vg|A - Bermuda Bowl 2011,Round 10_21,I,17,32,USA 1,0,Australia,0|
rs|3NW+1,3NW+1,4SS=,4SS=,1SN+1,2HW-1,4SW=,4SW-1,4HNx=,5DE=,3SSx-2,4HWx-2,3HS=,2SW+2,1NN+1,1NN+2,4HE=,4HW=,3NW+1,3NE=,3NW+2,3NW+2,2HS+1,2HS+2,3NW=,4SW-1,2NN+1,2DS=,2HN+2,4HN=,4HE-3,4HE-1|
pn|KAMIL,HANS,FLEISHER,NUNN,EDGTTON,WEINSTEIN,GOSNEY,LEVIN|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3SJT53HQT732DJCKQT,SQHKJ96DQ7542C874,S962H854D986CAJ93,SAK874HADAKT3C652|sv|o|nt|bebechira:  we are go|pg||
nt|rv: as per BUTLER ranking, lauria-Versace, Villas Boas-Campos of Brazil and Jonson-Baldurson also doing well|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|psridhar: start with a 3N for EW unless they bid superbly to discover they hv no @c stopper|pg||
nt|rv: it is better if they don't discover that:)|pg||
nt|rv: 3n is last and only making contract|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: cr 3NT E +1|pg||
nt|psridhar: like 1s-1n-3d-3h-.....leads to 5@d then|pg||
nt|rv: game contract|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|an|either 15+ or !s+!c|nt|rv: modern standard, we may see Gazzilli|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|psridhar: will it help them to ignore @C rv?|pg||
mb|2H|an|different stuff|mb|p|nt|rv: in conventional standard, Nunn will bid 3@d to show 5@s+4+@d 18+, here 2@c with all 17+hands|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|an|51(43)|mb|p|nt|rv: 2@d shows good 7+, 2@h shos variety of strong hand (possibly w/o 55 or better)|pg||
nt|psridhar: one nice thing abt this Gazeilli.....a hand like West gets to bid about 5-6 times :) |pg||
mb|3N|nt|rv: 2@s is relay and 3@d shows 5@s+4@d 17+|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|psridhar: efficiently done !|pg||
nt|rv: looks like E-W pair their own home grown improvisation of Gazzilli|pg||
nt|petergill: They do|pg||
nt|rv: in classical Gazzilli, 3@d just shows 5@s+4@d, here they have shown precise distribution (@h stiff)|pg||
nt|psridhar: Note Levin rebid only 2@d on that rock crusher...got to 3nt however|pg||
pc|d8|nt|rv: Hi Peter, good afternoon|pg||
nt|petergill: They put a lot of work in, practicizing bidding up to 13 hours a week on BBO |pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3SJT53HQT732DJCKQT,SQHKJ96DQ7542C874,S962H854D986CAJ93,SAK874HADAKT3C652|sv|o|nt|athene: hi good afternoon everyone|pg||
nt|athene: italy have been very impressive so far|pg||
nt|athene: and lauria-versace aren't exactly anyone's idea of a third pair :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: witamy z powrotem|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hi all and welcome to this match from Veldhoven. Iceland vs. China|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Play will start in a minute -- Einarsson and Jorgensen are discussing their defense|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: against the chinese system|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hi Martin|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers!|pg||
nt|barnets:  morning all from florida|pg||
nt|brolucius: Italy v USA in the Bermuda Bowl has a good ring to it. These events are enhanced by the decades of history behind them.|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am watching the live video stream, but it is from the other table at the moment.|pg||
nt|ady: good afternoon all|pg||
nt|brolucius: Utaly picked up three big wins on the first day, but they had some harder fights yesterday.|pg||
nt|hlortz: we are back again it seems|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznt: There we go|pg||
nt|ady: still leading?|pg||
mb|1S|nt|vugraphznt: welcome everybody|pg||
nt|gracelin: H all|pg||
nt|brolucius: China beat them by 1 IMP in a great match. (There was a very rare vice squeeze on the last board - worth looking up in the VG records).|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hello everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: part score in diamonds  looks best|pg||
nt|brolucius: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|brolucius: .. for the live video pictures|pg||
nt|ady: could Bocchi get over ambitious in hearts|pg||
mb|1N|nt|brolucius: Bocchi's 1@C is natural. All 3 Italian pairs play 2-over 1, which means that a two-level response to one of a suit is game-forcing.|pg||
mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: welcome everyone|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|gracelin: Lian and Dhi is the natural pair in the Chinese team.  Bocchi also play natural with variable 1NT range|pg||
nt|gracelin: we sstart the match with a slam hand.  6S is cold and 7S on the D finesse which works.|pg||
nt|gracelin: Italy is now lying first comfortably with an average of 24 VP in the first 4 round.  China lies 13th at moment.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2 c is 54 11-15, qualsiasi rever senza 3|pg||
nt|hlortz: hello all|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers!|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@D via a negative double is weaker than a direct 2@D on the previous round.|pg||
mb|3D|nt|fabsayc: there is a double dummy defense to beat 4@S|pg||
nt|ady: west considering   will likely raise in spades|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: hi Henry|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: 2d must be a relay and 2H probably shows 5D/4H|pg||
mb|3N|nt|lechcold: witam na meczu Polska-Bu³garia|pg||
nt|brolucius: Wooldridge bid 1NT (transfer to 2@C) intending to support spades on the next round. That is why transfers are so effective in many situations. They give you two bites at the ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: cherry.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: wooldridge explaining he is not 100% sure if 1nt shows clubs or could be a raise in @S|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sometimes they differ , depends on 1@C|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: but hurd explained as @C ,  madala just wants to know the insides|pg||
nt|ady: would double of 3@S be penalty from North  ?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: ins & outs|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: madala asking for the director|pg||
nt|brolucius: When 1@C is basically natural but maybe two or three cards, it is usually best for the defenders to treat it as natural in their subsequent bidding.|pg||
nt|barnets: it seems norths double relates to wests 1n bid|pg||
nt|warrens:  1N=transfer to @C's, but since N opened 1@C, this showed a strong 3-card raise.  Hurd's immediate 2@S over the X showed a minimum|pg||
nt|ady: not sure  what south is meant to do?|pg||
nt|barnets: if wests bid showed clubs perhaps norths x also showed clubs|pg||
nt|brolucius: That agreement prevents any misunderstandings, such as may have arisen here.|pg||
nt|barnets: hence x of 3@S would also be penalty|pg||
nt|barnets: by north|pg||
nt|ady: that would seem to be a reasonable choice|pg||
nt|brolucius: It's not immediately obvious why N/S should call the director. They are probably happy to be defending 3@S.|pg||
nt|barnets: 3 rounds of spades would seem to defeat 3@SX even with 3 club tricks for declarer|pg||
mb|p|nt|fluffy: the important factor here for south, is that perhaps on some meanings of 1NT he is on forcing now, and on others he isnt|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: 2NT was slightly ambitious.|pg||
nt|brolucius: West had an obvious raise with that splendid heart suit.|pg||
nt|lechcold: to powa¿ny przeciwnik, który siê powa¿nie liczy w walce o awans do ósemki |pg||
nt|ady: not even necessary to do that       east unable to ruff any diamonds|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: actually they do not have a misunderstanding, wooldridge just giving all the info he can|pg||
nt|ady: this looks down 1 on the baad diamond split|pg||
nt|ady: will Bocchi try 4@H?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: even before madala asked anything about 2@S|pg||
nt|brolucius: A messy start to the match.|pg||
mb|p|pc|h8|nt|gracelin: the later round of bidding is not explained in their CC so we will have to take some guess.|pg||
nt|gracelin: 6S is more comfortable a contract than 6D.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Lets see if they find the "killing defence" here|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: apart from the club suit all looks well|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes and 5@D down on club leads so 3n the best spot|pg||
nt|psyck:  Results & Live Scores: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: at least a @C lead would have given Weinstein a mild scare|pg||
nt|psyck:  NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Australia/edgtton-gosney.pdf|pg||
nt|psyck:  EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%201/levin-weinstein.pdf|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: welcome Krishna|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: lets try again :)|pg||
mc|10|nt|gracelin: since they are in GF tempo, mabe south will rebid is spade suit and get a raise on the way to 6S|pg||
nt|fabsayc: defense is easier now east has bid diamonds|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: they didnt|pg||
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qx|o18|st||md|4SKJ74HAKDKTCQJT82,SA85HJTDA942C9764,SQT92H98742DQ75CK,S63HQ653DJ863CA53|sv|n|nt|psridhar: I wonder what wd hv been the auction after Levin's 2@D in CR if Wests minors were reversed..|pg||
nt|rv: systems are evolving so much nowadays, we are even talking of classical Gazzilli:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|petergill: Sartaj Hans and Tony Nunn were able to get the heart shortage into the sequence, making for more accurate bidding - which might have mattered on different layouts. |pg||
nt|rv: Kamil has upgraded his 17 hcp with 5 card suit|pg||
mb|1D!|an|!h|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|rv: I presume 1n here shows 18+|pg||
mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|petergill: EW Convention Card http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Australia/hans-nunn.pdf|pg||
nt|psridhar: 2nt=@s?|pg||
mb|3S|nt|rv: 1@d showed @h, 2@d is retransfer to @h, 2n possibly shows 4@s|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|rv: if you look at bidding of resp pairs in first 2 deals, not many will recognize or agree it is standard american:)|pg||
nt|psridhar: another push in a match that has begun 'tightly'|pg||
pc|h2|nt|rv: my prediction is close tight match with not many IMPs exchanged|pg||
pc|h3|nt|petergill: This is a "re-match" for Sartaj and Tony, who lost to USA1 recently in a Spingold match|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
nt|petergill: NS Convention Card http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%201/fleisher-kamil.pdf|pg||
nt|rv: Peter, Tony-Sartaj best pair in Oz on current form?|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|Walddk2:  http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dT|pg||
mc|10|nt|psridhar: are they the best Butlers among the 3 aussie pairs here rv?|pg||
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qx|c18|st||md|4SKJ74HAKDKTCQJT82,SA85HJTDA942C9764,SQT92H98742DQ75CK,S63HQ653DJ863CA53|sv|n|nt|brolucius: 4@H would have gone down too.|pg||
nt|nickf: to start the match - you need to click on REDEAL down the bottom|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: The ended in an slightl inferior slam and the cards ae not forgiving|pg||
mb|1C|nt|athene: NS play strong club, UDCA|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: up to speed again|pg||
nt|ady: USA playing 3NT with n/s cards  OR|pg||
nt|brolucius: A pretty awful board for Italy, whatever was the cause of it.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: had to relog because open room was down|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: No percentage in North entering the bidding.|pg||
nt|brolucius: ... and North has then protected with a take-out double.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: bocchi looking sy west cards on board 1|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 4@h = @ss|pg||
nt|ady: 1@S?|pg||
mb|1D|nt|brolucius: 1@S denies spades. With 4 or 5 spades he would double.|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: trying to see how he could make the slam :)|pg||
mb|1S|nt|athene: EW play standard short club, 5-card majors, strong notrump|pg||
nt|gracelin: West will bud to 4S|pg||
nt|gracelin: bid|pg||
nt|brolucius: Many use a cue-bid to show a sound 3-card raise, 2NT shows a 4-card raise.|pg||
nt|barnets: NS in danger now|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|brolucius: East has bid 2@H|pg||
nt|gracelin: 5H will be very expensive at this Vul.|pg||
nt|barnets: 3@HX was 1100|pg||
nt|barnets: for e/w|pg||
nt|ady: Madala very agressive   is pass stronger in that position given the quality of the overcall?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Must be|pg||
nt|psyck:  Results: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 1nt was 13+ to 16|pg||
mb|4S|nt|rensph:  As most of you will have noticed these names do not match the countries playing - I'm sure operator will get to that in a second|pg||
nt|rensph:  seems we're back and good to go. :) Hello everyone.|pg||
nt|mathat: 3 down|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: but often the opponents will not believe they are given a gift|pg||
nt|psyck:  Live video stream: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|psyck:  (you can mute the audio to hear voice commentary here)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Few would bid 1@H, vul against not, on those South cards. |pg||
nt|ady: will try club switch|pg||
nt|ady: 9 or queen?|pg||
mb|p|nt|idc: Welcome all - BBO has decided that specs getting it too easy with just voice commentary, so you have to suffer written commentary too :)|pg||
mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|brolucius: When the opponents find a fit and then stop at the two level, the other side know that the points are divided and that they will likely have a fit somewhere.|pg||
nt|ady: and then again at 3 level|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hi Ian :)|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer needs to guess trump to make this, but I am afraid he will not.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: probably down one but can in fact pick up the spades|pg||
pc|c2|nt|mathat: @c is 2-2|pg||
nt|barnets: So South survived a potential second disaster as a diamond lead would have produced 1100 should west have chanced a x of 3@H|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|nt|gracelin: from the 5H bid and the double, it's likely that north has a singleton trump|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|gracelin: how can he believe north bids 5H at unfav Vul. with this 5422 hand.|pg||
pc|h6|nt|santyclz: Hi folks.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer finesses in spades, seeking a discard for one of his diamond losers.|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg||
nt|kit: The location of the king of spades means that South does well in 3@C, but the same location means that E-W won't make 3@H|pg||
nt|gracelin: but after all, north only bid 2H in first round.  So maybe declarer will figure it out.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: will have to finish this and re start to link with other table so after this hand ill close this|pg||
nt|gracelin: got it|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sQ|nt|idc: We have Martel-Stansby playing 12-14 NT & 5-card majors, Camps/Villas-Boas 15-17 & 5-card majors|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|rhelle:  hi all|pg||
nt|Walddk4: This room will be shut down shortly|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Our operator needs to reconnect to the other room|pg||
nt|gracelin: moment of truth. he would love to finesse the SJ but entry is not cnvenient|pg||
nt|gracelin: This is the first time Lian plays for China.  His partner Shi is a veteran and reach semi-final in the 2009 BB|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|nt|rhelle:  NS had a relay sequence, where North asked South questions about his distribution and strength|pg||
nt|andyv:  http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well he could have floated spade 9|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg||
nt|brolucius: You can see what a good idea it was for North to keep the bidding alive over 2@H (which would have made). You should always be reluctant to let the opponents play at the two-level ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: in a fit.|pg||
nt|gracelin: he's on the wrong track|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|nt|mathat: think bocchi in vuln bid 5 with sngl @s|pg||
nt|gracelin: south cannot hace a singleton club, or he would lead one for the ruff, so the finesse is to play south for 3-5-3-2 very unlikely since north is raising 2H with 6|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|garden2005: witam na debiucie B-N :)|pg||
mc|10|nt|vugraphznt: Hi all, sorry, had some connection problems|pg||
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qx|o19|st||md|1S74HT93DAQ2CJT742,SA96HKQJ872DK5CQ6,SKQT832HA65D97CA9,SJ5H4DJT8643CK853|sv|e|nt|petergill: Photo an profile of West: http://bridgewinners.com/index.php/component/content/article/164-players/1250-sartaj-hans|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|rv: they are +.45, other 2 pairs are minus|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|psridhar: ok+0.45 is Good|pg||
nt|petergill: Photo and profile of East: http://bridgewinners.com/index.php/component/content/article/164-players/1251-tony-nunn|pg||
nt|rv: PS, as per BUTLER scores, they are best, but you have told me not to rely on them:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: maybe we should leave it to Oz npc and rest of team to judge the pairs:)|pg||
nt|psridhar: small correction-i said I do not rely on butler scores :)|pg||
pc|h4|nt|rv: back to this deal|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|psridhar: 5@s and 3 aces for a quick push ?|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|rv: I might have balanced with 2@h with Sartaj's hand|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|petergill: Then Indian commetnators can rely on this: when we (Sartaj - Tony , me and 3 others) won the big HCL event in India exactly 12 months ago, it was because Sartaj and Tony carried us ...|pg||
nt|petergill: to victory. |pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|sJ|pc|h3|pg||
nt|rv: Peter has given his opinion diplomatically:)|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d2|mc|8|pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1S74HT93DAQ2CJT742,SA96HKQJ872DK5CQ6,SKQT832HA65D97CA9,SJ5H4DJT8643CK853|sv|e|nt|nickf: what happens when you press Redeal ?|pg||
nt|nickf: close - then connect to the OPEN room|pg||
nt|gracelin: rehi everyone|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: not without having looked at my screen :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: however had south split the dummy shortening defense does not work|pg||
nt|fabsayc: declarer will need to take ruffing diamond finesse|pg||
nt|ady: slam time|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|idc: The standard of commentary you can expect has just risen, as we welcome Joe Shair|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Hi folks.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: thanks Karen|pg||
mb|1S|nt|rhelle:  East will be tempted to pass this|pg||
nt|ady: 6@S a save|pg||
nt|barnets: a low diamond lead V 6@H|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: both sides play fairly natural systems 5 card majors 15-17nt|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: North may respond 4@S  to his partner's one-bid. No, he has preferred 1@S.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: we are up to speed now|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: had to claim the first 2 |pg||
nt|athene: 4@S is two down, assuming the defence attack clubs early enough|pg||
nt|barnets: works quite well|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hi Joe|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  And now West has a problem. 2@s is non forcing, but he has a very nice hand|pg||
nt|athene: but nanev, with singleton spade facing a takeout double, might bid on|pg||
nt|barnets: 5@SX in other room|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Oh, the pressure...|pg||
mb|2H|nt|idc: The Brazilian Federation has player profiles on-line, look at: http://www.bridge.esp.br/player/joaopaulocampos.php|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  He doesn't know about the wasted @h values in his partner's hand, of course|pg||
