vg|2011 USSBC USA2 QF,Segment 4 of 4,I,46,60,Milner,69,Kasle,105|
rs|4HN+1,4SN+2,3NS=,3NS=,5DW+1,6DW-1,6SN=,6SS=,4HS-2,2DN-1,3NN-3,3NN+1,2SW=,2DE=,3NEx-2,3NE-2,4SS-2,5HW+1,2SS=,3NW-2,4HW+1,4HW+1,2HS+1,3DS=,3NW-3,3NW-3,2HE+2,2HE+2,4SS=,4SN=|
pn|SMITH,SCHERMER,MOHAN,CHAMBERS,Boyd,Lev,Robinson,Eisenberg|pg||
qx|o46|st||md|4SJ2HKJ2DQ9CAKQJ93,SK7HQ76DAJ8642C85,SAQT865HAT854D7C6,S943H93DKT53CT742|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|3C!|mb|3D|nt|Vugraphzfj: must be good.bad 2nt, so 3c is good hand|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: north, who has held boring cards, now excited|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: Hi, I'm Mary Smith, hope we have a commentator|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: north sighs|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|h4|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c46|st||md|4SJ2HKJ2DQ9CAKQJ93,SK7HQ76DAJ8642C85,SAQT865HAT854D7C6,S943H93DKT53CT742|sv|o|nt|Walddk1: Hello Jo Anne and Raija|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|peachy: Good afternoon everybody|pg||
mb|2D|nt|Walddk1: North has an   -n    at the end, operator. Bjerkan|pg||
nt|casenjo:  hi welcome back|pg||
nt|sybarra2: hello all and welcome|pg||
mb|3S|an|!|nt|peachy: If you'd like to watch both tables (or multiple tables) simultaneously, click http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or,   http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
mb|4D|nt|peachy: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=34&Itemid=352  Results top left.  Click "Teams entered", then click player's name to get System Summary for any pair.|pg||
mb|4S|nt|casenjo:  Nice bid by Janice Seamon-Molson|pg||
nt|peachy: Bjerkan-Pollack play Precision so 1S limited to 15|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|sybarra2: this falls nicely for declarer |pg||
pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg||
nt|sybarra2: re @H|pg||
pc|d3|nt|casenjo:  Bjerkan must shif to the Ace of @H to beat this the max|pg||
nt|peachy: South was not tempted to bid on, understandably|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|santyclz: Hi folks.|pg||
pc|dA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c6|nt|santyclz: @d lead would have been inspired.|pg||
pc|c2|nt|casenjo:  It appears Rosenberg will go -300 against 450 in the other rom|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
nt|sybarra2: in fact it flops too well |pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o47|st||md|1SKQTHAKQDQTCAK843,S8763HT95DAJ62CT6,SAJ4H7632D9743C92,S952HJ84DK85CQJ75|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfj: i want ron's hand|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: ron says he showed 22-23|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: first time i can hear the talk|pg||
pc|s8|nt|jbennet: best odds on spade lead|pg||
nt|jbennet: duck a club at trick 2.|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|d6|pc|h2|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s6|mc|9|pg||
qx|c47|st||md|1SKQTHAKQDQTCAK843,S8763HT95DAJ62CT6,SAJ4H7632D9743C92,S952HJ84DK85CQJ75|sv|n|nt|casenjo:  Cheri Bjerkan did not find the maximum defense and failed to get her heart ruff for 500 and a good start for Joel|pg||
nt|Walddk7: Welcome to Tez and Al|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|santyclz: The hand was played by n in the other room which gave an overtrick on the @h opening lead.|pg||
nt|tez: hi all:)|pg||
mb|2H|an|!|nt|santyclz: For those new to BBO:  Hover your mouse over the other room score to show a pop-up of the bidding there.|pg||
nt|peachy: Both sides can take ten tricks, looks like, now Bjerkan in the hot seat|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|santyclz: Even many modern players would pass e's hand.|pg||
mb|p|nt|tez: 2nt choise minor|pg||
mb|3C|an|!|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|chessmaste: Not everyone likes to overcall 1@D with a natural 2@D - sometimes East really has diamonds.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|peachy: since the @S fnesse is on, if it is taken, 11 tricks|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: e/w are playing precision|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|santyclz: Hi Mark, Walter.|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@D is best played as natural over nebulous @D|pg||
nt|chessmaste: Even in Precision they are allowe to have diamonds|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: when you're looking at 6, the chances fall dramatically :)|pg||
nt|tez: i like Eisenberg bid|pg||
nt|Walddk7: Welcome to Rich Reisig|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2N not specifically for minors -- just scramble with 2 suits to play|pg||
nt|reisig: hiya gang :)|pg||
pc|s7|nt|tez: no need agressive with 3 trump|pg||
nt|tez: hi Rich:)|pg||
nt|sybarra2: can find 9  tricks because the hts break |pg||
nt|sybarra2: but will be very scary to declarer if found at all|pg||
nt|sybarra2: ducking a club, and hope for no @D shift another option |pg||
pc|sJ|nt|chessmaste: In any event N/S should go plus for a useful pickup|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c2|nt|chessmaste: It will be sometime before declarer scores a trick|pg||
nt|santyclz: Or even plays to one.|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|nt|Walddk7: Welcome to Sergey Kustarov|pg||
nt|dinos1: hello everyone|pg||
nt|tez: privet:)|pg||
nt|dinos1: :)|pg||
nt|reisig: Hiya Sergey :)|pg||
nt|dinos1: Richie :)|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|reisig: This looks like -1 ...or 2|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg||
nt|sybarra2: puppet auction,  |pg||
nt|sybarra2: @D stop actually there |pg||
