vg|A - Bermuda Bowl 2011,Final 3_8,I,1,16,Netherlands,65,USA 2,88|
rs|5CN-3,3NS-2,6CW=,4CW+1,5CWx=,5CEx=,5HE-1,4HE=,2NN+2,2DN+2,2SS=,2HS+2,3NW+2,1HSx-3,3NN=,2CS+3,3NN+1,3NN-1,4SS=,4SS+1,4SSx-2,4SSx-2,2SS-1,2SS-1,2NS-2,4HS-1,4SW+2,6SW=,5CWx-2,4CE-1,4HE-1,4HE=|
pn|VERHEES JR,WOOLDRIDGE,PROOIJEN,HURD,LALL,BRINK,GRUE,DRIJVER|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SA872HAQ8D75CA952,SKQHKT7642D3CQJ83,ST5H5DAQJ94CKT764,SJ9643HJ93DKT862C|sv|o|nt|jaapfr vg: and the 4@S b25 was indeed made after @H discard E (now sitting N)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS play 2N opening as 6-10 with 55 minors  but this hand may be too good|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: here 3nt no chance with awful distribution|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%202/hurd-wooldridge.pdf|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Netherlands/vanprooijen-verhees.pdf|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other room  Grue-Lall NS also play Strong @C|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: weleave it to you Al giving explanations of bidding(you doing great:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: playoff matches in all 3 championship events are playing their final 16 boards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Bermuda Bowl final 128 boards  so 3 sets tomorrow and 2 sets saturday|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=11-5 HCP, 0+@D|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: and France in SB and VC strong leading|pg||
nt|ahollan1: can have longer @S/@C but NOT longer @H|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 1@S usually not game force|pg||
mb|3C|an|minors, equal length or longer !c|nt|ahollan1: N has now shown both minors|pg||
mb|3H|nt|jaapfr vg: so 3nt S expected but after 3@C might seek for @C slam|pg||
nt|ahollan1: he had way to show longer or better @D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: [2N]|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: even 5@C IF X can go for down 3|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: usa vs. italy 6@c -4 and 5@c -3, neither doubled|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: Playoffs  Senior  Poland leads USA2 by 44    Venice Cup  Netherlands over England by 1   Bermuda Bowl  Italy over USA1  by 48|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s6|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c6|nt|jaapfr vg: as expected 5@C not X|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hand with long @H was NOT supposed to have long @C|pg||
pc|h9|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
pc|d7|pc|h4|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d4|nt|jaapfr vg: without 3@C bid more likely NS would end in 3nt|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|s3|pc|c9|pg||
pc|hT|pc|cT|pc|s4|pc|h8|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|s2|pc|h6|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|8|nt|ahollan1: vP realizes 3N not making either|pg||
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qx|c1|st||md|3SA872HAQ8D75CA952,SKQHKT7642D3CQJ83,ST5H5DAQJ94CKT764,SJ9643HJ93DKT862C|sv|o|nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
nt|ady: good afternoon all|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: hi all|pg||
nt|jcwla:  EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Netherlands/Brink-Drijver.pdf |pg||
nt|ady: hi Gerbrand|pg||
mb|1D!|an|2+!D|nt|roswolf: team orange v team america great shootout|pg||
nt|jcwla:  NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Netherlands/Brink-Drijver.pdf |pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|1N!|an|5+!h-4+!C|nt|rhelle: 1NT = good 12 - 15|pg||
nt|roswolf: game seems inevitable now|pg||
nt|roswolf: probably 3nt|pg||
mb|p|an|Normally no 3!S|mb|2H|nt|rhelle: pass looks like a good decision with a max of 25 and 3343 distribution|pg||
nt|ady: high level contract not likely to make|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|jcwla:  OR video feed: http://www.wkbridge2011.com/en/live |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jcwla:  Running scores: http://bridgewinners.com/ |pg||
nt|roswolf: the bidding has told declarer of the club position|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Tourney website: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Veldhoven.htm |pg||
pc|h2|nt|rhelle: the @d is a very friendly lead. By continuign @ds, declarer can make many tricks|pg||
nt|rhelle: 9, with help of the @h finesse|pg||
nt|ady: this made easier with the lead|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|davidstern: At the other table Van Proojen and Vverhees against Wooldridge and Hurd|pg||
nt|ady: lead  though normal|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|daman:  this is the CC for North South   http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Netherlands/muller-dewijs.pdf|pg||
nt|rhelle: @cs are 3-3 and @s blocked. So even 10 tricks available|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h8|nt|davidstern: This is boards 33-48 of 128|pg||
nt|ady: spade lead would have been more difficult|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes but spdae blockage would come to the aid of declarer|pg||
pc|hT|nt|ady: going down now   had to play on clubs first|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|sT|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ady: no easy hand to play|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes david - maybe he forgot the bidding|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|nt|ady: could be|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|s6|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4SKJT6HQ3DAK754C95,SA72HK954DCAQ8762,S954HAT8762D932CT,SQ83HJDQJT86CKJ43|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|jaapfr vg: but everything fails|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: 1@D =   i told you the open very weak hands  |pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: Fraance did not qualify for BB but chances are that in SB and VC they hit gold|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C is natural game force|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 5@C make here|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: tx to @D9 falling|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but intersting race after trump lead|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: but unlikely they go there|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or @S lead|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: y and @S lead too|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: should say 5@C has chances but not too realistic to bid|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on live vugraph   the beard = Joel Wooldridge|pg||
mb|4H!|an|cue|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: oh they go to 5@C now|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: mb even to 6:)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: 4@c might be asking kc here|pg||
mb|4S!|an|cue|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: 1@D meant : pd I sure have rubbish Al:)?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think 4@C natural slam try |pg||
mb|6C|mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Ben Green|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: it almost always promises 13 cards|pg||
nt|benjy:  Hi guys|pg||
nt|ahollan1: live video  showing 4@H = cue|pg||
nt|benjy:  Looks like this would make on a top @H lead|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: ouch|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: still needs to setup @D|pg||
nt|benjy:  take the double ruffing @D finesse and get rid of the spades?|pg||
nt|kareno: That is the only chance.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|benjy:  the only lead that would have beaten this would have been a spade|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|c6|pg||
nt|kareno: He carefully guards the club deuce as a late dummy entry.|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cJ|nt|ahollan1: @H ruffs late entry too|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but good habit|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|c7|pc|d2|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: Wooldridge still needs to guess @D|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|s2|pc|d9|pg||
nt|benjy:  he won't play north for Kxx|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|c2|pc|h6|pg||
nt|kareno: Well done!|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4SKJT6HQ3DAK754C95,SA72HK954DCAQ8762,S954HAT8762D932CT,SQ83HJDQJT86CKJ43|sv|n|nt|roswolf: a solid plus for team orane|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Lall: hoped Bas would smooth duck @DK|pg||
nt|roswolf: orange|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|roswolf: more competition here|pg||
mb|2D!|an|5+!H|nt|rhelle: 4@s now?|pg||
mb|d|an|t/o on !H|nt|ady: unusual 1NT|pg||
nt|roswolf: a pass from west at green - must be inconvenient for his system|pg||
mb|p|an|2!H|nt|roswolf: they open some wierd shapes david|pg||
nt|ady: nice club fot e/w   around 9 tricks      possible 10|pg||
nt|ady: yes I have seen Geoffrey|pg||
nt|wstuart: Hi folks.|pg||
mb|4C|nt|roswolf: now west leaps in|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|roswolf: the brakes came on quickly|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ady: diamond set up for 11 tricks a definate possibility on this lead     spade lead  much more of a problem|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Sjoert: ruff it, when bas had to play the @HJ :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: true but to those specs who clamour for game to bid - i just think that is too tough on this auction|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|s2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|c7|pc|d9|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|s7|pc|h7|pg||
nt|ady: 11 tricks|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
mc|11|nt|roswolf: yes maybe they should have bid game|pg||
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qx|o3|st||md|1SQ86HAQ9752D543C4,S2HDKJT976CKQJ975,SAJ7HKT63DAQ2C862,SKT9543HJ84D8CAT3|sv|e|nt|benjy:  The best thing about this contract was that it made|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: Too true.  |pg||
mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1S|mb|4H|mb|5C|nt|ahollan1: Verhees did NOT have weak 2@H available|pg||
nt|benjy:  Interesting pass from South here, too strong for a pre-empt or perhaps holding 3 spades he chose not ot|pg||
mb|p!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = opening bid with 5+@H 4+@C|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|benjy:  no multi Al?|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: they don't play weak 2's in any way|pg||
nt|ahollan1: no   Ultimate Canape system uses unusual 2@C/@D/@H openings  |pg||
nt|vugraphzns: and their coach told them not to preempt TOO much|pg||
nt|ahollan1: actually  2@S=natural weak 2    a fluke in the system|pg||
nt|benjy:  ok then he was forced to pass or open 1@H which is a little light even for me|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Netherlands/vanprooijen-verhees.pdf|pg||
nt|benjy:  Many would pass over 1@D with the north cards facing a passed partner, but i agree with the X|pg||
nt|kareno: I do as well.|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: i think dbl by van Prooijen over 5@c would have shown interest in bidding 5@h|pg||
nt|kareno: Down only one.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: those "Cokin" doubles definitely apply after they open and get to game   not sure after pass//takeout double|pg||
nt|benjy:  Looks like this is making to me|pg||
nt|kareno: I'm referring to 5@h.  5@c is obviously making.|pg||
nt|benjy:  A spec suggests that with such a strong holding in diamonds that north should lead a trump|pg||
nt|benjy:  i agree|pg||
nt|ahollan1: vanProoijen leads of @H not working out these last 2 hands|pg||
nt|benjy:  It would still make though|pg||
nt|kareno: Trump lead would be useful but with diamonds as they are, it won't defeat 5@c|pg||
nt|kit: hi everybody|pg||
nt|kareno: Kit :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if it hasn't been mentioned   it is a little strange that vanProoijen didn't take out insurance against vul vs not opponents|pg||
