vg|B - Bermuda Bowl 2011,Semi Final 5_6,I,1,16,USA 1,113,USA 2,125|
rs|3NE+3,3NE+3,3HN-2,2SE-1,6CN-1,4HN=,4SW+1,4SW+1,2SW+2,1NE+2,5DSx-3,6DSx-4,4SS=,4SS=,4SW-1,5CE-1,2SN+1,2SN+1,4HW-1,2HW+1,6CN-1,5CS=,5CN=,5CN=,1NS=,1HN+1,6CW=,4HW+2,6NS-2,3NS+2,4HW=,4SE-1|
pn|WEINSTEIN,GRUE,LEVIN,LALL,WOOLDRIDGE,STANSBY,HURD,MARTEL|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3S95HJ65DA62CKQ954,SQ64HAQDKT974CJ72,SKJ873HT92D53CT83,SAT2HK8743DQJ8CA6|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|gavin:  Good morning to everyone just waking up in north america|pg||
mb|3C!|an|ask for 5-card major|mb|p|mb|3H|an|I have 5!Hs|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gavin:  USA 2 has done badly in their first set of every day the entire tournament|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: 3@c asked for 5card major |pg||
nt|vugraphznu: and 3@h showed 5@hs|pg||
nt|gavin:  Their captain Curtis Cheek joked on facebook that he was petitioning to have the morning match start time delayed for a few hours|pg||
pc|c4|nt|gavin:  Weinstein - Levin play attitude leads against NT|pg||
nt|gavin:  the lower the card they lead , the more they like the suit they are leading|pg||
nt|gavin:  A lot of attitude leads is to help guide the defense later|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|gavin:  They may like the suit they are leading, but have another suit they want shifted to|pg||
pc|cK|nt|gavin:  in which case they wouldnt lead their lowest spot|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s3|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s8|pc|sT|nt|gavin:  Lots of people asking me questions about the score, I have no idea|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3S95HJ65DA62CKQ954,SQ64HAQDKT974CJ72,SKJ873HT92D53CT83,SAT2HK8743DQJ8CA6|sv|o|nt|vugraphznv: match is starting now, welcome|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they started and i loaded brd 1 , but no cards|pg||
nt|ady: good morning    is this room english commentary?|pg||
nt|ady: good afternoon rather|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i can not|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: sorry|pg||
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nt|ady: good afternoon all|pg||
nt|ady: english in closed room?|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Hello everyone and welcome to entertaining bridge.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: witam ponownie|pg||
nt|odysseus69: good m orning all|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Hi all and welcome to this exiting match between two of the best teams in the Bermuda Bowl so far|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Hello all|pg||
nt|jbgood: Good afternoon from Veldhoven|pg||
nt|desinka: Hi all , welcome|pg||
nt|ady: 9 tricks available in spades for n/s|pg||
nt|desinka: Hi David|pg||
nt|ady: Hi Dessy|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: welcome everyone, important match between 3rd and 4th here|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Hi all -- Have just been informed that we are going to start in 1 minutes|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: similar systems 5 card mjaors|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and here we go|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Hi everyone|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and we are go|pg||
nt|hlortz: hello all|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hi henry, spectators|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and we are go|pg||
nt|xenya: hello everyone|pg||
nt|szalay: hi all|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Hello all, we are starting|pg||
nt|kit: hi everybody|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and we are go|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Hello everyone and welcome.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: hi kit :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: hi rashed :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: we3 are off|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: good afternoon everyone|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: this is the final set of the quarter finals of the Bermuda Bowl|pg||
nt|roswolf: team orange have a small carryover from the RR|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
nt|roswolf: might be played in 2@H or oerhaps 1nt by n/s|pg||
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nt|vugraphznv: Hi all, we start now|pg||
nt|rv: Hi Dennis and all specs, warm regards from sunny Bangalore in Southern part of India|pg||
mb|p|nt|oosmanb: And we're off|pg||
nt|roswolf: spade partscore likely|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Yes we are, they were impatiant to start:)|pg||
mb|1H|nt|xenya: hello everyone|pg||
nt|xenya: some action here|pg||
nt|xenya: hard to tell where all that will end|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I will enter the bids 2 and 2 |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: so that the players have no chance to know who might be fast or slow at the other side of the screen|pg||
nt|ady: with such a big fit might get pverboard|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: hi Jan on vugraph|pg||
nt|fabsayc: usa2 tied for 2nd, sweden 9th and needing to move up to qualify for KO stage|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: japan|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: sorry|pg||
nt|bobholl: weak two @D with 4 @S ?|pg||
nt|ady: wild hand to start|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: witamy|pg||
nt|xenya: S might double now?|pg||
nt|desinka: hello all|pg||
nt|barnets: hi david|pg||
nt|nkgupt: hi all|pg||
mb|2D|nt|lechcold: wa¿ny mecz z konkurentem do awansu i medalu(?)|pg||
nt|xenya: but he opted for a natural bid|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: what about a good practical bid|pg||
nt|desinka: welcome|pg||
nt|ady: 2@D shows one of the major suits|pg||
nt|ady: Nortj will be very surprised its spades|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2nt=Lebensohl|pg||
nt|ady: 1NT with stiff king not usual|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Herbsts play Nat, Acol based, Major 5, better minor|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 1@C natural but may be a two card suit|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Hi Traian.|pg||
nt|bobholl: they won't bid 3nt anymore i guess :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: FREAK hand for north first up|pg||
nt|ady: hi Naresh|pg||
mb|p|nt|kamyk: dzieñ dobry (jeli to "polski pokój")|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: dzien dobry|pg||
nt|antoniz: witam serdecznie:)|pg||
nt|antoniz: polski|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Sweden has switched back to its Big Club pair|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Somers and Both both from Belgium according to their badge|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi naresh|pg||
mb|2N|nt|vugraphznv: hi all - and wlc to Veldhoven|pg||
nt|lechcold: witam|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: hi Victor|pg||
nt|lml: hello|pg||
nt|lml: this auction is following the same lines as in the Open Room|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: it is Stansby taking a pause here|pg||
nt|lml: the trick will be the opening lead against a 6 level contract by north south|pg||
nt|panosk: gd morning to all|pg||
nt|ady: 2NT  leb   3@D direct would be forcing to game I would think|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: We have some huge technical problems with the PC and internet connections here in the closed room|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: SORRY for that|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: We are getting some technical assistance- and will try to be back very soon |pg||
nt|kiwibridge: we know you are doing all you can Jan, no worries|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I do|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: And the bidding on Board 18 in this room went |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2@h opening from E|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: DBL by S|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 3@h (preempt)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: pass fromN|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Pass from E|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: DBL by S|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: then N bid 4@c|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: going down 2|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: South thinking|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he took the pass card out|pg||
nt|fabsayc: fallenius may cue bid 4@S|pg||
nt|hlortz: both sides can make a lot of tricks|pg||
nt|xenya: a relatively peaceful hand, for starters?|pg||
nt|hedyg:  EW CC: http://tinyurl.com/66ttlf5|pg||
nt|szalay: wd u reopen as West?|pg||
nt|barnets: playing 3N in open|pg||
nt|kit: Pachtman knows his partner is short in hearts.  What he doesn't know about is the club fit.  But he can see 9 tricks.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: South in the tank|pg||
nt|barnets: same bidding in open south passed|pg||
nt|kit: if South finds a 4@C call, North can reasonably bid the slam.|pg||
nt|kit: But bidding 4@C is a pretty big position I think.|pg||
nt|rnmalik: and likely pass here too. S has no bid for that matter.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he is still thinking|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Can't NS make 6@C?|pg||
nt|kit: of course they can|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: hi Geoffrey|pg||
nt|roswolf: i might have overcalled 1nt as east|pg||
nt|nkgupt: hi david,geoff|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3nt is somewhat of a punt|pg||
nt|ady: north bidding his shape if not his hcp|pg||
nt|roswolf: who needs points!?|pg||
nt|ady: better than 4@H  they may have got to with a free run|pg||
nt|roswolf: if south doubles the azurri may run but if he doesnt then they might make|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: good morning everyone|pg||
nt|rv: Hi Dennis and all specs|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: today we have session 4, 5 and 6 of the semi finals|pg||
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mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Bulgaria bid 6@S in Open Room|pg||
nt|odysseus69: Round 10 and Israel are performing well while Bulgaria are lower in the table than their recent form|pg||
nt|odysseus69: the dreaded xxx opposite xxx as stopper- 3H from West should show values|pg||
nt|xenya: this may well make on a spade lead|pg||
nt|desinka: hello Panos:)|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 2@C GF relay|pg||
nt|roswolf: apart from the hcp he has an empty hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: south with both majors(though weak) is strangely silent|pg||
nt|gracelin: Hi all|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this also gives you access to Voice Commentary for both rooms in our match|pg||
mb|3N|nt|star6ija: hello everybody :)|pg||
nt|ady: it appears the contract n/s is 6@S    not all bid in 1 go|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: dzien dobry|pg||
nt|odysseus69: Then ???  3NT - Pass???|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: @sA in hand|pg||
nt|xenya: which is likely|pg||
nt|lml: in the OR they led the @SA|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and N still dont know what majorsuit S has|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he passed slowly :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS  1N=15-17|pg||
nt|rv: this promises to be battle royale, 2 experienced and top sides in good form|pg||
nt|rv: Hi Al|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: hi|pg||
nt|lml: its fun to watch my friends play from Canada play the talented Israeli pair|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, and why not?|pg||
nt|lml: do you think Stansby should double for a diamond lead?|pg||
nt|lml: is it possible to figure this out?|pg||
nt|ady: north must still think hearts south suit|pg||
nt|kit: perhaps he should get a small bonus for thinking :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: lol true|pg||
nt|roswolf: t/o dbl of hearts|pg||
nt|ahollan1: here we go again RV|pg||
nt|hedyg:  EW CC: http://tinyurl.com/67anzfx|pg||
nt|rv: Hi Hedy, gm|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: madala thanking dummy: 'all the ladies are with Bocchi' :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: ze Szwecj¹ nigdy nie by³o ³atwo i czêciej oni nas lali ni¿ my ich...zobaczymy|pg||
nt|lechcold: witamy naszego vugrafa:)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: Barel chose the natural option|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@H is not so clear as a cue bid, not sure the intent|pg||
nt|ahollan1: IMPs for Netherlands from carryover of head-to-head match in Round Robin|pg||
nt|gracelin: China is behind by 37 imps but there are 48 boards to go.  So all is not finished yet.|pg||
nt|roswolf: well they shouldnt|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm a quick defeat likely|pg||
nt|ady: cannot make on any lead    just 8 tricks|pg||
mb|p|nt|ryskiel_: witam w kolejnym dzisiejszym meczu, ostatnim|pg||
nt|ady: 4@D down 1 on best defence|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Bulgaria at the moment in 9th |pg||
nt|ady: must set up 2 heart tricks before clubs are established|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: so they would need some VPs to get in the top 8|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: "You often have singletons opening 1nt?" asks S|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: dziñ dobry - witam w przedostatniej rundzie RR - dru¿yna polska spotyka siê z reprezentacj¹ Islandii|pg||
nt|xenya: hello everyone|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: hi Vladimir|pg||
nt|bobholl: didn't north know it was natural ?|pg||
nt|roswolf: ok a slow defeat|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW  weak NT, Strong 1@C|pg||
nt|roswolf: tarzan leaps into the fray|pg||
pc|c4|nt|lml: theoretically this should go one down, 1 heart, 1 spade and 2 diamonds|pg||
nt|odysseus69: and now doomed for 1 down in 5D|pg||
nt|hlortz: pass or correct type bid perhaps with 5@D in reserve if needed|pg||
nt|xenya: hello Traian|pg||
nt|hedyg:  NS CC: http://tinyurl.com/67anzfx|pg||
nt|szalay: I think 2@S is likely move now|pg||
nt|hantveit:  |pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H other room|pg||
nt|roswolf: not much ammo thiugh|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi al|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Welcome all! This is the fifth segment of USA 2 against USA 1 semi final, very close match|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|rnmalik: 3@C a better spot for NS.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: South is still a junior, don't know his age exactly|pg||
nt|panosk: gm Dessy|pg||
nt|panosk: gm Pim|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: gm|pg||
nt|oosmanb: losing 1@H and 2@C should be very quick for sementa|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: action to start with :)|pg||
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nt|roswolf: well that was aggressive|pg||
nt|bobholl: east not feeling to happy now :)|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Hi everyone|pg||
pc|c8|nt|vugraphznv: West: i should have passed 2@h when he puts dummy down|pg||
nt|jbgood: so that explains the double:)|pg||
nt|panosk: it was easy that will make it easier|pg||
nt|skaftij:  3nt could have been a bit difficult to defend against, might need to overtake @C Q and lead a @S through|pg||
nt|olegario: not much can be done, they have gone a bit too high up|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: hi Olegario...welcome|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Now the defense is easy|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Hi olegario :-)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: both pairs  upside-down count & attitude|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|ady: both sides have great fits   but both limited to 9 tricks|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Never says W and laughs|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: E agrees // we newer has .. did I have one :)|pg||
nt|brgpro: hi|pg||
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pc|d4|nt|vugraphznv: declarer claiming 12 tricks -- but Versace rejects - only 11 tricks he says|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2@C shows 5+ @H , 10+|pg||
nt|odysseus69: they have screamed for club lead so no chance of anything else|pg||
nt|desinka: yes, seem like a flat board to me|pg||
nt|olegario: Hello skaftij :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this looks like a crazy double to me, getting a diamond ruff wont set 4@S|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i meant on its own, he does not know about partners spade ace|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: K@C out diamond switch and spade ace and again diamond|pg||
nt|bobholl: hi oosman |pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS upside down count & attitude   Smith vs NT|pg||
nt|rv: literally and figuratively true:)|pg||
pc|d3|nt|lml: Lindop has to rise on a spade to the jack now|pg||
nt|jbgood: NS's system card: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Australia/edgtton-gosney.pdf|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: a kib tells me he is only 19|pg||
nt|desinka: seems|pg||
nt|hlortz: i woud have thought south would bid 5@C 2 way bid make or cheap save|pg||
nt|hlortz: best lead!|pg||
nt|fabsayc: my point was fredin does not even know one club is cashing|pg||
nt|hlortz: very true|pg||
nt|hlortz: takes @H ruffs to beat 5@C|pg||
nt|roswolf: lead should sign post the correct line|pg||
nt|gracelin: surprised that Madala is not bidding at all with 5-4 major and 6 pts.  NS seems to be making 2S|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed patrick but need some imps back early i feel|pg||
nt|roswolf: maybe too much wine last night!?|pg||
nt|gracelin: sure, Geoffrey, a most difficlt task, but not hopeless.|pg||
nt|roswolf: so much of this game is momentum thus giving you a feel good factor|pg||
nt|gracelin: however, with clubs not breaking, EW can't make even 1NT.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I saw him in the bar last night, but he wasn't drinking alcohol|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N = NF   2@C=a) 10-13, (3)4+@C  b) 14-15, not 55|pg||
nt|bobholl: i don't know their ranges but 3 nt is surely too high|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|vugraphznv: 4@c showed that N has a 3-5-5-0 hand and minimum|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: N has described a weak 5530|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|ahollan1: as with Round Robin,  all matches in all events playing the same boards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so 2@H = 5@S 4@H  14-15|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry Dennis already entered those explanations|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi jack|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|gracelin: is Madala still below 18?|pg||
nt|hantveit: Hi bob|pg||
pc|d8|nt|lechcold: M-J graj¹ silnym treflem przed parti¹, WJ po partii|pg||
nt|lechcold: bêdzie trudno wybroniæ siê mniej ni¿ bez 3|pg||
nt|lml: so both north-south's are feeling pretty good about their start|pg||
pc|d6|nt|lechcold: mimo ¿e w widne karty -2 jest mo¿liwe|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: dzieñ dobry - witam w kolejnym trzecim ju¿ dniu Mistrzostw wiata...dzi odpiearmy potop szwedzki|pg||
nt|lechcold: witam Szeryfa|pg||
nt|garden2005: dzieñ dobry wszystkim :)|pg||
nt|jbgood: the EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Sweden/fredin-fallenius.pdf|pg||
nt|jbgood: 2@h was 8-11, that is why S dared to double 2@s|pg||
nt|skaftij:  In OR, Baldursson playing quietly in 1NT so first blood to Iceland|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Quarter Final & Semi Final matches  96 boards|pg||
nt|roswolf: all going swimmingly|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: ah team discipline is good then maybe just drinking the npc's brand of coffee|pg||
nt|bobholl: after a 12-14 nt they didn't probably discuss that 3@D is to play|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Somers pass was alerted|pg||
pc|d7|nt|ryskiel_: USA 2 ogra³o W³ochów...jak poradzi sobie z nimi nasza dru¿yna?|pg||
nt|xenya: this rates to go down|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he has 8 tricks and very hard to find the 9th lol|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|lechcold: na drugim stole Buras-Narkiewicz vs Hurd-Wooldridge|pg||
nt|ady: defence got of to good start  so down 1|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|lml: maybe not ... I guess he will still come to 2 diamond tricks|pg||
pc|dA|nt|kiwibridge: Brink presses on|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: can ruff 3@C in dummy |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: exiting first hand // a gameforce relay bidding here - and an Ice-relay bidding in then open room|pg||
nt|nkgupt: -1 may not be a bad score ...4@s is making i think|pg||
nt|nkgupt: by @c's can be forced only twice|pg||
nt|ady: would be easy with 7-5 to have bid higher   Netherlands might have the edge on this hand getting a plus|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes it might but is it biddable with west making a strong noise - doubt it myself but the azurri are a law unto themselves|pg||
nt|roswolf: a spec observes "kept EW out of 4@h"|pg||
nt|bobholl: Bas is feeling the pressure already :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: btw the home support for team orange is awesome judging by the messages i receive:)|pg||
nt|nkgupt:  |pg||
nt|ady: only danger for Netherlands  in OR  they some way get to 4@H|pg||
nt|bobholl: or lose to 170|pg||
nt|roswolf: great hand and this is only bd1 of the SF|pg||
nt|ahollan1: both pairs  upside-down count & attitude|pg||
pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/docdefault.asp?page=Sweden&start=c%3A%5Cinetpub%5Cwwwroot%5Cecatsbridge%5Cdocuments%5Cfiles%5CConventionCards%2F2011Veldhoven%2FBermudaBowl|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he will make make many tricks with this lead|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: wow have to ruff all 4 now|pg||
nt|xenya: and this may make|pg||
pc|c9|nt|lechcold: czeæ|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: 20 lat temu dru¿yny Polski i Islandii spotka³y siê w dalekiej Yokohamie w finale Bermuda Bowl....ma³y konkursik - kto wtedy wygra³?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Did not hear the meaning|pg||
nt|bobholl: ah ha clarification from a kibitzer pass promised 8-11|pg||
pc|c2|nt|ady: good save against 3@S|pg||
nt|xenya: N's decision to play 3N rather than 4@S with a 4-3-3-3 shape is understandable but quite unlucky|pg||
nt|runnerup: hi all|pg||
nt|xenya: hello Markku|pg||
nt|runnerup: hi vladimit|pg||
nt|xenya: note that 4@S makes despite a possible @D ruff|pg||
nt|runnerup: vladimir |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: director here|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i will explain everything at the end of the hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: director in the room with us|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Ashley advised Cornell that a card is not turn the corect way|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and the swedish boys called the director|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 6-16 board segments,  3 sessions per day|pg||
nt|hedyg:  for results and running scores: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|hedyg:  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/ for BBO-TV. Watch all  vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Open one browser window per table|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Hedy --  mobile doesn't do Voice, but the link i gave does|pg||
nt|ahollan1: open room for other BB match on live video with voice commentary from veldhoven  http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
pc|c3|nt|lechcold: pikanterii temu pojedynkowi dodaje fakt, ¿e B-N grali (graj¹?) z Hurdem i Wooldridgem przez kilka lat w tym samym zawodowym teamie|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: and there still could have been Qxx of trumos off side|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: a nice start to the match with a grand slam :)|pg||
nt|xenya: i stand corrected: 4@S does not make -- sorry |pg||
nt|gracelin: south just need to keep 2 diamonds to gold declarer to 6 tricks.|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|h4|nt|panosk: may make 6|pg||
nt|rv: easy deal to kick-off proceedings early in the morning|pg||
pc|h5|nt|kiwibridge: we could be in for a heady ride Jan :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Jorgensen playing 3@D North|pg||
nt|xenya: also a likely make, so this seems a partscore swing for Iceland|pg||
nt|bvdahl:  As Hedy posted earlier. http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/ is the link for video|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N was non-force, so Drijver 2@D either 4+ or extra values|pg||
nt|ahollan1: surpised Brink didn't bid 3@D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/docdefault.asp?page=USA+2&start=c%3A%5Cinetpub%5Cwwwroot%5Cecatsbridge%5Cdocuments%5Cfiles%5CConventionCards%2F2011Veldhoven%2FBermudaBowl|pg||
pc|hA|nt|vugraphznv: yes:)|pg||
nt|boedhy:  hello all|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and just before the match started Drijver said that I had to turn on the heat in the room|pg||
nt|boedhy:  exciting board to start with indeed|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I guess thats not needed just now :)|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: hi Ruud and yes indeed Iceland have also bid grand|pg||
nt|boedhy:  can you go wrong|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Hi Ruud|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: not as they lie, but you could have on Qxx trumps offside|pg||
nt|boedhy:  you cannt draw trumps i think|pg||
nt|boedhy:  ah iceland went down after two times trump|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and Iceland went down 1 in the closed room|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: I'll back Drijver to make|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Brink has just given his partner a glass of water |pg||
nt|boedhy:  yes he is a very good declarer|pg||
nt|boedhy:  ah so now he wants teh heat turned off...|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|jbgood: Fallenius will have no problems in winning 3 @c - S may even get squeezed for the overtrick|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|bobholl: if N believes his partners count he takes it|pg||
pc|h9|nt|kiwibridge: may need something a bit stronger Jan|pg||
nt|runnerup: good guess needed|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: director here..we will have a rulling at the end|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  gives access to voice without login|pg||
nt|nkgupt: OR in 4@d by N|pg||
pc|h3|nt|xenya: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881  for running scores|pg||
nt|ady: need a surge from China this set|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi David|pg||
nt|hantveit: it was a carefully pass from east on 2S|pg||
nt|bobholl: will loose 1 imp for holland (other room 4@D)|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
mc|12|nt|bobholl: 3@S could have been down on 1@D 3@H|pg||
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qx|o2|st||md|4SQT65HAQJ63DKJCK5,SJ32HKT7DAQ942C62,SA8H9842DT83CJ974,SK974H5D765CAQT83|sv|n|nt|gavin:  theres a descrepency between the score posted online and the one displayed here on bbo|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg||
mb|r|mb|3D|nt|gavin:  Hi Kit|pg||
nt|gavin:  Hurd - Wooldridge took a 7 imp slow play penalty|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|curtis: 1 imp mistake the other way also...not showing yet|pg||
nt|warrens:  wow, in such a close match, the penalty might make a big difference|pg||
mb|p|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg||
nt|gavin:  EW have defended in a way to allow them to get down 2|pg||
pc|cT|mc|7|nt|gavin:  this club, promotes the Ten of Hearts|pg||
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qx|c2|st||md|4SQT65HAQJ63DKJCK5,SJ32HKT7DAQ942C62,SA8H9842DT83CJ974,SK974H5D765CAQT83|sv|n|nt|lechcold: i dobry omen na pocz¹tek:)|pg||
nt|panosk: oh well|pg||
nt|ady: needed to quickly cash the A@S last hand or north coyld have been endplayed if declarer took ace and ing if clubs  and exited with a spade|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Live results at:|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 5@C always makes|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: dobrze, ¿e nie fundowa³em zadnej nagrody - wszyscy wiedz¹ ¿e wygrali wtedy "drwale z Islandii" jak to nieelegancko okre³i³ jeden z polskich oficjeli|pg||
nt|ahollan1: double partscore swing is nice start for Iceland|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: quick claim|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: not a card played|pg||
nt|roswolf: well a solid start|pg||
nt|ahollan1: gets you convention cards for all partnerships of both teams|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: in case of a tie, Sweden wins|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they actually have 127.33 imps|pg||
nt|hantveit: yes, spade ace and another dos not seem right. east can see clubs are breaking and dia K behind|pg||
nt|bobholl: was it 2@H by S ?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: including Transnational Teams that started yesterday|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: if this match ends in a tie, the Netherlands win|pg||
nt|rv: all square, 96 brd match becomes 47 brds:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: netherlands actually in the lead, but BBO doesn't show fractions of points|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they actually have79,33 imps now|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: hi|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: sorry...we are back live |pg||
nt|oosmanb: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|olegario: this should be a flat hand, nothing exciting expected|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if they score heart ruff then he has pitch for spade loser on fourth heart|pg||
nt|szalay: likely game for N_S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@C=Forcing  16+ HCP unbal, 17+ BAL|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C=11-15 HCP  a) 5@C & 4@D  b) 6+@C, not 4@H/!|pg||
nt|roswolf: sorry 2@S-3 THEREFORE 1 imp to the azurri|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wijs-muller play Tarzan Precision|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 16+ HCP|pg||
nt|rv: looks like score corrected from OR, Italy up by .66|pg||
mb|1N|nt|xenya: i wonder how it was made|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@S=natural, one round force     or   2@D Relay ??|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: if both USA 1 and USA 2 qualify for the Semi-Finals they have to play against each other|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@S suggested too    i'm too tired to think of that on my own|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: hi good afternoon everyone|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and declarer accepts 11 tricks // I dont think he should have|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: it was my fault...so you can blame me :)|pg||
nt|xenya: yet more action on this one|pg||
nt|lml: 4@H is not a terrible contract but it wont make here|pg||
nt|szalay: can they bid it?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=a) 0-7 HCP  b) 8+ HCP, 0-1 controls|pg||
nt|roswolf: e/w are low pn hcp and therefore shouldnt go too hign|pg||
nt|roswolf: *on|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and the one we all missed    a very practical 5@C|pg||
nt|oosmanb: What system is EW on, if pass showed 8-11 I doubt we'll be able to predict any auctions|pg||
nt|ahollan1: www.bridgewinners.com  also displaying running scores|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: sorry, they said down 2, later down 3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: transfer|pg||
nt|hedyg:  NS CC: http://tinyurl.com/63pg4pw|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS play 1N=14-16 throughout|pg||
mb|p|nt|stoffers: Hi all|pg||
nt|mdgraham: good afternoon all|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: hello Mike|pg||
nt|bobholl: west has 2@H raise with q's and j's|pg||
nt|hantveit: 4h is a goo contract. in practice on h 2-2 or stiff q = 52%|pg||
nt|ady: e/w will finish in 4@H   and should make in spite of 4-1 trump split|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: sorry everybody...technical reasons :(|pg||
nt|tomi2: hi|pg||
mb|d!|nt|ady: 11 tricks looks ok for e/w|pg||
nt|stoffers: So, Italy has started in great fashion (as usual), but iceland has some work to do|pg||
nt|lml: 5@C probably can't either|pg||
nt|lml: well double dummy you could draw one trump|pg||
nt|lml: and ruff the fourth spade|pg||
nt|xenya: i think both contracts are makeable, DD |pg||
nt|panosk: interesting board competition wise|pg||
nt|desinka: 2@D overcall is not that bad..|pg||
nt|skaftij:  hmm|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes i was mistaken 5@C always makes|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: Islandia okaza³ asiê wtedy czarnym koniem mistrzostw|pg||
nt|xenya: club lead and heart shift|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Hello Al, Baard, Vladimir and kibs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Baldursson hand just got better|pg||
nt|kit: Important for Levin to not sell out to 2@H with his unexpected shape.|pg||
nt|roswolf: the precision base also shpuld excel|pg||
mb|p|nt|skaftij:  2+@C any bal hand (without 5M)?|pg||
nt|bobholl: 4@H is too difficult :(|pg||
nt|roswolf: 4@S seems straightforward abd they are unlikely to get too high|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i scored the first boardmanualy|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2NT = @H raise|pg||
nt|ahollan1: a) 4@H/@S & 5+@C/@D  d) bph/4th seat maybe 1-suit, @D    [Woolsey]|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|lml: 1@H was a bid of convenience for West|pg||
nt|lechcold: nasi w 3N s¹ tutaj|pg||
nt|olegario: a double is to come soon|pg||
nt|ady: can make 12 tricks in hearts    but would be scary|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup very scary|pg||
nt|ady: sure they will be content with game|pg||
nt|hantveit: good, I have som problems with my keyboard and the letter d|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: welcome back to Veldhoven :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|rnmalik: 4@S would be off, losing 2@H+@S+@C=4 tricks for the defence.|pg||
nt|jbgood: Running Bermuda Bowl scores: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|ady: n/s with balance of strength not in auction|pg||
nt|barnets: israel in 3@C|pg||
nt|bobholl: so also with @D :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Lauria-Versace start with their version of Romex 2@D opener with East hand|pg||
nt|hedyg:  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/ for BBO-TV. Watch all  vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Open one browser window per table|pg||
nt|ahollan1: only 2@S overcall but again Texas transfer to 4@H|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: live video: www.wkbridge2011.nl/en|pg||
mb|2S|nt|lml: especially because he has a nice way to get out in 2@d|pg||
nt|stoffers: iceland needs some wp's here to hang in there: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|odysseus69: an alternative route is for East to raise NT - the xxx in clubs suggests a problem which existed|pg||
nt|lml: well we might find out about whether Martel can make 5@C in a minute|pg||
nt|lml: I think it is pretty double dummy but maybe he will find it|pg||
nt|xenya: still the bidding just  might put S |pg||
nt|lml: to make 5@C you draw one round of trump and ruff the fourth spade in dummy|pg||
nt|xenya: on the right track|pg||
nt|xenya: in 4@H|pg||
nt|desinka: now |pg||
nt|szalay: its academic|pg||
nt|rnmalik: 3 level safe for either side.|pg||
nt|mdgraham: how will declarer play trumps, one wonders |pg||
nt|ahollan1: timid is NOT Joe Grue's middle name|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Verhees 4@H South|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but mobile doesn't give access to voice|pg||
nt|rv: right sided in both rooms|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: np Traiian|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 3@d was non-forcing|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and E had an easy pass|pg||
nt|xenya: presenting declarer with a 9th trick|pg||
nt|runnerup: mean while slam -by guessing @d -like 50% -yuo finess rigth way -makes this time|pg||
nt|gracelin: sme West may cobnsider this hand suitable for 4D over 1S to show a strong 6-4.|pg||
nt|ady: 3NT   easier    but should be ok|pg||
nt|roswolf: team orange started with a 2 imp carryover from the RR|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: south might have bid double |pg||
nt|jbgood: both these pairs play transfers after 1@c .... and some more|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: West didn't alert 2@C|pg||
nt|panosk: many advocate 2@D 1st and then double if u have to|pg||
nt|desinka: yes, but with Qx@S .. in vuln..|pg||
nt|desinka: just my thought|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: or this one> http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Another straight forward auction|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wijs-muller   playing Tarzan Precision  also reached 4@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: our EW pair play  Ice-Relay  aka  Icelandic Relay|pg||
nt|barnets: trump lead will beat this |pg||
nt|kit: key which suit Levin leads.  If he leads a club, I don't think 3@H will make.  If he leads a diamond, it will make.|pg||
nt|gracelin: still others may want to try 4C Splinter|pg||
nt|roswolf: maybe but sensible bridge is the order of the day on most hands if you get some freakish distributions then comes the time for flair and imagination|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Ok just been told, only non vul, 2 openings are 0-7 at least 4 cards, pass = 8-11|pg||
nt|bobholl: luckily 2.33 just in case :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: needs a little care|pg||
nt|roswolf: you may need the 0.33:)|pg||
nt|ady: could be that declarer expecting heart length with south    |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: we are ok now...we hope :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Martel would pass with the 1-suit @D hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|ron_sc2002: hello|pg||
nt|panosk: i agree 2@D seems beter with this hand |pg||
nt|desinka: now...hard contract|pg||
nt|oosmanb: has 6 top tricks needs to develop 1 more|pg||
nt|skaftij:  hard to infer that East can have this hand from EW Convention card|pg||
nt|mdgraham: I think the % play is two finesses, but I confess I'm not sure|pg||
nt|hantveit: a boring wash on this one|pg||
nt|bobholl: they won't find their @D ruff for -2 i guess|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Muller doesn't play any hand quickly|pg||
nt|rv: I presume Italy have an excellent record in recent European and World level events, has Dutch beaten them in a long k/o match anytime in recent past?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is 4th segment of 6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 32 boards remain today to determine finalist|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: don't think these teams played many Knock Outs|pg||
pc|hA|nt|lml: but I suppose the vulnerability was a disincentive|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: does 1@h show a 4 card suit?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: yes, was the answer, normally|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: mam podpowied, ¿e w meczu gra 6 finalistów fina³u M juniorów w Australii parê lat temu - 4 Amerykanie oraz Buras i Kalita|pg||
nt|olegario: it seems he is not going to have any trouble|pg||
nt|olegario: very risky in this auction mainly being vul|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: this is not the correct board|pg||
nt|olegario: but I suspect some would have doubled in between bids|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: brd 18 on my screen not the same with brd 18 they are playing|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Well it was interesting wasn't it :-)|pg||
nt|olegario: what should be a flat 2@h may become a bit better now|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Seems OK in OR|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: director here checking|pg||
nt|skaftij:  The cards shown here bd 18 do not match the cards that the players hold|pg||
nt|skaftij:  New kibs are puzzled, and so were we|pg||
nt|barbyh: hi all|pg||
nt|barnets: dec trys toruff his long spade|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW  upside-down count & attitude   odd/even 1st discard|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ady: 2 black aces looks the only likely losers|pg||
nt|lechcold: na drugim stole grane jest 3BA - piece of cake jak to mówi¹|pg||
nt|lechcold: 4@S bêdzie trudniej wygraæ...chyba potrzebny jest impas waleta trefl...|pg||
nt|lechcold: mo¿na i bez impasu, jak mi tu czujni kibice podpowiadaj¹|pg||
nt|lechcold: i to s¹ s³uszne podpowiedzi:)|pg||
nt|ady: not that n/s have any decent contract|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Hello Barbara wlc :-)|pg||
nt|szalay: good start - for declarer|pg||
nt|gracelin: everything breaks normally here but declarer must be prepared for worse scenario.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @C lead on this auction seems misguided -- but Nystrom hoped [keyword] to win then seeing dummy have better idea of shift|pg||
nt|ady: I think will start with a club from west|pg||
nt|bobholl: other room less danger for that (n bid 1nt)|pg||
pc|h2|nt|xenya: but this, i'm almost certain, won't make|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: a 2nt bid as at the other table would have helped a lot|pg||
nt|kit: Now may be necessaryi to shift to a trump -- which is normal enough looking at that dummy.|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is a safe level|pg||
nt|bobholl: permitted strong pass ?|pg||
nt|brgpro: W has to be careful to throw his @cJ at some stage|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|lechcold: wyniki live: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|odysseus69: routine game - no issues - Bulgarians playing strong club or maybe Polish club- will find out later|pg||
nt|desinka: hard to stop in 3@D anyway with those bids|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: po eliminacjach grupowych jako przeciwników wybrali ich Anglicy, któzy parê miesiêcy wczeniej zdobyli w niezwykle imponuj¹cym stylu mistrzostwo Europy (co ko³o 21,5VP z meczu)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and he did|pg||
nt|szalay: hi all|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: hi Gyorgy :)|pg||
nt|brgpro: but declarer can always make it by playing @cQ from dummy...that is a bit double dummy...maybe not|pg||
nt|hedyg:  results and running scores: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: most pairs playing in sponsored teams in the USA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oops  48 today   3-16 board segments|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|athene: east's double obviously says "i want to bid 3@H, but i am doubling just in case you happen to have a big club stack,  so you can pass"|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Hi William...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Hi Ron|pg||
nt|athene: hi|pg||
nt|ady: siuth should try a diamond switch|pg||
nt|skaftij:  even better now|pg||
nt|szalay: otherwise its needed intrafinesse in @D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @CA also led in other room |pg||
pc|h9|nt|ron_sc2002: hi|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: South checking leads|pg||
nt|panosk: 3@S was an overbid in my opinion|pg||
nt|ady: this likely to be down 2|pg||
nt|kit: In theory declarer can recover by playing a second club cutting communications, then AK of spades dropping the queen, a second trump, and be able to ruff fourth spade.  But that ...|pg||
nt|kit: isn't so likely |pg||
nt|barnets: but now he has the communication|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now declarer can pull trump eliminate @D pitching @S and exit @S|pg||
nt|brgpro: or intra finesse|pg||
nt|brgpro: playing @c to the 7 or 8 then @cQ|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes assuming he doesnt get imaginative in trumps|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|lml: Baxter just didnt have another good bid|pg||
nt|star6ija: zdravo, Ivan :), pa dobro sam, ti kako si?|pg||
nt|rv: ok, they haven't met often enough in world level events, European National teams champs is round robin |pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|nt|star6ija: sry|pg||
nt|xenya: we shall see|pg||
nt|ady: this line may reduce to down 1|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  running scores: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|ahollan1: seems like very reasonable shot to give partner ruff while retaining @HA|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Bertheau now taking of his glasses to think|pg||
nt|ady: will likely lose 2 trump tricks and a club|pg||
nt|szalay: it will be a fast 2 off|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|star6ija: 3@s was decisive point here|pg||
nt|odysseus69: I am told Precision|pg||
nt|desinka: agree|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Actually 2 rounds of @s would secure contract|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|ahollan1: intrafinesse first documented in BOLS Tip by Brazil's Gabriel Chagas|pg||
nt|brgpro: now the chance is greater as declarer can discard a @s on the 3rd @d, ( guessing trumps) then exit with a @s|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|lml: he couldnt support diamonds at the two-level with a weak bid|pg||
nt|lml: north=south have a heart ruff here|pg||
nt|lml: 1NT was balanced showing less than a strong notrump|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: that's why it was asked, also if spade suit could be there|pg||
nt|kit: More likely to play for a diamond honor onside.|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|stoffers: Fine auction by the Italians here to the best contract, 650 and time for coffee|pg||
nt|barnets: to ruff the spade|pg||
pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: live stream and voice commentary from Jan van Cleef and PO Sundelin of one table in Italy v China is available via|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Grue wlasnie przygwozdzil sobie Q@h|pg||
nt|xenya: the winning line is outlined above|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I suppose, I don't know|pg||
nt|oosmanb: I think you can, in the Transnationals|pg||
nt|nkgupt: might hav done a lil better ducking the @c|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this difference of 12 imps is correct|pg||
pc|h8|nt|athene: 3@C would have been easy enough on a heart lead|pg||
nt|ron_sc2002: 3@H should go down but no so bad as 3@C will make|pg||
nt|josj: good morning Europe and hello all|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: hallo Jos..|pg||
nt|josj: after the excitement of the first board, we are now on firm ground again|pg||
nt|josj: hi Harold|pg||
nt|odysseus69: Hi Jos|pg||
nt|josj: hi Victor|pg||
nt|oosmanb: I would play on @S|pg||
nt|oosmanb: probably thinking of best line for 3 tricks in @S|pg||
nt|kit: which is what he is doing -- remember, he can't see all the cards as we can.|pg||
nt|gracelin: spade to J, then 2 high D and D ruff may be good.  North could ruff the 3rd D to stop overtrick|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Now a likely @H switch as interest was shown by N.|pg||
nt|lml: The auction has helped for sure |pg||
nt|hantveit: impossible to change to dia K, east might have AKQ in hearts and ace double in dia|pg||
pc|d7|nt|runnerup: that last  3nt -made -because @h switch to J /9. trick -after @c k  lead |pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm verhees in the other room played a nonoptimum line|pg||
nt|roswolf: in the club suit|pg||
nt|brgpro: if he guesses trumps he will discard a @s then exit a @s|pg||
nt|ahollan1: BOLS [liquor distributor?] sponsored competition of bridge tips in  1980    all articles online  just to a search|pg||
nt|brgpro: will make the contract 90% of the time,|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|vugraphznv: Duboin in deep thoughts..|pg||
nt|ady: clubs abd spades behaving sell for declarer|pg||
nt|ady: well|pg||
nt|ahollan1: BBO Voice Commentary available for both tables of that match|pg||
nt|lml: and even the @C10 is a hint|pg||
nt|lml: you always want a low club singleton|pg||
nt|skaftij:  home anyway|pg||
nt|ahollan1: pulling trump  only makes sense when you see all hands|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|odysseus69: wheel fell off in Closed room on first board|pg||
nt|josj: but no double so great chance missed by Israel...|pg||
nt|odysseus69: this seemingly routine board is taking a long time - declarer contemplating bad breaks but seems to be in conttrol|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: N thinking|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: South I mean|pg||
nt|odysseus69: spade jack now covers everything|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is final set of Quarter Final match|pg||
nt|ahollan1: SemiFinal matchups depend on how USA teams do|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: director just came in to tell that there will be an appeal over a board of the previous set|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if BOTH win today  then  one SemiFinal MUST be USA1 vs USA2|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: the appeal will be after this set|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: so in case of a close finish the outcome might me decided after this match|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Dennis   was it 1@SX +560??|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|panosk: N is doing his best, lesson to be learned here dont quit easily an undertrick less is a gain even in a hopeless situation|pg||
nt|psyck:  Live scores & Results: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|oosmanb: I probably wouldnt have bid again with East's hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: possibly really 13 imps|pg||
nt|ahollan1: there was a time penalty|pg||
pc|dA|nt|barnets: had he played a second club he would have made it|pg||
nt|kit: Now Levin can underlead his club (Weinstein played queen, showing the jack), and third round of trumps defeats the contract.|pg||
nt|brgpro: they must have overcalled 1@s the OR, thus declarer believes W has the points and simply played @c to the Q to go down...or misguess trumps, one of the 2|pg||
pc|d3|nt|desinka: hi all :)|pg||
nt|oosmanb: @s to 9 comingup|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this is getting really ugly|pg||
nt|hlortz: sweden saved a few imps staying out of 3n as bid in OR :)|pg||
nt|szalay: safe now|pg||
nt|nkgupt: now is down|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pg||
nt|odysseus69: would love to tell players that they dont need to waste any energy here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no, this is going 4 down also|pg||
nt|ady: going for 12|pg||
nt|mdgraham: doesn't need the club guess.|pg||
pc|c6|nt|desinka: hi Krishna|pg||
pc|c7|nt|psyck:  NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Sweden/bertheau-nystrom.pdf|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: w æwieræfinale Islandczycy odarli Anglików z nimbu mistrzowskiego demoluj¹c ich wyranie|pg||
nt|szalay: no|pg||
nt|roswolf: homer nods|pg||
pc|cT|nt|ahollan1: http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php gives access to the voice commentary without login |pg||
nt|ady: likely to be a push|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Home now, but doesnt know it just yet|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm pressure getting to all the players i think|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|psyck:  EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Israel/barel-zack.pdf|pg||
nt|panosk: hi CK wc|pg||
nt|panosk: our friend CK is on the voice commentary |pg||
nt|desinka: the result here will gonna be intresting , I think|pg||
nt|panosk: thinking of ruffing high or disc a club i think|pg||
nt|desinka: yes, same thoughts|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ady: 1 of West's spade losers can be discarded on 10@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and possibly an incorrect score on last board that is worth 1 imp|pg||
pc|s5|nt|szalay: surcoup in @D lead|pg||
nt|hantveit: now it should be -2|pg||
nt|hantveit: -1|pg||
nt|oosmanb: But I think 2@S is -1 , so I'd be -40 this deal|pg||
nt|bobholl: but partner has a sound opening (better than 8-11)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Weinstein opened south hand 2@D Flannery  [his favorite convention]   Levin 3@H North|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|hlortz: ah yes so an interesting push|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|hantveit: Do not know why no claim ?|pg||
pc|d2|nt|xenya: there's a squeeze here |pg||
nt|boedhy:  hello everybody|pg||
nt|roswolf: didnt misguess trumps|pg||
pc|dT|nt|lml: there is a diamond spade squeeze |pg||
nt|xenya: as a shrewd spectator points out|pg||
nt|lml: he does have to work out which red card to pitch from dummy|pg||
nt|ady: or south ruffs with trump trick|pg||
nt|ahollan1: credit to deWijs for planting seeds of doubt with the 2@S bid|pg||
pc|c3|nt|ryskiel_: ród Jassemów nie znosi nieobecnoci przy stole...komentuje Pawe³ Jassem - najm³odszy z rodu - Pawle - come in|pg||
nt|pawel90:  came in|pg||
nt|pawel90:  czesc|pg||
nt|desinka: now game over |pg||
nt|desinka: -2|pg||
nt|desinka: -3 probably|pg||
nt|panosk: i think -3 too|pg||
nt|desinka: 3 more trumps if back @S|pg||
nt|panosk: or 2 trumps and a club if trump|pg||
nt|kit: and it all happens just that way.|pg||
nt|bobholl: don't understand either|pg||
nt|brgpro: i still think W shd go up the J in case pd has K109|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|lml: if he goes that way|pg||
nt|ahollan1: running scores for Semi Finals and Transnational  available via http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm  or  www.bridgewinners.com|pg||
pc|sA|nt|ady: did not expect that     first bloos to Netherlands|pg||
pc|s7|nt|lml: moment of truth coming|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s2|pg||
nt|ady: blood|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg||
nt|lml: is pass a better bid than 1@H?|pg||
pc|c8|nt|lml: I don't mind bidding 1@H|pg||
nt|lml: you dont mind a heart lead|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i also think so|pg||
pc|h6|pc|d4|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|d9|pg||
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qx|o3|st||md|1ST92HKQDT63CT8753,SQJ854H32DAJ4CJ62,SK6HAJT84D8CAKQ94,SA73H9765DKQ9752C|sv|e|nt|gavin:  into a trump trick|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|vugraphznu: Bobby Levin just told that he has got the heat|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: I have been told that he is a little ill|pg||
mb|4C|mb|4S|nt|vugraphznu: and has some fever|pg||
nt|kit: 4@H can be beaten with the club ruff.  Meanwhile, 4@S is pretty good|pg||
nt|kit: I'm sure Weinstein will bid 5@C|pg||
nt|kit: And Grue might bid 5@D over that -- which should be down 1.|pg||
nt|gavin:  5@C on the king of diamonds lead becomes a very urgent defensive spot|pg||
mb|6C|nt|gavin:  west will need to overtake the @DK with the Ace to play a spade through|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: With Lall having overcalled, defense to 5@C seems easy|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Defense to 6@C even easier|pg||
nt|gavin:  Weinstien was picturing a hand like Ax AJTxx x AKxxx|pg||
nt|gavin:  where they could draw trump and discard his spade losers|pg||
nt|gavin:  on hearts|pg||
pc|sA|nt|warrens:  yes, and he was very close to right|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg||
pc|dK|nt|gavin:  Hurd-Wooldridge bought 4@H in the other room|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c3|st||md|1ST92HKQDT63CT8753,SQJ854H32DAJ4CJ62,SK6HAJT84D8CAKQ94,SA73H9765DKQ9752C|sv|e|nt|odysseus69: Bugaria on scoreboard|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: "If I havent got the 10 of @s I would have made it" says Martel|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: some discussion in Swedish, and after that sorry from Fredin|pg||
nt|panosk: hats off to Nystrom for his fighting spirit|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: better than 3N so 5 more to NL|pg||
nt|barbyh: hi Skaftij|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: it seems the hans are playing are correct.... just my boards are not correct|pg||
nt|skaftij:  his match is a great opportunity for iceland: if they win it, they will be relaxed tomorrow, because ranks 7-8 will be fairly far away, not chapping at their heels|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 19 is not correct as well|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Yes, also 19 incorrect|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i will stop for the moment... i will ask what is happening|pg||
nt|skaftij:  S: @sKJ73 @H 108743 @dA @c J104|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: we are back|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Ah that's better!|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i will claim at the end|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they are playing brd 19 now|pg||
nt|hlortz: oops 5 down lose 3|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: wtedy w reprezentacji Polski grali Balicki-¯mudziñski, Martens - Szymanowski i Klukowaki - Moszczyñski|pg||
nt|xenya: a somewhat off-shape (and off-strength?) 2N opening...|pg||
nt|xenya: led to a boring 3N -- perhaps for the best|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Muller won't play the hand nearly that quickly|pg||
nt|gracelin: didn't north ruff the 3rd D?|pg||
nt|roswolf: i would expect the chinese to push here|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Could not see, to fast, but they made 11 tricks|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i don't know about what board|pg||
nt|oosmanb: That being so, I dont think I have anything more than my 2@H already showed|pg||
nt|roswolf: first blood to team orange|pg||
nt|roswolf: big blood|pg||
nt|rv: Till recently, Bauke Muller was join top with P.O Sundelin in Roland Wald's world-wide ranking of slow players|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=2+|pg||
nt|roswolf: 2 imps to china on bd 1|pg||
nt|oosmanb: 4333|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: and with a diamond fit you may keep the opponents out of the bidding ... as here|pg||
nt|lechcold: witamy m³odzie¿|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: tylko wszed³ i od razu poprawia...trzeba by³ow poprzednim meczu poprawiaæ Tatê:)|pg||
nt|alnanda: test|pg||
nt|ady: 3NT  will be reached by n/s|pg||
nt|ady: e/w do well to play 3NT|pg||
nt|oosmanb: N might have overcalled with QJ10xx and South raised with Axx so Kxx@s also doubtful|pg||
nt|bobholl: true i wouldn't bid it too :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@C=2+|pg||
nt|brgpro: dec. will surely play @cK with E after this bidding|pg||
mb|1H|nt|lml: David Lindop is thinking how many spades|pg||
nt|desinka: hi David|pg||
nt|ahollan1: assume DBL=4+@S  but some pairs   specify 4/5|pg||
nt|roswolf: south shows where the hcp are|pg||
nt|mdgraham: tricky hand for East - we can see that 3NT is ok, but East can't|pg||
nt|bobholl: @H 44 so 3nt makes |pg||
nt|roswolf: transfer responses for the dutch>|pg||
nt|ahollan1: weak NT|pg||
mb|2D|nt|desinka: and Al|pg||
nt|ady: best spot appears to be 4@S n/s|pg||
nt|rnmalik: N debating between stayman or transfer. Stayman better imo.|pg||
nt|jbgood: 4@h down on the trump break - but N will save if they bid it?|pg||
nt|boedhy:  a very good lead from Brink played this game down with any other lead it will be close|pg||
nt|ady: I would think 9 or 10 tricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nice splinter|pg||
nt|gracelin: the opening makes it less appealling for EW to bid a slam.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=11-15 HCP, 2+@D|pg||