nt|brolucius: On this sort of auction some play 2NT by the opener as weak-strong. That allows them to show a strong 3@C rebid (by bidding 3@C) or a shapely weaker one (via 2NT).|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: fearing his opponents have a huge fit and more shape than they do have|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this will limp home|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: do anyone here have the link for running scores|pg||
nt|ady: yes   6@H can be beaten  |pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: at wbf.org|pg||
nt|barnets: 5@SX is also interesting|pg||
nt|barnets: def need to play a club|pg||
pc|sK|nt|fabsayc: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sorry - misclick here -- claim wasnt the right buttom :(|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: botton :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: @cQ took first trick|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: then a small @s to the K|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: And E is now in |pg||
nt|barnets: to force dummy|pg||
nt|idc: and there is a link there to his partner's profile, thanks to Brazil for the info|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: bit weak of Gosney - Edgtton to pass this out|pg||
pc|s5|nt|kit: This is interesting.  East will lead a high heart and shift to a minor.  But does he shift to the suit where he has the king, or where he doesn't?  That is what declarer will have ...|pg||
nt|kit: to judge.|pg||
pc|s4|nt|athene: ok, this is interesting|pg||
nt|antoniz: witaj Grzegorz:)|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|athene: when he bids 4nt you might think it is offering two places to play, in which case he should pass 5@C|pg||
nt|hlortz: could be 6 imps if both 2@h and 2s make|pg||
pc|cA|nt|brolucius: N/S are not playing a strong 1@C system. That is probably why North did not want to make a pre-emptive 4@S response - in case his partner was strong and they could make a slam.|pg||
nt|santyclz: W has no quick entry to allow a @s thru.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 2@S makes easily for me|pg||
pc|c3|nt|rhelle:  the problem for East is communication. He can throw @cs on @h KQ, but how to get there?|pg||
nt|brolucius: When dummy has only one card in the suit led, the partner of the opening leader can give a suit preference card to suggest a switch.|pg||
nt|ady: spades never mentioned|pg||
nt|barnets: this will be another swing to USA|pg||
pc|c2|nt|gracelin: Lian was in a tough situation to guess the trump layout under the bidding.  Italy really earned this swing.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2s was 5+ spades veery weak|pg||
nt|gracelin: Sementa led a trump in the other room against 4S, which is tougher for declarer.|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2 clubs 15+ any reverse without 3spades or nat|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  8 easy tricks - 2 0 4 2 and a likely @h.|pg||
nt|idc: Since the defensive entries (@dT & @hA) are split N-S, defence won't be able to get at club winners|pg||
pc|c9|nt|athene: sometimes when you have a scrambling bid like this you can use it to show a weak bid in the highest-ranking suit|pg||
nt|idc: Of course, declarer doesn't know heart layout, so this could still be tricky|pg||
pc|c5|nt|kit: Now club ruff, heart ruff, and eventual diamond finesse will make|pg||
pc|c4|nt|rhelle:  North needs to take and shift to a @c - but not sure even that is enough|pg||
nt|gracelin: now a high spade, if 10 or J drops, he may ruff to hand to ruff the 3rd H.  If nothing drops, just pull the other trump|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|athene: in other words 5@H over 4@S would be "good" and 4nt - whatever - 5@H is "bad"|pg||
pc|sA|nt|kit: I wonder what declarer would have done on a diamond shift|pg||
pc|s2|nt|rhelle:  the @h2 may help - Lavinthal for @cs|pg||
nt|rhelle:  Of course, North also doesn't know that the 2@h opening was so weak in @h|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: here we go again :)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sT|nt|rhelle:  good switch|pg||
nt|boedhy:  hi Rob and all|pg||
nt|rhelle:  hello|pg||
nt|boedhy:  yes but too late I think|pg||
nt|rhelle:  no, just in time|pg||
nt|santyclz: N will think about what to ruff with on the 3rd @c, but it won't matter.|pg||
nt|brolucius: That might ddepend on whether he believed the SP signal that West had chosen to give.|pg||
nt|brolucius: On the 3NT board that we watched a moment ago, the bidding and result were the same at the other table. You can check such things by hitting the MOVIE button at the bottom.|pg||
nt|athene: but as he is a passed hand i am not sure there is any need to make that distinction|pg||
pc|h4|nt|rhelle:  East can only cross with a trump|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now he does|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i guess he can just ruff and cash clubs then play another heart since li cant overruff or ruff anything|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: S asks W about their leads when switching sut|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: suit|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and W tells S that they play 2.4.|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  W needs the @ha in south for 2 reasons now.|pg||
pc|h3|nt|rhelle:  the HQ will get ruffed|pg||
nt|idc: He's committed himself to South holding @hA, which has two things going for it:|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|vugraphznt: and no attitude signals|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|rhelle:  but now North can draw dummy's last trump and cash a @c|pg||
nt|idc: (i) the play is simple and (ii) it will work as cards lie|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|hT|nt|santyclz2:  Declarer, of course, doesn't know it works but surely s has something for his preempt.|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|boedhy:  he has only 1 trump|pg||
nt|rhelle:  ah yes - silly me|pg||
nt|boedhy:  think he should throw @c |pg||
nt|rhelle:  so he needs to discard, and wait until dummy is dead - South can hold up the @d 3 times|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Bauke takes second @d and plays @c|pg||
nt|boedhy:  west ruffs and now e WIjs ruffs third @d and they have @h to cash...|pg||
nt|boedhy:  can also ruff this and play @c|pg||
pc|h5|nt|athene: anyway, lauria versace are content to push opps to the 5-level|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c7|pg||
nt|boedhy:  so you were right after all Rob 1c was needed|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h6|nt|boedhy:  @c|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cT|pg||
nt|idc: Declarer choosing to play this as a squeeze on South|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2S5HK852DAJ65CQ532,SA8432HQ7DKQ932C8,SJ9HAJ96DT8CAT764,SKQT76HT43D74CKJ9|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|psridhar: this match has begun in a 'nothing offered, nothing snatched' manner . we wait...|pg||
mb|3D!|an|9-11 4c!s|nt|rv: limit raise or blast to game with East hand?|pg||
nt|psridhar: all roads lead to 4@s|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: I like limit raise with no stiff and short of aces|pg||
pc|dT|nt|petergill: What can NS make?|pg||
nt|psridhar: some may scoff at this top 4 losers game...but VUL IMP games are bid on less hopes at times|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
nt|petergill: 5@C on for NS|pg||
nt|rv: generally on limit raise, partner will bid game with stiff and even min hands|pg||
nt|petergill: 4@C only |pg||
nt|psridhar: how abt 4@H?|pg||
nt|petergill: Yes 4@H makes, so 4@S is a good save|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg||
nt|petergill: Photo and profile of North http://bridgewinners.com/index.php/component/content/article/164-players/1121-marty-fleisher|pg||
nt|rv: N-S may not have got into auction, 3@S might have bought contract, but IMPs scoring bidding game is right with E-W hands|pg||
nt|rv: even at MPs, E-W likely to bid game since E-W may not be able to evaluate whether partner has fitting cards|pg||
nt|petergill: At other table, Steve Weinstein got a trump lead, and had to decide whether to try to sneak a club though at Trick 2 or Trick 3|pg||
nt|petergill: Steve played two rounds of trumps, then Paul Gosney did well to rise ace on the club. |pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|rv: needs to cash out here|pg||
nt|rv: if he plays back a 3rd @h, dummy's @cs can go away|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|petergill: If you win the first trump in hand to lead a club at Trick 2, psychologically at this level it looks too much like a singleton play - that might be Steve's logic|pg||
nt|rv: first big opportunity for swing|pg||
nt|psridhar: % play is to hook @d now?|pg||
nt|psridhar: i thk he will -first blood to Aussies|pg||
nt|petergill: I think Sartaj will get this right|pg||
mc|10|nt|petergill: No problem |pg||
nt|rv: well done|pg||
nt|psridhar: i wd not like to be in Fleisher's seat now :)  was he worried Hans has @c void?|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: It looked like S threw some @d on all 5 rounds of @s. I am in vg theatre, so didnt see it|pg||
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qx|c20|st||md|2S5HK852DAJ65CQ532,SA8432HQ7DKQ932C8,SJ9HAJ96DT8CAT764,SKQT76HT43D74CKJ9|sv|b|nt|boedhy:  yes always nice |pg||
nt|santyclz: If you're using the browser version, hit "Other Table" on the right side of the screen.|pg||
nt|athene: lauria-versace play a mildly cute defence to a strong club|pg||
nt|lechcold: w  1 3BA z rekontr¹|pg||
nt|ady: cant tell|pg||
nt|idc: If that had happened, Campos had the option of leading @hK instead, playing South for now bare @hQ|pg||
mb|1S|nt|idc: instead of bare @hQ - pity we didn't get to see him make the guess|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: believe it or not 1@D is almost natural, 3+|pg||
nt|idc: [instead of bare @hA I meant last line]|pg||
mb|3D!|an|invite in !S|nt|rhelle:  this is exciting - looks like a @d slam for NS|pg||
nt|brolucius: South worth 3@C now.|pg||
nt|athene: double shows majors|pg||
nt|gracelin: 15-17 at this Vul. 12-14 only at fav. Vul.|pg||
nt|lechcold: sporo zale¿y od wistu:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@c = 4+@d 6-9hcp OR Gameforcing|pg||
nt|psyck:  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/bocchi-madala.pdf|pg||
nt|psyck:  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/bocchi-madala.pdf|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  1@c = 16+|pg||
nt|boedhy:  these board tend te get in teh way if you let it make early in the match|pg||
nt|gracelin: 3NT is there but south is worried about his singleton spade.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 6@c 1@d  o 5-4 minore sing @S|pg||
mb|4S|nt|rhelle:  1@s = @h, unbalanced|pg||
nt|kit: I can't imagine not bidding 3@C on South hand|pg||
nt|athene: 1nt shows major-minor, shapely|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  1NT = relay|pg||
nt|ady: may get to 4@H     not a great contract   but can make|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  Rob Helle is teh coinventor of teh system Muller de Wijs are playing|pg||
nt|athene: overcalls are 3 or 4 cards with a longer suit somewhere else|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@H has a chance, 4@S is down on the heart ruff |pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  2@h = 4@h, 5+@d|pg||
nt|athene: so according to that scheme, lauria could have overcalled 1@H|pg||
nt|athene: or 1@S :)|pg||
nt|athene: but maybe, vulnerable, he thinks it's unduly risky|pg||
nt|athene: this looks like fairly old-fashioned precision club, so NS are just bidding naturally after the 1@C|pg||
nt|psyck:  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%202/hurd-wooldridge.pdf|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: say LR or bad game raise, danger of getting to bad game|pg||
pc|s9|nt|fabsayc: rusinow leads|pg||
nt|ady: 2@S   shows spade control?|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: which doesn't say a lot for their system, NS need to cah their 4 winners|pg||
nt|hlortz: the latest system of game tries is bid game and try to make... should fail here :)|pg||
pc|sK|nt|rhelle:  2@s = relay|pg||
nt|rhelle:  2NT = short in @s|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@S transfer to 2NT|pg||
nt|fluffy: probably transfer to 2NT|pg||
nt|ady: 2@S transfer to 2NT apparantly|pg||
pc|s5|nt|athene: quite possible that in the other room west opens a weak 2@S|pg||
nt|gracelin: good convention.|pg||
nt|barnets: north has a diamond guess to make 4@H|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|athene: but lauria-versace seem to be very conservative with their weak twos, and weak jump bids in general|pg||
nt|gracelin: it's seems those Italians always have a right gadget to describe their hands perfectly.|pg||
nt|gracelin: if ducked to HQ, a club shift will beat it.  So declarer may decide to go up with HK and wor on spade|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Narkiewicz bardzo kaszle|pg||
nt|hlortz: is it totally clear to rise aC if decl leads it early?|pg||
pc|s6|nt|boedhy:  So he knowes the system like nobody alse oh offcourse WEISMULLER themselver.|pg||
nt|lechcold: na 3BAxx atak poszed³ w kiera...nie powinni siê nasi pomyliæ |pg||
pc|h2|nt|antoniz: zabicie Asem i szansa na trzeciego Waleta karo,którego partner ma do³o¿yæ,trudne,ale to szansa praktyczna|pg||
nt|lechcold: tak|pg||
nt|lechcold: wiadomo, ¿e partner ma max waleta|pg||
nt|jkotor: 8 szybkich po puszczeniu|pg||
nt|lechcold: a jesli RGR ma AKW10 w kierach to puszczenie pika wypuszcza kontrakt|pg||
nt|garden2005: i duszenie|pg||
nt|antoniz: i jestemy w przymusie z 4-t¹ Dam¹ kier|pg||
pc|sA|nt|rhelle:  3@c = relay|pg||
nt|gracelin: of course, the club shift is only academic, nearly impossible in practical|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|rhelle:  3@s = 0-4-6-3|pg||
nt|boedhy:  WIESMULLER = Tarzan that is what they called their system|pg||
nt|rhelle:  Now North knows the @c losers will go on the @s AK|pg||
nt|brolucius: Takes away a round of bidding and may suggest a good opening lead.|pg||
nt|jkotor: zgadza siê, ale mo¿na te¿ zagraæ na impas i dzia³kê kierów (choæ przy renonsie trefl ma³o prawdopodobne)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now they can manage two heart ruffs if they diagnose the layout|pg||
pc|c8|nt|rhelle:  so he will get excited!|pg||
nt|kit: And in fact, N-S have profitable save in 5@C, and pushing opponents to 5@H (which likely would have happened) is a big bonus|pg||
nt|athene: slam might be harder to reach if west opened 2@S - what do you do with that north hand? just punt 3nt?|pg||
nt|athene: oh well, no need to pre-empt opps if they don't bid slams even when given a free run|pg||
nt|athene: really you should not miss this slam|pg||
nt|athene: if you play a strong club and opps politely yield you the floor|pg||
pc|cA|nt|brolucius: So many plusses in bidding.|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c2|pg||
nt|antoniz: brawo|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: wd Gosney|pg||
nt|hlortz: well done|pg||
pc|h6|nt|rhelle:  4@c = relay, asking for controls|pg||
nt|boedhy:  still needs the third round @H control|pg||
nt|rhelle:  4@d = 2 controls; an ace or 2 kings|pg||
nt|boedhy:  can he ask for it?|pg||
nt|rhelle:  yes, and he will|pg||
nt|rhelle:  4@h = relay, asking for high cards|pg||
nt|ady: 7 easy    8th have to work for|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|nt|rhelle:  5@c = @dK, @hK, nothing in @c|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|dA|nt|rhelle:  5@d = asking for more high cards|pg||
nt|rhelle:  5@s = DQ, not @hQ|pg||
nt|boedhy:  On the last board at the other table Verhees van Prooyen were in the better 3nt contract, which on the layout is cold..|pg||
nt|boedhy:  so a good start for teh home team.|pg||
nt|rhelle:  so really, NS are unlucky that South's red Q is in @d|pg||
nt|rhelle:  otherwise they'd bid 7@d|pg||
nt|athene: maybe south would have been better to raise clubs right away|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Doesn't look likely.|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ady: may cash club and try diamond to the 10|pg||
pc|d8|nt|barnets: entries mean he is likely to make it on the lucky heart diivision|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|boedhy:  still think a lot of pairs will end up in 7 @d tho and i dont see a way to make it|pg||
nt|rhelle:  5@h I don't understand - that is a sign-off|pg||
nt|rhelle:  in my version - clearly they play this differently|pg||
pc|h5|nt|rhelle:  I guess that they could sign off in 5@d|pg||
nt|boedhy:  taht should be possible...|pg||
nt|rhelle:  and 5@h is the relay, and 5NT shows the @dQ and denies the @hQ|pg||
nt|ady: that will bring 8 tricks  unless 6 card spade suit out|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ady: dont think so Barnet   favour diamond to the 10|pg||
pc|hA|nt|lechcold: profesjona³:)|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|ady: in any case thats 3 spades 1 heart 1 club and A@D to lose|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: wd|pg||
mc|9|nt|boedhy:  then now he is counting his tricks|pg||
nt|rhelle:  that would be useful refinement|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and stops at 12|pg||
nt|rhelle:  indeed. It could be 7 if @h are 3-3|pg||
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qx|o21|st||md|3SAJ76HQJ76DTCAJ64,SK43HKTDKQJ8732C3,S52H9543D4CK98752,SQT98HA82DA965CQT|sv|n|mb|p|nt|psridhar: Kamil shifted to @h so Fleisher shd hv got the count?|pg||
mb|1N|nt|rv: yes not best defense, but capitalized by Sartaj|pg||
nt|bebechira:  Fleisher shaking his head|pg||
nt|bebechira:  good hand for sartaj|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: So W didnt need the finesse in @d|pg||
mb|2C!|an|majors|nt|petergill: I will try to explain what I think went wrong in the defence to 4@S ....|pg||
mb|3N|nt|petergill: On their CC, NS lead 3rd's against suit contracts at Trick 1 ....|pg||
mb|4H|nt|rv: weak nt for E-W at these colors, many pairs play variable nt nowadays|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|psridhar: that deal was an american pitfall .....USA 2 also sold the same 4@s|pg||
nt|petergill: Their CC for subsequent leads says "same, but some attitude"|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: so perhaps N thought S should have led 3rd best @H, i.e. South had shown 3 hearts. |pg||
pc|h2|nt|rv: 3n was down on @c lead, E-W make 5@d, at these colors taking cash in 4@h double was best option|pg||
nt|petergill: whereas S decided to lead an attitude @H|pg||
nt|petergill: on Bd 20|pg||
nt|psridhar: Fleisher might hv reasoned that with QXX declarer may have thought of putting up the queen|pg||
nt|rv: good lead single dummy, doesn't work best here since declaring side has running side suit|pg||
nt|psridhar: we do not know the speed with which Sartaj played to the first @h so..|pg||
nt|petergill: As long as EW cash their @D trick, the NS spade loser will not vanish|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h8|nt|psridhar: those Clubs in dummy were a real bonus for Fleisher 's bold 4@H werent they?|pg||
nt|petergill: 790 now|pg||
mc|10|nt|petergill: A triumph for very bold NS bidding|pg||
nt|rv: yes @DA needed to be cashed|pg||
nt|petergill: or @DK|pg||
pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3SAJ76HQJ76DTCAJ64,SK43HKTDKQJ8732C3,S52H9543D4CK98752,SQT98HA82DA965CQT|sv|n|nt|athene: almost always the key in any tricky slam auction is how soon you can agree the trump suit|pg||
nt|gracelin: maybe another 3NT n this one|pg||
nt|lechcold: Grzegorz te¿ nie czeka³ z dobr¹ wiadomoci¹ (waletem karo):)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: indeed they did :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  I mean the last step you wasnt sure about that?|pg||
nt|ady: in fact west was squeezed last hand|pg||
mb|1D|nt|rhelle:  I'm pretty sure|pg||
nt|brolucius: 1@C is 3+ clubs and 11-21 points.|pg||
nt|athene: 14-16 notrump, fairly standard amongst strong clubbers these days|pg||
nt|gracelin: 1H to show spade.|pg||
nt|barnets: Italy now on board after USA bid 3N in other room|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Link to Convention Cards: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/docdefault.asp?page=2011Veldhoven&start=c%3A%5Cinetpub%5Cwwwroot%5Cecatsbridge%5Cdocuments%5Cfiles%5CConventionCards|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Just an overtrick.|pg||
mb|d|nt|boedhy:  well done then anyway :)|pg||
nt|rhelle:  NL is taking a bid lead|pg||
mb|r|nt|kit: I totally agree with this call.  South knows his side has at least 8 clubs and E-W have at least 8 hearts, so odds in favor of competing to 3@C|pg||
nt|athene: south should force this to slam i think|pg||
