vg|2011 USSBC USA2 QF A,Segment 3 of 4,I,31,45,Milner,62,Kasle,86|
rs|3NE-1,5DW-1,2SW=,3SW-2,1NN+1,1NN-1,1SE+1,1NE=,4SW+1,4HE+1,1SW+1,1SW+1,2HW=,2SE+2,2HW-3,2HE-3,4HS+1,4HS+1,4SS-1,3SS+1,3DW=,2DW+1,4HE-1,4HE-1,3NW-2,3NW-2,4HWx-1,4HWx-1,1HE=,2NE-1|
pn|SMITH,SCHERMER,MOHAN,CHAMBERS,Boyd,Lev,Robinson,Eisenberg|pg||
qx|o31|st||md|1S9HAJ876D4CAQJT83,SA65HKQ43DKQJ82C5,SQJ873H52D965C974,SKT42HT9DAT73CK62|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|3C|nt|fabsayc: no game for either side|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|paulhac:  A good comepetitive hand to start|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: 3nt|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: down 1, and i dont see much chance of an error|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|paulhac:  E/W hVE THE POINTS BUT NOT THE TRICKS|pg||
nt|jbennet: south is given a passivity warning. |pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|jbennet: but 3 clubs the limit.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h4|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h8|pc|d8|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d7|pc|h6|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|s3|pc|d3|pc|h7|pg||
nt|paulhac:  still not hopeless from Eastspoint of view IF south had a spade honour|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s8|nt|jbennet: 5 d though close to making. |pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c31|st||md|1S9HAJ876D4CAQJT83,SA65HKQ43DKQJ82C5,SQJ873H52D965C974,SKT42HT9DAT73CK62|sv|n|nt|Walddk1: Hello Jo Anne and Raija|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|peachy: Good afternoon everybody|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk1: North has an   -n    at the end, operator. Bjerkan|pg||
nt|casenjo:  hi welcome back|pg||
mb|d|nt|peachy: If you'd like to watch both tables (or multiple tables) simultaneously, click http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or,   http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
mb|2C|nt|peachy: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=34&Itemid=352  Results top left.  Click "Teams entered", then click player's name to get System Summary for any pair.|pg||
mb|3C|nt|casenjo:  Nice bid by Janice Seamon-Molson|pg||
nt|peachy: Bjerkan-Pollack play Precision so 1S limited to 15|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|nt|casenjo:  Bjerkan must shif to the Ace of @H to beat this the max|pg||
nt|peachy: South was not tempted to bid on, understandably|pg||
pc|h9|nt|santyclz: Hi folks.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|santyclz: @d lead would have been inspired.|pg||
pc|hK|nt|casenjo:  It appears Rosenberg will go -300 against 450 in the other rom|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|d7|pc|c8|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h3|pc|c7|pc|dT|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|s4|pc|cJ|pc|sA|mc|10|pg||
qx|o32|st||md|2SK5HAQ63DQ3CK9654,SQJ632HJ7DK62CAJ7,ST74H82DAT94CQT83,SA98HKT954DJ875C2|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|paulhac:  Another competitive hand|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h3|nt|paulhac:  Difficult for N/S to find their club fit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this defense wont be good enough|pg||
pc|d2|pc|s7|pc|h9|pg||
nt|paulhac:  Board 31 was flat although in a different contract 5@D|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: upside down att but std count for n/s|pg||
nt|jbennet: another passivity on  low levels (most of the times it costs partscore-swings  this might be an exception)|pg||
nt|jbennet: south called for a club|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: mohan fingers cards|pg||
pc|dA|nt|paulhac:  4@S looked like a biddable contract|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
nt|jbennet: 4 sp way too high|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: i hate limit raise with east hand|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c2|nt|paulhac:  Agreed but could have been right|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|jbennet: and as mentioned passivity on low levels costs around 3-4 IMP:s in average per hand (but this time the price was 6)|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|s8|pc|c4|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s3|mc|8|pg||
qx|c32|st||md|2SK5HAQ63DQ3CK9654,SQJ632HJ7DK62CAJ7,ST74H82DAT94CQT83,SA98HKT954DJ875C2|sv|e|nt|casenjo:  Cheri Bjerkan did not find the maximum defense and failed to get her heart ruff for 500 and a good start for Joel|pg||
nt|Walddk7: Welcome to Tez and Al|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|santyclz: The hand was played by n in the other room which gave an overtrick on the @h opening lead.|pg||
nt|tez: hi all:)|pg||
mb|2S|nt|santyclz: For those new to BBO:  Hover your mouse over the other room score to show a pop-up of the bidding there.|pg||
nt|peachy: Both sides can take ten tricks, looks like, now Bjerkan in the hot seat|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|santyclz: Even many modern players would pass e's hand.|pg||
mb|2N|an|!|nt|tez: 2nt choise minor|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|chessmaste: Not everyone likes to overcall 1@D with a natural 2@D - sometimes East really has diamonds.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|peachy: since the @S fnesse is on, if it is taken, 11 tricks|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: e/w are playing precision|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|santyclz: Hi Mark, Walter.|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@D is best played as natural over nebulous @D|pg||
nt|chessmaste: Even in Precision they are allowe to have diamonds|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: when you're looking at 6, the chances fall dramatically :)|pg||
nt|tez: i like Eisenberg bid|pg||
nt|Walddk7: Welcome to Rich Reisig|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2N not specifically for minors -- just scramble with 2 suits to play|pg||
nt|reisig: hiya gang :)|pg||
pc|c8|nt|tez: no need agressive with 3 trump|pg||
nt|tez: hi Rich:)|pg||
pc|c2|nt|chessmaste: In any event N/S should go plus for a useful pickup|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|chessmaste: It will be sometime before declarer scores a trick|pg||
nt|santyclz: Or even plays to one.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|nt|Walddk7: Welcome to Sergey Kustarov|pg||
nt|dinos1: hello everyone|pg||
nt|tez: privet:)|pg||
nt|dinos1: :)|pg||
nt|reisig: Hiya Sergey :)|pg||