nt|kareno: You missed excitement on the last board.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|nt|kit: I see.  This one is just a dull push :)|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|c7|nt|ahollan1: trump lead would have forced Wooldridge to guess @D suit for 2nd hand in a row|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|nt|kit: Not much of a guess really is it?|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|benjy:  No I think he would always make|pg||
nt|benjy:  On a trump return he would have to play south for 10 major suit cards and Qx in diamonds, he won't do that|pg||
nt|benjy:  4621 with Qx in diamonds|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|c9|pg||
nt|kareno: There aren't many high cards missing.  North marked with heart king only.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: re|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|cT|pc|d3|pg||
nt|kit: He has just decided to take the ruffing finesse|pg||
nt|jaapfr: my connection as strong as the agreements the Europeans agreed on lastnight|pg||
mc|11|nt|kareno: Diamonds are USA2's best friend today!|pg||
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qx|c3|st||md|1SQ86HAQ9752D543C4,S2HDKJT976CKQJ975,SAJ7HKT63DAQ2C862,SKT9543HJ84D8CAT3|sv|e|mb|2H|an|can be 5, normally 6|nt|roswolf: wow another distro monster|pg||
mb|4N!|an|!C+!D, 4!H would show better !C+!D|nt|ady: 4@H a make for n/s|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|nt|ady: 6-6- west  though   can be highly contested|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: 2@d is very aggrassive, even by De Wijs's standards|pg||
nt|roswolf: no half measures for west|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: don't try this at home :)|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: good afternoon all|pg||
mb|p|nt|frankaus: traffic lights say go :)|pg||
nt|rhelle: it does seem to have worked, after a fashion|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: hi all|pg||
pc|s6|nt|vugraphznt: Sjoert when he puts dummy now, tja... hands you have to bid|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Brink: Sorry...|pg||
pc|s2|nt|rhelle: since declarer has 4 sure losers; 2 in each major, the double @c finesse will have to work|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c2|nt|roswolf: yes more american imps likely|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|nt|ady: could be duplicated    unless a sacrifice at the 5 level with n/s cards|pg||
nt|roswolf: sorry folks comment to a spec re previous bd|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|rhelle: and lo and behold ... today, it does :)|pg||
nt|sybarra: lots of questions re the pass of 1 nt by N on first board,  anyone have any insights? |pg||
nt|rhelle: yes, I do|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1NT = good 12 - 15. North has 10, with a 3343|pg||
nt|roswolf: it does show that everyone is watching carefully:)|pg||
nt|harmon: only chance to beat this is with swindle win 1st dwith ace|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|nt|rhelle: so a max of 25, and the risk of going off in 2NT for a non vulnerable game|pg||
nt|sybarra: thx that should settle the cannibals down|pg||
nt|rhelle: I'd pass that hand as well|pg||
nt|ady: Netherland may lose around 6 on hand 17  where they stopped in 1NT  with 25hcp|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s7|pg||
nt|ady: spades also become good|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|cK|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|roswolf: bd 1 team orange tried 5@C-3 for a 2 imp loss|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg||
nt|ady: you cannot though enjoy the sspades as that means drawing 2 more trumps   and that will lead to down 1|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|h2|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|cA|mc|11|pg||
qx|o4|st||md|2SA853H94D873CT975,S7HQ752DKQJ542CAJ,SJ962HA63DT96CK64,SKQT4HKJT8DACQ832|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|kit: There is serious danger of getting too high here|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: might get too high now|pg||
nt|benjy:  a club lead from south would defeat 5@H here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry Kit there first|pg||
nt|kit: It will be tempting for East to bid RKC -- then a club lead dooms 5@H|pg||
mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|4D!|nt|ahollan1: 3@S may asks for shortness|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: 4@H now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@D = short @S?    none, low, high|pg||
nt|kit: Quite possibly 3@S asked for shortness, and 4@D in a coded manner showed spade shortness.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: or will W conttinue?|pg||
nt|kit: How can West continue?  His 3@H call itself was a stretch.|pg||
nt|benjy:  If west is continuing then what was the point in showing shortness?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: so who is taking a pause here then:)?|pg||
nt|benjy:  He is probably writing a small essay explaining the auction to his opponeny|pg||
nt|benjy:  opponent|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: no he's thinking not writing|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Hurd 4@H definitely says  not enouraged by short @S|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: so we don't know what 3@s and 4@d show|pg||
nt|jaapfr: ty Dennis|pg||
nt|benjy:  I am amazed that he is thinking|pg||
nt|ahollan1: at the same time  helps Verhees find @C lead|pg||
nt|kit: yes, it would appear that thinking is an overbid|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Wooldridge doesn't do anything quickly|pg||
nt|benjy:  that is true|pg||
mb|4S!|an|rkc|mb|p|mb|5D!|mb|p|nt|kit: 4@S is RKC I imagine|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Ben  did you play against these guys as Juniors?|pg||
nt|benjy:  Yes a lot|pg||
nt|kit: Now if West showed stiff spade, club lead should be easy to find|pg||
nt|benjy:  The first time I played them was in Holland 11 years ago|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: interesting enough brink-drijver played together as juniors and played against hurd-wooldridge|pg||
mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: It would already be in my hand as south :)|pg||
nt|benjy:  Yes almost all of these guys except Justin Lall were at this tournament 11 years ago|pg||
pc|c9|nt|jaapfr: @C lead is rather sure|pg||
nt|kit: and Netherlands gets some badly needed IMPs back|pg||
nt|kareno: So 12 IMPs look like coming back to Netherlands.|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|nt|jaapfr: 77-103 sounds a bit better|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: @C9 probably a 2nd/4th lead|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg||
nt|jaapfr: better=more balanced|pg||
mc|10|nt|benjy:  I should clarify that I didn't play against Verhees and Van Prooijen they are older|pg||
nt|ahollan1: no  that's not part of the arsenal  nor is rusinow|pg||
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qx|c4|st||md|2SA853H94D873CT975,S7HQ752DKQJ542CAJ,SJ962HA63DT96CK64,SKQT4HKJT8DACQ832|sv|b|mb|1D|an|5+!D except 4441!C|nt|roswolf: a good one forthe dutch in the bank|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C!|an|GF Relay|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|minimum|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|relay|nt|sybarra: long ways to go in the match.... just can not let the get too far ahead |pg||
mb|p|mb|2S!|an|4!H|mb|p|nt|roswolf: after all that 4@H seems far too boring|pg||
nt|ady: 4@H   likely stopping place|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ady: 6@C  good contract   but fails on bad trump split|pg||
nt|rhelle: if you look at the NS hands of board 17 in isolation, and you'd give a score in a bidding competition, you score 10 for 1NT|pg||
nt|rhelle: 6@c: you have a sure @d loser, and a 2nd @s loser if the @dA is wrong. So not so great ...|pg||
nt|ady: Netherlands done well to keep out of alsm|pg||
nt|rhelle: and that is only if the @sK is right|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: on bd 2 team america in 6@C i am told|pg||
pc|c7|nt|ady: played by west     slam a possibility|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s6|nt|sybarra: thought he might duck in both hands |pg||
nt|rhelle: Of course, 6@c looks good even when the @sK is offside - if the @d A is onside|pg||
pc|sK|nt|rhelle: but on a @s lead, it gets decidedly less good|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
nt|ady: problems|pg||
pc|c5|nt|rhelle: now declarer has some problems, and needs to start looking for his 9th trick|pg||
nt|frankaus: now what ?|pg||
nt|rhelle: I'd say, start by setting up a 2nd @s trick and advance the @s J|pg||
nt|ady: K@D best chance  |pg||
nt|ady: I think needs an error in defence|pg||
nt|rhelle: East has to duck, otherwise you have another entry to dummy|pg||
nt|ady: J@S   east can just win and return a heart  and no problem then for defence|pg||
nt|ady: does not have to duck   just clear hearts|pg||
nt|frankaus: many ways home from here|pg||
nt|rhelle: I hear various lines of play from the kibitzers.|pg||
nt|rhelle: To be honest, I'm not sure about any of them|pg||
nt|sybarra: but so much easier from this vantage point, dont you think?|pg||
nt|ady: wests play of 10@H  seems odd    maybe a view graph error|pg||
nt|rhelle: Declarer has noted the @h discard on the 1st @c|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: no error, W started @H 10...|pg||
nt|ady: well seems to be an error in defence  10@H lead|pg||
nt|rhelle: Where are the points? the 3rd hand 1@h doesn't promise the world|pg||
nt|sybarra: Muller thinking of every possible distribution,  knowing the @C and (maybe) hts|pg||
nt|frankaus: even from  up here the way forward is not clear|pg||
nt|frankaus: all the kibs and gib make it :)|pg||
nt|petergill: Bauke Muller is trying to work out why East played @H9 at Trick 1. With QJ98x, East would overtake @H10, in case it was a singleton.|pg||
nt|rhelle: declarer seems to have 9 tricks; 3@c, 2@d, 2@h, 2@s|pg||
nt|rhelle: but how to get them before the defence has 5?|pg||
nt|frankaus: welcome petergill|pg||
nt|sybarra: hi Peter |pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h2|nt|petergill: Hi. The defence makes no sense to South. That's why Bauke Muller, normally slow and thoughtful, is even mroe slow and thoughtful now |pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|petergill: West's @HQ lead fooled everyone|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg||
nt|sybarra: he led @H 10 |pg||
mc|10|nt|vugraphznt: NS claimed|pg||
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qx|o5|st||md|3SQJ96HKT9DQ862CK9,SA532HQJ63DA4CT63,SK7HA2DJT75CA7542,ST84H8754DK93CQJ8|sv|n|nt|jaapfr: a thin 3nt here|pg||
nt|jaapfr: if bid probably made|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=0+, often weak nt|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: toilet break|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry   max 15 HCP|pg||
nt|jaapfr: if 1nt S will definitely think about 3nt|pg||
mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: 1@D-1@S [4+@S, usually not game force]   then  either 1N[12-14] or 2@C|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: i thought 1N included good 14, so 2N seems like a stretch|pg||
nt|jaapfr: but 3nt has some communication problems|pg||
nt|kit: North could see the vulnerabity, but he knows his partner can see it also.  He has a minimum, so properly passes.|pg||
nt|kit: And just as well, since 3NT has no play on the heart lead.|pg||
nt|benjy:  if declarer wins this in hand and lead a low @D then east needs to win the king and play another @H to hold declarer to 8 tricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @H7 lead  2nd/4th|pg||
nt|jaapfr: if in S it had|pg||
nt|jaapfr: but agree 3nt by N with @H lead minmal chances to be made|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW play Reverse Smith vs NT  so not needed as count when declarer leads his suit   Lo =  I like @H lead|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|kit: Declarer worried about 5-3 heart split, but he has to go after diamonds and spades and hope defenders can't set up 6 tricks.|pg||
nt|benjy:  West might have held singleton ace of diamonds i suppose so it wasn't clear to go in|pg||
nt|kareno: But east needed to pop with the diamond for a second heart lead.|pg||
nt|kit: why?  he will get in later.|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
nt|benjy:  Yes with the diamond|pg||
nt|kit: and later has arrived.|pg||
nt|benjy:  and now a heart play will hold declarer to 8|pg||
