vg|C - Bermuda Bowl 2011,Quarter Final 3_6,I,1,16,USA 2,48,Sweden,62|
rs|2SW=,2HS-1,4HW+2,4HW+2,3NE+1,3NW+1,4HE+2,6HE-1,2SE+3,3NW+2,5HW-3,5CW=,3HN=,2SE=,3NN=,3NS-3,4HS-1,4HS-1,4HS=,4HS+1,3HE-1,4SN-1,4HW-2,3NS-1,3HW-2,1NN+1,3NS+1,3NS+1,2DE-2,2HE-2,3DN=,1NN=|
pn|WOOLDRIDGE,FREDIN,HURD,FALLENIUS,BERTHEAU,ZAGORIN,NYSTROM,BATHURST|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SJ642HA98DK8CAQJ6,SAQ75HK6DAT53CT92,ST3HJ5432D762CK87,SK98HQT7DQJ94C543|sv|o|nt|Vugraphznw: and we are go|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|brolucius: Fortunately Traian, our VG operator, is a world expert in Swedish relay systems and can explain it all (only joking...)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|an|hearts|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: A bold 2@S bid by Fredin.|pg||
pc|d2|nt|brolucius: He was not in the pass-out seat and might have had a stronger hand over him.|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d8|nt|warrens:  If he intends to act, why not double?|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: ga all|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg||
pc|s5|pc|h3|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dJ|mc|8|pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3SJ642HA98DK8CAQJ6,SAQ75HK6DAT53CT92,ST3HJ5432D762CK87,SK98HQT7DQJ94C543|sv|o|nt|antoniz: witam serdecznie:)|pg||
nt|runnerup: hi all|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Hello|pg||
nt|panosk: gd morning CK|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Hi CK|pg||
nt|panosk: latest standings here http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Welcome to the final round robin match, between Egypt and Brazil|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Hi all and welcome to this quarterfinal in the Bermuda Bowl 2011|pg||
nt|grebrof: hi all!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hlortz: hello all|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: good morning everyone|pg||
mb|1N|an|14-16|nt|lechcold: witam na trudnym meczu z USA1|pg||
nt|panosk: link will update to running scores and provisional standing as we go on|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D!|an|transfer to !h|nt|lechcold: to zawodowy team dowodzony przez sponsora - Fleischera, który w tym meczu nie wystêpuje jednak|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: north did his best can south bid 2nt-minors now|pg||
nt|panosk: 4@S looks makeable but can it be found?|pg||
nt|hlortz: usa2 fiinsjg 3rd in the RR had their choice of swedeor usa1 so they picked sweden no surprize|pg||
mb|2H|nt|lml: sure|pg||
nt|lml: hi|pg||
mb|p|nt|hlortz: /finishing/|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: wd-so at least ns gets +|pg||
mb|p|pc|cT|nt|lechcold: Na drugim stole Levin-Weinstein - aktualni mistrzowie wiata par vs. Buras-Narkiewicz|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: witam ponownie|pg||
nt|runnerup: this can go home ofcause|pg||
nt|runnerup: actually needs very bad def to let this make|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: declarer asks about 3@H; it shows a distributional hand|pg||
nt|olegario: there is a chance of making it, though E_W  if the timing is lost|pg||
nt|grebrof: the swedes are playing a conventional system where they dont count the Js - not sure how the americans play, but I hope someone can enlighten me|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: I will try to tell you what I hear and see here from the room |pg||
nt|vugraphznx: but I am getting older -- so might have problems seeing everything :)|pg||
pc|cK|nt|grebrof: anyway - this board ended in 2@h which might even be overboard - if we are to use an expression from shiping|pg||
nt|nkgupt: hi all|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pg||
nt|psyck:  this, on the other hand, can be defeated|pg||
pc|d2|nt|lml: 4@H looks like the normal contract|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|nt|grebrof: thanks Jan|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|psyck:  or allowed to make...|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 4@s down also|pg||
nt|olegario: they certainly haven´t lost the timing|pg||
nt|odysseus69: good afternoon all- may be moved but hope not|pg||
pc|d3|nt|garden2005: vs, na przysz³ych Mistrzów wiata Par :)|pg||
pc|d6|nt|lml: and it should make with no problems|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: hi Victor|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c9|nt|sunsamvar:  hi all|pg||
nt|odysseus69: Hi Jan|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|grebrof: somehow Bertheau needed that entry in dummy to play towards the K of @d - maybe there will be a problem ruffing the @d 7 - we will dee|pg||
nt|grebrof: or even see|pg||
pc|s2|nt|jbgood: hi from Veldhoven|pg||
nt|grebrof: I have a new keyboard, so typos are automatic|pg||
nt|odysseus69: cant spot the way home|pg||
nt|grebrof: the old one apparently didnt like coke|pg||
nt|odysseus69: needs help from defence|pg||
nt|grebrof: even 1 or 2 down doesnt make this a catastrophy for the swedes, so its ok|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg||
nt|panosk: yes with @D ruff|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d7|nt|psyck:  true, 4@s can also be beaten|pg||
pc|d4|pc|h8|pg||
nt|garden2005: Kolego pomyli³es pokoiki :)|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|nt|panosk: gd morning Sunil |pg||
nt|odysseus69: help provided|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|hT|pg||
pc|sA|nt|jbgood: Sweden needing VPs to qualify for the KO rounds, India not in the running|pg||
pc|sT|nt|lechcold: to kole¿anka:)|pg||
nt|garden2005: za póno :( sorry|pg||
nt|grebrof: using weak NTs does have the advantage that they actually preemp the opponents a lot|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pg||
nt|odysseus69: but not enough|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4SQ9854HDKQ932CK42,SAKHJT952DAJ6CAJ7,SJT7HQ643D754C865,S632HAK87DT8CQT93|sv|n|nt|fluffy: 2@s not orthodox but makes|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: nice 2@S C to restart with for Sweden|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not a risk that everyone would take.|pg||
nt|fluffy: probably picks 2 IMPs against 2@h on the other table|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: this is a very close match... a lot of bridge to be played|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: 6@H can go down here|pg||
mb|2C|nt|brolucius: Three more 16-board sets in each match tomorrow, so there is no need to go mad trying to catch up the points lost in a couple of bad boards. |pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fluffy: @h4-0 are better than 3-1 sometimes, this is an example, as the cards lie 12 tricks are not so hard to make|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is sensible to play the same methods (Stayman, transfers) opposite a 1NT overcall as you do opposite a 1NT opening.|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: this lead 12 tricks|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|brolucius: With a very unexpected five cards in the other major, Fredin jumps to 3@H.|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: and a strong 18+|pg||
pc|hJ|mc|12|pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4SQ9854HDKQ932CK42,SAKHJT952DAJ6CAJ7,SJT7HQ643D754C865,S632HAK87DT8CQT93|sv|n|nt|sunsamvar:  hi Panos and CK|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Hi Sunil|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: EW discussing|pg||
nt|psyck:  The Italians defended well other room|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: W wanted to know if 4@c directly would have been majors|pg||
nt|jbgood: Running score would be found here: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=881|pg||
nt|sheila a:  hallo|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: North trying to bid of turn, but he realises in time|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: 3 loosers but not 10 tricks -some 8-9 in @h|pg||
nt|grebrof: anyone have a link to Zagorin-Bathurst CC?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: pleased to hear some positive about weak NT|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: cc can be found on ecartsbridge.com // |pg||
mb|1S|nt|sunsamvar:  LED A TRUMP AND TOOK IT DOWN|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  Sry for caps|pg||
nt|jbgood: NS's CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Sweden/fredin-fallenius.pdf|pg||
mb|1N|nt|jbgood: EW's CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/India/kushari-mazumder.pdf|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C!|an|ask for majors|nt|hlortz: lall has a min fr their 1@C forcing|pg||
nt|hlortz: 1@D neg 0-7 and north makes an aggressive jump vul vs ot|pg||
nt|odysseus69: very heavy 1NT overcall|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: I cant use the internet in this room / so cant give you the exact link|pg||
mb|2D|nt|mdgraham: East competing in the minors - 2NT can't be natural here |pg||
mb|2H|nt|olegario: hello Sheila :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: East: "didn't matter" :)|pg||
nt|aramesh_:  Hi Mike-wlc:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Hello :)|pg||
nt|mdgraham: good afternoon from London |pg||
nt|odysseus69: same next door but no problem since East has plenty|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: good morning all|pg||
nt|panosk: gd morning David|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: West said 2N is undiscussed|pg||
nt|fluffy: strong NT doesn't scare bertheau|pg||
mb|4H|nt|sheila a:  Some might gamble opening 2NT or equivalent on the N hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznx: Hi David|pg||
nt|rv: Hi folks|pg||
nt|psyck:  other room also same auction, & likely umpteen down as well|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: M-J graj¹ WJ w czerwonych, Silnym Treflem w bia³ych|pg||
nt|ady: hi Panos|pg||
nt|panosk: hi RV|pg||
nt|rv: Hi CK, David and all specs|pg||
nt|rv: Hi Panos|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  hi RV|pg||
nt|psyck:  Hi David & RV|pg||
nt|psyck:  & Sunil|pg||
nt|ady: Hi RV|pg||
nt|sheila a:  but opening at 1 level makes it easier to find your best fit|pg||
nt|olegario: this is a cool slam to bid but not so easy to play though everything lays as it should|pg||
nt|sheila a:  S doesn't realise how strong partner is|pg||
nt|sheila a:  not excited to hear of @h shortage|pg||
nt|olegario: yes but Diogo has control of the hand and now he shows better his hand|pg||
nt|olegario: he has tow tough decisions to bid|pg||
nt|olegario: two|pg||
mb|p|nt|mdgraham: well, ok; but logically, it must be for the minors|pg||
pc|d4|nt|ady: Sunil|pg||
nt|grebrof: I was hoping for a link, but ok :)|pg||
pc|d8|nt|runnerup: looks like make now -2 @d tricks won -so looks like 9|pg||
nt|hlortz: looks like trump would have been best this may let it get home|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|h2|nt|vugraphznx: results and running scores can be found here: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
pc|h3|nt|panosk: this dont look gd|pg||
nt|rv: this will go many down, same bidding in OR as well|pg||
pc|hA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|s2|nt|grebrof: even if W had opened 1nt, theres no reason not showing a 2 suiter - obviously Berthaus doesnt want a @h or even a @c lead|pg||
pc|s5|nt|sunsamvar:  Needs both club and @H honours to be corectly placed|pg||
nt|hlortz: we can see south was hoping for a quick ruff but the wrongplayer was short in @C|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: in the running scores Sweden is leading by 333 imps to 0. So a lot of work to do by USA 2 :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: clearly a mistake, as Sweden only had a carry-over of 3 imps|pg||
nt|hlortz: declarer exits @h k to make a trump shift harmless - no @H lead so he expects s to have the ace|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: we are now playing the Quarter Finals. It's Knock-Out from now on|pg||
nt|hlortz: mine shows swe leading 4-0|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: the carry-over is based on the result of their match in the round robin|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: sweden won by 10 imps. Since USA 2 finished higher in the rankings 1/3 of the difference is the carry-over|pg||
pc|sA|nt|psyck:  he wants to minimise damages vul, but not much he can do|pg||
nt|mdgraham: anyway, this will drift two or three off |pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|jbgood: not unnatural to double, but takes a good defense to beat it I think|pg||
nt|jbgood: a good meaning perfect|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|rv: declarer will struggle to make 5 tricks here|pg||
nt|sheila a:  needing trumps to come in, it seems best to play W for the Q as can pick up qxxx on that side|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|nt|garden2005: kto zdobêdzie pierwsze impy?|pg||
nt|antoniz: my|pg||
nt|garden2005: prosze obstawiaæ, sprawdzam wiarê Kibiców :)|pg||
nt|lechcold: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl to jest aktualna sytuacja|pg||
nt|lechcold: widaæ, komu impy s¹ bardziej potrzebne|pg||
nt|sheila a:  need to be careful with entries, though|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|h5|nt|rv: he is entitled to only 1 trick in each suit if defense is accurate|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h8|nt|sheila a:  Egypt are 20VPs behind 8th place |pg||
nt|grebrof: my new keyboard is even worse than I thought :D|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
nt|jbgood: i think S had to take the first spade not to be endplayed... now it is a winner|pg||
pc|c3|nt|ralfwil: good afternoon everyone|pg||
nt|jbgood: hi Ralf|pg||
nt|ralfwil: hi Jon!|pg||
pc|c2|nt|sunsamvar:  maybe bgetter if he had vacated @Ha|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hQ|nt|grebrof: well played by Zagorin keeping connection to dummy|pg||
pc|hK|mc|12|pg||
qx|o3|st||md|1SK862HKDJ752CQT87,SA94HQT964D4C9532,S73HJ8532DKT863C6,SQJT5HA7DAQ9CAKJ4|sv|e|nt|Vugraphznw: we will be very fast here :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: Fredin claims everything|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|3for3: are you kidding?  this is a slow table for sure|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|3for3: sorry was private...but this table has some sure potential for slowness :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: still QF does not end before Monday 1900 Dutch time:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|brolucius: If any Americans were disappointed initially that their megastar Meckstroth-Rodwell team had not qualified, they must be reassured by the easy passage of both the USA teams into ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: the quarter-finals.  |pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|an|hearts|mb|p|mb|3N|an|alerted|mb|p|nt|brolucius: This (Very young) team, USA2, defeated the Nickell team (including M/R) and also the Diamond team on their way to the Bermuda Bowl. |pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: any backgound info why the young bridge gods Llall-Grue are not lined up here??|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: may be they are resting|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: Fredin thinking|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@D is a transfer showing hearts, just as it would be opposite a 2NT opening. Of course, you should use the same methods for the two sequences.|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: Fredin stil in the tank|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: Fredin alerted 3nt bid|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is very rare that you want to play in 3@H, so some pairs now rebid 3@H only when they have a heart fit. Here 3NT denied a fit.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|Vugraphznw: i can read on the paper the words HE CAN NOT...but after i do not understand loool|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
nt|brolucius: As you see, an unwise cover with the @SK would give declarer four spade tricks.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg||
nt|warrens:  @S to the 9, then @C to the A, then A and a @H|pg||
pc|c3|pc|h5|nt|warrens:  3 @H's, 3@S's, 2@C's and 2@D's|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, it was a good guess to lead a diamond rather than a club (my choice) but it will not bring home very much.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|dJ|pc|hT|nt|warrens:  in fact, 4@H's now|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
mc|10|nt|warrens:  best defense is a @H back, holding to 4|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: +1 claim?|pg||
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qx|c3|st||md|1SK862HKDJ752CQT87,SA94HQT964D4C9532,S73HJ8532DKT863C6,SQJT5HA7DAQ9CAKJ4|sv|e|nt|panosk: you -4 vul and get 3 imps :)|pg||
nt|panosk: *you go|pg||
nt|rv: Kushari-Laltu were more accruate in defense, took all their tricks|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: "I would have lead a @s" says Nystrom|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: and the replay came from Zagorin : "Please speak english" // and when N said the same again |pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Zagorin said // I know // and everyone laughs :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mdgraham: might not be too bad - 2@H plays ok. But surprising that EW haven't agreed on a meaning for 2NT there   |pg||
nt|mdgraham: and that might be expensive next time|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ady: as cards lay could make 12 tricks in spades  but sure they will only be in game|pg||
nt|hlortz: ew will compete a fair way even vul as hey have 12 !  hearts|pg||
mb|2C|nt|rv: Deal 1 in OR, perfect bidding, play and defense in 5@d double, @d trump, first @s ducked, second @s won, @C underlead, @s ruff, super play from everyone|pg||
nt|rv: great advert for bridge|pg||
nt|ralfwil: will tis be passed out?|pg||
nt|ralfwil: this...|pg||
nt|jbgood: nope|pg||
nt|fluffy: how many diamonds does 1@d opening promise?|pg||
nt|fluffy: zero specs say|pg||
nt|fluffy: but 3@s is certainly umbalanced, so bertheau is facing a double fit, perhaps @s-@d or @s-@c|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: ale i Amerykanie maj¹ o co walczyæ - ca³y czas maj¹ szansê na drugie miejsce po RR, a co za tym idzie prawo wyboru przeciwnika w drugiej kolejnoci|pg||
nt|panosk: totally agree RV|pg||
mb|2H!|nt|ryskiel_: to powinnimy siê im pod³o¿yæ - mo¿e wybraliby nas:)|pg||
nt|antoniz: lol|pg||
mb|d|nt|ralfwil: mahing by strength|pg||
nt|ralfwil: making....|pg||
nt|ralfwil: for me - not so far away|pg||
mb|2N|nt|antoniz: Rysio w akcji:)|pg||
nt|hlortz: n overvalued his @H void since it faces stiff ace|pg||
mb|p|nt|ryskiel_: chwa³a Bogu - 300 wisia³o w powietrzu|pg||
nt|runnerup: @h lead will kill 1 entry to @c s but south cant find that ?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 3NT the spot and sue to make |pg||
mb|3N|nt|runnerup: well well -now some guesses needed to make|pg||
nt|mdgraham: Well-earned swing to the Netherlands on board 17 - good 6@c in the other room|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: time to grab your coffee|pg||
nt|psyck:  ahem, slam try|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznx: thats what he said|pg||