nt|athene: AJ10xx is a lot better than just 5 hcp|pg||
nt|lechcold: 1@S Narkiewicz?|pg||
nt|lechcold: nie s¹dzê|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: W apologized|pg||
mb|3C|an|weaker than 2!C|nt|fabsayc: not vul should balance|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: S alerted his 2@s bid - guess it show exactly 3@s and 8-10hcp|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  bidding 3nt is really strange....|pg||
nt|gracelin: Madala-Bocchi use trsf response to 1C opening|pg||
mb|p|nt|hlortz: will west try science or a simple 5@d?|pg||
mb|4D|an|strong|mb|p|mb|5D|nt|rhelle:  North feels he is too weak to handle 1NT X|pg||
nt|kit: And here it pushed opponents to poor game|pg||
nt|brolucius: N/S play 15+ - 18 for 1NT, so North was a shade light for that opening bid.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: "good dummy" says Einarsson after W put down his cards - I agree :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and W layed down his @sK as it was just a small @s|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: in between|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: 20-20 split here|pg||
mb|p|nt|idc: The defence had to stay away from both pointed suits here (@s & @d) which wasn't an easy task for them|pg||
mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: Aust allowed to make that 4@S for an early 12 imp lead|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ady: this may well fail|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|nt|rhelle:  South is now advertising a rally big hand - and North will bid 3NT|pg||
nt|boedhy:  bidding 3NT yourself much safer|pg||
nt|rhelle:  9 tricks are of course easy once the @cQ drops|pg||
nt|rhelle:  so the NS aggressive auction looks like paying off|pg||
nt|boedhy:  well it is sort of lucky offcourse on a @s lead you need that|pg||
nt|antoniz: 5karo mo¿na wygraæ,ale 4pik zawsze -1|pg||
nt|jkotor: znaczy jak w koñcu S otworzy kiera, co jest raczej oczywiste|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|brolucius: Some players would not have bid 3@C, vulnerable, worried that partner might have only 3 clubs. But you can see that making that pre-emptive bid has pushed E/W around.|pg||
nt|santyclz: S is likely to have 1 honor for the bidding, if it's a @h this is a good contract.  The @sk dooms it.|pg||
nt|kit: Still likely 1 loser in each suit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: actually it has value|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d4|nt|boedhy:  and 109xx of @d helps bogtime with that lead|pg||
nt|idc: Hard ask for East to lead a trump from a singleton at trick one, but a @c lead would have given declarer more problems|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: @cAQ throw a @s on @cJ|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|kit: Need both king and 10 of spades onside|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ady: long haul to 4th spade    meantime club switch best|pg||
nt|ady: then still 3 losers|pg||
pc|c2|nt|boedhy:  bigtime|pg||
pc|d5|pc|c4|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes.|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c5|pc|dA|nt|rhelle:  another claim - 10 tricks|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s6|pc|dJ|pc|h3|pg||
nt|brolucius: Three 'certain' losers and you need luck in both spades and trumps.|pg||
pc|d8|pc|c8|nt|antoniz: po piku,partner wyrzuci Waleta karo- to nakaz w kiera|pg||
pc|s8|nt|hlortz: needs to find Sj t.o dbl gives clue|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ady: still valiantly trying spades|pg||
pc|c9|nt|antoniz: brawo|pg||
nt|lechcold: mo¿e grac i w trefla|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h6|pg||
nt|antoniz: szanujemy zrzutki partnera|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ady: hears 3-3  squeezed|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
nt|ady: got the spade trick|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SQJ9874H4D7CQJT83,S5HAQT97DAKQT8C76,SKHKJ8652D962CK95,SAT632H3DJ543CA42|sv|e|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|petergill: not obvious that the hidden hand had such long clubs, but I think W could have worked out the danger|pg||
mb|d|nt|rv: I think Hans should be worried about threat of @csuit, he should have cashed @dk before playing second @h|pg||
nt|psridhar: there is an eerie symmetry abt this match..start with 2 pushes..and then 2 games sold on failure to cash setting trick by each in turn..|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|petergill: yes, he can count hcp and tell that North had only one high card, thus probably long clubs to an honour, so might as well try to cash @DK at Trick 2|pg||
nt|rv: romantic in PS coming to the fore, possibly mood of European holiday trip before trans-nationals:)|pg||
nt|psridhar: lol rv|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|s4|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c5|nt|psridhar: some play 4@d overcall on Sartaj hand as @d + @h....wd hv been an accurate description perhaps|pg||
nt|petergill: Mike Lawrence's "ecstasy" Bols Bridge Tip many years ago was that after the triumph (ecstasy) of 620 on Bd 620, maintaining 100% focus on the very next board can be tough|pg||
nt|rv: yes I like that treatment|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|psridhar: Peter's point is very useful indeed|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: other room in 4@hX W|pg||
nt|psridhar: for practical 'on-the'table' players it is an absolute MUST|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Weinstein overcalled 4@h|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|psridhar: 4@h X must be blood to Aus and 13 imps|pg||
nt|petergill: If you play 4!m as "@H + m" over 3@S opening, then you have to allow for off-shape Dbl on one-suited minor hands, I guess (i.e Dbl of 3@S asks partner to bid 3NT ahead of 4@H on ...|pg||
nt|petergill: some hands)|pg||
nt|rv: yes Peter|pg||
pc|h4|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h3|pc|cT|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
nt|petergill: Italy's West was in 5@D -1 after 2@S (wimpy?) - 4@D Leaping Michaels|pg||
nt|rv: in my view max IMPs are typically lost in the following areas in decreasing order a) Defense b) Comp bidding c) Slam bidding d) Declarer play|pg||
nt|petergill: Australia's South at the other table Nabil Edgtton is 19 years old so will not be wimpy. |pg||
nt|psridhar: RV -as an aside, the Butler will assess EW here as 'quits' on combo of Bds 20 and 21.... I wont be happy with that assessment if i were EW|pg||
nt|rv: yep point taken, you rest your case|pg||
nt|petergill: This is a young Aussie forusome: Nabil's partner is 26 or 27 y.o., Tony Nunn is 33 and Sartaj would be closer to 40|pg||
nt|psridhar: young Age will certainly help from QF stage onwards....BB is also about stamina|pg||
nt|bebechira:  Hans in the tank|pg||
nt|rv: gruelling tourney, 7 days of RR followed by another 7 days of play-offs|pg||
nt|psridhar: at least 2 or 3 nail biter finals in BB have stamina figuring in them in past-we all know|pg||
nt|psridhar: BB is even famous for the 'last deal syndrome'..a few of the finals|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sK|nt|rv: any country with title best national team in world for next 2 years is well earned|pg||
nt|petergill: This looks like 500 here to me, and perhaps about 500 from 3@S - 4@H X at other table|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
nt|psridhar: 300+ 500 =13 IMp is what i expected|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s8|pc|dT|pc|h5|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h9|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg||
pc|hK|mc|7|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SQJ9874H4D7CQJT83,S5HAQT97DAKQT8C76,SKHKJ8652D962CK95,SAT632H3DJ543CA42|sv|e|nt|boedhy:  other table south in 2@s.... not that easy  :)|pg||
nt|santyclz: Right, so "good" was an overbid.|pg||
nt|ady: push|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: could have made him guess|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  better to be in 3nt..|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: ooh double game swing USA|pg||
mb|3S|nt|rhelle:  intersting hand ... expect fireworks!|pg||
nt|kit: Flannery, may be 4-6 or even 5-6 as we see here|pg||
mb|4H|nt|boedhy:  offcourse South Africa not among the favorites|pg||
nt|rhelle:  true - but a very solid team|pg||
nt|brolucius: Terence Reese once described Flannery as the worst bidding convention ever invented. "It copes with a distribution that causes no problen whatsoever with natural bidding,' was his ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: view.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: at this vul they open weak nt|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Not everybody's 2@h bid...|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes 4@h let thru in OR|pg||
mb|d|nt|boedhy:  although Apteker Gower are a good international pair|pg||
nt|fabsayc: on board 4 isreal bid to 4@S down 2 off the top|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  And teh Netherlands are among the topfavorites especially on home turf|pg||
nt|rhelle:  5@c will be lead directing|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is very high up on Roland Wald's list of the world's 10 worst conventions too.|pg||
nt|santyclz: Roland agrees.|pg||
nt|brolucius: It has always staggered me that so many very good players use it.|pg||
nt|kit: big advantage of Flannery is that you don't have to respond 1@S to 1@H on a 4-bagger, so opener knows it shows 5.|pg||
nt|gracelin: yes, it will be 12-14|pg||
nt|gracelin: There is an excellent interview to Bocchi on the net.  I just don't know how to copy to long address to present to you.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@s asks for minor|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 3@d shows more d@s than @cs|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  well ... I think Italy is very strong, especially in the absence of the alltime strong USA teams|pg||
nt|brolucius: Roland thinks the convention is so totally awful that he forbids commentators to use the F-word. (I will let your one aberration go unreported on this ocasion, Kit.)|pg||
nt|ady: nice lay for 3NT e/w|pg||
nt|idc: The 3@c is minimum & without 4 card @d|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Some won't with 4 cards in the other major, some won't with a void, some will with one of those flaws but not both.|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: WE graj¹ Precison|pg||
nt|idc: a 3@d response to 2NT would have been 4 diamonds, min or max|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: very costly for Australia|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: some back here I expect|pg||
pc|sK|nt|rhelle:  South X of 5@c is interesting|pg||
nt|kit: Well, if I get fired it won't be the first time in my life :)|pg||
nt|santyclz: The x took no room, 4@c might have given e a problem --  although not in this case.|pg||
nt|daman:  http://neapolitanclub.altervista.org/eng/and-now-lets-talk-about-bridge-interview-to-norberto-bocchi.html|pg||
nt|gracelin: thanks, George.  You helped me out|pg||
nt|lechcold: 1@D nic o karach nie mówi|pg||
pc|sA|nt|boedhy:  yes probably has a specific meaning..|pg||
nt|rhelle:  showing the desire to compete|pg||
pc|s4|nt|boedhy:  and now he has done his part and passes|pg||
nt|ady: might make 12 tricks as they lay|pg||
nt|ady: might make only 9 if spade is ducked early by defence|pg||
nt|ady: when hearts split well will have 9 tricks and be relucant ti risk diamond finesse|pg||
nt|idc: as has been pointed out to me, a good thing E-W missed their @s fit|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|rhelle:  NS need to cash their 3 tricks in a hurry|pg||
nt|boedhy:  but looking at the hands....|pg||
nt|daman:  my oleasure     a great interview|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 3@d = more @ds than @cs|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the problem here was the wide range 1nt|pg||
nt|ady: needs to win in east hand to make 12|pg||
nt|barnets: we can see that but he is trying to guarantee just 9 tricks|pg||
nt|barnets: on this lead|pg||
nt|barnets: there is no absolute guarantee I can see|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: take the A , play @D and then take safety play perhaps for 9|pg||
nt|barnets: when he loses the lead the def shift to a spade|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: attitude lead|pg||
nt|idc: I wonder if any Multi 2@d users will play 6@h by West and suffer a ruff at trick one|pg||
nt|idc: or perhaps East passes in some matches and West becomes declarer that way|pg||
pc|h3|nt|lechcold: akurat w przypadku otwarcie 1@D nazwa "Precision" nie jest zbyt trafna:)|pg||
nt|idc: after a transfer to hearts|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|nt|boedhy:  5! is cold|pg||
nt|kit: Good judgment by all to reach par here|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|brolucius: West does not want to play a second top spade here.|pg||
nt|hlortz: might w dbl 3@S with the intent to pull @c to @D?|pg||
pc|d9|nt|boedhy:  @s|pg||
nt|rhelle:  the @s8 will be lavinthal for @d|pg||
nt|rhelle:  South can see he needs 2 @d tricks to defeat the contract|pg||
nt|rhelle:  so he needs the @dK in North|pg||
nt|rhelle:  might as well play the @dJ now|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|nt|kit: They show standard count on king lead 5-level or higher contract|pg||
nt|brolucius: East will have given count.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and make 10|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: better than the arvitrary 4@H|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|barnets: now he has the guarantee for his contract|pg||
pc|s2|nt|kit: Now, when West shifts to a heart East will have to deduce that reason West didn't cash second spade is that it isn't cashing.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: bound to lose the @D for safety|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|gracelin: 3C is also making here, so either 9 or 10 tricks will result in a tied board|pg||
nt|idc: Now declarer can claim, overtrick if @sK right|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: try this if you want to see live play, not very exciting http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|hlortz: this looks 2 off but i may wrong by a trick|pg||
pc|dA|nt|lechcold: 1@D to 11-15 punktów bez starszej pi¹tki i uk³adów pasuj¹cych do otwarcia 2@C|pg||
nt|kamyk: no i to w³anie jest precyzyjne opisanie charakteru rêki:)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|brolucius: East has advertised length in the majors, so declarer will probably play West for the @DQ.|pg||
nt|barnets: lets say north had K10xx in diaimonds and hearts were 4-2|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|boedhy:  difficult to see who must bid again|pg||
nt|kit: will just have easy squeeze -- will not need to finesse|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes|pg||
nt|kit: Note Levin's heart plays -- trying to hide king of hearts so declarer places him with other high cards|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer just needs one of SA/HK to be on side.  In fact both are.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: the t/o X was left in for 300 OR|pg||
pc|dT|nt|boedhy:  but think  South has a sort of lesser rick decision|pg||
nt|boedhy:  risk|pg||
nt|kit: I doubt if declarer will be fooled here, but still good defensive technique|pg||
pc|d6|nt|barnets: he would be down|pg||
pc|d5|nt|lechcold: w niektórych wersjach mo¿e byæ nawet renons karo|pg||
nt|barnets: on a spade switch|pg||
nt|ady: 1 imp for USA|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|gracelin: guess he will cross ruff to 10 tricks for the same imp as 9 tricks.|pg||
nt|twcho: best if EW plays non-leaping Michael here|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
nt|gracelin: he is happy with 9|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|nt|gracelin: now he might reject the H finesse for a safe 9 tricks|pg||
pc|c6|nt|brolucius: When declarer runs the trumps West will have to keep the @SA and so unguard the diamonds.|pg||
nt|brolucius: This would allow declarer to pick up the suit when West held x-x-x (and had to throw one) and East started with Q-x. |pg||
nt|santyclz: China took a 5 imp lead when on bd 2 w chose to lead the @dk, s ruffed the 3rd round high and finessed into the stiff @cq.|pg||
nt|santyclz: To see how a board was played at the other table with the download version, click "Movie", then "(other) Room",|pg||
nt|santyclz: click on the board you wish to review, and click Next to step through the play. With the Browser version click |pg||
nt|brolucius: The diamond position is known as a show-up squeeze, because East's @DQ-x may become 'shown up' after West has been forced to discard a diamond. When West follows low on the 2nd ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: round, his card is known to be his last in the suit.|pg||
nt|santyclz: click on the board you wish to review, and click Next to step through the play. With the Browser version click |pg||
nt|fabsayc: defense is playing with fire, jorgensen needs to avoid getting endplayed|pg||
nt|fabsayc: spade jack shift was totally safe after east discarded two cards in suit|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h9|pc|hK|nt|gracelin: HA and HJ|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|mc|8|pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1SAJTHQ95D762CJ763,SKQ93HK2DKT93CT82,S52HAJ8763DJ84CA5,S8764HT4DAQ5CKQ94|sv|b|nt|rv: Please check http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881 for running scores from other ...|pg||
nt|rv: matches|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|petergill: There are 3 X 16 board matches/segments each day for the whole 2 weeks of these World Championships|pg||
mb|2D!|an|one major|mb|d|nt|psridhar: heroic 1N vul that one ....|pg||
nt|rv: it looks like E-W pair play weak nt in 75% cases?|pg||
nt|petergill: the 2nd match starts 3 and a quarter hours after the first match, every day|pg||
nt|rv: 2@d is popular woolsey convention shows 1 major usually 6+cards|pg||
mb|2H!|mb|d!|nt|psridhar: that Nunn X may help them compete to 2@s|pg||
nt|petergill: and the 3rd match each day starts 3 hours after the start of the 2nd match - same session times every day|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|psridhar: and NS may abide by the law to 3@H|pg||
nt|rv: I think they play negative doubles till their side bids suit naturally|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|psridhar: we are back to accurate auctions|pg||
nt|rv: I like that treatment of playing negative doubles till our side bids naturally|pg||
pc|sK|nt|petergill: Right-sided|pg||
nt|petergill: Normal opening lead, but now |pg||
nt|psridhar: tonked the setting trick that lead unfortunately|pg||
nt|petergill: play trumps then spades and 140 = normal play|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|9|nt|petergill: Yes, EW play weak 1NT except in 3rd seat|pg||
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qx|c23|st||md|1SAJTHQ95D762CJ763,SKQ93HK2DKT93CT82,S52HAJ8763DJ84CA5,S8764HT4DAQ5CKQ94|sv|b|nt|rhelle:  Ns are playing very well; 6 plus scores on difficult hands|pg||
nt|santyclz: Other Table, click on the board and use the single arrow in the bottom right to step through.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Presumably South did not want to show off, by making such an erudite play.|pg||
nt|ady: to Italy    sorry|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: E: "@ss are always 5-0"|pg||
mb|p|nt|idc: The other table is slow so we won't be getting comparisons for a while, Brazil will feel that slam is a potential gain|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  and then finding out he makes the contract|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 13 back looks like a match of big swings|pg||
mb|1H|nt|boedhy:  think this last one will loose|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2h is supposedly 10-12, multi for weaker hands|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@h = 6@hs 10-12 hcp|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H!|nt|kit: Weinstein evaluates his hand too strong for 1NT opening due to good 5-card club suit and 2 aces.|pg||
nt|kit: 2@H call shows 5 spades, 4 hearts, invite values if I remember|pg||
nt|brolucius: The US South did enter on the @CK-Q-J-x-x-x hand and they then pushed E/W to 5@S for a 13-IMP swing.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Lost connection, up to speed now|pg||
nt|gracelin: EW can make 4H with the right guess of S, but they lack the points to go that high|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  against 5@s doubled|pg||
