nt|steshome: EW in the open room got to NT by opening a strong NT on the West hand|pg||
nt|steshome: and east not transferring and bidding hearts but going through stayman and bidding hearts.|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4S5HAKT98DKQ74CK96,SKQ98HQ43DATCAJT8,S4HJ752D98652C742,SAJT7632H6DJ3CQ53|sv|o|nt|ritong: le mieux est l ennemi du bien:)|pg||
nt|mgchat: 4@s sur entame @d ne seraient pas faciles a jouer|pg||
nt|juan lukas: un spectateur que je remercie me dit d'ailleurs que les italiens ont appelé 4@s et ont gagné le contrat|pg||
nt|Walddk2: UNless you ask all 10,000 users to come to this table|pg||
nt|amadala: hi!|pg||
nt|ritong: big board now|pg||
nt|vincenzo: il board decisivo|pg||
nt|amadala: forza!!|pg||
nt|kit: Looks like a good result for italy at first glance|pg||
nt|amadala: bb, vc and sb running scores at http://www.bridge.la/torneos/2007/mundial/running.html|pg||
nt|robinswr: 1dia - 3clubs double?|pg||
nt|lc: Opening 1@C will avoid that scary balancing act.|pg||
nt|lc: So, the age old question here for East.  1@D or 1@C?|pg||
nt|kit: SA took a good save, but saves don't pick up many IMPs|pg||
nt|fann4: 5@Dx can go for 800. @S to the A, @H switch, @DA won, and another @H, ruffed then @CQ.|pg||
mb|3S|nt|phicro: Une donne à verser au dossier de ceux qui veulent intervenir par Contre pour indiquer une mineure longue et une majeure courte|pg||
nt|kit: I don't think Zia bids 3@C on this sort of hand|pg||
nt|mittmouse: im not sure i dont remember them saying who|pg||
mb|d|nt|ritong: ahum|pg||
nt|ritong: you may have some troubles operator|pg||
nt|juan lukas: un petit decalage probable chez notre operateur |pg||
nt|lc: I'm a 1@D guy, myself -- but not all agree.|pg||
nt|jwit: I would open 1D, though not wild about it|pg||
nt|lc: Problem with 1@D is that when you rebid 2@C, partner corrects to 2@D with 2-2 and you are in 4-2 fits.|pg||
nt|kit: If E-W should happen to get to slam, however ....|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Oh well - go for the slam then|pg||
mb|4S|nt|ritong: kewl|pg||
nt|kit: N-s will playh in spades, not hearts, and that may play better|pg||
nt|ritong: heh|pg||
nt|swanson: If one opens 1@C it must be with the plan to rebid 1NT.|pg||
nt|jwit: I would open 1C, if I knew partner would bid 1H, then I could bid 1NT|pg||
nt|lc: Hmmm.  X by Zia?  Not 1NT?|pg||
mb|p|nt|mgchat: tu crois ? (lol)|pg||
nt|ritong: go R!|pg||
nt|amadala: :)|pg||
nt|fulldire: vai|pg||
nt|kit: Rosenberg must think there are a few extra aces and kings in the deck|pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: Je ne suis pas très partisan des barrages, mais j'avoue qu'une intervention à 4@h aurait donné sans doute un meilleur résultat|pg||
nt|kit: the overcall will probably end the auction|pg||
nt|brolucius: At the other table North showed a stronger raise, with a 2@C cue bid. On the face of it, 2@S is an underbid.  |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Please stop sending me private chat messages. My screen is all cluttered|pg||
nt|kit: North will compete some more, I'm sure|pg||
nt|fann4: 1@C followed by 1NT looks reasonable.|pg||
nt|lc: If you X with Zia, how do you later show that you have 16 balanced?|pg||
nt|brolucius: How do the players eventually get to know the result of the match? Does the BBO VG operator tell them, or do they wait for a traditional comparison with their teammates?|pg||
mb|p|nt|juan lukas: aïe , 4@h = dans l'autre salle ne me plait guere ..... |pg||
nt|phicro: Elles vont trouver la défense à 5@d, et le problème sera de ne pas surenchérir à 5@h...|pg||
nt|ritong: arrhump|pg||
nt|juan lukas: outre le fait que 5@d est une bonne defense , il est difficile de ne pas surencherir avec 11 @h maitres ds la ligne |pg||
nt|ritong: operator?|pg||
nt|kareno: Looks like it |pg||
nt|newmoon: sorry   eber/bosie overbid this!   they didn't see 1NT bid|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 6,000+ now|pg||
nt|mugsmate: 2500 kibitzers!|pg||
nt|motbocaj: Nunes may be thinking penalties |pg||
nt|dinos1: 2@s good bid - 3-fit, soft values, only void is good|pg||
nt|kit: Now will Eber pass or try to get to a major?|pg||
nt|kit: My guess is he will bid 2@H, not successfully|pg||
nt|robinswr: since there is no game, eber should pass 2diamonds|pg||
nt|mittmouse: dbl|pg||
nt|jwit: Over 1S by partner, not so clear over 1H|pg||
nt|kit: but none of this happens|pg||
pc|hA|nt|kit: West might try 3@C -- he can deduce from his partner's failure to raise hearts that his partner has at least 4 clubs|pg||
nt|dinos1: 3@s now?|pg||
nt|swanson: Could Rosenberg dare bid 3@C and then double the opponents if they bid again?|pg||
nt|jwit: I mean the other way around|pg||
nt|mittmouse: 16plus with 3s|pg||
nt|joest: this looks to be four imps to South Africa|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 5?|pg||
pc|h3|nt|kareno: And it is only a question of a possible overtrick.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The slam hand on 29 was played in 6@H in the other room. 13 tricks, 2 IMPs to USA1|pg||
nt|kit: If East bids 3@D, North may greet that with a double -- I think he should|pg||
nt|swanson: Maybe 2NT by East.|pg||
nt|kit: 5 -- they will make 480|pg||
pc|h7|nt|kit: I'm not so convinced that 4@S might not make|pg||
nt|dinos1: y - 3@h|pg||
nt|motbocaj: and a void with only 3 trumps is usually overvalued, the hearts are good though|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@C directly by East would show a stronger hand. This is an example of the Good-Bad 2NT. You use it to compete on shape when you do not hold many points.|pg||
nt|jwit: Surely Holman doesn't have another bid|pg||
nt|swanson: Holman thinks his minor suit fit is a bit better than it is.|pg||
nt|joest: yes|pg||
nt|joest: 5|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 14 imps|pg||
pc|dK|nt|dinos1: time to X?|pg||
nt|swanson: Partner did bid 2@C freely.|pg||
pc|dA|nt|avivs: S.A would like all boards to be like this one|pg||
