vg|A - Bermuda Bowl 2011,Round 14_21,I,17,32,USA 1,0,Italy,0|
rs|4SE+2,4SE+1,2SE+2,3CS=,2HS+1,6DN-1,2HN+3,4HN+1,4HE=,5HE-1,2HN=,3HS=,2SN=,2NE=,3DS+1,3CW-1,3CN-1,3CN-1,2HS-2,2HS-2,4HW-1,5HWx-2,1NN=,1NN=,4SN=,3NS-3,5SS=,4SS+1,4HE=,4HW=,3CE-2,2HN+1|
pn|WEINSTEIN,DUBOIN,LEVIN,SEMENTA,MADALA,STANSBY,BOCCHI,MARTEL|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3SAHK9432DJ754C763,SJ94HQ75DAQ86CJT5,SQ83HJT8DT3CQ9842,SKT7652HA6DK92CAK|sv|o|nt|djneill:  Levin-Weinstein card: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%201/levin-weinstein.pdf|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|djneill:  Duboin-Sementa card: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/duboin-sementa.pdf|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|100dog: ciao a tutti|pg||
pc|h2|nt|remo: ciao a tutti. stessa licita della chiusa. Di là hanno attaccato di 3 di @C|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|nemeo: ciao|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3SAHK9432DJ754C763,SJ94HQ75DAQ86CJT5,SQ83HJT8DT3CQ9842,SKT7652HA6DK92CAK|sv|o|nt|athene: hi good afternoon everyone|pg||
nt|athene: italy have been very impressive so far|pg||
nt|athene: and lauria-versace aren't exactly anyone's idea of a third pair :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: witamy z powrotem|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hi all and welcome to this match from Veldhoven. Iceland vs. China|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Play will start in a minute -- Einarsson and Jorgensen are discussing their defense|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: against the chinese system|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hi Martin|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers!|pg||
nt|barnets:  morning all from florida|pg||
nt|brolucius: Italy v USA in the Bermuda Bowl has a good ring to it. These events are enhanced by the decades of history behind them.|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am watching the live video stream, but it is from the other table at the moment.|pg||
nt|ady: good afternoon all|pg||
nt|brolucius: Utaly picked up three big wins on the first day, but they had some harder fights yesterday.|pg||
nt|hlortz: we are back again it seems|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: witam ponownie|pg||
nt|hlortz: good evening David its 30 am inn seattle|pg||
nt|kit: hi everybody|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hi all, we start now|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznt: There we go|pg||
nt|ady: still leading?|pg||
mb|1S|nt|vugraphznt: welcome everybody|pg||
nt|gracelin: H all|pg||
nt|brolucius: China beat them by 1 IMP in a great match. (There was a very rare vice squeeze on the last board - worth looking up in the VG records).|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hello everyone|pg||
nt|hlortz: er 130 i mean\|pg||
nt|ady: e/w likely to play 3NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: part score in diamonds  looks best|pg||
nt|brolucius: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|brolucius: .. for the live video pictures|pg||
nt|ady: could Bocchi get over ambitious in hearts|pg||
nt|ady: good afternoon all|pg||
mb|2S|nt|brolucius: Bocchi's 1@C is natural. All 3 Italian pairs play 2-over 1, which means that a two-level response to one of a suit is game-forcing.|pg||
mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: welcome everyone|pg||
nt|hedyg: good afternoon :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: hello|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: przekaz wideo z pokoju otwartego: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live|pg||
nt|kit: looks like we are starting with a very flat 4@S hand -- I'm sure there will be more interesting deals coming.|pg||
mb|4S|nt|gracelin: Lian and Dhi is the natural pair in the Chinese team.  Bocchi also play natural with variable 1NT range|pg||
nt|gracelin: we sstart the match with a slam hand.  6S is cold and 7S on the D finesse which works.|pg||
nt|gracelin: Italy is now lying first comfortably with an average of 24 VP in the first 4 round.  China lies 13th at moment.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2 c is 54 11-15, qualsiasi rever senza 3|pg||
nt|hlortz: hello all|pg||
nt|ady: sorry good evening for you|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers!|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@D via a negative double is weaker than a direct 2@D on the previous round.|pg||
nt|antoniz: witam serdecznie:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: pokoj otwarty rozpoczyna gre z kilkuminutowym opoznieniem|pg||
nt|hlortz: they play strong club|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: there is a double dummy defense to beat 4@S|pg||
nt|ady: west considering   will likely raise in spades|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: hi Henry|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: 2d must be a relay and 2H probably shows 5D/4H|pg||
pc|c3|nt|lechcold: witam na meczu Polska-Bu³garia|pg||
nt|brolucius: Wooldridge bid 1NT (transfer to 2@C) intending to support spades on the next round. That is why transfers are so effective in many situations. They give you two bites at the ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: cherry.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: wooldridge explaining he is not 100% sure if 1nt shows clubs or could be a raise in @S|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sometimes they differ , depends on 1@C|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: but hurd explained as @C ,  madala just wants to know the insides|pg||
nt|ady: would double of 3@S be penalty from North  ?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: ins & outs|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: madala asking for the director|pg||
nt|brolucius: When 1@C is basically natural but maybe two or three cards, it is usually best for the defenders to treat it as natural in their subsequent bidding.|pg||
nt|barnets: it seems norths double relates to wests 1n bid|pg||
nt|warrens:  1N=transfer to @C's, but since N opened 1@C, this showed a strong 3-card raise.  Hurd's immediate 2@S over the X showed a minimum|pg||
nt|ady: not sure  what south is meant to do?|pg||
nt|barnets: if wests bid showed clubs perhaps norths x also showed clubs|pg||
nt|brolucius: That agreement prevents any misunderstandings, such as may have arisen here.|pg||
nt|barnets: hence x of 3@S would also be penalty|pg||
nt|barnets: by north|pg||
nt|ady: that would seem to be a reasonable choice|pg||
nt|brolucius: It's not immediately obvious why N/S should call the director. They are probably happy to be defending 3@S.|pg||
nt|barnets: 3 rounds of spades would seem to defeat 3@SX even with 3 club tricks for declarer|pg||
nt|hedyg: hoi Gerbrand :)|pg||
nt|ady: lost of wast paper in  south hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: Gerbrand will enter the names asap|pg||
nt|ady: tricky for south    good opening bid|pg||
nt|gulyas: hello all|pg||
nt|ady: defence could of course go wrong in 6 hearts or clubs|pg||
nt|jaapfr: GA all|pg||
nt|ady: Hi Daniel   Jaap|pg||
nt|jaapfr: hoi david daniel|pg||
nt|gulyas: Jaap, David:)|pg||
nt|hedyg:  Jaap :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: operator is ?|pg||
nt|gulyas: Hedy:)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: hoi Hedy|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hoi Jaap|pg||
nt|hedyg:  Gerbrand Hop|pg||
nt|jaapfr: aha great hoi Gerbrand:)|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|fluffy: the important factor here for south, is that perhaps on some meanings of 1NT he is on forcing now, and on others he isnt|pg||
nt|ady: with spades breaking well there will be no problem|pg||
nt|kit: Bocchi will have to cover, giving declarer the heart discard.|pg||
pc|c2|nt|brolucius: 2NT was slightly ambitious.|pg||
nt|brolucius: West had an obvious raise with that splendid heart suit.|pg||
nt|lechcold: to powa¿ny przeciwnik, który siê powa¿nie liczy w walce o awans do ósemki |pg||
nt|ady: not even necessary to do that       east unable to ruff any diamonds|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: actually they do not have a misunderstanding, wooldridge just giving all the info he can|pg||
nt|ady: this looks down 1 on the baad diamond split|pg||
nt|ady: will Bocchi try 4@H?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: even before madala asked anything about 2@S|pg||
nt|brolucius: A messy start to the match.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: good safe 5@H|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: South commenting it was to difficult, north you probably did well|pg||
nt|psyck:  NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/bocchi-madala.pdf|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: all in dutch|pg||
nt|ady: well done by south|pg||
nt|psyck:  EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%201/stansby-martel.pdf|pg||
nt|psyck:  Live Stream (open room): http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|kit: Not clear to me how he worked out to not cover.|pg||
nt|kit: Perhaps he decided his partner wouldn't be leading from Kxx on this auction.|pg||
pc|d9|nt|gracelin: the later round of bidding is not explained in their CC so we will have to take some guess.|pg||
nt|gracelin: 6S is more comfortable a contract than 6D.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Lets see if they find the "killing defence" here|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: apart from the club suit all looks well|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes and 5@D down on club leads so 3n the best spot|pg||
nt|psyck:  Results & Live Scores: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: at least a @C lead would have given Weinstein a mild scare|pg||
nt|psyck:  NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Australia/edgtton-gosney.pdf|pg||
nt|psyck:  EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%201/levin-weinstein.pdf|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: welcome Krishna|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: lets try again :)|pg||
pc|d5|nt|gracelin: since they are in GF tempo, mabe south will rebid is spade suit and get a raise on the way to 6S|pg||
nt|fabsayc: defense is easier now east has bid diamonds|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: they didnt|pg||
pc|dA|nt|lechcold: antykontra Mihova mo¿e spowodowaæ wist  treflowy |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: is it a winner now?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: if S ducks one @h?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and I guess thats not DD :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes that may work also|pg||
nt|ady: an extra diamond trick on that lead as well|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|kit: hi everybody|pg||
nt|brolucius: East tries to slip through a 9th trick in diamonds. |pg||
nt|brolucius: By leading the jack, pretending to finesse against the Q, he aims to catch South asleep. Not today!|pg||
nt|desinka: hello all|pg||
nt|desinka: welcome|pg||
nt|fluffy: perhaps NS weren't prepared to defend against this 1NT convention|pg||
nt|fluffy: looks like Bocchi though that double of 1NT asked partner not to make any forward moves, but south didn't understand it that way|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hard to understand that 5@D. His partner did not have enough to bid 2@D on the first round.|pg||
nt|lechcold: witam|pg||
pc|s9|nt|gracelin: so the 4NT might be Turbo, showing odd numbers of key-card, in the meantime cue in H.|pg||
nt|lechcold: Grzegorz hamowa³ jak móg³, ale Krzysztof mia³ za du¿¹ kartê....|pg||
nt|ady: a lot of bidding on this hand|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg||
nt|garden2005: witam po przerwie :)|pg||
nt|pawel90: czesc|pg||
nt|ady: request for link to latest standing please|pg||
pc|d4|nt|gracelin: 6D will go down if it's East hold that K10xx in trumps.  |pg||
pc|dQ|nt|fabsayc: but if east has one heart and two clubs you have to win first heart|pg||
nt|hlortz: just a hand for overtricks|pg||
pc|dT|nt|vugraphznt: and now focus is on Einarsson|pg||
nt|ady: life made very difficult for n/s|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|brolucius: Our valiant operator is trying to recover from the crash (which of course was not his fault at all).|pg||
pc|s4|nt|mathat: Q @c lead 3 r  @h|pg||
nt|ady: I feel this should have been 300 the other way|pg||
pc|s8|nt|gracelin: declarer may have a guess at the end whether West has 3 or 4 cards heart.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Einarsson is now shaking his head -- he now knows he did the wrong thing|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: but a @h now -|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not necissarily|pg||
pc|sT|nt|gulyas: S knew his @SKQ was worthless, and he had no ace, so maybe his hand is not worth much|pg||
nt|ady: I am told 6@H in OR   A@S lead|pg||
nt|gulyas: oh-oh|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: heart ruffed|pg||
pc|sK|nt|gracelin: I presume he will discard the losing club on 3-round of H.  But he smply takes the trump finesse.|pg||
nt|kit: Martel has to block the diamonds so he can take another spade finesse, so he will make only 11 tricks.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|11|nt|ady: 11 tricks on top|pg||
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qx|o18|st||md|4SJ43HQ8DJ8CQ97652,SQ975HJT632DK962C,S62HAK4DQT75CAJ84,SAKT8H975DA43CKT3|sv|n|nt|Walddk2:  http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011  for live video|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|remo: parziale sulle due linee|pg||
nt|100dog: doppio score |pg||
nt|tax456: bel doppio|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|100dog: non si vede la dichiarazione della chiusa|pg||
nt|100dog: qui non era facile per gli americani entrare|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
nt|tax456: 2 quadri flannery|pg||
nt|nemeo: sull'apertura 1SA Ovest ha trasferito le cuori, dopo 2@h passo passo contro di riapertura di Norberto e 3@c di Agustin|pg||
nt|cumino: Buon giorno|pg||
nt|cuan: buon giorno |pg||
nt|100dog: non era facile nemmeno così norby ha riaperto su 2@H con il doppio di picche|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|nt|100dog: non sò in quanti avrebbero riaperto in zona|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|c2|pg||
nt|nemeo: presumo contasse di dire 2SA se gli arrivava 2@s offrendo la scelta tra i minori|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|mc|10|pg||
qx|c18|st||md|4SJ43HQ8DJ8CQ97652,SQ975HJT632DK962C,S62HAK4DQT75CAJ84,SAKT8H975DA43CKT3|sv|n|nt|brolucius: 4@H would have gone down too.|pg||
nt|nickf: to start the match - you need to click on REDEAL down the bottom|pg||
nt|ady: may have endplayed north for the 12th|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: yeah went to fast for me to follow all cards probably was an endplay|pg||
mb|1N|nt|gracelin: The ended in an slightl inferior slam and the cards ae not forgiving|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: NS play strong club, UDCA|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: up to speed again|pg||
nt|ady: USA playing 3NT with n/s cards  OR|pg||
nt|brolucius: A pretty awful board for Italy, whatever was the cause of it.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: had to relog because open room was down|pg||
mb|2D!|an|!H|nt|brolucius: No percentage in North entering the bidding.|pg||
nt|brolucius: ... and North has then protected with a take-out double.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: bocchi looking sy west cards on board 1|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 4@h = @ss|pg||
nt|ady: 1@S?|pg||
nt|ady: good morning Vincent|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: 1@S denies spades. With 4 or 5 spades he would double.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 4@H and 5@C here equally most likely down|pg||
mb|2H!|nt|gracelin: trying to see how he could make the slam :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: EW play standard short club, 5-card majors, strong notrump|pg||
nt|gracelin: West will bud to 4S|pg||
nt|gracelin: bid|pg||
nt|brolucius: Many use a cue-bid to show a sound 3-card raise, 2NT shows a 4-card raise.|pg||
nt|barnets: NS in danger now|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg:  for results and running scores: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|ady: agressive auction|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: koñcowizna?|pg||
nt|juror1: witam z Veldhoven, nastroje s¹ raczej minorowe, ale duch walki nie zamiera, natomiast seniorzy a zw³aszcza kobiety bardzo bojowo i optymistycznie nastawione do walki|pg||
nt|lechcold: nie graj¹ negatem|pg||
nt|ady: 2@H some weak raise in spades I suspect|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: yes thats what i think they wrote down here to|pg||
mb|d|an| |nt|brolucius: East has bid 2@H|pg||
nt|gracelin: 5H will be very expensive at this Vul.|pg||
nt|barnets: 3@HX was 1100|pg||
nt|barnets: for e/w|pg||
nt|ady: Madala very agressive   is pass stronger in that position given the quality of the overcall?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Must be|pg||
nt|psyck:  Results: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 1nt was 13+ to 16|pg||
mb|3C|nt|rensph:  As most of you will have noticed these names do not match the countries playing - I'm sure operator will get to that in a second|pg||
nt|rensph:  seems we're back and good to go. :) Hello everyone.|pg||
nt|mathat: 3 down|pg||
nt|kit: Stansby could have bid 2@C stayman -- probably didn't want that doubled.|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: but often the opponents will not believe they are given a gift|pg||
nt|psyck:  Live video stream: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|psyck:  (you can mute the audio to hear voice commentary here)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Few would bid 1@H, vul against not, on those South cards. |pg||
nt|ady: will try club switch|pg||
nt|ady: 9 or queen?|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: ta¿ S nie ma negatu...raczej nie graj¹ transferem|pg||
nt|lechcold: wiêc Brenner nie móg³ od razu skakaæ na koñcówkê|pg||
mb|p|nt|idc: Welcome all - BBO has decided that specs getting it too easy with just voice commentary, so you have to suffer written commentary too :)|pg||
nt|ady: lose control here|pg||
nt|hedyg:  for the livestream from the site: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|jaapfr: down 2 i suppose|pg||
nt|ady: only 7 obvious tricks|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: I'm surprised Stansby selling out to 3@C with a void.  Seems right to compete with 3@D.|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|brolucius: When the opponents find a fit and then stop at the two level, the other side know that the points are divided and that they will likely have a fit somewhere.|pg||
nt|ady: and then again at 3 level|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hi Ian :)|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ady: dubion cannot know east hand   of 7-4  or would surely correct|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: West said 6-5 probably|pg||
nt|juror1: mo¿na obejrzeæ naszych w otwartym http://wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live|pg||
nt|warrens:  I'm surprised he didn't bid Stayman with that hand|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer needs to guess trump to make this, but I am afraid he will not.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: probably down one but can in fact pick up the spades|pg||
nt|hlortz: @h shift ought to get south off ay type of endplay|pg||
nt|hlortz: /any|pg||
pc|c2|nt|mathat: @c is 2-2|pg||
nt|barnets: So South survived a potential second disaster as a diamond lead would have produced 1100 should west have chanced a x of 3@H|pg||
pc|h6|nt|jaapfr: kibs tell me 5@C can be made but I believe it can not be made (always also @S loser)|pg||
nt|ady: think it might be right for Sementa to run when doubled|pg||
nt|lechcold: król pik móg³by daæ niez³y efekt:)|pg||
pc|cA|nt|gracelin: from the 5H bid and the double, it's likely that north has a singleton trump|pg||
nt|kit: It took a different lead to defeat this -- but E-W should be in 3@H|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|gracelin: how can he believe north bids 5H at unfav Vul. with this 5422 hand.|pg||
pc|hA|nt|santyclz: Hi folks.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer finesses in spades, seeking a discard for one of his diamond losers.|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h8|nt|jaapfr: yes DD 5@C can be made|pg||
nt|hedyg:  the OR is starting play now|pg||
nt|jaapfr: pull 1@C and ruff 4th @S|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 10 min later than we do, we have theathre here :)|pg||
nt|ady: 10@H best|pg||
nt|hlortz: or perhaps a @D ruff for north?|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|kit: The location of the king of spades means that South does well in 3@C, but the same location means that E-W won't make 3@H|pg||
nt|gracelin: but after all, north only bid 2H in first round.  So maybe declarer will figure it out.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: will have to finish this and re start to link with other table so after this hand ill close this|pg||
nt|gracelin: got it|pg||
nt|ady: not best  as J@D will set up the 9    and low diamond will in affent mean north ruffing a loser  and then trumps 2-2|pg||
pc|hK|nt|hlortz: nah thats setting up a @D i told him wrong lol|pg||
pc|h9|nt|jaapfr: -800 looming now|pg||
nt|psyck:  EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/duboin-sementa.pdf|pg||
nt|psyck:  NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Netherlands/vanprooijen-verhees.pdf|pg||
nt|jaapfr: sorry DD means Double Dummy seeing 52 cards whilst players SD Single Dummy seeing only 26 cards|pg||
nt|ady: seems that many are in 6 on hand 1   and many making|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: South, Sorry|pg||
pc|d8|nt|idc: We have Martel-Stansby playing 12-14 NT & 5-card majors, Camps/Villas-Boas 15-17 & 5-card majors|pg||
nt|ady: now 9@D 8th trick|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|rhelle:  hi all|pg||
nt|Walddk4: This room will be shut down shortly|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Our operator needs to reconnect to the other room|pg||
nt|gracelin: moment of truth. he would love to finesse the SJ but entry is not cnvenient|pg||
nt|gracelin: This is the first time Lian plays for China.  His partner Shi is a veteran and reach semi-final in the 2009 BB|pg||
mc|11|nt|bafieri: undo|pg||