nt|pelu: can make - but not bid 4@h|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: so you were right Martin :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and this has stolen the board|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  Normall NS play 1NT as a good 12-15|pg||
nt|rhelle:  but 3rd and 4th hand, vulnerable, they play 14-15|pg||
nt|rhelle:  to avoid unwelcome penalty doubles|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i have the cc on my second computer|pg||
mb|d|nt|gracelin: Hi Peter|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  with all the good tens and the @h king onsite he will make 9 tricks...|pg||
mb|2S|nt|brolucius: Many thanks to our excellent VG operator for the bidding explanations. Roland told us that the operators have been practising for a while and they have certainly been very good.|pg||
nt|kit: Routine 4@S contract, will easily make 10 or 11 tricks, and almost sure to be same at other table.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: so you are cheating|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|twcho: so a partial pick up by USA1|pg||
pc|cA|nt|boedhy:  Well 5@h also played in the other room..|pg||
nt|fabsayc: just following the guidelines for commentators :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and that great :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: it is not always easy to see what the players are writing to eachother on their small pieces of pater|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: paper |pg||
pc|c4|nt|pelu: Hi Patrick|pg||
nt|fabsayc: ecatsbridge.com has cc for all participants|pg||
nt|ady: not much in this hand    maybe an imp|pg||
nt|idc: 2NT was a game-forcing hand with some @d support, 3@h we can only guess at|pg||
nt|twcho: 2@s will pose no difficulty for Weinstein|pg||
nt|hlortz: difficult hands with big swings at stake - fun for the kibs, onot so much for the players|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||
nt|lechcold: 4@S = minimum-minimorum, 5@C = 1 as z 5|pg||
nt|barnets: good lead|pg||
nt|idc: Thanks to our Operator, Paul, now we know 3@h showed a singleton|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|nt|vugraphznt: ok we are up after some difficulties|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: now it should be ok|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: thx to my new glasses :)|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s8|nt|brolucius: I am still getting kibitzers querying that it was right to enter with 3@C over 2@C on that South hand. Everyone knows that they should interfere over a strong 1@C, but it is just ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: as effective over 2@C, when the opponents are almost certain to have a game and will want to show their long suit rather than double you.|pg||
pc|sT|nt|vugraphznt: Running scores as asked :|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm |pg||
nt|idc: Martel-Stansby play attitude leads v NT, hence the @s6 (lower the card the more leader likes his suit)|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: there is a losing line right now|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Is s leading from jxxx or axxx?|pg||
pc|d3|nt|santyclz2:  Neither is high on the list of preferable opening leads.|pg||
pc|d4|nt|kareno: So the curious raise to 3@s led to a reasonable but doomed contract.|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|gracelin: it's all down the guessing S9 for either 9 or 10 tricks|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|s4|nt|fabsayc: but with no cover would be anti-percentage|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|nt|gracelin: SJ|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|kareno: The play I would make in spades would be the ten.  Then you can pick up any Qx or Qxx in south (opener's) hand.|pg||
nt|kareno: Why not?|pg||
nt|athene: lauria thinking about south's distribution|pg||
nt|athene: he has only five clubs|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|santyclz: In a lower level game it's frequently even more useful as the opps may have agreements to handle the situation.|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h3|pc|s6|pg||
nt|twcho: 7 imps for USA1|pg||
pc|dT|nt|boedhy:  still 9|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dA|nt|athene: so he has to have 4 in a major|pg||
nt|athene: if it's spades you are down anyway|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: all live scores can be found here http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|nt|gracelin: guess he will get 10|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2SQT5HJ5D98632CAT5,SJ94HAT98DAT5C843,SAK872HK62DQJCK62,S63HQ743DK74CQJ97|sv|o|nt|psridhar: may get duplicated Hans has a tough lead |pg||
nt|petergill: Was not a tough lead - the @SK stood out as the best lead in my opinion|pg||
nt|rv: yes agree with Peter|pg||
nt|petergill: "unlucky" lead = yes|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: Normal 1NT opener on 5332 shape keeps NS at a safe level|pg||
nt|psridhar: without that 1N , North wd hv declared 3@H/ 2@H so usa rates to win 6 there|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|petergill: Paul Gosney also will open 1NT, for sure|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg||
nt|psridhar: the little i hv seen of Weinstein, bd 23 he may not open the W hand |pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cT|nt|rv: I like 1n here as well, some might open 1@s with North hand, if @DQJ was @DK I may upgrade and open 1@s|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|h7|pg||
nt|petergill: Nabil has replaced me in this foursome (compared to last year's Aussie team - progress = youth replaces oldies) so I know the style of the players very well|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d7|pc|d2|nt|psridhar: Italy has scored 71 unanswered IMPs in 11 Bds against Brazil so far..|pg||
nt|rv: Peter, you are being very modest here especially progress part of statement:)|pg||
nt|petergill: Problem with opening 1@S is that you have a bidding problem after simple auctions like 1@S - 2@S or 1@S - 1NT|pg||
nt|rv: many kibitzers have privately texted you are best player in Oz on current form:)|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|s7|nt|rv: texted me|pg||
pc|h4|pc|d3|pc|h9|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d9|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg||
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qx|c24|st||md|2SQT5HJ5D98632CAT5,SJ94HAT98DAT5C843,SAK872HK62DQJCK62,S63HQ743DK74CQJ97|sv|o|nt|santyclz: (may not)|pg||
nt|athene: so he has to have four hearts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: also west was more or less marked with spade ace since opponents points had to be divided|pg||
nt|ady: flat   only 1 club out   so heart finesse was safe|pg||
nt|barnets: in open room wst in 5@H on @D8 lead|pg||
nt|idc: I guess declarer could lead twice towards his clubs on a red suit lead, so can't stop him getting a 9th trick on any lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz2:  Good cash by Martel.|pg||
mb|1N|nt|brolucius: Good point. Some play that an immediate double shows values, some that it denies them.|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: now it is looking more likely he is short in spades - with 2-4-2-5 he might open 1nt?|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: Italy on the rampage 71 against hapless Brazil|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|rhelle:  ah, a good hand for EW|pg||
nt|ady: overcalls gettin lighter and lighter|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|brolucius: 1@S shows five and is 11-21 points. |pg||
nt|idc: On Bd 5, Levin in other room has led the same @s7 as in this room v 4@h|pg||
pc|c5|nt|boedhy:  yes no alert on 2@c|pg||
nt|brolucius: 1NT is not marked as forcing on their convention card.|pg||
nt|gracelin: Italy had an average of 24 VPs in the last 4 matches but they meet resistence here, at least until now.|pg||
nt|pelu: in Or N open and they are on rute to 4@s|pg||
nt|idc: so that seems likely to be a flat game|pg||
pc|c3|nt|boedhy:  most pairs play some sort of relay in this situation|pg||
nt|boedhy:  think pass is wrong if west is not limited|pg||
nt|rhelle:  I guess it depends on the EW system|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: GF relay|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|boedhy:  5@c is very good |pg||
nt|boedhy:  difficult to see for Muller... now they will bid it|pg||
nt|boedhy:  probably|pg||
nt|boedhy:  does anyone know where we can find the runnning scores?|pg||
nt|kit: whether forcing, seme-forcing, or NF not much choice|pg||
nt|kit: But the 2@S preference is very questionable|pg||
nt|gracelin: with the fitting cards in H, north will bid agressvely|pg||
pc|s2|nt|boedhy:  Bauke not amused....|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Muller that is|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3 possible slams on this board, although 6@C is probably down on diamond lead|pg||
nt|barnets: dec rose K so is down in 5@H|pg||
pc|s3|nt|santyclz: Anyone for a 3@h bid  by s on the 2nd round?|pg||
nt|kit: How can North possibly take another call?|pg||
nt|brolucius: E/W stopped in 2@H making, for China, on the board where we saw South make a pre-emptive raise to 3@C. 5 IMPs.|pg||
nt|athene: of course if he has a singleton spade you are down too :) but if he has doubleton, what are the odds it is Qx?|pg||
nt|kareno: He is the opening bidder which changes things somewhat.|pg||
nt|kareno: And no @h k|pg||
nt|athene: yes, sure, it was close call|pg||
nt|athene: the @H10 here makes 6@H better|pg||
nt|athene: i mean better than it might have been :)|pg||
nt|gracelin: but he doesn't like his CK after the double|pg||
nt|pelu: but the D of 2@C sh slow N down|pg||
nt|idc: West's 3@d was a minimum hcp splinter|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|kamyk: ta kontra, to typowa akcja Narkiewicza - nie ma ziewania|pg||
nt|idc: I would have thought that that would turn East off, but he's gone on anyway|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|kit: South could have a doubleton spade and a 6-count it would seem.  Unless these bids don't mean what they look like.|pg||
nt|kareno: 6@h is practically laydown while 6@s relies on 3-2 spades pretty well.|pg||
nt|gracelin: yes, indeed.  A good stop, probably enough for them to ake the lead.|pg||
nt|gracelin: take|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i think li should have mentioned his hearts before raising clubs|pg||
pc|sT|nt|boedhy:  And apteker will get the @c right|pg||
nt|lechcold: wa¿ne, ¿e walet trefl jest tam gdzie byæ powinien:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Li is really taking his time here|pg||
nt|twcho: the J can be from QJxx(x) or J10x|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|pelu: looks like 4@S down 1 or 2 = 5-6 IMP for Italy|pg||
pc|sA|nt|fabsayc: new zealand is the surprise of the tournament so far, they are leading usa2 by 35-10|pg||
nt|barnets: west played north for @DA as he is quite capable of having|pg||
nt|idc: Ahha, West it was who took control with a 4@s RKCB|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|athene: if south knows his partner's shape then 6@H looks clear, with the good suit texture, even not knowing of the @H10 opposite|pg||
nt|kareno: Still it is hard to posit such a perfect fit.|pg||
nt|athene: a pity - my guess is south found out distribution but didn't know he was facing so many prime cards|pg||
nt|kareno: I would guess Italy will find the slam in the OR.|pg||
nt|athene: and he didn't have any way to make a mild slam try in hearts - if he had done so, north would surely have accepted|pg||
nt|barnets: a good pickup here for USA|pg||
nt|idc: Perhaps West could have tried 4@d instead, East cues 4@h, and they might stop in 5@c|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|boedhy:   http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|boedhy:  for the runnning scores click on live scores bermuda bowl|pg||
nt|boedhy:  still think much more system default or bidding mistake from Gower that they were not bidding it|pg||
nt|boedhy:  But Muller wil be thinking about this...|pg||
nt|rhelle:  sure - but as South you're still kicking yourself|pg||
nt|boedhy:  only one in 7@d on the board... Chili against Italy bog lead for them also|pg||
nt|yke:  some players might just open 1NT. But maybe they play 13-15 NT since they play precision?|pg||
pc|d4|nt|brolucius: 15+ - 18 1NT.|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
nt|brolucius: Anyway, as Kit remarked, they have had to take a rather close view to reach game after their chosen start.|pg||
nt|santyclz: Looks like 15+ to me.  Maybe a 5 card major is a barrier for them.|pg||
nt|gracelin: bad lucks for China that HK is not on side.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: that is 71-0 after 11|pg||
pc|hT|nt|fabsayc: diamond lead will create problems with spades 4-2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: in fact i dont see a way to make the hand|pg||
nt|idc: mind you, i've been in many, many worse slams than this one on a finesse|pg||
pc|h2|nt|fabsayc: so that unbid heart suit was the only making slam|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h3|nt|boedhy:  on board 6 I was right lot of peaple in 5@s even 4@s doubled...|pg||
nt|yke:  for me it is a 1NT opening. But that's just a matter of style|pg||
nt|gracelin: good play on route to 9 tricks.  Declarer can later duck a round of D, draw top trumps and pitch dummy's D on good H, then ruff a D.|pg||
nt|pelu: even with @HK onside there are hard work to make 4@s|pg||
nt|gracelin: same play if Hearts are 3-3, declarer can pitch one D on H to lose only 1S, 1D and 1C|pg||
nt|pelu: and 12 opp 11 - and bad @C-value is not game potentional in green|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer in 2S here needs to find way to encounter a possible 4-1 trumps break, thus the huddle.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
nt|athene: the hand might still prove difficult|pg||
nt|athene: the problem is north has a better hand than he might have, but not really enough to take control|pg||
nt|kareno: Spades break.  Or third club can be ruffed with ten of hearts.|pg||
nt|athene: and he can't show his extras very easily in a lot of auctions|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hK|nt|fabsayc: this table is also in time trouble|pg||
pc|h4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|sK|nt|santyclz: The Kaplan and Rubens Hand Evaluator rates the n hand at 16.50 http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi?hand=kq1085+ak5+k106+103|pg||
nt|brolucius: South had a choice of 2@H, 3@H and 2@S on the second. Maybe even 2NT. He was fortunate to find the game after choosing 2@S.|pg||
nt|athene: oh yes, i didn't mean in the play, i meant the bidding|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h7|nt|vugraphznt: 1@h left for the last 8 boards|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 1H|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ady: 5@H too high on a trump lead|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3SAQ9753HKQ4D3CT63,ST842HJ8653DA72CA,SK6H7DQJT98CQ9752,SJHAT92DK654CKJ84|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|petergill: After 11 bds, Italy leads Brazil 71-0|pg||
mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|4H|nt|rv: some might redouble with North hand to show honor doubleton|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: Rosenkratz double|pg||
mb|p|nt|psridhar: this is the sort of thin VUL games that one shd bid at IMPs wd|pg||
pc|sA|nt|psridhar: inspite of losing two trump tricks Nunn is likely to wrap it up|pg||
pc|s2|nt|rv: losing just 1@s and 2 @hs?|pg||
nt|petergill: with @D 5-1 and cross trump potential for EW, the play could be interesting|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|rv: cash @HA and cross-ruff the hand?|pg||
nt|psridhar: he may need to play @d King and another towards dummy before that RV|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|nt|petergill: Best to cash @DK then lead low towards ace, as the card lie, to get 2 @d's tricks before declarer cross ruffs - can one see this without looking at 52 cards?|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|s4|pc|dQ|nt|psridhar: he may try to ruff 2 more @s|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s5|pg||
pc|cK|nt|rv: not required if he uses @Cruff to get back to hand and ruff out 2 more @s|pg||
pc|c6|pc|d2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|h5|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d8|pc|hT|nt|psridhar: well timed|pg||
nt|petergill: After South's start, it's easy - just ruffing spades in dummy|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|rv: yes well played|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h6|mc|10|nt|rv: now another @h to try for OT|pg||
nt|rv: good technique|pg||
pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3SAQ9753HKQ4D3CT63,ST842HJ8653DA72CA,SK6H7DQJT98CQ9752,SJHAT92DK654CKJ84|sv|e|nt|santyclz2:  Slightly less than a 50% slam -- too good for Roland.|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: if it goes just something like 1@S 2@H [gf] 2@S 3@H, then north might find a 4@D cue or something to show a good hand for hearts |pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  North has a monster hand|pg||
nt|gracelin: The Italians can win imps either by overbidding or underbidding.  You have to admire their judgment.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this is why when you are in 2s you draw trumps and claim 3, so you dont do something stupid on the important boards|pg||
nt|ady: nothing nuch on here|pg||
nt|idc: So we have taken just 55 mins to play half the boards at this table, plenty of time left|pg||
mb|1S|nt|athene: some would overcall 1nt here, but pass looks fine with that shape|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  1@c = 16+|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and indeed Prooyen Verhees also bid it and even made a uptrick|pg||
nt|brolucius: The KR evaluator program seems to take a bizarre valuation of jacks. Roland quoted an example where Q-J doubleton was allocated only 0.75 points, compared with x-x. Seems much too ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: little for me.|pg||
nt|athene: wait till they bid hearts, then double for takeout :)|pg||
nt|gracelin: 1D shows H, as before|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  I doubt Campos, Villas-Boa have ever gotten a slow play warning, much less a penalty!|pg||
mb|1N|nt|kareno: Their system got the bidding too elevated before south could describe his hand.|pg||
mb|d|nt|rhelle:  1@d = 0-8|pg||
nt|athene: that's the classic recipe for that south hand|pg||
mb|2S|mb|4H|nt|boedhy:  Apteker was very happy to be in it and played very save..|pg||
nt|rhelle:  1@h = 19+|pg||
nt|rhelle:  2@d = 6-8, balanced|pg||
nt|boedhy:  can they get 6@s in south....|pg||
nt|rhelle:  so any 4333 or 4432|pg||
nt|boedhy:  which is very good|pg||
nt|gracelin: this is the Vul for weak NT.  North is in the range but decisde not to open on 5-4 distribution.|pg||
nt|pelu: 2@h and 3@C sh make - but thats max|pg||
nt|gracelin: when north did not open weak NT or rebid NT, south knows north has an unbalanced hand and should have 5+ clubs|pg||
nt|pelu: China in 2@H in OR|pg||
nt|lechcold: 2@D = kiery|pg||
nt|barnets: 3N|pg||
nt|twcho: The south player, Edgtton, is only 19 years old and is probably the youngest player in this event.|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  2@h = relay|pg||
nt|rhelle:  3@c = 4333 with a 4-card minor|pg||
nt|boedhy:  but the system will let it play in North probably and |pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: now versace runs to hearts and north doubles |pg||
nt|athene: but south won't (shouldn't) stick this, surely?|pg||
nt|athene: cue 2@H, check for 44 spades, bid 3nt otherwise|pg||
nt|athene: even though it's nice to go for penalties at this vulnerability, you know opps surely have an 8-card fit|pg||
nt|athene: so defending at the 1-level might well be wrong|pg||
nt|kareno: I'd think not.  His pass of 1@d doubled was likely influenced by the vulnerability.  As it is north was on the thin side of the double and might have eschewed the double of 1@h ...|pg||
nt|kareno: with such thin hearts.|pg||
nt|gracelin: 3NT is not making|pg||
nt|pelu: some work for 9 tricks here, |pg||
nt|gracelin: and as usual, Bocchi judged correct;y to stop in 3C|pg||
nt|barnets: looks ok to me|pg||
nt|idc: E-W task here to stop in time, since 4@s is as high as you'd want to get|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Brasilian player as a rule tend to be very fast.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: sad pics on the news, the south island of NZ is under flood waters|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: On this hand, East may have upgraded his hand to 18 points, with two tens that accompany other honours, and two 4-card suits.|pg||