nt|jaapfr: great defense the @D return|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nice continuation from Wooldridge|pg||
nt|kit: not much else he could play looking at that dummy is there?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: shouldn't do anything else, but we've all seen defenders panic and play back @C|pg||
nt|benjy:  These boys don't panic|pg||
nt|kit: and even if he does lead back a club, so what?|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|benjy:  If declarer was in 3NT and received a @H lead, if he plays on spades then west would have to win and switch to a low @D|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg||
nt|benjy:  all hypothetical though|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
nt|kit: Hurd sees that he can't defeat 2NT with heart continuation, so he plays his partner for A10xx of clubs|pg||
nt|jaapfr: now 9 tricks very possible|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|kit: who cares about  9 in 2NT|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|benjy:  Good defence doesn't always win imps but he played for the legitimate set|pg||
nt|jaapfr: thought the @H return seeing dummy was also obvious (after @DK) agree:)?|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s5|pc|dT|pc|d9|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|hT|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c7|pc|h5|pc|d8|pc|h6|pg||
mc|10|nt|kit: no, I don't agree.  I liked his club shift -- how else could he defeat 2NT?|pg||
nt|benjy:  I liked it too|pg||
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qx|c5|st||md|3SQJ96HKT9DQ862CK9,SA532HQJ63DA4CT63,SK7HA2DJT75CA7542,ST84H8754DK93CQJ8|sv|n|nt|ady: maany possible variations there|pg||
nt|rhelle: well played, in the end|pg||
nt|roswolf: niceof them:)|pg||
nt|ady: sorry   2 aces of    |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: NS like to play fast, |pg||
mb|1D|an|2+!D|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|rhelle: and a useful 13 IMPs reward|pg||
nt|sybarra: wk raise (preemptive)|pg||
mb|d|nt|petergill: @DJ had to be played smoothly, in totally normal tempo under @DQ, to try to convince S it was E's last @D. That's the only way 3NT might have gone down|pg||
nt|roswolf: i am tols on bd2 america likely to make 6@C|pg||
mb|2C|nt|frankaus: past my bedtime tu all 4 ur company|pg||
nt|sybarra: thx frank,  gn :) |pg||
nt|petergill: Good night Frank|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: gn|pg||
nt|ady: nite|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle: I can't see East bid. 3@s was bid under pressure|pg||
nt|roswolf: A TRUE CANAPE OPENING|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|petergill: 3@S was mildly conservative, after S's weak raise. 4@S was possible|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: it did and anothe 13 imps to team america as i predicted:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: very controlled auction |pg||
pc|s4|nt|ady: looks like 1 spade and 2 trump tricks    |pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
nt|rhelle: the 3@h bid proved very effective in stopping EW reach their cold game|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ady: 4@S   good contract    case for west to try 4@S    though cant say automatice|pg||
pc|hA|nt|petergill: Other room also in spade partscore|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pg||
nt|jcwla:  great article on 4-5 minors openings: http://www.districtsix.org/Articles/Article%202006-02.aspx   |pg||
pc|dJ|nt|rhelle: this switch does not paralyse declarer|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Drijver asked if they do it often bid 1NT with a 4crd Major|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg||
nt|wstuart: Well, the 4-5 minor opening here has no choice - NS are playing a strong @C so the @D is nebulous.|pg||
mc|10|nt|ady: club lead may beat 4@S    but inlikely to lead club|pg||
nt|wstuart: When N rebids 2@C, he shows longer @C than @D.|pg||
nt|roswolf: SOLID SCORE FOR TEAM AMERICA|pg||
pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4SA82HAJT85DQ3CA73,SJH93DAK942CQJT64,S97654HQ764DJ87CK,SKQT3HK2DT65C9852|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: good 14-17|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzns: wooldridge was thinking of bidding for a little while|pg||
mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: 2@H=a) @S weak/FG  b) 6@S, INV  d) 4@S & 6@C/@D, FG|pg||
nt|benjy:  Very dangerous to bid at this vul opposite a passed hand, but it could be right when pd has a big fit|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@S just denies  non-min with 4@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Apparently North can't bid 2@C Stayman on that sort of hand|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 4@H has good chances to be made on this layout but how to bid it:)?|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|jaapfr: better do not|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right Kit    1N-2@C//2@D    2@H=relay  2@S=5@S, INV|pg||
pc|cK|nt|benjy:  It's a terrible game|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 2@S less easy|pg||
nt|kit: He is fortunate that his partner has 3 spades.  If South had a doubleton spade, 2@S would be considerably worse than 2@H.|pg||
nt|benjy:  @H finesse and duck a spade perhaps?|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|jaapfr: would the majority nowadays open as S with 1nt or 1@H?|pg||
nt|kit: yes, I think that makes sense -- use the hand entry for a heart finesse.|pg||
nt|benjy:  1NT for me, if i was Italian then I would open 1@H|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h4|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sA|nt|jaapfr: the kibs are divided about 1nt or 1@H|pg||
pc|d2|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg||
nt|calabres: sorry caps|pg||
nt|kit: Now declarer won't even be able to afford to take the heart finesse, since he risks losing control if he ruffs a club back to his hand.|pg||
nt|kit: If he plays a spade, defense wins 2 spades, forces him, and he goes down if heart finesse off|pg||
nt|benjy:  was there any downside in finessing the @HK at trick 2, if @Hs were 3-1 then the chances are that a ruff would be taken with the long trump|pg||
nt|kit: oh sorry, miscounted his tricks.  He has to take heart finesse, and just hope it is on.|pg||
nt|benjy:  He has no choice now|pg||
nt|jaapfr: awful 2@S to declare (|pg||
nt|benjy:  Got into a bit of a pickle here|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|nt|benjy:  this is down now|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sK|nt|kit: In fact, he still has problems -- defense could hold off on the ruff, and he couldn't get to the long heart|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d9|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|d3|nt|kit: I'm surprised Hurd cashed the spade there|pg||
pc|c4|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d5|pc|hJ|pc|c6|pg||
nt|kit: good grief|pg||
mc|8|nt|jaapfr: this is amazing|pg||
nt|benjy:  wow east really played a club?|pg||
pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SA82HAJT85DQ3CA73,SJH93DAK942CQJT64,S97654HQ764DJ87CK,SKQT3HK2DT65C9852|sv|e|nt|rhelle: East's problem is that not vulnerable, West could have considerably less|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: kibs suggesting 3NT   might make       but would make     possible on the lay|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|rhelle: North may well pass this, with a doubleton @s|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|petergill: East's Pass of 3@S was very normal indeed|pg||
nt|wstuart: The Americans are not playing well, but they keep winning IMPs.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Grue answered only with like 8 HCP when he doesnt bid game after example 1@H-1@S-3@S|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|sybarra: 12 -14 nt doubtful|pg||
pc|d7|nt|rhelle: 1NT is very aggressive with the North hand|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d3|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@d would have been a reasonable alternative|pg||
nt|roswolf: west took a cautious view of his hand - quite rightly at these colors|pg||
nt|ady: looks ligh making 10 tricks|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|sybarra: system wise,  not sure|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3rd and 4th hand, the restrictions are lifted, as there are no more relays|pg||
nt|petergill: 1NT 12-15|pg||
pc|s4|nt|rhelle: a GOOD 12 :)|pg||
nt|sybarra: right,  sorry,  said 14 |pg||
nt|petergill: vul in 4th seat 1NT would be 14-15, not vul 12-15|pg||
nt|petergill: NS System Card http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Netherlands/muller-dewijs.pdf|pg||
nt|petergill: It looks like the @d ruff will hold them to 9 tricks, if West rises on the first heart - he may not|pg||
nt|rhelle: at first glance declarer looks to have 10 tricks. However, after the @d lead, he can choose to lose an extra trump or suffer a @d ruff|pg||
nt|rhelle: so I predict this contract will just scrpe in|pg||
nt|rhelle: *scrape*|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pg||
nt|petergill: West is thinking BOTH - do I play partner for a singleton @D - and - do I rise when a @H is led from dummy later?|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|h6|pc|c9|pg||
nt|petergill: hence West's very smooth low play on the 1st @H - it was the only chance to beat 3@H|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|s5|pc|c5|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|s2|pg||
mc|10|nt|ady: did not purse diamond trrick to discard a spade    but not imperative in 2 hearts|pg||
pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1S76HAJ965DQ653CT3,SJ98HK8743DKTC942,SK543HT2DJ8742CK5,SAQT2HQDA9CAQJ876|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: Kit has used that phrase quite a few times today|pg||
nt|kit: All Hurd had to do was not cash the good spade, and he would never have had a problem.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|benjy:  True, that was careless|pg||
nt|kit: This could be 1@H doubled in both rooms if South overcalls.|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: better pass with that imo|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|kit: No big swing anyway, since game is cold|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: just curious    what does North need to RDBL  after his passed hand partner bids 1@H and West converts to penalty?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|benjy:  not 10x in @H|pg||
nt|jaapfr: more important was that Verhees did not evaluate his hand to bid after 1@C|pg||
pc|d4|nt|benjy:  He was bidding over a strong @C in the other room. Personally I think 1@H is normal over a strong @C|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: brink - drijver do not play big club|pg||
nt|kit: Yes, you would think North would jump out of the frying pan in 1@H doubled -- after all, his partner didn't open a weak 2|pg||
nt|benjy:  Spec point out that 6@C makes, but you wouldn't want to be in it|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg||
nt|benjy:  well i would have passed it out, can't pd hold AQJ9x?|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg||
nt|benjy:  then running from 1@HX could be an apocalypse|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h5|pc|c9|nt|kit: My philosophy is that if 2 people at the table think we are going down and I am one of them, I run.|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|h6|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1S76HAJ965DQ653CT3,SJ98HK8743DKTC942,SK543HT2DJ8742CK5,SAQT2HQDA9CAQJ876|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|2+!C can have 4!D|nt|petergill: W doesn't care about the overtrick - he hoped declarer with @HK10xx slotted the ten on the first @H, playing for @HA offside because W might play @HA if he had it|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ady: in fact got the discard eventually|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|nt|roswolf: bd3 in other room 5@CX|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: many of heard the story before,  n/s system call tarzan club |pg||
mb|p|pc|c2|nt|rhelle: sorry - 1NT = GF relay|pg||
nt|petergill: EW System Card http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%202/hurd-wooldridge.pdf|pg||
nt|sybarra: wijs-muller,  looks like name of fellow who played Tarzan in the old movies |pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@d = @s or 3-suiter|pg||
nt|roswolf: blood will flow - the vampires gather|pg||