nt|roswolf: no|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=0-3@S|pg||
nt|brgpro: 1@s=t/o double with fewer than 4@s|pg||
nt|roswolf: transfer sjhpwing clubs?|pg||
nt|roswolf: nope|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: he is vulnerable ... but he decides on total tricks|pg||
nt|xenya: so just 2 imps on 2 wildish hands|pg||
nt|ady: typical Sementa opening in 3rd seat|pg||
nt|mdgraham: picture West with Jxx in spades for example|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ron_sc2002: N is thinking about 4@S|pg||
nt|athene: north has a pretty obvious 4@S bid, i would have said|pg||
nt|lml: we have 10 spades ... we belong at the 4 level|pg||
nt|ady: hi Dessy|pg||
nt|star6ija: we are watching the best bulgarian pair recently...for more than 20 years they are almost non-stop part of the Bulgarian National Team in the top international forums|pg||
nt|star6ija: hi, Desita :)|pg||
nt|desinka: the best one.. but lets see the contract..|pg||
nt|desinka: Hey, Momchil@h|pg||
nt|lechcold: skok Martensa bezkompromisowy, ale mo¿e wepchn¹æ EW w szlemika, którego po³o¿enie wymaga..sami widzicie czego:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but splinter will help Brink declare|pg||
nt|roswolf: light but shapely opening - yes e/w will do well to score game|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H=4-fit|pg||
nt|bobholl: other room in 4@S|pg||
nt|hantveit: yes, and 5c, but 3nt more likely|pg||
nt|hantveit: shoul make 4s too|pg||
nt|hantveit: should|pg||
nt|bobholl: threy made it indeed|pg||
nt|hantveit: 3h=single H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry  my typo   see Jack's explanation|pg||
nt|roswolf: denies 4 spades|pg||
nt|ahollan1: DBL=takeout|pg||
mb|3C!|nt|ron_sc2002: 4@H is not making but in this vul it is hard for N to let it go|pg||
nt|boedhy:  for both teams still alot at stake|pg||
nt|fabsayc: should make 5 here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i am assuming he wont risk heart ruff by playing for club ruff|pg||
nt|gracelin: Leaving to their own, 6C is a reasonable contract.|pg||
nt|gracelin: but of course, not making here.|pg||
nt|roswolf: true and making 12 tricks might be iffy|pg||
nt|gracelin: this shud be easy enough and probably 11 tricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@H=blocking|pg||
nt|brgpro: he will X again|pg||
nt|rv: Madala feels it is worth risking 2 level O/C for lead purpose|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I guess 3@C shows a better hand that could be 2nt|pg||
nt|ahollan1: alert must mean that Hurd could differentiate good/bad hands  via 3@c/2N|pg||
mb|3S|nt|vugraphznv: Versace claims 12 tricks after the lead -- they are playing quick here |pg||
nt|boedhy:  Brasil strugling to get to the first 8|pg||
nt|oosmanb: South will correct to 2@H|pg||
nt|xenya: 6@D not so bad (last hand) but may be a bit tricky due to 4-1 @D|pg||
nt|runnerup: this secvense helps to let 4 @h -make easyly -south has all cards -also 3nt|pg||
nt|xenya: tempting for N to go on|pg||
nt|ady: that really should be penaly now|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: live scores under  http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|pawel90:  nie poprawiam Rysiu :) - chyba sie nie zrozumielismy :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well that won't work|pg||
nt|skaftij:  What a shot!|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed and it does go off but not enough perhaps|pg||
nt|gracelin: the lead maybe referred to as Canape lead.  You bid your longer suit but lead your shorter one.|pg||
nt|kit: hi everybody|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: welcome back Kit :)|pg||
nt|tomi2: hi|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C is not pure Stayman -- just a relay for more info|pg||
nt|rv: at these colors, many play lite O/Cs for lead or sacrifice |pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: the bid worked out well|pg||
nt|ady: would have tht 3@S from north  6 card suit |pg||
nt|ahollan1: Italy off to amazing start winning 96 of possible 100 VPs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but 3@S gets raised without primary support|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they seem to be the in form team :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: North in the tank|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so suit not good enough for 3@S|pg||
nt|ady: lack of 3@S has made it difficult to reach the best spot|pg||
nt|star6ija: Martel has to repeat the @ss|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i was wondering if Chip Martel would bid 3N instead of 3@D|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: ok ale ja skorzysta³em z okazji by co podszczypn¹æ - jak to mam (mom?) w zwyczaju|pg||
nt|oosmanb: and they'll win it there probably|pg||
nt|fabsayc: folks, try to analyze like the players, not as double dummy :)|pg||
nt|bobholl: 6NT is on but kind of roland slam :) 20% or so|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: great bid by Wooldridge|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: north-south are too high|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2nt 20-22|pg||
nt|ahollan1: a bit unlucky  but  Drijver expected better hand from Brink -- and certainly not @HA|pg||
nt|barnets: playing 4@S in open|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Just been given EW CC by a well informed kibitzer: ty Johan|pg||
nt|roswolf: inv raise coming|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg||
nt|ady: that mey sound like a cu  agreeing diamonds|pg||
nt|star6ija: now it is ok...repeating them immediately would have shown more solid colour|pg||
nt|kit: I don't think so -- in general, 4 of a previously bid major is offer to play I believe.|pg||
nt|ady: rather than trying to show 6 card suit not shown earlier|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: now South in the tank|pg||
nt|kit: But if Stansby is thinking, then there may be some doubt|pg||
nt|desinka: yes, agree.. but now Martel's p may think abt @ds fit..|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kit - do you know how Martel-Stansby treat 4th suit after jump shift?|pg||
nt|star6ija: 5@s is still safe double dummy I think|pg||
nt|kit: no I don't, Al|pg||
nt|panosk: looks it wont make|pg||
nt|boedhy:  The Netherlands offcourse the higher the better because then you get to pick your opps|pg||
nt|boedhy:  they end up in their best fit with good controled bidding it seems. |pg||
nt|andersk: Hi |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Hi Anders|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Hi Anders|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 1nt 14-16|pg||
nt|kamyk: po kontrze na staymana popularne ustalenie, to PAS - nie trzymam trefli; Islandczycy widaæ graj¹ odwrotnie|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: szukam w archiwach danych z meczu w Yokohamie - zwraca mi siê bowiem uwagê, ¿e nie Klukowski Moszczyñski a Gawry Lasocki byli trzecia par¹ i teraz sobie przypomnia³em ¿e tak ...|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: w³asnie by³o|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Muller made 4@S on  2|pg||
nt|ady: this could be very expensive   spade lead and diamond through|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is not to be fancied|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3rd @S enouraging because declarer can duck twice|pg||
nt|ahollan1: very creative|pg||
pc|dK|nt|boedhy:  as we can see 4@h is close tho...|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and in natural bidding you can end in @h and with 16 opposite 8 think many will be in game...|pg||
nt|boedhy:  but a @h lead against 4@h is killing too|pg||
nt|alnanda: yes 4@h is posible altough hard way to make|pg||
nt|ady: that lead wont upset declarer    but any lead likely to be good for south  except maybe a low spade|pg||
nt|andersk: Hi Oosman, Jan:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but defense should prevail    overtake  @SQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: then @C ruff|pg||
pc|d3|nt|lml: of course a double by north-south would have worked well but that was hard to do|pg||
nt|ady: tht there may be a problem|pg||
nt|lechcold: decyzja Jassema ca³kowicie zrozumia³a|pg||
nt|lechcold: bêdzie bardzo tanio|pg||
nt|lechcold: a wist @D2 to hazard straszliwy|pg||
nt|lml: bit of action here.|pg||
nt|oosmanb: in Usa 2 vs Bulgaria board 2.. 1NT is being played by West!|pg||
nt|andersk: Looks like down, even if he gets the sp right! |pg||
nt|andersk: EW only has to avoid dummy to get entry to the 3rd and 4th sp|pg||
nt|xenya: had N chosen to advance more slowly (5@C?), they might have stopped in 5 |pg||
nt|roswolf: well the usual game try|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this won't make either|pg||
nt|brgpro: E still needs to lead @h 8 or 9, otherwise the suit is blocked|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Hedy --- you're very muffled|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Andy and Peter coming thru well  but not Hedy|pg||
nt|rv: 8 tricks is possibly limit here|pg||
pc|dA|nt|athene: i am not sure what a double of 4@S would have been, but maybe similar to the double of 3@c earlier, saying "i want to bid on"|pg||
nt|boedhy:  think with making 3@d is a good result|pg||
nt|ady: will be enough on best defence|pg||
nt|roswolf: now the spade switch|pg||
nt|ady: Semenra will do better not to cover the high spades|pg||
nt|ady: diamond from west  devasting   3 rounds of trumps|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes a big opportunity for china|pg||
nt|ady: could be around down 5|pg||
nt|roswolf: the bell tolls for someone|pg||
nt|roswolf: maybe east is putting the chilren to bed before commencing the slaughter|pg||
nt|roswolf: children|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Shi had the @SQ in his hand, put it  back|pg||
nt|ady: low spade from east best    but cant expect that|pg||
nt|roswolf: be bold mon brave|pg||
nt|ady: and lots of money to cover this|pg||
nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
nt|brgpro: @h5 will block the suit|pg||
nt|roswolf: not difficult:)|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|roswolf: hooray|pg||
nt|ady: needs to play low|pg||
nt|roswolf: bid game etc|pg||
nt|ady: this may well be down1|pg||
nt|nkgupt: 3nt=COG it seems|pg||
nt|ahollan1: at least i don't think that is too double dummy|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: the bidding and dummy makes it much clear indeed|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|pawel90:  my tu gadu-gadu, a tu 3BA, na oko swoje|pg||
nt|jbgood: pass is an often underestimated bid...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I'm told NS play mini 1N opening 1st and 2nd seat fav|pg||
nt|panosk: or maybe it will|pg||
nt|panosk: ?|pg||
nt|panosk: NS need to get a heart as well to defeat|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: wow...sweden bid and made 6d|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: after 2 boards 22-0|pg||
nt|rv: Madala's risky O/C has paid dividends|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we have a noted columnist watching  so this could be good one for writeup|pg||
pc|sK|nt|kit: Apparently they were not on the same wavelength|pg||
nt|ady: diamond will be from east   but likely|pg||
nt|ady: bad|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: Klukowski Moszczyñski grali w z³otej dru¿ynie z Turku 1989|pg||
nt|barnets: after 1N opener by south|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: new leder after this ?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: leader|pg||
nt|roswolf: sementa now regrets opening|pg||
nt|bobholl: another imp for angelini i guess|pg||
nt|hantveit: even if NS is not cashing out, this will probably end with 9 and 1 imps|pg||
nt|ahollan1: especially in suit bid & raised   lead high with no honor|pg||
pc|sA|nt|lml: anybody see anyway to double 4@S?|pg||
nt|lechcold: na drugim stole 4@Sx|pg||
nt|ady: to salvage something|pg||
nt|roswolf: now small spade!?|pg||
nt|ady: low spade now not likely to cost|pg||
nt|ady: west might read the situation if Sementa plays low|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Shi still thinking, alle the cards still open|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Sementa calling director|pg||
nt|roswolf: bd2 flat|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe this pair does allow raise on 3   |pg||
nt|brgpro: just felt funny to see the suit combination though|pg||
nt|ahollan1: psychology in play here    i never know whether better to cover or duck in this situation|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|odysseus69: as long as defence does not play a 4th heart this may go down|pg||
nt|jbgood: 9-12, yes|pg||
nt|bobholl: won't make i fear :(|pg||
nt|roswolf: all hope is not lost yet|pg||
nt|brgpro: .|pg||
nt|ahollan1: probably cover to make it unclear which minor Stansby should play next|pg||
pc|s7|nt|star6ija: assuming that 3@cs establishes GF, 3@h maybe sounds more or less natural|pg||
nt|pawel90:  4@s chyba bez trzech, ale trzeba kiera trafiÄ|pg||
nt|lechcold: raczej bez 4 na promocji @S9, ale obrona zb³¹dzi³a|pg||
nt|antoniz: stoj¹cy As kier to 9-ta lewa|pg||
nt|lechcold: jest szansa na -500 i 3 impy zysku|pg||
nt|xenya: it would seem 4@C is about as good as 4@S here|pg||
nt|lml: well 4@S has one big advantage|pg||
nt|xenya: right :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and 4@c has another - @d lead gives 2 tricks|pg||
nt|rv: if Muller had passed 2@s double, could have collected 300|pg||
nt|rv: now -100|pg||
nt|ahollan1: winning 2nd @S  maybe prevents Madala from signalling @D entry|pg||
pc|s9|nt|ron_sc2002: nice play|pg||
nt|lml: no peeking!|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they know ... now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Stefanov in 4@S North|pg||
nt|ady: North giving preference on 4 and 2 of diamonds instead of showing a likely 6 card suit seems where it went wrong|pg||
nt|star6ija: I like Martel's way of bidding|pg||
nt|stoffers: Loosing a couple of diamonds and maybe one spade here, more coffee :)|pg||
nt|rnmalik: 9 tricks and 5 imps.|pg||
nt|barnets: 4@S not unreasonable contract especially if @DA onside|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: South thinking...he placed the cards on the table and deep in thought|pg||
nt|roswolf: a very similar auction to the same poor contract|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|lml: so far canada has been the aggressor and it has worked|pg||
nt|brgpro: hi and hoi|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|d4|nt|kit: yes, certainly Martel could have bid 3@S rather than 3@D, but they should have survived.|pg||
nt|oosmanb: They're playing "Modified Dutch doubleton"|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Versace  2@H West|pg||
nt|rv: sry -2|pg||
nt|tez: hi all|pg||
nt|tez: good start for Ýtaly|pg||
nt|rv: Hi Tez,gm|pg||
pc|h4|nt|brgpro: well, will 4@c be forcing in this auction?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: vanProoijen-Verhees play a very unusual system  so when auctions look similar they're usually with very different inferences|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
nt|lml: they stole the contract on board 2 in 2@D|pg||
nt|ady: at least 10 tricks now|pg||
nt|roswolf: what is his complaint - too slow?|pg||
nt|roswolf: the hollanders have a great tradition of winning against the odds|pg||
nt|roswolf: also their squad system and support for the national team deserve some laurels|pg||
pc|h8|nt|xenya: passive trump lead looks best -- @CQ is imaginative  |pg||
nt|hantveit: did he really throug clubs?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Yes|pg||
pc|h5|nt|lml: and here they pushed north-south too high|pg||
nt|pawel90:  mozliwe, Å¼e Piotr bÄdzie prÃ³bowaÅ w koÅcÃ³wce wpuÅciÄ S-a na pika...|pg||
nt|antoniz: puszczaj¹c trefla,wiemy,¿e wpust nic nie daje|pg||
nt|pawel90:  to prawda (jak as kier jest przy treflach to i tak przegrywamy)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other tables visible without login via http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
nt|brgpro: they play canape opening with str. @c|pg||
nt|brgpro: similar system as Ekblad|pg||
nt|roswolf: i am told Arnolds led the H5 in Venice Cup!:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: they got it from Russ Ekeblad but have made some adjustments|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Ultimate Canape|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
nt|nkgupt: good result for italy OR|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ady: 4@Sater  was ambigious for me|pg||
nt|antoniz: brawo Piotr|pg||
nt|hantveit: well, still makes|pg||
nt|hantveit: south must guard dia and spade fourth|pg||
nt|brgpro: yes they did, so i was told|pg||
pc|h3|nt|ady: later|pg||
nt|antoniz: As pik,Król trefl i wszystko jasne|pg||
nt|bobholl: S squeezed|pg||
nt|bobholl: surely a lot modified :)|pg||
nt|brgpro: by Verhees|pg||
pc|hA|nt|rnmalik: making 8 tricks.|pg||
nt|ady: some tricks going to bed|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|roswolf: SAME AUCTION IN THE OTHER ROOM EFFECTIVELY - I WAS MISINFORMED:(|pg||
nt|brgpro: well, i wonder why madala dropped doubleton Q offside|pg||
nt|brgpro: but he had no entry to dummy again...to play a @h to the J|pg||
mc|10|nt|lechcold: na drugim stole 6@HX, czekamy na wist|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: to jak jestemy przy wspomnieniach mo¿e kto pamiêta jak¹óznic¹ wygra³a fina³owy mecz Islandia w Yokohamie? dopuszczalna pomy³ka 5 VP|pg||
nt|hantveit: but after that play before, will he make it?|pg||
nt|hantveit: can rund dia T also.|pg||
nt|roswolf: i am told Cronier too lead the @H%|pg||
nt|ahollan1: definitely a defense for partneships to discuss|pg||
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qx|o4|st||md|2SKJ2HQ542D853CKQ7,SAQ873HK83DAQT9C6,S9HT97DJ72CAJ9432,ST654HAJ6DK64CT85|sv|b|nt|gavin:  so a quick 10 imps , along with 6 from the flannery board on board 2|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H!|nt|gavin:  4H making was an amazing result for the north south side|pg||
nt|warrens:  Grue upgraded W to a strong club hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|p|nt|gavin:  ahh excuse me , that contract is still in jeopardy of a club ruff|pg||
nt|warrens:  maybe I shouldn't be surprised, but I am.  Gavin, 1H=GF, 8-11?|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: TD has just entered the room with some pills from Levins wife|pg||
nt|gavin:  Yes 1@H 8-11 denies 5@S|pg||
nt|gavin:  8-11 any hand without 5@S|pg||
nt|gavin:  1@S natural|pg||
mb|3C!|an|8-9 hcp 4!ss|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: 4@S is a good contract due to the nice mesh in clubs -- 3 small opposite the stiff.  If Lall's king of diamonds were king of clubs, 4@S would be a bad contract.|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|warrens:  this can make 5 with a @H discarded on the last @D|pg||
nt|gavin:  Grue has one sure club loser here, no diamonds, perhaps 1@H, I expect him to cash the Ace of spades|pg||
nt|gavin:  before going to dummy's king to play a spade towards the queen|pg||
nt|gavin:  he doesnt mind losing 1 spade trick|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
nt|gavin:  but cannot afford to lose 2 tricks|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d2|nt|gavin:  and the ace protects him against singleton king with north|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s8|nt|gavin:  a standard "safety play"|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|gavin:  eventually the 13th diamond will be used to discard a heart from dummy|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
nt|gavin:  Levin played the club deuce, discouraging|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s7|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg||
nt|gavin:  because he has 97 of hearts|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|gavin:  and wanted a heart through|pg||
pc|c9|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dJ|nt|gavin:  nothing mattered, |pg||
pc|d6|pc|d8|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2SKJ2HQ542D853CKQ7,SAQ873HK83DAQT9C6,S9HT97DJ72CAJ9432,ST654HAJ6DK64CT85|sv|b|nt|lml: North has a cute hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 6 @c .....|pg||
nt|lml: West will likely open a weak 2 in spades|pg||
nt|udo: good morning|pg||
nt|lechcold: 4@Sx skoñczy³o siê bez dwóch|pg||
nt|odysseus69: they managed same next door-well done both|pg||
nt|lml: :)|pg||
nt|lml: USA1 is winning the breakage so far|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: nastêpna 2|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: 95,98,32,3|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: 7|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: this is the last round of the round robin matches|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: from tomorrow we start quarter finals///semis and so on|pg||
nt|ahollan1: tough after 4@C to decide between science and blast|pg||
nt|bigtrain: hi|pg||
nt|hantveit: Looks like angelini got a tilt there. Boye is a good partner in thouse situations, I am sure he backs up his partner not. |pg||
nt|hantveit: now|pg||
nt|oosmanb: However they have declared that they frequently bid 3 card @H/@S after 1@c/1@D opening|pg||
nt|ahollan1: had they all raised @H?|pg||
nt|roswolf: not sure|pg||
nt|brgpro: declarer, knowing the suit breaks 6-3 will surely win the first @h with some hope.....( i mean after @h5 lead)...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: would Martel raise with @SAx?   if so then return @S7|pg||
mb|1S|nt|athene: i would open 2@C with east's hand for sure|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if not then probably should return @S3|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: then south might try 3@C maybe|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Hi Udo and wlc :)|pg||
nt|udo: i am at work, but will try to comment sometimes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N would be 12-14|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2nt= 20-22|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=2+@D  a) unbal 10-15 HCP  b) Bal 11-13|pg||
nt|roswolf: more delights for the vampires perhaps|pg||
nt|roswolf: 13-15 nt|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H=11-15 HCP  maybe 5@H 5@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H=5-10 HCP, (5)6@H|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ron_sc2002: E hand is 3 loosers|pg||
nt|lml: he decided his spades were too weak for that|pg||
nt|udo: 3@D = inverted,,weak raise with good support,,quite common agreement nowadays|pg||
nt|jbgood: S contemplating some slam invite? |pg||
nt|boedhy:  guys are playing very fast :)|pg||
nt|gracelin: now 4S for EW with the ood H guess.  Will be easy if south overcalls or doubles.|pg||
nt|gracelin: good|pg||
nt|ahollan1: live video and voice commentary from onsite vugraph room http://www.wkbridge2011.com/en/live|pg||
nt|hantveit: when partner is doing something increddible bad, the best partners is backing him up, the worst are yelling.|pg||
nt|bobholl: they have a (very) good pair on the other table|pg||
nt|bobholl: 6@H a better slam than 6@S|pg||
nt|hantveit: I am not familiar with NSs system, but in natural 2D is a goo bid on souths han|pg||
nt|hantveit: if partner bids 3D, you say 3S as force, partner can insist on 4D with 4+ dia|pg||
nt|bobholl: agree completely|pg||
nt|hantveit: a@h|pg||
nt|hantveit: great, thank you, it only took me 6 years to learn that|pg||
nt|hantveit: operator, please tell them to not rush|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Sorry, the director came, Angelini had 14 cards|pg||
nt|szalay: tempting cards to (2) highû|pg||
nt|brgpro: the miracle does happen!|pg||
nt|rv: all players have mental fatigue to various degrees, this is 11th successive day|pg||
nt|rv: that is reflecting in play|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: what bid do you like by south?|pg||
nt|barnets: needs a spade lead here to set 3N e/w|pg||
nt|pbundy: hi everyone :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this big club 1@D bid is NEVER  54 minors|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@S semi-constructive|pg||
mb|4S|nt|athene: 5@C perhaps|pg||
nt|ron_sc2002: 4@S can go down while 4@H is always making|pg||
nt|athene: north must suspect that east has hearts, so why not give him a bit of a problem?|pg||
nt|ron_sc2002: yes 5@C is a good save|pg||
nt|ron_sc2002: west's pass showing some values I think|pg||
nt|lml: a matter of style|pg||
nt|athene: hello good morning everyone|pg||
nt|udo: hello|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Hi all|pg||
nt|xenya: still 2-0 -- i think it will be a record across the matches on those boards|pg||
nt|lml: I guess double makes sense with four spades and a not great club suit|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Italy-Netherlands 0-25 on the same 2 boards|pg||
nt|boedhy:  will end in 4@h making probably|pg||
nt|bt: grue and lall doing their best to give up small imps at the other table, all of us swedes are grateful|pg||
nt|bt: and hi everyone|pg||
nt|runnerup: 5 @s still good against 5 @h here -so little battle |pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@S=4-fit, 11-13|pg||
nt|bobholl: strange 8-11 and strange 12-14 nt :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|kemperg: hi all|pg||
nt|lechcold: tym razem 1@C Wujotowy|pg||
nt|boedhy:  plus 1 even |pg||
nt|ady: Bulgaria got 6 immps on hand 1   losing 50 in 4 diamonds   5@D doubled in OR   300|pg||
nt|ady: obvious down 1|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Iceland stops in 5@S on  3|pg||
nt|ady: 6@H might fail|pg||
nt|roswolf: wow going for slam|pg||
nt|ady: would be unlucky|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Can it be 10-14 NT?|pg||
nt|oosmanb: They play multi when Vul|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: I am not crazy about 3NT even if it shows good clubs and a spade stopper|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 6 @s + 3 @h are a risk to open 2@s weak|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: you might miss the @h fit|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 3nt was not alerted|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C=limit raise or better   2N=strong NT|pg||
nt|star6ija: it is maybe inverted minor and 2N showing 15-17?|pg||
nt|alnanda: there is no difficulty reaching 4@h, i think..|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: noooo Jan is catching up after the tech problems|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: These guys are good, and VERY FAST |pg||
nt|ryskiel_: najbli¿szy prawdy by³ maciej12 poda³ 45imp...wynik by³ 415-376|pg||
nt|runnerup: normal thimg to do is ofcause bid 4 @s -if they know that to be ok -and let ns deside after that -so maybe 5 @h =|pg||
nt|barnets: 3@D israel in open|pg||
nt|ady: but 3-0 heart split and needing a club ruff may be too much|pg||
nt|bobholl: luckily it was NV :)|pg||
nt|brgpro: yes that could be the reason, he could discard a @D on the 4th @h if E had any|pg||
nt|kit: 6@S will depend on the opening lead here|pg||
nt|kit: Levin with a difficult rebid chooses to hedge with 2@D, as neither 2@H nor 3@H feels right.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C=not 4/5@S  a) any (mild) INV, no fit  b) to play 2@D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D non-force|pg||
nt|brgpro: where is Rob when we need him?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i have notes too :)|pg||
nt|brgpro: the inventor of the Tazan prec. system|pg||
nt|roswolf: east has trust in his pard's dummy play!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Tarzan reference because  wijs-muller sounds like name of man who played Tarzan in the movies   Johnny Weissmuller|pg||
nt|roswolf: tough reopening positon for south basicall opps could have anything|pg||
nt|brgpro: if Duboin doubles this....the best for N is to pass...|pg||
nt|roswolf: dbl seems flexible|pg||
nt|brgpro: although i believe he will just shrug and pass|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Lauria 1N East|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@S game try|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: even without being a convention it suggests that kind of hand|pg||
nt|xenya: more realistic|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: West dbls 3@D now, but director tells them to wait for safety|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Well, we will find ou later how 3nT was made erhaps duck a @d|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome Lars|pg||
nt|hantveit: so, a penalty for ew.|pg||
nt|roswolf: remember we can see ALL the cards the players only 26|pg||
nt|roswolf: when fixed stay fixed|pg||
nt|brgpro: 1NT wont be a good moment to play in...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: bid game try to make it     sorry  very old joke|pg||
pc|h9|nt|athene: south just hopes his partner doesn't do anything uncooperative, like bidding clubs :)|pg||
nt|lechcold: 1N 18-20|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 3D is a spade raise- exactly what this promises varies from partnership to partnership|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: East doesn't accept|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: so bidding is as displayed, only North doesn't see it yet|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Pushed to North now|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: North has to decide the final contract now|pg||
nt|oosmanb: does 4@H need @s guess or no?|pg||
nt|skaftij:  1H showing @ss|pg||
nt|skaftij:  In OR, Wijs did not enter with @h bid on bd3, allowing Einarsson to support with 2@s iso 4@s|pg||
nt|bobholl: oh oh|pg||
nt|brgpro: assume E has only 2@d|pg||
nt|ahollan1: many pairs use transfers over the DBL   showing EITHER  the suit OR  fit with lead-director|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Rusinow leads down to 9 showing T|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ron_sc2002: board 19 same play for a push|pg||
nt|lml: nice bid by south ... well done ...|pg||
nt|athene: but inverted raises tend to have both minors|pg||
nt|udo: yes. so X looks ok,,,,pass is also dangerous|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and tends to be bad hand for slam|pg||
nt|stoffers: some might bid 2@d on Duboins hand here, me included. He may regret it now when partner leads clubs|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Same lead in the OR.|pg||
nt|wild card: hi|pg||
nt|wild card: this looks like a makebale contract|pg||
nt|wild card: *makeable|pg||
nt|lml: this may work out well for Israel|pg||
nt|lml: pretty aggressive bidding by this team so far|pg||
nt|xenya: and how|pg||
nt|lml: in the OR Weinstein overcalled 2@C instead of doubling|pg||
nt|xenya: i predict some 14 imps to Israel on this one|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: MArtel has found a book|pg||
nt|lml: its a style thing but the club suit looks pretty weak to me|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and has started reading in it|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Director call|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: West didn't pass, but the tray wa spushed to the North side already|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and North bid already and SW saw it when the tray was pulled back|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Director walked away, i Didn't hear his ruling..|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Tray is at WestSouth side now|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Think director went to get some help|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2nd director here: they said it's more complicated|pg||
nt|jbgood: in the meantime i go for a coffee|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Norths 3@S is treated is as a bid of turn|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: without screens|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: East can accept 3@S or let the tray go back to Fredin|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: East asking what the total consequences ar|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: if west passes, north bids 3@s and auction proceeds as normal|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: if west doesn't pass, then if north bid @S's (at any lvl) south has to pass 1 round|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: If west doesn't pass and North bids something else than @S south should pass the rest of the auction|pg||
nt|andersk: interesting 4@H here|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: same here :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: china lost 3 imps on bd17 2@S-1 by the chinese south in the other room|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer is unlikely to misguess H position now.|pg||
nt|gracelin: south also has a tough lead.  3 Aces and a singleton trump, all unappealling|pg||
nt|ahollan1: it is either balanced  or   5minor 4Major|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|athene: 4@C isn't giving east any problem|pg||
nt|lml: he liked the stiff spade and the club fit|pg||
nt|lml: so will south cuebid the @HK?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@S=shortness|pg||
nt|boedhy:  so were back now..|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: And we are back live now|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and first imps for iceland|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Board 18 was a 4@c down 2 in N|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: well done Jan and thanks|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and a 4@s making on board 19|pg||
nt|boedhy:  yes well done Jan|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Now we are LIVE again - and 2nt showed a 3 or 4 card @s support|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: nice to see some totally natural bidding :)|pg||
nt|xenya: so Sweden are off to a flying start in this match -- very important for them  as they are currently 9th, closely followed by Australia and Japan |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Ashley in the tank now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but Muller did bid @H:)|pg||
nt|bvdahl:  5 @s is not easy to make without a @c lead|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes bidding defensive does have downsides too|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer needs to use his high trump to play the red suit.  Club can be led from either hand.  So better win and start a red suit.|pg||
nt|hantveit: why not 3!AH |pg||
nt|bobholl: the  1nt is just to play opposite 8-11 so not well defined|pg||
nt|oosmanb: CC says Nonvul TP if pd passed|pg||
nt|oosmanb: So he wants to play 1NT. thats it.|pg||
nt|bobholl: he 'd better lead a @H otherwise made |pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|boedhy:  think this will go down so 8 imps or so to iceland|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: and thanks 350 specs for hanging in there with us :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: a great start for the "hometeam" |pg||
nt|boedhy:  yes and an important match it is. |pg||
nt|jbennet: An x with void hearts dangerous.|pg||
nt|pbundy: a possibility that the extreme trump break may give declarer a problem here - IF they do indeed declare in 3@H|pg||
nt|hantveit: 3 aIh|pg||
nt|hantveit: see, I lost it again|pg||
nt|bobholl: 3@H would have been much better|pg||
nt|hantveit: 3a@h|pg||
nt|bobholl: indeed|pg||
nt|kit: sorry, forgot about bad spade split -- so slam won't be making anyway -- or will it -- might be a trump coup.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Lew Mathe:  NEVER lead trump  ....  unless it is right|pg||
nt|ahollan1: rusinow =  lead 2nd of touching honors|pg||
pc|sA|nt|star6ija: Trendafilov will attack hearts now|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he is asking questions at moment|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW lead 2nd/4th against suit and nt     upside down signals focusing on count|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: so we have to wait and see|pg||
nt|ady: diamonds 3-2  and hearts 4-4   this should roll home|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Lets say, @D to the Ace, small @D ruff, small @S to the Ace and another @D ruff, @S to J and @D ruff and @SK. Do we get to 10 tricks?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I cant see the title of it|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: South annoyed|pg||
nt|boedhy:  there is.....|pg||
nt|boedhy:  strange bidding form south 2@c round forcing|pg||
nt|hantveit: I am slow, but I think I got it now|pg||
nt|hantveit: @C|pg||
nt|roswolf: ah result merchant was he!?|pg||
pc|s9|nt|vugraphznv: bulgaria scored 10 on the slam hand|pg||
nt|jbgood: he would rather have seen a redouble:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: South to toilet now|pg||
nt|bt: thanks martin|pg||
nt|hlortz: hello Lars yes sweden has picked up a few so far|pg||
nt|xenya: 8 teams qualify for the quarterfinals -- and this is the last round|pg||
nt|ahollan1: similiar situation here|pg||
nt|kit: scary stop when vul 3NT is so close.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: after Levin put the cards down...North said YOU HAVE SOMETHING :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: true|pg||
nt|ady: have stayed out    have done well   may get a swing|pg||
nt|ady: 6@H  well with the odds|pg||
nt|gracelin: when north can only contribute S6 on first trick, south shud know declarer's trumps are all high.|pg||
nt|grebrof: maybe Angelini sponsored them as well|pg||
pc|s4|nt|odysseus69: here the KJ of clubs are waste paper- |pg||
nt|boedhy:  if you end up 4th you will get the best team form 5-8 as opponent for instance USA1|pg||
nt|bt: so on the pedestrian heart lead decl has 8 tricks, now he has 9|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: another potential good board for sweden|pg||
nt|runnerup: this cant be bad for Sweden either|pg||
nt|barnets: exact same bidding in open room|pg||
nt|bobholl: sry not made but you never can tell|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Is @H lead really findable?|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|antoniz: blisko szczêcia|pg||
nt|lechcold: Lall musia³ to co musia³:)|pg||
nt|lechcold: Grue wchodz¹c 2@D bez punktów zdeterminowa³ przebieg rozdania|pg||
nt|antoniz: wejcie 2karo to pe³na dezinformacja co do si³y|pg||
nt|lechcold: 3N wygl¹da na bez jednej|pg||
nt|pawel90:  sam nie wiem. Co ma zrobiÄ S, po wziÄciu na asa trefl?|pg||
nt|antoniz: najpierw musi pucic kiera|pg||
nt|pawel90:  a potem pik do asa i pik|pg||
nt|antoniz: ³atwo zb³¹dziæ|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: ³atwo jest nam...oni na obu osiach maj¹ nielekko, no mo¿e z wyj¹tkiem Kality...da³ harcersk¹ kontrê i siedzi zadowolony|pg||
nt|andersk: @C lead, then If he hooks a @D switch for -1|pg||
nt|oosmanb: interesting on a @c lead|pg||
nt|andersk: maybe cullin leads @H|pg||
nt|xenya: that's right |pg||
nt|gracelin: thoug declarer has only 3 obvious loser, he might not have 10 trick since he cannt ruff the 4th D.  North will overruff.|pg||
nt|jbennet: but 3 sP is a choice|pg||
nt|brgpro: i hope he was right each time he led one!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: most know the name Mathe because of conventional overcall of strong @C  where DBL=majors NT=minors|pg||
pc|dT|nt|athene: i would have overcalled 1@H with the north hand but pass is ok if your partner is there for you with a double|pg||
nt|kemperg: the only lossing line?|pg||
nt|wild card: yes|pg||
nt|wild card: but now he's down|pg||
nt|jbennet: which is the one recommended.|pg||
nt|kit: All the warning signs are out there -- double of 4@D, no 4@H Q by partner.  Looks like Levin should find the pass.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: thinking...he looks in agony lol|pg||
nt|szalay: Kit we can say TEMPTING signs as well|pg||
nt|szalay: good support, RDBL over DBL|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he placed the cards on the table|pg||
nt|szalay: what was EXACT meaning of 3@H?|pg||
nt|rv: E-W are close to making 4@h, N-S make 9 tricks in 3n, interesting brd here|pg||
pc|d2|nt|stoffers: no problem...sementa found a @d nomather what :)|pg||
nt|antoniz: witam serdecznie|pg||
nt|lechcold: 4@H wychodzi...obrona mo¿e jedynie utrudniæ puszczaj¹c karo|pg||
nt|lechcold: witam|pg||
nt|lechcold: z uwagi na ograniczon¹ liczbê dojæ do sto³u, trzeba jednak rozegraæ bardzo trafnie|pg||
nt|garden2005: czesc Antoni|pg||
nt|lechcold: no nie wiem czy taki zadowolony:)|pg||
nt|ady: could make if hearts with south    9 tricks available    but defence have 5|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they are very friendly at the table|pg||
nt|oosmanb: can switch though, to kill dummy's entry, THAT is findable|pg||
nt|bobholl: but does he suspect a@s single |pg||
nt|oosmanb: Can be pretty certain since with dblton he mightve run from dbl?|pg||
nt|oosmanb: however |pg||
nt|oosmanb: what if pd has AJxx|pg||
nt|oosmanb: @D|pg||
nt|bobholl: he can have that off course :)|pg||
nt|bobholl: but a @D a@H and 7 @S = C|pg||
pc|dK|nt|lml: wow ... well done north south|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or was it USA lost 10|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: lol|pg||
nt|yuval10: if you say the name it'd probably turn into a best-seller in a moment :)|pg||
nt|bt: grue had a brain melt in 6@C doubled and lall gave up a second spade finesse, thanks|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: sorry - zwyciêzc¹ konkursu by³ marian 12 anie maciej12|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and passed|pg||
nt|brgpro: a quiet 1 down here...but 1NT will be interesting, |pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|andersk: no chanse to set now|pg||
nt|oosmanb: ? If pd had J@D along with A. then top 4@D and 2@C tricks?|pg||
nt|bobholl: south took a profitable gamble :)|pg||
nt|oosmanb: switch K@H and J@d|pg||
nt|kit: I would have to check, but looking at Weinstein's hand I imagine it is a forcing 3@S call.|pg||
pc|s5|nt|alnanda: i think 2@c is drury|pg||
nt|bobholl: may be 2@H only showed a minimum but it's strange anyway|pg||
nt|hantveit: yes, but it is hard when we do not know the system. But they should be able to find a 4-4 fit in @H|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Angelini found the 13th card on the floor from last game, maybe that is why he threw away the clubs|pg||
nt|oosmanb: although that doesnt even leave 8-11 with East|pg||
nt|rv: this should drift 1 down|pg||
nt|rv: Italy likely to pick-up another 10 IMPs on brd 19|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ron_sc2002: agree.. partner probably wont bid again so better to make pressure on E and bid directly 5@C|pg||
nt|fabsayc: on heart lead he makes also|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Muller won't go down quickly|pg||
pc|s7|nt|lml: would all of you have got to 6@C?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: tricky too bid|pg||
nt|lml: it sure is|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: now the live scores is down so hope we get that back soon|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm should be made ok i think|pg||
nt|gracelin: srry, I a, wrong.  Declarer does have 10 tricks.  He can pitach the 4th D on a good club|pg||
nt|mdgraham: rehi sry lost connx|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Best lead is @d probably|pg||
nt|jbennet: would most likely had led to 4 cl for +130.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on 18  other table 5@C going down  so 11 for Sweden|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|xenya: in 10 minutes or so he will be brought back to cruel reality|pg||
nt|lml: south asked for a heart earlier|pg||
nt|boedhy:  ah trying to make it...|pg||
nt|pbundy: no useful pitch - and a ruff high appears to doom the contract also|pg||
nt|pbundy: not to mention some clubs which must be disposed of......|pg||
nt|jbennet: a narrow escape. for -1. |pg||
pc|c6|nt|lml: with the high spade|pg||
nt|yuval10: he saw KJ@d KQ@s in N, K@h can't be with him as well|pg||
pc|c9|nt|athene: north might have intended 4@C to say "you can save in 5@C if you like"|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: some more imps coming up for sweden|pg||
nt|runnerup: looks like another 10 |pg||
nt|hantveit: It must be the @c ace|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|lml: an established partnership like the Herbst have it easier because they know what to expect from each other|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh sorry  deWijs declarer|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i don't know EW definition of "semi-construtive"|pg||
pc|h2|nt|boedhy:  well their is the advatage of being known as a good player......|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Versace didn't open West hand|pg||
nt|rv: only 5 since Lauria couldn't manage to find way to make 8 tricks in @h partial|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: @d6 could be singleton or T6|pg||
nt|tez: 3 of @h suit preferance here|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: so muller now thinking whether he should try to cash a 2nd @d|pg||
nt|rv: Muller can safely play second trump to cater to all scenarios|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: but he knows de Wijs only had @h JTxxxx, so @cA also possible|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Drijver  4@S North|pg||
pc|h3|nt|rnmalik: played on @S and @H 3/2. |pg||
nt|yuval10: neither can the A@c|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ryskiel_: pewnie uk³¹da tekst przemówienia obroñczego|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Declarer giving up 3 tricks|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: just making|pg||
nt|xenya: down 1 (i don't think he will take a deep @D finesse on the 2nd round) |pg||
nt|ahollan1: deWijs may open west hand 1N  [or PASS]|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|wild card: but when you try to ruff your diamonds you only need spades 3/2 and diamonds 5/3|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: wistuj¹ - jak w "wist rozmowa w tym samym jêzyku" |pg||
nt|lechcold: kontra by³aby sportowa bez pi¹tego trefla, a z nim jako siê broni wg. mnie|pg||
nt|boedhy:  peolpe tend to trsut you|pg||
nt|pbundy: with the spade ace not sitting well, all spells trouble for declarer|pg||
nt|kit: I'm told 3@H is invite+ in spades|pg||
nt|brgpro: say a @c lead and back, S shd just cover E's card...leaving him with no entry in hand ( to play a @s up)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: last time i played constructive raises, partner and i defined it as hand that would accept AT LEAST one game try|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|nt|xenya: yes, looks like it will be -2 |pg||
nt|roswolf: establish clubs and hold his breath by playing a diamond up|pg||
nt|anton72: looks like 140 and flat board |pg||
nt|rv: 4@s is normal contract here, very enterprising (euphemism for gambling) players  may try 3n:)|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|antoniz: Piotr myli o singlowym Asie pik|pg||
nt|anton72: sry ..was private |pg||
nt|anton72: but anyway ..Hi Mike ..and thx for the nice job what u doing well !!|pg||
nt|mdgraham: well, 140 looks about right :)|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|lml: 12 well deserved imps to give Israel the lead|pg||
nt|kamyk: gdyby @CA sta³...|pg||
nt|jbennet: he might deduce south having 2623 from start|pg||
nt|ahollan1:  19  [4@HN=]   Fallenius in 2@H|pg||
nt|jbennet: that couldnt have been s surprise.|pg||
nt|pbundy: had he known the layout, a club pitch might have been more opportune|pg||
nt|ahollan1: strongly recommend    buckle up   this will be a bumpy set of boards|pg||
nt|jbennet: the hearts were huge huge favourite to be 4-0.|pg||
nt|hantveit: then it makes more sence, but he must have lost if after the opening...|pg||
nt|rv: well def|pg||
pc|dA|nt|lml: yes it does but Stansby doesnt know that yet|pg||
nt|boedhy:  but Campos now kowes never to trust Brink anymore|pg||
nt|roswolf: another push|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: nice discards as well, helping partner|pg||
pc|d7|nt|vugraphznv: he did not ruff yet|pg||
nt|jbennet: but on the other hand there is no way to deep finesse in D lacking 1 entry.|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
nt|lml: he is about to find out though :)|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ady: smalltrue  there was a defence   smalll club at trick 2  possible but difficult|pg||
nt|boedhy:  something i could have told him on beforehand|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|jbennet: in fact it was 99 % sure that hearts were 4-0.|pg||
nt|jbennet: if not then east only possible distributon were 4324|pg||
pc|d6|nt|vugraphznv: claiming losing a @s and a @H|pg||
nt|panosk: what a struggle for a mere 2@S part score|pg||
nt|panosk: 2@H sorry|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: if he makes it lose 2 imps goes it down 7 imps|pg||
nt|kit: Zagorin ducked the ace of hearts.  Weinstein now working on a trump coup, but won't succeed since third round of diamonds isn't cashing.|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|jbennet: and no sane player would sit for 3 h x with 4-c support in clubs and only xxx in hearts.|pg||
pc|d9|nt|star6ija: @c switch would probably defeat the contract|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: same contract in other room, but South described minor 2-suiter|pg||
nt|lechcold: oj|pg||
pc|h6|nt|jbennet: so since j9x is impossible to handle; the issue is play south for EJ or E9.|pg||
nt|runnerup: and no entry to play A9 -so Aj|pg||
nt|jbennet: he might be afraid that south had 2713 from start.|pg||
nt|xenya: well if N had J9x now, the finesse would be essential|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: mnie by siê broni³¹, gdyby mia³ porz¹dzne kiery |pg||
nt|jillan:  afternoon all|pg||
nt|pbundy: hi jill :)|pg||
mc|11|nt|bobholl: claim|pg||
nt|hantveit: The first brige player who has not done something incredible stupi at the bridge table, is welcome to trou the first stone... it will not be me|pg||
nt|hantveit: stupid|pg||
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qx|o5|st||md|3SK5HK53DAJ876CQJ6,SA832HT96DK953CT8,ST74HQ82DT2CA7532,SQJ96HAJ74DQ4CK94|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|nt|gavin:  Levin's Diamond lead indicating he has diamond shortness to declarer|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
nt|gavin:  and the fact that north has diamond shortness means he is going to play more of the points with south|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg||
nt|gavin:  since the person with diamond length would have the harder time acting |pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hK|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|s3|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3SK5HK53DAJ876CQJ6,SA832HT96DK953CT8,ST74HQ82DT2CA7532,SQJ96HAJ74DQ4CK94|sv|n|nt|athene: but south is not very often going to know when to save because he might think NORTH has hearts|pg||
nt|athene: bocchi-madala play quite an active game so i would not be surprised if bocchi bids 5@C in that same position|pg||
nt|athene: a bit unlucky|pg||
nt|kemperg: seeing bears on the road|pg||
nt|lechcold: atak atutowy spod trzeciej dziesi¹tki winien zasugerowaæ Martensowi, ¿e w innych kolorach Upmark ma niewygodne do wistu konfiguracje|pg||
nt|lechcold: tak mi sie wydaje|pg||
nt|odysseus69: not any more -the early club play usually indicates a singleton - else declarer would try to find out more before guessing club|pg||
nt|lml: so 2NT goes doen 2 both ways|pg||
nt|xenya: just 12 imps -- well played by Stansby|pg||
nt|lml: curious hand says oscar the owl|pg||
nt|boedhy:  starnge bidding tho|pg||
nt|ady: might make 4@S on last hand   but unlikely contract|pg||
nt|boedhy:  thought the 4-1 was too much but the @h lead helped a lot|pg||
nt|boedhy:  just loosing two imps|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: now everyone has got the heat up -- also the operator :)|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: preetty amazing to hold it to -2|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and now we hope to calm down a little |pg||
nt|skaftij:  6@h quickly beaten on a @s ruff in OR|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: what a start for sweden|pg||
nt|xenya: indeed|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Levin-Weinstein are giants of world bridge |pg||
nt|ady: that could be 12 toChina|pg||
nt|roswolf: e/w may shoot out 3nt here|pg||
nt|ady: and could get shot for down 2|pg||
nt|bobholl: strange systems produce strange results :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: team orange steal some more imps|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW will think it unlucky that 1N also -1|pg||
nt|davidstern: Hi All from the venue|pg||
nt|davidstern: Hi Al and Geoff|pg||
nt|davidstern: And Jack|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi:)|pg||
nt|brgpro: Verhees led @sA, solves all the problem...had he led a @c...1NT might go 2 or more down|pg||
mb|p|nt|ron_sc2002: 5@C bid would win 4 imps and maybe more if EW will bid to the 5 level|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=12-14|pg||
nt|wild card: on fleisher's line of play, he would probably only have succeeded if spades were 3/2|pg||
nt|lechcold: porz¹dne by³y..bez @H9 by³aby tu masakra:)|pg||
nt|pawel90:  moim zdaniem trzeba kontrowaÄ z rÄkÄ Jacka.|pg||
nt|pawel90:  nie po to tak daleko jechaÅ, Å¼eby pasowaÄ|pg||
nt|szalay: good fitting 4@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S=10-15 HCP, 5+@S|pg||
nt|hantveit: 4 @c one down in open|pg||
mb|1N|an|12-14|nt|antoniz: to kwestia stylu gry,graj¹ ostro to kontra|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: analezienie trefli jest bardzo trudne nawet przy posiadaniu ich w liczbie 9 na osi, bo otwierajacy maj¹c s³abe otwarcie powie 2@s a nie ¿adne 3@c|pg||
nt|jbgood: 8-11 "weak" 2s|pg||
nt|boedhy:  http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl  the WBF site is offline but here you can find the scores too|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Brink Drijver play transfer is the sitaution on board 20 so something else went wrong|pg||
nt|oosmanb: 4@S |pg||
nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers!|pg||
nt|bt: on a heart lead he has some work to do|pg||
nt|fabsayc: when you suit is running bid 3nt, dont worry much about stoppers or where 9th trick will come from|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome David|pg||
nt|brolucius: I just love watching these competitive auctions, with world class players making the decisions.|pg||
nt|bt: i assume decl got a diamond lead at the other table here and gave up on the heart finesse, lall doesnt believe much in finesses we already know|pg||
nt|brolucius: It doesn't actually improve my own success at such decisions, but I kid myself that it does.|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: podpowiadaj¹, ¿e z omawianego meczu w Yokohamie tu wystêpuje jeszcze dwóch zawodników  Baldursson i Gawry|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@C=Forcing  16+ HCP unbal, 17+ BAL|pg||
nt|roswolf: now one for n/s|pg||
nt|mdgraham: hmm odd auction next door|pg||
nt|brgpro: the @hA lead made the defence rather obvious|pg||
nt|bobholl: @C unlucky for 3 nt|pg||
nt|roswolf: the poisoned arrow is shot into the air|pg||
nt|brgpro: hi Dav|pg||
nt|davidstern: The venue is amazingly well suited to a bridge tournament with a vast player's lounge and lots of separate rooms for VG/BBO|pg||
nt|brgpro: 1@d=5+ or 4441?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: show of hands    how many remember when this hand would be bid   P-P-P-P|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ HCP|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=12-14|pg||
mb|p|nt|pawel90:  trudno, ale oni wtedy muszÄ graÄ 3@D. Jak mamy 9 trefli i 7 pikÃ³w to na pewno je zalicytujÄ|pg||
nt|pawel90:  je=kara|pg||
nt|odysseus69: the jack of spades was just revealed - now all E-W have to do is reach 5 diamonds|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: transfer|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: good start for Iceland|pg||
nt|hantveit: 5d at wests han might be interesting if north tries to lift on heart ace|pg||
nt|bobholl: what to bid with the west hand ?|pg||
nt|roswolf: ie a preempt |pg||
nt|roswolf: the dutch do bridge in style:)|pg||
nt|rv: good 6@s for E-W here|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznv: 2@s+5@ss+4@cs|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 7-10hcp|pg||
nt|kemperg: should fear a ruff|pg||
nt|wild card: or 4/1 with the 4card with the 3 trumps|pg||
nt|lml: seldom right for a team to play 2NT in both directions|pg||
nt|jbgood: they also use 2@d for the real garbage|pg||
nt|panosk: NS have a minor slam EW will compete |pg||
nt|bt: 4@S might have worked better here, but 1@S is normal|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is the modern style to overcall 1@S rather than 4@S.|pg||
nt|runnerup: yes now a slam again and this is over |pg||
nt|jbennet: thsi is a board where again science takes the pot.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: PASS=a) 0-4 HCP  b) PEN|pg||
nt|skaftij:  running scores BB|pg||
nt|skaftij:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qphase=QF&qroundno=1&qtournid=885|pg||
nt|bobholl: nice position @D K :)|pg||
nt|szalay: always tough to bid game after 1@C (strong)|pg||
nt|mdgraham: South's 2@d looks like either (a) hearts (b) both majors|pg||
nt|kerasidis: hi all|pg||
nt|anton72: i guess ...both M |pg||
nt|mdgraham: in which case, North may have meant 2@S as a (case a) transfer-accept of hearts (b) well, don't know really|pg||
nt|anton72: no way to ending in 2 @s if partner know 5+ @h i think|pg||
nt|anton72: or may be you are right ...good accept for hearts ...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: semi-force|pg||
nt|pbundy: a bit surprised that east did not show a 2 suiter here - particularly given the colors|pg||
nt|brgpro: if Versace doubles, they would be in game...so |pg||
nt|roswolf: the clubs must be orange flavoured here|pg||
nt|brgpro: 3NT or 4@H, Lauria is considering...but never 3@H i believe|pg||
nt|roswolf: fair comment jack|pg||
nt|brgpro: pass?|pg||
nt|bobholl: may be even pass :)|pg||
nt|ady: 3@C looks down 1 on a spade lead    bu East might be more ambitious|pg||
nt|brgpro: that is a big decision...although that is the winning one perhaps|pg||
nt|roswolf: now pass frightens me|pg||
nt|davidstern: Yes and as Jos points out excellent journalist press and Bulletin facilities|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H = FG, 9+ HCP, 2+ controls, 4+@S, maybe longer suit|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Grue 2@S West|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: in the Open Room they did start with a weak 2 using multi ... that may have made it a bit harder|pg||
nt|rnmalik: @S were 3/2, you mean @Hs.|pg||
nt|boedhy:  3crd support|pg||
nt|oosmanb: moderately straight forward hands so far, and almost all the tables playing v fast|pg||
nt|barnets: Israel bid to 5@C here with little values 20 hcp e/w|pg||
nt|rnmalik: 20:20 both sides and partial.|pg||
nt|anton72: anyway sweden can get a big gain here|pg||
nt|mdgraham: and it looks lie 4@h has a good play on this lie, but I don't think they'll get there|pg||
nt|pbundy: double now?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i don't know the 2@C rebid :(|pg||
nt|bobholl: never pretty in comparisations doubled partscore made :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: im sorry, north wasnt thinking. Just forgot to pass for him:)|pg||
nt|ady: might try 3NT    that  should come unstuck|pg||
nt|roswolf: would perhaps put off breakfast for the vampires |pg||
nt|brgpro: we knew that|pg||
nt|brgpro: give N one more @h and one less @s...pass could be dangerous|pg||
nt|bobholl: larry (the law ) says pass may be 16 1/2 tricks only|pg||
pc|d7|nt|panosk: is he thinking for 6 go to 7 or just pass?|pg||
nt|panosk: *6@D|pg||
nt|panosk: intersting views from kibs coming in |pg||
nt|panosk: i agree it seems N doesnt 1st round control in spades else wud have bid 5@S|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Running scores |pg||
nt|skaftij:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@S shows a sound heart raise.|pg||
nt|brolucius: The double shows some spade support (or a doubleton honor) but denies the values to bid 3@S.|pg||
nt|hlortz: and theres always the guilty pleasure in seeing others go wrong - gives us hope :)|pg||
nt|bt: now fallenius should get diamonds in there to involve partner|pg||
nt|brolucius: Indeed.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@D now?|pg||
nt|brolucius: North has a great fit for both red suits, as you see.|pg||
nt|bt: luckily for sweden fallenius would normally, only god knows what fredin would do with that hand|pg||
nt|bt: not even god actually|pg||
nt|bt: fredin has a great mind but for us mortals its hard to understand|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: if they bid this slam i will say again..woooow|pg||
nt|jbennet: 3h probably some sort of semi fit in spades. a hand unsuitable to rebid 2 NT.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 25hcp|pg||
nt|runnerup: 5 @d better than 4 @s -if you loose  one @d|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C = good raise of @H|pg||