nt|sybarra2: but declarer has to be nervous neverthe less |pg||
pc|cA|nt|casenjo:  cannot blame for doubling this auction|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg||
nt|dinos1: neither side can open @d suit|pg||
nt|tez: dummy killed|pg||
pc|cK|pc|d6|nt|sybarra2: ok plan B |pg||
pc|h2|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|chessmaste: Defending 2@D doubled would have been more fun for everyone|pg||
pc|c4|pc|h5|nt|santyclz: Not for Woolsey.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|nt|dinos1: and dcl will be obliged do it|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
nt|sybarra2: and making 3  |pg||
mc|9|nt|sybarra2: commentator claim |pg||
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qx|o48|st||md|2SAQ63HT3DT42CQ863,SK94H52DAQJ98765C,ST875HQ986DKCKJT2,SJ2HAKJ74D3CA9754|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfj: slight delay, ok now :)|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: real slow 3h|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: west thinks|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: can he resist?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|s9|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dK|pg||
mc|12|nt|Vugraphzfj: says if there down 1|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: big swing|pg||
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qx|c48|st||md|2SAQ63HT3DT42CQ863,SK94H52DAQJ98765C,ST875HQ986DKCKJT2,SJ2HAKJ74D3CA9754|sv|e|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|nt|chessmaste: The defenders lost their way in the other room|pg||
nt|casenjo:  both 6 hearts and 6@C make; do you want to be there off an Ace and the King of @C|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|tez: 1 nt all pass|pg||
nt|reisig: Clearly|pg||
nt|dinos1: NS play flannery?|pg||
pc|cT|nt|santyclz: To see how a board was played at the other table, click "Movie", then "(other) Room", |pg||
nt|santyclz: then highlight the board you wish to review by clicking on it and click the "Next" button to step though the play.|pg||
nt|tez: boyd and robinson playing 2@d 5@h 4@s i hope|pg||
nt|sybarra2: might  just make this one |pg||
nt|sybarra2: but likely will take the @D hook |pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|santyclz: Hmmm, this doesn't look like their best possible contract...|pg||
nt|chessmaste: Passing now would not be absurd|pg||
nt|peachy: Maybe if desperate, but I dont think EW desperate at this point|pg||
nt|peachy: 4C looks natural, but I don't know if it is|pg||
nt|reisig: I bet against a @s lead|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|dinos1: W didnt overcall 1@s so ...|pg||
pc|d3|nt|santyclz: That makes the pass by s more reasonable.|pg||
pc|d4|nt|reisig: Sam????   :)|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|chessmaste: 2NT - I'll let you off the hook because I'm vulnerable |pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|sybarra2: it is makeable,  but not likely made at the table imo |pg||
pc|s5|nt|peachy: Play will present no real problem, even though trumps are 4-0|pg||
pc|s2|nt|dinos1: so no @s lead))|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o49|st||md|3SKQJ965HA5D6CKQJ9,S4H9832DKQJ542CA7,SAT2HKQJ64DA73C63,S873HT7DT98CT8542|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|4H!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|nt|Vugraphzfj: this should be keycard for s|pg||
mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: no swing here|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c49|st||md|3SKQJ965HA5D6CKQJ9,S4H9832DKQJ542CA7,SAT2HKQJ64DA73C63,S873HT7DT98CT8542|sv|o|nt|dinos1: @d to K - ducked - set @c - took shift with A and play @d to Q|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|santyclz: 4333 11 count, barely worth a limit raise.|pg||
nt|peachy: Invite, force, or go to game choices|pg||
nt|reisig: Nice - fast auction|pg||
mb|3D|nt|chessmaste: 3@D - Bergen raise probably |pg||
mb|d|an|!|mb|4D|mb|4N|an|!|nt|sybarra2: X is 3 card support no doubt|pg||
mb|5D|nt|chessmaste: They led a club against 4@S, but North never got a ruff|pg||
nt|santyclz: In spite of the open room result, 3@s seems normal to me with qj- aceless hand.|pg||
nt|peachy: Considering vullnerability, I liked Pollack's choice|pg||
nt|peachy: tricky lead! Escellent, put decclarer on a guess right now, though she actually has no choice |pg||
nt|reisig: An "attutude" 6 lead|pg||
nt|sybarra2: support X as it is called|pg||
mb|5H|an|2|mb|p|mb|6S|nt|peachy: but to play K|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra2: did we miss a pass?|pg||
mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c3|nt|tez: do you lead attitude against nt.everytime?|pg||
nt|reisig: Me?   Yes|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: They said they lead 4th or 2nd.|pg||
pc|c2|mc|12|pg||
qx|o50|st||md|4SKHKJ75DKQ9CQJ964,S873HADAJ76CAKT87,SAQ92H9632DT854C3,SJT654HQT84D32C52|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|Vugraphzfj: action|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|Vugraphzfj: pushing when so far down won't work here, surprised no double|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: all the swings went the other way|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|h2|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|c6|pc|s3|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c50|st||md|4SKHKJ75DKQ9CQJ964,S873HADAJ76CAKT87,SAQ92H9632DT854C3,SJT654HQT84D32C52|sv|n|nt|reisig: This hand doesn't need us :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|d|nt|casenjo:  In the other room North declared board 20, so East was able to lead a heart thru for down 1|pg||