nt|kit: East hasn't yet shown this long diamonds -- he just responded to negative double|pg||
nt|lc: Any comments from you guys on why not 1NT overcall from South?|pg||
nt|mittmouse: 3nt by s on a d lead|pg||
nt|lc: Did he think it too dangerous with flat 16?|pg||
nt|jwit: I would have overcalled 1NT, but double not totally unreasonable with so many cards in the majors|pg||
nt|swanson: I don't have an answer to why not 1NT.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I now hear that the penalty imposed on USA1 ladies is 11 IMPs. I will keep the name to myself for the time being; I am sure you will find out yourself eventually|pg||
nt|mittmouse: y im surprised he didnt ocall int|pg||
nt|swanson: I would consider it even over a 1@C opening bid.|pg||
nt|lc: Their card says 15+-18  SOUND.|pg||
nt|swanson: And in the VC match the China South did overcall 1NT over an opening 1@C.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The penalty was imposed after one of the US players arrived late|pg||
pc|d2|nt|juan lukas: belle enchere de 4@c qui facilite la demande de 5@d |pg||
nt|phicro: Il faut quand même les contrer de temps en temps, non ?|pg||
nt|kit: uh oh|pg||
nt|kit: Rosenberg afraid of the adverse swing -- but I think doubling has to be percentage on his hand -- sounds like opponents in trouble|pg||
nt|swanson: Showing an utter lack of confidence in partner's overcall by Rosenberg - probably justified from previous experience.|pg||
nt|robinswr: i guess 2clubs can be bid on nothing|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|kit: Nunes will have something to say about this|pg||
pc|sK|nt|dinos1: yess|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, a clever sequence by Fantoni. Show the spade support and then the heart side suit. |pg||
nt|motbocaj: I'm sure 4@S can fail double dummy on a club lead|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ritong: sans doute, mais avec quoi?|pg||
pc|s2|nt|kit: we know it can be on nothing -- but even that is probably enough to defeat 3@D|pg||
nt|lc: WE can see that with @DA and @SK right, that this will be easy.|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|mariner1: this is 5 or 9 imps|pg||
nt|kit: down 1 off the top -- maybe down 2|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: the second downtrick weights some|pg||
pc|s8|nt|ritong: a part un beau tempérament|pg||
nt|kit: I think he will get out for down 1 okay|pg||
nt|Walddk2: They can afford the 5 IMPs|pg||
nt|swanson: All roads seem to lead to a 2@S contract by N-S on these cards, but I would be asking partner after the session why he didn't bid 1NT as South.|pg||
pc|h5|nt|kit: odd misguess it seems|pg||
nt|motbocaj: they are not going to get rich here, 2 down looks like all|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|phicro: Je ne parierai pas, mais je pense que Sylvie a cru que son passe était forcing|pg||
nt|motbocaj: sorry 1 down|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Why 2, Tom?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: ok|pg||
nt|amadala: 5 or 9 for italy|pg||
nt|motbocaj: gave him 3 @C tricks (duh)|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|kit: and down 1 puts SA ahead by a fraction of an IMP!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: right 0.7|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|kit: Versace knows a trump back is futile|pg||
nt|kit: unless his partner holds the ace of diamonds -- which is possible|pg||
nt|3for3: in bed already :)|pg||
nt|ritong: .7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|nt|3for3: oops...private :)|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|kit: so for that reason I think he will play a trump back|pg||
nt|mariner1: wow he can duck|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c9|nt|Walddk2: Segment 2 in the seniors' match between Brazil and Indonesia is over. Brazil +21|pg||
nt|robinswr: 2clubs was just a lite overcall|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|pg||
mc|12|nt|brolucius: I am getting 50-50 answers to my question, so I have not discovered the answer.|pg||
nt|joest: is there a big swing hand left in the last two boards?|pg||
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qx|c30|st||md|4S5HAKT98DKQ74CK96,SKQ98HQ43DATCAJT8,S4HJ752D98652C742,SAJT7632H6DJ3CQ53|sv|o|nt|lesrays: well an action board that China needs|pg||
nt|xenya: a real chance for the Chinese here|pg||
mb|2S!|nt|roghog: a slam on a finesse - the bane of bridge !!|pg||
mb|d|mb|4S|nt|steshome: In the other semi final, Germany are 9 up against France with two boards to play.  |pg||
nt|xenya: well it's a poor slam of course but in the circumstances...|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|steshome: What is Wang doing here?|pg||
nt|lesrays: finesse through the doubler - pretty good|pg||
nt|roghog: Wang trying to get doubled?|pg||
mb|d|nt|steshome: Trying to work out if they have a heart fit? |pg||
mb|p|nt|lesrays: the French ladies doubled 4@S for 2 overtricks|pg||
mb|4N!|mb|p|nt|steshome: Well they shouldn't have done really - think Wang is trying to get doubled too|pg||
mb|5D|nt|steshome: Oh, interesting stuff|pg||
nt|roghog: hmmm - expensive|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lesrays: not obvious to double 5@D|pg||
nt|steshome: Well Wang has generated her swing|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h6|nt|lesrays: but how many will it go down?|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|Walddk7: 4 on best defence|pg||
nt|xenya: careful defence should beat it by quite a few|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|nt|roghog: will Liu find Q@c when in with her A?|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s9|pc|d8|pc|s7|pg||
pc|h5|pc|s2|pc|hA|nt|steshome: I am sure that she will|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|h8|nt|xenya: yes, she must do that to get 800|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|s6|pg||