nt|pelu: difficult lead for East|pg||
nt|gracelin: yes, but with Bocchi beind the wheel, I thk he can hold his loss to at most 4 tricks.|pg||
nt|ady: looks though they are heading for game|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: fast play --> fast dinner|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|rhelle:  3@d = relay|pg||
nt|rhelle:  3@s = 3-3-4-3|pg||
nt|rhelle:  as South promises at least 1 control (a king), the North hand is now looking pretty good|pg||
nt|boedhy:  then 6@s is is a little better then 50% because you can guess the @d and on a @d or non @d lead you get info|pg||
nt|brolucius: Had he opened 1NT, which I assume shows 15-17, West would doubtless have stayed low. |pg||
nt|santyclz: Changing the 10,8 to the q,j on the hand above yields 17.5 points, still low but more reasonable.|pg||
nt|kit: Note that Weinstein didn't even search for a 5-3 spade fit.  He judged that with 3-3 in hearts and clubs it was very unlikely that spades would take 2 more tricks than notrump, ...|pg||
nt|kit: which would be needed for 4@S to significantly gain over 3NT.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Excellent point.|pg||
nt|yke:  3NT is questionable to me. with a 5-3 fit you should play in spades when the long spades is the weak hand and in NT when the long spades is the strong hand|pg||
nt|yke:  because you might not be able to enjoy the long spades because of the entries|pg||
nt|kit: with AQx of clubs, there is no entry problem to the long spades|pg||
nt|yke:  good point|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Einarsson had a lot of water and now he goes to the toilet|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Amazing!  @ss are only 4-1 not 5-0.|pg||
nt|twcho: a trump lead will probably set the contract|pg||
pc|dK|nt|kit: At matchpoints there would be more incentive to look for a 5-3 spade fit, since making 1 extra trick in spades is worth something.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: after laying down his cards|pg||
pc|d3|nt|rhelle:  ah! a variation :)|pg||
nt|rhelle:  3@s is a strong 1-suiter, |pg||
nt|gracelin: even with this lead, if declarer is to ruff spade, he might lose a 2nd trump trick.|pg||
nt|pelu: some cross-ruffing af 9 tricks now - even play for 10|pg||
nt|gracelin: so likely there are still 9 tricks|pg||
nt|barnets: def have no tricks|pg||
nt|ady: the lay out is friendlt|pg||
nt|barnets: 2 clubs one spade|pg||
nt|barnets: one heart or 1 diamond should make|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|rhelle:  although why North wants to play a @s contract himself is a mystery to me|pg||
nt|boedhy:  well South africa has bid it and made it|pg||
nt|barnets: same contract in other room|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|rhelle:  4@c is a cue|pg||
nt|twcho: now declarer may succeed by ruffing three rounds of @s in dummy|pg||
pc|sA|nt|idc: With the preempt, declarer not likely to take 2 club finesses through South, and also likely to get trumps right|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ady: both 3NT  23 hcp|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|idc: but still some work to do|pg||
nt|twcho: running score can be found at http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: or the short version http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|twcho: :)|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sK|nt|boedhy:  now...... sign of or low @d lead...|pg||
nt|rhelle:  ai ... North may pass 4@s now|pg||
nt|lechcold: nietrafnie Grzegorz|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|rhelle:  I still think North would have done better to keep relay'ing|pg||
nt|brolucius: West at the other table did try to cash two spades against 5@S doubled and allowed the game to be made. |pg||
nt|athene: i suppose one down against 4@S making in the other room|pg||
nt|kareno: That heart five in north could possibly have been promoted to a trick with persistence in diamonds after cashing clubs.  The play is complex|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: very quick @H9|pg||
nt|athene: he is thinking that if he doesn't overtake this and cash the @DK for a spade pitch, the defence can draw trumps and cash two spades|pg||
nt|kareno: In that case the nine was a poor choice because it opens him to the promotion.|pg||
nt|athene: but the trick comes back for the defence with a trump promotion in diamonds anyway|pg||
nt|athene: well, he is always losing out one way or another - even if he didn't waste the nine, the defence can prevail|pg||
nt|athene: for example on a diamond if he can ruff high north can pitch a club and get a club ruff with the @H5|pg||
nt|idc: West won't be expecting a doubleton heart on his left, which might be the surprise that dooms this contract|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Particularly when s shows up with @h length.|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s5|pc|dA|nt|rhelle:  but, let's be honest, it's a marginal slam. Around 50%, so staying out of it is no shame|pg||
nt|pelu: @C9 8 7 6 are strong ruffs|pg||
nt|gracelin: east has doubled 1C, so he doesn't have a singleton HK.|pg||
nt|gracelin: now ruffing finesse in spade is the safe route|pg||
nt|gracelin: if instead, going to dummy with HQ and play another trump, West can win CK and play D to force declare losing control.|pg||
nt|barnets: with 4 tens and 3 nines though :)|pg||
nt|barnets: very nice intermediate spot cards|pg||
nt|ady: it is possible to mis guess spade|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|brolucius: 5@C doubled, I mean.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|boedhy:  and the small @d lead|pg||
pc|c4|nt|idc: It might have worked better to let that run I think, double dummy now to make it|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|kareno: Note the diamond ten, calling for a club (and why did north not play the spade queen on that first spade trick to show possession of the jack?)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well this hand could have been made too|pg||
nt|idc: the @c8 run i mean|pg||
pc|s2|nt|athene: anyway, a game swing back to bulgaria when duboin made a costly lead of @CA from AQJ against the 4@S|pg||
pc|d8|nt|athene: to be fair, it was harder for him to lead a heart when declarer had actually bid the suit|pg||
pc|h9|nt|ady: K@H exit now|pg||
nt|barnets: yes he needs to guess it|pg||
nt|barnets: same situation exactly in open|pg||
nt|barnets: @HK to ace|pg||
nt|barnets: the n@SQ|pg||
nt|barnets: from dec|pg||
nt|ady: north knows that east is aware of the diamond position and cannot afford to cash the queen  so would exit with a heart even with K@S|pg||
nt|barnets: brings home contract|pg||
nt|barnets: made by grue in open|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|ady: yes   that would be winning line|pg||
pc|cK|nt|idc: but this isn't an easy contract|pg||
pc|c3|pc|d2|nt|boedhy:  thirst imps to south africa|pg||
nt|ady: but if the king was with east that would fail|pg||
nt|barnets: so in open dec decided west had @SK so corectly led the @SQ in case he had !KJXX|pg||
nt|barnets: @SKJxx|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|d6|nt|twcho: and there is a live video stream at http://www.wkbridge2011.com/en/live|pg||
pc|cT|nt|brolucius: His partner had opened 1@H and he could not believe that he would hold five spades.|pg||
pc|h3|nt|pelu: so "only" 9 tricks|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
pc|sT|pc|c7|nt|brolucius: Still, a heart switch looked OK, because East could then switch back to spades.|pg||
nt|gracelin: for the same effect.  9 tricks|pg||
pc|hT|nt|barnets: must get it right now|pg||
nt|barnets: maybe not|pg||
nt|ady: if Bocchi does not make  USA will be well ahead|pg||
nt|barnets: the great players usually get this situation right at the table|pg||
nt|ady: giving due consideration|pg||
nt|barnets: using their table presence|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: a short break - players are going to the bathroom|pg||
nt|gracelin: China reached semi-final in the 2009 BB, but have a rough start here.  They tied Sweden in the last match. |pg||
pc|d5|pc|hQ|nt|idc: Weinstein/Levin have done well to flatten the 6@h on Bd 6|pg||
pc|h5|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|ady: got is right|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: riveting excitement it is not, guess it will never make prime tv|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h8|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg||
nt|kit: But would East know which would cash (from West's point of view)?|pg||
mc|10|nt|brolucius: Kit, what was the result when USA1 played USA2 in the first round?|pg||
nt|kit: usa2 by about 20 |pg||
nt|ni hao: think so:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: east shows both cards|pg||
nt|ni hao: sorry,private|pg||
pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4SK52H643D76432C52,SJTHQ95DQJ95CAQ63,SQ8743HKJ8DT8CKJ7,SA96HAT72DAKCT984|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|rv: Oz leading by 4 IMPs at half way stage (8 brds)|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|psridhar: Italy 78-0 over brazil now after 12|pg||
nt|rv: if it was boxing match, ref would have stopped contest there|pg||
pc|s4|nt|psridhar: 200 in 10 matches they arent leaving anything to chance are they?|pg||
nt|rv: double finesse in @hs works here, not in @cs, I suspect Hand will chose losing line|pg||
nt|rv: Hans|pg||
nt|petergill: EW play a weak NT and 5 card majors - 2NT asks East to bid 3NT with bal 15+|pg||
nt|rv: I suspect Hans will use @d entries to double finesse in @cs and go down|pg||
nt|petergill: Entry problems to West hand make the winning line hard to find|pg||
nt|psridhar: Fleisher has a tactical problem in 2nd rd of @s -does he cover or no? will Sartaj take appropriate inference then?|pg||
nt|bebechira:  Hans in deep thought..cards on the table|pg||
nt|petergill: Hard to be sure - @H toward queen then @H towards ten is about as good as double club hook|pg||
nt|rv: excellent point PS, I am not sure if either player will think that deeply and for Hans to take inference he has to give Fleisher plenty of credit|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s7|nt|psridhar: this situation defenders often find themselves in rt?|pg||
nt|famus: must cover to put him on the bd--he needs him to play from dummy|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|rv: Hi Hasan|pg||
nt|petergill: Do entries permit "cash @CA to check for bare honour then do the 2 heart plays"? Perhaps not|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dK|nt|rv: maybe Fleisher has though deeply and not covered|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg||
nt|psridhar: yes - not covering is deep psychological ploy per me|pg||
nt|rv: and Hans is giving him credit for that|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
nt|petergill: Normal play|pg||
nt|rv: if what we are saying is true, it is high class bridge on psychological aspect|pg||
nt|petergill: I think|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|h8|nt|petergill: West can now try losing a heart to South - combines chances well|pg||
pc|h2|pc|d4|pg||
nt|psridhar: Sartaj has done well rejecting the 2nd hook|pg||
nt|rv: well played Hans, now making on a end-play|pg||
nt|petergill: or might try to endplay South with @CJ - if he can tell who has @CJ|pg||
nt|rv: Fleisher needs to bare his @Hk now|pg||
nt|psridhar: a nice cat-and-mouse going on..|pg||
nt|petergill: Yes, baring @CK is N's only chance|pg||
nt|petergill: @HK I mean|pg||
nt|bebechira:  he is thinking...cards on the table|pg||
nt|psridhar: Note North didnt help by returning the @s 2 -but cleared with the 8 spot..|pg||
nt|psridhar: @s 3 sry|pg||
nt|psridhar: still Decl spurned the 2nd @c hook|pg||
nt|petergill: West is wondering whether to exit a club to South's possible jack, without setting up S's long @D|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|hJ|pc|c9|pc|d6|pg||
nt|petergill: Good redjack plays by W and N|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h9|nt|rv: well done|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|c3|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|cT|pc|d7|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|rv: great bridge all around|pg||
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qx|c26|st||md|4SK52H643D76432C52,SJTHQ95DQJ95CAQ63,SQ8743HKJ8DT8CKJ7,SA96HAT72DAKCT984|sv|b|nt|rhelle:  althouh advertised, still a nice lead|pg||
nt|barnets: well done in both rooms|pg||
nt|twcho: Weinstein has timed his play accurately without any danger of going down|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 1st flat board since the 3 we started with|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3C!|an|asking 5 card major|mb|p|nt|boedhy:  true|pg||
nt|boedhy:  two times|pg||
nt|boedhy:  three times|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Wijs could know that relaying would keep his hand hidden from opps|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and can he find out a @d control that way Rob?|pg||
nt|rhelle:  yes, he could|pg||
nt|rhelle:  this is why I'm surprised|pg||
nt|kit: Easy to reach slam here it looks like -- South can just take control|pg||
nt|rensph:  hi all|pg||
mb|3D!|an|no 5 card|nt|athene: interesting decision for south now|pg||
nt|athene: pass, 3nt, 4@H, double?|pg||
nt|kareno: I doubt south can double for penalty which is no doubt what he would want to do.|pg||
nt|antoniz: szlemiczek na impasie,zobaczymy|pg||
nt|idc: borderline slam hand this|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz2:  Looks like another 6@hs available.|pg||
mb|3N|nt|kareno: My choice under the circumstances would probably be the losing 3nt.|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: declarer will need to guess the hearts|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: 2NT is just marked as strong raise on the cards, but must be GF or South would not have bid just 3@H. |pg||
nt|santyclz: One of the few hands where blackwood answers all your questions.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Most players use it as game-forcing rather than 'limit or better'.|pg||
nt|kareno: If west leads that tempting diamond it is all over for south.|pg||
nt|athene: well 3nt hasn't got many tricks even if the @DQ isn't found|pg||
nt|kareno: Actually 3nt is doomed anyway but the diamond makes it quicker :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: the main clue being north will already have shown two aces|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  6@ss fails on a @c lead.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: system say 5 card major ask GF'|pg||
pc|d7|nt|boedhy:  south difficult decision now|pg||
nt|rhelle:  he didn't seem to think it was that hard :)|pg||
nt|boedhy:  first double?|pg||
nt|rhelle:  penalties, no doubt - 16+|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: West did not alert 2@C, thinks natural|pg||
nt|boedhy:  second double still take out|pg||
nt|rhelle:  2nd is take-out|pg||
nt|idc: N-S play a (mostly) game-forcing 2/1|pg||
nt|idc: and no doubt the sequence to 3@h will be forcing|pg||
nt|idc: South has bid this as a minimum opener with little slam interest, so North may give up now|pg||
pc|d5|nt|kiwibridge: and what if the answer showed @S|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|pg||
nt|gracelin: 2D is a safer contract than 1NT which can be set with 3S, 3C and a H.  Bocchi made a great lead to pave the way for a successful defense.|pg||
nt|idc: Had South tried a courtesy cue bid of 4@d (as he might) then I think they would have gone on|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  After 2 boards with good chances for USA, one with a chance for Brasil.|pg||
pc|cT|nt|boedhy:  2@c minors|pg||
nt|rhelle:  oh, that lead will make EW trump short|pg||
nt|rhelle:  and if then NS play 3 rounds of trumps, the roof will come down|pg||
nt|boedhy:  this will be disaster for EW|pg||
nt|rhelle:  especially as the West hand is dummy, so the defence is much easier that way|pg||
nt|boedhy:  yes|pg||
nt|boedhy:  the fact that he could lead the @s ten|pg||
nt|pelu: what a lead|pg||
pc|c2|nt|rensph:  quiet 1NT for EW here, diamonds break 4-4 so will end up with 6 tricks for defense|pg||
nt|gracelin: admittedly, he has no good lead with his hand.  He'd rather attack dummy's suit than declarer's suit.|pg||
nt|gracelin: south thinks to overtake and shift if north leads from doubleton K10, south has no entry to eastablish his spade anyway.|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|pelu: in OR @H-lead from N - and easy make|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: W pokazal 4333 10-13|pg||
pc|s4|nt|boedhy:  now he will try to ruff a @d|pg||
nt|boedhy:  so close to 6 tricks...|pg||
nt|kit: If Weinstein chooses to lead from a king he will lead clubs, since no double of 5@S|pg||
nt|santyclz: What a waste of a hand, a good relay pair could use 11 rounds of bidding to get to the same contract.|pg||
nt|kit: But the passive lead reasonable, and now declarer takes them all|pg||
nt|gracelin: but he allows Bocchi to have led from K10x.  He must have seen it before.|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer can duck this as well and defenders still need to defend carefull to ge all their trics.|pg||
nt|famus: wht a lead Bocchi made--amazing|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|nt|brolucius: Well, I am back after an alarming computer crash. All is OK again, thank goodness. Did I miss anything good? |pg||
nt|barnets: yes|pg||
nt|ady: yes   quite a lot of intersting hands|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|s5|nt|idc: though as I said, it is borderline: a @c lead might doom it on a different layout, or hearts both wrong, or @s suit not coming in|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|famus: oops sry|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg||
nt|athene: ok so as suggested, in the other room the tricky slam was found|pg||
nt|kareno: I use 2@c for strong hands and after intervention, I play that double by the direct hand shows extreme weakness.  That would have worked well in this case.|pg||
nt|athene: on board 8|pg||
pc|s8|nt|boedhy:  still best to play 3times @c now|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s2|mc|9|nt|twcho: not sure this hand better playing in 4@h than 3N even east has 5 cards in @H|pg||
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qx|o27|st||md|1SAQT6H97643D54C82,SK92HJ52DAK2CJ653,S85H8DQT873CQT974,SJ743HAKQTDJ96CAK|sv|o|nt|bebechira:  well dane... :)|pg||
nt|bebechira:  well done|pg||
nt|rv: I wouldn't mind paying money from my pocket to watch such bridge|pg||
nt|bebechira:  he looks happy|pg||
nt|petergill: Perhaps N should ditch @HJ one trick earlier --> less obvious to W that N has @hKJ|pg||
mb|p|nt|psridhar: i thought one says 'well dane' to only Roland:)|pg||
mb|1N|nt|rv: PS, Great Dane is lurking invisible|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|Walddk2:  He is doing voice|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: then W might try to endplay South with @CJ|pg||
nt|rv: re Roland|pg||
mb|2D|nt|psridhar: some Coke Roland ?|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N!|an|slamtry++|nt|Walddk2:  Yes, this is a coke hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: 2NT = do you have your usual crap hand?|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|psridhar: and 3N= i do but i care for game bonus?|pg||
nt|rv: :)|pg||
pc|s8|nt|psridhar: Relax Hans, this 3N wont be so hard as the last one.....|pg||
nt|rv: 9th trick on lead, he is thinking of OTs here|pg||
nt|petergill: I would have led @C10 with 2nd pick @C4 and 3rd pick @D7, but many experts like to seek partner's suit on poor hands |pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
nt|rv: as a habit is thinking before playing to trick 1|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|nt|rv: being discplined is important |pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|hJ|nt|petergill: My therory is that after E's slam try, the only way EW will go down is if one of North's minor suits happens to provide winners in time|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|d3|pg||
nt|rv: yes Peter, more of academic point though:)|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|c5|pc|d7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|sJ|pc|h9|pg||
pc|dT|mc|11|nt|psridhar: as of now 5 out of 11 matches are on 16-14 ...get whats Bermuda Bowl ?|pg||
nt|rv: Oz are approx 18 VPs short of last qualifying spot (8th), still a long way to go with 11 rounds to be played|pg||
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qx|c27|st||md|1SAQT6H97643D54C82,SK92HJ52DAK2CJ653,S85H8DQT873CQT974,SJ743HAKQTDJ96CAK|sv|o|nt|vugraphznt: Director came in to warn they have 40 min. left|pg||
