vg|2011 USWBC USA1 FINALS,Segment 6 of 6,I,81,96,Moss,185,Sprung,160|
rs|1NW=,1NS-3,4HW+1,4HW=,3DN=,3NN-2,1NE-2,1NE=,5CE-2,3HN=,1SE+1,2SE=,5DN+1,6DN=,3CS=,4HN-2,4HN=,4HN=,2SE-1,1NW-1,2SS-1,2SS-1,2DE-1,3NS-2,4SN=,4SN=,3HE=,3HE=,4HE=,4HW=,1SEx-2,1NN=|
pn|Stansby,Bernstein,Migry,Wheeler,Robertson,Radin,Sprung,Moss|pg||
qx|o81|st||md|3SKJTHA82DJ5CQJ854,SA8762HQ5DQ86CAKT,SQ43H9743DA973C73,S95HKJT6DKT42C962|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|paulg:  I expect it is pretty tense with only 25 imps difference, not a big lead for 16 boards|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome to CK|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: the atmosphere throughout at this table has been cordial.  no obvious signs of tension|pg||
mb|1N|nt|psyck: Hello everyone|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|nt|Walddk2: And the appeal may narrow the gap further|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Only Sprung can gain, if any|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: I think the appeal will faavor Moss, if anyone|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hT|nt|Walddk2: We shall see|pg||
nt|paulg:  But is it not Moss who is appealing, so they must believe that they are due to gain|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: the director's ruling was +620 for Sprung|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I take it you will announce the verdict when you have it|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: I will|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|nt|Walddk2: Oh right sorry, I got it upside-down|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes, Moss can gain if the TD's ruling is not upheld|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h9|pc|c9|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s7|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|d4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d8|mc|7|nt|paulg:  playing the same contract in both rooms is rarely successful for a team|pg||
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qx|c81|st||md|3SKJTHA82DJ5CQJ854,SA8762HQ5DQ86CAKT,SQ43H9743DA973C73,S95HKJT6DKT42C962|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|mdgraham: reckon South opened 1@c and West bid 1@s|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|tez: Hi all:)|pg||
nt|mikam1: Hi - Mike Kamil here|pg||
nt|mikam1: Hi|pg||
nt|tez: Hi|pg||
mb|p|nt|mdgraham: although, given the hands, 1NT could be played by either NS or EW|pg||
mb|p|pc|s6|pc|sQ|nt|Walddk4: Welcome Peter and Mike|pg||
nt|pef: hi all|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sT|pg||
nt|tez: very good 6 @d|pg||
nt|mikam1: NS are on for 6D, but very hard to reach|pg||
pc|c3|nt|mikam1: Perfect controls and the 109 of clubs|pg||
nt|tez: need 2 @c trick and split @d|pg||
nt|mikam1: Must be somewhere in the neighborhood of 65% I suspect|pg||
nt|mikam1: Although I'm not great at bridge math :)|pg||
nt|tez: they have zero bad point|pg||
pc|c2|nt|mdgraham: Good evening all from London, where the weather has much improved |pg||
nt|pef: if you mean mike kamil, roland, he switched with me|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sA|nt|tez: AKQ trump 3 aces 1 king|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s9|nt|pef: oh, mike graham, sorry|pg||
nt|Walddk4: I mean Mike Graham|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|c6|pc|sK|pg||
nt|mikam1: Some would open the North hand with 1N even playing 15-17, with 5 controls and 3 tens|pg||
nt|mdgraham: this doesn't look too bright for South|pg||
nt|pef: there is currently an appeal from the last segment being discussed in committee which would make the match about 9-10 imps closers if the ruling favors the sprung team|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s7|pc|h3|nt|tez: @c?|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c5|pg||
nt|tez: discard|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|mdgraham: I am surprised they started this segment without it being resolved |pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|d7|nt|pef: i guess they don't want to start so late that the schedule for the USA2 final gets delayed|pg||
nt|mdgraham: the players are surely entitled to know the state of the match going into the last 16 boards |pg||
pc|dT|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg||
nt|pef: perhaps they will be informed as soon as the committee rules|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|d5|mc|4|nt|mdgraham: nect Tuesday?|pg||
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qx|o82|st||md|4S8743H54DKQT53C54,S2HAQJ963D972CJ93,SJT65HKTDAJ64CKT6,SAKQ9H872D8CAQ872|sv|n|mb|1C|nt|Walddk2: Good evening to Yuval Yener|pg||
nt|yuval10: hello Roland, good evening|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|1S|nt|psyck: they did well to get to game other room|pg||
nt|yuval10: S will compete now|pg||
mb|2D|nt|psyck: no support redoubles for EW|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|psyck: E likes his hand after opps show stuff in @d's|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yuval10: i don't think i agree with both 4@d and 4@h|pg||
nt|paulg:  Wheeler has a massive hand after the simple 1@s rebid, after her partner shows 5+ hearts|pg||
nt|psyck: i was expecting a simple 3@h raise on 2@h|pg||
nt|yuval10: in the contaxt of his previous bids, West's hand is pretty good over partner's 4@d|pg||
nt|yuval10: i'd expect 5@h|pg||
pc|s5|nt|paulg:  it is true that slam would be excellent if East's values were not in spades|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg||
nt|paulg:  but perhaps you only bid 1@s with good spades here?|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c82|st||md|4S8743H54DKQT53C54,S2HAQJ963D972CJ93,SJT65HKTDAJ64CKT6,SAKQ9H872D8CAQ872|sv|n|nt|tez: ohh.they play 3 nt..i m playing 6@d:)|pg||
nt|mikam1: :) Early for you Tezcan?|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Apparently the players will be told when the committed rules|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Looks like 2N-3N|pg||
nt|tez: undo|pg||
nt|mikam1: Unless Miner is playing the strong pass|pg||
mb|1H|nt|mdgraham: Very generous of the Committee |pg||
mb|d|mb|r!|nt|mdgraham: redbl might be 3-card heart support |pg||
mb|1S|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Small battle for the overtrick here|pg||
nt|mdgraham: good afternoon all from rainy London|pg||
nt|mikam1: Hi|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tez: Hi:)welcome Mike|pg||
mb|p|pc|s5|nt|mdgraham: maybe they do things differently across the pond, but in England a match of this stature would NEVER restart under such circumstances|pg||
nt|pef: seems like all routes lead to making 5 here|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg||
nt|mdgraham: anyway, that's got my rant out of the way|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|mikam1: Declarer won't have much to go on in terms of guessing the spade queen correctly|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cA|nt|tez: i bet he will not find q of @s|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|nt|pef: hmm, maybe only 4|pg||
pc|c9|mc|10|nt|pef: the first of I'm sure a long string of incorrect predictions :)|pg||