mc|9|nt|lesrays: well done|pg||
nt|steshome: Well done|pg||
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qx|o31|st||md|1ST76HJ932DKQ8432C,SK854HA64D5CAKJT6,SAQJ32HK85DCQ9532,S9HQT7DAJT976C874|sv|n|nt|phicro: Si jamais vous vouliez faire un jeu d'élimination, chère amie déclarante, nous nous en sommes chargés|pg||
nt|kareno: Looks like 3NT n/s|pg||
nt|avivs: Italy got to 3NT by N in CR|pg||
nt|avivs: sorry... by S|pg||
nt|brolucius: Minus 100 is OK for SA at this table. The loss arose at the other table, really. |pg||
nt|paulhac: Less than 1 imp|pg||
nt|kit: SA made a good stop on this hand -- could easily get too high with N-S cards|pg||
nt|motbocaj: But even at the other table 4 of a major was surely reasonable|pg||
nt|robinswr: 500 ?|pg||
nt|fann4: Some potential here|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|ritong: encore une main de chelem|pg||
nt|kit: 3NT seems pretty routine to reach -- and will make on sheer power|pg||
nt|brolucius: After all the action there has been, the players will hardly guess that it is a 1-IMP game.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Allowing 3@S to make would have put the Italians in the lead.|pg||
nt|swanson: The West hand is uncomfortable to bid after a 1@C opening and 1@S response, so most would open 1NT.|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ritong: nous sommes gâtés|pg||
nt|mgchat: belle donne ou il faut eviter 6@s au profit de 6@c rigoureusement sur table|pg||
nt|phicro: Ou 6SA|pg||
nt|lc: Overall, this has been quite a well-played and well-judged set of 16 boards at "our" table.  As opposed to some of the other results we've been hearing about.|pg||
nt|kit: 14 IMPs behind, and it looks like SA has a decent result here|pg||
nt|joest: i hope this isn't the moment for the weak 3@d bid|pg||
mb|d|nt|brolucius: A fine match - whatever happens at the end. |pg||
nt|kit: if Weinstein doesn't bid diamonds, Cope will|pg||
nt|barnets: the 6D could decide the match|pg||
mb|3D!|an|!d+!s|nt|ritong: sylvie pourrait dire 4@c|pg||
nt|jwit: Looks like 3NT on this one, if they can get to it after the overcall and raise|pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: Et vopilà qui est bien parti pour les @c|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1NT  12-14|pg||
nt|kit: but if N-S stop at 2@S, they might make the overtrick and win 1 imp|pg||
nt|motbocaj: 12 opposite 11 is still a chance in 3NT -- maybe they think the situation is desperate enough|pg||
nt|motbocaj: Nope|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Well, Fantoni may have that 7@H to consider. Little does he know|pg||
nt|brolucius: There have been at least three boards in this set where the range for an opening 1NT has affected the swing.|pg||
nt|lc: Yes -- a "normal" 3NT, but each N-S player will be uncomfortable with the @S holding.|pg||
nt|kit: That will keep E-W out of trouble|pg||
nt|brolucius: North has a decent hand for his 1@S but a horrible fit for diamonds. Difficult to evaluate.|pg||
nt|joest: i can't see bidding a game|pg||
nt|fann4: Me neither - he is void in @D!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 3@D fit showing?|pg||
nt|joest: where are the tricks coming from?|pg||
nt|brolucius: He has too many clubs to ruff.|pg||
nt|kit: Although unless East finds a trump lead, unlikely, I think Garner can crossruff for 9 tricks|pg||
nt|joest: although typically fit showing jumps deliver four trumps|pg||
mb|3H|nt|mgchat: etes vous opposés a l'ouverture d'1@c avec ce genre de main ?|pg||
nt|kit: it wouldn't occur to me to raise on that 4-3-3-3 hand|pg||
nt|kit: if you are willing to reverse with those values it is fine, but most aren't|pg||
nt|swanson: This looks like a reopening double to me.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: We now have further details re the penalty imposed on US ladies. The player in question arrived 16 minutes late. If you go to one of the rooms where the ladies are playing, you ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: should deduct 11 IMPs from the USA1 score|pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: Je propose comme suite : 4@h - 5@d - 6@c|pg||
nt|kit: So the club fit gets lost in the shuffle|pg||
mb|3S|nt|ritong: limpide|pg||
nt|robinswr: who wants to play in clubs?|pg||
nt|kit: Zia did well to balance -- as usual, it is wrong to pass out 1NT when you have some shape|pg||
mb|p|nt|juan lukas: efficace |pg||
nt|juan lukas: aïe |pg||
nt|phicro: 5@d n'est jamais limpide, au dessus de 5@c|pg||
nt|ritong: je parlais de ta suggestion|pg||
nt|juan lukas: bon a Béné de deviner :)|pg||
nt|ritong: pour gagner plus|pg||
nt|phicro: d'un autre côtré, les Américaines ont joué 6@s, donc on peut s'arrêter à 5...|pg||
nt|ritong: desastre americain autre salle|pg||
nt|juan lukas: exact Philippe mais si elles s'arretent , elles vont avoir un peu peur d'avoir perdu des imps ..... heureusement que le suspens ne durera pas longtemps |pg||
nt|ritong: oui, c est l avant derniere|pg||
nt|ritong: de ce segment|pg||
nt|kareno: Gosh no.|pg||
nt|passell: quite a battle here|pg||
nt|3for3: i am  a big fan of raising on 3 trump, but not there|pg||
nt|dinos1: def will set 3@h + 3 for AK A|pg||
nt|brolucius: So, the Italians have set the high-jump bar one notch higher.|pg||
nt|kit: West has normal heart lead, that will certainly hold declarer to 8 tricks|pg||
nt|hedyg: y|pg||
nt|brolucius: Garner was in two minds about 3@S/4@S, which he expressed well by making the only available game-try bid. |pg||
nt|fann4: Is he still thinking after the sign-off?|pg||
nt|joest: now that he's solicited Weinstein's opinion what is he thinking about?|pg||
nt|kit: If Garner does bid 4@S here, Holman might have something to say about that|pg||
nt|bjacobs: This is tense ... hard to see too many tricks here for N/S|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: Spade lead futile as partner didn't overcall 1@S, so diamond seems like best shot|pg||