nt|vasanti: .|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  1 pitch is all he needed from the @ss.|pg||
mb|p|nt|rensph:  looks like some excellent slams available for NS here, as long as N plays|pg||
nt|idc: Since N-S play 12-14 NT, the 2NT may not be minimum of course|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: we have 6 to go|pg||
nt|twcho: another pedestrian 3NT|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|ady: last 1 down1 for a push  |pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|rhelle:  3NT + 1 is quite a nice result from the other table|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 1@H shows spades|pg||
nt|idc: In a 2/1 system I always like 2NT to be the 'bucket bid', were all the poorish hands go|pg||
mb|1N|nt|rensph:  south will show a strong hand with diamonds which should get north excited enough to try for slam|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: DBL = take-out of @ss|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznt: Nice tool, 3@D by lauria would be very good overcall in @S, perhaps more|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: RDBL = 3@ss|pg||
mb|2D|an| |nt|rhelle:  1NT = relay|pg||
nt|brolucius: East perhaps hopes to be able to redbi 3@D, to show that hand.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: given their light openings getting the chance to play 1@S may be an advantage|pg||
nt|twcho: east may probe for slam while west will reject at every opportunity|pg||
mb|p|nt|rensph:  I'm not sure I agree with 5@D here|pg||
mb|2H|nt|rhelle:  2@c = @c|pg||
nt|twcho: 2@d is GF checkback|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|an|4!S and 4!H|nt|gracelin: Wonder how 6C was made at closed room.  Seems the bad break in spades will sink it.  SA and spade will surely beat it.|pg||
nt|barnets: grandslam here|pg||
nt|brolucius: 4@C show at least a sound raise to 4@H and promises nothing so far as a club control is concerned.|pg||
nt|barnets: bid in poland sweden match|pg||
nt|brolucius: South's redouble shows a club control.|pg||
nt|barnets: by sweden for swing|pg||
mb|p|nt|rensph:  They did manage to avoid 6@D but I believe south could've cuebid over 4@D|pg||
nt|twcho: nothing about @d|pg||
mb|2N|nt|rhelle:  2@d = relay|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Muller is known for his slow play |pg||
nt|rhelle:  3@d = 3-1-5-4 exacty|pg||
nt|kit: 2@D by Bobby would not be natural -- however, 2@S shows invite values|pg||
nt|brolucius: Madala will now hope for the best in trumps, I guess, and pot 6@H.|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: What would he bid with 7-8 and a doubleton spade?|pg||
nt|kit: he would bid 2@H, transfer to 2@S|pg||
nt|brolucius: I see. It is good to have such accurate methods.|pg||
nt|gracelin: NS conducted a Gazzilli auction here.|pg||
nt|gracelin: 2C is normal response to forcing 1NT or any 16-17 up hand, 2D is 8 p and GF|pg||
nt|twcho: 2@h shows 3 cards in @h|pg||
nt|twcho: 2@s is probably natural|pg||
nt|twcho: and 2N deny 4 cards in @s|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: no alert for 2@S|pg||
nt|twcho: tks|pg||
mb|3N|nt|boedhy:  and 40 minutes for 6 boards is not much...|pg||
nt|brolucius: For the past few weeks I have been doing voice commentary instead of tap-in commentary. It is good to see that I can still type OK. |pg||
nt|santyclz2:  That has the benefit of a rebid of opener's suit showing 6.  Using the rebid of opener's suit as the |pg||
nt|idc: The 2@s bid in this sequence is invitational, 5-cards @s and unbalanced|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: 5@S was a fine bid by south|pg||
nt|barnets: holding just J high trumps|pg||
nt|barnets: he kept a grandslam option open|pg||
nt|brolucius: I wouldn't have risked it with those trumps!|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 5@S was less serious try then 5NT|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: than|pg||
nt|brolucius: Many thanks to Bob for the bidding explanations. How they find time for it, as well as putting in all the bids and plays, I will never know.|pg||
nt|ady: what is best lone in 7    ruff 4 clubs in south hand?|pg||
nt|barnets: with such good trumps perhaps north should have accepted the invitation to the party|pg||
nt|twcho: OK, east decide that slam is quite far-stretching and simply end the auction by bidding 3NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  luckly easy 3nt..|pg||
nt|barnets: the key to bidding many slams is who has control of the high trumps|pg||
nt|barnets: north knows his partner has invited a grand slam|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  "bucket bid" is another popular method.|pg||
nt|idc: And I don't think it implies holding hearts as well as the spades|pg||
pc|d7|nt|pelu: East (Sementa) lead @sA - but then in trick 2 @DA :(:(|pg||
nt|famus: cud b a swing|pg||
nt|gracelin: I don't blame him.  He was looking at his 2 Aces, and these Chinese did bid slam off 2 Aces before.|pg||
nt|barnets: and he has AKQ of trumps|pg||
nt|twcho: just a matter of overtricks|pg||
nt|hlortz: they stayed ouy of trouble|pg||
nt|twcho: yes, even 4NT is not cold|pg||
nt|twcho: the 1@c opening has dissuaded north from leading his stronger minor|pg||
nt|twcho: and this lead immediately give declarer the 9th trick|pg||
pc|d9|nt|pelu: so 11 to 14 IMP on way for China|pg||
pc|d4|nt|famus: may be--cant say till it ends|pg||
nt|gracelin: As north has not shown his 6th spade here, East may not find the killing defense.  However, without cashing SA, I thk 6C is still in trouble.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: he has shown 6sp and 4H already|pg||
nt|pelu: will S pass to 4@s?|pg||
nt|gracelin: don;t thk North will ass, South has shown 8+|pg||
nt|ady: not enough entries to ruff 4 clubs|pg||
nt|brolucius: You can see how important the 4@C bid was set the slam ball rolling. If you could only bid 4@C with a club control, it would be a tricky time for North.|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|brolucius: The advantage of doing the tap-in commentary is that you have a split second to check whether your comment is completely stupid before you press enter.|pg||
nt|kit: yes, but then when you do say something stupid you look so bad :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Against that, some duff comment is preserved for posterity on the VuGraph web-sites. If you say something clueless, no-one records it and you can hope that the spectators thought ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: you were joking.  |pg||
pc|s3|nt|boedhy:  still @h stop|pg||
nt|gracelin: pass|pg||
pc|s6|nt|rensph:  North might very well have bid 6NT after discovering @SA and the lack of a club stopper in partner's hand|pg||
nt|famus: he knows 11@s|pg||
pc|s9|nt|ady: ruffing 3 diamonds in runs risk of 10@H making for defence   I think small slam is enough|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|h2|nt|brolucius: "He writes books about bridge, he can't possible be that stupid..."|pg||
nt|kit: Weinstein handled the spade suit quite effectively|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hA|nt|barnets: on this hand the @DKQ fall in 3 rounds|pg||
nt|barnets: so dec needs only ruff 2 diamnds|pg||
nt|barnets: but that is fortunate|pg||
nt|ady: but grand slam not good enough |pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, that's right.|pg||
nt|barnets: and the practical odds is close but maybe not enough|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|twcho: a tie bd|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|nt|vugraphznt: claiming |pg||
nt|gracelin: only 10 tricks and 11 imps to China|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Just a short break here -- Li has to go somewhere else :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: smoker?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: no I dont think so :)|pg||
nt|barnets: but north did not know that south was so minimum for his invite|pg||
pc|s2|nt|vugraphznt: 3 sp for you Bocchi says|pg||
nt|barnets: and maybe should have bid it anyway|pg||
nt|brolucius: It's not a situation where you need to bid an against-the-odds contract because you are behind. All the VPs from all the round-robin matches are added, so you must play with the ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: odds throughout.|pg||
nt|ady: taking long enough in 6@H     |pg||
nt|barnets: the grandslam was bid at both tables in the poland sweden match|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sK|mc|11|pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2SJT2HK9652D3CA942,SQ75HJ4DAK86542CQ,SA983HAT7DQJCKT75,SK64HQ83DT97CJ863|sv|n|nt|petergill: Team profile of USA1 http://bridgewinners.com/index.php/usa1|pg||
mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|petergill: and team profile of Australia http://bridgewinners.com/index.php/australia|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: US-1 are in 5th spot approx 10 VPs more than last qualifying spot|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|psridhar: is 2@H enuf on that S hand?|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|psridhar: seems too good to me for tht|pg||
nt|petergill: The very friendly club position makes 4@H possibly makeable|pg||
nt|psridhar: wasted QJ of @d on the table , he might be proved right by the result|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg||
nt|petergill: On Bd 27, Kamil played @SA, not @S10 at Trick 1, just in case declarer had a bare king|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
nt|rv: I prefer 3@h with South hand|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|nt|psridhar: partner made a t.o X and i have 5-4-3-1 shape with an ace and a king, 2@h seems insufficient to me|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|d2|pc|hT|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d7|nt|psridhar: both ace and king are in his long suits enhancing the purity |pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
nt|rv: 3@h as strongly Invitational, partner should raise with 4 trumps min or working 14-15 hcp and even 3 trumps|pg||
pc|s9|nt|petergill: but light t/o X's have become "in vogue" ---> perhaps 2@H is enough|pg||
pc|d9|pc|c4|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|d5|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2SJT2HK9652D3CA942,SQ75HJ4DAK86542CQ,SA983HAT7DQJCKT75,SK64HQ83DT97CJ863|sv|n|nt|athene: tut tut, lauria not paying attention|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: he says sorry and sigh's   but with a little smile :)|pg||
nt|pelu: and here NS will hope for a win on this board - for sure not losing 11 IMP|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: talking about system|pg||
nt|brolucius: West might have led a singleton spade, so J-9-x-x with East was not so likely.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: claimed 6,  agreed making 7 afterwards|pg||
nt|brolucius: I wonder if they are running into time trouble.|pg||
nt|hlortz: dull bring back the goulash hands :)|pg||
mb|1D|mb|d|nt|kareno: Yes he had a winkle|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: 3@D better than double on that shape.|pg||
nt|gracelin: indeed.|pg||
nt|idc: We heard a comment at the table earlier that 'spades are always 5-0', so I guess this 4-1 counts as a favourable break|pg||
mb|2H!|nt|athene: i double versace passed 1nt|pg||
nt|athene: i doubt :)|pg||
nt|rensph:  W might be tempted to bid a thin game here, but it's NV so might very well pass this|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz: So much for 3nt by n...|pg||
nt|kit: 4@C a little scary -- Weinstein thinks opponents might have a slam.|pg||
nt|pelu: but a problem for NS that they never found their 5-3 fit in @c|pg||
nt|lechcold: transfer na kolor wroga to Stayman|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: but many would just bid 3nt rather than use stayman|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz2:  And onside too!|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: as they were in bd. 9 ;)|pg||
nt|idc: Can't find 2NT on CC|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|nt|idc: if it asks for short suits, that 3@c will encourage him|pg||
pc|dT|nt|brolucius: 5@D was a sensible option by North. Some would bid 5@C, claiming that they couldn't be any better for a passed hand. But South only made a simple overcall.|pg||
nt|brolucius: The VuGraph records are saved in various repositories (one is Nikos Sarantakos's VuGraph Project), so we can look up how other teams bid and made 7@H.|pg||
nt|ady: was worn out by then|pg||
nt|idc: But then if that is a return short suit try, South will be discouraged|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: E thinks|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|rensph:  Creative approach by W - had east shown a 5card major he'd be ok with that, too|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this contract is touch and go, good guess in diamonds may see it home|pg||
nt|idc: ahha, am told 3@c is forced relay, then opener makes short suit try|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|gracelin: They may end up in 2S with the Gazzilli.|pg||
pc|cK|nt|kit: He could be a lot better as a passed hand.  Stiff in a major.  Queen of clubs someplace else.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes.|pg||
nt|gracelin: All othe bids by south will show the strong hand|pg||
nt|gracelin: this is one disadvantage of the Gazzilli.|pg||
nt|gracelin: this time he has a very healthy 5-card suit.  North is worry south ma bid the same way with a much weak 5-card suit.|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: ?|pg||
pc|hA|nt|fluffy: my limited understanding of gazilli says that 2@c is either nat or 16-18, 2@d is 8+ any, and 2@s shows spades and clubs minimum|pg||
nt|gracelin: sout may pass 1NT with 12-13 pts in order not to be involved in the Gazzilli.  But with 14 he fears losing game if north has 10-11, even a passed hand.|pg||
nt|gracelin: south|pg||
nt|idc: Stansby declines the game-try but 4@c leaves North a different problem|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|nt|vugraphznt: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|fabsayc: actually this strange looking play is quite good|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: for running scores|pg||
nt|fabsayc: saving spade king for a late discard|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  As long as the x isn't takeout.|pg||
nt|idc: His dbl looks sensible|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|fluffy: the reason why south bid 2@c instead of passing 1NT is that he might be facing an 11 point balanced hand|pg||
nt|gracelin: you are quite right.|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hK|nt|rensph:  N missed a chance to give partner 2 ruffs there, now it looks like 3@D is making|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|fluffy: but normally 2@s is with 4 clubs|pg||
nt|gracelin: EW play a very natural system and use standard sugnals|pg||
nt|gracelin: signals|pg||
pc|sT|nt|kareno: I use two-way stayman and with game values, I do always check.  That my hand is balanced (4333) doesn't mean partner's is also the same, particularly with the modern tendency to ...|pg||
nt|kareno: open a lot of 5/4 hands 1nt.|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|nt|kareno: So the auction, say, 1nt - 2@d (gfs) - 2@s - 3@s offers a choice of contract.|pg||
nt|rensph:  declarer will have to choose between finessing in clubs or spades|pg||
nt|idc: I think I like the logic behind SOuth's lead: partner has short hearts so where are E-W tricks coming from except ruffs, so lead a trump|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|nt|boedhy:  this is close|pg||
nt|rhelle:  yes, one or two good decisions required|pg||
nt|boedhy:  needs to play @d|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and as Muller is playing it will take some time|pg||
nt|boedhy:  then he will play @d offcourse|pg||
nt|rhelle:  indeed- if only to get information how to play @ss|pg||
nt|kit: Declarer has nervous moments -- feels a lot better with king of hearts onside|pg||
nt|gracelin: after the HK lead, the H10 is irrevelent|pg||
pc|d8|pc|hT|pg||
pc|d9|nt|rensph:  ...unless defense solves this problem for him|pg||
pc|h6|nt|gracelin: the D shift deceived declarer, playing D strength with E|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Or, as Papi says:  "You need a reason *not* to lead trumps".|pg||
nt|idc: At the vulnerability East wanted to suggest a 5@c sac to his partner, hence the 4@c bid|pg||
nt|idc: If any blame is to be awarded, West's dbl perhaps deserves it (though -300 instead of -140 no disaster)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|pelu: thats a mistake by S - sh take @DA and play 3x@s|pg||
nt|hlortz: 1 imp if he makes 4|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|kit: Now will strip out hearts and clubs, and then try to duck a spade to West|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s8|nt|brolucius: By eliminating the side suits, he can survive when East holds @SQ-x.|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|gracelin: instead of taking 2 D tricks, Madala takes none by this defense.  He is not headed for -2|pg||
nt|idc: USA avoided the slam on failing finesse on Bd 8, so their lead up to 21 IMPs|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
nt|kit: Levin will go up ace of spades, hoping partner has KQ -- only chance|pg||
nt|twcho: good play of @s10 first|pg||
nt|twcho: south doesn't want west to cover with honor|pg||
pc|s9|mc|10|pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3SK76HQT72DJ96CT87,SQ9542HK43DAQ4CA9,S83HJ6DKT873CKJ62,SAJTHA985D52CQ543|sv|b|nt|petergill: Nabil Edgtton also bid 2@H as South, so the board will be fairly flat|pg||
nt|rv: what would your choice PS? 3@h or jump to 4@h?|pg||
nt|petergill: I would bid 2@H opposite a light t/o doubler, and 4@H opposite a concervative partner|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|psridhar: in my system 3@H = long @h and nothing else ; but fortunately my 2@d cue is not nec gf, can contain invitn hands too-so i wd hv bid 3@H via 2@d|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|nt|petergill: Strong 1NT in 3rd seat - 15-17|pg||
nt|psridhar: perhaps as Peter says, 4@H is the practical bid|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|rv: 9 th trick on lead, after playing a tough 3n accurately, Hans is getting to play couple of easy ones|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sK|pg||
pc|d9|nt|psridhar: both bds 25 and 27-the two wellplayed ones here- turned to be pushes, so we are watching a tough contest|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dK|nt|psridhar: sry 25 and 26|pg||
pc|c3|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|sQ|nt|petergill: Sartaj Hans feels strongly that the 11-14 1NT is not worth playing in 3rd seat, as the good auction 1NT - 3NT cannot happen, and the risk that 4th seat can pen dbl "3rd seat weak ...|pg||
nt|petergill: 1NT" is very real|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|s9|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
nt|rv: yes except for misdefense by each side here, it has been very high quality and tough match as predicted|pg||
nt|rv: Please accesshttp://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881 for running scores from other ...|pg||
nt|rv: matches|pg||
nt|petergill: EW Convention Card http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Australia/hans-nunn.pdf|pg||
pc|s5|nt|rv: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|h4|nt|psridhar: Ranks 17 to 22 have been firmly occupied by the same teams RV- i am very unhappy abt that, when will it change? :(|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c29|st||md|3SK76HQT72DJ96CT87,SQ9542HK43DAQ4CA9,S83HJ6DKT873CKJ62,SAJTHA985D52CQ543|sv|b|nt|brolucius: Yes, good defence.  did not want to be caught giving a ruff-and-discard on the second round of spades|pg||
nt|athene: after 1@S - 1NT, how many clubs?|pg||
nt|athene: i bet he bids just two|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  2@c = 11-15, 6+@c|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: NS do play 1@S - 2@D as hears|pg||
nt|rensph:  other table reached 3N and made it, so 7 imps to South Africa|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  south will bid 3nt|pg||
nt|rhelle:  2@d = relay|pg||
nt|athene: hearts|pg||
nt|kareno: Two - no need to preempt with a solid opening bid.|pg||
nt|gracelin: China has another chance here, 6S is cold|pg||
nt|fluffy: not your everyday vulnerable preempt|pg||
nt|fluffy: 6@s is far from cold requiers a good guess i ntrumps or in the minors|pg||
nt|gracelin: in Italy they say Vulnerability is for children and Bocchi is no children.|pg||
nt|fluffy: normally you should gues trumps, but you are not entry rich to dummy|pg||