nt|sheila a:  some play the dbl of 1@d as equal length in majors, could be 3-3|pg||
mb|p|nt|jbgood: for those who just paid out a niner - no way they risk another small catastrophe |pg||
nt|fluffy: looks like bathurst has gathered all the info required|pg||
nt|odysseus69: wil need to take the right plack suit finesse|pg||
nt|grebrof: will Nystrom lead a @d?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: no - he has 9 tricks for sure- sorry|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: links to convention cards :) http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/docdefault.asp?page=BermudaBowl&start=c%3A%5Cinetpub%5Cwwwroot%5Cecatsbridge%5Cdocuments%5Cfile...|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: s%5CConventionCards%2F2011Veldhoven|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ady: now 12 tricks|pg||
nt|mdgraham: just going to check the ecats site to see if I can get CC's |pg||
nt|fluffy: 2@h double has a meaning|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2011netherlands/regsystems.asp|pg||
nt|grebrof: maybe the X from Berthau was saying "dont lead @hs"|pg||
nt|fluffy: and it might be the cause of the lead|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: and click Bermuda Bowl |pg||
nt|vugraphznx: then you should be able to find every cc needed :)|pg||
nt|fluffy: a lot or work to do, zagorin will hardly imagine this hand|pg||
nt|grebrof: I have them both now, thank you|pg||
nt|odysseus69: notice that South did not consider a double- there are some who think this is "fielding" - its just bridge|pg||
pc|d9|nt|antoniz: piêkne odejcie|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|ryskiel_: masz na myli manewr po ostatniej rundzie?|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|d2|nt|odysseus69: when partner opens in 3rd seat at faviurable and opponents sail into game then trust the oppo|pg||
pc|h4|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: that's not a guess you meant..|pg||
nt|runnerup: yes that was the end of this 3nt|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: south said sorry for thinking|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|antoniz: tak|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: jak Jessie wskoczy królem to idê siê wieszaæ|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ryskiel_: uff uratowa³ mi ¿ycie:)|pg||
nt|antoniz: bêdziesz ¿y³:)|pg||
nt|garden2005: bêd¹ p¹czki nie id|pg||
nt|garden2005: paczki|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: 9-kê 9-ke 9-kê|pg||
nt|antoniz: wreszcie zamieni³ stryjek....na nasz¹ korzyæ|pg||
nt|lechcold: ósemka trefl lepsza by by³a od Jassema|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: i tu Lebensohl okaza³ siê naszym sprzymierzeñcem - 2 BA siê jako gra³o|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s9|nt|sheila a:  not sure why N didn't lead partner's suit|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|odysseus69: might advance heart q|pg||
nt|grebrof: well, even if NS got off to a good start, its will be hard to avoid EW making a lot of tricks - or 9 which they need|pg||
nt|fluffy: it would be a disaster, but playing @hQ is an option now|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cA|nt|ryskiel_: teraz Martens ma podegraæ piki|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ady: did not ruff a club   so only 11|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ryskiel_: kjeeeeeeest|pg||
pc|sA|nt|odysseus69: king???|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: S did play the @s K with the Fuc - word|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|c2|nt|fluffy: someone made a type|pg||
pc|h5|nt|fluffy: and it was south!|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|d7|nt|grebrof: well, they all do mistakes|pg||
pc|h6|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|lechcold: mog³o byæ -3, ale nie marudzimy|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg||
nt|rv: Indian team has been hurt by the poor form of one pair (not playing this match), both pairs playing here have Butler score of 0.25+, 3rd pair has Butler of -1.1|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: some more costly that others|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg||
nt|garden2005: rozgromimy Amerykê!|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d5|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|c3|nt|grebrof: soething "weired" obviousy happened at the other table too|pg||
nt|fluffy: he will feel relieved when he sees partner's hand and sees that it's just an overtrick, but the play could had gone in some other way actually|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o4|st||md|2SAT42HQ76DKJ763C8,S9863HAT9DAQT5CK6,SJ75HD9842CQJT942,SKQHKJ85432DCA753|sv|b|nt|jaapfr vg: oh true @H return|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: no heart back first and then South claimed|pg||
nt|brolucius: Now a bidding test for E/W.|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|an|GF|mb|p|nt|brolucius: With hearts 3-0, also a play test.|pg||
mb|1N|an|alerted|nt|brolucius: 1@S is GI+ relay. You don't know what that means? Join the club...|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: Fredin said 1s is GF|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: if less than 6@H no real problem though|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|an|alerted|nt|warrens:  yes, this is an excellent slam, just dependent on 2-1 @H's, likely to go down at both tables |pg||
nt|brolucius: They are explained on 'extra page 15', which I have on my screen. Still...|pg||
mb|d|mb|r|nt|warrens:  only way this makes 6 is a @D lead imho|pg||
nt|brolucius: Even then, he would still need to guess which trump honor to play first.|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: needs a trf @H and 6@H BY W and the X by S might help:)|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: Fallenius thinking|pg||
nt|brolucius: Peter Karlsson tells me: in card 1S is GF, or 11-12 with NT or clubs. If responder passes 1NT then 11-12 NT, 1C-1S-1N-2S would be the club hand.|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: in 6@H I meant|pg||
nt|brolucius: So, 2@D is now game-forcing.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|brolucius: Relay sequences are either wonderful (if everything is remembered and the final contract is a thing of beauty) or disastrous (if a wheel falls off).|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: end of the 6@H dreams|pg||
nt|warrens:  wow|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: the rdbl showed diamonds|pg||
nt|brolucius: A failing sequence (missing the good 6@H) but one that may turn out luckily with this heart break.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Against 6@H, South would have to judge whether cashing the @SA at Trick 1 would give away the position of the @HQ.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|sK|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|h6|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: still 12|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: loool|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: Fallenius said you ruffed it|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: all laughing loud|pg||
nt|brolucius: One pair may stop laughing when they hear the result from the other table.|pg||
mc|12|nt|Vugraphznw: Fallenius: lucky slam|pg||
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qx|c4|st||md|2SAT42HQ76DKJ763C8,S9863HAT9DAQT5CK6,SJ75HD9842CQJT942,SKQHKJ85432DCA753|sv|b|nt|garden2005: do ucha|pg||
nt|antoniz: to mo¿e po malutkim:)|pg||
nt|panosk: wud you lead diferent if in slam?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: East will speed up whenever she can, she knows her partner can be very slow|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|garden2005: o tej porze? lol|pg||
mb|1H|nt|rv: normally all teams with 2 pairs more than +0.25 are in qualifying zone|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  if u were in 6, i suppose the correct play wd be to bang the @Dak and if !Q does not drop to take the @H fin|pg||
nt|sheila a:  In the other room E opened 1@s and when 4@h came back to him made an 'action' double|pg||
nt|fluffy: some in the middle bid like 5@h would had worked better for Bertheau as the cards lied|pg||
mb|p|nt|jbgood: S pitched a @d in the OR - that is why he only took 9|pg||
mb|1N|nt|runnerup: no imps will be moved here |pg||
nt|psyck:  not sure, @d leadlook safer in slam|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: For live results: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm , click on the series you want to see|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D!|an|Gameforcing|nt|sheila a:  E here gets his hand off his chest more quickly|pg||
mb|p|nt|panosk: i m with CK too|pg||
nt|fluffy: NS being agressive this might lead to -800|pg||
mb|2H|an|3!hs|nt|psyck:  @h could be rite in slam too, hoping for 1@h, 1@c trick, but ddepends on bidding|pg||
nt|jbgood: possible to get ambitious on the S hand when prd supports spades ... no good layout for game though|pg||
nt|odysseus69: without the spade king play I was expecting the heart Q next|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: Please access http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881 for running scores and standings|pg||
nt|sheila a:  could have gone horribly wrong but lands on his feet|pg||
nt|fluffy: 2@d is XYZ or 2-way checkback, showing a GF hand|pg||
mb|3H!|an|invitational for slam|nt|vugraphznx: against suit NS lead 3th 5th|pg||
nt|fluffy: 2@h shows 3@hs|pg||
nt|grebrof: 3@h a slamtry I think|pg||
nt|fluffy: 3@h sets the fit and lets start cuebidding|pg||
mb|p|nt|fluffy: but Grue has too many spades to try it|pg||
mb|4C!|an|cuebid|nt|ady: trump lead may give 3@D a probelem|pg||
nt|rv: Italy leading with 361, India in 17th place on 265, 34 VPs behind 8th spot NZ|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  great lead|pg||
nt|ady: can get the position of 10C right to make|pg||
mb|p|nt|odysseus69: in trhe slam zone here|pg||
nt|fluffy: @sA missing Kevin knows|pg||
mb|4D!|an|cuebid !s and !d|nt|grebrof: if they bid slam, S will most likely reveal something by leading the A of @h|pg||
mb|p|nt|jbgood: Scores: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=881|pg||
mb|4S!|nt|lechcold: Martens wie o singlu karo u partnera|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: ...i Lawintaluje na wicie, a tak¿e rozbi zas³onê|pg||
nt|lechcold: rzecz sprowadzi siê do palcówki pikowej|pg||
nt|garden2005: Martens stary ale jary :)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: a co bardziej?|pg||
nt|lechcold: po ataku treflowym, impasie i odwrocie w singla karo by³oby chyba le¿enie bezwarunkowe|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  or ruff a @C|pg||
nt|hlortz: the north overcall was a bit thin vul :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|panosk: these tens have always been a nuissance to me|pg||
mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: now should be down|pg||
nt|odysseus69:  needs an unlikely diamond lead to make slam|pg||
nt|grebrof: not sure I agree with cue a void here when W has opened, but I have found myself doiing it more than onece|pg||
nt|fluffy: 4@d is showing the 2 cuebids, and 4@s might be kickback or some last train, whatever it is, bathurst is happy to play slam|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 4@d might be Last train|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: instead of a cuebid|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: it does guarantee a @s control|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: but not a @d cuebid|pg||
nt|grebrof: yeah, it should guarantee that|pg||
pc|c8|nt|fluffy: zagorin has evaluated very well his @cKx, and now 6@h will make if they can just play the correct heart top honnor|pg||
pc|cK|nt|rv: this and 2 more rounds to be played in RR|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  yes|pg||
nt|grebrof: Im oldfashioned - last trains are not my style, but ok|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
nt|yusufb: nerde:)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: South might fear that leading spade ace might suggest he has q of hearts|pg||
nt|grebrof: the lead is very good|pg||
pc|hA|pc|c4|pc|h2|nt|jbgood: The first 4 seem safe, but 7 teams fighting for the other 4 quarter final spots |pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|sheila a:  difficult for S to bid over 4@s opposite a passed partner|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: that seemed a litlle surprising to Bathurst|pg||
nt|grebrof: as I said - leading an ace, often say you have something in trumps|pg||
nt|fluffy: yeah, who would expect teh palyer who opened 4 CHP previous board to pass with a void at the 1 level?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: he avoided the diamond lead - but not sure that even that would be enough|pg||
nt|grebrof: entering at the 1level or opening 3rd hand is 2 different things, but I agree|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|nt|rv: top 8 teams will qualify for QFs at today end of day (EOD)|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: bij pieronie|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  maybe he expected 3 carder trump with Mukherjee|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|nt|ady: good lead|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|fluffy: tried to steal the @s trick, not a success|pg||
pc|cA|pc|h7|pc|c6|nt|fluffy: bertheau can now kill dummy by playing another diamond|pg||
nt|fluffy: but this will jus tbe 3 tricks for teh defence|pg||
nt|grebrof: well, he had to try somethinh|pg||
nt|grebrof: g|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3S842HKJ85DKT92C75,SQ9H62DQJ6CAQJT43,SJT5HAQ7DA874C862,SAK763HT943D53CK9|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|jaapfr vg: IF in 6@H doubt will ever play @D|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: S|pg||
nt|warrens:  about to go down in 6@H in the other room|pg||
mb|d|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: South must decide between showing the hearts (with a double) and raising diamonds straight away to show the fit.|pg||
mb|2D|nt|brolucius: If North does not promise 4 diamonds, it is no contest. Anyway a double is normal.|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: I am told that 6@H is going down at the other table after a club opening lead. Unlucky for them.|pg||
pc|s2|nt|yusufb: apel vardýr|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: 15-0 for Sweden this set...and a lead opening|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: bridge not fair each board but over 16 boards (especially 6x16) it is a very fair sport imo|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|h2|pc|sT|pg||
mc|11|nt|brolucius: It is the perfect mixture of luck and skill, some people say (after winning a match).|pg||
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qx|c5|st||md|3S842HKJ85DKT92C75,SQ9H62DQJ6CAQJT43,SJT5HAQ7DA874C862,SAK763HT943D53CK9|sv|n|nt|lechcold: oczywicie,po ataku w trefle RGR nie musia³by impasowaæ|pg||
nt|runnerup: Hurd was his moment -because declarer took @h to wrong hand -but now flat board|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  and so plyd @C9|pg||
nt|psyck:  which again may hinge on @cT guess|pg||
nt|rv: there is incentive for Italy to take this and next 2 matches seriously though they are already assured of qualifying for QFs|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: W not amused|pg||
nt|rv: team which tops RR gets to pick QF opponent from teams 5-8, they get carryover from RR match to QFs as well|pg||
nt|bt:  this was a nice contract and a lucky break for sweden, and no cant make unless diamond lead|pg||
nt|jacksond: 13 imps out rather than 13 in for bidding the excelent slam. A huge blow to the underdogs in this match|pg||
nt|fluffy: 3-0 break that costs 26 IMPs|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ryskiel_: ale mo¿na trefla ubiæ asem|pg||
nt|lechcold: jak by by³o - ju¿ siê nie dowiemy|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: 1,2,3 wygra³e Ty|pg||
nt|runnerup: if he can play small @c -it had only 10 tricks|pg||
nt|sheila a:  good gain for Egypt|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C!|an|could be 2 !cs|nt|panosk: red slam here makes but i can they get there?|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|rv: 2@c could be transfer to @d|pg||
nt|fluffy: 1NT probably shows a good support hand|pg||
nt|fluffy: for a passed hand at least|pg||
nt|hlortz: that was a strange finesse might have lost + a @C ruff why ot just D throwing J@C for safe 10 tricks or did i miss something?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: not alerted, so probably natural|pg||
nt|bt:  i doubt usa2 defines themselves as underdogs :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: 11 in @h by guessing -this is more challencing|pg||
nt|rv: sry 3 card drury|pg||
nt|fluffy: nystrom's hand is good, but having the strong opening on his right is not particularilly appealing|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: well, bertheau had thought very long before taking @sQ, so he had last trump|pg||
mb|2N|nt|ady: 6@S a save against 6 of a red suit|pg||
nt|hlortz: ah table action |pg||
nt|fluffy: you want AQ10 and KJ9 when RHO opens, his hand would be wonderful if the strong hand was in his left|pg||
mb|p|nt|psyck:  not likely to bid @h slam with two keycards missing|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  carryover may not be significant but getting to avoid certain teams is certainly an advantage and an incentive to finish in top 3|pg||
mb|3N|nt|lechcold: 2@C rewolwerowe, ale dobry kolor przynajmniej:)|pg||
nt|panosk: 3@S by S?|pg||
nt|jbgood: this is not the first time the Swedes have had to struggle after a bad start...|pg||
nt|jacksond: Sweden favoured by nearly 2/1 in this match againnst the youg USA team|pg||
mb|p|nt|kamyk: tak czu³em, ¿e Jassem nie jest w stanie spasowac z t¹ piêkn¹ kart¹:)|pg||
nt|lechcold: i akcja udana, piki posz³y na spacer|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: jeszcze niekoniecznie|pg||
nt|rv: Versace may get in with 5@s here|pg||
nt|ady: or 5@S a save against 5 level|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  india making 3 nt on bd 4|pg||
nt|ady: difficult judgements |pg||
nt|rv: I am fairly certain N-S won't bid 6@h, they will take cash if Versace bids 5@s|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: N knows they have a double fit|pg||
nt|panosk: its the reasonable choice i think |pg||
nt|panosk: to double 5@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: yes, actually 2 keycards are out though no one asked for aces|pg||
nt|rv: taking cash is long-term winning strategy|pg||
nt|panosk: in life too :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: grue is asking if 1NT was natural, as some pairs play it as 'cuebid' |pg||
nt|vugraphznx: bertheau telling he thought 1N was cuebid|pg||
mb|p|nt|garden2005: nie tylko piki, bedzie p¹czek albo kilka paczek :)|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  i guess North will settle for cash here|pg||
nt|fluffy: looks like 8 or 11 tricks|pg||
nt|jacksond: there opnly other choice after doing well in the RR was to pick USA 1|pg||
nt|bt:  i wont tell u what i think but a team that wins us trials and are 3rd in the RR are no underdogs usually|pg||
nt|odysseus69: defence better not slip|pg||
nt|odysseus69: but may try passive spade lead|pg||