nt|xenya: will they get to 4? I'm not sure|pg||
nt|ahollan1: many pairs use 1N as the "cue"|pg||
nt|kit: Very aggressively bid to 5@C in other room -- might make, might not.|pg||
nt|gracelin: they better stay low|pg||
nt|roswolf: transfer|pg||
nt|gracelin: 1S shows D|pg||
nt|roswolf: or controla maybe|pg||
nt|roswolf: transfer|pg||
nt|roswolf: not much on for n/s|pg||
nt|mdgraham: suggestion that 2@d was spades + another - quite possible|pg||
nt|hantveit: pass if 2clubs is majors|pg||
nt|brgpro: wow|pg||
nt|nkgupt: does he follow it any more? :)|pg||
nt|davidstern: So six top losers here|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: should South cover S! Q?|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ron_sc2002: 2@C is both majors by E|pg||
nt|ady: good morning all|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: hi David welcome|pg||
nt|odysseus69: good morning David|pg||
nt|odysseus69: sure to hear 5D now|pg||
nt|ady: Italians got to 5@D   and guessed the J@S   after the same take-out double from south|pg||
nt|ady: thx    good morning all|pg||
nt|panosk: also clubs beter in case a club ruff |pg||
nt|boedhy:  2NT looks natural tho and that is imo strange but absolutely Brink like....|pg||
nt|ady: request for link  for scores please|pg||
nt|roswolf: 4@s MAY BE ANOTHER SPOT NOW|pg||
nt|roswolf: if rdbl showed Hx in spades|pg||
nt|ady: some play that re-dbl showing at least doubleton honor in spades   others play good general values|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2@c not alerted on both sides|pg||
nt|jbennet: 2 clubs rebid probably shows some sort of extras. |pg||
nt|hantveit: rebid clubs later|pg||
nt|bobholl: 1@D for the lead :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm for all running scores|pg||
nt|ahollan1: vanProoijen  3@D North|pg||
nt|roswolf: well this is a quick -1|pg||
pc|d2|nt|athene: duboin giving his partner quite a bit of leeway for 2@C at favourable|pg||
nt|ron_sc2002: 2@H is a fine contract|pg||
nt|lml: lots of tricks here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 2/3@S|pg||
nt|bt: now fredin gets no help deciding, thats the problem w 4@H|pg||
nt|barnets: north south were silent|pg||
nt|roswolf: 2@D?|pg||
nt|hantveit: in creative moments :)|pg||
nt|bobholl: i wouldn't have bid (afraid of 4@H)|pg||
nt|brgpro: 3....@h...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: muller will relay|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
nt|lml: more than 13|pg||
nt|lml: on the finesses|pg||
nt|wild card: I mean if hearts were 3/2 and spades 4/1 he would have also gone down|pg||
nt|rnmalik: true.|pg||
nt|garden2005: zdaje siê, ¿e matematyczna lekko wiêksza szansa zawiod³a (> o @dJx)|pg||
nt|pawel90:  tu moÅ¼e byÄ strata - dobrze bronili na drugim stole|pg||
nt|lml: running scores  /Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|panosk: thx for ur insight|pg||
nt|boedhy:  3@d|pg||
nt|ady: dont think anyone going very high|pg||
nt|ady: 2@D  should be down 1|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Did not hear explanation of redouble|pg||
nt|ady: 200 as good as any|pg||
nt|gracelin: 3D or 4C seems ok|pg||
nt|gracelin: Shi missed a chance to double 1S to show spade. either for lead directing or for competing.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: my guess     missorted hand|pg||
nt|hantveit: I think aggressive in the long run is best. |pg||
nt|ady: remember  though Versace could be stronger  and 500-800 looms|pg||
nt|nkgupt: great judgement to bid a tiny 3@h:)|pg||
nt|bobholl: i don't like it but this is the winning decision :(|pg||
nt|roswolf: caution perhaps justified here|pg||
nt|roswolf: true bob|pg||
nt|ady: 3@H a surprise |pg||
nt|davidstern: Hmmm negative one but unlikely quick|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2nd/4th lead       Reverse Smith vs NT|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|athene: but his @DQJ are not going to be much use facing shortage|pg||
nt|vugraphznv:  running scores: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|boedhy:  3@s|pg||
nt|boedhy:  all pass|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: you are WAY AHEAD of the players :)|pg||
nt|boedhy:  trying to make up for my last prediction|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Duboin thinking now|pg||
nt|andersk: I wonder if 3 @S would be stronger than 4 in this auction?|pg||
nt|skaftij:  hmm|pg||
nt|skaftij:  South worth a move|pg||
nt|ahollan1: likes 4@H & @D filler  but 4333 slows down Drijver|pg||
nt|szalay: rdbl|pg||
nt|mdgraham: I'll get the CC from the ecats site and see if I can found out - give 5 mins|pg||
nt|anton72: 1 imp in the air ....|pg||
nt|anton72: but what ..1 by 1 ....|pg||
nt|oosmanb: some play rdbl there as Hx in @H|pg||
nt|oosmanb: But if 1@h could be 4 cards, rdbl as support looks good|pg||
nt|nkgupt: he sure knows when to underbid :)|pg||
nt|bobholl: great lead now find the @D ruff|pg||
nt|roswolf: these guys may do strange looking things but they usually result in positive imp results|pg||
nt|brgpro: with this lead, 3@h is not the winning one but pass|pg||
nt|brgpro: well, i would open 1@c 3rd seat and pass when pd responds a red suit|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ady: likely 11 tricks with nice lay of diamonds and spade split|pg||
nt|stoffers: Einarson with a huge hand after whats shown here, i would rather bid 3@s than 3@d|pg||
nt|ady: noticed Zack 's 3@D     presumeable at that point weaker than pass?|pg||
nt|boedhy:  can he read the 5 he should|pg||
nt|jbennet: west will rule out 3NT as a playable spot. |pg||
nt|xenya: with NS silent. bidding this slam would have been a real feat|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Ola Rimstedt let me know that in the open room they play 6d|pg||
nt|runnerup: if you dont loose any @d -you make 6 -but here -important to loose no @d -whenr you are short of trumps also |pg||
nt|xenya: i wonder how many tables will reach it -- not too many i think|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: so may be the kiwis can take some badly needed imps back|pg||
nt|szalay: cheap and effective|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Johnsson helping NS get back into game exploration|pg||
nt|szalay: 3@C-3@H-4@H?|pg||
nt|bobholl: ns still don't know the bad @S|pg||
nt|kit: East opened the bidding there -- here, they won't get so high.|pg||
nt|mdgraham: a common approach in "Brit 1@c" is for 2@c by South to show the majors and 2@d to show one major |pg||
nt|jbennet: but in view of souths 3 cl bid.|pg||
nt|grebrof: 2nt now from Boye I guess|pg||
pc|sA|nt|lml: with 33 HCP most pairs should reach a slam somewhere|pg||
nt|lml: maybe all|pg||
nt|antoniz: po kierowym lub treflowym -1|pg||
nt|odysseus69: this will make for sure - South would love to withdraw his take out double|pg||
nt|skaftij:  this will be 15 imps to Israel|pg||
nt|skaftij:  14|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: yes|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: definetly imps for the kiwis|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, and the night is still young for them -- there will be other opportunities no doubt|pg||
nt|runnerup: there is a way to put a @d loose away so take care of @h by dummys trumps -but now -after @c lead there is no way to go down |pg||
nt|xenya: now, of course, EW may find a save in @C|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but @S only 3 losers    and  that's ok in 4@H|pg||
nt|skaftij:  costs 500|pg||
nt|gracelin: when opponents play these transfer responses, one shud take advantage of that.|pg||
nt|bobholl: west again with 2 nt ? secondary @D |pg||
nt|bobholl: don't like to double with no @H|pg||
nt|kit: 2@H could be balanced 25+, might not be hearts, so 2@S asks|pg||
nt|kit: and 3@D is natural 2-suiter|pg||
nt|davidstern: Defence must cash out else...|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: zreszt¹ jak oceni³ Gawry kontrê Kality to ja wiem ale nie powiem|pg||
nt|boedhy:  for a quick 1 off..|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well we knew this was coming, if i bid 4@H my intent is to pull any doubles|pg||
nt|bt: i think fallenius could have done better here|pg||
nt|barnets: a spade was led against 5@C that gives 4 spade tricks and dec only needs 2 @D ruffs|pg||
nt|barnets: so will make for sure|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Levin explaing : 3c is his worst hand :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: explaining|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers!|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, some play that pass is weaker than 3@C.|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@D showed a sound raise to at least 3@C. 3@C instead would have been pre-emptive.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or  just thought too good for 2@S :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H = 4@S  5+@D|pg||
nt|rv: Al knows most of big @c systems by heart:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@H = exactly 4261|pg||
pc|s2|nt|lml: needing a club finesse you really dont want to be in the grand but ...|pg||
nt|ady: nice cheap trick to begin|pg||
nt|rnmalik: yet to see a routine game hand:)|pg||
nt|jbgood: so no double - and a small win for Sweden|pg||
nt|panosk: club ruff if in diamonds that is|pg||
nt|ady: e/w taken the non vul save|pg||
nt|boedhy:  yeah|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: you were right :)|pg||
nt|bt: you have to make your mind up if you want to involve partner or do guesswork, sometimes informative bids helps opponents also|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nice bid showing @D help|pg||
nt|skaftij:  3@d suits brink|pg||
nt|szalay: no more time to bid it|pg||
nt|roswolf: agreed|pg||
nt|ahollan1: confession time --  i use notes|pg||
nt|rv: he is a great asset in any commentary panel|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@S asks controls   [A=2 K=1]|pg||
pc|s4|nt|xenya: Martel's pass shows equal length in the majors |pg||
nt|kiwibridge: and 3@H got it in the OR|pg||
nt|skaftij:  in OR, North doubled 5@d and South pulled to 5 @H|pg||
nt|skaftij:  That went to East wko bid the par contract, 6@d|pg||
nt|skaftij:  North then bid 6@h, certainly reasonable |pg||
nt|jbennet: 2 clubs more likely to an improvised call (not willing to rebid AQ-nano-sixth.)|pg||
pc|s9|nt|antoniz: sk¹d znam ten tekst?|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: z autopsji Antoni z autopsji:)|pg||
nt|antoniz: :):)|pg||
nt|ady: notice 3nt slipped through in OR|pg||
nt|panosk: gd call|pg||
nt|ady: on that lead making 200 anyway|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes|pg||
nt|ady: 5@H   just making  flat     tht Italiaans may well have been in 6|pg||
nt|roswolf: declarer might not believe the even spade break|pg||
nt|tomi2: cant north have @CA instead of @CK and @SQJ here?|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|panosk: 7 imps to Sweeden|pg||
nt|oosmanb: switch to @D probably, looks like only chance |pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4 controls|pg||
nt|ahollan1: top level for convention cards of all participants   http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2011netherlands/systems.asp|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|lml: so south knows they are off the @CQ from the keycard response|pg||
nt|udo: @D discard?|pg||
nt|lml: this looks like at least a small pickup for USA|pg||
nt|szalay: wd|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but i think @CA undisclosed   Brink gets to game, but maybe Drijver should have bid it|pg||
nt|xenya: indeed|pg||
nt|jbennet: and indeed it worked fine, |pg||
nt|ahollan1: i don't recall if i mentioned    both pairs  upside-down count & attitude|pg||
nt|jbennet: enabling NS to figure out the good fit.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: indeed it worked out very well   i particular like the way the auction put @SK in West hand|pg||
nt|pbundy: although it may not be 100% certain to grue that the club 2 is a singleton|pg||
nt|hantveit: angelini did not dear say 3D|pg||
nt|bobholl: brave :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: both pairs  upside-down count & attitude|pg||
pc|h5|nt|stoffers: But, bad splits and game not making today- quite lucky for him|pg||
nt|ady: best defence down 3   but 4@H should make|pg||
nt|kit: with that and 4-card heart support he probably would have Q-bid 4@C|pg||
pc|s3|nt|bt: 4@D is good if its your contract and gets partner involved, it was on this hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: can someone please give me the running scores link|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Drijver hand did NOT have to be this pure|pg||
nt|bobholl: they stopped just in time |pg||
nt|tomi2: but he has to show his fit first, I would take 4@C as a cuebidwith @D fit|pg||
nt|szalay: I'm quite curious why floks lead T from T9xxx, instead of smallest to sho count|pg||
nt|szalay: show|pg||
nt|ahollan1: then traverse  BermudaBowl and country|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|athene: as expected, bocchi bid 5@C and reaped a large reward|pg||
nt|hantveit: agree, I do not like to double with void either. 2nt showing 6 clubs an 4d would be my choice|pg||
nt|rv: normally most of relay systems work in following order a) find out partner's shape b) find out full distribution c) find out controls or keycards etc|pg||
pc|s6|nt|lml: the canadians were a bit lucky|pg||
nt|lml: 6NT by north can go down if the spade and clubs are offside|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Likely ruff and would bank on @D finesse, whick is correct.|pg||
nt|ady: in fact sorry this is down 2|pg||
nt|ady: e/w have the club pips to restrick to 1 loser|pg||
nt|bobholl: on a @S switch they only make 3 now 4 i guess|pg||
nt|szalay: folks|pg||
nt|kit: Makes sense -- well, maybe Levin would make another move with that.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4 controls means   AA or AKK  so Muller knows grand slam not making|pg||
nt|rv: there is also provision usually to break relay and switch to natural methods|pg||
nt|rv: best lead for defense|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this lead holds to 12 tricks   other leads Muller makes small slam|pg||
nt|rv: Muller will take his time to play to first trick|pg||
nt|brgpro: hi en hoi|pg||
nt|ahollan1: no worries if trump 22     probably can't make if 40|pg||
nt|rv: Hi Jack|pg||
nt|ahollan1: livestream  http://www.wkbridge2011.com/en/live   i believe it is a table from Venice Cup  England v Indonesia|pg||
nt|rv: can Muller ruff both a @h and 4th @c, he may play to set-up @ds?|pg||
nt|brgpro: after this lead he has to try to ruff twice in dummy|pg||
nt|rv: win @HA, @CA, @SA, @ck pitching a @h, duck a @d?|pg||
nt|brgpro: there is a danger of a trump promotion|pg||
nt|rv: there could be trump promotion if he attempts to ruff both @h and @c|pg||
nt|brgpro: he can come back with trump|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so what happens if Madala flies @DK?|pg||
nt|brgpro: well, the promotion is always there anyway|pg||
nt|rv: I think it is down on accurate defense|pg||
nt|brgpro: i mean the danger of a promotion|pg||
nt|rv: if he plays on @d, dummy can be punched to prevent setting up @ds|pg||
nt|brgpro: not if he wins @hA then @cA then @s back and duck a @d...|pg||
nt|timb: Declarer just has to ruff a heart and a club|pg||
pc|d6|nt|lml: from south 6@C is better |pg||
nt|lml: with the @SQ protected|pg||
nt|odysseus69: North had a chance to double 2C but resisted - |pg||
nt|xenya: -1 on the lead?|pg||
nt|boedhy:  think 3@s will make also|pg||
nt|brolucius: I have only just come back from a week-end away, so I don't even know which teams qualified.|pg||
nt|barnets: in 5@C dec takes care of his 3 diamond losers by ruffing 2 and pitching one on the long spade|pg||
nt|barnets: after a spade lead|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|brgpro: kuckily W has the A that he could see the down trick himself( and he can't guard the @d)|pg||
pc|s8|nt|ron_sc2002: well done by bocchi|pg||
nt|boedhy:  not anymore|pg||
nt|fabsayc: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|andyv:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|fabsayc: thanks all|pg||
nt|roswolf: as i said a quick -1|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|lechcold: nie jestem pewien czy ta szansa by³a wiêksza...bior¹c pod uwagê przes³anki wynikaj¹ce z pierwszego wistu|pg||
nt|ady: down 1 in 3|pg||
nt|brgpro: 2|pg||
nt|brgpro: 5 imps to the Dutch|pg||
nt|davidstern: i am chastened|pg||
nt|brgpro: defence has to play a @H to shorten his trumps in dummy then he can squeeze N in @d and @c|pg||
pc|hT|nt|rnmalik: wd.|pg||
nt|ady: no take out double in OR   and 2@C response from west   system bid  I would think   then eventually 3NT    low spade lead|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: indeed me too another 7|pg||
nt|hantveit: angelini woke up now, and this might be the advantage with boyes double. He has points. 2nt is more defensive|pg||
pc|h2|nt|athene: if he plays a trump now, the roof comes in; south just draws trumps|pg||
nt|lechcold: tak czy siak -12|pg||
nt|roswolf: now he will|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ron_sc2002: and the defence made the same to beat 5@H|pg||
nt|ady: however entries are scarce  so still may be down 3|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|jbgood: N showing confidence in prd's discards|pg||
nt|bobholl: K of @D getting count now ?|pg||
nt|hantveit: looks like -2 |pg||
nt|hantveit: can just play 3 times @d|pg||
nt|hantveit: dia A, partner ask for more dia|pg||
nt|bobholl: may be only -1 (KQ@C take care of @S|pg||
nt|hantveit: east must hold xx in clubs after the 3 club bid|pg||
nt|hantveit: I do not think it is enough time bob, east might ruff the third club with a low heart|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @C5   tough card to read|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|lml: as the cards lie of course nothing can hurt a grand|pg||
nt|jbennet: think west is thinking of guarding agaist sp 5-1. (if they were then winning the lead in dummy had been fatal).|pg||
nt|pbundy: he simply may not have wished to lead away from AQ in hearts or the like|pg||
nt|oosmanb: friendly layout|pg||
pc|c8|nt|athene: but roofs coming in hurt less when it's just 50s :)|pg||
nt|garden2005: ka¿dy pisze i myli to co mu siê wydaje, analizy musz¹ byæ szybkie ... mo¿na czasem sie pomyliæ :) nie upieram siê, ze mam racjê|pg||
nt|lml: I think so|pg||
nt|bobholl: 5 even|pg||
pc|c2|nt|gracelin: the Chinese NS in closed room is playing Precision.  South will start with a strong club and north maybe game minded.|pg||
nt|ady: down 2|pg||
nt|brgpro: dec. cant even claim as he doesnt know the @dK is on or not|pg||
nt|timb: but there are entry problems|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|udo: should be only 1 more trick for versace|pg||
nt|ady: setting up a 3rd diamond trick in case spades break badly|pg||
nt|ady: if east eventually enters with 3rd round of spades to west hand and runs J@C   south can win and playQ@d  sett up the 10  but no good to east who has 4 clubs|pg||
nt|bobholl: but will angelini find the @S shift (he should off course)|pg||
nt|hantveit: east will surely play spade first time he can|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I think odd is encouraging|pg||
pc|d4|nt|lechcold: ja te¿:)|pg||
nt|ady: sorry there was a take-out dbl|pg||
nt|roswolf: this cardplay in defence is of the highest order|pg||
nt|ady: still gain|pg||
pc|dA|nt|odysseus69: going through the motions but we all know how it is going to end|pg||
nt|jkotor: cos szkodzi grac atu na oddanie waleta?|pg||
nt|jkotor: sorry, priv|pg||
nt|lml: unless somehow Stansby can engineer an endplay on south|pg||
nt|xenya: the defence might slip though|pg||
nt|boedhy:  so 2 imps for the netherlands|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: no well still OK for NL|pg||
nt|bobholl: or 3 sry|pg||
nt|oosmanb: :)|pg||
nt|oosmanb: cant finesse|pg||
nt|oosmanb: unless he thinks K@D off and Q@S on |pg||
nt|oosmanb: nice defence to put declarer on the spot|pg||
nt|bobholl: if the @S Q and @D K are interchanged :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3 imps to the azurri|pg||
pc|d5|nt|stoffers: USA 21-0 vs sweden after 5, here no swing at all|pg||
nt|lml: if north doesnt play a spade|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|jbennet: east's silence over 1 sp allowed NS to nice and quietly find out that thier cards fitted well.|pg||
nt|pbundy: all's well that ends well tho - for USA  2|pg||
nt|hantveit: for north, it maybe looks like boye holds 4-0-4-5. In that case he might play club KQ at once|pg||
pc|cT|nt|ady: looks a push|pg||
nt|stoffers: vs Chile, sry|pg||
nt|timb: @SK was fatal|pg||
pc|c3|nt|lechcold: Joe rozgrywa wspaniale jak do tej pory|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|athene: south will score the @D7 at trick 13 too|pg||
nt|lml: I think it is possible now|pg||
nt|bobholl: will be -2 now|pg||
nt|hantveit: spade ace, q from han, and spade J might work against some, but not here|pg||
nt|hantveit: hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: apologies if Hurd had pitched @C2 on run of @S    that would have encouraged @C|pg||
pc|h3|nt|xenya: now S can be endplayed|pg||
nt|brgpro: in reality he will go down...|pg||
pc|h9|nt|lechcold: Justin:)|pg||
nt|lechcold: przejêcie kiera wygrywa³o|pg||
nt|antoniz: tak jest,a tak -1|pg||
nt|lechcold: niezwykle ciekawe rozgrywkowo rozdanie|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: 10@d?|pg||
nt|antoniz: lepiej 10 trefl|pg||
nt|xenya: if declarer reads the position|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Nystrom could have shown red suits immediately via (1@S)-3@D|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|hantveit: club 9 = play spade|pg||
nt|bobholl: meckstroth open 2@H with the N hand|pg||
nt|hantveit: will probably try spade ace and club q. -2 is for sure now|pg||
mc|9|nt|lml: it might have been a buit harder if South split the heart honors|pg||
pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4SQH7DAKT986CKT642,SKJT93HJ9653D32CA,S74HKT842DQJ7CQJ7,SA8652HAQD54C9853|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|4S|nt|gavin:  another hand where both sides can take a lot of tricks|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|nt|kit: Weinstein will bid 5@C -- either a make or a save from his point of view|pg||
mb|5D|mb|d|mb|p|nt|gavin:  5 diamonds has the potential of losing more than 3 tricks on club ruffs|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|gavin:  best defense from ew would be to cash the ace of clubs and then use each of easts major suit entries|pg||
nt|gavin:  to take club ruffs|pg||
nt|kit: The problem with that sort of 4@S call is that you have to make the decisions yourself -- difficult to bring partner into the picture|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg||
nt|gavin:  east is aware that west has lead a singleton here, so he gives suit preference|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
nt|gavin:  3@H back is a count card, 3rd/5th|pg||
nt|kit: However, N-S unlucky they chose diamonds, as defense gets 2 ruffs for 500|pg||
nt|kit: I think Grue will know to try a spade next|pg||
nt|gavin:  Lall has an interesting position|pg||
pc|c5|nt|gavin:  he is deciding which major suit to suggest to west|pg||
pc|c4|pc|d2|nt|gavin:  after the club ruff|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|kit: what is his problem?  his partner must have stiff ace of clubs|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|gavin:  his problem was with his suit preference|pg||
nt|gavin:  whether to suggest a heart or spade back|pg||
nt|kit: oh -- clear to suggest a heart -- Grue will know whether or not the heart will live|pg||
pc|c8|nt|gavin:  and if east has 6 spades and 1 heart ?|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: I knew the @hs says Grue --- so I did know I had to play a @s|pg||
pc|c2|pc|d3|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|szalay: I think in that case COULD open w2 in @S|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SQH7DAKT986CKT642,SKJT93HJ9653D32CA,S74HKT842DQJ7CQJ7,SA8652HAQD54C9853|sv|e|nt|lml: so 2 imps to canda for being in the higher scoring if worse slam|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: that's true|pg||
nt|udo: north discarded all hie entries to @HJ|pg||
nt|kemperg: think they have free drinks anyhow :)|pg||
nt|udo: otherwise would hve been -4|pg||
nt|stoffers: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|stoffers: F5 for refreshing|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: ale roznie zapiszê bo ciekawe|pg||
nt|odysseus69: yes South doubled 1D in OR- even you and I would have doubled David - old and conservative as we are|pg||
nt|ady: lol|pg||
nt|lml: Stansby took a reasonable shot single dummy|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Ginossar asks if its possible to play a little faster|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: almost played one hour and only 5 boards completed|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and with 5@c going down good result i think for the Netherlands|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Last night I spoke with the icelandic pair in this room for some time|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they had a testmatch some time ago against the Netherlands|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and did they tell anything interesting..|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and was beaten quiet heavily|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: another fast one|pg||
nt|andersk: maybe the will get an early dinner today:)|pg||
nt|bt: i get lots of messages but i cant comment on all, but i try :-)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: any rubber bridge players out there??|pg||
nt|gracelin: EW play 15+ - 18 1NT|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: :)|pg||
nt|hantveit: a very good result for east west here. bringing some confidence back to angelini.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: score remains on board 3|pg||
nt|bobholl: wow indeed nice defence|pg||
nt|roswolf: our first slam hand|pg||
nt|brgpro: finally a 6|pg||
nt|ady: slam in either major|pg||
nt|roswolf: team orange creep very close|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm told Justin Lall led @Dx from Kx   allowing slam to make in USA2 v USA1|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: claim was a bit strange, madala showed his cards to give up, then all watched the hands|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 6@S in other room  Brink on lead|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and they saw bocchi got squeezed|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Weinstein in 5@DX south|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: well, north threw a trick, yes|pg||
nt|athene: he could have kept @DJ and the heart winner|pg||
nt|famus: Hi all|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: rozdanie of course|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=14-16|pg||
nt|barnets: dec lost a spade ruff |pg||
nt|gracelin: Guess this East hand qualify for good 15|pg||
nt|pbundy: someone asked me on the last hand if i would have bid vul with east's hand:  no!  but at these colors, i would have entered|pg||
nt|hantveit: a 21/19 fight these hands are more important then many believes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Verhees  5@C South|pg||
mb|1D|nt|athene: if south had ventured 2nt over 2@H that might have pushed EW into 3@H-1, but it was a bit hard with a 3 count|pg||
nt|antoniz: wietne szkoleniowo|pg||
nt|ady: problem for north  if he does double 2@C   then they will reach the making game|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 6D doomed but where will this end?|pg||
nt|barnets: in 5@C|pg||
nt|bobholl: 1 or 4@H ?|pg||
nt|brgpro: in reality it will go down more often than making...however, as i said earlier...there could be a squeeze against N if they are not careful|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|ron_sc2002: 2NT maybe is a fit-inv|pg||
nt|athene: bocchi overcalled 1@H as expected|pg||
nt|athene: on  20|pg||
nt|athene: and got @SA, spade lead, which made it easy|pg||
nt|athene: spade ruff threatened so he just bashed out ace and a trump|pg||
nt|famus: the last bd created a swing bcoz Rashid chose to lead @SA--a @D lead wud've given Bocchi losing options|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I put in the bidding 2 and 2 // and at the moment it is Lauria thinking over 4@s from N|pg||
nt|ady: possible to get overboard   but 6@D should fail|pg||
nt|brolucius: Well, I was disconnected and missed that competitive auction. I will look at it via the MOVIE button.|pg||
nt|barnets: he had it made by not finessing clubs|pg||
nt|barnets: but took club finesse and lost a ruff|pg||
nt|yusufb: oda bole hareretlimi|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=14-16|pg||
nt|hantveit: 10 tricks in minor as the dia are behaving|pg||
nt|bobholl: or namyats :)|pg||
nt|brgpro: how expensive is 7@d?|pg||
nt|brgpro: 5@c for NS on @d guess|pg||
mb|p|nt|udo: 2NT transfer @C ?|pg||
nt|rnmalik: transfer to @C.|pg||
nt|roswolf: well then 1nt is obvious:)|pg||
nt|anton72: good sacriface from OR by England ladies|pg||
nt|bobholl: don't know their range but seems a bit strong to me|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I think the explanation is @C or @H, but not sure|pg||
nt|bobholl: who is saving against whom ??|pg||
nt|brgpro: 1400...|pg||
nt|brgpro: almost the same|pg||
nt|roswolf: doesnt look too difficult to reach although the @D barrage may confuse things|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes 3nt is to be avoided|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW Michaels always shows at least a reasonable hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: good sacrifice|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and 5+5+|pg||
mb|3D!|nt|lml: I would call the north hand a mixed raise ... 2@D suggests a limit raise to me|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2nt = @h fit|pg||
nt|udo: looks like:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: invitational values|pg||
nt|udo: thx|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: explained from Versace to Masood|pg||
nt|ady: around 1NT  loooks likely|pg||
nt|wild card: what's the range of 1NT?|pg||
nt|lechcold: wejcie hmhmhm...graniczne:)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: some play that 4D =D and H|pg||
nt|brolucius: I see that Fallenius failed to take Lars' advice and show his second suit - paying the price.|pg||
nt|skaftij:  2@c = majors|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C=@H & @S|pg||
nt|brolucius: East knows of only 8 trumps between the hands, but may take the push to3@H on a 5-5 hand. |pg||
nt|roswolf: 5@D looks a likely spot|pg||
nt|roswolf: if east bids of course|pg||
nt|bobholl: 5@C would be great now|pg||
nt|brgpro: @s lead to the A then a @d back...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C=game force in one major|pg||
nt|ahollan1: achhh  3@D|pg||
mb|4C|nt|athene: yes, uncontested 1@H-2NT is limit with 3 or 4 cards; clearly a raise here too|pg||
nt|lml: its pretty close between the two choices|pg||
nt|famus: Hello Udo & William|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS 1N=12-14 EXCEPT  3rd seat vul = 15-17|pg||
nt|wild card: thx|pg||
nt|odysseus69: but not here|pg||
nt|odysseus69: North said "content"|pg||
nt|anton72: 5 @d is cool .....even 6 could me made without @h lead and right guessing @c|pg||
nt|roswolf: alot of folks wanted south to bid 6@D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2N=@S raise|pg||
nt|roswolf: north may have fixed hinself fortunately south is so strong he can fly solo|pg||
nt|brgpro: the X by N shd garantee @H i think|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: more spades from west|pg||
nt|lml: a lot more it appears|pg||
nt|athene: hi|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Hello all|pg||
nt|stoffers: Rising with King best now|pg||
nt|stoffers: Hi there Denmark :)|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Sort of :-)|pg||
nt|ady: off beat pre-empt has caused havoc|pg||
nt|runnerup: here also a nt game sits|pg||
nt|bobholl: poor n will have to bid 3@H|pg||
nt|oosmanb: good question :)|pg||
nt|kit: This will lead to normal 3NT, likely headed down after heart leads|pg||
nt|ahollan1: versace lauria weren't that tough on defense to 5@C|pg||
nt|brgpro: so X by DUboin just showed extras|pg||
nt|ahollan1: italians use many DBL to just say  extras|pg||
nt|ahollan1: it didn't come up -- but for all of spec who play Drury --  what do you bid with South after  P-1@S?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Martel also had option of 2N to ask  min/max|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if hurd bids game now  it might push Martel to 5@S|pg||
mb|5D|nt|ady: no ok   north likely considered his hand to flat to look for anythin more than game|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 1nt opening is 14-16|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: but maybe N didnt like his distribution 3343|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and just bid 3nt|pg||
nt|kit: is this just club values or a game try?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Game try, I suppose.|pg||
nt|ady: 5@C  a make     5@S   a save non vul against vul|pg||
nt|ady: or 5@D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: some use 2@d from south to say no pref|pg||
nt|oosmanb: 10 tricks in 4@H for EW but importantly cant make 5@H|pg||
nt|rv: 1n|pg||
nt|brgpro: 1NT, what else? |pg||
nt|ahollan1: yes, 5@S does make on the @H finesse|pg||
nt|joest: hello all|pg||
mb|5S|nt|ron_sc2002: Pass is clearly forcing in this situation|pg||
nt|ron_sc2002: E with 6-5 will bid again|pg||
nt|ady: I meant for n/s   but e/w got there first|pg||
nt|boedhy:  And in that board we see the other site of Brink bidding a daring 5@c drove the opps to high|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: they are a very good pair never the less|pg||
nt|boedhy:  they are pleased with the way there are playing in the tournament so far ...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: so the Iceland team knew this would be a VERY VERY difficult match|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: why not 3@C instead of 2@H|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: = and so far they were absolutely right|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Skaftij types faster|pg||
nt|kit: Either way, West has easy 3@H call.|pg||
nt|hantveit: can they double again?|pg||
nt|bobholl: so 4@S is automatic over 4@H at this vulnarabilty|pg||
nt|bobholl: now sjoert wanted he had bid 5@C|pg||
nt|brgpro: now...from S's point of view, pd can have @s xxx @hKxxx @dAx @cxxxx which makes 6@C a great contract|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes the italians may end up in slam|pg||
nt|brgpro: but how can he develop|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hi Jack|pg||
nt|ahollan1: you've probably forgotten how to do written commentary now that you've gone over to voice|pg||
nt|joest: I've done voice only twice|pg||
nt|joest: anyway on this hand Martel seems compelled to bid 5S|pg||
mb|6D|nt|ron_sc2002: @S's are not breaking so it will go down|pg||
nt|athene: 5@C one down assuming they cash out correctly, but it's hard to get these hands perfectly right|pg||
nt|athene: east didn't think he had any defence at all so 5@H was not unreasonable|pg||
nt|athene: he didn't expect to be cashing two heart tricks against 5@C on this auction|pg||
nt|udo: diificult set of hands so far,,,,,,,,cold 6 @S diif to bid earlier,,,here 6@H on @C finesse|pg||
nt|odysseus69: next door North expressed his happiness|pg||
nt|ady: yes|pg||
nt|jbgood: even 2 down after perfect defense (2 club ruffs) will lose an imp for Sweden|pg||
nt|bt: well commentators all of us suggested @D bids, but he is the one playing the world championships so ...|pg||
nt|andyv:  1     ITALY  3582   NETHERLANDS 342    USA 2 3424   ISRAEL 314.35   USA 1 310.56   ICELAND 308.57   NEW ZEALAND 2998   CHINA 295.5|pg||
nt|brolucius: Swap West's black suits, so his K-Q were assisting partner's help-suit, and he might have gone to 4@H.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Levin said 3c was game try... and said I havent seen you rejecting a game try in 3 years loool|pg||
nt|kit: Declarer has limited dummy entries -- but if South leads a club that will make his life easier.|pg||
nt|gracelin: maybe due to the 5-card major.  Some still reject to open 1NT with a good 5-card M|pg||
mb|d|nt|famus: has to sac|pg||
nt|athene: versace's pass over 5@S clearly encouraging his partner to bid on|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: N has bid 6@s|pg||
nt|udo: sacrifice is successfull, but not so clear for me|pg||
nt|famus: EW different league--to say the least!|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and now Lauria thinking again|pg||
nt|udo: if he bids 6 @S,,wd|pg||
nt|star6ija: complicate decision for Martel|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Aronov will open 1N and Stefanov will bid  so  nobody stopping in 1N|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: looks like..he is thinking|pg||
nt|ady: 2@D down 1    but difficulty for north to do anything|pg||
nt|star6ija: no...Stefanov will pass|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kit -- does DBL now show 2@D?|pg||
nt|star6ija: they play 14-16 I think|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: stil thinking|pg||
nt|jbgood: Bermuda Bowl running scores: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|ady: 14-16 no-trump I am told so even more reason for north to just go to game|pg||
nt|brolucius: Always a good idea to bid NT as soon as possible with a balanced hand. Here North rebids 1NT to show 11-14.|pg||
nt|xenya: this looks like a normal 3N|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Weinstein: i almost bid it|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes but an ok spot has been reached|pg||
nt|anton72: verry pesimistic bidd here by E-W|pg||
nt|bobholl: s didn't double 2nt so pass quickly|pg||
nt|roswolf: the scientific 4NT IT SEEMS|pg||
nt|brgpro: what would be 4NT...that is the question...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and if you also have @HQ?|pg||
nt|joest: his partner did enter red vs. white and the opponents sound like they have a double fit.  and 5@s is cold with the heart finesse working|pg||
mb|p|nt|andersk: this should be another fast board for makeing maximum partscoore|pg||
nt|hlortz: good result ew in OR here |pg||
nt|xenya: EW in trouble now|pg||
nt|brgpro: slam try in @c?|pg||
nt|brgpro: looks like it|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: explanation is slam try|pg||
nt|brgpro: of course N declined it|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks Karen|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3@d showed @H so i am told|pg||
nt|brgpro: but will @sA coming up from E, he shd not misguess @d|pg||
nt|brgpro: with|pg||
nt|davidstern: All system cards here http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/docdefault.asp?page=BermudaBowl&start=c%3A%5Cinetpub%5Cwwwroot%5Cecatsbridge%5Cdocuments%5Cfiles%5CCon...|pg||
nt|davidstern: ventionCards%2F2011Veldhoven|pg||
nt|davidstern: Trys again http://tinyurl.com/6kqc5z4|pg||
nt|tez: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Netherlands/muller-dewijs.pdf|pg||
mb|p|nt|star6ija: I expected this bid|pg||
nt|xenya: a club lead beats 4@S...|pg||
nt|lml: I am going to guess that this hand wont be played that quickly|pg||
nt|fabsayc: when opponents have the ranking suit, show your second suit, when they dont is less important|pg||
nt|roswolf: nice brings both minors into the picture|pg||
nt|hantveit: yes, if he bids 4, I think boye will double|pg||
nt|bobholl: boy will have to choose ruff's or lead @C|pg||
nt|ady: 7@D  gains an imp|pg||
nt|kit: 3@C is puppet Stayman I believe|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 3d= not very good 4 card major or 5 card major|pg||
mb|p|nt|skaftij:  Only lived in Denmark last 31 years, being an Icelander|pg||
nt|boedhy:  well i think you want to be in 4@h with such strong @h|pg||
nt|skaftij:  a lot of bidding by EW, but this will make|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2N scramble?   i.e. no preference|pg||
nt|szalay: sure|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on 20  [3@HX]    Fredin 4@H undoubled|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: bertheau looking at lall and the X as if he is asking if it asks for a special lead|pg||
nt|pbundy: not sure where west could consider running - if indeed that's going through his mind|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Lall saying no|pg||
nt|hantveit: club to ace, club 4 to king and dia ?|pg||
nt|brgpro: 1 imps is an imp...|pg||
nt|nkgupt: 1imp save:)|pg||
nt|roswolf: 7@D is a bit OTT|pg||
nt|rv: well def, ruff with @ST|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now to see if they can maximize defense|pg||
nt|joest: well it has be with club ruffs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: unlike board 3|pg||
nt|joest: the other room did great to beat five three tricks|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ady: 3 clubs a possibilty   but not obvious for north with small values|pg||
nt|lml: North-south can set up a diamond for a club pitch now|pg||
nt|xenya: but naturally enough, a @D has been lead|pg||
nt|lml: Just to make it clear to a few who asked.  On a club lead you win the club and you cant set up diamonds fast enough|pg||
nt|lml: east-west keep leading clubs and will set up a trick before you can get a diamond discard going|pg||
nt|lml: on any other lead north-south can play diamonds first|pg||
nt|boedhy:  @s lead|pg||
nt|boedhy:  will make this |pg||
nt|boedhy:  the @h are also helpfull in 3nt offcourse|pg||
nt|boedhy:  1@s 4@h 2 in each minor|pg||
nt|runnerup: little under point -but makes like it is -something to play and bid|pg||
nt|brolucius: Oh yes, with 11 losers and x-x-x in the help suit?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: all laughing|pg||
nt|kit: I think declarer will use his one and only dummy entry for a club finesse.  That works, but he will have to lose 3 trump tricks for down 1.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: South thinking|pg||
nt|barnets: so you think it is right to give up on making the contract kit ?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: cards on the table|pg||
nt|kit: South has a problem here -- he can't be sure his partner has only 3 spades, unless they always bid higher with 4.|pg||
nt|barnets: rather than try to make it|pg||
nt|kit: why does that give up?  Can't somebody have Ax of hearts?|pg||
nt|barnets: yes Ax hearts is good enough|pg||
nt|anton72: i think W can continued with DBL over 2 @h|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if you are unfamiliar with screens    NE are on one side and SW on the other side of the divider|pg||
nt|ahollan1: all questions are directed to screenmated|pg||
nt|jbennet: must have been a misunderstanding here.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and  BOTH players alert partnership bids|pg||
nt|pbundy: i don't think that justin can even go wrong on the lead - vis a vis being able to beat the contract|pg||
nt|jbennet: x followed by pass should not be forcing. |pg||
nt|ahollan1: it sure looks like 2N was for minors|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2N wasn't alerted|pg||
nt|jbennet: therefore 2NT should not be natural but competitive for miors|pg||
nt|bobholl: i can only say it wins 1 imp probably but if w had bid 7@S :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or top level   http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2011netherlands/systems.asp|pg||
nt|ahollan1: vs 6@S  Brink led @C|pg||
nt|rv: easy for declarer|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the point was -- you can't bid 2@C if that guarantees a fit in partner's minor|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so you need to know how to describe a maximum pass with @C suit|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 6@c would have been much better >P|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that will get it done|pg||
pc|c7|nt|udo: parscore reached|pg||
nt|star6ija: he cannot afford to leave opps here as far as 2@d could be made as well as 3@cs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: correct   Aronov-Stefanov NT=14-16|pg||
nt|antoniz: +1 imp|pg||
nt|lml: a diamond lead makes it a piece of cake :0|pg||
nt|oosmanb: 4@h-3  in board 5?? Might be entered wrong|pg||
nt|bt: in the open room grue was very aggressive and paid a heavy price|pg||
nt|brolucius: The top 8 teams in the round-robin, at end of play tonight, will enter the quarter-finals of the knock-out stage.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: pairs need to define whether or not DBL creates force -- and if so, up to what level|pg||
nt|roswolf: a consercvative view by south|pg||
nt|ahollan1: versace led @H after MUCH different auction|pg||
pc|c8|nt|famus: wd--wonder whether the other room wud b pushed to limits|pg||
nt|athene: shouldn't be hard to find the diamond ruff|pg||
nt|athene: ok, might be harder now|pg||
nt|athene: lauria doesn't know his partner has quite so many clubs|pg||
nt|kemperg: sorry lost connection|pg||
nt|ady: taken the plunge     looks like 2 spade trricks and 2 diamonds     |pg||
nt|panosk: still talking about last hand privately sorry :)|pg||
nt|gracelin: anyway the 1S opening let them stop in time.  Seems to lose nly 1S, 2H and 2D, but maybe 1 3rd D.  Declarer shud have covered DK|pg||
nt|kit: Bathurst can't know for sure where jack of hearts is, but he will continue with queen anyway to make sure of knocking ace of hearts out of dummy.|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|lml: Baxter is heading to dummy for a diamond pictch on the heart  and a spade play|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: exactly!|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: so he does not have to take the @d decision|pg||
nt|lml: there may be a trump promotion on a diamond play now |pg||
nt|stoffers: Ah, nice|pg||
nt|lechcold: 11 lew jeli rozegramy kara przed kierami (konieczne z uwagi na blokadê kar)|pg||
nt|boedhy:  only problem is if somebody has 5@s so will hold up once|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: live scores back thanfully, see all matches here http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|runnerup: entryes are difficult |pg||
nt|skaftij:  This will need a @h guess at least|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Duboin and Hou showing each other the hands|pg||
nt|gracelin: club shift is most damaging now|pg||
pc|s3|nt|boedhy:  will make this |pg||
nt|boedhy:  still not working on my mac..|pg||
nt|brolucius: The team cominb 1st can choose their opponents from those 5-8. The team coming second has the next choice, etc...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: creative lead by Cornell|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: dbl by bertheau on 2@s would have been penalty he says|pg||
nt|ahollan1: seems to me most play DBL forces at 2-level|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but impossible to diagnose @C over @D without peeking|pg||
nt|joest: note that on the ace lead, a known singleton, Martel is giving suit preference|pg||
pc|s4|nt|athene: but still i think @DK shift is ok|pg||
nt|athene: if the @CQ got covered|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so maybe it will be 1N in the other room|pg||
nt|xenya: S had better duck this and see what happens|pg||
nt|roswolf: and found|pg||
pc|sA|nt|boedhy:  but with the @h 4-1 you better not be in 3..|pg||
nt|boedhy:  http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|oosmanb: I thought that would be flat at all 60+ tables|pg||
nt|fabsayc: with some restrictions, top four teams get to select their opponents from the other four|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|lechcold: 12 sry:)|pg||
nt|lechcold: bo Jassem puci|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: juz trzyma malego pika w reku...|pg||
nt|lechcold: ...pika, by stworzyæ rozgrywaj¹cemu jak¹ grobê|pg||
nt|odysseus69: what action over 3S? double or 4H?|pg||
nt|ady: would you not prefer double  than 4@H Victor  and then possibly bid  diamonds if partner responds clubs?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: kibitzer rightly suggests that West should think again when 4H is doubled|pg||
nt|boedhy:  this works on my computer|pg||
nt|skaftij:  a cunning low @s?|pg||
nt|brolucius: If you are 4th, you usually find yourself with some stiff opponents that none of the other top 4 wanted to face.|pg||
nt|kit: Well, this sure isn't what I expected|pg||
pc|c3|nt|bt: this is a soft result by ew but bidding game and making it was not in the cards|pg||
nt|brolucius: Can someone post the web-address for the ruinning scores?|pg||
nt|rv: on trump back, Bocchi will do well even to make 9 tricks, he will possibly play for @DAK doubleton (only chance)|pg||
pc|c4|nt|skaftij:  nope|pg||
pc|d2|nt|athene: @CK asked for count there i would imagine|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Should make comfortably|pg||
nt|jbgood: easy to go wrong in defense - but Fallenius thought it through|pg||
nt|hantveit: no rush to overtake club q as boye holds HK|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|stoffers: yes, will just make now|pg||
nt|ady: that at least gives a chance of reaching a good spot   or possibly 3@SX|pg||
nt|andersk: I dont think so, I looked at bidding and it seemes like Fredin Falleinus had a misunderstanding!|pg||
nt|oosmanb: oops|pg||
nt|jbennet: DD 3NT unbeatable.|pg||
nt|jbennet: but east doesnt know it. |pg||
nt|runnerup: east is worried that 1s are not 3-3 .that is one problems out of fju|pg||
nt|jbennet: awkward communication problems. |pg||
nt|jbennet: east doestn know that NS is unable to take 3 d tricks.|pg||
nt|jbennet: west..|pg||
nt|xenya: indeed -- if he cashes @CK now and crosses to @SQ to take two clubs, what will he discard from dummy? |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they made in the open room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: was he supposed to start @C firsr?|pg||
nt|yusufb: salvoda direktore bunlar kayda alýnsýn demiþ|pg||
nt|joest: now a low club back for a heart switch|pg||
nt|joest: a second suit preference signal|pg||
nt|ahollan1: should Stansby @H  now show count  or just ability to ruff another @C?|pg||
pc|h3|nt|athene: they play upside down|pg||
nt|ady: might make an overtrrick as it has gone|pg||
nt|ady: cards lay well for declarer |pg||
nt|lechcold: jak mi siê zdaje, Kalita móg³ po³o¿yæ graj¹c kiera w lewie drugiej!! to dlatego, ¿e N mia³ za mocne kiery:)) ale to by³oby zagranie dla nadcz³owieka|pg||
nt|andyv:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|bt: we have 5 teams battling for last two spots|pg||
nt|brolucius: Thanks to the kibs who sent me the link.|pg||
nt|xenya: so this appears to be a poor line|pg||
nt|jbennet: if he cashes club ace and enters hanf with sp Q then no make.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @S9 promised 10  [Rusinow]|pg||
nt|pbundy: nystrom can get up to 8 now ...|pg||
nt|jbennet: this is en axample why top pairs should emphasize NOT on slam bidding in undisturbed auctions, but to define thier methods in common competitive situations. suck as this one.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: nystrom asking how light 2@c can be|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: grue saying he does it on 'sick' hands|pg||
nt|pbundy: my guess is he is weighing whether or not to go for 8 tricks - or cash out|pg||
nt|ahollan1: almost always shows 13 cards|pg||
nt|pbundy: if the diamond is off - won't be pretty|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on 21  Fredin opens intermediate 2@S and plays there|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that was hand with the slow auction to perfecta 4@S|pg||
nt|jbennet: note that 2NT balnacing bid was well chosen enabling ew to find laydown 3 cl|pg||
nt|pbundy: a report from a relative of one of the players that they are declaring 2@S in the other room|pg||
nt|brgpro: i usually dont have a max pass, so i will never face that question...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in venice cup  Netherlands 29-0 this set  now trail France by only 5|pg||
pc|hK|nt|joest: count off this auction|pg||
pc|hA|nt|lml: so no problems now|pg||
nt|odysseus69: yes prefer double but I have become modern??? and play 4D=D and H|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|lml: it is terribly hard to see that a diamond would help from the south hand|pg||
nt|lml: declarer has a chance to make it even if south ducks the club as many you suggest|pg||
nt|lml: but probably wont|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: small @d lead would have been great by N|pg||
nt|lml: baxter can throw a club on the heart and guess diamonds|pg||
nt|lml: anyway this is now a push|pg||
pc|c5|nt|boedhy:  @d back costs a trick|pg||
nt|jbennet: good shot so far .|pg||
nt|gracelin: if he ruff spade first he can establish a spade winner to discard one of the losers.|pg||
nt|hantveit: -1 now|pg||
nt|rv: he needs to play @DJ and then @D9 pinning 8 and 7 to go 1 down|pg||
pc|c6|nt|wild card: in the other room, west raised his partner to 3NT immediately|pg||
nt|wild card: a good bid in my opinion although we can see 3NT won't make on this board|pg||
pc|d3|nt|xenya: now declarer "knows" @Ds are 3-3|pg||
nt|panosk: E will be worried momentarily about a @D ruff but he soon be relieved|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm also watching that room via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
nt|kit: The expected play. |pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|brolucius: New Zealand are the only real surprise in the top 8 at the moment. Well done to them.|pg||
nt|kit: If 4 diamond tricks would get declarer up to 9 he would have gone up king of clubs, but that only gets him up to 8.|pg||
nt|tomi2: would N duck a dia here?|pg||
mc|8|nt|star6ija: first blood US, unless Aronov steal 8th trick|pg||
nt|boedhy:  but with the @s with open is understandable otherwise you can see the 4 @h in hand|pg||
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qx|o7|st||md|1SKQJ953HADQ5CA973,ST742H973DAJ72CK5,SA8HKJ65DK9863CT8,S6HQT842DT4CQJ642|sv|b|nt|gavin:  was there discussion about the tempo of justin's suit preference signal ?|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: no discussion|pg||
nt|kit: oh -- I see your point.  But would declarer really find king play with Qx in hand?  Maybe he should, but I've never seen anybody do that.|pg||
nt|gavin:  and that was joe's statement ?|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: thats what Joe said |pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|gavin:  this bidding is not possible|pg||
nt|kit: Levin decided to commit the hand to game, and having done so he showed his length in case Weinstein had some magic fit.|pg||
nt|gavin:  an error somewhere in the auction|pg||
nt|kit: oh right -- surely Weinstein bid 3@S|pg||
nt|gavin:  a magic hand opposite a 2@S response ?|pg||
nt|gavin:  ya|pg||
nt|gavin:  thats what it looks like to me|pg||
nt|gavin:  south jumped to 3@S and north made a courtesy cue-bid|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h2|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|nt|kit: Is he really playing it this way?  That makes no sense at all|pg||
pc|d3|nt|davidstern: Does seem strange|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|d6|nt|warrens:  declarer didn't pitch a @C?  isn't there some danger of losing 3@C's and one @D?|pg||
nt|davidstern: As ten top tricks if you cash the @HK|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|kit: Well, I guess he has the club spots to guarantee 10 tricks if spades not 5-0|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c5|nt|gavin:  no danger of 3@C losers|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|gavin:  he has T987|pg||
nt|warrens:  did dummy have the 8?|pg||
nt|davidstern: Yes|pg||
nt|davidstern: @C10-8|pg||
nt|warrens:  ok, then it's safe|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d2|mc|10|pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1SKQJ953HADQ5CA973,ST742H973DAJ72CK5,SA8HKJ65DK9863CT8,S6HQT842DT4CQJ642|sv|b|nt|vugraphznv: "Nice bid" Versace says loudly to N // and Lauria agrees|pg||
nt|ady: looked like only 9 tricks as it went|pg||
nt|ahollan1: live scores  http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/livestream-wk-bridge-2011   remember to refresh screen to get updates|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: discussion in bulgarian|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i do not understand.... :(|pg||
nt|boedhy:  as you can see @d back not best defence|pg||
nt|boedhy:  another good result for Brink Drijver...|pg||
nt|ady: likely 4@H|pg||
nt|andersk: Falleinus probably tried to show equal length  majors, and passed 4 @H and Fredin probably took it as somethin else|pg||
nt|bt: for the british isles i can inform there is a rugby WC ... :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: This site allows you to look at the leaderboard in all three events (links at the bottom of the page:    http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|kamyk: gdyby to by³a @S D...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 6 boards in 75 mins is painfuly slow|pg||
nt|xenya: still down but only 1|pg||
nt|xenya: same idea|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Sorry, wrong claim at first|pg||
nt|roswolf: -3?|pg||
nt|bobholl: 1 down is good bridge|pg||
nt|nkgupt: isnt the S bidding (preempting) his hand in pieces....think always a bad policy|pg||
nt|brgpro: but now after this lead declarer knows the @s...must be AQ ( maybe the J ) by E|pg||
nt|roswolf: perhaps he shouldbe bolder:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not much of a guess after @S overcall|pg||
nt|brgpro: so he will surely guess the @d suit|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: They just explained 3@D was natural|pg||
nt|roswolf: how many tricks karen 11 or 12|pg||
nt|rv: well played|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Bocchi might have a future in this game|pg||
nt|brgpro: @d J was the right card but after that he had to guess|pg||
nt|rv: lol|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well judged auction by Martel-Stansby|pg||
mb|1S|nt|athene: smolen and 4@S i guess, here|pg||
nt|wild card: by staying somewhat lower, south africa gained 3 IMPs, getting the lead in this match|pg||
nt|barnets: that was a flat board same result in open|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: yes|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 11|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thru 4  USA2 over USA1 by 3|pg||
nt|brgpro: what would De Wijs open|pg||
nt|roswolf: ah ty|pg||
nt|ahollan1: PASS|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: losing 2 clubs and 1 diamond|pg||
nt|bt: not that u guys care about that|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@C=2+  and is forcing|pg||
nt|ady: very swing hands so far    but only 4 imps in it|pg||
mb|1N!|nt|rnmalik: 4@H a likely contract for NS and makeable as the cards are placed.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: however 5D should not escape from a double|pg||
nt|jbgood: very good result for the Aussies here|pg||
nt|boedhy:  The youngsters (ok 30) are among the top 5 in the world|pg||
nt|runnerup: 4 @s looks makeable but deeds some guesses|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: time penalties are looming in this room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=10-15 HCP, 2+@D    |pg||
nt|bobholl: 1nt 3nt i guess|pg||
nt|rv: most folks play 2@s here as Michaels|pg||
nt|brgpro: EW can make 5@s...but NS will surely save in @h...actually even 6@H is 500 only, could be a small gain...but i think 5@h mightta do the job anyways...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: the dutch pairs and italian pairs like to know both suits of 2-suiters|pg||
nt|rv: Blue Club @c O/Cs?|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznv: West noticed 4@S was cold last board|pg||
nt|boedhy:  are they in @h that plays better|pg||
nt|skaftij:  in OR, South had a heavy 2NT available, showing minors|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: another doubled contract made in the open room|pg||
nt|runnerup: spades must be handled -by odds ,but @h must be ducked once -and then you have chances|pg||
nt|hantveit: yes|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: it helps a lot if you know both suits|pg||
nt|brgpro: madala might try 5@c here, ( fit in one suit and values there)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Modified Ghestem|pg||
nt|rv: playing Blue @c or similar O/Cs, you sacrifice on 3 level minor preempts and show all variety of 2 suit O/Cs|pg||
nt|brgpro: this kind of fit showing bids helps a lot in high level decisions|pg||
nt|brgpro: personally i would surely try 5@C...|pg||
nt|brgpro: that can also scare them off the bidding|pg||
mb|3S|nt|athene: ok, some cunning system :)|pg||
nt|ron_sc2002: they play some convention here..but they will end in 4@S|pg||
nt|ron_sc2002: I am not really sure what 2@D is maybe forcing stayman|pg||
