vg|A - Bermuda Bowl 2011,Round 21_21,I,1,16,Iceland,0,USA 2,0|
rs|3NN=,4SN=,3NN+3,3NS+3,4HE+1,3NE+1,4HN+1,4HSx+1,5DE+1,5DE+2,3NW-1,2SE+1,3CW=,3HW-1,6SW=,6SW=,1NS-3,1CS-3,3HE=,4HE-1,1NS-1,3CS-1,3CW=,3CW=,3NN-1,4CS-1,3NE+2,3NE+2,2SW+1,3SW=,3NN=,3NN=|
pn|JONSSON,GRUE,BALDURSSON,LALL,WOOLDRIDGE,EINARSSON,HURD,JORGENSEN|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SKQJ83HJ7D854CA97,S6542H6543DQ7CJ64,SA97HAK2DKT96C852,STHQT98DAJ32CKQT3|sv|o|nt|jaapfr vg: a great session to start now|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Hi Vincent|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: hello all, they picked up the cards and will start very soon|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: usa2 3rd and Iceland 6th at the moment|pg||
nt|jtr:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=881|pg||
nt|skaftij:  In CR, East made the unfortunate lead of a @h against 4@s , the jack winning the trick and a @c could be shed from dummy on @h king|pg||
mb|2H|an|!S|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: hoi David:)|pg||
mb|2S|mb|d|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: a fine 4S by N presumebly with an unhappy @HT lead|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: without @H lead but with @CK oeff|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|skaftij:  East might have problems on 5 rounds of @ss|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Danny Sprung|pg||
nt|3for3: Hi all|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|3for3: back in the bidding, north had an interesting decision. 4333, but very prime values.|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg||
nt|skaftij:  East might have held 5 @cs|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: re|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Now I think Baldursson will play 2 rounds of @ss|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: I love Spain sun and sea but not their internet:(|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d3|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|d6|pc|h8|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h6|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: this can make but if so still 1 imp for usa2|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|nt|skaftij:  Actually declarer needs to find East with all the @h intermediates|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: wp though|pg||
nt|3for3:  well done|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Well done|pg||
mc|9|nt|jaapfr vg: after X he knows all now|pg||
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qx|c1|st||md|3SKQJ83HJ7D854CA97,S6542H6543DQ7CJ64,SA97HAK2DKT96C852,STHQT98DAJ32CKQT3|sv|o|nt|athene: hi good afternoon everyone|pg||
nt|athene: italy have been very impressive so far|pg||
nt|athene: and lauria-versace aren't exactly anyone's idea of a third pair :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: witamy z powrotem|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hi all and welcome to this match from Veldhoven. Iceland vs. China|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Play will start in a minute -- Einarsson and Jorgensen are discussing their defense|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: against the chinese system|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hi Martin|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers!|pg||
nt|barnets:  morning all from florida|pg||
nt|brolucius: Italy v USA in the Bermuda Bowl has a good ring to it. These events are enhanced by the decades of history behind them.|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am watching the live video stream, but it is from the other table at the moment.|pg||
nt|ady: good afternoon all|pg||
nt|brolucius: Utaly picked up three big wins on the first day, but they had some harder fights yesterday.|pg||
nt|hlortz: we are back again it seems|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: witam ponownie|pg||
nt|hlortz: good evening David its 30 am inn seattle|pg||
nt|kit: hi everybody|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hi all, we start now|pg||
nt|antoniz: witam i czekam na dobry mecz Polski|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Hello everyone and welcome.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: hi all from the BBO room closed|pg||
nt|xenya: hello everyone|pg||
mb|1N!|an|14-16|nt|vugraphznt: There we go|pg||
nt|ady: still leading?|pg||
nt|ady: good afternoonall|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznt: welcome everybody|pg||
nt|gracelin: H all|pg||
nt|brolucius: China beat them by 1 IMP in a great match. (There was a very rare vice squeeze on the last board - worth looking up in the VG records).|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hello everyone|pg||
nt|hlortz: er 130 i mean\|pg||
nt|ady: e/w likely to play 3NT|pg||
nt|hlortz: martel-stansby play weak NT not vul, pretty standard stuff - & 30+ years of experience |pg||
nt|psyck:  Hello everyone|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Hello Vladimir.|pg||
nt|hedyg:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
mb|2H!|an|transfer|nt|ady: part score in diamonds  looks best|pg||
nt|brolucius: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|brolucius: .. for the live video pictures|pg||
nt|ady: could Bocchi get over ambitious in hearts|pg||
nt|ady: good afternoon all|pg||
nt|antoniz: witam serdecznie:)|pg||
nt|ady: bid diamond fit e/w    but 2 aces   so just game in diamonds|pg||
nt|hedyg:  http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live is the link for the live stream|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Bocchi's 1@C is natural. All 3 Italian pairs play 2-over 1, which means that a two-level response to one of a suit is game-forcing.|pg||
nt|lechcold: i ja witam równie serdecznie:)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: good afternoon |pg||
nt|ady: this is the grand slam  that in some cases I think went down|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Itally CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/duboin-sementa.pdf |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: the boards are wrong here|pg||
nt|ady: yes    from before|pg||
nt|jcwla:  EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Poland/Gawrys-Kalita.pdf |pg||
nt|ady: 7@H makeable fruufing 4 clubs|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: this board was played to day morning|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
nt|xenya: 2@C Precision -- 6 cards or 5 + major|pg||
nt|xenya: hello Rashed|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: hi Vladimirù|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Vladimir|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Interesting hand. imo 5@D x would be par.|pg||
nt|xenya: i think N is worth 5@C now -- just in case|pg||
nt|jcwla:  EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Iceland/RRJorgensen-Einarsson.pdf |pg||
nt|Gerben42:  welcome back in Veldhoven NL|pg||
mb|2S!|nt|kiwibridge: welcome everyone|pg||
nt|hedyg: good afternoon :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: hello|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: przekaz wideo z pokoju otwartego: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live|pg||
nt|kit: looks like we are starting with a very flat 4@S hand -- I'm sure there will be more interesting deals coming.|pg||
nt|xenya: 3@C was nor forcing|pg||
mb|d|nt|gracelin: Lian and Dhi is the natural pair in the Chinese team.  Bocchi also play natural with variable 1NT range|pg||
nt|gracelin: we sstart the match with a slam hand.  6S is cold and 7S on the D finesse which works.|pg||
nt|gracelin: Italy is now lying first comfortably with an average of 24 VP in the first 4 round.  China lies 13th at moment.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2 c is 54 11-15, qualsiasi rever senza 3|pg||
nt|hlortz: hello all|pg||
nt|ady: sorry good evening for you|pg||
nt|psyck:  EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%202/hurd-wooldridge.pdf|pg||
nt|psyck:  NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Bulgaria/stefanov-aronov.pdf|pg||
nt|psyck:  Live Scores: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
mb|r|nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers!|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@D via a negative double is weaker than a direct 2@D on the previous round.|pg||
nt|antoniz: witam serdecznie:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: pokoj otwarty rozpoczyna gre z kilkuminutowym opoznieniem|pg||
nt|hlortz: they play strong club|pg||
nt|garden2005: dzieñ dobry :) |pg||
nt|lechcold: Izrael ma prajtycznie pewny awans do ósemki, a my musimy zacz¹æ wreszcie wygrywaæ....|pg||
nt|antoniz: oby:)|pg||
nt|garden2005: na razie Gawry przymierzy³ z procy|pg||
nt|lechcold: do strefy awansu mamy 10,5 VP, czyli niewiele...|pg||
mb|3H|nt|fabsayc: there is a double dummy defense to beat 4@S|pg||
nt|ady: west considering   will likely raise in spades|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: hi Henry|pg||
nt|garden2005: czuæ dwie nogi :(|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 3@d is a relay but i cant see what the 3@c bid means|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hi folks|pg||
nt|antoniz: witam|pg||
nt|jcwla:  EW CC: event:http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Poland/Gawrys-Kalita.pdf |pg||
nt|jcwla:  NS CC: event:http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/duboin-sementa.pdf |pg||
nt|jcwla:  NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%202/hurd-wooldridge.pdf |pg||
mb|3S|nt|gracelin: 2d must be a relay and 2H probably shows 5D/4H|pg||
nt|psyck:  All results: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|hedyg:  NS CC: http://tinyurl.com/65me2hd|pg||
nt|psyck:  Live Video (Open Room): http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: witam na meczu Polska-Bu³garia|pg||
nt|brolucius: Wooldridge bid 1NT (transfer to 2@C) intending to support spades on the next round. That is why transfers are so effective in many situations. They give you two bites at the ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: cherry.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: wooldridge explaining he is not 100% sure if 1nt shows clubs or could be a raise in @S|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sometimes they differ , depends on 1@C|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: but hurd explained as @C ,  madala just wants to know the insides|pg||
nt|ady: would double of 3@S be penalty from North  ?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: ins & outs|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: madala asking for the director|pg||
nt|brolucius: When 1@C is basically natural but maybe two or three cards, it is usually best for the defenders to treat it as natural in their subsequent bidding.|pg||
nt|barnets: it seems norths double relates to wests 1n bid|pg||
nt|warrens:  1N=transfer to @C's, but since N opened 1@C, this showed a strong 3-card raise.  Hurd's immediate 2@S over the X showed a minimum|pg||
nt|ady: not sure  what south is meant to do?|pg||
nt|barnets: if wests bid showed clubs perhaps norths x also showed clubs|pg||
nt|brolucius: That agreement prevents any misunderstandings, such as may have arisen here.|pg||
nt|barnets: hence x of 3@S would also be penalty|pg||
nt|barnets: by north|pg||
nt|ady: that would seem to be a reasonable choice|pg||
nt|brolucius: It's not immediately obvious why N/S should call the director. They are probably happy to be defending 3@S.|pg||
nt|barnets: 3 rounds of spades would seem to defeat 3@SX even with 3 club tricks for declarer|pg||
nt|hedyg: hoi Gerbrand :)|pg||
nt|ady: lost of wast paper in  south hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: Gerbrand will enter the names asap|pg||
nt|ady: tricky for south    good opening bid|pg||
nt|gulyas: hello all|pg||
nt|ady: defence could of course go wrong in 6 hearts or clubs|pg||
nt|jaapfr: GA all|pg||
nt|ady: Hi Daniel   Jaap|pg||
nt|jaapfr: hoi david daniel|pg||
nt|gulyas: Jaap, David:)|pg||
nt|hedyg:  Jaap :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: operator is ?|pg||
nt|gulyas: Hedy:)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: hoi Hedy|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hoi Jaap|pg||
nt|hedyg:  Gerbrand Hop|pg||
nt|jaapfr: aha great hoi Gerbrand:)|pg||
nt|pelu: Fredin-Fallenius also very naturel 5 card major, 1NT 14-16/15-17|pg||
nt|roswolf: 2@D showed a bal 18-19|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sorry that we missed this board, it was due to technical problems|pg||
nt|ady: hi all|pg||
nt|xenya: i'm almost certain no other table will be as shy as this one|pg||
mb|4S|nt|fluffy: the important factor here for south, is that perhaps on some meanings of 1NT he is on forcing now, and on others he isnt|pg||
nt|ady: with spades breaking well there will be no problem|pg||
nt|kit: Bocchi will have to cover, giving declarer the heart discard.|pg||
nt|ady: east shows 6 diamonds and 5 hearts|pg||
nt|petergill: EW System Card http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Australia/edgtton-gosney.pdf|pg||
nt|hedyg:  NS CC: http://tinyurl.com/652hw7a|pg||
nt|petergill: NS System Card http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/China/hshi-lian.pdf|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: 2NT was slightly ambitious.|pg||
nt|brolucius: West had an obvious raise with that splendid heart suit.|pg||
nt|lechcold: to powa¿ny przeciwnik, który siê powa¿nie liczy w walce o awans do ósemki |pg||
nt|ady: not even necessary to do that       east unable to ruff any diamonds|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: actually they do not have a misunderstanding, wooldridge just giving all the info he can|pg||
nt|ady: this looks down 1 on the baad diamond split|pg||
nt|ady: will Bocchi try 4@H?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: even before madala asked anything about 2@S|pg||
nt|brolucius: A messy start to the match.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: good safe 5@H|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: South commenting it was to difficult, north you probably did well|pg||
nt|psyck:  NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/bocchi-madala.pdf|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznt: all in dutch|pg||
nt|ady: well done by south|pg||
nt|psyck:  EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%201/stansby-martel.pdf|pg||
nt|psyck:  Live Stream (open room): http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|kit: Not clear to me how he worked out to not cover.|pg||
nt|kit: Perhaps he decided his partner wouldn't be leading from Kxx on this auction.|pg||
nt|ady: west preferemce to 3@D game forcing|pg||
nt|ady: with a weak preference  might bid 2NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: the later round of bidding is not explained in their CC so we will have to take some guess.|pg||
nt|gracelin: 6S is more comfortable a contract than 6D.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Lets see if they find the "killing defence" here|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: apart from the club suit all looks well|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes and 5@D down on club leads so 3n the best spot|pg||
nt|psyck:  Results & Live Scores: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: at least a @C lead would have given Weinstein a mild scare|pg||
nt|psyck:  NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Australia/edgtton-gosney.pdf|pg||
nt|psyck:  EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%201/levin-weinstein.pdf|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: welcome Krishna|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: lets try again :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i said that yesterday, but they found lots of alertable bids|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hi all and welcome to the last round in the Round Robin at the Bermuda Bowl|pg||
pc|hT|nt|gracelin: since they are in GF tempo, mabe south will rebid is spade suit and get a raise on the way to 6S|pg||
nt|fabsayc: defense is easier now east has bid diamonds|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: they didnt|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  since N didnt confirm a fit yet, South redoubled just in case EW were in trouble|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|lechcold: antykontra Mihova mo¿e spowodowaæ wist  treflowy |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: is it a winner now?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: if S ducks one @h?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and I guess thats not DD :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes that may work also|pg||
nt|ady: an extra diamond trick on that lead as well|pg||
pc|h4|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg||
nt|brolucius: East tries to slip through a 9th trick in diamonds. |pg||
nt|brolucius: By leading the jack, pretending to finesse against the Q, he aims to catch South asleep. Not today!|pg||
nt|desinka: hello all|pg||
nt|desinka: welcome|pg||
nt|fluffy: perhaps NS weren't prepared to defend against this 1NT convention|pg||
nt|fluffy: looks like Bocchi though that double of 1NT asked partner not to make any forward moves, but south didn't understand it that way|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hard to understand that 5@D. His partner did not have enough to bid 2@D on the first round.|pg||
nt|lechcold: witam|pg||
nt|lechcold: 5@D mo¿e byæ bez jednej, ale trzeba trafiæ... zabiæ asem kier, odatutowaæ i wpuciæ|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  please welcome Jason Feldman|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|gracelin: so the 4NT might be Turbo, showing odd numbers of key-card, in the meantime cue in H.|pg||
nt|lechcold: Grzegorz hamowa³ jak móg³, ale Krzysztof mia³ za du¿¹ kartê....|pg||
nt|ady: a lot of bidding on this hand|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Hello everyone|pg||
nt|eggy:  Good afternoon|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: hi Steve|pg||
nt|ritong: hello steve  hi all|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  so far both teams have I think exceeded their own expectations for the RR|pg||
nt|ritong: hallo gerben|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  US2 are solidly in 3rd place, and Iceland are in 6th with an excellent position to qualify|pg||
nt|jfeld:  South has entry problems to take the correct view in diamonds, but fortunately hearts are 4-4, so he won't get tapped out.|pg||
nt|eggy:  Pretty experienced the Iceland team though|pg||
pc|sK|nt|pelu: ok tranfers answers on 1@c, |pg||
pc|s4|nt|hedyg:  EW CC: http://tinyurl.com/6749bcu|pg||
nt|hedyg:  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/ for BBO-TV. Watch all  vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Open one browser window per table|pg||
nt|rnmalik: why not 5@C by S?|pg||
pc|s7|nt|garden2005: witam po przerwie :)|pg||
nt|pawel90: czesc|pg||
nt|ady: request for link to latest standing please|pg||
nt|xenya: we can see that 5@C is cold for NS, and 4@S or 5@D very good for EW |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: east might think the one Ace isn't @cA, for West did not bid 4@c|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|gracelin: 6D will go down if it's East hold that K10xx in trumps.  |pg||
nt|Gerben42:  yes some players from the 1991 winning team|pg||
pc|s3|nt|fabsayc: but if east has one heart and two clubs you have to win first heart|pg||
nt|hlortz: just a hand for overtricks|pg||
pc|s2|nt|vugraphznt: and now focus is on Einarsson|pg||
nt|ady: life made very difficult for n/s|pg||
pc|sA|nt|brolucius: Our valiant operator is trying to recover from the crash (which of course was not his fault at all).|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Jorgensen played with Baldursson in 1991|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and Jonsson was the third in this team playing in 1991|pg||
nt|jfeld:  So, Declarer will most likely make after the heart lead|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|mathat: Q @c lead 3 r  @h|pg||
nt|ady: I feel this should have been 300 the other way|pg||
nt|fabsayc: sorry the cc for stansby-martel does not cover this sequence, i believe 3@C shows a minimum, after that i would be guessing|pg||
nt|pelu: we have the vuegraf-match here, so OR will start in 5 min|pg||
pc|hA|nt|gracelin: declarer may have a guess at the end whether West has 3 or 4 cards heart.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Einarsson is now shaking his head -- he now knows he did the wrong thing|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: but a @h now -|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not necissarily|pg||
pc|h9|nt|gulyas: S knew his @SKQ was worthless, and he had no ace, so maybe his hand is not worth much|pg||
nt|ady: I am told 6@H in OR   A@S lead|pg||
nt|gulyas: oh-oh|pg||
pc|h7|nt|fabsayc: heart ruffed|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: after 21 rounds the first 8 teams (of 22) qualify for the quarter finals|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: australia currently 8th, china 11th|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: the difference only 10 VP|pg||
nt|ady: cant see the logic of going to 6@D     can be best on a finesse if west has Ace and jack of spades  and asit is here no play at all|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|gracelin: I presume he will discard the losing club on 3-round of H.  But he smply takes the trump finesse.|pg||
nt|kit: Martel has to block the diamonds so he can take another spade finesse, so he will make only 11 tricks.|pg||
pc|hK|nt|pelu: we dont understand the bidding, but the finalk contract is perect |pg||
nt|pelu: perfect|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 4d i think it was club control|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: xx first round control|pg||
nt|pelu: sorry the hard @D-sits = down 1|pg||
nt|fabsayc: except diamonds are 5-2 so not cold if he draws trumps|pg||
nt|pelu: I will go for my morning-coffee :(:(|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|c7|pc|h3|pg||
nt|ady: 11 tricks on top|pg||
pc|s9|nt|hlortz: nice contract! needs a bit of care to make cant draw trump need to ruff 4 clubs in hand i think|pg||
pc|c3|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|nt|lechcold: i potem jeszcze trafiæ gdy S wyjdzie w ma³e trefl...|pg||
pc|c2|pc|h8|pg||
nt|jfeld:  meant control problems (not entry problems)|pg||
pc|d4|nt|ryskiel_: Witamy po raz ostatni w dniu dzisiejszym...ciekawe kto bêdzie w naszej dru¿ynie Grzegorzem Lato...ale tym z 1974 a nie  tym obecnym|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|nt|gracelin: don't think he can make now.|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|eggy:  I know that we hate it when dummy hits with Jxx(x) but a club still looks lower risk and a higher potential plus than Qt9 to me, don't you think, especially when partner can't have much|pg||
pc|cK|nt|fabsayc: li had to give up the spade before playing hearts|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  keeping @D for last but no problem there now|pg||
pc|cA|nt|rensph:  hi all|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4S754HAQ6DK732CJ96,SKQHJ9542DQ964CT7,SAJ62HKDAJT8CAKQ5,ST983HT873D5C8432|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|3for3:  slam here|pg||
mb|1C|an|  |nt|jaapfr vg: an optimistic slam|pg||
mb|1S|nt|3for3:  32 hcp. I suspect many pairs will find there way to slam|pg||
mb|2S|an| |mb|d|an| |nt|3for3:  1@S is some bid|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: after this ""horror""1@S a slam can fail easily|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Yes, not unlikely|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: Lall thinking: NV pd passes time to start disrupting and bidding on nothing|pg||
mb|p|pc|s9|nt|skaftij:  1 @s was natural|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: as any psyche|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|h3|pg||
nt|skaftij:  running scores |pg||
nt|skaftij:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
mc|12|nt|jaapfr vg: i think psyches much more in Europe than in USA correct?|pg||
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qx|c2|st||md|4S754HAQ6DK732CJ96,SKQHJ9542DQ964CT7,SAJ62HKDAJT8CAKQ5,ST983HT873D5C8432|sv|n|nt|brolucius: 4@H would have gone down too.|pg||
nt|nickf: to start the match - you need to click on REDEAL down the bottom|pg||
nt|ady: may have endplayed north for the 12th|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: yeah went to fast for me to follow all cards probably was an endplay|pg||
nt|psyck:  Live Stream (open room): http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Italy CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/duboin-sementa.pdf |pg||
nt|Gerben42:  note that Einarsson went up from Qx|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: The ended in an slightl inferior slam and the cards ae not forgiving|pg||
nt|psyck:  Running Scores: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|ady: south a bit stuck   1NT    or pass|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: NS play strong club, UDCA|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: up to speed again|pg||
nt|ady: USA playing 3NT with n/s cards  OR|pg||
nt|brolucius: A pretty awful board for Italy, whatever was the cause of it.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: had to relog because open room was down|pg||
nt|pelu: I am back, and I see that Marrtel won 7@H on dummy reversal - the X of 3@D by W force him to that winning plan|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Hi everyone|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: No percentage in North entering the bidding.|pg||
nt|brolucius: ... and North has then protected with a take-out double.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: bocchi looking sy west cards on board 1|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 4@h = @ss|pg||
nt|ady: 1@S?|pg||
nt|ady: good morning Vincent|pg||
nt|lechcold: Multi mocno wykrzywione...no ale podobno pasuj¹c nic siê nie wygra:)|pg||
nt|ady: looks like a pass out|pg||
nt|xenya: in a sense, both pairs should be satisfied with that result |pg||
nt|ady: north may transfer into clubs|pg||
nt|jfeld:  either can cost, but my style is to lead a club there.|pg||
mb|1D|nt|brolucius: 1@S denies spades. With 4 or 5 spades he would double.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 4@H and 5@C here equally most likely down|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: trying to see how he could make the slam :)|pg||
nt|pelu: 2@H = contructiv 10-13|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3@C is surprising, most partnerships use lebensohl 2nt response to double with a hand of less than 8 points|pg||
nt|pelu: 3@C? by N I would expect 2UT (lebensohl)|pg||
nt|hedyg:  running scores and results: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|rnmalik: 2NT for minors.|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  so this big 4441 can be handled in many ways|pg||
nt|jfeld:  without the 10 of clubs, a heart|pg||
mb|2D|nt|athene: EW play standard short club, 5-card majors, strong notrump|pg||
nt|gracelin: West will bud to 4S|pg||
nt|gracelin: bid|pg||
nt|brolucius: Many use a cue-bid to show a sound 3-card raise, 2NT shows a 4-card raise.|pg||
nt|barnets: NS in danger now|pg||
nt|ady: no   west there with his 9 count|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg:  for results and running scores: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|ady: agressive auction|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: koñcowizna?|pg||
nt|juror1: witam z Veldhoven, nastroje s¹ raczej minorowe, ale duch walki nie zamiera, natomiast seniorzy a zw³aszcza kobiety bardzo bojowo i optymistycznie nastawione do walki|pg||
nt|lechcold: nie graj¹ negatem|pg||
nt|ady: 2@H some weak raise in spades I suspect|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: yes thats what i think they wrote down here to|pg||
nt|roswolf: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm for running scores in all matches. Select Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup or d'Orsi Senior Bowl|pg||
nt|ady: wonder if west will dbl 3@C?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: south thought 2NT was natural|pg||
nt|ady: seems does not have the chance|pg||
mb|2S|nt|brolucius: East has bid 2@H|pg||
nt|gracelin: 5H will be very expensive at this Vul.|pg||
nt|barnets: 3@HX was 1100|pg||
nt|barnets: for e/w|pg||
nt|ady: Madala very agressive   is pass stronger in that position given the quality of the overcall?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Must be|pg||
nt|psyck:  Results: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|pelu: Jan Martel agree! :)|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Poland (EW) CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Poland/Gawrys-Kalita.pdf |pg||
nt|roswolf: looks ok|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 1nt was 13+ to 16|pg||
nt|ady: yes   fallen on their feet|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Bought the auction really cheap |pg||
nt|jfeld:  Note that North chose a Diamond not a club opening, there is a debate among experts which is better|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  I like the 1@D opening bid it is much more flexible than 2@C or 2NT|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: it will be Joe Grue - Justin Lall for USA 2 in the open room|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and Jon Baldursson - T. Jonsson for Iceland|pg||
mb|2N|nt|rensph:  As most of you will have noticed these names do not match the countries playing - I'm sure operator will get to that in a second|pg||
nt|rensph:  seems we're back and good to go. :) Hello everyone.|pg||
nt|mathat: 3 down|pg||
nt|kit: Stansby could have bid 2@C stayman -- probably didn't want that doubled.|pg||
nt|rnmalik: or big hand.|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: but often the opponents will not believe they are given a gift|pg||
nt|psyck:  Live video stream: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|psyck:  (you can mute the audio to hear voice commentary here)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Few would bid 1@H, vul against not, on those South cards. |pg||
nt|ady: will try club switch|pg||
nt|ady: 9 or queen?|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: ta¿ S nie ma negatu...raczej nie graj¹ transferem|pg||
nt|lechcold: wiêc Brenner nie móg³ od razu skakaæ na koñcówkê|pg||
nt|xenya: 2N looks reasonable enough|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: ga all|pg||
nt|ady: 3@C    very close to making|pg||
nt|athene: hello good afternoon everyone|pg||
nt|eggy:  current running scores on:http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
mb|3C|nt|idc: Welcome all - BBO has decided that specs getting it too easy with just voice commentary, so you have to suffer written commentary too :)|pg||
nt|ady: lose control here|pg||
nt|hedyg:  for the livestream from the site: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|jaapfr: down 2 i suppose|pg||
nt|ady: only 7 obvious tricks|pg||
nt|antoniz: dobra czêciówka|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: I'm surprised Stansby selling out to 3@C with a void.  Seems right to compete with 3@D.|pg||
nt|rnmalik: true a natural bid.|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  you have to think what is passed out more often - I guess 1@D|pg||
nt|jfeld:  here, it works out as he gets to find out about the diamond fit immediately.|pg||
nt|jfeld:  If they get aggressive and bid a slam, it should make if declarer takes the percentage line in diamonds|pg||
mb|3N|nt|brolucius: When the opponents find a fit and then stop at the two level, the other side know that the points are divided and that they will likely have a fit somewhere.|pg||
nt|ady: and then again at 3 level|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hi Ian :)|pg||
nt|hlortz: if 3@c constructive stansby must wonder why he's doubled with his 19 hcp|pg||
nt|xenya: i don't think it's for minors -- just a reasonably strong balanced hand|pg||
nt|rnmalik: agree.|pg||
nt|xenya: 3@H bound to fail as the cards lie, but what else could NS do?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: dubion cannot know east hand   of 7-4  or would surely correct|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: West said 6-5 probably|pg||
nt|juror1: mo¿na obejrzeæ naszych w otwartym http://wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live|pg||
nt|warrens:  I'm surprised he didn't bid Stayman with that hand|pg||
nt|hlortz: guess they dont play lebensohl :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: their file is big, no doubt somewhere this auction covered, but i dont have time to search|pg||
nt|pelu: cc: 2M -D - P: lebensohl - against weak 2M - but what if 2@H is constructiv?|pg||
nt|ady: J@S best |pg||
mb|p|nt|Gerben42:  yes you cannot pickup Q9xx in E|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: declarer needs to guess trump to make this, but I am afraid he will not.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: probably down one but can in fact pick up the spades|pg||
nt|hlortz: @h shift ought to get south off ay type of endplay|pg||
nt|hlortz: /any|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Right. This exact holding is why playing to the K and finessing is better|pg||
pc|h4|nt|mathat: @c is 2-2|pg||
nt|barnets: So South survived a potential second disaster as a diamond lead would have produced 1100 should west have chanced a x of 3@H|pg||
pc|hK|nt|jaapfr: kibs tell me 5@C can be made but I believe it can not be made (always also @S loser)|pg||
nt|ady: think it might be right for Sementa to run when doubled|pg||
nt|lechcold: król pik móg³by daæ niez³y efekt:)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: this morning 1st session was China-Netherlands Shi and Li now Shi and Lian? (if I remember correctly)|pg||
nt|athene: surprising to see this misunderstanding here|pg||
nt|ady: may have been better to cash other club winner first|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: hoi william|pg||
nt|ady: hi William|pg||
pc|h3|nt|gracelin: from the 5H bid and the double, it's likely that north has a singleton trump|pg||
nt|kit: It took a different lead to defeat this -- but E-W should be in 3@H|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|gracelin: how can he believe north bids 5H at unfav Vul. with this 5422 hand.|pg||
nt|jfeld:  interesting. I would have thought Hurd would have done more with his 22 count after the inverted raise|pg||
pc|d8|nt|santyclz: Hi folks.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer finesses in spades, seeking a discard for one of his diamond losers.|pg||
pc|d5|nt|athene: most partnerships, you would think, at this level, would have discussed if system is on after a 1nt overcall|pg||
nt|athene: i think this is an important match for both teams - fighting for the last qualifying spot|pg||
pc|dK|nt|jaapfr: yes DD 5@C can be made|pg||
nt|hedyg:  the OR is starting play now|pg||
nt|jaapfr: pull 1@C and ruff 4th @S|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 10 min later than we do, we have theathre here :)|pg||
nt|ady: 10@H best|pg||
nt|hlortz: or perhaps a @D ruff for north?|pg||
nt|ady: likely 9 tricks|pg||
nt|rnmalik: @H and back would further damage N's plan to ruff @S.|pg||
nt|xenya: a kibitzer points out that 4@S might make -- possible in some variations, but certainly not on a heart lead|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  they play inverted by a passed hand?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: s passed|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|kit: The location of the king of spades means that South does well in 3@C, but the same location means that E-W won't make 3@H|pg||
nt|gracelin: but after all, north only bid 2H in first round.  So maybe declarer will figure it out.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: will have to finish this and re start to link with other table so after this hand ill close this|pg||
nt|gracelin: got it|pg||
nt|ady: not best  as J@D will set up the 9    and low diamond will in affent mean north ruffing a loser  and then trumps 2-2|pg||
pc|d2|nt|hlortz: nah thats setting up a @D i told him wrong lol|pg||
nt|hlortz: whatever, it looks like they were not on same page 3@c prob not dbled & -1  this is going for 500 i think|pg||
nt|pelu: I am told: 2Nt here ask for better minor, so N is forced to bid 3@C|pg||
nt|hlortz: i see. thx|pg||
pc|d6|nt|jaapfr: -800 looming now|pg||
nt|psyck:  EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/duboin-sementa.pdf|pg||
nt|psyck:  NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Netherlands/vanprooijen-verhees.pdf|pg||
nt|jaapfr: sorry DD means Double Dummy seeing 52 cards whilst players SD Single Dummy seeing only 26 cards|pg||
nt|ady: seems that many are in 6 on hand 1   and many making|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: South, Sorry|pg||
pc|dT|nt|idc: We have Martel-Stansby playing 12-14 NT & 5-card majors, Camps/Villas-Boas 15-17 & 5-card majors|pg||
nt|ady: now 9@D 8th trick|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  or was a max. simple raise with 4333?|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|rhelle:  hi all|pg||
nt|Walddk4: This room will be shut down shortly|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Our operator needs to reconnect to the other room|pg||
nt|gracelin: moment of truth. he would love to finesse the SJ but entry is not cnvenient|pg||
nt|gracelin: This is the first time Lian plays for China.  His partner Shi is a veteran and reach semi-final in the 2009 BB|pg||
nt|jfeld:  I'm not sure. |pg||
mc|12|nt|bafieri: undo|pg||
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qx|o3|st||md|1SAT85H96DKJT95CQT,SJ973HAQT3DQ6C832,SQ64H872D873C7654,SK2HKJ54DA42CAKJ9|sv|e|nt|3for3:  i agree|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Yes|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: thought in USA most dislike psyches|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|skaftij:  in USA almost considered  swindle|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: hoi dan|pg||
mb|1C|an| |nt|3for3:  grue lall probably more likely to psyche than most usa pairs|pg||
mb|2C|an| |mb|d|an|6-7 any shape or any GF|nt|skaftij:  must admit I hate being psyched out of "my" contract |pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: they are so reffreshing and bright (a long period ahead they will rule the bridge world imho)|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Poland's Gawry's bid 1@s on 3 small against Iceland in last match and gained 14 imps|pg||
nt|3for3:  but they won't be partners in the next usa cycle; lall is set to play with del monte of australia, grue with curtis cheek|pg||
mb|3D|an|pass/correct|nt|skaftij:  Bridge without them is like poker with no bluffing allowed says kib|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: a spot on kib:)|pg||