nt|dinos1: Richie :)|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|reisig: This looks like -1 ...or 2|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|hK|nt|casenjo:  cannot blame for doubling this auction|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg||
nt|dinos1: neither side can open @d suit|pg||
nt|tez: dummy killed|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|s9|pg||
nt|chessmaste: Defending 2@D doubled would have been more fun for everyone|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h6|nt|santyclz: Not for Woolsey.|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|nt|dinos1: and dcl will be obliged do it|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c3|pc|d7|pc|c9|nt|reisig: The cards could have been placed better|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|tez: nice defended|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|h5|pc|sK|pg||
nt|dinos1: yes, perfect|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o33|st||md|3SA7HAT753DKJ3C985,SKJ54HQ842DA86C43,ST863H6DQ542CKQJ2,SQ92HKJ9DT97CAT76|sv|o|nt|jbennet: a limit raise with 3 trumps only have costed hugely over time and will continue to do so.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: well the defense could have done better, probably beat 2@S, so was not strictly passivity|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|paulhac:  Another battle of the part scores|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: not forc by passed hand, can hear them!|pg||
mb|p|pc|c6|nt|paulhac:  Difficult to find a major suit lead|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not the winning lead|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: :)|pg||
nt|jbennet: 3 c support with a singelton is hugely overrated.  many makes limit raises with those hands (only to find p raising to 4 going 1-3 off)|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s2|pc|h3|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|nt|fabsayc: had schermer held up diamond ace defense still had a chance|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h5|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c33|st||md|3SA7HAT753DKJ3C985,SKJ54HQ842DA86C43,ST863H6DQ542CKQJ2,SQ92HKJ9DT97CAT76|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|chessmaste: The defenders lost their way in the other room|pg||
nt|casenjo:  both 6 hearts and 6@C make; do you want to be there off an Ace and the King of @C|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|tez: 1 nt all pass|pg||
nt|reisig: Clearly|pg||
nt|dinos1: NS play flannery?|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz: To see how a board was played at the other table, click "Movie", then "(other) Room", |pg||
nt|santyclz: then highlight the board you wish to review by clicking on it and click the "Next" button to step though the play.|pg||
nt|tez: boyd and robinson playing 2@d 5@h 4@s i hope|pg||
mb|p|pc|c6|nt|santyclz: Hmmm, this doesn't look like their best possible contract...|pg||
nt|chessmaste: Passing now would not be absurd|pg||
nt|peachy: Maybe if desperate, but I dont think EW desperate at this point|pg||
nt|peachy: 4C looks natural, but I don't know if it is|pg||
nt|reisig: I bet against a @s lead|pg||
pc|c9|nt|dinos1: W didnt overcall 1@s so ...|pg||
pc|c4|nt|santyclz: That makes the pass by s more reasonable.|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|reisig: Sam????   :)|pg||
pc|c5|nt|chessmaste: 2NT - I'll let you off the hook because I'm vulnerable |pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|nt|peachy: Play will present no real problem, even though trumps are 4-0|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|dinos1: so no @s lead))|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|s4|nt|casenjo:  no one got excited on this hand, 4@H is the contract in the other room|pg||
pc|s3|nt|tez: again perfecet defence|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sA|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s6|nt|peachy: If you'd like to watch both tables (or multiple tables) simultaneously, click http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or,   http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|peachy: Open a bew window for each table|pg||
nt|peachy: new*|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|dinos1: wonder dcl played @d to J and not to K|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg||
nt|chessmaste: He may as well cash out for one down. I was hoping they would play 2@D doubled - an interesting contract|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|reisig: -50|pg||
mc|6|nt|santyclz: Not playing 2@dx'd seems to be the theme of this session.|pg||
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qx|o34|st||md|4SQ7HK85DKT74C8643,S842HT973DJ6CAJT5,SKT96HQ64D852CKQ9,SAJ53HAJ2DAQ93C72|sv|n|nt|jbennet: on board 32 south did indeed take action over 2 sp.|pg||
nt|jbennet: in the other room.|pg||
mb|1D|nt|jbennet: earing himself well deserved +7|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: ? r they weak nt?|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|fabsayc: maybe variable|pg||
nt|paulhac:  Are E/W playing a weak NT?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: i dunno|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbennet: my guess is that east decided against 1 NT opening.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: if so, he'd rebid 1nt|pg||
nt|paulhac:  I am told 1NT shows 17-20|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: wow|pg||
nt|jbennet: another passivity.|pg||
nt|jbennet: selling out to 1 spade.|pg||
pc|c4|nt|fabsayc: that is misinformation|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|jbennet: "didnt want to go for 500" is the standard phrase when explaining the double  part-score swing.|pg||
nt|paulhac:  the bidding now makes sense (for those who play that system!)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: mine is, sorry, p i'm just a girl :)|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
nt|paulhac:  Johan do you think Ron should have protected?|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|s8|pc|d8|pg||
nt|jbennet: 1NT when 1 sp is passed out.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: where'd all these tricks come from|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|dK|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|s5|mc|8|pg||
qx|c34|st||md|4SQ7HK85DKT74C8643,S842HT973DJ6CAJT5,SKT96HQ64D852CKQ9,SAJ53HAJ2DAQ93C72|sv|n|nt|dinos1: @d to K - ducked - set @c - took shift with A and play @d to Q|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|santyclz: 4333 11 count, barely worth a limit raise.|pg||
nt|peachy: Invite, force, or go to game choices|pg||