nt|grebrof: at this point of the match, USA2 are the underdogs, but only narrowly|pg||
nt|fluffy: remember 2@c can be any balanced hand, not neccesarilly long clubs|pg||
nt|jacksond: the odds even before the tournament quoted in bulletin were 8/1 Sweden and 16/1 USA 2|pg||
nt|odysseus69: lerading from axxx not attractive on this auction|pg||
nt|odysseus69: nothing attractive|pg||
pc|d4|nt|lechcold: 20:0 bêdzie:):):)|pg||
nt|rv: yes especially if you are in Greece:)|pg||
pc|d3|nt|vugraphznx: Declarer asking about the double on 3@H, unfortunately couldn't hear the answer|pg||
nt|fluffy: pressure goes to bertheau now|pg||
pc|dK|nt|sheila a:  having diagnosed the lack of @h stop EW have a choice of 4@s or 5@d|pg||
nt|sheila a:  @d actually looks better|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|odysseus69: first hurdle cleared- should be ok now|pg||
pc|d2|nt|garden2005: a nie pisa³em? ! :)|pg||
nt|bt:  i think nystrom will cash @H A after @DT back|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|runnerup: what is happening now -forcing pass -when they could have died in loosing 4 @s |pg||
nt|grebrof: I never understood the passive leads when you have entries - or that you know you have the entries but you "know" your partner has nothing|pg||
nt|fluffy: and now back to nystrom|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ady: now become cheap    |pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|odysseus69: ace of hearts> |pg||
nt|bt:  trust fredrik, i do, always|pg||
nt|fluffy: @hA is great if declarer has @sx @hKxx @dQJx @cAQxxx|pg||
nt|grebrof: I sent Fredrik to buy me a beverage once - its still missing :D|pg||
nt|odysseus69: maybe South should return 10|pg||
nt|fluffy: @sxx|pg||
nt|grebrof: I agree with Victor here|pg||
nt|odysseus69: heart ace coming|pg||
nt|fluffy: I don't think we are here to predict what will happen, and less again to support a team against another|pg||
nt|odysseus69: going for 20 wrong predictions|pg||
nt|grebrof: the @d 10 is much more clarifying,  - but it depends on agreements|pg||
nt|bt:  well if u commentate spain.netherlands u would be comletely neutral, right? ;)|pg||
nt|grebrof: its clearly difficult anyway - playing 2 rounds of @hs may set up something for declearer|pg||
pc|d8|nt|mdgraham: why is it that as soon as you try and do anything, you get a massive update completely take over your PC? |pg||
nt|bt:  :(|pg||
mc|11|nt|bt:  it was tough and much to ask for|pg||
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qx|o6|st||md|4ST987HQJ964DA8CJ4,SQ63HAKT8DKQ4CAK6,SAKJ542H2D632C752,SH753DJT975CQT983|sv|e|nt|jaapfr vg: :) lol|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|an|alerted|nt|brolucius: Another bidding test for E/W. They can make amends for the (lucky) previous failure.|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|an|alerted|nt|brolucius: 2@C is 20+ or weak 2 in diamonds.|pg||
nt|brolucius: So, if South had bid 3@S, West could not pass (I suppose) or partner might think he had a weak 2@D.|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: a direct 4@S seems more logic to me|pg||
mb|3H|nt|warrens:  yes, that's what I expected.  |pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: by S|pg||
mb|4S|nt|warrens:  hmm, now e/w heading to 5@H's?|pg||
nt|warrens:  maybe E can bid 4N as takeout|pg||
nt|brolucius: Unlikely. 3@H was a strange choice.|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: even might bring them to a makeble slam|pg||
mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: no @H lead:)|pg||
pc|sK|nt|brolucius: South would not have achieved this result by bidding 4@S, of course.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|sT|nt|jaapfr vg: i miss this bidding completely (or the bidding lost me:)|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: this will be IMPS to somebody ...for sure lol|pg||
pc|h5|nt|brolucius: The bidding was very pleasing (for South).|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: undeserved|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|nt|warrens:  well, that's a good start|pg||
pc|d5|nt|warrens:  I think S should have split, since he can force dummy to ruff|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: if that is correct English?|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|3for3: 460|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|3for3: 460 in 3nt in other room on 5|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|h6|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sA|mc|8|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4ST987HQJ964DA8CJ4,SQ63HAKT8DKQ4CAK6,SAKJ542H2D632C752,SH753DJT975CQT983|sv|e|nt|ryskiel_: Grzesiu do 25:0 brakuje szcze 5|pg||
nt|garden2005: siedzimy na nich ch³opaki, nie schodziæ! .. walczyæ :)|pg||
nt|rv: defense lost 2 tricks, practically it was very tough to take 3 down, 2 down was distinct possibility|pg||
nt|ady: should be a quiet hand here|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  cashing the @CA early is the key.. do not give def to unblock with Hx|pg||
nt|ady: around 1NT e/w|pg||
nt|mdgraham: still, a very long way to go|pg||
nt|grebrof: we all agree to that|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: or 2@D|pg||
nt|mdgraham: these matches are 96 boards, 6 sets of 16|pg||
nt|fluffy: well lets say that I have been to italian comentarys a couple of times, and well, I ahve no words, comentarists there would rather let their opponents have a heartache and die at ...|pg||
nt|fluffy: the table than let bocchi miss an overtrick|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznx: director will come back later with a ruling|pg||
mb|2C!|an|strongest opening|nt|ady: 9 tricks in diamonds |pg||
nt|vugraphznx: H10 worked anyway here|pg||
nt|fluffy: sweden had a disater at the other table|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 5 minor and not 3NT the spot and 5D down|pg||
nt|bt:  thanks for telling us |pg||
nt|grebrof: seeing all the hands make every world class player look like an idiot - well - they do make mistakes, but the difference between you and me, is  that they actually put their mind ...|pg||
nt|grebrof: into it|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p!|an|negative|nt|fluffy: pass of 2@s might have had some special meaning at the other table, and that encouraged west to bid his hearts|pg||
nt|odysseus69: but they have to reach 5 clubs for big swing|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Pass from E was negative -- DBL would have been gameforcing|pg||
mb|3S|nt|rv: very rare to see natural 1@d on 1@c with 4M+4@D|pg||
mb|p!|nt|bt:  i think it was just braindead but there are many boards left|pg||
mb|p|nt|bt:  thing is everyone makes mistakes, its how you handle them that counts|pg||
mb|4N|an|minors|nt|panosk: lots of imps exchanging hands in 1st few boards in all matches|pg||
nt|rv: yes swing boards|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|nt|ady: 8 tricks in spades here   so 3@S   part score save|pg||
nt|sheila a:  Assume 3@s showed max and 5@s |pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Marion (east) asks if she is sure Laura (west) wants to sign off|pg||
nt|mdgraham: anyway, EW pretty natural, 15-17 NT; NS strong club, 14-16 NT |pg||
mb|p|nt|ryskiel_: seniorzy 12:0 nietrafiona palcówka na 4 kier w 4|pg||
nt|panosk: take a look here  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  evry odd board is a swingy one :)|pg||
nt|jbgood: again the defense will have to be careful |pg||
mb|p|nt|garden2005: tak siê wam tylko wydaje, ¿e nie by³o przy tym zas³ug Polaka, dzielny Jessi otworzy³ im w "usta Mariana" i pozostawi³ po sobie mylny trop w postaci wygodnego forsingu 3@c ...|pg||
nt|rv: Versace's double shows extras, Inv hand|pg||
nt|fluffy: some partscore competition, minors won over majors, wich is not usually the case|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: grue saying he could have invited over 1N|pg||
nt|mdgraham: probably wants to go back to 2@h |pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: no angry birds (doubles ) inn teams so |pg||
nt|sheila a:  played the other way up in the other room and got a @d lead|pg||
nt|fluffy: Grue showing both minors, anyone can be longer if any, an lall decided to pick clubs wich seems worse|pg||
nt|mdgraham: both pairs play slightly odd two bids; NS Multi 2@d, 2@H=both majors, 2@s=6-carder|pg||
nt|mdgraham: EW two-way 2@C and 2@d, 2M=5card s+4+minor, weakish|pg||
nt|bt:  nicely done by ew, this is a tough hand to get right|pg||
pc|sK|nt|lechcold: Stansby powinien technicznego waleta karo postawiæ|pg||
nt|jbgood: repeated heart leads will not do the trick|pg||
nt|grebrof: I kinda find it hard that supporting to 4@s and this VUL would be too bad with an A and 4 trumps, but Peter has probably seen Fredriks entries before|pg||
pc|c3|nt|fluffy: however clubs break better than diamonds|pg||
nt|fluffy: the play looks very straightfoward, draw trumps to avoid diamond surprises|pg||
pc|sT|nt|garden2005: inna wysokoæ i nici z zysku|pg||
nt|lechcold: a teraz MArtens wygra|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 5 diamonds also OK - I was giving defence a spade trick - |pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|ady: having got in the bidding n/s did not take the save      |pg||
pc|c8|pc|c4|nt|hlortz: likely down 1 or 2 ... players compete for partscore more than they used to in IMPs imo|pg||
pc|cA|nt|mdgraham: and both play a natural 2NT opening. |pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: EW play almost standard 2openers for dutch|pg||
pc|cK|nt|rv: Italians in OR have reached 6@d double, that should make|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|nt|lechcold: s³abiutkie te Jankesy:)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: nawet as kier jest po s³usznej - czyli naszej - stronie:)|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|antoniz: dobra gra to i farcik jest:)|pg||
pc|c6|nt|rv: we should have new leaders shortly|pg||
nt|jbgood: i dont think the defense will go wrong, but ...|pg||
pc|c7|nt|sheila a:  should be ok for 4@c, 4@s and a @h|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: North studying the convention card|pg||
nt|sheila a:  N tempted to duck this as he doesn't have any sure entries|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|panosk: id very much like to see their bidding|pg||
nt|mdgraham: yes, it's odd how "standard" varies from country to country |pg||
nt|mdgraham: like a lot of other things I suppose|pg||
nt|bt:  chalk another 14 imp up to undisciplined bidding|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: making 5 or 6 says Zagorin|pg||
nt|odysseus69: it looks from here that West should have passed 3D in open room|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: "Play it" says N|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|nt|fluffy: 1 down wouldn't matter if 2@s was making, but here it looks like 2@s is doomed, 2@c 1@d 1@h 2@s on a club lead, but Lall had no other lead avaible I think|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: and then he claims again|pg||
nt|bt:  3@H isawful, now next hand|pg||
mc|11|nt|fluffy: north is right, you can't take the heart fineses when dummy is tap|pg||
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qx|o7|st||md|1ST7HAQJ2DAJT65C53,SAK32HKT6DQ8CT764,SQ64H9873D2CKQJ82,SJ985H54DK9743CA9|sv|b|nt|jaapfr vg: this ""awful""5@H opens the door to USA2 to balance the score|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: 3d alerted differently on each side of the screen|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: Fredin making notes|pg||
mb|1D|nt|jaapfr vg: assuming they get a kick (or opps a downside kick of it)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|warrens:  Fredin virtually guaranteed to bid 2@S :)|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: I expect Fallenius has to take various pills before each session.|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: 3@H can make |pg||
nt|yusufb: niye|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: Fredin will question , I think, the result before|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: depends on lead: @S can make dummy trump short|pg||
nt|brolucius: East to have differences of opinion on the 3@D bid, when the opener's 2@C includes a weak diamond option.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Easy to...|pg||
pc|h5|nt|jaapfr vg: still a tough fight making or not here|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg||
nt|brolucius: This is the second time (at least) that Fredin has protected when not in the protective seat.|pg||
nt|meargent: south thought 2@Ds was a weak 2 so 3@Ds was clear|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not to the players, apparently. They gave differing explanations.|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: he means that the 2@S bid very dangerous if N pretty unlimited|pg||
nt|meargent: not very dangerous at that vul|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: then mb we differ what is very dangerous:)|pg||
pc|c6|nt|brolucius: Making such bids is difficult for partner when he has to judge how high to raise.|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg||
nt|brolucius: Such decisions are often based on 'total trumps' and if partner may have four cards for a two-level overcall, it is awkward.|pg||
nt|warrens:  club back actually hurts delcarer's communications|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|warrens:  but he can now pitch a losing spade|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s7|pc|c7|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: are we all talking about the 2@S bid by Fredin here(b7)?|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|cT|pg||
nt|meargent: some of us are 1 bd behind:(|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: usa2 in the lead this set|pg||
nt|meargent: one slows up with age|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: ty that reinstalls my shock:)|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: 20-15|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: i mean everything ok|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|h8|pc|d7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|d9|nt|jaapfr vg: yes kibs you are right 3@H could go down |pg||
pc|sT|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|d6|pg||
nt|warrens:  well done|pg||
mc|9|nt|brolucius: A nice ending.|pg||
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qx|c7|st||md|1ST7HAQJ2DAJT65C53,SAK32HKT6DQ8CT764,SQ64H9873D2CKQJ82,SJ985H54DK9743CA9|sv|b|nt|runnerup: defence made it a bit difficult for them selfes but normal -2|pg||
nt|rv: nothing succeeds like success:)|pg||
nt|psyck:  5@sx was pulled to 6@d|pg||
nt|ady: another slam|pg||
nt|rv: Please access link http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=882 for live scores from Venice ...|pg||
nt|rv: Cup|pg||
nt|psyck:  a good one too|pg||
nt|jbgood: swedish fans can breath calmer now - a much needed swing|pg||
nt|bt:  lol|pg||
nt|grebrof: Fredins 3@h bid at the other table seems kinda odd, but he is that kind of player that can win a match out of luck or pure lottery (he is a brilliant cardplayer too of course)|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|d|nt|ady: hearts 5-1 a hindrence|pg||
nt|panosk: but @C 3-2 solve it :)|pg||
nt|hlortz: kin suggests lall might have made by putting up K@H  maybe...|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 1@c responses are dealt with in Note 38 of the NS CC|pg||
mb|2C!|an|Natural NF|nt|vugraphznx: W to S: If i bid 3NT after @s lead 9 tricks|pg||
nt|rv: Please access link http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=883 for live scores from ...|pg||
nt|rv: seniors|pg||
nt|bt:  well he got to practice his skills in 5@H so he should be happy|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 2@c= natural NonForcing|pg||
mb|2S|nt|sheila a:  Sweden have gone into a big lead over NZ, which puts them back into a qualifying spot|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 1@h=8-11, all hands except those with five spades|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sunsamvar:  south has a @D and a @H loser in 6@C|pg||
nt|fluffy: gib was saying so, but everything was so complicated|pg||
nt|hlortz: kib|pg||
nt|hlortz: ah well my money is on gib,  |pg||
nt|fluffy: putting @hK and losing control for -300 or even more was what really worried Lall I think|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes he didnt know @C 3-3|pg||
nt|hlortz: transfer resp to 1@D looks like|pg||
nt|fluffy: I have no notes on NS bidding sadly, we know 1@d precision can have 6@c zero diamonds, and 1@h looks like showing spades|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: no, i think 1@h is inv+ relay|pg||
mb|p|nt|psyck:  N is happy to hear 3@s x, but not clear how to proceed|pg||
nt|ady: e/w making life difficult with this barrage|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  but 1 will go on @SA|pg||
nt|fluffy: or perhaps gf relay|pg||
pc|s7|nt|garden2005: uciekaj!|pg||
nt|runnerup: looks very good result ns in other room -all games has some problems -5 @d surely the best|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: ga all|pg||
pc|sA|nt|sheila a:  the natural weak 2 in @d - not everyone has that in their bag|pg||
pc|s4|nt|lechcold: no niestety, to nie jest rozdanie dla Wujota|pg||
nt|fluffy: yeah that make smore sense, 1NT promises at elast 2@s and 4@s sets the contract|pg||
nt|mdgraham: I wonder if they can locate a 4/4 heart fit after this start (here, of course, they haven't got one, so it's a bit academic) |pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: hoi mike|pg||
nt|mdgraham: obviously they can - by the simple expedient of bidding the suit|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|antoniz: dziêki za wist|pg||
nt|garden2005: Krzysiu traf trefla, jest u Martela! :) lol|pg||
nt|fluffy: 2@c concealed the heart fit, this might cost a double aprt score swing|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|nt|psyck:  nicely done|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  nicely done|pg||
nt|sheila a:  I think E just wanted to play in 3@h |pg||
pc|d4|nt|sunsamvar:  what will u lead ?|pg||
nt|rv: yes if Sumit's double shows both minors with @s shortage, it works well|pg||
nt|psyck:  rite, once he found the 3@sx, they could not really go wrong|pg||
nt|ady: easiest on spade lead is to ruff    2 rounds of teumps   ruff another spade   cross with a heart  draw trump  and cash 2nd heart  and play a diamond|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: W asking for X|pg||
nt|hlortz: ya that seems to fit auction|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|ralfwil: 4@s is a cheap save, so I disagree with dbl from N|pg||
pc|sT|nt|sheila a:  doesn't seem to be possible in their methods|pg||
nt|mdgraham: it's funny how often that works - bidding what you've got|pg||
pc|sK|nt|jaapfr vg: forgiven:)|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s8|pg||
nt|rv: now 12 tricks even in nt strain:)|pg||
nt|ady: now with 3 diamond tricks and 3-2 club split   easy|pg||
nt|fluffy: obviously concealing @h98xx doesn't look bad, but this might be a bad time as the cards lie|pg||
pc|d8|pc|c2|nt|bt:  i think bidding where u live is an underestimated concept, but it was probably wrong here|pg||
pc|d3|nt|lechcold: trefl rzeczywicie jest do trafienia|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|kamyk: miaó, poszed³ pasywnie z trzech blotek, bo wszêdzie ma figury:)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: trafi jak zobaczy jak le¿¹ piki|pg||