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qx|o83|st||md|1SAQ874H654DQCQJ73,SKJT6HKQJ7DT74C86,SHT983DAK86532CK5,S9532HA2DJ9CAT942|sv|e|nt|psyck: not sure if has to guarentee good @s's, may not have any other convenient bid|pg||
nt|paulg:  pass is available?|pg||
nt|yuval10: if they don't play support XX, then i'm pretty much assure of that|pg||
mb|1S|nt|yuval10: that 1@s is automatic with any 4 cards @s, that is|pg||
nt|psyck: yes could be say Aqxx kx xx Aqxxx|pg||
mb|p|nt|psyck: also more possible hands with no supp xx as Yuval says|pg||
mb|3D|an|natural, invitational|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|yuval10: nice gadget to play here - 3@d invitational|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|nt|psyck: that is what i play too :)|pg||
nt|paulg:  these invitational bids becoming more popular|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|yuval10: looks like W needs to play 4th @h here in order to defeat|pg||
pc|h9|pc|c9|nt|psyck: 4th @h promotes trump|pg||
nt|yuval10: it may cost though if E has KX @d and KXXXX @c|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|psyck: if @c9 was encouraging, that possible layout may make W shift to @c|pg||
nt|yuval10: if E had the JXX @d the situation is more obvious and he could've discourage @c ( or enoucrage @s which is "unreasonable" ) to ask Partner to play 4th @h|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfk: on the appeal hand, the comm ruled 4@H -1, so Moss has 12 more IMPs than the score shows|pg||
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qx|c83|st||md|1SAQ874H654DQCQJ73,SKJT6HKQJ7DT74C86,SHT983DAK86532CK5,S9532HA2DJ9CAT942|sv|e|nt|mikam1: Interesting to see what Moss will do over the 1@C opening|pg||
nt|mikam1: Either pass or 1@S is possible|pg||
nt|mikam1: Or 2@C if played as natural of course|pg||
nt|mdgraham: perhaps 2@c would be natural if 1@C can be short |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: She went (reasonably) for the 4 card overcall|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|mdgraham: 1@s - Mike Lawrence would approve|pg||
nt|mikam1: :)|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|mdgraham: that's what we are here for, Peter - to prove that errare humanum est  |pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Looks like this will end it|pg||
nt|tez: 2 nt 3@h all pass?|pg||
nt|mdgraham: told 2@c would be 5/4 majors, even ove short @c|pg||
nt|pef: north seems far too good to open 3d in first of second seat, but I think many would have in third seat.  you risk losing a heart fit, but make it easier for them to compete in ...|pg||
nt|pef: spades.  interesting tradeoff|pg||
mb|3C!|nt|pef: Mike will be doing the Latin commentary, by the way|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|mdgraham: 2@h presumably nf....but South might think F if rebidding 2NT|pg||
nt|tez: 1@c 1@s 3@h..we play this hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Tough play here for West I think|pg||
nt|mdgraham: always a thorny question, whether 1@C-(1@s)-2@h should be forcing or not |pg||
nt|mikam1: She doesn't even know if partner has 2 or 3 spades|pg||
pc|c4|nt|pef: I predict that 3nt will not be a successful contract on this board|pg||
nt|mdgraham: indeed|pg||
nt|mdgraham: this is the kind of thing that not knowing the score can do - in a match that was tighter (the ruling goes to Sprung) West might have doubled 3NT for a spade lead|pg||
nt|pef: would you have bid 3d or 1d on the north hand in third seat, mike?|pg||
nt|mdgraham: which might have led to 4@D instead, but the principle is still the same |pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg||
nt|mikam1: Well this will be a winner :)|pg||
pc|d5|nt|mikam1: Good play by Radin...this will set up a defensive crossruff|pg||
nt|tez: cash @s ace..look to your partners card..if she give 7 of @s..shift @c|pg||
nt|mikam1: Excellent defense all around...but agreed on that point Tezcan|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg||
nt|mikam1: There is a "slight" chance the second spade wouldn't cash though...if they lead 3rd from 4|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|mdgraham: I think 3@D, but obviously it's close  |pg||
pc|hQ|nt|mikam1: Although granted partner might have raised with 4|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hT|nt|mikam1: well done in any case|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|mdgraham: East would surely raise spades with four trumps though|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c5|nt|mikam1: agreed|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s2|nt|mdgraham: and might have raised with her actual hand|pg||
nt|mdgraham: still, well defended|pg||
nt|tez: i can say perfect bidding|pg||
nt|mikam1: Are we still here?|pg||
nt|tez: yes|pg||
nt|mdgraham: it looks as aif NS play 2@h as forcing after the 1@s overcall (else South could have passed) |pg||
nt|mdgraham: so 2N is presumabky minimum and 3@h to play|pg||
nt|mikam1: Most play it's forcing for one round|pg||
nt|mikam1: yes|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sK|nt|pef: she is doing well to hold this to down two|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o84|st||md|2SQ753H732DK3CA985,SJ86HQT86DQT42CQ3,SAT4HKJ5DJ975CJ74,SK92HA94DA86CKT62|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfk: they assumed a diamond lead on that appeal hand and that 4@H was about 70% to go down|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|yuval10: so it's 43 imps for Moss now, a big mountain for Sprung to claim|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg||
pc|h9|nt|paulg:  In much of the rest of the world they would have given a weighted ruling (30% making, 70% down one) but I believe the USBF uses 'most probable' result|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s7|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|hQ|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
mc|5|pg||
qx|c84|st||md|2SQ753H732DK3CA985,SJ86HQT86DQT42CQ3,SAT4HKJ5DJ975CJ74,SK92HA94DA86CKT62|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pef: 3 diamonds can be beaten on the previous hand, so perhaps not much of a loss  (by playing four rounds of hearts early forcing dummy to ruff with the queen of diamond)|pg||
pc|c5|nt|mdgraham: this may be tricky - the cards aren't lying overly kindly|pg||
nt|pef: the lead is a little helpful.  close between a spade and a club lead, but I thik a spade is a little more normal|pg||
nt|mdgraham: although as it happens a spade lead would have been worse |pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
nt|pef: why?  or do you mean worse for declarer?|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg||
nt|mdgraham: I think it's worse for declarer |pg||
nt|pef: yes, that's what I meant, also|pg||
nt|mdgraham: good view there though|pg||
pc|d6|nt|pef: it looks like after this start, declarer is going to make the contract|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s6|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
nt|pef: now ace and another heart and a successfull guess in spades ..|pg||
nt|pef: on the previous board, south opened the bidding in first seat, north was able to make an invitational jump to 3d which got passed out.  the defense did not find the trump promotion ...|pg||