mb|2D|an|!|mb|p|nt|peachy: Last hand was played from N in the other table so 2 H, 1 D and 1 S to lose|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|casenjo:  It is often important to have the big hand on lead, this is one reason for the transfer bids over takeout doubles becoming popular|pg||
nt|sybarra2: oh oh |pg||
nt|sybarra2: this looks like a slight confusion |pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|dinos1: cue with @s as trumps|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|tez: are we sure 4@h is cue?|pg||
pc|s8|nt|scotty: See Lev-Eisenberg auction here?|pg||
pc|s2|nt|dinos1: after jump to 3@s?)|pg||
nt|reisig: well ...sorry|pg||
pc|s4|nt|tez: they are lucky..np|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|reisig: Billy is a tad upset ...I know this|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|nt|sybarra2: or maybe it was 4 card suits up the line,  not sure what 2 @D was |pg||
pc|d4|pc|c2|pg||
nt|peachy: This will have to drift one off|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|s3|pg||
nt|tez: if you have x qjt98xxx jtxx x  what do you bid to 4@h? |pg||
nt|dinos1: 4@h :)|pg||
nt|dinos1: not as spl)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Technical.  Results in a moment.|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o51|st||md|1S72HKQ53DK5CQ7542,ST83H98762DQ876C9,SKQ4HAJTDJ32CAT63,SAJ965H4DAT94CKJ8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|Vugraphzfj: east alerts|pg||
mb|2H!|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: cold if do clubs right|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: can't let west in|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: bang down ace clubs|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sJ|mc|6|nt|Vugraphzfj: when it goes bad.....and these guys are soooooooooooooo nice |pg||
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qx|c51|st||md|1S72HKQ53DK5CQ7542,ST83H98762DQ876C9,SKQ4HAJTDJ32CAT63,SAJ965H4DAT94CKJ8|sv|e|nt|tez: ok you have 6 card @h|pg||
nt|reisig: 4@h never to play|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|casenjo:  one suiter|pg||
mb|1N|mb|2S|an|!|mb|3S|an|!|nt|peachy: EW play variable NT's, this eat and vulnerability it is 14-16|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra2: asking |pg||
mb|3N|nt|peachy: *seat|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Good evening to Bill Frisby|pg||
nt|reisig: not easy for Boyd|pg||
nt|tez: 1 nt ok for me|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: hi good evening everyone|pg||
nt|peachy: Hello Bill, good to have you here|pg||
nt|reisig: X gets @d involved...ugh|pg||
nt|sybarra2: this is a slightly messy hand however, W has no entry |pg||
mb|p|nt|reisig: This is an easy play problem|pg||
mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg||
nt|sybarra2: some what optimistic |pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|reisig: We need more contracts in 4-2 fits ...juice things up a bit|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c4|nt|athene: i would be wanting to double 2@H for takeout with east if it's likely to end the auction|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Thanks.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
nt|sybarra2: likely sigh of releif that k of clubs with E |pg||
nt|sybarra2: now a @D?   put declarer to the test?|pg||
nt|sybarra2: again much easier for here to say that |pg||
nt|sybarra2: and as you all are pointing out,  will hop K |pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s6|nt|reisig: Seems like 110|pg||
nt|sybarra2: and +1  now |pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o52|st||md|2SQ8HAT63DQJ4CQT72,SKJ954HK7D85CJ865,ST73HQ942DK9CA943,SA62HJ85DAT7632CK|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p!|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: ron has not balanced all day|pg||
mb|d|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|sA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|d2|pc|h3|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c52|st||md|2SQ8HAT63DQJ4CQT72,SKJ954HK7D85CJ865,ST73HQ942DK9CA943,SA62HJ85DAT7632CK|sv|b|nt|athene: 2@H pass or correct i imagine|pg||
nt|athene: you have to treat these bids as natural for the purposes of doubling|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: maybe it's more important at MP for EW to get into their spade fit|pg||
nt|athene: but still could easily have been a double partscore swing rather than just 3 imps|pg||
mb|2D|nt|reisig:  X get interesting|pg||
mb|p|nt|tez: 2@c majors|pg||
nt|tez: 2@d asks longer major|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|nt|santyclz: 5332, vul -- 1@h seems enough.|pg||
pc|c5|nt|chessmaste: 2@D looks like a Multi|pg||
nt|chessmaste: Not one I would commend|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yep  2@D = weak major in ALL seats|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cK|pg||
pc|c3|pc|d2|nt|chessmaste: Well, they are a level lower - sometimes that is worth a point ot two|pg||
nt|santyclz: Fortunately s eschewed the "automatic" bump to 3 with 3 card support.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pg||
pc|dA|nt|peachy: S must not touch hearts to set this, as we can see Dbl dummy|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg||
nt|reisig: Hand a a bit easier|pg||
nt|reisig: Making many|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|tez: @c ruff|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o53|st||md|3SAJT32H3D6CKQJ752,SQ8H965DKQJ85CT93,S965HKQJ842DT9C84,SK74HAT7DA7432CA6|sv|n|mb|2H|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: action|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: claim down 2 doubled but they won't let me play|pg||
mc|7|nt|Vugraphzfj: down 1 unwhacked|pg||