nt|avivs: and it's definately not Walsh|pg||
nt|kareno: No you need a reason to raise with three only trumps.. a short suit|pg||
nt|fann4: It's been a pretty quiet set - 7 pushes and 4x 1 imp swings - suits SA.|pg||
nt|kit: and may well defeat him|pg||
nt|dinos1: shd|pg||
nt|brolucius: South Africa qualified for this quarter-final on the last board of the Round Robin, by just 0.5 IMPs. The players must have aged considerably during the event.|pg||
nt|brolucius: VPs, I mean.|pg||
nt|dinos1: after taking @hJ E has no other shift but @d|pg||
nt|brolucius: I hear that Duboin could have cashed out for one trick fewer in the Closed Room.|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|dinos1: y|pg||
nt|kit: but I don't think he even has a think|pg||
mb|p|nt|phicro: c'est vrai jean-Luc|pg||
nt|robinswr: its always wrong if you have a singlton|pg||
nt|kit: when it is a part-score battle and you have 9 of them, clubs ain't so bad|pg||
pc|c4|nt|brolucius: An Italian kibitzer tells me: we have aged more than players.    Indeed!|pg||
nt|vincenzo: @HK   now ....|pg||
nt|kit: N-S will do fine in the spade partial|pg||
nt|kit: Zia won't fall for this|pg||
nt|kit: He knows West doesn't have AK of clubs since no club lead|pg||
nt|swanson: Reasonable lead - nothing was attractive.|pg||
pc|s6|nt|phicro: Voilà ce que je craignais|pg||
nt|ritong: y a pas de bobo|pg||
nt|phicro: Ouf, retour...|pg||
nt|kit: So West must have ace of hearts|pg||
nt|swanson: North shouldn't have four hearts because he didn't double the first time.|pg||
pc|c6|nt|lc: Ideally, you'd want to play 3NT by NORTH -- but not so easy -- and probably not likely to matter since @SK rates to be with WEst on the bidding.|pg||
nt|joest: as someone said to me once: "thinking is overbidding"|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|bjacobs: This brings them to within a game swing|pg||
pc|dK|nt|juan lukas: d'un autre coté quand le partenaire dit 4@c et ne nomme pas le controle @s , vu de la main de Béné , on ne voit pas comment le controle @d pourrait manquer |pg||
nt|kareno: Fortunately declarer has other business before he plays on hearts.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: USA having a terrific set against USA1 in the seniors. 46-6, and now only 3 IMPs behind despite the lost grand slam in the first 1|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ritong: c est exact|pg||
nt|ritong: au pire peut on craindre un roi de @d traversable|pg||
nt|kit: West doesn't know where 10 of diamonds is, so he will probably lead queen of diamonds|pg||
nt|kit: his partner led a relatively high diamond, but might have done so from 10xxx.|pg||
nt|kareno: The five is sort of high - could it be fourth?|pg||
nt|avivs: well the lead was a second highest 5... so maybe will read it correctly|pg||
nt|ritong: 10765|pg||
nt|kareno: And would he lead the five from that holding?|pg||
nt|avivs: I would lead the 7 from that holding playing 4th/2nd|pg||
nt|ritong: that is more difficult to establish:-)|pg||
nt|avivs: a @c seams safe|pg||
nt|3for3: T543?|pg||
nt|passell: club back will make him guess the hearts later|pg||
nt|lc: Double-dummy, the @D10 here.  And, this suit rings a bell to me  ---|pg||
nt|lc: Is it possible that "in a vacuum" it might be the percentage play for 4 tricks?|pg||
nt|swanson: Sometimes the bidding comes up that you can right-side the contract with this holding.  Here the bidding got too crowded.|pg||
nt|lc: If they are 3-3 nothing matters.|pg||
nt|lc: If @D are 4-2, let's see.  Low to the ace and then low to the ...|pg||
nt|jwit: Do you play on diamonds or clubs?|pg||
nt|lc: That's not clear right away either, is it?|pg||
nt|lc: Of course, if you plan to play East for @CQ, you can always do that later and emerge with 9 tricks.|pg||
nt|kit: club ruff, diamond ruff, club ruff, diamond ruff, club ruff, heart up -- I think that does it|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer surely knows now that East holds the @DA.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: If he makes this, he deserves to win the match|pg||
nt|kit: Maybe not -- East can then ruff one of his partner's winners and lay down ace of diamonds, as West pitches his last small heart|pg||
pc|s2|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c3|nt|kareno: A spec says they don't lead from T432 :)|pg||
pc|c7|nt|kareno: Or don't lead fourth in any case.|pg||
nt|kit: Versace decided not to play his partner for the 10 -- he was right|pg||
nt|kit: now king of diamonds to get signal|pg||
nt|Walddk2: USA2|pg||
pc|s7|nt|kit: and down they go|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Seems so|pg||
nt|dinos1: good K - check if pd has @hK|pg||
nt|vincenzo: a casa ...|pg||
nt|amadala: 6 to sa|pg||
nt|brolucius: The swing was due to a difference in notrump ranges but, as on previous boards, the defence needed to be accurate to extract the IMPs.|pg||
nt|junka: Seniors:   Brazil 198  Canada 171.  16 boards....:)|pg||
nt|amadala: wd brazil!!|pg||
nt|brolucius: I have turned up my speakers but... no fat ladies are singing yet.|pg||
nt|ritong: the swing was also due to bosen inspired pass on 1nt|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|kit: but declarer still has enough tricks it seems|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Semi-finals Venice Cup (women): USA1 v USA2 and Germany v China|pg||
nt|lc: So, if planning to play @C that way, can't hurt to try @D first.|pg||
nt|jwit: 4 club tricks and you're home.  With diamonds you need either 3-3 or something favorable|pg||
nt|swanson: I go for diamonds.  Can play for 4 club tricks later if diamonds don't come in.|pg||
nt|jwit: True John|pg||
nt|lc: Right.  But you can test @D first -- and play East for @CQ later.|pg||
nt|mittmouse: y exactly|pg||
pc|d2|nt|ritong: au mieux, c est sur table|pg||
nt|kit: although if versace ducks a couple of spades .....|pg||
nt|bjacobs: AWest has already pitched all his little hearts|pg||