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qx|o19|st||md|1SAT976HAKJ82DA96C,SK852H7643DK4CQT7,SHQ5DJ8753CAJ8542,SQJ43HT9DQT2CK963|sv|e|nt|100dog: è sempre un grosso rischio in zona contro prima ma indovinato ed ha ragione lui :)|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|100dog: il passo di levin è della serie "speriamo finisca presto"|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg||
nt|cuan: qui per sistema gli americani possono dirne solo 2 di cuori|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|nt|nemeo: attacco secondo il libro|pg||
pc|h8|pc|c7|pg||
nt|katar: buonasera:)|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|h5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|cA|nt|100dog: l'unica manche accettabile è 5@D ma non riesco a vedere come possa venire fuori|pg||
pc|c3|pc|d6|pc|cT|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|d5|pc|hT|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h7|mc|9|nt|100dog: pare che in chiusa i nostri abbiano trovato le @D..ma a livello 6 le giocano|pg||
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qx|c19|st||md|1SAT976HAKJ82DA96C,SK852H7643DK4CQT7,SHQ5DJ8753CAJ8542,SQJ43HT9DQT2CK963|sv|e|nt|nickf: what happens when you press Redeal ?|pg||
nt|nickf: close - then connect to the OPEN room|pg||
nt|gracelin: rehi everyone|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: not without having looked at my screen :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: however had south split the dummy shortening defense does not work|pg||
nt|fabsayc: declarer will need to take ruffing diamond finesse|pg||
nt|ady: slam time|pg||
nt|ady: hi David|pg||
nt|famus: ya this was a bad switch- shud b small swing to US2|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|idc: The standard of commentary you can expect has just risen, as we welcome Joe Shair|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Hi folks.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: thanks Karen|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Polska-USA 2 seniorzyù|pg||
mb|1N|nt|rhelle:  East will be tempted to pass this|pg||
nt|ady: 6@S a save|pg||
nt|barnets: a low diamond lead V 6@H|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: both sides play fairly natural systems 5 card majors 15-17nt|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: North may respond 4@S  to his partner's one-bid. No, he has preferred 1@S.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: we are up to speed now|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: had to claim the first 2 |pg||
nt|athene: 4@S is two down, assuming the defence attack clubs early enough|pg||
nt|barnets: works quite well|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hi Joe|pg||
nt|hedyg:  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/ for BBO-TV. Watch all  vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Open one browser window per table|pg||
mb|2C|nt|rhelle:  And now West has a problem. 2@s is non forcing, but he has a very nice hand|pg||
nt|athene: but nanev, with singleton spade facing a takeout double, might bid on|pg||
nt|barnets: 5@SX in other room|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Oh, the pressure...|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sorry, hard to see the claims|pg||
mb|p|nt|idc: The Brazilian Federation has player profiles on-line, look at: http://www.bridge.esp.br/player/joaopaulocampos.php|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|rhelle:  He doesn't know about the wasted @h values in his partner's hand, of course|pg||
nt|brolucius: On this sort of auction some play 2NT by the opener as weak-strong. That allows them to show a strong 3@C rebid (by bidding 3@C) or a shapely weaker one (via 2NT).|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: fearing his opponents have a huge fit and more shape than they do have|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this will limp home|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: do anyone here have the link for running scores|pg||
nt|ady: yes   6@H can be beaten  |pg||
nt|kit: I don't know the N-S structure here -- I imagine the follow-up will show a strong 5-5|pg||
mb|2H!|nt|fabsayc: at wbf.org|pg||
nt|barnets: 5@SX is also interesting|pg||
nt|barnets: def need to play a club|pg||
nt|ady: sorry   500 last hand   got the vulnerability wrong|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 6@C-1 OR|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sorry - misclick here -- claim wasnt the right buttom :(|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: botton :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: @cQ took first trick|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: then a small @s to the K|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: And E is now in |pg||
nt|barnets: to force dummy|pg||
nt|idc: and there is a link there to his partner's profile, thanks to Brazil for the info|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: bit weak of Gosney - Edgtton to pass this out|pg||
nt|famus: these US youngsters have improved tremendously--I remember Lall being there in Bejing Olympiad playing for US juniors--come a long way|pg||
mb|2S!|nt|kit: This is interesting.  East will lead a high heart and shift to a minor.  But does he shift to the suit where he has the king, or where he doesn't?  That is what declarer will have ...|pg||
nt|kit: to judge.|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: ok, this is interesting|pg||
nt|antoniz: witaj Grzegorz:)|pg||
nt|kit: Likely headed for 3NT -- the fate of that is not clear.|pg||
mb|3D!|nt|athene: when he bids 4nt you might think it is offering two places to play, in which case he should pass 5@C|pg||
nt|hlortz: could be 6 imps if both 2@h and 2s make|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: N/S are not playing a strong 1@C system. That is probably why North did not want to make a pre-emptive 4@S response - in case his partner was strong and they could make a slam.|pg||
nt|santyclz: W has no quick entry to allow a @s thru.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 2@S makes easily for me|pg||
mb|3H!|nt|rhelle:  the problem for East is communication. He can throw @cs on @h KQ, but how to get there?|pg||
nt|brolucius: When dummy has only one card in the suit led, the partner of the opening leader can give a suit preference card to suggest a switch.|pg||
nt|ady: spades never mentioned|pg||
nt|barnets: this will be another swing to USA|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 6@C-1 looks too many tricks made to me|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes this is a team of [relatively] young stars|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: Lian was in a tough situation to guess the trump layout under the bidding.  Italy really earned this swing.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2s was 5+ spades veery weak|pg||
nt|gracelin: Sementa led a trump in the other room against 4S, which is tougher for declarer.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: thought max 10 tricks in @C b1|pg||
nt|ady: trump lead best|pg||
nt|famus: @ds wud b the best lead|pg||
nt|hlortz: trump leads are best and so it was|pg||
nt|ady: good lead|pg||
nt|famus: gr8--Grue heard us--prblm for declarer |pg||
nt|ady: bad club split will beat this|pg||
nt|ady: I think down 2|pg||
nt|hlortz: thats my guess -2|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: not possible to see what they write down|pg||
mb|3S!|an|strong|nt|vugraphznt: 2 clubs 15+ any reverse without 3spades or nat|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  8 easy tricks - 2 0 4 2 and a likely @h.|pg||
nt|idc: Since the defensive entries (@dT & @hA) are split N-S, defence won't be able to get at club winners|pg||
nt|ady: semi psyche by north    no action from south   believed vulnerable opps|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Polska-Izrael jutro ponownie z przekazem wideo|pg||
nt|pawel90: czemu po treflu nie jest bez trzech?|pg||
nt|kit: It looks like the defense should be able to establish enough black-suit winners before declarer can set up the diamonds, but they will have to be careful.|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: sometimes when you have a scrambling bid like this you can use it to show a weak bid in the highest-ranking suit|pg||
nt|idc: Of course, declarer doesn't know heart layout, so this could still be tricky|pg||
mb|5D|nt|kit: Now club ruff, heart ruff, and eventual diamond finesse will make|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  North needs to take and shift to a @c - but not sure even that is enough|pg||
nt|gracelin: now a high spade, if 10 or J drops, he may ruff to hand to ruff the 3rd H.  If nothing drops, just pull the other trump|pg||
nt|kit: Nice choice to get to 5@D -- that will probably come home, although not clear.|pg||
nt|warrens:  I agree.  5 H's, 1@S, 1@C and 4 @D's (ruff one club in dummy, draw trump)|pg||
nt|kit: In principle declarer would have 3 diamond winneers in North, 1 ruff in South, 5 hearts, and two black aces, but club leads by defense could cause problems.|pg||
mb|6D|nt|athene: in other words 5@H over 4@S would be "good" and 4nt - whatever - 5@H is "bad"|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: I wonder what declarer would have done on a diamond shift|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  the @h2 may help - Lavinthal for @cs|pg||
nt|rhelle:  Of course, North also doesn't know that the 2@h opening was so weak in @h|pg||
nt|famus: bad everthing split i think-even trumps|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: Well, that call undid the good work of finding the diamond fit.|pg||
pc|hT|nt|vugraphznt: here we go again :)|pg||
nt|pawel90: o. teraz jest :)|pg||
nt|kit: Since declarer needs to ruff 1 club in dummy, it looks like his only hope is KQ doubleton of diamonds.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|nt|rhelle:  good switch|pg||
nt|boedhy:  hi Rob and all|pg||
nt|rhelle:  hello|pg||
nt|boedhy:  yes but too late I think|pg||
nt|rhelle:  no, just in time|pg||
nt|santyclz: N will think about what to ruff with on the 3rd @c, but it won't matter.|pg||
nt|brolucius: That might ddepend on whether he believed the SP signal that West had chosen to give.|pg||
nt|brolucius: On the 3NT board that we watched a moment ago, the bidding and result were the same at the other table. You can check such things by hitting the MOVIE button at the bottom.|pg||
nt|athene: but as he is a passed hand i am not sure there is any need to make that distinction|pg||
nt|ady: likely to go down   will have to play exactly right|pg||
nt|jaapfr: most wil be in 4@S here I suppose|pg||
nt|ady: finess the spade   and get J@C right|pg||
nt|ady: running scores link requested please|pg||
nt|fluffy: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|jaapfr: hoi fluff:)|pg||
nt|fluffy: Hey hey|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|rhelle:  East can only cross with a trump|pg||
nt|ady: east will need to let west win a spade to play a 2nd trump|pg||
nt|ady: should duck this|pg||
nt|famus: Lall gotta underlead his @s for Grue to play another @D|pg||
nt|ady: otherwise down 1|pg||
nt|kit: In the other room N-S stopped in 2@H, making bidding the slam somewhat anti-percentage|pg||
pc|d3|nt|fabsayc: now he does|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i guess he can just ruff and cash clubs then play another heart since li cant overruff or ruff anything|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: S asks W about their leads when switching sut|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: suit|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and W tells S that they play 2.4.|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  W needs the @ha in south for 2 reasons now.|pg||
pc|d2|nt|rhelle:  the HQ will get ruffed|pg||
nt|idc: He's committed himself to South holding @hA, which has two things going for it:|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and no attitude signals|pg||
pc|d6|nt|rhelle:  but now North can draw dummy's last trump and cash a @c|pg||
nt|idc: (i) the play is simple and (ii) it will work as cards lie|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|nt|ady: now ruff a club   but cannot get back to hand to ruff another club|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Declarer, of course, doesn't know it works but surely s has something for his preempt.|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2SA853HQ86DQ8CKQT8,SJT96HK2DAKJ72C92,SKHAJT74D543CA653,SQ742H953DT96CJ74|sv|b|nt|cumino: Può fare anche 4@H senza attacco atout mi pare. 3@S 3@C 1@D 3@H |pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|katar: speriamo nel passo|pg||
nt|cuan: il sistema degli americani fa giocare 2@H quello italico 6@D !!!|pg||
nt|nemeo: i nostri la manche a 5@d di là l'avevano trovata, solo che ne hanno giocata una di troppo|pg||
nt|katar: anche se 3 fiori sarebbe accettabile|pg||
nt|100dog: peccato il rialzo di augustin erano riusciti a trovare il 5@D|pg||
nt|100dog: possiamo dire che USA1 ha guadagnato 5 immeritatamente|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bafieri: alè|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s6|nt|cuan: barbara, il 2@H di questa mano è coerente con quello della mano di prima|pg||
pc|d4|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2SA853HQ86DQ8CKQT8,SJT96HK2DAKJ72C92,SKHAJT74D543CA653,SQ742H953DT96CJ74|sv|b|nt|boedhy:  yes always nice |pg||
nt|santyclz: If you're using the browser version, hit "Other Table" on the right side of the screen.|pg||
nt|athene: lauria-versace play a mildly cute defence to a strong club|pg||
nt|lechcold: w  1 3BA z rekontr¹|pg||
nt|ady: cant tell|pg||
nt|idc: If that had happened, Campos had the option of leading @hK instead, playing South for now bare @hQ|pg||
nt|gulyas: if you get the @Cs and @Ss right as well, you make 4@S|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: South sure they won't bid this game at the other table|pg||
nt|hedyg:  ty Gonzalo :)|pg||
mb|1D|nt|idc: instead of bare @hQ - pity we didn't get to see him make the guess|pg||
mb|1H|nt|fabsayc: believe it or not 1@D is almost natural, 3+|pg||
nt|idc: [instead of bare @hA I meant last line]|pg||
nt|famus: i'm betting on USA2 reaching the finals|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  this is exciting - looks like a @d slam for NS|pg||
nt|brolucius: South worth 3@C now.|pg||
nt|athene: double shows majors|pg||
nt|gracelin: 15-17 at this Vul. 12-14 only at fav. Vul.|pg||
nt|lechcold: sporo zale¿y od wistu:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@c = 4+@d 6-9hcp OR Gameforcing|pg||
nt|psyck:  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/bocchi-madala.pdf|pg||
nt|psyck:  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/bocchi-madala.pdf|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|rhelle:  1@c = 16+|pg||
nt|boedhy:  these board tend te get in teh way if you let it make early in the match|pg||
nt|gracelin: 3NT is there but south is worried about his singleton spade.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 6@c 1@d  o 5-4 minore sing @S|pg||
nt|ady: anotgher lightish opening|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  1@s = @h, unbalanced|pg||
nt|kit: I can't imagine not bidding 3@C on South hand|pg||
nt|athene: 1nt shows major-minor, shapely|pg||
nt|ady: nice lay for 3NT|pg||
mb|2H|nt|rhelle:  1NT = relay|pg||
nt|ady: may get to 4@H     not a great contract   but can make|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  Rob Helle is teh coinventor of teh system Muller de Wijs are playing|pg||
nt|athene: overcalls are 3 or 4 cards with a longer suit somewhere else|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@H has a chance, 4@S is down on the heart ruff |pg||
nt|gulyas: in the meantime, OR made 5@Cx on bd2, for another 14 to Ned, leading by 25, nice start|pg||
nt|hlortz: well being from US i am rooting for them but its a tough road|pg||
nt|kit: This looks like a normal 4@H hand -- should present no problems in bidding or play|pg||
nt|kit: amazingly enough, N-S stopped in 2@H in other room, so chance for big pickup for Italy|pg||
mb|2N|nt|rhelle:  2@h = 4@h, 5+@d|pg||
nt|athene: so according to that scheme, lauria could have overcalled 1@H|pg||
nt|athene: or 1@S :)|pg||
nt|athene: but maybe, vulnerable, he thinks it's unduly risky|pg||
nt|athene: this looks like fairly old-fashioned precision club, so NS are just bidding naturally after the 1@C|pg||
nt|psyck:  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%202/hurd-wooldridge.pdf|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: say LR or bad game raise, danger of getting to bad game|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: rusinow leads|pg||
nt|ady: 2@S   shows spade control?|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: which doesn't say a lot for their system, NS need to cah their 4 winners|pg||
nt|hlortz: the latest system of game tries is bid game and try to make... should fail here :)|pg||
mb|3N|nt|rhelle:  2@s = relay|pg||
nt|rhelle:  2NT = short in @s|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@S transfer to 2NT|pg||
nt|fluffy: probably transfer to 2NT|pg||
nt|ady: 2@S transfer to 2NT apparantly|pg||
nt|ady: 20-20  north declined to balance|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: quite possible that in the other room west opens a weak 2@S|pg||
nt|gracelin: good convention.|pg||
nt|barnets: north has a diamond guess to make 4@H|pg||
mb|4H|nt|athene: but lauria-versace seem to be very conservative with their weak twos, and weak jump bids in general|pg||
nt|gracelin: it's seems those Italians always have a right gadget to describe their hands perfectly.|pg||
nt|gracelin: if ducked to HQ, a club shift will beat it.  So declarer may decide to go up with HK and wor on spade|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Narkiewicz bardzo kaszle|pg||
nt|hlortz: is it totally clear to rise aC if decl leads it early?|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  So he knowes the system like nobody alse oh offcourse WEISMULLER themselver.|pg||
nt|lechcold: na 3BAxx atak poszed³ w kiera...nie powinni siê nasi pomyliæ |pg||
mb|p|nt|antoniz: zabicie Asem i szansa na trzeciego Waleta karo,którego partner ma do³o¿yæ,trudne,ale to szansa praktyczna|pg||
nt|lechcold: tak|pg||
nt|lechcold: wiadomo, ¿e partner ma max waleta|pg||
nt|jkotor: 8 szybkich po puszczeniu|pg||
nt|lechcold: a jesli RGR ma AKW10 w kierach to puszczenie pika wypuszcza kontrakt|pg||
nt|garden2005: i duszenie|pg||
nt|antoniz: i jestemy w przymusie z 4-t¹ Dam¹ kier|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  3@c = relay|pg||
nt|gracelin: of course, the club shift is only academic, nearly impossible in practical|pg||
pc|dT|nt|rhelle:  3@s = 0-4-6-3|pg||
nt|boedhy:  WIESMULLER = Tarzan that is what they called their system|pg||
nt|rhelle:  Now North knows the @c losers will go on the @s AK|pg||
nt|brolucius: Takes away a round of bidding and may suggest a good opening lead.|pg||
nt|jkotor: zgadza siê, ale mo¿na te¿ zagraæ na impas i dzia³kê kierów (choæ przy renonsie trefl ma³o prawdopodobne)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now they can manage two heart ruffs if they diagnose the layout|pg||
pc|d8|nt|rhelle:  so he will get excited!|pg||
nt|kit: And in fact, N-S have profitable save in 5@C, and pushing opponents to 5@H (which likely would have happened) is a big bonus|pg||
nt|athene: slam might be harder to reach if west opened 2@S - what do you do with that north hand? just punt 3nt?|pg||
nt|athene: oh well, no need to pre-empt opps if they don't bid slams even when given a free run|pg||
nt|athene: really you should not miss this slam|pg||
nt|athene: if you play a strong club and opps politely yield you the floor|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|brolucius: So many plusses in bidding.|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|hedyg:  1NT was raptor showing 4@s and a 5 card minor|pg||
nt|jaapfr: anyway 5@C XC was a beauty play by Drijver in OR b2|pg||
nt|fluffy: Drijver- Brink playing only 3@s on board 3, this means at least 10 IMPs for Italy|pg||
pc|dK|nt|antoniz: brawo|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: wd Gosney|pg||
nt|hlortz: well done|pg||
pc|d4|nt|rhelle:  4@c = relay, asking for controls|pg||
nt|boedhy:  still needs the third round @H control|pg||
nt|rhelle:  4@d = 2 controls; an ace or 2 kings|pg||
nt|boedhy:  can he ask for it?|pg||
nt|rhelle:  yes, and he will|pg||
nt|rhelle:  4@h = relay, asking for high cards|pg||
nt|ady: 7 easy    8th have to work for|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|rhelle:  5@c = @dK, @hK, nothing in @c|pg||
nt|famus: and likely to meet the Italian juggernaut--which met their 'David" in New Zealand yesterday|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|nt|rhelle:  5@d = asking for more high cards|pg||
nt|rhelle:  5@s = DQ, not @hQ|pg||
nt|boedhy:  On the last board at the other table Verhees van Prooyen were in the better 3nt contract, which on the layout is cold..|pg||
nt|boedhy:  so a good start for teh home team.|pg||
nt|rhelle:  so really, NS are unlucky that South's red Q is in @d|pg||
nt|rhelle:  otherwise they'd bid 7@d|pg||
nt|athene: maybe south would have been better to raise clubs right away|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Doesn't look likely.|pg||
nt|ady: careful defence will beat 3NT  2 hearts 1 club and 2 other aces|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ady: may cash club and try diamond to the 10|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|barnets: entries mean he is likely to make it on the lucky heart diivision|pg||
nt|warrens:  I can see how N/S might stop in 2@H if S doesn't make a second try|pg||
pc|d3|nt|boedhy:  still think a lot of pairs will end up in 7 @d tho and i dont see a way to make it|pg||
nt|rhelle:  5@h I don't understand - that is a sign-off|pg||
nt|rhelle:  in my version - clearly they play this differently|pg||
nt|jaapfr: y|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 3 boards total 35 imps is a rocket start|pg||
pc|d9|nt|rhelle:  I guess that they could sign off in 5@d|pg||
nt|boedhy:  taht should be possible...|pg||
nt|rhelle:  and 5@h is the relay, and 5NT shows the @dQ and denies the @hQ|pg||
nt|ady: that will bring 8 tricks  unless 6 card spade suit out|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ady: dont think so Barnet   favour diamond to the 10|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|lechcold: profesjona³:)|pg||
pc|h8|nt|ady: in any case thats 3 spades 1 heart 1 club and A@D to lose|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: wd|pg||
pc|h2|nt|boedhy:  then now he is counting his tricks|pg||
nt|rhelle:  that would be useful refinement|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and stops at 12|pg||
nt|rhelle:  indeed. It could be 7 if @h are 3-3|pg||
pc|hT|nt|boedhy:  no|pg||
nt|rhelle:  but you're not going to bid a grand on that|pg||
nt|antoniz: pe³ny szacunek dla gry na jedyn¹ szansê|pg||
nt|barnets: I meant should they have bid 4@H|pg||