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qx|c53|st||md|3SAJT32H3D6CKQJ752,SQ8H965DKQJ85CT93,S965HKQJ842DT9C84,SK74HAT7DA7432CA6|sv|n|mb|2D|an|!|nt|reisig: 2@h may slow West a bit|pg||
mb|2N|nt|santyclz: Another weak 2 that not everybody would make.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does it help you judge the range of the bid?   :)|pg||
nt|santyclz: Although in the open room Jacobus made the same bid.|pg||
nt|sybarra2: 2 @D = multi,   1 major|pg||
nt|sybarra2: like a wk 2 |pg||
nt|sybarra2: S quite sure he knows which one|pg||
mb|p|nt|chessmaste: Your suit is poor, you have four cards in the other major and a first round control - that looks like three flaws. Most players will accept two, but three is perhaps too many|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: DBL = penalty|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: diplomats would say   non-optimal at this level|pg||
mb|p|pc|cJ|nt|santyclz: Please, be precise:  sub-optimal.|pg||
nt|athene: should be a boring 3nt +1|pg||
nt|peachy: A common way to play this type of hand is that 2D is forcing, 2H is not|pg||
nt|reisig: Not pretty ...but normal|pg||
nt|dinos1: @d|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|nt|peachy: but matter of agreements|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: hang on    grabbing my thesaurus    |pg||
pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg||
nt|athene: EW play 1@C - 2@D is 5@S4@H weakish|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dK|nt|athene: so it's fine for 2@H to be forcing - responder is never stuck|pg||
nt|sybarra2: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=35&Itemid=353|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d3|nt|peachy: Good striucture|pg||
nt|reisig: Put dummy back in the pocket|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|d2|nt|peachy: minor over minor WJS (or even SJS) is not that useful|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s5|nt|santyclz: This is going to be esxpensive for Woolsey.|pg||
nt|peachy: imo only...|pg||
pc|dA|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|mc|7|pg||
qx|o54|st||md|4SKJ75432H76D98C73,S9HAQ8543DQT3CA94,SAQ6HJ2DJ76CKQJ86,ST8HKT9DAK542CT52|sv|e|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: great tactical bid, 4h cold ew|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: bid 4h made 6 other room|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c54|st||md|4SKJ75432H76D98C73,S9HAQ8543DQT3CA94,SAQ6HJ2DJ76CKQJ86,ST8HKT9DAK542CT52|sv|e|nt|santyclz: Time to call for a smoke break, even if you don't smoke...|pg||
nt|athene: not only do you tire them out but you can also watch how they discard and maybe learn something useful for future hands|pg||
nt|sybarra2: n/s having a rousing set here|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|an|!|nt|ahollan1: other rooms visible via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3rd/4th seat  1N=15-17|pg||
nt|athene: i.e. sometimes you might learn that one opponent tends to falsecard more than the other, or something like that |pg||
nt|reisig: A calm 4@h|pg||
mb|2H|mb|d|an|!|nt|athene: of course i am sure all these players know each other's styles quite well anyway|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: 2@C=Puppet Stayman|pg||
nt|athene: strong club|pg||
nt|peachy: 1C = Precision 16+|pg||
mb|4S|an|!|nt|athene: in the bad old days, a strong 4-4-41 had to start by giving a negative|pg||
nt|athene: then people realised that was silly and it was better to just use some high-level response to show it|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: 3? what's your bid?|pg||
nt|tez: 4@h|pg||
nt|reisig: show shortness|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Robinson and Eisenberg doing a good deal of talking and joking with each other.|pg||
nt|tez: solid @h minimum hand|pg||
mb|5D|nt|peachy: Do you know if 3C shows specific singl|pg||
nt|athene: now all the defence know about declarer's hand is it wants to play 3nt facing 1-4-4-4; so it probably won't have four hearts and it probably will have fairly robust spades, but ...|pg||
nt|athene: other than that...|pg||
nt|peachy: looks that way|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: ah, ok, 3@C was 1-4-4-4 or 4-4-4-1|pg||
nt|dinos1: @dA? Not shortness|pg||
mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|peachy: I call for commentator coffee break :)|pg||
nt|sybarra2: the x is very specialized,  looks like 3 card spade support as the opps bid the other major (hearts)|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|h3|pg||
nt|dinos1: sqz for 11|pg||
pc|hA|nt|dinos1: W controls both minors|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|h7|pg||
nt|chessmaste: You would expect East to play a spade now |pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d2|nt|chessmaste: Now declarer does best to play low - well done|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o55|st||md|1SAQJ42HA862DQ98C6,SKT85HQ3DAJ763CA7,S973HJ75DK4CKQ842,S6HKT94DT52CJT953|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|nt|Vugraphzfj: might be a little swing here, staying low|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d9|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|h6|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|h8|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s9|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
mc|8|nt|Vugraphzfj: short break|pg||
pg||
qx|c55|st||md|1SAQJ42HA862DQ98C6,SKT85HQ3DAJ763CA7,S973HJ75DK4CKQ842,S6HKT94DT52CJT953|sv|b|nt|santyclz: We seem to be back.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yes, lost power needed extension cord to reach plug|pg||
nt|santyclz: This looks like a @s partscore.  If w gets too active though it could be "interesting".|pg||