nt|lml: the spade bid will deter East|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am recording the rugby, so no scores, please.|pg||
nt|bt: and grue lall decided 7@C was good here|pg||
nt|brolucius: 30 points but the hands do not fit too well, and the cards lie poorly too.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: can't upgrade here because 3rd seat vul and 4th seat always 15-17|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D=@D   go figure|pg||
nt|bobholl: 2 only (2 imps carry over)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow   i was really wrong|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: the EW convention card just says stayman, transfers, 3x = shortness but obviously 2@D has some other possibilities|pg||
nt|ron_sc2002: madala allowed to play 4@C in the last board|pg||
nt|famus: til now in all their outings Italy has been on a rampage|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I guess Versace said to the whole table :)|pg||
nt|athene: north had a borderline double of 1@H|pg||
nt|jbgood: yes - since N had no entry to give prd a diamond ruff|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Ah de Wijs made an uptrick|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: they in NT also 1 imp|pg||
nt|boedhy:  looking at that scoreboard the first 6 temas are pretty save..|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Yes N 5@d doubled|pg||
nt|gracelin: Chicken, I expected 4S|pg||
nt|roswolf: so did i|pg||
nt|brgpro: nah...they play prec...|pg||
nt|rv: on Bocchi's 2n, here some play 4@h by East to show raise to 4@s with 1 defensive trick and direct jump to 4@s to show no defensive trick|pg||
nt|rv: that could help in 5 level decision for E-W|pg||
nt|brgpro: usually 4Nt can be the same but it implies @d fit and 5@C shd imply @h fit( in case they bid 5@s in front and N has to decide)|pg||
mb|4S|nt|ron_sc2002: so Italy is already in 20-0 after 6 boards|pg||
nt|athene: wow - not often you get pushed to 5major, go one down, and gain an imp|pg||
nt|athene: my guess is, east in the other room did not bid 4@H because he was worried about pushing opps into a making 5@C|pg||
nt|athene: but that is not usually a good strategy - better to assume opps will do/have done the right thing|pg||
nt|athene: that way at least you don't fall below par|pg||
nt|lml: so what do you like with east|pg||
nt|lml: seems like we have found the actual auction|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: now for east; what shall he do with 1@s bid in N?|pg||
nt|lml: still should east bid?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: thinking.......by E|pg||
nt|wild card: the four diamonds in the north hand make it liekly for partner to be short|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and you can see why in these 6 boards|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: przy okazji wyg³osi³em pogl¹d (nie do zrealizowania), ¿e cz³owiek najpierw powinien byæ dziadkiem  a dopiero potem ojcem |pg||
nt|garden2005: dzieñ dobry wszystkim :)|pg||
nt|kit: North will be thinking slam after this start|pg||
nt|ady: yes  2 imps   there was a 2 imp carry over|pg||
nt|brgpro: X=4+@s and pass denied 3?|pg||
nt|brgpro: 1NT must be some kind of @h raise|pg||
nt|brgpro: a good 2@H it looks|pg||
nt|roswolf: players are so awkward:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|wild card: four spades is not too far off actually|pg||
nt|rnmalik: AQ@C and @S Ace nicely placed. Key cards for the contract.|pg||
nt|jbgood: brb|pg||
nt|skaftij:  a @s lead did nothing to embarass declarer|pg||
nt|bt: aha rugby is tomorrow, the nz team hopes for bridge and rugby at that time|pg||
nt|xenya: another opportunity for NZ?|pg||
nt|roswolf: but this has scored a goal methinks|pg||
nt|gracelin: NS can make 6C if knows to drop Q, In reality, making 5C will be a solid result|pg||
nt|gracelin: and 3NT is equally good.|pg||
nt|roswolf: wow they might get there now|pg||
nt|mdgraham: rehi lost connx again :(|pg||
nt|bobholl: if you play gazilli you could pass now relxedly but now ??|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: you just must trust your teammates bid their cards properly|pg||
nt|lml: not surprised east thought|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: not a bad lead for n/s|pg||
nt|athene: is this pause him considering doubling now, or lauria considering doing something?|pg||
nt|athene: ok|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: it was Lauria thinking|pg||
nt|antoniz: czeæ Grzesiu:)|pg||
nt|jbennet: is 4 sp really makeable against best defence??|pg||
nt|hantveit: 9 tricks in closed|pg||
nt|bobholl: unlucky lead but reasonable|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=game force relay|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznv: that was a hesitating 3@S bid..|pg||
nt|udo: in 21 italy took all their tricks ( down 4) against this 2 @S,,and they played it doubled,,so another 12 imps|pg||
nt|ady: unsafe balance for north in my opinion|pg||
nt|xenya: at last an easy hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: looks like south bid 4N as to play|pg||
nt|boedhy:  ah there is some low level bidding|pg||
nt|brolucius: Oh, it's tomorrow.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, we are away for the week-end and I set the recorder.|pg||
nt|garden2005: mamy potencja³ i naboje?|pg||
nt|runnerup: now @h possition is clear -so helps to play|pg||
nt|gracelin: actually 4S maybe doubled for 800, but might also push NS into reaching a wrong contract.|pg||
nt|roswolf: it cant cost south to make one voluntary squeak ans bifddding 4@C gets them to the races|pg||
nt|roswolf: this certainly does|pg||
nt|joest: straightforward auction to a straightforward contract|pg||
nt|ahollan1: terrible choices for opening lead|pg||
pc|h3|nt|ady: east I feel only woth an invite opposite    but west would have accepted|pg||
nt|ady: is this also 14-16 no-trump Jan ?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 15-17|pg||
nt|oosmanb: board 6 has some interesting auctions at other tables|pg||
nt|andersk: Better cash he's 6 tricks, If he looses a club trick early he might go 4 down|pg||
nt|skaftij:  seems to North that his @s will not be pulling weight|pg||
nt|garden2005: no jak teraz @h? siê czuj¹|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: tak Grzesiu...niestety naboje co drugi lepy|pg||
nt|kamyk: chyba nieporozumienie: Gawrys przyj¹³, ¿e 3BA, to m³ode|pg||
nt|garden2005: Gawry móg³ daæ 4@s po 3NT, ¿e ma dwa kolory|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: w³¹snie Grzesiu s³yszysz wystrza³ lepym nabojem|pg||
nt|kamyk: to przyk³ad, co znaczy sta³a para - ona ju¿ tam kiedy by³a; para zestawiona nawet z dobrych graczy w trakcie przygotowañ wszystkiego nie zdo³a omówiæ|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@S is stronger than 4@S and promises some values (at least one control somewhere).|pg||
pc|h5|nt|star6ija: the law of the total trumps :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 6 trumps for NS...|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Hmm, can you concede tricks that you cannot possibly loose?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he wrote -100|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Don't know the law too well|pg||
nt|stoffers: Nor really, but operator or players watching arent to say anything |pg||
nt|xenya: you can make 6 here -- but you don't want to be there|pg||
nt|boedhy:  aggresive but controled bidding,  combined with perfect play and some luck :)|pg||
nt|ady: thx   15-17   but even so vould be facing a poor heart holding   west has a nice toppy hand with good hearts|pg||
nt|jbgood: Hi David and Lars! I can assure you that the kiwi team has the right focus on today's matches:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: seven would have been fine if south had diamond ace rather than KQ|pg||
nt|bt: how did england do? wales was 4th i think|pg||
nt|brgpro: i am surprised that W passed on 4NT...with his max 1@s opening...|pg||
nt|rv: 4n by Madala did scare Wijs:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: muller - de wijs play DBL in these situations as interest in bidding 5@s|pg||
pc|hT|nt|brolucius: When North cannot cue-bid in hearts, declarer will know of one hole in his hand.|pg||
nt|brgpro: this is already too high|pg||
nt|ady: looks 1 over the top|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: not many imps exchanged this set|pg||
nt|brgpro: they play prec @c, so he has a ceiling of his 1@s opening...|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|skaftij:  but...|pg||
nt|skaftij:  4 imps to Iceland probably|pg||
nt|fabsayc: even then is thin though with only 8 trumps|pg||
nt|brolucius: The text-books advise you not to bid a grand if there is any chance that the other room will miss the small slam. They also have some advice (I forget it at the moment) about how ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: many aces you need for a grand slam.|pg||
nt|garden2005: w ocenie od zg³aszaj¹cych mi na priv Kibiców, Gawry nie mai³ na 5@d|pg||
nt|runnerup: ok -partscore board ?|pg||
nt|jbennet: how is 4sp makeable?? |pg||
nt|skaftij:  1@c Relay Precision|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D looks like a checkback |pg||
nt|skaftij:  Sry|pg||
nt|gracelin: I don't see any reason declarer should guess to drop HQ doubleton offside.|pg||
nt|roswolf: impressive bidding judgment -truly World Class|pg||
nt|mdgraham: and the lead has changed|pg||
nt|bobholl: 2nt is best :)|pg||
nt|kit: on board 21 N-S bid slam off 2 aces, but defense missed the cash -- so match tied up|pg||
nt|szalay: whats your policy with 4333?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: lol..just said not many imps exchanged :)|pg||
pc|d5|nt|vugraphznv: Duboin picked 3 times the 3@S bid..|pg||
nt|famus: can he hit @cs?|pg||
nt|kemperg: EW play sound 1 openings|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2NT ask and Alfredo now bid 3NT, max no shortness|pg||
nt|lechcold: po tym ataku no problem|pg||
nt|odysseus69: notice that Zack did not get carried away and bid only 3S where others might have bid game|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: West trying to speed up, they are 2 boards behind|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: South sorry, think for being slow|pg||
nt|bt: anyway i think lall bid way too much at the other table|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i don't think it has come up yet   EW  1st discard = odd/even|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW leads  2nd/4th|pg||
nt|kit: I don't think South should be showing any encouragement -- he has a dead minimum 2@C opener|pg||
nt|brolucius: North thought he was too strong to sign off in 4@S, with two kings in his hand.|pg||
nt|barnets: playing 3N i open after south rebid 2N|pg||
nt|roswolf: italian flair patrick:)|pg||
nt|gracelin: let's see :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D=4+@D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: do you think any of the 12 table will lead @CK?|pg||
pc|dA|nt|stoffers: If one of the pairs finds out they will ofcource correct the score|pg||
nt|kit: This is a good example of control bid crazy, when controls aren't the problem.  Tricks are.|pg||
nt|barnets: and did not bid spades at all|pg||
nt|hantveit: I prefer @h|pg||
nt|hantveit: if you find partner with KQxx or KJxx in a major suit. It dos not really help you if it is @S|pg||
nt|bobholl: berry (westra) says 4th best from your longest :)|pg||
nt|hantveit: sounds like a wise guy :)|pg||
nt|brgpro: dont u think he needed to show that? at least X 4NT...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: maybe he didn't want to invite 5@s with his balanced hand|pg||
nt|brgpro: but as i said ealier...5@H does the job and even not doubled...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think they use DBLs to say  willing to bid 5@S opposite weak hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@S bid is very wide range|pg||
nt|brgpro: ok, but he surely wants to help pd to decide who is saving on this hand?|pg||
nt|rv: that is why I suggested, it is important to differentiate decent and pure pre-emptive @s raise,can use 4@h/4@s|pg||
nt|brgpro: 4@s is a practical bid, i do agree especially after a limited 1@s opening...but i do think W shd have Xed 4NT to tell pd about his max|pg||
pc|d3|nt|lechcold: silny trefl u Szwedów..dalej pewnie masa sztucznoci, których nie znam:(|pg||
nt|lechcold: ale skoñczy siê na 3BA:)|pg||
nt|lechcold: Panie 48:0 po 6 rozdaniach vs. Maroko:) mo¿e to oznaka prze³omu?|pg||
nt|lechcold: kierowy by³by morderczy|pg||
nt|boedhy:  NS can make 3@c tho|pg||
nt|xenya: well N had passed over 3@S -- no reason to be clever now i think|pg||
nt|brgpro: might well open 1@s and they will be overboard here|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|brolucius: You can see the other auction by putting your cursor over the Open Room result.|pg||
nt|bt: unless their firm agreement is that 5NT in all auctions is "pick a slam"|pg||
nt|runnerup: you lose 1 @s -1 @h -throw one to @c k -and 1 @c ofcause|pg||
nt|xenya: especially as he should know @Hs are likely to be 3-3 for his side|pg||
nt|brolucius: Now they surely stop in 5@S.|pg||
nt|roswolf: in practice this may well be the decisive hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: the first 6 bds have been full of drama|pg||
nt|bobholl: 2 chances to attack @D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C 5+5+|pg||
nt|joest: I would doubt it but it's possible.  AT least it's a theory about how to beat the hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: :)   Grue led @CK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: exactly right   seems best chance to beat the hand|pg||
nt|joest: this was a good play to lead a diamond up early on.   He can now make 11 tricks.  West didn't know enough about thehand to duck|pg||
nt|ahollan1: can specs name that coup?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yes  they ALL recognize Morton's Fork|pg||
nt|ahollan1: also a piece of cutlery at a famous steakhouse|pg||
nt|joest: I think from STansbys viewpoint this looks pretty hopeless. Dummy has a great hand opposite a 3@s jump rebid|pg||
pc|h7|nt|famus: a natural @s lead -wont get them anywhere|pg||
nt|ady: if this lead is from length the 9@C will ensure only 2 club losers  so the game depends on A@D right|pg||
nt|brgpro: my net is so slow...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@H=short @H|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm this looks very macho - tarzan at its best|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that's happening to me too Jack|pg||
nt|brgpro: so Muller might try 4@s|pg||
nt|brgpro: but i think they won't be doubled here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: for those peeking at auction from other room   vanProoijen 2@D=11-15 HCP, 5+@H 4+@D|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|vugraphznv: 3@H = 15+  5-5 , rest goes without saying|pg||
nt|stoffers: Duboin knowing about a diamondlooser now (no 4@d)|pg||
nt|lechcold: bardzo trafny rebid Gawrysia|pg||
nt|kamyk: gdyby Gawrys powiedzia³ zwyczajnie 2@D, to co sie licytuje z kart¹ E? Mówi¹c 1BA uproci³ rozdanie.|pg||
nt|ady: tricky defence here|pg||
nt|ady: need to win A@S   andplay 9@H|pg||
nt|odysseus69: looks like 9 tricks whatever defence does- cant get club ruff and 2 heart tricks|pg||
nt|boedhy:  alot of comment on this remark.|pg||
nt|bvdahl:  can't win this without help from defense|pg||
nt|kit: they should, but it is too high.|pg||
nt|bobholl: world champion 1993 :)|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|athene: protecting the @DK on the lead doesn't really help EW any|pg||
nt|jbennet: even if taking right view in spades and hearts no way to handle the 2nd heart loser. |pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry, i missed it    Fredin DID  DBL 3N on 22|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i don't know if NS play Smith   their CC doesn't really describe carding very well|pg||
nt|bobholl: i don't see a way to prevent 1 down|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other table starts  1@S-(2@S)-3@H|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: czy Volva produkowane pzrez Szwedów s¹ te¿ sztuczn¹ metod¹ robione?|pg||
nt|jbgood: may be a double game swing if he takes the heart finesse and finds the trump|pg||
nt|bt: anyway the ns auction at the other table was one of those toughies and they failed, it is good for my team so i am happy|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: tylko nie w pika|pg||
nt|garden2005: jedne z komentarzy do rozdania: "mia³ powiedzieæ 4@H  a jak P ma m³ode to przeniesie siê 5@C na 5@D  a tak to du,,,,,,,,! " :)|pg||
nt|garden2005: witamy Cezarego Balickiego :)|pg||
nt|garden2005: ech.... zasypalicie mnie ju¿ tyloma propozycjami innej licytacji G-K, ¿e nawet nie wiem która przytoczyæ ... ka¿da jest lepsza ni¿ ta co siê zdarzy³a|pg||
nt|brolucius: North would of course bid 6@S with the @SK.|pg||
nt|kit: Better I think to find out if you have strength for slam at 4-level and worry about controls at 5-level rather than other way around.|pg||
nt|barnets: would you rebid  2@S or 2N with south hand ?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Close.|pg||
nt|barnets: 2N is the winner|pg||
pc|c3|nt|lml: once south plays the clubs he now knows he has the contract|pg||
nt|kemperg: @D had been down|pg||
nt|athene: small trump, ducked, now?|pg||
nt|famus: got to switch @d second chance|pg||
nt|athene: then the defence retain control|pg||
nt|athene: if versace continues trying for club ruff they can go @CK, @HA, club|pg||
nt|udo: @D needed to beat this|pg||
nt|athene: a diamond shift works too yes|pg||
nt|farrukh: Both ways to beat it. Either @h duck or @d shift|pg||
nt|udo: yes,,,|pg||
nt|athene: in fact having the @HA gives the defence so much control, they can always prevail|pg||
nt|athene: even if they just give a tempo away with a spade, that is fine too|pg||
nt|athene: because then if versace played a club, north could play a diamond and later give his pd a ruff|pg||
nt|famus: Tahir thinking|pg||
nt|athene: and if versace plays a trump, north just DUCKS and that's the end|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: S asks Versace if he has shown 6@hs - and Versace tells him that he has shown that|pg||
nt|famus: @D cant be a losing option--even with @h K with pd|pg||
nt|athene: well, a diamond might be wrong sometimes|pg||
nt|odysseus69: well spotted David|pg||
nt|ady: got the first bit right|pg||
nt|odysseus69: might well find H9|pg||
nt|ady: still not that great a game even with a suitable hand with west|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: games that win are good games :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Here North was able to ask for key cards, so there was no problem. Sweden gained advantage from their spade pre-emption at the other table.|pg||
nt|kit: I agree close -- either could work out.  Probably 2NT a favorite on balance.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: North said : do not go down in 5|pg||
nt|kit: Granted 5@S somewhat unlucky to go down.  But with better bidding they wouldn't have been facing the bad luck.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Give North the other black jack and it would be not so bad.|pg||
nt|hantveit: sounds like an old wise guy|pg||
nt|roswolf: italy bid game ,got doubled in the other room|pg||
nt|brgpro: Muller is hoping to see @cA in dummy...he is hoping...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: what does Duboin lead on this auction where Muller bid NT opposite known shortness??|pg||
pc|cK|nt|athene: for example if partner has the @DA and you need to set up a spade and have declarer misguess diamonds?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Moysian fit = 4-3   is this Mini-Moysian  or is that 4-2 fit|pg||
nt|roswolf: a swing of 25/26 imps |pg||
nt|hantveit: :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: seems normal|pg||
pc|c8|nt|famus: wud he duck???|pg||
nt|ady: 1 trump out of the way|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|stoffers: 6 (lucky) imps to Iceland on bd21, they take what they get against opponents like this|pg||
nt|boedhy:  think i wouldnt have passed with north although i opened light|pg||
nt|barnets: yes the @CJ needs to be a spade|pg||
pc|s4|nt|athene: nowhere to put the diamond losers anyway|pg||
nt|athene: hard to find that duck|pg||
nt|famus: swing|pg||
nt|kemperg: he knows @CA with partner, so @DA on leader|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: ju¿ wiem ¿e Volvo produkuje siê teraz w Chinach, wiec na pewno sztucznie|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Sorry everyone I must leave now, thanks to all the organizers|pg||
pc|s8|nt|ahollan1: on  6 the auction was 1N-all pass|pg||
nt|star6ija: Karaivanov would be surprized realizing that Trendafilov still is not shorter in trumps than him|pg||
nt|jbgood: but still a big gain for Australia|pg||
pc|s6|nt|athene: actually maybe it was not that hard|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|runnerup: maybe -too dfficult -because rigth 2 @s to defence|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|nt|lml: he can probably afford a heart now for the uptrick ... we know it will work|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: S had @s 4 in his hands to play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on  6   Muller in 2N|pg||
nt|barnets: this is a big swing for usa|pg||
nt|brgpro: mightta go 2 down if madala decides to play E for @dK10|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but if DBL shows extra offense, then West hand can't do that|pg||
nt|rv: he might play for @dkt doubleton with East|pg||
nt|rv: restricted choice and go 2 down|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: problem with dbl as they play it, is that you cannot show interest in doubling opps|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: in return you can find good saves when you have an offensive hand|pg||
nt|brgpro: so, in this case..the traditional way works|pg||
nt|rv: that is why Muller's bid can't be so wide ranging|pg||
pc|cA|nt|brolucius: East was unable to read the opening lead of the @S9.|pg||
nt|xenya: think i'll get coffee|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we know nothing about East hand except he wants to play 3N opposite 5152 / 5053|pg||
nt|roswolf: this will be slaughter|pg||
nt|ahollan1: deWijs might have pulled with 56|pg||
nt|brgpro: he was hoping to see @cAx...|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|famus: Tahir must b cursing himself for not switching @ds--this is turning into a rout|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Better :-)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: yes sorry|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not that it matters.|pg||
nt|bt: decl has 12 easy tricks now and a bundle of imps to sweden|pg||
pc|c7|nt|athene: if his partner has the @DA, the contract is always dead|pg||
nt|ady: should be in game   but I dont feel east should be the one to deccide if there an invitational method|pg||
nt|brgpro: like the poker players yelling on the river: @cA please! one time!|pg||
nt|roswolf: never play me for the perfect hand i never have it - applies here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i was just mentioning since East @C suit could have been @H on this auction|pg||
pc|h9|nt|lml: or a spade|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: nice play|pg||
nt|udo: i think he should find the duck,,,he knows @D are running most of the time|pg||
nt|lechcold: prawdopodobnie Szwedzi nie byli w stanie zbadaæ co maj¹ w treflach|pg||
nt|runnerup: so no attack to Nyström for pushing ns to game|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: director in the room ....we will not finish all the boards i think|pg||
pc|sA|nt|boedhy:  but then west at some point would have bid his @s and making 3 is no problem so think this will be a push|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: s³owem wylosowali z³¹ sekwencjê sporód wielu lepszych|pg||
nt|ady: will need to untangle the spades|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i think i missed somethink|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: something|pg||
nt|brolucius: It may all hand on the meaning of 3NT. If that is serious or non-serious, that would effect how strongly North should bid - whether he was worth going past 4@S with his second ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: king.|pg||
nt|kit: If declarer believed king of spades is singleton he might have had a double-dummy line to make on trump end-play.  But Levin could easily play king from Kx.|pg||
nt|joest: so back to making four and a push|pg||
nt|ahollan1: after all of that  @HK never takes a trick|pg||
pc|h6|nt|brolucius: On a lucky day you would make 6@S; today you go down in 5@S.|pg||
pc|h8|nt|athene: and if declarer has the @DA, it is clear that playing ace and another trump just releases control and allows the diamonds to run|pg||
nt|ady: club ruff coming soon|pg||
nt|ady: needs to ruff high|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup cant understand why he didnt draw a 2nd round of trumps|pg||
nt|ady: if they are in a position to draw a 3rd round would go down   had not developed enough tricks|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d2|pg||
nt|athene: this is very often a problem for the defence - whether to draw trumps or not|pg||
nt|lml: declarer in 4@H makes an easy 5 |pg||
nt|barnets: like the belladonna hand v Kantar|pg||
nt|roswolf: wd|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer is one trick short to exercise the show-up squeeze, when West need to keep his D and discard one Heart.|pg||
nt|roswolf: declarer will get a coubt on the hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: count|pg||
pc|sK|nt|athene: when declarer is trying for a ruff but has a threatening side-suit as well|pg||
nt|athene: and underleading or ducking the ace of trumps is often the key|pg||
nt|ady: diamond play has helped declarer|pg||
pc|s2|pc|d6|nt|roswolf: this will lose imps|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|star6ija: this appear to be dreat swing for Bulgaria|pg||
nt|star6ija: great*|pg||
nt|barnets: in the final  |pg||
nt|brolucius: Kamil rebid 2NT to win a big swing.|pg||
nt|barnets: when Kantar could have played the K from kx|pg||
nt|barnets: in 7@C|pg||
nt|barnets: very similar idea|pg||
nt|barnets: well spotted|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|boedhy:  but west would have bid @s so this will be a push i think|pg||
nt|hantveit: woul it not be better to play hearts at once, while you still had club communication?|pg||
nt|roswolf: when it might not have if declarer just accepted his fate|pg||
pc|s7|nt|ady: not good this   vul|pg||
pc|d8|mc|10|nt|ahollan1: sorry  i tried to go down, but couldn't|pg||
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qx|o8|st||md|2SA874HQ8765DQ92C8,SKT95HJ92D53CQT63,SJ2HTDAKT8764C952,SQ63HAK43DJCAKJ74|sv|o|nt|gavin:  a plus score for levin and weinstien|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|mb|d|nt|gavin:  a classic 3@D bid |pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|nt|kit: seems like 4@D about right on Weinstein's hand|pg||
nt|davidstern: What should East do now|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin:  ew would need to lead a trump to reduce the   of club ruffs taken in 5@DX|pg||
mb|d|nt|kit: East will certainly double again|pg||
mb|p|nt|davidstern: And wind up in no good place|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|kit: And get to an ugly 4@S contract|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|davidstern: Tick|pg||
pc|hT|nt|gavin:  doesnt seem like that bad of a contract|pg||
nt|kit: But just because it is ugly doesn't mean it won't make|pg||
nt|gavin:  4@S looks like it has better chances than 5@C|pg||
nt|davidstern: Funnily enough that lead helps declarer a little|pg||
nt|kit: it does?  why?|pg||
nt|davidstern: If declarer wins and plays a spade what should South do|pg||
nt|gavin:  surely south should and will duck|pg||
nt|kit: duck if he is hoping to take 4 tricks.  What else?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|gavin:  holding 4 trumps , weinstein well aware that ew could only have 7 spades|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|gavin:  he will want to keep control of spades|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|nt|davidstern: He knows that they could be in 4-3 fit|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|kit: he knows that if 5-3 fit defense has no chance|pg||
nt|kit: Now stiff club back, and defense gets their ruffs.  Easy.|pg||
nt|gavin:  he can see a heart ruff will be futile|pg||
nt|gavin:  or is it|pg||
nt|gavin:  they get their ruff , and just play a diamond |pg||
nt|kit: heart ruff will work as Weinstein then ducks 2 rounds of spades -- but club back more efficient.|pg||
nt|gavin:  then eventually weinstein ducks |pg||
nt|gavin:  the ace of spades until he can tap declarer with another diamond|pg||
nt|davidstern: It really depends on what South's view is of 4-3 versus 5-3 fit|pg||
nt|kit: South knows it is 4-3 fit -- if 5-3 fit, declarer would have drawn trumps and claimed.|pg||
nt|gavin:  if 5-3 declarer would still need to play a diamond|pg||
nt|gavin:  or want to anyhow|pg||
nt|kit: Declarer would surely play 1 round of trumps if 5-3 fit|pg||
nt|gavin:  Stansby and Martel correctly competed to 5@S and Hurd-Wooldridge bid one more to 6@D on board 6|pg||
nt|gavin:  and they also found the best defense to beat it for 800 and pull 7 imps back|pg||
nt|davidstern: Same contract this board CR|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|nt|gavin:  levin's 2 of clubs might confuse weinstein|pg||
nt|kit: Weinstein wondering why declarer didn't take his diamond ruff.  I'm wondering also.|pg||
nt|davidstern: Sorry they arent up to this board looking at wrong match (my bad - tired)|pg||
nt|gavin:  he was probably looking for a suit preference signal|pg||
nt|gavin:  and the deuce of clubs may suggest to him that north may have either only 1 spade or 2 hearts|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|gavin:  north already got to signal with the ten of diamonds under the queen|pg||
pc|h6|nt|warrens:  what did the 10 of @D tell him?  wasn't that suit prference?|pg||
pc|h9|pc|sJ|pc|h3|pg||
nt|davidstern: Running scores both BB matches at http://tinyurl.com/3bhk2vr|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|s4|pc|c3|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SA874HQ8765DQ92C8,SKT95HJ92D53CQT63,SJ2HTDAKT8764C952,SQ63HAK43DJCAKJ74|sv|o|nt|famus: in fact Versace had induced or was trying for Def to lead a trump--and succeded|pg||
nt|ahollan1: "maybe" was as optimistic as i get|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Many would certainly bid 2NT GF and @S support in response to 1@S, but the Italian methods are different|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Yes the Italians took about everything in first 4 matches|pg||
nt|lechcold: st¹d kontrakt 4@H, który z³ego (dobrego dla nas) dnia móg³ nie wychodziæ|pg||
nt|antoniz: 3NT|pg||
nt|ady: Israel building a useful lead|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: the table is given extra time, but even with that they are slow|pg||
nt|psyck:  NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Sweden/bertheau-nystrom.pdf|pg||
nt|boedhy:  But i can tell you they are in the top maybe 6 or 7 offcourse depending on how you count|pg||
nt|ady: Iceland got 10 imps on hand 5   4@S X   here   3 @S  n 1 in OR  undoubled|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Told it twice for both tables to hear|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i could swear that i saw the clubs 6 on the spade king|pg||
nt|brolucius: The England women (who are doing so well) had a poor moment yesterday, losing to bottom team (Trinidad & Tobago). I see they have got their act together again this morning , ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: leading the Netherlands 31-14 at this early stage.|pg||
nt|bt: the other room does not hit a lot of fairways, to talk golf|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes the @S overcall and preempt set a tough problem for |pg||
nt|fabsayc: i must admit i dont understand the closed room auction|pg||
nt|brolucius: The QFs are 64 boards, Kit?|pg||
nt|kit: 96 boards|pg||
nt|ady: 1 imps for China|pg||
nt|roswolf: CHINA SMIE|pg||
nt|roswolf: SMILE|pg||
nt|gracelin: Did all these really happen?  West keep his DQ, and north knowing West still has the DQ, to finesse ?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Bocchi didn't like that|pg||
nt|roswolf: as a apec says wonderful bid ,sorrowful end|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i don't know, they played so fast,  just could keep up with dummy and Bocchi|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: toiletbreak now. brb|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and everybody is back again|pg||
nt|hantveit: sorry, my d on my keyboard is bad|pg||
nt|bobholl: @H and @S score alike|pg||
nt|roswolf: the dutch may come to rue those 3 imps|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if one method was right 100% we'd only have 1 method|pg||
nt|rv: well guessed|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: de Wijs now saying he could not dbl now|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznv: because of the director call they got extra time|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: no 4@h bid from Stefanov as Jorgensen did here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 10-15 HCP, 5+@S|pg||
nt|brolucius: Ah, a good distance.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D as before  bal, 5minor 4Major|pg||
nt|ahollan1: good12-15|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: but Weinstein opens 1N!!|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Board 22:  Duboin Sementa did not hear , wrote 110 ,  Bjarni  now also 110 :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: from italy's point of view they want the bds to run quiet|pg||
nt|bobholl: missing the @D fit now i guess|pg||
nt|hantveit: precision 2 @c bob?|pg||
nt|roswolf: a great advert for the game|pg||
mb|1C|nt|andersk: 6@C is makeable here|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Dubion thinking about the 3@h bid|pg||
nt|andersk: even easier to make after the overcall|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: has not alerted it yet|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: S has passed without asking|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: but probably he layed them in the same time very fast|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: played|pg||
nt|hlortz: n/s to cope with|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=non forcing|pg||
nt|ahollan1: up to 12 HCP|pg||
nt|pbundy: i do find it interesting watching virtually all these matches how the standards for opening bids have been lowered dramatically|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'll only paste this once|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H=a) 5+ HCP, 4+@H  b) any FG that wants/must RELAY  c) 0-5 HCP, 3+@H unwilling to pass 1@D  d) "BAL G/T vs NT-hand w/2-3@H & 2-3@S"|pg||
nt|pbundy: somewhere, al roth is rolling around, as they say :)|pg||
nt|bobholl: guess so :)|pg||
nt|hantveit: will north find the power to double again?|pg||
nt|bobholl: and has s the bravery to pass than ?|pg||
nt|roswolf: preempting to the limit|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Hurd didn't open????|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: slam chances on this deal|pg||
nt|pawel90:  3NT - czemu majÄ od razu w pika wistowaÄ?|pg||
nt|gracelin: my guess is West has keep two H and Bocchi naturally finessed.|pg||
nt|roswolf: more mundane hand|pg||
nt|brgpro: one way or another...they have to find a way to show pd that our side is not trying to mixed the water...they are!|pg||
nt|brgpro: mixed up|pg||
mb|1S|nt|athene: NS play a mini notrump NV 1,2,3 so 1NT not an option|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Can EW bid and make 6@C?|pg||
nt|lechcold: cztery pasy raczej niemo¿liwe na drugim stole:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: DBL=takeout of @S|pg||
nt|szalay: semiforcing, probably|pg||
nt|ady: routine 3NT for n/s|pg||
nt|joest: surprised|pg||
mb|2D|nt|ady: may get too high here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: after 1N-2@C//2@H-2N   does he pass or try 3@H?|pg||
nt|antoniz: cztery pasy to ¿art?|pg||
nt|pawel90:  moÅ¼e sedzia zdjal rozdanie?|pg||
nt|psyck:  EW: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2011Veldhoven/BermudaBowl/Israel/barel-zack.pdf|pg||
nt|psyck:  Results & Live Scores: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|panosk: thx CK|pg||
nt|psyck:  Israel 4th & Sweden 9th as per current running scores|pg||
nt|hantveit: looks like 3 clubs is hard to make.|pg||
nt|bobholl: @C lead and 4@H down|pg||
mb|2H|nt|star6ija: drury?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry  yes 2@C=Drury  3+ fit|pg||
nt|lml: 1NT is of course the weak variety|pg||
nt|lml: I think South will bid ...what do you think|pg||
nt|xenya: S may well get in now|pg||
nt|lml: I say this from there style|pg||
nt|lml: their|pg||
nt|psyck:  The Results site occasionally goes down due to load, just keep trying later (it worked for me now)|pg||
nt|boedhy:  good defence again on the last board by the way|pg||
nt|boedhy:  2@s pp d p2nt 3@s all pass|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I just have been asked to turn off the heat again|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: "Super" said Brink / and started singing "Super Trouper" -- "is that from Iceland" he then asked :)|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Yoou must ask Drijver if his hormons are bothering him :)|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: :) Jan being worked hard'|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: No its not -- its from Sweden -- ABBa|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and then S continues singing --- I think he is a better bridgeplayer than singer|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I cant see exactly what Duboin wrote|pg||
nt|brolucius: The young USA2 team is some 30 VPs ahead of USA1.|pg||
nt|bt: sweden might play 3@C in both rooms here|pg||
nt|bt: which is generally a bad concept|pg||
nt|runnerup: good 6 @s -with tricks not so many points -and sing @c -agains Ace -so a very good -unbeatable one|pg||
nt|vahaboglu: @cJ ataðýn blokasyonu mu olur|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm  was that a little chicken?|pg||
nt|joest: opened 3@d at the other table which bullied east-west into 4@s|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: likely to play 5@c now|pg||
nt|joest: Martel elects to reverse the hand naturally|pg||
nt|joest: 5@c will depend on guessing the @SJ|pg||
mb|3D|nt|athene: and the italians don't like 1NT with a 5-card major, for some reason|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D=a) some game interest  b) mild slam try|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: South writing explanations|pg||
nt|ady: 2 level high enough|pg||
nt|antoniz: oby nie szlemik na impasie Damy trefl|pg||
nt|lml: wrong again ... shucks|pg||
nt|ady: but not neccessarily making     lay out bad|pg||
nt|bobholl: strange pass |pg||
nt|ady: club lead to beat 4@H   can get 2 ruffs |pg||
nt|joest: Al do you know whether Martelcould have made a support double here?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: since they play weak NT, they don't really use Support DBL anyway   I think DBL would show strong NT|pg||
nt|joest: I ask because they play weak NTs and I wonder how they would show a strong NT on this sequence|pg||
nt|joest: ok thx|pg||
mb|4C|nt|ahollan1: 2@H would be strong game interest, nothing about @H|pg||
nt|star6ija: 2@d shows maybe normal openning... or long suit game try|pg||
nt|ady: e/w   busy here|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: the bulgarians like the red cards|pg||
nt|ady: as usual   honor 10 of  suit in dummy when leading the Queen|pg||
nt|panosk: key place is 8th that leads to quarterfinals but its early to say|pg||
nt|boedhy:  no spade lead.... |pg||
nt|skaftij:  It is quite a task, both to operate and to comment, you are doing a great job Jan|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i was wondering why he did not discard the heart loser and looked into his hand and was missing lol|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: all bids are alerted|pg||
nt|gracelin: China recovered 13 imps on the hand EW stopped in 3NT with their 30 HCP after south opened 1S.  Italians went down in 5C in other room.|pg||
nt|jbennet: again agressive auction EW will now lose their laydown 4 sp (or 5d)|pg||
nt|kit: If Levin reopens with a double, this will be the contract.|pg||
nt|joest: once partner reverses, he's known to have five clubs which gives Stansby a pretty clear 4@c call here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry   my keyboard is locking up   so some input gets delayed|pg||
mb|4D|nt|stoffers: Good operator, thx|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: also without saying, so i'll change now that he has 110|pg||
nt|stoffers: Yes, wd|pg||
nt|wild card: if they bid it, I guess they'll make|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i am not Jan loool|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: móg³ te¿ jedna lewê uratowaæ w rozgrywce|pg||
nt|ady: diamond lead especially   with major high cards badly places   not easy|pg||
nt|roswolf: in which case after the last hand here the match is suddenly tight with 40 bds to go|pg||
nt|bobholl: even DD i can't see a normal way |pg||
nt|brgpro: how can the cards be more friendly here...@d3-2...@dJ on and both @hQj on...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Ace asks for attitude|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and 4@S clear|pg||
mb|4S|nt|lml: the hands fit well for a heart slam ... but spades will make too on the break|pg||
nt|lechcold: vugraf nam powie co siê sta³o |pg||
nt|ryskiel_: nie podniecajcie siê, na pewno nie nast¹pi³y 4 pasy|pg||
nt|lechcold: miejmy nadziejê|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: probowalam napisac do vugrapha na drugim stole, ale nie jest zalogowany|pg||
nt|psyck:  Italy, Netherland, USA2 the top 3|pg||
nt|panosk: 6@H or NT are both cold the thing is to be there|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and with the way Drijver played his @h telling his partner he had a trick in @c|pg||
nt|oosmanb: wow probably 6@C now|pg||
nt|andersk: good bidding here. |pg||
nt|xenya: Sweden and NZ are currently neck-in-neck, with Japam trailing by 1VP|pg||
nt|mdgraham: it does indeed look as if Dhondy's 2@d (after 1@c-1NT) was spades and another - if so, that would explain Senior's 2@s, if not why she didn't bid 2@h en route|pg||
nt|anton72: Dhondy bid 2 @c ....|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: sorry|pg||
nt|joest: I'm not sure I understand the point of 4@d,other than perhaps to take a cue-bid away|pg||
nt|joest: maybe it suggests a save|pg||
mb|p|nt|wild card: but after this start that will be too hard|pg||
nt|xenya: in the other room, NS pushed EW to the 3-level|pg||
nt|kit: Levin's aggressive preempt keeps N-S out of spades -- but that is good for N-S.|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@D did its work.|pg||
nt|kit: But still probably unable to make 3NT.|pg||
nt|mdgraham: very good result for England next door|pg||
nt|pbundy: there seems to be some misunderstanding here - no?|pg||
nt|brgpro: pass...i won't but it is a good judgement here with the @c ruff coming, 4@h is -1|pg||
mb|5C|nt|star6ija: do they?|pg||
nt|ady: well stopped|pg||
nt|jbgood: another imp for the overtrick|pg||
nt|skaftij:  :-)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Jan is in the open room|pg||
nt|szalay: trump|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2nd/4th leads mean  LOW from worthless doubleton|pg||
nt|szalay: to be honest small trump is the best lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: clarification just in case other North Americans are in the room|pg||
nt|bobholl: despite the unlucky lead this won't make|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: EW made it easy to stay low|pg||
nt|star6ija: why then they did not use them during the previous board :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: lol..i think they discussed it|pg||
nt|star6ija: yes sometimes the silence is golden|pg||
nt|skaftij:  1NT = 14-16|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: aha, interwencja sedziowska|pg||
nt|lokaty: z³e rozdania by³y i sêdzia przy stole naprawia b³¹d|pg||
nt|antoniz: dziêkujemy:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: aha, kibic mowi, ze pomieszaly sie rozdania 8 i 9|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Drijver is only 30 but he was old when he was 20....|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Your profile says otherwise|pg||
nt|antoniz: dwie|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3@d aldo suggests a singleton somewhere|pg||
nt|bobholl: very inspired pass by sjoert|pg||
nt|brgpro: now a @s for -2|pg||
nt|szalay: 3 down is possible yet|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: a hard slam to reach but I thought they might|pg||
nt|lml: south has to do something other than 4@h I suppose|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: too difficult to find out that either of them has enough entries|pg||
nt|brolucius: Lars, you have any idea of how/why West should bid 3@C? Did he pull the wrong card from the box?|pg||
nt|hlortz: yes sweden had a misunderstanding looks like 2@H/1@D[precision] was michaels as many play 2@D/@d as natural |pg||
nt|bt: they play some 2 Major jumps as 4 of that suit and a longer minor|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2@H showed hearts and another suit or at least that is what west thought|pg||
nt|bt: west played that convention|pg||
nt|brolucius: Usually best, I find, to treat 1@D as natural initially - even if it may be short.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Clever of the US North to keep quiet on his amazingly good clubs.|pg||
nt|bt: they only played together for 10 yrs, har to get (1m)-2M right :)|pg||
nt|bt: hard|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer ducks to break communications between West and East.|pg||
nt|kit: In other room Fleisher violated and opened 1@H on the strong 4-card suit -- to his regret, as he wound up in 3@H.|pg||
nt|anton72: verry bad lead by E ...but result is perfect for ENG|pg||
nt|mdgraham: of course, 4@hx would not have been so hot without the 2-2 trump break|pg||
nt|kit: Looks like down at least 2 -- the third undertrick will be the fight|pg||
nt|szalay: fight with Diamonds|pg||
nt|davidstern: The @DJ onside sort of - either way finesse|pg||
nt|davidstern: I will make one statement - he wont go down here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: CC just says  2@C=Stayman :(|pg||
nt|davidstern: 2@D just denied four spades|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: one of the good things about passing is that you are not defending 4@S|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Anders we spoke too soon|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: ends in 5@s|pg||
nt|xenya: now it should make|pg||
nt|pbundy: perhaps grue thinks 2@C shows diamonds?|pg||
nt|jbennet: but on the other hand...|pg||
nt|jbennet: 12 tricks available in clubs.|pg||
nt|szalay: like a south african match:)|pg||
nt|davidstern: Sorry denied 4@H could have 4@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: after failure to open any number of @D   who knows what Hurd implies with this sequence :(|pg||
pc|d2|nt|ahollan1:  7  Weinstein in 2N West|pg||
nt|boedhy:  So his hormons could be bothering him|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: what do you mean?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: do you see my profile as Jan?|pg||
nt|kit: At both tables E-W were temporarily in 3@D whih doesn't make.  But very difficult for N-S to know that.  That is why preempts can be effective.  Even when they seem to get you to a ...|pg||
nt|kit: bad contract, they can still work.|pg||
nt|barnets: if east shifts a club dec may make the hand|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer will play for hearts 4-2, because of the 3@D bid, which leaves West with more non-diamonds than East.|pg||
nt|kit: How can it ever make?  4 hearts, 1 diamond, 1 clubs, 2 spades at most I think.|pg||
nt|barnets: by takiing 4 heart tricks|pg||
nt|brolucius: Looks like it.|pg||
nt|barnets: and enplayinq west in spades|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Then 2@C showed @C + @S|pg||
nt|ady: made in OR    chance for China|pg||
nt|gracelin: I don't see 6H making on this one.|pg||
nt|roswolf: north doing a lot of bidding - i would have given up on slam long ago|pg||
nt|gracelin: he does have a standard 2 opening and south gave a raise.|pg||
nt|gracelin: also some sign of life with the 3NT bid (rather than 4H).|pg||
nt|jbennet: 11|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on 22 looks like Hurd will be down 2 in 3NX|pg||
nt|pbundy: even with a diamond out and a spade switch?|pg||
nt|jbennet: and only 10 if defence attack spades when being on lead|pg||
nt|brgpro: to pick up J 4th in @d, he will have to finesse W|pg||
pc|d3|nt|vugraphznv: podobno na drugim stole tez zagrano 3nt w tym rozdaniu|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php   chêtni do ogl¹danie wr¹¿eñ wzrokowych mog¹ je zaspokoiæ...tylko pod tym linkiem, tylko pod tym....parafrazuj¹c znany zwrot|pg||
nt|pawel90:  3BA to Åredni kontrakt|pg||
nt|lml: I think Stansby can hold his losers to 3 black cards|pg||
nt|ady: of to the best lead|pg||
nt|roswolf: a test of south's cardplay|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: :) I think he can play|pg||
nt|roswolf: yu|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
nt|roswolf: fine judgment you mean:)|pg||
nt|rv: interesting defense and play problem|pg||
pc|dK|nt|barnets: for 3 spade tricks|pg||
nt|ady: defence started a diamond   but after a losing spade finess  switched to a heart   and now they lost their way|pg||
nt|bobholl: i am satisfied with -1 :)|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|xenya: which makes no difference as the cards lie|pg||
nt|lml: throwing a heart from dummy on a diamond|pg||
nt|xenya: right|pg||
nt|davidstern: 2NT then denied both majors|pg||
nt|rv: @d suit well placed for 4 tricks, Wijs should prevail if he reads cards well|pg||
nt|brgpro: a snicky @s10...declarer has to decide whether this is a true card or not|pg||
nt|rv: yes|pg||
nt|joest: once Hurd plays the diamond king, he has pretty much located the spade ace|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|nt|star6ija: so, 4 or 5 IMPs to Bulgaria|pg||
nt|ady: might  make 9 tricks |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: the auctions are exausting...lol|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: durector got bored and left|pg||
nt|runnerup: time is limited = -next -easy for these guys|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he will be back for sure|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he was timing the players|pg||
nt|joest: he would not pass as dealer with AKxxxxx of diamonds and the spade ace|pg||
pc|h5|nt|bobholl: @D are very unlucky|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Jack -- what do you think about CC not giving this type of very unexpected information?|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|boedhy:  http://www.bridge.esp.br/player/joaopaulocampos.php profile form teh brasilians|pg||
nt|boedhy:  no double from west......not good imo|pg||
nt|roswolf: e/w bid and being naturally conservative will have real values not tramtickets|pg||
nt|gracelin: The match will be very close if Bocchi also goes down in this slam|pg||
nt|ahollan1: venice cup   Netherlands now down to France by only 3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and that's just one reason he could/should play @DA  then @H|pg||
nt|joest: that still leaves the critical jack location up in the air though|pg||
nt|joest: down one or down two|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @DK only helped Martel|pg||
pc|c4|nt|lechcold: przebicie czwartego trefla po dwukrotnym atutowaniu to najprostsza droga do zwyciêstwa|pg||
nt|boedhy:  you have perfect hand and can be almost sure of fit|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Jan or not Jan, you are doing well|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: loool thx|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: very starnge|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: strange|pg||
nt|skaftij:  kibs tell Traian Chira|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: yep...this is me|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Maybe friends list mixes it up|pg||
nt|xenya: EW cand beat it if they lead @Hs or E a @C at some point -- but not easy to defend with N's hand concealed|pg||
nt|ady: now  Q@D  needed|pg||
nt|roswolf: true this looks like playing on tilt|pg||
nt|gracelin: C9 lead is best|pg||
nt|bobholl: even now not made yet|pg||
nt|tomi2: very light 1@c opener here, imo deserves that score. 1@C odes not make life difficult for opps, does not really encourage partner to raise clubs or lead them and that hand had no ...|pg||
nt|tomi2: future for making some decent score|pg||
nt|brgpro: same 12 here|pg||
pc|c8|nt|wild card: if declarer plays trumps from the top, he'is severe danger of them breaking 4-1|pg||
nt|roswolf: safe lead|pg||
nt|gracelin: don't understand this lead at all.|pg||
nt|bobholl: don't know what the 2@H means but it certainly not bad|pg||
nt|kit: I disagree.  ANY opening bid makes life more difficult for the opponents, since everybody doesn't bid as well when they don't get to open.|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
nt|ady: looking at all the cards  possible to make 9 tricks    at some stage gaining an entry with the  hearts   play a low diamond from north   and later play the  jack of diamonds  ...|pg||
nt|ady: pinning the 10|pg||
nt|odysseus69: my good friend Dr Haase just pointed out that heart 9 was no good on last since decarer could run to dummys 10|pg||
nt|barnets: he makes 4hearts 1 club 3 spades and 1 diamond|pg||
nt|kit: I see -- we are of course putting the 9 of spades through.|pg||
nt|roswolf: return pard's suit -easy|pg||
nt|ady: now should be down|pg||
nt|davidstern: Best not to go there Al. There has been discussion about lack of disclosure on cards|pg||
pc|c3|nt|lechcold: i no to gra Upmark|pg||
nt|boedhy:  2@s no problem for declarer 3@s on the other hand...|pg||
nt|szalay: trump is standout, isnt it?|pg||
nt|ady: now heart  |pg||
nt|jbennet: yet another passivity warning .|pg||
nt|hantveit: NS can just push spade|pg||
nt|davidstern: And things may change|pg||
pc|c5|nt|lechcold: na to|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: grue saying he bid 2NT to make them miss their @d fit|pg||
nt|jbennet: west did not act over 2 clubs |pg||
nt|ahollan1: it worked!|pg||
nt|hantveit: or 1H|pg||
nt|hantveit: @h|pg||
nt|brgpro: well, u can't cover too much on cc, as long as u explain it at the table, u r fine|pg||
nt|davidstern: I could point you to some cards which lack the basic basic fundamentals|pg||
nt|ahollan1: compare this to one of the Brazilian pairs CC including  50 pages of Supplementary Notes|pg||
nt|davidstern: For my Aussie friends out there - Transnationals http://tinyurl.com/66l7slm|pg||
nt|davidstern: I dont have a need for supplemental notess as long as the card shows the basic responses which some dont even do|pg||
nt|ahollan1: aren't they all playing the spring nationals David?|pg||
nt|brgpro: well, i used to play in this event, do u think i will go through their notes? |pg||
nt|brgpro: doesnt matter how thick it could be...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: coach's job to identify the unusual things that may come up :)|pg||
nt|davidstern: NO Al the Australian Open Team played in the qual of the BB and stayed for TN|pg||
nt|brgpro: right|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i meant  the australian spectators :)|pg||
nt|davidstern: Ah no only seniors and womens on and 02:53 in the morning|pg||
pc|cA|nt|boedhy:  sorry @c 3 offcourse|pg||
nt|brolucius: Some teams have a coach, one of whose duties is to research the bidding methods of the upcoming opponents. Here a coach would have ensured that E/W knew what 1@D meant and which ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: defenses would apply.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so Brink did well to get in the auction  --  many would PASS|pg||
nt|barnets: no we play a low spade from dummy at end to our 9|pg||
nt|ady: then clear diamonds|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|athene: i don't think he will be able to finesse clubs now|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he claimed 9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: overtrick??|pg||
nt|star6ija: but they are going to be back shortly as far as I know Aronov - Stefanov simpathy to the higher levels|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: but it was me who did not notice that on the king of diamonds \e played the ten |pg||
nt|ady: diamonds played for declarer by defence  so an overtrick last hand|pg||
nt|star6ija: maybe he played the Jack of Diamonds instead of 9|pg||
nt|boedhy:  but did you watch the tempo|pg||
nt|boedhy:  no really they are very very good|pg||
nt|barnets: west wins the 10 and is enplayed|pg||
nt|hantveit: thx|pg||
nt|hantveit: but my english still stinks|pg||
nt|hantveit: no help there|pg||
nt|ahollan1: links to all running scores, including Transnational   http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|rv: For those interested, check http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=884 for live scores|pg||
nt|ahollan1: also try  www.bridgewinners.com|pg||
nt|joest: it's hard for me to see why Martelwould get the spades right.  Hurd is counting out for a least six diamonds and three trumps|pg||
nt|ahollan1: how about pull trump then @H toward J|pg||
nt|joest: south wins and plays a heart right back|pg||
pc|cK|nt|lml: the reason that the slam works is that north-south dont have quacks they have controls|pg||
nt|pawel90:  walet kier sie odlozy i lezymy|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and indeed good friends of mine :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: new leader :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Levin thinking |pg||
nt|szalay: I doubt that lead survives this board|pg||
nt|tomi2: think giving partner the @H ruff, cashing ak of clubs and wait for 2 dia tricks is best here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: never mind pitch is needed in declarer's hand|pg||
pc|d9|nt|antoniz: g³êboki impas 98 trefl|pg||
nt|bobholl: well done from boye|pg||
pc|c6|nt|lml: and long souths|pg||
nt|lml: suits|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: W asks about 3@h bid to S (screen is lowered first)|pg||
nt|athene: with the hearts cleared|pg||
nt|ady: souths trumps not high enough to defeat this|pg||
nt|roswolf: he may have been better ducking the first diamond altogether|pg||
nt|bobholl: south counting east's points |pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|pbundy: just as long as he didn't have to declare 2NT :)|pg||
nt|jbennet: and east didnt act over 2 NT (he had a cheap 3 cl bid available).|pg||
pc|s6|nt|barnets: not an unreasonable play|pg||
nt|ady: 10@D  signled  entry higher ranking of sensible suit    |pg||
nt|rv: my link to Trans-nationals|pg||
pc|s4|nt|athene: a possible alternative was to finesse the @CJ earlier, before knocking out the second spade|pg||
nt|udo: next 7 imps for italy  5@S xed vs 6@S xed,,,,,,really one-qay-match so far|pg||
nt|ady: correct    |pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|roswolf: leading pards presumed suit!?|pg||
pc|sT|nt|kit: Problem now is that Weinstein will be end-played.|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|bobholl: but not well enough|pg||
nt|joest: well he did guess it!|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|ryskiel_: mam niepotwierdzone wieci, ¿e na drugim stole zagrano te¿ 3 BA, co mnie nie dziwi specjalnie|pg||
nt|gracelin: why SQ, To put all pressure on West.|pg||
nt|hantveit: he had to play that way to avoid -2|pg||
nt|bobholl: North still confident of beating this|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: he has potential|pg||
nt|joest: from his perspective north might have been 3=1=6=3|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|athene: even if it loses, north can't attack the hearts|pg||
nt|udo: one-way|pg||
nt|tomi2: thats strange|pg||
nt|kit: Bathurst can do even better by ruffing with 7 of clubs, cashing jack of clubs, and exiting with 3 of clubs|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ady: this may be 3 down|pg||
nt|bobholl: n will take 2 tricks now|pg||
nt|tomi2: east now i think should have the full count|pg||
pc|d8|nt|ady: 8 tricks|pg||
nt|xenya: well if they play trump trump trump, N has top 8 tricks |pg||
nt|pbundy: and we will never know if lall would have BID over 3nt, had nystrom passed!|pg||
nt|tomi2: and play as kit suggested|pg||
nt|joest: he didn't know that north had the seventh diamond -- like we did|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|skaftij:  In open room, Baldursson and Jonsson are conducting a strong @c sequence towards @s slam|pg||
nt|skaftij:  on bd 23|pg||
nt|gracelin: if west remember correctly, East can still uard D.|pg||