nt|jaapfr: nasi sambal lunch:)?|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|barnets: they would likely have made it|pg||
nt|ady: oh sorry|pg||
nt|barnets: luckily|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i hear Dutch ladies scoring equally wild|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|boedhy:  if they bid it as you say Rob they did very well|pg||
nt|rhelle:  trust me :)|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
nt|ady: still would likely need diamond to the 10 in 4@H|pg||
nt|kit: Right Warren, but I don't understand South not making a second try (which is what happened)|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3SQ2HDT65CAQJ98642,SAK8HQT752DK93CT7,SJT7543H984DA82C5,S96HAKJ63DQJ74CK3|sv|n|nt|100dog: mi pare che giochi un po' con il frenomano tirato levin|pg||
nt|bafieri: ma un rialzino da parte di sud?|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|krikka: ciao a tutti|pg||
nt|nemeo: per ora stesso inizio di licita di là, ma Agustin sta pensando su 2@h|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011  for live video|pg||
nt|cumino: 2@H qui è leggermente sottodichioarato visto che Est non ha detto 1@S ma 3@C è sopradichiarato. Il problema è di SUD secondo me, non di NOrd|pg||
mb|4C|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|100dog: 2@H è poco e il passo è un po' remissivo direi 60% colpa 2@H 40% pass a 2@H|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|nt|cumino: Non sono d'accordo. 2@H è solo leggermente sottodichiarato|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|nt|100dog: la surlicita gneralmente garantisce 11+ con fit terzo o un apertura abbondante senza fit quindi con un intervento di quel tipo 2@H è pochino|pg||
nt|cumino: No|pg||
mc|10|nt|100dog: sì|pg||
pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3SQ2HDT65CAQJ98642,SAK8HQT752DK93CT7,SJT7543H984DA82C5,S96HAKJ63DQJ74CK3|sv|n|nt|athene: almost always the key in any tricky slam auction is how soon you can agree the trump suit|pg||
nt|gracelin: maybe another 3NT n this one|pg||
nt|lechcold: Grzegorz te¿ nie czeka³ z dobr¹ wiadomoci¹ (waletem karo):)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: indeed they did :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  I mean the last step you wasnt sure about that?|pg||
nt|ady: in fact west was squeezed last hand|pg||
mb|1H|nt|rhelle:  I'm pretty sure|pg||
nt|brolucius: 1@C is 3+ clubs and 11-21 points.|pg||
nt|athene: 14-16 notrump, fairly standard amongst strong clubbers these days|pg||
nt|gracelin: 1H to show spade.|pg||
nt|barnets: Italy now on board after USA bid 3N in other room|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Link to Convention Cards: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/docdefault.asp?page=2011Veldhoven&start=c%3A%5Cinetpub%5Cwwwroot%5Cecatsbridge%5Cdocuments%5Cfiles%5CConventionCards|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Just an overtrick.|pg||
nt|ady: slam time|pg||
mb|5C|nt|boedhy:  well done then anyway :)|pg||
nt|rhelle:  NL is taking a bid lead|pg||
nt|hlortz: italians always seem to be there at the end|pg||
mb|5H|nt|kit: I totally agree with this call.  South knows his side has at least 8 clubs and E-W have at least 8 hearts, so odds in favor of competing to 3@C|pg||
nt|athene: south should force this to slam i think|pg||
nt|athene: AJ10xx is a lot better than just 5 hcp|pg||
nt|lechcold: 1@S Narkiewicz?|pg||
nt|lechcold: nie s¹dzê|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: W apologized|pg||
nt|ady: 6@D best|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: not vul should balance|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: S alerted his 2@s bid - guess it show exactly 3@s and 8-10hcp|pg||
nt|ady: though 6@C also ok|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  bidding 3nt is really strange....|pg||
nt|gracelin: Madala-Bocchi use trsf response to 1C opening|pg||
nt|famus: I'm gettin msgs from involved kibtz--they got their money onn these boys winning--that b a gr8 morale booster for youngsters the world over|pg||
nt|kit: This is a bold bid at adverse vulnerability, but it is effective as it drives E-W too high|pg||
mb|p|nt|hlortz: will west try science or a simple 5@d?|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ady: a quieter hand|pg||
nt|pawel90: NS maj¹ tu do wygrania nawet 5@H, ale obrona pikami jest dobra na kazdej wysokosci|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes @D the old joke what do u call an 8 card suit? trump!|pg||
nt|warrens:  an aggressive 5@C works.  Kit, you must love this :)|pg||
nt|kit: Difficult problem for Stansby, but he would have done a lot better doubling and collecting 500|pg||
pc|c7|nt|ady: not a successful lead     heart works out better|pg||
pc|c5|nt|rhelle:  North feels he is too weak to handle 1NT X|pg||
nt|kit: And here it pushed opponents to poor game|pg||
nt|brolucius: N/S play 15+ - 18 for 1NT, so North was a shade light for that opening bid.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: "good dummy" says Einarsson after W put down his cards - I agree :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and W layed down his @sK as it was just a small @s|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: in between|pg||
nt|jaapfr: some will bid as W|pg||
nt|ady: e/w can save for around  eight or eleven hundred|pg||
nt|famus: how much is 6@s costing|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|ady: 20-20 split here|pg||
pc|c2|nt|idc: The defence had to stay away from both pointed suits here (@s & @d) which wasn't an easy task for them|pg||
nt|ady: looks like 8 tricks|pg||
pc|cT|nt|kiwibridge: Aust allowed to make that 4@S for an early 12 imp lead|pg||
pc|h9|nt|ady: this may well fail|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|kit: So another 10 IMP's for Italy|pg||
pc|h4|nt|rhelle:  South is now advertising a rally big hand - and North will bid 3NT|pg||
nt|boedhy:  bidding 3NT yourself much safer|pg||
nt|rhelle:  9 tricks are of course easy once the @cQ drops|pg||
nt|rhelle:  so the NS aggressive auction looks like paying off|pg||
nt|boedhy:  well it is sort of lucky offcourse on a @s lead you need that|pg||
nt|antoniz: 5karo mo¿na wygraæ,ale 4pik zawsze -1|pg||
nt|jkotor: znaczy jak w koñcu S otworzy kiera, co jest raczej oczywiste|pg||
nt|ady: now 13 tricks|pg||
mc|10|nt|brolucius: Some players would not have bid 3@C, vulnerable, worried that partner might have only 3 clubs. But you can see that making that pre-emptive bid has pushed E/W around.|pg||
nt|santyclz: S is likely to have 1 honor for the bidding, if it's a @h this is a good contract.  The @sk dooms it.|pg||
nt|kit: Still likely 1 loser in each suit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: actually it has value|pg||
nt|lechcold: bêd¹ punkty w 19, nasi nie poszli w obronê pikami|pg||
pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4S732HAT98DA85CAT3,SAJHKJ62DT74CKJ86,SKQ965HQ743DQ92C7,ST84H5DKJ63CQ9542|sv|e|nt|cumino: No|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|Walddk2:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=881  running BB scores|pg||
mb|p|nt|cumino: L'alternativa è dichiarare troppo. Infatti anche Bocchi ha detto 2@H. Non potendo dire 2 e mezzo|pg||
mb|p|pc|h5|nt|cuan: garozzo ha spiegato anche agli americani la convenzione 2@H qui|pg||
nt|nemeo: si ma vedo che la giocano anche fortina...|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hK|nt|remo: credo che lui la tratti da 2@S|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|nt|cuan: 2@H = 5@S+4@H debole. questa sembra invero più una limite|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
nt|katar: immagino che giochino stile Garozzo e come mai Weintein non ha rettificato a 2 picche?|pg||
nt|nemeo: comunque in USA è abbastanza giocata, primi fra tutti i Meckwell|pg||
nt|100dog: dipende da come strutturi il sistema se giochi check back anche con l'altra 4 nobile puoi usare un solo slot a  salto |pg||
nt|nemeo: e per loro è ok con 9 su 1@d generalmente 11-13 bil|pg||
nt|djneill:  Levin-Weinstein card: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%201/levin-weinstein.pdf|pg||
nt|cuan: alla 20 BM hanno chiamato 4@H e l'Italia allunga|pg||
nt|djneill:  Duboin-Sementa card: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/duboin-sementa.pdf|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|c2|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
nt|tax456: stamattina cosa è successo ?|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|nt|gluckenval: comunque Levin-Weinstein giocano 1@C-2@H = 5+@S/4@H e 9-11 di range |pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|cK|nt|figb_rama: stamattina 25 con il Sudafrica|pg||
pc|h3|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
nt|gluckenval: o meglio solo 5@S/4+@H, mentre la 6/4 stesso range la danno col 2@S|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|h6|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4S732HAT98DA85CAT3,SAJHKJ62DT74CKJ86,SKQ965HQ743DQ92C7,ST84H5DKJ63CQ9542|sv|e|nt|boedhy:  other table south in 2@s.... not that easy  :)|pg||
nt|santyclz: Right, so "good" was an overbid.|pg||
nt|ady: push|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: could have made him guess|pg||
nt|famus: too much for Grue--to work out:) wonder what mood wud be the Brazlian sitting in W posn b?|pg||
nt|warrens:  I don't see how W could X with 5 @H's.  Madala's bid did it.|pg||
nt|kit: This is a fair 4@H contract, but the 4-1 split probably defeats it.|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  better to be in 3nt..|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: ooh double game swing USA|pg||
mb|1N|an|12-14|nt|rhelle:  intersting hand ... expect fireworks!|pg||
nt|kit: Flannery, may be 4-6 or even 5-6 as we see here|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  offcourse South Africa not among the favorites|pg||
nt|rhelle:  true - but a very solid team|pg||
nt|brolucius: Terence Reese once described Flannery as the worst bidding convention ever invented. "It copes with a distribution that causes no problen whatsoever with natural bidding,' was his ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: view.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: at this vul they open weak nt|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Not everybody's 2@h bid...|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes 4@h let thru in OR|pg||
nt|ady: might be 1@S passed out again|pg||
mb|2C|nt|boedhy:  although Apteker Gower are a good international pair|pg||
nt|fabsayc: on board 4 isreal bid to 4@S down 2 off the top|pg||
nt|ady: all game down I would think|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  And teh Netherlands are among the topfavorites especially on home turf|pg||
nt|rhelle:  5@c will be lead directing|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is very high up on Roland Wald's list of the world's 10 worst conventions too.|pg||
nt|santyclz: Roland agrees.|pg||
nt|brolucius: It has always staggered me that so many very good players use it.|pg||
nt|kit: big advantage of Flannery is that you don't have to respond 1@S to 1@H on a 4-bagger, so opener knows it shows 5.|pg||
nt|gracelin: yes, it will be 12-14|pg||
nt|gracelin: There is an excellent interview to Bocchi on the net.  I just don't know how to copy to long address to present to you.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@s asks for minor|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 3@d shows more d@s than @cs|pg||
nt|ady: games|pg||
mb|2H|nt|rhelle:  well ... I think Italy is very strong, especially in the absence of the alltime strong USA teams|pg||
nt|brolucius: Roland thinks the convention is so totally awful that he forbids commentators to use the F-word. (I will let your one aberration go unreported on this ocasion, Kit.)|pg||
nt|ady: nice lay for 3NT e/w|pg||
nt|idc: The 3@c is minimum & without 4 card @d|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Some won't with 4 cards in the other major, some won't with a void, some will with one of those flaws but not both.|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: WE graj¹ Precison|pg||
nt|idc: a 3@d response to 2NT would have been 4 diamonds, min or max|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: very costly for Australia|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: some back here I expect|pg||
nt|jaapfr: a razorblade sharp 4@S needs @C lead to beat?|pg||
nt|ady: no   strong club |pg||
mb|3H!|an|invite|nt|rhelle:  South X of 5@c is interesting|pg||
nt|kit: Well, if I get fired it won't be the first time in my life :)|pg||
nt|santyclz: The x took no room, 4@c might have given e a problem --  although not in this case.|pg||
nt|daman:  http://neapolitanclub.altervista.org/eng/and-now-lets-talk-about-bridge-interview-to-norberto-bocchi.html|pg||
nt|gracelin: thanks, George.  You helped me out|pg||
nt|lechcold: 1@D nic o karach nie mówi|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  yes probably has a specific meaning..|pg||
nt|rhelle:  showing the desire to compete|pg||
nt|famus: at worst wud b a 5IMP swing--dunno|pg||
nt|kit: tempting to bid game with 3 aces, even though only 12 points and 4-3-3-3|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  and now he has done his part and passes|pg||
nt|ady: might make 12 tricks as they lay|pg||
nt|ady: might make only 9 if spade is ducked early by defence|pg||
nt|ady: when hearts split well will have 9 tricks and be relucant ti risk diamond finesse|pg||
nt|idc: as has been pointed out to me, a good thing E-W missed their @s fit|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  NS need to cash their 3 tricks in a hurry|pg||
nt|boedhy:  but looking at the hands....|pg||
nt|daman:  my oleasure     a great interview|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 3@d = more @ds than @cs|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the problem here was the wide range 1nt|pg||
nt|ady: needs to win in east hand to make 12|pg||
nt|barnets: we can see that but he is trying to guarantee just 9 tricks|pg||
nt|barnets: on this lead|pg||
nt|barnets: there is no absolute guarantee I can see|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: take the A , play @D and then take safety play perhaps for 9|pg||
nt|barnets: when he loses the lead the def shift to a spade|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: attitude lead|pg||
nt|idc: I wonder if any Multi 2@d users will play 6@h by West and suffer a ruff at trick one|pg||
nt|idc: or perhaps East passes in some matches and West becomes declarer that way|pg||
nt|ady: Q@H lead|pg||
nt|ady: ?|pg||
nt|ady: sorry  otherway up|pg||
nt|gulyas: 4@S may make if they let him get the 4th @D to discard a @C|pg||
nt|jaapfr: yes so no @C lead for declarer|pg||
nt|gulyas: @DQ lead looks normal, then game is cold|pg||
nt|hlortz: 1@S forcing 1n 2nd neg like 0-5 i think|pg||
nt|warrens:  I think he'll pass non-vul|pg||
pc|d4|nt|lechcold: akurat w przypadku otwarcie 1@D nazwa "Precision" nie jest zbyt trafna:)|pg||
nt|idc: after a transfer to hearts|pg||
nt|ady: yes     that is true|pg||
nt|gulyas: here she comes|pg||
nt|kit: Declarer has plenty of problems in 3@H here.  Play at trick 1 itself is far from clear.|pg||
nt|kit: Due to the entry situation he will probably play hearts leading them twice from dummy, which is not a success on this layout.|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|nt|boedhy:  5! is cold|pg||
nt|kit: Good judgment by all to reach par here|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|brolucius: West does not want to play a second top spade here.|pg||
nt|hlortz: might w dbl 3@S with the intent to pull @c to @D?|pg||
nt|kit: He will use this entry to make a spade play I'm pretty sure.|pg||
pc|s3|nt|boedhy:  @s|pg||
nt|rhelle:  the @s8 will be lavinthal for @d|pg||
nt|rhelle:  South can see he needs 2 @d tricks to defeat the contract|pg||
nt|rhelle:  so he needs the @dK in North|pg||
nt|rhelle:  might as well play the @dJ now|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|ady: in fact needed a club lead|pg||
pc|sK|nt|kit: They show standard count on king lead 5-level or higher contract|pg||
nt|brolucius: East will have given count.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and make 10|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: better than the arvitrary 4@H|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|gulyas: it maybe tricky if they play a @C back|pg||
nt|ady: good lead     may be able to force and entry to west hand in diamonds for a heart finesse |pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|nt|barnets: now he has the guarantee for his contract|pg||
nt|pawel90: niestety treflowy tu obk³ada³|pg||
pc|hA|nt|kit: Now, when West shifts to a heart East will have to deduce that reason West didn't cash second spade is that it isn't cashing.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: bound to lose the @D for safety|pg||
nt|famus: gets an additional entry|pg||
nt|hlortz: both sides have used trump leads on defense well|pg||
nt|athene:  hi :)|pg||
nt|athene:  sry private :)|pg||
nt|ady: in fact 9@S entry   so should make 8 tricks|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|gracelin: 3C is also making here, so either 9 or 10 tricks will result in a tied board|pg||
nt|idc: Now declarer can claim, overtrick if @sK right|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: try this if you want to see live play, not very exciting http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|hlortz: this looks 2 off but i may wrong by a trick|pg||
pc|h8|nt|lechcold: 1@D to 11-15 punktów bez starszej pi¹tki i uk³adów pasuj¹cych do otwarcia 2@C|pg||
nt|kamyk: no i to w³anie jest precyzyjne opisanie charakteru rêki:)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: we agree on most pairs will bid this and most will make it?|pg||
pc|h6|nt|malpaluche: @d j'aurais compris|pg||
pc|h4|nt|brolucius: East has advertised length in the majors, so declarer will probably play West for the @DQ.|pg||
nt|barnets: lets say north had K10xx in diaimonds and hearts were 4-2|pg||
nt|jkotor: 4@s na przeciwnej, ³adnie naszych wyblokowali|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|boedhy:  difficult to see who must bid again|pg||
nt|kit: will just have easy squeeze -- will not need to finesse|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes|pg||
nt|kit: Note Levin's heart plays -- trying to hide king of hearts so declarer places him with other high cards|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer just needs one of SA/HK to be on side.  In fact both are.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: the t/o X was left in for 300 OR|pg||
pc|s2|nt|boedhy:  but think  South has a sort of lesser rick decision|pg||
nt|boedhy:  risk|pg||
nt|kit: I doubt if declarer will be fooled here, but still good defensive technique|pg||
pc|sA|nt|barnets: he would be down|pg||
pc|s5|nt|lechcold: w niektórych wersjach mo¿e byæ nawet renons karo|pg||
nt|barnets: on a spade switch|pg||
nt|ady: 1 imp for USA|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|gracelin: guess he will cross ruff to 10 tricks for the same imp as 9 tricks.|pg||
nt|twcho: best if EW plays non-leaping Michael here|pg||
nt|gulyas: has to decide if he plays for the @HA to be onside, or the @Ds to be good, but this is better, of course|pg||
nt|kit: I'm really surprised he got the hearts right considering the entry problems.|pg||
pc|c6|nt|ady: club back too late|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|gracelin: he is happy with 9|pg||
pc|s7|pc|hJ|nt|gracelin: now he might reject the H finesse for a safe 9 tricks|pg||
pc|s6|nt|brolucius: When declarer runs the trumps West will have to keep the @SA and so unguard the diamonds.|pg||
nt|brolucius: This would allow declarer to pick up the suit when West held x-x-x (and had to throw one) and East started with Q-x. |pg||
nt|santyclz: China took a 5 imp lead when on bd 2 w chose to lead the @dk, s ruffed the 3rd round high and finessed into the stiff @cq.|pg||
nt|santyclz: To see how a board was played at the other table with the download version, click "Movie", then "(other) Room",|pg||
nt|santyclz: click on the board you wish to review, and click Next to step through the play. With the Browser version click |pg||
nt|brolucius: The diamond position is known as a show-up squeeze, because East's @DQ-x may become 'shown up' after West has been forced to discard a diamond. When West follows low on the 2nd ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: round, his card is known to be his last in the suit.|pg||
nt|santyclz: click on the board you wish to review, and click Next to step through the play. With the Browser version click |pg||
nt|fabsayc: defense is playing with fire, jorgensen needs to avoid getting endplayed|pg||
nt|fabsayc: spade jack shift was totally safe after east discarded two cards in suit|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|c2|nt|gracelin: HA and HJ|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1ST7HKT96DK54CJ874,S32H82DAQ9862CQT2,SKJ9654HAJ7D7CA53,SAQ8HQ543DJT3CK96|sv|b|nt|cumino: Ottima la 21. Madala su 1@H ha dto 5@C e giocano 5@H che vanno sotto|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|cuan: Le ladies purtroppo stanno perdendo 18-12 con l'Olanda. Ora settime in un calderone di squadre a caccia dell'ottavo posto utile per i quarti.|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|remo: EO hanno bel parziale, ma non credo potranno entrare|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: 2@H  is less than 9, transfer to 2@S|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|caruga: buongiorno a tutti|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
nt|cuan: ciao fabio|pg||
nt|cumino: ciao|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|s4|pg||
nt|gluckenval: gli americani giocano 1@H-1NT semiforcing, e 1@S-1NT forcing, quindi non possono giocare gazzilli in quanto in queste sequenze il 2@C è spesso obbligato|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s8|pc|c4|pc|d6|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg||
nt|nemeo: giocando Flannery, però perlomeno se lo risparmiano col doppio di fiori|pg||
pc|c3|nt|gluckenval: probabilmente come per molti che giocano 1NT f1 in risposta ad 1M, c'è dentro il fit 3° limite|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s9|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|d8|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hT|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|hQ|pg||
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qx|c23|st||md|1ST7HKT96DK54CJ874,S32H82DAQ9862CQT2,SKJ9654HAJ7D7CA53,SAQ8HQ543DJT3CK96|sv|b|nt|rhelle:  Ns are playing very well; 6 plus scores on difficult hands|pg||
nt|santyclz: Other Table, click on the board and use the single arrow in the bottom right to step through.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Presumably South did not want to show off, by making such an erudite play.|pg||