nt|kit: better pitch a heart here|pg||
pc|h4|nt|passell: oops|pg||
nt|kit: normally queen would seem automatic|pg||
nt|jwit: Of course, if you play for diamonds, and it doesn't work, and you now misguess the club queen, you're going down a lot more|pg||
pc|s3|nt|kareno: So, the right ace knocked out and west is on lead again.|pg||
nt|avivs: is there a "wrong" ace to knock out?|pg||
nt|kit: even if Versace had ducked a couple of spades, declarer would eventually have made with the jack of hearts coming down|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|passell: a couple of spade ducks would have forced a heart guess|pg||
nt|kit: declarer planning on taking later diamond finesse|pg||
nt|kit: Although from the defense, one might deduce that West has the queen of diamonds -- surely he would have returned a diamond if he didn't.|pg||
nt|kit: Anyway, declarer will now go after hearts, and probably make 11 tricks|pg||
nt|3for3: just keeping the suit unblocked in case west gets ended later...much later|pg||
nt|3for3: probably 10 at most|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|nt|3for3: defense has 2, plus ace of @H|pg||
pc|sT|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|jwit: And at 100 a copy in a close match, it could matter|pg||
nt|kit: now heart to king for sure|pg||
nt|kit: West has to go up, play clubs -- and East has to ruff the last club and lay down ace of diamonds so West can pitch heart|pg||
nt|joest: right.  A tough play for Cope|pg||
nt|kit: or East can pitch his hearts on the clubs and get a heart ruff|pg||
nt|mariner1: I don;t think SA can win unless they some how beat this 200|pg||
nt|brolucius: And maybe a tough play for Holman.|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe they can go plus with the EW cards on the last board|pg||
nt|kit: so they will beat it 1 for a 5 IMP pickup -- putting them one game swing away|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ritong: faites béton la némo|pg||
pc|h6|nt|kit: sorry, miscounted|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d9|pg||
nt|robinswr: another heart will set up 2spade tricks|pg||
nt|kit: East will get his queen of spades on the promotion|pg||
nt|kit: so 2@S makes, and 3@C would have made|pg||
nt|swanson: The defense is now in position to score the @SQ on a promotion.|pg||
nt|kit: and don't anybody leave -- it might happen!|pg||
pc|h5|nt|lc: I suppose -- but probably would be -200 or -300 instead of -100 -- and such a good chance @D come in with @CQ wrong, that I think it right to test @D first.|pg||
nt|jwit: If the K of spades shows heart cards, Holman may have given away the club situation|pg||
nt|jwit: Or he could be being deceptive lol|pg||
nt|mittmouse: k of s was too revealing he could only be showing an entry with kq of h he should get the c right now|pg||
nt|amadala: shanghai bbo vugraph archive at http://www.bridge.la/torneos/2007/mundial/bbo.html|pg||
nt|lc: Zia knows that West started with  @SKJxxx  and  @D9x.   East with  @S109x  and @DQJxx.  That's 7 cards in each suit.|pg||
nt|fann4: In the CR, NS have ended up in 4@H|pg||
nt|lc: 7 known cards in each hand, I mean.|pg||
nt|lc: Hmm -- 4@H is a dicey contract.  On a @S lead not many losers.  Should be interesting.|pg||
pc|h7|nt|kit: Not good to sell out at 2-level when both sides have 9-card fits|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s4|nt|kit: now another heart is safe enough|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 7 imps, 1 board to play|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 9 imps|pg||
nt|kit: right|pg||
nt|kit: 9 imps|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sA|nt|jwit: Yes, but if he believes the K of spades as showing heart cards, he should get the club right|pg||
pc|dT|nt|bjacobs: Arithmetic seems to go out the window at times like this|pg||
pc|h2|pc|s5|pg||
pc|hK|nt|robinswr: west could have doubled 2spades for takeout|pg||
nt|brolucius: The Italy-South Africa quarter-final depended on the last board, and so will this match.|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|s8|pg||
nt|mittmouse: wd zia|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h8|mc|8|nt|kit: he found a way to hold himself to 9|pg||
nt|3for3: 2 imps to italy|pg||
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qx|c31|st||md|1ST76HJ932DKQ8432C,SK854HA64D5CAKJT6,SAQJ32HK85DCQ9532,S9HQT7DAJT976C874|sv|n|nt|steshome: Two boards and ten imps to find|pg||
nt|lesrays: China back in range|pg||
mb|p|nt|roghog: excellent swingolology by Wang|pg||
nt|lesrays: now needing a game swing|pg||
mb|1C|nt|roghog: - don't look that one up in your dictionaries, folks...|pg||
nt|lesrays: 15 points plus 3 for a singleton!|pg||
mb|1S|nt|xenya: perhaps not the best moment for this off-shape 1N...|pg||
nt|lesrays: South wil be surprised when east bids @Ds|pg||
nt|steshome: Uncharacteristically undisciplined from Wang - Liu might just bid game and hope now|pg||
nt|roghog: 14-16 NT - desperately swinging now - she must think her side is well adrift|pg||
mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|steshome: What did 2@S show?  |pg||
mb|p|nt|lesrays: South can guess which minor|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|lesrays: how many down?|pg||
nt|steshome: Levin must be chuckling - only the six trumps in defence |pg||
pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c2|nt|xenya: no double, no trouble? -- this may go down 2 -- or even 1...|pg||
nt|steshome: Well that disposes of the club loser|pg||
nt|roghog: it will be all down to the last board|pg||
nt|xenya: between 1 and 3, to be more precise :)|pg||
pc|c4|pc|d4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|d6|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s4|nt|steshome: Poor old Liu playing this hand must be toiling away working out which  minor North has|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c7|pc|s7|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h3|nt|steshome: She's found out now|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