mb|4D|an|both majors|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: needs @H lead|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|jaapfr vg: to have any chance to beat: rest can almost be claimed|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: true Ed:)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: i meant a trump lead|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s3|nt|skaftij:  Sweden has got off to a good start against New Zealand|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: i thought seeing only 26 cards EW must be in 4@H and not 3nt (but mb I am too old fashioned)?|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d7|nt|skaftij:  They are now tied for the 8th seat|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|3for3:  the low score here belies the fate of these hands elsewhere...plenty of double digit swings in other matches|pg||
pc|s2|nt|skaftij:  They are in 4@h|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|h5|pc|s8|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c3|st||md|1SAT85H96DKJT95CQT,SJ973HAQT3DQ6C832,SQ64H872D873C7654,SK2HKJ54DA42CAKJ9|sv|e|nt|nickf: what happens when you press Redeal ?|pg||
nt|nickf: close - then connect to the OPEN room|pg||
nt|gracelin: rehi everyone|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: not without having looked at my screen :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: however had south split the dummy shortening defense does not work|pg||
nt|fabsayc: declarer will need to take ruffing diamond finesse|pg||
nt|ady: slam time|pg||
nt|ady: hi David|pg||
nt|famus: ya this was a bad switch- shud b small swing to US2|pg||
nt|xenya: this fails -- 2 off|pg||
nt|hedyg:  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/ for BBO-TV. Watch all  vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Open one browser window per table|pg||
nt|eggy:  I agree, but he knew that S must have a very robust heart holding after the 3NT bid|pg||
nt|ritong: i think 3NT instead of 3@h indicates that south had already shown rength|pg||
nt|jfeld:  sorry, probably not givent that they open so aggressively|pg||
nt|jfeld:  good point Henry.|pg||
nt|eggy:  He had also denied a four card Major, so a spade loser was almost certain|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  1@D - 2@D wasn't inverted by an unpassed hand |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: S passed in first seet -- so 2@d was "just normal" - not inverted minor|pg||
nt|ritong: not that 3@h shows anything else than a half stopper, although 3Nt sounds definitely discouraging|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|idc: The standard of commentary you can expect has just risen, as we welcome Joe Shair|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Hi folks.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: thanks Karen|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Polska-USA 2 seniorzyù|pg||
nt|pelu: what a start - 17 IMP in board 1|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: it's funny, the Dutch have orange system cards...|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Thanks|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  East will be tempted to pass this|pg||
nt|ady: 6@S a save|pg||
nt|barnets: a low diamond lead V 6@H|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: both sides play fairly natural systems 5 card majors 15-17nt|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2@D is american multi, i am not allowed to say the real name|pg||
nt|hlortz: if this keeps up many IMPs will be scored since -500 figures to be a big swing also  not 17 tho|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: here better not to try slam which fails|pg||
nt|ady: n;s may possibly get overboard here|pg||
mb|2N|an|19-21|nt|brolucius: North may respond 4@S  to his partner's one-bid. No, he has preferred 1@S.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: we are up to speed now|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: had to claim the first 2 |pg||
nt|athene: 4@S is two down, assuming the defence attack clubs early enough|pg||
nt|barnets: works quite well|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Hi Joe|pg||
nt|hedyg:  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/ for BBO-TV. Watch all  vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Open one browser window per table|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  Joel wasnt excited that although max he has 6 HCP in partners shortness|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  2NT is natural in passout - important to discuss with a partner but should be standard|pg||
nt|eggy:  really - it looked like the strength of an inverted minor!|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  And now West has a problem. 2@s is non forcing, but he has a very nice hand|pg||
nt|athene: but nanev, with singleton spade facing a takeout double, might bid on|pg||
nt|barnets: 5@SX in other room|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Oh, the pressure...|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sorry, hard to see the claims|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i suspect 3@D is some kind of forcing spade raise|pg||
nt|ady: likely to play 3NT e/w|pg||
mb|3N|nt|idc: The Brazilian Federation has player profiles on-line, look at: http://www.bridge.esp.br/player/joaopaulocampos.php|pg||
nt|rnmalik: very tempting hand and would require caution to stay at reasonable level.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: this Chinese pair not playing Precision, but a natural system|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  He doesn't know about the wasted @h values in his partner's hand, of course|pg||
nt|brolucius: On this sort of auction some play 2NT by the opener as weak-strong. That allows them to show a strong 3@C rebid (by bidding 3@C) or a shapely weaker one (via 2NT).|pg||
nt|ady: can the get a penalty in 1 heart|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: fearing his opponents have a huge fit and more shape than they do have|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this will limp home|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: do anyone here have the link for running scores|pg||
nt|ady: yes   6@H can be beaten  |pg||
nt|kit: I don't know the N-S structure here -- I imagine the follow-up will show a strong 5-5|pg||
nt|roswolf: because of the vul west didnt play for pens|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: at wbf.org|pg||
nt|barnets: 5@SX is also interesting|pg||
nt|barnets: def need to play a club|pg||
nt|ady: sorry   500 last hand   got the vulnerability wrong|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 6@C-1 OR|pg||
nt|roswolf: sinleton heart gf |pg||
nt|ady: 3@H?|pg||
nt|roswolf: singleton|pg||
nt|lokaty: 3@S 1H and 5-4 minors|pg||
nt|ady: indicating what suit|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: yes 5-4-3-1 convention after 1 NT|pg||
nt|ady: diamond game down|pg||
nt|roswolf: best game probably 3nt |pg||
nt|ady: 3NT also difficult  clubs break   but communications bad|pg||
nt|roswolf: may vwell be bid by west|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  didnt use stayman - I guess he knows 28 HCP and balanced hands... 3NT rates to make|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  and 6M doesnt|pg||
pc|dK|nt|fabsayc: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sorry - misclick here -- claim wasnt the right buttom :(|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: botton :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: @cQ took first trick|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: then a small @s to the K|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: And E is now in |pg||
nt|barnets: to force dummy|pg||
nt|idc: and there is a link there to his partner's profile, thanks to Brazil for the info|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: bit weak of Gosney - Edgtton to pass this out|pg||
nt|famus: these US youngsters have improved tremendously--I remember Lall being there in Bejing Olympiad playing for US juniors--come a long way|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: I am too far from the little papers to see what they wrote :)|pg||
nt|psyck:  2@h is 5/6@h, leass than 12 HCP|pg||
nt|psyck:  who bid 3@c operator?|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: only one makeable|pg||
nt|xenya: normal contract|pg||
nt|ady: without a club lead 6@D a decent contract   as club may go on long heart|pg||
nt|eggy:  cultured lead that was close to making the bulletin|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  :)|pg||
pc|d6|nt|kit: This is interesting.  East will lead a high heart and shift to a minor.  But does he shift to the suit where he has the king, or where he doesn't?  That is what declarer will have ...|pg||
nt|kit: to judge.|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: although with @H 3-3 and IF @H lead ........ 6@D could be made|pg||
nt|athene: 6@D has many interesting chances|pg||
nt|athene: if the trumps come in|pg||
nt|athene: for example, on a club lead, you could win the ace, draw trumps, cash three rounds of spades discarding a club, and exit a club|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: IF:)|pg||
nt|ady: 3Nt might have gone down on a club lead if south reads the hand wrong|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  could be a singleton Q somewhere|pg||
pc|d8|nt|athene: ok, this is interesting|pg||
nt|antoniz: witaj Grzegorz:)|pg||
nt|kit: Likely headed for 3NT -- the fate of that is not clear.|pg||
nt|athene: forcing the defenders to open up the hearts|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Leading the K also let's partner know to unblock with the Q.|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|athene: when he bids 4nt you might think it is offering two places to play, in which case he should pass 5@C|pg||
nt|hlortz: could be 6 imps if both 2@h and 2s make|pg||
nt|roswolf: settles for the minor game - understandable enough|pg||
nt|oosmanb: This doesnt look like it can make|pg||
nt|ady: I think would need to drop bare A@D to have a chance in 3NT|pg||
nt|ady: 5@D  no chance|pg||
nt|roswolf: no very much uphill|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|brolucius: N/S are not playing a strong 1@C system. That is probably why North did not want to make a pre-emptive 4@S response - in case his partner was strong and they could make a slam.|pg||
nt|santyclz: W has no quick entry to allow a @s thru.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 2@S makes easily for me|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: and how get @DQT3 out?|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  yes it is a common treatment that you lead your honor above the gap with 4 out of 5|pg||
pc|h6|nt|rhelle:  the problem for East is communication. He can throw @cs on @h KQ, but how to get there?|pg||
nt|brolucius: When dummy has only one card in the suit led, the partner of the opening leader can give a suit preference card to suggest a switch.|pg||
nt|ady: spades never mentioned|pg||
nt|barnets: this will be another swing to USA|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 6@C-1 looks too many tricks made to me|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes this is a team of [relatively] young stars|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sorry|pg||
pc|h3|nt|gracelin: Lian was in a tough situation to guess the trump layout under the bidding.  Italy really earned this swing.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2s was 5+ spades veery weak|pg||
nt|gracelin: Sementa led a trump in the other room against 4S, which is tougher for declarer.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: thought max 10 tricks in @C b1|pg||
nt|ady: trump lead best|pg||
nt|famus: @ds wud b the best lead|pg||
nt|hlortz: trump leads are best and so it was|pg||
nt|ady: good lead|pg||
nt|famus: gr8--Grue heard us--prblm for declarer |pg||
nt|ady: bad club split will beat this|pg||
nt|ady: I think down 2|pg||
nt|hlortz: thats my guess -2|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: not possible to see what they write down|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2 clubs 15+ any reverse without 3spades or nat|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  8 easy tricks - 2 0 4 2 and a likely @h.|pg||
nt|idc: Since the defensive entries (@dT & @hA) are split N-S, defence won't be able to get at club winners|pg||
nt|ady: semi psyche by north    no action from south   believed vulnerable opps|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Polska-Izrael jutro ponownie z przekazem wideo|pg||
nt|pawel90: czemu po treflu nie jest bez trzech?|pg||
nt|kit: It looks like the defense should be able to establish enough black-suit winners before declarer can set up the diamonds, but they will have to be careful.|pg||
nt|ady: needs to keep to 2 trump losers  so a reasonable game   but not making|pg||
nt|roswolf: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm for running scores in all matches. Select Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup or d'Orsi Senior Bowl|pg||
nt|roswolf: the play is likely to take some time|pg||
nt|ady: unfortunately  evening knowing of diamond position still cannot make|pg||
nt|xenya: 12 tricks are available here -- but that's neither here nor there|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  also Q from KQ109x for example|pg||
pc|h4|nt|athene: sometimes when you have a scrambling bid like this you can use it to show a weak bid in the highest-ranking suit|pg||
nt|idc: Of course, declarer doesn't know heart layout, so this could still be tricky|pg||
nt|rnmalik: can"t be bid though makes.|pg||
pc|h9|nt|kit: Now club ruff, heart ruff, and eventual diamond finesse will make|pg||
pc|hT|nt|rhelle:  North needs to take and shift to a @c - but not sure even that is enough|pg||
nt|gracelin: now a high spade, if 10 or J drops, he may ruff to hand to ruff the 3rd H.  If nothing drops, just pull the other trump|pg||
nt|kit: Nice choice to get to 5@D -- that will probably come home, although not clear.|pg||
nt|warrens:  I agree.  5 H's, 1@S, 1@C and 4 @D's (ruff one club in dummy, draw trump)|pg||
nt|kit: In principle declarer would have 3 diamond winneers in North, 1 ruff in South, 5 hearts, and two black aces, but club leads by defense could cause problems.|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|athene: in other words 5@H over 4@S would be "good" and 4nt - whatever - 5@H is "bad"|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  allows p to contribute the missing honor|pg||
nt|jfeld:  To read about the players you can check out the team profiles here. USA 2: http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/usa2|pg||
pc|c2|nt|kit: I wonder what declarer would have done on a diamond shift|pg||
nt|xenya: club now planning to ruff a club and discard a @D on the @H K|pg||
nt|athene: well, obviously, your first job in 6@D is to persuade west not to hold @DQ10x|pg||
pc|c4|nt|rhelle:  the @h2 may help - Lavinthal for @cs|pg||
nt|rhelle:  Of course, North also doesn't know that the 2@h opening was so weak in @h|pg||
nt|famus: bad everthing split i think-even trumps|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Iceland: http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/iceland|pg||
pc|cK|nt|kit: Well, that call undid the good work of finding the diamond fit.|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: here we go again :)|pg||
nt|pawel90: o. teraz jest :)|pg||
nt|kit: Since declarer needs to ruff 1 club in dummy, it looks like his only hope is KQ doubleton of diamonds.|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  I think that's an excellent site by the way, thank you for that |pg||
nt|ritong: some play " strong K" these agreements have to be made for every pair|pg||
pc|cA|nt|vugraphznt: gives a heart and discards all the clubs|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|rhelle:  good switch|pg||
nt|boedhy:  hi Rob and all|pg||
nt|rhelle:  hello|pg||
nt|boedhy:  yes but too late I think|pg||
nt|rhelle:  no, just in time|pg||
nt|santyclz: N will think about what to ruff with on the 3rd @c, but it won't matter.|pg||
nt|brolucius: That might ddepend on whether he believed the SP signal that West had chosen to give.|pg||
nt|brolucius: On the 3NT board that we watched a moment ago, the bidding and result were the same at the other table. You can check such things by hitting the MOVIE button at the bottom.|pg||
nt|athene: but as he is a passed hand i am not sure there is any need to make that distinction|pg||
nt|ady: likely to go down   will have to play exactly right|pg||
nt|jaapfr: most wil be in 4@S here I suppose|pg||
nt|ady: finess the spade   and get J@C right|pg||
nt|ady: running scores link requested please|pg||
nt|fluffy: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|jaapfr: hoi fluff:)|pg||
nt|fluffy: Hey hey|pg||
nt|psyck:  Bulgaria are currently 15th, but any of the top 15 still have a chance to make it to the top 8 quarterfinalists.|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  there is also an interview with NS there|pg||
pc|c3|nt|rhelle:  East can only cross with a trump|pg||
nt|ady: east will need to let west win a spade to play a 2nd trump|pg||
nt|ady: should duck this|pg||
nt|famus: Lall gotta underlead his @s for Grue to play another @D|pg||
nt|ady: otherwise down 1|pg||
nt|kit: In the other room N-S stopped in 2@H, making bidding the slam somewhat anti-percentage|pg||
nt|lechcold: 10 lew|pg||
nt|lechcold: Jacek powinien chyba daæ tê @S10 w pierwszej lewie...widoczna by³a groba wyd³ubania mu kar|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: or to lead it:)|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now he does|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i guess he can just ruff and cash clubs then play another heart since li cant overruff or ruff anything|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: S asks W about their leads when switching sut|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: suit|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and W tells S that they play 2.4.|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  W needs the @ha in south for 2 reasons now.|pg||
nt|roswolf: http://www.bridgeindia.com/World_Championship/World_Team_championship_2011/World_Team_championship_2011_Bermuda_Bowl.html|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Thanks :)|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|rhelle:  the HQ will get ruffed|pg||
nt|idc: He's committed himself to South holding @hA, which has two things going for it:|pg||
pc|d5|nt|Gerben42:  after the opening bid, East placed @CQ in South and got it doubleton|pg||
pc|c8|nt|vugraphznt: and no attitude signals|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: przekaz wideo z pokoju otwartego: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live|pg||
nt|lechcold: Gawry mo¿e zostaæ wpuszczony treflem i bêdzie musia³ podarowaæ dwie lewy pikowe|pg||
nt|ady: or even East |pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|rhelle:  but now North can draw dummy's last trump and cash a @c|pg||
nt|idc: (i) the play is simple and (ii) it will work as cards lie|pg||
pc|c9|nt|roswolf: is i am told a working site|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Match A Open Room video: http://www.wkbridge2011.com/en/live |pg||
nt|jcwla:  Running BB scores: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881 |pg||
nt|jfeld:  Yes, courtesy of Kevin Bathurst who did it for a South American bridge website|pg||
pc|s5|nt|ady: now ruff a club   but cannot get back to hand to ruff another club|pg||
nt|athene: if you get a club lead and west has @DQ10x you just need him to have @HQ10x as well :)|pg||
pc|s3|nt|santyclz2:  Declarer, of course, doesn't know it works but surely s has something for his preempt.|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|h5|nt|boedhy:  he has only 1 trump|pg||
nt|rhelle:  ah yes - silly me|pg||
nt|boedhy:  think he should throw @c |pg||
nt|rhelle:  so he needs to discard, and wait until dummy is dead - South can hold up the @d 3 times|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Bauke takes second @d and plays @c|pg||
nt|boedhy:  west ruffs and now e WIjs ruffs third @d and they have @h to cash...|pg||
nt|boedhy:  can also ruff this and play @c|pg||
pc|s8|nt|athene: anyway, lauria versace are content to push opps to the 5-level|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ady: well played|pg||
nt|famus: well done|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|boedhy:  so you were right after all Rob 1c was needed|pg||
nt|ady: good defence    no slip up|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|jaapfr vg: y|pg||
nt|jfeld:  I found it a bit interesting that he was playing his father-in-law and brother-in-law last match|pg||
pc|d3|nt|boedhy:  @c|pg||
pc|hK|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|idc: Declarer choosing to play this as a squeeze on South|pg||
nt|jaapfr: http://www.wkbridge2011.com/nl/live a more important link mb|pg||
nt|fluffy: when north is known to hold @cA and to have a canape it looks easy to guess clubs once spades have been guessed|pg||
pc|d2|nt|pawel90: dobra obrona|pg||
nt|hlortz: accurate defense|pg||
pc|d9|nt|jaapfr vg: a lot of persuation needed so a sensible 3nt|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|rhelle:  well defended|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|nt|idc: If STansby had thrown a @h last @d, declarer plays low heart|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dT|nt|Gerben42:  ah right, Chile |pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o4|st||md|2S43HAKT763DAJCQT7,SQJ5H982DT532C984,ST2HQJ54D976CAKJ3,SAK9876HDKQ84C652|sv|b|mb|p|nt|3for3:  big result in other room for usa|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: a bit expensive board here|pg||
mb|1D|mb|2S|nt|skaftij:  Video link:|pg||
nt|skaftij:  http://www.wkbridge2011.com/en/live|pg||
nt|3for3:  we missed a pass|pg||
mb|3D|mb|3S|mb|4H|nt|3for3:  3@D was a transfer no doubt|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: 4@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|vugraphzns: i cant keep up sometimes, im not at the table sadly just from the screen|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: thought E would bid 4@S|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: np Vincent : you are performing a job which is extremely difficult|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: mb he did not bid 4@S as afraid for bringing opps to 6@H|pg||
pc|d8|nt|ritong: bonjour|pg||
pc|dA|nt|3for3:  bonjour henri|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: hoi Henri|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2S43HAKT763DAJCQT7,SQJ5H982DT532C984,ST2HQJ54D976CAKJ3,SAK9876HDKQ84C652|sv|b|nt|boedhy:  yes always nice |pg||
nt|santyclz: If you're using the browser version, hit "Other Table" on the right side of the screen.|pg||
nt|athene: lauria-versace play a mildly cute defence to a strong club|pg||
nt|lechcold: w  1 3BA z rekontr¹|pg||
nt|ady: cant tell|pg||
nt|idc: If that had happened, Campos had the option of leading @hK instead, playing South for now bare @hQ|pg||
nt|gulyas: if you get the @Cs and @Ss right as well, you make 4@S|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: South sure they won't bid this game at the other table|pg||
nt|hedyg:  ty Gonzalo :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: aktualne wyniki open: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: kobiety: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-venice-cup|pg||
nt|xenya: would be an exellent score at matchpoints|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: a 20-20|pg||
nt|athene: this may begin 1@C - 1@S and now south had better know what his bids mean|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: with a 4@S doomed i think|pg||
nt|jfeld:  It seems if they are having the 2 USA teams play immediately, they would want to do the same for teams that are family|pg||
mb|p|nt|idc: instead of bare @hQ - pity we didn't get to see him make the guess|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en for video of the other room|pg||
mb|1C|nt|fabsayc: believe it or not 1@D is almost natural, 3+|pg||
nt|idc: [instead of bare @hA I meant last line]|pg||
nt|famus: i'm betting on USA2 reaching the finals|pg||
mb|1S|nt|rhelle:  this is exciting - looks like a @d slam for NS|pg||
nt|brolucius: South worth 3@C now.|pg||
nt|athene: double shows majors|pg||
nt|gracelin: 15-17 at this Vul. 12-14 only at fav. Vul.|pg||
nt|lechcold: sporo zale¿y od wistu:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@c = 4+@d 6-9hcp OR Gameforcing|pg||
nt|psyck:  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/bocchi-madala.pdf|pg||
nt|psyck:  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Italy/bocchi-madala.pdf|pg||
nt|athene: 1@S, playing transfer responses to 1@C, basically denies a major - might promise diamonds but doesn't always for most pairs|pg||
nt|athene: now the big issue is, what does double mean?|pg||
mb|2H|an|10+ 5+!hs|nt|rhelle:  1@c = 16+|pg||
nt|boedhy:  these board tend te get in teh way if you let it make early in the match|pg||
nt|gracelin: 3NT is there but south is worried about his singleton spade.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 6@c 1@d  o 5-4 minore sing @S|pg||
nt|ady: anotgher lightish opening|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@d - 2@d seems reasonable|pg||
nt|athene: double is either spades, or takeout of clubs, or takeout of diamonds|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  1@s = @h, unbalanced|pg||
nt|kit: I can't imagine not bidding 3@C on South hand|pg||
nt|athene: 1nt shows major-minor, shapely|pg||
nt|ady: nice lay for 3NT|pg||
nt|athene: you have to know which|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: or pd pls bid something I have enough=X|pg||
nt|athene: without any special agreements, most people play that double of any artificial bid shows that suit (e.g. doubling stayman)|pg||
nt|ady: double from south showing spades |pg||
nt|athene: the problem now is if north "raises" spades, he will wrongside it|pg||
nt|athene: that may very well be his concern here|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: north asking about 1@s, if east can have 4card M|pg||
nt|athene: otherwise 2 or 3@S looks clearcut|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: only if GF with long @d 4M is possible|pg||
nt|ady: the hand belongs to n/s in spades|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 2@S looks more logic then imo|pg||
nt|athene: yes, 1@C - 1@S playing these methods is a bit like 1@C - 1@D playing Walsh; i.e. you might have a major but only with a really strong hand that is going to bid the major next, ...|pg||
nt|athene: forcing to game|pg||
mb|4H|nt|rhelle:  1NT = relay|pg||
nt|ady: may get to 4@H     not a great contract   but can make|pg||
nt|oosmanb: 4333 quite obviously not interested in stayman of any sort|pg||
nt|ady: why is it wrong sided    must eventually lose 2 diamonds and 2 clubs whoever plays spades|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: and what about PASS?|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  2@H is 11+, 4@H just practical with 4-card supp|pg||
nt|eggy:  practical and perhaps optimistic :)|pg||
mb|d|nt|boedhy:  Rob Helle is teh coinventor of teh system Muller de Wijs are playing|pg||
nt|athene: overcalls are 3 or 4 cards with a longer suit somewhere else|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@H has a chance, 4@S is down on the heart ruff |pg||
nt|gulyas: in the meantime, OR made 5@Cx on bd2, for another 14 to Ned, leading by 25, nice start|pg||
nt|hlortz: well being from US i am rooting for them but its a tough road|pg||
nt|kit: This looks like a normal 4@H hand -- should present no problems in bidding or play|pg||
nt|kit: amazingly enough, N-S stopped in 2@H in other room, so chance for big pickup for Italy|pg||
nt|kamyk: kiery ujawnione - mo¿na unikn¹æ rafy 3BA|pg||
nt|athene: i don't mean it necessarily will be better as the cards lie to have south play spades|pg||
nt|athene: but that is what north will be thinking|pg||
nt|athene: that is why he might be reluctant to bid spades himself|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  it puts pressure on opps and that's NS style|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  I like Dbl a lot|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Johnny's favorite game try. Bid game and try to make it |pg||
nt|Gerben42:  4@S is too unilateral|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  2@h = 4@h, 5+@d|pg||
nt|athene: so according to that scheme, lauria could have overcalled 1@H|pg||
nt|athene: or 1@S :)|pg||
nt|athene: but maybe, vulnerable, he thinks it's unduly risky|pg||
nt|athene: this looks like fairly old-fashioned precision club, so NS are just bidding naturally after the 1@C|pg||
nt|psyck:  http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/USA%202/hurd-wooldridge.pdf|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: say LR or bad game raise, danger of getting to bad game|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: interesting point|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: rusinow leads|pg||
nt|ady: 2@S   shows spade control?|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: which doesn't say a lot for their system, NS need to cah their 4 winners|pg||
nt|hlortz: the latest system of game tries is bid game and try to make... should fail here :)|pg||
nt|hlortz: 1@D was one of their transfer responses|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  2@s = relay|pg||
nt|rhelle:  2NT = short in @s|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@S transfer to 2NT|pg||
nt|fluffy: probably transfer to 2NT|pg||
nt|ady: 2@S transfer to 2NT apparantly|pg||
nt|ady: 20-20  north declined to balance|pg||
nt|ady: even with the balanced shape  3NT could have been in jeopardy on a diamond lead|pg||
nt|oosmanb: will start on @C and probably make 10|pg||
nt|bobh1: hi all|pg||
nt|ady: hi Bob|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Hi Bob|pg||
nt|athene: which otherwise you would want to do, with that hand, as a pre-emptive measure, surely?|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  surprising that W passed|pg||
nt|jfeld:  wow.|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|athene: quite possible that in the other room west opens a weak 2@S|pg||
nt|gracelin: good convention.|pg||
nt|barnets: north has a diamond guess to make 4@H|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1@d = 2+ in third seat Vul, because they up the 1NT range to 14-15|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 3@H IF brave|pg||
nt|eggy:  I don't like pass apposite it though!|pg||
pc|s2|nt|athene: but lauria-versace seem to be very conservative with their weak twos, and weak jump bids in general|pg||
nt|gracelin: it's seems those Italians always have a right gadget to describe their hands perfectly.|pg||
nt|gracelin: if ducked to HQ, a club shift will beat it.  So declarer may decide to go up with HK and wor on spade|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Narkiewicz bardzo kaszle|pg||
nt|hlortz: is it totally clear to rise aC if decl leads it early?|pg||
nt|ady: 3 diamonds should be down 1   so not much in this hand |pg||
nt|warrens:  how can North not bid 3@S over 3@D?|pg||
nt|athene: i think there might well have been a subtle misunderstanding here for NS|pg||
nt|eggy:  opposite|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  with three small @H, what does pd have|pg||
pc|s6|nt|boedhy:  So he knowes the system like nobody alse oh offcourse WEISMULLER themselver.|pg||
nt|lechcold: na 3BAxx atak poszed³ w kiera...nie powinni siê nasi pomyliæ |pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|antoniz: zabicie Asem i szansa na trzeciego Waleta karo,którego partner ma do³o¿yæ,trudne,ale to szansa praktyczna|pg||
nt|lechcold: tak|pg||
nt|lechcold: wiadomo, ¿e partner ma max waleta|pg||
nt|jkotor: 8 szybkich po puszczeniu|pg||
nt|lechcold: a jesli RGR ma AKW10 w kierach to puszczenie pika wypuszcza kontrakt|pg||
nt|garden2005: i duszenie|pg||
nt|antoniz: i jestemy w przymusie z 4-t¹ Dam¹ kier|pg||
nt|rhelle: so 3-3-2-5 hands, 12-13, become unbiddable if 1@d shows 3+|pg||
nt|xenya: duly corrected  - 2@D on 2+ diamonds would be too much, even for these days... |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: welcome Rob|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  990?|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Agree with Jack. Automatic 4@S bid. with 3 low hearts and qjx for partner|pg||
nt|jfeld:  yep|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|rhelle:  3@c = relay|pg||
nt|gracelin: of course, the club shift is only academic, nearly impossible in practical|pg||
nt|lechcold: bêdzie nadróbka i szansa na zysk... na drugim stole padnie wysokie otwarcie (2BA lub 2@C)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: i seniorzy: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-d-orsi-senior-bowl|pg||
nt|xenya: hello Rob|pg||
nt|rhelle: good morning everyone|pg||
pc|sT|nt|rhelle:  3@s = 0-4-6-3|pg||
nt|boedhy:  WIESMULLER = Tarzan that is what they called their system|pg||
nt|rhelle:  Now North knows the @c losers will go on the @s AK|pg||
nt|brolucius: Takes away a round of bidding and may suggest a good opening lead.|pg||
nt|jkotor: zgadza siê, ale mo¿na te¿ zagraæ na impas i dzia³kê kierów (choæ przy renonsie trefl ma³o prawdopodobne)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now they can manage two heart ruffs if they diagnose the layout|pg||
pc|sK|nt|rhelle:  so he will get excited!|pg||
nt|kit: And in fact, N-S have profitable save in 5@C, and pushing opponents to 5@H (which likely would have happened) is a big bonus|pg||
nt|athene: slam might be harder to reach if west opened 2@S - what do you do with that north hand? just punt 3nt?|pg||
nt|athene: oh well, no need to pre-empt opps if they don't bid slams even when given a free run|pg||
nt|athene: really you should not miss this slam|pg||
nt|athene: if you play a strong club and opps politely yield you the floor|pg||
nt|psyck:  Declarer can make if he readds card right|pg||
nt|psyck:  could have also made on @d lead if he guesses right as defense cannot get @d ruff & @c trick|pg||
nt|psyck:  as dec can afford a @c loser if he reads @s, he should avoid the finesse here|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|brolucius: So many plusses in bidding.|pg||
pc|dK|nt|hedyg:  1NT was raptor showing 4@s and a 5 card minor|pg||
nt|jaapfr: anyway 5@C XC was a beauty play by Drijver in OR b2|pg||
nt|fluffy: Drijver- Brink playing only 3@s on board 3, this means at least 10 IMPs for Italy|pg||
nt|rnmalik: GM Rob.|pg||
nt|eggy:  well, when your only values are QJx @S you don't even need to check you heart holding surely|pg||
mc|11|nt|antoniz: brawo|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: wd Gosney|pg||
nt|hlortz: well done|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  Iceland must watch out, they are quite safe but losing 25-x they might be out|pg||
nt|jfeld:  When in doubt, bidding 4S over 4H is a good policy.|pg||
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qx|o5|st||md|3ST973HK8765DQ3C84,SAKJ64H2DJ52CKT63,S52HAQJTD98CQJ752,SQ8H943DAKT764CA9|sv|n|nt|skaftij:  Hi Henri|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 6@D|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|an|!S|nt|3for3:  off 1.5 KC, but 9 trumps...so slightly better than 50%|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|jaapfr vg: i like 6@D more than 6@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|3for3:  440 in other room|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|nt|skaftij:  good fit, but would you want to be there on a @h lead seing EW hands?|pg||
nt|3for3:  5@C?|pg||
nt|skaftij:  in 6@d|pg||
mb|4H|an|Asking key cards with !D|nt|jaapfr vg: 4@H is?|pg||
nt|3for3:  4@H like a non jump bloomer|pg||
nt|3for3:  or KC|pg||
nt|3for3:  it is kc|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|an|1 or 4|nt|jaapfr vg: ty|pg||
mb|p|mb|4N|an|asks !DQ|mb|p|nt|ritong: 3@d is a two wayed bid, either @c fit or suggesting a @h problem|pg||
nt|ritong: in both cases, grue does not like 3NT|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|3for3:  on a different day, slam could be very poor|pg||
nt|ritong: but the @d raise seem to indicate that their methods are different|pg||
nt|3for3:  at best 52% from lall's pov|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|nt|jaapfr vg: might work better with a ""normal""1@D opening|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h4|pg||
nt|3for3:  http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|3for3:  results page, but it doesnt always work, too many fans today|pg||
pc|h6|pc|d2|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|dJ|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dK|mc|12|nt|jaapfr vg: based on the QF selecting ones opps I thought USA2 would have as policy to win as maximum as possible (is that not logical)?|pg||
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qx|c5|st||md|3ST973HK8765DQ3C84,SAKJ64H2DJ52CKT63,S52HAQJTD98CQJ752,SQ8H943DAKT764CA9|sv|n|nt|athene: almost always the key in any tricky slam auction is how soon you can agree the trump suit|pg||
nt|gracelin: maybe another 3NT n this one|pg||
nt|lechcold: Grzegorz te¿ nie czeka³ z dobr¹ wiadomoci¹ (waletem karo):)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: indeed they did :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: a quiet 3nt here|pg||
nt|athene: north has a nice hand with those tens, maybe worth 15-17|pg||
nt|athene: but 4333, so it's close i guess|pg||
nt|jfeld:  several ways it can win|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  I mean the last step you wasnt sure about that?|pg||
nt|ady: in fact west was squeezed last hand|pg||
mb|1D!|nt|rhelle:  I'm pretty sure|pg||
nt|brolucius: 1@C is 3+ clubs and 11-21 points.|pg||
nt|athene: 14-16 notrump, fairly standard amongst strong clubbers these days|pg||
nt|gracelin: 1H to show spade.|pg||
nt|barnets: Italy now on board after USA bid 3N in other room|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Link to Convention Cards: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/docdefault.asp?page=2011Veldhoven&start=c%3A%5Cinetpub%5Cwwwroot%5Cecatsbridge%5Cdocuments%5Cfiles%5CConventionCards|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Just an overtrick.|pg||
nt|ady: slam time|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: is possible, was confused|pg||
nt|psyck:  other room did not find the play of going up with @cA trick 1|pg||
nt|roswolf: really -1 operator?|pg||
nt|ady: 10 tricks|pg||
nt|oosmanb: no way, must be 10 tricks|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: yes|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: he finessed a club|pg||
nt|roswolf: -1 or +1?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: down one|pg||
nt|ady: with 9 cold tricks|pg||
nt|roswolf: ok -1|pg||
nt|rhelle: on Board 1 both pairs miss their 4@s or 5@d game and play in a partscore - clearly a tough board|pg||
nt|xenya: some action here|pg||
nt|ady: will get to 3NT either way|pg||
nt|athene: as south i would show a good club raise then bid 3nt i think|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  well done then anyway :)|pg||