mb|1N|nt|athene: but they won't use the bid with this hand|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  W bids 4@d before n can.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 3 1's to Aus with a flat inbetween each|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  2NT = balanced|pg||
nt|kit: This is as flat a 4@H hand as you will find, it sppears.|pg||
mb|3C|nt|idc: I once made a weak jump on 7 to AK in diamonds, quite proud of it until my '@h'Q turned out to be a missorted diamond|pg||
nt|idc: a weak jump on AKQxxxxx was consider over-sound by my peers|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  q10xxx in the midnight swiss...|pg||
mb|p|nt|fluffy: aat least with the club opening he will guess clubs|pg||
nt|pelu: Shi didnt dare to cue 4@d|pg||
nt|gracelin: guess Lian will move on|pg||
nt|pelu: but Lian still looking for slam|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: he had taken a bid but took it back|pg||
nt|idc: and 'weak-jump' became my nickname for a while (till I did something even worse)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 6@d = 500|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: this doesnt look right|pg||
mb|3S|nt|rhelle:  (no singleton or void)|pg||
mb|p|nt|rensph:  6@S makes on the rather fortunate heart position here, but they'll likely end up in 4@S|pg||
mb|4S|nt|boedhy:  2227 balanced tehese days :)|pg||
nt|athene: wow, only 2@H|pg||
nt|athene: i would want to bid a few more than that after partner doubles clubs for takeout|pg||
nt|idc: That's a good auction|pg||
nt|idc: Particularly by North, appreciating power of his shape after partner's negative dbl|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Now what?  6 of a major looks likely  on the bidding (if not the hands).|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: this should be down, even down two is possible|pg||
mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: missed a pass Karen|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  well maybe south should go for 3nt then ?|pg||
pc|s8|nt|boedhy:  sort of wrongsided it now|pg||
nt|boedhy:  could it be slam looking form south...|pg||
nt|kareno: I also play that double as takeout.  And they have a light opening style with the forcing club system.|pg||
nt|rensph:  wouldn't want to get anywhere near 6@S usually|pg||
nt|fabsayc: best now is spade shift|pg||
pc|sT|nt|santyclz: USA 1 took a big lead when China went down in 4@S rather than the 3nt on bd 25.|pg||
nt|brolucius: You remember the deal where Levin upgraded a 17-count to 18, reaching 3NT opposite 7? China played that deal in 4@S, on a 5-3 fit and went one down. So, Kit's advice on the deal, ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: that West should not seek a 5-3 spade fit proved to be good advice.|pg||
nt|gracelin: if they are there, I am quite sure Shi will take 12 tricks.  He is the best player in the team and reach semi final in BB in 2009.|pg||
nt|idc: Stansby's dbl started as minimum but I guess even his hand feels a little improved on auction|pg||
nt|idc: the 6@d bid should warn declarer of bad breaks ahead|pg||
nt|idc: I admit I might be tempted to do less as South - perhaps dbl is a little pesimistic but a forcing pass of 6@d maybe best|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: how to play now? not over yet|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  now is there some way to endplay w with the @h loser and force a @s lead?  I don't see one,  but that doesn't mean one doesn't exist.|pg||
nt|idc: Oh, I suspect this won't make - need a 12th trick from another @d ruff or a spade|pg||
nt|idc: and this attack on dummy's trumps probably too hard to handle|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Martel reading a book|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: "Starbound " that is|pg||
pc|s7|nt|fluffy: if declarer missguesses trumps he will need to find @dQ|pg||
nt|fluffy: or squeeze south in the reds|pg||
nt|gracelin: not a difficult task|pg||
nt|pelu: 5@S = 2Aces + @SQ - Lian exp @sAKQ :)|pg||
nt|gracelin: he even has time to establish a long Heart|pg||
nt|famus: natural for him to play !j--but if he opts to play a small @s--the play ends at trick 2|pg||
nt|famus: @sj|pg||
nt|daman:  here is the vugraph schedule so you can plan your days and weeks      http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
nt|pelu: he know that N is short in @S, so he could play @S6|pg||
nt|famus: that wud end the thrill!!:)|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer has so many entry to dummy, so I thk to take CA and play small spade to finesse S10 is the right play|pg||
nt|fluffy: Imaine for example playing a low spade and south ducking @sK9xx he might lock you in dummy with a heart and you have no way back to hand except destoying you chances of stablishing ...|pg||
nt|fluffy: @cQ|pg||
nt|pelu: this will be the 3. slam-swing in the match - the first 2 gave China 25 IMP and prob 12 more here|pg||
nt|gracelin: China should be proud of themself in outbidding the Italians in 3 slams in one set.  If Shi makes this.|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|pelu: but one of the slam only maded on a defensiv error|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: yes sorry:)|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: this time he finds the 5 card major|pg||
pc|d5|nt|athene: various ways to come to nine tricks here|pg||
nt|athene: take a ruffing finesse in spades is one|pg||
pc|d6|nt|boedhy:  offcourse it was 50% but south has a very strong hand imo|pg||
nt|gracelin: Shi must be thinking harder than we do except he is not looking at all 4 hands.  I am sure the line he chooses is the best one.|pg||
nt|daman:  here is the page for the result fromthe 3 events     http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|famus: so the Chinese wud b the first to put a dent in this Italian Juggernaut--They've rolled over evry other opponent mercilessly, and i dare say artfully till now|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s3|nt|rensph:  pointed out to me that it's not 12 tricks if E leads a club through, so S would have to play the hand in order to succeed. :)|pg||
nt|idc: I still admire the auction (by both sides) up till 6@d, then perhaps South did a little too much|pg||
nt|twcho: declarer will go up with the ace|pg||
nt|twcho: but he has to choose from finessing in @c or establishing the 4th @H|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
nt|kareno: And all he needs are eight :)|pg||
pc|s6|nt|idc: but perhaps we should put it down to good E-W sac causing tough problem|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  As was suspected, Brasil got to 6@h on  board 10.|pg||
pc|s5|nt|athene: now overruff, diamond shift kills the dummy entry|pg||
nt|gracelin: now he need to guess DQ for his slam.  Declarer may try Heart 3-3 first,|pg||
nt|pelu: did he realy need to play @SJ?|pg||
nt|famus: so he has to play on the red suit squeeze but i think must surrender a @S NOW|pg||
nt|gracelin: I say no, since he as so many reentries to dummy|pg||
nt|twcho: :(|pg||
pc|d7|nt|athene: so only 8|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|twcho: nice smooth duck by south in the 1st trick|pg||
nt|twcho: now the contract is doomed|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: Nigel is a classy young player with a great future'|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|nt|famus: to keep trump control and check out @hs|pg||
nt|pelu: take @S10 and play @DJ - he has a ruffing finess later in @c|pg||
nt|gracelin: he is to eatablish his club trick first|pg||
nt|pelu: my bet: he will make :)|pg||
pc|hK|nt|brolucius: The bidding is not as we see it, obviously. Our VG operator is valiantly trying to recover from the crash (which is not fault of his). |pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|cA|nt|gracelin: H to dummy, run CQ, covered, ruff|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c9|nt|gracelin: if south overruff and play Heart, dummy wns, cash CJ, and ruff Heart back, the last trump will double squeeze NS|pg||
nt|fokal: true|pg||
nt|gracelin: and south cannot discard H here.  Best for im is to discard a D.|pg||
nt|gracelin: hm|pg||
nt|idc: I would ignore the 11 IMPs credited to Brasil on Bd 11|pg||
nt|twcho: Looking at his age, a mere 19 years old teenager, amazing|pg||
pc|cK|nt|gracelin: Madala did just that.|pg||
nt|fokal: E can't afford to play a trump now|pg||
nt|pelu: kibs offered my free cofeee if making - I look forward - he will make!|pg||
nt|fokal: since he doesn't know what to discard from dummy|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: sorry Nabil I meant|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|fokal: double squeeze still working if s ruff|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: preparing diamond 2|pg||
nt|gracelin: now if south overruff the same double squeeze works.  |pg||
nt|fokal: if S discard a @d : @h ruff, @d to the K @h ruff|pg||
nt|fokal: 12 tricks|pg||
nt|gracelin: yes.  Great hand|pg||
nt|fokal: indeed|pg||
nt|pelu: if S discard @d2 - then decl can take !KL ruff a @H and lst trick to @s9|pg||
nt|pelu: @dK|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg||
nt|famus: By now SHI like any world class declarer knows the hand|pg||
nt|fluffy: tries to break the squeeze|pg||
pc|s9|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|cT|pg||
pc|h4|mc|9|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4S93HKJDAQJ983CQ83,SKT4HQ9532D75CK95,SQ762HAT874D64CA6,SAJ85H6DKT2CJT742|sv|o|nt|rv: more time and more rounds passes by, lesser likelihood of it changing:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|an|normally 5|nt|rv: we may have to wait for next Bowl in Indonesia:)|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|psridhar: 1@d as normally 5 is Polish is it not? in Std american do many play that version?|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: many play 2+@cs and 4+@ds, not sure if folks play 5+@ds |pg||
pc|c4|nt|petergill: In a recent Spingold match in Toronto, USA1 beat Sartaj Hans and Tony Nunn 144 - 92, so Australia hopes for revenge here|pg||
nt|psridhar: that 2N shd be 'bid 3N or correct to 3@d " -veryrarely 2N is right as final spot..|pg||
nt|petergill: NS Convention Card http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%201/fleisher-kamil.pdf|pg||
nt|rv: yes, good point|pg||
nt|petergill: 1@D 5+ cards or 4@D unbal|pg||
nt|psridhar: here 2N surely doesnt say 'you cant make 2D i can make 2N' .... question is can 2N come without the safety of 3@d?|pg||
nt|petergill: BB Running Scores http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|rv: Weinstein went down in 4@s on previous board where Hans-Nunn played in 3n instead|pg||
nt|petergill: Venice Cup http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=882|pg||
nt|petergill: Seniors http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=883|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|d4|nt|rv: I am not a big fan of playing puppet stayman or finding out 5M even if system allows 1n opening with 5M|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg||
nt|rv: I much prefer auction employed by Hans-Nunn here|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4S93HKJDAQJ983CQ83,SKT4HQ9532D75CK95,SQ762HAT874D64CA6,SAJ85H6DKT2CJT742|sv|o|nt|boedhy:  I meant North |pg||
nt|famus: wd China|pg||
nt|pelu: so S has to discard a @h, but then again @D to K, @H-ruff and S can be endplayed on @s9|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hey my half hearted prediction came true|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: actually this was the bidding :)|pg||
nt|idc: Auction entered is 4 passes and I doubt that really happened, just a typing glitch i expect|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: south doubles 1@S and then north bids 1nt, i suppose|pg||
nt|gracelin: I have predicted Shi will make this slam.  Glad he didn't let me down.|pg||
mb|1D|nt|kiwibridge: back to the double figure swings|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  so far NS have 12 plus scores - they will be happy|pg||
nt|gracelin: at this Vul. 2D shows 4S and 5+ minor with 5-11 pts|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2c was 18-19 , madala passed|pg||
nt|brolucius: Oh, 2@C shows 18-19 balanced for them. The other Italian pairs use 2@D for that.|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|nt|idc: Yes, Bd 11 still being played in other room, in 3NT by East (USA)|pg||
mb|2D|nt|barnets: quel systeme !|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: this upgrade may get them to the good slam, 2@S followed by 4@C splinter|pg||
nt|twcho: I still can't understand why declarer take the trump finesse|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: some might be tempted to double this with north but he does not have that great a hand|pg||
nt|athene: you either need a shortage so you can get some ruffs|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  yes they will be pretty confident about there list|pg||
nt|boedhy:  only board 9 is tricky|pg||
nt|boedhy:  It was bid and made at most tables|pg||
nt|athene: or you need such good trumps you just make them by force|pg||
nt|kareno: Nanev very close to a second double.  |pg||
nt|brolucius: I didn't know you were bi-lingual.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Because he was tricked by a 19 year old?|pg||
pc|d5|nt|boedhy:  solid 3nt again|pg||
nt|brolucius: The convention that 2@C on a passed hand should show a sound raise in partner's major was banned for years by the English Bridge Union.  They thought it allowed players to psyche ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: in 3rd seat....|pg||
nt|kit: some might open the West hand 1NT and get to 3NT.  But they then might get a spade lead!|pg||
nt|athene: he really has not got that much defence|pg||
nt|kareno: In that case, north might sit.|pg||
nt|andyv:  for those who want to see the open room on livestream: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
pc|d4|nt|kit: This lead will not test declarer.  A heart lead might have.|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@C is known as the Drury convention.|pg||
nt|santyclz: And when 2@C shows 3 card support and 2@d is used for 4 card support it's 2-way Drury.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer has the chance to ditch a diamond on the 4th club, so long as the defenders do not set up a diamond early.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Taking a trump finesse might allow a damaging diamond switch.|pg||
nt|brolucius: That is no doubt what he is thinking about.|pg||
nt|idc: The 3@d showed 18-19 balanced & heart suport|pg||
pc|dT|nt|rensph:  only worry of declarer here is to avoid losing 2 spades|pg||
nt|gracelin: with the knowledge of south's 4-cad spade, declarer can take deep finesse there to get 4S, 1H, 2C and 2D.|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
pc|dA|nt|vugraphznt: 5@h= 2 aces no @sQ|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i see it is 14-16, so not an upgrade, and to me worth 4@D over 4@C since diamonds good for many discards|pg||
pc|d7|nt|kit: Weinstein worried about a club ruff, so may play two top spades|pg||
nt|pelu: 37 IMP for China on 3 slams !|pg||
nt|gracelin: as there are only 2 entries to dummy, he could cash SA first to see what's north singleton, when the S7 shown, he know to double hook S10 and SQ|pg||
nt|fokal: he can evan afford to cash the @s As|pg||
nt|famus: this shud b a swing back to Italy if @s dont go to deep fin|pg||
nt|fokal: *even|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  E-w appear to have 4 losers and stopped just in time.|pg||
pc|d6|nt|fluffy: in 4@s, 4 players made, 10 players went down|pg||
nt|fluffy: making 3NT is for sure a supperb score|pg||
nt|gracelin: the Italian declarer must be among the 4 that make|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer lacks the entries for finesse south for Q107x, so he must hope north hold one of the Q, 10, or 7.  So cas SA and take the double hook|pg||
nt|fluffy: declarer can fleely cash @sA now right?|pg||
nt|famus: has to beware of entries to play @s twice- but also needs to check the hand---Declarer has his work cut out for him|pg||
nt|lechcold: po kierowym ataku konieczny by³by impas i damy i ósemki pik|pg||
nt|lechcold: dziewi¹tki:)|pg||
nt|kamyk: brak dojæ na takie manewry - trzeba by zmarnowaæ lewê treflow¹|pg||
nt|lechcold: tak|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|ady: looks 1 down|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|brolucius: If he plays trumps from the top and they break 3-2, he can set up the clubs, leeaving the master @SQ out. |pg||
nt|andyv:  and for current standings: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|idc: Fortunately for Brasil, @dK offside otherwise 4@h makeable|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ady: 2 imps to Italy|pg||
pc|s2|nt|brolucius: You can see how hopeless it would have been for North to 'cover an honour with an honour'. |pg||
nt|santyclz: The bad news is the trump break.  The good news is that s didn't request a @d through.|pg||
nt|kamyk: pechowe rozdanie - N mia³ prawo liczyc na dubla karo u partnera|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: this might be a fast board|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|kareno: Diamond needed|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|gracelin: yes, nicely done, now two entries to dummy for the double finesse.|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|h4|nt|kit: Now diamond shift and he is down.|pg||
nt|kit: Problem was he couldn't go up ace of hearts due to no entry to the club.|pg||
nt|brolucius: South may hope that North started with @CKQJ.|pg||
pc|h6|nt|kit: If North had that in clubs, North would have cashed another club at least|pg||
nt|antoniz: dlatego wist karo jest niedobry,moim zdaniem|pg||
pc|hK|nt|brolucius: Yes, that's a good inference - one that South has missed.|pg||
nt|kit: But South failed to work it out, and a lost opportunity goes by|pg||
nt|lechcold: w kolor partnera na NT powinno siê chyba naturalnie wistowaæ, nie s¹dzicie?|pg||
nt|antoniz: tak wistyjemy |pg||
nt|kamyk: w niepoparty - oczywicie, to ju¿ chyba standard|pg||
nt|lechcold: i to nie dlatego, ¿e singiel by³ akurat dwójk¹:)|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|kareno: They are picking declarer clean.|pg||
nt|famus: this was a wrong move by Madala--now dec home|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h3|nt|barnets: this will be a confidence building result for the young USA team- who have played well|pg||
pc|hA|nt|rensph:  11 tricks now, as at the other table|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o31|st||md|1ST9632H72DKT86C63,SA754H65DQ92CQ754,SKHAKQT83D75CAK82,SQJ8HJ94DAJ43CJT9|sv|n|nt|petergill: Australia has had a tough draw so far, and has many of the bottom teams still to play|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|rv: Oz is my tip for dark horse qualifier for QFs|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|nt|famus: \|pg||
nt|petergill: 2nd chance for NS to bid to 4@H|pg||
nt|rv: may get 3rd chance as well|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: won't get since Hans is passed hand and hs doubled|pg||
pc|h4|nt|psridhar: i think 3@h instead of 2@H wd hv been what the doc ordered -near 9 winner hand|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|nt|petergill: I think most experts would reopen as West - opposite a passed hand, East can have some very good hands. Sometimes 1HX will yield 800|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|h7|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|nt|rv: I like 3@h by North as suggested by PS on West's double|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c31|st||md|1ST9632H72DKT86C63,SA754H65DQ92CQ754,SKHAKQT83D75CAK82,SQJ8HJ94DAJ43CJT9|sv|n|nt|vugraphznt: north got angry|pg||
nt|fabsayc: time limit is 2 hours and 15 minutes?|pg||
nt|idc: 4@h needs a little luck in cross-ruffing mind you, so npot just on @d finesse|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: North was right to blame his partner, wrong to get angry...|pg||
nt|famus: yes but had already showed his 4@s:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  this hurts...|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2hours 20 minutes|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: have to be finished in 12 minutes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: finished or started?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: finished|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  No problem with @hs 2-2.|pg||
mb|1H|nt|rensph:  EW likely to end up in 4@S here|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@c = @d-fit and 7+hcp|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznt: 2nt=4+@ss invitational+|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: Is he online?  I'll email him perhaps.|pg||