nt|reisig: Nice - fast auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|chessmaste: 3@D - Bergen raise probably |pg||
pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg||
nt|chessmaste: They led a club against 4@S, but North never got a ruff|pg||
nt|santyclz: In spite of the open room result, 3@s seems normal to me with qj- aceless hand.|pg||
nt|peachy: Considering vullnerability, I liked Pollack's choice|pg||
nt|peachy: tricky lead! Escellent, put decclarer on a guess right now, though she actually has no choice |pg||
nt|reisig: An "attutude" 6 lead|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s7|nt|peachy: but to play K|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg||
nt|tez: do you lead attitude against nt.everytime?|pg||
nt|reisig: Me?   Yes|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: They said they lead 4th or 2nd.|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
nt|tez: i lead attitude if i want another shift|pg||
nt|tez: and my partner:)|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|h2|pg||
nt|reisig: +90|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o35|st||md|1S54H8532DQ7CJT942,SAKQT82H74DKJ84CK,S73HJT6DAT53CA875,SJ96HAKQ9D962CQ63|sv|e|nt|paulhac:  First genuine game of the set|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|Vugraphzfj: semi-forcing|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|paulhac:  Even if they get to the 5 levek because of the heart position they do not need the diamond guess|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: must be forcing :)|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|paulhac:  2@S looks a conservative bid|pg||
nt|jbennet: so again passivity yealded -110 instead of a probable +90.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dA|mc|11|nt|Vugraphzfj: i say that too|pg||
nt|paulhac:  Makes life easy|pg||
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qx|c35|st||md|1S54H8532DQ7CJT942,SAKQT82H74DKJ84CK,S73HJT6DAT53CA875,SJ96HAKQ9D962CQ63|sv|e|nt|reisig: This hand doesn't need us :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|casenjo:  In the other room North declared board 20, so East was able to lead a heart thru for down 1|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|peachy: Last hand was played from N in the other table so 2 H, 1 D and 1 S to lose|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|casenjo:  It is often important to have the big hand on lead, this is one reason for the transfer bids over takeout doubles becoming popular|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: cue with @s as trumps|pg||
mb|p|nt|tez: are we sure 4@h is cue?|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|scotty: See Lev-Eisenberg auction here?|pg||
pc|cK|nt|dinos1: after jump to 3@s?)|pg||
nt|reisig: well ...sorry|pg||
pc|cA|nt|tez: they are lucky..np|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|reisig: Billy is a tad upset ...I know this|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
nt|peachy: This will have to drift one off|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|h4|pg||
nt|tez: if you have x qjt98xxx jtxx x  what do you bid to 4@h? |pg||
nt|dinos1: 4@h :)|pg||
nt|dinos1: not as spl)|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o36|st||md|2SA94HKQ84D87CA652,SQT872HT7DKQ54CT7,SK3H652DAT962CJ94,SJ65HAJ93DJ3CKQ83|sv|b|nt|jbennet: did they really play 4h at the other room?|pg||
nt|paulhac:  Back to the part scores|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|jbennet: so enter when its cheap.|pg||
nt|jbennet: 1 h .|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbennet: and now south will ponder for a while and then sell out|pg||
nt|jbennet: "i didnt want to go for 500"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: no thought really|pg||
pc|h2|nt|Vugraphzfj: i hate low from 3 little, heard a joke...which should i lead?  another suit! :)|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg||
nt|jbennet: in 5-10 years everybody will either X on souths hand meaning "I was also about to open 1 club" or enter the bidding with 1 h|pg||
pc|d8|nt|fabsayc: they already do in Poland over the Polish club|pg||
pc|d4|nt|paulhac:  Everybody:)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg||
pc|h5|nt|paulhac:  Many may double called the Italian double but I can think of few who would bid 1@H unless green|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: west thinks|pg||
nt|paulhac:  Good hand for pure 3rds and 5ths|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: west plays with his tricks|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: how much time for a 1-level|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|d6|pc|sJ|nt|fabsayc: spade return would have been better|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: yeah|pg||
nt|paulhac:  ON board 35 they did play 4@H!|pg||
nt|fabsayc: mind you mohan does not know the spade position|pg||
pc|c5|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|s7|mc|8|pg||
qx|c36|st||md|2SA94HKQ84D87CA652,SQT872HT7DKQ54CT7,SK3H652DAT962CJ94,SJ65HAJ93DJ3CKQ83|sv|b|nt|tez: ok you have 6 card @h|pg||
nt|reisig: 4@h never to play|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|casenjo:  one suiter|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|peachy: EW play variable NT's, this eat and vulnerability it is 14-16|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|peachy: *seat|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Good evening to Bill Frisby|pg||
nt|reisig: not easy for Boyd|pg||
nt|tez: 1 nt ok for me|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: hi good evening everyone|pg||
nt|peachy: Hello Bill, good to have you here|pg||
nt|reisig: X gets @d involved...ugh|pg||
pc|h2|nt|reisig: This is an easy play problem|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|reisig: We need more contracts in 4-2 fits ...juice things up a bit|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s8|nt|athene: i would be wanting to double 2@H for takeout with east if it's likely to end the auction|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Thanks.|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cJ|nt|reisig: Seems like 110|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c6|pc|s7|pc|c9|mc|8|pg||
qx|o37|st||md|3SA4HJ72DAQ62CAQ82,ST875HA9854DJ7CK5,SJ96HT6DT8543CJ43,SKQ32HKQ3DK9CT976|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1N|nt|Vugraphzfj: 2c or 2d for majors?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: pass can work better|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: too long for pass :)|pg||