nt|lesrays: loks like 2 down for a flat board|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|c8|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|mc|9|nt|steshome: In the other semifinal - Germany has now beaten France.  Only one board left for the Chinese now to generate another swing|pg||
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qx|o32|st||md|2SK832HAK86DKQ75C5,SA6HT9DT9CAKQJT82,SQ974HJ75DAJ82C74,SJT5HQ432D643C963|sv|e|nt|vugraphs4: this table will play the different board 32 |pg||
nt|ritong: heun?|pg||
nt|vugraphs4: so I can't broadcast the board 32|pg||
nt|phicro: La donne 32 a été rebattue pour des raisons non communiquées en salle ouverte|pg||
nt|ritong: we were not aware about any hanky panky, no big deal anyway|pg||
nt|phicro: Nous n'avons donc pas le diagramme|pg||
nt|Zmud99: BBO a tout prevu....sauf de redonner la donne à la main :(|pg||
nt|ritong: c est sournois, faut dire|pg||
nt|phicro: Comme quoi l'homme étonnera toujours la machine :)|pg||
nt|ritong: heh!|pg||
nt|ritong: thanks a lot, operator  may we know your name?|pg||
nt|vugraphs4: W S KT75 H T3 D QT64 C A9|pg||
nt|ritong: we have trouble knowing first or second names with chinese proceedings|pg||
nt|vugraphs4: now E play 4D|pg||
nt|phicro: Avant cette donne inconnue, les Françaises gagnaient 18 dans la mi-temps, pour mener en tout de 24 Imps|pg||
nt|phicro: Pas un écart énorme avec 64 donnes à jouer, mais c'est toujours encourageant|pg||
nt|juan lukas: comme dirait le copain d'henri , monsieur de la palice , mieux vaut +24 que - 24 |pg||
nt|ritong: ça c est bien vrai, ça ( la mère denis)|pg||
nt|vugraphs4: The final result is 4D+1|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Last board of the set now. Thanks again to Frédéric Volcker, our brilliant operator in Shanghai|pg||
nt|ritong: merci fred|pg||
nt|fann4: Some swing potential here.|pg||
nt|kit: another juicy competitive hand|pg||
nt|3for3: here is a meaty looking hand|pg||
nt|kareno: Bravo again!!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Also thanks to our excellent commentators: Jeff Sapire, Karen Allison, Kit Woolsey and Danny Sprung|pg||
nt|3for3: while roland is thanking everyone else, lets all thank him for his tireless efforts here|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: thx all :) see you for the round 5 :)|pg||
nt|fann4: Thanks all|pg||
nt|kit: but West has shown up with AK of diamonds and ace of clubs, so Nunes decided he couldn't have the king of hearts or he wouldn't have passed over 1NT|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: ok the last|pg||
nt|brolucius: Do I hear singing?|pg||
nt|dinos1: 7 imps and last board|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Last board of the match now|pg||
nt|soban: .|pg||
nt|dinos1: no swing here|pg||
nt|kit: And a final slam -- but SA bid and made it!|pg||
nt|brolucius: A marvellous match and a credit to both teams!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Thanks again to our terrific operator, Frédéric Volcker. Great job!|pg||
nt|amadala: wd South Africa!|pg||
nt|vugraphs3: Italy should X XX the 6S contract|pg||
nt|ritong: merci fred  super|pg||
nt|dinos1: ))|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Last board of the set now. Thanks again to Frédéric Volcker, our brilliant operator in Shanghai|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: last thx al|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 10 days on the trot, 3 times a day. Very impressive!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Give him a hand all|pg||
nt|swanson: Without the heart lead, Zia might well have made an overtrick, guessing spades.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Last board of the set now|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: thx all the last here :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Thanks very much to Frédéric Volcker, our outstanding operator in Shanghai|pg||
nt|jwit: 1AM for you Larry.  It's 10PM here and I'm tired|pg||
nt|lc: Yes -- excellent job there!!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I'm sensing that the last board has some interest ...|pg||
nt|fann4: And SA have made 11 tricks here in 4@S|pg||
nt|kit: it sure does!|pg||
nt|kit: This game is far from cold -- |pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|kareno: Indeed!!|pg||
nt|joest: you're right about that|pg||
mb|p|nt|vincenzo: 6 picche surcontrate in questo board ...|pg||
mb|d|nt|avivs: Italy did well to go plus in CR|pg||
nt|3for3: ns should be in 4@S quickly here|pg||
nt|kit: North will bid 4@S over 2@H raise I predict|pg||
nt|Walddk2: and to Aviv Shahaf of course, sorry Aviv|pg||
nt|lc: Excellent job Frederic|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Also thanks to our excellent commentators: Larry Cohen, John Swanson, Jon Wittes and George Mittelman|pg||
nt|kit: but it should make -- on likely bidding, will play West for Ax of spades, which is what is needed|pg||
nt|dburn: since North-South can't score +50, any plus score they can get is good enough|pg||
nt|barnets: USA dec3NX in venice on the hJ lead|pg||
nt|bjacobs: They have to bid 4@S first|pg||
nt|kit: they will surely get to 4@S|pg||
mb|3C|nt|kit: and then the pressure will be on East|pg||
nt|swanson: clap - clap|pg||
nt|jwit: Thanks everyone|pg||
nt|lc: And thank to Roland -- who hasn't slept in 2 weeks, I suppose.|pg||
nt|joest: Holman rates to bid 3@c|pg||
nt|bjacobs: The problem is that stopping in a partscore is just fine for the Americans|pg||
nt|dburn: and since the board can't be passed out, any minus score for USA is bad enough|pg||
nt|joest: three spades now will catch a raise|pg||
mb|3S|nt|ritong: eh bien merci a tous|pg||
nt|kareno: Absolutely|pg||
nt|passell: will be tough not to bid on|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our gratitude to the WBF for allowing us to broadcast from the most prestigious event of them all|pg||