nt|pef: so 5 imps to moss to extend their lead|pg||
nt|mdgraham: no - three rounds of hearts and a trump switch|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|s8|nt|mdgraham: how's the Committee doing? Has it woken up yet? |pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|pef: moss decided to postpone decisions by existing with a club|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d8|nt|pef: exiting, that is :)|pg||
mc|7|nt|mdgraham: that may be a couple more imps to Moss|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: The committee ruled likely 4H contract, above 50% that defense would get it right, so 4H would be down 1|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Looks like 12 IMPS to Moss|pg||
nt|mdgraham: thanks Gary - that presumably makes a bit of difference to the score - and can there be an appeal, or is that it?   |pg||
nt|pef: wow, I didn't expect that|pg||
nt|pef: hard to predict the solomonic wisdom of committees|pg||
nt|mdgraham: I must disagree - the Committee would cut the baby in half. According to the story, Solomon didn't|pg||
nt|pef: on the last board, JoAnna Stansby in the south seat did lead a spade which led to down 2, so 9 imps on the opening lead against 1nt|pg||
nt|pef: ah, true, solomon only threatened to do that|pg||
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qx|o85|st||md|3SKQ653HQ63DJT9C84,SAT4HJTDKQ8642CT7,SJ2HK98742DA73CA9,S987HA5D5CKQJ6532|sv|n|mb|1H|nt|psyck: that was a tough one to play as most low level contracts are with too many lines of play avaialble|pg||
mb|2C|nt|psyck: it was a little easier for declarer as the defense went other table i guess|pg||
mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|3H|nt|paulg:  it was a club lead in the other room and it was natural for declarer to get the hearts right|pg||
mb|4C|nt|psyck: everyone has suits & values & want to show them here|pg||
nt|psyck: this should end now at 4@c i suippose|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|nt|yuval10: or is it|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|paulg:  Bernstein looking for swings perhaps|pg||
nt|psyck: doubleton @h not tempting for W to bid one, generally single or 3 carders better sech cases|pg||
nt|psyck: *to bid on|pg||
nt|paulg:  yes, and there is a lack of controls too|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|psyck: and had already shown hand with 3@d|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sK|nt|yuval10: the good news for them are : 1. there was no X and 2. appearently 4 is going down too|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|s8|pc|d9|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg||
nt|paulg:  Will gain an imp, but it will not feel like it|pg||
nt|yuval10: yet still i think 3@c on 1st round was way better than 2@c + 4@c by East|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c85|st||md|3SKQ653HQ63DJT9C84,SAT4HJTDKQ8642CT7,SJ2HK98742DA73CA9,S987HA5D5CKQJ6532|sv|n|nt|mdgraham: well, you can't place too much credence on these old tales|pg||
mb|1H|mb|2C|nt|pef: I didn't even realize that the moss team had an appeal, I thought it was the sprung team appealing the removal of three spades doubled to 4 hearts by the director|pg||
mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Must be the prior one no doubt....tough for the operator when the system keeps booting us :)|pg||
nt|mikam1: I think I'd open 2@D if available|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|d9|nt|mdgraham: rehi all|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|mikam1: Well - this can't be the auction on this board|pg||
nt|mdgraham: looks a tad weird |pg||
nt|mikam1: If you open 1@D and partner bids spades you're stuck|pg||
nt|tez: i would bid pass to 1@h|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|nt|tez: rehi:)|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hT|pg||
nt|mikam1: For sure - I'd pass 1@H also|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Sorry catching up got disconnected|pg||
nt|mdgraham: no problem Gary|pg||
nt|mikam1: Of course Gary - no worries...tough job today :)|pg||
nt|tez: its ok now.np:)|pg||
nt|mikam1: If I held North's hand, I'd have bid 4@H over 2|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s3|nt|mikam1: That's quite the hand opposite a partner willing to raise after opening in 3rd seat|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|c2|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|h5|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o86|st||md|4SKT8HAQ9DKT963C72,SAJ3HKT53DQ8CAKT6,S752H842D72CQJ983,SQ964HJ76DAJ54C54|sv|e|nt|paulg:  they may play ghestem or similar?|pg||
nt|psyck: the 7th @c made it borderline between 2 & 3 for me|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|psyck: esp if style if to overcall with a little lighter values at fav vul|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|pc|cA|nt|yuval10: W didn't anticipate 1@s over the X...that's exactly the reason why 1NT overcall is way better IMO|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d5|nt|psyck: good point|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|nt|yuval10: true - partner is passed hand, but you don't have 17, not 15|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d8|nt|yuval10: you have 7, that is|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|paulg:  1@d is almost always a 4-card or long suit, which suggests double|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg||
nt|psyck: 1@d not being nebulous makes it difficult to bid NT, but it is still the best way to express shape & values & aviod this bidding scenario|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg||
nt|psyck: i guess 3N could make with 3@s, & 2 in other suits here|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h3|pc|cQ|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|psyck: hardly easy to get there as we see|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
nt|paulg:  and not simple to play, real communication problems on a diamond lead|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|paulg:  but not easy to defend either|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c86|st||md|4SKT8HAQ9DKT963C72,SAJ3HKT53DQ8CAKT6,S752H842D72CQJ983,SQ964HJ76DAJ54C54|sv|e|nt|mdgraham: Do you get many appeals in your tournaments? They are quite rare over here  |pg||
mb|p|nt|mdgraham: agreed - sometimes when partner opens in third seat he actually has an opening hand |pg||
nt|mikam1: This is interesting...if 2N-3N, perhaps North should double |pg||
mb|1D|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|2S|nt|pef: at a National tournament most rulings are decided by the directors.  I'd say that typically over the course of a 10 day Nationals there are on the order of 8-12 appeals heard|pg||
mb|p|nt|mikam1: My partner (Marty Fleisher) did this to great effect in a recent Vanderbilt match|pg||
nt|tez: what do you lead from S?|pg||
nt|mikam1: I'd lead a diamond here|pg||
mb|p|nt|tez: Maj or @d?|pg||
nt|mikam1: But if partner had doubled, it would call for my short major|pg||
nt|mdgraham: not a bad shot, either, with the @DA as an entry|pg||
mb|p|nt|mdgraham: about the same, then|pg||