nt|gracelin: guard|pg||
pc|hK|nt|famus: they made mince meat out of the Bulgarians yesterday in a similar fashion--this Italian Juggernaut is seemingly invincible---need a David somewhere!!|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and im told de WIJs did bid so there they are in 3@S down|pg||
nt|ady: or more|pg||
pc|h7|nt|boedhy:  but brink is going down also...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: actualy making 9 sorry|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i will correct|pg||
pc|h9|pc|d4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: even that is bizarre since NS play Weak 2@D|pg||
mc|10|nt|roswolf: this seems dooomed|pg||
nt|joest: well he saved two imps|pg||
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qx|o9|st||md|3ST7642HK9DA52C854,SQ8HT63DK764CAJ92,SAK9HQJ754DQJ9CK3,SJ53HA82DT83CQT76|sv|e|nt|kit: Weinstein knew the hand.  He was just making sure.|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|davidstern: Venice Cup running scores http://tinyurl.com/3j6lh3a|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: I could find a reason for not doing what I did ... says Weinstein|pg||
nt|kit: Everybody transfers with South hand, but I've always wondered if it is percentage with this hand type.|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: I couldnt find a reason !|pg||
nt|davidstern: And seniors at http://tinyurl.com/3df3ep6|pg||
mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|pc|c4|nt|davidstern: Transnationals Running Scores http://tinyurl.com/66l7slm|pg||
nt|kit: There is real danger that opener has doubleton spade and lose a bunch of trump tricks, while 1NT just rolls home on power.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
nt|kit: True, North might super-accept -- but even then does South want to be in game?  Not clear to me.|pg||
pc|c8|nt|gavin:  yes|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|gavin:  if partner super accepts |pg||
pc|s9|pc|c6|pg||
nt|gavin:  either minor suit doubleton would make game really good|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3ST7642HK9DA52C854,SQ8HT63DK764CAJ92,SAK9HQJ754DQJ9CK3,SJ53HA82DT83CQT76|sv|e|nt|athene: versace can't be 100% sure that north has all the hearts but it looked fairly likely|pg||
nt|udo: antoher diff bord NS,,,,,missfit-hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: half of the match played in 40 minutes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ahhhh  thanks for explanation Traian|pg||
nt|wild card: well played, but on this layout it was an easy board|pg||
nt|kamyk: ostatnio w Wilnie ktos mówi³ pó³¿artem, ¿e na Krzysztofów powinno siê graæ kontrami karnymi - oni faktycznie sie kulom nie k³aniaj¹:)|pg||
nt|xenya: so 1 imp to USA1|pg||
nt|lml: quite tight bridge by both teams|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: trying to get some time back|pg||
nt|boedhy:  very quick play so far|pg||
nt|ady: e/s have a slam|pg||
nt|oosmanb: probably some "polite" words being exchanged in Italian now|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: not after the board -- it was during the board -- I dont speak italian so I am not able to translate|pg||
nt|hlortz: some teams cant afford a coach :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: director back in the room|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he will not leave here ...we are too late|pg||
nt|xenya: i retract, sorry|pg||
nt|szalay: no|pg||
nt|szalay: small trump|pg||
nt|szalay: after cash AK|pg||
nt|kit: end-play for down 2 and a push|pg||
nt|ady: still 10 back for China   keeps them in the hunt|pg||
nt|pbundy: this could be a danger hand for USA  2, tho - if the spade switch is not found, 11 tricks are there|pg||
nt|pbundy: as we just saw.........|pg||
nt|ahollan1:  23  [3NW=]  Hurd 2@D East|pg||
nt|hantveit: interesting in closed as they failed 3nt by two tricks|pg||
nt|bobholl: 3nt is very optimistic|pg||
nt|roswolf: more distribution here|pg||
nt|roswolf: e/w outgunned though|pg||
nt|brgpro: many of the agreements won't come up at all, |pg||
nt|rv: world class field of 150+teams, Meckwell, Fantunes for Angelini, Z-men, H-men for Monaco and many other top stars|pg||
nt|ahollan1: too good for 1N=14-16?|pg||
mb|1N|nt|lml: and canada went ahead ... but with a lot of luck|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: 10-12 1NT|pg||
nt|lml: they bid spades which was not the best slam|pg||
nt|lml: but the suit broke|pg||
nt|antoniz: Pawe³ to normalny kontrakt|pg||
nt|bt: ns took 10 tricks at the other table in clubs, and gained 5 imps, strange game this|pg||
nt|brolucius: A close friend of mine, Marc Smith, was coach to the young Thailand team in a recent world championship. (They had to practice in a  nearby horse-racing stadium, due to lack of ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: facilities). His great moment was when his proteges defeated Meckstroth/Rodwell's USA by a good margin!|pg||
nt|szalay: and 3@S, a ruff and 2 trumps|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1st seat favorable  1N=9-12|pg||
nt|gracelin: Something must be wrong there. China kept on giving Bocchi chances and Bocchi gracefully rejected everytime.|pg||
nt|nkgupt: other tbl 4@h from S so almost impossible to defend|pg||
nt|brgpro: will make a game in @H for NS|pg||
nt|bobholl: other room 4 @H in south no @C lead :)|pg||
nt|joest: no|pg||
mb|2H|nt|athene: comes up a lot, generates swings|pg||
nt|athene: NS might be in a lot of trouble now they have gone past their 8-card fit|pg||
nt|pawel90:  wolalbym 5@c graÄ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: favorable means  you not vul   opponents vul|pg||
nt|skaftij:  2M=M+m (54),|pg||
nt|ahollan1: also called "green"|pg||
nt|pbundy: for those wanting plenty of swings and action - here it is....|pg||
nt|hantveit: yes, we look at all the cards, but it looks like a pass on easts hand on 1nt|pg||
nt|ady: all shapely except north  4-3-3-3|pg||
nt|brgpro: 4@h and shd be reached easily|pg||
nt|joest: if my alternative is to jump to 2NT after partner responds|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: well done |pg||
nt|lml: to get to slam :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: indeed, nice bidding in open room|pg||
nt|udo: 2@D or 2 @H ?|pg||
nt|ady: 4@H a make e/w|pg||
nt|panosk: gd result for Sweeden a bit fortunate too|pg||
nt|runnerup: this will be another push one way or another (3 @c=) |pg||
nt|mdgraham: quite a good West hand, with two aces and four trumps|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D is NOT 1-suited --  that hand opens 2@D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS do not play namyats|pg||
nt|ahollan1: quacks downgrade more than @H length upgrades|pg||
mb|2S|nt|vugraphznv: blame me |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: :)|pg||
nt|star6ija: Weinstein did it well in board 7...almost equalized it :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: there's a lesson there about signalling with card you can't afford to play|pg||
nt|ady: another part score hand   clubs likely|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: the rest of the play correct...except the ten instead of the 5 at trick 2|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is thepressur of thecBB QF|pg||
nt|bobholl: "muiderberg" 5@H 4+ minor would have been nice in S|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Might be what 2@H means|pg||
nt|roswolf: 4@H seems predestined|pg||
nt|ahollan1: historical trivia    namyats = Stayman spelled backwards|pg||
nt|brgpro: N could have made this contract in the OR|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but Stayman didn't invent the convention   or   Stayman for that matteer|pg||
nt|ahollan1: just first to do the write-up|pg||
mb|p|nt|wild card: fleisher showing a 12-14 hand with four spades, I presume|pg||
nt|rnmalik: For NS 3 NT can make.|pg||
nt|boedhy:  board 24 again sorry to say but a very good result for the boys|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: on this board David or ?|pg||
nt|ady: thats 7 tricks in the bag|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: How strong is it asks W|pg||
nt|boedhy:  could have made it tho...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: S answars "Usually 15-17"|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Jan, you could give Sementa a piece of paper to alert and explain his statements :)|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Very aggresive 3NT in OR|pg||
nt|kit: Double is responsive I believe.|pg||
nt|brolucius: 1@C 12+ points and 3+ clubs.|pg||
nt|ady: playable 4@H   but does not make|pg||
nt|ady: could be some more imps for China|pg||
nt|gracelin: and Italy in other room also went down in the 4S that need a good guess in Heart which became easy after south's double.|pg||
nt|hantveit: prec?|pg||
nt|bobholl: they bid 1nt 3nt too optimistic in east|pg||
nt|brgpro: they play mini NT here|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: 6NT isnt terrible.  It just needs the spade finesse|pg||
nt|boedhy:  not easy to see which line is best but ruffing 2 @c in dummy was possible...|pg||
nt|szalay: I prefer to play this DBL rather 'cards' than pure penalty|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 7 boards 46 imps|pg||
nt|rv: 3@c is mixed raise|pg||
mb|p|nt|udo: will end in 3 NT, i think|pg||
nt|famus: well this wud certainly propel them higher than desired|pg||
nt|boedhy:  10 opposite 11 and a quick 9 tricks|pg||
nt|boedhy:  yes 3@s down one|pg||
nt|boedhy:  could have been another 4 imps |pg||
nt|boedhy:  and those boards tend to add up...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I dont think thats a good idea at the moment|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on  8  playing Tarzan Precision  Muller passed 1@S so Einarsson balanced 2@H|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Not the best dummy you saw|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2nd hand  doubleton @S led thru Q to partner's AKJxx|pg||
nt|kit: That will get E-W to hearts|pg||
nt|roswolf: COME BACK   FANTUNES -all is forgiven|pg||
nt|gracelin: so China is only down 17 and there are still two slam swings to their favor.|pg||
nt|bigtrain: they opened 1NT showing 16-18 in the open room|pg||
nt|davidstern: Team members for TN teams and I found it hard to find can be seen at|pg||
nt|davidstern: http://registration.bridgechamp.com/tourn/Veldhoven.11/ParticipantsTeams.asp?qtournid=899&qdetails=1&qcountryid=All|pg||
nt|brgpro: it does make sense to play a @h to the 10|pg||
nt|joest: identical auctions|pg||
nt|joest: and, I suspect, identical results|pg||
pc|c6|nt|wild card: I see no reason for south to try something, at most 24 points in the combined hands|pg||
nt|wild card: and I count only 8 tricks in 3NT|pg||
nt|wild card: on a diamond lead|pg||
nt|ady: likely to end in 8|pg||
nt|anton72: unlucky values and numbers of diamonds in E |pg||
nt|mdgraham: so 3@h=good raise to 3@S (alas, on this lie one too high) - and 4@s is two too high |pg||
nt|ahollan1: we were told possible adjustment to hand from 5th set|pg||
nt|bobholl: 4@H just fails by 1 trick|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other room 23 Versace 5@SX|pg||
nt|brgpro: a mixed raise of 3@c ( usually unbal. 4 card raise)|pg||
nt|rv: many play cue as good rasie (10+hcp) and jump cue as mixed raise (4+trumps 5-8 hcp)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Levin's 1N (14)15-17|pg||
pc|c4|nt|udo: but cards dont lie very nice|pg||
nt|famus: 3NT|pg||
nt|athene: @CJ lead would be very nice|pg||
nt|skaftij:  and reached it|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2@C  gazilli,  2@S less than 8  no 3@S|pg||
nt|skaftij:  2@c = 15+|pg||
nt|lml: but of course this is the normal contract|pg||
nt|xenya: but very tough to bid it|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Running scores in Bermuda Bowl http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881 |pg||
nt|skaftij:  and agressive 2@h bid here vul |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: correct score on 24 now|pg||
nt|xenya: 3@C= means that 1@C should be 3 down|pg||
nt|runnerup: no -they will get + 150 -200 now -wd|pg||
nt|roswolf: that dbl looks  a tilt double|pg||
nt|gracelin: south will be better off to take out this|pg||
nt|roswolf: i wouldnt|pg||
nt|gracelin: his opening was shaded and he has distribution.|pg||
nt|gracelin: on perfect defense, the decision is 790 Vs. 800|pg||
nt|mdgraham: the problem is that EW have, basically, two balanced hands|pg||
nt|anton72: yes u are right ...even K @d onside still not enough|pg||
nt|pbundy: which hand might that be, al?|pg||
nt|brgpro: so 1NT rebid is 13-16?|pg||
nt|roswolf: wearing orange tinted glasses bob:)|pg||
nt|brgpro: maybe more|pg||
nt|bobholl: sure :0:);(|pg||
nt|brgpro: direct cue can be on 3, but mixed raise is surely 4+ with distribution|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: Martel's 1@S showed either 5+@C or some shortness|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: or natural|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: wow....rzeczywicie siê nie k³aniaj¹...|pg||
nt|lechcold: tak, u Martensa wraz z wiekiem daje siê zauwa¿yæ podwy¿szony poziom testosteronu:)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: i co obroñcy mog¹ zrobiæ z takimi sk³adami?|pg||
nt|lechcold: ale nie jest ³atwo graæ przeciwko takim skoczkom|pg||
nt|lechcold: zw³aszcza, jeli s¹ dobrzy technicznie i odporni na ciosy|pg||
nt|lechcold: najlepszy przyk³ad to Meckwell|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: Brink will struggle here|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|athene: if north played 3nt|pg||
nt|ahollan1: he'd either open 1N with 12-14 or rebid 1N to show strong NT|pg||
nt|ady: looks like 1 spade and 2 trump tricks|pg||
nt|oosmanb: ok some play in 3Nt here|pg||
nt|kit: 2@H is safe.  3@H treacherous.  4@H, reached in other room, hopeless.|pg||
nt|hantveit: no way to stop here either|pg||
nt|bigtrain: certainly makes bidding with east easier to understand|pg||
nt|davidstern: The weather here has been cool 3-10 degrees but nice autumnal colours and often sunny - but now rainy|pg||
nt|josj: will improve again later this week|pg||
nt|davidstern: And the best thing here is of course..................The unlimited Lavazza coffee served by very attractive ladies (and men)|pg||
nt|brgpro: considering the @h suit itself, if they are 3-2, it makes no difference, if they are 4-1, u cant guard sing. Q or J anyways, can only guard sing. 9|pg||
nt|josj: must be an unusual sight for you, David...autumnal colours in October, I assume :)|pg||
nt|davidstern: The following has been reported by a female: the men not attractive?:)|pg||
nt|brgpro: however, there is @d in consideration as well...u r afraid of possible @d ruffs|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: She might be wrong David|pg||
nt|brgpro: he has entries in dummy to play a @H up, 2 @d entries|pg||
nt|davidstern: I cant make any statement without people getting the wrong idea so I will leave it there but I think she is....|pg||
nt|brgpro: without the @d problem i believe the right way is to play a @h to the 10|pg||
nt|brgpro: say u have @dAkx in dummy|pg||
nt|davidstern: The spade ten means something but I am not sure what - could be reverse attitude|pg||
nt|brgpro: i said, if u have @dAkx in dummy then the right way is to play a @h to the 10|pg||
nt|ahollan1: USA2 has extended its lead over USA1   all the way to 9|pg||
nt|davidstern: Is it right to play to the @H missing the nine? Not sure about that|pg||
nt|davidstern: 10|pg||
nt|brgpro: considering single suit, it is definitelly the right way|pg||
nt|brgpro: for all the specs, if u want to see the profiles of both teams, visit www.bridgewinners.com, u can find it there|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and so much more|pg||
nt|brgpro: live scores as well...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and so much more :)|pg||
nt|brgpro: a small @d will surely set this...declarer is afraid of a possible ruff|pg||
pc|c2|nt|antoniz: Swietny wist|pg||
nt|pawel90:  na czesciowke z kontrÄ w atu. teraz bez wielu.|pg||
nt|oosmanb: but @h are friendly, @C ace is on|pg||
nt|oosmanb: but he might try to find J@S instead of playing on @h 3-3, lets see|pg||
nt|xenya: lack ot entries to dummy though|pg||
nt|bt: looks like a nice game but on a diamond lead it gets difficult, south is under a lot of pressure though|pg||
nt|garden2005: ja wiem, ¿e Kalita i tak by wygra³ - pochwali³em Jonssona za skrócenie rozdania i za ewentualnego impa|pg||
nt|jbennet: EW now might feel that extraordinary measures are called for.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we weren't told :(|pg||
nt|pbundy: i am guessing not............|pg||
nt|pbundy: a suggestion it might be the last hand where grue declared 2@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1:  23 5@SX made so 13 imps to Italy|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 29-0 set for Italy|pg||
nt|rv: Trans-nationals, Parimatch (Russian Open): 160, Angelini (155), Oz Open (151), Het Witte 1 (150), IsraelJuniors (148), Piedra (147), Consus Red (144.3), Smirnov (144), Het Witte 2 ...|pg||
nt|rv: (143.5), Iceland (143.2), Texan Aces (143), Teramoto (142)|pg||
pc|cK|nt|athene: (nice for declarer, i mean) :)|pg||
nt|ady: can set up the hearts    but no entry with clubs 4-2   so should make just 9 tricks|pg||
nt|boedhy:  http://www.wkbridge2011.com/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl this link will work i'm told|pg||
nt|sybarra: hoi Ruud and all |pg||
nt|boedhy:  hoping to get off for 2 down or so..|pg||
nt|brolucius: This affected the draw for the KO-stage and in fact allowed England to progress to the final.|pg||
nt|bt: fredin is famous for leading aces against 3NT|pg||
nt|kit: This deal looks as flat as they come.|pg||
pc|c7|nt|famus: tuff transportation prblms|pg||
nt|athene: probably heart lead now, ducked|pg||
nt|udo: great lead,,,,,,,amazing how often they find best lead|pg||
nt|famus: duck 100%|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: GREAT to watch such leads :)|pg||
nt|famus: dont blame NS to be in 3NT--how much they go down is moot|pg||
nt|ady: if west played 4@H  a trump lead may beat it|pg||
nt|boedhy:  sorry have to go back in 20 minutes|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: non vul so no worries really|pg||
nt|szalay: 8 of @H is mighty card|pg||
nt|xenya: well this makes -- but you need to pull out the right card each time you are on lead|pg||
nt|pbundy: it was scored as 110 - but from the play, i'd thought he'd gone down 1|pg||
nt|ahollan1: quacks =  queens and jacks|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|lml: this looks to make with no problems with the clubs working|pg||
nt|ady: clubs 4-1|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Hi Sybarra cover for me..|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: E had @h A in his hand - puts it back|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I do not know why|pg||
nt|gracelin: there is no way to misguess on this one and Shi is a very reliable player.|pg||
nt|pbundy: WRONG prediction again here by yours truly!|pg||
pc|h4|nt|anton72: in W possition I prefere to play and bid 2 NT inv + |pg||
nt|mdgraham: the jump to 4@s is optimistic, but change a couple of cards in the West hand, and put @dA onside, and it might very well have play |pg||
nt|bobholl: @C are terrible but @S are fine|pg||
nt|rv: top 8 to qualify after 15 rounds, above scores at end of 8 rounds|pg||
pc|h2|nt|athene: 500 here without much bother; that's fine when your game is touch and go|pg||
nt|athene: sometimes you lose 3 imps if they make the thin 4@S in the other room|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: they should know their defensive signals at this level|pg||
nt|boedhy:  not easy to see that he could play a @h back...|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i tend to think this lead would work more often than any other|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@C was a worthwhile bid because it might allow North to complete to 3@C if he held three clubs.|pg||
nt|gracelin: anything but a spade return may see 990, with all dummy's spades going on the good clubs, after 2 round of trumps|pg||
nt|bobholl: invite and not a definitive answer|pg||
nt|brgpro: 3@D shows @h fit and @d values which sounds like music to S|pg||
nt|ady: 3NT a possibility played by North     likely to make 4@H as well|pg||
nt|brgpro: can make 5 in fact|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed - even us mortals might bid the same:)|pg||
pc|hK|nt|skaftij:  yes|pg||
nt|bt: the thought here is that if you want to beat this kontrakt, A@H has to "work" for the defence|pg||
nt|brolucius: On a 'failed Stayman' auction, where responder looks for a major and does not find one, you should favour a major-suit lead. Don't worry that responder has a major. Worry instead ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: that declarer will be well-stocked in the minors. |pg||
nt|bt: odds changes slightly when one of the opps hands are very strong like here|pg||
nt|bt: declarer will go to dummy, take a spade finesse and aouth will eventually be squeezed down to his underpants|pg||
nt|bt: south|pg||
nt|brolucius: I have just written a book 'Winning Notrump Leads', with Taf Anthias, where we analysed (by computer) opening leads after a variety of auctions ending in NT. That was one of our ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: findings.|pg||
nt|hlortz: just give w  fewer @H and one more @C say and the lead would be a great success|pg||
nt|brolucius: After an auction of 1NT - 3NT, it is nearly always right to lead a major suit.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Even 10-x in a major is better than K-J-x-x in a minor.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: fallenius is thinking|pg||
nt|fabsayc: better to win?|pg||
nt|brolucius: At the other table Grue led the @D4.|pg||
nt|bt: fallenius knows partner has nothing else, maybe @DJ|pg||
nt|bt: yea at the other table south was pressured on 5 diamonds|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if he ducks woolridge will eventually have the option of throwing him in with third heart|pg||
nt|brolucius: Surely South knows from the bidding that West holds @HQ-x-x.|pg||
nt|brolucius: North would not lead the ace from A-J-x-x|pg||
nt|bt: he must place partner with @DJ thats when there is a possibility to beat this|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he might but wont continue with jack|pg||
nt|runnerup: but ew seems to make 3nt also |pg||
nt|xenya: and club shift helps|pg||
nt|ahollan1:  8  deWijs playing 2@S West|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Jonsson was endplayed at trick 2|pg||
nt|szalay: right card means = pull trumps and play finesses?:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: during the pause   i think it significant to note that  all 6 USA teams advanced to KO|pg||
nt|szalay: all we know for right penalty double needs 8 of @H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and in Bermuda Bowl  4 of 6 European Teams advance|pg||
nt|szalay: 4 from 7|pg||
nt|szalay: Holland is European, I was told|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh that's right  extra team for host country|pg||
nt|ahollan1: for those with very short days this time of year   Iceland, Netherlands and Sweden all advanced|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Israel and Italy   --  i miscounted  5 of 7|pg||
nt|szalay: btw|pg||
nt|jbennet: Thet must have been aware of that they just missed a laydwon game. allowing opponents to play 4 cl making instead  of scoring +400 in 5d. |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: bertheau saying 4@d is shortness|pg||
nt|bobholl: opposite 16-18 in imps i bid it also indeed|pg||
nt|bobholl: that helps :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: a smidgeon|pg||
nt|brgpro: this lead made life easier|pg||
nt|ady: overtrick  now likely|pg||
nt|brgpro: so they played @h game from the short side, made the @C ruff impossible to find|pg||
nt|ady: would also make on other possibility  ace A@S|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes the azurri take the lead|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|ady: east south Jan   making a joke|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: ahhhh -- I did not understand that :)|pg||
pc|c8|nt|lml: he should make an uptrick on the lie of the cards|pg||
nt|szalay: Israel is european, as well|pg||
nt|anton72: then over Fionas 3 @s .... or 3@d ...easy can pass|pg||
pc|c9|nt|athene: but sometimes you gain 12 when it goes off|pg||
nt|athene: those are good odds for just taking the money|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: a nie RodStroth?|pg||
nt|psyck:  You can also find live scores in this link: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|ady: kib suggesting 3NT  very much a gamble|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Duboin promissed 6@H, 3@S and 15+ points|pg||
nt|ady: that unfortunate for Italy|pg||
pc|s9|nt|ryskiel_: zaraz zaraz co tu siê dzieje?|pg||
nt|ady: seems K@H lead may beat it now  exceot north may later be squeezed in the minors|pg||
nt|odysseus69: not everyone will open on East which will make it tough to reach game - pass and double Norths 1nt response gets to hearts but maybe not game|pg||
nt|sybarra: one sec and will come back  |pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@S made so Netherlands double partscore pickup on  8|pg||
nt|ady: doomed |pg||
nt|ahollan1: Angelini must be heavy favorite with feature pairs  Fantunes, Meckwell|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|oosmanb: nope @h straight away!|pg||
nt|gracelin: declareris of course worried about a 4-0 trump breaks.  But he will soon find out it's not the case.|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes but he might misplay because of the "pressure"|pg||
nt|gracelin: HA is the normal play now, but declarer may think deeper|pg||
nt|roswolf: really as long as he doesnt panic this is a cinch|pg||
nt|roswolf: i would set up his side suit - as per general principles|pg||
nt|gracelin: Shi is not the man to panic.  He played the last 3 Bermuda Bowls and reached semifinal in 2009.|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes which is why Bocchi's malaise is so evident|pg||
nt|gracelin: The Chinese team beat the defending Champion Norway in the QF.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: one of the pairs in this match play  1N-transfer//2N =  3-fit with 2 honors|pg||
nt|joest: I like that treatment.  I play that too|pg||
pc|sA|nt|star6ija: there are some diffivulties|pg||
nt|lechcold: mo¿e byæ:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now spade to jack seems so normal|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on 24   Hurd-Wooldridge find @D fit -- but not @S      5@DX|pg||
nt|jbennet: The only explanation why east didnt pass 4 sp with weak trumps and only 1 ace.|pg||
nt|jbennet: must have been that he hoped for a miracle.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: well, nystrom thought that his unlimited partner made a slam try|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: maybe only needing the club cue|pg||
nt|hantveit: NS, can just push dia every time|pg||
nt|hantveit: or change to clubs now, whatever you fancy|pg||
nt|rv: in my view tougher to qualify for QFs in trans-nationals than in BB|pg||
pc|s3|nt|athene: some might be wondering why it's so obvious for east to duck his @HA there at trick 1|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on  8 Aronov in 4@S|pg||
nt|ady: diamonds taken quickly anyway|pg||
nt|runnerup: without @d lead-or switch  -which is difficult|pg||
nt|ady: should be another 5 to china|pg||
nt|brgpro: this board could easily be another push|pg||
pc|s2|nt|boedhy:  @s @c ducked and @d to the 10 for 6 tricks|pg||
nt|mdgraham: difficult hand - Q10xx Axx xx Axxx and game simply depends on @dA onside, assuming trumps 2-1|pg||
nt|bobholl: n has to find @C switch now|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|ady: rallying a bit|pg||
nt|roswolf: going off as well|pg||
nt|brgpro: when Muller is in tank, we can safely go and make a coffee...( tea in my case , i am from china!)|pg||
pc|sK|nt|bt: that was strange|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: angelini playing with brogeland himself|pg||
nt|rv: Monaco suprisingly not doing well|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks  Dennis  i couldn't remember Angelini's partner|pg||
nt|rv: Monaco with Zimmerman-Multon, Balicki-Zmud, Helgemo-Helness in 74th place with 121 VPs|pg||
pc|s5|nt|athene: if you have the ace over KQ it's just standard to duck at top level|pg||
nt|athene: it hurts declarer's transportation|pg||
nt|athene: and also helps your own|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: Upmark jest lekko wpuszczony|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: oni graj¹ w BA nie wychod w singla Wikingu|pg||
nt|lechcold: tylko odejcie kierem stwarza jaki problem|pg||
nt|panosk: double dummy ie spade lead 4@H dont make|pg||
nt|xenya: got to believe in his luck|pg||
nt|ady: still could just get the heart wrong|pg||
nt|hantveit: had to find it for -3, but would still be down with dia|pg||
nt|ahollan1: kool to know that suit is running|pg||
pc|s4|nt|athene: now EW can cash two hearts any time west gets in|pg||
nt|athene: if east won the first trick he couldn't attack hearts any more|pg||
nt|athene: and declarer would have a sure trick and an entry|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: no right prediction this time Ruud :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: maybe the result but not the line of play|pg||
nt|pbundy: i thought he did, too - but nystrom seemed a bit minimum to me.......particularly opposite diamond shortness|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: nystrom did alert as cuebid, not specifically shortness|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|ady: now give up a spade if finesse wrong |pg||
nt|ahollan1: levin-weinstein never bid where karaivanov-trendafilo wore out their red cards|pg||
nt|oosmanb: good play, since he knew K@D was the only time he'd get to dummy if A@S is with West|pg||
nt|oosmanb: @S can wait @H could not|pg||
nt|oosmanb: still some work to do!|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|pawel90:  moÅ¼e Jacek siÄ baÅ, Å¼e rozegra piki rozgrywajacemu?|pg||
nt|lechcold: a nic, puszczona lewa|pg||
nt|pawel90:  jak nie trafi trefla to wroci|pg||
nt|xenya: winning back what they lost on 1 |pg||
nt|bobholl: he doesn't know he struck gold with the @C switch|pg||
pc|d8|nt|lml: is this a safer line?|pg||
nt|lml: I dont think so|pg||
nt|udo: at least down 3 now|pg||
nt|antoniz: teraz trafiamy pika|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: dama pik?|pg||
nt|antoniz: chyba jednak As pik i pik|pg||
nt|kamyk: @H D, @SA i kier|pg||
nt|kamyk: ee, plote g³upoty:)|pg||
nt|lechcold: ee |pg||
nt|antoniz: je¿eli za³o¿y Króla pik u W to Dama pik jest ok|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: ale ja te¿ o tym porzez chwilê myla³em Karolu - tak wiêc nie jeste osamotniony|pg||
nt|szalay: may I predict which match will be good till  96?|pg||
nt|bobholl: well done|pg||
nt|hantveit: partner played club T = bring me more please|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
nt|star6ija: this move is critical|pg||
nt|oosmanb: oh wow, didnt cash @H |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: no he didnt|pg||
nt|oosmanb: endplay in @D ?|pg||
nt|roswolf: he must forget restricted choice|pg||
mc|9|nt|pawel90:  hmm|pg||
nt|xenya: leaving high heart stranded -- interesting|pg||
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qx|o10|st||md|4SJ98HQ95DJT9CAK63,SA64HKJT8DAQ73C42,SQ52H32DK652CJ985,SKT73HA764D84CQT7|sv|b|nt|davidstern: Also scores available at http://www.bridgewinners.com/ all on one page if you pref.|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: I'm not staying transferring is wrong, and I would probably do so also -- but I do believe it is worth thinking about on that hand type -- 5-3-3-2 with some strength and weak suit.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|an|15-17|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Pusy 4@H call.  Partner can see the vulnerability also.  If West passed 3@H, will East want to be in game?|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
nt|davidstern: On the hand where 4@S played in 4-3 fir EW have reached 5@C for USA1|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg||
nt|szalay: clever small @C from dummy|pg||
nt|warrens:  with that duck, declarer has a chance now|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
nt|kit: interesting trick 1.  Grue ducked from Q10x, and Weinstein fell for it and played the king (even though playing 3rd/5th)|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|nt|warrens:  needs to pick the @H Q and his communication isn't great, but it's possible|pg||
nt|gavin:  yes this defense was strange|pg||
pc|c6|nt|gavin:  are you sure that levin didnt play a higher club under the ace ?|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|kit: Grue decided that Levin wasn't leading from KJ8, and even if he were Weinstein would go up ace.  Very tough play.|pg||
nt|szalay: 7 of @D will be high soon|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|nt|kit: Now it is all on the trump guess|pg||
nt|gavin:  weinstein winning the king of clubs and cashing the ace must have been trying to give partner a club ruff|pg||
nt|gavin:  and the only thing that could have stopped him from playing a 3rd round of clubs|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: Lead went low to King of @cs|pg||
pc|h8|nt|gavin:  is if levin followed with a higher club than the 8 at trick 2|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|gavin:  indictating NO PARTNER I DONT HAVE A DOUBLETON|pg||
nt|kit: I'm sure Levin must have followed with higher club|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: I am sitting beside an operator from "OurGame" so am only seeing 0,8 of the table|pg||
nt|kit: With spade good Grue no longer has to ruff any diamonds, so it is just on guessing the queen of hearts.  Grue knows  (or can assume) clubs 4-4, and spades 3-3|pg||
nt|kit: He can play ace and ruff a diamond safely, and see what spots appear -- if he believes them.|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: and I am not ABSOLUTELY sure what the 2nd @c from N was|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SJ98HQ95DJT9CAK63,SA64HKJT8DAQ73C42,SQ52H32DK652CJ985,SKT73HA764D84CQT7|sv|b|nt|lml: possibly losing an imp to the overtrick|pg||
nt|famus: vicious--but artful|pg||
nt|lechcold: pamiêtajmy, ¿e wynik 22:2 nie jest prawdziwi|pg||
nt|lechcold: nie jest prawdziwy|pg||
nt|xenya: N has upgraded already, and S doesn't have enough values to go any further|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: all four players now leave the room |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: going somewhere for themselves|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: so I am all on my own|pg||
nt|yuval10: can you fix the board so that will enable 4@s to make here?|pg||
nt|yuval10: :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Everything has a price|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: :)|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: flat board :)|pg||
nt|skaftij:  the pass over 2H probably denied 3 card support|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: wow...unusual 400 in the open room|pg||
nt|brolucius: That is the link to the E/W convention card. (Many thanks to the excellent ECATS site).|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Bulgaria and Poland were the 2 European teams that didn't advance|pg||
nt|szalay: isr-usa, the rest wont be very interesting tomorrow|pg||
nt|szalay: I thinkû|pg||
nt|roswolf: china rallying|pg||
nt|gracelin: 3 blows to Italy.|pg||
nt|roswolf: CHINA now effectively leading|pg||
nt|anton72: sure ..we looking 52 cards ...hand is medium|pg||
nt|jbennet: game virtually over (and has been for some time now),|pg||
nt|pbundy: jim griffin predicted this successful defense for n/s|pg||
nt|hantveit: yes, good defence by ns|pg||
nt|bobholl: but C anyway|pg||
nt|roswolf: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm for running scores etc|pg||
nt|roswolf: 2 imps to the azurri|pg||
nt|rv: they still have time to recover|pg||
nt|ahollan1: helps responder re-evaluate playing strength|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: also they might just bid 1NT - 2@H; 2@S pass in the other room|pg||
nt|lechcold: 3N bez biletu w PO:(|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Back with more action|pg||
nt|leao:  scoresheet must look pretty depressing at the table from the brazilians perspective...|pg||
nt|sybarra: does Brink have a gadget here?|pg||
nt|boedhy:  looks liks 6@s|pg||
nt|bt: iceland is getting closer to the struggle for 8th spot, and usa1 might if they drop some more to NZ|pg||
nt|xenya: in the other room, S bid 3@S at this point|pg||
nt|runnerup: here Swedish ns where in 5-1 fit -which doesnt look like the best place|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=14-16|pg||
nt|brolucius: Thanks. That site works VERY well,. England 59 - Sweden 24. |pg||
nt|gracelin: yes, only 9 imps difference and there are still the two slams and 790 to come.|pg||
nt|roswolf: now more distribution floating about|pg||
nt|bobholl: lot of tricks in other room :)|pg||
mb|1C|nt|athene: not automatic to reach the game with that 7 facing 17|pg||
nt|lml: looks like 3@S ... lets see|pg||
nt|ady: 2@C  I believe either 1 suited in clubs   are clubs and a major?|pg||
nt|roswolf: ned another 15 imps this set to stay in contact|pg||
nt|bobholl: lots off fireworks on this one i guess|pg||
mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=4+|pg||
nt|ady: another flatish hand   part score|pg||
nt|yuval10: Gyorgy sazaly, in an earlier match, suggested that the US teams will be tougher to beat during the KO team, also the Italian one|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: this time a max NT|pg||
nt|boedhy:  will he have visions of that after 1NT opening|pg||
nt|boedhy:  he should if he hears a fit|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: the hands fit perfectly|pg||
nt|oosmanb: 1NT will help them win auction in 2@H probably|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Souths pass over 1NT in OR is a matter of style, lots of points but no suit to attack|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@S substantially better played by south|pg||
nt|gracelin: oh, the 3D is by north|pg||
nt|roswolf: well his head may be bitten off here|pg||
nt|mdgraham: well, there's a thing - 1@s on a 3-3 fit |pg||
nt|bobholl: 3nt as south ?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 16+|pg||
nt|joest: that treatment does well when responder has some random eight count (or 7 count) with Hxxxx of his/her suit.  Often can now bump to 3NT b/c of the known source of tricks|pg||
mb|2C|nt|kemperg: Pakistani wont feel well :(|pg||
nt|skaftij:  12 lucky tricks available |pg||
nt|antoniz: 13-2 to prawdziwy wynik|pg||
nt|ady: that was a bad error|pg||
nt|brgpro: as the cards lie, NS can make 3NT but will they reach it|pg||
nt|bobholl: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live|pg||
nt|rv: Italians have bid upto 5@s double on 23, 13 more IMPs|pg||
mb|d|nt|athene: now south wants to splinter in two suits at once :)|pg||
nt|lml: doug tends to be conservatice|pg||
nt|ady: probaly 1NT|pg||
nt|odysseus69: Zack will want to become invisible - uncharacteristic careless play|pg||
nt|sybarra: hi leao:) |pg||
nt|brolucius: 4@S is not a silly contract but the cards lie unluckily for N/S.|pg||
nt|bt: at the other table i think the bids were normal until north bid 4@S, @HQx is really bad on that auction|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @H & @S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D=no pref|pg||
nt|ady: 11 tricks a good return in OR|pg||
nt|hantveit: looks hard to get more then 9 tricks if ew play spade and spade early|pg||
nt|bobholl: boye will lead @H i guess|pg||
nt|rv: lead now 30 IMPs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H shows 4+@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: you would like to just bid blackwood except you might get too high|pg||
nt|brolucius: England was not fancied by the bookies, but what do they know?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in context of strong 1@C  --  1Major - 4Major is very wide range|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: god guess:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: good|pg||
nt|hantveit: and spade in trick 2?|pg||
nt|bobholl: east wondering what's the colour of west |pg||
nt|ahollan1: very agressive opening bids   that's what makes Hurd's pass with that good @D suit so unexpected|pg||
mb|2H|nt|athene: some people play 4@D shows this sort of hand -very strong suit with support for partner|pg||
nt|athene: ok i am told 4@C asks for keycards|pg||
nt|athene: if so, north won't be taking so long :) just a matter of counting four steps|pg||
nt|athene: i think 4@C is a splinter in fact|pg||
nt|athene: and north has the well-known problem|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: N shut his eys and looks to the ceiling... thinking|pg||
nt|athene: he has some extras but his only available cue-bid goes past game|pg||
nt|lml: so can west find the diamond lead ... the @DQ|pg||
nt|lml: north should bid 4@H here|pg||
nt|lml: I wonder what 2NT would show?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: N not convenient with partners bid, 4@h seems logical|pg||
nt|lml: I guess 19?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: can't say, I assume so|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: pass or correct for N|pg||
nt|lml: the Canadians had a bit of a strange auction on the previous board to end in 1@S|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 3nt and 4@h should not make|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: wola³bym ¿eby nieporawdziwe by³o wistowanie w ostatnim rozdaniu|pg||
nt|lechcold: z rozdaniem 8 by³ jaki k³opot w PO|pg||
nt|yuval10: the KO stage is of course an entierly different thing, and the US teams, with all their experience, will surely have some edge|pg||
nt|lml: Israel has been doing very well ... tough fighters too|pg||
nt|oosmanb: dont know if 2@S makes for NS but its close |pg||
nt|garden2005: próba ¿¹d³a|pg||
nt|roswolf: west courageously sallies forth|pg||
nt|gracelin: I think West went to far by bidding 3D, showing D plus a major, at this Vul.|pg||
nt|gracelin: too|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: sorry|pg||
nt|roswolf: aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh|pg||
nt|ahollan1: could be opening bid with 3-fit that has no slam interest|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 1@s is limited here, hence the jump to 4@s|pg||
nt|ahollan1: as well as what standard players hold for 1-4|pg||
nt|bobholl: he simply asks him :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: difficult hand to handle here.  As it turns out 6 of either major makes with both majors 3-3.|pg||
nt|barnets: lucky major suit division here both 3-3|pg||
nt|ady: very favourable lay for n/s|pg||
nt|nkgupt: 3 finneses in :)|pg||
nt|brgpro: will be a quick claim...even when the declarer is Bauke!|pg||
mb|p|nt|ryskiel_: a w RP?|pg||
nt|boedhy:  doubleton @c helps but the good @d arent that much help|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes. The 5th trump is worth a couple of points, to compensate.|pg||
nt|brolucius: My comments are struggling to make it to the Netherlands, appearing after a time-delay of a few seconds. Perhaps someone is censoring them on the way.|pg||
nt|szalay: 3@D now, I think|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: South already passed|pg||
nt|roswolf: practical bidding|pg||
nt|ady: maybe diamond lead   free finess for a club pitch|pg||
nt|roswolf: might have been an excitinf auction the original thiugh:)|pg||
nt|gracelin: neither 3NT nor 4H makes.|pg||
nt|anton72: yes Dhondy open 1 @c 2 + cards ..and both swedish afraid from clubs :)|pg||
nt|anton72: go in 1 NT or in 2 @c|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: still, he has such a nice hand, i think he SHOULD go past game|pg||
nt|ady: nast lead for north|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: complimenting Bjarni on his average dummy putting :)|pg||
nt|antoniz: mo¿e by³o otwarcie !NT?|pg||
nt|sybarra: Brink finding 4 @C bid "amusing" |pg||
nt|olegario: Hello all, Thank you leao! olegario from Belo Horizonte, Brazil|pg||
nt|sybarra: and will W bid spades? or diamonds?|pg||
nt|ady: east may have trouble keeping trump control to bring in the diamonds|pg||
nt|ady: north considering playing the king|pg||
nt|bt: we have the same contract here, east will lead @HA and west discourage, then diamond shift|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@H usually forcing. If so, 3@H must mean a big two-suiter (or a splinter agreeing diamonds).|pg||
nt|barnets: Israel bid to 3N in open|pg||
nt|kit: I think Weinstein should just bid 4@S and end it.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Weinstein thinking...|pg||
nt|brgpro: so 1NT shows 7-10 both majors|pg||
nt|ahollan1: some might call that a pre-gloat|pg||
nt|brgpro: once Boccki didnt overcall in @h, they will have another potential win on this one|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Wijs will make simple noises to get more distribution info|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=4+@S 4+@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: unbalanced|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 6 imps?|pg||
nt|joest: in the other room the USA2 east-west bid to game in an uncontested auction|pg||
nt|joest: opened 1NT as west and got raised to 4H by east after Stayman|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Stansby would also open 1N  but  12-14|pg||
pc|h2|nt|athene: right, so i can believe THIS is keycard|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does 1@D imply unbalanced hand?|pg||
nt|lechcold: by³o|pg||
nt|kamyk: w tym rozdaniu Szwedzi lepiej policzyli punkty:)|pg||
nt|lechcold: B-N graj¹ 14-16|pg||
nt|lechcold: musieli zatem chyba graæ 2N co najmniej...|pg||
nt|lechcold: bez politycznych konotacji plis|pg||
nt|lechcold: :)|pg||
nt|lml: and we duplicate the auction in the OR|pg||
nt|yuval10: same bidding as in the OR here|pg||
nt|lml: :)|pg||
nt|lml: pretty clear to make 3 except if stansby gives a trick away on a diamond lead for an overtrick|pg||
nt|jbgood: the queen of spades was lead in the OR - and the slam made|pg||
nt|boedhy:  some sort of maximum now |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they found a 44 fit|pg||
nt|skaftij:  EW CC does not reveal their escape methods|pg||
nt|bt: its not only that Qx is bad, its a minus value|pg||
nt|ahollan1: very few pairs have ability to show @D at 2-level over 1N opener|pg||
nt|brgpro: S will pass|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i was wrong, it is 0-10 with 4-4 majors not 7-10|pg||
nt|joest: which is true to the Grue-Lall style.  It just didn't work on this hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry  3rd seat vul = 15-17|pg||
nt|joest: so USA1 headed for a 5 or 6 imp pickup here depending onhow many tricks Stansby takes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but i don't think he upgrades|pg||
pc|h4|nt|lml: south is not going to make this|pg||
nt|star6ija: should be|pg||
nt|lechcold: a to nie sz³o|pg||
nt|leao:  they're way too high now|pg||
nt|sybarra: all of them! |pg||
nt|ahollan1: tarzan did NOT DBL 4@H on  9|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Iceland got to 4@h on bd 9, undoubled though|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Al you are too fast!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: tarzan =  wijs-muller   sounds like name of movie's tarzan from 1930s/40s  Johnny Weissmuller|pg||
nt|szalay: who was Hungarian:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Hungarian??   i know he was olympic swimmer  but didn't know heritage|pg||
nt|szalay: we know it:)|pg||
nt|bobholl: 5@S is already a tad high|pg||
nt|brgpro: but if it is 0-6, he would pass 1@H|pg||
nt|ady: likely 9 tricks here|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|famus: U bet--but these guys are creating same feelings in every team they've encountered so far:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Lauria lays down @hs and @cs claiming 7 tricks|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: przecie¿ nie obowi¹zuje cisza wyborcza..|pg||
nt|kamyk: stary dylemat - kontrowac takie 4@C, czy nie; raz sie sobie pomo¿e, a raz im...|pg||
nt|boedhy:  4@c they wil have agreed on|pg||
nt|xenya: i'm cerrtain 3N will make on 9 in the other room|pg||
nt|brolucius: Excellent point! Yes, he needs the @DK set up before the clubs give a discard. |pg||
nt|runnerup: minor games are down with ruffs in other minor -if you has ny way to find such games|pg||
nt|dburn:  the English defenders had better be less afraid of clubs|pg||
nt|anton72: @d switch?....|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@S=5+5+|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: grali 1 BA - 3 BA|pg||
nt|brolucius: Exactly as Lars predicted.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Mind you, East should see that it is the main chance of beating the contract (if no trump trick is available). |pg||
nt|bt: every now and then i find a diamond in the rough, right?|pg||
nt|barnets: west passed in open  same bidding|pg||
nt|brolucius: A sensible auction.|pg||
nt|kit: Somehow that West hand just doesn't look like notrump to me.|pg||
nt|hantveit: must play spade to duck, and later take spade and play dia... hard to hold it too 9|pg||
pc|s6|nt|lechcold: 3 by³o szwole¿erskie:)|pg||
nt|leao:  hard to diagnos a double now|pg||
nt|brolucius: Also, on occasions partner would 'come again' over 4@S.|pg||
nt|roswolf: how many hcp does 2nt show 21-22?|pg||
nt|bobholl: kib's remark a good save against 5@H but i guess that's not making|pg||
pc|s5|nt|boedhy:  so maximum with @s and maybe even cue|pg||
nt|boedhy:  aiiiiii....|pg||
nt|oosmanb: on same lead?|pg||
nt|antoniz: ciekawie siê zrobi³o|pg||
nt|kamyk: spójrzcie na 25. w otwartym - radosny bryd¿:)|pg||
pc|sK|nt|lml: of course hearts could have behaved better|pg||
nt|boedhy:  not good|pg||
nt|boedhy:  but Brink should go on I think|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Iceland missed it|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: indeed they did'|pg||
nt|bt: without diamond king west encourages|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: góral mo¿e przynieæ niedu¿y zysk, ale czy musi?|pg||
nt|xenya: not a contract to be in when you are late|pg||
nt|barnets: dec needed 1 major suit to break to make 3n so was fortunate|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|lml: if south had opened a strong 2@C what would have happened I wonder|pg||
nt|antoniz: czyli 2NT graæ musieli,trudno|pg||
nt|pawel90:  raczej sami bÄdziemy wistowaÄ|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: can he make it?|pg||
nt|skaftij:  1 NT showed 14-16 so W could have a minor jack |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: south in deep thought|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: cards on the table|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: back in hand now|pg||
nt|skaftij:  South has 2 entries to dummy in @c so will play towards @sAJ since East is known to have @SKQ|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and back on the table they go|pg||
nt|skaftij:  but he does not know te @c layout yet|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: cards in hand|pg||
nt|kit: exactly -- 4@S can stand some bad splits.  3NT maybe not.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: weinstein : i am not claiming but i will show you my hand loool|pg||
nt|gracelin: 20-21, with 22-23 they open 2D and rebid 2NT.  with 23+, 2C then 2NT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@D =(65)11|pg||
nt|brgpro: W has to settle for 3NT now...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: one more ask shows specific shape|pg||
pc|d4|nt|wild card: this contract will purely depend on a heart decision|pg||
nt|antoniz: idzie 6kier,to dobrze|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 4 pasy zostaly na razie wpisane, bo w rozdaniu bylo tylko 48 kart|pg||
nt|jbgood: but in @cs always 2 club losers|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: only a @C lead lets it make..|pg||
nt|jbgood: so 17 imps for Sweden|pg||
nt|garden2005: kiwki i wolnoamerykanka ... czy tak powinnimy wygrywaæ?|pg||
nt|szalay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Weissmuller|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hiding @D2  so that @D8 is hard to read   [upside-down attitude]|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and the israeli boys in one voice: you make everything lool |pg||
nt|roswolf: ty patrick|pg||
nt|gracelin: 2D opening can also be a weak two in either major|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer doesn't know the bad trump split yet.  He's working on how to make on 3-2 break|pg||
nt|roswolf: dont think this is ever makeable i fancy -2|pg||
nt|gracelin: The other room is commentated by Italian. They must not like what's going on.|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: thanks  quick scan of notes made me think 1@C or 1N with all balanced hands up to 19 HCP|pg||
nt|ady: set up the long diamon   got 4 diamonds  2 hearts and 1 spade|pg||
nt|lechcold: dwie nadróbki...dobrze ¿e m³odzie amerykañska nie popêdzi³a do szlemika kierowego|pg||
nt|ady: heart now|pg||
nt|skaftij:  A @d to dummy may risk 2@h 1S and 2@d for the defense. Declarer does not like it until he sees @c situation|pg||
nt|skaftij:  but he will play a @c to dummy|pg||
nt|brgpro: maybe 10|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think he'll run trump|pg||
nt|brgpro: small chance when @dQjx falls 3rd|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|skaftij:  after escape method , he will infer that  @C are 4-2, west showed 4+@C-4+@H|pg||
nt|brgpro: then he can make the rest|pg||
nt|joest: Stansby playing spades this way in case South has Qx or Jx|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@S  =  5611|pg||
nt|ahollan1: might try 4@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Lauria playing 3@H|pg||
nt|brgpro: there are 9 tricks in 3NT ( w/o @s lead)|pg||
nt|brgpro: @s lead against 3NT will make this hand very complicated|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H should include at least 2 controls  A=2 K=1|pg||
nt|brgpro: 3NT will get @c10 lead for sure...with @d 3-3. easy 9 tricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@H made 5|pg||
pc|c8|nt|lml: I like a spade play now ... @SQ or jack|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 4@c maybe after 2@c opening|pg||
nt|ady: running the 9 guaranteed 7 tricks  and in the event did not cost|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: claim and toilet break|pg||
nt|ahollan1: as expected Aronov going down 2 in 4@S on  8|pg||
nt|ady: usa got 6 imps on hand 8 where Bulgaria were to high in 4@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thru 6 boards   in Bermuda Bowl  Guadalupe leads Iceland by 19 imps|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and we are back|pg||
nt|wild card: and I think it best to play the jack|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer's main line is to ruff a club and discard one on the good spade. but he also worry about D ruff|pg||
nt|roswolf: well the ether will certainly be full of hot air tinged with woe no doubt - but they are allowed a bad set sometime:)|pg||
pc|cT|nt|athene: if you had a choice of 3@S or 4@C to splinter, 3@S looks better, as partner has more room over it|pg||
nt|lml: good play|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: tough for W now|pg||
nt|rnmalik: agree.|pg||
nt|wild card: but if he plays the jack, the contract will fail, as we see|pg||
nt|wild card: N did show two aces though|pg||
nt|wild card: and if he had had a singleton hearts, he might have had a bid over 1@d|pg||
nt|rnmalik: imo it is a pure guess.|pg||
nt|wild card: looking only at the heart position, I guess it's better to play the jack|pg||
nt|wild card: wins if south has AQx in trumps|pg||
nt|meargent: trump usually best lead on this sort of auction but easts duck suprising|pg||
pc|cK|nt|athene: but anyway, they got there|pg||
nt|boedhy:  well done|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: its a very good one and nothing much to the play|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: so well done NL another derserved big plus|pg||
nt|boedhy:  no problems in the play so 13 imps to the netherlands...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: very well bid by NS here|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: really "communicating" |pg||
nt|kiwibridge: Iceland have been pushed down to 6th and this won't help|pg||
nt|skaftij:  clubs is only chance - he knows D finesse is wrong|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: cards back on the table|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: cards stil placed on the table and thinking...|pg||
nt|garden2005: zazwyczaj taki styl reprezntuj¹ pary, ktore maja kompleks ni¿szoci i próbuj¹ w pokerka zagraæ|pg||
nt|bobholl: one more match in 15 minutes :) have fun|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|leao:  Campos will try to get tricks anyway he can now :)|pg||
nt|boedhy:  although if he tries to ruff a @c ... but the @c queen should bother him|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Iceland has a tough "program" for the day|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: has to play Israel in the last match this afternoon|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: only needs 1 @C ruff so playing trumps safe|pg||
nt|runnerup: this was down -not any more?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: the time is almost up and 6 more boards to play|pg||
nt|nkgupt: same contract from S OR|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nope  should trust Jack|pg||
pc|h5|nt|ryskiel_: mo¿e tylko 200?|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: GIB podobno nawet wygrywa|pg||
nt|roswolf: they are only mortals not gods!|pg||
nt|gracelin: sure. like 2007 against S. Africa|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry that was supposed to be private  and different hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@D forced 4@H|pg||
pc|h8|nt|xenya: S had a difficult decision to make, and he banked on 5 hearts with N -- N could have just 4, Al?|pg||
nt|ady: same 11 tricks    a push|pg||
nt|ahollan1: "end signal"|pg||
pc|h3|nt|xenya: on any lead i guess|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: the director in the room|pg||
nt|xenya: so they will be penalised, which is good news for Japan, who are trailing NZ by 1VP|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: mr Slavek Latala|pg||
nt|dburn:  but this is setting up winners for declarer|pg||
nt|brgpro: Bocchi is surprised they ended up in a suit he wanted to overcall against str. @c|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Wijs  PASS or makes signoff|pg||
nt|brgpro: can he handle the 6-0 break?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: looking at all hands YES    playing single dummy at the table -- not as easy|pg||
nt|rv: tough to handle 6-0 break, if he finesses this may have a chance|pg||
nt|brgpro: if he finesses, he shd make for sure but i doubt he would do so|pg||
nt|ahollan1: first question for us --- is there a downside to finesse @D?|pg||
nt|brgpro: so after @d A, unblock @cA then a @h...looks normal|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Brink in 3@CX South|pg||
nt|rv: will be costly for Dutch|pg||
nt|rv: 3@c double is terrible contract for declarer|pg||
nt|brgpro: he has 5 side tricks, so need 5 trumps...can he handle that?|pg||
nt|brgpro: his @h86 looks nice though|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry  it is Drijver playing in North   but still ugly contract|pg||
nt|rv: he starts of @DA, ruff, @CA, @SA, @ck, @CQ, @s/@c ruff, may have a chance|pg||
nt|brgpro: think if he goes up the @dA, he might need to ruff a @d first|pg||
nt|brgpro: then @cA and a @h|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Madala's choice of @D10  muddies the waters|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: the french women were also in 3@cX, -1400!|pg||
nt|rv: that line could work, all-in-all if he can makes could lose a bushel of IMPs|pg||
nt|brgpro: unlikely to finesse now, so he will go up the A ...and need to ruff one first i believe!|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|runnerup: he ruffed too high -so back to minus|pg||
nt|dburn:  not enough of them, fortunately, but...|pg||
nt|mdgraham: only six|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: actually lall returned @d10 earlier|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ostensibly 10 shows Jack   so expet shortness|pg||
pc|sA|nt|lml: probably down 2|pg||
nt|lml: declarer has 7 top tricks and probably has to come to a black suit trick|pg||
nt|lml: a balck suit queen|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: no entries to the dummy|pg||
nt|wild card: well done robert stephens|pg||
nt|lml: nice try to set up a heart by no luck|pg||
nt|gracelin: Even God may not be able to save Madala on this 4H :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: the italian lead is only 9 and bds 23-25 have not been scored yet|pg||