pc|c5|nt|rhelle: 2@h = relay|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2@s confirms the 3-suiter|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2NT = relay|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@d = 4-1-4-4 or 4-1-3-5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ady: need 800     in fact 6@C makes     though needs 2 finesses|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Lall was surprised by the @HQ|pg||
nt|roswolf: how the e/w cards are very handily placed perhaps even for slam|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|rhelle: North could relay more with 3@h, but slam is unlikely now|pg||
nt|petergill: An easy 3NT which makes in comfort|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|roswolf: however|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d2|nt|warrens:  looks like a good hand for a @C safety play: K, then low towards A9|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hT|nt|petergill: Team profile and photo for USA2 http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/usa2. Click on each player's name for their individual profile. |pg||
pc|s2|pc|h6|pg||
nt|ady: looks like 800     a probable loss of around 5 imps for USA|pg||
pc|s8|nt|roswolf: it looks -3 but will it be enough|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg||
nt|roswolf: bd 3 flat|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h5|pc|c9|nt|ady: hi   sorry  had computer problem|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h9|pc|s9|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h4|pc|d8|pc|sT|pg||
mc|4|pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2SJ3HK2DA5CAJT8753,SK975HT874DT8CK94,ST862HAJ96DKJ32C2,SAQ4HQ53DQ9764CQ6|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|benjy:  Would you guys X 2@C?|pg||
nt|kit: The negative double pushes South up to 3@C, but that should have no difficulty on the lie of the cards.|pg||
nt|kit: sure -- why not?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with both majors  --  why not make negative dbl??|pg||
nt|benjy:  well i wouldn't feel great if pd bid 3M|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 2@C+3 rather a lot of tricks|pg||
nt|kit: What bad can happen?  If I pass, partner might not be able to reopen if he is short in one of the majors.|pg||
nt|benjy:  him bidding 2@D isn't ideal or 3M|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 3nt makes but chances a priori much too small imo|pg||
nt|kit: Both sound ideal to me, and I would expect to make both|pg||
nt|ahollan1:  what is your plan after reopening DBL?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: but N considers 3nt bid|pg||
nt|jaapfr: imo=in my opinion|pg||
nt|benjy:  I would bid 2M after pd re-opened|pg||
nt|benjy:  Lots of comments from specs, mainly passers i think|pg||
nt|kit: 3NT makes sense actually, since if 3NT doesn't make 3@D might not either.  So might as well get paid a bonus if you can make 9 tricks.|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: he listened|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|calabres: :)|pg||
nt|kit: Passing is right only if 3NT goes down AND 3@C makes.  I don't like betting on parlays.|pg||
pc|sA|nt|benjy:  I think he had a really tough call over 3@C|pg||
nt|benjy:  He did well|pg||
nt|benjy:  Just a small plus point about not Xbling with the west cards, the opponents wouldn't bid game! :)|pg||
nt|kit: Yes, he did.  Somewhat lucky, but luck seems to follow those who bid close games.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if you follow Bridge World  Master Solvers' Club -- you could have predicted Kit's comments re: 3N|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s4|pc|c3|nt|kit: I disagree -- if West had passed, North might well have bid 2NT|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pg||
nt|benjy:  Really?|pg||
nt|granguru:  audaces fortuna juvat (Virgilius, Eneida IX)|pg||
nt|kit: yes, really.  Partner could have a pretty good hand, and if not who is to say 2NT isn't as good as 2@C?|pg||
nt|benjy:  I wouldn't bid 2NT|pg||
nt|granguru:  Sorry Eneide|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sT|pc|d6|pc|c5|pc|s9|pg||
nt|granguru:  Fortune favors the braves|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cJ|nt|calabres: true John|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 89-105|pg||
nt|benjy:  I think you are very optimistic Kit. Yes 2Nt may play as well but why push for game non vul?|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|nt|benjy:  Bidding 2NT over 2@C is not the same as bidding 3NT over 3@C|pg||
pc|h6|pc|cQ|pg||
mc|9|nt|benjy:  they are totally different scenarios|pg||
pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SJ3HK2DA5CAJT8753,SK975HT874DT8CK94,ST862HAJ96DKJ32C2,SAQ4HQ53DQ9764CQ6|sv|o|nt|petergill: After winning @DK, Joe Grue played @SQ to the ace, before doing the exact safety play in clubs which Warren recommended|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: als nay be a warning to the americans not to mess around too much on the future bds|pg||
nt|roswolf: also may|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Lall said they will bid this slam on the other table|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|an|5+!D or 4441!C|nt|ady: USA  would have to bid an against odds slam to gain on last one|pg||
nt|roswolf: agree but they seem to have the forse with them|pg||
nt|wstuart: I don't this will slow down the American's style at all.|pg||
mb|2C|nt|petergill: so Warren's point about the safety play is good - to protect against Q10xx in either hand|pg||
nt|petergill: 2@D invitational or better with clubs|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: force|pg||
nt|wstuart: The boys are bidders at both tables.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: but it can misfire|pg||
pc|dT|nt|wstuart: All of their matches have been total slugfests, if you will, in the bidding.|pg||
nt|ady: looks like 3NT missed here|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|nt|warrens:  laydown on a @H lead, but not so easy on a @S lead|pg||
nt|ady: this maif fail  on a spade lead|pg||
nt|rhelle: True - but I predict the @h10|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|sybarra: oh well commentators curse in action again |pg||
nt|ady: need to be a good guesser|pg||
nt|warrens:  do N/S play 4th best or attitude leads vs nt?|pg||
nt|petergill: Still very likely to make 3NT on @S lead, by playing towards @HQJx twice|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|nt|rhelle: they play better seeing 13 cards that I do with all 52 :)|pg||
pc|c2|nt|sybarra: lots of clubs played and discards not fun for n/s |pg||
nt|petergill: attitude leads to NT|pg||
nt|rhelle: interesting; there is a double @d finesse as well that can be taken|pg||
nt|petergill: so W does not know if @s are 4-4 or 5-3 - good point, Warren|pg||
nt|warrens:  with attitude leads this is much harder|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|roswolf: indeed - they certainly turn over the imps|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Bas looks like, come on Sjoert... |pg||
nt|ady: does need either KQ clubs onside   or doubleton honor   as defence do have 3 spade tricks|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s2|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|ady: there are lay outs where the defence have 4 spade trricks   but no this time|pg||
nt|roswolf: on bd 4 usa in 5! @H|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: they started teasing SJoert|pg||
pc|s7|nt|petergill: Yes indeed|pg||
pc|s8|nt|roswolf: in the other room|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
nt|rhelle: Yes, EW play attitude against NT, so declarer has no clue about North's @s length|pg||
nt|warrens:  now declarer hopes to learn something from the discards|pg||
nt|petergill: N can pitch 2 @h's and then one more card (=?) if clubs are run|pg||
nt|warrens:  one reasonable line is a @d to the 9, then try a @D to the Q the next time|pg||
nt|ady: likely to play diamond finesse   for contract|pg||
pc|d9|nt|petergill: NS System Card (attitude leads to NT is "low = like") http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Netherlands/muller-dewijs.pdf|pg||
nt|rhelle: well, 2 @h to QJ is 75%|pg||
nt|rhelle: @d to Q is 50%|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|ady: yes   that does cater for J10 diamonds onside   but in this case might go more down|pg||
nt|petergill: North not vul has passed over 1@C ---> 5 card suit a bit less likely|pg||
nt|rhelle: but that is only if you know @s are 4-4 ...|pg||
nt|warrens:  down more doesn't matter much non vul|pg||
nt|rhelle: remember kibitzers, NS play attitude leads. So the @s2 indicates an honour, not length|pg||
pc|h6|nt|petergill: I think W has deliberately timed his club cashing sequence so N has to discard twice before South discards --> N's problem a little bit tougher|pg||
pc|h3|nt|warrens:  @D to the 9, then to the Q is 62.5%, so a @H to the QJ means you're more than 80% sure N has only 4 @S's|pg||
nt|petergill: W from the attitude lead knows N has @SQxxx or @SQxxxx so he wants North to discard before S, as S has easy @s discards|pg||
nt|petergill: N has (cunningly?) kept his @H discard until last, to try to look more like a man with 5332 shape|pg||
nt|rhelle: the big strength of NS is their incredibly tight defence|pg||
nt|petergill: (I think) N knew he had to make 2 more discards, so he released the @D (less comfortable discard) before the @H, to make the position less clear to West. |pg||
nt|petergill: If S releases another @S, W can play @H safely unless N has @HAK |pg||
nt|ady: whats the betting here?|pg||
nt|rhelle: I'm going for -1 :)|pg||
nt|petergill: red card discard, else this makes easily|pg||
nt|rhelle: but I'm heavily biased|pg||
nt|petergill: I was wrong - spade discard ---> @S can rise @HA on @H of dummy |pg||
nt|petergill: NS first discard   odd = encourage|pg||
nt|rhelle: Yes, but taking those discards at face value is a direct route to the poorhouse|pg||
nt|petergill: @S point was right, because then @S have broken 4-4, so S cannot throw a @S|pg||
nt|petergill: NS UDCA with 1st discard odd encourage|pg||
nt|ady: 10@H lead in OR    so no problem|pg||
nt|warrens:  we can see by this auction that W's distribution is concealed, making it harder for the defense (and putting us to sleep as we wait)|pg||
nt|petergill: so N's @D6 and @S's @S3 discard were really telling declarer as little as possible|pg||
nt|ady: Netherlands might go in front |pg||
nt|rhelle: Muller is of course known for his phenomenal thinks|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
nt|rhelle: I've played with him a fair few times, and it takes getting used to. Saving grace is that he normally emerges with the right card|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3SAQJ742HQ764DA8C3,SKT9853HT5DJCKQ84,SHAJ2DKQ963CAJT92,S6HK983DT7542C765|sv|e|nt|kit: I didn't say 2NT was clear, and I probably would pass.  But I think it is very close.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: freaky @S here|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|6+!s, inv+|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=0+|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@H=INV+, 6+@S |pg||
nt|jaapfr: his pass was fast as lightning|pg||
mb|3C|nt|kit: I guess this shows a good hand with spades, which keeps West silent.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: INV+ = invitational [to game] or stronger|pg||
mb|3H|an|.|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|jaapfr: 3nt now|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|benjy:  The play from the other room doesn't seem to make sense|pg||
nt|benjy:  on a @H lead it looks as though it should have made|pg||
pc|s6|nt|benjy:  Oh it appears as though Joe did something very strange and paid for it|pg||
nt|kit: Hurd knows better than to make a pointless lead from a broken 4-card suit|pg||
nt|benjy:  He strangely led a club from hand|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|c2|pg||
nt|kit: Now Wooldridge has a difficult problem|pg||
nt|benjy:  I am told that Joe went wrong in the endgame, almost certainly due to tiredness at this stage|pg||
nt|kit: seems like declarer will come to 3 diamond tricks and 2 tricks in every other suit in most variations|pg||
nt|kit: I don't really see how there will be a problem for declarer|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg||
nt|kit: This return is logical|pg||
nt|kareno: rehi - got kicked off :(|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|jaapfr: ok 100-105|pg||