pc|c7|nt|mdgraham: a lot of ours are about hesitations and Unauthorised Information|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
nt|pef: same here.  there are things called "frivolous appeal points" which committees love to give if they decide the issue was unworthy of them|pg||
nt|mdgraham: meanwhile, EW are in a 25-hcp 2@s|pg||
nt|pef: my favorite is when a committee makes like a 3-2 ruling on an appeal, but then also by a 3-2 vote calls it a frivolous appeal|pg||
nt|mdgraham: perhaps they should be called cutely ridiculous appeal points|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|mikam1: You might even cause West to run, fearing 5 or 6 tricks in either major for the defense|pg||
nt|mdgraham: here you would concede 950 easily enough - such is life |pg||
nt|mdgraham: told 1@S in the other room |pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|nt|mikam1: Right :)|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|tez: nice try Balderson|pg||
nt|pef: Judi Radin is a very fast player, but Sylvia Moss is a bit more thoughtful as we are seeing|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|c6|pc|s2|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|cT|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|nt|pef: it looks like a trump back from sprung might have been more successful than the heart, difficult play|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o87|st||md|1SKQT62HJDAJ84CA76,S954HA98D976CT543,SA7HQ73DKQT52CK98,SJ83HKT6542D3CQJ2|sv|b|mb|1S|nt|psyck: a bidding test for NS now|pg||
nt|yuval10: 6@d here, looks rather easy to bid|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3H|an|shortness|nt|psyck: minor slams on borderline values usually tough|pg||
nt|yuval10: 3@h will simplify things|pg||
nt|psyck: nice seq, this should get them there|pg||
nt|paulg:  yes, Migry will have perked up now|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: now N will bid 3@s|pg||
mb|4D|an|no big slam interest|mb|p|nt|paulg:  perhaps 4@d is key-card?|pg||
nt|psyck: minorwood?|pg||
mb|5D|nt|Vugraphzfk: Migry is writing something but JoAnna did not alert|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yuval10: weird bidding|pg||
nt|psyck: yes, 3@s cue looked normal|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: 4@D was not encouraging for slam|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|nt|yuval10: well i think i'd be tad interested in slam with that hand|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d2|nt|yuval10: very good trump suit, A@s , K@c ?|pg||
pc|h2|pc|dA|nt|paulg:  I'm very surprised to see that Migry is negative with the hand|pg||
nt|yuval10: what do you need more against 3@h ?|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
mc|12|nt|paulg:  Chance for Sprung to get some urgently needed imps|pg||
pg||
qx|c87|st||md|1SKQT62HJDAJ84CA76,S954HA98D976CT543,SA7HQ73DKQT52CK98,SJ83HKT6542D3CQJ2|sv|b|nt|tez: 8 of @d was nothing..dummy has semi solid @c's|pg||
nt|mdgraham: do we know if the displayed score (199-162) includes the score adjustment from the Appeal?|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: I believe it doesn't|pg||
nt|pef: I don't think it does, maybe our operator does|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Apparently 12 more IMPS to Moss, yet unscored|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|tez: if pd has 3 small @s enuf|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 3@s anyone? |pg||
nt|mikam1: Yes, maybe even Jx or the like|pg||
nt|pef: six diamonds is certainly a reasonable contract here, let's see if they reach it|pg||
nt|mdgraham: ok, thanks. Looks bad for the Sprung team, then. They will need to spring back |pg||
mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|pef: 3 hearts is heart shortness and a diamond fit|pg||
nt|mdgraham: bidding 6@D here might help|pg||
mb|4D|nt|pef: yes, somewhat surprisingly it wasn't reached in the open room|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 4@D probably rkcb in diamonds|pg||
nt|pef: same first four bids|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: I believe the true margin is Moss +49 right now|pg||
mb|p|nt|mikam1: Yes, I'd bid 3@S here I think|pg||
mb|4N|nt|mikam1: But in any case normal result coming|pg||
nt|mikam1: Easy 4@H|pg||
nt|pef: in the closed room 4 diamonds wasn't keycard in diamonds (4 hearts would have been for them)|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 4NT two without queen (if 4@D was asking)|pg||
mb|p|mb|6D|nt|pef: so here if 4 diamonds was keycard, 4nt is two without queen|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pef: so six was reached quite easily here|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|mdgraham: and the vulnerability helps, too - 13 imps instead of 11 if non-vul |pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|h2|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|h3|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|pef: well at this point she might as well pitch two more hearts, and play for the (very) unlikely squeeze for 7|pg||
nt|pef: would requires the qj10 of clubs and the ak of hearts with east (having not lead a heart at trick 1)|pg||
nt|pef: or the j10 of clubs with west and the ak of hearts|pg||
mc|12|nt|pef: no, that's not true, just the former|pg||
nt|pef: well we believe the match is now a 36 imp margin to moss|pg||
pg||
qx|o88|st||md|2S98H953DK3CAKJT83,SAQT42HA2DJ82C652,SK76HKJ874DT76CQ4,SJ53HQT6DAQ954C97|sv|o|nt|yuval10: they need some more swingy hands like that|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: a reminder that Moss has 12 additional IMPs because of a successful appeal|pg||
mb|1N|an|12-14|nt|yuval10: it's 49 imps difference now|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|nt|paulg:  a friendly layout and it looks like nine tricks|pg||
nt|paulg:  EW missed their spade fit, but i think they only have eight tricks there|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|h4|pc|d5|pg||
nt|psyck: Sprung found the 6@d, after same auction until 4@d :)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sK|nt|yuval10: that'd be 13 imps, but still down 38|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|nt|psyck: maybe 4@d was rkc other room, i still prefer 3@s though|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s8|mc|9|pg||
qx|c88|st||md|2S98H953DK3CAKJT83,SAQT42HA2DJ82C652,SK76HKJ874DT76CQ4,SJ53HQT6DAQ954C97|sv|o|nt|tez: 2@s|pg||
nt|mikam1: thanks|pg||
mb|1S|nt|mdgraham: 36 in nine boards - by no means impossible |pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|mikam1: Looks like 1N = 14-16|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|mdgraham: now, nowm North - not the time to press    |pg||
mb|4H|nt|mikam1: Note that Miner passed despite all those values...poor 5 card suits are not meant to overcall at the two-level|pg||
nt|mikam1: Especially when both opponents have bid|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: We got disconnected and it took me a bit to catch up with Judi playing so fast!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: This lead will actually help declarer |pg||
mb|p|nt|mikam1: Although it's quite normal|pg||
nt|mikam1: a good play by South!|pg||
pc|s3|nt|mikam1: The heart ace would give declarer two heart tricks after leading towards the jack|pg||