nt|rhelle:  NL is taking a bid lead|pg||
nt|hlortz: italians always seem to be there at the end|pg||
nt|bobh1: it seems declarer took an odd view in @Cs|pg||
mb|1S|nt|kit: I totally agree with this call.  South knows his side has at least 8 clubs and E-W have at least 8 hearts, so odds in favor of competing to 3@C|pg||
nt|athene: south should force this to slam i think|pg||
nt|athene: AJ10xx is a lot better than just 5 hcp|pg||
nt|lechcold: 1@S Narkiewicz?|pg||
nt|lechcold: nie s¹dzê|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: W apologized|pg||
nt|ady: 6@D best|pg||
nt|roswolf: misere view|pg||
nt|rhelle: yes, I present West won't be silenced easily|pg||
nt|athene: if i bid 3nt first time we might miss 6@C|pg||
mb|d|nt|fabsayc: not vul should balance|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: S alerted his 2@s bid - guess it show exactly 3@s and 8-10hcp|pg||
nt|ady: though 6@C also ok|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 1@D usually unbalanced hand|pg||
nt|rhelle: *predict*|pg||
nt|xenya: EW NV, so W will feel free to bid as many spades as he wishes|pg||
nt|warrens:  oh, thanks|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  1@D is a real suit|pg||
mb|2D|nt|boedhy:  bidding 3nt is really strange....|pg||
nt|gracelin: Madala-Bocchi use trsf response to 1C opening|pg||
nt|famus: I'm gettin msgs from involved kibtz--they got their money onn these boys winning--that b a gr8 morale booster for youngsters the world over|pg||
nt|kit: This is a bold bid at adverse vulnerability, but it is effective as it drives E-W too high|pg||
nt|lechcold: niestety w  2 Grzegorz przegra³ 3NT, które ju¿ móg³ zrealizowaæ:(|pg||
nt|psyck:  np Filipe, you got the important play right, was immaterial at end :)|pg||
nt|eggy:  not particularly safe - only 6 1/2 clear of 9th|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  I like that kind of treatment, very popular in Europe not so much in US I understand|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  if W splinters next, might get to 6|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  but RKC should avoid that|pg||
nt|jfeld:  correct, I sometimes play 1@d promises a good 4 card or 5 card suit, a suit that you don't mind partner competing in.|pg||
nt|jfeld:  but not that common in the US|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Running scores: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=881 |pg||
nt|Gerben42:  is S thinking of acting?|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Joel thinking how high to bid. I bet he bids|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: no it is W thinking|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  ok|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: S has bid 3@h|pg||
mb|3H|nt|hlortz: will west try science or a simple 5@d?|pg||
nt|oosmanb: What a hand |pg||
nt|ady: hearts best spot for n/s|pg||
nt|bobh1: 6@H down because of @S ruff|pg||
nt|roswolf: e/w may sac in @D|pg||
nt|xenya: 4N -- 2 suits|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Good bid, 4NT.|pg||
nt|rhelle: Interesting 4@s bid from East. There is a school of thought (I adhere to it) that suggests to always raise your partner's preempt with 3-card support|pg||
mb|5D|nt|ady: a quieter hand|pg||
nt|pawel90: NS maj¹ tu do wygrania nawet 5@H, ale obrona pikami jest dobra na kazdej wysokosci|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes @D the old joke what do u call an 8 card suit? trump!|pg||
nt|warrens:  an aggressive 5@C works.  Kit, you must love this :)|pg||
nt|kit: Difficult problem for Stansby, but he would have done a lot better doubling and collecting 500|pg||
nt|ady: defence can take spade and spade ruff   but nothing else|pg||
nt|bobh1: yes they may phantom|pg||
nt|roswolf: THE VUL MAY TEMPT THEM|pg||
nt|ady: 3 losers in diamonds  so can sacrifice at the 6 level|pg||
nt|oosmanb: into writing in all caps? :)|pg||
nt|xenya: even with a doubleton honour i would say...|pg||
nt|xenya: well, occasionally perhaps|pg||
nt|rnmalik: 6@D/@H both make on @H finesse, may be difficult to bid.|pg||
nt|rhelle: Yes. In this case, without the 4@s bid, South would have 2 rounds of bidding more, and could show his @s void|pg||
nt|rhelle: in the meantime North is regretting opening on an 11-count 4333 :)|pg||
nt|rhelle: a hand that Vul I'd never open|pg||
nt|xenya: he will be happy he did eventually|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: not a successful lead     heart works out better|pg||
nt|rhelle: interesting as well what 4NT actually means in this situation|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  North feels he is too weak to handle 1NT X|pg||
nt|kit: And here it pushed opponents to poor game|pg||
nt|brolucius: N/S play 15+ - 18 for 1NT, so North was a shade light for that opening bid.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: "good dummy" says Einarsson after W put down his cards - I agree :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and W layed down his @sK as it was just a small @s|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: in between|pg||
nt|jaapfr: some will bid as W|pg||
nt|ady: e/w can save for around  eight or eleven hundred|pg||
nt|famus: how much is 6@s costing|pg||
nt|xenya: N has a choice of bids -- 5@C/@D/@H|pg||
nt|athene: interesting use of double - few pairs play this way|pg||
nt|ady: not wild about east overcall of hearts|pg||
nt|athene: east may go for the spade lead on this bidding?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: dbl usually shows 4@s, but can be done on less, like on this hand. 1@s would show 5@s|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  operator adds 2 bids at the time|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: exactly|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: 20-20 split here|pg||
nt|psyck:  2@c is 10-15, with some poetic license 3rd seat|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: silence|pg||
nt|roswolf: no caps lock on the blink:)|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  so the players cannot know who is thinking from the operator|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  4@H by W was an option but took the low road|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: so the players cant here on the mouseclick is who hesitating or not|pg||
nt|jfeld:  surprising Einarsson did not want to look for slam with controls in the other suits and a good source of tricks|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  I prefer to not be in slam missing A + trump Q|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  unless I have 10 trumps - then you can actually show trump Q in RKC Blackwood without having it|pg||
pc|c8|nt|idc: The defence had to stay away from both pointed suits here (@s & @d) which wasn't an easy task for them|pg||
nt|ady: looks like 8 tricks|pg||
nt|xenya: i think it's just hearts and a minor|pg||
nt|rhelle: although South is not allowed to draw this inference, he knows that North has a long think over 4NT|pg||
nt|athene: if west's redouble of the negative double would have shown a heart honour, then east knows the hearts probably won't get the job done|pg||
pc|c3|nt|kiwibridge: Aust allowed to make that 4@S for an early 12 imp lead|pg||
nt|antoniz: ciekawa rozgrywka|pg||
nt|lechcold: nie trafi³ po prostu po³o¿enia króla pik|pg||
nt|antoniz: 4pik by³o za 300|pg||
nt|psyck:  whatever it was, it worked|pg||
nt|roswolf: east will sac on insurance principles?|pg||
nt|oosmanb: how bad is 6@H without looking at ew cards i.e @S distribution|pg||
nt|bobh1: W will lead a @S but E will not know why|pg||
nt|ady: even without a spade lead   only can make 11 tricks in hearts|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: East probably doubled|pg||
nt|bobh1: is it because he has a singleton or because of the rdbl|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|ady: this may well fail|pg||
nt|psyck:  W did not want to bid his poor @s suit i presume|pg||
nt|rhelle: I'm not surprised if the director was called at the end of this board|pg||
nt|xenya: normal treatment|pg||
nt|ady: good lead    without the 10@D 3NT could just be in jeopardy|pg||
nt|athene: going for diamonds is not a bad shot|pg||
nt|warrens:  I don't understand the Q from W here|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: @D8 was better|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|kit: So another 10 IMP's for Italy|pg||
nt|oosmanb: But given 3@S was a singleton, really shouldnt venture 6|pg||
nt|jfeld:  agree, not a great slam here.|pg||
pc|dA|nt|rhelle:  South is now advertising a rally big hand - and North will bid 3NT|pg||
nt|boedhy:  bidding 3NT yourself much safer|pg||
nt|rhelle:  9 tricks are of course easy once the @cQ drops|pg||
nt|rhelle:  so the NS aggressive auction looks like paying off|pg||
nt|boedhy:  well it is sort of lucky offcourse on a @s lead you need that|pg||
nt|antoniz: 5karo mo¿na wygraæ,ale 4pik zawsze -1|pg||
nt|jkotor: znaczy jak w koñcu S otworzy kiera, co jest raczej oczywiste|pg||
nt|ady: now 13 tricks|pg||
nt|ady: good sac|pg||
nt|bobh1: he will work it out because of the auction|pg||
nt|xenya: and this makes -- somewhat fortituously|pg||
nt|rhelle: Now, how should East signal? He 'knows' the @sAce will be ruffed|pg||
nt|xenya: you normally don't bid a slam missing an ace and the trump King|pg||
pc|d3|nt|brolucius: Some players would not have bid 3@C, vulnerable, worried that partner might have only 3 clubs. But you can see that making that pre-emptive bid has pushed E/W around.|pg||
nt|santyclz: S is likely to have 1 honor for the bidding, if it's a @h this is a good contract.  The @sk dooms it.|pg||
nt|kit: Still likely 1 loser in each suit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: actually it has value|pg||
nt|lechcold: bêd¹ punkty w 19, nasi nie poszli w obronê pikami|pg||
pc|d2|nt|Gerben42:  a practical lead - looking for the 2nd trick assuming @HA is the first|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|dK|nt|boedhy:  and 109xx of @d helps bogtime with that lead|pg||
nt|idc: Hard ask for East to lead a trump from a singleton at trick one, but a @c lead would have given declarer more problems|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: @cAQ throw a @s on @cJ|pg||
nt|ady: heart shift now|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: sweet choice for Poles|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes i think i would do so too at the table|pg||
nt|oosmanb: excellent save|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|kit: Need both king and 10 of spades onside|pg||
nt|pelu: 2@S easy making, so looks like a +board for Sweden|pg||
nt|psyck:  also may have been worried of 3@s being passed if pd was weaker|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  claim +1|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ady: long haul to 4th spade    meantime club switch best|pg||
nt|ady: then still 3 losers|pg||
nt|athene: well, the queen would be right if his partner had @DKxxx|pg||
nt|warrens:  only right if partner has led from AKxx|pg||
nt|athene: leton|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|boedhy:  bigtime|pg||
nt|warrens:  and declarer has 10x|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|jaapfr vg: but still N would make 3nt|pg||
nt|athene: giving declarer @DA10 doubleton|pg||
nt|ady: 9@D better  first trick from west  but then declarer would then play the clubs safely so west could not get on trick|pg||
pc|s3|nt|brolucius: Yes.|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ady: so 8 tricks|pg||
nt|warrens:  or Kxxx|pg||
nt|eggy:  certainly poor after North's double I think|pg||
mc|13|nt|Gerben42:  +2 even|pg||
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qx|o6|st||md|4SK73HA976DKJC7654,SQ9HKT53D843CQJ93,ST62HJ84DAT65CT82,SAJ854HQ2DQ972CAK|sv|e|mb|1C|an| |mb|p|nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: it is|pg||
mb|1H|an|8-11 any, no 5!S*|nt|jaapfr vg: with the actual standings|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|skaftij:  3nt might prove difficult to beat, but declarer has a problem with communication|pg||
nt|ritong: it is logical, however USA will have trouble in gaining a seat upper|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|3for3:  another big club auction|pg||
mb|2N|nt|skaftij:  in CR, East plays quietly in 2@s|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: related to the then very nice 52% slam:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: kibs: USA2 100% sure qualifies even if they lose with 25-0 this session|pg||
nt|3for3:  transportation problems for both sides|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Also communication problem in defense|pg||
pc|h4|nt|skaftij:  This will do no harm for declarer |pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sJ|nt|skaftij:  Eventually, South has to admit entry to declarers @cs|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: are the CR pair also youngsters like EW here?|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s4|nt|skaftij:  I regret what I just said|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|3for3:  clubs are dead now|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|vugraphzns: im sorry went to fast this board, will claim now...|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: good result Ices:) (fine @H play)|pg||
nt|3for3:  but diamond blockage is bad for defense|pg||
nt|ritong: suspense...|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SK73HA976DKJC7654,SQ9HKT53D843CQJ93,ST62HJ84DAT65CT82,SAJ854HQ2DQ972CAK|sv|e|nt|boedhy:  other table south in 2@s.... not that easy  :)|pg||
nt|santyclz: Right, so "good" was an overbid.|pg||
nt|ady: push|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: could have made him guess|pg||
nt|famus: too much for Grue--to work out:) wonder what mood wud be the Brazlian sitting in W posn b?|pg||
nt|warrens:  I don't see how W could X with 5 @H's.  Madala's bid did it.|pg||
nt|kit: This is a fair 4@H contract, but the 4-1 split probably defeats it.|pg||
nt|roswolf: again majors v minors|pg||
nt|ady: part score hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: no TD called...|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  EW might feel a bit worried now, so far their card isnt convincing|pg||
mb|1S|nt|boedhy:  better to be in 3nt..|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: ooh double game swing USA|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  intersting hand ... expect fireworks!|pg||
nt|kit: Flannery, may be 4-6 or even 5-6 as we see here|pg||
nt|xenya: they were just a bit slow -- no big deal|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: will not or did not?|pg||
mb|1N|nt|boedhy:  offcourse South Africa not among the favorites|pg||
nt|rhelle:  true - but a very solid team|pg||
nt|brolucius: Terence Reese once described Flannery as the worst bidding convention ever invented. "It copes with a distribution that causes no problen whatsoever with natural bidding,' was his ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: view.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: at this vul they open weak nt|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Not everybody's 2@h bid...|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes 4@h let thru in OR|pg||
nt|ady: might be 1@S passed out again|pg||
nt|pelu: ok when he lose 3 @D-tricks - then down 1 :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  although Apteker Gower are a good international pair|pg||
nt|fabsayc: on board 4 isreal bid to 4@S down 2 off the top|pg||
nt|ady: all game down I would think|pg||
mb|2C!|an|Many things :)|nt|boedhy:  And teh Netherlands are among the topfavorites especially on home turf|pg||
nt|rhelle:  5@c will be lead directing|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is very high up on Roland Wald's list of the world's 10 worst conventions too.|pg||
nt|santyclz: Roland agrees.|pg||
nt|brolucius: It has always staggered me that so many very good players use it.|pg||
nt|kit: big advantage of Flannery is that you don't have to respond 1@S to 1@H on a 4-bagger, so opener knows it shows 5.|pg||
nt|gracelin: yes, it will be 12-14|pg||
nt|gracelin: There is an excellent interview to Bocchi on the net.  I just don't know how to copy to long address to present to you.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@s asks for minor|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 3@d shows more d@s than @cs|pg||
nt|ady: games|pg||
nt|ady: but the majors only can make 7 tricks on the lay|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  bd 1 might have worked out differently on another lead, then 4 and this thin slam "missed"|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  many pairs play 2@C as a gadget here|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: I guess 2@c is Gazzilli like|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  well ... I think Italy is very strong, especially in the absence of the alltime strong USA teams|pg||
nt|brolucius: Roland thinks the convention is so totally awful that he forbids commentators to use the F-word. (I will let your one aberration go unreported on this ocasion, Kit.)|pg||
nt|ady: nice lay for 3NT e/w|pg||
nt|idc: The 3@c is minimum & without 4 card @d|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Some won't with 4 cards in the other major, some won't with a void, some will with one of those flaws but not both.|pg||
nt|rhelle: 1NT = good 12 to 15|pg||
mb|2S!|nt|lechcold: WE graj¹ Precison|pg||
nt|idc: a 3@d response to 2NT would have been 4 diamonds, min or max|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: very costly for Australia|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: some back here I expect|pg||
nt|jaapfr: a razorblade sharp 4@S needs @C lead to beat?|pg||
nt|ady: no   strong club |pg||
nt|ady: minors have 10 tricks|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  South X of 5@c is interesting|pg||
nt|kit: Well, if I get fired it won't be the first time in my life :)|pg||
nt|santyclz: The x took no room, 4@c might have given e a problem --  although not in this case.|pg||
nt|daman:  http://neapolitanclub.altervista.org/eng/and-now-lets-talk-about-bridge-interview-to-norberto-bocchi.html|pg||
nt|gracelin: thanks, George.  You helped me out|pg||
nt|lechcold: 1@D nic o karach nie mówi|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  yes probably has a specific meaning..|pg||
nt|rhelle:  showing the desire to compete|pg||
nt|famus: at worst wud b a 5IMP swing--dunno|pg||
nt|kit: tempting to bid game with 3 aces, even though only 12 points and 4-3-3-3|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  some have names of players like Gazzilli, there's also Bart and Lisa convention :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  and now he has done his part and passes|pg||
nt|ady: might make 12 tricks as they lay|pg||
nt|ady: might make only 9 if spade is ducked early by defence|pg||
nt|ady: when hearts split well will have 9 tricks and be relucant ti risk diamond finesse|pg||
nt|idc: as has been pointed out to me, a good thing E-W missed their @s fit|pg||
nt|hlortz: fredin will NOT go down this time :)|pg||
nt|pelu: 3Nt : 4@Hs + 5 toptrricks|pg||
nt|hlortz: i predict...|pg||
nt|rhelle: so West's game try is aggressive|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: looks like it works now|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and in scandinavia I have heard about "Hexan"|pg||
pc|c5|nt|rhelle:  NS need to cash their 3 tricks in a hurry|pg||
nt|boedhy:  but looking at the hands....|pg||
nt|daman:  my oleasure     a great interview|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 3@d = more @ds than @cs|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the problem here was the wide range 1nt|pg||
nt|ady: needs to win in east hand to make 12|pg||
nt|barnets: we can see that but he is trying to guarantee just 9 tricks|pg||
nt|barnets: on this lead|pg||
nt|barnets: there is no absolute guarantee I can see|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: take the A , play @D and then take safety play perhaps for 9|pg||
nt|barnets: when he loses the lead the def shift to a spade|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: attitude lead|pg||
nt|idc: I wonder if any Multi 2@d users will play 6@h by West and suffer a ruff at trick one|pg||
nt|idc: or perhaps East passes in some matches and West becomes declarer that way|pg||
nt|ady: Q@H lead|pg||
nt|ady: ?|pg||
nt|ady: sorry  otherway up|pg||
nt|gulyas: 4@S may make if they let him get the 4th @D to discard a @C|pg||
nt|jaapfr: yes so no @C lead for declarer|pg||
nt|gulyas: @DQ lead looks normal, then game is cold|pg||
nt|hlortz: 1@S forcing 1n 2nd neg like 0-5 i think|pg||
nt|warrens:  I think he'll pass non-vul|pg||
nt|pelu: no bet from me :)|pg||
nt|ady: 100 to poland   rather than a dodgy 130 bidding on|pg||
nt|rnmalik: @S lead and off.|pg||
nt|ady: this looks destined to be 1 down|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: down if @D played|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: back live again|pg||
nt|ady: but now on that lead|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: now made|pg||
pc|c3|nt|lechcold: akurat w przypadku otwarcie 1@D nazwa "Precision" nie jest zbyt trafna:)|pg||
nt|idc: after a transfer to hearts|pg||
nt|ady: yes     that is true|pg||
nt|gulyas: here she comes|pg||
nt|kit: Declarer has plenty of problems in 3@H here.  Play at trick 1 itself is far from clear.|pg||
nt|kit: Due to the entry situation he will probably play hearts leading them twice from dummy, which is not a success on this layout.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|pg||
nt|boedhy:  5! is cold|pg||
nt|kit: Good judgment by all to reach par here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no disrespect, but predictions involving fredin are precarious|pg||
nt|pelu: DD 6@C can make, but "impossible" to bid - and against all odds|pg||
nt|pelu: u are right, Martin, but when he see 9 "sure" tricks in 3NT - |pg||
nt|fabsayc: we see 9, he does not|pg||
nt|pelu: he hasa to be carefull in start - if @Ss 5-2|pg||
nt|pelu: for sure he "see" 9 tricks|pg||
nt|xenya: 2 off|pg||
pc|s4|nt|brolucius: West does not want to play a second top spade here.|pg||
nt|hlortz: might w dbl 3@S with the intent to pull @c to @D?|pg||
nt|kit: He will use this entry to make a spade play I'm pretty sure.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if north has 5 spades there is no 100% line, but on hand just playing hearts will work|pg||
pc|s3|nt|boedhy:  @s|pg||
nt|rhelle:  the @s8 will be lavinthal for @d|pg||
nt|rhelle:  South can see he needs 2 @d tricks to defeat the contract|pg||
nt|rhelle:  so he needs the @dK in North|pg||
nt|rhelle:  might as well play the @dJ now|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Fredin says "ill be very surprised if i get down on this one"|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|ady: in fact needed a club lead|pg||
nt|ady: unless going wrong with spades|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|kit: They show standard count on king lead 5-level or higher contract|pg||
nt|brolucius: East will have given count.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and make 10|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: better than the arvitrary 4@H|pg||
nt|xenya: 3 pades, 3 hearts and @CA for the defence|pg||
pc|s9|nt|gulyas: it maybe tricky if they play a @C back|pg||
nt|ady: good lead     may be able to force and entry to west hand in diamonds for a heart finesse |pg||
nt|psyck:  I don't think S had a further bid on 2N|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|nt|barnets: now he has the guarantee for his contract|pg||
nt|pawel90: niestety treflowy tu obk³ada³|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|kit: Now, when West shifts to a heart East will have to deduce that reason West didn't cash second spade is that it isn't cashing.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: bound to lose the @D for safety|pg||
nt|famus: gets an additional entry|pg||
nt|hlortz: both sides have used trump leads on defense well|pg||
nt|athene:  hi :)|pg||
nt|athene:  sry private :)|pg||
nt|ady: in fact 9@S entry   so should make 8 tricks|pg||
nt|rnmalik: true.|pg||
nt|jfeld:  I'm a big fan of BART|pg||
nt|jfeld:  esp reverse BART|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  now Wooldridge at a crossroads|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  I'm currently reading Rodwell's book and cutting communication by the defense, that works here :)|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  a @H return strands dummy's @C|pg||
pc|dK|nt|gracelin: 3C is also making here, so either 9 or 10 tricks will result in a tied board|pg||
nt|idc: Now declarer can claim, overtrick if @sK right|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: try this if you want to see live play, not very exciting http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|hlortz: this looks 2 off but i may wrong by a trick|pg||
pc|d3|nt|lechcold: 1@D to 11-15 punktów bez starszej pi¹tki i uk³adów pasuj¹cych do otwarcia 2@C|pg||
nt|kamyk: no i to w³anie jest precyzyjne opisanie charakteru rêki:)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: we agree on most pairs will bid this and most will make it?|pg||
pc|d5|nt|malpaluche: @d j'aurais compris|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|brolucius: East has advertised length in the majors, so declarer will probably play West for the @DQ.|pg||
nt|barnets: lets say north had K10xx in diaimonds and hearts were 4-2|pg||
nt|jkotor: 4@s na przeciwnej, ³adnie naszych wyblokowali|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|boedhy:  difficult to see who must bid again|pg||
nt|kit: will just have easy squeeze -- will not need to finesse|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes|pg||
nt|kit: Note Levin's heart plays -- trying to hide king of hearts so declarer places him with other high cards|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer just needs one of SA/HK to be on side.  In fact both are.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: the t/o X was left in for 300 OR|pg||
pc|d4|nt|boedhy:  but think  South has a sort of lesser rick decision|pg||
nt|boedhy:  risk|pg||
nt|kit: I doubt if declarer will be fooled here, but still good defensive technique|pg||
pc|dA|nt|barnets: he would be down|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|lechcold: w niektórych wersjach mo¿e byæ nawet renons karo|pg||
nt|barnets: on a spade switch|pg||
nt|ady: 1 imp for USA|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  problem is he doesnt know that much about E distribution|pg||
pc|c8|nt|gracelin: guess he will cross ruff to 10 tricks for the same imp as 9 tricks.|pg||
nt|twcho: best if EW plays non-leaping Michael here|pg||
nt|gulyas: has to decide if he plays for the @HA to be onside, or the @Ds to be good, but this is better, of course|pg||
nt|kit: I'm really surprised he got the hearts right considering the entry problems.|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ady: club back too late|pg||
nt|xenya: if N goes up @CA on the second club that is|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
nt|ady: should get this right|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: he will is my bet|pg||
nt|ady: can be a nice swing for Autralia|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: @D lead not so clear so mb a push more realistic?|pg||
pc|sA|nt|gracelin: he is happy with 9|pg||
pc|s7|pc|h3|nt|gracelin: now he might reject the H finesse for a safe 9 tricks|pg||
nt|psyck:  so the swings continue & the score reamins tight|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|brolucius: When declarer runs the trumps West will have to keep the @SA and so unguard the diamonds.|pg||
nt|brolucius: This would allow declarer to pick up the suit when West held x-x-x (and had to throw one) and East started with Q-x. |pg||
nt|santyclz: China took a 5 imp lead when on bd 2 w chose to lead the @dk, s ruffed the 3rd round high and finessed into the stiff @cq.|pg||
nt|santyclz: To see how a board was played at the other table with the download version, click "Movie", then "(other) Room",|pg||
nt|santyclz: click on the board you wish to review, and click Next to step through the play. With the Browser version click |pg||
nt|brolucius: The diamond position is known as a show-up squeeze, because East's @DQ-x may become 'shown up' after West has been forced to discard a diamond. When West follows low on the 2nd ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: round, his card is known to be his last in the suit.|pg||
nt|santyclz: click on the board you wish to review, and click Next to step through the play. With the Browser version click |pg||
nt|fabsayc: defense is playing with fire, jorgensen needs to avoid getting endplayed|pg||
nt|fabsayc: spade jack shift was totally safe after east discarded two cards in suit|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|Gerben42:  not sure if its findable|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg||
nt|gracelin: HA and HJ|pg||
mc|9|nt|ady: even on a club lead  the defeence not clear cut|pg||
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qx|o7|st||md|1ST32H952DAK8762C3,SAQ9HK3DQ95CAJT86,SKJ8765HAT6DJ3CK2,S4HQJ874DT4CQ9754|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|an| |nt|3for3:  that was big for iceland...keeps them in comfortable position in the standings, for now|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|nt|ritong: but the sword remains upthere for ten boards|pg||
nt|3for3:  dbl5-7 or so|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: i am a very big fan of usa2 especially of EW here but Iceland also very strong team|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|d|nt|3for3:  not a fan of 2@D, unless it guaranteed spade fit.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|ritong: perhaps it is a good idea to mention cheaply AKxxxx, though|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: in case of huge double fit|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: poor Vincent they play as lighting|pg||
nt|3for3:  ew about to gain 5|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: yeah had them before, when im on the table it is do able but now not|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: just claim 3@C C :)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|c4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c6|nt|skaftij:  This will be 5 ims to USA 2|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: believe me:)|pg||
mc|9|nt|3for3:  iceland 5.5 VP's ahead of 9th.  That is approximately 25 imp's...|pg||
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qx|c7|st||md|1ST32H952DAK8762C3,SAQ9HK3DQ95CAJT86,SKJ8765HAT6DJ3CK2,S4HQJ874DT4CQ9754|sv|b|nt|rhelle:  Ns are playing very well; 6 plus scores on difficult hands|pg||
nt|santyclz: Other Table, click on the board and use the single arrow in the bottom right to step through.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Presumably South did not want to show off, by making such an erudite play.|pg||
nt|ady: to Italy    sorry|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: E: "@ss are always 5-0"|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 1 out of 100 will find he deadly @C lead imo|pg||
nt|gulyas: after the @DQ lead, he would play for the likely @DJ onside|pg||
nt|ady: long diamond can be set up before club is established for defence|pg||
nt|famus: that was odd|pg||
nt|ady: did not see the lay  but cant see how only  6 tricks|pg||
nt|hlortz: ?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: its 2@S just made, so 8|pg||
nt|ady: did not see the play|pg||
nt|famus: did he go for @cs?|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes -200 seems odd|pg||
nt|xenya: on 5, the Dutch NS alwso got to slam, 6@D, losing 2 imps  |pg||
nt|rnmalik: 7 boards so far and close match.|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: nice 4@H here|pg||
mb|2D|an|weak 2!d|nt|idc: The other table is slow so we won't be getting comparisons for a while, Brazil will feel that slam is a potential gain|pg||
nt|antoniz: ciekawe rozdanie|pg||
nt|antoniz: 460|pg||
nt|jfeld:  For those of you interested in reading about BART: http://www.bridgewinners.com/index.php/conventions/106-other-conventions/157-bart-modified|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  West 2NT?|pg||
mb|2N|an|15-18|nt|boedhy:  and then finding out he makes the contract|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 13 back looks like a match of big swings|pg||
nt|xenya: another slam for NS|pg||
nt|xenya: 6@C is excellent|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  think this last one will loose|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2h is supposedly 10-12, multi for weaker hands|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@h = 6@hs 10-12 hcp|pg||
nt|rnmalik: another interesting board. 6@C|pg||
mb|3D!|an|!hs|nt|gulyas: I can see the cards, too:) - but he may play for the @HA onside on, say, a trump lead|pg||
nt|pawel90: nam idzie 4@s - im 5@C|pg||
nt|ady: movie says plus 110 last hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: connection dropped out so maybe some data was wrong but the movie says 110|pg||
nt|famus: Hi Vincent --so it get made-good|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 4@SX-2 can be as well|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: Weinstein evaluates his hand too strong for 1NT opening due to good 5-card club suit and 2 aces.|pg||
nt|kit: 2@H call shows 5 spades, 4 hearts, invite values if I remember|pg||
nt|brolucius: The US South did enter on the @CK-Q-J-x-x-x hand and they then pushed E/W to 5@S for a 13-IMP swing.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Lost connection, up to speed now|pg||
nt|gracelin: EW can make 4H with the right guess of S, but they lack the points to go that high|pg||
nt|lechcold: to nie bêdzie prze³omowe rozdanie chyba..|pg||
nt|psyck:  this looks like another mildly swingy board|pg||
nt|ady: n/s   can make 5@D     |pg||
nt|ady: 4@S a save for n/s|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: interesting fight here this board|pg||
nt|athene: i guess 2@S from west, 3@H from north, and south will bid 4@S on the basis of the sixth spade|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  so will end up in 3@H now|pg||
mb|3H!|an|doubleton !h|nt|boedhy:  against 5@s doubled|pg||
nt|pelu: can make - but not bid 4@h|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: so you were right Martin :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and this has stolen the board|pg||
nt|gulyas: SD, not DD|pg||
nt|ady: likely heart game    12 tricks maybe without diamond lead|pg||
nt|pelu: some would bid 2@S in W - but Es sk still stop in 3@s|pg||
nt|bobh1: or 6 possibly|pg||
nt|athene: ok, 2nt showing a good heart raise; same thing|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  Normall NS play 1NT as a good 12-15|pg||
nt|rhelle:  but 3rd and 4th hand, vulnerable, they play 14-15|pg||
nt|rhelle:  to avoid unwelcome penalty doubles|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i have the cc on my second computer|pg||
nt|kit: N-S in other room did well to stop in 2@S making|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 3@S 4@H 4@S and ???|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: Hi Peter|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i think he should raise, if only to block minor rebids|pg||
nt|ady: nice lay of diamond pips   |pg||
nt|bobh1: not on best defense|pg||
nt|xenya: but finding a 4-4 minor-suit fit is always a problem|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  with all the good tens and the @h king onsite he will make 9 tricks...|pg||
nt|jkotor: na 5@c co trzeba trafiæ|pg||
nt|famus: did*|pg||
nt|kit: Nice 2NT call by Martel -- that is a fine contract|pg||
nt|pelu: I dont like to open the field for opp to bid - so 2@S from W from me every time (and pd know that its a weak support)|pg||
nt|athene: 4@C good bid, showing the side suit to help partner judge over 4@S|pg||
nt|ady: west might hope for 2 trumps tricks|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: S 6@S but very weak|pg||
nt|athene: and indeed that would give west the information to double|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|brolucius: Many thanks to our excellent VG operator for the bidding explanations. Roland told us that the operators have been practising for a while and they have certainly been very good.|pg||
nt|kit: Routine 4@S contract, will easily make 10 or 11 tricks, and almost sure to be same at other table.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: so you are cheating|pg||
nt|psyck:  this could make a couple of o/t's or u/t's|pg||
nt|ady: 6 as A@H   and a trump trick to lose|pg||
nt|roswolf: 6@D is not the worst contract ever but doomed here|pg||
nt|ady: has|pg||
nt|rhelle: Yes, not inconceivable that NS will end up in 6@h - which is unfortunate due to the @h break|pg||
nt|athene: since he has a misfit in the minors|pg||
pc|d4|nt|jaapfr: @D lead again:)|pg||
nt|ady: diamond bid by Sementa stopped any chance of 12 tricks|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@H NF |pg||
nt|gulyas: sry for those who do not know the terms yet: SD: single dummy (like a declarer at the table)|pg||
nt|pawel90: po pikowym trzeba dojæ od razu impasem kier do stolu|pg||
nt|kit: 3@D will make also|pg||
pc|dK|nt|oosmanb: 5@d looks like limit to me|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: S will realive with 4@S|pg||
nt|jfeld:  East has a lot of playing strength, but not many controls. well judged|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|twcho: so a partial pick up by USA1|pg||
nt|gulyas: DD: double dummy, seeing all 4 hands|pg||
nt|famus: good lead|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: yes 110 for east west is the correct score|pg||
nt|ady: 10 tricks if defence cash 3 clubs   otherwise 11|pg||
nt|athene: south is pussyfooting around here a little too much i think|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: i presumed:(|pg||
nt|jcwla:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=881 running scores|pg||
pc|c3|nt|boedhy:  Well 5@h also played in the other room..|pg||
nt|fabsayc: just following the guidelines for commentators :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and that great :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: it is not always easy to see what the players are writing to eachother on their small pieces of pater|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: paper |pg||
nt|xenya: are they on a relay route -- seems like it |pg||
nt|xenya: that might help|pg||
nt|rhelle: from (sometimes bitter) eperience, these relay sequences can be tricky - especially with distributions that occur infrequently|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sorry for disconnection...|pg||
nt|xenya: nothing missed|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: no, tx|pg||
nt|rhelle: although the explanation isn't quite what South has got, it did locate the @c fit|pg||
nt|xenya: so N knows S's shape -- should be 6 clubs now?|pg||
nt|athene: combination of sixth spade and the diamond strength...looks like 4@S to me|pg||