nt|kit: now declarer has the 9 top tricks I said by knocking oout king of hearts|pg||
nt|kit: and he is taking them|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 99-105|pg||
nt|kit: He might wind up with a squeeze on East in the red suits for an overtrick|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
nt|kit: If East comes back a club, declarer will have 3 club tricks.  If not, declarer can power home 4 diamond tricks.  So, looks like an overtrick eventually|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h7|nt|benjy:  Further info on the USA team can be found at http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/usa2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or acually see foreign city|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|h9|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|d6|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|jaapfr: ok just 10|pg||
pc|s8|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d8|pc|s9|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
pc|cA|mc|10|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SAQJ742HQ764DA8C3,SKT9853HT5DJCKQ84,SHAJ2DKQ963CAJT92,S6HK983DT7542C765|sv|e|nt|wstuart: Another actoin hand.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: made 5, Drijver, could have been 4, my mistake|pg||
mb|1C!|an|16+|mb|p|nt|rhelle: 1@c = 16+|pg||
nt|ady: cred it to  west wh survived a more difficult lead|pg||
nt|rhelle: Muller's pass = 6-8|pg||
nt|roswolf: this looks a possible nightmare for someone|pg||
nt|ady: another mis fit|pg||
mb|1S!|an|8+ 5+!S|nt|rhelle: So I think North will simply bid 4@s now|pg||
nt|ady: 4@S   good for n/s|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ady: vulnerabiity wrong for e/w save in 5@D|pg||
nt|roswolf: and on bd 4 team orange do gain 12 imps|pg||
mb|3C|an|asking for stop or nat|mb|p|nt|vugraphznt: Brink looking for a reason to play @CK...|pg||
mb|3S|an|6!S-4!H|mb|p|nt|warrens:  -1 on a @D to the K|pg||
nt|rhelle: This can go off if EW find their @c ruff|pg||
nt|ady: should go down now|pg||
nt|petergill: @D3 now to ask for the club ruff?|pg||
nt|ady: after a 2nd diamond   club normal play|pg||
nt|rhelle: I hear it did go off in the other room|pg||
nt|warrens:  I think so, and he's certainly not leading into the AQJ of @H's anyway|pg||
nt|grebrof: :)|pg||
mb|3N|an|!C+!D noow|mb|p|nt|petergill: It looks like a major card was led by the Dutch in the other room|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: was about last hand :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: Good overtake by West|pg||
nt|rhelle: Oh - it seems that East made a mistake in the endgame to let it make|pg||
nt|roswolf: if south bids on the artillery will start firng|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: North looks like to have minors|pg||
nt|wstuart: The lucky star the American EW were playing under burned out on board 4.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and south showed 6-4|pg||
pc|h9|nt|vugraphznt: EW lead attitude against NT|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 9 can be H98 or HH98, |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: So East denies the @H10 and always has an honour|pg||
nt|roswolf: well that could win the worst lead of the year award|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|nt|jcwla:  EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Netherlands/Brink-Drijver.pdf |pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|ady: not good communications   but seems should make|pg||
nt|jcwla:  NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%202/grue-lall.pdf |pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|nt|petergill: Other table - apparently East let a @H go on the run of the spades|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|rhelle: well, this @h switch seals it|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Open room video feed: http://www.wkbridge2011.com/en/live |pg||
nt|roswolf: declarer has the tempo|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Running scores: http://bridgewinners.com/ |pg||
nt|jcwla:  Tourney website: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Veldhoven.htm |pg||
pc|c9|pc|c7|nt|rhelle: great switch!|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|roswolf: west will run out of exit cards|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
nt|rhelle: as it breaks communication between declarer's hand and dummy|pg||
nt|petergill: airtight defence by the young Americans|pg||
pc|d8|nt|jcwla:  USA2 team profile: http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/usa2 |pg||
nt|jcwla:  Netherlands team profile: http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/netherlands |pg||
pc|c8|nt|vugraphznt: Grue asks about present count; Drijver; upside down|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|s2|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|s4|pc|cK|pg||
pc|sT|pc|d6|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|d9|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s3|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|s8|pc|c2|pg||
mc|8|nt|wstuart: nice play by east|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Grue; Sorry sorry sorry|pg||
pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SKQJ965HJ7DQ75CQ4,ST72HAQ8DAK3CT982,S843HKT9532D2CAK6,SAH64DJT9864CJ753|sv|b|nt|kit: What happened for declarer to go down was pretty remarkable.  Too complicated to explain, but worth looking at the movie to see -- unexpected end position.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|an|10-15 4+!s, can have longer other|nt|ahollan1: 1@S=4+|pg||
nt|benjy:  http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/netherlands for the NED team|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: if 2nd suit it is ALWAYS longer|pg||
nt|jaapfr: in @S 10 tricks but will they bid|pg||
mb|2D!|an|any inv|nt|jaapfr: now they will|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|an|5/6!s|nt|ahollan1: 2@D=ART INV  a) 3/4@S  b) NT  c) 3@H/@S & 6@C/@D|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: hard to imagine not bidding it -- North has great hand opposite some decent hand with spade suit.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@S could be 5(332)|pg||
pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: or  6+@S|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: 2@s also showing min, if 6@s very min|pg||
nt|jaapfr: shouting kibs (Dutch I must admit) that they have some good boards coming|pg||
nt|benjy:  Check out the lead in the other room|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS CC  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Netherlands/vanprooijen-verhees.pdf   but it doesn't give you all of the details|pg||
nt|benjy:  Brink underled both @D honours at trick 1, hoping to get pd in to lead a @H through|pg||
nt|benjy:  Quite a position to take|pg||
nt|benjy:  Cost the overtrick on this deal|pg||
nt|kit: The dummy wasn't exactly what he was hoping for :)|pg||
nt|kit: Of course his partner did open 2@D|pg||
pc|c2|nt|benjy:  Sorry ignore my comments, his pd appears to have opened a weak 2 in @Ds so it was far more normal|pg||
nt|benjy:  A great try|pg||
nt|benjy:  and the right lead in my opinion but how many would find it?|pg||
nt|benjy:  I am told that there are some very good results for the Netherlands coming up, so hold on to your seats|pg||
nt|kit: I don't think it is right lead.  Partner figures to have another high card holding only QJ of diamonds, so cashout not likely to be necessary.|pg||
pc|c6|nt|benjy:  I think pd will hold the Q@D 90% of the time and when it is necessary to lead a @H through south then the lead is correct|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|kareno: Nice defense including that last play by Drijver on the 3nt hand.|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|s3|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|dQ|nt|kit: You could be right|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: near end of all Playoffs   BB; Italy over USA1 by 92 with 2 to play    VC:TIED   Senior:Poland over USA1 +64 2 to play|pg||
pc|c7|pc|sJ|pc|cT|pc|h2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|d8|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|h3|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg||
nt|jaapfr: yes 6 out of 12 finalists were all USA 1 and 2 teams|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SKQJ965HJ7DQ75CQ4,ST72HAQ8DAK3CT982,S843HKT9532D2CAK6,SAH64DJT9864CJ753|sv|b|mb|2D|nt|morales1: better play Q@h|pg||
mb|2S|nt|wstuart: the @HA was fatal|pg||
mb|3D|mb|4D!|nt|ady: chance for Netherlands here|pg||
mb|p|an|EW both half alerted|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ady: small slam missed by USA in OR|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|rhelle: Now North must have visions of slam. The @hK is almost cetainly right|pg||
nt|roswolf: bd 5  2 imps to team orange 2nt+2|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ady: Muller may not value diamond strength  so could be missed here as well|pg||
nt|petergill: Bd 25 For those who think that Bd 25 went down in both rooms, the Bridgemate says Joe Grue made 420, ref http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/...|pg||
nt|petergill: RunningScores/ASP/BoardacrossConditKO.asp?qboard=025.02.FF.885|pg||
nt|rhelle: wow. 5@c is great - North will sure add one more|pg||
nt|petergill: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/BoardacrossConditKO.asp?qboard=025.02.FF.885|pg||
nt|sybarra: 5 clubs does not help pard does it?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: yes Brink really lead @D3|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm an imaginative lead are you sure gerbrand?|pg||
pc|d5|nt|vugraphznt: Lall; ok....|pg||
pc|dA|nt|sybarra: oh well skip that |pg||
nt|ady: yes   he has|pg||
nt|warrens:  well done|pg||
pc|s3|nt|rhelle: and claim. 6@c, 5@s, @hAce|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and plays on :=|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|nt|ady: 13 to Netherlands    much needed at this stage|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|s4|pc|d4|pg||
nt|roswolf: long event and still 5 sessions to go!|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Brink: trallalal|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|h7|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
mc|11|nt|vugraphznt: Drijver: Made 5? I hope...|pg||
pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1SQJ98763HD86CQ543,S2HKJ82DA973CJT92,ST54HQT94DKT52CK6,SAKHA7653DQJ4CA87|sv|o|nt|jaapfr: semi finalists|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in venice cup USA2 / USA1  1st/2nd in round robin  but both lost in quarter final|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|kit: In closed room N-S took 4@S save.  The save had one major flaw.|pg||
nt|benjy:  Everyone open 4S here guys?|pg||
nt|kareno: I like the shape for it.|pg||
nt|benjy:  I would I admit|pg||
nt|kit: But will Wooldridge pass the double!|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 4 out of 12 and 6 out of 24 tx for correcting|pg||
nt|benjy:  Mixed opinions from the specs|pg||
nt|kit: If he doesn't, the 4@S opening much better in other room than in this one :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: pass is easier at these color, isn't it?|pg||
nt|kareno: We call that south hand, "La Cosa Nostra" ... The Black Hand :)|pg||
nt|kit: Not easy pass at any colors, particularly if the double is defined as takeout|pg||
nt|jaapfr: imho it shows that in a decade or so we will have simular rules about Europe 1 and Europe 2|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Europe 1 & 2  would drastically reduce number of European teams|pg||
nt|jaapfr: sure|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this year 7 teams from europe   normal 6 + 1 for host country|pg||
nt|benjy:  I think pass is right looking at a couple of likely defensive tricks|pg||
nt|kareno: And no long suit.  That shape is better for defending IMO.|pg||
nt|benjy:  If anyone wants to know more about how the USA2 team qualified for the Bermuda Bowl then have a look here http://www.confsudbridge.org/torneos/finalusa2i.aspx |pg||
nt|jaapfr: tough for W but at the end i think he will pass here|pg||
nt|kit: Personally I play doubles of 4@S and higher are penalty oriented so don't have this sort of problem, but I know that I am in the minority on this.|pg||
nt|kareno: For the specs, IMO means In My Opinion|pg||
nt|kareno: The higher the preempt, the more the double is for business.  |pg||
nt|calabres: I bet he pass|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: all other players almost falling asleep at the table|pg||