nt|tez: good play but pd may be will jump q of @h |pg||
pc|s8|nt|mdgraham: still, was tempting|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg||
nt|pef: making 4 hearts here would require massive luck on the lie of the cards and it's close but not quite enough|pg||
pc|s7|nt|mikam1: South has the upper hand now|pg||
nt|mikam1: Even AK and another spade will leave declarer short a trick|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|h3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d8|nt|mikam1: Now clear the clubs for down one|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cQ|nt|mikam1: well done by Miner |pg||
nt|tez: claim pls Miner:)|pg||
nt|mdgraham: two down now- @H10 gets promted|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|mikam1: and so she did :)|pg||
nt|tez: very nice decisins from Miner|pg||
nt|tez: ''decisions''|pg||
nt|mikam1: Unfortunate range for 1N by EW...got them a bit high|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|h9|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg||
mc|8|nt|mdgraham: so 41 in 8|pg||
nt|pef: now 41 imps in 8 boards|pg||
pg||
qx|o89|st||md|3SK985H98D32CKJ875,S62HQ6DKQJ764C932,SA43HAJT432DATCAQ,SQJT7HK75D985CT64|sv|e|nt|yuval10: if not then perhaps slamish, if N wanted to show bad hand with @h values she'd have bid 3NT |pg||
nt|paulg:  Sprung and Robertson are not a regular partnership in the other room, so perhaps avoided 3@s as it might confuse the trump suit|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|nt|yuval10: here you can make 12 tricks in @h, but only because @c's are 3-3|pg||
mb|d|an|3 spades|nt|paulg:  and because trumps are Hx onside|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|paulg:  may just play @hA and another|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|yuval10: declarer wants to be safe against 5-0 i guess|pg||
nt|paulg:  small heart probably more accurate|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c89|st||md|3SK985H98D32CKJ875,S62HQ6DKQJ764C932,SA43HAJT432DATCAQ,SQJT7HK75D985CT64|sv|e|nt|mdgraham: in these situations, you often find that as the number of baords to play decreases, the number of imps required increases |pg||
nt|pef: it looks like six hearts actually makes on this board even with a diamond lead, but awfully hard to reach|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|mikam1: I'm a responder here|pg||
mb|1S|nt|mdgraham: almost routine to respond as South at this vulnerability|pg||
nt|mikam1: Don't like to make it easy for the vul opponents|pg||
mb|p|nt|pef: I'd be surprised if anyone comes close to bidding a slam|pg||
nt|pef: interesting dilemma for north playing standard.  awfully good in hcp and weak in heart suit to bid 3 hearts|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Whoa...|pg||
nt|pef: that's why conventions like gazzilli were invented|pg||
nt|mdgraham: I'm told that Moss was the only four-handed team to enter this trial|pg||
nt|pef: in gazzilli 2c would be forcing |pg||
mb|4C|nt|mikam1: That's NOT what I would respond :)|pg||
nt|mdgraham: although what is presumably a weak jump shift is a bit sporting on J7654 |pg||
nt|mikam1: :)|pg||
nt|tez: because she has squance in @h 7654:)|pg||
nt|tez: nealy canasta:)|pg||
nt|mikam1: :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|nt|pef: of course the invented jump shift here might just get them to 6 clubs, which doesn't make on a club lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|pef: I mean a diamond lead|pg||
nt|pef: spec points out that e/w here actually play gazzilli|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|mdgraham: presumably if MOSS wins, they will need to augment another pair for the Venice Cup |pg||
nt|pef: yes, always six person teams for the world championships as long as I can remember|pg||
nt|mdgraham: if they don't want to end brain-damaged, of course|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h2|nt|mdgraham: playing safe - @HA and another|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o90|st||md|4SJ2HQJT54DQ9CAT54,S654HAK8DJT64CKJ7,SAKTH73DAK732C863,SQ9873H962D85CQ92|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfk: sorry, we had a short break for coffee|pg||
nt|paulg:  the hands have not really been as wild as Sprung ordered from the dealing machine|pg||
mb|p|nt|psyck: 3n has its chances here, esp by N|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|an|12-14|nt|yuval10: this hand might be a good oppertunity for Sprunk, a borderline game that looks like making|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|psyck: so far, so good, all that remains is for Sprung to bid it other table :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: but you do have to get into the bidding first :)|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
nt|yuval10: perhaps 1@d opener from W in the other table...then pass pass X|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|paulg:  good advert for the weak notrump. I think Stansby might have balanced if they did not have a good lead.|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|c6|pc|h9|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sQ|mc|7|nt|Vugraphzfk: I'd be surprised if Radin passes 1@D as East at the other table|pg||
pg||
qx|c90|st||md|4SJ2HQJT54DQ9CAT54,S654HAK8DJT64CKJ7,SAKTH73DAK732C863,SQ9873H962D85CQ92|sv|b|nt|mikam1: And now back to real life |pg||
nt|mdgraham: yes...no double, no trouble, and all that sort of thing|pg||
nt|mikam1: :)|pg||
nt|mikam1: I suppose NS will wangle their way to 4@S here|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Although there'll be a bit of competition|pg||
mb|1D|nt|mdgraham: yes..or possibly 5@C|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|mikam1: I like to play negative double here promises 4-4 in the majors|pg||
nt|tez: if Miner has perfect points..they can make 6 or 7|pg||
nt|mikam1: That would make South's life easier|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: And it did|pg||
mb|p|nt|mdgraham: heart switch for a club ruff|pg||
nt|mikam1: However, this will (likely) be set after this lead, heart ace, club ruff and no miraculous guess by declarere|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|nt|tez: akqx ax xxx aqxx|pg||
nt|mdgraham: well, this might clatter a few off|pg||
nt|pef: yes, 1nt will not be a happy contract|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|mikam1: Ah...Moss must have read the club signal as suit preference|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg||
nt|mikam1: Which is not unreasonable|pg||
nt|pef: seems like most routes lead to down 2|pg||
pc|cK|nt|tez: i think Radin must give suit preferance here|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg||
nt|mikam1: NOW...better play a heart...and she did|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dA|nt|tez: because she is sure partner leading for ruff|pg||
nt|mikam1: I agree|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|dK|nt|mikam1: Declarer really did have a chance there...playing a spade to the ace was a true possibility|pg||
pc|s3|pc|h4|pc|d6|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o91|st||md|1SA5HQJ74DJ542CAK9,SJ63HAT95DAT6C876,SQT872H63DKQ9C543,SK94HK82D873CQJT2|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|an|spades|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yuval10: @c lead looks best here|pg||