nt|santyclz: To support our theme, it appears to be another good hand on which not to play 2@dx'd.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Short break.|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|2S|nt|dinos1: @c shift at trick 2 wd ruin the sqz|pg||
mb|3D|nt|reisig: Part score in @ss here?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|santyclz: A good hand to go quietly.|pg||
mb|p|nt|dinos1: what is X of 2@s? Fit?|pg||
nt|reisig: Clearly - not for a lead :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: 3@s  ...end|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c6|nt|athene: normal enough to leave this in with a 4-3-3-3|pg||
nt|dinos1: I prefer it as @c+@h|pg||
nt|tez: and just made:)|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|athene: partner should be fairly balanced as she could have bid another suit if she wanted|pg||
nt|athene: if she had bid only 2nt rather than 3nt then there is not the same guarantee, in standard methods|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|nt|reisig: He ducked?|pg||
nt|tez: he didnt hope pd has 6 card @d|pg||
nt|reisig: :)|pg||
nt|reisig: brb|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Robinson very figidty.  Puts cards down.  Picks them up.  Studies them.  Puts them down.  Etc.|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dA|nt|athene: declarer's problem is that if she tries a diamond and guesses wrong, north can cash the clubs and south can signal for a diamond on the fourth|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d3|pc|c2|nt|athene: so there would be no chance to fall back on the spade finesse|pg||
nt|athene: so she runs the hearts first just to see what happens - a pretty good general policy|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|peachy: yes, as long as declarer's hand is not in discarding trouble|pg||
nt|athene: there are lots of other intriguing possibilities such as throwing north in with a club|pg||
nt|athene: but you could look very silly if you e.g. cashed the @SAK to drop north's spades then threw her in|pg||
nt|athene: and she led a diamond to south's ace and south cashed the @SQ :)|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s4|nt|athene: ok, north has thrown TWO spades now so perhaps cashing one spade then exiting a club is a possibility|pg||
nt|athene: in fact i think it's more than a possibility - i think the discards suggest it quite strongly|pg||
pc|sT|nt|peachy: If you are in Windows version and would like to watch both tables (or multiple tables) simultaneously, click    http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or,      ...|pg||
nt|peachy: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c5|pg||
nt|athene: it's usually a mistake to void yourself of a suit in notrump play|pg||
pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|c9|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h7|pc|cT|pc|h6|pg||
nt|athene: if deceiving declarer is at all an issue on the hand|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o56|st||md|2SJT62H97DQ5CAQ732,SQ5HAQJ62DK962CJ8,S873H4DA743CKT954,SAK94HKT853DJT8C6|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: might be fit jump|pg||
mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|Vugraphzfj: low diamond would probably beat it|pg||
mc|11|nt|Vugraphzfj: no one else is doing much and i am getting positive feedback, but ty|pg||
pg||
qx|c56|st||md|2SJT62H97DQ5CAQ732,SQ5HAQJ62DK962CJ8,S873H4DA743CKT954,SAK94HKT853DJT8C6|sv|o|nt|athene: she will be a bit unhappy to find out that she couldn't have got the diamond guess wrong|pg||
nt|casenjo:  nicely played|pg||
nt|athene: she wanted north to have @DAQ|pg||
nt|athene: but i think with @DAQ north would have been able to let a diamond or two go earlier|pg||
nt|tez: boyd played with open cards:)wd|pg||
nt|dinos1: wasnt fin unsafe?|pg||
nt|sybarra2: maybe state of match bid |pg||
mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: 1st/2nd non-vul  1N=10-12|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not for the squeemish|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: when she clings fanatically to four diamonds that suggests she just has 109xx - she would pitch one from the queen and two from the ace, probably|pg||
nt|athene: if she started with four|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Janice should love her hand on this auction|pg||
mb|4C|nt|sybarra2: quick 4 ht bid?|pg||
mb|p|nt|sybarra2: splinter works aslo|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|nt|athene: "6-5, come alive" or something|pg||
nt|peachy: NS do have paying sacrifice and S likely tries for it|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|chessmaste: I wonder if East's pass has any meaning?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if Bates DBL = was good hand   Stewart RDBL = some 1-suiter|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: and that is the route he took|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C forced  2@D to play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: pass would have ended the auction  and looks like race to 7 tricks|pg||
nt|chessmaste: He did well to follow that route - on this deal|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: interesting false preference there|pg||
pc|s3|nt|athene: i guess north decides that south is most likely exactly 6-5|pg||
pc|s4|nt|athene: with hearts two cards longer than clubs she would surely bid 4NT over 4@S|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|c8|nt|dinos1: more or less flat hands so far|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if it goes 1N-DBL-end   what do you lead from West?|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
mc|11|nt|athene: if east has @CA10xx there is nothing you can do because she is going to duck if you lead the queen|pg||