nt|3for3: impossible, i'd say|pg||
nt|fann4: Agreed|pg||
nt|passell: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: he s rather looking for slam|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am told that both Rosenbergs are 9 IMPs up, with one board to play.|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: this is pushing it a lot I think|pg||
nt|fann4: He did get a helpful @S lead, but there are a lot of ways to play 4@H|pg||
nt|swanson: You're tired Jon because you're on golf time rather than bridge time.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Also thanks to Jeff Sapire of course|pg||
mb|4S|nt|ritong: pas de salle française pour le troisieme match|pg||
nt|phicro: Je ne trouive pas le score des seniors, mais je vais essayer de me renseigner|pg||
nt|amadala: bermuda bowl, venice cup and senior bowl running scores at http://www.bridge.la/torneos/2007/mundial/running.html|pg||
nt|juan lukas: merci a tous |pg||
nt|phicro: je rappelle aux spectateurs que nus regardons un diagramme qui n'est pas le bon...|pg||
nt|phicro: Les Seniors français mènent de 11,3 points, d'après mes informateurs shanghaiens |pg||
nt|Walddk2: On behalf of BBO, Hervé Lustman has been instrumental in training operators and setting up a magnificent show. Hervé is getting married on Jan 11, poor soul|pg||
nt|ritong: well, he considers it worth a try|pg||
nt|kit: AQ of hearts, KQ of clubs, A of diamonds he needs to gin a slam -- too much to expect|pg||
nt|passell: maybe only kxxxx of clubs|pg||
nt|fann4: Is this KCard or something else?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Also thanks to our excellent commentators: John Swanson, Kit Woolsey, Steve Robinson and Jeff Sapire|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Despite one or two slips previously, Bosenberg and Eber have produced the goods on the final board.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Also thanks to our many excellent commentators: Kit, David, Sergey, Tom, and all the others who joined at certain points|pg||
nt|kit: it turns out that this slam is actually inferior due to the mirror distribution -- needs 3-2 spade split and a club honor onside guessed right|pg||
nt|kit: but hard to avoid|pg||
nt|kit: Zia thinks his hand is better than 15-17|pg||
nt|lc: Note the light 1@S response.  Dangerous -- but I prefer it to passing.  My partners, though would usually rebid 3@D.|pg||
nt|jwit: Good lead|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Our gratitude to the WBF for allowing us to broadcast this the most prestigious events of them all|pg||
nt|brolucius: With the defeat of USA2 and Italy, we will have new champions this year.|pg||
nt|amadala: receive all the information of the world bridge championship and transnational open teams in the next newsletter of bridge.la, register free at http://www.bridge.la/suscribite.html|pg||
nt|Walddk2: On behalf of BBO, Hervé Lustman from France has been instrumental in organising the broadcasts on site. Many thanks to him too!|pg||
nt|kit: I wonder what 4@S shows here|pg||
nt|ritong: must be well defined, since it burns a lot of space|pg||
nt|brolucius: I had three consecutive kibitzer messages telling me that the winners will be (a) Yes, Norway, (b) surely Netherlands and (c) USA1 must be favourite now.|pg||
nt|amadala: 2007 is the year of Netherlands!|pg||
nt|brolucius: Italy had first pick of their opponents and chose a team that had already beaten them 19-11 in Round Robin.|pg||
nt|junka: Bravo !! South Africa !!!!|pg||
nt|dinos1: so we wittnessed the first sensation! who cd think SA being 8th in RR will beat great Blue Team?|pg||
nt|motbocaj: Much as I sympathise with the great many Italian supporters (barring accidents) this is a superb result for the underdogs and is good for Bridge|pg||
nt|brolucius: And now a good dozen, predicting that it will be SA to triumph. Who can write them off after this wonderful win?|pg||
nt|junka: take care...... SA is comming.....:):)|pg||
nt|amadala: :)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: ie wiem... coœ mieli w plecy....|pg||
nt|brolucius: It may seem to Nunes that he has the fate of the match in his hands, on this slam deal.|pg||
nt|dinos1: got msg - it's 2nd sensation. First - USA 2 didnt qualify|pg||
nt|brolucius: In retrospect he may wish to stop in game, so they don't worry about a single-digit loss, and how it might have been avoided, for several sleepless nights.|pg||
nt|amadala: Seniors SF: brazil - indonesia  / usa 1 - usa 2|pg||
nt|brolucius: Perhaps the VG operator should break all the rules and whisper in his ear...|pg||
nt|ritong: not a french one:-)|pg||
nt|kit: and he won't even support his partner's spades|pg||
nt|swanson: Jeff got outtalked - tough to get in a comment with the three of us.|pg||
nt|kit: If the contract fails, SA wins by 2 IMPs!|pg||
pc|c3|nt|Walddk2: Play will resume in about 40 minutes with this match, plus Netherlands v Norway and France v Germany (ladies)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Hope to see you all back then|pg||
nt|kit: Zia judged well it looks like -- the hand plays fine in notrump|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Norway 16 up against NL with 2 to play|pg||
nt|joest: off this bidding it feels like Garner will ge the spades right|pg||
nt|bjacobs: The play doesn't seem too hard, does it?|pg||
nt|fann4: He almost cannot go wrong in the trump suit.|pg||
nt|kit: no, it really doesn't seem to difficult|pg||
pc|c5|nt|amadala: oooo|pg||
nt|amadala: 11 + to SA|pg||
nt|motbocaj: It has been a magnificent fightback on this last set and the Italians can be happy with that (small comfort I know)|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|amadala: ok, thxs all|pg||
nt|kit: they probably had a mixup on what the 4@S call means -- I can't imagine Nunes passing if he knew his partner was this strong|pg||
nt|dinos1: good decision|pg||