mb|2H|nt|fabsayc: or double although he does not have the values for that|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|nt|jbennet: another passivity|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hQ|nt|paulhac:  Surely you do not believe North should have bid 3@D Johan?|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|d8|pg||
nt|jbennet: and the "didnt want to concede 500"  will again be the standard phrase when explaining to team mates the part-score swing.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: west thinks|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h8|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s2|pc|d6|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dA|nt|fabsayc: undfo|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c37|st||md|3SA4HJ72DAQ62CAQ82,ST875HA9854DJ7CK5,SJ96HT6DT8543CJ43,SKQ32HKQ3DK9CT976|sv|n|nt|athene: 2@H pass or correct i imagine|pg||
nt|athene: you have to treat these bids as natural for the purposes of doubling|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|athene: maybe it's more important at MP for EW to get into their spade fit|pg||
nt|athene: but still could easily have been a double partscore swing rather than just 3 imps|pg||
mb|1N|nt|reisig:  X get interesting|pg||
mb|2C|an|!|nt|tez: 2@c majors|pg||
nt|tez: 2@d asks longer major|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|santyclz: 5332, vul -- 1@h seems enough.|pg||
mb|p|nt|chessmaste: 2@D looks like a Multi|pg||
nt|chessmaste: Not one I would commend|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yep  2@D = weak major in ALL seats|pg||
mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|nt|chessmaste: Well, they are a level lower - sometimes that is worth a point ot two|pg||
nt|santyclz: Fortunately s eschewed the "automatic" bump to 3 with 3 card support.|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s7|nt|peachy: S must not touch hearts to set this, as we can see Dbl dummy|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c9|nt|reisig: Hand a a bit easier|pg||
nt|reisig: Making many|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|c8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg||
nt|tez: @c ruff|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hA|nt|dinos1: now, with @h3-2|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o38|st||md|4SJ963HQ8DK964CA75,SKT82HDA73CT98643,SAQ5HKT96DJT85CK2,S74HAJ75432DQ2CQJ|sv|e|mb|2D!|nt|Vugraphzfj: fancy 2d!!!!!!!!!!!!!!|pg||
nt|paulhac:  Can N/S bid their game here?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: that's called multi i believe, even tho i don't play in nationals|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H!|nt|fabsayc: can they even enter bidding is a better question|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: j shows the jack|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: ty, so easy to miss pass|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|h2|pc|d6|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|c3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|c4|pc|h9|pg||
nt|paulhac:  Both E/W opened a wek 2 with a seven card suit. Consevatism pays|pg||
mc|5|pg||
qx|c38|st||md|4SJ963HQ8DK964CA75,SKT82HDA73CT98643,SAQ5HKT96DJT85CK2,S74HAJ75432DQ2CQJ|sv|e|mb|2H|nt|reisig: 2@h may slow West a bit|pg||
mb|p|nt|santyclz: Another weak 2 that not everybody would make.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does it help you judge the range of the bid?   :)|pg||
nt|santyclz: Although in the open room Jacobus made the same bid.|pg||
mb|p|nt|chessmaste: Your suit is poor, you have four cards in the other major and a first round control - that looks like three flaws. Most players will accept two, but three is perhaps too many|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: DBL = penalty|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: diplomats would say   non-optimal at this level|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg||
nt|santyclz: Please, be precise:  sub-optimal.|pg||
nt|athene: should be a boring 3nt +1|pg||
nt|peachy: A common way to play this type of hand is that 2D is forcing, 2H is not|pg||
nt|reisig: Not pretty ...but normal|pg||
nt|dinos1: @d|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|peachy: but matter of agreements|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hang on    grabbing my thesaurus    |pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|athene: EW play 1@C - 2@D is 5@S4@H weakish|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|nt|athene: so it's fine for 2@H to be forcing - responder is never stuck|pg||
pc|h2|pc|d6|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|nt|peachy: Good striucture|pg||
nt|reisig: Put dummy back in the pocket|pg||
pc|c3|pc|h6|pg||
mc|5|pg||
qx|o39|st||md|1SJ83HKQJT52DAC962,SAK4H843DKJT7CT83,SQ95HA9DQ93CAK754,ST762H76D86542CQJ|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: tough call|pg||
mb|3H|nt|jbennet: this is a test of methods.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: sheldon kirsch likes it|pg||
nt|fabsayc: why is this tough in 2/1|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|paulhac:  Playing 2 over 1 no problem|pg||
nt|jbennet: as it happenes 4h also makes. 3 NT though iron-clad.|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: std carding|pg||
nt|paulhac:  A very low scoring sector|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: west thinks, changes position, east has a lady kibitzer|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: i feel action coming|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|mc|11|nt|Vugraphzfj: ron claimed on the squeeze|pg||
nt|fabsayc: only 620 i think|pg||
nt|fabsayc: oh right|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: squueezzzeeee|pg||
pg||
qx|c39|st||md|1SJ83HKQJT52DAC962,SAK4H843DKJT7CT83,SQ95HA9DQ93CAK754,ST762H76D86542CQJ|sv|b|nt|santyclz: Time to call for a smoke break, even if you don't smoke...|pg||
nt|athene: not only do you tire them out but you can also watch how they discard and maybe learn something useful for future hands|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: other rooms visible via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3rd/4th seat  1N=15-17|pg||
nt|athene: i.e. sometimes you might learn that one opponent tends to falsecard more than the other, or something like that |pg||
nt|reisig: A calm 4@h|pg||
mb|2C|an|!|mb|p|nt|athene: of course i am sure all these players know each other's styles quite well anyway|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 2@C=Puppet Stayman|pg||
nt|athene: strong club|pg||