pc|cA|nt|pelu: Hi Patrick|pg||
nt|fabsayc: ecatsbridge.com has cc for all participants|pg||
nt|ady: not much in this hand    maybe an imp|pg||
nt|idc: 2NT was a game-forcing hand with some @d support, 3@h we can only guess at|pg||
nt|twcho: 2@s will pose no difficulty for Weinstein|pg||
nt|hlortz: difficult hands with big swings at stake - fun for the kibs, onot so much for the players|pg||
pc|c2|nt|ady: will they stop?|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|lechcold: 4@S = minimum-minimorum, 5@C = 1 as z 5|pg||
nt|barnets: good lead|pg||
nt|idc: Thanks to our Operator, Paul, now we know 3@h showed a singleton|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: no|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: if it was only for not to fool us:)|pg||
pc|hK|nt|rhelle: once your partners opens, you find the fit, you're unlikely to stop under slam with the N hand|pg||
pc|hA|nt|vugraphznt: ok we are up after some difficulties|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: now it should be ok|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: thx to my new glasses :)|pg||
nt|gulyas: commentators have to be careful not to get carried away with DD analysis: players can only see 2 hands, not 4|pg||
nt|xenya: N setting trumps, S cuebids @Ds..., |pg||
pc|h4|nt|rhelle: now South will bid 5@c, I guess. It's hard to be too enthousiastic with no aces|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: well, south knows 4@s will probably 2 off, since partner is a passed hand |pg||
pc|cK|nt|brolucius: I am still getting kibitzers querying that it was right to enter with 3@C over 2@C on that South hand. Everyone knows that they should interfere over a strong 1@C, but it is just ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: as effective over 2@C, when the opponents are almost certain to have a game and will want to show their long suit rather than double you.|pg||
nt|ady: well cashed|pg||
nt|psyck:  he may have placed E with a balanced hand on the lead|pg||
nt|ady: yes|pg||
pc|c5|nt|vugraphznt: Running scores as asked :|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm |pg||
nt|idc: Martel-Stansby play attitude leads v NT, hence the @s6 (lower the card the more leader likes his suit)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: sssssss|pg||
nt|ady: meant in game|pg||
nt|roswolf: sensible|pg||
pc|sT|nt|rhelle: well bid!|pg||
nt|rnmalik: wd.|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|fabsayc: there is a losing line right now|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Is s leading from jxxx or axxx?|pg||
nt|kit: Bocchi has easy jack of hearts shift|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and since North bid 3@h south might think 4@h is not always making|pg||
pc|d3|nt|santyclz2:  Neither is high on the list of preferable opening leads.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: mb these 2 teams can be the ultimate finalists of the BB:)|pg||
nt|bobh1: 4@S indicated duplication|pg||
nt|ady: 13 imps to Italy on the 3NT that should have been10 tricks|pg||
nt|xenya: S's hand is limited to 15/16 perhaps, so N can't conceivably bid grand here|pg||
nt|rhelle: I have to go - playing myself in 45 mins. Bye everyone, enjoy the bridge!|pg||
nt|rnmalik: may get a @H lead which would be natural looking for ruff. If @Hs are 5/3.|pg||
nt|jfeld:  with 3-3 trumps declarer should not have any problems.|pg||
pc|dT|nt|kareno: So the curious raise to 3@s led to a reasonable but doomed contract.|pg||
nt|hlortz: call me chicken no aces no kings no singletons 3 trump only - i'd be more scared of partner than opps |pg||
nt|hlortz: ;0|pg||
pc|dA|nt|gracelin: it's all down the guessing S9 for either 9 or 10 tricks|pg||
nt|hlortz: :)|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|d2|nt|fabsayc: but with no cover would be anti-percentage|pg||
nt|xenya: if S had @DA instead of KQ, 7@C wouldn't be all that stupid -- depends on 3-2 @C and 4-2 @H -- but i'm not sure it's with the odds|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|hT|nt|gracelin: SJ|pg||
nt|antoniz: zagra³ perfekcyjnie|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|kareno: The play I would make in spades would be the ten.  Then you can pick up any Qx or Qxx in south (opener's) hand.|pg||
nt|kareno: Why not?|pg||
nt|athene: lauria thinking about south's distribution|pg||
nt|athene: he has only five clubs|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|santyclz: In a lower level game it's frequently even more useful as the opps may have agreements to handle the situation.|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ady: some luck here  with clubs 5-2 east cannot overruff 6 and 7 of diamonds|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pg||
nt|twcho: 7 imps for USA1|pg||
nt|gulyas: yes, this is THE match to watch now, these teams currently ranked 1st and 2nd|pg||
pc|h8|nt|boedhy:  still 9|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s9|nt|athene: so he has to have 4 in a major|pg||
nt|athene: if it's spades you are down anyway|pg||
mc|8|nt|kiwibridge: all live scores can be found here http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
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qx|o8|st||md|2S54HT742D74CKQT42,SJ6HKJ8DKQ83CAJ83,S83HQ63DAT962C975,SAKQT972HA95DJ5C6|sv|o|mb|1N|nt|jaapfr vg: so both safe for QF|pg||
mb|p|nt|3for3:  'routine' 6@S here|pg||
mb|2H|an|!S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4D|an|key cards asking in !S|nt|jaapfr vg: sorry my scorecard tells differently Dan|pg||
mb|p|nt|skaftij:  IN CR, East was huddling over 4@s|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ritong: right danny|pg||
nt|skaftij:  but now in 6@s|pg||
mb|p|nt|3for3:  not sure what 4@D was|pg||
nt|skaftij:  What is 4@d?|pg||
nt|ritong: 4@d is surprising|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: oh sorry i misread it|pg||
mb|6S|mb|p|nt|3for3:  kc blackwood, of course!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|skaftij:  RKCB |pg||
nt|skaftij:  3@H wld be any splinter, 4@C is quant|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: claim Vincent asap 12 tricks:)|pg||
nt|3for3:  i play the other way around, but that is probably better|pg||
nt|3for3:  that way people wont think it is KC gerber|pg||
nt|3for3:  for some reason, gerber is a bad word in europe|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
nt|ritong: exact|pg||
nt|3for3:  bald hoping for quick ruff|pg||
mc|12|nt|ritong: the french meaning will remain confidential|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: and therefor unknown|pg||
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qx|c8|st||md|2S54HT742D74CKQT42,SJ6HKJ8DKQ83CAJ83,S83HQ63DAT962C975,SAKQT972HA95DJ5C6|sv|o|nt|santyclz: (may not)|pg||
nt|athene: so he has to have four hearts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: also west was more or less marked with spade ace since opponents points had to be divided|pg||
nt|ady: flat   only 1 club out   so heart finesse was safe|pg||
nt|barnets: in open room wst in 5@H on @D8 lead|pg||
nt|idc: I guess declarer could lead twice towards his clubs on a red suit lead, so can't stop him getting a 9th trick on any lead|pg||
nt|xenya: very low-scoring, yes|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 3@H was for me the impulse to bid 4S as S:)|pg||
nt|athene: if NS bounced to 4@S fast, east might bid on, with 5530 with spade void|pg||
nt|athene: for example 2@S 4@S and east might try 4NT or something|pg||
nt|ady: not much on here|pg||
nt|jfeld:  i stand corrected|pg||
nt|jfeld:  well done n-s|pg||
mb|1N|an|14-16|nt|santyclz2:  Good cash by Martel.|pg||
nt|lechcold: nie ba³ siê licytowaæ, rozgrywaæ te¿ umie...nie jest ³atwo o punkty w tych zawodach, prawda?|pg||
nt|ady: e/w have 12 tricks in hearts|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: aktualne wyniki: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|kamyk: ma³o estetyczne to 2@S:)|pg||
nt|lechcold: 2@S nie lubiê..|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if your afraid of partner get a new one|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Good point. Some play that an immediate double shows values, some that it denies them.|pg||
nt|pelu: u are a chicken :):)|pg||
mb|2H!|an|!ss|nt|athene: now it is looking more likely he is short in spades - with 2-4-2-5 he might open 1nt?|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: Italy on the rampage 71 against hapless Brazil|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: but may just play game|pg||
nt|ady: part score hand |pg||
mb|2S!|nt|rhelle:  ah, a good hand for EW|pg||
nt|ady: overcalls gettin lighter and lighter|pg||
nt|lechcold: w 22 Brazylijczycy w³adowali koñcówkê pikow¹|pg||
nt|pelu: even for Fredin this is a very light opening - 1@C could be balanced (11)12-14|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this so called opener scares me more than 2@S on previous hand|pg||
nt|ady: e/w have 26 hcp   but 3NT does not look promising|pg||
nt|jcwla:  The semi-finals shall be played Tuesday and Wednesday 25 & 26 October as a knockout match of 96 boards, (3 portions, each portion comprising two 16-board sessions), with IMP scoring. Subject to the requirement that two teams from the same Countr|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: 1@S shows five and is 11-21 points. |pg||
nt|idc: On Bd 5, Levin in other room has led the same @s7 as in this room v 4@h|pg||
nt|pelu: can Fallenius stop in time?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: my crystal ball sees 3nt next|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 3nt by E with x@H lead ok|pg||
mb|4C!|an|single !c|nt|boedhy:  yes no alert on 2@c|pg||
nt|brolucius: 1NT is not marked as forcing on their convention card.|pg||
nt|gracelin: Italy had an average of 24 VPs in the last 4 matches but they meet resistence here, at least until now.|pg||
nt|pelu: in Or N open and they are on rute to 4@s|pg||
nt|idc: so that seems likely to be a flat game|pg||
nt|famus: 3@Hs|pg||
nt|lechcold: rekontrê lubiê:)|pg||
nt|pelu: no|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Country (if qualified) shall meet in the semi-finals, the first placed team shall also choose among the matches involving the second, third and fourth placed teams, which one will produce the semi-final opponent of the winner of its own quarter-|pg||
nt|jcwla:  match. This choice is to be made at the conclusion of the quarter final draw (before the quarter finals start). Hence the semi-final draw is decided by the first placed team prior to the quarter final stage and remains applicable even if the fir|pg||
nt|jcwla:  first place team then lose their quarter final match.|pg||
mb|d|nt|boedhy:  most pairs play some sort of relay in this situation|pg||
nt|boedhy:  think pass is wrong if west is not limited|pg||
nt|rhelle:  I guess it depends on the EW system|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: GF relay|pg||
nt|rnmalik: @CK nicely placed and can make 9 tricks.|pg||
nt|athene: 1@S must be forcing i guess|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 321? so how to get 3@C tricks?|pg||
mb|r!|an|!cA|nt|boedhy:  5@c is very good |pg||
nt|boedhy:  difficult to see for Muller... now they will bid it|pg||
nt|boedhy:  probably|pg||
nt|boedhy:  does anyone know where we can find the runnning scores?|pg||
nt|kit: whether forcing, seme-forcing, or NF not much choice|pg||
nt|kit: But the 2@S preference is very questionable|pg||
nt|gracelin: with the fitting cards in H, north will bid agressvely|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: przekaz wideo na zywo: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sorry, lost connection|pg||
nt|kit: N-S did well bidding and making 3@D in other room, so chance for USA pickup if 3@C can make|pg||
nt|pelu: correct, Martin -|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Link to COC: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Documents/2011SupplementalConditionsOfContestl.pdf |pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  Bauke not amused....|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Muller that is|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3 possible slams on this board, although 6@C is probably down on diamond lead|pg||
nt|barnets: dec rose K so is down in 5@H|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: aktualne wyniki open: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|hlortz: 6@H is about 50-50 so .... bold or safe??|pg||
nt|famus: lookin for cue|pg||
nt|famus: serious 3NT|pg||
nt|ady: if they reach a slam  will make    spade king is protected with west declarer and will be discarded on the clubs  if A@S is not casshed|pg||
nt|antoniz: ta kontra to co?|pg||
nt|garden2005: na maksy|pg||
nt|kamyk: normalna wspó³praca: mam trefle krótsze od kierów|pg||
nt|fabsayc: needs a heart lead, not a spade to set it for sure|pg||
nt|psyck:  now 4@c & W's hand gets better|pg||
mb|4H!|an|cuebid|nt|santyclz: Anyone for a 3@h bid  by s on the 2nd round?|pg||
nt|kit: How can North possibly take another call?|pg||
nt|brolucius: E/W stopped in 2@H making, for China, on the board where we saw South make a pre-emptive raise to 3@C. 5 IMPs.|pg||
nt|athene: of course if he has a singleton spade you are down too :) but if he has doubleton, what are the odds it is Qx?|pg||
nt|kareno: He is the opening bidder which changes things somewhat.|pg||
nt|kareno: And no @h k|pg||
nt|athene: yes, sure, it was close call|pg||
nt|athene: the @H10 here makes 6@H better|pg||
nt|athene: i mean better than it might have been :)|pg||
nt|gracelin: but he doesn't like his CK after the double|pg||
nt|pelu: but the D of 2@C sh slow N down|pg||
nt|idc: West's 3@d was a minimum hcp splinter|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: aktualne wyniki kobiet: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=882|pg||
nt|pelu: so Fredin's "opening" created a swing - but not to Sweden|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: "opened really light, sorry"|pg||
nt|hlortz: we know i'm chicken :) but w hand doesnt look like opener to me...|pg||
nt|pelu: best chance for edcl is @HA and @D10|pg||
nt|hedyg:  http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live is the link for the live stream|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  but gets adjusted if both US teams win their QF|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  then they must meet in the semi|pg||
mb|p|nt|kamyk: ta kontra, to typowa akcja Narkiewicza - nie ma ziewania|pg||
nt|idc: I would have thought that that would turn East off, but he's gone on anyway|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 3@S C best |pg||
nt|ady: cannot go wrong in the trump suit|pg||
nt|garden2005: x = mam dwie lewy defensywne|pg||
nt|psyck:  I'd expect them to find slam now|pg||
nt|athene: or "almost forcing" - i.e. partner is only allowed to pass it with a subminimum response|pg||
mb|4S|nt|kit: South could have a doubleton spade and a 6-count it would seem.  Unless these bids don't mean what they look like.|pg||
nt|kareno: 6@h is practically laydown while 6@s relies on 3-2 spades pretty well.|pg||
nt|gracelin: yes, indeed.  A good stop, probably enough for them to ake the lead.|pg||
nt|gracelin: take|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i think li should have mentioned his hearts before raising clubs|pg||
nt|famus: ok so 3NT was @s cue|pg||
nt|garden2005: i dwa kiery|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Thanks Jordan, so basically Italy would normally get to choose who is in their bracket,  but here there are 2 US teams so they must be in the same half.|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  about this auction: I find that doubling a splinter with the suit is not that useful|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  I play it as lead-directing for the higher remaining suit|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  in this case @H|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: it is E thinking if anyone should ask :)|pg||
nt|jfeld:  So most likely Italy and Netherlands will play in the semi's unless one of them loses in the quarters.|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  And apteker will get the @c right|pg||
nt|lechcold: wa¿ne, ¿e walet trefl jest tam gdzie byæ powinien:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Li is really taking his time here|pg||
nt|twcho: the J can be from QJxx(x) or J10x|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: i seniorow: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=883|pg||
nt|ady: thats the best part of 3NT  difficult no to give something on lead|pg||
mb|5S|an|can you help me in !ds|nt|pelu: looks like 4@S down 1 or 2 = 5-6 IMP for Italy|pg||
nt|ady: diuble of 3@H game try    3@S  would be competitive|pg||
nt|oosmanb: interesting auction|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: red lead give red score here|pg||
nt|ady: but wrongsided   now likely to go down|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: wrong sided the contract here|pg||
nt|athene: not the best methods to bid 1@S with that east hand|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: we all agree including the kibs:)|pg||
nt|athene: you know partner will be bidding 1nt a lot and wrongsiding 3nt|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: don't think east should bid a systematical 1@s with balanced hands if NT should be played by him|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 2x:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: here some pairs play 2@d as 18-19 BAL or natural over transfers after 1@C|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  no Italy and Neth. will play in the quarters unless one US team loses their QF|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: new zealand is the surprise of the tournament so far, they are leading usa2 by 35-10|pg||
nt|barnets: west played north for @DA as he is quite capable of having|pg||
nt|idc: Ahha, West it was who took control with a 4@s RKCB|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 4@H X could be easily 2 down|pg||
nt|jaapfr: y with @DQ falling 4@S can be made|pg||
nt|hedyg:  if the double by E was a gameinvite i find it courageous|pg||
nt|ady: as lone as they shift to a heart before trumps played  just 9 tricks|pg||
nt|ady: long|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: wideo z pokoju otwartego: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live|pg||
nt|garden2005: mo¿e sete ³ykniemy :)|pg||
nt|lechcold: ³ykniemy|pg||
nt|garden2005: +100|pg||
nt|psyck:  other room started with a strong @c & @h splinter...surprisingly neither pair found their wat to slam|pg||
nt|bobh1: decent game but unlucky|pg||
nt|ady: looks like 2 clubs  1 spade and a diamond  |pg||
nt|fluffy: whata nightmare to play something at trick 2 from hand|pg||
nt|ady: not that great Bob   K@H missing as well|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  if one US team loses, Italy picks|pg||
mb|6S|nt|athene: if south knows his partner's shape then 6@H looks clear, with the good suit texture, even not knowing of the @H10 opposite|pg||
nt|kareno: Still it is hard to posit such a perfect fit.|pg||
nt|athene: a pity - my guess is south found out distribution but didn't know he was facing so many prime cards|pg||
nt|kareno: I would guess Italy will find the slam in the OR.|pg||
nt|athene: and he didn't have any way to make a mild slam try in hearts - if he had done so, north would surely have accepted|pg||
nt|barnets: a good pickup here for USA|pg||
nt|idc: Perhaps West could have tried 4@d instead, East cues 4@h, and they might stop in 5@c|pg||
nt|ady: well bid|pg||
nt|kit: Madala must have played ace of spades -- otherwise that doesn't make sense, and clear to play ace anyway|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:   http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|boedhy:  for the runnning scores click on live scores bermuda bowl|pg||
nt|boedhy:  still think much more system default or bidding mistake from Gower that they were not bidding it|pg||
nt|boedhy:  But Muller wil be thinking about this...|pg||
nt|rhelle:  sure - but as South you're still kicking yourself|pg||
nt|boedhy:  only one in 7@d on the board... Chili against Italy bog lead for them also|pg||
nt|yke:  some players might just open 1NT. But maybe they play 13-15 NT since they play precision?|pg||
nt|famus: 4S not alerted looks like rkc?|pg||
nt|pelu: but 2@S making, so even down 2 could be a flat board|pg||
nt|xenya: just for comparison, in the USA2-Sweden match 68 imps have been exchanged over the first 7 boards|pg||
nt|xenya: 58 rather|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 1@C-1@H-2nt?|pg||
nt|athene: yes, lots of possibilities, but getting a strong balanced hand to play it is one of the most important goals|pg||
nt|ady: hand 22   4@S making here is flat   in spite of a diamond lead in OR     south switched to heart without cashing 2nd diamond|pg||
nt|ady: diamond switch now very good for defence|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: i think he will play @H9 or @H9 now:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: north trying to ask questions about 1NT, if it can be 4144 for example|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: 15+ - 18 1NT.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: it was,|pg||
mb|p|nt|Gerben42:  5@S was "I have a problem in @D, bid 6 if you can solve it"|pg||
nt|eggy:  Are there still carry forwards from the round robin?|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  with @DA, W might have shown KC to have 7 as option|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Yes eggy|pg||
pc|c5|nt|brolucius: Anyway, as Kit remarked, they have had to take a rather close view to reach game after their chosen start.|pg||
nt|santyclz: Looks like 15+ to me.  Maybe a 5 card major is a barrier for them.|pg||
nt|gracelin: bad lucks for China that HK is not on side.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: that is 71-0 after 11|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  carryover is decided by the RR match between the teams|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Ok. So I believe Italy will get to choose which one of Netherlands, USA 2 and Israel/USA 1 it wants to play.|pg||
mc|12|nt|fabsayc: diamond lead will create problems with spades 4-2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: in fact i dont see a way to make the hand|pg||
nt|idc: mind you, i've been in many, many worse slams than this one on a finesse|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and 5@H 2 and queen of hearts|pg||
nt|ady: slam easier to get to via strong club|pg||
nt|bobh1: transportation issues|pg||
nt|ady: even gteat club play of the Queen   pickint up 3 club tricks may not be enough|pg||
nt|ady: great|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: @C98 are mighty here|pg||
nt|ady: can still make 3 club tricks playing the queen   but difficult line |pg||
nt|Gerben42:  either + 1/2 the IMPs of the RR if the team that won the match was ranked higher, or -1/3 the IMPs if the team that won the match was ranked lower|pg||
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qx|o9|st||md|3SJ52HKQ73DA76CA93,SAT94HAT8DT5CKQT8,S876H9642DQJ94C74,SKQ3HJ5DK832CJ652|sv|e|nt|3for3:  i suspect that will be flat|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: 1nt ew enough|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: not NS:)|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|ritong: if you really want to know, google is your friend, but perhaps the slang senses are not completely listed|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: same result more or less|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: NS a weak NT if so W passes?|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|nt|jaapfr vg: any kib knows?|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|sT|pc|h4|pc|c5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hA|mc|4|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SJ52HKQ73DA76CA93,SAT94HAT8DT5CKQT8,S876H9642DQJ94C74,SKQ3HJ5DK832CJ652|sv|e|nt|santyclz2:  Slightly less than a 50% slam -- too good for Roland.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Sementa checking the @D suit, for 4@S|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sry,|pg||
nt|ady: was not completely sure to show Q@H    should be confident of a 10 card fit  |pg||
nt|famus: i like their clarity and speed|pg||
nt|hlortz: think usa2 wont miss many slams ... just so they dont bid too may losing ones|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: waterbreak, few minutes|pg||
nt|hlortz: wie break here :)|pg||
nt|hlortz: wine|pg||
nt|ady: anyone know shere USA2 are in the standings?|pg||
nt|famus: is the youner age a factor here David??:)|pg||
nt|hlortz: i have this sticky n key lol|pg||
nt|pelu: OR NS 2@S - if making falt board :)|pg||
nt|ady: part score |pg||
nt|jfeld:  it choses the match anyway|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: play was very fast there after the @c lead :)|pg||
nt|jfeld:  unless both USA teams win, then its choice is nullified if Italy chose to play a US team|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: if it goes just something like 1@S 2@H [gf] 2@S 3@H, then north might find a 4@D cue or something to show a good hand for hearts |pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  North has a monster hand|pg||
nt|gracelin: The Italians can win imps either by overbidding or underbidding.  You have to admire their judgment.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this is why when you are in 2s you draw trumps and claim 3, so you dont do something stupid on the important boards|pg||
nt|ady: nothing nuch on here|pg||
nt|idc: So we have taken just 55 mins to play half the boards at this table, plenty of time left|pg||
nt|jaapfr: open room time problems are expected (only 3,5 boards played in 50 minutes)|pg||
nt|psyck:  they also play kickback, so 4@d would have been KC|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  exactly|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  except that 4th place isnt decided yet :)|pg||
mb|1C|nt|athene: some would overcall 1nt here, but pass looks fine with that shape|pg||
nt|athene: west may double 2@D|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  1@c = 16+|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and indeed Prooyen Verhees also bid it and even made a uptrick|pg||
nt|brolucius: The KR evaluator program seems to take a bizarre valuation of jacks. Roland quoted an example where Q-J doubleton was allocated only 0.75 points, compared with x-x. Seems much too ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: little for me.|pg||
nt|athene: wait till they bid hearts, then double for takeout :)|pg||
nt|gracelin: 1D shows H, as before|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  I doubt Campos, Villas-Boa have ever gotten a slow play warning, much less a penalty!|pg||
nt|hlortz: usa2 started this match in 4th i think|pg||
nt|famus: :) i think they shud ALLOW it--bet- wud improve over all standard:)|pg||
nt|ady: thx for information kibs|pg||
nt|ady: 2 level high enough  |pg||
nt|ady: this hand going nowhere good|pg||
nt|athene: he certain will if it's non-forcing|pg||
nt|athene: he is in the "pre-balancing" position, to some extent|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: "you played 1@c -- how did you bid that" :)|pg||
nt|eggy:  Then they may choose Israel, if they can as that is their best carry forward|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: Their system got the bidding too elevated before south could describe his hand.|pg||
nt|antoniz: Walet kier by³ zlokalizowany,wiêc tylko 300|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup quiet hands now|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  1@d = 0-8|pg||
nt|athene: that's the classic recipe for that south hand|pg||
nt|hedyg:  they started 10 minutes later|pg||
nt|famus: at present tying with Netherlands in 2nd spot|pg||
nt|oosmanb: thats a scary 2@H|pg||
nt|athene: in other words he doesn't want 2@D to get passed out and it might well be about to |pg||
nt|ady: dbl competive  showing a club suit and spade tolerance|pg||
nt|athene: sometimes this double is called "snapdragon"|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Correct.|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  in the VC, France has done their job with 25 VP vs Trinidad, but can be caught by both Netherlands and Germany if they win their match big|pg||
pc|cK|nt|fabsayc: the dealer burned itself out with the grand slam|pg||
nt|ady: will this be 2@H X|pg||
nt|ady: no|pg||
nt|roswolf: the poles have no fear|pg||
nt|rnmalik: very light 1@D, 3rd seat.|pg||
pc|c4|nt|boedhy:  Apteker was very happy to be in it and played very save..|pg||
nt|rhelle:  1@h = 19+|pg||
nt|rhelle:  2@d = 6-8, balanced|pg||
nt|boedhy:  can they get 6@s in south....|pg||
nt|rhelle:  so any 4333 or 4432|pg||
nt|boedhy:  which is very good|pg||
nt|gracelin: this is the Vul for weak NT.  North is in the range but decisde not to open on 5-4 distribution.|pg||
nt|pelu: 2@h and 3@C sh make - but thats max|pg||
nt|gracelin: when north did not open weak NT or rebid NT, south knows north has an unbalanced hand and should have 5+ clubs|pg||
nt|pelu: China in 2@H in OR|pg||
nt|lechcold: 2@D = kiery|pg||
nt|barnets: 3N|pg||
nt|twcho: The south player, Edgtton, is only 19 years old and is probably the youngest player in this event.|pg||
nt|athene: but it's just a takeout double really, no need for a special name, no matter how pretty|pg||
pc|c6|nt|rhelle:  2@h = relay|pg||
nt|rhelle:  3@c = 4333 with a 4-card minor|pg||
nt|boedhy:  but the system will let it play in North probably and |pg||
nt|ryskiel_: o jaki ba³wanek siê pojawi³? |pg||
nt|garden2005: faktycznie, akurat chmurka wszed³ po twoich s³owach Rysiu :)|pg||
nt|jkotor: co im siê chyba pomyli³o i Jac myli|pg||
nt|jkotor: bo raczej nie o szlemiku po 1BA przeciwnika?|pg||
nt|morales1: test|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: http://www.bridge.esp.br/player/diegobrenner.php|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: to Jacek wytlumaczyl 2@d jako kara i starszy|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|athene: now versace runs to hearts and north doubles |pg||
nt|athene: but south won't (shouldn't) stick this, surely?|pg||
nt|athene: cue 2@H, check for 44 spades, bid 3nt otherwise|pg||
nt|athene: even though it's nice to go for penalties at this vulnerability, you know opps surely have an 8-card fit|pg||
nt|athene: so defending at the 1-level might well be wrong|pg||
nt|kareno: I'd think not.  His pass of 1@d doubled was likely influenced by the vulnerability.  As it is north was on the thin side of the double and might have eschewed the double of 1@h ...|pg||
nt|kareno: with such thin hearts.|pg||
nt|gracelin: 3NT is not making|pg||
nt|pelu: some work for 9 tricks here, |pg||
nt|gracelin: and as usual, Bocchi judged correct;y to stop in 3C|pg||
nt|barnets: looks ok to me|pg||
nt|idc: E-W task here to stop in time, since 4@s is as high as you'd want to get|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Brasilian player as a rule tend to be very fast.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: sad pics on the news, the south island of NZ is under flood waters|pg||
nt|ady: need to attack spades to beat this|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Yes very surprising how close it is|pg||
nt|jfeld:  in the Venice|pg||
pc|s4|nt|brolucius: On this hand, East may have upgraded his hand to 18 points, with two tens that accompany other honours, and two 4-card suits.|pg||
nt|pelu: difficult lead for East|pg||
nt|gracelin: yes, but with Bocchi beind the wheel, I thk he can hold his loss to at most 4 tricks.|pg||
nt|ady: looks though they are heading for game|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: fast play --> fast dinner|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 4 b 40 minutes then:)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: ty|pg||
nt|ady: will knock out A@C  and likely 11 tricks|pg||
nt|jaapfr: oefff 2@SX+1|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: http://www.bridge.esp.br/player/marcelobranco.php|pg||
nt|jkotor: ale z Kysiem to Jac gra³, ¿e to 4@d i 5+stary|pg||
nt|kit: Same 3@C call as made at other table.  I don't understand it.  It seem like game very unlikely opposite mere 2@C rebid.|pg||
pc|s6|nt|rhelle:  3@d = relay|pg||
nt|rhelle:  3@s = 3-3-4-3|pg||
nt|rhelle:  as South promises at least 1 control (a king), the North hand is now looking pretty good|pg||
nt|boedhy:  then 6@s is is a little better then 50% because you can guess the @d and on a @d or non @d lead you get info|pg||
nt|brolucius: Had he opened 1NT, which I assume shows 15-17, West would doubtless have stayed low. |pg||
nt|santyclz: Changing the 10,8 to the q,j on the hand above yields 17.5 points, still low but more reasonable.|pg||
nt|kit: Note that Weinstein didn't even search for a 5-3 spade fit.  He judged that with 3-3 in hearts and clubs it was very unlikely that spades would take 2 more tricks than notrump, ...|pg||
nt|kit: which would be needed for 4@S to significantly gain over 3NT.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Excellent point.|pg||
nt|yke:  3NT is questionable to me. with a 5-3 fit you should play in spades when the long spades is the weak hand and in NT when the long spades is the strong hand|pg||
nt|yke:  because you might not be able to enjoy the long spades because of the entries|pg||
nt|kit: with AQx of clubs, there is no entry problem to the long spades|pg||
nt|yke:  good point|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Einarsson had a lot of water and now he goes to the toilet|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Amazing!  @ss are only 4-1 not 5-0.|pg||
nt|twcho: a trump lead will probably set the contract|pg||
nt|psyck:  KC is key card & kickback is bidding the suit above agreed suit as roman keycard blackwood...just don't ask me any more :)|pg||
nt|psyck:  this looks like a normal puppet stayman sequence|pg||
nt|ady: 7 tricks looks ok    need an 8th from somewhere|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|kit: At matchpoints there would be more incentive to look for a 5-3 spade fit, since making 1 extra trick in spades is worth something.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: after laying down his cards|pg||
nt|psyck:  not so normal rather|pg||
nt|psyck:  3@d likely denying 4 or 5 card major|pg||
nt|psyck:  & 3@s puppet back to 3N maybe|pg||
nt|athene: a very good example here of how bad it is to hold three small in RHO's suit|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|rhelle:  ah! a variation :)|pg||
nt|rhelle:  3@s is a strong 1-suiter, |pg||
nt|gracelin: even with this lead, if declarer is to ruff spade, he might lose a 2nd trump trick.|pg||
nt|pelu: some cross-ruffing af 9 tricks now - even play for 10|pg||
nt|gracelin: so likely there are still 9 tricks|pg||
nt|barnets: def have no tricks|pg||
nt|ady: the lay out is friendlt|pg||
nt|barnets: 2 clubs one spade|pg||
nt|barnets: one heart or 1 diamond should make|pg||
nt|jaapfr: re:)|pg||
nt|pelu: 1@D is a close call 5 to 7 tricks for S|pg||
nt|oosmanb: with @D 3-1 this cant make on any defence|pg||
nt|athene: south's @Sxxx is a "death holding"|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  btw there were years that those 3 teams were the 3 medalists *g|pg||
nt|jfeld:  all 3 of those teams were heavy favorites pre-touranment to qualify|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  one of them will be out|pg||
pc|h5|nt|rhelle:  although why North wants to play a @s contract himself is a mystery to me|pg||
nt|boedhy:  well South africa has bid it and made it|pg||
nt|barnets: same contract in other room|pg||
nt|xenya: i would never open as S 3rd in hand, no matter what|pg||
nt|eggy:  Indonesia were perhaps a surprise package, but they have been very consistent.|pg||
pc|hK|nt|rhelle:  4@c is a cue|pg||
nt|twcho: now declarer may succeed by ruffing three rounds of @s in dummy|pg||
nt|famus: -1|pg||
nt|athene: you frequently are going to lose the first three tricks|pg||
pc|hA|nt|idc: With the preempt, declarer not likely to take 2 club finesses through South, and also likely to get trumps right|pg||
nt|jkotor: tu jest odwrotnie, wiêc co kto pomyli³ (3@h wygl¹da na "mam 33+ stare do 5+ partnera")|pg||
nt|rnmalik: agree.|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|ady: both 3NT  23 hcp|pg||
nt|rnmalik: very favourable placement of cards.|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  in the Seniors 7 spots are safe, 8th between India and Germany|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  also Indonesia in so for them it is a good tourney with two teams in the KO|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Running BB: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=881 |pg||
nt|jcwla:  Running VC: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=882 |pg||
nt|jfeld:  Also on http://www.bridgewinners.com|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Running seniors (so to speak): http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=883 |pg||
pc|s9|nt|idc: but still some work to do|pg||
nt|twcho: running score can be found at http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: or the short version http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|twcho: :)|pg||
nt|athene: with the lead coming through partner's king or queen|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sK|nt|rnmalik: not easy. 8 tricks there and work for the 9th.|pg||
nt|xenya: and, if i were told to open at gunpoint, it would be 1@H (prompted by a kibitzer)|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Would you take @S or @C finesse?|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|boedhy:  now...... sign of or low @d lead...|pg||
nt|rhelle:  ai ... North may pass 4@s now|pg||
nt|lechcold: nietrafnie Grzegorz|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i suspect declarer will play to ruff fourth spade if necessary|pg||
nt|jfeld:  easy to tab between all 3 events on Bridge Winners|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|rhelle:  I still think North would have done better to keep relay'ing|pg||
nt|brolucius: West at the other table did try to cash two spades against 5@S doubled and allowed the game to be made. |pg||
nt|athene: i suppose one down against 4@S making in the other room|pg||
nt|kareno: That heart five in north could possibly have been promoted to a trick with persistence in diamonds after cashing clubs.  The play is complex|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: very quick @H9|pg||
nt|athene: he is thinking that if he doesn't overtake this and cash the @DK for a spade pitch, the defence can draw trumps and cash two spades|pg||
nt|kareno: In that case the nine was a poor choice because it opens him to the promotion.|pg||
nt|athene: but the trick comes back for the defence with a trump promotion in diamonds anyway|pg||
nt|athene: well, he is always losing out one way or another - even if he didn't waste the nine, the defence can prevail|pg||
nt|athene: for example on a diamond if he can ruff high north can pitch a club and get a club ruff with the @H5|pg||
nt|idc: West won't be expecting a doubleton heart on his left, which might be the surprise that dooms this contract|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Particularly when s shows up with @h length.|pg||