pc|s2|nt|lml: Martel might rise on the club to lead a diamond through|pg||
nt|lml: makes it easier on partner|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: every team desperate to make the top 8 as we near the end of the RR|pg||
nt|roswolf: the AZZURRI tell me to try and spell :(|pg||
pc|s3|nt|vugraphznv: the 1@h interference by W in the other room made it more difficult|pg||
nt|mdgraham: still, Manchester City were quite happy with six yesterday |pg||
nt|anton72: i am happy for citizens too :))|pg||
nt|mdgraham: the United fans weren't..... |pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|ady: last hand  if the cards shown on the screen were correct then 10 tricks were there   north has discarded too many diamonds|pg||
nt|leao:  good news, the king is on side, but bad news is it's Kxxx|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Secured 1 down|pg||
pc|s4|nt|bt: decl needs @CK onside then east doesnt have @SQ|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: They lost another 7 on board 7|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: sorry board 22|pg||
nt|gracelin: thjis culd be a huge set for China, but don't forget there are still 32 boards to go.|pg||
nt|roswolf: 38-3 to china this set after bd22 - with more imps to come|pg||
nt|roswolf: this set reminds me of the leaning tower of pisa|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|lml: dont you like good partners like that|pg||
nt|bt: it wasnt magic, lol|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he is guesseing the spades because of lack of entries|pg||
pc|s7|nt|ady: better for north now to draw last trump  |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: it seems|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: really Jan?|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: lol|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: it seems so|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: :)|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Iceland still more then a match away from 9th place so no real problems yet|pg||
nt|davidstern: The eight card suit scrambled my video and I had to reopen BBO :(|pg||
nt|rv: great displined pass by Bocchi here|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|szalay: as we thought: he made it|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|gracelin: But I am sure the bet station still give higher odds for Italy to win.|pg||
nt|gracelin: I woud have led S10 instead of a club.|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes but italy will be grateful there are at least 2 full sets after this one|pg||
nt|brgpro: now declarer has some entry problems, likely to make 9 only|pg||
nt|brgpro: well...now..dont think he can handle it any more...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: make this   lose 13   down = lose 17|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|nt|szalay: sry|pg||
nt|szalay: 1 off|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|antoniz: tylko -3|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: but i cannot always see it, because he holds his hand on the cards|pg||
nt|ady: terrible for defenders|pg||
nt|ahollan1: curiously  doesn't matter if down 1, 2 or 3  in this part of the Imp Scale|pg||
mc|9|nt|leao:  clb now|pg||
nt|leao:  nice going, making drijver ruff pards trick|pg||
nt|rv: Italians have raised their game when it mattered most, true sign of great players|pg||
nt|rv: this segment could prove decisive in final analyses|pg||
nt|rv: very little to separate these 2 fine teams till yesterday, first time either team has opened up a sizeable lead, it is upto Dutch to dig deep and fight-back|pg||
nt|ahollan1: through 10  Italy leads Netherlands  by 17|pg||
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qx|o11|st||md|1S872HAQ85D5CKJ983,SAQ964H9DQJ842C42,S3H743DAKT76CAQ76,SKJT5HKJT62D93CT5|sv|o|nt|kit: big swing -|pg||
nt|gavin:  yes likely only 6 imps out but an opportunity to pick up a game swing missed|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|gavin:  stansby and martel arent known for their 14 opposite 9 , no singleton games|pg||
mb|d|nt|kit: I believe Grue played Levin for queen of hearts since no trump lead -- he knows Levin led from an unattractive holding, and might have led a trump with nothing in trumps.|pg||
mb|4S|mb|4N!|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|gavin:  4NT two places to play|pg||
nt|kit: Weinstein take the push -- and it looks like 5@C comes home.|pg||
nt|gavin:  levin bids 5@C because he is catering to partner having @C + @H|pg||
mb|6C|nt|gavin:  a 5@D bid would risk partner bidding 5@H|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Unfortunately, this undoes the good work.  |pg||
nt|kit: Would make if diamonds 4-3, but they aren't.|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|kit: So he will have to lose a heart trick in the end.|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|c7|pc|sT|nt|warrens:  needs 4-3 @D's (or QJx) plus 2-2 trump plus K of @H onside|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|warrens:  a tall order|pg||
nt|kit: Sort of unlucky.  If Levin's king of diamonds were the king of hearts this slam would be a lot better.  Still, I think the bid was pretty optimistic.|pg||
nt|gavin:  QJx of diamonds + 2-2 trumps would be enough|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|cA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
nt|gavin:  or QJ of diamonds with 4 hearts|pg||
pc|c9|nt|gavin:  and the heart king onside, which it looks like he is playing for|pg||
pc|s6|pc|h4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c8|pc|sQ|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|d2|pc|d6|nt|kit: Yes, he is playing for the squeeze.  Doesnt' feel like right line to me.|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|dK|pc|sK|pc|h5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hA|mc|11|pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1S872HAQ85D5CKJ983,SAQ964H9DQJ842C42,S3H743DAKT76CAQ76,SKJT5HKJT62D93CT5|sv|o|nt|skaftij:  another ordinary 3 NT|pg||
nt|odysseus69: and another comfotable 3NT|pg||
nt|leao:  rite|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he played that one nicely I think|pg||
nt|ady: yes    |pg||
nt|kiwibridge: vwd NL|pg||
nt|boedhy:  for quarter final they have big problems. Maybe the Netherlands will choose them (because of the carry-over...)or they will be playing USA 1 |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and 24-24 |pg||
nt|bt: any easy 7@S, can ns compete enough?|pg||
nt|mikael_w: od fold, A/Q|pg||
nt|runnerup: ok -made it -so |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: the director just said 5 mins per board |pg||
nt|ahollan1: Lall-Grue on same board  so Nystrom-Bertheau must really be slow|pg||
nt|ady: yes   seems now only 620 in OR|pg||
nt|gracelin: Well done by Madala to hold it yo -1|pg||
nt|kit: what a fitter this one is -- 6-6 in hearts|pg||
nt|joest: almost the identical spread as here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does he open this too?     i bet yes|pg||
mb|1C|nt|leao:  they got off it cheaply at 200|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: I really though this would be closer|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: The icelandic pair in this room was yesterday sure that the Netherlands would pick them if they had a chance to do so|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Might be a small pick up for Sweden last board|pg||
nt|garden2005: zyska³ 13 w 26, bilans -2|pg||
nt|garden2005: -3|pg||
nt|roswolf: on bd 23 lauria bid 4@S in the other room and gt doubled -88 and -14 imps|pg||
mb|1S|nt|athene: pakistan might get an imp on 24|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: martel has a good hand|pg||
nt|lechcold: szlem graniczny, zobaczymy jak naszym pójdzie|pg||
nt|oosmanb: if they stop in 2@H|pg||
nt|xenya: Match A Open Room will be kept open to announce the quarterfinal pairings|pg||
nt|bobholl: 1 imp gain for italy (other room @C lead from west)|pg||
nt|brgpro: this should buy the contract|pg||
nt|kit: Weinstein might well have opened a weak 2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: set score  6-6|pg||
nt|joest: at the other table, Weinstein-Levin had their bidding shoes and got to slam|pg||
nt|ahollan1: buckle up kids|pg||
nt|joest: South passed as dealer (not surprisingly) and Grue opened 2@s as west, also not surprisingly|pg||
nt|ahollan1: only USA2 opening PASS are surprising|pg||
mb|3D!|an|club fit as well|nt|athene: missing @HJ10xx you cash the single honour first because you can only pick up 4-0 break one way|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 2H both majors - popular weapon|pg||
nt|yuval10: you can read more about the Bermuda Bowl, particularely the US teams and the Israeli one too, plus expert analyzes, on www.bridgewinners.com|pg||
nt|lml: I am quite impressed with the bridge in this match.  What do you think?|pg||
nt|jbgood: 6 boards to go here|pg||
nt|garden2005: ale witne zagranie zaliczy³ :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=15-17  EXCEPT  1st seat favoralbe|pg||
nt|kit: That would have given Levin a better perspective of what is going on|pg||
nt|joest: 2@d and 3@s both strike me as reasonably calls|pg||
nt|ahollan1: fit showing JS ??|pg||
nt|joest: and if 3@d is fit-showing (which it obviously is) that is a great call too|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Neatherlands about to play 5@C xx in this hand|pg||
mb|4S|nt|athene: if you had the 10 you would cash the honour from hand first as you can pick up Jxxx in either hand|pg||
nt|athene: japan might get their first imp there, if East in the other room leads his ace against six|pg||
nt|athene: (i am sure bocchi madala will reach six)|pg||
nt|lml: well Baxter's choice of 2@S turned out to be a good choice although perhaps south would still have bid 3NT|pg||
nt|lml: so Canada has the lead again|pg||
nt|lechcold: 3BA to Splinter karowy jak s¹dzê|pg||
nt|antoniz: splinter karowy|pg||
nt|leao:  \i expect board 24 will show a tidy profit for the Netherlands|pg||
nt|sybarra: they can beat 4 @H  but have to take their tricks  |pg||
nt|bt: now some people can bid 2@S strong on that hand, wouldnt that be nice?|pg||
nt|brolucius: In NT it is a 5-or-7 hand, depending on whether the clubs come in. 7@S much better, because you can establish the clubs against a 4-1 break.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this looks like a very biddable grand slam|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@H now would suggest diamond support, because he is a passed hand.|pg||
nt|bt: west can splinter in diamonds, east blackwood and 5NT maybe?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 7@S needs almost nothing|pg||
nt|hlortz: ew had a rather hasty auction in OR   seems like there might be some bids between 2n and 6n imo |pg||
nt|bt: credit to the 2@H opening at the other table|pg||
nt|garden2005: przepraszam za gubienie literek, obiecujê poprawê|pg||
nt|dburn:  unclear, this - East-West at the other table got to 4@h, which they might or might not have been going to make|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that is the most brutal part about being vugraph operator -- players who don't let you see cards played|pg||
nt|pbundy: this seems like a boring one - but - with these 4 you never know!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H game force|pg||
nt|jbennet: Interesting hand if north had bid 3NT. |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they have a discussion if Sjoert has 7 or 6 @D since they have a 2@D opening as weak with @D|pg||
nt|meargent: personally i prefer 1@H with a 7 loser|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=11-15 HCP, (3)4+@D, unbal, 3@D if (41)35, maybe 2245|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 3+|pg||
mb|5C|nt|athene: if they can take the club finesse and make 11 in 3nt|pg||
nt|stoffers: A lot of dull boards this set|pg||
nt|odysseus69: north will be shaking but impossible to find 2Hx|pg||
nt|ady: 3NT  slight over statement    but 2NT could be much weaker in balancing seat  and very good stops in hearts   just have to play partner with enough  to make game   7 or 8 points ...|pg||
nt|ady: may do|pg||
nt|yuval10: Israel is currently being featured on the front page there|pg||
nt|garden2005: wietne*|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H = @H & minor|pg||
nt|joest: Wooldridge has a minimumbut he does have five clubs and he knows he has no spade wastage|pg||
mb|p|nt|kemperg: Have to leave now, bye all|pg||
nt|athene: make 10 sry|pg||
nt|famus: wud b good for morale:)|pg||
nt|lechcold: proste rodki:)|pg||
nt|lechcold: Martens nie ma wyjcia:)|pg||
nt|kamyk: szlem graniczny? Ile tu sie musi udac, ¿eby wzi¹æ 13 lew|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: atuciana 5 BA|pg||
nt|antoniz: jak masz AKD w kierach to licytuj 7kier|pg||
nt|lechcold: odpowiadaj¹ na atutow¹ pewnie szczeblami, zatem z dwoma honorami Martens zg³osi³by 6@H|pg||
nt|xenya: 1@DX -1 might not be such a bad result for Israel |pg||
nt|oosmanb: wow nice hand|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Very nice. Easy when you see all hands, the players need to do this again and againn for days and tiredness creeps in|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: West said : only this partner|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@D pre-emptive, of course, since he can cue-bid with a good raise.|pg||
nt|hlortz: that was a factor certainly|pg||
nt|bt: i think 4@D makes it a lot easier here|pg||
nt|runnerup: perhaps the lack of time made swedish do that little slip in defence|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: nystrom seems very fast...|pg||
nt|kit: 2@H a good 2@S raise I believe.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2h=9-11 3 spades|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Levin just wrote it down|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@S would promise 6+|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: well, i have to guess sometimes. is an interesting game :)|pg||
nt|kit: where does the bidding stop?|pg||
nt|kit: Problem now is Levin doesn't know who's hand it is.  He would opposite a 2@H opener.|pg||
nt|meargent: for EW it better stop here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H=<FG or wrong for relay, 4+@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: I am not sure about that last result ... looked like 2 down not 1 down|pg||
nt|star6ija: I do not expect they to go further than 3N|pg||
nt|sybarra: oh oh |pg||
nt|ahollan1: hard to penalize this|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but DBL would work very well|pg||
nt|skaftij:  well the gain is only 50|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznv: i asked them and the claim was for 1 down, 1 also though like 2 down|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I asked them|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C=ART FG  a) @C  b) 4@H  c) long @S|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: impodajny to ten mecz nie jest|pg||
nt|yuval10: me too Linda, those are very strong 2 teams|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: as I said earlier -- they were being beaten heavily in the test match |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Running scores > http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, that is usually the case. 4@D does not show more than 4@S. It shows one of the reasons WHY you are worth 4@S. |pg||
nt|bt: if north bids 5@D it would have been tough|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: bertheau for sure slower than nystrom|pg||
nt|kit: 2NT probably some weak competitive hand, while a 3-level call would be constructive.|pg||
nt|brolucius: I wonder if he could have doubled to show hearts.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Seems clear to show them now.|pg||
nt|kit: maybe double shows only 4 hearts|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: South in the tank now|pg||
nt|dburn:  but my vote would be for "not", since I can't see a tenth winner for them|pg||
nt|jbennet: BBO lead.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C can be 5/4 either way|pg||
pc|h9|nt|ahollan1: he actually has 2 of the 3 options covered|pg||
nt|stoffers: We want action and blood :)|pg||
nt|wild card: not the first time we see a transfer on one level today|pg||
nt|ady: this might be 1 too high|pg||
nt|odysseus69: now it becomes interesting|pg||
nt|ady: only 9 obvious tricks including K@S|pg||
nt|sybarra: E may bid again and he did |pg||
nt|skaftij:  risk is losing double digit imps|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry  dummy has 3@C  looked like 2 before|pg||
nt|ady: 1 too high|pg||
nt|ady: in hearts I meant|pg||
nt|roswolf: can e/w cash their tricks here|pg||
nt|joest: yes Wooldridge did a lot of bidding but in standard, partner is under a lot of pressure when he doesn't know whether youhave opened a three card club suit or not|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: "i probably have too much" said Hurd|pg||
nt|joest: so barring an accident this will be 10 imps to USA2|pg||
pc|h3|nt|udo: i played against Lauria-Versace 3 or 4 times,,,when they are on a run,, u feel pressure every second|pg||
nt|athene: slam is not so bad here, if played by north to protect the @CK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@D asks|pg||
nt|star6ija: 2 and a half :)|pg||
nt|antoniz: brawo Krzysztofy,piêknie i skutecznie|pg||
nt|lechcold: co siê musi udaæ, w koñcu to Mistrzostwa Swiata:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: looks like making 10 with @S start|pg||
nt|ady: I believe the 2 heart opening shows 5 hearts and 4 spades|pg||
nt|odysseus69: can do it - spade and South must play 10 then 2nd spade (9) and can establish spade trick|pg||
nt|odysseus69: or can end play North|pg||
nt|ady: I think J@S  may be right|pg||
nt|ady: J@S    if south covers with the queen   then king    come back to east and low spade|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: sorry, problem with loading the board again|pg||
nt|rv: re all, sry lost conn, welcome back|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: but back live again now|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ady: 3NT  best spot|pg||
nt|ahollan1: :)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: szczêliwie ju¿ po dwóch przebitkach karasi rozdanie siê koñczy|pg||
nt|lechcold: trzecia dziesi¹tka kier po³o¿y³aby ten kontakt, o ile nie spada³by trzeci mariasz w kierach|pg||
nt|olegario: ohoh now :) too high up again|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: after the lead declarer claims making 5|pg||
nt|oosmanb: 5@d makeable as the hand is|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: so no play here :)|pg||
nt|kit: I can't imagine what South could do but bid 4@H|pg||
nt|roswolf: china need to keep their foot on the italians throat - score the imps now and dont delay|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|athene: but south has the diamonds so it would have to be 6nt (or 6@S, but that is not likely)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@H=4@H    totally new concept|pg||
nt|lechcold: 3@H = 5@S-4@H|pg||
nt|yuval10: i'm very much impressed with how the Israeli team are playing here, and we must not forget it's a rather young one, most of them age nearly 40|pg||
nt|lml: there is no reason for south to pull with JX of diamonds|pg||
nt|jbgood: a slightly different auction gave more room for NS than in the OR - and may land in thispartial|pg||
nt|panosk: looks like a gd contract |pg||
nt|panosk: lead will provide 9th trick|pg||
nt|boedhy:  I can imagine why. They play solid easy bridge as we can see from these boards|pg||
nt|boedhy:  so normally the better team wins then....And I think the Netherlands are a bit better ...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: very solid indeed|pg||
nt|szalay: boring 1 off|pg||
nt|ahollan1: early World Championships were scored Total Points|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so here  NS would be net +50 after 100 honors|pg||
nt|ahollan1: honors died when Imps came into use|pg||
nt|kit: But now I know.|pg||
nt|brolucius: How can they miss a 5-4 fit in the 'other major'?|pg||
nt|barnets: 2n clearly misunderstood|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2nt was competitive at the 3 level|pg||
nt|kit: This is a major mixup.  South apparently thought 3@S asked for a spade stopper.  North thought 2NT then 3NT showed notrump.|pg||
nt|dburn:  still, North bid 5@d just in case either it made or 4@h would have done|pg||
nt|jbennet: banging down an ace. |pg||
nt|ahollan1: hearing Angelini might not qualify for next day of Transnational   and surely that team was heavy favorite with anchor pairs of Fantoni-Nunes & Meckstroth-Rodwell|pg||
pc|d5|nt|odysseus69: all reasonable plays produce a 10th trck|pg||
nt|bt: 5nt then 7@S looks easy now|pg||
nt|brolucius: Now after all the key cards are known 5NT will invite a grand and West will accept with those clubs.|pg||
nt|gracelin: they tried here, but with trumps 4-1, probably dwn.|pg||
nt|roswolf: 4@H seems pre-destined for team orange here|pg||
pc|d2|nt|famus: 6NT wud be great|pg||
nt|athene: north may now offer 6@D|pg||
nt|athene: but it's tricky|pg||
nt|athene: good hand but no aces|pg||
nt|lechcold: karach:)|pg||
nt|jbgood: well - looks as if 2@h was gf...|pg||
nt|leao:  rite, if they dont take their 4 tricks kickly they wont take them at all|pg||
nt|brolucius: Even if it meant 'two places to play', it seems it was misjudged with 5 cards in the other major.|pg||
nt|roswolf: ouch not a good time to save|pg||
nt|mdgraham: this might make, if North just cashes @sAK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@D is non-serious slam try|pg||
nt|jbennet: not entirely cast-iron.|pg||
nt|pbundy: as we saw just a few boards ago, getting to the five level would make it far less boring|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 3NT over 3@s would be natural grue says|pg||
nt|pbundy: w/d by n/s not to get too high|pg||
pc|dA|nt|udo: nice bid by South,,now North shoudl accept,,, he has a clear max|pg||
nt|wild card: interesting question is, what would redouble instead of 1@s mean|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I believe 1@s did show a 3crd|pg||
nt|wild card: and does dbl on 1@h show a takeout hand (like this), or something in hearts|pg||
nt|lechcold: bardzo ostro|pg||
nt|pawel90:  trzeba karo trafiÄ|pg||
nt|antoniz: trafi karko i super|pg||
nt|leao:  not a chance now|pg||
nt|desinka:  looks like flat board to me|pg||
nt|ady: looks like 11 tricks|pg||
nt|ady: yes|pg||
nt|desinka:  EW play kind of polish club|pg||
nt|barnets: south should have x 2@H or bid 3@H|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Shi thinks the same I think, talking chinese I think, don't understand anything|pg||
nt|brgpro: but will lose an imp here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: you think West auction too revealling  so non-@S lead?|pg||
nt|brgpro: trump lead...A and H...then take first @c and play a @d...|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|lechcold: podzia³ kar i trafienie palcówki potrzebne|pg||
nt|xenya: hmm|pg||
nt|lml: Matel has to pick a major with 3-3|pg||
nt|desinka:  depends from the vuln|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but i always wonder what it would be like to revive them in a duplicate setting|pg||
nt|barnets: that is clear|pg||
nt|ady: A@C lead did not cost  but continuation did|pg||
nt|ady: but contract always there|pg||
nt|brgpro: even 4 is in danger...|pg||
nt|brgpro: well, since @c9 falls 3rd...|pg||
pc|d6|nt|skaftij:  Is it Ilan or Ophir who is South?|pg||
nt|brolucius: No, he has just shown the @CK. I was not expecting that.|pg||
nt|bt: now if east thinks and does bid 6@S ...|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 5NT not only asks for kings, also for a trick source which woolridge has|pg||
nt|brolucius: Makes no sense if West bids 7@S now. Why not on the previous round?|pg||
nt|bt: i thenk the us2 coach should do some work here|pg||
nt|garden2005: bêd¹ p¹czki|pg||
nt|xenya: this will also take some time -- before it goes down|pg||
nt|kit: A lead with a plan -- ace of clubs, club to king, club ruff.  Unfortunately, partner has neither king of clubs nor a third club.|pg||
nt|brgpro: and the 4th @C is with the long trump...so no danger at all...|pg||
pc|d9|nt|famus: swing|pg||
nt|athene: well, this might make|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and now the lead // who would lead a @c|pg||
nt|athene: lauria did not double 3@C|pg||
nt|athene: but the italians don't double these bids very often|pg||
nt|athene: so versace might still lead a club|pg||
nt|famus: i bet a @c lead|pg||
nt|udo: @C looks like he natural lead........maybe a @D|pg||
nt|athene: i think it's close between club and spade|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he is not "that great"|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Ilan is south|pg||
nt|bt: if east thought and then bid 6@S they are toast|pg||
nt|ady: now losing 300    4 imps  instead of gaining aroound 5   still easier to decide from here|pg||
nt|mdgraham: and might very well do just that, as there are no entries to dummy for the spade finesse |pg||
nt|mdgraham: now if the diamonds had been 2-2....|pg||
nt|dburn:  this isn't the clearest opening lead in the world, either|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh  then 4@D just a cue    thanks Dennis|pg||
pc|c8|nt|vugraphznv: :)|pg||
nt|udo: 13 now|pg||
nt|panosk: see how long he thinks to make sure of finding the correct plan even in a seemingly straightforward contract?|pg||
nt|roswolf: on bd 24 the chinese stayed low in 4@H AND just made it|pg||
nt|roswolf: the chinese have scored 62 unanswered imps in 6 bds|pg||
nt|dburn:  so there is some chance declarer may lose only one club|pg||
nt|jbennet: only overtricks at stake.|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|famus: might lose an imp or two here--coz the Ita wud b in 6NT if at all|pg||
nt|ady: this will likely make in spite of bad split|pg||
nt|yuval10: that won't be a big success for USA1|pg||
nt|lml: so this is how you can end in a 3-3 fit friends even when you are great players|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Against aggresive teams as India for instance yesterday you can loose because of some slem boards who happen to make|pg||
nt|runnerup: one down next -save time |pg||
nt|roswolf: however you can never write off the azurri|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ady: ok now|pg||
nt|odysseus69: all over - now 11 but he wont want to get greedy again|pg||
nt|yuval10: with the natural @h lead the contract seem like drifting at least 3|pg||
nt|xenya: W didn't know E had the @D10 when he ran|pg||
nt|lml: I like a trump lead and so does South!|pg||
nt|lml: it was a reasonable action by Stansby but it worked out badly|pg||
nt|hlortz: and 6@s must be in temo or 7S ot allowed|pg||
nt|hlortz: /tempo/|pg||
nt|brolucius: Well, they got there but no 'points for style'.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: here i dont think tempo matters since 5NT confirmed all the key cards|pg||
nt|anton72: they can give entry :) in clubs ...last one :)|pg||
pc|c2|nt|leao:  300|pg||
nt|ady: can cash the diamond now or have it later     east will finesse 10@D for 11 tricks|pg||
nt|ady: yes    may be 500   depemding on how it goes |pg||
nt|roswolf: these hands are so dipirting yo play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on 24   5@DX was down 1|pg||
nt|davidstern: Just done some small maths on X opposite AKT8652 and marginally better to play AK but very little in it|pg||
nt|rv: according to Zia, 3 top "at the table" card players are Helgemo, Meckstorth and Madala|pg||
pc|c6|nt|ady: defence just has trump tricks|pg||
nt|boedhy:  will not make this|pg||
nt|gracelin: will be more on the 790 hand.|pg||
nt|rv: just to complete last conversation|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|szalay: as 1 kib said: good save vs. 4@S|pg||
nt|dburn:  something like that|pg||
nt|jbennet: much more intersting if north had bid 3nt and got a spade lead.|pg||
nt|nkgupt: other tbl preempted 4@d|pg||
pc|c3|nt|nkgupt: and did not get a @cA lead|pg||
pc|c4|nt|athene: well, if bocchi-madala play 6nt from north side, Pakistan can feel it is just not their day|pg||
nt|stoffers: Got to go, thx all and see you :)|pg||
nt|skaftij:  True Viking attitude :-)|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: wow   @HK put declarer in danger of going down|pg||
nt|roswolf: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm for scores etc|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|athene: can cash @SAK and play three rounds of trumps now to force east to give a ruff and discard|pg||
nt|athene: but it doesn't help|pg||
nt|athene: you can throw the club loser from dummy and ruff in hand but then dummy has only one trump to deal with two club losers|pg||
nt|athene: so one down|pg||
nt|athene: west didn't want to shift to the @CQ because declarer could have stiff king (four clubs with east for the double)|pg||
nt|athene: sorry five|pg||
nt|jbgood: if clubs dont break he has 9 if the diamond finesse is on - nothing works|pg||
nt|boedhy:  two off....|pg||
pc|dK|nt|skaftij:  Thx Christer|pg||
nt|kit: The normal and cold 4@H reached in the other room, so big pickup for USA1|pg||
nt|brolucius: A run of poorish boards for the Israel N/S.|pg||
nt|roswolf: this certainly sets up the last 2 sets nicely|pg||
nt|anton72: hm|pg||
nt|joest: trumps 22 so that will speed up the play |pg||
pc|h2|nt|lechcold: ale dla odmiany @H10 u N lub S czyni szlema bardzo dobrym kontraktem|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: We wroc³awiu poci¹g jest ko³o po³udnia...zaraz sprawdzê dok³¹dniej|pg||
nt|brolucius: West is adding possible ruffing tricks in diamonds too, so he surely had a 7@S bid on the previous round.|pg||
nt|ady: can get to the spade discard and ruff a diamond|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: not as much as technical card players, but practical card players|pg||
mc|11|nt|vugraphznv: another squeeze coming up|pg||
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qx|o12|st||md|2S96HAKDAKJ32CQJ85,SAKJ7HQT2DQT54CT2,ST4H9754D76CAK643,SQ8532HJ863D98C97|sv|n|nt|davidstern: 5@C here for N/S perhaps|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2H!|nt|kit: Shows 5 spades, 4 or 5 hearts, no game interest|pg||
nt|warrens:  that's for sure!|pg||
nt|davidstern: Yes as noted will be tough to get there|pg||
nt|kit: And gives Weinstein a headache|pg||
mb|d|mb|3S|nt|kit: they might stuble into it if Levin bids 4@C|pg||
nt|davidstern: I think getting there will depend on Levin's next bid|pg||
nt|davidstern: If he bids 4@C then South will certainly (says he) raise|pg||
nt|kit: if Levin bids 4@C, Weinstein will make a slam try I think|pg||
nt|davidstern: Any thoughts on North's bid here|pg||
nt|kit: If Levin passes, Weinstein might double again|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|davidstern: And then North would likely bid 5@C|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|davidstern: Ok so first hurdle crossed they will get to game|pg||
mb|p|nt|kit: Nice job of overcoming the interference.|pg||
nt|warrens:  a good hand to get a cup of coffee|pg||
pc|s2|nt|davidstern: Well done by L/W I am guessing South figured that North was under pressure to bid and the bidding by E/W made slam less likely|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: I would have bid 6 with that hand says Levin :)|pg||
pc|s6|nt|davidstern: Tehe|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
nt|pbundy: HEY mr bill|pg||
nt|warrens:  maybe they decided that 6@C is not a good contract for them this set:)|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2S96HAKDAKJ32CQJ85,SAKJ7HQT2DQT54CT2,ST4H9754D76CAK643,SQ8532HJ863D98C97|sv|n|nt|lml: east-west didnt give it the very best play and got tapped out in hearts|pg||
nt|ady: bidding to poor games can be costly|pg||
nt|skaftij:  This might get interesting|pg||
nt|wild card: South Africa is back on lead, in the closed room west went for 800 on board 9|pg||
nt|lechcold:  skoñczy³oby siê te¿ na 3BA, ale IMO Gawry poszed³ za ostro|pg||
nt|panosk: 430 i cant see how|pg||
nt|panosk: sorry 2 spade tricks|pg||
nt|desinka:  easy 3nt fow EW|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and Trendafilov did claim just when you told him to David|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: a VERY fast section so far|pg||
nt|bt: well yea, question is if he didnt do it then, why now, if partners pause woke him up|pg||
nt|skaftij:  4@h |pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm time runnning out for china already|pg||
nt|jbennet: west then on lead on the d ace and had a problem.|pg||
nt|kit: he didn't want to give away that he had club length -- was more worried about making contract.|pg||
nt|meargent: will levin overcall 1@S?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 5 boards..40 mins|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: zia is playing the Transnationals in team Smirnov, together with Sabine Auken|pg||
nt|ahollan1: running scores for SemiFinal and Transnational  http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm|pg||
nt|joest: very good result for USA1 in the other room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or  www.bridgewinners.com|pg||
mb|1N|an|12-14|nt|yuval10: NS has won 2nd place in the last European open pairs championship in Poznan, and right they're showing their quality|pg||
nt|boedhy:  think North had a double there|pg||
nt|boedhy:  but as a said Drijver was old when he was 20 :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 14-16|pg||
nt|skaftij:  and a save for 500|pg||
nt|anton72: best defence will be .... low club for A ...club for K and new one ...so declarer has entry for @s finesse|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if you're keeping an eye on Italy v China  BBO doesn't account completely for China  carryover  they really have 0.3 more than displayed|pg||
nt|brgpro: try AK10876x Dav,|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H=11-15 HCP, could be 5@H 5@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 12-14|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: so Canada takes a big 10 imp lead|pg||
nt|jbgood: so all square before the last 5|pg||
nt|desinka:  it was me :P :)|pg||
nt|ady: possible 6@C here|pg||
nt|desinka:  yes|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: ok // sorry Dessy|pg||
nt|ady: that was Dessy|pg||
nt|desinka:  np :) just kidding|pg||
nt|meargent: i know i would|pg||
nt|brgpro: or Ak108754|pg||
mb|2H|an|!S|nt|ahollan1: at these colors  1N=11-14|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Board 9 has costed USA 1 12 imps.|pg||
nt|antoniz: s¹ konsekwentni|pg||
nt|pawel90:  teraz taka moda, Å¼eby ostro graÄ|pg||
nt|leao:  no game to either side, lets see how they fare |pg||
nt|desinka:  it doesnt matter who did it|pg||
nt|desinka:  :)|pg||
nt|garden2005: w PO pad³o otwarcie 4@s|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: proszê Pañstwa - na ostatnie 4 rozdania wkroczy jako komentator Janusz Korwin Mikke   i nie jest to element kampanii wyborczej - Janusz zapraszamy|pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: Witam wszystkich. Moze wreszcie jakas taryfa bêdzie?|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: Janusz - polska dru¿yna praktycznie ¿egana siê z widzami, a z mistrzostwami za jeden jeszcze mecz - co s¹dzisz o wspólczesnym polskim bryd¿u?|pg||
nt|garden2005: witamy "Na pochy³e drzewo ka¿da koza skacze" :) najlepszego pisarza bryd¿owego|pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: Obserwowa³ewm kilka mmeczów - niestety, gramy przeciêtnie, to i wynik przeciêtny...|pg||
nt|garden2005: podatki p³ac¹|pg||
nt|davidstern: This is a good site http://www.automaton.gr/tt/en/OddsTbl.htm|pg||
nt|brgpro: for one loser|pg||
nt|rv: and Welland as well|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 5 person team  with   smirnov-piekarek|pg||
nt|rv: 4@c fit jump here, some play single jumps are fit jump and double jumps as splinters|pg||
nt|ahollan1: fit showing with only 3 trump ???|pg||
mb|d!|nt|wild card: or in the open room, sorry|pg||
nt|kamyk: w butlerze za tego szlema bed¹ mieli plusy|pg||
nt|lechcold: mo¿e nie mia³ mo¿liwoci pokazania rêki inwituj¹cej? 2@S po 2@D np. znaczy co innego|pg||
nt|odysseus69: good result for n's in open room|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: sorry|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C overcall much more effective over 1@D than it would have been in other room over  canape 1@S opening|pg||
nt|joest: wow.  this is a new one on me|pg||
nt|joest: 2@h both majors|pg||
mb|3S|nt|lechcold: bêd¹ chyba punkty|pg||
nt|xenya: again, a solid result for Israel from the OR|pg||
nt|boedhy:  I got a lot of comment yesterday when i was complementing Drijver Brink |pg||
nt|boedhy:  So I thought today i do something different|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: then I will complement them - have never seen them play "in real life" before - but so far they have played brilliantly|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes but you cant let these guys build up a big lead -they are great front runners|pg||
nt|gracelin: the 1S bid solved West's rebid problem.  The Chinese don't raise on 3|pg||
nt|brgpro: S has an interestig rebid after X from N now|pg||
nt|kit: if you don't overcall 1@S on Levin's hand, you will never overcall with a 4-card major.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nah   that explanation does NOT fit  Martel-Stansby agreement|pg||
nt|joest: looks more like a transfer|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yes  just normal transfer|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: yeah it shouldnt, i might have seen wrong what he wrote|pg||
mb|d|nt|ady: low heart lead|pg||
nt|jbgood: 3 NT the safest game|pg||
nt|jbgood: defense made it easy at the other table|pg||
nt|leao:  this shud make comfortably|pg||
nt|ady: minors behave for 6@C    but likely to finish in 3NT|pg||
nt|bt: i dont know if there was a break anyway|pg||
nt|brolucius: Break or not, it is illogical to realise that 7 is there when partner signs off but not before.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: no there was not|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Brink 2@H more constructive than 2@D["multi"]|pg||
nt|brgpro: X shows 3@s|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and 3@S = an ok minimum|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: surely East runs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C probably @C and another|pg||
nt|ady: 4@H making in OR  a good reult for Israel|pg||
nt|desinka:  lets see|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2@c gameforcing|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2@d I think is explained as "balanced hand"|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: now South in the tank|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: Janusz jaki wywa¿ony w s³owach ...no. no|pg||
nt|barnets: same bidding in open passed out|pg||
nt|imp_jan: f = 128|pg||
nt|brolucius: West sees no advantage in a splinter 4@H on such a weak hand. It would give North an extra option.|pg||
nt|nkgupt: upto 9 tricks for EW|pg||
nt|jbennet: but the key to get it right of course to duck the first d, getiing a siganl from p on the 2nd |pg||
nt|ahollan1: not on actual hand     in general  the 1-under overcall is move effective than 1-over because of preemption|pg||
nt|brgpro: can NS make 4@s here?|pg||
nt|joest: double seems takeoutish, keeping hearts infocus|pg||
nt|joest: over partner's 4@d I guess you shoot out 5@c and pray???|pg||
mb|4N|nt|lml: west didnt bother with stayman with a 4-3-3-3 hand|pg||
nt|lml: all quacky too|pg||
nt|desinka:  yes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: an old chess maneouvre, you repeat the position to gain thinking time|pg||
nt|bt: good to hear, then he was only teasing partner|pg||
nt|fabsayc: here i think 6@C was in that category|pg||
nt|hlortz: so while illogical i guess its legal if no UI|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Tough balancing|pg||
nt|pbundy: note that it is very common to pass over a big club when you have a good hand, as lall does|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: e/w now of the hook|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: true...west breathing easier|pg||
nt|lechcold: u Amerykanów pad³o 2@S i graj¹ 3N po ataku @HD|pg||
nt|ady: not surprised  not in game here|pg||
nt|skaftij:  North plays 3NT in OR, looks like going down|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: important board|pg||
nt|xenya: why should EW get to 3N i can't imagine -- but may be diplicated here|pg||
nt|barnets: north passed 4@S|pg||
nt|barnets: in open final contract|pg||
nt|kit: Levin's 4-card overcall struck gold -- or will it be mud after the hand is over?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=17-19|pg||
nt|meargent: 4@Hs a bit unluckey|pg||
nt|brgpro: but W might save over 4@s and that is.....800 perhaps|pg||
nt|tez: other table playing 4@c dbl from east|pg||
nt|rv: 4-0 @s break makes it complicated|pg||
nt|joest: btw it is quite possible lthat the double of 2@h after a weak NT showed cards not hearts|pg||
nt|ahollan1: over Weak NT  it is reasonable to say DBL of artificial response = cards|pg||
mb|5C|nt|wild card: would you bid 2@s or 2@h now?|pg||
nt|wild card: we can see 2@h is a much better contract|pg||
nt|kamyk: mozna go zrozumieæ: zacz¹³ od Staymana, bo jak znajdzie st. 4-ke, to OK; po 2@D nie mia³ jak sie dowiedzieæ o ficie pik, wiêc zaryzykowa³ Smolenia - nie widze tu wielkiej winy|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: mmm could be down on the lead|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: what would you lead|pg||
nt|xenya: not now perhaps|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: all bids are alerted of course|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the only 2-suiter NS can show is @H & @S|pg||
nt|brolucius: He had classic hand for a 4-card overcall: good values, good 4-card suit, and length in opener's suit.|pg||
nt|gracelin: north might bid 2NT to sow a good raise.  but he is stronger than that.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@CX in  other room|pg||
nt|joest: 4Nt choice of minors: great bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphznv: he looks more relaxed now|pg||
nt|rnmalik: 2@S looks appropriate however could bid 2@H, matter of judgment.|pg||
nt|lml: Martels 1NT is 15-17|pg||
nt|runnerup: 4 to Sw..next|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 2@c=nat or any 16+|pg||
nt|nkgupt: unless a @s lead|pg||
nt|ady: 5 imps to Netherlands last hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: can Sementa wait for DBL??|pg||
nt|davidstern: Very bad indeed|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow|pg||
nt|roswolf: THERE AER A LOT OF TOUGH DECISIONS BEING MADE HERE|pg||
nt|davidstern: 1-1-2-2 so down 4 minimum|pg||
nt|brgpro: they inverted the meaning of X and pass here i believe|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: 3@D promising 4-card major(s) but not 5|pg||
nt|ady: the 2@C rescue might also have been painful on good defence|pg||
nt|antoniz: trafi karo i brawa za agresjê|pg||
nt|ady: some play inverted minor raise not forcing to game|pg||
nt|skaftij:  this will make 9 or 10 tricks|pg||
nt|skaftij:  or 11|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: new leader after this|pg||
nt|skaftij:  he knows his side does not hold the balance of high cards|pg||
nt|ady: can make this now|pg||
nt|jbennet: north had no option but to pass. |pg||
mb|p|nt|famus: good for u Jan--coz all those must b which u wudn't want ur young son to hear!!!:)|pg||
nt|lechcold: 110 lub 140 |pg||
nt|leao:  after ew have fun with theyr @h its game over|pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: Kilka zagrañ by³o dla mnie niezrozumia³ych. mam na mysli rozgrywkê|pg||
nt|skaftij:  but the master suit, @s maybe|pg||
nt|szalay: i rather blame north|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry i reversed meaning of 2@D/2@H   2@H is weaker|pg||
nt|kit: The double of 4@S is rather amazing to me -- might have been influenced by previous boards.|pg||
nt|roswolf: the italiams dont lose many matches 40+ imps up|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right Jack|pg||
nt|roswolf: tarzan too macho here|pg||
nt|brgpro: X=pass( i want to bid on) and pass would ask for a X from pd|pg||
nt|joest: well done by north-south|pg||
nt|ahollan1: over Strong NT  tend to be lead-direct or natural wanting to compete|pg||
pc|s3|nt|athene: lauria-versace often have quite intense "discussions" when they get a less than perfect board :)|pg||
nt|skaftij:  9 quick tricks|pg||
nt|antoniz: 140|pg||
nt|lechcold: z tak cienkimi numerkami pikowymi nie ka¿dy zdecydowa³by siê na skok w tych za³ozeniach|pg||
nt|desinka:  in this vulnerables 1@C is 15+ hcp|pg||
nt|desinka:  so 2@C is GF|pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: Brusztunowa chyba?|pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: Z êki N te 5@C... |pg||
nt|antoniz: dobra decyzja,tylko-1|pg||
nt|szalay: why didnt he raise?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ahhhh    spy tells me Monaco in trouble and Angelini in 12th   that makes much more sense|pg||
pc|s6|nt|vugraphznv: they like to play with 6 trumps i think|pg||
nt|ady: need to play a spade now|pg||
nt|lml: 2@C was likely setting up an invitational auction since Stansby could just have bid hearts if he wanted to play th|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: East: sorry if I did something stupid|pg||
nt|panosk: gd game bad breaks|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: not that :)|pg||
nt|garden2005: zrobilimy Janusz panel wyborczy na forum bryd¿owym, g³osowa³o 99 bryd¿ystów - zdoby³es 27 g³osów :) rzadko masz kontakt z nami i dlatego ci pisze o tym wyniku|pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: No, to nie zanosi sie na zwyciêstwo taryf¹...|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: ale jak zdobêdziemy w ostatniej rundzie 45VP to jeszcze mamy szanse:)|pg||
nt|gracelin: need exact defense to beat 4H, spade lead and D shift.  D lead also works, of course.|pg||
nt|pbundy: i think that n/s make some clubs here - but no bidding |pg||
nt|ahollan1: interesting rebid choice from Nystrom|pg||
nt|brgpro: now @cQ for sure|pg||
nt|ady: will have to be carefull now after Q@C|pg||
nt|kit: Bathurst naturally thinks his partner has a stiff spade, so he bids the game even though he knows the diamonds lie bad.|pg||
pc|sK|nt|udo: this lead helps|pg||
nt|ahollan1: actually  that 1N was 9-12|pg||
nt|star6ija: they reached the worst possible contract...even 3N has greater chances|pg||
nt|lml: there|pg||
nt|lml: Jan tells me that 1NT can be a bit weaker after a negative doubel 14-16|pg||
nt|panosk: will make though |pg||
nt|ady: east doing well|pg||
nt|oosmanb: this wont take long either|pg||
nt|ady: if playing north for doubleton honor in clubs|pg||
nt|meargent: hard to see east not bidding 4 and harder to see them making it|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|lechcold: Fredin na drugim stole tego nie zrobi³|pg||
nt|lechcold: bez agresji by doszli po inwicie:)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: Antoni - czy tu miejsce na rozwa¿ania co by by³o gdyby by³o? Nie wystarcz¹ ³amy B?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: West you didn't. maybe something good|pg||
nt|boedhy:  ai|pg||
nt|brolucius: The Great Dealer thinks we have just ben treated to a grand slam, so we should (as a penance) watch some - usually very slow - 1NT contract. |pg||
nt|skaftij:  With 2@h contrsuctive, North should raise|pg||
nt|ahollan1: balancing 2@H  when 2@D would be more constructive|pg||
nt|brgpro: Lauris thinks he has a chance if @sK if on|pg||
pc|sA|nt|wild card: well, you already have told you're low on points, and you'll never make your hearts in a spade contract|pg||
nt|boedhy:  played too quickly there|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: sr FOLKS -- should never have complemented them -- always ends this way when I do -- SORRY |pg||
nt|kiwibridge: lucky for NL 5C was allowed to make OR|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i got it wrong 1st time  --  actually  2@D stronger than 2@H|pg||
nt|skaftij:  true|pg||
nt|kit: Levin working on the clubs, so will have some tricks if opponents draw trumps.|pg||
nt|tomi2: 4@H is ind overruling partner here. he has a good hand after 3@C but now they doubled 3@D and partner did not make another try with pass I think he should accept partners decision|pg||
nt|kit: The double of 3@D will save declarer from going down 2.  Without that, he would surely take the diamond finesse on a diamond shift.|pg||
nt|tomi2: his partner can count his spades on his own|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ady: some play re-double in east seat compels 2@C  which east would pass with what he had  or if a higher suit would then bid his suit |pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW have 3 ranges for 1N   at fav  1/2=9-12  3/4=11-14  otherwise 15-17|pg||
nt|odysseus69: interesting bidding in OR- having bid 2H over the double South revalued and bid 4H after 3D|pg||
nt|jbgood: fine contract for a push - he will not risk the club finesse - and three club tricks the reward|pg||
nt|ady: this could bring in some imps for Bulgaria|pg||
nt|brgpro: Lauria|pg||
nt|nkgupt: N did open a nat 1@d? :)|pg||
nt|ady: south should be able to signal which switch|pg||
nt|jbennet: if 4h was making then any contract of their own likely to be expensive.|pg||
nt|brgpro: but Duboin is more than happy to pass the X...looking at his @c holding|pg||
pc|s8|nt|desinka:  still early to say that :)|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: Teraqz @D W|pg||
nt|garden2005: nie wró¿ Janusz dramatów :)|pg||
nt|antoniz: jednak bedzie -2,ma³y zysk|pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: Jak ruszy³ @C@C to moze byc bez dwóch...|pg||
nt|brolucius: It can scarcely be an out-and-out penalty double since most of his hand (the heart honors) could be ruffed away.|pg||
nt|ady: sorry  down 1|pg||
nt|ady: likely down 2|pg||
nt|ady: but still a good board for China|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes a steal|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|pbundy: nystrom knows they need some swings|pg||
nt|ady: north I mean|pg||
nt|ady: not too difficult |pg||
nt|kit: true, but East knows no spade wastage.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i have  live voice from onsite vugraph room in background|pg||
pc|h2|nt|bt: race for 8th spot is now: T5 US1/Iceland 307.5 7. NZ 302 8. Australia 301 9. Sweden 298 10 China 297.5 11. Japan 295|pg||
nt|pbundy: he is aware they have some unfortunate results|pg||
nt|kit: Zagorin decided more likely that South doubled without king of diamonds than that diamonds 7-1 and club hook on.|pg||
pc|h5|nt|udo: still,,,9 tricks ,,hmm,,,,may need some endplay|pg||
nt|athene: will he try finessing the @S9 for a dummy entry?|pg||
nt|ady: needs to get club right|pg||
nt|ady: bad situation in either minor might have meant slam going down|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that treatment sure worked well here|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
nt|brgpro: he can finesse @d...so 5 side winners then ruff a @h in hand...makes 6...can he find 4 more ?|pg||
pc|h3|nt|udo: i see only 7 tricks actually|pg||
nt|famus: that 1 imp is becoming more illusive with each passing board--sounds like poetry!!:)|pg||
nt|tomi2: I could understand a direct 4@H after 3@C of course but when he bid 3@D he gained ne and usefull information about this deal|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the Pass/DBL Inversion might be yet-another Eric Rodwell creation|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|ady: it appears west is trying to sign off but east is persisting|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm referring to 1N   not the 2@H accept of transfer|pg||
nt|nkgupt: dont think wud make even on @h continuation|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Netherlands has taken small lead over Italy|pg||
pc|c5|nt|kit: North doesn't know 4-card overcall, so he may think it necessary to tap dummy again.|pg||
nt|pbundy: so was i :)|pg||
nt|brgpro: -800 is not that terrible...they are cold for 620 and they might be pushed to 5 level...who knows|pg||
pc|c2|nt|athene: @SK there was safe, wasn't it? i guess not if east had @SQ109xx, but is that really possible?|pg||
nt|jbennet: as it happened also trump continuation had been enough.|pg||
nt|ady: take the 2 diamonds    then can sit back|pg||
nt|ady: no   4th spade would be a problem|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ady: tht this was glong to be played in clubs    but this will also come home|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: down now - right|pg||
nt|kit: But North got it right -- holding declarer to 3 ruffs in dummy.|pg||
nt|barnets: same def so far in open|pg||
nt|barnets: exactly|pg||
nt|kit: Oh, Soouth overtook to play a spade.  Good play.  South knew the story.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this time he's getting protection from his teammates|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|ehsana: hello all :)|pg||
nt|ady: spade ruff   will beat this |pg||
nt|desinka:  lucky - 6@C/6@D are almost the same in this positions of the cards|pg||
nt|ady: not down in clubs    6NT would have made as well|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I would like 6@c a lot more|pg||
nt|desinka:  for sure|pg||
nt|bt: i think we have sweden-nz in the last round also|pg||
nt|brolucius: I usually find that it is a close decision between looking out of the window and watching a 1NT contract (but some say that this is an eccentric view).|pg||
nt|rv: I suspect single dummy 4@s may go down unless it is doubled|pg||
nt|brgpro: i would think the chance is not that slim...|pg||
pc|c3|nt|ady: not guaranteed    west only bid once  and did not rebid diamonds|pg||
pc|c9|nt|lml: so probably 4|pg||
nt|lml: and likely a push or an imp in it|pg||
nt|odysseus69: wests 3D bid has received criticism from spectators- rightly so- his hand is poor defensively so shouldnt give oppo 2nd chance|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|vugraphznv: a spade to the @s J|pg||
nt|athene: lauria decides to give up on the heart finesse since it might be wrong anyway and even if right, very hard to get to take it twice|pg||
nt|famus: Hi EA--can u tell us who was their coach--i forget the name??|pg||
nt|athene: even if the @S10 is onside|pg||
nt|ehsana: Kokish's  reps in Karachi|pg||
nt|famus: ah ok--ther are people looking here for those reps:))haha--joking|pg||
nt|athene: if the hearts are breaking, then it is advantageous to cash them|pg||
nt|star6ija: how he will go probably wrong|pg||
nt|ady: can make   ruff high and draw   and play on either red suit  |pg||
nt|star6ija: I think chances are greater for ruffing with the 8 here|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: fingers on the ten...not on the table|pg||
nt|ady: have to guess|pg||
nt|lml: Martel is getting his long suit going right away|pg||
nt|panosk: if spade finess doesnt work ruff another heart in dummy|pg||
nt|desinka:  sorry|pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: Przeka¿cie Witoldowi pozdrowienia. I dajcie moj adres. Rysio ma!|pg||
nt|brgpro: so u invest 5 imps and possible gain of 12, which may happen|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
mc|11|nt|athene: to take some exit cards away from the defence and make them discard|pg||
pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3S7542HQ94DAJ6CAJ8,SKQ63H852DQ7CKT52,STHAT73DKT84CQ964,SAJ98HKJ6D9532C73|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|kit: E-W needed to find their 4-4 spade fit to have a good shot at a plus score.  That 4-4 fit takes only 4 spade tricks in notrump, but more spade tricks with spades trumps.|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|c4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s7|nt|kit: Declarer will have 3 annoying discards to make on the spades|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h3|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg||
nt|kit: Declarer will test the clubs, get the count, and lose to doubleton queen of diamonds -- down 2.|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
nt|gavin:  I'm not so sure about that, |pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|d4|nt|gavin:  east is a passed hand|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|gavin:  and has shown up with 9 points, these guys open 11|pg||
nt|kit: good point.  Will Weinstein work that out?|pg||
nt|gavin:  plus the queen of diamonds would give him a very good takeout double as well|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: Do you open 11s asks Weinstein|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: A lot of them was the answar from Grue|pg||
nt|gavin:  people asking why cash clubs and risk going two down|pg||
nt|gavin:  making the contract is so important|pg||
nt|gavin:  and finding out diamonds are 4-2 in one direction|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|nt|gavin:  means that the queen is 66% to be in that spot|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|gavin:  at the other table they will have a lot tougher of a time|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3S7542HQ94DAJ6CAJ8,SKQ63H852DQ7CKT52,STHAT73DKT84CQ964,SAJ98HKJ6D9532C73|sv|b|nt|vugraphznv: hi Henri / and wlc|pg||
nt|ady: needed really to discard heartsnd keep 4 diamonds to succeed|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: slam time for EW?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: exactly what he said when the first trick was over :)|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Let there be light|pg||
nt|skaftij:  and not dull borads|pg||
nt|skaftij:  boards|pg||
nt|antoniz: a 170 nie przysz³o nam do g³owy)|pg||
nt|lml: south hope he could make it 3 hearts and 2 diamonds|pg||
nt|vugraphznv:  running scores: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: ahhh -- ty Cornelia :)|pg||
nt|ady: seniors link requested as well|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: after laying down the dummy Sementa left the room|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and now we wait for him to get back|pg||
nt|andersk: tx Jan|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he couldnt know it was another fast fast board :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 12 boards played in just over 1 hour|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Running scores Bermuda Bowl http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Running scores Venice Cup http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live/scorebord-venice-cup|pg||
nt|oosmanb: what do you open with East hand?|pg||
nt|oosmanb: 3NT gambling? 4@C, 5@C..|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and at last - but for us Danes not least :)  Running scores Seniors Bowl http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live/scorebord-d-orsi-senior-bowl|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he claimed ...he said I will take the club finesse|pg||
nt|bt: some interesting cards here, ns better stay at the 4 level|pg||
nt|bt: or get to nt|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 4 to go|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, that was clear way to play it, since South's 2@H normally shows only three hearts, leaving North with two big ones in the end position.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: LEVIN IS A SUPER PLAYER|pg||
nt|ady: 12 back   well timed bid|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: They all go to the bathroom now, empty room here...|pg||
nt|gracelin: The Italians truly need a break.  They should d that earlier.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: They are back:)|pg||
nt|jillan:  sleepy of him :)|pg||
nt|pbundy: right|pg||
nt|ady: 6 to Netherlands|pg||
nt|jbennet: good bidding in the other room.|pg||
nt|meargent: east probably thought he was too good for 3@Ds|pg||
nt|kit: I'm sure East was always bidding game -- he bid 3@D in case his partner had bigger things in mind.|pg||
nt|brgpro: defence must have slipped a trick somewhere|pg||
nt|roswolf: only -3 really karen?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other table has finished this 3rd [of 6] sets|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 48 boards tomorrow to complete the SemiFinals|pg||
nt|brgpro: so S ruffed a loser with his winning trump|pg||
nt|brgpro: that is why|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Yes, the Italians are argueing about that slip in the defense|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2+@C forcing 1 round|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: 3nt is a possible call with that south hand|pg||
nt|famus: Hi Henri--congrtas for France reaching the Rugby Finals|pg||
nt|ehsana: $S on fro N/S|pg||
nt|ehsana: 4S|pg||
nt|ritong: so far so good|pg||
nt|skaftij:  rathe heavy 3@s|pg||
nt|lml: but of course he couldnt|pg||
nt|xenya: that's right|pg||
nt|sybarra: guess we are the speed table today |pg||
nt|leao:  board 24 coming up at the other table|pg||
nt|ady: may be over 20 imps swing on last hand being in diamonds rather than clubs or no-trumps|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Yes jan shut up :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I will from now on|pg||