pg||
qx|o57|st||md|3SK7HJ732DAJ43CJT2,S9653HAKDQ9CKQ875,SAT84HT964DT852CA,SQJ2HQ85DK76C9643|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: make 2|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfj: nice play in d for overtrick|pg||
pg||
qx|c57|st||md|3SK7HJ732DAJ43CJT2,S9653HAKDQ9CKQ875,SAT84HT964DT852CA,SQJ2HQ85DK76C9643|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|tez: do you bid 1@s?|pg||
nt|reisig: may avoid game|pg||
nt|tez: or 2@s or pass|pg||
nt|reisig: NO!|pg||
nt|dinos1: not me|pg||
nt|dinos1: 2@s maybe|pg||
nt|reisig: 2@s vul?  ..nah|pg||
nt|tez: i would bid 1@s|pg||
nt|reisig: Billy will bid 3@h|pg||
mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 2@C=10-15 HCP, 6+@C    2@D=relay  |pg||
nt|santyclz: Whew, I was afraid 2@c would end the auction.|pg||
nt|reisig: :)|pg||
mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 3@S = 6@C 5@S|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: oops  i forgot they flip-flop response of 3@S & 3N|pg||
nt|athene: if north had treated her hand as 5-5 in the minors, rather than a t/o double, then maybe south would have found another 5@C bid|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: so 3N = 6+@C & 5@S   [3@S would show solid @C]|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: other room the auction went 1@s 3@s 6@s, with a double by west in between|pg||
nt|ritong: the flop was not ok for this all in move|pg||
mb|3C|nt|athene: south had better overtake the next heart and stick a diamond back|pg||
nt|peachy: S does not know of massive spadefit, can anticipate maybe 1 spade loser|pg||
nt|peachy: did not know during bidding|pg||
nt|reisig: I would bid 3@h|pg||
mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: i wonder how close Stewart was to opening Strong 1@C|pg||
nt|tez: me too|pg||
mb|p|nt|chessmaste: Man overboard!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: seems to me 5@S says   oops  i should have opened 1@C|pg||
nt|dinos1: I wd cue 4@c over 3@d|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c9|nt|reisig: Well ..4@h is a reasonable spot|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|athene: north should lead the jack second time|pg||
nt|athene: make it a bit easier for partner to overtake|pg||
pc|dT|nt|athene: now the diamond loser goes on the long heart|pg||
pc|d6|nt|reisig: Probable push|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Lost the play.  Results in a moment.|pg||
nt|reisig: -100 ...for sure|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s4|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: did wold really dump @S10|pg||
nt|santyclz: Hardly seems likely.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well  this IS the seniors     [sorry about that]|pg||
nt|ritong: ...|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o58|st||md|4SQ97HQT6DJT852CKQ,SAKT6HK74DKQ93C92,SJ842HJ852DA4CJ74,S53HA93D76CAT8653|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|hA|nt|fabsayc: need some help?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: open room result likely to be duplicated|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: ????????????????? why not small and go after cluuuuuuuuuuuuuuubs?|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not enough dummy entries to set up the clubs|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: duck one then ace and another|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: by that time heart ace will be knocked out|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: clubs u need miracle, diamonds u need revoke|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|c58|st||md|4SQ97HQT6DJT852CKQ,SAKT6HK74DKQ93C92,SJ842HJ852DA4CJ74,S53HA93D76CAT8653|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: always good to go down 2 when you're in 5   makes partner think 4 wasn't making|pg||
nt|athene: hard to believe this got passed out|pg||
nt|athene: everyone has a bid! :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Back from our break now.|pg||
nt|athene: welcome back :)|pg||
nt|sybarra2: sqeaking it home |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=2+|pg||
nt|peachy: Precision 2@C|pg||
nt|reisig: 3NT won't do well|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|athene: 2@S non-forcing but constructive for most precision-club-style pairs|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: DBL = takeout    big surprise, right|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ok  BOTH   DBL were takeout|pg||
nt|peachy: 2@S forcing 1 round|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i wonder what difference would be for Wold   2@D vs RDBL|pg||
nt|athene: ah right ok|pg||
nt|athene: well clearly 3@H shows a good hand anyway|pg||
nt|peachy: aah, maybe not|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: 4@S now|pg||
nt|peachy: well, card says it is F|pg||
nt|athene: trump lead, diamond back, trump?|pg||
nt|sybarra2: he make duck the first ht all around, but maybe was not ht lead|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: EW keep bidding @D    scary stuff|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
nt|athene: easy for us :)|pg||
nt|athene: so often you feel you probably ought to lead a trump but you decide to lay down just ONE top honour first to see dummy|pg||
nt|athene: and what you see is, yes, ya shouldda led that trump|pg||
nt|peachy: Garozzo's rule: Freely paraphrased:  You must have a good reason not to lead trump|pg||
nt|athene: the auction does suggest north might be ruffing diamonds|pg||
nt|athene: so i think a trump lead is not impossible to find|pg||
nt|athene: west might be a bit scared that if she leads trumps declarer might get the clubs going, but partner's job is to hold a nice big club card|pg||