nt|lechcold: czemu MArtel wyszed³ z 3 blotek pik?|pg||
pc|c5|nt|mdgraham: Hi Jaap :) nice to have some company|pg||
pc|c6|nt|sheila a:  maybe he should have bid 4@c over 3NT|pg||
nt|odysseus69: but 2S not home|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|lechcold: och|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|s2|nt|ady: yes    12 tricks on any split now|pg||
nt|odysseus69: sorry again- missed diamond spot|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|panosk: i think he can make 5@C and 4@H and 1@S and 2@D no matter what lead|pg||
nt|jbgood: dbl perhaps ok - but S's pass knowing N passed originally might have told him to bid 4@s (2@h spade support) - not cheap tha either i am afraid|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c3|pg||
nt|antoniz: Martel chce graæ przeciwko Polsce,robi co mo¿e:)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: a z wistu im sz³o 3 BA|pg||
nt|fluffy: specs confirming 1@h is @h or GF, or some onvitational hands balanced|pg||
nt|bouncer: det er dritbra det dere har gjort,så nå er det bare å gi gass :)|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|h2|nt|jaapfr vg: here a close match|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|runnerup: you cant play this out with  normal play so flat |pg||
pc|h3|nt|jaapfr vg: whilst Dutch men are leading 101-26 against Iceland|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hA|mc|8|pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2ST83HKT86DA94CAKQ,S765HAJ73DT7532C7,SAQ94H9DK86CJT642,SKJ2HQ542DQJC9853|sv|o|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: this a simple 3nt NS so coffee break possible|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: almost half way and almost half time|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|an|alerted|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|jaapfr vg: i am sure they will find no 9 in a M|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: and if I am wrong: apologies|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|Vugraphznw: sorry|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: 14 IMPs to USA on board 6, where they played 5H here. Opener could pass after 2@C - 2@S - Pass - 3@S, since his opening was known to be strong. Partner then showed  both minors ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: with 4NT and they played in 5@C.|pg||
pc|h4|nt|brolucius: Fredin paid the price for his more complex weak-or-strong 2@C, combined with his 3@H bid on a 4-card suit.|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
nt|brolucius: It may be a secret, but one rather suspects that Fredin must have some nickname within the Swedish team for his brave/eccentric bidding style.|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cK|nt|jaapfr vg: 9 or 10|pg||
pc|d5|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|jaapfr vg: 9 most likely|pg||
mc|9|nt|brolucius: A Swedish colleague says that he called just 'Fredin' and everyone knows what that means.  He is a very good player, anyway. Otherwise he would not be playing in the QFs of a world ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: championship.|pg||
nt|3for3: closed room playing the other way...and got a diamond lead.  |pg||
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qx|c8|st||md|2ST83HKT86DA94CAKQ,S765HAJ73DT7532C7,SAQ94H9DK86CJT642,SKJ2HQ542DQJC9853|sv|o|nt|vugraphznx: wyniki na http://www.wkbridge2011.nl|pg||
nt|lechcold: 12 lew w trefle, impossible ¿eby to wylicytowaæ|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 1 board late, half time now|pg||
nt|ady: Laria will open|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: players are taking a break|pg||
nt|ady: so am I|pg||
nt|psyck:  yes, N could well pass|pg||
nt|panosk: and many more David |pg||
nt|rv: OR on brd 6 played in 1n from East hand, @s lead sets up too many tricks for defense|pg||
nt|rv: Lauria-Versace did very well to unearth a 4-4 @d fit after 1@c opening and play in @d partial|pg||
nt|rv: I can bet not too many E-W pairs across the field would play brd 6 in @d strain|pg||
nt|psyck:  Deal 7 is uncontested aution other room, so they should get there too|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  i guess the 11 point hands with N/S will be passed and the 10 point hand with Lauria opened|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: restart|pg||
nt|ralfwil: that´s a point Jon, but will set a lot of pressure on partner|pg||
nt|sheila a:  so Egypt over-reaching at both tables and losing a lot of imps|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: I think it motivates you when you have a negative :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: easy reply: it depends   lol|pg||
nt|mdgraham: Dutch men team definitely dangerous|pg||
nt|grebrof: I get some feedbacks on board 6 - if you have an agreement with your P you stick with that - so Fredins 3@h was probably in the system - which makes Fallenius the sinner - or ...|pg||
nt|grebrof: whatever: they lost the board - a tight match is what we want anyway - I seriously doubt that that board will be the last  questionabe decision made in this match :)|pg||
nt|bt:  i think 2@C was obvious|pg||
mb|p|nt|jbgood: sure - and perhaps there was a break in tempo ....|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: i got 5 messages reading: 106-26|pg||
mb|p|nt|mdgraham: as a matter of interest, who and by how much had the carry-over here?|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: usa1 had|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: +16|pg||
nt|bt:  opposite a limited opening bid u dont want the 3 lvele anyvay|pg||
nt|bt:  level|pg||
mb|1N|an|15-16|nt|mdgraham: thanks all - 16 USA1|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: +|pg||
mb|p|nt|mdgraham: so they are being outscored 52-29 at the moment|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: was in RR completely the opposite|pg||
nt|mdgraham: NS 1@d can be 0 cards - best defence to that is probably a natural 2@d overcall|pg||
mb|2C!|nt|rv: bridge played at a fast pace here, 7 brds in 45 mins or so, they have another 90 mins to finish remaining 9 brds|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|lechcold: chocia¿...rebid 2@C u nich to zwykle 6 trefli, wiêc mog¹ popêdziæ|pg||
nt|sheila a:  E looking at 8 playing tricks and his partner has opened a strong NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|sunsamvar:  Sunit is bright young bridge hope for India|pg||
nt|fluffy: 2@h makes the rest of the bidding easy for north I think|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|runnerup: here east made 1  bid more than other table -but north so strong that i hardly matters|pg||
mb|p|nt|ryskiel_: ju¿ tylko 8 VP do 8-go...ale tak¿e 4,  3,5,  2 i 1...to s¹ dru¿yny bezporednio przed nami|pg||
nt|antoniz: nie dzi|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: mówisz Antoni - dzis jest sobota...:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: wyniki open: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 3@D looks a bit strong but seems not to be for NS|pg||
mb|p|nt|antoniz: niech to bêdzie wreszcie mecz dobrze grany i fartowny,bardzo ich podbuduje:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: kobiet: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=882|pg||
nt|rv: you meant Sumit or Sunit, both are:)|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  Yes Sumit|pg||
nt|ralfwil: not the best lead for the defence|pg||
nt|mdgraham: defence will probably take a diamond and two clubs on the go - so this looks like one off|pg||
nt|bt:  it could be that fredins 3@H was not as bad but merely foisted on him by system|pg||
nt|fluffy: but opposite 2@d he might want to show clubs to worry about hearts|pg||
pc|d3|nt|fluffy: nystrom trusts @h3 encouraging signal and the defence quickly sets 5@h tricks|pg||
nt|hlortz: ought to be good for -1|pg||
nt|bt:  they play their 2@C as weak in diamonds or strong, and maybe payed a huge price|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: "you passed in first hand" says Zagorin laughing to Nystrom|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: seems like they are all good friends|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: and know eachother very well|pg||
nt|bt:  they are team mates in the us|pg||
nt|bt:  or have bin idk|pg||
nt|grebrof: good lead|pg||
nt|bt:  anyway this hand is diffuclt, everything offside|pg||
nt|bt:  difficult|pg||
nt|bt:  mayde by N at the other table|pg||
nt|fluffy: the play is very straightforward, you have 8 top tricks and you have time for @s finese to the queen and also one more than can be @sJ or @hA|pg||
nt|bt:  made|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 8 tricks obvious but where is 9th? - |pg||
nt|bt:  all of which fails|pg||
pc|d6|nt|runnerup: Hurd very optimistic|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: If I heard well, W said 2@d showed extra's and East said @D+@H|pg||
nt|mdgraham: limited by not opening 1@c, but it does seem a bit gung-ho |pg||
pc|dQ|nt|vugraphznx: senirow: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=883|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: seniorow*|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s4|nt|ady: defense needs a forcing game |pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  maybe north cud have overcalled 2@C s on his his 2nd turn..|pg||
nt|ralfwil: and already an endplay on S - if E can read the situation|pg||
nt|ralfwil: 3 rounds of @s and after that @c|pg||
nt|ralfwil: when the @s doen´t break|pg||
nt|jbgood: only 1 undoubled in 4@s at the other table - contract on  23 right-handed even and played by N...|pg||
nt|ralfwil: doesn´t....|pg||
nt|ralfwil: but isn´t that play rather obvious?|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|jaapfr vg: sure 1@C=16+ so 1@D max 15|pg||
nt|fluffy: diamonds blocked would let him make the contract even if west had @hAxxx, but @hAJxx is too much|pg||
nt|bt:  at the other table east lead a low heart to the 6, 7 and 9, after that declarer wasnt very unhappy|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|nt|sunsamvar:  and pushed Lauria into 3@H|pg||
nt|rv: yes at some stage Mukherjee needs to shift to @CJ|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 7 of diamonds for heart|pg||
nt|bt:  and if east has @H9 west would have been right|pg||
nt|fluffy: even if bathurst missed the switch he will have another time when in with @sJ|pg||
nt|bt:  so opening 1@C on 4135 and a 10 count, then declaring nt from that side was a winner|pg||
nt|fluffy: it seems a bit odd to lead hearts for fallenius, he opponets had bid hearts and not diamonds|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|h2|nt|fluffy: @sQ doesn't mean spades are 4-2, @sQ is a must card to play from @sQxx since its teh card known to be hold|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ady: 5 obvious losers   but forcing game should beat this |pg||
nt|mdgraham: East has ducked the first diamond, but will get them later|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d2|nt|hlortz: if your spots strog enough might even play from qxxx :)|pg||
pc|dK|nt|fluffy: low club!, looking for something good to happen|pg||
pc|c3|pc|d9|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  with no quick entry to dummy declarer will struggle|pg||
nt|fluffy: notice @c10 was discouraging|pg||
nt|grebrof: I think in general S should unblock at least 2Hs in @s before playing @s|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|nt|ady: now heart ruffed  so definately down|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: better not the K|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: South about to cover|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|runnerup: happy sits so lucky make -could easyly have been down |pg||
pc|cK|nt|rv: now 3 down on accurate defense|pg||
nt|rv: Sumit had to unblock @CJ, Lauria will escape for 2 down|pg||
pc|h3|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg||
nt|ralfwil: I don´t understand this play at all:)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: oeffffff|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h7|nt|ady: force now   |pg||
nt|mdgraham: lots off now|pg||
nt|grebrof: @cs before @s|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|pg||
nt|runnerup: east had 5-4 in reds but !k sing saved the day|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|nt|ryskiel_: seniorzy wyrabiaj¹ ok 50% wyniku Open prowadz¹ 13:0|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 4 down|pg||
pc|s9|nt|rv: he will get a @HT trick in the end|pg||
nt|ady: thats ok|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hA|nt|odysseus69: new leader|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|mdgraham: only fifties|pg||
pc|dT|nt|vugraphznx: South sorry sorry|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Marion claimed the @d7|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: lol|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3SAKJHKJT975D64CQ2,S8H843DQJ9732CK97,SQ742HA2DK8CJT865,ST9653HQ6DAT5CA43|sv|e|nt|jaapfr vg: tougher 3nt then|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: in CR|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|an|alerted|nt|jaapfr vg: then declarer must avoid to lose a @D|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|an|alerted|nt|jaapfr vg: with 2@H and 2@S losers|pg||
mb|d|nt|jaapfr vg: likely down|pg||
nt|brolucius: For most pairs, 1@C would suggest opening bid values.|pg||
mb|p|an|alerted|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: 2@H still forcing?|pg||
nt|meargent: yes|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: must be|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: should i ask him?|pg||
nt|warrens:  David, you just don't understand what an opening bid is anymore|pg||
nt|brolucius: Presumably 21D game-forcing.|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: No, I like to keep my bidding around 10 years out of date. No more, no less. |pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: since when N has an opening bid:)?|pg||
pc|s8|nt|warrens:  4@H looks like fast arrival here=a minimum|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@D is 4th-suit forcing, normally played as game-forcing.|pg||
nt|meargent: does that answer  your question jaap>)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: me out of date too|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: Hurd: sorry but i did not know what to do|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: he added something like : best dummy ever|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: tell him: do not open this garbage:)|pg||
nt|meargent: south will be very disapointed with the position of @DA after wests double|pg||
nt|warrens:  agreed, joey. right now he must be deciding how to play the @H's|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: the good news is that most pairs will play 4@H I assume|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|c5|nt|brolucius: 3NT did go down on a diamond lead at the other table, so USA2 take the lead. This is very well deserved, of course, since they could be 26 IMPs better off if that good heart slam ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: had made.|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|d2|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
nt|warrens:  running all the @H's puts East under a lot of pressure|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|jaapfr vg: and the 5@H-3 had its negative followup as well\|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s7|pc|s9|pg||
pc|c2|nt|brolucius: There is still a long way to go, of course, but I believe there is a rule that the two USA teams have to face each other in the semi-finals (when they both get through) to avoid ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: the possibility of an all-US final. |pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: final:)????|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cJ|nt|jaapfr vg: impossible|pg||
nt|yusufb: ozlem igrenc bi insan beni hayattan soguttu diyo|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|meargent: but with south conviced on the well placed @DA i doubt thats how he will play|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
nt|warrens:  but, since declarer thinks the @D is likely to be onside, he goes the straightforward route|pg||
mc|9|nt|brolucius: I am told that I am correct.|pg||
nt|warrens:  if both US teams win theQF, they play each in the semi's|pg||
nt|warrens:  that's a rule|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: yes correct|pg||
pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SAKJHKJT975D64CQ2,S8H843DQJ9732CK97,SQ742HA2DK8CJT865,ST9653HQ6DAT5CA43|sv|e|nt|rv: this will be interesting 3n contract to play|pg||
nt|rv: and defend as well|pg||
nt|mdgraham: still, it always seems a bit undignfied to go four off|pg||
nt|bt:  yes but not over yet :)|pg||
nt|bt:  and so much for sweden being favoured, right? lol|pg||
nt|fluffy: yes, tomorrow will be a long day, and the team that loses will remmeber it a lot more than the one who wins|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: tomorrow there will be 48 more boards to play|pg||
mb|1N!|nt|runnerup: so mispayed it seems so|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: last hand  n/s can make 3NT|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|vugraphznx: For results: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 1500 hrs bit early for beer|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ryskiel_: Staymanid³o i 3 by³y|pg||
nt|lechcold: mocny trefl teraz|pg||
nt|jacksond: Young USA team deserves to be even further ahead they are playing so well|pg||
nt|odysseus69: unlikely 3NT by North woud be winner|pg||
pc|s8|nt|psyck:  Yes, you'd have expected one of them to bid when they can make game, but neither had a clear bid at any stage|pg||
nt|mdgraham: A Sunday lunchtime pint is an old tradition in England|pg||
nt|grebrof: I guess winning  a QF in the BB should be a decent memory :)|pg||
nt|bt:  sweden playued wel first 24 boards after that its been us|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: I know that if I ever tried to win af QF I would remember it even after I passed away --- and will never happen :)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: ageist comments not PC David|pg||
nt|bt:  that was an obvious but unlucky lead|pg||
nt|fluffy: perhaps true Jan, but you would remember a lor more the semifinals probably|pg||
nt|jacksond: thanks Victor. didnt realise you were a PC man|pg||
nt|odysseus69: but still cant make|pg||
pc|s2|nt|panosk: if they find  J@D|pg||
nt|sheila a:  for a moment I thought S was going to play in 1@c on the 3-2 fit|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: N and east both trying to share candy :)|pg||
pc|s6|nt|ryskiel_: bu³y oczywizda|pg||
nt|rv: Sumit opened 1@c with his better minor in 3rd seat, this bid might prove costly in play of contract since Bhabesh may lead a @c|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: a lot of kibs seem to be thursty though:)|pg||
nt|mdgraham: NS have stolen this - still, not clear how EW find their heart fit|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|sheila a:  if N has to bid, perhaps he should bid the major|pg||