mb|d|nt|lechcold: nisko skoczy³...4@Dx mog³oby zakoñczyæ licytacjê...i le siê skoñczyæ dla naszych|pg||
nt|twcho: north is given another chance now|pg||
nt|twcho: can NS bid to the making 4@h?|pg||
mb|r|nt|lechcold: ojojoj|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2nt is no doubt a 4 card spade raise, alternative was some flower bid in hearts|pg||
mb|2D|nt|twcho: redouble is a better bid than a mere 2@h bid in OR|pg||
mb|d!|nt|twcho: not sure about the meaning of double|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: I could not see explanation, sorry|pg||
mb|p|nt|kamyk: a zacz¹³em pisaæ, ¿e kolejne p³askie rozdanie:(|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Raising your partner!  Is that legal?|pg||
mb|4H|nt|pelu: @H-lead against 4@S, then @D to K, @S to A @hQ to K and ruff, @CA and @C .. to K @hJ disc @C-loser, and so on = 10 tricks|pg||
nt|jaapfr: heee  24-44 China (lucky or deserved:)?|pg||
nt|gracelin: EW can make 3H, so 2S -1 or -2 is no big deal|pg||
nt|idc: Looking at the E-W heart intermediates on last hand, you might just hope for 2-2 trump split rather than a partial cross-ruff|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|twcho: sure, not your fault. :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fluffy: the lead guesses diamonds for declarer, and now defeating 2@s will require a diamond ruff|pg||
nt|twcho: wow, they bid it|pg||
pc|h4|nt|boedhy:  well stopped|pg||
nt|kareno: Clubs behave but not much else.  Good lead - actually Bridge World has an article this month about the benefits of major suit leads against notrumps - and their general success.|pg||
nt|athene: versace wondering whether to start clubs with small towards the ten i suppose|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: great|pg||
nt|twcho: no matter what the double means, it must show some useful value. :)|pg||
pc|h2|nt|brolucius: This is the last board of the session. I would like to thank Dirk, our splendid VG operator. Excellent session and many thanks!|pg||
pc|h6|nt|boedhy:  4nt quantitative|pg||
nt|rhelle:  yes, unless you're in 6NT and you get the wrong lead|pg||
nt|rhelle:  could be 12 tricks played from East|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the spectators all know how to make six, declarer does not|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if he carries on with this line he is going down|pg||
pc|cA|nt|twcho: great bid by Edgtton|pg||
pc|c9|nt|rensph:  3@C puppet stayman here, little to the play in 4@S> Declarer will draw trumps and then requires the @HK to be onside|pg||
pc|c3|nt|kiwibridge: 1 @C ruff and the 1DA onside|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|lechcold: Grzegorz nie powinien tak siê emocjonowaæ swoimi walorami w czerwonych kolorach|pg||
pc|cK|nt|rensph:  he might be able to play for a throw-in|pg||
nt|kamyk: w sierpniu 80 Rosiewicz piewa³: "Bulgarija,Bulgarija, u Polijaka awarija"|pg||
nt|brolucius: One down will be fine, against a making 2@H. Madala was unlucky to find only two trumps in the dummy. His bid was fine.|pg||
pc|cT|nt|brolucius: Also, many thanks to Kit and Joe, my fellow commentators. We were awarded a fair bunch of boards - neither excellent, nor hopelessly boring - somewhere in between.|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pg||
nt|twcho: and good effort by Gosney too|pg||
pc|c2|nt|rensph:  should the throw-in fail (If S holds the 3rd spade) he can still finesse the hearts himself|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h7|nt|kareno: This is a hand I would rather leave to partner to declare always - too many choices.  I agree that a club to the ten is tempting.  The diamonds have opened a path for the defense.|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|sT|nt|andyv:  yes, someday you will have to tell me about it|pg||
nt|twcho: this will be a serious blow for USA1|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|nt|twcho: the balancing double is absolutely normal by west|pg||
nt|twcho: but north had bid it much better than his counterpart in OR|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: there is so otfen when it is wrong too|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o32|st||md|2SAT864HJ842D7CA76,SJ52H73DKQT84CK54,SKQ3HT6DJ96532C83,S97HAKQ95DACQJT92|sv|e|nt|bebechira:  last board |pg||
nt|rv: I suspect this would be another pick-up for Oz|pg||
nt|petergill: N probably thought that the passed hand Dbl might well be single or void in @h, so East having J9xx(x) in @H was enhanced, hence only 2@H. Rdbl also possible|pg||
nt|psridhar: on last few deals a couple of thin games missed by NS, they may be feeling the butterfly in the stomach now as it draws to a close?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|petergill: other table so far on Bd 31 1@H P P Dbl Rdbl by Gosney 2@D ....|pg||
nt|rv: Hans-Nunn have been nearly flawless here except for a minor blip of not cashing @DK before playing second @h on 4@h double|pg||
mb|3S|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|psridhar: another ' cash toppies and go plus' situation for defense|pg||
pc|sA|nt|petergill: If no spade lead, East will try @CJ to the king after taking @DA|pg||
nt|petergill: good lead|pg||
nt|rv: no quick entry to dummy even if Kamil leads a stiff @d|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg||
nt|rv: good lead nonetheless|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h5|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
nt|psridhar: Notice that 3@s on 3 card support created a problem for Nunn....|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hA|nt|rv: good high quality match befetting occasion, Hans-Nunn have been the best pair on view in this match which is saying a lot with Levin-Weinstein playing on other table|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg||
nt|petergill: Australia so far is averaging over 15 VPs against teams in the top 8, and averaging only 12 VPs against teams outside the top 8 |pg||
nt|rv: thanks to our excellent vugraph operator and my wonderful co-commentators P.Sridhar and Peter Gill|pg||
nt|psridhar: thx RV for your commentary |pg||
mc|7|nt|rv: thanks to all specs for patiently listening to us with insightful comments|pg||
nt|rv: bye all, see you soon|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Thx all bye for now!|pg||
nt|petergill: East had to try for his contract, hence -300|pg||
nt|rv: thc Paul |pg||
nt|rv: thx Paul for great job|pg||
nt|petergill: Aus lead up to 26 imps now|pg||
pg||
qx|c32|st||md|2SAT864HJ842D7CA76,SJ52H73DKQT84CK54,SKQ3HT6DJ96532C83,S97HAKQ95DACQJT92|sv|e|nt|rensph:  ducking that spade looked a little odd|pg||
nt|pelu: as so often - many partscore swings for Italy|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: no trudno..teraz ³adny szlemiczek|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i think an alert kibitzer is right, was going down if diamond queen covered|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: last board of this match|pg||
nt|barnets: good but normal result for NS here|pg||
nt|ady: last hand of the session thx all  thx specs|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznt: next match starts in 55 minutes from now|pg||
mb|1H|nt|boedhy:  throwing imps like candy..|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Last board, we start again at 13.45|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: that is in 1 hour|pg||
nt|rhelle:  this is tricky|pg||
nt|boedhy:  yes do you know there agreements|pg||
nt|rhelle:  they play dstructive preempts this vul(doesn't everybody?)|pg||
nt|boedhy:  what is the range|pg||
nt|rhelle:  but the temptation to bid 6@c must be strong|pg||
nt|athene: 2nt overcall perhaps|pg||
nt|athene: would be interesting to see how lauria-versace handle such interference|pg||
nt|gracelin: looks like a normal 4H hand on this last deal of the set.|pg||
nt|barnets: east overcalled one heart in open|pg||
nt|brolucius: East has preferred a double to 1@H (the modern choice) and may escape a penalty.|pg||
nt|ady: great result for USA here in OR|pg||
nt|brolucius: Of course they opened 1@D at the other table.|pg||
mb|1S|nt|rhelle:  getting to 6@d now is too hard, I think|pg||
nt|rensph:  Even if spades break 4-1 taking the ace and returning a spade works equally well|pg||
nt|antoniz: bardzo trudny po otwarcie przeciwnika|pg||
nt|fabsayc: about the time they finish in open room :)|pg||
mb|d|nt|kareno: So many thanks to Bob Drijver our excellent Operator.  To the specs for their wit and wisdom.  To Bill Frisby for his contributions and, of course, to WBF for allowing us to watch ...|pg||
nt|kareno: their marvelous production of the world championships.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Opened room started 10 minutes later than this room|pg||
nt|fabsayc: they are bidding 15 there|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: because the match is on VuGraph|pg||
mb|2S|nt|vugraphznt: bocchi pointing out 3H makes|pg||
nt|idc: Last board at this table (the Open room have 4 more though) so time for thanks:|pg||
mb|4C|nt|rhelle:  4@d may be an artificial slam try in @c|pg||
nt|boedhy:  will bid 5@c now expecting @h points|pg||
nt|athene: traditionally, this double shows a desire to penalize opps, but my guess is EW just use it to show some values|pg||
nt|barnets: I prefer the unfortunate 1@H bid|pg||
nt|twcho: last board for this round|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: and a memorable victory for Australia|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: We will be back at 13.45 local time|pg||
nt|petergill: West is thinking about whether to convert to 4@H|pg||
nt|twcho: hi Peter, a good win for your country|pg||
nt|petergill: If W does bid 4@H, then @SA lead works well, but might not be South's choice after this auction. The 3@S raise at the other table worked well, by guiding S to @SA lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: 1@D will be a transfer bid.|pg||
mb|4D!|nt|brolucius: The next session starts in around 1 hours and 10 minutes. It will be the last session of the day.|pg||
nt|kit: This time it is right to play the 5-3 major-suit fit|pg||
nt|athene: maybe even promising spades|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Last board for the day, back tomorrow at 10.30 Paris time|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: here at the playing site in Veldhoven|pg||
nt|fabsayc: thanks to our excellent operator Jan Nielsen|pg||
nt|idc: to my fellow commentator Joe and to our Operator Paul|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  still liking his hand|pg||
nt|jaapfr: despite this loss of Italy they still do lead the Round Robin pack after round 5|pg||
nt|idc: to the WBF for allowing us to broadcast this event|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Martel doesn't particularly mind a @s contract by e-w.|pg||
nt|idc: and as always to Roland and BBO, without whose work none of this amazing stuff would happen|pg||
mb|4H|nt|rensph:  in this layout it all mattered very little, had north held the @HK it would've been a very effective @SQ|pg||
nt|famus: i rate them favourite to win|pg||
nt|gracelin: some care is needed here.  But I am confident Shi will also bring this home.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: LIAN already left the table|pg||
nt|jaapfr: a well educated quess Famus±'|pg||
nt|gracelin: the next match will start in 40 minutes from now.  Tks all for watching and hope you have enjoyed some great hands.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: ±'|pg||
nt|gracelin: Will also like to thank Felipe, our most capable operator who explained many bidding sequences to us.|pg||
nt|pelu: a way to play is @cA - @H to Q, @hA and then 4x@D discard @s, then @C AND MAKING 11|pg||
nt|jaapfr: looks tough for E )DD very easy'|pg||
nt|jaapfr: but he is afraid for @H loss @C@C and @SA for down 1|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer want to cash HA first as a safety play(he could afford t lose one trump), but here the threat for club overruff made that play not totally safe.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: and very afraid for ducking this IF S 6 card @C|pg||
nt|famus: playing @hA is sure wau to -1|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 7 card|pg||
nt|famus: 6 cards he has so needs to duck|pg||
nt|gracelin: with a 7-card club suit at this Vul. south may have bid more.  so duck the first club then take trump finesse maybe a good way.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i hope he does not go for the line @CA @HA x@S|pg||
nt|lechcold: dojd¹|pg||
nt|lechcold: chyba...|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: and to the spectators for some alert analysis|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and to the commentator for an excellent job |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: do you think 3@d is forcing or not here?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: W seems to be in doubt|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  now pass finally|pg||
nt|rhelle:  good sequence - 5@c is again 50% at best|pg||
nt|boedhy:  slam again 50% or so|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well the 6 card trump support is hardly clear|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  no problems in the play|pg||
nt|rhelle:  North: you guys have a bit of a @h fit|pg||
nt|kareno: Spectators, you'd better reserve your seats for the entire tournament - there is much wonderful bridge coming up!!|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: W decides that 3@d was non forcing and passed|pg||
nt|petergill: At this vulnerability, I'm a big fan of Fleischer's decision to treat KQx as four spades |pg||
nt|petergill: Fleisher I mean|pg||
nt|twcho: if non-@s lead, declarer will go down at most one|pg||
nt|petergill: @SA lead ---> 300 when declarer has to try for 3-3 trumps to try to make his contract, but I think a @D lead might be more likely|pg||
pc|d7|nt|lechcold: :(|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i wonder if he has A10x in spades if things would have been different|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Li just left the room -- and now Liu is on his own -- will he manage that?|pg||
nt|ehsana: .....|pg||
nt|fabsayc: meanwhile 5@D in open room going down undoubled|pg||
nt|brolucius: Bocchi now has a decision to make. Pass, 2NT, 3@D? He has chosen 2NT.|pg||
nt|ady: request for a link to running scores please|pg||
nt|barnets: 2@SX would not have been much fun|pg||
nt|psyck:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|petergill: If @D lead to ace, then on @CJ at Trick 2, S must rise ace OR underlead @SA when @D is ruffed|pg||
pc|d8|nt|twcho: now declarer is safe from being punched|pg||
pc|d6|nt|santyclz2:  Although the dummy's @c holding looks ominous.|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|rensph:  3N is made on a heart lead and continuation here, but if defenders set up a diamond trick early on declarer will still have to find the @SQ|pg||
nt|rensph:  I'm also informed that lauria made 4@S on this hand|pg||
nt|rensph:  3NT, sorry|pg||
nt|jacksond: if plays donde for spade queen he makes quite easily|pg||
nt|rensph:  sorry, 3N making with clubs 3-3|pg||
pc|hK|nt|brolucius: North realised that his partner must have had some purpose in bidding 2@C checkback. When it turned out that he was not looking for four hearts, he knew that he must have been ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: looking for a 5-3 spade fit.|pg||
nt|lechcold: 5@C Krzysztof potraktowa³ jako normalny cue-bid|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h3|nt|boedhy:  and offcourse this one is down on @s lead|pg||
nt|rhelle:  thinking about it, 6@c is down on a @s lead|pg||
nt|kit: 10 easy tricks with spades splitting, but only 8 in notrump|pg||
nt|brolucius: if you want to listen to Voice Commentary, you should go directly to website: http://www.bridgebase.com/|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|famus: yes--too tired--as pointed out by informed kibtz-- taking @H  A wud need to squeeze|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|vugraphznt: Bye for now|pg||
nt|kareno: So that's it and Italy will get most or all of the VPs for this match.  Well done!!|pg||
nt|rensph:  lets see how declarer handles 4@S here though|pg||
nt|gracelin: He play Hear to break 2-2 or a singleton honor drops.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: pity|pg||
nt|gracelin: Italy recovered 19 mps in last 2 boards for a tied match.  Bye all|pg||
nt|famus: so a well deserved 1 imp:) thnks all|pg||
nt|jaapfr: still China wins    wddddddddd±'|pg||
nt|gracelin: indeed.  They tied with both Sweden and Italy today|pg||
nt|jaapfr: ±' ±'|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i try to smile but fail............±)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: ty everybody|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: see you soon|pg||
nt|lechcold: przyda³oby siê 4N jako cue-ogólny|pg||
nt|petergill: If @CJ to king at Trick 2, then on @DK N will play @D9 as suit pref for @SA underlead|pg||
pc|h2|nt|antoniz: po kontrze w 3tr,chyba lepsze 4tr|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: jutrzejsze przekazy zaczynaja sie o 10.30|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: do zobaczenia|pg||
nt|antoniz: dziêki i do us³yszenia:)|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ady: this likely to make|pg||
nt|brolucius: (My spelling is better than my typing.)|pg||
nt|barnets: should the two teams meet later on in the KO stages|pg||
nt|barnets: a good match and especially fine performance by the young USA team|pg||
nt|brolucius: East doubled 1@C, so not certain that declarer will score four diamonds.|pg||
nt|brolucius: East will not hold a singleton diamond for his double, so declarer will start with the @DK.|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|idc: I should also thank the players - been a lot of good bridge to watch|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ady: especially getting diamonds right|pg||
nt|barnets: this will still be a small swing to USA team|pg||
nt|brolucius: With -500 on there partners' card, it was very much the right thing to do (as it happens) to bid game.|pg||
nt|brolucius: ..their..|pg||
nt|barnets: who will win this match and have a carry forward of some kind|pg||
nt|ady: may make even with 3 diamonds    as long as playing 1st club from north|pg||
pc|h4|nt|boedhy:  well good start for the Netherlands...and with all these difficult and lively boards fun to watch|pg||
nt|boedhy:  bye bye|pg||
nt|rhelle:  ok, thx all - see you in an hour|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Bye|pg||
pc|s2|pc|d2|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|petergill: Now S must rise on @CJ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|nt|ady: I think will get diamond right   as does not want west on lead|pg||
nt|brolucius: East could easily be 4-4-4-1 for his initial take-out double.|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|sK|nt|brolucius: When you Join a table that has voice commentary (there will always be two during the world championships), you can switch on each of the three commentators.|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|s4|nt|barnets: I am not sure of the exact carryovers but it usually depends on which team finishes higher in the round robin|pg||
nt|brolucius: West false-carded the @DQ, to mislead declarer as to the position of the @DJ.|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|jaapfr: standings after this round : Neth 161 Italy 155 Israel 149 and usa2 137|pg||
nt|idc: including that last play - East realizes he can afford 2 trump losers but only if he starts on side suit immediately|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: thanks Karen great operating, thanks Henry and Tommy and all spectators for great feedback|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg||
nt|brolucius: But no doubt he was helped by East's switch to the @D7. |pg||
nt|barnets: tks all specs|pg||
nt|brolucius: Thanks for watching!|pg||
nt|ady: kept the loss to 1 imp|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  19-11|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  16-19 =  19-11|pg||
nt|ady: enterprising match|pg||
nt|ady: thx all   bye|pg||
nt|twcho: good defense by Edgtton|pg||
mc|9|nt|twcho: tks everyone and bye now|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: great win Australia|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Ok bye all, we will be back in an hour|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: next round in an hour|pg||
nt|petergill: A good win by the Aussies, aged 19 (Nabil Edgtton), about 26 or 27 (Paul Gosney) 33 (Nunn) and near 40 Sartaj Hans|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: thx all|pg||
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