nt|ady: to Italy    sorry|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: E: "@ss are always 5-0"|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 1 out of 100 will find he deadly @C lead imo|pg||
nt|gulyas: after the @DQ lead, he would play for the likely @DJ onside|pg||
nt|ady: long diamond can be set up before club is established for defence|pg||
nt|famus: that was odd|pg||
nt|ady: did not see the lay  but cant see how only  6 tricks|pg||
nt|hlortz: ?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: its 2@S just made, so 8|pg||
nt|ady: did not see the play|pg||
nt|famus: did he go for @cs?|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes -200 seems odd|pg||
mb|p|nt|idc: The other table is slow so we won't be getting comparisons for a while, Brazil will feel that slam is a potential gain|pg||
nt|antoniz: ciekawe rozdanie|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  and then finding out he makes the contract|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 13 back looks like a match of big swings|pg||
mb|1S|nt|boedhy:  think this last one will loose|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2h is supposedly 10-12, multi for weaker hands|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@h = 6@hs 10-12 hcp|pg||
mb|p|nt|gulyas: I can see the cards, too:) - but he may play for the @HA onside on, say, a trump lead|pg||
nt|pawel90: nam idzie 4@s - im 5@C|pg||
nt|ady: movie says plus 110 last hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: connection dropped out so maybe some data was wrong but the movie says 110|pg||
nt|famus: Hi Vincent --so it get made-good|pg||
mb|1N|nt|kit: Weinstein evaluates his hand too strong for 1NT opening due to good 5-card club suit and 2 aces.|pg||
nt|kit: 2@H call shows 5 spades, 4 hearts, invite values if I remember|pg||
nt|brolucius: The US South did enter on the @CK-Q-J-x-x-x hand and they then pushed E/W to 5@S for a 13-IMP swing.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Lost connection, up to speed now|pg||
nt|gracelin: EW can make 4H with the right guess of S, but they lack the points to go that high|pg||
mb|2D|nt|boedhy:  against 5@s doubled|pg||
nt|pelu: can make - but not bid 4@h|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: so you were right Martin :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and this has stolen the board|pg||
nt|gulyas: SD, not DD|pg||
nt|ady: likely heart game    12 tricks maybe without diamond lead|pg||
mb|d|nt|rhelle:  Normall NS play 1NT as a good 12-15|pg||
nt|rhelle:  but 3rd and 4th hand, vulnerable, they play 14-15|pg||
nt|rhelle:  to avoid unwelcome penalty doubles|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i have the cc on my second computer|pg||
nt|kit: N-S in other room did well to stop in 2@S making|pg||
mb|2N|nt|gracelin: Hi Peter|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  with all the good tens and the @h king onsite he will make 9 tricks...|pg||
nt|jkotor: na 5@c co trzeba trafiæ|pg||
nt|famus: did*|pg||
nt|kit: Nice 2NT call by Martel -- that is a fine contract|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Many thanks to our excellent VG operator for the bidding explanations. Roland told us that the operators have been practising for a while and they have certainly been very good.|pg||
nt|kit: Routine 4@S contract, will easily make 10 or 11 tricks, and almost sure to be same at other table.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: so you are cheating|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr: @D lead again:)|pg||
nt|ady: diamond bid by Sementa stopped any chance of 12 tricks|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@H NF |pg||
nt|gulyas: sry for those who do not know the terms yet: SD: single dummy (like a declarer at the table)|pg||
nt|pawel90: po pikowym trzeba dojæ od razu impasem kier do stolu|pg||
nt|kit: 3@D will make also|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s2|nt|twcho: so a partial pick up by USA1|pg||
nt|gulyas: DD: double dummy, seeing all 4 hands|pg||
nt|famus: good lead|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: yes 110 for east west is the correct score|pg||
nt|ady: 10 tricks if defence cash 3 clubs   otherwise 11|pg||
pc|s4|nt|boedhy:  Well 5@h also played in the other room..|pg||
nt|fabsayc: just following the guidelines for commentators :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and that great :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: it is not always easy to see what the players are writing to eachother on their small pieces of pater|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: paper |pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|pelu: Hi Patrick|pg||
nt|fabsayc: ecatsbridge.com has cc for all participants|pg||
nt|ady: not much in this hand    maybe an imp|pg||
nt|idc: 2NT was a game-forcing hand with some @d support, 3@h we can only guess at|pg||
nt|twcho: 2@s will pose no difficulty for Weinstein|pg||
nt|hlortz: difficult hands with big swings at stake - fun for the kibs, onot so much for the players|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|lechcold: 4@S = minimum-minimorum, 5@C = 1 as z 5|pg||
nt|barnets: good lead|pg||
nt|idc: Thanks to our Operator, Paul, now we know 3@h showed a singleton|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: ok we are up after some difficulties|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: now it should be ok|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: thx to my new glasses :)|pg||
nt|gulyas: commentators have to be careful not to get carried away with DD analysis: players can only see 2 hands, not 4|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|brolucius: I am still getting kibitzers querying that it was right to enter with 3@C over 2@C on that South hand. Everyone knows that they should interfere over a strong 1@C, but it is just ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: as effective over 2@C, when the opponents are almost certain to have a game and will want to show their long suit rather than double you.|pg||
nt|ady: well cashed|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Running scores as asked :|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm |pg||
nt|idc: Martel-Stansby play attitude leads v NT, hence the @s6 (lower the card the more leader likes his suit)|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|nt|fabsayc: there is a losing line right now|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Is s leading from jxxx or axxx?|pg||
nt|kit: Bocchi has easy jack of hearts shift|pg||
pc|h6|nt|santyclz2:  Neither is high on the list of preferable opening leads.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: mb these 2 teams can be the ultimate finalists of the BB:)|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|kareno: So the curious raise to 3@s led to a reasonable but doomed contract.|pg||
pc|hA|nt|gracelin: it's all down the guessing S9 for either 9 or 10 tricks|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|nt|fabsayc: but with no cover would be anti-percentage|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|h7|nt|gracelin: SJ|pg||
nt|antoniz: zagra³ perfekcyjnie|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|kareno: The play I would make in spades would be the ten.  Then you can pick up any Qx or Qxx in south (opener's) hand.|pg||
nt|kareno: Why not?|pg||
nt|athene: lauria thinking about south's distribution|pg||
nt|athene: he has only five clubs|pg||
pc|hK|nt|santyclz: In a lower level game it's frequently even more useful as the opps may have agreements to handle the situation.|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|hT|pc|d6|nt|twcho: 7 imps for USA1|pg||
nt|gulyas: yes, this is THE match to watch now, these teams currently ranked 1st and 2nd|pg||
pc|s5|nt|boedhy:  still 9|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
mc|8|nt|athene: so he has to have 4 in a major|pg||
nt|athene: if it's spades you are down anyway|pg||
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qx|o24|st||md|2SAT7HJT8DKQT976C2,S5H52DJ853CAKJ864,SKQ43HA97D42CQ975,SJ9862HKQ643DACT3|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|cuan: in competizione si vede che parliamo due lingue molto diverse|pg||
nt|remo: difficile da trovare l'attacco @H :)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg||
nt|100dog: ci si può tornare però|pg||
nt|100dog: non ha fretta di fare tagli con il jxxx|pg||
nt|remo: credo che con AK e un singolo attacchino di Asso mentre se non c'è il singolo attacchino di K|pg||
pc|s5|nt|100dog: non illuminato il ritorno a @S|pg||
nt|nemeo: alla 22 Madala ha fatto 3@h rimediando al vantaggio che il 2@h 9-11 di Levin aveva dato agli americani|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|d5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h5|nt|cumino: Gli US in 2S che fa alla 23. Doppio per loro (qui 2@S NS)|pg||
pc|hA|nt|cuan: deve mettere l'asso per farlo, con squeeze finale su est|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|pg||
nt|remo: squeeze|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|d7|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|100dog: per farle deve fare lo squeeze su antonio|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|c9|pc|s6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|c6|pc|cQ|nt|100dog: dovrebbe aver contato la mano|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d9|pc|c8|pc|h7|nt|100dog: ben giocata bravo|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2SAT7HJT8DKQT976C2,S5H52DJ853CAKJ864,SKQ43HA97D42CQ975,SJ9862HKQ643DACT3|sv|o|nt|santyclz: (may not)|pg||
nt|athene: so he has to have four hearts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: also west was more or less marked with spade ace since opponents points had to be divided|pg||
nt|ady: flat   only 1 club out   so heart finesse was safe|pg||
nt|barnets: in open room wst in 5@H on @D8 lead|pg||
nt|idc: I guess declarer could lead twice towards his clubs on a red suit lead, so can't stop him getting a 9th trick on any lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz2:  Good cash by Martel.|pg||
nt|lechcold: nie ba³ siê licytowaæ, rozgrywaæ te¿ umie...nie jest ³atwo o punkty w tych zawodach, prawda?|pg||
nt|ady: e/w have 12 tricks in hearts|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Good point. Some play that an immediate double shows values, some that it denies them.|pg||
mb|1S|nt|athene: now it is looking more likely he is short in spades - with 2-4-2-5 he might open 1nt?|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: Italy on the rampage 71 against hapless Brazil|pg||
mb|2D|nt|ady: but may just play game|pg||
mb|3C|nt|rhelle:  ah, a good hand for EW|pg||
nt|ady: overcalls gettin lighter and lighter|pg||
nt|lechcold: w 22 Brazylijczycy w³adowali koñcówkê pikow¹|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: 1@S shows five and is 11-21 points. |pg||
nt|idc: On Bd 5, Levin in other room has led the same @s7 as in this room v 4@h|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  yes no alert on 2@c|pg||
nt|brolucius: 1NT is not marked as forcing on their convention card.|pg||
nt|gracelin: Italy had an average of 24 VPs in the last 4 matches but they meet resistence here, at least until now.|pg||
nt|pelu: in Or N open and they are on rute to 4@s|pg||
nt|idc: so that seems likely to be a flat game|pg||
nt|famus: 3@Hs|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  most pairs play some sort of relay in this situation|pg||
nt|boedhy:  think pass is wrong if west is not limited|pg||
nt|rhelle:  I guess it depends on the EW system|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: GF relay|pg||
pc|d4|nt|boedhy:  5@c is very good |pg||
nt|boedhy:  difficult to see for Muller... now they will bid it|pg||
nt|boedhy:  probably|pg||
nt|boedhy:  does anyone know where we can find the runnning scores?|pg||
nt|kit: whether forcing, seme-forcing, or NF not much choice|pg||
nt|kit: But the 2@S preference is very questionable|pg||
nt|gracelin: with the fitting cards in H, north will bid agressvely|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: przekaz wideo na zywo: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sorry, lost connection|pg||
nt|kit: N-S did well bidding and making 3@D in other room, so chance for USA pickup if 3@C can make|pg||
pc|dA|nt|boedhy:  Bauke not amused....|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Muller that is|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3 possible slams on this board, although 6@C is probably down on diamond lead|pg||
nt|barnets: dec rose K so is down in 5@H|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: aktualne wyniki open: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|hlortz: 6@H is about 50-50 so .... bold or safe??|pg||
nt|famus: lookin for cue|pg||
nt|famus: serious 3NT|pg||
nt|ady: if they reach a slam  will make    spade king is protected with west declarer and will be discarded on the clubs  if A@S is not casshed|pg||
pc|d6|nt|santyclz: Anyone for a 3@h bid  by s on the 2nd round?|pg||
nt|kit: How can North possibly take another call?|pg||
nt|brolucius: E/W stopped in 2@H making, for China, on the board where we saw South make a pre-emptive raise to 3@C. 5 IMPs.|pg||
nt|athene: of course if he has a singleton spade you are down too :) but if he has doubleton, what are the odds it is Qx?|pg||
nt|kareno: He is the opening bidder which changes things somewhat.|pg||
nt|kareno: And no @h k|pg||
nt|athene: yes, sure, it was close call|pg||
nt|athene: the @H10 here makes 6@H better|pg||
nt|athene: i mean better than it might have been :)|pg||
nt|gracelin: but he doesn't like his CK after the double|pg||
nt|pelu: but the D of 2@C sh slow N down|pg||
nt|idc: West's 3@d was a minimum hcp splinter|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: aktualne wyniki kobiet: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=882|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|kamyk: ta kontra, to typowa akcja Narkiewicza - nie ma ziewania|pg||
nt|idc: I would have thought that that would turn East off, but he's gone on anyway|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 3@S C best |pg||
nt|ady: cannot go wrong in the trump suit|pg||
pc|s2|nt|kit: South could have a doubleton spade and a 6-count it would seem.  Unless these bids don't mean what they look like.|pg||
nt|kareno: 6@h is practically laydown while 6@s relies on 3-2 spades pretty well.|pg||
nt|gracelin: yes, indeed.  A good stop, probably enough for them to ake the lead.|pg||
nt|gracelin: take|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i think li should have mentioned his hearts before raising clubs|pg||
nt|famus: ok so 3NT was @s cue|pg||
pc|s7|nt|boedhy:  And apteker will get the @c right|pg||
nt|lechcold: wa¿ne, ¿e walet trefl jest tam gdzie byæ powinien:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Li is really taking his time here|pg||
nt|twcho: the J can be from QJxx(x) or J10x|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: i seniorow: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=883|pg||
pc|s5|nt|pelu: looks like 4@S down 1 or 2 = 5-6 IMP for Italy|pg||
nt|ady: diuble of 3@H game try    3@S  would be competitive|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: new zealand is the surprise of the tournament so far, they are leading usa2 by 35-10|pg||
nt|barnets: west played north for @DA as he is quite capable of having|pg||
nt|idc: Ahha, West it was who took control with a 4@s RKCB|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 4@H X could be easily 2 down|pg||
nt|jaapfr: y with @DQ falling 4@S can be made|pg||
nt|hedyg:  if the double by E was a gameinvite i find it courageous|pg||
nt|ady: as lone as they shift to a heart before trumps played  just 9 tricks|pg||
nt|ady: long|pg||
pc|c2|nt|athene: if south knows his partner's shape then 6@H looks clear, with the good suit texture, even not knowing of the @H10 opposite|pg||
nt|kareno: Still it is hard to posit such a perfect fit.|pg||
nt|athene: a pity - my guess is south found out distribution but didn't know he was facing so many prime cards|pg||
nt|kareno: I would guess Italy will find the slam in the OR.|pg||
nt|athene: and he didn't have any way to make a mild slam try in hearts - if he had done so, north would surely have accepted|pg||
nt|barnets: a good pickup here for USA|pg||
nt|idc: Perhaps West could have tried 4@d instead, East cues 4@h, and they might stop in 5@c|pg||
nt|ady: well bid|pg||
nt|kit: Madala must have played ace of spades -- otherwise that doesn't make sense, and clear to play ace anyway|pg||
pc|cA|nt|boedhy:   http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|boedhy:  for the runnning scores click on live scores bermuda bowl|pg||
nt|boedhy:  still think much more system default or bidding mistake from Gower that they were not bidding it|pg||
nt|boedhy:  But Muller wil be thinking about this...|pg||
nt|rhelle:  sure - but as South you're still kicking yourself|pg||
nt|boedhy:  only one in 7@d on the board... Chili against Italy bog lead for them also|pg||
nt|yke:  some players might just open 1NT. But maybe they play 13-15 NT since they play precision?|pg||
nt|famus: 4S not alerted looks like rkc?|pg||
pc|c5|nt|brolucius: 15+ - 18 1NT.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: it was,|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|d3|nt|brolucius: Anyway, as Kit remarked, they have had to take a rather close view to reach game after their chosen start.|pg||
nt|santyclz: Looks like 15+ to me.  Maybe a 5 card major is a barrier for them.|pg||
nt|gracelin: bad lucks for China that HK is not on side.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: that is 71-0 after 11|pg||
pc|d2|nt|fabsayc: diamond lead will create problems with spades 4-2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: in fact i dont see a way to make the hand|pg||
nt|idc: mind you, i've been in many, many worse slams than this one on a finesse|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and 5@H 2 and queen of hearts|pg||
nt|ady: slam easier to get to via strong club|pg||
pc|cT|nt|fabsayc: so that unbid heart suit was the only making slam|pg||
nt|kit: well, maybe he didn't -- but it does seem clear play|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|nt|boedhy:  on board 6 I was right lot of peaple in 5@s even 4@s doubled...|pg||
nt|yke:  for me it is a 1NT opening. But that's just a matter of style|pg||
nt|gracelin: good play on route to 9 tricks.  Declarer can later duck a round of D, draw top trumps and pitch dummy's D on good H, then ruff a D.|pg||
nt|pelu: even with @HK onside there are hard work to make 4@s|pg||
nt|gracelin: same play if Hearts are 3-3, declarer can pitch one D on H to lose only 1S, 1D and 1C|pg||
nt|pelu: and 12 opp 11 - and bad @C-value is not game potentional in green|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer in 2S here needs to find way to encounter a possible 4-1 trumps break, thus the huddle.|pg||
pc|c4|nt|pawel90: w 23 Buras gra 4BA i mysli, czy impasowac trefla|pg||
nt|pawel90: zaimpasowa³|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|cK|nt|athene: the hand might still prove difficult|pg||
nt|athene: the problem is north has a better hand than he might have, but not really enough to take control|pg||
nt|kareno: Spades break.  Or third club can be ruffed with ten of hearts.|pg||
nt|athene: and he can't show his extras very easily in a lot of auctions|pg||
pc|c7|pc|h3|nt|fabsayc: this table is also in time trouble|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|famus: so he promoted his 6th @H to show Q|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|nt|santyclz: The Kaplan and Rubens Hand Evaluator rates the n hand at 16.50 http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi?hand=kq1085+ak5+k106+103|pg||
nt|brolucius: South had a choice of 2@H, 3@H and 2@S on the second. Maybe even 2NT. He was fortunate to find the game after choosing 2@S.|pg||
nt|athene: oh yes, i didn't mean in the play, i meant the bidding|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|c6|nt|vugraphznt: 1@h left for the last 8 boards|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 1H|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|ady: 5@H too high on a trump lead|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3SAJ95HT74DJ87CQJ7,SKT843HJ52DAK54C5,SQHA98DQT3CAT9643,S762HKQ63D962CK82|sv|e|nt|100dog: da apprezzare anche loblocco di antonio è costato una presa ma vale un plauso|pg||
nt|100dog: sblocco|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c7|nt|100dog: non vedo squeeze in giro stavolta|pg||
nt|cumino: Se tornava 8@S invece che J era meglio mi pare|pg||
nt|cumino: 9|pg||
pc|s3|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|d5|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|nt|cuan: questa non la fa|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3SAJ95HT74DJ87CQJ7,SKT843HJ52DAK54C5,SQHA98DQT3CAT9643,S762HKQ63D962CK82|sv|e|nt|santyclz2:  Slightly less than a 50% slam -- too good for Roland.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Sementa checking the @D suit, for 4@S|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sry,|pg||
nt|ady: was not completely sure to show Q@H    should be confident of a 10 card fit  |pg||
nt|famus: i like their clarity and speed|pg||
nt|hlortz: think usa2 wont miss many slams ... just so they dont bid too may losing ones|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: waterbreak, few minutes|pg||
nt|hlortz: wie break here :)|pg||
nt|hlortz: wine|pg||
nt|ady: anyone know shere USA2 are in the standings?|pg||
nt|famus: is the youner age a factor here David??:)|pg||
nt|hlortz: i have this sticky n key lol|pg||
mb|1C|nt|athene: if it goes just something like 1@S 2@H [gf] 2@S 3@H, then north might find a 4@D cue or something to show a good hand for hearts |pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  North has a monster hand|pg||
nt|gracelin: The Italians can win imps either by overbidding or underbidding.  You have to admire their judgment.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this is why when you are in 2s you draw trumps and claim 3, so you dont do something stupid on the important boards|pg||
nt|ady: nothing nuch on here|pg||
nt|idc: So we have taken just 55 mins to play half the boards at this table, plenty of time left|pg||
nt|jaapfr: open room time problems are expected (only 3,5 boards played in 50 minutes)|pg||
mb|1H!|an|!S|nt|athene: some would overcall 1nt here, but pass looks fine with that shape|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  1@c = 16+|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and indeed Prooyen Verhees also bid it and even made a uptrick|pg||
nt|brolucius: The KR evaluator program seems to take a bizarre valuation of jacks. Roland quoted an example where Q-J doubleton was allocated only 0.75 points, compared with x-x. Seems much too ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: little for me.|pg||
nt|athene: wait till they bid hearts, then double for takeout :)|pg||