nt|benjy:  Verhees and Hurd look like they have both nodded off :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: bets on kibs: pass or any other bid here:)?|pg||
nt|kareno: 4nt here by east would mean 'two places to play.'|pg||
nt|rhelle: 4NT from West is also a possibility|pg||
nt|jaapfr: some 30 bets but most say 4nt|pg||
nt|calabres: 4NT is an option|pg||
nt|benjy:  I am willing to admit it might be wrong but for me thats a pass|pg||
nt|ahollan1: take the plus|pg||
nt|kit: if it is a plus -- you can't be so sure it is|pg||
nt|benjy:  As usual i am getting 5000 opinions on the matter|pg||
nt|kareno: I hate 4-4-4-1 - it never plays as well as other distributions even with a fit.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4441  less offensive power than most think|pg||
nt|jaapfr: my screen is full blue (RTIEN NE VA PLUS PLS:)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: RIEN|pg||
nt|jaapfr: and no money bets accepted|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this brings to mind a great quote   "sometimes preempts work"|pg||
nt|rhelle: interesting is always if the long think actually increases the quality of the decision|pg||
nt|kareno: Mine as well.  Specs, we cannot answer each and every comment of yours.|pg||
nt|benjy:  sorry 7000 opinions|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: only one said : redouble|pg||
nt|calabres: I won|pg||
nt|jaapfr: creative|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: audience applauding here as wooldridge finally made a bid :)|pg||
nt|kareno: What you really want is a partner who, if he thinks a long time, comes up with the right answer :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i could be rich now:)|pg||
pc|cT|nt|ahollan1: hideous hog:  if you're going to do the wrong thing ... do it quickly|pg||
pc|c6|nt|benjy:  Perhaps he was thinking about what to lead :)|pg||
nt|kit: Yes, the opening lead is far from clear.  Fortunately from his point of view it is unlikely to matter.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: a fast pass does not generate any applause (wise man Wooldridge:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: rusinow leads vs suit   2nd of touching honors|pg||
pc|c8|nt|kareno: Good comment by a spec:  I'm always worried when my partner thinks, on the other hand I'm worried if he does not.|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|h2|pc|s5|pg||
nt|jaapfr: seems CR ready|pg||
nt|jaapfr: finished|pg||
pc|hA|pc|sJ|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d8|nt|ahollan1: 2 to score   Venice Cup Playoff   Netherlands over England by 9|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: Nie wiem, czy Pan zauwa¿y³, ze dla g³upich - seniorów, kobiet - sa tu osobne nigrzyska?|pg||
nt|benjy:  Wooldridge had to duck the @d but thats normal for down 2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|c4|pc|hK|pg||
mc|8|nt|benjy:  In fact he could have won it and played a club|pg||
nt|kit: what difference does it make whether Wooldridge ducks or not?|pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: Sorry - priv...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now up 15  sorry about that|pg||
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qx|c11|st||md|1SQJ98763HD86CQ543,S2HKJ82DA973CJT92,ST54HQT94DKT52CK6,SAKHA7653DQJ4CA87|sv|o|nt|sybarra: back within  a game swing |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Simon showed his cards and claimed...|pg||
nt|ady: easy 4@S for e/w|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Brink.. Me too|pg||
nt|roswolf: this could be wild|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Lall had to stop himself from laughing when he took @DQ|pg||
mb|4S|an|wide range style|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|petergill: The 15 round Transnational Qualifying Stage has qualified the top 16 teams at http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeam...|pg||
nt|petergill: sConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=884 |pg||
nt|roswolf: into the jungle|pg||
nt|wstuart: Why bid 3@S when 4 is available!  :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=884|pg||
mb|p|pc|h8|nt|petergill: into 24 board R16 matches|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: dbl was t/o|pg||
nt|wstuart: I'm surprised Grue didn't raise to 5.|pg||
pc|hT|nt|roswolf: i play if you bid here you seriously think you will make your contract otherwise you pass and pray:)|pg||
pc|hA|nt|wstuart: (kidding)|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|nt|ady: 3 red suit trick     3rd diamond discarded on 4th club  after trumps drawn|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|petergill: Monaco Z: Balicki - Zmudzinski and Helgemo - Helness came 28th, did not qualify, in the Transnational|pg||
nt|ady: 1st round of trumps  won by ace or queen   caters for 4-0 split either side|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: ok, this is the point we are now! all scores are correct and we will continue broadcasting|pg||
nt|hedyg:  well done Vincent !!|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|nt|wstuart: -2 on we go.|pg||
nt|ady: yes|pg||
pc|h2|nt|rhelle: the @h8 is mild suit preference ... hence the @d lead|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c3|nt|roswolf: this is junior bridge at the HIGHEST level - as a spec says - i agree its bridge jim but not as we know it|pg||
pc|cT|pc|sT|pc|c7|pg||
nt|bbramley: hello again - while we were gone netherlands picked up 2 vul games swings vs. 1 NV game swing for USA2|pg||
nt|sybarra: good very early morning from Washington DC,  hello Bart |pg||
nt|bbramley: the play of the @S10 was unusual in that it might cost a trick if south started with Qx or Jx, but could gain if south started with Qxx or Jxx|pg||
nt|bbramley: but this deal was about the @DK:  if it was offside then he was probably going down|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|s3|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|d2|pc|h6|pg||
mc|8|nt|vugraphznt: Lall just asked ace of @D?|pg||
pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|n|nt|benjy:  If he rose and played a diamond then th suit was coming in|pg||
nt|kit: exactly, although of course ducking is correct|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm told change in score from director|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in ladies playoff|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|jaapfr: not yet down 2@S|pg||
pc|h4|nt|benjy:  top @H lead and now he has to decide whether to play on @Cs or @Ds|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg||
nt|jaapfr: but definitely not yet made either:)|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|nt|benjy:  !JH suit pref here?|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|jaapfr: good start by defense|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|kit: very good start, but pretty normal.  Once diamond suit is killed, declarer won't have anything.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: but now there is a small chance|pg||
nt|benjy:  If declarer plays a @H and west another @D will he rise ace?|pg||
nt|benjy:  after the @HJ and @D to the queen he prob should|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: seems as though verhees actually 'unblocked'  the @d10|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg||
nt|jaapfr: no entry now to refinesse @S|pg||
nt|kit: odd he didn't play a heart there -- maybe hoping queen of hearts will be later entry for another spade finesse|pg||
nt|jaapfr: so likely -1 too|pg||
nt|kit: he never had a second entry -- that's the point.|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|s3|pg||
nt|benjy:  I don't think he was making, but I agree with Kit it was odd not to play a @H|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|d5|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|kit: I think it was a good play actually -- gives defense chance to make mistake, and queen of hearts really of no value|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|n|nt|vugraphznt: Wooldridge asked for the timekeeper... in the room now..|pg||
mb|1H|nt|bbramley: wooldridge knew he could probably claim, but there might have been a club ruff out there|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Lall was very disappointed @S weren't blocked|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ady: n/s  hands too flat to be in game|pg||
mb|2S|nt|rhelle: Actually, the 1@h opening on substandard values may help NS in staying low|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: more likely e/w could make game in hearts    but 4 losers with A@D wrong|pg||
nt|rhelle: 2NT = 4-card limit raise|pg||
nt|petergill: I think they have 40 minutes for 5 hands - in my opinion, South has been the slowest player at this table|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: I think the 1 @C alert is "could be 2" |pg||
pc|hA|nt|bbramley: i'll have to get up to speed on the N/S system - not sure exactly what the bids mean - looks sort of like Polish so far|pg||
nt|sybarra: but he always is slow |pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg||
nt|sybarra: and that might e also Bart |pg||
nt|bbramley: i think 1@D=0-7, then natural|pg||
nt|bbramley: if so, i'm a little surprised south did not upgrade to a positive with his good suit|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 1@S was asking. 1@D was or 0-7 or something with both majors or a 3rd option i dont anymore|pg||
nt|rhelle: with 3@d, North shows values. South opts to defend, so North is happy with that|pg||
nt|ady: so the USA in game in both rooms  and more imps for Netherlands|pg||
nt|rhelle: Yes, this looks like -1 and 6 IMPs to NL|pg||
nt|petergill: For the Transnational, the format in yesterday's Daily Bulletin (number 11) overrules any format on the website|pg||
nt|ady: 6 imps   so close to 6 imps behind|pg||
pc|d7|nt|ady: unfortunately 4@H should fail last hand e/w   and 3NT|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|nt|rhelle: South should now play the @sK, in case declarer needs to find the @cQ|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|nt|bbramley: OK - 1@S forced 1NT, then 2@H was a transfer|pg||
nt|bbramley: so he transferred to play the hand himself :)|pg||
nt|sybarra: this might be a bit difficult to handle |pg||
pc|c4|nt|petergill: Daily Bulletin 11 says 24 board R16 matches in Transnational. Bull 11 also has interesting article about the massive preparation by Indonesia Ladies for this event ref pages 28 and ...|pg||
nt|petergill: 15 I think, at http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Bulletins.asp|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h7|nt|rhelle: Clever @sQ by North - he's hiding the Ace|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|wstuart: It's possible for the Dutch to win 6 on the last board.  4@H -1 will be -50.|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|nt|bbramley: he'd like about 5 entries to his own hand, but he's a little short of that|pg||
pc|d9|nt|petergill: Bd 25 here on BBO has been scored the same way it is scored (10 imp swing) on the WBF website and thus on the Bridgemate as scored by the players.  |pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|sybarra: thought he might pitch |pg||
nt|bbramley: the clubs are good, which would let him throw a small card in each red suit, but that would have conceded down 1|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|c2|pc|h2|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|s3|pc|d6|pg||
nt|bbramley: so instead he's ruffed up, which will fail as well because west's trumps are too good|pg||
nt|sybarra: or too many anyway |pg||
nt|bbramley: yes :)|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cT|nt|wstuart: Win 8 I mean - -300 and -50|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|bbramley: but even if remaining trumps were 2-2 the fifth club would promote the setting trick|pg||
nt|roswolf: team america reportedly very slow in the other room|pg||
pc|c8|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|d5|pg||
pc|hT|pc|s8|pc|sQ|nt|sybarra: playing 1 nt would be no picnic either, as S hand has no entries |pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|d8|pc|s6|pg||
pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2C!|an|tf !D|nt|rhelle: 4@h in the closed room. That seems a bit high|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Verhees can't overcall 1N  that is conventional  Raptor Convention|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: in this case  1N would show  4@H and 5+@C/@D|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2 of the Dutch pairs play Raptor|pg||