mb|p|pc|c8|nt|psyck: other suits were not tempting anyway|pg||
nt|paulg:  but eight tricks on the normal spade guess|pg||
nt|yuval10: if declarer guess the @s's right, E might need to play 4th @c, so W will ruff with the J and promote E's 9|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
nt|yuval10: 2@h, 1@d, 1@c, 2@s for the def.  but they need to cash the @h's first|pg||
nt|yuval10: well, no need for that now|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
nt|yuval10: why E switched to @h is beyond me|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s9|nt|paulg:  i'm tempted to say that the players are getting a little tired, but the losers of this match get to continue playing|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|d5|nt|paulg:  good play by Bernstein|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c91|st||md|1SA5HQJ74DJ542CAK9,SJ63HAT95DAT6C876,SQT872H63DKQ9C543,SK94HK82D873CQJT2|sv|o|nt|mikam1: then back to dummy (ruffing a good diamond) for a spade off and a guess|pg||
nt|mikam1: But not easy...she didn't know where the heart ace was|pg||
nt|pef: strange sprung didn't continue diamonds there|pg||
nt|pef: but I guess she wanted to make sure I was wrong in my prediction :)|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|mikam1: In the old days, not everyone would overcall 1N with 15...now it's commonplace|pg||
mb|p|nt|mikam1: Although that doesn't make it correct :)|pg||
nt|mikam1: It does get your hand off your chest|pg||
mb|p|pc|c8|nt|mdgraham: was just getting a beer from the fridge - only one off?|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|nt|mdgraham: and everybody adds two points for their declarer play anyway|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|mikam1: yes :)|pg||
nt|tez: interesting 10 of @s|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|mdgraham: this would be more interesting with @sQ109xx in dummy|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s9|pg||
nt|mdgraham: as the best line then is ace and then low to the queen |pg||
nt|mdgraham: picks up Jx offside - all the 3-3 breaks are just guesses|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|tez: declare played 9.he must have 8|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|mikam1: yes, "interesting" :)|pg||
nt|tez: she sry|pg||
nt|mdgraham: and as suggested, under the ace East should play the 9|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg||
nt|mikam1: The big problem with overcalling light there is when the opponents have the bulk of the points...you can get doubled and be in trouble|pg||
nt|tez: now end play coming|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|h4|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg||
nt|mikam1: Of course, when partner has 7, no worries|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|nt|tez: give @h|pg||
pc|h5|nt|mikam1: Well done by declarer|pg||
nt|pef: yes it was only one down.  it's been a long event (and will be even longer for the loser of this match) and we may be seeing some tired play|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o92|st||md|2SAK8HJT4DJ63CQT95,SQ7652HAKQ3D74C87,S43H9852DQT5CAKJ3,SJT9H76DAK982C642|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfk: Migry:  if you don't bid, I don't bid|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg||
nt|paulg:  West's opening pass has not worked out here, a lot of people would open the hand|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|d5|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|mc|7|pg||
qx|c92|st||md|2SAK8HJT4DJ63CQT95,SQ7652HAKQ3D74C87,S43H9852DQT5CAKJ3,SJT9H76DAK982C642|sv|n|nt|mdgraham: indeed, quite forgivable|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2H!|nt|pef: at this point the sprung team would like to see something other than a bunch of part score hands|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 2@h=good raise to 2@s|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 2@S would be the same without the ace of diamonds  |pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|pef: interesting comment on modern bridge.  opening bid on your left, t/o double by partner, good raise on your right and you have what might be the best hand at the table or cloe to it|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: The Moss squad won a game swing on board 70, where Radin opened 2N with 19...at the other table after a 1@C opener...|pg||
pc|hA|nt|pef: 3nt seems like a lot, but given the state of the match, understandable|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|nt|mikam1: NS preempted and made it tough to get to 3N|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|mikam1: South had a difficult lead problem here|pg||
nt|tez: why not @d lead|pg||
nt|mdgraham: just goes to show what a bidder's game this is|pg||
pc|hK|nt|mdgraham: you get used to it in today's game|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h6|nt|mikam1: She didn't want to lead into declarer's suit, but as partner's diamonds will probably be guessed by declarer anyway...|pg||
nt|mikam1: Probably was right |pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hQ|nt|mikam1: I think it would only have held it to 4 in anycase|pg||
pc|h8|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|nt|mikam1: This is a bit tricky for Radin...she's probably worried about trumps 4-1|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sK|pg||
nt|mdgraham: nowhere for @DAK to go|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o93|st||md|3SK94HQ5DK75CAKQ32,SA86HAK84DQJ84CJ6,SQ7532H72DA93CT94,SJTHJT963DT62C875|sv|b|nt|yuval10: 4 boards to go and 41 imps difference|pg||
nt|yuval10: looks like team Moss is on their way to become USA1|pg||
nt|paulg:  For latecomers, there was an appeal from the previous set which has given Moss an additional 12 imps|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|d|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|paulg:  1@c alerted as it is natural or balanced 17-19 points|pg||
mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|paulg:  NS play transfer responses to 1@c, so I'm surprised they do not transfer after the double|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|paulg:  but 3@H will be a transfer showing five spades|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|yuval10: bad contract, but will probably makes with the lucky @s spot|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d4|nt|Walddk2: So the real difference is 47 IMPs|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 4 boards to go|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sT|nt|Walddk2: The winner will be USA1 for the Venice Cup in October|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The loser will getg another chance in tomorrow's USA2 finals|pg||
nt|paulg:  Tough for the losers to keep going after this|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Well starting laqter today actually|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 2 segments today, 4 tomorrow|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|h6|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c93|st||md|3SK94HQ5DK75CAKQ32,SA86HAK84DQJ84CJ6,SQ7532H72DA93CT94,SJTHJT963DT62C875|sv|b|nt|mikam1: North would have been a trick better by not ruffing|pg||