nt|kit: Not much can happen here -- 5 unavoidable losers.|pg||
nt|rnmalik: imo @S better.|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|nt|garden2005: Kuma kamufluje -1100 i nas zagaduje|pg||
nt|lechcold: Polki tymczasem prowadz¹ z W³oszkami 6 imp|pg||
nt|lechcold: a my przegralimy kiepskiego szlemika w rozd 6|pg||
nt|ady: n/s going down instead   |pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|rhelle:  but, let's be honest, it's a marginal slam. Around 50%, so staying out of it is no shame|pg||
nt|pelu: @C9 8 7 6 are strong ruffs|pg||
nt|gracelin: east has doubled 1C, so he doesn't have a singleton HK.|pg||
nt|gracelin: now ruffing finesse in spade is the safe route|pg||
nt|gracelin: if instead, going to dummy with HQ and play another trump, West can win CK and play D to force declare losing control.|pg||
nt|barnets: with 4 tens and 3 nines though :)|pg||
nt|barnets: very nice intermediate spot cards|pg||
nt|ady: it is possible to mis guess spade|pg||
nt|garden2005: Kuba* ... no taki Kubu, Jakub|pg||
nt|jkotor: nie dzieje siê dobrze jak kto zapomina pierwsz¹ odzywkê (wejcie po 1BA)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: chwila przerwy, S wyszedl do toalety|pg||
nt|jkotor: w drugim 1100 siê wydarzy³o, ale 1BA systemowo 14-16, a potem pechowa ucieczka|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: little break, Madala not feeling very well|pg||
nt|psyck:  Running Scores: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  well I have to leave you now - see you later in the tourney|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|brolucius: 5@C doubled, I mean.|pg||
nt|ady: this a good save   4@H  makes   even on a low spade lead|pg||
pc|sA|nt|psyck:  OK, 3@d just denied 5 card major for them & 3@s showed 4 card @h|pg||
nt|psyck:  this variation helps hide openers hand shape|pg||
pc|s8|nt|boedhy:  and the small @d lead|pg||
nt|psyck:  there are a zillion puppet variations out there...|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|idc: It might have worked better to let that run I think, double dummy now to make it|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Thanks Gerben|pg||
pc|hT|nt|kareno: Note the diamond ten, calling for a club (and why did north not play the spade queen on that first spade trick to show possession of the jack?)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well this hand could have been made too|pg||
nt|idc: the @c8 run i mean|pg||
pc|h6|nt|athene: anyway, a game swing back to bulgaria when duboin made a costly lead of @CA from AQJ against the 4@S|pg||
nt|oosmanb: sorry will make now|pg||
nt|ady: needed low spade from west|pg||
pc|d8|nt|athene: to be fair, it was harder for him to lead a heart when declarer had actually bid the suit|pg||
nt|kamyk: ze smutkiem patrzê na to 6. rozdanie, to przyjêcie inwitu mozna t³umaczyæ psychik¹, bo technicznych przes³anek nie by³o |pg||
nt|lechcold: 1BA 14-16|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|ady: K@H exit now|pg||
nt|barnets: yes he needs to guess it|pg||
nt|barnets: same situation exactly in open|pg||
nt|barnets: @HK to ace|pg||
nt|barnets: the n@SQ|pg||
nt|barnets: from dec|pg||
nt|ady: north knows that east is aware of the diamond position and cannot afford to cash the queen  so would exit with a heart even with K@S|pg||
nt|barnets: brings home contract|pg||
nt|barnets: made by grue in open|pg||
nt|lechcold: pamiêtaj o tym Karolu|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ady: yes   that would be winning line|pg||
nt|oosmanb: yes low @s from west was only way to beat now, as East has J@S and can get in with K@C|pg||
pc|h9|nt|idc: but this isn't an easy contract|pg||
pc|d2|nt|vugraphznt: toilet break now|pg||
nt|athene: 2@S would be interesting contract|pg||
nt|athene: let's say @DA lead, north drops queen|pg||
nt|athene: then @HK, small diamond|pg||
nt|ady: with Austrialia lying 8th and China 11 before this match started   and this and 1 other match of the round robins left  this mat very important  as far as chances to qualify for ...|pg||
nt|ady: last 8|pg||
nt|athene: north wins, plays @HA, heart|pg||
nt|athene: south ruffs, plays a third diamond|pg||
nt|athene: declarer can ruff high and pick up the trumps, thanks to the nice layout|pg||
nt|athene: ah no, sorry, he is short a dummy entry|pg||
nt|ady: 4@H on hand 23 where n/s had a save in 4@S  almost flat   overtrick in OR|pg||
nt|athene: he can only lead spades once from dummy after ruffing |pg||
nt|athene: and can't quite trump coup|pg||
nt|athene: so 2@S one down i suppose|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|boedhy:  thirst imps to south africa|pg||
nt|ady: but if the king was with east that would fail|pg||
nt|barnets: so in open dec decided west had @SK so corectly led the @SQ in case he had !KJXX|pg||
nt|barnets: @SKJxx|pg||
nt|xenya: now he will run diamonds i think. eventually squeezing S|pg||
nt|rnmalik: now the squeeze.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|twcho: and there is a live video stream at http://www.wkbridge2011.com/en/live|pg||
nt|rnmalik: and @S ace and exit.|pg||
nt|xenya: he can even play hearts now|pg||
pc|c7|nt|brolucius: His partner had opened 1@H and he could not believe that he would hold five spades.|pg||
nt|rnmalik: @S ace and small better and finally scoring AQ@C.|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|pelu: so "only" 9 tricks|pg||
nt|xenya: likely a push though |pg||
nt|xenya: BRB|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|psyck:  now cashing a @d & @s exit works|pg||
pc|d4|nt|brolucius: Still, a heart switch looked OK, because East could then switch back to spades.|pg||
nt|gracelin: for the same effect.  9 tricks|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|barnets: must get it right now|pg||
nt|barnets: maybe not|pg||
nt|ady: if Bocchi does not make  USA will be well ahead|pg||
nt|barnets: the great players usually get this situation right at the table|pg||
nt|ady: giving due consideration|pg||
nt|barnets: using their table presence|pg||
mc|4|nt|vugraphznt: a short break - players are going to the bathroom|pg||
nt|gracelin: China reached semi-final in the 2009 BB, but have a rough start here.  They tied Sweden in the last match. |pg||
pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SAKT97HATDQT8CK32,SQ8542HQ74DJ65CA5,SJH2DK97432CQJT74,S63HKJ98653DAC986|sv|b|mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|3for3:  2@H looks odd, I would have expected 1 or 3|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: did well to get 3 down but else 1nt+2 by EW so a push very likely|pg||
mb|3H|nt|skaftij:  6, occasionally 5 CC says|pg||
mb|p|nt|skaftij:  does not mention 7 :-)|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: aha tx 1 kib told me NS 1nt 14-16 : that explains all ty|pg||
nt|3for3:  5 of a minor can be defeated by a ruff|pg||
mb|p|nt|3for3:  either one, curiously|pg||
nt|ritong: bald kept quiet  amazing|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Baldursson not quite strong enough in high card to double 3@h|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: mb on 4@H a 4nt bid by N|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|h2|pc|s6|pg||
nt|skaftij:  yes|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SAKT97HATDQT8CK32,SQ8542HQ74DJ65CA5,SJH2DK97432CQJT74,S63HKJ98653DAC986|sv|b|nt|rhelle:  althouh advertised, still a nice lead|pg||
nt|barnets: well done in both rooms|pg||
nt|twcho: Weinstein has timed his play accurately without any danger of going down|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 1st flat board since the 3 we started with|pg||
nt|famus: shud b  apush|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes 5@c ood cheap insurance|pg||
nt|hlortz: /good/|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: OK we are back in the game|pg||
nt|lechcold: zabrak³o @H10...|pg||
nt|ady: I think west should have worked that one out|pg||
nt|bobh1: dueling strong notrumps|pg||
nt|roswolf: rehi|pg||
nt|rnmalik: and 9 tricks on opening of @D and no @C guess required.|pg||
nt|jfeld:  The other table has easily surpassed this one.|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Grue and Lall are both extremely fast|pg||
nt|jfeld:  but sometimes their opponents slow them down :)|pg||
mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|4H|nt|ady: n/s likely to play 3NT|pg||
nt|jfeld:  tough bid for Joel, the suit is good enough that it makes 3@S clear|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: yesterday they had a match of 16 boards in 1hour 10 minutes|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  true|pg||
nt|boedhy:  two times|pg||
nt|boedhy:  three times|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Wijs could know that relaying would keep his hand hidden from opps|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and can he find out a @d control that way Rob?|pg||
nt|rhelle:  yes, he could|pg||
nt|rhelle:  this is why I'm surprised|pg||
nt|kit: Easy to reach slam here it looks like -- South can just take control|pg||
nt|rensph:  hi all|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: interesting decision for south now|pg||
nt|athene: pass, 3nt, 4@H, double?|pg||
nt|kareno: I doubt south can double for penalty which is no doubt what he would want to do.|pg||
nt|antoniz: szlemiczek na impasie,zobaczymy|pg||
nt|idc: borderline slam hand this|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: system systemem ale takie 4 króle i dam bez wsparcia mog³oby sk³oniæ do zdewaluowania rêki czy¿ nie tak?|pg||
nt|kit: E-W play 12-14 1NT -- Martel chose to downgrade his hand.|pg||
nt|ady: 4@S looks good for n/s|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz2:  Looks like another 6@hs available.|pg||
nt|famus: till now this match has gone very fast speed|pg||
nt|kamyk: no tak, to trochê ³agodzi ocenê (ale nadal mi smutno:) )|pg||
nt|ady: maybe short on a trump lead|pg||
pc|sK|nt|kareno: My choice under the circumstances would probably be the losing 3nt.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: back live|pg||
nt|hedyg:  :)|pg||
nt|gulyas: welcome back everyone|pg||
nt|hedyg:  2@s is a position..you might bid 2@d and pass pd's bid|pg||
nt|ady: this is the fastest gamed I have seen for a long time   10th hand in around 45 minutes|pg||
nt|athene: the double of 1nt here is takeout of diamonds, of course|pg||
nt|athene: so south passes just with a good diamond stack|pg||
nt|ady: even then hard to stop 2 club ruffs    so 7 trump tricks and 3 hearts|pg||
pc|s2|nt|fabsayc: declarer will need to guess the hearts|pg||
nt|lechcold: paqs|pg||
nt|lechcold: passs|pg||
nt|lechcold: proszê:)|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|brolucius: 2NT is just marked as strong raise on the cards, but must be GF or South would not have bid just 3@H. |pg||
nt|santyclz: One of the few hands where blackwood answers all your questions.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Most players use it as game-forcing rather than 'limit or better'.|pg||
nt|kareno: If west leads that tempting diamond it is all over for south.|pg||
nt|athene: well 3nt hasn't got many tricks even if the @DQ isn't found|pg||
nt|kareno: Actually 3nt is doomed anyway but the diamond makes it quicker :)|pg||
nt|psyck:  the open room, which started 10 minutes later, in a vain hope of getting comparisions, as now 4 boards ahead|pg||
nt|psyck:  *are now|pg||
nt|xenya: strong 1@C and some effective obstruction by EW|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the main clue being north will already have shown two aces|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  6@ss fails on a @c lead.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: system say 5 card major ask GF'|pg||
nt|kit: Good shift by Martel.  He can see that declarer, known to have a minor, needs to ruff clubs in dummy.|pg||
nt|jfeld:  I thought north might make a responsive double, but he would be poorly placed over south's frequent 4s bid|pg||
nt|eggy:  EW may not think -1 is so bad on this hand as 5 of either minor needs a ruff to be found|pg||
nt|jfeld:  at the other table, they were more conservative and only opened 2@h|pg||
pc|s9|nt|boedhy:  south difficult decision now|pg||
nt|rhelle:  he didn't seem to think it was that hard :)|pg||
nt|boedhy:  first double?|pg||
nt|rhelle:  penalties, no doubt - 16+|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: West did not alert 2@C, thinks natural|pg||
nt|boedhy:  second double still take out|pg||
nt|rhelle:  2nd is take-out|pg||
nt|idc: N-S play a (mostly) game-forcing 2/1|pg||
nt|idc: and no doubt the sequence to 3@h will be forcing|pg||
nt|idc: South has bid this as a minimum opener with little slam interest, so North may give up now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@H?!|pg||
nt|pelu: I can see 6@S is on, but I dont exp NS to bid more that 4@s|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|kiwibridge: and what if the answer showed @S|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: w'll hurry|pg||
nt|jfeld:  over the 2@S-3@H continuation, I think North has a clear double|pg||
pc|h2|nt|gulyas: W has a tough lead|pg||
nt|gulyas: needs to avoid leading a @D to beat this|pg||
nt|hedyg:  might lead @s|pg||
nt|gulyas: that could work|pg||
nt|pelu: Kibs dont agree with me - they go for 6@s|pg||
nt|fabsayc: north has a huge hand actually they will bid slam|pg||
nt|hlortz: martel is pushing w/ north hand opposite 2n jump and @S support|pg||
nt|athene: 4@S now from south surely|pg||
nt|athene: well, he might bid only three, reasoning he has shown good values already|pg||
nt|athene: and his @DKJ likely wasted facing void|pg||
nt|ady: heart lead would mean a possible heart ruff   but then there would be 3 club ruffs for the same result|pg||
nt|athene: still he does have a seven-loser hand and he is vulnerable|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: he does know 5-4 fit, singelton can be good enough|pg||
nt|athene: 4@S solves matters|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|gracelin: 2D is a safer contract than 1NT which can be set with 3S, 3C and a H.  Bocchi made a great lead to pave the way for a successful defense.|pg||
nt|idc: Had South tried a courtesy cue bid of 4@d (as he might) then I think they would have gone on|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  After 2 boards with good chances for USA, one with a chance for Brasil.|pg||
nt|gulyas: anything but a @D really:)|pg||
nt|famus: @C double hook gives him 9|pg||
nt|antoniz: ocena do kitu|pg||
nt|jcwla:  Great article by Steve Robinson about "What is 4NT?": http://www.districtsix.org/Articles/Article%202011-02.aspx |pg||
pc|cQ|nt|boedhy:  2@c minors|pg||
nt|rhelle:  oh, that lead will make EW trump short|pg||
nt|rhelle:  and if then NS play 3 rounds of trumps, the roof will come down|pg||
nt|boedhy:  this will be disaster for EW|pg||
nt|rhelle:  especially as the West hand is dummy, so the defence is much easier that way|pg||
nt|boedhy:  yes|pg||
nt|boedhy:  the fact that he could lead the @s ten|pg||
nt|pelu: what a lead|pg||
nt|jaapfr: @D lead very unlikely imo|pg||
nt|garden2005: proby te¿ nie dos³yszeli|pg||
nt|kamyk: Hej ty, na dzikim koniu, gdzie pêdzisz Kozacze?|pg||
pc|c6|nt|rensph:  quiet 1NT for EW here, diamonds break 4-4 so will end up with 6 tricks for defense|pg||
nt|gracelin: admittedly, he has no good lead with his hand.  He'd rather attack dummy's suit than declarer's suit.|pg||
nt|gracelin: south thinks to overtake and shift if north leads from doubleton K10, south has no entry to eastablish his spade anyway.|pg||
pc|c3|nt|hlortz: so did we lose the comparisons hen we crashed earlier?|pg||
nt|famus: @s|pg||
nt|rnmalik: @D switch required.|pg||
nt|athene: 3@S sort of torments partner a little|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: re|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|pelu: in OR @H-lead from N - and easy make|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: W pokazal 4333 10-13|pg||
nt|kit: seems like declarer might have been better off setting up a sure spade trick.|pg||
nt|ady: yes agree with wexcellent trump support and singleton club  full value for raise to game|pg||
pc|h4|nt|boedhy:  now he will try to ruff a @d|pg||
nt|boedhy:  so close to 6 tricks...|pg||
nt|kit: If Weinstein chooses to lead from a king he will lead clubs, since no double of 5@S|pg||
nt|santyclz: What a waste of a hand, a good relay pair could use 11 rounds of bidding to get to the same contract.|pg||
nt|kit: But the passive lead reasonable, and now declarer takes them all|pg||
nt|gracelin: but he allows Bocchi to have led from K10x.  He must have seen it before.|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer can duck this as well and defenders still need to defend carefull to ge all their trics.|pg||
nt|famus: wht a lead Bocchi made--amazing|pg||
nt|antoniz: wietne zagranie|pg||
pc|d2|nt|xenya: as a result, NS are in a thin game that, i predict, will go down |pg||
pc|hK|nt|brolucius: Well, I am back after an alarming computer crash. All is OK again, thank goodness. Did I miss anything good? |pg||
nt|barnets: yes|pg||
nt|ady: yes   quite a lot of intersting hands|pg||
nt|ady: fortunate lay of clubs    should be 9 tricks      south knows whwere every card is so not too difficult|pg||
nt|roswolf: the clubs are favorable this should make|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: and now unbeatable|pg||
nt|ady: now likely 11 tricks   ruff finesse a club|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: wasn unbeatble before lead infact|pg||
nt|ady: dont think could ever really be beaten|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: forget typing errors : same meaning|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
mc|9|nt|idc: though as I said, it is borderline: a @c lead might doom it on a different layout, or hearts both wrong, or @s suit not coming in|pg||
nt|hlortz: well bid|pg||
nt|fabsayc: has not made it yet|pg||
nt|psyck:  ok, still enough time...|pg||
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qx|o11|st||md|1SA6HKT85DQ9CAKQ93,S54HAQJ3DJ8753CT2,SQT82H92D642C8754,SKJ973H764DAKTCJ6|sv|o|nt|jaapfr vg: oh tx again kibs : now I understan whilst some kibs said dirty words to me (they translated your gerber Henri:)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Grue and Lall are away from the table i see on the screen, probably short break|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011  for live video. Turn sound off if you want to listen to the BBO commentators instead (we hope you do :))|pg||
nt|ritong: sorry about that, dude  blame it on sprung:)|pg||
nt|3for3:  I will take a break too...brb|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: he is our only USA commentator:)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: oh Vincent you see the same screen as we do??|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm  for running scores|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: yes i see the same screen|pg||
nt|ritong: merci roland|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: if there is time pls tell us (not all know including me) what an operator all must do at the same time?|pg||
nt|skaftij:  standings|pg||
nt|skaftij:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|famus: i think he shud b able to operate and enjoy as well:)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: a bit more precise pls|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Seems Iceland is 5 VP's ahead of China, but results may be delayed|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: well i have to check the screen if someone alerts since the other program wont tell me, i have to check what they write on the papers, follow bidding and play (Which they do very ...|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: fast) and i cant here the claims so i usualy have to wait and im back behind the next board :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: grue and lall are now back but iceland is gone now|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: all on your own (looks impossible with 4 players like this)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: and iceland is back now next boards on the table|pg||
nt|ritong: okay|pg||
mb|1C|an| |mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: a 20-20 and have to stay low not to go down|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|1N|nt|skaftij:  Actually Chaina lost 11 imps on bd 8 and is down 13-17|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: 2@C or 2@D can|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: that kind of hand is a plus for big @c systems|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: and I have to provide Jan v Cleeff with information about the other dutch teams :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 1nt can go -2|pg||
pc|s5|nt|ritong: allowing to stay low|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|nt|jaapfr vg: y here -1|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: with @D lead -2|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d7|pc|c7|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c9|pc|h3|pc|c8|pc|dT|pg||
pc|c3|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ritong: defense will claim soon|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|nt|jaapfr vg: kibs:5@D and 3@H max for defense IF @D lead and @H switches|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg||
nt|3for3:  0.5 VP's separate 7/8/9|pg||
nt|ritong: ow|pg||
nt|kareno: They should get it right now|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: Iceland included?|pg||
nt|3for3:  iceland is 4 ahead of 9th|pg||
pc|s4|mc|6|nt|kareno: Somehow qualifying rounds always seem to come to the last match and mathematical possibilities|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Wooldridge plays 3@c on bd 11|pg||
nt|ritong: hello karen|pg||
nt|kareno: Henri :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: after b11 Holland-usa1 33-17|pg||
nt|kareno: I'm asked how USA 1 are doing|pg||
nt|kareno: There we are - thanks|pg||
nt|ritong: http://bridgewinners.com/|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Hello Karen ;-)|pg||
nt|kareno: Skafti :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: commentators try to be proactive:)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: some problems here, i cant load board 12 now. so we probably have to skip this one|pg||
nt|ritong: ergl|pg||
nt|kareno: Vincent :)|pg||
nt|ritong: same happened previous round|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: i will have to relog, will be back soon|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: claim -1 here and skip 12?|pg||
nt|ritong: and the next_next board did not work either|pg||
nt|ritong: perhaps ask for manager's help?|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  It always happens with 5 boards to go|pg||
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qx|c11|st||md|1SA6HKT85DQ9CAKQ93,S54HAQJ3DJ8753CT2,SQT82H92D642C8754,SKJ973H764DAKTCJ6|sv|o|nt|vugraphznt: Director came in to warn they have 40 min. left|pg||
nt|vasanti: .|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  1 pitch is all he needed from the @ss.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: South said: i had only 7 but a very good 7..|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and said EW still had to lead|pg||
nt|jaapfr: lol|pg||
nt|famus: http://www.wkbridge2011.com/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|famus: for results--thnks George |pg||
nt|pelu: 17 IMP to Italy in this board Egypt down 1 in 6@S|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is a straightforward 4@h|pg||
nt|rnmalik: slam time.|pg||
nt|ady: held to 10  I think could have made 11|pg||
nt|jfeld:  so 6 IMPs to USA 2|pg||
mb|1C|nt|rensph:  looks like some excellent slams available for NS here, as long as N plays|pg||
nt|idc: Since N-S play 12-14 NT, the 2NT may not be minimum of course|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: we have 6 to go|pg||
nt|twcho: another pedestrian 3NT|pg||
nt|garden2005: dobitka niestety|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: play was exactly the same in other room.  It sure doesn't feel right to me.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: przekaz wideo z pokoju otwatego: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ady: last 1 down1 for a push  |pg||
nt|psyck:  Lall-Grue have bid their socks off here, good result for USA 2|pg||
nt|ady: 13 tricks without spade lead|pg||
nt|jcwla:  K & R on prev E hand = 13.85: http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi?hand=KQ75+KQ43+KJ8+JT |pg||
nt|xenya: time for EW|pg||
mb|p|nt|garden2005: prawda, ¿e az sie pisac nie chce? :(|pg||
nt|kit: Pretty hard to stay out of 4@H now -- but N-S might not quit bidding.|pg||
nt|ady: but did not want to take any risks|pg||
mb|2H|nt|rhelle:  3NT + 1 is quite a nice result from the other table|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 1@H shows spades|pg||
nt|idc: In a 2/1 system I always like 2NT to be the 'bucket bid', were all the poorish hands go|pg||
nt|gulyas: @Hs could have been 3-3, or @HT falling|pg||
mb|p|nt|rensph:  south will show a strong hand with diamonds which should get north excited enough to try for slam|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: DBL = take-out of @ss|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: muszê zajrzeæ do Kantara - on co pisa³ o ilu kalafiorach w jednej grz¹dce...mo¿e kto pamiêta?|pg||
nt|hlortz: ah i see we are about 5 boards ahead of OR|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: yes the open room started about 15 minutes after we did cause of the live vu-graph|pg||
nt|lechcold: na drugim stole 3@D w  10 i bêdzie strata|pg||
nt|kamyk: ale rozgrywka Gawrysia godna uznania|pg||
nt|lechcold: czy¿by 2@S forsowa³o u naszej pary? nietypowe ustalenie nad Wis³¹|pg||
nt|lechcold: tak, walczy³ ³adnie|pg||
mb|2N!|an|Lebensohl (I guess) - transfer to 3!c|nt|vugraphznt: Nice tool, 3@D by lauria would be very good overcall in @S, perhaps more|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: RDBL = 3@ss|pg||
nt|hedyg:  but his very good 7 was shown in the 2@s bid already, 4@s was too much imo|pg||
nt|rnmalik: can make 7@S.|pg||
nt|xenya: a beautiful grand|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 3@H max, 4315 4 controls|pg||
nt|xenya: will be interesting to see how many EW's will accomplish it|pg||
nt|ady: any game contract by n/s looks doomed  with clubs badly placed|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  1NT = relay|pg||
nt|brolucius: East perhaps hopes to be able to redbi 3@D, to show that hand.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: given their light openings getting the chance to play 1@S may be an advantage|pg||
nt|twcho: east may probe for slam while west will reject at every opportunity|pg||
nt|gulyas: he was vul, thats all he neeeded:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: East: @D fit,  and then 0@C ah|pg||
nt|pelu: 13 IMP comming up to USA - Sweden only 4@S in OR in B26|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: australia ranking 8th and china 10th so a very vital RR match|pg||
nt|jfeld:  The Netherlands has gained some ground on USA 1 and is now firmly in second over USA 2|pg||
mb|3C|nt|rensph:  I'm not sure I agree with 5@D here|pg||
nt|psyck:  similar start here|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: questions and thinking bij w|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 4@C is 5 controls|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  2@c = @c|pg||
nt|twcho: 2@d is GF checkback|pg||
nt|hlortz: thx|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: interesting pass by shi, not going back to 2@c|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznt: Gawrys, zapytany czy 2@s forsowalo, odpowiedzial ze nie|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@H here going down|pg||
nt|fabsayc: perhaps a lot|pg||
nt|psyck:  looks like they will duplicate the auction al the way through|pg||
mb|p|nt|gracelin: Wonder how 6C was made at closed room.  Seems the bad break in spades will sink it.  SA and spade will surely beat it.|pg||
nt|barnets: grandslam here|pg||
nt|brolucius: 4@C show at least a sound raise to 4@H and promises nothing so far as a club control is concerned.|pg||
nt|barnets: bid in poland sweden match|pg||
nt|brolucius: South's redouble shows a club control.|pg||
nt|barnets: by sweden for swing|pg||
nt|lechcold: jeli teraz zatrzymaj¹ siê w 4@D to....|pg||
nt|famus: @SQ perhaps is the right card|pg||
nt|garden2005: Gawry walczy³ ³adnie ale poleg³ na wysokoci|pg||
nt|lechcold: musia³o siê Jackowi co pomyliæ zatem...nie wierzê, by z tym co mia³ zg³osi³ 2@S NF|pg||
nt|lechcold: z pe³n¹ wiadomoci¹|pg||
nt|psyck:  3N will not be so great on a @c lead, but S not done bidding|pg||
nt|oosmanb: making lots with the @S lead|pg||
nt|xenya: all you need is clubs no worse than 4-1 plus some additional chances|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: now has to bid 4@c, whereas an immediate 3@c might get him to 3@c only|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: I guess this was a Lebensohl sequenze from N|pg||
nt|jfeld:  this looks like it is headed down 1|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: I could have passed 1@c -- but last time you went down 3 so I didnt dare to do it again - said Hurd|pg||
pc|c2|nt|rensph:  They did manage to avoid 6@D but I believe south could've cuebid over 4@D|pg||
nt|twcho: nothing about @d|pg||
nt|oosmanb: will take all of 40 secs to play|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: mb bids 3nt\|pg||
pc|c4|nt|rhelle:  2@d = relay|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Muller is known for his slow play |pg||
nt|rhelle:  3@d = 3-1-5-4 exacty|pg||
nt|kit: 2@D by Bobby would not be natural -- however, 2@S shows invite values|pg||
nt|brolucius: Madala will now hope for the best in trumps, I guess, and pot 6@H.|pg||
nt|kit: Martel fails to take his plus score -- big swing on his decision.|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 3nt very doomed|pg||
nt|athene: west's mere 1@S was a bit wet|pg||
pc|c6|nt|brolucius: What would he bid with 7-8 and a doubleton spade?|pg||
nt|kit: he would bid 2@H, transfer to 2@S|pg||
nt|brolucius: I see. It is good to have such accurate methods.|pg||
nt|gracelin: NS conducted a Gazzilli auction here.|pg||
nt|gracelin: 2C is normal response to forcing 1NT or any 16-17 up hand, 2D is 8 p and GF|pg||
nt|twcho: 2@h shows 3 cards in @h|pg||
nt|twcho: 2@s is probably natural|pg||
nt|twcho: and 2N deny 4 cards in @s|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: no alert for 2@S|pg||
nt|twcho: tks|pg||
nt|hlortz: easy game Q@C falling nicely|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and 40 minutes for 6 boards is not much...|pg||
nt|brolucius: For the past few weeks I have been doing voice commentary instead of tap-in commentary. It is good to see that I can still type OK. |pg||
nt|santyclz2:  That has the benefit of a rebid of opener's suit showing 6.  Using the rebid of opener's suit as the |pg||
nt|idc: The 2@s bid in this sequence is invitational, 5-cards @s and unbalanced|pg||
nt|ady: absolutely dooomed especially played by south  where no chance of 2nd spade trick|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|nt|barnets: 5@S was a fine bid by south|pg||
nt|barnets: holding just J high trumps|pg||
nt|barnets: he kept a grandslam option open|pg||
nt|brolucius: I wouldn't have risked it with those trumps!|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 5@S was less serious try then 5NT|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: than|pg||
nt|brolucius: Many thanks to Bob for the bidding explanations. How they find time for it, as well as putting in all the bids and plays, I will never know.|pg||
nt|ady: what is best lone in 7    ruff 4 clubs in south hand?|pg||
nt|barnets: with such good trumps perhaps north should have accepted the invitation to the party|pg||
nt|twcho: OK, east decide that slam is quite far-stretching and simply end the auction by bidding 3NT|pg||
pc|c5|nt|boedhy:  luckly easy 3nt..|pg||
nt|barnets: the key to bidding many slams is who has control of the high trumps|pg||
nt|barnets: north knows his partner has invited a grand slam|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  "bucket bid" is another popular method.|pg||
nt|idc: And I don't think it implies holding hearts as well as the spades|pg||
nt|ady: now can beat this|pg||
nt|hlortz: ah a safety play|pg||
nt|famus: going down cud b a big swing|pg||
nt|psyck:  E did well not to double in spite of pd's double of 3@h|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|pelu: East (Sementa) lead @sA - but then in trick 2 @DA :(:(|pg||
nt|famus: cud b a swing|pg||
nt|gracelin: I don't blame him.  He was looking at his 2 Aces, and these Chinese did bid slam off 2 Aces before.|pg||
nt|barnets: and he has AKQ of trumps|pg||
nt|twcho: just a matter of overtricks|pg||
nt|hlortz: they stayed ouy of trouble|pg||
nt|twcho: yes, even 4NT is not cold|pg||
nt|twcho: the 1@c opening has dissuaded north from leading his stronger minor|pg||
nt|twcho: and this lead immediately give declarer the 9th trick|pg||
nt|ady: e/w have spade link so nowhere to go for declarer|pg||
nt|athene: well, i think if you were going to lead a spade from that east hand you would start with the ace or queen|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: at least -2|pg||
nt|ady: yes   but at least a chance of something happening for n/s   this way are going several down|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|pelu: so 11 to 14 IMP on way for China|pg||
nt|pelu: no down 1: 2x@h and @Ss|pg||
pc|d8|nt|famus: may be--cant say till it ends|pg||
nt|gracelin: As north has not shown his 6th spade here, East may not find the killing defense.  However, without cashing SA, I thk 6C is still in trouble.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: he has shown 6sp and 4H already|pg||
nt|pelu: will S pass to 4@s?|pg||
nt|gracelin: don;t thk North will ass, South has shown 8+|pg||
nt|ady: not enough entries to ruff 4 clubs|pg||
nt|brolucius: You can see how important the 4@C bid was set the slam ball rolling. If you could only bid 4@C with a club control, it would be a tricky time for North.|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 3@D bit looks a bit odd here|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: aalthough i do not know the exact meaning|pg||
nt|athene: a bit of an overbid, but he was worried opps have a big spade fit (as they do)|pg||
nt|ady: 2 or 3 down|pg||
nt|athene: so maybe just trying to pre-empt to some extent|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: i do not like in that position to preempt when i am so strong|pg||
pc|d2|nt|brolucius: The advantage of doing the tap-in commentary is that you have a split second to check whether your comment is completely stupid before you press enter.|pg||
nt|kit: yes, but then when you do say something stupid you look so bad :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Against that, some duff comment is preserved for posterity on the VuGraph web-sites. If you say something clueless, no-one records it and you can hope that the spectators thought ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: you were joking.  |pg||
nt|ady: no safety   3 hearts 1 spade and 1 club|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|boedhy:  still @h stop|pg||
nt|gracelin: pass|pg||
pc|dA|nt|rensph:  North might very well have bid 6NT after discovering @SA and the lack of a club stopper in partner's hand|pg||
nt|famus: he knows 11@s|pg||
nt|hlortz: but could be UNsafety play|pg||
pc|d9|nt|ady: ruffing 3 diamonds in runs risk of 10@H making for defence   I think small slam is enough|pg||
nt|kit: some suggest West should have doubled 4@S -- but the 4@H call might have been a lot weaker since it is preemptive|pg||
pc|d3|nt|jaapfr: what about N to X 2@C?|pg||
nt|ady: not now|pg||
nt|rnmalik: wd|pg||
nt|xenya: auction looks very confident -- well done|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 4@H is no @S A, K, Q or AKQ|pg||
nt|ady: can get out for 2 down  defence should take 4 spades 1 heart and 1 club|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|brolucius: "He writes books about bridge, he can't possible be that stupid..."|pg||
nt|kit: Weinstein handled the spade suit quite effectively|pg||
pc|dT|nt|ady: come on  I want my cup of tea|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|barnets: on this hand the @DKQ fall in 3 rounds|pg||
nt|barnets: so dec needs only ruff 2 diamnds|pg||
nt|barnets: but that is fortunate|pg||
nt|ady: but grand slam not good enough |pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, that's right.|pg||
nt|barnets: and the practical odds is close but maybe not enough|pg||
pc|d5|nt|twcho: a tie bd|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|sA|nt|vugraphznt: claiming |pg||
nt|gracelin: only 10 tricks and 11 imps to China|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Just a short break here -- Li has to go somewhere else :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: smoker?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: no I dont think so :)|pg||
nt|barnets: but north did not know that south was so minimum for his invite|pg||
pc|s4|nt|vugraphznt: 3 sp for you Bocchi says|pg||
nt|barnets: and maybe should have bid it anyway|pg||
nt|brolucius: It's not a situation where you need to bid an against-the-odds contract because you are behind. All the VPs from all the round-robin matches are added, so you must play with the ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: odds throughout.|pg||
nt|ady: taking long enough in 6@H     |pg||
nt|barnets: the grandslam was bid at both tables in the poland sweden match|pg||
pc|s2|nt|xenya: nmot that it was a very useful piece of information for E|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|famus: I wud've preferred a Hi @C and come back to fin|pg||
nt|ady: problem for declarer last hand was no entry if heplayed  top clubs and queen did not fall|pg||
pc|s6|nt|gulyas: good def here|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|h6|nt|athene: i am surprised south didn't just continue hearts to force lauria|pg||
nt|ady: claim|pg||
pc|hK|nt|brolucius: In a club game, you would expect 60-70% for bidding a small slam.|pg||
pc|hA|nt|santyclz2:  N-s cards sitting nicely.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: what would you do as N ? X or pass|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h9|nt|barnets: open room are on their last board now|pg||
nt|ady: have been very slow at this table|pg||
nt|brolucius: Bocchi must be thinking: 'Just as well I didn't bid the grand, if he is playing this slowly.'|pg||
nt|ady: thinking J9XX soades with east?|pg||
nt|ady: spades|pg||
nt|idc: Declarer was spared a @d guess by North's play of J, so hand will be over soon|pg||
nt|ady: dummy not squeezed as all the clubs can be discarded |pg||
pc|h4|nt|jfeld:  so another push. |pg||
pc|h5|pg||
mc|8|nt|athene: south gets squeezed first :)|pg||
nt|athene: so now you throw the @C5 for the overtrick|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: lauria thinking, did not pay much attention anymore :)|pg||
pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2S7642HT72DAKT2C98,SA95HQ4D63CKJT654,SKT3HKJ96DQJ754CQ,SQJ8HA853D98CA732|sv|n|nt|skaftij:  Hi again|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: re|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|mc|9|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2S7642HT72DAKT2C98,SA95HQ4D63CKJT654,SKT3HKJ96DQJ754CQ,SQJ8HA853D98CA732|sv|n|nt|athene: tut tut, lauria not paying attention|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: he says sorry and sigh's   but with a little smile :)|pg||
nt|pelu: and here NS will hope for a win on this board - for sure not losing 11 IMP|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: talking about system|pg||
nt|brolucius: West might have led a singleton spade, so J-9-x-x with East was not so likely.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: claimed 6,  agreed making 7 afterwards|pg||
nt|brolucius: I wonder if they are running into time trouble.|pg||
nt|hlortz: dull bring back the goulash hands :)|pg||
nt|ady: north opposite a passed hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: South never counts tricks, he thought down 3, they said, same as Bocchi.. :) he said if you start dbling i will start paying attention|pg||
nt|ady: could have played 1 top clu though and then returned with a diamond to then ake a view 2nd round|pg||
nt|jkotor: Generalnie to w rozdaniu 10 5@d na 8 atutach i 21 PC nie jest szczytem marzeñ jeli przeciwnicy potrafi¹ wistowaæ|pg||
nt|ady: another quiet hand|pg||
nt|ady: may be push|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Sweden -NZ only on board 7|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|d|nt|kareno: Yes he had a winkle|pg||
nt|famus: yeh that wud b my line|pg||
nt|fabsayc: stansby could have returned a club|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 4@S C but NS can go higher:)??|pg||
mb|1D!|an|!hs|nt|brolucius: 3@D better than double on that shape.|pg||
nt|gracelin: indeed.|pg||
nt|idc: We heard a comment at the table earlier that 'spades are always 5-0', so I guess this 4-1 counts as a favourable break|pg||
nt|ady: maybe part score in diamonds|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: might go 5@CX-2|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: this 20-20 board|pg||
mb|d|nt|athene: i double versace passed 1nt|pg||
nt|athene: i doubt :)|pg||
nt|rensph:  W might be tempted to bid a thin game here, but it's NV so might very well pass this|pg||
nt|lechcold: szlemik w trefle teraz?|pg||
mb|2C|nt|santyclz: So much for 3nt by n...|pg||
nt|kit: 4@C a little scary -- Weinstein thinks opponents might have a slam.|pg||
nt|pelu: but a problem for NS that they never found their 5-3 fit in @c|pg||
nt|lechcold: transfer na kolor wroga to Stayman|pg||
nt|ady: light opening from west|pg||
nt|hlortz: his was more tactical than technical imo he decided if he lost a @C right away def would be harder|pg||
nt|bobh1: can make a game|pg||
nt|xenya: 1N is 12-14, possibly bad 15, if i remember|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: yes|pg||
nt|rnmalik: you are correct.|pg||
mb|2D|nt|athene: but many would just bid 3nt rather than use stayman|pg||
nt|ady: that makes the diamond part score awkward for n/s|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Hopefully they get to finish|pg||
mb|3C|nt|santyclz2:  And onside too!|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: as they were in bd. 9 ;)|pg||
nt|idc: Can't find 2NT on CC|pg||
nt|jaapfr: lollllllllll|pg||
nt|famus: cud well b--agree|pg||
nt|jkotor: Zobaczymy, czy znajd¹ kolor|pg||
nt|fabsayc: an excellent spot that may earn some imps|pg||
nt|xenya: pass alerted -- asks to redouble?|pg||
nt|xenya: yes|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: XX is 4/4 any|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Running Scores: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=881|pg||
nt|jfeld:  China losing to South Africa and has slipped down to 9th by a half VP!|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and as you can see VERY CLOSE race|pg||
mb|p|nt|gulyas: :)|pg||
nt|ady: 9 tricks it would seem in hearts|pg||
nt|antoniz: bardzo trudny,ale mo¿e|pg||
nt|lechcold: Gawry nie zg³osi³ 1BA...graj¹ jako nietypowo:)|pg||
nt|jkotor: z Kysiem Jacek gra³ 2@h = 54+ m³ode w sile inwitu i potem relay o dok³adny sk³ad|pg||
nt|xenya: ah|pg||
mb|p|nt|idc: if it asks for short suits, that 3@c will encourage him|pg||
nt|lechcold: 3BA to idealny kontrakt w tym rozdaniu..4@H mo¿na przegraæ|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: 5@D was a sensible option by North. Some would bid 5@C, claiming that they couldn't be any better for a passed hand. But South only made a simple overcall.|pg||
nt|brolucius: The VuGraph records are saved in various repositories (one is Nikos Sarantakos's VuGraph Project), so we can look up how other teams bid and made 7@H.|pg||
nt|ady: was worn out by then|pg||
nt|idc: But then if that is a return short suit try, South will be discouraged|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: E thinks|pg||
nt|garden2005: podzia³y s¹ @d 3-3 @c 3-2 ... szczyt marzeñ|pg||
nt|kamyk: a 3@C to pewnie 5-4 w m³odych i 9-11; niektórzy u¿ywaj¹ tu 2@H na tak¹ rêkê, ale to bardzo podstepne i wirogenne:)|pg||
nt|jkotor: ano racja Grzesiu, choæ piki dziel¹ siê nieszczególnie|pg||
nt|jfeld:  not a good time for either of those teams to get a time penalty|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: we have 50 minutes left of the match|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: so no timepressure here|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Hurd elects not to compete|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|rensph:  Creative approach by W - had east shown a 5card major he'd be ok with that, too|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this contract is touch and go, good guess in diamonds may see it home|pg||
nt|idc: ahha, am told 3@c is forced relay, then opener makes short suit try|pg||
nt|ady: may get too high|pg||
nt|famus: 6@s does come home --i think|pg||
nt|psyck:  other room has finished early, maybe Lall will login now to take a look at his teammates progress :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: S asking W...|pg||
nt|ady: hand 26  a good swing for Chin   they are playing 2@CX   and made a game in this room|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: agree with all S passing?|pg||
pc|d8|nt|gracelin: They may end up in 2S with the Gazzilli.|pg||
nt|antoniz: dzielni ruszyL|pg||
nt|lechcold: kara mog³yby dzieliæ siê gorzej (drugi walet, drugi-czwarty król przed dam¹), wa¿ne by trefle by³y 3-2|pg||
nt|jkotor: E ma ekstremum w ramach 9-11 A, A, K i 10ka na podpórkê|pg||
nt|jkotor: lepsza karta to tylko 55 z tymi samymi honorami|pg||
nt|xenya: he might double now, with the idea of converting 2@H to 2@S|pg||
nt|rnmalik: low scoring match and China leading so far.|pg||
nt|eggy:  I don't think that's particularly underbid it though|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 5 teams within 4.5 VPs|pg||
pc|dK|nt|kit: He could be a lot better as a passed hand.  Stiff in a major.  Queen of clubs someplace else.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes.|pg||
nt|gracelin: All othe bids by south will show the strong hand|pg||
nt|gracelin: this is one disadvantage of the Gazzilli.|pg||
nt|gracelin: this time he has a very healthy 5-card suit.  North is worry south ma bid the same way with a much weak 5-card suit.|pg||
nt|kit: Martel knows declarer doesn't have A10x of hearts or first trick wouldn't have been ducked, so continuing hearts is safe.|pg||
nt|kit: And he had to lead low, since Stansby might have started with ace-doubleton.|pg||
nt|oosmanb: not if you're this NS|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|ady: no top losers here  but 6@S may prove difficult with 4-1 split   |pg||
nt|ritong: he briefly considered a @s J switch|pg||
nt|kit: no need for that, since if Stansby has king of spades the jack of spades shift can come later.|pg||
nt|jkotor: Gawry nie mo¿e wymyliæ A@s u partnera, a bez tej karty szlemik zawsze bêdzie s³aby|pg||
nt|ady: still got the diamond fit|pg||
nt|xenya: but preferred a cautious pass, being vulnerable|pg||
pc|h2|nt|fabsayc: ?|pg||
nt|jkotor: seniorzy taryfa w plecy na Duñczyków, tylko panie dobrze w tej rundzie|pg||
nt|antoniz: to mo¿e wtedy od razu 2karo?|pg||
nt|ady: 2@CX may not make   but great against 620|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|fluffy: my limited understanding of gazilli says that 2@c is either nat or 16-18, 2@d is 8+ any, and 2@s shows spades and clubs minimum|pg||
nt|gracelin: sout may pass 1NT with 12-13 pts in order not to be involved in the Gazzilli.  But with 14 he fears losing game if north has 10-11, even a passed hand.|pg||
nt|gracelin: south|pg||
nt|idc: Stansby declines the game-try but 4@c leaves North a different problem|pg||
pc|hK|nt|jaapfr: oeffff|pg||
nt|ritong: thus he sticked on @hs|pg||
nt|antoniz: wtedy AK karo i K trefl,te¿ niele|pg||
nt|oosmanb: @s are nice and friendly. will probably lose 1@C and 2@D|pg||
nt|oosmanb: double dummy can make 5@D|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|fabsayc: actually this strange looking play is quite good|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: for running scores|pg||
nt|fabsayc: saving spade king for a late discard|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  As long as the x isn't takeout.|pg||
nt|idc: His dbl looks sensible|pg||
nt|famus: ya-4-@s stops it and a top @C ruff|pg||
pc|h3|nt|fluffy: the reason why south bid 2@c instead of passing 1NT is that he might be facing an 11 point balanced hand|pg||
nt|gracelin: you are quite right.|pg||
nt|ady: dont think they can get out for less than 2hearts and eventually 2 diamonds|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: West showed 6-8 with red suits|pg||
nt|kamyk: W ma wprawdzie minimum, ale dobre honory - mo¿e móg³ jeszcze zanêciæ przez 4@S?|pg||
pc|h7|nt|jaapfr: ty but then E 3@H not 4@H Gerbrand?|pg||
nt|jkotor: AK@d i K@c to potrzeba dzia³ki atutów i ¿eby pik sta³ jak kara gorzej ni¿ 33|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ady: that lead made it easier|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Board 10, instead 4@S Netherlands played 2@S and earned very important 9 imps.|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|rensph:  N missed a chance to give partner 2 ruffs there, now it looks like 3@D is making|pg||
nt|hedyg:  surely a direct 3@d over 2@H would have been gf and this was a slight invite|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: SHI a bit SHY:)|pg||
pc|dA|nt|fluffy: but normally 2@s is with 4 clubs|pg||
nt|gracelin: EW play a very natural system and use standard sugnals|pg||
nt|gracelin: signals|pg||
nt|xenya: no longer, Rashed -- The Netherlands gained 9 imps on 10 when they stopped in 2@S and made 10|pg||
pc|d3|nt|kareno: I use two-way stayman and with game values, I do always check.  That my hand is balanced (4333) doesn't mean partner's is also the same, particularly with the modern tendency to ...|pg||
nt|kareno: open a lot of 5/4 hands 1nt.|pg||
pc|d4|nt|oosmanb: but not straightfoward|pg||
nt|oosmanb: could perhaps insure contract by giving an open @S since he's missing entries to hand|pg||
nt|ady: can make 11 now|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|kareno: So the auction, say, 1nt - 2@d (gfs) - 2@s - 3@s offers a choice of contract.|pg||
nt|rensph:  declarer will have to choose between finessing in clubs or spades|pg||
nt|idc: I think I like the logic behind SOuth's lead: partner has short hearts so where are E-W tricks coming from except ruffs, so lead a trump|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|nt|xenya: somewhat ironically|pg||
pc|sK|nt|boedhy:  this is close|pg||
nt|rhelle:  yes, one or two good decisions required|pg||
nt|boedhy:  needs to play @d|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and as Muller is playing it will take some time|pg||
nt|boedhy:  then he will play @d offcourse|pg||
nt|rhelle:  indeed- if only to get information how to play @ss|pg||
nt|kit: Declarer has nervous moments -- feels a lot better with king of hearts onside|pg||
nt|gracelin: after the HK lead, the H10 is irrevelent|pg||
nt|antoniz: chyba jednak 55|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|gulyas: nice invention/convention:)|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|nt|rensph:  ...unless defense solves this problem for him|pg||
pc|hT|nt|gracelin: the D shift deceived declarer, playing D strength with E|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Or, as Papi says:  "You need a reason *not* to lead trumps".|pg||
nt|idc: At the vulnerability East wanted to suggest a 5@c sac to his partner, hence the 4@c bid|pg||
nt|idc: If any blame is to be awarded, West's dbl perhaps deserves it (though -300 instead of -140 no disaster)|pg||
nt|oosmanb: that's possibly the first time in my life I've predicted Duboin's line of play|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|c5|nt|pelu: thats a mistake by S - sh take @DA and play 3x@s|pg||
nt|hlortz: 1 imp if he makes 4|pg||
nt|ady: playing safe for 10    still 11|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|kit: Now will strip out hearts and clubs, and then try to duck a spade to West|pg||
nt|antoniz: zagrali poprawne 5tr|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3SJT9HQDK2CJ876432,S7432HT642D9875C9,SAQHAJ873DT43CKT5,SK865HK95DAQJ6CAQ|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|jaapfr vg: agreed 3@C was spot on:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzns: auction: 2@C p 2@D p 3@C all pass|pg||
nt|3for3:  2@S was a transfer to clubs...|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: on board 12|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: and exact 9 tricks indeed|pg||
nt|3for3:  lall must have been close to doubling again|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ritong: wow|pg||
nt|skaftij:  holy cow|pg||
mb|p|nt|skaftij:  against 14-16 NT|pg||
nt|3for3:  if 2nt 'liked' clubs|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: X or X bty E?|pg||
nt|ritong: justin might axe|pg||
nt|kareno: Those high cards can present a problem for east.|pg||
nt|3for3:  then he should be doubling|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: 2NT was showing a maximum 1NT|pg||
nt|ritong: in order to make them run|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Jonsson may think that EW have a game in M|pg||
nt|3for3:  If 2@S was just a size ask...|pg||
mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: then S 4@C and X again and -1|pg||
pc|dA|nt|3for3:  excellent lead|pg||
nt|skaftij:  OTOH, 14-16 often 5M|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: same result as 4@CX-1 i presume|pg||
nt|ritong: the idea is, you do not know for sure what happens in 3NT, so perhaps better plan is to offer a deal" you run and i don t double"|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|hQ|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|s9|pc|d9|nt|ritong: now, if 3NT doubled stays, so be it|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|ritong: he has material|pg||
nt|kareno: The high cards are marked and north will be very happy when clubs break|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: only -1 now|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: thrown in|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|s3|pc|c5|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: better E claim down 1|pg||
nt|kareno: Not the king???|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: he discarded @CK|pg||
nt|skaftij:  NZ and Sweden tied for 8th place now|pg||
mc|8|nt|jaapfr vg: vincentttt|pg||
pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3SJT9HQDK2CJ876432,S7432HT642D9875C9,SAQHAJ873DT43CKT5,SK865HK95DAQJ6CAQ|sv|b|nt|brolucius: Yes, good defence.  did not want to be caught giving a ruff-and-discard on the second round of spades|pg||
nt|athene: after 1@S - 1NT, how many clubs?|pg||
nt|athene: i bet he bids just two|pg||
nt|famus: in 6 i think he might well lead a @S|pg||
nt|psyck:  since 4@c often has other meanings, many would open 5@c here|pg||
mb|1N|an|14-16|nt|rhelle:  2@c = 11-15, 6+@c|pg||
mb|d!|an|15+ hcp|nt|athene: NS do play 1@S - 2@D as hears|pg||
nt|rensph:  other table reached 3N and made it, so 7 imps to South Africa|pg||
nt|hlortz: that will beat it --i think|pg||
nt|oosmanb: not stopping under 4@S now I think|pg||
nt|jfeld:  important to discuss your follow ups after your side makes a penalty double of 1NT|pg||
nt|jfeld:  a simple agreement is that if the opponents run, the first double is takeout and subsequent doubles are penalty|pg||
nt|eggy:  Einarsson (holding my average rubber bridge hand) no doubt hoping that East doesn't get carried away with a good hand|pg||
nt|jfeld:  and that you are in a force through 2@D or 2@H|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Sweden vs. New Zeeland has played 8 boards so far|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: they have 45 minutes left to play the last 8 boards|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Einarsson here, hoping to escape|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: it is Wooldridge thinking here|pg||
mb|3C|nt|boedhy:  south will bid 3nt|pg||
nt|rhelle:  2@d = relay|pg||
nt|athene: hearts|pg||
nt|kareno: Two - no need to preempt with a solid opening bid.|pg||
nt|gracelin: China has another chance here, 6S is cold|pg||
nt|fluffy: not your everyday vulnerable preempt|pg||
nt|fluffy: 6@s is far from cold requiers a good guess i ntrumps or in the minors|pg||
nt|gracelin: in Italy they say Vulnerability is for children and Bocchi is no children.|pg||
nt|fluffy: normally you should gues trumps, but you are not entry rich to dummy|pg||
nt|psyck:  they did have 4@c available after all|pg||
nt|psyck:  cc says " Wide ranging preempt"|pg||
nt|psyck:  I would expect W to pass|pg||
nt|psyck:  with @s's & @d's breaking, 4@s could make here|pg||
nt|roswolf: looks far too easy to predict 4@S|pg||
nt|ady: this looks a part score hand|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: no offense meant sorry SHI|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: but they won't use the bid with this hand|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  W bids 4@d before n can.|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 3 1's to Aus with a flat inbetween each|pg||
nt|ady: e/w   have around 9 tricks in clubs|pg||
nt|famus: probly xfer to NT|pg||
nt|ady: 3NT looks like the stopping place for e/w|pg||
nt|ady: 11 tricks  unless A@D les against spades|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  2NT = balanced|pg||
nt|kit: This is as flat a 4@H hand as you will find, it sppears.|pg||
nt|hlortz: and denies 4@S since o neg dbl perhaps|pg||
nt|eggy:  North will think there is a source of tricks now|pg||
nt|eggy:  or not!|pg||
mb|d|an|take out|nt|idc: I once made a weak jump on 7 to AK in diamonds, quite proud of it until my '@h'Q turned out to be a missorted diamond|pg||
nt|idc: a weak jump on AKQxxxxx was consider over-sound by my peers|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  q10xxx in the midnight swiss...|pg||
nt|hlortz: /no/|pg||
mb|p|nt|fluffy: aat least with the club opening he will guess clubs|pg||
nt|pelu: Shi didnt dare to cue 4@d|pg||
nt|gracelin: guess Lian will move on|pg||
nt|pelu: but Lian still looking for slam|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: he had taken a bid but took it back|pg||
nt|idc: and 'weak-jump' became my nickname for a while (till I did something even worse)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 6@d = 500|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: this doesnt look right|pg||
nt|ady: cant get there now|pg||
nt|ady: may make 3@D |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: W better bid @d|pg||
mb|3H|nt|rhelle:  (no singleton or void)|pg||
nt|jfeld:  so Einarsson chose his "best" suit|pg||
nt|jfeld:  this could work out quite poorly|pg||
nt|eggy:  It could indeed|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: this is not for people with weak hearts |pg||
mb|p|nt|rensph:  6@S makes on the rather fortunate heart position here, but they'll likely end up in 4@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  2227 balanced tehese days :)|pg||
nt|athene: wow, only 2@H|pg||
nt|athene: i would want to bid a few more than that after partner doubles clubs for takeout|pg||
nt|idc: That's a good auction|pg||
nt|idc: Particularly by North, appreciating power of his shape after partner's negative dbl|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Now what?  6 of a major looks likely  on the bidding (if not the hands).|pg||
nt|ady: south will have to find 3 discards on the clubs|pg||
nt|ady: best to take the 1st heart   but a difficult play|pg||
nt|famus: can see only 8 tricks|pg||
nt|kit: oh my -- big chance for USA1 here|pg||
nt|kit: The North hand sure doesn't look like notrump to me.|pg||
nt|ritong: passing 3NT is a surprise, yes|pg||
nt|eggy:  Hurd knows spades are better|pg||
nt|eggy:  so takes the money (he hopes)|pg||
nt|jfeld:  right|pg||
mb|4C|nt|fabsayc: this should be down, even down two is possible|pg||
nt|kit: however, important for Martel not to squander 10 of hearts at trick 1!|pg||
nt|psyck:  gr8 guess by Joel, I have to admid i would not have found the 5@c bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: missed a pass Karen|pg||
nt|kit: and ace asks for count or unblock I believe.  |pg||
nt|lechcold: muszê siê oddaliæ, i chyba dobrze bo moje kibicowanie szczêcia naszym nie przynosi...do zobaczenia jutro|pg||
nt|ady: and still 11|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  well maybe south should go for 3nt then ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  sort of wrongsided it now|pg||
nt|boedhy:  could it be slam looking form south...|pg||
nt|kareno: I also play that double as takeout.  And they have a light opening style with the forcing club system.|pg||
nt|rensph:  wouldn't want to get anywhere near 6@S usually|pg||
nt|fabsayc: best now is spade shift|pg||
nt|kit: he got it right!|pg||
nt|pelu: 2@C - 2@D - 2@H lloks like invit with 5-4 in major|pg||
nt|fabsayc: chasing the vulnerable game that does not exist|pg||
nt|roswolf: 2 MAJOR ACES TO LOSE -NEXT|pg||
nt|ady: 1NT opening with a singleton a bit more fashionable these days   I prefer not|pg||
nt|jfeld:  the only problem with passing is partner might be there to the rescue...|pg||
nt|jfeld:  but obviously that is unexpected|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: W laughs when he saw the table|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and so did Hurd and Wooldridge|pg||
pc|s3|nt|santyclz: USA 1 took a big lead when China went down in 4@S rather than the 3nt on bd 25.|pg||
nt|brolucius: You remember the deal where Levin upgraded a 17-count to 18, reaching 3NT opposite 7? China played that deal in 4@S, on a 5-3 fit and went one down. So, Kit's advice on the deal, ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: that West should not seek a 5-3 spade fit proved to be good advice.|pg||
nt|gracelin: if they are there, I am quite sure Shi will take 12 tricks.  He is the best player in the team and reach semi final in BB in 2009.|pg||
nt|idc: Stansby's dbl started as minimum but I guess even his hand feels a little improved on auction|pg||
nt|idc: the 6@d bid should warn declarer of bad breaks ahead|pg||
nt|idc: I admit I might be tempted to do less as South - perhaps dbl is a little pesimistic but a forcing pass of 6@d maybe best|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: how to play now? not over yet|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  now is there some way to endplay w with the @h loser and force a @s lead?  I don't see one,  but that doesn't mean one doesn't exist.|pg||
nt|idc: Oh, I suspect this won't make - need a 12th trick from another @d ruff or a spade|pg||
nt|idc: and this attack on dummy's trumps probably too hard to handle|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Martel reading a book|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: "Starbound " that is|pg||
nt|roswolf: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm for running scores in all matches. Select Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup or d'Orsi Senior Bowl|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 3@C+1 likely|pg||
nt|eggy:  Not sure once you have decided to bid 3C that you should then bid again|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|fluffy: if declarer missguesses trumps he will need to find @dQ|pg||
nt|fluffy: or squeeze south in the reds|pg||
nt|gracelin: not a difficult task|pg||
nt|pelu: 5@S = 2Aces + @SQ - Lian exp @sAKQ :)|pg||
nt|gracelin: he even has time to establish a long Heart|pg||
nt|famus: natural for him to play !j--but if he opts to play a small @s--the play ends at trick 2|pg||
nt|famus: @sj|pg||
nt|daman:  here is the vugraph schedule so you can plan your days and weeks      http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
nt|pelu: he know that N is short in @S, so he could play @S6|pg||
nt|famus: that wud end the thrill!!:)|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer has so many entry to dummy, so I thk to take CA and play small spade to finesse S10 is the right play|pg||
nt|fluffy: Imaine for example playing a low spade and south ducking @sK9xx he might lock you in dummy with a heart and you have no way back to hand except destoying you chances of stablishing ...|pg||
nt|fluffy: @cQ|pg||
nt|pelu: this will be the 3. slam-swing in the match - the first 2 gave China 25 IMP and prob 12 more here|pg||
nt|gracelin: China should be proud of themself in outbidding the Italians in 3 slams in one set.  If Shi makes this.|pg||
nt|kit: Stansby will probably shift to club, although anything but king of hearts works fine now.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: It is in fact Peter|pg||
nt|pelu: many play 1x - 1y - 1NT now 2@D = GF, 2!x realy to 2@d and direct major weak|pg||
nt|roswolf: if it is now working!!|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: good safe 3@C|pg||
nt|ady: on hand 25 China mad 2@CX for a +180  and 13 imps to China|pg||
nt|ady: not sure how west found this fit   couold not east have been 5-3-3-2|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: interesting bidding and wp by SHI b25|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: sorry b26|pg||
pc|sK|nt|pelu: but one of the slam only maded on a defensiv error|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: yes sorry:)|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: this time he finds the 5 card major|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|athene: various ways to come to nine tricks here|pg||
nt|athene: take a ruffing finesse in spades is one|pg||
nt|ritong: despite the superfavorable @s layout|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Board 11, China played at 6@S making 7 and lost 11 imps.|pg||
pc|dA|nt|boedhy:  offcourse it was 50% but south has a very strong hand imo|pg||
nt|gracelin: Shi must be thinking harder than we do except he is not looking at all 4 hands.  I am sure the line he chooses is the best one.|pg||
nt|daman:  here is the page for the result fromthe 3 events     http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|famus: so the Chinese wud b the first to put a dent in this Italian Juggernaut--They've rolled over evry other opponent mercilessly, and i dare say artfully till now|pg||
pc|d2|nt|kamyk: jak nie idzie, to nie idzie - nawet tu stracimy impa|pg||
pc|d9|nt|hlortz: yes with both k and j diamonds with south i dont see how to make it|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|rensph:  pointed out to me that it's not 12 tricks if E leads a club through, so S would have to play the hand in order to succeed. :)|pg||
nt|idc: I still admire the auction (by both sides) up till 6@d, then perhaps South did a little too much|pg||
nt|twcho: declarer will go up with the ace|pg||
nt|twcho: but he has to choose from finessing in @c or establishing the 4th @H|pg||
nt|fabsayc: should make if he does not touch trumps early|pg||
nt|xenya: even with @H 5-0 it's an easy make|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: another room and another SHI|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|kit: down 3, and 14 badly needed IMPs for USA1|pg||
nt|ady: apparantly 2NT was alerted as showing 4 plus clubs  so there must be another way of inviting game with 5 spades and not 4 clubs|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: maybe 1NT 2@c // 2@d 2@s shows 5@s inv|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: mb even 3@S|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|nt|kareno: And all he needs are eight :)|pg||
nt|ady: now down 1|pg||
nt|xenya: declarer losing a trump and 2 aces|pg||
nt|eggy:  East has a plan ! :)|pg||
nt|jfeld:  down 1 and a push|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|idc: but perhaps we should put it down to good E-W sac causing tough problem|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  As was suspected, Brasil got to 6@h on  board 10.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: South found out 3@C is making|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and that 4@s is not making|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: East is to the bathroom|pg||
nt|ady: south cannot afford to discard a spade as 5 clubs and a sspade can be cashed  and south then end played with a heart|pg||
nt|roswolf: it isnt i am told!!:(|pg||
pc|s9|nt|athene: now overruff, diamond shift kills the dummy entry|pg||
nt|gracelin: now he need to guess DQ for his slam.  Declarer may try Heart 3-3 first,|pg||
nt|pelu: did he realy need to play @SJ?|pg||
nt|famus: so he has to play on the red suit squeeze but i think must surrender a @S NOW|pg||
nt|gracelin: I say no, since he as so many reentries to dummy|pg||
nt|twcho: :(|pg||
nt|xenya: 3N was a good alternative of course|pg||
nt|rnmalik: timely K @D. S needs to ruff a @D on table for the 10th trick.|pg||
nt|ady: China in a great position to challenge for a qualifying spot  if they keep their lead in this match|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: sure|pg||
nt|resurectin:  Still here, yes i believe 2nt is invitational with clubs|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: china now ahead 0.5 VP over Australia|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: were 10th and australia 8th and first 8 do qualify for QF after round 21|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: but Japan and Sweden also only 2.5 and 3.5 VP away|pg||
pc|s2|nt|athene: so only 8|pg||
nt|ritong: hi ck hi all|pg||
pc|sA|nt|twcho: nice smooth duck by south in the 1st trick|pg||
nt|twcho: now the contract is doomed|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: Nigel is a classy young player with a great future'|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|psyck:  Salut Henri|pg||
pc|hA|nt|famus: to keep trump control and check out @hs|pg||
nt|pelu: take @S10 and play @DJ - he has a ruffing finess later in @c|pg||
nt|gracelin: he is to eatablish his club trick first|pg||
nt|pelu: my bet: he will make :)|pg||
nt|ritong: 5@c was indeed a fine anticipation|pg||
nt|ritong: and the best way to push opps to guessing|pg||
nt|ritong: other choices, like 4@h hoping to play there or pass, hoping that lho will make an error are way less clever, imho|pg||
pc|h5|nt|brolucius: The bidding is not as we see it, obviously. Our VG operator is valiantly trying to recover from the crash (which is not fault of his). |pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
nt|gracelin: H to dummy, run CQ, covered, ruff|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: without playing next card south claimes...|pg||
pc|h3|nt|antoniz: przeciwko dru¿ynie z Izraela nie idzie od wielu lat|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: very very close|pg||
pc|h9|pc|c2|pc|h4|pg||
nt|gracelin: if south overruff and play Heart, dummy wns, cash CJ, and ruff Heart back, the last trump will double squeeze NS|pg||
nt|fokal: true|pg||
nt|gracelin: and south cannot discard H here.  Best for im is to discard a D.|pg||
nt|gracelin: hm|pg||
nt|idc: I would ignore the 11 IMPs credited to Brasil on Bd 11|pg||
nt|twcho: Looking at his age, a mere 19 years old teenager, amazing|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|gracelin: Madala did just that.|pg||
nt|fokal: E can't afford to play a trump now|pg||
nt|pelu: kibs offered my free cofeee if making - I look forward - he will make!|pg||
nt|fokal: since he doesn't know what to discard from dummy|pg||
pc|s4|pc|dT|nt|kiwibridge: sorry Nabil I meant|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|fokal: double squeeze still working if s ruff|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: preparing diamond 2|pg||
nt|gracelin: now if south overruff the same double squeeze works.  |pg||
nt|fokal: if S discard a @d : @h ruff, @d to the K @h ruff|pg||
nt|fokal: 12 tricks|pg||
nt|gracelin: yes.  Great hand|pg||
nt|fokal: indeed|pg||
nt|pelu: if S discard @d2 - then decl can take !KL ruff a @H and lst trick to @s9|pg||
nt|pelu: @dK|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|mc|9|nt|famus: By now SHI like any world class declarer knows the hand|pg||
nt|fluffy: tries to break the squeeze|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: @D8|pg||
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qx|o14|st||md|4SJT94H872D975C876,SK75HKJ6DJT8CAT32,SQ632HAQ53DK2CJ94,SA8HT94DAQ643CKQ5|sv|o|nt|jaapfr vg: ok he did|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: im sorry he did yes|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: np|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: All that matters is the standings after board 16 :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 3nt+2 next claim vincent lol|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|3for3:  In 2009, the WBF program accurately reflected the tiebreakers on the scoreboard; from that I infer NZ wins the tiebreaker versus Sweden, as things stand right now|pg||
nt|kareno: Yes, a small break for the commentators|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: @HT|pg||
nt|3for3:  nz just dropped 2 VPs|pg||
nt|3for3:  Out of the top 8|pg||
nt|3for3:  iceland still 3.5 ahead of 9th|pg||
mc|11|nt|jaapfr vg: lovely claim:)|pg||
nt|skaftij:   Ice 333.5 China 331.5 Swe 331 NZ 329 |pg||
nt|skaftij:  plc 6-9|pg||
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qx|c14|st||md|4SJT94H872D975C876,SK75HKJ6DJT8CAT32,SQ632HAQ53DK2CJ94,SA8HT94DAQ643CKQ5|sv|o|nt|boedhy:  I meant North |pg||
nt|famus: wd China|pg||
nt|pelu: so S has to discard a @h, but then again @D to K, @H-ruff and S can be endplayed on @s9|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hey my half hearted prediction came true|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: actually this was the bidding :)|pg||
nt|idc: Auction entered is 4 passes and I doubt that really happened, just a typing glitch i expect|pg||
nt|jaapfr: re los kabeltje:)|pg||
nt|famus: had he taken the first @H --had a possibilty in !endplaying S|pg||
nt|ady: was a difficult hand to make  |pg||
nt|fabsayc: he would have done better to lead low spade on third round|pg||
nt|ady: but survived|pg||
mb|1N|nt|athene: south doubles 1@S and then north bids 1nt, i suppose|pg||
nt|gracelin: I have predicted Shi will make this slam.  Glad he didn't let me down.|pg||
nt|famus: shud read him for 7@hs with that Vul|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: result|pg||
mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: back to the double figure swings|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: a z kim nam tu sz³o?|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: but @CQ mb was better|pg||
mb|3N|nt|rhelle:  so far NS have 12 plus scores - they will be happy|pg||
nt|gracelin: at this Vul. 2D shows 4S and 5+ minor with 5-11 pts|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2c was 18-19 , madala passed|pg||
nt|brolucius: Oh, 2@C shows 18-19 balanced for them. The other Italian pairs use 2@D for that.|pg||
nt|pelu: me me thats absolut minimum for a Michaels 2@c -|pg||
nt|hlortz: true. it was a difficult hand to play. i expected trump leads w/qj09|pg||
nt|ritong: here lall/grue had a shooting auction, "helped" by a 2@h opening in east|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: Sementa losts of clubs and spades again|pg||
nt|hedyg:  1@c= 2+|pg||
nt|pelu: but @H 10 9 make the hand better|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: safer|pg||
mb|p|nt|idc: Yes, Bd 11 still being played in other room, in 3NT by East (USA)|pg||
nt|jaapfr: that was 4117 almost same|pg||
nt|hedyg:  Raptor is only played in direct seat|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: East is unbalanced now he dbled|pg||
nt|ady: this time they do have a spade fit   but still might play more safely in clubs|pg||
nt|ritong: let s see what happens with a quieter start|pg||
nt|psyck:  3@h fit jump|pg||
nt|ritong: hurd certainly would prefer chunkier suits|pg||
nt|ritong: but..|pg||
nt|ady: 6@H on heart queen being right|pg||
nt|ady: hand 27   China in 5@C X   need to play carefully to down 2   -300|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: quel systeme !|pg||
nt|ritong: his action has the merit to place his hand immediately|pg||
nt|psyck:  yes, should be better @h suit normally...|pg||
nt|ritong: he will not participate further if unsollicited|pg||
nt|ady: likely to play in game|pg||
nt|oosmanb: right|pg||
pc|sT|nt|fabsayc: this upgrade may get them to the good slam, 2@S followed by 4@C splinter|pg||
nt|twcho: I still can't understand why declarer take the trump finesse|pg||
nt|xenya: Meanwhile: New Zealand doing well against USA1 (23-7VP), Sweden-USA2 almost even, Singapore vs Australia -- same  |pg||
nt|rnmalik: 4@S a playable level.|pg||
nt|ady: hand 27 looks around 5 imps to Australia|pg||
pc|sK|nt|athene: some might be tempted to double this with north but he does not have that great a hand|pg||
nt|athene: you either need a shortage so you can get some ruffs|pg||
nt|pelu: just a X to help opponents :) - he has shown @h+@s why D - extra values?? NO|pg||
pc|s2|nt|boedhy:  yes they will be pretty confident about there list|pg||
nt|boedhy:  only board 9 is tricky|pg||
nt|boedhy:  It was bid and made at most tables|pg||
nt|athene: or you need such good trumps you just make them by force|pg||
nt|kareno: Nanev very close to a second double.  |pg||
nt|brolucius: I didn't know you were bi-lingual.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Because he was tricked by a 19 year old?|pg||
nt|hedyg:  after the accident on board 4 he is hesitant to bid 2@s|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 5@C no chance|pg||
nt|ady: now Sementa has said it all|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Thundering here, South; I made a wrong bid|pg||
nt|gulyas: :)|pg||
nt|lechcold: ciê¿ki rebid z rêk¹ E...|pg||
nt|antoniz: ³adna odzywka Piotra|pg||
nt|ritong: so we land in the 8 cards fit, relatively low level |pg||
nt|rnmalik: sorry, 4@C|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: chances for -3 there in 5@C?|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|boedhy:  solid 3nt again|pg||
nt|brolucius: The convention that 2@C on a passed hand should show a sound raise in partner's major was banned for years by the English Bridge Union.  They thought it allowed players to psyche ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: in 3rd seat....|pg||