nt|jaapfr: if he had played @CK sooner and then @S after xDA then he would have made it (W to give the 8th) I think not easy but W could give 2nd entry (pls kibs check in review if that is ...|pg||
nt|jaapfr: correct?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Verhees 2N just says  Strong NT|pg||
nt|benjy:  I think you need great judgement with 15-17 bal if you play raptor as you X first then have to try and describe your hand later|pg||
nt|kit: 4@H is pretty reasonable contract, particularly with East opening the bidding.  Too bad king of diamonds offside.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i had good results with Raptor NT overcall --- but Ben is spot on -- auctions where you have to DBL with Strong NT are brutal|pg||
nt|kit: what exactly is Raptor?|pg||
nt|benjy:  Can you make 4@H if you pick the @Cs?|pg||
nt|kareno: With the 2@c (diamonds) bid, you can suspect it is off.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: over Major   Raptor  shows  4other major  and 5+either minor|pg||
nt|ahollan1: over minor  Raptor =  4either major  and 5+ other minor|pg||
nt|benjy:  i think he might make 4@H here|pg||
nt|kit: Makes sense over 1 of minor opening, but don't see it over 1 major opening since double shows 4 of other major anyway|pg||
nt|benjy:  he knows the @Ds are 5-1 so he won't take the finesse and will rely on bringing in the @Cs for 4 tricks|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s2|nt|kit: Yes, the 2@C call showing diamonds will keep him from taking the diamond finesse, so he has a shot.|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|sT|pc|d5|pc|s7|pc|sK|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s9|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|d7|pg||
nt|kareno: I can see seven tricks going after clubs.  Can't see eight.  Only six this way I think.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|d8|pg||
pc|s4|pc|dQ|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|d2|pc|cJ|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|b|nt|rhelle: Good effort by the USA, reaching 6@s on the NS hands|pg||
nt|wstuart: How can you call them slow?  They have played 6 whole boards in 80 minutes.  :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|sybarra: should be doable right?|pg||
nt|ady: good spade slam on 11 card fit|pg||
nt|rhelle: I'd say, looking at the sequence in the other room, that the result justifies the means :)|pg||
nt|sybarra: 2-3-6... |pg||
nt|wstuart: OK, they did start 10 minutes later than this table, to be fair.|pg||
mb|1N|nt|sybarra: pussilanemous bid by S |pg||
nt|ady: east has nice hand  but will not be able to buy tje hand under the 7 level|pg||
mb|2S|nt|sybarra: maybe 10 of @H as only entry |pg||
nt|rhelle: 4@s is a bit pessimistic though|pg||
nt|ady: maybe expecting further action  |pg||
mb|3D!|an|!H|nt|sybarra: pussilanemous is the word,  "weak in the knees"  timid etc |pg||
nt|rhelle: Unless Muller is playing a deep game|pg||
nt|ady: tranfer to hearts?|pg||
nt|wstuart: This is likely an inv+ xfr to @H/|pg||
nt|wstuart: Generally attributed to Jeff Rubens, often called Rubensohl (or transfer Lebensohl by some).|pg||
mb|3H!|nt|bbramley: very light opening - in the modern style, or a very old-fashioned style, if you will - his hand qualifies easily by losing trick count, if not by honor count|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|bbramley: this is a poor setup for the N/S methods - north has been preempted into showing his second suit at a high level|pg||
nt|sybarra: maybe he wants to get doubled in 6 spades |pg||
nt|rhelle: no XX?|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: or 5 ?|pg||
nt|warrens:  wow, a striped tale X|pg||
nt|sybarra: no XX,  "we" are happy |pg||
nt|ady: good value for australians|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: stripe tail ape...preventing 6 sp bid|pg||
nt|petergill: 1050 to 1430 = 9 imps|pg||
nt|ady: Brink has a pretty useless hand for spades  especially on ace king and another spade opening|pg||
nt|wstuart: South surely has a dead maximum for his 14-16 1NT opening.  Facing the inv+ xfr, he has a clear 4@H bid.|pg||
nt|ady: this will fil   so dutch will dow ok here|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|vugraphznt: Grue: good luck, this time I mean it...|pg||
nt|ady: fail|pg||
nt|wstuart: It was a 1NT overcall, so he's not at a max.|pg||
nt|wstuart: Still, he has a fine hand with a fit, nice controls and a 5 card suit.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Brink has no idea if he is on time.. he asked they have 55 min for those last boards|pg||
pc|s6|nt|bbramley: of course, it's usually a poor setup to have a light opener into a misfit|pg||
nt|sybarra: but sometimes pards clubs are more like his spade suit |pg||
pc|s2|nt|sybarra: or spade suit is more like the club suit I should say |pg||
nt|bbramley: yes - opening on distro is always optimistic, hoping for a fit|pg||
nt|sybarra: and you probably roll for 6 spades|pg||
nt|bbramley: he has 3 trumps to lose and the @H ace off the top, and there may be a handling charge|pg||
nt|sybarra: the taps maybe the difficulty |pg||
nt|bbramley: although if he runs some diamonds, west may be tempted to compromise his trump holding (but i doubt he will)|pg||
nt|sybarra: bd 12, 2 @S only went down 1 in other room,  for 3 imps |pg||
nt|bbramley: USA2 nibbling away...|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|h5|nt|sybarra: and we have a looooooooooooonggg way to go |pg||
pc|h7|pc|h3|nt|ady: Hurd may have tht diamond defensive with west   and only 4@S from Muller    |pg||
nt|rhelle: Now North will reason that EW have a @c fit - and that West will have the @d. So he'll pay a @d to the 10|pg||
nt|sybarra: gee they split 1/1 |pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|bbramley: from declarer's perspective, all he needs is 3-3 trumps and a winning guess|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|nt|sybarra: yes give W the East cards and probably home |pg||
nt|sybarra: (the spade cards)  |pg||
nt|bbramley: other room stopped in 2@S and made 140, so this should be 6 imps more for USA2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
nt|ady: hoping to bring in club suit   and lose 1 club and 2 hearts|pg||
nt|ady: thats is the end of that|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|h9|nt|rhelle: but what did East double on? Even at my level, this is suspect|pg||
nt|petergill: Redbl ---> 1600 to 1430 = 5 imps the other way, I think|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|bbramley: this room has finally slowed down enough to let the other room get ahead - that will give us comparisons :)|pg||
pc|c9|nt|warrens:  on a XX, wouldn't Hurd reconsider?|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|c8|nt|roswolf: BD3 1@hx-3 team america scored 660 on 3nt+2 so 4 imps to the home team|pg||
nt|roswolf: nd7 i meant|pg||
nt|roswolf: bd7|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|h4|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|kit: Good 61S, which should be trivial to bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|curtis: scary migraine...think it must be hormones yesterday and today...|pg||
nt|benjy:  Decent slam here|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|kit: more than decent|pg||
nt|benjy:  Excellent? Fabulous?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we saw earlier that they use 3M+1 to ask for shortness|pg||
nt|kit: Here comes the feared exclusion RKC I predict|pg||
mb|3N!|mb|p|mb|4H!|an|short !h|nt|jaapfr: 4nt is ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: 3nt|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and step responses of   none, low, hi|pg||
nt|kit: As we have seen, this asks for shortrness -- and 4@H shows heart shortness|pg||
nt|kit: But what good does knowing East's shortness do?|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: great question -- why not 3@H rebid from Hurd?|pg||
nt|kit: you've got to be kidding me|pg||
nt|benjy:  Wow, this has not been a good set for e/w slam bidding|pg||
pc|cT|nt|benjy:  I am amazed at the 4@S sign off|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|o|mb|1C|an|2+!C may have 4!D|mb|2H|nt|petergill: Redbl would almost certainly go P P 6@C or 5NT by East, then what happens next = I know not|pg||
nt|ady: must have been a diamond lead  for 12 tricks in spades|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yes @D led|pg||
nt|petergill: I wonder what 5@S would mean now? Natural, strong slam suggestion?|pg||
nt|ady: I am told it was|pg||
nt|drewsky: Its good to have an agreement what the meaning of 4@S is by west|pg||
mb|2S|nt|roswolf: and another 6 to the dutch on bd 8 - they bid and made 3nt|pg||
nt|wstuart: The dutch would be ahead by 2 now if not for the 18 IMP swing on board 2 where teh Americans bid approx a 2% slam which came in.|pg||
mb|4H|nt|rhelle: even so, nasty problem for West. It could be anything, from 4@s to 7@s|pg||
nt|roswolf: this match is tightening nicely -(for us neutrals)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Drijver taking a postion  for a long thought|pg||
nt|roswolf: that weak2 by south is a hippy bid if ever i saw one|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Drijer sighs a few times|pg||
nt|ady: will get to 6@S   iam sure|pg||
nt|roswolf: in a sense unlucky his pard is so weak|pg||
nt|wstuart: I like the 2@H preempt there.  He has good intermediates and virtually no def outside.|pg||
nt|ady: I  very much doubt pass|pg||
mb|5H|an|slam try with !H cuebid|mb|p|nt|rhelle: Nor th wil certainly lead the @cA|pg||
nt|petergill: 11 imps to Netherlands, surely|pg||
nt|ady: that  very ambitius  with void heart|pg||
nt|sybarra: look in movie,  it was club lead|pg||
nt|petergill: Perhaps 5@S would be voidwood (void spade, loking for 7@H), so West's choices were 4@S and 6@S - a guess. |pg||
nt|ady: as long as they dont bid 7|pg||
mb|5N|nt|warrens:  needs to lead @C Ace or a @S|pg||
nt|rhelle: However, North's second card will be problematic. If it's a @d, it's made|pg||
nt|sybarra: everyone says @D,  my movie shows club |pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: 4@S after long tht or no long tht  west would surely pass|pg||
mb|6S|nt|sybarra: will S try 3 @H?|pg||
nt|bbramley: yes|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: I would win the trump and put N to the test by playing @CK at Trick 2|pg||
nt|warrens:  now, N has to rise on a small @C lead from W, which I think is easy to do looking at dummy's @H's|pg||
nt|sybarra: sorry bd 30 a diamond |pg||
nt|ady: mine shows a diamond|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra: the E hand looks like the ones I have been holding recently |pg||
nt|bbramley: none vul is best for competing - i'm surprised he didn't, altho he already bid twice and his partner was there|pg||
nt|sybarra: enough!! |pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: yes - when i was a hippy at university abd did something silly like this against Boris Schapiro - he called it a hippy bid and said i would learn someday - never forgot that|pg||
nt|wstuart: Well everyone, I have to go play live bridge myself now.  Have fun and we'll see you tomorrow (or late tonight for those of us on the west coast of the US.)|pg||
pc|hA|nt|rhelle: This is though|pg||
nt|ady: bye|pg||
pc|h8|nt|ady: tricky   must play ace|pg||
nt|rhelle: very well played!|pg||
nt|ady: abd must resist diamond|pg||
nt|ady: yes|pg||
nt|ady: north was awake|pg||
nt|petergill: @CK at Trick 2 could be a singleton king so might be taken, whereas the low club is more certain to draw the unwelcome ace (if @DK was onside)|pg||
nt|rhelle: South played the @c9, an even number|pg||
nt|warrens:  no way he'll play a @D.  W can't have been missing both minor aces|pg||
nt|rhelle: So my money is on another @c, to try and cut communications|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|nt|bbramley: looks like down a couple, but still a good save vs. the 140 that south could make in hearts|pg||
nt|sybarra: and the OR made 4 |pg||
nt|sybarra: W always on lead, to probably gives a trick somewhere |pg||
nt|bbramley: they may have gotten desperate trying to beat 3|pg||
nt|sybarra: to=so |pg||
nt|rhelle: both a @c and a @c are good - even a @h works as West can't get rid of 3 @ds|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s3|pg||
nt|roswolf: this has just propelled e/w to slam - i trust south has flowers in his hair:)|pg||