nt|sheila a:  I know it looks a horrible suit|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: North thinking a while before passing, now tells he had the option to transfer to @D|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h3|nt|lechcold: ale rebid 1N na 20PC troszkê mnie dziwi|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: ok 1nt C claim pls Gerbrand:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: I can't claim till play is over|pg||
nt|bt:  yea no make anywhere|pg||
nt|odysseus69: otherwise I would be allowed to make Irish jokes|pg||
nt|grebrof: @hguess here to solve the contract|pg||
nt|grebrof: the odds is the cut, so no shame going down|pg||
nt|grebrof: actually it will always go down|pg||
nt|bt:  i havent hady any reports from rugby world championships, wales was 4th right, where was england and scotland? :)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: ahead of Sweden|pg||
nt|bt:  well that must be comforting for them|pg||
nt|grebrof: well, even if you get some lead, its not always a single|pg||
nt|bt:  i am a new zealander by heart|pg||
nt|bt:  all this mental energy to go one or 2 down, bridge is cruel|pg||
nt|odysseus69: we are all NZ today|pg||
nt|grebrof: Im a moron by heart, but not many knows, so they expect me to be better than I really am :D|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: I am still here - so no breakdown :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: still S thinking|pg||
nt|bt:  thing is if the lead is a singleton, finessing is useless to make|pg||
nt|bt:  with a doubleton and @HQxx they most likely lead something else, unless 2 aces|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: S says "sorry" and is still thinking|pg||
pc|hA|nt|psyck:  even non @c lead, enough tricks on @s finesse|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|h2|nt|fluffy: NS let opps play at the 3 level again|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|garden2005: idziemy na Turczynki? :)|pg||
nt|kamyk: wygl¹da na to, ¿e nasi osi¹gneli przewagê psychuiczna na stole. W ka¿dym razie to, co graj¹ M- S dzisiaj, to nie jest "Symfonia z Nowego wiata":)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: yell:)?|pg||
pc|hK|nt|lechcold: wygl¹da ¿e w tej sekwencji 1N to (16)17-20...szeroki zakres|pg||
nt|rv: normally when partner opens at 1 level in 3rd seat with ostensibly weak hand, he will have a good suit asking pd to lead|pg||
nt|psyck:  or rather on giving up a @s|pg||
nt|mdgraham: ring a bell|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: think they will scare to death if I make noise..|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|hT|nt|ryskiel_: wszystko le¿y dobrze...nawet walet pik:)|pg||
pc|h8|nt|lechcold: aaa, Marek Pietraszek podpowiada, ¿e otwarcie 1N jest jednak "normalne"..wiêc limit tego rebidu jest 18-21|pg||
nt|grebrof: I get some feedback that they know I am a moron, but I think it takes one to know one, so...|pg||
pc|c5|nt|rv: @d lead best for defense, @c lead will make it very easy|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: very silent in here|pg||
nt|mdgraham: that will be annoying for EW - now they know they have a 5/4 heart fit and should have been in the auction|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|grebrof: well - its all for fun this anyway|pg||
nt|bt:  we are all morons but we se all the cards so its very easy then|pg||
nt|odysseus69: might as well play spade king first before taking stock|pg||
nt|fluffy: the normal play now seems to be @sKJ and then the only chance is thar east has @cAK@dA and its endplayed|pg||
nt|fluffy: appart from @dA onside that is|pg||
pc|c2|nt|jaapfr vg: could be 3@H C|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: and 4@C makes?|pg||
nt|fluffy: a stiff @c honnor would work as well|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cJ|nt|grebrof: well, its easier - I actually made mistakes seeing all the cards - I can say that I didnt pay much attention (which in many circumtances I didnt) - but, that doesnt mean I am not ...|pg||
nt|grebrof: interested - Im just being lazy|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|ady: dont think any lead would beat this if accurately played|pg||
nt|bt:  for must of us @DA onside is 50/50|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|bt:  guys here are a little better|pg||
nt|odysseus69: playing on clubs reasonable- just needs AK with East or d ace with West|pg||
pc|d7|nt|rv: on @d lead, declarer's best line is to win in dummy, take @s finesse and run @ds coming to 7 card ending|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|lechcold: Marek zna ten system, bo grywa czasem z Martensem, dziêkujê:)|pg||
pc|c6|nt|hlortz: thats ok so long as u set it...|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|nt|fluffy: the trump position will let east score a spade ruff in dummy, losing 4@d and the last spade for 1 down|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dT|nt|fluffy: no need to cash @sKJ I see, you have the good clubs in dummy and @sQ as entry|pg||
nt|odysseus69: cashing the spade as I suggested would have been mistake|pg||
mc|9|nt|antoniz: kier,trefl do króla i As karo i karo|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: trefl i odegranie asa karo bêdzie potrzebne dla wygody ¿ycia|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: kara ju¿ nie Antoni przytuli³o siê do 13-go kiera|pg||
pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4S865HAJT92DA4CQ52,SAJ2HQ3DQT86CA943,SK7HK865DKJ32CK87,SQT943H74D975CJT6|sv|b|nt|Vugraphznw: we can not have an all usa final|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: I would never disagree if the rules BB did not make that impossible a usa1 usa2 final|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: so final Italy-Netherlands?|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: and we have a new leader|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Jacoby 2NT shows a 4-card (at least) heart raise. Most pairs play it game-forcing, some limit or better.|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|nt|warrens:  this looks pretty sleepy, can make 5|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: after USA -USA final 1977 they created that rule|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: i am told|pg||
nt|brolucius: A very sensible rule. There would be no drama in such a final for an international event.|pg||
nt|meargent: like fredins lead|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: i said "we have a new leader" and I was asked who is WE?|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: i will refrase as "the match has a new leader"|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: sorry David I reread what you said and you were perfectly right from the beginning (misread it)|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
nt|meargent: however slim that lead keeps the def in the game|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: we only saw the 3rd line of you: possibility of an all USA final|pg||
nt|meargent: of course declarer had to missduess trumps which he didnt|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
nt|warrens:  not clear which finesse to start with here, maybe try to ruff out the @D Q|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|hT|pc|dT|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|warrens:  now a club, planning to duck to E|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|nt|jaapfr vg: too much work for us commentators sometimes if many questions and remarks by specs(which are much appreciated though)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cK|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|s3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s5|nt|warrens:  but still ok in the end|pg||
mc|10|nt|brolucius: If the 6@H on board 4 had made (as it deserved), then USA would have picked up 50 IMPs on boards 4-8.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Anyway, still a close match, so anything can happen.|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: WE are all laughing now about Fredin lead...I mean WE the peaple in this room|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: people|pg||
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qx|c10|st||md|4S865HAJT92DA4CQ52,SAJ2HQ3DQT86CA943,SK7HK865DKJ32CK87,SQT943H74D975CJT6|sv|b|nt|panosk: very gd point RV|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: You can also try http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Or else you can go to the excellent dutch site :) :|pg||
nt|jbgood: han prakka på fi en sekser for noen runder sida, og holdt verdens skjennepreken under sammenligninga - til seg selv|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|bt:  peter played well, didnt work, hand|pg||
nt|bt:  next hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|ralfwil: and some imps back to sweden... -2 after a @s lead |pg||
nt|jbgood: sry - that was meant as private:)|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ryskiel_: za Patrioty, tarcze rakietowe, za Kociuszkê, Pulaskiego i Kazimierza Deynê!|pg||
nt|runnerup: ns makes 3nt i think -but east bids 1 of those so no chance|pg||
nt|sheila a:  S did well to make 3@s in the other room after a 3@h opening|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: they are talking now about EW reaching 3NT on the previous board|pg||
nt|fluffy: USA has another excellent result open room|pg||
nt|bt:  fredrik will put him in 4@H and he is hard pressed to go down|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: The swedish captain Jan Kamras is in the room and says "55 minutes left guys"|pg||
nt|fluffy: there is a lot to handle here to bring 10 tricks|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|psyck:  not very clear that hand, as @h cards were not so great|pg||
nt|rv: Sumit has upgraded his hand here|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: not a good lie for n/s playing in spades|pg||
nt|panosk: point is if you hold AQ10x in hearts and Kxx in clubs open 1@H even if playing 5 card majors|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: If you are cheering for sweden and want to see last match, here at 16.45 (about 2 hours from now) against New Zealand|pg||
nt|fluffy: 1 down not so good result, since double dummy it looks 4@h makes on previous board|pg||
mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|bt:  why is making excellent, looks very straightforward|pg||
mb|4H|nt|fluffy: 1NT is 14-16|pg||
nt|fluffy: you need to knock south's ace before he sets up diamonds|pg||
nt|fluffy: the problem is.. wich ace does he hold?|pg||
mb|p|nt|garden2005: tak sie bawi Polll ... ska! (przypomnia³a mi siê opowieæ Karola o kibicach z Czêstochowy)|pg||
nt|antoniz: co za nowy duch w narodzie:)|pg||
nt|panosk: in 3rd place|pg||
nt|rv: good 5 card suit, 17 hcp, he has upgraded to 18 hcp|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 2@C was majors|pg||
nt|jbgood: NZ with the only Norwegian playing in this year's Bermuda Bowl|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: People asking for live feeds, but its not this room!   :  http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live|pg||
mb|p|nt|ryskiel_: podpowiadaj¹ mi i jeszcze za Krzyka Klenczona|pg||
nt|rv: 1@s by Bhabesh shows 5@s, double would have shown 4@s|pg||
nt|ady: need a diamond switch at trick 2|pg||
nt|ralfwil: 4@s looks easier to make than get a better score in 2@d dbl|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: kontra na 2@D - wywo³awcza do kierów...odwa¿na|pg||
pc|d8|nt|mrace: if they duck @C 2 times shift to @s |pg||
nt|mrace: sry priv|pg||
nt|fluffy: what happens with time penalty when its both's fault? they both lose IMPs?|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|lechcold: tak siê zwykle grywa jeli wrogowie u¿ywaj¹ s³abego BA|pg||
nt|ady: or possible to make|pg||
nt|psyck:  yes, good upgrade with no wastage in short suit|pg||
nt|mdgraham: you can play 2@h as forcing in this sequence, but obviously EW play 3@h as at least 5/5  |pg||
pc|d9|nt|ady: no mistake|pg||
nt|rv: @HT was discouraging, obvious shift is @ds|pg||
nt|ady: yes|pg||
nt|psyck:  yes, contract is prayerless now|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: re|pg||
nt|bt:  @SA onside, @DQ,onside may misguess hearts and still make|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|sheila a:  well, they won't be accused of underbidding on this board|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: spanish internetconn  too weak:(|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: East leaves to the bathroom|pg||
nt|fluffy: before @d lead teher were 2@c, 1@s and half a heart loser|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: I guess so Gonzalo|pg||
nt|odysseus69: looks easy now |pg||
nt|vugraphznx: hard to do anything else I guess|pg||
pc|hK|nt|rv: better and butter defense for a world class pair|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ryskiel_: uruchomi³a siê aktywnoc narodowa - podpowiadaj¹ mi za: stonkê ziemniaczan¹|pg||
nt|rv: bread|pg||
nt|mdgraham: if 2@h is forcing, you can use 3@h as a splinter agreeing diamonds  |pg||
pc|h2|nt|ryskiel_: ..za wisy...|pg||
nt|mdgraham: will make all 13 now, with the delicous breaks in both majors |pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: b25 was for E in OR easier to X 1nt than here in CR so they went to the right 3@H C|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|nt|ryskiel_: ..za Ja³tê...za Wilno, za Grodno i Lwów...oj chyab to nie oni:)|pg||
nt|sheila a:  not sure about N's dbl|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|rv: now likely 2 down|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  unless u r butter fingered |pg||
pc|dA|nt|fluffy: perhaps this was the best possible switch to defeat the contract, but as teh cards lie, @hs are now blocked and declarer will end up with 2 overtricks|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|nt|jbgood: i get questions about the KO stages|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|barbyh: hello barbara from Las Vegas|pg||
nt|mdgraham: HI :)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: plus 1 now|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|bt:  he did do something strange here|pg||
pc|dK|nt|runnerup: @d wasnt the best in that point -@s -but hard to see |pg||
pc|d5|nt|jbgood: I think team  1 get to pick their opp first, and get a carry over which i think is half of the margin from the round robin|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: hoi:)|pg||
pc|c2|nt|garden2005: po tym meczu wizy do USA znios¹ :)|pg||
nt|psyck:  There was a @d lead other room last deal, Kushari made 3N on suggested line|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1ST6HK42DKQ9CKQ853,SA43H876D84CAT972,SQ98752HADA753C64,SKJHQJT953DJT62CJ|sv|o|nt|jaapfr vg: here also but none can hear that:)|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: It is true that Board 8 was rather lucky for them, where a 10-point opening bid happened to put 3NT the lucky way round. So, luck does even out.|pg||
pc|sT|nt|jaapfr vg: livestream=seeing slow video|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: this will be a hard fought match...i bet we will have all 6 sets|pg||
nt|meargent: NS light opening style cost them here with north being afraid to compete in @Ss|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sQ|nt|brolucius: We will need to, because some of the other matches may not run the distance. We need something to watch.|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: sorry lost the livestream link|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: lool very true|pg||
nt|warrens:  playing support X's, Hurd knew his partner didn't have 3@s's, so he didn't compete|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: we will entertain you with Transnationals , starting tomorrow probably|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: esp 37-141 Iceland-Holland|pg||
nt|warrens:  but here 3@S was making|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: ooops... i used WE again... questions coming lool|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: usa-israel 118-69|pg||
nt|meargent: surely north owed at least one more bid with his 6 card suit 6 loser|pg||
nt|brolucius: I watched the second set of that and the Israel N/S had a poor set.|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|s9|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: Holland was indecently strong 1st set i was|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|d6|pc|h4|mc|8|nt|jaapfr vg: not because i am Dutch but amazing how very limited we saw Dutch teams for vuegraph|pg||
nt|warrens:  we'll be seeing more of them :)|pg||
pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1ST6HK42DKQ9CKQ853,SA43H876D84CAT972,SQ98752HADA753C64,SKJHQJT953DJT62CJ|sv|o|nt|vugraphznx: East: they were mercifull not to dbl|pg||
nt|runnerup: well slam without @s control |pg||
nt|psyck:  Italians reached 4@s here by S, which could be allowed to make|pg||
mb|1D|nt|mdgraham: a pessimistic spec says West should finesse @s8 in case spades break 6-0|pg||
nt|barbyh: some form of Flannery?|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: mb some see that as careful bidding 4@S but a slam is around 10% chance b26|pg||
mb|p|nt|garden2005: piêæ dzwonków Malina :)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: ch³opaki uwa¿ajcie - dacie palec a Yankesi ze¿r¹ was zaraz ca³ych|pg||
nt|psyck:  on deal 10|pg||
nt|rv: transfer positive response works like a charm on deal 10|pg||
nt|ady: grand slam|pg||
nt|fluffy: so, what does 2@c show?, 6+ cards?|pg||
nt|fluffy: denis 4 card major?|pg||
nt|mdgraham: but then South would hold J109763 and would surely play the nine  |pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: solid reply Mike:)|pg||
mb|1S|nt|psyck:  got a @sQ lead too, & on the road to making i think|pg||
nt|mdgraham: Dutch men up 110-33 now|pg||
nt|bt:  anyway one imp to my team :) i root for sweden always, cant hide it|pg||
mb|3H|nt|kamyk: i za ten ch³am, którym nas zalewaj¹ w TV:)|pg||
nt|rv: strong hand with tenaces playing, person on lead has most of the values|pg||
nt|hlortz: maybe 6 good ones or as you say no 4cd Maj|pg||
nt|fluffy: ok, thx to spec, 2@c denies 4c major, and its 6+ @c unless 4@d-5@c|pg||
mb|p|nt|garden2005: pytaj!|pg||
nt|fluffy: 1@d is precision style, to later show 11-13 balanced normally|pg||
nt|grebrof: as we can see, USA2had a good run - someone pointed out they are a young team, but so are Sweden too|pg||
mb|4H|nt|garden2005: maj¹ kara :)|pg||
nt|garden2005: Martens na 100% poprawi³ siê teraz w siodle :)|pg||
nt|jbgood: Venice > http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-venice-cup |pg||
nt|sheila a:  no need for N to bid when he had some @c|pg||
mb|4S|nt|ryskiel_: zeby tylko siod³o wytrzyma³o|pg||
nt|ady: 13 tricks in no-trumps as they lay    but 7 spades better |pg||
nt|rv: as CK predicted, Italians may extend lead|pg||
nt|rv: 3@d shows a strong @s raise, it is not @d splinter to the best of my knowledge|pg||
nt|panosk: if 3@D spade fir and @D shortage Lauria wont stop easily|pg||
nt|ralfwil: Looked makeableif declarer had player for a crossruff before a club to dummy|pg||
nt|ralfwil: makeable....|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 2@h=both majors, 0-10, 4+/4+|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: great ccontract 4@H (2@H works wonderfully here)|pg||
nt|mdgraham: anyone know the Italy score? |pg||
nt|odysseus69: tempting to bid 4S|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: 1@h was transfer positive|pg||
nt|fluffy: 2NT sounds like transfer|pg||
nt|fluffy: nystrom isn't scared :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fluffy: its common to play transfers after 1x-2M, I guess after 2@c-2M works the same|pg||