nt|gracelin: 1D shows H, as before|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  I doubt Campos, Villas-Boa have ever gotten a slow play warning, much less a penalty!|pg||
nt|hlortz: usa2 started this match in 4th i think|pg||
nt|famus: :) i think they shud ALLOW it--bet- wud improve over all standard:)|pg||
nt|ady: thx for information kibs|pg||
mb|2C|an|no 3!S|nt|kareno: Their system got the bidding too elevated before south could describe his hand.|pg||
nt|antoniz: Walet kier by³ zlokalizowany,wiêc tylko 300|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  1@d = 0-8|pg||
nt|athene: that's the classic recipe for that south hand|pg||
nt|hedyg:  they started 10 minutes later|pg||
nt|famus: at present tying with Netherlands in 2nd spot|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|boedhy:  Apteker was very happy to be in it and played very save..|pg||
nt|rhelle:  1@h = 19+|pg||
nt|rhelle:  2@d = 6-8, balanced|pg||
nt|boedhy:  can they get 6@s in south....|pg||
nt|rhelle:  so any 4333 or 4432|pg||
nt|boedhy:  which is very good|pg||
nt|gracelin: this is the Vul for weak NT.  North is in the range but decisde not to open on 5-4 distribution.|pg||
nt|pelu: 2@h and 3@C sh make - but thats max|pg||
nt|gracelin: when north did not open weak NT or rebid NT, south knows north has an unbalanced hand and should have 5+ clubs|pg||
nt|pelu: China in 2@H in OR|pg||
nt|lechcold: 2@D = kiery|pg||
nt|barnets: 3N|pg||
nt|twcho: The south player, Edgtton, is only 19 years old and is probably the youngest player in this event.|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  2@h = relay|pg||
nt|rhelle:  3@c = 4333 with a 4-card minor|pg||
nt|boedhy:  but the system will let it play in North probably and |pg||
nt|ryskiel_: o jaki ba³wanek siê pojawi³? |pg||
nt|garden2005: faktycznie, akurat chmurka wszed³ po twoich s³owach Rysiu :)|pg||
nt|jkotor: co im siê chyba pomyli³o i Jac myli|pg||
nt|jkotor: bo raczej nie o szlemiku po 1BA przeciwnika?|pg||
nt|morales1: test|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: http://www.bridge.esp.br/player/diegobrenner.php|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: to Jacek wytlumaczyl 2@d jako kara i starszy|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: now versace runs to hearts and north doubles |pg||
nt|athene: but south won't (shouldn't) stick this, surely?|pg||
nt|athene: cue 2@H, check for 44 spades, bid 3nt otherwise|pg||
nt|athene: even though it's nice to go for penalties at this vulnerability, you know opps surely have an 8-card fit|pg||
nt|athene: so defending at the 1-level might well be wrong|pg||
nt|kareno: I'd think not.  His pass of 1@d doubled was likely influenced by the vulnerability.  As it is north was on the thin side of the double and might have eschewed the double of 1@h ...|pg||
nt|kareno: with such thin hearts.|pg||
nt|gracelin: 3NT is not making|pg||
nt|pelu: some work for 9 tricks here, |pg||
nt|gracelin: and as usual, Bocchi judged correct;y to stop in 3C|pg||
nt|barnets: looks ok to me|pg||
nt|idc: E-W task here to stop in time, since 4@s is as high as you'd want to get|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Brasilian player as a rule tend to be very fast.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: sad pics on the news, the south island of NZ is under flood waters|pg||
pc|s2|nt|brolucius: On this hand, East may have upgraded his hand to 18 points, with two tens that accompany other honours, and two 4-card suits.|pg||
nt|pelu: difficult lead for East|pg||
nt|gracelin: yes, but with Bocchi beind the wheel, I thk he can hold his loss to at most 4 tricks.|pg||
nt|ady: looks though they are heading for game|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: fast play --> fast dinner|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 4 b 40 minutes then:)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: ty|pg||
nt|ady: will knock out A@C  and likely 11 tricks|pg||
nt|jaapfr: oefff 2@SX+1|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: http://www.bridge.esp.br/player/marcelobranco.php|pg||
nt|jkotor: ale z Kysiem to Jac gra³, ¿e to 4@d i 5+stary|pg||
nt|kit: Same 3@C call as made at other table.  I don't understand it.  It seem like game very unlikely opposite mere 2@C rebid.|pg||
pc|sA|nt|rhelle:  3@d = relay|pg||
nt|rhelle:  3@s = 3-3-4-3|pg||
nt|rhelle:  as South promises at least 1 control (a king), the North hand is now looking pretty good|pg||
nt|boedhy:  then 6@s is is a little better then 50% because you can guess the @d and on a @d or non @d lead you get info|pg||
nt|brolucius: Had he opened 1NT, which I assume shows 15-17, West would doubtless have stayed low. |pg||
nt|santyclz: Changing the 10,8 to the q,j on the hand above yields 17.5 points, still low but more reasonable.|pg||
nt|kit: Note that Weinstein didn't even search for a 5-3 spade fit.  He judged that with 3-3 in hearts and clubs it was very unlikely that spades would take 2 more tricks than notrump, ...|pg||
nt|kit: which would be needed for 4@S to significantly gain over 3NT.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Excellent point.|pg||
nt|yke:  3NT is questionable to me. with a 5-3 fit you should play in spades when the long spades is the weak hand and in NT when the long spades is the strong hand|pg||
nt|yke:  because you might not be able to enjoy the long spades because of the entries|pg||
nt|kit: with AQx of clubs, there is no entry problem to the long spades|pg||
nt|yke:  good point|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Einarsson had a lot of water and now he goes to the toilet|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Amazing!  @ss are only 4-1 not 5-0.|pg||
nt|twcho: a trump lead will probably set the contract|pg||
pc|s3|nt|kit: At matchpoints there would be more incentive to look for a 5-3 spade fit, since making 1 extra trick in spades is worth something.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: after laying down his cards|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|rhelle:  ah! a variation :)|pg||
nt|rhelle:  3@s is a strong 1-suiter, |pg||
nt|gracelin: even with this lead, if declarer is to ruff spade, he might lose a 2nd trump trick.|pg||
nt|pelu: some cross-ruffing af 9 tricks now - even play for 10|pg||
nt|gracelin: so likely there are still 9 tricks|pg||
nt|barnets: def have no tricks|pg||
nt|ady: the lay out is friendlt|pg||
nt|barnets: 2 clubs one spade|pg||
nt|barnets: one heart or 1 diamond should make|pg||
nt|jaapfr: re:)|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|rhelle:  although why North wants to play a @s contract himself is a mystery to me|pg||
nt|boedhy:  well South africa has bid it and made it|pg||
nt|barnets: same contract in other room|pg||
pc|c5|nt|rhelle:  4@c is a cue|pg||
nt|twcho: now declarer may succeed by ruffing three rounds of @s in dummy|pg||
nt|famus: -1|pg||
pc|c3|nt|idc: With the preempt, declarer not likely to take 2 club finesses through South, and also likely to get trumps right|pg||
nt|jkotor: tu jest odwrotnie, wiêc co kto pomyli³ (3@h wygl¹da na "mam 33+ stare do 5+ partnera")|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|ady: both 3NT  23 hcp|pg||
pc|s7|nt|idc: but still some work to do|pg||
nt|twcho: running score can be found at http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: or the short version http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|twcho: :)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|c9|pg||
nt|boedhy:  now...... sign of or low @d lead...|pg||
nt|rhelle:  ai ... North may pass 4@s now|pg||
nt|lechcold: nietrafnie Grzegorz|pg||
pc|c4|nt|rhelle:  I still think North would have done better to keep relay'ing|pg||
nt|brolucius: West at the other table did try to cash two spades against 5@S doubled and allowed the game to be made. |pg||
nt|athene: i suppose one down against 4@S making in the other room|pg||
nt|kareno: That heart five in north could possibly have been promoted to a trick with persistence in diamonds after cashing clubs.  The play is complex|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: very quick @H9|pg||
nt|athene: he is thinking that if he doesn't overtake this and cash the @DK for a spade pitch, the defence can draw trumps and cash two spades|pg||
nt|kareno: In that case the nine was a poor choice because it opens him to the promotion.|pg||
nt|athene: but the trick comes back for the defence with a trump promotion in diamonds anyway|pg||
nt|athene: well, he is always losing out one way or another - even if he didn't waste the nine, the defence can prevail|pg||
nt|athene: for example on a diamond if he can ruff high north can pitch a club and get a club ruff with the @H5|pg||
nt|idc: West won't be expecting a doubleton heart on his left, which might be the surprise that dooms this contract|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Particularly when s shows up with @h length.|pg||
nt|kit: Not much can happen here -- 5 unavoidable losers.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|nt|garden2005: Kuma kamufluje -1100 i nas zagaduje|pg||
mc|8|nt|rhelle:  but, let's be honest, it's a marginal slam. Around 50%, so staying out of it is no shame|pg||
nt|pelu: @C9 8 7 6 are strong ruffs|pg||
nt|gracelin: east has doubled 1C, so he doesn't have a singleton HK.|pg||
nt|gracelin: now ruffing finesse in spade is the safe route|pg||
nt|gracelin: if instead, going to dummy with HQ and play another trump, West can win CK and play D to force declare losing control.|pg||
nt|barnets: with 4 tens and 3 nines though :)|pg||
nt|barnets: very nice intermediate spot cards|pg||
nt|ady: it is possible to mis guess spade|pg||
nt|garden2005: Kuba* ... no taki Kubu, Jakub|pg||
nt|jkotor: nie dzieje siê dobrze jak kto zapomina pierwsz¹ odzywkê (wejcie po 1BA)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: chwila przerwy, S wyszedl do toalety|pg||
nt|jkotor: w drugim 1100 siê wydarzy³o, ale 1BA systemowo 14-16, a potem pechowa ucieczka|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: little break, Madala not feeling very well|pg||
nt|psyck:  Running Scores: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
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qx|o26|st||md|4SKHAKJ98DT3CQT762,SAJ76H4DQ9652C854,SQT953HT52DK874C9,S842HQ763DAJCAKJ3|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|2C!|an|!C + major|mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|100dog: 2@C da conventio @C/@H|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|gluckenval: si, fiori ed 1 Maggiore|pg||
nt|remo: l'attacco atout dovrebbe tenerlo a 7 prese|pg||
pc|d2|nt|100dog: anche il ritorno|pg||
nt|100dog: per farle dovrebbe giocare fiori e picche in simultanea :)|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|100dog: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=881|pg||
pc|h6|nt|100dog: per vedere i risultati e le classifiche LIVE|pg||
pc|hA|pc|d6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|hT|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|s5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|s6|pc|d8|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h9|mc|6|pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4SKHAKJ98DT3CQT762,SAJ76H4DQ9652C854,SQT953HT52DK874C9,S842HQ763DAJCAKJ3|sv|b|nt|rhelle:  althouh advertised, still a nice lead|pg||
nt|barnets: well done in both rooms|pg||
nt|twcho: Weinstein has timed his play accurately without any danger of going down|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 1st flat board since the 3 we started with|pg||
nt|famus: shud b  apush|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes 5@c ood cheap insurance|pg||
nt|hlortz: /good/|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: OK we are back in the game|pg||
mb|1N!|mb|2H!|an|!H+minor|mb|p|mb|p|nt|boedhy:  true|pg||
nt|boedhy:  two times|pg||
nt|boedhy:  three times|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Wijs could know that relaying would keep his hand hidden from opps|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and can he find out a @d control that way Rob?|pg||
nt|rhelle:  yes, he could|pg||
nt|rhelle:  this is why I'm surprised|pg||
nt|kit: Easy to reach slam here it looks like -- South can just take control|pg||
nt|rensph:  hi all|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: interesting decision for south now|pg||
nt|athene: pass, 3nt, 4@H, double?|pg||
nt|kareno: I doubt south can double for penalty which is no doubt what he would want to do.|pg||
nt|antoniz: szlemiczek na impasie,zobaczymy|pg||
nt|idc: borderline slam hand this|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: system systemem ale takie 4 króle i dam bez wsparcia mog³oby sk³oniæ do zdewaluowania rêki czy¿ nie tak?|pg||
nt|kit: E-W play 12-14 1NT -- Martel chose to downgrade his hand.|pg||
pc|d5|nt|santyclz2:  Looks like another 6@hs available.|pg||
nt|famus: till now this match has gone very fast speed|pg||
pc|d4|nt|kareno: My choice under the circumstances would probably be the losing 3nt.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: back live|pg||
nt|hedyg:  :)|pg||
nt|gulyas: welcome back everyone|pg||
nt|hedyg:  2@s is a position..you might bid 2@d and pass pd's bid|pg||
nt|ady: this is the fastest gamed I have seen for a long time   10th hand in around 45 minutes|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|fabsayc: declarer will need to guess the hearts|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2NT is just marked as strong raise on the cards, but must be GF or South would not have bid just 3@H. |pg||
nt|santyclz: One of the few hands where blackwood answers all your questions.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Most players use it as game-forcing rather than 'limit or better'.|pg||
nt|kareno: If west leads that tempting diamond it is all over for south.|pg||
nt|athene: well 3nt hasn't got many tricks even if the @DQ isn't found|pg||
nt|kareno: Actually 3nt is doomed anyway but the diamond makes it quicker :)|pg||
pc|h3|nt|fabsayc: the main clue being north will already have shown two aces|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  6@ss fails on a @c lead.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: system say 5 card major ask GF'|pg||
nt|kit: Good shift by Martel.  He can see that declarer, known to have a minor, needs to ruff clubs in dummy.|pg||
pc|hA|nt|boedhy:  south difficult decision now|pg||
nt|rhelle:  he didn't seem to think it was that hard :)|pg||
nt|boedhy:  first double?|pg||
nt|rhelle:  penalties, no doubt - 16+|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: West did not alert 2@C, thinks natural|pg||
nt|boedhy:  second double still take out|pg||
nt|rhelle:  2nd is take-out|pg||
nt|idc: N-S play a (mostly) game-forcing 2/1|pg||
nt|idc: and no doubt the sequence to 3@h will be forcing|pg||
nt|idc: South has bid this as a minimum opener with little slam interest, so North may give up now|pg||
pc|h4|nt|kiwibridge: and what if the answer showed @S|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|gulyas: W has a tough lead|pg||
nt|gulyas: needs to avoid leading a @D to beat this|pg||
nt|hedyg:  might lead @s|pg||
nt|gulyas: that could work|pg||
pc|c2|nt|gracelin: 2D is a safer contract than 1NT which can be set with 3S, 3C and a H.  Bocchi made a great lead to pave the way for a successful defense.|pg||
nt|idc: Had South tried a courtesy cue bid of 4@d (as he might) then I think they would have gone on|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  After 2 boards with good chances for USA, one with a chance for Brasil.|pg||
nt|gulyas: anything but a @D really:)|pg||
nt|famus: @C double hook gives him 9|pg||
pc|c5|nt|boedhy:  2@c minors|pg||
nt|rhelle:  oh, that lead will make EW trump short|pg||
nt|rhelle:  and if then NS play 3 rounds of trumps, the roof will come down|pg||
nt|boedhy:  this will be disaster for EW|pg||
nt|rhelle:  especially as the West hand is dummy, so the defence is much easier that way|pg||
nt|boedhy:  yes|pg||
nt|boedhy:  the fact that he could lead the @s ten|pg||
nt|pelu: what a lead|pg||
nt|jaapfr: @D lead very unlikely imo|pg||
pc|c9|nt|rensph:  quiet 1NT for EW here, diamonds break 4-4 so will end up with 6 tricks for defense|pg||
nt|gracelin: admittedly, he has no good lead with his hand.  He'd rather attack dummy's suit than declarer's suit.|pg||
nt|gracelin: south thinks to overtake and shift if north leads from doubleton K10, south has no entry to eastablish his spade anyway.|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|hlortz: so did we lose the comparisons hen we crashed earlier?|pg||
nt|famus: @s|pg||
pc|h6|nt|pelu: in OR @H-lead from N - and easy make|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: W pokazal 4333 10-13|pg||
nt|kit: seems like declarer might have been better off setting up a sure spade trick.|pg||
pc|hK|nt|boedhy:  now he will try to ruff a @d|pg||
nt|boedhy:  so close to 6 tricks...|pg||
nt|kit: If Weinstein chooses to lead from a king he will lead clubs, since no double of 5@S|pg||
nt|santyclz: What a waste of a hand, a good relay pair could use 11 rounds of bidding to get to the same contract.|pg||
nt|kit: But the passive lead reasonable, and now declarer takes them all|pg||
nt|gracelin: but he allows Bocchi to have led from K10x.  He must have seen it before.|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer can duck this as well and defenders still need to defend carefull to ge all their trics.|pg||
nt|famus: wht a lead Bocchi made--amazing|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h5|pg||
nt|brolucius: Well, I am back after an alarming computer crash. All is OK again, thank goodness. Did I miss anything good? |pg||
nt|barnets: yes|pg||
nt|ady: yes   quite a lot of intersting hands|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|nt|idc: though as I said, it is borderline: a @c lead might doom it on a different layout, or hearts both wrong, or @s suit not coming in|pg||
pc|hT|pc|c3|pg||
nt|ady: but dont lose a spade   if gives spade ruff   then diamond finesse to discard spade|pg||
pc|s3|nt|famus: oops sry|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
nt|ady: looks 1 too high|pg||
nt|famus: small@C|pg||
pc|d2|nt|athene: ok so as suggested, in the other room the tricky slam was found|pg||
nt|kareno: I use 2@c for strong hands and after intervention, I play that double by the direct hand shows extreme weakness.  That would have worked well in this case.|pg||
nt|athene: on board 8|pg||
pc|d7|nt|boedhy:  still best to play 3times @c now|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|pg||
nt|gulyas: @D thru now|pg||
nt|famus: and cash out @d end of story|pg||
pc|cK|nt|twcho: not sure this hand better playing in 4@h than 3N even east has 5 cards in @H|pg||
nt|jaapfr: he will|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|nt|athene: after 1@S 2@H 2@S 3@H, north found 4@C, a cue for hearts|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|rhelle:  you ask, Simon obliges|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and there it is|pg||
nt|kit: and 3 more tricks for the defense, for a push|pg||
mc|6|nt|jkotor: ³adny ³omot dostajemy|pg||
nt|garden2005: jest odbitka|pg||
nt|antoniz: s³aba gra i pech id¹ w parze,smutna prawda|pg||
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qx|o27|st||md|1SQT42H7D86CAKJ873,SKJ53HAT543DJ4CQ6,S9876H82DAK75CT52,SAHKQJ96DQT932C94|sv|o|nt|remo: manche in EO, senza speranze|pg||
nt|nemeo: e qui per la webcam sul tavolo: http://www.wkbridge2011.com/en/live|pg||
nt|100dog: ci sono 9 squadra in 10 punti in lotta per 7/8 posto|pg||
nt|figb_rama: Purtroppo pessime notizie dal femminile. A metà incontro siamo sotto 28-0 con l'Olanda e scivoliamo così all'11° posto, sebbene a soli 3 vp dall'8°|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2N|mb|3S|nt|alnanda: /|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|nemeo: 2SA appoggio a cuori invitante o meglio|pg||
pc|dA|nt|debc: Paoluzi/Golin hanno segnato 670 alla 26...:)|pg||
nt|figb_rama: ciao Debora|pg||
nt|figb_rama: 670 qualcosa si dovrebbe recuperare|pg||
nt|debc: salve|pg||
nt|djneill:  Levin-Weinstein card: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%201/levin-weinstein.pdf|pg||
nt|djneill:  Duboin-Sementa card: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/duboin-sementa.pdf|pg||
nt|slothy: about females|pg||
nt|slothy: sorry...|pg||
nt|100dog: come mai tutto fermo ?|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1SQT42H7D86CAKJ873,SKJ53HAT543DJ4CQ6,S9876H82DAK75CT52,SAHKQJ96DQT932C94|sv|o|nt|vugraphznt: Director came in to warn they have 40 min. left|pg||
nt|vasanti: .|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  1 pitch is all he needed from the @ss.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: South said: i had only 7 but a very good 7..|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and said EW still had to lead|pg||
nt|jaapfr: lol|pg||
nt|famus: http://www.wkbridge2011.com/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|famus: for results--thnks George |pg||
mb|1C|nt|rensph:  looks like some excellent slams available for NS here, as long as N plays|pg||
nt|idc: Since N-S play 12-14 NT, the 2NT may not be minimum of course|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: we have 6 to go|pg||
nt|twcho: another pedestrian 3NT|pg||
nt|garden2005: dobitka niestety|pg||
mb|1H|nt|kit: play was exactly the same in other room.  It sure doesn't feel right to me.|pg||
mb|d!|an|4 or 5!S|nt|ady: last 1 down1 for a push  |pg||
mb|4H|nt|garden2005: prawda, ¿e az sie pisac nie chce? :(|pg||
nt|kit: Pretty hard to stay out of 4@H now -- but N-S might not quit bidding.|pg||
mb|4S|nt|rhelle:  3NT + 1 is quite a nice result from the other table|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 1@H shows spades|pg||
nt|idc: In a 2/1 system I always like 2NT to be the 'bucket bid', were all the poorish hands go|pg||
nt|gulyas: @Hs could have been 3-3, or @HT falling|pg||
mb|p|nt|rensph:  south will show a strong hand with diamonds which should get north excited enough to try for slam|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: DBL = take-out of @ss|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: muszê zajrzeæ do Kantara - on co pisa³ o ilu kalafiorach w jednej grz¹dce...mo¿e kto pamiêta?|pg||
nt|hlortz: ah i see we are about 5 boards ahead of OR|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: yes the open room started about 15 minutes after we did cause of the live vu-graph|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznt: Nice tool, 3@D by lauria would be very good overcall in @S, perhaps more|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: RDBL = 3@ss|pg||
nt|hedyg:  but his very good 7 was shown in the 2@s bid already, 4@s was too much imo|pg||
mb|5H|nt|rhelle:  1NT = relay|pg||
nt|brolucius: East perhaps hopes to be able to redbi 3@D, to show that hand.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: given their light openings getting the chance to play 1@S may be an advantage|pg||
nt|twcho: east may probe for slam while west will reject at every opportunity|pg||