nt|ady: declaration very soon|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|n|nt|benjy:  Netherlands take the lead|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|kit: We have seen that their jump raise can be pretty light, but even so ....|pg||
nt|jaapfr: the tension is mounting and promises a fine 2nd day tomorrow|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Netherlands in the lead!|pg||
mb|1N!|an|5+!d, 4M|nt|ahollan1: they started with 1 imp carryover  so  effectively  tied match|pg||
mb|2C|nt|jaapfr: b16 will be the last of today|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Raptor strikes |pg||
mb|3C!|nt|ahollan1: 4 either major  and 5+@D|pg||
mb|5C|nt|ahollan1: and in other room  Raptor by the other Dutch pair|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i've never seen that before|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: this can easily go wrong for NS|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@C a good hand   not sure if it said anything more than that|pg||
nt|jaapfr: did not expect W to bid 5@C sorry|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hQ|nt|benjy:  I assume south would have driven to game knowing pd held @D plus a major|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: good hand looking for major   versus  3@H which would be pass/correct|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but i'm just guessing|pg||
nt|kit: West decided that opponents likely had a game and 5@C would be a decent save.  Understandable -- but on this hand I'm not so sure 4@S would have handled.|pg||
nt|rhelle: of course West was expecting 4@h rather than 4@s|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|nt|jaapfr: 2 reasons I am not shouting when Dutch do win a board: 1. We must be impartial and 2. I am personally also a big fan of  USA2 after commentating almost all thier matches last 12 ...|pg||
nt|jaapfr: days|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
nt|kit: I do like the 5@C call -- much more likely to be a decent save and maybe cause opponents to misjudge than to be a phantom|pg||
pc|d9|pc|c9|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|dT|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg||
mc|9|nt|ahollan1: from the auction  it was clear that nobody knew who could make what|pg||
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qx|c15|st||md|1SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|n|nt|petergill: so S's @C9 meant that N knew that W had @CKxx|pg||
nt|sybarra: as he should be!|pg||
nt|rhelle: yes, that is predictable|pg||
nt|petergill: It was S who erred, not N|pg||
nt|roswolf: team orange wearing the sober suits|pg||
mb|1D!|an|2+!D|mb|1N!|an|5+!C 4M|nt|bbramley: well done - he made it - now that's a good save - so 7 imps and new leader|pg||
nt|ady: I am sure they would have bid a slam  slowly or quickly|pg||
mb|2C!|an|5+!D |mb|3C|nt|rhelle: Yes, of course, sorry ... the 9 is an ODD number|pg||
nt|roswolf: you never know david - momentum of the auction is relevant|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|rhelle: whereas South had an EVEN number of Clubs|pg||
nt|roswolf: south's imagination is working overtime if he thought about bidding here|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@C is something more than 5+@D but couldn't read what was written|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|sybarra: this should make |pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: perhaps spades as well|pg||
mb|4C|nt|warrens:  So, South meant the 9 to show a @H card and N took it as an odd number|pg||
nt|drewsky: It all depends on their defensive agreements...if the 9 of @C was count, then south erred. However, many experts us tend to play suit prefernce|pg||
nt|rhelle: fortunately, NS will sit out the next session|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: I think N played W for AKQJxxxxx void x Kxx, but that seems unlikely on the bidding - but he has to trust his partner's count card|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|ady: 3@D  making    4@C  down 1    -50   ok|pg||
nt|roswolf: on 9 the expected 10 imps when the dutch made 3nt|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|nt|bbramley: @C9 is a handy card here|pg||
nt|ady: diamond could never be right   unless his partner had the ace    which seems impossible|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|hT|nt|bbramley: he'll get at least 4 spades and 1 of each, probably an extra club when west tries to cash them|pg||
nt|warrens:  I agree, Peter, it had to be something like that, but that means playing W for a pretty crazy bid non-vul|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|sybarra: maybe an imp for n/s  |pg||
nt|bbramley: he might be able to read the club position if @C5 is a count card|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg||
mc|9|nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Gerbrand. Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for bringing this festival of bridge to our screens. ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators David, Wayne and Jordan for their perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes..|pg||
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qx|o16|st||md|2SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|e|nt|vugraphzns: final board now|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: tomorrow we start again at 10:30|pg||
nt|ahollan1: there will be a session from Transnational Teams  in 1 hour 20 minutes|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 4@H C lucky board|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: but tonight we will also broadcast|pg||
nt|benjy:  Another 80 boards to go after this one|pg||
nt|kit: wow -- how did 4@H ever make in other room?|pg||
nt|calabres: a flat on, see u tomorrow|pg||
nt|rhelle: there was a mistake by North - not sure what|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 4 fast losers|pg||
nt|roswolf: north ducked the club ace|pg||
nt|bobholl: flat ?|pg||
nt|josj: ducked @CA|pg||
nt|benjy:  This looks like a tremendous result in the other room|pg||
nt|kit: Even ace of clubs ducked doesn't do it|pg||
nt|athene: interesting hand - north ducked a club led towards the east hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 48 boards tomorrow   32 boards saturday|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: at 20:30 we have the first session of the transnationals Quarter Finals|pg||
nt|athene: and then south got himself endplayed|pg||
nt|calabres: -1 maybe looking better|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c4|nt|kareno: Thanks to Dennis for a great job as operator!!|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|kit: won't get ducked here|pg||
nt|calabres: down now|pg||
pc|s8|nt|benjy:  This will be another 12 imps to team Orange|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
mc|9|nt|benjy:  Thanks all|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 129-109 after a sensational first day (quess a lot of orange shouting in Veldhoven:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: quite a finish|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: ok, bye everyone|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: in 1 hour 15 minutes QF transnationals on BBO!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 29 imps in last 3 boards|pg||
nt|jaapfr: tx Dennis you were greaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttt|pg||
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qx|c16|st||md|2SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|e|nt|sybarra: and last hand of this set now |pg||
nt|bbramley: last board - looks like another notrump partscore, this time for E/W|pg||
nt|sybarra: I think our operator is Vincent |pg||
nt|sybarra: and a big thanks to him!  |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: This is the last board of the 1st out of 8 segments, next will start in 1hour from now (13:45 local time) Hope this time everything will be fine and all can be broadcasted. Thanks ...|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: all for joining us here and specialy the commentators!|pg||
nt|drewsky: Peter.....may I ask you..what card would have played as south if you held the ace of @D ?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: this is the last board of the set...|pg||
nt|ady: last hand of the set    interesting set|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznt: Grue telling 4@D was making after this auction, guessing the @D|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2N!|nt|ady: bad lay for 4@H  e/w|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: will bid game I would think|pg||
mb|3D!|an|any limit they agree now|nt|roswolf: this looks like 4@H i agree david|pg||
nt|ady: J@H    best lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: thx Harold   and thx all and kibs|pg||
nt|roswolf: although west does only have a 9 count|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: 1N=15-17  3rd vul & always 4th|pg||
nt|warrens:  a nice squeeze on the previous hand for an overtrick|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: kib suggested 3NT       but that also should fail|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: a little too much testosterone i think|pg||
nt|ady: might get a diamond loser on 3rd spade|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Unsure about meanings|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|rhelle: now @d7 is count - odd number|pg||
nt|warrens:  needed to start with a @C, but most players avoid leading from Axxx against NT|pg||
nt|ady: if north comes in with A@C   will likely switch to a spade   and south will probably cash out for down 1|pg||
nt|ady: thx Gerbrand    thx all|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: 3rd and final set of the day begins in about 50 minutes|pg||
nt|warrens:  since S has all the entries, this should make easily|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Justin Lall tried lead of @SA|pg||
nt|petergill: Bd 30: The golden rule of expert bridge is to trust partner, not the opponents. Thus, when N is faced with a choice between two impossibilities, he must trust partner, not the ...|pg||
nt|petergill: opponent who appears to have pulled out the wrong bidding card (went for 4@S and accidentally bid 6@S off two aces) |pg||
pc|h8|pc|d3|nt|rhelle: As south, you can 'see' that North must have a virtual yarborough|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg||
nt|ady: Netherlands have made a nice recovery   |pg||
nt|roswolf: what happened there|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Grue smoothly ducked @CA...|pg||
nt|ady: slip up    but should still be -1   if no other mistake|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ady: this looks flat  so of for some lunch     thx    all    bye|pg||
nt|roswolf: this can/should make shouldnt it?|pg||
pc|c5|pc|h5|nt|bbramley: so this should be 8 tricks|pg||
nt|sybarra: and a likely push |pg||
nt|bbramley: thx everyone|pg||
nt|sybarra: see you all in about 1 hour |pg||
nt|bbramley: i'm told other room is in 3NT|pg||
nt|sybarra: in 3 nt at the other table |pg||
pc|h9|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|roswolf: straight in what a beauty|pg||
nt|ady: cash diamond and J@C|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|c6|pc|d5|pg||
nt|petergill: More on Bd 30 (due to many spec comments): If you do not trust partner above all else, then the mistakes are your own, not partner's. Chaos lies down that track, in bridge and in ...|pg||
nt|petergill: life. Enough on that topic.  |pg||
pc|cJ|nt|rhelle: totally agree, Peter|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|ady: no  end played later    J@S     from hand|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ady: bad error  by North|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|rhelle: ok thx all|pg||
nt|ahollan1: restart  45 minutes|pg||
nt|warrens:  Thanks everyone.  Thanks to BBO for providing this fantastic venue to watch the Bermuda Bow.  To Harold, for  great job as VuGraph operator, which is not easy.  To all my fellow commentators.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: thanks all, back in 45 minutes... |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: thanks Warren...|pg||
nt|warrens:  And to all of you spectators, who certainly keep us on our toes!|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: table is closing now.... bye all|pg||
pc|h7|nt|roswolf: indeed pressure again|pg||
mc|10|nt|vugraphznt: thx for watching all, we restart at 10.30 tomorrow|pg||
nt|roswolf: bye all|pg||
nt|ady: thx all|pg||
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