nt|peachy: 1C = Precision 16+|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: in the bad old days, a strong 4-4-41 had to start by giving a negative|pg||
nt|athene: then people realised that was silly and it was better to just use some high-level response to show it|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|dinos1: 3? what's your bid?|pg||
nt|tez: 4@h|pg||
nt|reisig: show shortness|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Robinson and Eisenberg doing a good deal of talking and joking with each other.|pg||
nt|tez: solid @h minimum hand|pg||
mb|3H|nt|peachy: Do you know if 3C shows specific singl|pg||
nt|athene: now all the defence know about declarer's hand is it wants to play 3nt facing 1-4-4-4; so it probably won't have four hearts and it probably will have fairly robust spades, but ...|pg||
nt|athene: other than that...|pg||
nt|peachy: looks that way|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: ah, ok, 3@C was 1-4-4-4 or 4-4-4-1|pg||
nt|dinos1: @dA? Not shortness|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|peachy: I call for commentator coffee break :)|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
nt|dinos1: sqz for 11|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|dinos1: W controls both minors|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
nt|chessmaste: You would expect East to play a spade now |pg||
pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|hK|nt|chessmaste: Now declarer does best to play low - well done|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|c4|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|d5|pg||
nt|tez: he is enjoiying now:)|pg||
pc|hT|pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|dinos1: @sQ|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c8|pc|d3|pc|s7|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o40|st||md|2SAKT872HJ732DK3C4,S9HAT9DQJ862C7652,S643HK54DT95CAJT3,SQJ5HQ86DA74CKQ98|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: ron claimed 5 as soon as second spade was led|pg||
nt|paulhac:  Needs to get the spades right to make it which is unlikely|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: it's black...|pg||
pc|c7|nt|jbennet: 4 sp looks too high.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dK|nt|jbennet: as a contract too much required.|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|nt|paulhac:  It would make on a good day with spades 2-2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d9|mc|9|nt|jbennet: yes d ace right + spades for no losers + heart suit only 2 losers. |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: 40 percent for 2-2, i always have those :)|pg||
nt|jbennet: but NS probably have too wide range for 2 spade-bid.|pg||
pg||
qx|c40|st||md|2SAKT872HJ732DK3C4,S9HAT9DQJ862C7652,S643HK54DT95CAJT3,SQJ5HQ86DA74CKQ98|sv|o|nt|santyclz: We seem to be back.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yes, lost power needed extension cord to reach plug|pg||
nt|santyclz: This looks like a @s partscore.  If w gets too active though it could be "interesting".|pg||
nt|santyclz: To support our theme, it appears to be another good hand on which not to play 2@dx'd.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|dinos1: @c shift at trick 2 wd ruin the sqz|pg||
mb|1S|nt|reisig: Part score in @ss here?|pg||
mb|2S|mb|d|nt|santyclz: A good hand to go quietly.|pg||
mb|2N|nt|dinos1: what is X of 2@s? Fit?|pg||
nt|reisig: Clearly - not for a lead :)|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|reisig: 3@s  ...end|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|athene: normal enough to leave this in with a 4-3-3-3|pg||
nt|dinos1: I prefer it as @c+@h|pg||
nt|tez: and just made:)|pg||
pc|d5|nt|athene: partner should be fairly balanced as she could have bid another suit if she wanted|pg||
nt|athene: if she had bid only 2nt rather than 3nt then there is not the same guarantee, in standard methods|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pg||
nt|reisig: He ducked?|pg||
nt|tez: he didnt hope pd has 6 card @d|pg||
nt|reisig: :)|pg||
nt|reisig: brb|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sA|pc|d8|mc|10|nt|athene: declarer's problem is that if she tries a diamond and guesses wrong, north can cash the clubs and south can signal for a diamond on the fourth|pg||
pg||
qx|o41|st||md|3SK95HQJ87DK75C982,S42HKDQJ863CAQJ54,SJ87HAT92DT94CK76,SAQT63H6543DA2CT3|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: they made 4 in other room|pg||
nt|paulhac:  When you are behind in the match sometimes you push on these hands, especially after the last 8 boards|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|paulhac:  So far there has not been much for us to get excited about|pg||
mb|3D|nt|Vugraphzfj: discussion about style and 2h bid focus|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|nt|jbennet: can be beaten but only if heart is led and continued. (or spade lead with loosing finesse and heart switch|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he is passed hand so all natural and non forcing|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: ty|pg||
nt|paulhac:  East was a passed hand so could afford the 2@H bid|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: ah|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|h3|mc|11|nt|Vugraphzfj: made 3|pg||
pg||
qx|c41|st||md|3SK95HQJ87DK75C982,S42HKDQJ863CAQJ54,SJ87HAT92DT94CK76,SAQT63H6543DA2CT3|sv|e|nt|athene: she will be a bit unhappy to find out that she couldn't have got the diamond guess wrong|pg||
nt|casenjo:  nicely played|pg||
nt|athene: she wanted north to have @DAQ|pg||
nt|athene: but i think with @DAQ north would have been able to let a diamond or two go earlier|pg||
nt|tez: boyd played with open cards:)wd|pg||
nt|dinos1: wasnt fin unsafe?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1st/2nd non-vul  1N=10-12|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not for the squeemish|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: when she clings fanatically to four diamonds that suggests she just has 109xx - she would pitch one from the queen and two from the ace, probably|pg||
nt|athene: if she started with four|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Janice should love her hand on this auction|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|athene: "6-5, come alive" or something|pg||
nt|peachy: NS do have paying sacrifice and S likely tries for it|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|chessmaste: I wonder if East's pass has any meaning?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if Bates DBL = was good hand   Stewart RDBL = some 1-suiter|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: and that is the route he took|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C forced  2@D to play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: pass would have ended the auction  and looks like race to 7 tricks|pg||