nt|gulyas: he was vul, thats all he neeeded:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: East: @D fit,  and then 0@C ah|pg||
mb|p|nt|rensph:  I'm not sure I agree with 5@D here|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  2@c = @c|pg||
nt|twcho: 2@d is GF checkback|pg||
nt|hlortz: thx|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|gracelin: Wonder how 6C was made at closed room.  Seems the bad break in spades will sink it.  SA and spade will surely beat it.|pg||
nt|barnets: grandslam here|pg||
nt|brolucius: 4@C show at least a sound raise to 4@H and promises nothing so far as a club control is concerned.|pg||
nt|barnets: bid in poland sweden match|pg||
nt|brolucius: South's redouble shows a club control.|pg||
nt|barnets: by sweden for swing|pg||
nt|lechcold: jeli teraz zatrzymaj¹ siê w 4@D to....|pg||
nt|famus: @SQ perhaps is the right card|pg||
mb|p|nt|rensph:  They did manage to avoid 6@D but I believe south could've cuebid over 4@D|pg||
nt|twcho: nothing about @d|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  2@d = relay|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Muller is known for his slow play |pg||
nt|rhelle:  3@d = 3-1-5-4 exacty|pg||
nt|kit: 2@D by Bobby would not be natural -- however, 2@S shows invite values|pg||
nt|brolucius: Madala will now hope for the best in trumps, I guess, and pot 6@H.|pg||
nt|kit: Martel fails to take his plus score -- big swing on his decision.|pg||
pc|dK|nt|brolucius: What would he bid with 7-8 and a doubleton spade?|pg||
nt|kit: he would bid 2@H, transfer to 2@S|pg||
nt|brolucius: I see. It is good to have such accurate methods.|pg||
nt|gracelin: NS conducted a Gazzilli auction here.|pg||
nt|gracelin: 2C is normal response to forcing 1NT or any 16-17 up hand, 2D is 8 p and GF|pg||
nt|twcho: 2@h shows 3 cards in @h|pg||
nt|twcho: 2@s is probably natural|pg||
nt|twcho: and 2N deny 4 cards in @s|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: no alert for 2@S|pg||
nt|twcho: tks|pg||
nt|hlortz: easy game Q@C falling nicely|pg||
pc|d2|nt|boedhy:  and 40 minutes for 6 boards is not much...|pg||
nt|brolucius: For the past few weeks I have been doing voice commentary instead of tap-in commentary. It is good to see that I can still type OK. |pg||
nt|santyclz2:  That has the benefit of a rebid of opener's suit showing 6.  Using the rebid of opener's suit as the |pg||
nt|idc: The 2@s bid in this sequence is invitational, 5-cards @s and unbalanced|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
nt|barnets: 5@S was a fine bid by south|pg||
nt|barnets: holding just J high trumps|pg||
nt|barnets: he kept a grandslam option open|pg||
nt|brolucius: I wouldn't have risked it with those trumps!|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 5@S was less serious try then 5NT|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: than|pg||
nt|brolucius: Many thanks to Bob for the bidding explanations. How they find time for it, as well as putting in all the bids and plays, I will never know.|pg||
nt|ady: what is best lone in 7    ruff 4 clubs in south hand?|pg||
nt|barnets: with such good trumps perhaps north should have accepted the invitation to the party|pg||
nt|twcho: OK, east decide that slam is quite far-stretching and simply end the auction by bidding 3NT|pg||
pc|c2|nt|boedhy:  luckly easy 3nt..|pg||
nt|barnets: the key to bidding many slams is who has control of the high trumps|pg||
nt|barnets: north knows his partner has invited a grand slam|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  "bucket bid" is another popular method.|pg||
nt|idc: And I don't think it implies holding hearts as well as the spades|pg||
nt|ady: now can beat this|pg||
nt|hlortz: ah a safety play|pg||
nt|famus: going down cud b a big swing|pg||
pc|c4|nt|pelu: East (Sementa) lead @sA - but then in trick 2 @DA :(:(|pg||
nt|famus: cud b a swing|pg||
nt|gracelin: I don't blame him.  He was looking at his 2 Aces, and these Chinese did bid slam off 2 Aces before.|pg||
nt|barnets: and he has AKQ of trumps|pg||
nt|twcho: just a matter of overtricks|pg||
nt|hlortz: they stayed ouy of trouble|pg||
nt|twcho: yes, even 4NT is not cold|pg||
nt|twcho: the 1@c opening has dissuaded north from leading his stronger minor|pg||
nt|twcho: and this lead immediately give declarer the 9th trick|pg||
pc|cK|nt|pelu: so 11 to 14 IMP on way for China|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|famus: may be--cant say till it ends|pg||
nt|gracelin: As north has not shown his 6th spade here, East may not find the killing defense.  However, without cashing SA, I thk 6C is still in trouble.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: he has shown 6sp and 4H already|pg||
nt|pelu: will S pass to 4@s?|pg||
nt|gracelin: don;t thk North will ass, South has shown 8+|pg||
nt|ady: not enough entries to ruff 4 clubs|pg||
nt|brolucius: You can see how important the 4@C bid was set the slam ball rolling. If you could only bid 4@C with a club control, it would be a tricky time for North.|pg||
pc|cA|nt|brolucius: The advantage of doing the tap-in commentary is that you have a split second to check whether your comment is completely stupid before you press enter.|pg||
nt|kit: yes, but then when you do say something stupid you look so bad :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Against that, some duff comment is preserved for posterity on the VuGraph web-sites. If you say something clueless, no-one records it and you can hope that the spectators thought ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: you were joking.  |pg||
nt|ady: no safety   3 hearts 1 spade and 1 club|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|boedhy:  still @h stop|pg||
nt|gracelin: pass|pg||
pc|c5|nt|rensph:  North might very well have bid 6NT after discovering @SA and the lack of a club stopper in partner's hand|pg||
nt|famus: he knows 11@s|pg||
nt|hlortz: but could be UNsafety play|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|ady: ruffing 3 diamonds in runs risk of 10@H making for defence   I think small slam is enough|pg||
nt|kit: some suggest West should have doubled 4@S -- but the 4@H call might have been a lot weaker since it is preemptive|pg||
pc|d8|nt|jaapfr: what about N to X 2@C?|pg||
nt|ady: not now|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|brolucius: "He writes books about bridge, he can't possible be that stupid..."|pg||
nt|kit: Weinstein handled the spade suit quite effectively|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|barnets: on this hand the @DKQ fall in 3 rounds|pg||
nt|barnets: so dec needs only ruff 2 diamnds|pg||
nt|barnets: but that is fortunate|pg||
nt|ady: but grand slam not good enough |pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, that's right.|pg||
nt|barnets: and the practical odds is close but maybe not enough|pg||
mc|9|nt|twcho: a tie bd|pg||
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qx|o28|st||md|2SQ73H9832D74CK864,ST54HAT6DJ965CJ52,SK62H54DAKQT3CAT7,SAJ98HKQJ7D82CQ93|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d6|nt|nemeo: comunque nella mano con 4 perdenti sull'attacco di là gli americani giocano 5 @h contrate|pg||
nt|bafieri: ma che succede?|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2SQ73H9832D74CK864,ST54HAT6DJ965CJ52,SK62H54DAKQT3CAT7,SAJ98HKQJ7D82CQ93|sv|n|nt|athene: tut tut, lauria not paying attention|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: he says sorry and sigh's   but with a little smile :)|pg||
nt|pelu: and here NS will hope for a win on this board - for sure not losing 11 IMP|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: talking about system|pg||
nt|brolucius: West might have led a singleton spade, so J-9-x-x with East was not so likely.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: claimed 6,  agreed making 7 afterwards|pg||
nt|brolucius: I wonder if they are running into time trouble.|pg||
nt|hlortz: dull bring back the goulash hands :)|pg||
nt|ady: north opposite a passed hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: South never counts tricks, he thought down 3, they said, same as Bocchi.. :) he said if you start dbling i will start paying attention|pg||
nt|ady: could have played 1 top clu though and then returned with a diamond to then ake a view 2nd round|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|kareno: Yes he had a winkle|pg||
nt|famus: yeh that wud b my line|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: 3@D better than double on that shape.|pg||
nt|gracelin: indeed.|pg||
nt|idc: We heard a comment at the table earlier that 'spades are always 5-0', so I guess this 4-1 counts as a favourable break|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: i double versace passed 1nt|pg||
nt|athene: i doubt :)|pg||
nt|rensph:  W might be tempted to bid a thin game here, but it's NV so might very well pass this|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz: So much for 3nt by n...|pg||
nt|kit: 4@C a little scary -- Weinstein thinks opponents might have a slam.|pg||
nt|pelu: but a problem for NS that they never found their 5-3 fit in @c|pg||
nt|lechcold: transfer na kolor wroga to Stayman|pg||
nt|ady: light opening from west|pg||
nt|hlortz: his was more tactical than technical imo he decided if he lost a @C right away def would be harder|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|athene: but many would just bid 3nt rather than use stayman|pg||
pc|h2|nt|santyclz2:  And onside too!|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: as they were in bd. 9 ;)|pg||
nt|idc: Can't find 2NT on CC|pg||
nt|jaapfr: lollllllllll|pg||
nt|famus: cud well b--agree|pg||
pc|h6|nt|gulyas: :)|pg||
nt|ady: 9 tricks it would seem in hearts|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|idc: if it asks for short suits, that 3@c will encourage him|pg||
nt|lechcold: 3BA to idealny kontrakt w tym rozdaniu..4@H mo¿na przegraæ|pg||
pc|h7|nt|brolucius: 5@D was a sensible option by North. Some would bid 5@C, claiming that they couldn't be any better for a passed hand. But South only made a simple overcall.|pg||
nt|brolucius: The VuGraph records are saved in various repositories (one is Nikos Sarantakos's VuGraph Project), so we can look up how other teams bid and made 7@H.|pg||
nt|ady: was worn out by then|pg||
nt|idc: But then if that is a return short suit try, South will be discouraged|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: E thinks|pg||
pc|h9|nt|rensph:  Creative approach by W - had east shown a 5card major he'd be ok with that, too|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this contract is touch and go, good guess in diamonds may see it home|pg||
nt|idc: ahha, am told 3@c is forced relay, then opener makes short suit try|pg||
nt|ady: may get too high|pg||
nt|famus: 6@s does come home --i think|pg||
pc|hA|nt|gracelin: They may end up in 2S with the Gazzilli.|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|kit: He could be a lot better as a passed hand.  Stiff in a major.  Queen of clubs someplace else.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes.|pg||
nt|gracelin: All othe bids by south will show the strong hand|pg||
nt|gracelin: this is one disadvantage of the Gazzilli.|pg||
nt|gracelin: this time he has a very healthy 5-card suit.  North is worry south ma bid the same way with a much weak 5-card suit.|pg||
nt|kit: Martel knows declarer doesn't have A10x of hearts or first trick wouldn't have been ducked, so continuing hearts is safe.|pg||
nt|kit: And he had to lead low, since Stansby might have started with ace-doubleton.|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ady: no top losers here  but 6@S may prove difficult with 4-1 split   |pg||
nt|ritong: he briefly considered a @s J switch|pg||
nt|kit: no need for that, since if Stansby has king of spades the jack of spades shift can come later.|pg||
pc|dA|nt|fabsayc: ?|pg||
nt|jkotor: seniorzy taryfa w plecy na Duñczyków, tylko panie dobrze w tej rundzie|pg||
pc|d2|nt|fluffy: my limited understanding of gazilli says that 2@c is either nat or 16-18, 2@d is 8+ any, and 2@s shows spades and clubs minimum|pg||
nt|gracelin: sout may pass 1NT with 12-13 pts in order not to be involved in the Gazzilli.  But with 14 he fears losing game if north has 10-11, even a passed hand.|pg||
nt|gracelin: south|pg||
nt|idc: Stansby declines the game-try but 4@c leaves North a different problem|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|jaapfr: oeffff|pg||
nt|ritong: thus he sticked on @hs|pg||
pc|dK|nt|vugraphznt: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|fabsayc: actually this strange looking play is quite good|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: for running scores|pg||
nt|fabsayc: saving spade king for a late discard|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  As long as the x isn't takeout.|pg||
nt|idc: His dbl looks sensible|pg||
nt|famus: ya-4-@s stops it and a top @C ruff|pg||
pc|d8|nt|fluffy: the reason why south bid 2@c instead of passing 1NT is that he might be facing an 11 point balanced hand|pg||
nt|gracelin: you are quite right.|pg||
nt|ady: dont think they can get out for less than 2hearts and eventually 2 diamonds|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: West showed 6-8 with red suits|pg||
pc|d7|nt|jaapfr: ty but then E 3@H not 4@H Gerbrand?|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|ady: that lead made it easier|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|rensph:  N missed a chance to give partner 2 ruffs there, now it looks like 3@D is making|pg||
nt|hedyg:  surely a direct 3@d over 2@H would have been gf and this was a slight invite|pg||
pc|s8|nt|fluffy: but normally 2@s is with 4 clubs|pg||
nt|gracelin: EW play a very natural system and use standard sugnals|pg||
nt|gracelin: signals|pg||
pc|h3|nt|kareno: I use two-way stayman and with game values, I do always check.  That my hand is balanced (4333) doesn't mean partner's is also the same, particularly with the modern tendency to ...|pg||
nt|kareno: open a lot of 5/4 hands 1nt.|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|d3|nt|kareno: So the auction, say, 1nt - 2@d (gfs) - 2@s - 3@s offers a choice of contract.|pg||
nt|rensph:  declarer will have to choose between finessing in clubs or spades|pg||
nt|idc: I think I like the logic behind SOuth's lead: partner has short hearts so where are E-W tricks coming from except ruffs, so lead a trump|pg||
pc|c9|pc|h8|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|boedhy:  this is close|pg||
nt|rhelle:  yes, one or two good decisions required|pg||
nt|boedhy:  needs to play @d|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and as Muller is playing it will take some time|pg||
nt|boedhy:  then he will play @d offcourse|pg||
nt|rhelle:  indeed- if only to get information how to play @ss|pg||
nt|kit: Declarer has nervous moments -- feels a lot better with king of hearts onside|pg||
nt|gracelin: after the HK lead, the H10 is irrevelent|pg||
pc|s4|nt|gulyas: nice invention/convention:)|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sA|nt|rensph:  ...unless defense solves this problem for him|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|gracelin: the D shift deceived declarer, playing D strength with E|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Or, as Papi says:  "You need a reason *not* to lead trumps".|pg||
nt|idc: At the vulnerability East wanted to suggest a 5@c sac to his partner, hence the 4@c bid|pg||
nt|idc: If any blame is to be awarded, West's dbl perhaps deserves it (though -300 instead of -140 no disaster)|pg||
pc|hK|pc|c4|nt|pelu: thats a mistake by S - sh take @DA and play 3x@s|pg||
nt|hlortz: 1 imp if he makes 4|pg||
pc|hT|nt|kit: Now will strip out hearts and clubs, and then try to duck a spade to West|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|brolucius: By eliminating the side suits, he can survive when East holds @SQ-x.|pg||
nt|hedyg:  Sementa decided his hand was worth game in @H, covered the black losers, nice @H fit and Kx in @d look pretty good|pg||
pc|c6|nt|gracelin: instead of taking 2 D tricks, Madala takes none by this defense.  He is not headed for -2|pg||
nt|idc: USA avoided the slam on failing finesse on Bd 8, so their lead up to 21 IMPs|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3S62HQ852DA8CAQ742,SJTHAKJ963D4CJT93,SKQ9853HDKJT93C86,SA74HT74DQ7652CK5|sv|b|nt|toniemme: ciao a tutti|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|cumino: Di là su 1@H CONTRO ha dichiarato 4@H malamente, così su 4@S di madala W è passato non sapendo da che veniva 4@H. A questo punto ne ha detti 5 colla 55|pg||
mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|zanna9: ciao a tutti|pg||
mb|4D!|nt|cumino: Alla 27|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|100dog: slam fortunosos qui|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|debc: anche nel senior Italia/Guadaloupe 300 e 300 a 5@h contrate, mano pari|pg||
nt|remo: speriamo che i nostri non lo chiamino, neh|pg||
nt|debc: alla 27 ovvio|pg||
nt|gluckenval: l'attacco è senz'altro interessante|pg||
nt|100dog: attacco sotto K secondo di toni vogliono proprio devastarli psicologicamente :)|pg||
nt|toniemme: attaccano in conto rovesciato?|pg||
nt|nemeo: quello che non vorresti mai vedere quando hai qualche decina di allievi in kib... :)|pg||
nt|nemeo: saltato anche il collegamento con la webcam|pg||
nt|toniemme: potrebbe andare sotto a 4@S ......particolarmente ispirato Sem...))))|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg||
nt|gluckenval: oggi la connessione è in fibra di caciotta...|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
nt|zanna9: Levin-Weistein si dice sia la coppia nel miglior momento di forma e sembrano avere un alto grado di miglioramento...io non ho seguito l'incontro,hanno rispettato queste voci?|pg||
nt|cuan: no|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|nt|cuan: bell'attacchino di toni|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d8|mc|10|nt|100dog: almeno in questo segmento hanno mostrato qualche limite dichiarativo e sono stati  poco aggressivi|pg||
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qx|c29|st||md|3S62HQ852DA8CAQ742,SJTHAKJ963D4CJT93,SKQ9853HDKJT93C86,SA74HT74DQ7652CK5|sv|b|nt|brolucius: Yes, good defence.  did not want to be caught giving a ruff-and-discard on the second round of spades|pg||
nt|athene: after 1@S - 1NT, how many clubs?|pg||
nt|athene: i bet he bids just two|pg||
nt|famus: in 6 i think he might well lead a @S|pg||
mb|1S|nt|rhelle:  2@c = 11-15, 6+@c|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: NS do play 1@S - 2@D as hears|pg||
nt|rensph:  other table reached 3N and made it, so 7 imps to South Africa|pg||
nt|hlortz: that will beat it --i think|pg||
mb|2C!|an|GF|nt|boedhy:  south will bid 3nt|pg||
nt|rhelle:  2@d = relay|pg||
nt|athene: hearts|pg||
nt|kareno: Two - no need to preempt with a solid opening bid.|pg||
nt|gracelin: China has another chance here, 6S is cold|pg||
nt|fluffy: not your everyday vulnerable preempt|pg||
nt|fluffy: 6@s is far from cold requiers a good guess i ntrumps or in the minors|pg||
nt|gracelin: in Italy they say Vulnerability is for children and Bocchi is no children.|pg||
nt|fluffy: normally you should gues trumps, but you are not entry rich to dummy|pg||
mb|2H|nt|athene: but they won't use the bid with this hand|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  W bids 4@d before n can.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 3 1's to Aus with a flat inbetween each|pg||
nt|ady: e/w   have around 9 tricks in clubs|pg||
nt|famus: probly xfer to NT|pg||
nt|ady: 3NT looks like the stopping place for e/w|pg||
mb|3D|an| |nt|rhelle:  2NT = balanced|pg||
nt|kit: This is as flat a 4@H hand as you will find, it sppears.|pg||
nt|hlortz: and denies 4@S since o neg dbl perhaps|pg||
mb|p|nt|idc: I once made a weak jump on 7 to AK in diamonds, quite proud of it until my '@h'Q turned out to be a missorted diamond|pg||
nt|idc: a weak jump on AKQxxxxx was consider over-sound by my peers|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  q10xxx in the midnight swiss...|pg||
nt|hlortz: /no/|pg||
mb|3N|nt|fluffy: aat least with the club opening he will guess clubs|pg||
nt|pelu: Shi didnt dare to cue 4@d|pg||
nt|gracelin: guess Lian will move on|pg||
nt|pelu: but Lian still looking for slam|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: he had taken a bid but took it back|pg||
nt|idc: and 'weak-jump' became my nickname for a while (till I did something even worse)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 6@d = 500|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: this doesnt look right|pg||
nt|ady: cant get there now|pg||
nt|ady: may make 3@D |pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  (no singleton or void)|pg||
mb|p|nt|rensph:  6@S makes on the rather fortunate heart position here, but they'll likely end up in 4@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  2227 balanced tehese days :)|pg||
nt|athene: wow, only 2@H|pg||
nt|athene: i would want to bid a few more than that after partner doubles clubs for takeout|pg||
nt|idc: That's a good auction|pg||
nt|idc: Particularly by North, appreciating power of his shape after partner's negative dbl|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Now what?  6 of a major looks likely  on the bidding (if not the hands).|pg||
nt|ady: south will have to find 3 discards on the clubs|pg||
nt|ady: best to take the 1st heart   but a difficult play|pg||
nt|famus: can see only 8 tricks|pg||
nt|kit: oh my -- big chance for USA1 here|pg||
nt|kit: The North hand sure doesn't look like notrump to me.|pg||
nt|ritong: passing 3NT is a surprise, yes|pg||
pc|hA|nt|fabsayc: this should be down, even down two is possible|pg||
nt|kit: however, important for Martel not to squander 10 of hearts at trick 1!|pg||
pc|c6|nt|kiwibridge: missed a pass Karen|pg||
nt|kit: and ace asks for count or unblock I believe.  |pg||
pc|h7|nt|boedhy:  well maybe south should go for 3nt then ?|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|boedhy:  sort of wrongsided it now|pg||
nt|boedhy:  could it be slam looking form south...|pg||
nt|kareno: I also play that double as takeout.  And they have a light opening style with the forcing club system.|pg||
nt|rensph:  wouldn't want to get anywhere near 6@S usually|pg||
nt|fabsayc: best now is spade shift|pg||
nt|kit: he got it right!|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|santyclz: USA 1 took a big lead when China went down in 4@S rather than the 3nt on bd 25.|pg||
nt|brolucius: You remember the deal where Levin upgraded a 17-count to 18, reaching 3NT opposite 7? China played that deal in 4@S, on a 5-3 fit and went one down. So, Kit's advice on the deal, ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: that West should not seek a 5-3 spade fit proved to be good advice.|pg||
nt|gracelin: if they are there, I am quite sure Shi will take 12 tricks.  He is the best player in the team and reach semi final in BB in 2009.|pg||
nt|idc: Stansby's dbl started as minimum but I guess even his hand feels a little improved on auction|pg||