nt|peachy: In this auction, N could be 5-4 though|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Long discussion with Rosenburg and N-S as to the meaning of N bids.|pg||
nt|athene: i am sure 2@C promises six|pg||
nt|sybarra2: *he may|pg||
nt|sybarra2: and did |pg||
pc|h6|nt|athene: no-one plays it as 5+ any more|pg||
nt|athene: well, ok, some do, but not many|pg||
nt|peachy: I dont know their styule exactly but 5-4 is possible in addition to 6-3 and 6-4|pg||
nt|peachy: the way many play|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: It was described as 6-4 or cue.|pg||
pc|hK|nt|ritong: 660 other room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kit's 3@D ruled out that contract|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|pg||
nt|peachy: ok, I am behind the times then, no surprise there|pg||
nt|peachy: Thx Kathy|pg||
nt|athene: most strong club pairs these days give up a bit of definition on the 1@D opener in order to have 2@C promise six cards|pg||
nt|athene: so with e.g. 4M225@C they are opening 1@D|pg||
nt|athene: (or 1nt of course, hahaha)|pg||
nt|peachy: Perhaps some judgment allowed with a very sparkly club suit of 5 cards, I would assume|pg||
nt|athene: yes, @CAKQJ10 might decide that isn't a 1@D opener :)|pg||
nt|athene: not sure clubs can be sparkly though, can they?|pg||
nt|athene: only diamonds|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c8|nt|reisig: Sam plays all hands in game/slam|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h8|nt|peachy: :)|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|athene: diamond ruff high, trump, the end|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|c3|pc|d5|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c7|nt|athene: @C5 hoping for a trump promo, but not today|pg||
nt|reisig: 31 IMPs is not the end of the world|pg||
pc|cA|nt|peachy: Another demonstration of how big spots are useful|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s3|nt|reisig: Likely 2N (or 3N) other table|pg||
nt|dinos1: either 1N or 3N)|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|reisig: East must try|pg||
pc|c5|pc|d8|mc|6|pg||
qx|o59|st||md|1SK532H643DQJTC954,SAT87HQJD83CQJT83,SJ9HT82DK962CAK62,SQ64HAK975DA754C7|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2D!|nt|fabsayc: 2@D is a slight overbid with only 2 trumps|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|d3|nt|Vugraphzfj: 2d was alerted, don't think it showed support|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: mohan has a dilemma now, as he knows clubs will run|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|d5|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cT|nt|Vugraphzfj: spotwatchers|pg||
pc|c2|pc|d7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d8|mc|10|pg||
qx|c59|st||md|1SK532H643DQJTC954,SAT87HQJD83CQJT83,SJ9HT82DK962CAK62,SQ64HAK975DA754C7|sv|o|nt|peachy: QJ109xx a different animal than QJxxxx|pg||
nt|athene: Molson will not be too hopeful - if declarer's trumps were susceptible to a trump promotion she would probably not ruff the diamond with the king|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Short break.|pg||
nt|jpes: need help|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: would prefer to ruff low, lead king, and if that is allowed to hold, come to hand with heart ruff|pg||
nt|reisig: 3@h here?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Yes|pg||
nt|reisig: Hard to avoid 4@c|pg||
nt|jpes: a player with sporting blood|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal  17+ bal|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = non-force  denies 4@H/@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: you sorta want to show both majors with that south hand|pg||
nt|reisig: 4@h -- not best|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|nt|athene: normally if you are going to compete with a modest 44 majors you bid 1@S intending 2@H next|pg||
nt|athene: but south didn't really want to do that because she wants the heart lead|pg||
nt|athene: so if she started with 1@S and opps went into a fast 3nt or something, she would not feel so good|pg||
nt|peachy: Yes, this hand exception, also a consideration if partner reads you for 5S 4H|pg||
pc|d2|nt|tez: i wold bid 4@h.you?|pg||
nt|dinos1: i'dt bid|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|athene: the problem is now she has to bid 2@S|pg||
nt|tez: would|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: i wonder how auction will go in other room    1@C[nat]-1@H//??   1N??|pg||
pc|d8|nt|ritong: was not here at that time|pg||
nt|athene: but she feels ok, if partner didn't raise my hearts she should have four spades|pg||
nt|tez: if parner has !q of @d enuf:)|pg||
nt|reisig: 5-5 .w 4+ fit ...yes|pg||
nt|jpes: absolutely and the dummy would annoy me|pg||
nt|tez: dummy has very bad for me|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|pg||
nt|athene: it all comes down to how much the doubler needs just to make a "courtesy" raise|pg||
nt|athene: in the old days you needed a really big hand but the requirements are dropping steadily|pg||
pc|c7|nt|athene: people prefer to just raise on anything if they have 4-card support|pg||
nt|athene: quite right too :) gotta get in there|pg||
nt|peachy: In competition (over the Dbl) even sttricter pdships allow raise with less if pure sort of hand|pg||
nt|athene: if north has a 17 count with 4 hearts she can surely redouble first or cue or something|pg||
nt|athene: i don't think 2@H over the double of 1@H should show the world|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Missed the auction.  2H is contract.|pg||
pc|c4|nt|dinos1: even then only -1|pg||
nt|sybarra2: np |pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