nt|chessmaste: He did well to follow that route - on this deal|pg||
mb|2D|nt|athene: interesting false preference there|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: i guess north decides that south is most likely exactly 6-5|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: with hearts two cards longer than clubs she would surely bid 4NT over 4@S|pg||
mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|dinos1: more or less flat hands so far|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: if it goes 1N-DBL-end   what do you lead from West?|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h4|nt|athene: if east has @CA10xx there is nothing you can do because she is going to duck if you lead the queen|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|athene: (or the jack)|pg||
pc|dT|pc|c3|pc|d7|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o42|st||md|4SJT7432H5DAT2CQ74,S95HA974DK864CA83,SQ6HK86DJ95CK9652,SAK8HQJT32DQ73CJT|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: must be big bergen|pg||
nt|paulhac:  Good game here but unlucky to go down|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: all laugh|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
pc|hT|pc|s3|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h2|pc|s4|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: hard to see, mohan can't see either|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg||
nt|paulhac:  Its not just a heart finesse still might make it with Ax@D so over 50%|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|hJ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|h9|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d3|nt|jbennet: lucky for north that east didnt have Jxx in clubs. |pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c42|st||md|4SJT7432H5DAT2CQ74,S95HA974DK864CA83,SQ6HK86DJ95CK9652,SAK8HQJT32DQ73CJT|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|tez: do you bid 1@s?|pg||
nt|reisig: may avoid game|pg||
nt|tez: or 2@s or pass|pg||
nt|reisig: NO!|pg||
nt|dinos1: not me|pg||
nt|dinos1: 2@s maybe|pg||
nt|reisig: 2@s vul?  ..nah|pg||
nt|tez: i would bid 1@s|pg||
nt|reisig: Billy will bid 3@h|pg||
mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: 2@C=10-15 HCP, 6+@C    2@D=relay  |pg||
nt|santyclz: Whew, I was afraid 2@c would end the auction.|pg||
nt|reisig: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@S = 6@C 5@S|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: oops  i forgot they flip-flop response of 3@S & 3N|pg||
nt|athene: if north had treated her hand as 5-5 in the minors, rather than a t/o double, then maybe south would have found another 5@C bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: so 3N = 6+@C & 5@S   [3@S would show solid @C]|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: other room the auction went 1@s 3@s 6@s, with a double by west in between|pg||
nt|ritong: the flop was not ok for this all in move|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: south had better overtake the next heart and stick a diamond back|pg||
nt|peachy: S does not know of massive spadefit, can anticipate maybe 1 spade loser|pg||
nt|peachy: did not know during bidding|pg||
nt|reisig: I would bid 3@h|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: i wonder how close Stewart was to opening Strong 1@C|pg||
nt|tez: me too|pg||
pc|c3|nt|chessmaste: Man overboard!|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: seems to me 5@S says   oops  i should have opened 1@C|pg||
nt|dinos1: I wd cue 4@c over 3@d|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|reisig: Well ..4@h is a reasonable spot|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|athene: north should lead the jack second time|pg||
nt|athene: make it a bit easier for partner to overtake|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|athene: now the diamond loser goes on the long heart|pg||
pc|h5|nt|reisig: Probable push|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Lost the play.  Results in a moment.|pg||
nt|reisig: -100 ...for sure|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o43|st||md|1SKJ85H9DAQ7654CKT,SQ96HAKQ6DK32CQJ6,ST4HJ8753DJTC9743,SA732HT42D98CA852|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|jbennet: now e-w will get too high.|pg||
nt|paulhac:  All sorts of contracts possible|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: lighting strange here, wish me luck|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbennet: but if north masterminds the lead. |pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|nt|jbennet: then 9 tricks.|pg||
pc|d4|nt|paulhac:  No play on the @D lead|pg||
nt|jbennet: North did not mastermind. |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: we are overlooking water, just beautiful|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i am not even sure can make 7 tricks unless he guesses clubs|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|jbennet: o yes he will make 7 no more no less.|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|h7|pc|s2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h4|nt|Vugraphzfj: std remaining present count :)|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|s5|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: declarer giving up, ron is smelling blood|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c3|mc|7|pg||
qx|c43|st||md|1SKJ85H9DAQ7654CKT,SQ96HAKQ6DK32CQJ6,ST4HJ8753DJTC9743,SA732HT42D98CA852|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: always good to go down 2 when you're in 5   makes partner think 4 wasn't making|pg||
nt|athene: hard to believe this got passed out|pg||
nt|athene: everyone has a bid! :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Back from our break now.|pg||
nt|athene: welcome back :)|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=2+|pg||
nt|peachy: Precision 2@C|pg||
nt|reisig: 3NT won't do well|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|athene: 2@S non-forcing but constructive for most precision-club-style pairs|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: DBL = takeout    big surprise, right|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ok  BOTH   DBL were takeout|pg||
nt|peachy: 2@S forcing 1 round|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: i wonder what difference would be for Wold   2@D vs RDBL|pg||
nt|athene: ah right ok|pg||
nt|athene: well clearly 3@H shows a good hand anyway|pg||