nt|idc: the 6@d bid should warn declarer of bad breaks ahead|pg||
nt|idc: I admit I might be tempted to do less as South - perhaps dbl is a little pesimistic but a forcing pass of 6@d maybe best|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: how to play now? not over yet|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  now is there some way to endplay w with the @h loser and force a @s lead?  I don't see one,  but that doesn't mean one doesn't exist.|pg||
nt|idc: Oh, I suspect this won't make - need a 12th trick from another @d ruff or a spade|pg||
nt|idc: and this attack on dummy's trumps probably too hard to handle|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Martel reading a book|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: "Starbound " that is|pg||
pc|c8|nt|fluffy: if declarer missguesses trumps he will need to find @dQ|pg||
nt|fluffy: or squeeze south in the reds|pg||
nt|gracelin: not a difficult task|pg||
nt|pelu: 5@S = 2Aces + @SQ - Lian exp @sAKQ :)|pg||
nt|gracelin: he even has time to establish a long Heart|pg||
nt|famus: natural for him to play !j--but if he opts to play a small @s--the play ends at trick 2|pg||
nt|famus: @sj|pg||
nt|daman:  here is the vugraph schedule so you can plan your days and weeks      http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
nt|pelu: he know that N is short in @S, so he could play @S6|pg||
nt|famus: that wud end the thrill!!:)|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer has so many entry to dummy, so I thk to take CA and play small spade to finesse S10 is the right play|pg||
nt|fluffy: Imaine for example playing a low spade and south ducking @sK9xx he might lock you in dummy with a heart and you have no way back to hand except destoying you chances of stablishing ...|pg||
nt|fluffy: @cQ|pg||
nt|pelu: this will be the 3. slam-swing in the match - the first 2 gave China 25 IMP and prob 12 more here|pg||
nt|gracelin: China should be proud of themself in outbidding the Italians in 3 slams in one set.  If Shi makes this.|pg||
nt|kit: Stansby will probably shift to club, although anything but king of hearts works fine now.|pg||
pc|c5|nt|pelu: but one of the slam only maded on a defensiv error|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: yes sorry:)|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: this time he finds the 5 card major|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|athene: various ways to come to nine tricks here|pg||
nt|athene: take a ruffing finesse in spades is one|pg||
nt|ritong: despite the superfavorable @s layout|pg||
pc|s6|nt|boedhy:  offcourse it was 50% but south has a very strong hand imo|pg||
nt|gracelin: Shi must be thinking harder than we do except he is not looking at all 4 hands.  I am sure the line he chooses is the best one.|pg||
nt|daman:  here is the page for the result fromthe 3 events     http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|famus: so the Chinese wud b the first to put a dent in this Italian Juggernaut--They've rolled over evry other opponent mercilessly, and i dare say artfully till now|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sK|nt|hlortz: yes with both k and j diamonds with south i dont see how to make it|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|rensph:  pointed out to me that it's not 12 tricks if E leads a club through, so S would have to play the hand in order to succeed. :)|pg||
nt|idc: I still admire the auction (by both sides) up till 6@d, then perhaps South did a little too much|pg||
nt|twcho: declarer will go up with the ace|pg||
nt|twcho: but he has to choose from finessing in @c or establishing the 4th @H|pg||
pc|hT|nt|kit: down 3, and 14 badly needed IMPs for USA1|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|kareno: And all he needs are eight :)|pg||
nt|ady: now down 1|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|idc: but perhaps we should put it down to good E-W sac causing tough problem|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  As was suspected, Brasil got to 6@h on  board 10.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: South found out 3@C is making|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and that 4@s is not making|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: East is to the bathroom|pg||
nt|ady: south cannot afford to discard a spade as 5 clubs and a sspade can be cashed  and south then end played with a heart|pg||
pc|h4|nt|athene: now overruff, diamond shift kills the dummy entry|pg||
nt|gracelin: now he need to guess DQ for his slam.  Declarer may try Heart 3-3 first,|pg||
nt|pelu: did he realy need to play @SJ?|pg||
nt|famus: so he has to play on the red suit squeeze but i think must surrender a @S NOW|pg||
nt|gracelin: I say no, since he as so many reentries to dummy|pg||
nt|twcho: :(|pg||
pc|h8|nt|athene: so only 8|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|twcho: nice smooth duck by south in the 1st trick|pg||
nt|twcho: now the contract is doomed|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: Nigel is a classy young player with a great future'|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|hK|nt|famus: to keep trump control and check out @hs|pg||
nt|pelu: take @S10 and play @DJ - he has a ruffing finess later in @c|pg||
nt|gracelin: he is to eatablish his club trick first|pg||
nt|pelu: my bet: he will make :)|pg||
pc|s5|nt|brolucius: The bidding is not as we see it, obviously. Our VG operator is valiantly trying to recover from the crash (which is not fault of his). |pg||
pc|s4|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|gracelin: H to dummy, run CQ, covered, ruff|pg||
pc|h9|mc|6|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4ST8743HKT9DK62CAT,SQHQJ87654DAC7432,SAK52HDJ93CKQJ986,SJ96HA32DQT8754C5|sv|o|nt|toniemme: la sequenza di intermedie a @D mette nord sulla strada vantaggiosa...se avesse dovuto cercare di tagluasre una quadri .'attacco di est si sarebbe rivelato devastante..|pg||
nt|nemeo: piuttosto colpisce la butler di Martel-Stansby, veramente strana per una coppia che ha vinto 3 Bermuda Bowl e una ventina tra Reisinger, Spingold; Vanderbilit eccetera...|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|tax456: appunto in 2 fanno 160 anni|pg||
mb|3H|mb|d|mb|4H|nt|cumino: Giocano 3S alla 29 i nostri. Non il miglior contratto|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|toniemme: Silvio quindi sono tutti e due sessantenni?|pg||
nt|nemeo: 71 Stansby, 58 Martel|pg||
nt|tax456: grazie|pg||
mb|5H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|toniemme: la somma data da Silvio (Tax 456) era giusta.....|pg||
nt|nemeo: :)|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tax456: strano che tu sappia contare..|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
nt|cumino: Attacco A@H se non fanno pasticci colossali mi sa che fa 3 down|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sK|mc|11|pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4ST8743HKT9DK62CAT,SQHQJ87654DAC7432,SAK52HDJ93CKQJ986,SJ96HA32DQT8754C5|sv|o|nt|boedhy:  I meant North |pg||
nt|famus: wd China|pg||
nt|pelu: so S has to discard a @h, but then again @D to K, @H-ruff and S can be endplayed on @s9|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hey my half hearted prediction came true|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: actually this was the bidding :)|pg||
nt|idc: Auction entered is 4 passes and I doubt that really happened, just a typing glitch i expect|pg||
nt|jaapfr: re los kabeltje:)|pg||
nt|famus: had he taken the first @H --had a possibilty in !endplaying S|pg||
nt|ady: was a difficult hand to make  |pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: south doubles 1@S and then north bids 1nt, i suppose|pg||
nt|gracelin: I have predicted Shi will make this slam.  Glad he didn't let me down.|pg||
nt|famus: shud read him for 7@hs with that Vul|pg||
mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: back to the double figure swings|pg||
mb|3H|nt|rhelle:  so far NS have 12 plus scores - they will be happy|pg||
nt|gracelin: at this Vul. 2D shows 4S and 5+ minor with 5-11 pts|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2c was 18-19 , madala passed|pg||
nt|brolucius: Oh, 2@C shows 18-19 balanced for them. The other Italian pairs use 2@D for that.|pg||
mb|d|nt|ady: Sementa losts of clubs and spades again|pg||
nt|hedyg:  1@c= 2+|pg||
mb|4H|nt|idc: Yes, Bd 11 still being played in other room, in 3NT by East (USA)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: that was 4117 almost same|pg||
nt|hedyg:  Raptor is only played in direct seat|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: East is unbalanced now he dbled|pg||
nt|ady: this time they do have a spade fit   but still might play more safely in clubs|pg||
mb|4S|nt|barnets: quel systeme !|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: this upgrade may get them to the good slam, 2@S followed by 4@C splinter|pg||
nt|twcho: I still can't understand why declarer take the trump finesse|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: some might be tempted to double this with north but he does not have that great a hand|pg||
nt|athene: you either need a shortage so you can get some ruffs|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  yes they will be pretty confident about there list|pg||
nt|boedhy:  only board 9 is tricky|pg||
nt|boedhy:  It was bid and made at most tables|pg||
nt|athene: or you need such good trumps you just make them by force|pg||
nt|kareno: Nanev very close to a second double.  |pg||
nt|brolucius: I didn't know you were bi-lingual.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Because he was tricked by a 19 year old?|pg||
nt|hedyg:  after the accident on board 4 he is hesitant to bid 2@s|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 5@C no chance|pg||
nt|ady: now Sementa has said it all|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Thundering here, South; I made a wrong bid|pg||
nt|gulyas: :)|pg||
nt|lechcold: ciê¿ki rebid z rêk¹ E...|pg||
pc|dA|nt|boedhy:  solid 3nt again|pg||
nt|brolucius: The convention that 2@C on a passed hand should show a sound raise in partner's major was banned for years by the English Bridge Union.  They thought it allowed players to psyche ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: in 3rd seat....|pg||
nt|kit: some might open the West hand 1NT and get to 3NT.  But they then might get a spade lead!|pg||
nt|athene: he really has not got that much defence|pg||
nt|kareno: In that case, north might sit.|pg||
nt|andyv:  for those who want to see the open room on livestream: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
pc|d3|nt|kit: This lead will not test declarer.  A heart lead might have.|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@C is known as the Drury convention.|pg||
nt|santyclz: And when 2@C shows 3 card support and 2@d is used for 4 card support it's 2-way Drury.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer has the chance to ditch a diamond on the 4th club, so long as the defenders do not set up a diamond early.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Taking a trump finesse might allow a damaging diamond switch.|pg||
nt|brolucius: That is no doubt what he is thinking about.|pg||
nt|idc: The 3@d showed 18-19 balanced & heart suport|pg||
nt|ady: looks like 9 tricks either spades or clubs|pg||
nt|hedyg:  in 4@s you would have to ruff high and play the J@S to create an entry to dummy with the 10@s|pg||
nt|jaapfr: y|pg||
nt|ady: this looks tough to make|pg||
pc|d4|nt|rensph:  only worry of declarer here is to avoid losing 2 spades|pg||
nt|gracelin: with the knowledge of south's 4-cad spade, declarer can take deep finesse there to get 4S, 1H, 2C and 2D.|pg||
nt|ady: Duboin in with his jack   but partner had shown a good hand|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i am afraid that even is not enough hedy|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|lechcold: na drugim stole pad³o 2@H i jest grane|pg||
pc|c2|nt|vugraphznt: 5@h= 2 aces no @sQ|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i see it is 14-16, so not an upgrade, and to me worth 4@D over 4@C since diamonds good for many discards|pg||
nt|hedyg:  extremely disciplined pass|pg||
nt|jaapfr: sure|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: instead of dbl direct 2@S is 6-4/5 less strong|pg||
pc|c6|nt|kit: Weinstein worried about a club ruff, so may play two top spades|pg||
nt|pelu: 37 IMP for China on 3 slams !|pg||
nt|gracelin: as there are only 2 entries to dummy, he could cash SA first to see what's north singleton, when the S7 shown, he know to double hook S10 and SQ|pg||
nt|fokal: he can evan afford to cash the @s As|pg||
nt|famus: this shud b a swing back to Italy if @s dont go to deep fin|pg||
nt|fokal: *even|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  E-w appear to have 4 losers and stopped just in time.|pg||
nt|hedyg:  on the other hand he also knows that with double fit Duboin is big enough to bid 4@s if it is there|pg||
pc|c5|nt|fluffy: in 4@s, 4 players made, 10 players went down|pg||
nt|fluffy: making 3NT is for sure a supperb score|pg||
nt|gracelin: the Italian declarer must be among the 4 that make|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer lacks the entries for finesse south for Q107x, so he must hope north hold one of the Q, 10, or 7.  So cas SA and take the double hook|pg||
nt|fluffy: declarer can fleely cash @sA now right?|pg||
nt|famus: has to beware of entries to play @s twice- but also needs to check the hand---Declarer has his work cut out for him|pg||
nt|lechcold: po kierowym ataku konieczny by³by impas i damy i ósemki pik|pg||
nt|lechcold: dziewi¹tki:)|pg||
nt|kamyk: brak dojæ na takie manewry - trzeba by zmarnowaæ lewê treflow¹|pg||
nt|lechcold: tak|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|ady: looks 1 down|pg||
nt|ady: clubs being 4-1|pg||
pc|s3|nt|brolucius: If he plays trumps from the top and they break 3-2, he can set up the clubs, leeaving the master @SQ out. |pg||
nt|andyv:  and for current standings: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|idc: Fortunately for Brasil, @dK offside otherwise 4@h makeable|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|ady: 2 imps to Italy|pg||
pc|sK|nt|brolucius: You can see how hopeless it would have been for North to 'cover an honour with an honour'. |pg||
nt|santyclz: The bad news is the trump break.  The good news is that s didn't request a @d through.|pg||
nt|kamyk: pechowe rozdanie - N mia³ prawo liczyc na dubla karo u partnera|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: this might be a fast board|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|sA|nt|kareno: Diamond needed|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|nt|gracelin: yes, nicely done, now two entries to dummy for the double finesse.|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
mc|11|nt|kit: Now diamond shift and he is down.|pg||
nt|kit: Problem was he couldn't go up ace of hearts due to no entry to the club.|pg||
nt|brolucius: South may hope that North started with @CKQJ.|pg||
pg||
qx|o31|st||md|1SQJ543H3D876CKJ63,SAK2HKQ52DQT43C84,S987H9876DAJ95CQT,ST6HAJT4DK2CA9752|sv|n|nt|100dog: stanno prendendo ritmo nel finale |pg||
nt|nemeo: brutte notizie dalla mano 29 purtroppo|pg||
nt|toniemme: una facile partita a cuori per EO in fase licitativa...|pg||
nt|100dog: nelle ultime 3 mani hanno mostrato solidità|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|nemeo: come vedete dallo score, è arrivato il bonifico|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|lontoh 63: hi|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sA|nt|toniemme: il 3@S di Dub è cue bid e tale si legge dopo la successiva correzione a 4@H..|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|100dog: giocherà atout ma è tardi|pg||
nt|toniemme: per la mano del 4@S /3SA -3 Nord avendo il vuoto a @H in una sala ha prefgerito descrivere la sesta carta di picche nell'altra 10 carte come minimo tra due colori..un pizzico di ...|pg||
nt|toniemme: casualità ha determinato il risultato negativo..|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|s5|pc|h5|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|h4|pc|d8|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c31|st||md|1SQJ543H3D876CKJ63,SAK2HKQ52DQT43C84,S987H9876DAJ95CQT,ST6HAJT4DK2CA9752|sv|n|nt|vugraphznt: north got angry|pg||
nt|fabsayc: time limit is 2 hours and 15 minutes?|pg||
nt|idc: 4@h needs a little luck in cross-ruffing mind you, so npot just on @d finesse|pg||
nt|jaapfr: LOL|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Sementa didnt bid 4@S because non vuln and afraid of dbl when it's wrong|pg||
nt|ady: fastest session I have ever experienced    16 hands in about 1 hour|pg||
nt|famus: 4@s here|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: North was right to blame his partner, wrong to get angry...|pg||
nt|famus: yes but had already showed his 4@s:)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: jestemy na 13 miejscu..na szczêcie z Japoni¹...mo¿e pech siê choæ podzieli na po³owê...|pg||
mb|1N|nt|boedhy:  this hurts...|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2hours 20 minutes|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: have to be finished in 12 minutes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: finished or started?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: finished|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  No problem with @hs 2-2.|pg||
mb|p|nt|rensph:  EW likely to end up in 4@S here|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@c = @d-fit and 7+hcp|pg||
nt|jkotor: mam tylko nadziejê i probê do naszych Gwiazd na miejscu: nie róbcie analizy tego dnia...|pg||
mb|2C|nt|vugraphznt: 2nt=4+@ss invitational+|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: Is he online?  I'll email him perhaps.|pg||
nt|jkotor: bo jeszcze jeden taki dzieñ i pozamiatane|pg||
mb|2H|nt|lechcold: nisko skoczy³...4@Dx mog³oby zakoñczyæ licytacjê...i le siê skoñczyæ dla naszych|pg||
nt|twcho: north is given another chance now|pg||
nt|twcho: can NS bid to the making 4@h?|pg||
nt|antoniz: nie kopie sie le¿¹cego|pg||
nt|lechcold: by³o sporo s³abej gry, ale szczêcie nie sta³o po naszej stronie..|pg||
nt|jkotor: tiaa, ale jeli dojd¹ do tego negatywne emocje to ju¿ mo¿e nie byæ dobrej gry dalej|pg||
nt|lechcold: (nie rozpowszechniaæ tego pogl¹du o szczêciu, bo minister Kapica czyha)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: Antoni - ty zawsze by³e starowiecki...kompletnie nie rozumiesz ducha wspó³czesnej walki...|pg||
nt|ady: 4@S a make for n/s|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: ojojoj|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2nt is no doubt a 4 card spade raise, alternative was some flower bid in hearts|pg||
mb|4H|nt|twcho: redouble is a better bid than a mere 2@h bid in OR|pg||
mb|p|nt|twcho: not sure about the meaning of double|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: I could not see explanation, sorry|pg||
nt|ady: 4@H plays well here|pg||
mb|p|nt|kamyk: a zacz¹³em pisaæ, ¿e kolejne p³askie rozdanie:(|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Raising your partner!  Is that legal?|pg||
nt|hlortz: wasted no time getting there lol|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: @H-lead against 4@S, then @D to K, @S to A @hQ to K and ruff, @CA and @C .. to K @hJ disc @C-loser, and so on = 10 tricks|pg||
nt|jaapfr: heee  24-44 China (lucky or deserved:)?|pg||
nt|gracelin: EW can make 3H, so 2S -1 or -2 is no big deal|pg||
nt|idc: Looking at the E-W heart intermediates on last hand, you might just hope for 2-2 trump split rather than a partial cross-ruff|pg||
nt|famus: he needs to ruff a @D for a push board i think|pg||
nt|ady: absolutely|pg||
pc|s7|nt|ady: 2NT   strong break of transfer|pg||
nt|kit: operator -- this is wrong|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sorry|pg||
nt|kit: Normal 4@H contract -- should make along crossruff lines, taking at least 6 hearts, 2 spades, 1 diamond, and 1 club.|pg||
pc|sT|nt|twcho: sure, not your fault. :)|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|fluffy: the lead guesses diamonds for declarer, and now defeating 2@s will require a diamond ruff|pg||
nt|twcho: wow, they bid it|pg||
nt|kit: Most natural play is to lead diamond to king at trick 2, and another diamond.|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|boedhy:  well stopped|pg||
nt|kareno: Clubs behave but not much else.  Good lead - actually Bridge World has an article this month about the benefits of major suit leads against notrumps - and their general success.|pg||
nt|athene: versace wondering whether to start clubs with small towards the ten i suppose|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: great|pg||
nt|twcho: no matter what the double means, it must show some useful value. :)|pg||
pc|c4|nt|brolucius: This is the last board of the session. I would like to thank Dirk, our splendid VG operator. Excellent session and many thanks!|pg||
pc|cT|nt|boedhy:  4nt quantitative|pg||
nt|rhelle:  yes, unless you're in 6NT and you get the wrong lead|pg||
nt|rhelle:  could be 12 tricks played from East|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the spectators all know how to make six, declarer does not|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: another down 1 EW joke|pg||
nt|hedyg:  very lucky lie of cards|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Sementa: this the match for 3@H and 3@S|pg||
pc|c2|nt|fabsayc: if he carries on with this line he is going down|pg||
nt|lechcold: http://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/1,114883,10496682,Nielegalny_turniej_pokera_w_restauracji.html... tu widaæ co siê dzieje z tymi, którzy graj¹ w gry uzale¿nione od ...|pg||
nt|lechcold: szczêcia..|pg||
nt|ady: not to much of a problem with trumps 3-2|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|twcho: great bid by Edgtton|pg||
nt|kit: this really feels wrong to me.|pg||
pc|h8|nt|rensph:  3@C puppet stayman here, little to the play in 4@S> Declarer will draw trumps and then requires the @HK to be onside|pg||
pc|hT|nt|kiwibridge: 1 @C ruff and the 1DA onside|pg||
pc|h3|nt|lechcold: Grzegorz nie powinien tak siê emocjonowaæ swoimi walorami w czerwonych kolorach|pg||
nt|hedyg:  nnow 3@ss and disc @c|pg||
nt|antoniz: je¿eli to co ogl¹dam ma byæ wzorem wspó³czesnej walki....to chcê byæ starowiecki:)|pg||
nt|ady: and clubs splitting|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|rensph:  he might be able to play for a throw-in|pg||
nt|kamyk: w sierpniu 80 Rosiewicz piewa³: "Bulgarija,Bulgarija, u Polijaka awarija"|pg||
nt|brolucius: One down will be fine, against a making 2@H. Madala was unlucky to find only two trumps in the dummy. His bid was fine.|pg||
pc|cA|nt|brolucius: Also, many thanks to Kit and Joe, my fellow commentators. We were awarded a fair bunch of boards - neither excellent, nor hopelessly boring - somewhere in between.|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|nt|twcho: and good effort by Gosney too|pg||