nt|lc: So, it looks like with the friendly lie that this is a make on any lead, no?|pg||
nt|fann4: Zia switched to a @H at trick 2, which picked the suit up.|pg||
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nt|barnets: yes it was debbie playing 3NX from the west seat|pg||
pc|cK|nt|lc: Off 2@H  2@C and @SA|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our gratitude to the WBF for letting us broadcast from the most prestigious event of them all. On behalf of BBO, Hervé Lustman from France (Zmud99) has been instrumental in ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: organising the broadcasts at the venue. Well done to him too!|pg||
pc|c7|nt|dinos1: ))|pg||
nt|dinos1: but no luck|pg||
pc|c6|nt|kareno: So a push board Five over five once they've had a chance to evaluate?  Hmmm.|pg||
nt|kit: big error by Cope -- 5@H was going down except for an impossibly double-dummy line of play|pg||
nt|granguru: 5@H was made by Brazil with a @D lead|pg||
nt|avivs: I think East meant it as 2 places to play and west might have taken it diferently|pg||
nt|kareno: Listen, specs, to posthumous advice from the great Paul Heitner:  "The five-level belongs to the opponents!"|pg||
nt|kareno: This is a costly mistake.|pg||
nt|fann4: Perhaps an initial 4@D by North, showing the 2 suiter? |pg||
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nt|kareno: South must be seething.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Norway has no 3rd pair at the moment. Grøtheim taken ill with a stomach upset|pg||
nt|dburn: of course it is - they have eight trumps, so how can they fail to make eight tricks?|pg||
pc|s3|nt|lc: Now, now David -- don't be condecending.|pg||
pc|s6|nt|bjacobs: I'dl like to thank Frederic and all the commentators on this the final board of the match|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|fann4: A spec says 4NT was Turbo. But what did it show?|pg||
nt|ritong: envy|pg||
nt|dinos1: even   of KC|pg||
nt|fann4: Thanks specs, it shows an even number of aces.|pg||
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pc|s4|nt|kit: and duck a spade, and it is all over|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|fann4: Or Key cards|pg||
pc|s8|nt|passell: I can see north saving over 6hearts but not 5|pg||
nt|swanson: The @CJ by Rosenberg 'surrounds' the 10 in dummy should South hold the @CK and declarer the queen.|pg||
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nt|brolucius: Had the defenders' cards lain differently, keeping out of the slam would have won it on the last board for the Italians.|pg||
pc|dT|nt|lc: Of course, if they did fail to make 8 tricks, I'd expect N-S could make something  :)|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|kit: a great match|pg||
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nt|dinos1: yes - @cJ on E - and victory|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sT|nt|kareno: After the opponents have evaluated and passed you just let them play the 5-level.  They have to be exactly right - five MUST make and six not make.|pg||
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mc|10|nt|jwit: School is out|pg||
nt|dburn: North-South can almost certainly make eight tricks in diamonds. The Law prevails :)|pg||
nt|lc: Thanks David.  Your commission check is in the mail.|pg||
nt|swanson: Thanks all - this match continues to be a struggle.  32 boards to go.|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: ok tx all :)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: USA versus Norway starts tomorrow|pg||
nt|fann4: Well done to USA! but as a South African we are proud of a team that took out the Italians, and nearly beat these guys.|pg||
nt|joest: so it will be USA I vs Norway in the Bermuda Bowlfinal|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: well done USA :)|pg||
nt|joest: and well you should be|pg||
nt|brolucius: The final session was well contested at both tables. A great standard of play.|pg||
nt|barnets: great game congrats to usa1 and commiserations to SA|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: bye bye all :)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Cheers|pg||
nt|vugraphs1: see you tommorow for the big Final :)|pg||
nt|barnets: their performance was outstanding|pg||
nt|brolucius: Thanks for watching!|pg||
nt|joest: good night all|pg||
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qx|c32|st||md|2SK832HAK86DKQ75C5,SA6HT9DT9CAKQJT82,SQ974HJ75DAJ82C74,SJT5HQ432D643C963|sv|e|mb|1C|nt|roghog: 370 swing = 9 IMPs and a tie|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|steshome: A spectator tells me that China missed a chance to defeat 3NTx by 4 tricks in the open room|pg||
nt|xenya: can EW get 170 here?|pg||
nt|lesrays: China as E/W need a plus|pg||
nt|roghog: ah - except that China had 0.3 carry-over - thanks, specs |pg||
mb|1N|nt|steshome: Wang sounds like she is going quietly|pg||
nt|roghog: real score is 210-201.3|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|xenya: still the Chinese need 9 imps here|pg||
nt|steshome: Decision time|pg||
mb|2C|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|roghog: US's late penalty is in our score, but not on the running scores site, I'm told|pg||
mb|3H|nt|lesrays: so thats it for China|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|steshome: Yes indeed.  |pg||
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nt|steshome: Disappointing for the home team - commiserations to them.  Congratulations to USA1.  |pg||
pc|dA|nt|soban: beda 15 imp|pg||
nt|lesrays: thanks all - enjoy the final|pg||
nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg||
nt|roghog: bye for now|pg||
nt|roghog: and many thanks to our brilliant VG operator !!!|pg||
nt|roghog: and to the WBF and everyone else involved in this fantastic spectacle|pg||
nt|steshome: And to our brilliant Roland for all the organisation|pg||
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mc|11|pg||