nt|peachy: aah, maybe not|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|athene: 4@S now|pg||
nt|peachy: well, card says it is F|pg||
nt|athene: trump lead, diamond back, trump?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: EW keep bidding @D    scary stuff|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: easy for us :)|pg||
nt|athene: so often you feel you probably ought to lead a trump but you decide to lay down just ONE top honour first to see dummy|pg||
nt|athene: and what you see is, yes, ya shouldda led that trump|pg||
nt|peachy: Garozzo's rule: Freely paraphrased:  You must have a good reason not to lead trump|pg||
nt|athene: the auction does suggest north might be ruffing diamonds|pg||
nt|athene: so i think a trump lead is not impossible to find|pg||
nt|athene: west might be a bit scared that if she leads trumps declarer might get the clubs going, but partner's job is to hold a nice big club card|pg||
nt|peachy: In this auction, N could be 5-4 though|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Long discussion with Rosenburg and N-S as to the meaning of N bids.|pg||
nt|athene: i am sure 2@C promises six|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: no-one plays it as 5+ any more|pg||
nt|athene: well, ok, some do, but not many|pg||
nt|peachy: I dont know their styule exactly but 5-4 is possible in addition to 6-3 and 6-4|pg||
nt|peachy: the way many play|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: It was described as 6-4 or cue.|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|ritong: 660 other room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kit's 3@D ruled out that contract|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|nt|peachy: ok, I am behind the times then, no surprise there|pg||
nt|peachy: Thx Kathy|pg||
nt|athene: most strong club pairs these days give up a bit of definition on the 1@D opener in order to have 2@C promise six cards|pg||
nt|athene: so with e.g. 4M225@C they are opening 1@D|pg||
nt|athene: (or 1nt of course, hahaha)|pg||
nt|peachy: Perhaps some judgment allowed with a very sparkly club suit of 5 cards, I would assume|pg||
nt|athene: yes, @CAKQJ10 might decide that isn't a 1@D opener :)|pg||
nt|athene: not sure clubs can be sparkly though, can they?|pg||
nt|athene: only diamonds|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d9|nt|reisig: Sam plays all hands in game/slam|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|nt|peachy: :)|pg||
pc|s4|nt|athene: diamond ruff high, trump, the end|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|s5|pg||
nt|athene: @C5 hoping for a trump promo, but not today|pg||
nt|reisig: 31 IMPs is not the end of the world|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|peachy: Another demonstration of how big spots are useful|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|s8|pg||
nt|reisig: Likely 2N (or 3N) other table|pg||
nt|dinos1: either 1N or 3N)|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
nt|reisig: East must try|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o44|st||md|2ST862H7DAQJ64CJ43,SAQHAQ963DKT753CK,SJ53HKJ5D8CAQT872,SK974HT842D92C965|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|d|nt|jbennet: 2 cl - (2h) - X - (4h) - p-p (X) perhaps.|pg||
nt|paulhac:  Another good game which should bite the dust|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|4C|nt|fabsayc: might double this|pg||
mb|4H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: finally action|pg||
nt|fabsayc: does down 1 for a push qualify as action|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|paulhac:  Or maybe another flat board:)|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|d5|pg||
mc|9|nt|fabsayc: last board now, thanks to our operator Mary|pg||
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qx|c44|st||md|2ST862H7DAQJ64CJ43,SAQHAQ963DKT753CK,SJ53HKJ5D8CAQT872,SK974HT842D92C965|sv|n|nt|peachy: QJ109xx a different animal than QJxxxx|pg||
nt|athene: Molson will not be too hopeful - if declarer's trumps were susceptible to a trump promotion she would probably not ruff the diamond with the king|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Short break.|pg||
nt|jpes: need help|pg||
mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|3H|nt|athene: would prefer to ruff low, lead king, and if that is allowed to hold, come to hand with heart ruff|pg||
nt|reisig: 3@h here?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Yes|pg||
nt|reisig: Hard to avoid 4@c|pg||
nt|jpes: a player with sporting blood|pg||
mb|d|an|!|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal  17+ bal|pg||
mb|4H|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = non-force  denies 4@H/@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: you sorta want to show both majors with that south hand|pg||
nt|reisig: 4@h -- not best|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: normally if you are going to compete with a modest 44 majors you bid 1@S intending 2@H next|pg||
nt|athene: but south didn't really want to do that because she wants the heart lead|pg||
nt|athene: so if she started with 1@S and opps went into a fast 3nt or something, she would not feel so good|pg||
nt|peachy: Yes, this hand exception, also a consideration if partner reads you for 5S 4H|pg||
pc|d8|nt|tez: i wold bid 4@h.you?|pg||
nt|dinos1: i'dt bid|pg||
pc|d2|nt|athene: the problem is now she has to bid 2@S|pg||
nt|tez: would|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: i wonder how auction will go in other room    1@C[nat]-1@H//??   1N??|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|ritong: was not here at that time|pg||
nt|athene: but she feels ok, if partner didn't raise my hearts she should have four spades|pg||
nt|tez: if parner has !q of @d enuf:)|pg||
nt|reisig: 5-5 .w 4+ fit ...yes|pg||
nt|jpes: absolutely and the dummy would annoy me|pg||
nt|tez: dummy has very bad for me|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|nt|athene: it all comes down to how much the doubler needs just to make a "courtesy" raise|pg||
nt|athene: in the old days you needed a really big hand but the requirements are dropping steadily|pg||
pc|cA|nt|athene: people prefer to just raise on anything if they have 4-card support|pg||
nt|athene: quite right too :) gotta get in there|pg||
nt|peachy: In competition (over the Dbl) even sttricter pdships allow raise with less if pure sort of hand|pg||
nt|athene: if north has a 17 count with 4 hearts she can surely redouble first or cue or something|pg||
nt|athene: i don't think 2@H over the double of 1@H should show the world|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|dinos1: even then only -1|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|nt|athene: but anyway....the end result is that south has had to go a level higher than necessary|pg||