nt|athene: but anyway....the end result is that south has had to go a level higher than necessary|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Missed the play also.  Results shortly.|pg||
mc|10|nt|sybarra2: its been a long day for everyone|pg||
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qx|o60|st||md|2SKQ653HKDKQ9754C5,SA72HJT9653DJCK94,SJT9HQ42D6CAJT732,S84HA87DAT832CQ86|sv|n|mb|2D!|nt|Vugraphzfj: must be multi again|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S!|nt|Vugraphzfj: must show good hheart raise|pg||
mb|3S|nt|Vugraphzfj: henry has corrected me, it's that if the suit is hearts :)|pg||
mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: action|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@S looks cold but is not|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: trump best?|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|fabsayc: breathing can cost too|pg||
pc|d6|nt|fabsayc: trump is certainly possible|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: diamonds wicked|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the alternative is tap declarer if possible and duck diamond from dummy|pg||
nt|fabsayc: chambers must think lead could be from KJ10xxx|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: this was made in other room|pg||
nt|fabsayc: which is why i like jack denies, and for sure in this situation|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: me too|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: they say it costs but in 7 years has never hurt me|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he lead a diamond?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: yeah, d and h, s and c look alike now|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: sorry|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|s3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d5|nt|fabsayc: diamond is terrible lead with trump ace, u can always do that later|pg||
pc|h6|pc|sT|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg||
pc|hQ|mc|10|nt|fabsayc: garozzo rule about leading singletons should have this case as an exception|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: short break, god willing we will be back|pg||
nt|fabsayc: thanks again Mary, i believe we ran out of boards|pg||
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qx|c60|st||md|2SKQ653HKDKQ9754C5,SA72HJT9653DJCK94,SJT9HQ42D6CAJT732,S84HA87DAT832CQ86|sv|n|nt|reisig: Last of the set|pg||
nt|reisig: Might play at 1 level|pg||
nt|sybarra2: and now last bd of this set |pg||
mb|2H|nt|sybarra2: and we thank you Bill  |pg||
nt|sybarra2: time for a cocktail no doubt :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|3H|an|!|mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal or 18+ bal  [since 1N=15-17 in 3rd/4th]|pg||
mb|4S|nt|jpes: never|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: E apparently on route to show 3-card limit raise|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N=game force  9 to  non-opener|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H natural AND ask  support/controls|pg||
nt|athene: she will just bid game now|pg||
nt|peachy: 2S changed the picture|pg||
nt|athene: if you bid 1nt intending to show a 3-card limit raise and partner rebids the major you generally just bid game|pg||
nt|athene: the more thin games you play the more you appreciate that nice ninth trump|pg||
nt|athene: not sure quite what 4@C is all about|pg||
nt|athene: maybe it's actually a 4@S bid :)|pg||
nt|athene: 4@C is alerted and explained as "i can't find my 4@S bid, but this will do, in a poor light"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Long conversation about the 4C, but I couldn't read.|pg||
mb|p|pc|hA|nt|athene: ok a spectator suggests east might have thought west rebid 3@S|pg||
nt|reisig: 2@s ...end|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|nt|athene: in which case 4@C would be a reasonable control bid|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|ritong: undo pls|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C at least @HQxx or @Hxxxx  0-2 controls  [A=2 K=1]|pg||
nt|santyclz: The next session is supposed to start in about 6 minutes, it may be delayed slightly.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@H undoubled :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: operator won't be able to lead from correct hand|pg||
nt|santyclz: Vg in your timezone: http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php  Make it your home page!|pg||
pc|c6|nt|athene: or maybe west DID rebid 3@S! :)|pg||
nt|dinos1: 2N :)|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: someday software will allow  insert pass instead of all undo|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|athene: but i don't think so|pg||
nt|peachy: Kathy alerted 4C after the fact, surely then the bid was 4C|pg||
nt|athene: yes, i think east seeing 2@S as 3@S is the most likely explanation|pg||
nt|dinos1: all suits were bid, what to lead? :)|pg||
nt|dinos1: @d9?|pg||
nt|tez: nt:)|pg||
pc|d6|nt|tez: duck @d|pg||
nt|reisig: Might beat this|pg||
pc|dA|nt|dinos1: good passive lead|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|peachy: Kathy, our vugraph operator, that is :)|pg||
pc|h8|pc|s3|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg||
nt|athene: i thought they put bids on a tray though? in which case she would see it right the second time around|pg||
mc|10|nt|santyclz: I doubt that's a high priority item on the release changes plan.|pg||
nt|ritong: mm|pg||
nt|ahollan1: all changes for vugraph  are way low on list|pg||
nt|jpes: strong opening lead by boyd|pg||
nt|sybarra2: thx all,  cu tomorrow |pg||
nt|sybarra2: congrats to Kasle team |pg||
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