nt|mikam1: and now..............a grand slam available to NS|pg||
nt|mdgraham: in two suits....|pg||
nt|mikam1: Yes|pg||
nt|tez: they have 1 more round|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: After 1@D-2@C and splinter by North...great chance to get there|pg||
nt|mdgraham: now what would 3@h be here....|pg||
mb|1C|mb|d|nt|mikam1: I would still splinter as North|pg||
nt|mdgraham: now surely 3@s by North|pg||
nt|mikam1: And South has a TREMENDOUS hand opposite that|pg||
nt|mikam1: I'd like to use larger capital letters, but my keyboard doesn't have them|pg||
nt|pef: four spades actually makes here, but you have to be really hungry to bid it|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|mdgraham: West has implied the majors, so 3@S should show shortage and good club support|pg||
nt|mikam1: In fact if I were playing "one-bid" I'd bid a grand now|pg||
nt|mdgraham: think doubling 3@S gives NS too much room - prefer 4@s|pg||
nt|mikam1: Imagine Kxxx of clubs and AKxx(x) of diamonds|pg||
nt|tez: now Miner knows points and distrubitions perfect for them|pg||
nt|tez: x xxx akxxx kxxx enuf:)|pg||
nt|mikam1: Exactly|pg||
nt|mdgraham: as 3@s implies 4-card support, South is well-placed to ask for aces...then possible 5NT for side kings|pg||
nt|mdgraham: 6@D to show the @DK and Bob is your Uncle|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|mdgraham: aww shucks|pg||
nt|mikam1: Not a good bid there by South|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Hey Mike!  My favorite partner :)|pg||
nt|mdgraham: There's a lot of room between 3@S and 6@c - why not use it?|pg||
nt|mikam1: She had lots of room...agreed|pg||
mb|p|nt|mdgraham: 3@D some form of checkback (guessing)|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mdgraham: Sprung is hungry|pg||
nt|pef: i guess they are famished :)|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h4|nt|mdgraham: that may cost 13 imps - we shall see|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|mdgraham: spade to the king ducked would be good, as North would have the option of A10 doubleton in East - but here is also West's double|pg||
nt|pef: the players don't see the running score, of course, but the sprung pair hasn't seen things go particularly well for them and must know they are considerably behind, especially with ...|pg||
nt|pef: the committee ruling|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg||
nt|mdgraham: blimey - Moss hungry at the other table too. What time's lunch?|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|s3|pc|h6|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s5|pc|h9|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|mdgraham: good attempt by West to promote the @S8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cJ|mc|10|nt|pef: just a routine push|pg||
nt|mdgraham: just another flat board |pg||
nt|pef: so 47 imps in three boards, that's going to need a lot of luck|pg||
pg||
qx|o94|st||md|4SA54HQ73D963CJ973,SQ876HJT5DT2CAT84,SJT92H96DAKQ75C52,SK3HAK842DJ84CKQ6|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfk: 3 more to go|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: Stansby:  well done, good guess   Migry:  no guess, I needed JT doubleton|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|paulg:  chances in hearts here, but game is poor and will probably go down|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|paulg:  West is not strong enough to bid spades and then support hearts, so makes a constructive raise|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The Moss team have been playing 4-handed all the way through. If they win (seems likely), they choose a pair to add and the USBF Board approves the pair or sends it to the USBF ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Credentials Committee if they have doubts |pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|hT|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|hJ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c94|st||md|4SA54HQ73D963CJ973,SQ876HJT5DT2CAT84,SJT92H96DAKQ75C52,SK3HAK842DJ84CKQ6|sv|o|nt|mikam1: In the other room Stansby-zur Campanile have been quite good on similar splinter auctions that I've seen|pg||
nt|mdgraham: mind you, to be fair, if North had a hand with only one ace, South wouldn't know which one it was |pg||
nt|mikam1: To be fair, perhaps Miner didn't have the right agreements in place|pg||
nt|tez: i have to go..ty all.enjoyed..thanks all:)|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|mikam1: yes, I just meant that it wouldn't cost if you were going to jump to 6 anyway Mike|pg||
nt|mdgraham: but as it was, she had two, so there would be no ambiguity|pg||
nt|mikam1: right|pg||
nt|mdgraham: bye Tezcan|pg||
nt|mikam1: No real cost if you were giving up|pg||
mb|d|mb|r!|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzff: So Mike, don't say hello!  My favorite partner :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Break|pg||
nt|mikam1: which Mike? If you mean me...Hello!!|pg||
nt|mdgraham: mind you, a confident 7@c may beget 7@S|pg||
nt|mikam1: I sort of doubt it though|pg||
pc|c3|nt|mdgraham: The Moss team have played well this set. Sprung only scored effectively on one board - the 6@d hand|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|mikam1: Saving against grands is not easy|pg||
nt|mikam1: with both vul anyway|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d8|nt|mikam1: This will do just fine|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|hT|pc|d5|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o95|st||md|1SJ9874HAJ4DQT3CT6,SK532HK853DAJ752C,SAQ6HT9D86CJ98743,STHQ762DK94CAKQ52|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|paulg:  i approve the bidding to this point|pg||
nt|paulg:  many play that 2@c denies a 4-card major, others would rebid a major on West's hand as not showing extra values|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|nt|yuval10: perhaps 4@h instead of 3, as you have a minimum and a @h void ( K@s isn't that useful as well )|pg||
nt|yuval10: a @c void of course|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Cold feet, no diamond cuebid, wise decision|pg||
pc|s7|nt|paulg:  some partnerships do not permit a jump raise in hearts, typically those who play that 2@c followed by 3@c is invitational|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg||
nt|paulg:  i feel that playing 2@c as game forcing is best (use 1@d-3@c as invite) and then a jump to 4@h certainly best|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h2|nt|Walddk2: On  a bad day you have 3 trump losers and go down in 4|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|d8|pc|h7|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|s5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|sK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|c7|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c95|st||md|1SJ9874HAJ4DQT3CT6,SK532HK853DAJ752C,SAQ6HT9D86CJ98743,STHQ762DK94CAKQ52|sv|n|nt|mikam1: 2 boards left here...still a nail-biter|pg||
nt|pef: and to be fair, this set has been considerablyl less big swing prone than the previous couple|pg||