pc|c4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|h5|nt|athene: hearts often get pushed to the 3-level by troublesome spade competition - but it's a little embarrassing when it's you who supplied the competition|pg||
pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: 3 boards missing from the movie - so dont believe this running total|pg||
nt|santyclz: A good start for declarer but it doesn't seem to be enough.|pg||
nt|ritong: reducing his trump losers to two would be good already|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in USA1 Final   Schwartz off to quick lead over Lynch  48-17   but that is a 90 board match|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ours is a 60 board match|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in Women's final  [96 board match]   Sprung 43  Moss 24 |pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|ritong: wow|pg||
nt|ahollan1: really?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: please Please tell us how|pg||
nt|reisig: 100 off|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|h6|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|nt|athene: maybe south should have doubled 2@C|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o45|st||md|3SKT5HK96D983CKQ32,SQJ94HA74DKQT4C97,S732HJ32DAJ75CT64,SA86HQT85D62CAJ85|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: applying rubber bridge rules where we dont play 1 bids, this match barely happened|pg||
nt|paulhac:  Needed to stop low with all the cards lying badly|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg||
nt|paulhac:  Good night all bedtime in England:)|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg||
nt|fabsayc: thanks also to Paul and johann for their insights :)|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|h5|pc|d9|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s9|mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfj: they crowdded me...made 1|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: break now, back 820|pg||
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qx|c45|st||md|3SKT5HK96D983CKQ32,SQJ94HA74DKQT4C97,S732HJ32DAJ75CT64,SA86HQT85D62CAJ85|sv|b|nt|reisig: Last of the set|pg||
nt|reisig: Might play at 1 level|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal or 18+ bal  [since 1N=15-17 in 3rd/4th]|pg||
mb|2C|nt|jpes: never|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: E apparently on route to show 3-card limit raise|pg||
mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: 1N=game force  9 to  non-opener|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H natural AND ask  support/controls|pg||
nt|athene: she will just bid game now|pg||
nt|peachy: 2S changed the picture|pg||
nt|athene: if you bid 1nt intending to show a 3-card limit raise and partner rebids the major you generally just bid game|pg||
nt|athene: the more thin games you play the more you appreciate that nice ninth trump|pg||
nt|athene: not sure quite what 4@C is all about|pg||
nt|athene: maybe it's actually a 4@S bid :)|pg||
nt|athene: 4@C is alerted and explained as "i can't find my 4@S bid, but this will do, in a poor light"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Long conversation about the 4C, but I couldn't read.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|athene: ok a spectator suggests east might have thought west rebid 3@S|pg||
nt|reisig: 2@s ...end|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|athene: in which case 4@C would be a reasonable control bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: undo pls|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C at least @HQxx or @Hxxxx  0-2 controls  [A=2 K=1]|pg||
nt|santyclz: The next session is supposed to start in about 6 minutes, it may be delayed slightly.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@H undoubled :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: operator won't be able to lead from correct hand|pg||
nt|santyclz: Vg in your timezone: http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php  Make it your home page!|pg||
mb|2N|nt|athene: or maybe west DID rebid 3@S! :)|pg||
nt|dinos1: 2N :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: someday software will allow  insert pass instead of all undo|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: but i don't think so|pg||
nt|peachy: Kathy alerted 4C after the fact, surely then the bid was 4C|pg||
nt|athene: yes, i think east seeing 2@S as 3@S is the most likely explanation|pg||
nt|dinos1: all suits were bid, what to lead? :)|pg||
nt|dinos1: @d9?|pg||
nt|tez: nt:)|pg||
pc|d9|nt|tez: duck @d|pg||
nt|reisig: Might beat this|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|dinos1: good passive lead|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pg||
nt|peachy: Kathy, our vugraph operator, that is :)|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
nt|athene: i thought they put bids on a tray though? in which case she would see it right the second time around|pg||
pc|s8|nt|santyclz: I doubt that's a high priority item on the release changes plan.|pg||
nt|ritong: mm|pg||
nt|ahollan1: all changes for vugraph  are way low on list|pg||
nt|jpes: strong opening lead by boyd|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|nt|athene: and might decide it was time to back off quickly so why bother to redouble?|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|athene: oh well, no harm done|pg||
pc|d8|nt|ahollan1: will only happen when/if ported to flash version|pg||
nt|dinos1: @d here - @c there ...|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c6|nt|reisig: Billy ...knows..what's going on|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg||
nt|reisig: And ain't happy|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|c8|pg||
nt|peachy: Before I forget:   End of segment after Board 32.  Thanks to our hardworking operator Kathy Newman, to USBF/Jan Martel for  bringing this event to BBO, to co-commentators William ...|pg||
nt|peachy: Frisby/England and Jo Anne Casen/USA for their time and expertise, and finally to kibitzers, who are the sole reason of all shows. Hope you enjoyed!|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h8|pc|sT|pc|dT|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|nt|santyclz: Thanks all, bye for now.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c3|mc|7|nt|dinos1: -2|pg||
nt|tez: ty all:)|pg||
nt|reisig: Nice try|pg||
nt|tez: enjoyed|pg||
nt|dinos1: thx all :)|pg||
nt|reisig: Come back|pg||
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