nt|kit: some might open the West hand 1NT and get to 3NT.  But they then might get a spade lead!|pg||
nt|athene: he really has not got that much defence|pg||
nt|kareno: In that case, north might sit.|pg||
nt|andyv:  for those who want to see the open room on livestream: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|ritong: looks healthy|pg||
nt|psyck:  this should also go down for a more or less push board|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|kit: This lead will not test declarer.  A heart lead might have.|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@C is known as the Drury convention.|pg||
nt|santyclz: And when 2@C shows 3 card support and 2@d is used for 4 card support it's 2-way Drury.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer has the chance to ditch a diamond on the 4th club, so long as the defenders do not set up a diamond early.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Taking a trump finesse might allow a damaging diamond switch.|pg||
nt|brolucius: That is no doubt what he is thinking about.|pg||
nt|idc: The 3@d showed 18-19 balanced & heart suport|pg||
nt|ady: looks like 9 tricks either spades or clubs|pg||
nt|hedyg:  in 4@s you would have to ruff high and play the J@S to create an entry to dummy with the 10@s|pg||
nt|jaapfr: y|pg||
nt|ady: this looks tough to make|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, they did well to stop there|pg||
pc|dK|nt|rensph:  only worry of declarer here is to avoid losing 2 spades|pg||
nt|gracelin: with the knowledge of south's 4-cad spade, declarer can take deep finesse there to get 4S, 1H, 2C and 2D.|pg||
nt|ady: Duboin in with his jack   but partner had shown a good hand|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i am afraid that even is not enough hedy|pg||
nt|roswolf: my link does work if you get NO SEVICE press F5 on your computer:)|pg||
pc|dA|nt|lechcold: na drugim stole pad³o 2@H i jest grane|pg||
nt|ritong: yes trumps are cruel|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: awful board to defend this 1@S|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 5@h= 2 aces no @sQ|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i see it is 14-16, so not an upgrade, and to me worth 4@D over 4@C since diamonds good for many discards|pg||
nt|hedyg:  extremely disciplined pass|pg||
nt|jaapfr: sure|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: instead of dbl direct 2@S is 6-4/5 less strong|pg||
nt|xenya: not an easy hand|pg||
pc|d3|nt|kit: Weinstein worried about a club ruff, so may play two top spades|pg||
nt|pelu: 37 IMP for China on 3 slams !|pg||
nt|gracelin: as there are only 2 entries to dummy, he could cash SA first to see what's north singleton, when the S7 shown, he know to double hook S10 and SQ|pg||
nt|fokal: he can evan afford to cash the @s As|pg||
nt|famus: this shud b a swing back to Italy if @s dont go to deep fin|pg||
nt|fokal: *even|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  E-w appear to have 4 losers and stopped just in time.|pg||
nt|hedyg:  on the other hand he also knows that with double fit Duboin is big enough to bid 4@s if it is there|pg||
nt|fabsayc: claim|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: i think he will just claim|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: a bit late with time|pg||
nt|oosmanb: yes keep refreshing the website, it'll work |pg||
pc|d7|nt|fluffy: in 4@s, 4 players made, 10 players went down|pg||
nt|fluffy: making 3NT is for sure a supperb score|pg||
nt|gracelin: the Italian declarer must be among the 4 that make|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer lacks the entries for finesse south for Q107x, so he must hope north hold one of the Q, 10, or 7.  So cas SA and take the double hook|pg||
nt|fluffy: declarer can fleely cash @sA now right?|pg||
nt|famus: has to beware of entries to play @s twice- but also needs to check the hand---Declarer has his work cut out for him|pg||
nt|lechcold: po kierowym ataku konieczny by³by impas i damy i ósemki pik|pg||
nt|lechcold: dziewi¹tki:)|pg||
nt|kamyk: brak dojæ na takie manewry - trzeba by zmarnowaæ lewê treflow¹|pg||
nt|lechcold: tak|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: alternatively, try http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|bobh1: does E know that all these @S cue-bids were "bluhmers"?|pg||
pc|dT|nt|ady: looks 1 down|pg||
nt|ady: clubs being 4-1|pg||
nt|xenya: but now EW can score a @D ruff|pg||
nt|ady: ruffed with long trumps|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: we had trump AKQJ and 22 hcp and could not beat 1@S:)|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|brolucius: If he plays trumps from the top and they break 3-2, he can set up the clubs, leeaving the master @SQ out. |pg||
nt|andyv:  and for current standings: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|idc: Fortunately for Brasil, @dK offside otherwise 4@h makeable|pg||
nt|hlortz: looks like 11|pg||
pc|d8|nt|ady: 2 imps to Italy|pg||
nt|bobh1: otherwise he might fear duplication|pg||
nt|ady: hand 27 was down 2 in 5@C X  5 back to Australia|pg||
pc|h3|nt|brolucius: You can see how hopeless it would have been for North to 'cover an honour with an honour'. |pg||
nt|santyclz: The bad news is the trump break.  The good news is that s didn't request a @d through.|pg||
nt|kamyk: pechowe rozdanie - N mia³ prawo liczyc na dubla karo u partnera|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: this might be a fast board|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|bobh1: i guess he knew|pg||
nt|xenya: so declarer would have done better to play trumps at once|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|kareno: Diamond needed|pg||
nt|ady: fortunate sing. club is the 10|pg||
nt|bobh1: both slams depend on the @H Q and 32 @Hs|pg||
nt|ady: this could be a swing for Poland|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: i even do not see DD how to beat 1@S|pg||
pc|hT|nt|bobh1: perhaps they were influenced by the need to do something|pg||
pc|h8|nt|gracelin: yes, nicely done, now two entries to dummy for the double finesse.|pg||
pc|h6|nt|xenya: was not clear though|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: it was australia playing the 5@c, so 5 imps to china|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|kit: Now diamond shift and he is down.|pg||
nt|kit: Problem was he couldn't go up ace of hearts due to no entry to the club.|pg||
nt|brolucius: South may hope that North started with @CKQJ.|pg||
nt|bobh1: to get back in the match|pg||
nt|ady: well 13 imps wasted|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes bidding 6@C didnt seem to be in the picture for a long time during the auction|pg||
pc|s3|nt|kit: If North had that in clubs, North would have cashed another club at least|pg||
nt|antoniz: dlatego wist karo jest niedobry,moim zdaniem|pg||
pc|sA|nt|brolucius: Yes, that's a good inference - one that South has missed.|pg||
nt|kit: But South failed to work it out, and a lost opportunity goes by|pg||
nt|lechcold: w kolor partnera na NT powinno siê chyba naturalnie wistowaæ, nie s¹dzicie?|pg||
nt|antoniz: tak wistyjemy |pg||
nt|kamyk: w niepoparty - oczywicie, to ju¿ chyba standard|pg||
nt|lechcold: i to nie dlatego, ¿e singiel by³ akurat dwójk¹:)|pg||
nt|famus: everything stacked against the declarer--|pg||
nt|ady: now 1 down|pg||
pc|s4|nt|kareno: They are picking declarer clean.|pg||
nt|famus: this was a wrong move by Madala--now dec home|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|pelu: when a pair are looking for 3Nt a D often just help them - some players even have an agreament: D = dont lead my suit|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: asks for double squeeze or something|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: nothing|pg||
nt|ady: duck the first heart may set a problem?|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes it would david|pg||
pc|d6|nt|barnets: this will be a confidence building result for the young USA team- who have played well|pg||
pc|h2|nt|rensph:  11 tricks now, as at the other table|pg||
pc|s7|pc|h5|pg||
nt|jaapfr: @H lead defeats 4@S even DD|pg||
pc|d4|nt|vugraphznt: NS agree you make 4@S when you are in it|pg||
pc|h7|nt|brolucius: Holding mighty Italy to 9 IMPs is quite a feat.|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|xenya: still some work to do -- i mean the @D suit|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|lechcold: gdyby to by³ standard, to Grzegorz by wiedzia³ ¿e wist poszed³ z singla|pg||
nt|roswolf: must fet the gearts right now|pg||
nt|roswolf: the duck by south is testing|pg||
nt|ady: should get this right as cannont make with hearts 3 in south hand|pg||
nt|oosmanb: fantastic duck|pg||
nt|ady: but under pressure may go wrong|pg||
nt|rnmalik: may be because of the preempt was placing @CK with W.|pg||
nt|xenya: that's right|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|nt|kamyk: o kurcze, faktycznie, wist jednoznacznie w singla|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|nt|kareno: Upside down carding by n/s.  Note the small diamond on the ace, encouraging, and now the high heart, discouraging in that suit.|pg||
pc|c3|nt|lechcold: ;0|pg||
nt|lechcold: :)|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and only board 1 is lucky the rest is won with good solid bridge|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Kalita usually very calm under pressure|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes very fine player|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|kareno: A quiet two down, no disgrace.|pg||
nt|kareno: But had Nanev doubled again it would have been 300, a useful penalty.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: toilet break|pg||
pc|cT|mc|11|nt|boedhy:  so throw in|pg||
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qx|o15|st||md|1SAQ6HJ9542DQT32C3,SKJ543HAQ7D87CJ82,S8HK86DJ965CAKT75,ST972HT3DAK4CQ964|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|3for3:  roland, i think they changed so all 3 series play 128|pg||
nt|skaftij:  how does the imp carryover work? how many imps are transferred?|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: after b14 (also very fast) Holland=USA1 37-17 (20-10)|pg||
nt|3for3:  if you look at the schedule, on 'results' page...it shows everyone playing next sat|pg||
mb|p|pc|cA|nt|skaftij:  Forgot Japan |pg||
nt|skaftij:  Ice 333.5 China 331.5 Swe 331 Japan 330 NZ 329|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c3|nt|ritong: baldursson really wants to avoid blood|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ritong: he s trusting his intuition that everything is ok for now|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
nt|skaftij:  agree|pg||
nt|3for3:  and the scoreboard agrees.  losing 6 ok, losing double digits could be catstrophe|pg||
nt|skaftij:  His intuition and table feeling is renowned|pg||
nt|3for3:  of course...that could change|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: if you see the scores I can imagine NS do think scoring very close fist 14 boards|pg||
pc|d5|mc|9|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1SAQ6HJ9542DQT32C3,SKJ543HAQ7D87CJ82,S8HK86DJ965CAKT75,ST972HT3DAK4CQ964|sv|n|nt|vugraphznt: north got angry|pg||
nt|fabsayc: time limit is 2 hours and 15 minutes?|pg||
nt|idc: 4@h needs a little luck in cross-ruffing mind you, so npot just on @d finesse|pg||
nt|jaapfr: LOL|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Sementa didnt bid 4@S because non vuln and afraid of dbl when it's wrong|pg||
nt|ady: fastest session I have ever experienced    16 hands in about 1 hour|pg||
nt|famus: 4@s here|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: they are saying it were a squeeze|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: so probably 12 tricks|pg||
nt|ady: acou be a pick u[|pg||
nt|ady: up|pg||
nt|jfeld:  And China has come back vs. South Africa and is back to qualifying position for now|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2 boards left of the Round Robin|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: North was right to blame his partner, wrong to get angry...|pg||
nt|famus: yes but had already showed his 4@s:)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: jestemy na 13 miejscu..na szczêcie z Japoni¹...mo¿e pech siê choæ podzieli na po³owê...|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Yes could be a pickup|pg||
mb|1S|nt|boedhy:  this hurts...|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2hours 20 minutes|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: have to be finished in 12 minutes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: finished or started?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: finished|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  No problem with @hs 2-2.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: wyniki: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|pelu: so far a lot of small swings for Sweden - better bidding in partscores = 22 IMP and 2 big swing 17 + 13 for USA|pg||
mb|p|nt|rensph:  EW likely to end up in 4@S here|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 2@c = @d-fit and 7+hcp|pg||
nt|jkotor: mam tylko nadziejê i probê do naszych Gwiazd na miejscu: nie róbcie analizy tego dnia...|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: is this right?|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 2@H fighting with 3@D here|pg||
mb|3C!|an|7-10hcp 4!s|nt|vugraphznt: 2nt=4+@ss invitational+|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: jutro na BBO 10:30 Venice Cup Polska-Indonezja|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 13.45 Bermuda Bowl Polska-USA1 i Senior Bowl Polska-Austalia|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 16.45 Bemuda Bowl Polska-Wlochy ponownie z przekazem video i Senior Bowl Polska-USA1|pg||
nt|eggy:  Iceland are 4.5 clear of New Zealand and 5.5 clear of China, so should be Ok unless there is something v dramatic|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: Is he online?  I'll email him perhaps.|pg||
nt|jkotor: bo jeszcze jeden taki dzieñ i pozamiatane|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Lauria bidding on over 3NT from west though|pg||
nt|bobh1: another marginal slam that makes|pg||
mb|3S|an|to play|nt|lechcold: nisko skoczy³...4@Dx mog³oby zakoñczyæ licytacjê...i le siê skoñczyæ dla naszych|pg||
nt|twcho: north is given another chance now|pg||
nt|twcho: can NS bid to the making 4@h?|pg||
nt|antoniz: nie kopie sie le¿¹cego|pg||
nt|lechcold: by³o sporo s³abej gry, ale szczêcie nie sta³o po naszej stronie..|pg||
nt|jkotor: tiaa, ale jeli dojd¹ do tego negatywne emocje to ju¿ mo¿e nie byæ dobrej gry dalej|pg||
nt|lechcold: (nie rozpowszechniaæ tego pogl¹du o szczêciu, bo minister Kapica czyha)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: Antoni - ty zawsze by³e starowiecki...kompletnie nie rozumiesz ducha wspó³czesnej walki...|pg||
nt|ady: 4@S a make for n/s|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: ojojoj|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2nt is no doubt a 4 card spade raise, alternative was some flower bid in hearts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no squeeze|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: should i tell the players?|pg||
nt|pelu: @s @H squeeze against S|pg||
nt|ady: 12 tricks available here for e/w   can they do it again|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Ill back them, moneys on slam|pg||
nt|ady: maybe 6@H    as can ruff out spade suit when 4-2|pg||
nt|oosmanb: haha for those watching Open room webcast|pg||
nt|roswolf: this slam is of rolanf proportions!:)|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Versace was toying with his final pass card over 4@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|twcho: redouble is a better bid than a mere 2@h bid in OR|pg||
nt|psyck:  I would have expected a 1N opening by N here|pg||
nt|ritong: holding south hand, you know that this rates to be painful|pg||
nt|ritong: a strong NT, you mean?|pg||
nt|ritong: ow|pg||
nt|ritong: very painful, even|pg||
nt|psyck:  1N=(13)14-16 for them|pg||
nt|ady: part score hand  but easy for n/s to get overboard  after light take-out double by north|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: did not see gosney alert 2@h, but edggton did|pg||
nt|ady: sorry   did not see 1@S opening |pg||
nt|ady: not light double   sorry|pg||
mb|p|nt|twcho: not sure about the meaning of double|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: I could not see explanation, sorry|pg||
nt|ady: 4@H plays well here|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: they corrected to 12 tricks|pg||
nt|ritong: ok back to earth now|pg||
nt|oosmanb: signalling he really doesnt want to pass|pg||
nt|ady: but a slam here may be flat|pg||
nt|oosmanb: but EW in 4@H|pg||
nt|oosmanb: in 30|pg||
pc|cK|nt|kamyk: a zacz¹³em pisaæ, ¿e kolejne p³askie rozdanie:(|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Raising your partner!  Is that legal?|pg||
nt|hlortz: wasted no time getting there lol|pg||
nt|pelu: u cant tell them that!!!|pg||
nt|ritong: phew|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: think SHI passes though|pg||
pc|c4|nt|pelu: @H-lead against 4@S, then @D to K, @S to A @hQ to K and ruff, @CA and @C .. to K @hJ disc @C-loser, and so on = 10 tricks|pg||
nt|jaapfr: heee  24-44 China (lucky or deserved:)?|pg||
nt|gracelin: EW can make 3H, so 2S -1 or -2 is no big deal|pg||
nt|idc: Looking at the E-W heart intermediates on last hand, you might just hope for 2-2 trump split rather than a partial cross-ruff|pg||
nt|famus: he needs to ruff a @D for a push board i think|pg||
nt|ady: absolutely|pg||
nt|xenya: despite the grand slam swing we still have the lowest score as compared to the other matches|pg||
nt|rnmalik: good stop and 8 tricks are, may make 9.|pg||
nt|rnmalik: "there|pg||
pc|c3|nt|ady: 2NT   strong break of transfer|pg||
nt|kit: operator -- this is wrong|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: sorry|pg||
nt|kit: Normal 4@H contract -- should make along crossruff lines, taking at least 6 hearts, 2 spades, 1 diamond, and 1 club.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: i know, kidding|pg||
nt|psyck:  I'm told 15-17 3rd, no mention of it in cc though|pg||
nt|ritong: i do not think stefanov would miss an occasion to open 1NT if system allows it|pg||
nt|ritong: anyways, same contract same lead|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: unexpected lead|pg||
nt|ady: good spot for n/s|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|twcho: sure, not your fault. :)|pg||
nt|eggy:  Also as NZ are playing Sweden (1.5 behind) there shouldn't be a problem|pg||
pc|d6|nt|fluffy: the lead guesses diamonds for declarer, and now defeating 2@s will require a diamond ruff|pg||
nt|twcho: wow, they bid it|pg||
nt|kit: Most natural play is to lead diamond to king at trick 2, and another diamond.|pg||
pc|dA|nt|boedhy:  well stopped|pg||
nt|kareno: Clubs behave but not much else.  Good lead - actually Bridge World has an article this month about the benefits of major suit leads against notrumps - and their general success.|pg||
nt|athene: versace wondering whether to start clubs with small towards the ten i suppose|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: great|pg||
nt|twcho: no matter what the double means, it must show some useful value. :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: they will realize after finished|pg||
nt|ritong: a top @s, that is|pg||
nt|bobh1: 6N?|pg||
nt|oosmanb: 6NT|pg||
nt|ady: not straight foward though  if spades 4-2|pg||
nt|ady: even in hearts|pg||
nt|oosmanb: then @C finesse?|pg||
nt|oosmanb: 5@H 3@S 2@C 2@D|pg||
nt|ady: 6NT either on spades 3-3   or club finesse |pg||
pc|dT|nt|brolucius: This is the last board of the session. I would like to thank Dirk, our splendid VG operator. Excellent session and many thanks!|pg||
nt|oosmanb: drive out @D ace before tackling @S |pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|boedhy:  4nt quantitative|pg||
nt|rhelle:  yes, unless you're in 6NT and you get the wrong lead|pg||
nt|rhelle:  could be 12 tricks played from East|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the spectators all know how to make six, declarer does not|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: another down 1 EW joke|pg||
nt|hedyg:  very lucky lie of cards|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Sementa: this the match for 3@H and 3@S|pg||
nt|ady: proble though idf A@D is with south and club comes back   ?|pg||
nt|ady: problem|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: BBO|pg||
nt|jfeld:  That switch won't work out well, as North no longer has an entry to give the ruff|pg||
nt|jfeld:  most likely this will make now|pg||
pc|s2|nt|fabsayc: if he carries on with this line he is going down|pg||
nt|lechcold: http://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/1,114883,10496682,Nielegalny_turniej_pokera_w_restauracji.html... tu widaæ co siê dzieje z tymi, którzy graj¹ w gry uzale¿nione od ...|pg||
nt|lechcold: szczêcia..|pg||
nt|ady: not to much of a problem with trumps 3-2|pg||
nt|ady: after all that   jsut 3NT|pg||
nt|oosmanb: cant East atleast bid 4NT |pg||
pc|s6|nt|twcho: great bid by Edgtton|pg||
nt|kit: this really feels wrong to me.|pg||
nt|psyck:  @sQ from KQ or QJx|pg||
nt|ritong: varying from K to Q according to agreements|pg||
nt|bobh1: i think they may have just given back the slam swing|pg||
nt|rnmalik: can lose also @D switch.|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|rensph:  3@C puppet stayman here, little to the play in 4@S> Declarer will draw trumps and then requires the @HK to be onside|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 1 @C ruff and the 1DA onside|pg||
pc|d7|nt|lechcold: Grzegorz nie powinien tak siê emocjonowaæ swoimi walorami w czerwonych kolorach|pg||
nt|hedyg:  nnow 3@ss and disc @c|pg||
nt|antoniz: je¿eli to co ogl¹dam ma byæ wzorem wspó³czesnej walki....to chcê byæ starowiecki:)|pg||
nt|ady: and clubs splitting|pg||
nt|ady: would have tht so|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Chance was there to make 8 tricks but did not accept.|pg||
pc|d5|nt|rensph:  he might be able to play for a throw-in|pg||
nt|kamyk: w sierpniu 80 Rosiewicz piewa³: "Bulgarija,Bulgarija, u Polijaka awarija"|pg||
nt|brolucius: One down will be fine, against a making 2@H. Madala was unlucky to find only two trumps in the dummy. His bid was fine.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this auction a variation on mexican 2@D, west showed 18-19 balanced|pg||
nt|xenya: of course the legitimate plan was to rely on 3-3 @S -- the line adopted by declarer works if the defence err twice -- not sure how good that is  |pg||
nt|rnmalik: another chance.|pg||
pc|dK|nt|brolucius: Also, many thanks to Kit and Joe, my fellow commentators. We were awarded a fair bunch of boards - neither excellent, nor hopelessly boring - somewhere in between.|pg||
nt|psyck:  Running Scores: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|psyck:  All Results: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|bobh1: what did W show?|pg||
pc|s7|nt|twcho: and good effort by Gosney too|pg||
nt|hlortz: and @c 3-3|pg||
pc|sA|nt|rensph:  should the throw-in fail (If S holds the 3rd spade) he can still finesse the hearts himself|pg||
pc|s5|pc|c7|pg||
nt|kareno: This is a hand I would rather leave to partner to declare always - too many choices.  I agree that a club to the ten is tempting.  The diamonds have opened a path for the defense.|pg||
pc|h5|nt|jaapfr vg: ok 9 tr and last board|pg||
nt|ady: not much scope for Austrialia on hands 29 to 31    so this looks a convincing win for China|pg||
pc|hA|nt|andyv:  yes, someday you will have to tell me about it|pg||
nt|twcho: this will be a serious blow for USA1|pg||
pc|h6|nt|hlortz: oops 32|pg||
nt|psyck:  also available on www.bridgewinners.com a site most bridge players must be familiar with by now|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|sK|mc|9|nt|kit: He will still survive, but it seems so much more natural to set up at least 1 diamond trick first.|pg||
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qx|o16|st||md|2S5HAK852DQ875CT52,S74HQJT43DJTCQJ64,SA862H76DAK9CAK97,SKQJT93H9D6432C83|sv|e|nt|3for3:  is this correct?  nz has only 8 comparisons scored.  |pg||
nt|3for3:  lsat board here|pg||
nt|3for3:  last*|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Sweden vs NZ only finished 8 bds now|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: this is the last board of the Round Robin, thank you all for joining, tomorrow the QF will start at 10;30 local time.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|2S|nt|jaapfr vg: 6@D can be made DD:)|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|jaapfr vg: mb not|pg||
nt|3for3:  only one person in the world can bid 6@D|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|skaftij:  Roland!|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: just above 6,8%|pg||
pc|sK|nt|jaapfr vg: 9 tricks|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: but declarer does mot know tet|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: not know yet|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|c2|pc|s7|nt|ritong: question is: how to optimize chances|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: we could enjoy very fast and good bridge imo tx all and congrat usa 2 (we'll see you in the Final:)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: tx Vincent|pg||
nt|ritong: the first idea which comes to mind is trying to establish @hs avoiding east|pg||
nt|3for3:  not so easy to do...|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|ritong: with that layout, no:)|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
nt|ritong: but he tries|pg||
nt|ritong: a @d back to hand and an other @h|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
nt|ritong: or a @c|pg||
pc|h7|nt|jaapfr vg: better mb to try @D now|pg||
pc|d3|nt|3for3:  this table will remain open, with quarterfinal pairing anounced right here|pg||
nt|ritong: boink|pg||
nt|skaftij:  The quarterfinals will be published at this table|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: he needed @HK for if @D 5-1 (J or T sec)|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ritong: plan B, quickly!|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dA|nt|jaapfr vg: but could combine by playing 1x @DAt|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dQ|nt|3for3:  making as expected|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|ritong: home and dry now|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h3|pc|c7|nt|ritong: plan B worked|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: bye all|pg||
nt|3for3:  3nt with the very long clubs was pushed at -100|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Bye all |pg||
nt|3for3:  it seems likely that Iceland will be playing the main event tomorrow|pg||
nt|skaftij:  That is for sure|pg||
nt|3for3:  they could well end up playing usa1|pg||
nt|3for3:  usa2|pg||
nt|ritong: i would put a dime on that, yes|pg||
nt|skaftij:  because Sweden is playing NZ|pg||
nt|skaftij:  so contenders|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: tx Skafty, Danny, Henri and esp Vincent and kibs|pg||
mc|9|nt|jaapfr vg: bye all cu tomorrow|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Japan is 5.5 VP's away with 3 bds to go|pg||
nt|skaftij:  running scores|pg||
nt|skaftij:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: this room will stay open, but we have to wait till all QF are known|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Tu follow commentators, vVncent and kibs|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Seniors standings|pg||
nt|skaftij:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=883|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Venice Cup (Ladies)|pg||
nt|skaftij:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=882|pg||
nt|jcwla: Wow - Germany seniors gained 9 IMPs on the very last board against Canada to vault over India into 8th, 342-341.|pg||
nt|jcwla: BB standings: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=881 |pg||
nt|jcwla: Senior standings: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=883 |pg||
nt|jcwla: VC standings: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=882 |pg||
nt|ritong: ty jordan|pg||
nt|kareno: Do you know the VP conversion?  What is win by 10?  Canada's last board not in there.|pg||
nt|ritong: we are now waiting for the quarters pairing|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: results of QF picking here?|pg||
nt|ritong: not yet|pg||
nt|famus: yes|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: can anyone give the right endresult of first 8 (no scoring visible now)|pg||
nt|vbman: standings/////////(<_(*& |pg||
nt|andyv:  1     ITALY  4092   NETHERLANDS 3903   USA 2 3724   ISRAEL 355.35   USA 1 340.56   SWEDEN 3357   CHINA 334.58   ICELAND 333.5|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: ty all|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or  http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl   [links for other events at bottom of page]|pg||
nt|twcho: any guess for the match-up?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: italy gets to choose  opponent from 5-8|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: Italy-jepan and then Dutch a very tough choice i would say in BB|pg||
nt|ahollan1: then netherlands from remainder of 5-8|pg||
nt|pelu: BB: US1 391, US2 389, England 384, China 368, Sweden 365, Indonesia 357, NL 355, France 352 - No9: Germany 345|pg||
nt|ahollan1: then USA2 remaindeer|pg||
nt|ahollan1: when QF pairings known   Italy chooses bracket|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with caveat that  Semi-Final must account for USA1 vs USA2|pg||
nt|santyclz: Doesn't USA 1 have to play USA 2.|pg||
nt|twcho: not in the QF|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Hi all|pg||
nt|ritong: hi|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: We are now LIVE here from Veldhoven |pg||
nt|ahollan1: bracket must account for USA1 vs USA2 in SemiFinal|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: And we are waiting for the Captains meeting to start|pg||
nt|pelu: first in Semi - so they have to be in same "group"|pg||
nt|ritong: entendu  ty|pg||
nt|ahollan1: times of KO rounds same as RR  |pg||
nt|santyclz: I'm told that requirement isn't until the semifinal, thanks all.|pg||
nt|vbman: japan eliminated|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: bracket=? caveat? we do not have all an English mothertongue:)?|pg||
nt|ritong: don t we all have access to google?|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Captains meeting will start in 12 minutes|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: bracket=selection and caveat=rule|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: We will announce the selections for the quarterfinals in this room LIVE from Veldhoven|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: in the VuGraph theater|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: W|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: We will announce Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup and Seniors Bowl as well|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: lovely tx kibs: I got for both words honestly more than 10 different explanations each:)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: So just keep your seat -- 9 minutes till start|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: of Captains meeting|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/Results/BoardAcross.asp?qboard=006.03..881|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: I am able to sing a song while we are waiting -- but you will all be happy that I dont have a microphone :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: I have some prediction|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: We have another possibility for you -- listen yourself to the livetransmission|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Link is: www.wkbridge2011.nl|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in lieu of Jan singing   you can listen to BBO Voice using  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or login via browser|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: go to the Livestreaming|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: and click on the open room --- you can see that there are no players at the table|pg||
nt|andreasw:  A duet with Roland and David;)!!|pg||
nt|chick: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: meanwhile the Dutch are glad that the Dutch ladies did qualify today (op het nippertje:)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: BUT there will be some sound from the microphone here in the VuGraph theater|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: 4 minutes left till the start of Captains Meeting|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: There is no camera here -- so no live pictures -- only sound|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Roland and David announced guess of Italy vs Iceland   i thought  Italy v China|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: listen to the what is happening in this room at www.wkbridge2011.nl - virtual stadium|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but i haven't checked for carryover from RR|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: I will be here writing --- almost trying to transscript everything|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: QF 2 days 2x48 boards (sunday and monday)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: as fast as possible :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Quarter Final and Semi Final  96 boards     Final 128|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: then 2 days SF 2x48 b|pg||
nt|ahollan1: carryover max of 16 imps|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: the top4 in Bermuda Bowl is|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: then 3 days final 48/48/32|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 20 imp max carryover for Final|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Italy - Netherlands - USA 2 - Israel|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: and then we all have suare eyes|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Top 4 in Venice Cup is: USA2 - USA1 - England - China|pg||
nt|ahollan1: please hold all typing  so  matchups can be announced|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Top 4 in Seniors Bowl : France - Poland - USA 2 - Denmark|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: MATCHUP WILL BE ANNOUNCED VERY SOON NOW|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Ernesto dOrsi has taken the word|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: and congratulates the qualifiers|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Venice Cup first|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: (Ladies first)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 2 selects first|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 2 selects second|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 1 selects second|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: England selects third|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: China "selects" fourth|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Alle teams now have been given a piece of paper with the possible carry-over |pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 2 selects Indonesia|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: VENICE CUP|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 2 - Indonesia|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 1 selects the Netherlands|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: England selects Sweden|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: China "selects" France|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 2 - Indonesia starts +16imps|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 1 - Netherlands starts + 16 imps|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: England - Sweden starts + 4 imps|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: China - France starts -4 imps|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Now proceedings about the semifinals|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 2 - Indonesia has chosen England - Sweden winner ...unless both USA teams wins their semifinals|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Now something about seeting rights in the quarterfinals|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: still Venice Cup|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: So far the Round Robin has been with "secret seetings" -- but in the quarterfinals there will be "seeting-rights"|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Venice Cup - quarterfinals is:|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 2  vs.  Indonesia (USA 2 has a carryover of 16 imps)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 1 vs. Netherlands (USA 1 has a carryover of 16 imps)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: England - Sweden (England has a carryover of 4 imps)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: China vs. France (France has a carryover of 4 imps)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: That the quarterfinals in the Venice Cup|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: UNLESS USA 1 and USA 2 wins there quarterfinals|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: the winner of USA 2 - Indonesia will play the winner of the match England - Sweden in the semifinals|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: END OF THE VENICE CUP -- lineups has to be in tonight (2 hours 15 minutes from now)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Now we go to the SENIORS BOWL|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: SENIORS BOWL NOW |pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Quarterfinalist|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: France|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Poland|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 2|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Denmark :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 1|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Australia|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Indonesia|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Germany|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: AND NOW THE SELECTION |pg||
nt|vugraphzns: SENIORS BOWL QUARTERFINALS WILL BE:|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: France selects Germany|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Poland selects Australia|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 2 selects Indonesia|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Denmark selects USA 1|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: UNLESS Usa1 AND Usa2 wins the quarterfinals then semifinals will be like this:|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Winner of France-Germany will in the semifinals meet the winner of Denmark-USA1|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Winner of Poland-Australia will in the semifinals meet the winner of USA2-Indonesia|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: UNLESS ---- USA 1 AND USA 2 both wins the quarterfinals|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: IF USA 1 and USA 2 both wins there quarterfinals then they will HAVE TO meet in the semifinals|pg||