nt|davidstern: 4Comparisons but the OR playinglast board|pg||
nt|runnerup: ew in forest here in other room|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: New Zealand not in a qualifying spot any more|pg||
nt|ahollan1: DBL focusing on Majors   partner avoids @D unless real length|pg||
nt|roswolf: all pass|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 2@D=18-19 balanced, no 5cM|pg||
nt|jbennet: perhaps fatigue are creeping in.|pg||
nt|brgpro: in Chinese? so the Dutch guys wont understand|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm ok great score for team orange|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: No, in Italian, so I can understand:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: is this a 2N bid or too weak for that?|pg||
nt|roswolf: lol|pg||
mb|1C|nt|brolucius: Sometimes very difficult to decide between NT and a 5-3 major fit. I usually solve the problem by always playing in the major. |pg||
nt|mdgraham: can EW hammer this?|pg||
nt|dburn:  probably not - no one can ever double anything these days|pg||
nt|ady: heart slam on A@C|pg||
nt|rv: 9th round in progress there, 3 more today and 3 more tomorrow before top 8 are identified for QFs|pg||
mb|p|nt|lechcold: 1@C Wujotowy|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 3@c=6-9hcp 4@ss|pg||
nt|leao:  minus 11 for brasil, as predicted|pg||
nt|boedhy:  serious I think Brink made a mistake there...|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 5@C was cold of course sorry|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2@c= 5@ds + 4@ss  OR  6@hs|pg||
nt|skaftij:  easy 4@s|pg||
nt|davidstern: 6    CHINA 334.5 7    ICELAND 333.5 8    SWEDEN 331 9    NEW ZEALAND 329 10    JAPAN 328 |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they are 9th at the moment|pg||
nt|xenya: but still in contention?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: of course|pg||
nt|xenya: yes i'm told|pg||
nt|runnerup: if Nyström still bids they better find 4-4- fit |pg||
nt|davidstern: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|mdgraham: West has two tricks...can partner deliver three?|pg||
nt|dburn:  although that's a start|pg||
nt|kit: This will be a routine 4@H, making when ace of spades onside.|pg||
mb|1H|nt|bt: i follow kantar-eisenberg on that|pg||
nt|bt: with overstrength always play 3nt|pg||
nt|ahollan1:  in Venice Cup    Netherlands LEADS USA1 by 1|pg||
nt|pbundy: very exciting, al!|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they were trailing by 40 2 sets ago|pg||
nt|jbennet: this convention 1H being also nebulous.|pg||
nt|kit: Well, somebody had to bid clubs :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: NS play multi - maybe he thinks that hand is too strong for weak-two but too weak for 1@S|pg||
nt|wild card: board 10, EW in the open room also bid 4@h, got a diamond lead, declarer misguessed trumps but still got home after a wrong defence|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: West asks about the time|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 20/25 min offcial|pg||
nt|leao:  4@s looks cold for NS as cards lay|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=883|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: That one I know --- and please watch how Denmark is doing :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: running scores for seniors: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=883|pg||
nt|xenya: 12 imps to Sweden on 8 (5@S -4 here), when Fredin-Fallenius got nowhere a club slam but got away with it |pg||
nt|oosmanb: which Ace do you lead against 5@C !!|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, also 6NT instead of 6 of a suit (which may break badly)|pg||
nt|davidstern: Press F5 ifyou get an error|pg||
nt|davidstern: Venice Cup http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=882|pg||
nt|runnerup: anh north took that @h suit -so |pg||
nt|davidstern: Senhttp://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=883|pg||
nt|davidstern: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=883|pg||
nt|dburn:  you see what I mean?|pg||
nt|mdgraham: :(|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think rebid will be    2@C=4@H  unbalanced|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think deWijs was the one who psyched  4@S bid  holding something like  x QJxxxx Qxxxx x when partner opened 3@D|pg||
nt|brgpro: 4@h for EW but S bids it first...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S=unbalanced|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: bocchi alerted 1@s, probably because it shows an unbalanced hand|pg||
nt|brgpro: 5@h even..|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on 28  800|pg||
nt|joest: in the other room south just rebid 1NT here ignoring his spade suit|pg||
nt|joest: which I like|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: spades best for n/s   difficult to find now|pg||
nt|boedhy:  looking at it more deeply he had to choose if partner had the @c or @s ace|pg||
nt|skaftij:  the 4-1 break make 4@s difficult|pg||
nt|ahollan1: most play support DBL only thru 2@H|pg||
nt|szalay: but over 2M it shows extras|pg||
nt|pbundy: dennis - that is why i am quite often loathe to write off ANYONE in these competitions|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry missed it   2N= 4@H 6@D|pg||
nt|pbundy: matches can swing by a lot without tons of boards to go|pg||
nt|jbennet: might work when you sit and home and bid hands as pracitse with no opponents|pg||
nt|jbennet: east probed for game  with 2 sp and then respected his p decision. |pg||
nt|brgpro: will stop in 4 i bet|pg||
nt|roswolf: thiws might well be bid|pg||
nt|jbennet: west might well try a splinter bid.|pg||
nt|ady: 2NT good hearts|pg||
nt|jbennet: or show his 2nd suit , |pg||
nt|brgpro: 4@d is at pd's throat...hard to judg, i think 3@c is perhaps his choice|pg||
nt|bobholl: it is a 50% slam so :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: maybe 4@D if that splinter is allowed in the system|pg||
nt|jbennet: to show 2nd suit not a bad idea at all, he might get a good flop. 3235 or 4234 with suitable cards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Jack and I remember when auction would go   P-P-P-P|pg||
nt|joest: indeed|pg||
nt|joest: 1@h will scramble a few more tricks than 1NT did|pg||
mb|p|nt|rnmalik: Part of the game:)|pg||
nt|lml: on the lie of the cards e-w can do pretty well in a minor|pg||
nt|xenya: much depends on how NS treat this sequence...|pg||
nt|lml: but no way to know that|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: Jorgs bidding doesnt match their CC|pg||
nt|skaftij:  2NT = FG raise|pg||
nt|brgpro: think he will introduce his 2nd suit|pg||
nt|bobholl: guess that tarzan will get to 4@H|pg||
nt|jbennet: yes totally agree, 4d leaves no room for p.|pg||
nt|joest: then again east-west can make some spades.  Understandably, Stansby just sold out|pg||
pc|c7|nt|athene: or maybe he just thinks his spades are not good enough for a weak-two|pg||
nt|athene: i bet bocchi is not so demure|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: seems a cross ruff game here|pg||
nt|lml: the problem is that the defence is overrruffing|pg||
nt|lml: he has five top tricks so he needs to make 3 little diamonds|pg||
nt|lml: he can make a ruff of a small club|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: hard to do so with this layout|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on  11  Stefanov in 4@H on the Moysian|pg||
nt|star6ija: actually declarer after correct guess in @ss has to keep all his @ds in dummy|pg||
nt|xenya: and it appears 3@S was just a signoff|pg||
nt|bt: so if u have like 26 hcp and 53, get to the major, u need the extra ruff|pg||
nt|ady: 3@S?|pg||
nt|brgpro: rather than a crowded 4@d|pg||
nt|brgpro: 3@s=@c|pg||
pc|c8|nt|vugraphznv: I wrote what Jorgensen wrote to N|pg||
nt|skaftij:  4@d void probably|pg||
nt|bt: with 28 or more get to nt|pg||
nt|brolucius: Also, there is no threat of an adverse ruff in NT, of course.|pg||
nt|bt: at least thats my interpretation of how they played, must ask them|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 1@S according to cc is GI-relay [15]|pg||
nt|barnets: USA building a strong lead - now by 38|pg||
nt|brolucius: As often happens, we are assigned a penance of 1NT after an exciting board.|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes regaining your composure is necessary once you have been through the wringer|pg||
nt|brgpro: 2@c=puppet to 2@d...XYZ|pg||
pc|cK|nt|pawel90:  5@D byÅo tanie|pg||
nt|sybarra: has a bit to handle however |pg||
nt|leao:  6 even, without  @d lead |pg||
nt|kiwibridge: of course and that is what he has :)|pg||
nt|boedhy:  will not make this...|pg||
nt|boedhy:  have to go have fun all|pg||
nt|skaftij:  running scores |pg||
nt|skaftij:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|runnerup: now @d lead needed|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Jonsson asked if he has to much|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Baldursson answer is: yes|pg||
nt|barnets: north in closed room made an imiganative bid of 4@C over 1N rebid|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is easy for text-books to tell us not to allow a bad board to affect our subsequent play. This advice is all too difficult to follow, as we have seen here.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they are laughing about the lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: more from Venice Cup  USA2 trailing Indonesia by 21|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that match is on BBO |pg||
nt|jbennet: in real life with agressive opponents however: The subsequent bidding may be ruined. |pg||
nt|kit: It is often right to table a singleton ace of trumps, but here I think the diamond lead is reasonable -- might get a ruff in partner's hand.|pg||
nt|roswolf: well the orangemen have avoided 3nt|pg||
nt|ahollan1: curiously  this is the time when 3N rolls|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe not |pg||
nt|brgpro: well, i am wrong or Bocchi forgot?|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|wild card: south apparently wants to know whether to play 3NT or 4@s, and that's an easy decision for north|pg||
nt|lml: a spade lead will not be helpful to the defense|pg||
nt|oosmanb: @c ruffs would give alot of defensive tricks.. 2 ruffs A@H A@S 2@D|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no i dont know what that means :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am told by a kibitzer that a recent analysis showed (in world championship play) that 3NT played better than four of a major when the hands are balanced. He says that Glyn ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: Liggins (of England) was the author. |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they have 25 minutes left|pg||
nt|brolucius: I have not read it, but it would be interesting to see.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: on this hand south has no reason to play 4@H for sure|pg||
nt|kit: jack of spades lead a thoughtful shot -- but not for this hand. |pg||
nt|roswolf: favorite to go -1 which will still gain imps|pg||
nt|brgpro: declarer needs to get @d right and @s finesse to make this|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @DKTx is too tough with no transportation for 3N|pg||
nt|roswolf: might well get the trumps right on the auction|pg||
nt|brgpro: but it is not impossible though...the 3@h jump might be the clue...if he has a sing...what could that be...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: win   @SQ [duck]   @DQ seems very reasonable|pg||
nt|rv: Lauria's 4@c was not warranted in OR in last deal|pg||
pc|cT|nt|panosk: tough contract lets see how he deals with it|pg||
nt|panosk: prefer semi forcing 2@D with W hand|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: bye Ruud and thanks from all of us'|pg||
nt|jillan:  interesting results so far in the Venice Cup BOT American teams are down. USA 2 against Indonesia 198/219. USA 1 against Netherlands 171/172|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Indonesia just picked up more  leading by 34|pg||
nt|jbennet: this time south decidednot to overcall 1 sp (clearcut).|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the round robin  1) USA2  2) USA1   so these are big upsets|pg||
nt|jbennet: giving EW room to scientifically find out that 6h was there for taking. |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: players not explaining, so i can't tell you what 3@d or 3@h means|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on 25  [5@SE-1]   Wooldridge in 4@S|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: probably bertheau is relaying|pg||
nt|roswolf: never close to the slam|pg||
nt|bobholl: pity that the position of @C A decides and not judgement / technic|pg||
pc|c4|nt|rnmalik: Natural 4@S but appears difficult to make on J@D lead.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 3C for 5 card major|pg||
nt|leao:  yes, he has a bit of work to do|pg||
nt|sybarra: only 6 with j10 of spades dropping|pg||
nt|leao:  rite|pg||
nt|leao:  @d and @d?|pg||
nt|bt: i also never look for a major w 4333, its just so i dont waste my energy deciding or give up information |pg||
nt|runnerup: @s lead |pg||
nt|ahollan1: we're only 5 boards ahead of the other table    almost always happen for Grue-Lall|pg||
nt|brgpro: 3@c by W would have been @d|pg||
nt|brgpro: so 3@s=@c|pg||
nt|brgpro: i was told|pg||
nt|ahollan1: must guess if @SQ covered|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or Bocchi thinks his hand too good to hear  2@D-P|pg||
nt|brgpro: 3NT pass pass W would X that, asking for a @h|pg||
nt|brgpro: so NS have plenty of time to run to 4@D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Drijver in 3@D|pg||
nt|rv: looks like Bocchi has forgotten sys here|pg||
nt|rv: as Jack remarked|pg||
nt|rv: 2@c is puppet to play in 2@d or Inv hands, 2@d would be GF if playing 2 way checkback here|pg||
pc|c3|nt|ady: think this will end in game|pg||
nt|ady: not slam|pg||
nt|mdgraham: EW have a Note 3 defining continuations after 2@D, but there's not much I can see about what they do after interference  |pg||
nt|dburn:  still, this isn't down yet|pg||
nt|dburn:  if if South gives North a ruff it will be, but otherwise there are chances|pg||
nt|ahollan1: typically  relays get  exact distribution then total controls [A=2 K=1]  or for this pair  zz points  A=3 K=2 Q=1|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: nystrom writes 3@s = 'i think 1462' |pg||
nt|rv: some play 2 way checkback only on 1x-1y-1n, a few others play it on 1x-1y-1z as well|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|wild card: 3@h conventional, I've seen Americans do that before|pg||
nt|wild card: with both @dA and @cK offside, he will go down|pg||
nt|wild card: and 3NT might be made|pg||
nt|brolucius: It seems to imply that responder should bid Stayman (rather than make a transfer bid) when he is 5-3-3-2 with a 5-card major and sound game values. |pg||
nt|barnets: south is still thinking what that means|pg||
nt|brgpro: w has to x|pg||
nt|ahollan1: XYZ is same as 2-way checkback but expanded to cover  3rd bid being 1@H or 1@S|pg||
nt|joest: @c10 as a suit preference|pg||
nt|joest: I was wondering if Martels' lead might have been from Q98x making the position somewhat more obscure|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ady: could go wrong   |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: score board 28 corrected...|pg||
nt|odysseus69: has to rise with spade ace after d finesse loses|pg||
nt|ady: then play for K@C with north|pg||
nt|ady: if he plays clubs now and north wins and plays a 2nd spade  will again have to play the ace|pg||
nt|odysseus69: much debate - should he play clubs or diamonds|pg||
nt|ady: diamond finesse now looks normal|pg||
nt|ady: club can wait|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Zack shaking his head.. perhaps thinking about board 25?|pg||
nt|ady: good duck of spade from south|pg||
nt|leao:  nope|pg||
nt|ady: looks good for 10 tricks|pg||
nt|chick:  and the Venice Cup for those interested:   http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=882|pg||
nt|andersk: well I do not lead @H A|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|lechcold: ten Grue jest bardzo grony|pg||
nt|sybarra: but not a slam "we" want to be in |pg||
nt|andersk: 4 sp makes|pg||
pc|sT|nt|vugraphznv: it did|pg||
nt|jbgood: so one imp for Sweden most likely|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he did not play|pg||
nt|ahollan1:  11  [3@C S -1]  Muller in 4@S east|pg||
nt|barnets: by a pssed hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Lall DBL  must made Bertheau's hand HUGE|pg||
nt|jbennet: south probably judged that they were ahead enough in this match. |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: bertheau was telling the same|pg||
nt|jbennet: so the otherwise normal overcall of 1 sp  was not necessary. |pg||
nt|ahollan1: from what i've seen on vugraph   DBLs during relay sequences are huge LOSER|pg||
nt|ahollan1: DBL  not only gives relayers info about opp hands   but  worse  gives them extra space|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: USA picked up 12 imps on 25, as did the dutch women in their match against usa2|pg||
nt|rv: Italians are self destructing here, this match is far from over|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: bocchi looking at the bidding in amazement|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i hope Dennis can understand the italian postmortem|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i wonder what he will say when dummy comes down|pg||
nt|rv: Lauria on brd 28 in CR and Bocchi here on brd 29|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|lml: he is trying for the crossruff but it wont work for him|pg||
nt|leao:  lol... agree|pg||
nt|brolucius: Few people do that, though.|pg||
nt|hlortz: south has both xtra high cards and no aces - that points me to 3n also|pg||
nt|bt: so 3nt was slam invitaional presumably|pg||
nt|mdgraham: although if partner has defined a balanced 18-19, double can be used as penalty - but maybe that's hopelessly old-fashioned|pg||
nt|dburn:  although if North forces dummy with a diamond, there will be too much for declarer to do|pg||
nt|dburn:  not that diamond, mind you - but West may not believe that she can run it|pg||
nt|mdgraham: why @DK? North won't lead from @DAQ - and the ace might be singleton  |pg||
nt|ahollan1: board 32 is final board of the match -- actually it is board 96|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: against usa1, that was|pg||
nt|brgpro: let's who gorgot...|pg||
nt|rv: they have let Dutch back into this match|pg||
nt|brgpro: forgot|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: saying nothing, just looking at it|pg||
nt|brgpro: only 500 though|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ady: west might have pushed with 5@C   and taken a view if east cu 5@D|pg||
nt|wild card: he can discard 3 clubs now|pg||
nt|wild card: but after @d10, I doubt he will depend on the heart finesse|pg||
nt|lechcold: przepraszam, priv:) ale Joe Grue, naprawdê jest grony|pg||
nt|kit: Not that anything else is particularly better.|pg||
nt|roswolf: an overtrick is on here|pg||
nt|brgpro: side suit|pg||
nt|jbennet: so west did indeed show 2nd suit. Surprsingly east bid only bid 4h. |pg||
nt|brgpro: but 12 away|pg||
nt|rv: still 12 IMPs away?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: bocchi telling muller 2@c was GF, 2@d natural sign off|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: now they are discussing|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|jbgood: but not when W didnt cach the club ...|pg||
nt|bt: hurd has no clear lead here, i would try that too|pg||
nt|bt: i dont think this auction makes ducking @DA a difficult play|pg||
nt|nkgupt: 3@s-4@d(if cue) W might have givenn one more try|pg||
pc|h6|nt|leao:  goig for the forcing defense|pg||
nt|sybarra: may end up making only 5 |pg||
nt|leao:  well, he's in 4, so no problem|pg||
nt|boedhy:  hi all back|pg||
nt|sybarra: re hi Ruud |pg||
nt|boedhy:  not much imps going on i see|pg||
nt|boedhy:  board 24 only|pg||
nt|sybarra: bd 24  |pg||
nt|leao:  ruff, @d to dummy and @d back.... if W ruffs, he'll be ruffing pards trick|pg||
nt|boedhy:  yes that was a extreme result|pg||
nt|leao:  yes, Miguel felt the urge to show pard he had @h as well, instead of leading pards suit|pg||
nt|sybarra: are we losing connection or is Bas thinking?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: bas is thinking|pg||
nt|leao:  looks like hes thinking|pg||
nt|olegario: sure now trying for an extra trick which may not happen|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe not after 4-1 trump split|pg||
nt|mdgraham: although Norht might have pre-empted with seven diamonds|pg||
nt|dburn:  now, declarer will do well to get out for down one|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|ady: premature Q@C|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 3NT much easier - if I had 5 card Stayman would I use it? dont tink so|pg||
nt|fabsayc: you mean so you dont have to lead?|pg||
nt|runnerup: i just cant see that north has any rigth to bid to 3 @c -but he did (i think south agrees)|pg||
nt|xenya: can make by setting up hearts|pg||
nt|skaftij:  ith 3-2 spades 4 spades also off after 3 rounds of diamonds|pg||
nt|barnets: 5@C is final contract|pg||
nt|brolucius: There are four more sessions of 16 boards, so there is no need to push hard after a couple of bad boards.|pg||
nt|brgpro: well, even with the best defence, since N has @sKx, ( 10 is on too), he can make this if he guesses @d|pg||
pc|s9|nt|ryskiel_: jakby dali graæ|pg||
nt|panosk: hoping for spades 3-3|pg||
nt|andersk: now even easier|pg||
nt|brolucius: Why is ducking something that West should consider?|pg||
nt|ady: Italy disappointed A@C right|pg||
nt|kit: Note good technique of winning king of diamonds.  If Levin wins ace both opponents will know there is no diamond trick coming, since if Levin had Ax he would have gone up queen.|pg||
pc|s4|nt|wild card: probably he will have to|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: the scorebaords again http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: as we near the end of this round|pg||
nt|bobholl: de wijs muller still bidding :)|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: as if @C ever get any respect  now they're premature|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: madala going through the notes now|pg||
nt|brgpro: i do think after 1@d-1@h-1@s, 2@c XYZ has its advantages, |pg||
nt|ahollan1: can you grab a copy for me??|pg||
nt|rv: even best in business forget system in second round of bidding on fairly basic sequence|pg||
nt|rv: rest of us still hope to continue playing game competitively:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: one of earmarks of Italian Blue Team was their ability to have a disaster and say NOTHING|pg||
nt|rv: Bocchi assumed 2@c (4th suit) was GF, Madala thought 2@c was puppet to 2@d to play or variety of Inv hands|pg||
nt|rv: they will sort it out soon at the cost of 12 IMPs|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|lml: the good news is that the long hand is overrufing the spades|pg||
nt|lml: so he will probably come to the diamond 9 eventually for 7 tricks|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: west claims|pg||
nt|joest: Hurd might just cash ace king of diamonds and play on crossruff lines|pg||
nt|ahollan1: always difficult to imagine a crossruff when one hand is 4333|pg||
pc|d4|nt|lechcold: gramy z USA2 o 16:45 jakby co...|pg||
nt|ady: not going well|pg||
nt|lml: this should make the endplay obvious|pg||
pc|d2|nt|davidstern: Losing 0-1-1-2|pg||
nt|davidstern: Down 1 I estimate|pg||
nt|kit: Weinstein waits expectantly for third diamond to come through -- he is disappointed.|pg||
nt|gracelin: lucky for China the opening lead only costs them an overtrick.|pg||
nt|kit: did he really lead a club from dummy?  I find that hard to believe|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: for voice commentators   yes, lead was @CA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with 32 trump   may start with @DA|pg||
nt|brgpro: but since W had the right explaination, he had to X and have no objection for the wrong info his pd got|pg||
nt|rv: now 14 IMPS|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|s5|nt|odysseus69: well done by North but ducking club jack was VERY anti percentage|pg||
nt|panosk: actually trying to discard hearts from dummy and ruff his heart loser in hand|pg||
nt|panosk: *from hand|pg||
nt|panosk: also found out that spades arent 3-3 |pg||
pc|s3|nt|antoniz: oby tak skutecznie jak ze Szwecj¹ do tej pory:)|pg||
nt|kit: In other room contract is 5@C, which is much more interesting.|pg||
nt|pbundy: i would :)|pg||
pc|h7|nt|rnmalik: wd|pg||
nt|panosk: Isreal in 6@S in previous gained them a hefty 13 imps , new leader|pg||
nt|bt: mainly because he has nothing to play back, and maybe north will play for a @D underlead|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|wild card: now his only hope is for west to have only 2 or 3 trumps|pg||
nt|andersk: Upmark not happy with that, however the split makes it easy|pg||
pc|dK|nt|ady: played for K@C with south when north played low   and king to come down in 3|pg||
nt|panosk: if N had K@D cud have made |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: or jack|pg||
nt|panosk: well not really if N ducked heart ruff decl wud have to play diamonds himself|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: wd S|pg||
pc|d3|nt|lml: so who wants to be endplayed|pg||
nt|lml: :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Pachtman did wait for it - he just claimed 9 tricks|pg||
nt|ady: did not bither with club finesse|pg||
nt|ady: bother|pg||
nt|xenya: so the par here is 5@CX -1|pg||
nt|ritong: he has something to play back|pg||
nt|brolucius: West hoped that partner had a top trump and a doubleton club. He could then win and cross to @CA for a ruff.|pg||
nt|barnets: a spade was led|pg||
nt|brgpro: N doesnt look like to have sing. @dK...so small @d...|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: on the auction   hard to imagine @DQ being bad play|pg||
nt|roswolf: just the 3 imps|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i wonder what the record is for most bbo vugraph tables in play at any one time|pg||
nt|brolucius: This is the lull after a 36-IMP storm.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: whew   i got that in print just in time|pg||
nt|rv: Dennis did Bocchi actually @DK or @SK?|pg||
pc|c9|nt|xenya: which seems his only chance as @S K is certainly offside|pg||
pc|hK|nt|ady: double squeeze now|pg||
nt|ady: north has to keep a top club  and south has to keep heart  so 3rd diamond is a trick|pg||
nt|davidstern: Ah can get there often enough|pg||
nt|runnerup: good guess -but still looses imps|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2nd overtrick is worth a pip|pg||
nt|joest: the power of the seven of spades |pg||
pc|s7|nt|panosk: i learn as i go :)|pg||
nt|barnets: which gives aqway a trick|pg||
nt|rv: many specs pointing out he must have played @DK|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: play is shown as it went|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|d5|nt|barnets: for def|pg||
nt|kit: might not be a lull -- check out other room.|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|wild card: well done, smelled his chance to make|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: a short break requested by one of the players|pg||
nt|panosk: still very gd play from Zack|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we have 12 from Veldhoven and  now 2 from Turkey|pg||
nt|brolucius: They have had no storm in that room, though.|pg||
pc|h2|nt|vugraphznv: aktualne wyniki: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/nl/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|rv: ok ty|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SQT982HK43DJ43CJ2,SAHAQ92DAK2CQ7543,SKJ7543HJ8DT86C86,S6HT765DQ975CAKT9|sv|o|nt|gavin:  because they dont open random 11 counts|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1S|mb|3S!|nt|gavin:  Lall gets to show his 1-4-4-4 "game force"|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: 3@s = 1-4-4-4|pg||
nt|gavin:  6@C is a very good contract|pg||
mb|4S|nt|kit: 2@S by Levin would have shut this out|pg||
mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gavin:  if diamonds break 3-3 its cold on an endplay with north|pg||
pc|s7|nt|gavin:  and if they dont you still survive on 1 of 2 finesses in hearts|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: good hand for this auction says Grue |pg||
pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d5|nt|gavin:  by cashing a high club from dummy first|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
nt|gavin:  west ensures he can pick up a 4-0 break no matter which way they break|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d9|nt|gavin:  finessing the annoying opponent who holds Jxxx of trumps|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SQT982HK43DJ43CJ2,SAHAQ92DAK2CQ7543,SKJ7543HJ8DT86C86,S6HT765DQ975CAKT9|sv|o|nt|famus: Where is that imp??|pg||
nt|athene: in the open room|pg||
nt|ritong: a bit strong for a w2, no?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: maybe its on its way on Board 29|pg||
nt|lechcold: druga nieskuteczna rozgrywka Martensa w tym meczu|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: 6 trefli by³o ³adne na NS|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: didnt wait|pg||
nt|boedhy:  looking at board 26 the Netherlands were lucky Villas didnt pass..|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: a little discussion about the number of tricks for NS|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: a system win worth 7 imps to Iceland you'd have to say|pg||
nt|bt: i dont think east could have anything on the auction|pg||
nt|brolucius: No.|pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: No, i prosze - jaki ³adny kontrakt...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but does that beat the spread for Italy v China?|pg||
nt|roswolf: and duly made|pg||
nt|nkgupt: OR in slam on priv.|pg||
nt|brgpro: the Dutch are in 6@H OR|pg||
nt|bobholl: orange can use luck :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: yes he did|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: this the correct play :)|pg||
nt|kit: That is imcomprehensible to me.  If hearts had been 2-2, he would have just gone down when cold if ace of spades on.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or what Jack said|pg||
nt|brgpro: in any case, we are back to even|pg||
nt|rv: all our operators here in Holland have been superb, hardly any errors, I should't have asked for clarification|pg||
mb|p|nt|skaftij:  Very favourable lie of the cards for EW|pg||
nt|lml: Still both sides are playing very good bridge|pg||
nt|boedhy:  27 looks like a good board too|pg||
nt|ritong: not even the @c jack?|pg||
nt|jbennet: east was a little lucky that slam was only 50%. give west club queen as well and it would have been a more or  less cast-iron 6h. |pg||
nt|brgpro: after a prec 1@c and positive 1@h...|pg||
nt|roswolf: well team orange on a roll|pg||
mb|p|nt|skaftij:  6@h can be made but is odds against|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: he claimed 11|pg||
nt|bt: if he has the jack he has no entry|pg||
nt|skaftij:  the nebulous @d|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=2+@D  a) unbal 10-15 HCP  b) Bal 11-13|pg||
nt|barnets: dec will now make 5@C|pg||
mb|1C|nt|famus: yes that cud a handful|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 27 / SORRY|pg||
nt|famus: be*|pg||
nt|ady: likely e/w will reach 4@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@C=15-20 BAL or game force |pg||
nt|rnmalik: 6@S on the cards.|pg||
nt|wild card: north's hand looks like 6@s|pg||
nt|yuval10: note how both W's answered with only 1 point over 1@c|pg||
nt|panosk: and 5 imps to Isreal for not quitting desperate contract|pg||
nt|leao:  board 26 also took its toll|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2@d= 5@s5@h|pg||
nt|ahollan1: inverted 2@D    |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i will tell him off at the end :)|pg||
nt|brgpro: 1@s again?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2 boards to score    USA2 over USA1 by 36|pg||
nt|joest: USA2 with a strong result next door which USA1 needs to duplicte|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: [sorry  or unbal 5+@C 15+ HCP]   1@H=4+@S|pg||
nt|odysseus69: Bulgaria need the points much more than Israel who were 3rd over night|pg||
nt|ady: no good fit for n/s   heading for 3NT   |pg||
nt|ady: not wild about overcall   |pg||
nt|mdgraham: 4@s only one down?|pg||
nt|rv: at this stage in the event, whoever makes lesser mistakes or last but one mistake wins:)|pg||
nt|joest: duplicate|pg||
mb|d|nt|ritong: not mentioning @h Kxx, always a small problem to hold Hxx in other major|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but i forgot Martel was allowed to bid|pg||
nt|ady: 3NT  making here n/s|pg||
nt|panosk: if you cancell out 2 slams one gained and one lost for each team the vast majority of imps were scored by part scores|pg||
nt|boedhy:  Not goo dfor Brasil tho who should imo be possible to end up in the top 8 is getting difficult |pg||
nt|ady: 3@C  must show diamonds|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 3@c is a transfer to 3@d|pg||
nt|ady: 10 tricks in diamonds|pg||
nt|ady: 4@H a possibilty for n/s|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: 5@C the limit for EW|pg||
nt|xenya: as expected, 3N on 9 was made in the OR -- 10 imps to Italy|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Dubion had PASS out of the box more than once - and chooses to stay with it|pg||
nt|bardo: no il +1 non c'è stato|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is good to see that there are some hands where 2@H is opened on both sides of the Atlantic.|pg||
nt|roswolf: i would bid 1nt on west's hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: wouldnt stop north bidding but would give pard some info|pg||
nt|gracelin: he set up a trap.|pg||
nt|roswolf: south may pass here?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@H is obstructive|pg||
nt|rv: exciting bridge, but not necessarily high-quality|pg||
nt|joest: interestingly enough at the other table, Justin Lall just parked the heart suit and splintered with 3@s right away which made the auction simpler on this layout|pg||
mb|3C!|an|mixed raise?|nt|athene: ok, NS system in the other room put west on lead against the slam, so japan didn't get their imp |pg||
nt|brolucius: East OK for a diamond pre-empt, as I see it. No need to worry about a big heart fit because N/S would then have a big spade fit.|pg||
nt|barnets: he has a ruffing finesse in spades|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW in the other room play Strong @C  so  completely different meanings of bids|pg||
nt|joest: ah I see.  Thanks Al|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@S was game force, no 5+ suit|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hard to stay out of @H here|pg||
mb|4H|nt|skaftij:  But not likely to go beyond 2@s|pg||
nt|leao:  NS have 4@s|pg||
nt|leao:  and EW do not have 4@h|pg||
nt|bt: ew overcompeted here in the other room|pg||
nt|roswolf: the trap wasnt sprung|pg||
nt|gracelin: yes, Madala made a discipline pass.|pg||
nt|pbundy: this would be my lead here, too :)|pg||
nt|jbennet: looks like +140.|pg||
nt|brgpro: now 3NT|pg||
nt|brgpro: yes...everytime i played BB, i lost 4-5 kgs at the end |pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: interesting|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Play in @h. low to 8 first |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Zero leads|pg||
nt|ady: is 1@D forcing?|pg||
nt|roswolf: west will be a bit jaundiced|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: the cards lie very well for north-south|pg||
nt|ehsana: DBL was nota good option ??|pg||
nt|wild card: this will probably force p to bid 4@s, he will ask for keycards|pg||
nt|yuval10: the logic is to enable partner to bid with a big hand and /or 2 suiter hand in which he doesn't open 2@c with |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: West: I hop I don't have to much|pg||
nt|panosk: * Israel sorry|pg||
nt|skaftij:  When entering dummy second time, run the 10|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: will west offer notrumps, or just bash in 4@S?|pg||
nt|athene: he surely must bid SOME game, with a good 17 count facing drury|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: why not?|pg||
nt|athene: versace going for singleton heart with his partner and an immediate knockout|pg||
nt|ady: would need a club ruff to beat 4@H   but n/s not in the bidding|pg||
nt|bt: this is the type of auctions where north has to base his action on south having some values, like 6-7 hcp|pg||
nt|brolucius: Look at the Open Room bidding, by putting your cursor on the Open Room result (top left). East broke a fundamental rule of bidding by going to 4@H, He had made a limit bid and knew ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: little of what partner held.|pg||
nt|skaftij:  hmm|pg||
nt|kit: Weinstein would have some chances if Levin's ace of hearts were ace of diamonds.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Playing 'ace for attitude, king for count' leads, North could lead the @SK to ask partner to unblock any honor he might hold, otherwise to give count. This would allow North to ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: judge if the @SQ was falling from West.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: confession    i would lead @D|pg||
nt|jbennet: and now a possible +200.|pg||
nt|roswolf: they will have been in worse partscores|pg||
nt|ady: west should tell his partner not to be concerned for overtricks|pg||
nt|brgpro: so this is a very tough event to play in|pg||
nt|joest: I think Stansby might have tried something more than 4@h.  Perhaps redouble or 3@s|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: curiously  most tables will have identical auction even though very different inferences|pg||
nt|star6ija: have to go now , see you at 4:45 CET for the next Bulgaria's hard fight agains Poland|pg||
nt|star6ija: bye|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: bye|pg||
nt|ady: bye|pg||
nt|ady: need to take some care here   defenders each had a side suit singleton|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: cards on the table..thinking|pg||
nt|kamyk: ale by³ to sensowny plan - krótki @DK u wchodz¹cego|pg||
nt|lechcold: dziwna gra|pg||
nt|yuval10: and in worst case you play 2NT with the points equal between both sides|pg||
nt|sybarra: does Campos sit?|pg||
nt|sybarra: nope |pg||
nt|szalay: I think weak openings survive cause weak overcall is coming|pg||
nt|skaftij:  lost opportunity for Iceland|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i've only ruled out @H lead|pg||
nt|kit: North does have a problem here -- but as the hand is, anything but king of spades defeats the contract.|pg||
nt|ady: north surprise at 2NT with what he has in spades|pg||
nt|roswolf: some good some bad and some indifferent bridge but boy very exciting too|pg||
nt|nkgupt: italy likely to loose a few on this one|pg||
nt|bobholl: hope sjoert won't guess to lead a @S|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
nt|jbennet: will defenders kan take all their 6 tricks?. |pg||
nt|brgpro: he heard me...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: agree Jack   4@H seems premature|pg||
pc|s6|nt|skaftij:  this can be defeated with 3x @s after takin @cs|pg||
nt|boedhy:  so south didnt bid anything yet (thats a first) and his partner bids 4@s and he has thid hand....|pg||
nt|ahollan1: trump makes a lot of sense |pg||
nt|skaftij:  good lead|pg||
nt|xenya: and a lot of tricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: especially with West showing at least invitational strength|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 2@d=good raise to 2@h, as they are playing transfers after the double |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they do, both explained it as good @H raise|pg||
nt|mdgraham: so East may well bid 4@h now, knowing the good fit|pg||
nt|mdgraham: and then NS may save....|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 4@D sounds strange to me... what should it mean, cant be to prepare a sac against 4@S since you would pass 3 probably...|pg||
nt|dburn:  4@d shows diamonds|pg||
nt|dburn:  and offers a possible contract|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: yes but why would you do?|pg||
nt|dburn:  I know there are very few bids in the modern game, but this is one of them|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: might|pg||
nt|mdgraham: that's revolutionary, 4@D showing diamonds|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S=takeout  0-3@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but  also give credit to Big Club system :)|pg||
nt|joest: indeed|pg||
pc|s2|nt|famus: i think it was the right thing to do|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, and @h K might be a falsecard with KJx|pg||
nt|ehsana: 4S has a chnace now|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and declarer will make this one - is my guess|pg||
nt|ady: another chance for Bulgaria|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 3S shows 4S and 5H - Smolen is what I thnk its called|pg||
nt|leao:  no 5@s with d lead|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: evryone is saying 6@C on the major squeeze|pg||
nt|skaftij:  that will take care of (A)Qxx in North|pg||
nt|brolucius: He could hardly hope to shut out a spade fit if North/South held one.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i think he can make this but is not easy|pg||
nt|runnerup: so he took @s finess after all|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|skaftij:  At last some action :-)|pg||
nt|lml: the problem here is getting to the 1 point hand|pg||
nt|yuval10: also of course it makes life tougher for opps|pg||
nt|barnets: so fleishers imagination brought in 10 more tricks for usa|pg||
nt|barnets: 10 more imps |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 51-5 this set|pg||
nt|barnets: i meant|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: big set for the americans|pg||
nt|barnets: fleisher Kamil were very effective in round robinthird in Butler scoring|pg||
nt|brolucius: North might instead have led the @S10, since he expected West to hold a spade stopper and the lower lead might work well when South held only two spades.|pg||
nt|grebrof: even 2@s could have been 3@s, but the suit is kinda thin and maybe even short nowadays when you dbl with any opening hand|pg||
nt|mdgraham: so game missed :(|pg||
nt|bobholl: well this is the best lead for that|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wooldridge also did VERY well not to push too hard|pg||
pc|d2|nt|xenya: can be made on this lead|pg||
nt|lml: once they didnt lead hearts it can be made if you guess all|pg||
nt|yuval10: he just play A@s and J@s|pg||
nt|lml: you need to tap the dummy at trick two|pg||
nt|ady: n/s do have 10 tricks in clubs|pg||
nt|roswolf: 12-7 to team orange thus far - awesome bridge|pg||
nt|ahollan1: high level bridge as a way to lose weight  -  a new campaign for the acbl!!|pg||
nt|rv: this is 11th consecutive day of 48 brds, teams playing finals have to play 3 more days|pg||
pc|d6|nt|athene: east a little worried about diamonds|pg||
nt|athene: @CK lead not all that appealing on this auction|pg||
nt|athene: west likely to have a strong notrump sort of hand; it could easily cost|pg||
nt|rv: lol Al|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|odysseus69: new leader|pg||
nt|yuval10: of course easier said than done|pg||
nt|kit: Weinstein works out that there is no miracle layout, so sets up his diamond trick to minimize the damage.|pg||
nt|barnets: the butler scoring scores your result with every other pair playing in opposite direction|pg||
nt|ady: 10 tricks|pg||
nt|roswolf: this set|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|ady: 1 top trump helps|pg||
nt|lechcold: 130 i -2 impy|pg||
nt|leao:  best decision. shug go 2 off|pg||
nt|boedhy:  ah finally he bids|pg||
nt|barnets: and gives a rough idea how each pair is playing|pg||
pc|hT|nt|wild card: probably he wasn't considering anything else than 6@s, but east had some questions about the auction or kept the tray for a couple of seconds|pg||
nt|rnmalik: No play, can cash a @C otherwise make 7.|pg||
nt|rv: 1 IMP for needy here|pg||
nt|brgpro: good lead...to save an imp|pg||
pc|h3|nt|athene: trump lead is very appealing on this bidding so duboin might play north for the @SQ from the failure to lead a trump|pg||
nt|ady: west not leading a heart as north had shown 5 hearts  4 spades and a game going hand with 3@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm told that Brink is allergic to PASS cards|pg||
pc|h2|nt|famus: is he going to hook @s straight away?|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: unfortunately the bidding didn't help them diagnose the obvious squeeze :) 1 to me|pg||
nt|xenya: i can't make out NS's auction at all|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: looks like  11  Stefanov may actually make 4@H in the Moysian fit|pg||
nt|ady: small trump best|pg||
nt|odysseus69: look it up - i will ask|pg||
nt|ady: but e/w have the same in diamonds|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in college systems were invented to ensure i was on opening lead|pg||
pc|d8|nt|ady: cant see how that helps defence|pg||
nt|lechcold: zarówno 1BA jak i pas na 1BA jako mi siê nie podobaj¹:(|pg||
nt|boedhy:  think 5@s is makeable...|pg||
nt|sybarra: club club  maybe|pg||
nt|mdgraham: West will not be pleased with this, I think - but they will score more than if they defended 4@sx  |pg||
pc|d5|nt|athene: on the other hand the threat of a club ruff might make him just bash out @SAK|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Now, it be even go 2 down|pg||
nt|skaftij:  East will surely ditch a @h|pg||
nt|odysseus69: what is the range of 1NT - 14-16 i guess but sure to find out in a moment|pg||
nt|ady: 11 in OR     maybe an extra heart as they lay|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|leao:  not with @d lead and @h back :)|pg||
nt|boedhy:  they cannt get there @d tricks|pg||
nt|bt: are the nz team allowed to do that "haka" before their matches? seems like they did against usa1|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|ady: best for declarer to play 2nd round of clubs from east hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: in the tank now|pg||
nt|ady: of course we can see that   easier|pg||
nt|skaftij:  2 times @c|pg||
nt|brolucius: I remember someone sending me a message saying that it was ridiculously unfair on the players for the Butler ranking to be published. Amazing view. |pg||
nt|ahollan1: thru 14   Netherlands over Italy by 3|pg||
pc|c3|nt|pawel90:  1BA pokazuje bilans przynajmniej|pg||
nt|lechcold: aczkolwiek mo¿na znaleæ uzasadnienie dla obu odzywek..|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Seems that goes for Drijver as well|pg||
nt|roswolf: AH THANK YOU for the implied compliment - Plato the Phiosopher|pg||
nt|roswolf: a solid result for the azurri|pg||
nt|roswolf: probably:)|pg||
nt|rv: 2 hrs 20 mins for 16 brds per session, 8.5 mins per deal played with bidding boxes and screens|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|nt|odysseus69: 14-16 confirmed|pg||
nt|panosk: eventually will play diamonds and that is his problem, how to?|pg||
nt|leao:  if he goes for a xruff he may go -1 only|pg||
nt|leao:  rite... always -2|pg||
nt|gracelin: The turbulance seems to be over for he Italians.  They start to play solid bridge with sound judgment as usual.|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: he needed to float @S to make  but hard to picture Martel's shape|pg||
nt|ady: ruff a heart  then a@C and a club|pg||
nt|lml: this is a very sensible line|pg||
nt|yuval10: and naturally you play AK@s and go down|pg||
nt|xenya: wrong...|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|barnets: maybe that was fro a player who was performing poorly|pg||
nt|brolucius: Might as well say that you should not announce the football results if a team has lost by more than four goals.|pg||
nt|ady: now 11|pg||
nt|brgpro: interesting rebid after a prec 1@c and 1@d response from pd in OR. will E pass on that?|pg||
nt|bobholl: 2 @D is also ok with me :)|pg||
pc|h5|nt|ryskiel_: czy kto mo¿e zna termin V Kolumna...to co z wojny hiszpañskiej w 36 roku|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ady: yes I believe in smollen  3@H  after stayman and 2 diamond response would have been the same   but not game forcing?|pg||
nt|lml: it just doesnt work|pg||
nt|barnets: :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: need to play well in the next 2 sets|pg||
nt|roswolf: do the dutch wear clogs when they are happy?|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|kit: Of course for the Butler there is some luck involving which pairs you play against, but for the most part the luck evens out and it is a pretty good representation of how things ...|pg||
nt|kit: went at your table.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 16 boards to play in SemiFinal after we finish this set|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|brolucius: Very good, Lars.|pg||
nt|jbennet: but probably it will still be 140|pg||
mc|12|nt|athene: he has to duck to preserve the entry to the fourth club|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: signaling is asked by N now to E|pg||
nt|ehsana: better this way on this holding|pg||
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qx|o15|st||md|1SAK82HAJD73CAKQ65,S4HT8642DT86CT842,ST73HQ753DAKJ4C97,SQJ965HK9DQ952CJ3|sv|n|nt|gavin:  grue claims on the endplay|pg||
nt|gavin:  for those who didnt visualize it, picture grue discarding his little heart|pg||
nt|gavin:  and then playing a heart to the 9|pg||
mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|gavin:  north has no winning plays, even if they started with KJx of hearts|pg||
mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|kit: Weinstein stretching for 2@C opening -- looks like this will get them to failing slam|pg||
mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|gavin:  so 3@C asked for 4 or 5 card majors|pg||
nt|gavin:  3@D said I have a four card major |pg||
mb|5N|nt|kit: They will stop if Levin only invites -- but that is a pretty good hand opposite a 2@C opener|pg||
nt|gavin:  3@S said I have 4@H|pg||
nt|gavin:  3NT said missed me|pg||
nt|kit: 5NT is pick a slam|pg||
mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|nt|gavin:  5NT by levin is to discover if a 4-4 diamond fit is available|pg||
mb|6D|nt|gavin:  you can easily see with levin's hand how 6@D could be easy |pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin:  compared to 6@C|pg||
nt|gavin:  err 6NT|pg||
mb|6N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Actually 6@C or 6NT can make with spade-diamond squeeze on East I believe, but don't know play will go that way|pg||
nt|gavin:  and levin can safely bid 6@D as an offer to play, because weinstein knows that levin doesnt have 5@D (would bid 4@D over 3NT)|pg||
nt|kit: First of all, Grue has to lead something|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: and Grue has taken off his glasses|pg||
nt|gavin:  Such an annoying hand to lead from|pg||
nt|gavin:  grue must start with the idea that his lead will affect the outcome of the slam|pg||
pc|h6|nt|kit: this is very helpful lead -- now he probably will fall into squeeze|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|kit: At the end he will know East started with 4 diamonds, so will play for squeeze as percentage over finesse.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|gavin:  he may not have the chance for that info kit|pg||
nt|gavin:  when he sells a club to grue|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|h3|nt|kit: However, if he fails to cash ace of hearts before giving up club, diamond shift will defeat him|pg||
nt|kit: and I don't think he will get that right|pg||
nt|gavin:  yeah thats where i was headed|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|gavin:  he will definitely not cash ace of hearts now|pg||
nt|kit: no wait -- can end in dummy, for same squeeze -- sorry|pg||
nt|gavin:  weinstein knows he is going to have to make a discard on the next club|pg||
pc|sK|nt|gavin:  so he is considering his options|pg||
pc|s4|nt|kit: But will he play for that?|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
nt|gavin:  he cashes a high spade to make sure it isnt QJ doubleton|pg||
pc|c6|nt|kit: and East should have dropped honor!|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s7|pc|s9|pg||
nt|gavin:  now a diamond from grue|pg||
pc|d6|nt|kit: East is now pretty much known to have 6 spades -- he might read this.|pg||
pc|dA|nt|kit: sorry, 5 spades|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pg||
nt|gavin:  certainly no reason to take the finesse right then|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sA|nt|kit: oh no|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg||
nt|gavin:  yes cashed those in the wrong order|pg||
pc|c5|nt|gavin:  will regret that later|pg||
pc|h8|nt|kit: I have no idea why he didn't cross with the heart.  Does anybody see what he was playing for?|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1SAK82HAJD73CAKQ65,S4HT8642DT86CT842,ST73HQ753DAKJ4C97,SQJ965HK9DQ952CJ3|sv|n|nt|athene: a chance for japan there, certainly|pg||
nt|lml: and 9 tricks in a normal 1NT contract|pg||
nt|ritong: would you downgrade west?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: that 11th trick on board 30 might be the "1 imp" board for Pakistan|pg||
nt|famus: ah--went thru some transfer sequences--great|pg||
nt|lml: double dummy glasses :0|pg||
nt|boedhy:  so this will not be too expensive with even 5@s making|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 10 min left for 2 boards|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: a hard earned imp Iceland|pg||
nt|bt: good result by ns, not enough to avoid loosing 5 imps|pg||
nt|antoniz: du¿a sztua|pg||
nt|antoniz: sztuka|pg||
nt|davidstern: NZ just need to pick up 2 VPs to be in equal 8th with Sweden|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2@s was forcing, but Brink didn't know why he bid|pg||
nt|gracelin: I am not sure  has more pressure in the final 2 sets, The Chinese or the Italians ?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 2 to go..30 mins...|pg||
nt|rv: these folks are on schedule|pg||
nt|joest: that was an adverse swing that USA1 could ill afford|pg||
mb|1C|nt|ritong: i don t think versace will|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is a teaser for e/w|pg||
nt|jbennet: i think he made the right guess because the blub 8 att trick 1 was played without any flicker whatsoever|pg||
nt|ahollan1: prestige points if you identify song   who's lyrics i just quoted|pg||
nt|roswolf: counting chickens before they are hatched is the same in uk!|pg||
mb|p|nt|wild card: north's hand looks like 3NT|pg||
nt|oosmanb: part game battle|pg||
nt|ritong: tea time, david|pg||
nt|bt: this is a bad 14 count, and fallenius agrees|pg||
nt|bt: losing|pg||
nt|mdgraham: after 1@H-dbl, what about 3@D as a fit-jump? East might be better placed then|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: we will resume in 1h and 15 mins from now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 87 imps swung this set   net gain for Italy ....  5|pg||
nt|brgpro: let's see how they run after 1NT opening|pg||
nt|rv: double here to show values|pg||
nt|ahollan1: what do you think of Weinstein 2@C opener?|pg||
mb|1H|nt|wild card: the heart stopper and the high card point count are not sufficient though|pg||
nt|bt: he will show it as 11-13|pg||
nt|ady: big mis fit e/w  if they get busy|pg||
nt|ahollan1: was there some psychological point to 3 rounds of @C ending in dummy?    there was no longer transportation to protect against West holding @DJxxx|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: why not 1N from Karaivanov???   i thought 9-12 in this situation|pg||
nt|rnmalik: action hand 4@S and 5@D.|pg||
nt|leao:  31-2 with no good boards coming is not a goo omen|pg||
nt|ady: sorry   lost connection|pg||
nt|oosmanb: 1NT by N most likely|pg||
nt|oosmanb: by South actually|pg||
nt|brolucius: South has bid 1@S in response to his partner's transfer bid.|pg||
nt|bt: probably east passed and south bid 1@S|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 11-14, 1nt is 15-17 when vul|pg||
nt|davidstern: So having commentated live for two sessions and with my fingers for one session I wish you all adieu|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 14-16|pg||
nt|kit: Weinstein taking full advantage of the vulnerability to jack up the auction.|pg||
nt|mdgraham: still, too late now|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 1@d=4+@H|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: well yes, mostly 4card support for fit jumps... though still not getting 4@D, if she has support 4@H should be reasonalbe if she has not she will correct to 4@H anyway...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: vulnerable   jump overcalls are intermediate|pg||
nt|jbennet: had north had club ace and not the jack, hi might have at least ponder for 1 sec or 2|pg||
nt|brgpro: i  believe we have similar things in chinese but i cant remember any!|pg||
nt|kit: Note West opens 1NT even though no rebid problems after opening 1@D.  This is becoming the common trend.|pg||
nt|brgpro: 17 opposite 4...they were in 3NT?|pg||
nt|roswolf: seems odd byt true|pg||
nt|ahollan1: PASS=forcing unless 4333|pg||
nt|rv: on weak nt, double is usually played as values, on strong nt some play conventional treatment |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: pass by muller not forcing|pg||
nt|joest: I like it.  He upgraded to above 21 balanced which with all those controls and an AKQxx suit seems reasonable to me|pg||
mb|2S|nt|lml: both teams are playing good bridge with Canada making a few good decisions |pg||
nt|lechcold: to nie bêdzie ciekawe rozdanie|pg||
nt|bt: aha ok|pg||
nt|roswolf: showing hearts + unspecified?|pg||
mb|p|nt|udo: no,,,,,,,1NT is a preempt,,so never downgrade:)|pg||
nt|brolucius: No, sorry, 1@S for take-out.|pg||
nt|barnets: 5@D in open on 30|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I think so|pg||
nt|ahollan1: vanProoijen-Verhees  play Raptor NT overcall  so  DBL is needed with Strong NT|pg||
nt|brgpro: well...they dont!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i agree with upgrade, but not sure about treating as balanced|pg||
nt|joest: this overcall threw a monkey wrench into Wooldridge's plan to jump to 2@s :)|pg||
nt|joest: so he bid 2@s anyway|pg||
nt|joest: then you might prefer Wooldridge's plan|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i started playing big club systems in 1971 :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but yes   i think i would have opened 1@C playing standard|pg||
nt|joest: north-south might pick up steam but if they don't this is another large swing against USA1 and they will be in the danger zone imho|pg||
mb|3D|nt|wild card: 5@d needs attentive declarer play|pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: Do zwrotu 2@H@H i@C...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: He is showing 2 suits, but couldn't read which one is specified|pg||
nt|ady: keep out now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: everybody recognizes Pinball Wizard|pg||
nt|nkgupt: that time better to count the eggs i suppose|pg||
nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
nt|bobholl: but you know the dutch saying :)|pg||
nt|jbennet: so on this board the numer of tricks changed froma start defender 6: declarer 7: after the heart play from west defenders: 5 declarer:8.|pg||
nt|meargent: they might get to 6@Ss if west refuses transfer|pg||
nt|kit: This super-accept will get East very interested in slam|pg||
nt|rv: I prefer DONT runouts or Twisted swine on double of weak nt|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and with full disclosure   EW do announce that West is some 4333|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: opening 1NT has other virtues than showing 15/17|pg||
nt|ady: too high e/w|pg||
nt|ady: 11 tricks for n/s in hearts   though e/w have a good save in spades|pg||
nt|xenya: or S|pg||
nt|bt: well he better take it oout then|pg||
nt|brolucius: North showed spades, so East had a 1@S bid for take-out. Double would mean something else.|pg||
nt|roswolf: north tempted to pass the t/ox|pg||
nt|roswolf: but chose the macho bid|pg||
nt|brgpro: sorry...i will never question again....both teams in the BB semi final got to 3NT...|pg||
nt|brgpro: i am only sitting here watching...i must have missed something|pg||
nt|roswolf: :) different level of bridge - my club game tonight will be pedestrian by comparison|pg||
nt|rv: playing DONT runouts, XX is single suiter, 2@c is @c+another, 2@d is @d+maj, 2@h is majors|pg||
mb|3N|nt|vugraphznv: Tournament Director has arrived and tells they have 10 minutes left|pg||
nt|davidstern: Keep sell and see you soon|pg||
nt|xenya: bye David, thanks :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: mb|pg||
mb|p|nt|pawel90:  ja muszÄ lecieÄ, dziekuje wszystkim|pg||
nt|lechcold: 3@C to podwy¿szony Puppet Stayman chyba|pg||
nt|kamyk: 3@C to pewnie pytanie o st, pi¹tkê|pg||
nt|antoniz: tak|pg||