mb|p|nt|garden2005: do ucha! do ucha! ... tak sie bawi Pol.. ska!!!|pg||
nt|kamyk: sycê oko urod¹ otwarcia 2@S:)|pg||
nt|garden2005: ma to co potrzeba, nie zcepiaj siê Karol :)|pg||
nt|jbgood: live scores Bermuda > http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl |pg||
nt|josj: 18-17|pg||
nt|josj: this set|pg||
nt|fluffy: with that spade suit I would at least hesitate more to do so|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|lechcold: w³anie...MArtens wcale nie by³ pewien ¿e to wygraj¹...np rêka KDxxx, xx, Dxxx, xx - z góry bez 1|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: seniorzy [p tropach 25:0 z kangurami|pg||
nt|fluffy: he might think that even if it doesn't make 4@h might make as well|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|runnerup: lucky ipms to Usa2|pg||
nt|psyck:  I will be difficult to get the quality of the black suits across & so not easy to bid grand|pg||
nt|rv: 4@d is cue, 4@h is cue or possibly last train|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|cT|nt|rv: they will get there since Lauria asking, once all keys are there he will bid 5n and Versace will jump to GS with source of tricks|pg||
nt|panosk: he will bid %NT at some point i think and Vercace will accept with his clubs|pg||
nt|panosk: *5NT sorry|pg||
nt|rv: 5@h shows all 2 key cards w/o @SQ, now on 5n, easy to bid grand with source of tricks|pg||
pc|c6|nt|sheila a:  :) this auction won't die|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: it just did :)|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|panosk: or 6@D like a fellow viwer said|pg||
nt|panosk: *viewer|pg||
nt|rv: I am not sure what 6@d means, does it ask for second round @d control?|pg||
nt|psyck:  they reached 7@s after 5N bid other room|pg||
nt|rv: I much prefer 5n|pg||
nt|panosk: 6@D or any other similar bid in their system says "have interest in 7 spades do u have something more that you didnt say and can help"|pg||
nt|ady: south might have been more active  after 1@D overcall to give much less room    |pg||
nt|rv: Versace still possibly has enough to bid grand|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: N asking|pg||
nt|panosk: usually "somethng more" is a long suit that runs pretty easily, a source of tricks|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: hoi JJ|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 93-37, apparently|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Running scores BB: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qphase=QF&qroundno=2&qtournid=885|pg||
nt|mdgraham: thanks|pg||
pc|hT|nt|vugraphznx: Running scores VC: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qphase=QF&qroundno=2&qtournid=886|pg||
nt|fluffy: 4 obvious losers, 3 imps most likelly|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 3 more imps for US|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|nt|remo: 6@D= need total help in @C|pg||
nt|rv:  well done|pg||
nt|rv:  Versace had source of tricks in @cs as well as second round @d control, must have evaluated had enough to bid GS|pg||
nt|ady: well bid   but given too much space once north entered I feel|pg||
nt|rv:  yes I might have bid 3@h on 1@h to show fit jump|pg||
nt|panosk: maybe 2@D beter for N hand |pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  @S has been bid for the first time at the 7 level |pg||
nt|vugraphznx: hm they played from Es side|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: wrong side led|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|rv:  North could have bid 2@d, South could have bid 3@h as fit jump to show @hs+@ds|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 0-10 is a pretty wide range for a two-suited opening - I used to play this 2@h, but with a 6-10 range|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Running scores SB: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qphase=QF&qroundno=2&qtournid=887|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ady: Bocchi also overcalled 1@D in OR    but still space was not taken away|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: @D10|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: usa2-sweden 20-40 rather surprising|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2SJ8765HA8DKQ5CK87,STHKQJT64D4CAT942,SAQ4H32DAJT986CQ5,SK932H975D732CJ63|sv|n|nt|jaapfr vg: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ty|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: because the Dutch are mainly on stepbridge (a very local only Dutch site)|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
nt|meargent: well done fredin he blew his opponents out of the auction|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: i am told|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h5|nt|brolucius: fredin ruffs high (with the @HJ) in case this will give him more trump entries to dummy later.|pg||
nt|meargent: 4@Ss is cold and 4@Hs might make|pg||
nt|brolucius: South is contemplating a duck to thwart him.|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg||
nt|warrens:  this will be down at least one,  can declarer get to dummy twice?  best now is a @S by S and then a @D by N|pg||
nt|warrens:  limiting declarer to one entry|pg||
nt|warrens:  so that he'll have to guess who has the doubleton @C|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|nt|jaapfr vg: after 8 days 3 sessions also a commentator ""get square eyes""|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h6|pc|d9|pc|h7|pc|s5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|brolucius: The @H7 is an entry after declarer's unblocking.|pg||
pc|dT|nt|jaapfr vg: unbelieveble the operators are functioning permanently at such a high level (Traian included:)|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|nt|warrens:  down 2 now, but won't matter much if his teammates get to 4@S|pg||
nt|meargent: west needed to play @C from hand to makee|pg||
nt|meargent: sorry to go 1 down|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg||
nt|warrens:  oh, he's tapped out, so down 3 unless he ducks a club|pg||
nt|brolucius: You can see how disastrous it would have been if South covered the @CJ with the @CK.|pg||
nt|warrens:  ok, -2|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SJ8765HA8DKQ5CK87,STHKQJT64D4CAT942,SAQ4H32DAJT986CQ5,SK932H975D732CJ63|sv|n|nt|ryskiel_: a seniorom w tym rozdiu przeciwnicy wyrzebili w licytacji 3 piki!|pg||
nt|kamyk: w otwartym to rozdanie mia³o ciekawy przebieg|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  or 4@D taking away all the space|pg||
nt|mdgraham: good hand for the system, that|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 27 good board usa|pg||
nt|odysseus69: surprisingly North did not risk 3S in open room|pg||
mb|1H|nt|fluffy: some would open 4@h with west's cards|pg||
mb|2D|nt|lechcold: zauwa¿ylicie, ¿e nasz vugraf w ogóle nie robi ¿adnych b³êdów??|pg||
mb|p|nt|mdgraham: will North stretch to a strog club...yes|pg||
nt|jacksond: that is 40 unanswered imps to the slightly younger USA side|pg||
nt|fluffy: but the things are going well for US now, no need to create swings|pg||
nt|bt:  eh no|pg||
nt|grebrof: theres a lot of dbl-scores going the americans way now - not like the "lucky" slam/gameswings - for us playing this for awhile, 3 cuts to make a game/slam is not considered being ...|pg||
nt|grebrof: brilliant at most times|pg||
nt|bt:  40-1 lol|pg||
nt|jacksond: missed the 1 imp on board 10|pg||
nt|odysseus69: got to play 4S and not 3N T|pg||
mb|2H!|nt|kamyk: tzn. 11-te|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 0-7|pg||
nt|barbyh: 8 tricks should qualify|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: if ew no noise here to 4@H-1|pg||
nt|mdgraham: so much for a good board usa - lose 1|pg||
nt|bt:  that was huge 1 imp|pg||
mb|2N!|nt|lechcold: wszystko idzie jakby to komputer wyk³ada³ odzywki i karty:)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: tak 11|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: czasem sie zdarza :) zauwazyliscie, ze jak przekazuje z pokoju, w ktorym graja Jassem i Martens, to Polska wygrywa? :)|pg||
nt|ady: quieter hand   20-20   and fairly flat|pg||
nt|panosk: spades win being nobler :)|pg||
nt|rv:  I presume Saha will pass here|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 2nt is explained as "Good-bad"|pg||
nt|fluffy: Jan we want to know if 2@h shows @ds or @s, can you see anything?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 2NT is clubs but distributiona I suspect|pg||
nt|grebrof: another good thing about the usa now, is that they dont know if they are good or now, so they will still be aggressive|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: and Bathurst wrote "This is a bad competetive hand"|pg||
nt|fluffy: good bad meaning that he has a weak competitive hand|pg||
mb|d|nt|odysseus69: and 2H might be spades but probably just a forcing bid|pg||
nt|bt:  some say that a team giving up less than 2 imps per board is doing well and will usually win, they both are here|pg||
mb|3H|nt|vugraphznx: chyba wiem w ktorym pokoju usiasc w nastepnym meczu na Wlochy :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 5 boards and 40 min, should be ok the director said|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 6@h 3@c 1@d?|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: y 2@H-3@H made it easy in OR|pg||
nt|bt:  just barely|pg||
mb|3N|nt|lechcold: to prosimy jako tak siê ustawiæ na kolejne mecze, ¿eby ..no w³anie:)|pg||
nt|jbgood: I understand the the Open room has been closed down for a while - may be the reason for lack of comparisons|pg||
nt|grebrof: 3nt is diabolic|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: ns has most of the points but notrh now only passes -because he has enemy suits -still south active|pg||
nt|rv:  N-S pair O/C very lite, here they will play transfers, so 2@s shows courtsey/weak raise, 2@h would be good raise|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: if south has a weaker hand, he can bid 2@d (Multi)|pg||
nt|mdgraham: Ah, I see - hearts 4-0 offside|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 2@S1@D1@H losers|pg||
nt|odysseus69: may "save"|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznx: Nadim almost passed|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: znany i nie do koñca rozwi¹zany problem "pustego dubla" po otwarciu 1N|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: what a great PASS by N|pg||
pc|hK|nt|sheila a:  N perhaps too embarrassed by his initial @d to bid 2@d |pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: helped by the 1nt W|pg||
nt|mdgraham: indeed  |pg||
nt|barbyh: amazing|pg||
nt|bt:  yea nice lead by west|pg||
nt|bt:  ;)|pg||
pc|h2|nt|vugraphznx: Nadim called director, but the play can go on|pg||
nt|runnerup: after pass 500 easyer than this -which can go down -Hurd missed that  -but he must have his reasons |pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: if in OR also 3@H I will eat all cards ok:)?|pg||
nt|grebrof: Im sorry to say, but 3nt here is isrespecting your TMs|pg||
pc|h5|nt|garden2005: ja go rozwi¹za³em :)|pg||
nt|lechcold: -5 |pg||
nt|kamyk: OK, bêdzie mniej bola³o|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: it's about souths slow bid|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: North disagrees|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: North agrees :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Director is here, and he will wait till play finishes|pg||
nt|panosk: gd 2@S bid is 2@H?|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|fluffy: so 2@h is probably jsut a good raise, too bad for NS since the only making game between 3NT 4@s and 5@d despite all of them being reasonable is 4@s|pg||
pc|hT|nt|fluffy: thx again Dennis|pg||
pc|h3|nt|vugraphznx: presumably|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: @d probably 5-5, so trumps will split|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|pg||
nt|barbyh: I'd like to see that !|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: is 3@H not a bit modest?|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: if N can pass it|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: after 1@D she has a very good hand imo|pg||
nt|odysseus69: South had to bid 2S rather than 2H and maybe once West showed clubs and east raised hearts he should have tried 3S rather than 3NT|pg||
nt|fluffy: and this one is 3 down most likelly|pg||
nt|grebrof: well, lets see what happens after the 6 @DS|pg||
nt|odysseus69: Fredin will be disappointed to lose points for 4H-2|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: I dont think he will run @ds|pg||
nt|fluffy: the problem is, there won't be 6@d, there might be 3 if you don't wanna lsoe your obvious chance of @sK onside|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: how should he win after that|pg||
nt|odysseus69: no problem for defence|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: @s finesse or sneak a @c // I guess @s|pg||
nt|grebrof: ok - IF the @s finesse is on - how many tricks in @s?|pg||
nt|bt:  i think mathematics are only relevant as for making game or not, they are not bidding 6@S at the other table|pg||
nt|grebrof: 10 "for sure" - sometimes we forget that teams are about making the contract|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|sheila a:  not much can go wrong here for declarer|pg||
pc|d4|nt|fluffy: the hands are fitting so well again, this time for NS, and nytrom will have no trobule making 4@h when trumps are 3-3|pg||
pc|d6|nt|barbyh: 5 loser hand|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|ady: may make this if guessing KX spades|pg||
nt|rv:  Please access http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=883 for running scores from seniors|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  what is 2@C then RV ?|pg||
nt|fluffy: 3-2|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: y but if 1@D 0-7|pg||
nt|barbyh: has to have specific cards|pg||
nt|grebrof: well - I have seen stranger contracts than this make|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 5 discards no problem for West |pg||
pc|sJ|nt|runnerup: east took his own entry away|pg||
pc|sT|nt|rv:  Please access http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881 for running scores from Open|pg||
nt|ady: not now|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|mdgraham: An ace and a king is qute good for a negative 1@d though |pg||
nt|barbyh: on the cusp |pg||
nt|bt:  for sure but thing is when west has that hand there is no reasonable problem, none|pg||
nt|odysseus69: marked with 11 cards in his 2 suits so spade finesse not fancied|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: sorry if its wrong partner ---- says S --- and take @sA|pg||
nt|fluffy: when did west show 11 cards?|pg||
nt|bt:  so 5 imps to the us|pg||
nt|fluffy: 2NT can be a competitive hand with hearts|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3S653H86DQT9CQT943,SQT7HQJ32DK86CK75,SKJ9HA95DA32CAJ82,SA842HKT74DJ754C6|sv|b|nt|brolucius: South knew that declarer could not get to dummy again, so it would be pointless to cover.|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|Vugraphznw: 40-16 for usa2 this set|pg||
nt|warrens:  I'm told they're in 3NT at the other table, which is also down|pg||
nt|warrens:  N/S play 14-16 nt, so N is too strong for 1NT|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Michael Rosenberg likes to claim that he 'never' passes a one-bid. We will see if South does the same. Yes! |pg||
mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|jaapfr vg: better line for W was @HK and then x@C and not another @H|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: East expects his side to have a fit somewhere.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: West bids at the minimum level, of course, because his partner could not bid over 1@C.|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: EW lost their momentum the last 8 boards imo|pg||
pc|h5|nt|brolucius: Their truck was hit by a 37-IMP vehicle coming in the other direction.|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: lool|pg||
nt|warrens:  3@H looks like a hard hand to play.  could lose 2!'s, 1@H, 3@D's and 1@C.  I predict -2|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: Fallenius said : a little bit agressive lool|pg||
nt|warrens:  2@S's|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: screen closed now...Fredin asking about 3c bid|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: be honest would not most of us reopen as E?|pg||
nt|meargent: true agressive but fallenius always doubles in this situation|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg||
nt|brolucius: It seems possible that 3@C would have been made, so E/W have some margin to play with.|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|s6|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|meargent: shortness must always strain to take auction|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: i can not believe those 10 hcp 1st hand openers who modestly pass here as E|pg||
nt|warrens:  ok, now N thrown in for the first time|pg||
nt|brolucius: Obvious to double.|pg||
nt|warrens:  I think best is Ace and a @C|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: 5 more for the american youngsters on brd 12|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
nt|warrens:  pitch doesn't help much|pg||
nt|meargent: a lucky gain when it well could have been a 10 imp loss|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: as in most sports see what happens when a catastrophe does hit (a) player(s) it gets its negative followup afterthat|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, on 12, Sweden reached the unlucky 3NT when 4@S would have made. So, Fredin's well-conceived 4@H opening at this table did not net the expected swing in his direction.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|d4|nt|jaapfr vg: especially golf players have to fight like hell to overcome that mentally|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pg||
nt|brolucius: It's easier for commentators, I find. If you make a really stupid comment, you can just keep quiet for 10 minutes while you recover. The players have to get straight back into the ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: action after a big mistake. |pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s4|nt|warrens:  now I'm guessing Q of @S (hoping the 9 falls), then a low @S, pitch one @D on the @S 8 and take the@D finesse for  -2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s7|pc|s9|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: or you say : sorry I was wrong and most specs appreciate (whilst players can not : mb that has to be changed in the future)|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: 3 boards to go after this..around 22 mins|pg||
nt|warrens:  Hurd being careful, but he must know it's safer to play another @C|pg||
nt|warrens:  safe|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: it started very fast but............|pg||
pc|c8|pc|hK|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s8|nt|warrens:  ok, very good defense gets 200|pg||
pc|dT|mc|7|nt|jaapfr vg: as predicted by warren earlier -2|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: South put the diamond ten on the table and said Good luck to you  loool|pg||
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qx|c13|st||md|3S653H86DQT9CQT943,SQT7HQJ32DK86CK75,SKJ9HA95DA32CAJ82,SA842HKT74DJ754C6|sv|b|nt|rv:  2 hrs 20 mins for 16 brds, approx 8.5 mins per brd|pg||