nt|hlortz: and @c 3-3|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|rensph:  should the throw-in fail (If S holds the 3rd spade) he can still finesse the hearts himself|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|nt|kareno: This is a hand I would rather leave to partner to declare always - too many choices.  I agree that a club to the ten is tempting.  The diamonds have opened a path for the defense.|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s8|pg||
nt|andyv:  yes, someday you will have to tell me about it|pg||
nt|twcho: this will be a serious blow for USA1|pg||
pc|d3|nt|hlortz: oops 32|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg||
nt|kit: He will still survive, but it seems so much more natural to set up at least 1 diamond trick first.|pg||
pc|c7|nt|twcho: the balancing double is absolutely normal by west|pg||
nt|twcho: but north had bid it much better than his counterpart in OR|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: there is so otfen when it is wrong too|pg||
pc|cK|pc|hQ|nt|lechcold: bez 2...a dobrego dnia mog³o byæ swoje|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h6|nt|gracelin: I didn't follow the play but seems 2S is making here for 7 imps to Italy|pg||
pc|hA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|jaapfr: 23 hcp with 2 doubletons and 9 trumps most will play and make 4@H I assume|pg||
pc|d7|nt|ady: nice lay of red suits|pg||
pc|s2|pc|h7|pg||
nt|famus: swing to italy|pg||
nt|ady: Italy have fought back well after very bad start|pg||
pc|c9|nt|kit: at least the long club is good -- now needed as the tenth trick|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o32|st||md|2S9763HJ4DAQ32CT95,SKT52HAT65D874CJ3,SAQJHKQ932DJT6C84,S84H87DK95CAKQ762|sv|e|nt|debc: altri 10 x le ns alla 29 4@s da una parte e 4@h - 2 dall'altra, adesso stiamo 20 a 34|pg||
nt|cuan: le ladies recuperano 10 alla 29. 4@S+1 golin paoluzi, 4@H-2 de biasio-gigliotti. 34-20 il progressivo per l'Olanda|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|nemeo: oggi per il terzo incontro delle 16.45 seguiremo Italia-Polonia femminile|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d!|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|toniemme: il contro di Dub mostra tolleranza a @C e picche...e mano deventema non buona..|pg||
nt|cuan: what is "deventema" ?|pg||
nt|toniemme: deventema è un utilizzo erroneo della tastiera...|pg||
nt|gluckenval: 7 prese si vedono,mancherebbero l'ottava e la nona|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|nt|remo: paghiamo 2, contro il 2@H di NS|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|toniemme: ho cercato di scrivere seguendo il video..il risultato non è stato esaltante..|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c3|nt|tax456: demenza senile..|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cK|nt|remo: sei come Zero, di Campo Gaudio: non riesci a fare due cose contemporaneamente)))))|pg||
pc|cT|pc|d7|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s3|pc|s5|nt|nemeo: si delinea un finale di 16-14 per l'Italia, ricordo ancora appuntamento alle 16.45 per Italia-Polonia femminile|pg||
nt|gluckenval: cuori è ancora safety play|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c32|st||md|2S9763HJ4DAQ32CT95,SKT52HAT65D874CJ3,SAQJHKQ932DJT6C84,S84H87DK95CAKQ762|sv|e|nt|rensph:  ducking that spade looked a little odd|pg||
nt|pelu: as so often - many partscore swings for Italy|pg||
nt|hedyg:  lol|pg||
nt|ady: last hand of the session thx all|pg||
nt|ady: thx specs|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Last board of this match, we restart at 16.45 thats in about 1hr 20 min|pg||
nt|ady: last hand of the session    thx all|pg||
nt|ady: thx kibs|pg||
nt|famus: so it goes to wht the other room does:)|pg||
nt|famus: thnks all--nice and fast match|pg||
nt|ady: thx Vincent|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: this is the last board of this round, next round will start in 2 hours. 13:45 local time. Thanks all for watching this very fast match!|pg||
nt|hlortz: and kibs can watch like 6 bds in OR|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Last board of this match, we will be back at 16.45 local time (75 minutes)|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: no trudno..teraz ³adny szlemiczek|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i think an alert kibitzer is right, was going down if diamond queen covered|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: last board of this match|pg||
nt|barnets: good but normal result for NS here|pg||
nt|ady: last hand of the session thx all  thx specs|pg||
nt|jaapfr: was extremely fast|pg||
nt|jkotor: a jeszcze dodam (nie chc¹ mimo wszystko wyjæ na nadwornego krytyka naszych)|pg||
mb|1H|nt|vugraphznt: next match starts in 55 minutes from now|pg||
mb|2C|nt|boedhy:  throwing imps like candy..|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Last board, we start again at 13.45|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: that is in 1 hour|pg||
nt|rhelle:  this is tricky|pg||
nt|boedhy:  yes do you know there agreements|pg||
nt|rhelle:  they play dstructive preempts this vul(doesn't everybody?)|pg||
nt|boedhy:  what is the range|pg||
nt|rhelle:  but the temptation to bid 6@c must be strong|pg||
nt|athene: 2nt overcall perhaps|pg||
nt|athene: would be interesting to see how lauria-versace handle such interference|pg||
nt|gracelin: looks like a normal 4H hand on this last deal of the set.|pg||
nt|barnets: east overcalled one heart in open|pg||
nt|brolucius: East has preferred a double to 1@H (the modern choice) and may escape a penalty.|pg||
nt|ady: great result for USA here in OR|pg||
nt|brolucius: Of course they opened 1@D at the other table.|pg||
nt|ady: thx Gerbrand|pg||
nt|jaapfr: tx Gerbarand you were great as always|pg||
nt|hedyg:  our thanks to our outstanding operator in Eindhoven, Gerbrand Hop, well done! to my excellent fellow commentators David , Daniel , Gonzalo and Jaap as well as CK, William and Ralf on voice for donating their time to guide us through these boards|pg||
nt|jkotor: ¿e tylko jedna para z tej reprezentacji gra³a ostatnio wszystko razem i gra w lidze razem|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  getting to 6@d now is too hard, I think|pg||
nt|rensph:  Even if spades break 4-1 taking the ace and returning a spade works equally well|pg||
nt|antoniz: bardzo trudny po otwarcie przeciwnika|pg||
nt|fabsayc: about the time they finish in open room :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: So many thanks to Bob Drijver our excellent Operator.  To the specs for their wit and wisdom.  To Bill Frisby for his contributions and, of course, to WBF for allowing us to watch ...|pg||
nt|kareno: their marvelous production of the world championships.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Opened room started 10 minutes later than this room|pg||
nt|fabsayc: they are bidding 15 there|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: because the match is on VuGraph|pg||
nt|ady: slam to finish|pg||
nt|gulyas: ty all, it was an exciting match here|pg||
mb|d|nt|vugraphznt: bocchi pointing out 3H makes|pg||
nt|idc: Last board at this table (the Open room have 4 more though) so time for thanks:|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  4@d may be an artificial slam try in @c|pg||
nt|boedhy:  will bid 5@c now expecting @h points|pg||
nt|athene: traditionally, this double shows a desire to penalize opps, but my guess is EW just use it to show some values|pg||
nt|barnets: I prefer the unfortunate 1@H bid|pg||
nt|twcho: last board for this round|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: and a memorable victory for Australia|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: We will be back at 13.45 local time|pg||
nt|petergill: West is thinking about whether to convert to 4@H|pg||
nt|twcho: hi Peter, a good win for your country|pg||
nt|petergill: If W does bid 4@H, then @SA lead works well, but might not be South's choice after this auction. The 3@S raise at the other table worked well, by guiding S to @SA lead|pg||
mb|2H|nt|brolucius: 1@D will be a transfer bid.|pg||
nt|hedyg:  as well as to the World Bridge Federation and to the World Bridge Federation with the Nederlandse Bridge Bond for sharing this important event  with us,especially to Jacob Hop who is instrumental in organising the broadcasts on behalf of BBO!|pg||
nt|jkotor: przed ME cykl powa¿nych przygotowañ by³ trochê d³u¿szy i porz¹dniejszy|pg||
nt|ritong: merci karen|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: The next session starts in around 1 hours and 10 minutes. It will be the last session of the day.|pg||
nt|kit: This time it is right to play the 5-3 major-suit fit|pg||
nt|athene: maybe even promising spades|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Last board for the day, back tomorrow at 10.30 Paris time|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: here at the playing site in Veldhoven|pg||
nt|fabsayc: thanks to our excellent operator Jan Nielsen|pg||
nt|idc: to my fellow commentator Joe and to our Operator Paul|pg||
nt|lechcold: nie p³aczmy na zapas,do strefy awansu niedaleko, jutro jest nowy dzieñ|pg||
nt|garden2005: nast¹pi przebudzenie|pg||
nt|ady: another game for n/s|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  still liking his hand|pg||
nt|jaapfr: despite this loss of Italy they still do lead the Round Robin pack after round 5|pg||
nt|idc: to the WBF for allowing us to broadcast this event|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Martel doesn't particularly mind a @s contract by e-w.|pg||
nt|idc: and as always to Roland and BBO, without whose work none of this amazing stuff would happen|pg||
nt|hedyg:  special thanks to our specs for joining and the kind and helpful messages. we hope you enjoyed the show.|pg||
nt|ady: may take some bidding   4th heart and the jack  the key|pg||
nt|hlortz: thx David, Hasan|pg||
mb|p|nt|rensph:  in this layout it all mattered very little, had north held the @HK it would've been a very effective @SQ|pg||
nt|famus: i rate them favourite to win|pg||
nt|gracelin: some care is needed here.  But I am confident Shi will also bring this home.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: LIAN already left the table|pg||
nt|jaapfr: a well educated quess Famus±'|pg||
nt|gracelin: the next match will start in 40 minutes from now.  Tks all for watching and hope you have enjoyed some great hands.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: ±'|pg||
nt|gracelin: Will also like to thank Felipe, our most capable operator who explained many bidding sequences to us.|pg||
nt|pelu: a way to play is @cA - @H to Q, @hA and then 4x@D discard @s, then @C AND MAKING 11|pg||
nt|jaapfr: looks tough for E )DD very easy'|pg||
nt|jaapfr: but he is afraid for @H loss @C@C and @SA for down 1|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer want to cash HA first as a safety play(he could afford t lose one trump), but here the threat for club overruff made that play not totally safe.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: and very afraid for ducking this IF S 6 card @C|pg||
nt|famus: playing @hA is sure wau to -1|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 7 card|pg||
nt|famus: 6 cards he has so needs to duck|pg||
nt|gracelin: with a 7-card club suit at this Vul. south may have bid more.  so duck the first club then take trump finesse maybe a good way.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i hope he does not go for the line @CA @HA x@S|pg||
nt|lechcold: dojd¹|pg||
nt|lechcold: chyba...|pg||
nt|jkotor: OBY!|pg||
pc|cK|nt|fabsayc: and to the spectators for some alert analysis|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and to the commentator for an excellent job |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: do you think 3@d is forcing or not here?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: W seems to be in doubt|pg||
pc|c5|nt|boedhy:  now pass finally|pg||
nt|rhelle:  good sequence - 5@c is again 50% at best|pg||
nt|boedhy:  slam again 50% or so|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well the 6 card trump support is hardly clear|pg||
nt|antoniz: mnie jest po prostu smutno,ale wierzê w przebudzenie naszych reprezentantów:)|pg||
nt|jkotor: * nie chc¹c|pg||
nt|lechcold: nie by³y to ³atwe rozdania|pg||
pc|c3|nt|boedhy:  no problems in the play|pg||
nt|rhelle:  North: you guys have a bit of a @h fit|pg||
nt|kareno: Spectators, you'd better reserve your seats for the entire tournament - there is much wonderful bridge coming up!!|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: W decides that 3@d was non forcing and passed|pg||
nt|petergill: At this vulnerability, I'm a big fan of Fleischer's decision to treat KQx as four spades |pg||
nt|petergill: Fleisher I mean|pg||
nt|twcho: if non-@s lead, declarer will go down at most one|pg||
nt|petergill: @SA lead ---> 300 when declarer has to try for 3-3 trumps to try to make his contract, but I think a @D lead might be more likely|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|lechcold: :(|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i wonder if he has A10x in spades if things would have been different|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Li just left the room -- and now Liu is on his own -- will he manage that?|pg||
nt|ehsana: .....|pg||
nt|fabsayc: meanwhile 5@D in open room going down undoubled|pg||
nt|brolucius: Bocchi now has a decision to make. Pass, 2NT, 3@D? He has chosen 2NT.|pg||
nt|ady: request for a link to running scores please|pg||
nt|barnets: 2@SX would not have been much fun|pg||
nt|psyck:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|petergill: If @D lead to ace, then on @CJ at Trick 2, S must rise ace OR underlead @SA when @D is ruffed|pg||
nt|lechcold: Brazylijczycy zagrali dobrze|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: jeli nawet, to nic nie t³umaczy gry katastrofalnej, a tak¹ w nadmiarze tu ogl¹dam od 4 dni|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: jutro o 10.30 przekaz z meczu seniorow Polska-USA 2|pg||
nt|jkotor: ? ja tylko wyrywkowo |pg||
nt|lechcold: gra od pocz¹tku siê nie klei, to prawda|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: a o 16.45 - mecz open Polska-Izrael, rowniez z przekazem wideo|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|twcho: now declarer is safe from being punched|pg||
nt|gulyas: S probably showing distribution here|pg||
pc|c9|nt|santyclz2:  Although the dummy's @c holding looks ominous.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 3nt|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: I think south showed some @S now|pg||
nt|hedyg:  Gerbrand when is restart please?|pg||
nt|garden2005: dziêkujê za wspólne kibicowanie - dobranoc :)|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|rensph:  3N is made on a heart lead and continuation here, but if defenders set up a diamond trick early on declarer will still have to find the @SQ|pg||
nt|rensph:  I'm also informed that lauria made 4@S on this hand|pg||
nt|rensph:  3NT, sorry|pg||
nt|jacksond: if plays donde for spade queen he makes quite easily|pg||
nt|rensph:  sorry, 3N making with clubs 3-3|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|brolucius: North realised that his partner must have had some purpose in bidding 2@C checkback. When it turned out that he was not looking for four hearts, he knew that he must have been ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: looking for a 5-3 spade fit.|pg||
nt|lechcold: 5@C Krzysztof potraktowa³ jako normalny cue-bid|pg||
nt|famus: Thnks Henery--and i go along with the n key:)|pg||
nt|ady: clubs in fact blocked if the play 3NT    4 spades safer|pg||
nt|hlortz: :)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|nt|boedhy:  and offcourse this one is down on @s lead|pg||
nt|rhelle:  thinking about it, 6@c is down on a @s lead|pg||
nt|kit: 10 easy tricks with spades splitting, but only 8 in notrump|pg||
nt|brolucius: if you want to listen to Voice Commentary, you should go directly to website: http://www.bridgebase.com/|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 16.45 1hr 20 from now|pg||
nt|jaapfr: mb they go for 6@D|pg||
nt|gulyas: next set starting at 16:45|pg||
nt|fluffy: probably 3NT is 5422, and now north has to think|pg||
nt|hedyg:  shame only the 1st page of the NS CC is loaded :(|pg||
nt|jaapfr: @DQ so vital here|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: I try to read what South wrote down|pg||
nt|fluffy: against many 8 HCP hands 6@d has no play|pg||
pc|d8|nt|famus: yes--too tired--as pointed out by informed kibtz-- taking @H  A wud need to squeeze|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Bye for now|pg||
nt|kareno: So that's it and Italy will get most or all of the VPs for this match.  Well done!!|pg||
nt|rensph:  lets see how declarer handles 4@S here though|pg||
nt|gracelin: He play Hear to break 2-2 or a singleton honor drops.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: pity|pg||
nt|gracelin: Italy recovered 19 mps in last 2 boards for a tied match.  Bye all|pg||
nt|famus: so a well deserved 1 imp:) thnks all|pg||
nt|jaapfr: still China wins    wddddddddd±'|pg||
nt|gracelin: indeed.  They tied with both Sweden and Italy today|pg||
nt|jaapfr: ±' ±'|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i try to smile but fail............±)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: ty everybody|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: see you soon|pg||
nt|lechcold: przyda³oby siê 4N jako cue-ogólny|pg||
nt|petergill: If @CJ to king at Trick 2, then on @DK N will play @D9 as suit pref for @SA underlead|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 6@D plsssssss|pg||
nt|ady: may know shape   but needs KJ hearts as well as QD|pg||
nt|fluffy: he is also worried about clubs because he has @cQx and partner could have 2 low|pg||
pc|h3|nt|antoniz: po kontrze w 3tr,chyba lepsze 4tr|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: jutrzejsze przekazy zaczynaja sie o 10.30|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: do zobaczenia|pg||
nt|antoniz: dziêki i do us³yszenia:)|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ady: this likely to make|pg||
nt|brolucius: (My spelling is better than my typing.)|pg||
nt|barnets: should the two teams meet later on in the KO stages|pg||
nt|barnets: a good match and especially fine performance by the young USA team|pg||
nt|brolucius: East doubled 1@C, so not certain that declarer will score four diamonds.|pg||
nt|brolucius: East will not hold a singleton diamond for his double, so declarer will start with the @DK.|pg||
nt|ady: maybe south will raise|pg||
nt|ady: no|pg||
nt|gulyas: no reason to, he told his story already|pg||
nt|fluffy: soth has told his story, he is not raising|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: South going through the auction, and asks who is declarer|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: And told he has a good hand for N|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|idc: I should also thank the players - been a lot of good bridge to watch|pg||
nt|ady: has he shown the vital Q@D?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: yes but his hcp are so beautiful|pg||
nt|gulyas: :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: North could do a slam try|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|ady: especially getting diamonds right|pg||
nt|barnets: this will still be a small swing to USA team|pg||
nt|brolucius: With -500 on there partners' card, it was very much the right thing to do (as it happens) to bid game.|pg||
nt|brolucius: ..their..|pg||
nt|barnets: who will win this match and have a carry forward of some kind|pg||
nt|ady: may make even with 3 diamonds    as long as playing 1st club from north|pg||
nt|ady: thx Henry Hasan|pg||
pc|s3|nt|boedhy:  well good start for the Netherlands...and with all these difficult and lively boards fun to watch|pg||
nt|boedhy:  bye bye|pg||
nt|rhelle:  ok, thx all - see you in an hour|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Bye|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg||
nt|petergill: Now S must rise on @CJ|pg||
nt|kamyk: no ale pamiêtajmy o chorobie Narkiewicza - to musia³o miec istotny wp³yw; ten sam sk³ad by³ w stanie osiagn¹æ du¿o wiêcej; no i jeszcze nie wszystko stracone|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|nt|ady: I think will get diamond right   as does not want west on lead|pg||
nt|brolucius: East could easily be 4-4-4-1 for his initial take-out double.|pg||
nt|ady: well thx all|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ady: bye|pg||
nt|fluffy: his hcp are maximum yes jaap, but partner could have anything|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: thx all cu in 1hr and 20 min|pg||
nt|hedyg:  he had 2 jacks in his beautiful hcps LOL|pg||
nt|jaapfr: yes tx all bye|pg||
nt|gulyas: thnx all|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s8|nt|brolucius: When you Join a table that has voice commentary (there will always be two during the world championships), you can switch on each of the three commentators.|pg||
nt|famus: tx David|pg||
pc|s6|nt|ady: bye all|pg||
nt|hlortz: bye|pg||
nt|famus: byee|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|barnets: I am not sure of the exact carryovers but it usually depends on which team finishes higher in the round robin|pg||
nt|brolucius: West false-carded the @DQ, to mislead declarer as to the position of the @DJ.|pg||
nt|antoniz: do us³yszenia,dziêki|pg||
pc|hK|nt|jaapfr: standings after this round : Neth 161 Italy 155 Israel 149 and usa2 137|pg||
nt|idc: including that last play - East realizes he can afford 2 trump losers but only if he starts on side suit immediately|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: thanks Karen great operating, thanks Henry and Tommy and all spectators for great feedback|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s7|nt|brolucius: But no doubt he was helped by East's switch to the @D7. |pg||
nt|barnets: tks all specs|pg||
nt|brolucius: Thanks for watching!|pg||
nt|ady: kept the loss to 1 imp|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  19-11|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  16-19 =  19-11|pg||
nt|ady: enterprising match|pg||
nt|ady: thx all   bye|pg||
nt|twcho: good defense by Edgtton|pg||
mc|9|nt|twcho: tks everyone and bye now|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: great win Australia|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Ok bye all, we will be back in an hour|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: next round in an hour|pg||
nt|petergill: A good win by the Aussies, aged 19 (Nabil Edgtton), about 26 or 27 (Paul Gosney) 33 (Nunn) and near 40 Sartaj Hans|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: thx all|pg||
nt|ritong: so the possible carryover between these two teams will not be huge|pg||
nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg||
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