nt|kit: But normal 4@S contract reached, and with no bad splits appears to make easily.|pg||
nt|brolucius: 40 years ago, or so, it was thought ungentlemanly to give the name of the declarer if he had made a stupid play and done down. Also ridiculous. Continuing the football analogy, can ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: you imagine the Times reporting that 'one of the Arsenal players missed a penalty in the 52nd minute'?|pg||
nt|kit: well, if I'm writing up a match and somebody makes a bad play, the world will know exactly who.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think Mike Lawrence in seminal book of Overcalls was first to suggest IN WRITING   situational strength of jump overcalls|pg||
nt|brgpro: just learned!|pg||
nt|rv: playing twisted swing, all of the above and pass forces redouble by partner to play or run (2@c) with 4333|pg||
nt|rv: twisted swine|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @SA ask attitude  @S9=discourage|pg||
nt|brgpro: not that terrible...maybe just -2with 3NT making NS|pg||
nt|brgpro: might even be a small gain|pg||
nt|brgpro: i meant -3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Drijver  3N North|pg||
nt|ahollan1: typical holding for lead of Ace   AKx|pg||
nt|joest: so Hurd must be wondering: what kind of a hand does partner have where he would Q first and not just jump to 3NT last time?|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: 10 tricks claimed very shortly |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: a normal 3nt|pg||
nt|skaftij:  good sacrifice|pg||
nt|lechcold: prawie na jedno wychodzi:)|pg||
nt|leao:  this shud make and be flat|pg||
nt|boedhy:  thats true but then again it depends were you stand |pg||
nt|sybarra: maybe even I could make this one|pg||
nt|brolucius: I suppose the writer did not want his own mistakes written up later.|pg||
nt|brolucius: North's double is a take-out double and South has the usualy two duties: to choose a trump suit (or NT) and to show the strength of his hand. Here 2@S would not show his extra ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: strength. |pg||
nt|ady: ended quietly|pg||
nt|gracelin: trump lead?|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes they punt the game regardless|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer can work on either clubs or diamonds as both suits break favorably for declarer.|pg||
nt|roswolf: this looks ok with the even breaks|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: do you like bypassing diamonds|pg||
nt|lml: it did work to get them a diamond lead|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: lead is asked @d 6|pg||
nt|athene: it's definitely not a bad 15 count|pg||
nt|wild card: I guess he'll lead Q of @c|pg||
nt|ady: need A@D right     predictably both rooms in game|pg||
nt|yuval10: running scores :  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|brolucius: South's double will be a Support Double, showing 3-card support for partner's spades.|pg||
nt|bt: wow usa clearly wants to choose sweden|pg||
nt|barnets: I think that is right - some writers go out there way not to though|pg||
nt|gracelin: Italy got one swing by making 4H on the hand Bocchi shift to D to set it.|pg||
nt|mdgraham: opening bids are getting lighter|pg||
nt|kit: But RKC will tell them they are off an ace and the queen of trumps.  East will then stop, since there could be third round heart or club problems from his point of view.|pg||
nt|rialc2: 21 but very good deal: E/W must be very careful to bit this game|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @H5 "attitude"|pg||
nt|brgpro: if W jumps up the A, he needs to switch to a @C|pg||
nt|roswolf: e/w must take care here|pg||
nt|brgpro: now looking at the cards, i realize why i am not playing there...|pg||
nt|rialc2: and then he has to duck the 2nd @C |pg||
nt|ahollan1: @H8 played in other room|pg||
nt|roswolf: that certainly looks correct|pg||
nt|brgpro: after @h8 , declarer almost has 0% chance...too much to do and defence will find @c switch soon or after|pg||
nt|roswolf: agreed jack|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hurd close to a 4N raise|pg||
nt|joest: yes: likely answer to my question is a hand too big to bid 3NT last round|pg||
pc|s4|nt|wild card: plenty of time to shift to a heart later on|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Q alright but @D:)|pg||
nt|ady: -300 in 4@S    dont thin n/s can be sure of 5@H|pg||
nt|ady: they have taken the push|pg||
nt|runnerup: do more + for Sw..|pg||
pc|s3|nt|ady: north pened a tactical lead direct 1 spade in 3rd seat to get the right lead if defending|pg||
nt|odysseus69: in OR South found a response to 1H - there is an old system called Acol- where 2H opener shows 8 or more tricks|pg||
nt|yuval10: a touch-and-go game, the Q@s makes this contract an excellent one|pg||
nt|brolucius: E/W have found their club fit.|pg||
nt|bt: that 1@S takeout was just horrendous and his poor partner has to play it|pg||
nt|jbennet: what a shot from south.|pg||
nt|jbennet: positive thinking.|pg||
nt|jbennet: and it will probably make,too.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so  Madala fears deWijs holding  HTxx|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but this was the risk -- fears a shift|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Andy -- you're right|pg||
nt|brgpro: as long as W opening the bidding in OR, 3NT shd be made|pg||
nt|andyv:  ty:)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yes  1@C opened in other room|pg||
nt|rv: Hi Andy, gm|pg||
pc|s9|nt|lml: ducked it ... cool|pg||
nt|ehsana: 2H shows 4spades|pg||
nt|ritong: that too|pg||
nt|udo: style is to upgrade much more often than the other way|pg||
nt|athene: three aces and the @H10 makes up for 4333|pg||
nt|leao:  if i can, u surely can :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 6nt looks cold|pg||
nt|skaftij:  kibs point out that AQxx cannot be handled |pg||
nt|skaftij:  EW play "HÃ¤xan"|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: east in the tank|pg||
nt|skaftij:  West has shown about 15-17|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: stil thinking|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Haraldsson will be reluctant|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they bid it in the open room|pg||
nt|skaftij:  otoh, they bid agressively|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: east is stil in the tank|pg||
nt|skaftij:  With 12-14 and @c, West would bid 2@c and revert to 2@h over 2@d I think|pg||
nt|ritong: thank you, pard|pg||
nt|bt: thing is we all make horrendous mistakes but it is partnerpreserving to play them yourself|pg||
nt|brolucius: East could not really hope to win the auction to good effect when his partner could not speak over 1@C. So, wiser to pass.|pg||
nt|bt: not only is woolridge upset over his partners bids, he also have to play a really awful contract|pg||
nt|brolucius: East is expecting better clubs opposite because he asked partner to choose between the red suits.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he could have doubled 1@H to get in the auction safely 1@S should have good shape including clubs on actual auction|pg||
nt|szalay: bald is very agressive today|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H denied 4-fit|pg||
nt|roswolf: TRUMP LEAD as expected by us commentators|pg||
nt|gracelin: declarer will probably win in hand to start D|pg||
nt|roswolf: oops|pg||
nt|brgpro: well done|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|lml: I like the small club|pg||
nt|lml: lets see if it gets north|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: perfect play the small @c|pg||
nt|xenya: not likely to make -- but you never know|pg||
nt|bt: thing is only real suit shown by ns is spades so a take out is for all other suits|pg||
nt|jbennet: east had a chance to x 3NT |pg||
nt|kit: West, however, isn't too worried about that -- so he might gamble on picking up the queen|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: the other semifinal can not be closer... 61-60|pg||
nt|brgpro: still need to duck the next @C( not so difficult?)|pg||
pc|cA|nt|kiwibridge: this is cruisy should be well in time|pg||
nt|skaftij:  running scores|pg||
nt|skaftij:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|skaftij:  pick a slam?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: now west turn|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: in the tank|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Some tell me West may have shown (17) 18-19|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Or they guess|pg||
nt|skaftij:  With no obvious fit, East lacks intermediates|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: west stil thinking|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Andy has been with us the entire time -- doing Voice Commentary with Hedy and Peter|pg||
nt|rv: yes he told me, Roland doing Voice in US-1 vs US-2?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: no  Roland in other room of our match|pg||
nt|ahollan1: BBO always doing voice in both rooms of one match|pg||
pc|c2|nt|vugraphznv: 6@c for iceland on board 12|pg||
nt|bt: anyway thanks hurd!!|pg||
nt|bt: you can come here anytime|pg||
pc|c7|nt|lml: had north wanted south on lead for something he may have ducked|pg||
nt|lml: looks like north will get a spade and a club for +1|pg||
nt|lml: for Baxter|pg||
nt|lml: Israel made an extra uptrick on the previous board to come back to a 9 imp deficit|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: +1 it seems to me|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: but N is thinking a lot|pg||
nt|lml: my guess is he will shift to a heart|pg||
nt|lml: it wont matter|pg||
nt|lml: second choice is another diamond|pg||
nt|lml: who thinks a heart?|pg||
nt|desinka:  yes|pg||
nt|desinka:  +1|pg||
nt|brolucius: Let me take this opportunity to thanks our splendid VG operator, Pim. Excellent session and we very much appreciate your efforts! |pg||
nt|runnerup: only one left so Sweden seems to be in|pg||
nt|gracelin: north didn't see D8 was played ?|pg||
nt|roswolf: YES the match tightens again|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: maybe I didn't...|pg||
nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
nt|rv: I suspect Wijs can scramble 4 tricks here for 3 IMPs pick-up|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i do :-)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: would like to see auction after  P-1N[9-12]|pg||
nt|odysseus69: when you have to open 1 heart you hold your breath |pg||
nt|mdgraham: I see West opened 1NT next door, with the 4441 shape   |pg||
nt|jbennet: now that would have alerted west not to panic.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @C3 attitude   so Muller should know to continue|pg||
nt|joest: Everybody has certainly been in worse 6NT contracts than this but it is pretty poor|pg||
pc|cK|nt|vugraphznv: Declarer just layed his cards down claiming 11 |pg||
nt|skaftij:  But Easts "quacks" are after al in PD's suits|pg||
nt|kit: It is possible that East's 3NT call showed some shortness, 4@c asked, and 4@D diamond shortness.|pg||
nt|joest: can 6NT make with doubleton heart king and then a squeeze gainst east?|pg||
pc|c4|nt|athene: right about now, in fact|pg||
nt|skaftij:  bd 30, Lauria in 3NT in OR|pg||
nt|ady: happy A@S with west    split aces  hopefully now|pg||
nt|panosk: just a diamond ruff in dummy needed here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in venice cup   Netherlands over USA1  now +13|pg||
nt|roswolf: too tired still -1 but defence must be accurate|pg||
nt|brgpro: can always get his @cK|pg||
nt|rv: @DQ and @CK in wash?|pg||
pc|c9|nt|udo: @S 3-2,, @H finesse,,all is fine|pg||
nt|udo: no @C ruff|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Kibs tell 5NT pick a slam|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: well they picked one that makes lol|pg||
nt|skaftij:  this will pull the match like 16-14 in Iceland favour|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: a looot of explanation going on|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: both sides of the screen|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: stil explanations|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: now North is settled after so much talk and is ready to lead|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: nope..cards on the table..... and thinking|pg||
nt|skaftij:  sry missed that Israel raeched the slam too, I get so many comments, thx|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: his head is burried inside his palms|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Better than 6NT|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: now...asking more questions|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: ....more questions lol|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: back to thinking ....do not go away|pg||
nt|skaftij:  With bidding like this and pauses like,  everyone is aware that the contact may be touch and go. They hate to give the match away on the penultimate deal|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: stil thinking|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this auction would be game force by unpassed hand|pg||
nt|skaftij:  HS can organise a ruff|pg||
nt|skaftij:  NS|pg||
nt|ady: can affford the finnesse|pg||
nt|meargent: or some sort of serious slam try|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|wild card: now the heart ruff is lost|pg||
nt|rnmalik: @H back would have yielded a ruff as well.|pg||
nt|leao:  he has to extract the @d ace b4 pulling trumps|pg||
nt|oosmanb: bath coup'esque |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: finaly a spade landed on the table|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|wild card: and it's only 300|pg||
nt|boedhy:  his @h are too good so no problems indeed|pg||
nt|xenya: so 4 or 5 to Sweden|pg||
nt|ady: lots of tricks now      4 spades   1 diamond   and  3 clubs|pg||
nt|gracelin: now defenders can play 3 round of trump so declarer might need to finesse CQ for a H pitch.  The D8 lost to D10 maybe damaging.|pg||
pc|c8|nt|brolucius: Many thanks also to my fellow commentators, Lars and Henry. It was an enjoyable session.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the 1@C opening showed 2+, conceivably can have 5 diamonds also if balanced|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nice shift|pg||
nt|kit: Declarer cannot pick up QJ8x in North hand, so proper play is ace first.|pg||
nt|meargent: this lead wont brused declarer but the no lead would in 5@Ss|pg||
nt|joest: miracle layout but yes|pg||
pc|h3|nt|vugraphznv: this is not good|pg||
nt|lml: that club play is a problem|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer uses the two trump entries to dummy to lead twice towards his club honours.|pg||
nt|gracelin: eclarer needs to finess in club now, or he is down|pg||
nt|gracelin: I am sure the Italian in other room will make this 4S, so if Shi goes down here, the match is almost even|pg||
nt|gracelin: play and defense are areas that the Italian have a big advantage ove other teams.|pg||
nt|roswolf: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm for link to results|pg||
nt|gracelin: they think harder and deeper.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm told Weinstein had reached the position but mistimed the play|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other room just started bidding  13|pg||
nt|nkgupt: sud be 2 imps on priv as they r in 2@d|pg||
nt|joest: this assumes that diamonds not led by the defense early|pg||
nt|joest: really?  thanks Al.   |pg||
pc|s2|nt|yuval10: Israel's next match is against Italy, very tough day for them, they've done great so far|pg||
nt|sybarra: but the 4/1 @H break is just pesky |pg||
nt|kiwibridge: so, remove the 2 slam swings and Iceland would have a narrow lead, that's how close it really is|pg||
nt|ady: and 1 heart|pg||
nt|kit: If declarer had 8 of spades, proper safety play would be first round finesse -- whether worth giving up the IMP for that I don't know.|pg||
pc|h6|nt|barnets: Israel have played well in round robin and this is their poorest set shown so far|pg||
nt|brolucius: He is not particularly worried about suffering a club ruff, because he needs to set up the suit anyway, and a ruff may be with a natural trump trick.|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: good stuf|pg||
nt|roswolf: well done|pg||
nt|rv: Italians will be kicking themselves after this segment, they took tough decisions well, 3 huge mistakes on fairly ordinary deals|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s6|nt|roswolf: but do they think on the right lines?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: curiously  if Bocchi led @SQ  promising King    Madala would have encoraged at trick 1|pg||
pc|s8|nt|brgpro: still need to guess @d|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Karen. Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for bringing this festival of bridge to our screens. ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Al and Jack for their company and perceptive comments. Also to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.might south ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: finesse the diamond?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: can't he play @SA first  |pg||
nt|rv: missing Vul game on deal 25 and 2 unnecessary penalties on deals 27 and 28|pg||
nt|rv: sry 28 and 29|pg||
pc|h4|nt|lml: he still has nine tricks though|pg||
nt|boedhy:  yes drijver will probably get a @h trick at the end|pg||
nt|leao:  hell have to time it carefully|pg||
nt|leao:  but miguel is a careful player :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm so sorry   thought Baldursson rebid 3@D|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|ady: 1 imps for Italy|pg||
nt|gracelin: good.  Shi also realized that he must take the club finesse to make.|pg||
pc|c5|nt|panosk: thinking if he can do anything about possible bad breaks but he cant so here you are|pg||
pc|cT|nt|lml: and that will be a push|pg||
nt|lml: heading to an uptrick |pg||
nt|ady: decided against   quuen could come down in 3|pg||
nt|roswolf: shortly the last bd  16|pg||
pc|d4|nt|lml: it appears|pg||
nt|oosmanb: not quite bath coup but he won 2 tricks when he deserved 1 in @S|pg||
nt|oosmanb: so should make 7 now|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes indeed|pg||
nt|gracelin: on H return, declarer shud ruff in hand and ruff to establish D|pg||
nt|roswolf: easy from here|pg||
nt|gracelin: and even if he ruffs in dummy, CK will be ruffed out so no problem either. |pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|bt: eschewing diamonds finesse was a thoughtful play|pg||
pc|h2|nt|skaftij:  On  12, Iceland is in 3NT|pg||
mc|11|nt|brolucius: I am always happy to add thanks to BBO, for letting us all enjoy these wonderful championships live, at no charge. Long may it last!|pg||
nt|bt: i got to use that word ...|pg||
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qx|o16|st||md|2SQ92HAT5DQT43CA95,S754HQ97432D8CK64,ST6HJ8DJ976CQT872,SAKJ83HK6DAK52CJ3|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 3@H = 6@H & 3@S w/5-7|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
nt|gavin:  for a scoreboard of all 6 semi-final matches, visit www.bridgewinners.com and if you click the flags you can read all about the players |pg||
nt|kit: This will make -- club ruff in dummy gives declarer 5 heart tricks, 1 club, 2 diamonds, 2 spades|pg||
nt|gavin:  quite likely that EW will end in 4@S in the other room|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|c5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg||
pc|d4|nt|gavin:  hurd-wooldridge stop in 3NT on board 15, adding 13 more to USA2|pg||
nt|gavin:  33 slam imps in 5 boards|pg||
pc|h3|nt|gavin:  43 imps lost by USA 1 in slams for the set|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|s3|pc|h5|pg||
mc|10|nt|gavin:  Though the first swing, board 3 couldnt really make game|pg||
nt|vugraphznu: bye all -- back in 1 hour with the last section of this match|pg||
nt|mildredb: :)|pg||
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qx|c16|st||md|2SQ92HAT5DQT43CA95,S754HQ97432D8CK64,ST6HJ8DJ976CQT872,SAKJ83HK6DAK52CJ3|sv|e|nt|athene: another 10-12 notrump for north|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: this is the last board of the set...|pg||
nt|athene: south has a pretty nice 12; he might just invite|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: N to the bathroom...|pg||
nt|athene: of course if west doubles a 2@H transfer that might alter things|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: next session will be at 16.45 hours..|pg||
nt|athene: but they play 2-way stayman over the mini notrump|pg||
nt|athene: and no transfers|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: N back |pg||
nt|lml: no big deal when you have nine tricks anyway|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Last board now // Hope you all enjoyed|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: last board now|pg||
nt|ady: final hand of the session    thx all    thx specs|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Einarsson decided quickly not to finesses @h, queen being more likely with South and ruff pending|pg||
nt|ady: last hand of te session    thx Victor   |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: this is the last board of the set|pg||
nt|yuval10: heading to the last board|pg||
nt|lml: nice result for north south ... lets see how Pachtman-Ginossar handle it|pg||
nt|panosk: that is our last board for this session|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: but it was two WELL DESERVED slam swings :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: not "just lucky ones"|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: and so the last, and Jan we owe you much for your great skills on vugraph @H|pg||
nt|oosmanb: and a fun hand to finish with|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: last board|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: thx a lot for watching...fantastic match|pg||
nt|bt: involving a baseball bat|pg||
nt|ritong: ...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: last board|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: incredibile ...but we will play all|pg||
nt|skaftij:  creating difficulties|pg||
nt|ahollan1: final board of the 1st session|pg||
nt|ahollan1: restart in 1 hour 25 minutes|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: last board |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: we will be back in exactly 1h|pg||
nt|brolucius: The time had come to thank our super VG operator, Traiain - who took the trouble to give us plenty of extra information from the table-side. Many thanks!|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Karen. Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for bringing this festival of bridge to our screens. ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentator David for his company and perceptive comments. Also to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Thx Geoffrey|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Karen. Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for bringing this festival of bridge to our screens. ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentator Patrick for his company and perceptive comments. Also to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
nt|gracelin: sorry, I relied to many messages and sometime overlooked the current hand situation.|pg||
nt|gracelin: replied|pg||
nt|mdgraham: last board - thanks to our operator Vincent - excellent job |pg||
nt|anton72: that one is flat already ..but by the way is verry interesting ...in match NED-USA1 they stay in board 9 from 40 minutes ...mean runing scores ...something unpredictible ...|pg||
nt|anton72: if Vincent can help us ....will be perfect |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Last board, next session will be the last one of the QF, this one will start in about 55 minutes (16:45 local time) Thank you all for joining us here and special thanks to the ...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: commentators! Well done|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that's a great result|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Vincent. Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for bringing this festival of bridge to our screens. ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Naresh, Jack, David and Johan for their company and perceptive comments. Also to our specs whose contributions keep us on our ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: toes.|pg||
nt|ady: last hand of a very interesting set|pg||
nt|nkgupt: thx all|pg||
nt|ady: thx Vincent    thx specs|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: this is the last board, thank you all for joining us here in Veldhoven. Next round will start in 1,5 hour. which is 13:45 local time.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: last board ...thx all for watching..thx Kit, Joey and Gyorgy for help|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: we will be back in 65 mins from now|pg||
nt|szalay: tempting 3N for finish|pg||
nt|szalay: wd u open North?|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Karen. Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for bringing this festival of bridge to our screens. ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Al and Jack for their company and perceptive comments. Also to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: seems weird to squeeze dummy like that|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Last board, we will be back tomorrow 10.30 local time|pg||
nt|ahollan1: final board of the session|pg||
nt|ahollan1: set 5 begins in 55 minutes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: final 16 boards of Semi-Final  begins in about 1 hour|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is last board for segment 5|pg||
nt|joest: so what had been a close match is broken open by USA2 scoring 34 imps in a row in five boards|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: final board of match at our table    3rd/final session of the day scheduled to begin in about 1 hour|pg||
nt|xenya: that's the end for NZ i'm afraid|pg||
nt|szalay: thx all|pg||
nt|ahollan1: final board of the match -- for this table|pg||
mb|p|nt|skaftij:  This is the last match today|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: director is here to watch time for the last board, but I don't think they will be punished because of the 10 min for the director call|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: probably both teams will make the last 8 and they deserve it|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: may hope is that Australia will make the last 8 as well :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: see previous explanation of 1@D|pg||
nt|skaftij:  seems South would have been better placed with a 2@h overcall|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Thanks to all the commentators and kibs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=10-15 HCP, 2+@D|pg||
nt|jillan:  any chance 40 imps + can ride on it :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: after this match there will be an appeal over a board of the previous set|pg||
mb|1S|nt|athene: now south has the choice of 2@S, weak takeout|pg||
nt|athene: or 2@C "weak stayman"|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: DBL = 4 or 5 @s|pg||
nt|ady: 4@H for e/w looks the spot|pg||
nt|panosk: next match will start in about an hour|pg||
nt|boedhy:  last board|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: yes all other matches finished|pg||
nt|runnerup: 500 here is good for Nz  but not enougth -ns has to guess well to make any game (3nt)|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Thanks Kevin, excellent operator|pg||
nt|brolucius: Many thanks also to Barnet and Kit, my fellow commentators, for their insights into the play.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Weinstein asking about the double|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: North asking about the 2c bid|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but good news is that appeal is moot|pg||
nt|jillan:  which one do you know|pg||
nt|meargent: if north opens they will probably get to 3nt|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C=11-15 HCP, 6+@C|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D relay|pg||
nt|brgpro: will play 3@c here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm  and www.bridgewinners.com  have running scores|pg||
mb|p|nt|skaftij:  Thank you all kibs for good comments, I was not able to bring all forwards |pg||
nt|ady: thx Harold  and specs|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: next match at 13.45 hours|pg||
nt|lml: somebody asked about whether the players know about the running score|pg||
nt|ady: 4@H a make n/s|pg||
nt|ahollan1: common treatment over Michaels showing Majors  is to use 2@H/@S to show stronger hands in @C/@D   and 3minor just competitive|pg||
nt|szalay: or: 3m: INV|pg||
nt|szalay: 2@H/2@S: either weaker OR stronger|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i haven't seen that treatment|pg||
nt|szalay: we call it COMB|pg||
nt|ady: thx Geoffrey  and Karen  and all specs  |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i still don't know what board it is about|pg||
mb|2S|nt|lml: 5@h is a decent save against 4@S|pg||
nt|athene: 1@S would be a general takeout without spades|pg||
nt|ehsana: 4S ..1 off seems coming up :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 1@s = 3@ss|pg||
nt|ritong: 1@s is excatly what he has|pg||
nt|skaftij:  thanks to our magnificent operator|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Bob|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Last hand of this match. Thanks to our operator Natalia and specs for watching some absorbing bridge.|pg||
nt|jaapfr: big win on last board expected for Swedes|pg||
nt|antoniz: dziwny splinter|pg||
nt|lechcold: dziwny|pg||
nt|jaapfr: although 5@D can then only 3 imps win|pg||
nt|lechcold: miejmy nadziejê, ¿e nie bêdzie nieporozumienia|pg||
nt|jaapfr: or 3nt|pg||
nt|antoniz: 3NT jest dobre|pg||
nt|lml: they dont but they can usually have a feel for how they are doing|pg||
nt|ahollan1: seems flawed in that it gives opponents extra space when cue can be weak|pg||
nt|ady: low heart lead    should hold declarer to 4 tricks if defence is awake|pg||
nt|brgpro: we end up with a quiet game here in @s|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1-suit, minimum|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 32 boards remain in the Semi Final|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: maybe if he bids 2@S now over 2red from his partner, that is invitational|pg||
nt|lml: 2NT... the 2 lowest suits|pg||
nt|ritong: garbage with 3@ss|pg||
nt|athene: so double isn't just exactly 4 spades, as in standard methods|pg||
nt|ady: got there quickly    nust know I would like a cup of tea|pg||
nt|ahollan1: vul 1@C includes weak NT as well as some strong hands|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: thx all for watching|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: this is the last board of the day, we restart at 10.30 tomorrow|pg||
nt|oosmanb: This is the fastest session I have ever seen on vugraph|pg||
nt|roswolf: a tricky bd to finish with|pg||
nt|gracelin: Thanjks Geoff and Karen.|pg||
nt|joest: I am told by MANY specs that WEinstein was in a position to make 6NT but went down. :)|pg||
mb|3D|nt|ady: thx Traian|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Thanks, last board for the day here|pg||
nt|skaftij:  3@c must show @d and @s|pg||
nt|wild card: Last board of this match. Next round will start at 13:45 local time (in somewhat more than an hour)|pg||
nt|wild card: is that correct Natalia?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: yes|pg||
nt|rnmalik: Think so.|pg||
nt|yuval10: answer is of course not|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Thanks everyone, and join us for the next segment|pg||
nt|xenya: 3N is only 400|pg||
nt|szalay: not true|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Thx Geoffrey and Patrick|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: We will be back in about 50 minutes, but I don't know which matches will be on|pg||
nt|roswolf: this has been a fascinating fight|pg||
nt|ady: destines for spade game|pg||
nt|rhelle: 3@c = unbalanced min|pg||
nt|brgpro: 3@c by W( min. 6 @c and no major) will end up the bidding|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: and if he does that north will go to game for sure with a maximum|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i wonder why East bid 4@H instead of 1@D transfer|pg||
nt|jaapfr: sorry in Polish dzien dobry|pg||
nt|ady: all games failing for e/w|pg||
nt|ady: 4@H the best     but fails|pg||
nt|ady: now at  the only making contract |pg||
nt|ady: west considering passing I would think|pg||
nt|sybarra: hate to rebid that ht suit, but really no choice|pg||
nt|leao:  4@h?|pg||
nt|boedhy:  dbl from south standard these days |pg||
nt|boedhy:  I think with all the light opening going on you should have more ...|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: Ruud was great company, but it is you the spectators who really make it for us, so thanks @H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: how did that PASS get in there?|pg||
nt|brgpro: there is Rob! |pg||
nt|brgpro: where were u?|pg||
nt|rhelle: quietly watching :) Your comments are much better than mine|pg||
nt|joest: that is about a 34 imp swing |pg||
mb|4S|nt|lml: a steal for Israel here|pg||
nt|skaftij:  tough to find the slam|pg||
nt|lechcold: dzienn dobry:)|pg||
nt|lechcold: dzien:)|pg||
nt|lml: in a match like this it isnt always as clear till you compare|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: East almost played @h3|pg||
nt|panosk: vugraph schedule in your own local times http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
nt|boedhy:  and there a daring 2nt from west... 3nt from east??|pg||
nt|boedhy:  @s lead........???|pg||
nt|sybarra: I dont play a neg. X quite that lite,     |pg||
nt|leao:  hungry 2NT|pg||
nt|ady: good save 5@D e/w|pg||
nt|ady: may take the push to 5@H|pg||
nt|runnerup: ok looks 9 on top |pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@D = long suit game try|pg||
mb|p|nt|lml: so who is to blame?|pg||
nt|ady: because I want my cup of tea|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: lol ...for sure|pg||
nt|ahollan1: even assuming weat holds weak NT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: weat???   that was supposed to be weSt|pg||
nt|ahollan1: on  13  Levin in 6@S East|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: wow..|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: that will be worth some imps to usa|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and that after Stefanov opened 3@C|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: south stil thinking ...do not go away|pg||
nt|ahollan1: from other room  "Eighteen minutes left, TD telling the players to be a bit quicker. Levin: "Good one when I'm in 6@S""|pg||
nt|ady: play of 6@S easier after £@C opening|pg||
nt|ady: 3@C|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: we will restart in 50 mins from now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Daily Bulletin always shows the lineup of vugraph matches for the day   http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Bulletins.asp?redirect=1&|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: please rejoin us for more wonderful matches from veldhoven|pg||
nt|lechcold: po tym wicie nie ma problemu z wygraniem 2@S|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: Drijver and Brink are a great pair and have had an excellent set here|pg||
nt|ady: Italians maybe showed majors on the same auction in west seat|pg||
nt|gracelin: defending 3D is best.|pg||
nt|szalay: 1N looks supersafety to me|pg||
nt|joest: YOu mathemeticians can now correct me|pg||
mb|p|nt|skaftij:  in OR, still playing no 30|pg||
nt|skaftij:  possible swing to Italy |pg||
nt|wild card: swift surrender by NS|pg||
nt|lechcold: 5@D ³atwo mo¿na po³o¿yæ|pg||
nt|ady: specs suggesting diamond lead  and 4@C is down   but  can still make|pg||
nt|xenya: classic reverse by N on 6-3 |pg||
nt|lml: well he has 7-3|pg||
nt|xenya: tes, 6+|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and a @d among the @hs|pg||
nt|xenya: could be just 6 i meant|pg||
nt|xenya: now S has a great hand for partner|pg||
nt|skaftij:  2B-2NT = trnsf; according to CC|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Levin pointed the finger to the 3s bid and then it gave it a finger down lool|pg||
nt|mdgraham: either the connection is broken or someone is going for a world-record think|pg||
nt|jbennet: he can now bid 3 sp (establishing game force).|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ending this roller coaster with a very boring hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|rnmalik: Could make 3NT, 6@D+1@C+2@S=9.|pg||
nt|leao:  it was a very agressive neg x, agree|pg||
nt|boedhy:  think I would lead the @d jack...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Brink only 7 HCP  but pure fit for partner's majors|pg||
nt|brgpro: what...|pg||
nt|ady: surprise choice|pg||
nt|brgpro: i take back what i said...|pg||
nt|jbennet: which was the normal bid. 3NT was a alfa male bid. |pg||
nt|brgpro: 3nT-1 it looks like|pg||
nt|bobholl: for me too :( @C K wrong :(|pg||
pc|c5|nt|lml: how do you allocate it?|pg||
nt|lml: we have "both|pg||
nt|lechcold: @CA - lavinthal pikowy i dalej wiadomo|pg||
nt|lml: Weinstein and Levin did well to get to the best slam|pg||
nt|oosmanb: 6@C is on with A@D right|pg||
nt|oosmanb: and 6NT for same reason|pg||
nt|oosmanb: 6@c additional chance of ruffing @S good|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, it's a good 6@C |pg||
nt|bt: one thing about sloppy play though, its difficult to get back to good bridge|pg||
nt|brolucius: They must play that 2@C promises a major. So, West is able to bid 3@S to show a weak hand and a spade fit.|pg||
nt|mdgraham: double must be a two-suiter by passed hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: what you wanted to know Anton?|pg||
nt|anton72: result|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: a link to the running scores?|pg||
nt|anton72: or whats happened |pg||
nt|anton72: no|pg||
nt|anton72: runing scores stay in board 9 from 40 minutes|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: ah i see now too, i dont know what happend...|pg||
nt|brgpro: will lead a trump|pg||
nt|brgpro: who wants to bet?|pg||
nt|rv: big thanks to excelllent Vugraph operator Dennis and wonderful co-commentators Jack, Al and all specs for patiently listening to us with insightful comments|pg||
nt|joest: 26 is the  |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: what a lead...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: another plus position for big club|pg||
pc|c6|nt|lechcold: a i bez tego nie ma jak tego graæ|pg||
nt|jaapfr: yes would be beauty @CA x@S @C for down 1|pg||
nt|lechcold: dziwne decyzje obu naszych graczy|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: nie sympatyzujê ze Splinterem z rêk¹ S....kompletnie nie sympatyzujê|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Jassem chyba pomylil sie w systemie|pg||
nt|antoniz: ja te¿ nie|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Martens zrozumial 3@s jako splinter @h|pg||
nt|lechcold: ale mecz przegramy:(|pg||
nt|kamyk: zamiast podsumowania: jak sie tak patrzy na BBO, to sporo widaæ...|pg||
nt|lechcold: by³o kilka naprawdê bardzo ciekawych rozdañ|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: jutro przekazy z meczu Polaków o 13.30 i 16:45 - tak jak dzisiaj zapraszam z ca³ej si³y...mo¿e wreszcie zobaczymy prawdziwych polskich husarzy|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: o 13.45 :)|pg||
nt|antoniz: do us³uszenia jutro,dobrej nocy:)|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: o 13:45 dziêkujê Nataly...pewnie nei wiecie ¿e opeartorem jest nasza dziewczyna - Natalia Bana od pewnego czasu mieszkaj¹ca w Holandii|pg||
nt|kamyk: powiem za Wañkowiczem: Dziekujê Uprzejmie, Przybêdê Akuratnie:)|pg||
nt|yuval10: makes this and it finished 40:36 and 16:14 for Israel|pg||
nt|odysseus69: looks like 1 down but lets see|pg||
nt|ady: difficult to guage|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @C lead @C ruff doesn't gain anything|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed you can be too macho|pg||
nt|brgpro: not me!|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: sorry, played too fast|pg||
nt|ahollan1: too difficult to find the 50% slam after 2@H raise|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|ritong: the light overcall drives to the wrong lead, seems|pg||
nt|ritong: or not|pg||
nt|skaftij:  I don't know what 4@c meant, maybe finding best denomination|pg||
nt|ady: what but 1 club and 2 spades   assume Zack will ruff high a 2nd diamond?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: ok now|pg||
nt|odysseus69: thot he might play on hearts which fails|pg||
nt|ady: took the save non vul against vul|pg||
nt|ahollan1: natural trump trick|pg||
nt|szalay: Aof@s, @hs|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS got one wrong|pg||
nt|nkgupt: so the first set team orrange doing remarkably well ...extending their lead from 2 to 20|pg||
nt|joest: this is a devastating lead|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|lml: and Lindop|pg||
nt|sybarra: think I might also |pg||
nt|boedhy:  dont think he would have led that against 3nt...|pg||
nt|leao:  and that was the 8th trick|pg||
nt|pbundy: hard to decipher the wasted values and lack of fit|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: this pair is showing a really good bridge|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and  Wooldridge lead gets him honorable mention in daily bulletin??|pg||
nt|joest: 12 more away just like that|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|lml: and Baxter|pg||
nt|lml: votes each way|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: jeli to tak mia³o byæ, to jednak nie bêdê wkuwa³ systemu M-J:)|pg||
nt|lml: I think North might have tried 6@D here|pg||
nt|panosk: our thanks to our very able operator Pim, great job indeed|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: AFR Points: A=3, K=2 and Q=1|pg||
nt|oosmanb: dont need A@D onside for 6@C like I said, @S can be ruffed good with K@H entry. 4@S 6@C 2@H|pg||
nt|oosmanb: but 6NT does need it so 6@C better|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: S has shown 5-3-3-2 and 5 AFR points with the 3nt bid|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: I havent seen an explanation of the 4@d bid|pg||
nt|xenya: let's see how well their relay system will work here|pg||
nt|skaftij:  This might be a pickup to Iceland|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: saved by e|pg||
nt|skaftij:  N temted|pg||
nt|skaftij:  tempted|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: north in the tank|pg||
nt|skaftij:  in OR, @d King was led|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: probably a double will come after|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: stil thinking|pg||
nt|skaftij:  @s Ace aganst 4 @h here, if bid would make declarer task more difficult|pg||
nt|ady: this could be a swing for Italy   4@S making|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: for you to bet|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: next time I bet first:)|pg||
nt|joest: there was a price paid for bidding 3@d|pg||
pc|h6|nt|lml: yes the 2NT bid was a killer|pg||
nt|lml: I think west is more to blame myself|pg||
nt|lml: I wonder what they would have played the double of 2NT|pg||
nt|yuval10: so USA1 will preserve 10 imps over the last board, still 16:14 Israel|pg||
nt|lml: he didnt cuebid over 3@H|pg||
nt|ady: in fact can make setting up spades    just 2 sspade losers|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: last board of this match - and tomorrow the Round Robin continues|pg||
nt|skaftij:  nope|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: and passes|pg||
nt|anton72: ok ...TY Vincent |pg||
nt|meargent: i wouldnt open that north hand |pg||
nt|ahollan1: earlier hand mentioned semi-constructive raises of 1M-2M|pg||
nt|joest: searching for the perfecto slam has cost a game quite likely|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but as passsed hand Stansby would use Drury for that hand|pg||
nt|joest: probably true Al|pg||
pc|h5|nt|vugraphznv: thank you to Panos|pg||
nt|panosk: not as good as 4@S but it ll make|pg||
nt|panosk: thank you Pim|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: good victory the Netherlands|pg||
nt|skaftij:  420 + 140?|pg||
nt|skaftij:  11 imps|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: it will be close to a draw|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: both teams happy i would say|pg||
nt|garden2005: atak atutowy dawa³ jakie nadziej?|pg||
nt|antoniz: kara zlokalizowane|pg||
nt|kamyk: pora na po¿egnania - do lepszych czasów (tylko w naszym bryd¿u, to one ju¿ zdaje siê by³y) |pg||
nt|ryskiel_: dziêkujê kolegom za ten ciê¿ki tydzieñ, mo¿e jeszcze seniorzy dadz¹ nam okazjê |pg||
nt|ryskiel_: dziêkujê wszystkim kibicom, |pg||
nt|jbennet: if p over 3sp had insisted on 3NT, then south could pass.|pg||
nt|rv: thanks to Tez for chipping in with comments as well|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now 13 tricks  so boring but 1 imp|pg||
nt|brgpro: will make 12 here too for a push. |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: still lose the @dK?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry  my eyes blurring|pg||
nt|rv: we watched plenty of drama here|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|psyck:  Running Scores: http://www.wkbridge2011.nl/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|kiwibridge: next round in 1 hour approx|pg||
nt|xenya: i don't think most of us understand this auction|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: A=3point, K=2points Q=1point|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: the 4@s bid showed 2K and 1Q |pg||
nt|garden2005: bez pracy nie ma Karolu ko³aczy... tak jest od wieków |pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 11-58 is in Vips?|pg||
nt|ady: maybe not after this hand|pg||
nt|brgpro: why Brink chose to X rather than a bit heavy 1@s...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: netherlands still +3 over italy|pg||
nt|joest: USA2 will close out winning about 46 imps in just the matter of a few minutes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right  34 in last 5  and now this|pg||
pc|d8|nt|vugraphznv: 4@C fit for at least 1 with good hand |pg||
nt|skaftij:  Jonsson had the chance to defeat, just missed|pg||
nt|skaftij:  bd 30 OR|pg||
nt|ady: good start from north    thats kept it to down 2|pg||
nt|brgpro: will go down 3 here|pg||
nt|meargent: but hard to argue with those that do compared to what is opened these days|pg||
nt|meargent: 5 controls 2 and half quick tricks|pg||
nt|szalay: I wd open as weak NT, but wd pass if strong NT|pg||
nt|jbennet: club lead was perhaps best after all.|pg||
pc|d6|nt|lml: he really has a pretty good playing strength hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: still 6 matches left for the teams to qualify for the quarterfinals|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: top 8 will advance|pg||
nt|ady: I thin might have done better playing diamonds   forcing dummys trumps  to try and nulify the spade suit|pg||
nt|ady: difficult to beat this now|pg||
nt|ady: diamond led would have been better for defence|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Running scores in the Bermuda Bowl:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|skaftij:  running scores|pg||
nt|skaftij:  http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Microsite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?redirect=1&qtournid=881|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: dziêkujê Natalli Bana - przynajmniej ona zdoby³a dla nas zloty medal jako operator:)|pg||
nt|antoniz: dziêki za cierpliwoæ, drodzy komentatorzy. Smutne te Mistrzostwa.Niech seniorzy nam je os³odz¹:)|pg||
nt|gracelin: with 6 unavoidable losers, likely -2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 12  and  didn't notice @HQ was missing|pg||
pc|dA|nt|roswolf: bye for now|pg||
nt|roswolf: thx all|pg||
nt|gracelin: What a set !, China recovered 50 imps against ITALY to take the lead.|pg||
nt|gracelin: tks all and bye|pg||
nt|roswolf: sets up the match nicely|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Bocchi and Madala didn't look worried yet when they saw the score...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Closing down now, see you later|pg||
nt|jbennet: D followed by 3 sp=" I have good hand with spades which is too strong for an overcall"|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|ritong: same goes for comments.please calm down.|pg||
nt|runnerup: yes i can see 11 in notrumps -true but 500 will win some imps -|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: 25-4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: trump leads beat 4@H|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 3@h was a real pressure bid over the nebulous 1@d|pg||
nt|ady: 11 tricks in spades|pg||
nt|meargent: so  would i|pg||
nt|brgpro: but the @C will be discarded first|pg||
pc|d5|nt|lml: if you play 3@S is not forcing maybe you could but that is hard|pg||
nt|ryskiel_: na Ciebie Karopl zawsze mogê liczyæ:) |pg||
nt|ady: so another imp for Italy|pg||
pc|d4|nt|harmon: .|pg||
nt|kamyk: operator by³ nasz¹ siln¹ stron¹ - dziekujemy|pg||
nt|lechcold: vugraf nienaganny:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 14.15.16 all good vps to have :)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: both teams need to be steady tomorrow|pg||
nt|ady: Sememta hoping for another slip up to come to 6 tricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or that @DK offside |pg||
pc|s4|nt|harmon: Baxter has clear 3h bid competition in spades|pg||
nt|harmon: 3s is forcing|pg||
nt|boedhy:  but there you see even another disadvantage for the double...|pg||
nt|garden2005: dziêkujê równie¿ za wspólne kibicowanie :) do zobaczenia|pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: Dobrze, ¿e nie zrobili nadróbki...|pg||
nt|kamyk: dziekujê - do nastepnego razu|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: dziekuje i do zobaczenia |pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: NiestetyA: tak, jak to ocenilem: graja rednio, a czasem ... az przykro patrzeæ!|pg||
nt|jkmjanusz: Do zobaczenia!|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: expect 9 tricks only|pg||
nt|xenya: Match A Open Room will be kept open to announce the quarterfinal pairings|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Brink-Drijver have been very solid  and when speeding, haven't been caught|pg||
nt|brolucius: Indonesia South (Venice Cup) bid 4@S on the South cards.|pg||
nt|brgpro: on the 4th @s, so 12|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|athene: versace plays the @DQ to make it look as though he has nothing in diamonds in hand|pg||
nt|lml: so a pickup for the usa|pg||
nt|ady: but I dont thinks so|pg||
nt|ahollan1: indeed it was   full credit to Nystrom|pg||
pc|h2|nt|athene: still, Bocchi-Madala should wander into this game without much trouble|pg||
nt|lechcold: mecz skoñczy siê 16:14 dla nas|pg||
nt|lechcold: wynik chyba lepszy niz gra|pg||
nt|lechcold: i jak na historiê naszych potyczek ze Szwedami  -ca³kiem niez³y|pg||
nt|leao:  hell take his 8 tricks and run|pg||
nt|sybarra: do we have link to scores/standings?|pg||
nt|xenya: well done indeed|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Grazie a tutti|pg||
nt|skaftij:  A lot of missed opportunities by Iceland. But the match is far from over yet, still 80 boards to go|pg||
nt|roswolf: nor do i|pg||
nt|ady: has shown too much  |pg||
nt|ady: so 37 imps for Italy half way|pg||
nt|brgpro: -1 but still a loss of 3 imps|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hK|nt|ady: safety play in hearts   make sure not to lose finesse to stiff king|pg||
nt|ady: thx all|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: bye all|pg||
nt|ady: bye|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: back in 45 min|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: if squeeze could be 10 or 11|pg||
nt|runnerup: yes -Sweden got that 500 -i see -ok -well done there|pg||
nt|roswolf: still a close match|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: thank you all, goodbye|pg||
nt|roswolf: bye for now|pg||
nt|nkgupt: for me a ssimple 1@s|pg||
nt|ady: I expect 12 back to Italy|pg||
nt|roswolf: for me too|pg||
nt|brgpro: surprised 11 imps on the last hand|pg||
nt|bobholl: i am sure :(|pg||
nt|brgpro: yes, 12|pg||
nt|ady: thx all|pg||
nt|brgpro: thanks en bedankt|pg||
nt|jbennet: that however 3sp would start a coopeation. Whereas a unilateral decision will express his dominance in the flock.|pg||
nt|jbennet: so the 3NT did indeed confirmed his alfa male status.|pg||
nt|jbennet: to the prize of -10-11 IMP:s|pg||
pc|cA|nt|brolucius: A singleton trump is an unusual lead against a 4-4 fit, so declarer can often make deductions about the unsuitable leads that the defender holds in the other three suits.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: North thinking|pg||
nt|meargent: i am sure that hurd in OR will open it |pg||
nt|jbennet: (prevented west from playing low if a club was led from dummy).|pg||
nt|brgpro: i woulda lead a trump for sure...|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes nicely set up for tomorrow|pg||
nt|rv: bye all, see you soon, do come back in 45 mins for exciting 5th segment|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: thru 25   Italy leads China by 26|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that match was close for a long time  and with China ahead or a good chunk|pg||
nt|brgpro: good night and see u tomorrow. thanks guys|pg||
nt|roswolf: bye all|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Board 9 corrected|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Bye all|pg||
pc|c2|nt|jaapfr: 40-36=16-14 for Poland|pg||
nt|sybarra: http://www.wkbridge2011.com/en/live/scorebord-bermuda-bowl|pg||
nt|oosmanb: Ty Anders and Vladimir|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: thx for watching all, cu tomorrow at 10.30|pg||
nt|oosmanb: and ofcourse Jan|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: bye all -- back here from Veldhoven in 1hour 24 minutes|pg||
nt|xenya: thanks Oosman -- and Jan -- and Anders|pg||
nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg||
nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg||
nt|ahollan1: restart  1 hour 20 minutes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we'll have different matches in session 2|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Iceland has never lost a BB final  |pg||
nt|ahollan1: better to say they've won all finals they've played?|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Yes, that is what I intended to say|pg||
nt|skaftij:  BD 14 will be a 6 imp pickup for Iceland|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Tarzan playing 2 NT|pg||
nt|skaftij:  God is neither Italian nor Dutch. May the best team win|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Sweden leads USA2  by 22|pg||
nt|ahollan1: USA1 over Israel by 7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Italy over China by only 34|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so our match biggest difference    go figure|pg||
nt|skaftij:  The carryover comes from NL victory over Iceland|pg||
nt|skaftij:  The argument being that it is the encounter between 2 teams in the end |pg||
nt|skaftij:  that should decide|pg||
nt|skaftij:  Is the a carryover in SF and final as well?|pg||
nt|brgpro: see you|pg||
nt|ahollan1: running scores at  http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Veldhoven.11/Results.htm  or  www.bridgewinners.com|pg||
pc|hT|nt|athene: thanks all|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: thanks all see you back in 1 1 /2 hour ca.|pg||
nt|ritong: now he can determine that north has singleton @s|pg||
nt|lml: 10 Imps I think|pg||
nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg||
nt|ady: needs low heart|pg||
nt|ady: cant see why Shi blocked the spade suit|pg||
pc|h3|nt|udo: but with @c 3-3 , no need to find @S queen|pg||
nt|ritong: with 5@h presumably, 4@ds and 3 @cs if he tests the suit, what he certainly will do|pg||
nt|athene: yes, after he cashes the clubs, the spade guess won't present a problem|pg||
nt|lechcold: B-N zagrali poprawnie na drugim stole|pg||
nt|lechcold: tutaj posz³o ze 30 impów:(|pg||
nt|ady: small win for Israel|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: thanks all bye|pg||
nt|ady: thx all|pg||
nt|ady: bye|pg||
nt|odysseus69: so Israel emerge with narrow victory- thx all - I had a lot of help from kibitzers and I needed it badly|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: tx Victor...|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Bye for now / next match in just under 1 hour|pg||
nt|lml: nice|pg||
nt|lml: match bye|pg||
pc|sT|nt|rnmalik: Thanks all. CU.|pg||
nt|wild card: thx|pg||
nt|jaapfr vg: no he will never finesse the clubs:)|pg||
nt|runnerup: ok -lycka till sweden ok bye for now-tx |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: bye all thx for watching|pg||
nt|ady: ok |pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|panosk: also thx to fellow commentator CK |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: bye all|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dT|nt|boedhy:  which was the only lead to let this contract make|pg||
pc|s5|nt|ritong: but right, the @c break makes this academic|pg||
nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg||
nt|ady: thx all    bye|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|antoniz: do us³yszenia o 16,45:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: do zobaczenia|pg||
nt|lechcold: zapraszamy na pojedynek z gronym  Joe Grue:)|pg||
pc|s7|nt|vugraphznv: players thanking each other for the good match|pg||
nt|pbundy: four comparisons to come in now|pg||
nt|pbundy: thanks all - very exciting match!|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if USA1 and USA2 both win   they meet in the SemiFinals as part of Conditions of Contest|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: i hear the appeal will be about the QJ doubleton lead|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: USA 2 can only lose 8 imps in the appeal, as they now won 13 imps, but it can be ruled to a +5 imps score|pg||
nt|ahollan1: venice cup  USA1 vs Netherlands   4 boards to score   Netherlands +17|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: the semi finals will start tomorrow morning at 10:30 local time (same time as every day)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: but tonight we will also broadcast the first 2 rounds of the Transnationals!!!|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: they start at 20:30 local time |pg||
nt|ahollan1: but now that the sun is out  some of us will be asleep|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: in 1 hour 45 minutes that is|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: we broadcast rounds 1 and 2, both 10 boards|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: tomorrow we will only broadcast the Semi finals, so no Transnationals on BBO|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: but when the Transnationals reach the quarter finals we will broadcast those matches as well|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: it looks as though USA 1 and USA 2 will go through to the semi-finals. Israel did not play the final set, so USA 1 is through|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: USA 1 and USA 2 have to play each other in the semi finals|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: so the Netherlands will face Italy in the other semi finals|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: that is, if Italy wins|pg||
pc|s6|nt|vugraphznv: See you all tomorrow |pg||
nt|vugraphznv: Have a nice day|pg||
nt|ady: thx all bye|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  thanks all!|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: bye from Veldhoven for now|pg||
nt|skaftij:  This exciting match is coming to an end. Thanks to our wonderful operator, Traian :-), kibs for very enlighened comments and of course all the people that have made this show possible|pg||
nt|xenya: bye|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks for joining us Jack!|pg||
mc|9|nt|lechcold: znienacka by³o le¿enie, ale znów jest swoje:)|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: bye all|pg||
nt|brolucius: Eaxtly the same auction at the other table (unusual) and the contract went one down there.|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: thx a lot for watching|pg||
nt|brolucius: Thanks for watching!|pg||
nt|rv: so far all sessions have been very close and nothing to separate to these fine teams|pg||
nt|joest: thanks all|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: ty all!|pg||
nt|joest: when does next set start?|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: will see you soon!|pg||
nt|vugraphznv: 16.45 local time|pg||
nt|ahollan1: final session starts in 50 minutes|pg||
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