nt|vbman: bb simdi belli olacak|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: AND THEN AND ONLY THEN the winner of France-Germany will have to meet the winner of Poland-Australia|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: no thanks, my star is small|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Carryovers|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Denmark starts with + 14,5 imp against USA 1|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 2 starts with +5,5 against Indonesia|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Poland starts with + 16 against Australia|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: France starts with -2 against Germany|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: NOW TO THE BERMUDA BOWL|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: NOW BERMUDA BOWL|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Italy selects China|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Netherlands selects Iceland|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 2 selects Sweden|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Israel selects USA 1|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Italy-China wants to play the winner of USA2-Sweden in the semifinals|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: UNLESS UNLESS -- BOTH USA1 AND USA2 wins their quarterfinals - in that case USA 1 and USA 2 have to meet in the semifinals|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: and IN THAT CASE -- and ONLY THE -- the winner of Italy-China will play the winner of Netherlands-Iceland in the semifinals|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: AND NOW THE RESULTS OF DRAWING FROM BERMUDA BOWL:|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Italy - China|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Netherlands - Iceland|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA 2 - Sweden|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Israel - Usa1|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: In a moment I will give you the Carry-overs|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: They will be announced in a second|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Israel stats +2 against USA1|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: USA2 starts -3,3 imps against Sweden|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Netherlands starts +14 against Iceland|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Italy starts -0,3 imps against China|pg||
nt|ritong: thank you jan  remarkable work   merci a tous|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: I didnt get the seeting rights -- but will have them later|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: That was all here from Veldhoven|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: We will be back tomorrow at 10.30am local time (Netherlands) with 6 matches from the quarterfinals here on BBO|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: We havent yet got the schedule|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: We will announce the BBO Schedule for tomorrow in just a moment|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: I guess two minutes|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: So be here -- if you want to know what we will show you tomorrow|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: No matter what matches we there will be on BBO I guarantee you lots of worldclass bridge :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: IT has been a great tournament so far|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: and the best thing is |pg||
nt|vugraphzns: that it will be even more exiting from now on because of the Knock-out|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Quarterfinale will be six sections of 16 boards|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: so 96 boards in total|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Played over 2 days|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: We are soon back with the schedule for tomorrow at 10.30am (local time)|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: And things are being discussed -- because we both BBO, Stepbridge and OurGame transmitting matches|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: and these three organisations are now "negotiating" what matches will be shown wher|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: the discussions are taking place right now|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: AND HERE ARE THE MATCHES ON BBO TOMORROW AT 10.30|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Bermuda Bowl: Italy vs. China|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Bermuda Bowl: Netherlands - Iceland|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Bermuda Bowl: USA2 - Sweden|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Bermuda Bowl: USA1 - Israel|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Venice Cup: England - Sweden|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Senior Bowl: USA 1 - Denmark|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: These were the six matches for tomorrow at 10.30|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Tomorrow we will announce the program for 13.45 and 16.45 matches|pg||
nt|pelu: tx Jan - wd hard job|pg||
nt|pelu: over 1300 was here to see the draws|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: We hope to see you all tomorrow|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Now it is time for some dinner here in Veldhoven|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: I will close this room in 10 seconds|pg||
nt|vugraphzns: Bye|pg||
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qx|c16|st||md|2S5HAK852DQ875CT52,S74HQJT43DJTCQJ64,SA862H76DAK9CAK97,SKQJT93H9D6432C83|sv|e|nt|rensph:  ducking that spade looked a little odd|pg||
nt|pelu: as so often - many partscore swings for Italy|pg||
nt|hedyg:  lol|pg||
nt|ady: last hand of the session thx all|pg||
nt|ady: thx specs|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Last board of this match, we restart at 16.45 thats in about 1hr 20 min|pg||
nt|ady: last hand of the session    thx all|pg||
nt|ady: thx kibs|pg||
nt|famus: so it goes to wht the other room does:)|pg||
nt|famus: thnks all--nice and fast match|pg||
nt|ady: thx Vincent|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: this is the last board of this round, next round will start in 2 hours. 13:45 local time. Thanks all for watching this very fast match!|pg||
nt|hlortz: and kibs can watch like 6 bds in OR|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Last board of this match, we will be back at 16.45 local time (75 minutes)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe 20-21 with upgrade|pg||
nt|ritong: next a last please:)|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Lucky @D Ace and back would have been -1.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: this is the last board of the set...|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: b17 and 26 did decide this match|pg||
nt|ady: last hand of the session coming up   well played China |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Last board|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Running scores : http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=881|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: no trudno..teraz ³adny szlemiczek|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i think an alert kibitzer is right, was going down if diamond queen covered|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: last board of this match|pg||
nt|barnets: good but normal result for NS here|pg||
nt|ady: last hand of the session thx all  thx specs|pg||
nt|jaapfr: was extremely fast|pg||
nt|jkotor: a jeszcze dodam (nie chc¹ mimo wszystko wyjæ na nadwornego krytyka naszych)|pg||
nt|ritong: that one took 17 seconds other room, play included|pg||
mb|1C|nt|vugraphznt: next match starts in 55 minutes from now|pg||
nt|ady: thx Natalia    thx specs|pg||
nt|xenya: declarer changes plan (somewhat incosistently perhaps), making contract |pg||
mb|1S|nt|boedhy:  throwing imps like candy..|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Last board, we start again at 13.45|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: that is in 1 hour|pg||
nt|rhelle:  this is tricky|pg||
nt|boedhy:  yes do you know there agreements|pg||
nt|rhelle:  they play dstructive preempts this vul(doesn't everybody?)|pg||
nt|boedhy:  what is the range|pg||
nt|rhelle:  but the temptation to bid 6@c must be strong|pg||
nt|athene: 2nt overcall perhaps|pg||
nt|athene: would be interesting to see how lauria-versace handle such interference|pg||
nt|gracelin: looks like a normal 4H hand on this last deal of the set.|pg||
nt|barnets: east overcalled one heart in open|pg||
nt|brolucius: East has preferred a double to 1@H (the modern choice) and may escape a penalty.|pg||
nt|ady: great result for USA here in OR|pg||
nt|brolucius: Of course they opened 1@D at the other table.|pg||
nt|ady: thx Gerbrand|pg||
nt|jaapfr: tx Gerbarand you were great as always|pg||
nt|hedyg:  our thanks to our outstanding operator in Eindhoven, Gerbrand Hop, well done! to my excellent fellow commentators David , Daniel , Gonzalo and Jaap as well as CK, William and Ralf on voice for donating their time to guide us through these boards|pg||
nt|jkotor: ¿e tylko jedna para z tej reprezentacji gra³a ostatnio wszystko razem i gra w lidze razem|pg||
nt|eggy:  I can't see too much potential for a disaster either way here.|pg||
mb|2H|nt|rhelle:  getting to 6@d now is too hard, I think|pg||
nt|rensph:  Even if spades break 4-1 taking the ace and returning a spade works equally well|pg||
nt|antoniz: bardzo trudny po otwarcie przeciwnika|pg||
nt|fabsayc: about the time they finish in open room :)|pg||
nt|psyck:  That is extremely fast for 1N|pg||
nt|santyclz: In the senior bowl Poland moved to the win from behind on bd 32, making x'd games in both rooms.|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: here even not enough though:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: So many thanks to Bob Drijver our excellent Operator.  To the specs for their wit and wisdom.  To Bill Frisby for his contributions and, of course, to WBF for allowing us to watch ...|pg||
nt|kareno: their marvelous production of the world championships.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Opened room started 10 minutes later than this room|pg||
nt|fabsayc: they are bidding 15 there|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: because the match is on VuGraph|pg||
nt|ady: slam to finish|pg||
nt|gulyas: ty all, it was an exciting match here|pg||
mb|2S|an|extra|nt|vugraphznt: bocchi pointing out 3H makes|pg||
nt|idc: Last board at this table (the Open room have 4 more though) so time for thanks:|pg||
nt|santyclz: True, only 16 imps....|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: Dennis tx for perfect job as usual and congrats to China|pg||
mb|p|nt|rhelle:  4@d may be an artificial slam try in @c|pg||
nt|boedhy:  will bid 5@c now expecting @h points|pg||
nt|athene: traditionally, this double shows a desire to penalize opps, but my guess is EW just use it to show some values|pg||
nt|barnets: I prefer the unfortunate 1@H bid|pg||
nt|twcho: last board for this round|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: and a memorable victory for Australia|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: We will be back at 13.45 local time|pg||
nt|petergill: West is thinking about whether to convert to 4@H|pg||
nt|twcho: hi Peter, a good win for your country|pg||
nt|petergill: If W does bid 4@H, then @SA lead works well, but might not be South's choice after this auction. The 3@S raise at the other table worked well, by guiding S to @SA lead|pg||
nt|psyck:  David Bird would be pleased with that speed though|pg||
nt|ritong: talking about this slam:)|pg||
nt|rnmalik: defence helped too:)|pg||
nt|ady: looks like n/s can make 5@C      |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: you're welcome :) thanks all for the commentating|pg||
nt|ady: thx all|pg||
nt|ady: ths Denis|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: tx David and kibs last session at 16.45|pg||
nt|ady: thx specks|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and then Icelands faith has been put into other hands|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Having a stiff spade and a good suit, bidding 2@H is clear and not close in my opinion|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: I cant figure out if Iceland is safe in Top8 -- but I think not, yet|pg||
mb|3C|nt|brolucius: 1@D will be a transfer bid.|pg||
nt|hedyg:  as well as to the World Bridge Federation and to the World Bridge Federation with the Nederlandse Bridge Bond for sharing this important event  with us,especially to Jacob Hop who is instrumental in organising the broadcasts on behalf of BBO!|pg||
nt|jkotor: przed ME cykl powa¿nych przygotowañ by³ trochê d³u¿szy i porz¹dniejszy|pg||
nt|ritong: merci karen|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: The next session starts in around 1 hours and 10 minutes. It will be the last session of the day.|pg||
nt|kit: This time it is right to play the 5-3 major-suit fit|pg||
nt|athene: maybe even promising spades|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Last board for the day, back tomorrow at 10.30 Paris time|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: here at the playing site in Veldhoven|pg||
nt|fabsayc: thanks to our excellent operator Jan Nielsen|pg||
nt|idc: to my fellow commentator Joe and to our Operator Paul|pg||
nt|lechcold: nie p³aczmy na zapas,do strefy awansu niedaleko, jutro jest nowy dzieñ|pg||
nt|garden2005: nast¹pi przebudzenie|pg||
nt|ady: another game for n/s|pg||
nt|ritong: uh oh|pg||
nt|ritong: but north has a lot|pg||
nt|ritong: brutal bids of that sort must be precise|pg||
nt|psyck:  yes N will get to slam opp a positive response|pg||
nt|ritong: my guess would be 5332 9/10|pg||
nt|psyck:  1@c is 17+, so 8-9HCP 5332 for the 3N maybe|pg||
nt|ritong: anyway stefanov will drive on|pg||
nt|ritong: he is considering which way|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: and return whilst last round RR is full of tension|pg||
mb|3N|nt|boedhy:  still liking his hand|pg||
nt|jaapfr: despite this loss of Italy they still do lead the Round Robin pack after round 5|pg||
nt|idc: to the WBF for allowing us to broadcast this event|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Martel doesn't particularly mind a @s contract by e-w.|pg||
nt|idc: and as always to Roland and BBO, without whose work none of this amazing stuff would happen|pg||
nt|hedyg:  special thanks to our specs for joining and the kind and helpful messages. we hope you enjoyed the show.|pg||
nt|ady: may take some bidding   4th heart and the jack  the key|pg||
nt|hlortz: thx David, Hasan|pg||
nt|fabsayc: last board, thanks to our operator Felipe and to my co-commentators Peter and Henry|pg||
nt|ritong: sober|pg||
nt|ady: bad splits in the majors may beat any major suit game    but  5 clubs looks a make getting diamon d position right|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: tension here already. The Dutch all follow their ladies team|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: anyone any idea of ages N and S?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: currently 8th, but France in 9th|pg||
mb|p|nt|rensph:  in this layout it all mattered very little, had north held the @HK it would've been a very effective @SQ|pg||
nt|famus: i rate them favourite to win|pg||
nt|gracelin: some care is needed here.  But I am confident Shi will also bring this home.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: LIAN already left the table|pg||
nt|jaapfr: a well educated quess Famus±'|pg||
nt|gracelin: the next match will start in 40 minutes from now.  Tks all for watching and hope you have enjoyed some great hands.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: ±'|pg||
nt|gracelin: Will also like to thank Felipe, our most capable operator who explained many bidding sequences to us.|pg||
nt|pelu: a way to play is @cA - @H to Q, @hA and then 4x@D discard @s, then @C AND MAKING 11|pg||
nt|jaapfr: looks tough for E )DD very easy'|pg||
nt|jaapfr: but he is afraid for @H loss @C@C and @SA for down 1|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer want to cash HA first as a safety play(he could afford t lose one trump), but here the threat for club overruff made that play not totally safe.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: and very afraid for ducking this IF S 6 card @C|pg||
nt|famus: playing @hA is sure wau to -1|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 7 card|pg||
nt|famus: 6 cards he has so needs to duck|pg||
nt|gracelin: with a 7-card club suit at this Vul. south may have bid more.  so duck the first club then take trump finesse maybe a good way.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i hope he does not go for the line @CA @HA x@S|pg||
nt|lechcold: dojd¹|pg||
nt|lechcold: chyba...|pg||
nt|jkotor: OBY!|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: fate -- not faith off course :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: and to the spectators for some alert analysis|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: and to the commentator for an excellent job |pg||
nt|vugraphznt: do you think 3@d is forcing or not here?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: W seems to be in doubt|pg||
mb|p|nt|boedhy:  now pass finally|pg||
nt|rhelle:  good sequence - 5@c is again 50% at best|pg||
nt|boedhy:  slam again 50% or so|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well the 6 card trump support is hardly clear|pg||
nt|antoniz: mnie jest po prostu smutno,ale wierzê w przebudzenie naszych reprezentantów:)|pg||
nt|jkotor: * nie chc¹c|pg||
nt|lechcold: nie by³y to ³atwe rozdania|pg||
nt|psyck:  whichever strain he chooses will work as cards lay|pg||
nt|psyck:  6@c the normal choice to protect @dK|pg||
nt|eggy:  on this score they are safe I think|pg||
nt|jfeld:  So, Iceland looks safe to me|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Even if Japan blitzed they can't catch them|pg||
nt|eggy:  japan cannot pick up enough more (they are on 21 already)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: If that is so I will congratulate both teams in this match|pg||
pc|sK|nt|boedhy:  no problems in the play|pg||
nt|rhelle:  North: you guys have a bit of a @h fit|pg||
nt|kareno: Spectators, you'd better reserve your seats for the entire tournament - there is much wonderful bridge coming up!!|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: W decides that 3@d was non forcing and passed|pg||
nt|petergill: At this vulnerability, I'm a big fan of Fleischer's decision to treat KQx as four spades |pg||
nt|petergill: Fleisher I mean|pg||
nt|twcho: if non-@s lead, declarer will go down at most one|pg||
nt|petergill: @SA lead ---> 300 when declarer has to try for 3-3 trumps to try to make his contract, but I think a @D lead might be more likely|pg||
nt|ritong: well|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: Dennis?|pg||
pc|s5|nt|lechcold: :(|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i wonder if he has A10x in spades if things would have been different|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Li just left the room -- and now Liu is on his own -- will he manage that?|pg||
nt|ehsana: .....|pg||
nt|fabsayc: meanwhile 5@D in open room going down undoubled|pg||
nt|brolucius: Bocchi now has a decision to make. Pass, 2NT, 3@D? He has chosen 2NT.|pg||
nt|ady: request for a link to running scores please|pg||
nt|barnets: 2@SX would not have been much fun|pg||
nt|psyck:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|petergill: If @D lead to ace, then on @CJ at Trick 2, S must rise ace OR underlead @SA when @D is ruffed|pg||
nt|lechcold: Brazylijczycy zagrali dobrze|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: jeli nawet, to nic nie t³umaczy gry katastrofalnej, a tak¹ w nadmiarze tu ogl¹dam od 4 dni|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: jutro o 10.30 przekaz z meczu seniorow Polska-USA 2|pg||
nt|jkotor: ? ja tylko wyrywkowo |pg||
nt|lechcold: gra od pocz¹tku siê nie klei, to prawda|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: a o 16.45 - mecz open Polska-Izrael, rowniez z przekazem wideo|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this result wont help Sweden, who are borderline for qualifying to KO stage|pg||
nt|hlortz: thanks msrtin peter and our great kibs & operator.. it was a 2 board match for usa team...|pg||
nt|ritong: pard can hold @s KQJxx and an ace, perhaps|pg||
nt|ady: australia pulled back 5 on hand 29|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Shi seems rather old, Lian is younger (like 30s or 40s)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: ty|pg||
pc|s4|nt|twcho: now declarer is safe from being punched|pg||
nt|gulyas: S probably showing distribution here|pg||
nt|hlortz: /martin/|pg||
nt|ady: not many top losers in hears with J9 doubleton   but spade force may deadent the club suit|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Thanks Vladimir and Harold and all the specs, absorbing bridge.|pg||
nt|ady: n/s look out of the bidding at this stage|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: once i told Shi is old, he immediately took out his 5@c :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: what a bid 5@C:)|pg||
nt|ady: oh a different turn|pg||
nt|resurectin:  not sure after interference, but usually 2d shows normal opening hand|pg||
nt|eggy:  and sweden are playing New zealand who are the only others who can pvertake them|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  Although the dummy's @c holding looks ominous.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 3nt|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: I think south showed some @S now|pg||
nt|hedyg:  Gerbrand when is restart please?|pg||
nt|garden2005: dziêkujê za wspólne kibicowanie - dobranoc :)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: I love 5@C|pg||
nt|ady: dont know where that came from|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: from SHI|pg||
nt|yuval10: if X over 2@c was for a lead, and showed good suit, then why not?|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: i think edgtton is writing that dbl shows interest in bidding 5@h|pg||
nt|ady: though not sure about the west double?|pg||
nt|jfeld:  This looks like an easy 9 tricks with Diamonds coming home|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|rensph:  3N is made on a heart lead and continuation here, but if defenders set up a diamond trick early on declarer will still have to find the @SQ|pg||
nt|rensph:  I'm also informed that lauria made 4@S on this hand|pg||
nt|rensph:  3NT, sorry|pg||
nt|jacksond: if plays donde for spade queen he makes quite easily|pg||
nt|rensph:  sorry, 3N making with clubs 3-3|pg||
nt|fabsayc: been called worse|pg||
nt|psyck:  well, if 3N limited hand, he is not looking fro grand|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|xenya: from N's double?|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: yyy|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: hoi vlad|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: can't properly read the note, all writing are mixed together|pg||
nt|ritong: the line is interesting, though|pg||
nt|ritong: how would you proceed?|pg||
nt|jfeld:  duck 2 spades|pg||
nt|ritong: means two discards from dummy|pg||
nt|jfeld:  and try to duck a heart to the safe hand|pg||
nt|jfeld:  I would pitch a club|pg||
pc|h2|nt|brolucius: North realised that his partner must have had some purpose in bidding 2@C checkback. When it turned out that he was not looking for four hearts, he knew that he must have been ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: looking for a 5-3 spade fit.|pg||
nt|lechcold: 5@C Krzysztof potraktowa³ jako normalny cue-bid|pg||
nt|famus: Thnks Henery--and i go along with the n key:)|pg||
nt|ady: clubs in fact blocked if the play 3NT    4 spades safer|pg||
nt|hlortz: :)|pg||
nt|ady: anyone know it Italy in slam on hand 31?|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Yes they are|pg||
nt|ady: apparently ye    tht so|pg||
nt|jfeld:  and a heart|pg||
pc|s7|nt|xenya: thanks Rashed, Harold -- and everyone|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: wlc|pg||
nt|yuval10: S wanted to bid it anyway but wanted to hear more from opps|pg||
nt|xenya: hoi Jaap|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: all pressure now on E|pg||
nt|ady: I agree 5@C  from Shi a good possibility   but seemed to be lrking in wings for a couple of rounds|pg||
nt|yuval10: he was affraid that the bidding will stall after 3@s so he bided what he wanted to bid at first place|pg||
nt|ady: this must confirm a good win for China|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: running scores: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|ady: assuming this makes|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and offcourse this one is down on @s lead|pg||
nt|rhelle:  thinking about it, 6@c is down on a @s lead|pg||
nt|kit: 10 easy tricks with spades splitting, but only 8 in notrump|pg||
nt|brolucius: if you want to listen to Voice Commentary, you should go directly to website: http://www.bridgebase.com/|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: 16.45 1hr 20 from now|pg||
nt|jaapfr: mb they go for 6@D|pg||
nt|gulyas: next set starting at 16:45|pg||
nt|fluffy: probably 3NT is 5422, and now north has to think|pg||
nt|hedyg:  shame only the 1st page of the NS CC is loaded :(|pg||
nt|jaapfr: @DQ so vital here|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: I try to read what South wrote down|pg||
nt|fluffy: against many 8 HCP hands 6@d has no play|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Lauria did bid 4NT as East|pg||
nt|yuval10: it will|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: yes it will make|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: simple after this lead|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: pls kibs we are not responsible for the bids of the players:)|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: i hear Lian 45 and SHI 47 (your bridge much better than yr agequessing Dennis:)|pg||
nt|eggy:  if he ducks enough spades East he might even end up with a squeeze of West for +1 I think|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|famus: yes--too tired--as pointed out by informed kibtz-- taking @H  A wud need to squeeze|pg||
nt|oosmanb: and Versace has bid 6@H|pg||
nt|ritong: now he has an avoidance play if east has three@hs including exactly one card superior to the 8|pg||
pc|h5|nt|vugraphznt: Bye for now|pg||
nt|kareno: So that's it and Italy will get most or all of the VPs for this match.  Well done!!|pg||
nt|rensph:  lets see how declarer handles 4@S here though|pg||
nt|gracelin: He play Hear to break 2-2 or a singleton honor drops.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: pity|pg||
nt|gracelin: Italy recovered 19 mps in last 2 boards for a tied match.  Bye all|pg||
nt|famus: so a well deserved 1 imp:) thnks all|pg||
nt|jaapfr: still China wins    wddddddddd±'|pg||
nt|gracelin: indeed.  They tied with both Sweden and Italy today|pg||
nt|jaapfr: ±' ±'|pg||
nt|jaapfr: i try to smile but fail............±)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: ty everybody|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: see you soon|pg||
nt|lechcold: przyda³oby siê 4N jako cue-ogólny|pg||
nt|petergill: If @CJ to king at Trick 2, then on @DK N will play @D9 as suit pref for @SA underlead|pg||
nt|jaapfr: 6@D plsssssss|pg||
nt|ady: may know shape   but needs KJ hearts as well as QD|pg||
nt|fluffy: he is also worried about clubs because he has @cQx and partner could have 2 low|pg||
pc|h3|nt|antoniz: po kontrze w 3tr,chyba lepsze 4tr|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: jutrzejsze przekazy zaczynaja sie o 10.30|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: do zobaczenia|pg||
nt|antoniz: dziêki i do us³yszenia:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: do zobaczenia|pg||
nt|antoniz: dziêki wszystkim,do us³yszenia:)|pg||
nt|kamyk: dobranoc, dziekujê|pg||
nt|hlortz: lol my typing gets worse at 3:40 am|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: not my strongest point, i agree :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: but i was right that lian was the younger one|pg||
nt|yuval10: running scores:  http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=881|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: declarer can not go wrong imo|pg||
nt|yuval10: the server is sometimes sluggish but that's the correct URL|pg||
nt|ady: hand 30    china fained 5 imps making +80 in 1 spade|pg||
nt|ady: gained|pg||
nt|ritong: giving up on that suit|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|ady: this likely to make|pg||
nt|brolucius: (My spelling is better than my typing.)|pg||
nt|barnets: should the two teams meet later on in the KO stages|pg||
nt|barnets: a good match and especially fine performance by the young USA team|pg||
nt|brolucius: East doubled 1@C, so not certain that declarer will score four diamonds.|pg||
nt|brolucius: East will not hold a singleton diamond for his double, so declarer will start with the @DK.|pg||
nt|ady: maybe south will raise|pg||
nt|ady: no|pg||
nt|gulyas: no reason to, he told his story already|pg||
nt|fluffy: soth has told his story, he is not raising|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: South going through the auction, and asks who is declarer|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: And told he has a good hand for N|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes they are|pg||
pc|sT|nt|idc: I should also thank the players - been a lot of good bridge to watch|pg||
nt|ady: has he shown the vital Q@D?|pg||
nt|jaapfr: yes but his hcp are so beautiful|pg||
nt|gulyas: :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: North could do a slam try|pg||
nt|ritong: i would do like you, jason|pg||
nt|ritong: keeping the @h option|pg||
pc|h8|nt|ady: especially getting diamonds right|pg||
nt|barnets: this will still be a small swing to USA team|pg||
nt|brolucius: With -500 on there partners' card, it was very much the right thing to do (as it happens) to bid game.|pg||
nt|brolucius: ..their..|pg||
nt|barnets: who will win this match and have a carry forward of some kind|pg||
nt|ady: may make even with 3 diamonds    as long as playing 1st club from north|pg||
nt|ady: thx Henry Hasan|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Lauria now thinking of bidding 6NT vs pass|pg||
pc|h4|nt|boedhy:  well good start for the Netherlands...and with all these difficult and lively boards fun to watch|pg||
nt|boedhy:  bye bye|pg||
nt|rhelle:  ok, thx all - see you in an hour|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Bye|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|nt|petergill: Now S must rise on @CJ|pg||
nt|kamyk: no ale pamiêtajmy o chorobie Narkiewicza - to musia³o miec istotny wp³yw; ten sam sk³ad by³ w stanie osiagn¹æ du¿o wiêcej; no i jeszcze nie wszystko stracone|pg||
pc|hK|nt|ady: doubled paert score sing   China played 2@C making 10 tricks in OR on hand 30|pg||
nt|yuval10: also http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|ady: China have put a very creditable performance this match  |pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|ady: I think will get diamond right   as does not want west on lead|pg||
nt|brolucius: East could easily be 4-4-4-1 for his initial take-out double.|pg||
nt|ady: well thx all|pg||
nt|jbennet: wd NS |pg||
pc|hA|nt|ady: bye|pg||
nt|fluffy: his hcp are maximum yes jaap, but partner could have anything|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: thx all cu in 1hr and 20 min|pg||
nt|hedyg:  he had 2 jacks in his beautiful hcps LOL|pg||
nt|jaapfr: yes tx all bye|pg||
nt|gulyas: thnx all|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h7|nt|jaapfr vg: b17 and b17 made up for the exact difference between China and Australia sofar|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: b17 and b26|pg||
nt|jbennet: at last a pair who ventured biddin in early stage. reaching their unbeatable 5 Clubs|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: i think official playing time was over 7 minutes ago, but no director yet|pg||
nt|yuval10: it looks like the first 5 teams are locked in the QF ( Italy, NET, USA2, Israel and USA1 ) , while many teams are struggling for the last 3 spots|pg||
nt|xenya: so China was 2.5VP ahead of Australia after board 30. With Sweden pressing closely behind the last round is going to be fascinating|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|brolucius: When you Join a table that has voice commentary (there will always be two during the world championships), you can switch on each of the three commentators.|pg||
nt|famus: tx David|pg||
nt|pelu: the "slam" here need @S 3-2, K onside and @D 3-3|pg||
nt|ritong: which does not cancel the @c option|pg||
nt|jfeld:  well it does |pg||
nt|ritong: does it?|pg||
nt|jfeld:  because of entries|pg||
nt|eggy:  well no squeeze for +1 then as the heart threat has been thrown|pg||
nt|ritong: you have to play for QJ on, no?|pg||
pc|c2|nt|ady: bye all|pg||
nt|hlortz: bye|pg||
nt|famus: byee|pg||
nt|jfeld:  you can't try diamonds first then|pg||
pc|c4|nt|barnets: I am not sure of the exact carryovers but it usually depends on which team finishes higher in the round robin|pg||
nt|brolucius: West false-carded the @DQ, to mislead declarer as to the position of the @DJ.|pg||
nt|antoniz: do us³yszenia,dziêki|pg||
pc|cK|nt|jaapfr: standings after this round : Neth 161 Italy 155 Israel 149 and usa2 137|pg||
nt|idc: including that last play - East realizes he can afford 2 trump losers but only if he starts on side suit immediately|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: thanks Karen great operating, thanks Henry and Tommy and all spectators for great feedback|pg||
nt|ahollan1: running scores  http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl    bottom of page has links for other 2 championship events|pg||
nt|ady: will lose 1 more trick|pg||
nt|yuval10: 1 match left in the round rubin stage, starting tomorrow, they'll play the QF stage, in 2 days|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|jfeld:  w can split|pg||
pc|dA|nt|brolucius: But no doubt he was helped by East's switch to the @D7. |pg||
nt|barnets: tks all specs|pg||
nt|brolucius: Thanks for watching!|pg||
nt|ady: kept the loss to 1 imp|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  19-11|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  16-19 =  19-11|pg||
nt|ady: enterprising match|pg||
nt|ady: thx all   bye|pg||
nt|twcho: good defense by Edgtton|pg||
pc|d2|nt|twcho: tks everyone and bye now|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: great win Australia|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: Ok bye all, we will be back in an hour|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: next round in an hour|pg||
nt|petergill: A good win by the Aussies, aged 19 (Nabil Edgtton), about 26 or 27 (Paul Gosney) 33 (Nunn) and near 40 Sartaj Hans|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: thx all|pg||
nt|ritong: so the possible carryover between these two teams will not be huge|pg||
nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg||
nt|ahollan1: round 20 of 21 starts in 55 minutes|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ryskiel_: zapraszam na jutro o 10:30 mo¿e zaci¹g gierkowski wstydu nam nie przyniesie|pg||
nt|bobh1: thx all ... c u later|pg||
nt|ady: bye|pg||
nt|jfeld:  and you have no entry back to the south hand|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Ty all|pg||
nt|roswolf: bye all|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Grazie, Dz.|pg||
nt|ady: thx all   bye|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: thanks all, see you tomorrow|pg||
pc|dK|nt|vugraphznt: This was the last hand of this session, thank you all for watching. We will restart at 16:45 local time.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Many thanks again, Dirk.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Thanks for watching!|pg||
nt|yuval10: 96 boards for both the QF and the SF, 128 for the final|pg||
pc|d3|nt|fabsayc: on board 17 you go down if you start by drawing trumps, martel played what appears to me as the best line|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: China did play tight disciplined good bridge and derve imo a place in QF|pg||
nt|ady: thx all|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: deserve|pg||
nt|ady: bye|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: bye david tx|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: ok, thanks all for watching, the next and final round will start in 30 minutes|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: bye all|pg||
pc|d7|nt|vugraphznt: tyeverybody|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: see you at 13.45 local time|pg||
nt|hlortz: on the auction w/ fredin's dbl of @D for sure|pg||
nt|pelu: and he also did get a little help from W who D a cuebid in @D|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|ritong: so he s safe|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d4|nt|rensph:  well done by declarer to limit his losses to down one, will still earn him 3 imps|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: ty all|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|lechcold: do zobaczenia|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: do widzenia wszystkim i dziêkujê |pg||
nt|xenya: we will be back with Round 20 in about an hour (13.45 CET) |pg||
nt|rnmalik: @S lead could beat the contract, as suggested by a spec " friendly match":)|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|d8|nt|rnmalik: Thanks all.CU.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: thanks all, see you back at 13.45 hours ..|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: I leave the table open until the open room has finished...|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|santyclz2:  Hoping for a 10 or j doubleton.|pg||
pc|c7|nt|santyclz2:  Thanks all, bye for now.|pg||
nt|santyclz2:  See you  in the open room.|pg||
nt|vugraphznt: thx all, I will leave this room open until OR is finished. See you tomorrow!|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ritong: but the hand was a bit less mundane than expected:)|pg||
mc|9|nt|jfeld:  Thanks everyone|pg||
nt|eggy:  Thanks everyone - KO's tomorrow where there is no second chance! :)|pg||
nt|jfeld:  Stay tuned for the exciting selections, and of course we will be covering it on http://www.bridgewinners.com|pg||
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