nt|ady: yes they are quick   they defenced last hand quicker than I could type|pg||
nt|panosk: after so many days of playing all these hours agaist top teams in the world, wd|pg||
nt|sheila a:  EW somewhat over-enthusiastic in the other room|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: meanwhile sweden picked up a few imps|pg||
nt|grebrof: those of you thinking that sneaking a @c is an option - I agree with Bertheau - it was NEVER an otion|pg||
mb|1C!|nt|ryskiel_: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=|pg||
nt|lechcold: to mo¿e nie byæ remisowe rozdanie|pg||
nt|garden2005: moze by tak 4@s usta³o?|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: open http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: yes normally so |pg||
nt|fluffy: well he thought otherwise and he was right, so this maes me wrong msot likelly|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|lechcold: +8:)|pg||
nt|lechcold: przecie¿ MArtens nie bêdzie ucieka³|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: I think table result will stand|pg||
nt|runnerup: isnt there screens |pg||
nt|sheila a:  looks like 1NT is a transfer to @c|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: on board 8, 9 and 10|pg||
mb|1N|an|17-19|nt|vugraphznx: there are|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: +2 sorry:)|pg||
nt|kamyk: @H A i chwila grozy:)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: byle nie asem kier Krzysiu b³agam:(:(:(|pg||
nt|fluffy: 1@d is antisystemic bid, treating the hand as balanced|pg||
nt|fluffy: 11-13|pg||
mb|p|nt|garden2005: chyba nawet @hA nie wypuszcza|pg||
nt|lechcold: mo¿e i asem kier|pg||
nt|fluffy: the system says this should be opened in 2@c but its easy to see why he doesn't like it when 2@c shows 6@c 90% of the time or more|pg||
nt|hlortz: and those clubs are a bit thin|pg||
mb|p|nt|garden2005: z dreszczykiem :) dla Martensa|pg||
nt|runnerup: so who knew which player was thinking|pg||
nt|rv:  North's double is support showing 3@h|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: psychologically it is fine to overcome a -16 imp carryover and leading after 32 boards|pg||
nt|mdgraham: as long as you are still leading after 96|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: or being close|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: also true|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 121-33 Dutch men|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 2NT was 2 suited - maybe 6-4 was possible but it felt like 6-5 to me and Berteau|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ryskiel_: faktycznie trzeci trefelek czyma|pg||
nt|kamyk: na szczêcie atu 3-0|pg||
pc|h6|nt|vugraphznx: it was clear it was south, tray stayed long at SW side, and it was not a auction to think long for west|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: my site tells 45-109|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|sheila a:  W delighted that partner didn't dbl again|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 3@C for the third board in succession|pg||
nt|grebrof: 16+|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|jbgood: 5-1 fit may do ok ... |pg||
nt|mdgraham: on the previous board - the jump to 4@S is fine, so maybe the 1@s overcall wasn't such a good idea|pg||
nt|barbyh: anyone know what 2 sp is?|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: who I must believe?|pg||
nt|fluffy: I don't paly this convention but I thoiugh you also bid 2NT with 7 good hearts and 11-12 points or so|pg||
nt|grebrof: 1@D0-7|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|nt|lechcold: teoretycznie chyba @SA jest najbezpieczniejszy (o ile mo¿na mówiæ o bezpieczeñstwie)|pg||
pc|hK|nt|runnerup: ok -so no use for those anymore -bad |pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|rv:  for academic interest, Versace wouldn't have relished playing in 1@s double, he will struggle to make 5 tricks:)|pg||
pc|hT|nt|ryskiel_: ju¿ wita³ siê z gêsi¹|pg||
pc|s3|nt|lechcold: wyrabiamy w razie czego tylko 1 lewê|pg||
nt|mdgraham: I think 2@s was a transfer to clubs |pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|pg||
nt|rv:  even 4 tricks may not be there|pg||
nt|rv:  no one penalizes opponents at 1 level though:)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|mdgraham: looking at Note 2 on the CC |pg||
pc|c3|nt|vugraphznx: South told west the wrong thing|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: but it didn't matter|pg||
nt|fluffy: best defence seems to me to force declarer with hearts|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|c8|nt|fluffy: nystrom carefull won @hA to be able to return a low one had declarer got @hQ stiff|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: grue apologized when he saw the dummy, probably not happy with his own bidding|pg||
nt|odysseus69: well East supported hearts so presumably 3|pg||
pc|d4|nt|mdgraham: the next set starts about an hour after this one finishes |pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 20 kibs did inform me about score different but last were all 121-33 after correcting b27 (case closed pls)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: and ty|pg||
nt|mdgraham: that is a large margin|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: pls stop informing me kibs sorry|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|fluffy: best defence I think was to win @cK and play another club, but that was double dummy|pg||
pc|h7|nt|vugraphznx: on board 12 bathurst-zagorin missed the 4@h, so another 10 imps to sweden|pg||
nt|mdgraham: at least with 4@sx in the other room on the last board, Jaap doesn't need to go fetch the ketchup |pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: why ketchup:)?|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d3|nt|grebrof: this match maybe gives Zia a little drawback in his theory saying that you should be playing +60% of the contracts - the swedes have not been lucky this session anyway|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s5|pg||
nt|rv:  I remember SA beating Italians in QFs of BB a few years back by playing unconventional bridge|pg||
nt|psyck:  the other room is even faster than here, thay are all eager to attack the lunch room|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: in the quarter finals they play 6x16 boards|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: today and tomorrow 3 sessions of 16|pg||
nt|hlortz: so 2 full days then|pg||
nt|fluffy: it will be a long trip to the semi finals|pg||
nt|hlortz: as gonzalo said the heart tap is going to beat 3@S for sure|pg||
nt|fluffy: can't see what alternative is grue thinking about, if you don't ruff you get another heart for sure|pg||
nt|fluffy: perhaps thinking with @sQ to enter dummy?|pg||
nt|fluffy: in north is balanced as the bidding shows|pg||
nt|fluffy: the he probably has @sJ10 stiff|pg||
nt|odysseus69: Sweden were very lucky in the slam which went down on 3-0 trump break|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s2|nt|ryskiel_: a swoj¹ drog¹ - czy nie nale¿y wychodziæ asem pik?|pg||
nt|fluffy: you can still overtake @sQ if that's the case, why thinking on this trick is beyond me|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|ady: play winners now till east ruffs|pg||
pc|c2|nt|rv:  sometimes you feel you can beat these guys by playing conventional bridge, they are far more accurate and better prepared than you|pg||
nt|hlortz: tired so rechecking his thinking to avoid silly mistake|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: he's saying it's an interesting hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: he had a plan, but no thinks again|pg||
pc|s4|nt|mdgraham: to help eat the cards - but they weren't in 3@H|pg||
pc|c9|nt|rv:  can't beat|pg||
nt|bt:  now diamonds are frozen|pg||
nt|odysseus69: diamonds dead|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: S wants the overtrick|pg||
nt|ady: or just play 3rd round of black suit and smother east trumps|pg||
nt|panosk: somehow it feels that 3NT beter contract|pg||
nt|ady: 3rd round of spades|pg||
pc|cT|nt|fluffy: he must be seeing something I don't, well that's why he is in BB Qf and I'm comentating :)|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d9|nt|panosk: regardless of trump break|pg||
nt|rv:  Versace-Lauria are topping Butler scores, we can see why based on their performance here|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|rv:  as many specs, they are ruthlessly annihilating opps|pg||
nt|ady: trump smother |pg||
nt|jbgood: I am constantly being asked why Norway doesnt play here - the simple reason is that they didnt qualify. So GeO Tislevoll is th only Norwegian playing the Bermuda Bowl - for the ...|pg||
nt|jbgood: Kiwis|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d8|pg||
pc|s8|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|s9|pg||
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qx|o14|st||md|4SQ52HAK963D7CKQ76,SKT874H7542D982CA,SAJ63HJDAKJ65CJT4,S9HQT8DQT43C98532|sv|o|nt|Vugraphznw: Fredin asked ..what do you have? and south showed his cards all laughing|pg||
mb|p|nt|warrens:  this looks like a straightforward 3NT|pg||
mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|jaapfr vg: a bit freaky board here|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: but 9 tricks for sure|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: sweet lwead|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: but most of us would lead @S|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|c3|pc|s2|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: if he gives a @H now|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 11 tricks|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|c9|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: ok SD a bit more logic to finesse @D|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|s6|mc|10|nt|brolucius: It has been a very strong performance by the young USA2 team. Since their unlucky swing out on board 4 they have accumulated 47 IMPs to 1. Still another 2 boards and 48 boards to ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: play tomorrow.|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: but I liked my line better:)|pg||
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qx|c14|st||md|4SQ52HAK963D7CKQ76,SKT874H7542D982CA,SAJ63HJDAKJ65CJT4,S9HQT8DQT43C98532|sv|o|nt|lechcold: przeca piszê:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: told @H void, |pg||
nt|mdgraham: small swing to USA here|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: closer and closer|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: ale mnie nie czytasz:(|pg||
nt|runnerup: a bit under 50% slam here|pg||
mb|1H|nt|runnerup: if he would have taken q @s and 10 of @d .south must swich to @c or north is szused -ofcause these guys will -but nice hand |pg||
mb|1S|nt|lechcold: 6,5 VP do strefy awansu|pg||
nt|kamyk: no, jest w miarê p³askie - i tak niech juz do konca - doæ emocji|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: bo kiedy muszê zjeæ obiad Lechu - sorry|pg||
nt|ady: 9 tricks for e/w in hearts|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 4@D C best Ew|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 4@S too high|pg||
nt|fluffy: limited openings might make nystrom just blast teh practical 3NT|pg||
nt|odysseus69: quiet 3NTfor breather|pg||
mb|d!|nt|runnerup: and 2 @d was? |pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|vugraphznx: South said surprise when he saw 3@S|pg||
nt|runnerup: so this balanced had 5-4-3-1 in it ok|pg||
nt|sheila a:  straightforward 3NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|sheila a:  this is the last round of qualifying for the quarter-finals|pg||
nt|mdgraham: immediate transfer. One weakness with 2NT as transfer is that you might not know the fit if South raises North's suit|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: pass|pg||
nt|fluffy: they play Negative free bids over double, will they play them over 1@s also? |pg||
mb|2D|nt|jaapfr vg: i miss 3nt bid|pg||
nt|mdgraham: here East has seven diamonds, so that doesn't apply, but it might on other hands|pg||
nt|mdgraham: I'd expect at least Axx in diamonds for 3NT|pg||
nt|barbyh: dont see how she can sit for this|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 3nt bid W is to me selling same hand 2x|pg||
nt|barbyh: right|pg||
nt|mdgraham: and, perhaps, slightly better spades |pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: and might put E on the wrong foot by passing now|pg||
nt|barbyh: what if partner had qjx of diamonds?Shed make the same bid|pg||
nt|mdgraham: I bet East will pass|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: mb operator will UNDO the 3nt:)|pg||
nt|mdgraham: Not sure about that. Aces and kings, so the suit runs|pg||
nt|fluffy: seems so, otherwise he would had bid 2@d|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: jeden mecz bardzo trudny (ITA), jeden trudny (ICELAND), jeden doæ ³atwy (INDIE), jeden bardzo ³atwy (CHILE)|pg||
nt|lechcold: to nam zosta³o|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: przypominam ze o 16.45 na BBO Bermuda Bowl Polska-Wlochy ponownie z przekazem video i Senior Bowl Polska-USA1|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: West alerted after some thought|pg||
nt|rv:  for Indian fans, Seniors team is winnign match 23-7 vs Egypt, just 6 VPs less than last qualifying spot at this stage|pg||
nt|fluffy: some artifical bididng, I think 3@h is asking aprtner to bid 3NT whatever he's got and so he did|pg||
nt|hlortz: @D bids dont really mean much at tis table lol...|pg||
nt|fluffy: this concealed the spade suit from south, but nystrom didn't care, very good lead|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: i couldn't quite hear it, but something like that|pg||
mb|2N|nt|lechcold: z t¹ trudnoci¹ to oczywicie tylko teoria:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: West; It's not fair, east: life is not fair|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: ok new info -5 in manor 19-21 that fits|pg||
nt|rv:  2 more rounds in all events before top 8 countries are identified for QFs by today EOD|pg||
mb|3N|nt|runnerup: major @h in this case|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: yes she thinks good @D support pd|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: sorry Dutch kibs even DD -1|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 62-64|pg||
nt|mdgraham: suggestion of possible heart-club squeeze on South|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: not working imo|pg||
nt|mdgraham: however, if North hops up and plays a heart, no chance|pg||
mb|p|nt|fluffy: 2@d sames game forcing values with diamonds|pg||
pc|s7|nt|fluffy: making south play 3NT brings a trick on a spade lead|pg||
pc|s3|nt|panosk: can he make?|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  that is good news RV|pg||
nt|ady: this can be made sitting from here   at some stage playing high diamond from south hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: S asking for opening style|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: W: pretty solid|pg||
nt|mdgraham: wd|pg||
pc|s9|nt|bt:  well bad lies but comfortable lead so should do fine|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|odysseus69: other 3 matches have big leads for favourites|pg||
pc|c6|nt|jaapfr vg: 62-64 confirmed|pg||
nt|mdgraham: might be two off - East hasn't guessed the trumps yet|pg||
pc|cA|nt|rv:  now @CA and back|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|nt|ryskiel_: seniorzy 46:0 ....zamykaj¹ sobie drzwi na Antypody:)|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|sheila a:  current standings are 6. Iceland 333.5; 7 China 331.5; 8= NZ and Sweden 330|pg||
nt|odysseus69: hearts are friendly so 11 tricks available|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|panosk: spade shift looks pretty much stiff to me|pg||
nt|fluffy: there seems to be an 11's trick either ducking a heart, or a diamond and the squeezing east|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|sheila a:  with Japan just behind on 329|pg||
pc|hK|nt|mdgraham: but with this fit, I don't think that will happen|pg||
pc|h7|nt|sheila a:  one board could swing it|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: North claiming 11, but still playing on|pg||
nt|fluffy: now to avoid being squeezed he had to return @hQ|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sJ|nt|garden2005: i +2|pg||
nt|panosk: so decl knows a lot about sidtribution of suits|pg||
nt|rv:  now 2 down|pg||
nt|fluffy: he did, so he saves 1 IMP|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|odysseus69: not now-settle for 10|pg||
pc|dA|nt|fluffy: anyway on a heart lead declarer still would only have 8 tricks|pg||
nt|bt:  no squeeze 10 tricks|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h3|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|nt|panosk: * distribution |pg||
pc|h6|pc|d9|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|cK|pc|h4|pc|d5|pc|c8|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|mc|10|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1SKT84H8542D764CA5,S97653HTDQJT832C8,SAQ2HAQ6DK95CJT43,SJHKJ973DACKQ9762|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|an|15-17|nt|brolucius: A terrible misfit for E/W.|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: indeed much more squeeze chance with early @H given away|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|jaapfr vg: W passes 2@D though|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: S nothing to bid|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@D is one minor weakish or strong two-suiter 5-5.|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: West can guess which it is, after South's pass.|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: as predicted lol|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: :)|pg||
nt|warrens:  a perfect auctin for e-w.  sometimes system is a lovely thing|pg||
nt|warrens:  auction|pg||
pc|cA|nt|jaapfr vg: we had to wait 15 handds:)|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: wow... Fredin said looks like we have a very good bid because you are strong with hearts and clubs|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: give him a beer:)|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: ok np|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: from you ?|pg||
nt|brolucius: I believe the strong two-suiter has to include just one major, which would imply that East must hold clubs. In that case, the @CA lead was ill-advised.|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg||
nt|jbennet: yep just as expeceted.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|hT|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|jaapfr vg: mb they get a rest all after this session:)|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg||
nt|warrens:  looks like -1 to me|pg||
nt|warrens:  declarer will get his long spade at the end,since the defense can't tap him out|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: interesting to see how CR deals with this board|pg||
nt|brolucius: This championship follows the very civilised session times favoured in much of Europe (but not England). They start early and finish early, allowing plenty of time for good dining ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: while they perform the postmortems. In England you are lucky if you finish before midnight. |pg||
pc|dK|pc|c6|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