nt|pef: seems like four hearts will be reached here|pg||
mb|p|nt|mdgraham: spotted|pg||
mb|1D|nt|mikam1: The winner of this match will be USA 1 in the Netherlands...to play for the Venice Cup|pg||
mb|p|nt|mdgraham: Is the Multi 2@D allowed in this event? |pg||
mb|2C|nt|mdgraham: missing pass by the look of it|pg||
mb|p|nt|pef: perhaps there is a pass we are missing?|pg||
nt|pef: ah, finally got one right!|pg||
mb|2H|nt|mikam1: The loser still has a chance|pg||
nt|mikam1: I think so|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mdgraham: it is amazing how many pairs over here treat 3@H as invitational in this sequence|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Gee, thanks :)|pg||
pc|hT|nt|pef: since the open room is also in 4h, let me be bold and congratulate the Moss team for a well-earned victory, particularly, as Mike pointed out, since they were only four people.  ...|pg||
nt|pef: I'm going to be US centric and wish them victory in the Venice Cup!|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|mdgraham: because you will probably be coming up against much worse....|pg||
nt|mikam1: 2N was a force and 3@H = 4 trumps with a minimum|pg||
nt|mikam1: for sure...but around here you're even allowed to look at your defenses|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h4|nt|mikam1: Note the very light opener by Moss...and not much thought of slam by Radin|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c9|nt|mikam1: on the same wavelength - a good thing to be :)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
nt|mdgraham: I'll keep a rain check on that until I know if England qualify or not :)|pg||
nt|pef: also, before I forget.  thanks to my fellow commentator, Mike Graham, particularly for his cross-cultural insights and elevation of the general level of discourse|pg||
pc|c3|nt|pef: and our hard-working vugraph operator|pg||
nt|pef: and thanks of course to bbo and USBF for making this possible.|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: :)|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s5|nt|mdgraham: and also to our specs and their contributions |pg||
pc|s6|pc|h7|nt|pef: the Sprung team, after a dinner break, will resume play in about 2 hors and 15 minutes against the winner of|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|s7|nt|pef: the Joel Westheimer match to see who becomes USA2|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o96|st||md|2SKQ854HJ54D6CQJ62,S962HQ976D942CK94,S3HA832DAJ873CA83,SAJT7HKTDKQT5CT75|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: Last board of the match|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Congratulations to Sylvia Moss, Judi Radin, Migr Zur Campanile and JoAnna Stansby|pg||
nt|yuval10: Moss team will be USA1 |pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: Thanks for being here and thanks to the commentators.  congrats to the Moss team.  Congrats as well to Sprung who put up a very good fight.  They will continue to play for USA2, ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: starting in about 2and 1/4 hours from now|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|Walddk2: Thanks to Joe Stokes, our terrific operator in Detroit|pg||
mb|1S|nt|yuval10: this is going to be bloody now|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|yuval10: P P X P P P|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: I prefer not to comment on 1@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Because if I did I might have to bar myself|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: Migry:  Never a dull moment|pg||
pc|d6|nt|yuval10: well it solved many problems for N here, especially the rebid problem over P's 1@s ( probably 2@d )|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
nt|yuval10: otherwise of course it's a speculative bid, probably was made considering the state of the match|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|nt|Walddk2: 300 against nothing the likely result|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d4|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 500 I mean|pg||
nt|yuval10: yes|pg||
pc|h4|nt|paulg:  it will be quickly lost in the wash up as they score|pg||
pc|h6|nt|yuval10: again plus score for your side|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hT|pg||
nt|yuval10: *against|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|s5|pc|d9|pg||
nt|paulg:  they will be past caring when they get to the final board|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Sprung vs Joel in the finals for the USA2 berth|pg||
nt|Walddk2: First segment in 2 hours and a bit|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|sQ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s6|mc|5|nt|Walddk2: Thanks all and bye for now|pg||
nt|paulg:  Thanks Joe, great job.|pg||
nt|yuval10: thanks all|pg||
pg||
qx|c96|st||md|2SKQ854HJ54D6CQJ62,S962HQ976D942CK94,S3HA832DAJ873CA83,SAJT7HKTDKQT5CT75|sv|e|nt|mdgraham: looks like both teams will have all to play for in the last segment|pg||
nt|mdgraham: it will need considerable mental fortitude. Wipe this match and start again. Not easy at all |pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|pef: yes, this match has been close since the end of the third segment, with many lead changes|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|c9|nt|mikam1: This is down at least 1...good non-diamond lead by South|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|s3|nt|mikam1: NS will still be hard pressed not to be forced to lead diamonds|pg||
nt|mdgraham: always a problem, that kind of East hand - you have a good hand, but poor suit - still, letting the opps play 1NT looks a bit wimpish |pg||
pc|s7|pc|sK|nt|mikam1: In fact, I'm not sure that declarer can't time this just right in any case|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg||
nt|mdgraham: seems a bit of a downer to finish with a 1NT contract |pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg||
pc|d9|nt|mikam1: Well on this lie of the cards 1N was going to do ok anyway, so not a big deal |pg||
nt|mikam1: South doesn't want to play anything :)|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg||
nt|mikam1: but I like that play|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|nt|mdgraham: the OR seems a bit behind -the hands must be more difficult in there|pg||
pc|s6|pc|d3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|nt|mikam1: If partner had the diamond 8, this would be best|pg||
pc|s2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|mikam1: and it avoided a real disaster |pg||
nt|mdgraham: thanks all, bye for now|pg||
nt|mikam1: bye - thanks Mike, Gary|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: At 1:30|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c3|nt|mdgraham: four-card overcall met trouble next door|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c6|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h5|nt|pef: not the best time for a four card suit overcall in the open room.  a surprising 500 for the moss team to increase their margin|pg||
mc|7|nt|mdgraham: Thanks all.|pg||
nt|pef: bye|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: :)|pg||
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