nt|warrens:  I'm told they're in 2@H in the other room|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: who:)?|pg||
nt|warrens:  e-w I presume|pg||
nt|jbennet: could have been -2  though.|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: can be in both directions|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h3|nt|warrens:  yes, confirmed as e-w|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h2|pc|dT|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg||
nt|warrens:  wait, with this defense, I think he will get tapped out|pg||
mc|6|nt|warrens:  every time S gets in, he can lead another@H|pg||
nt|jbennet: wd south.|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: lol..they argued a lot about how many down|pg||
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qx|c15|st||md|1SKT84H8542D764CA5,S97653HTDQJT832C8,SAQ2HAQ6DK95CJT43,SJHKJ973DACKQ9762|sv|n|nt|rv:  when opps are relentlessly accurate, it psychologically demoralizes you|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Oops kushari says :)|pg||
nt|jbgood: we can understand why:)|pg||
nt|jbgood: New Zealand has actually passed Iceland and is currently in 6th place!|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: none of the kibs agreed with the 3nt bid:(|pg||
nt|bt:  and 2 more boards tonight, they have an easy schedule here|pg||
nt|bt:  32 boards aday, thats like vacation|pg||
mb|p|nt|sunsamvar:  9 tricks in nt here|pg||
nt|rv:  I am sure Mukherjee might have scored last contract against most other opps or even at an early stage in this match|pg||
mb|p|nt|sunsamvar:  on a @h lead|pg||
nt|psyck:  only if they don't take 1st 5 :)|pg||
nt|mdgraham: well, you could agree with it - on a different hand|pg||
nt|fluffy: 1NT now is 14-16|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: it is 48 boards a day|pg||
mb|1N|mb|2H!|nt|lechcold: dla tych, którzy nie wiedz¹ dok³adnie jaki jest system rozgrywek:|pg||
nt|lechcold: 8 timów kwalifikuje siê do 1/4 fina³u|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznx: Yes will be a huge last match|pg||
nt|fluffy: 32 per pair if they rotate|pg||
nt|odysseus69: hearts and minor|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: ahhh -- sorry :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: I dont know if these two teams have rotated|pg||
nt|fluffy: they have|pg||
nt|fluffy: from lat round at least|pg||
nt|fluffy: USA has dona all day|pg||
nt|odysseus69: misfit here but can they punish?|pg||
nt|bt:  they have, 48 a days is nothing anyway|pg||
nt|fluffy: don't remember first swedish line up|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: w ka¿dej konkurencji|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 1@H=8-11, not five spades|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: how old is she then???|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: good 6 @h -but all slams makes this time|pg||
pc|d4|nt|mdgraham: Jaap! You don't ask a lady her age!|pg||
nt|bt:  bathurst strength of overcalls has certainly improved froom the first set|pg||
nt|fluffy: :)|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d9|nt|lechcold: zwyciêzca RR wybiera przeciwnika z miejsc 5-8|pg||
nt|sheila a:  3@d is a Bergen raise, showing 4 card support and those kind of values|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: some 20 is a lady Mike:)?|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|ady: not really    too many red suit tricks for defence    cantake 6 tricks   4 diamonds and 2 hearts|pg||
nt|panosk: S hand doesnt evet deserve an upgrade i think|pg||
nt|rv:  this is limit of hand if defense is accurate|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|lechcold: potem drugi, itd|pg||
nt|garden2005: i swojaczek :)|pg||
nt|lechcold: jest carry-over|pg||
nt|lechcold: nie pamiêtam dok³adnie jaki, ale chyba 1/3 impów z bezporedniego meczu, jesli taki by³|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: du¿o lew niczyich w tym rozdaniu|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: E had @hA nearly on the table|pg||
nt|fluffy: soemthing weir dis going on|pg||
nt|fluffy: lall has an obvious 14-16 NT|pg||
nt|hlortz: 1@S must show real @D|pg||
nt|fluffy: do they play different ranges on 4th?|pg||
pc|cA|nt|rv:  second best lead, telling poor suit asking for shift?|pg||
nt|fluffy: yes, 15-17 in 4th|pg||
pc|c8|nt|vugraphznx: lall did not show 4@d with 1@s, but grue offering the option to play 2@d or 2@h|pg||
nt|barbyh: unless shes under 30|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: zachêæ Chip zachêæ - partner powinien mieæ KDW...|pg||
pc|h4|nt|lechcold: aha i dwie amerykañskie dru¿yny nie mog¹ spotkaæ siê w finale|pg||
nt|runnerup: 32 hcp and no try -ok -|pg||
nt|ady: now 9 tricks|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  :0|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: simple 4@S coffee time|pg||
pc|hT|nt|hlortz: thx|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
nt|grebrof: Sweden needs a turnaround now'|pg||
pc|dK|nt|ryskiel_: chodzi o to by siê która której nie pod³ozy³a?|pg||
nt|lechcold: po porstu musz¹ znaleæ siê w odrêbnych po³ówkach drabinki|pg||
nt|odysseus69: only 50s|pg||
nt|fluffy: zagorin was happy to play anything not doubled|pg||
pc|h7|nt|lechcold: po prostu|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|s3|nt|ryskiel_: w³anie jak w odrêbnych to to jest szansa na fina³ AA|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|c9|pc|d6|nt|jbgood: as mentioned earlier here, NZ and Sweden will meet in the very last round of the round robin -  here on BBO|pg||
pc|d3|pc|cT|pg||
pc|sA|nt|lechcold: musz¹ znaleæ siê w tej samej po³ówce, sorry:)|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  :)|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|jbgood: I have been allowed by the Swedish captain to root for both teams:)|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
nt|lokaty: jak dochodz¹ obie do pó³fina³u, to z automatu graj¹ w nim razem, a +c/o ma ta, która RR skoñczy³a wy¿ej|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|ryskiel_: teraz dama i 10-ka karo proszê|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c7|nt|garden2005: zagraj Krzysiu najpierw @dA!|pg||
nt|bt:  too often i think, lol|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 2 down -no disaster|pg||
pc|sT|nt|buddyshah: :)|pg||
pc|d8|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ryskiel_: odblokuje siê nie ma strachu|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: nie!!! to jeszcze wykoñcyzæ akcjê|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: sorry myla³em ¿e po³o¿y³ asa karo|pg||
nt|lokaty: niech siê skupi¹ na ostatnim, bo jest wa¿ne i mo¿e byæ drogie|pg||
nt|lechcold: sk¹d mog¹ wiedzieæ?:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Martel trzyma to @h, to @d w reku...|pg||
nt|garden2005: pakuj Martel w serce!|pg||
nt|lechcold: 35 impów to 23:7|pg||
nt|lechcold: jeszcze troszkê by siê przyda³o|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|kamyk: przed meczem wziêlibymy w ciemno|pg||
pc|h2|nt|jaapfr vg: during RR this USA pair was soooo strong in their match against the Dutch ladies|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|bt:  nice defence by fredrik, didnt matter|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|s7|nt|jaapfr vg: @SJ is 10 tricks|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|mdgraham: hmm @sJ?|pg||
nt|bt:  so last hand of the day|pg||
pc|c6|nt|lokaty: chyba, ¿e tyle samo na W³ochów:)|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2SJ52H3DT752CT8632,SKT876HQJ64DJ4CJ7,S43HKT75DKQ96CAKQ,SAQ9HA982DA83C954|sv|e|nt|Vugraphznw: last board|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: thx all for watching|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Not so bad to escape for -100 on that misfit. |pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|Vugraphznw: great match...and they have 3 more sets tomorrow|pg||
nt|warrens:  Thank youto BBO for providing this fantastic VuGraph on the Bermuda Bowl.  Thank you Traian for doing such a good job as operator-it's not easy.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|jaapfr vg: is it not totally unfair to say that this session was lost by the Swedes (more fair than to say won by USA2) or is that impolite?|pg||
mb|d|mb|2D!|nt|warrens:  Thanks to my fellow commentators, David, Jaap and Joey.  And thanks to all our spectators, who definitely keep us on our toes.  See you all tomorrow for the second half of this excellent QF match.|pg||
nt|brolucius: I think USA2 has played very well and deserve their big gain.|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|brolucius: 2@D shows a sound spade raise. He may be willing to bid again.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Although he will recall that his partner did not open a weak 2@S.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphznw: wow|pg||
pc|d3|nt|brolucius: So, only 8 trumps are likely in the E/W direction. This is the normal guide to how high you should compete and indeed East has passed.|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: oh sorry you do not know that I am a big usaa2 fan and saw the best bridge in RR and repeatedly are saying that they will rule the bridge world for the decades coming:)|pg||
nt|warrens:  very disciplined by East, knowing his partner is a passed hand |pg||
nt|warrens:  yes, he applied the LAW|pg||
pc|d9|nt|jaapfr vg: deadly serious|pg||
nt|jacksond: but does the law work?|pg||
nt|jbennet: the law is a unicorn. |pg||
nt|jacksond: looks like both can make 9 tricks|pg||
nt|warrens:  the law says, as a general rule, you should bid the same level as the number of cards in your fit.  HOWEVER, you should bid one more with a double fit.|pg||
nt|warrens:  this turns out to be a double fit hand|pg||
nt|jbennet: someimes it works, some times not. |pg||
nt|jbennet: this it did work however. because 2 8 card fits = a 9 card fit.|pg||
nt|warrens:  both sides have TWO 8-card fits, which makes a difference|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: we are in overtime now :)|pg||
nt|jacksond: its as useful as knowing that with 20 points and no fit you can usually make about 7 tricks|pg||
nt|Vugraphznw: Fallenius in the tank|pg||
nt|jbennet: but 3 d was probably beatable. |pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|s8|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c6|nt|warrens:  this is over now, making 3. |pg||
mc|9|nt|Vugraphznw: indded and good night to YOU all |pg||
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qx|c16|st||md|2SJ52H3DT752CT8632,SKT876HQJ64DJ4CJ7,S43HKT75DKQ96CAKQ,SAQ9HA982DA83C954|sv|e|nt|vugraphznx: this is the last board of the day|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: we restart tomorrow at 10.30|pg||
nt|rv:  40 mins available to play last deal|pg||
nt|ady: last hand of a very quick set    thx all|pg||
nt|jbgood: go for comparisons now - bye all|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: This is the final board of the set, we resume tomorrow morning at 10:30 CET with the quarter finals.|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Thanks all for watching.|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: this will be the last board of this segment|pg||
nt|mdgraham: last board of the set - thanks Gerbrand, good job|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: we will restart at 16.45 that's about 45 min from now|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: specs keep telling me @SJ was down 1 but i think not true|pg||
nt|bt:  give us something now |pg||
nt|vugraphznx: here you have 52 cards|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: is that what you wanted|pg||
mb|p|nt|panosk: it doesnt worth them though :)|pg||
nt|ady: thx specs|pg||
nt|sheila a:  Thank you Ruud |pg||
mb|1C!|nt|runnerup: so last board here -possible 4 @h |pg||
nt|psyck:  even playing in slow mothion will not produce any noticeable swing here|pg||
nt|sunsamvar:  tx all. has been entertaining|pg||
nt|rv:  if someone utlilizes that much time, he will straight get a spot in Roland's list of top 5 slow players|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|yuval10: can EW enter the bidding and find their @c fit?|pg||
nt|yuval10: NS that is|pg||
mb|p|nt|granguru:  6@C|pg||
nt|sheila a:  dbl is a little stretched but on the other hand pass feels wet|pg||
nt|sheila a:  at the other table N leapt to 3NT now|pg||
mb|1N|nt|fluffy: 17 now is 1@c opening|pg||
nt|fluffy: 17-19 showing|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: 6@C znakomite, 6BA ryzykowne troszkê|pg||
nt|lechcold: mylê, ¿e musz¹  dojæ|pg||
nt|runnerup: they will bid it now|pg||
nt|yuval10: guess not|pg||
mb|p|nt|sunsamvar:  tho a mite disappointing for Indian fans|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: the play in 5@c could've been interesting|pg||
nt|yuval10: Fredin can imagine his partner has @h's, but will he X with such a poor @s holding?|pg||
nt|hlortz: thx to our great operator and kibs who kew the ns system better than we did :)|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 1@c 2+cards|pg||
nt|fluffy: bertheau doesn't care much I think he will pass whatever|pg||
nt|bt:  i was hoping for a big interesting hand that would eventually give sweden 13 imps or so|pg||
nt|odysseus69: only 50s|pg||
nt|bt:  and i got this|pg||
pc|h2|nt|fluffy: bertheau has to pick between biddign 4@s or bidding hearts so that partner can make a good decision later|pg||
nt|fluffy: he picked the straightforward spades wich worked pretty well|pg||
nt|fluffy: defence might promote a trick in diamonds if declarer missguesses, but that's only the third trick for the defence|pg||
nt|fluffy: thx Henry|pg||
nt|hlortz: to gonzalo [fluffy[ for great analysis and to bbo for putting this on 5 sessions more to come - i am off to bed 330am here in seatttle|pg||
nt|fluffy: and thx trising for his help with NS convention card|pg||
nt|fluffy: sweet dreams :)|pg||
nt|fluffy: if they play something doubled at the other table who knows...|pg||
pc|h3|nt|antoniz: 2pik 7-8PC na 5+pikach|pg||
nt|sheila a:  this is an interesting choice|pg||
nt|sheila a:  not much in the way of trump tricks but good on Aces and Kings|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|runnerup: yes east passed with 4 @s -his partners suit and south passed -both had surely other options too -so missed |pg||
nt|panosk: next round starts in about 1 hour 30 min from now|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: módlmy siêêêêêêê|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: they double most contracts :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 1 imp or more last board|pg||
pc|dK|nt|ryskiel_: jak strefa szlemowa - od razu boli g³owa|pg||
nt|lechcold: no nie pojmujê tago za bardzo|pg||
nt|garden2005: inwitofitk¹! by doszli bez problemu|pg||
nt|lechcold: partner ma 8+|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: expect 2@S-1|pg||
nt|bt:  maybe a double partscore |pg||
pc|dA|nt|antoniz: max 8PC|pg||
nt|lechcold: my mamy prawie GF na 6 zamkniêtych treflach|pg||
nt|lechcold: osso chodzi|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 6th this round|pg||
nt|sheila a:  and the vulnerability is tempting for defending|pg||
pc|d2|nt|jaapfr vg: so 62-66 so nice ggood tight bridge both teams|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|rv:  at the end of 21st round, top 8 teams qualify for 16x6 QFs from tomorrow onwards|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: We will be back tomorrow at 10.30am (CET)|pg||
pc|h9|nt|jaapfr vg: cards of this session a bit dull imo|pg||
pc|c2|nt|garden2005: szkoda, ale i tak gratulacje! ... wreszcie jakie prze³amanie|pg||
nt|panosk: vugrapg schedule in your own local time here http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
nt|odysseus69: declarer marked with heart 10 so might as well play 2nd heart|pg||
nt|fluffy: sorry lars, wooldridge bid 3@d but nobody was courageus to double it|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: I am not absolutely sure what matches will be on BBO -- but they will all be interesting :)|pg||
nt|bt:  oh wel tomorrow is another day|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|rv:  teams not qualifying here can play trans-nationals from Mon onwards|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: now can make|pg||
nt|mdgraham: EW sold out a bit early at the other table, perhaps |pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|sheila a:  In fact 3NT only makes because the J10 of @d come down|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h8|nt|antoniz: Jassem nie zdecydowa³ siê na 2karo-FG,trudnosiê dziwiæ|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: ale choæ na koñcu  jakie g...musi siê zdarzyæ...mia³em na my³i gorczycê oczywicie|pg||
nt|antoniz: gratulacje i do us³yszenia|pg||
nt|lechcold: przed parti¹ silny trefl|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: do zobaczenia o 16.45|pg||
nt|lechcold: wiêc 1@S by³o 8+|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: zapraszam na dwa wystêpy polskich dru¿yn mêskich o 16:45...w jednym nawet bêd¹ im robiæ zdjêcia:)|pg||
nt|yuval10: if E plays another @h, it's likely that South will let his partner ruff to maintain control|pg||
pc|c6|nt|fluffy: thx Jan|pg||
pc|h4|nt|rv:  losing QFs in all events can join trans-nationals from 3rd round on Tue onwards|pg||
nt|yuval10: now if he plays @c .... it seem like 10 tricks for declarer|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|fluffy: superb job all day|pg||
nt|odysseus69: West might have tried spade|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: and tomorrow will be a "long" day for us BBO operators|pg||
nt|bt:  west indicated spades with his hearts|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: after the quarterfinals finish ---- then two rounds in the Transnational will be here on BBO|pg||
nt|bt:  anyway great thanks to the operators, without them nothing is possible|pg||
nt|odysseus69: key moment|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 2 rounds of 10 boards will be sent from Transnationals|pg||
nt|odysseus69: can he possibly find spade|pg||
nt|fluffy: will be hard to pick a table, there are 150 teams I've heard!|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: and we will finish the transmissions from Veldhoven at about 11.30pm tomorrow evening (or night)|pg||
nt|bt:  west did play @H6 then @H4 must have spade king|pg||
nt|bt:  why else play like that|pg||
nt|odysseus69: good point but I still feel that a spade was a better idea|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: all teams that might loose their quarterfinals have a chance to play in the Transnationals too|pg||
nt|bt:  its mistrust not to play him for spade king|pg||
nt|bt:  or just not concentrating after a gruelling 31 boards today|pg||
nt|bt:  lol|pg||
nt|fluffy: trusting or not declarer has shown 17-19, that's why he needs to think about it carefully|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: A of @ss is in the middel of the cards in the E hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: a @d in front|pg||
pc|d8|nt|psyck:  Results: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 71-62|pg||
pc|d5|nt|odysseus69: got to go NOW so thx all |pg||
mc|7|nt|vugraphznx: laughter about the @S|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: bye all|pg||
nt|bt:  thanks everyone, thanks operators, thanks bbo|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: see you tomorrow |pg||
nt|vugraphznx: bye|pg||
nt|fluffy: good bye|pg||
nt|bt:  bye all|pg||
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