vg|2011 USWBC USA2 SF,Segment 2 of 6,I,17,32,Joel,9,Westheimer,30|
rs|4SN+1,5CWx-2,4SNx=,4SNx+1,4HE+2,4HW+2,4SN-1,4SS=,2DW+1,4DW-1,3SE=,2HN-1,2HS-2,3CE-1,3NW+1,3NW+1,3NS+1,3NS=,4HW=,3NW=,6HSx-2,5HSx-1,4SW=,4SW=,3SS+1,4SS=,2HS=,3HS-1,4SW=,4SW=,4DW+1,2HNx-2|
pn|JOEL,QUINN,SOKOLOW,BREED,Pollack,Rosenberg,Bjerkan,Molson|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3SKQ8H954D98654CA2,S952HQJ2DQCKQ9763,SJ7643HADAKJT3CJT,SATHKT8763D72C854|sv|o|nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3C|nt|roswolf: do we know the systems?|pg||
mb|3D|mb|3H|nt|roswolf: bold bid by west|pg||
nt|drg: The women in this event are not shy bidders|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: indeed no chance to go overboard|pg||
nt|roswolf: slam might be bid and may make on another day|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s8|mc|11|pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3SKQ8H954D98654CA2,S952HQJ2DQCKQ9763,SJ7643HADAKJT3CJT,SATHKT8763D72C854|sv|o|nt|Walddk1: Hello Jo Anne and Raija|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|peachy: Good afternoon everybody|pg||
mb|2S|an|!|nt|Walddk1: North has an   -n    at the end, operator. Bjerkan|pg||
nt|casenjo:  hi welcome back|pg||
mb|3C|nt|peachy: If you'd like to watch both tables (or multiple tables) simultaneously, click http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or,   http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
mb|4S|nt|peachy: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=34&Itemid=352  Results top left.  Click "Teams entered", then click player's name to get System Summary for any pair.|pg||
mb|5C|nt|casenjo:  Nice bid by Janice Seamon-Molson|pg||
nt|peachy: Bjerkan-Pollack play Precision so 1S limited to 15|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Bjerkan must shif to the Ace of @H to beat this the max|pg||
nt|peachy: South was not tempted to bid on, understandably|pg||
pc|s3|nt|santyclz: Hi folks.|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
nt|santyclz: @d lead would have been inspired.|pg||
pc|d9|nt|casenjo:  It appears Rosenberg will go -300 against 450 in the other rom|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|c5|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cA|mc|9|pg||
qx|o18|st||md|4SATHQ3DJ632CKJT53,S972HJT9762DQ95CQ,SQJ8643HDT8CA9762,SK5HAK854DAK74C84|sv|n|nt|roswolf: 6@D would be a decent shot if down in the last set|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm scope for some grief here|pg||
nt|roswolf: n/s mustnt get carried away|pg||
mb|1H|nt|drg: 1@H-p-4@H-4@S?|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|nt|roswolf: or 4nt aby north and wriggle into 5@C or even 6@C|pg||
mb|4S|nt|drg: the oppsotion bidding will make finding the club fit difficult, and stop them from getting carried away|pg||
mb|d|nt|roswolf: DANGEROUS FOR E/W|pg||
nt|drg: why go past 4@S r/w ?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d2|nt|roswolf: club lead?|pg||
nt|drg: Breed will not be happy to see the Ax@S on her left, and less happy when the A@H gets ruffed|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d8|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup some good cheer for team joel|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|s3|pg||
nt|roswolf: east may be chastened - by doubling she insulted north who was vul|pg||
nt|drg: If north had held a heart, it would be discardable now|pg||
nt|roswolf: nice 990 with the overtrick|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s6|nt|roswolf: no overtrick|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|drg: odd choice, the K@S was clearly onside and the overtrick is quite valuable|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup playing "safe"|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|s9|pg||
nt|roswolf: claimsville|pg||
nt|drg: had west actually held a club void, they would be risking going down by conceding the the K@S|pg||
nt|roswolf: fair point david|pg||
nt|drg: Joel team found a sacrifice worth 4 imps on the first board|pg||
nt|roswolf: declarer deciding who to play for a void!?|pg||
nt|roswolf: the comeback starts|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: north sweating|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: looks uncertain|pg||
nt|roswolf: because of the double if anyone was void it would be east|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg||
mc|10|nt|drg: west has shown up with 3 spades 3 diamonds and 5 hearts, cannot hold 3 clubs|pg||
nt|roswolf: well a 5imp loss for north - you need to know when to finesse at this level|pg||
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qx|c18|st||md|4SATHQ3DJ632CKJT53,S972HJT9762DQ95CQ,SQJ8643HDT8CA9762,SK5HAK854DAK74C84|sv|n|nt|casenjo:  Cheri Bjerkan did not find the maximum defense and failed to get her heart ruff for 500 and a good start for Joel|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|santyclz: The hand was played by n in the other room which gave an overtrick on the @h opening lead.|pg||
mb|4H|nt|santyclz: For those new to BBO:  Hover your mouse over the other room score to show a pop-up of the bidding there.|pg||
nt|peachy: Both sides can take ten tricks, looks like, now Bjerkan in the hot seat|pg||
mb|4S|mb|d|nt|santyclz: Even many modern players would pass e's hand.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|chessmaste: Not everyone likes to overcall 1@D with a natural 2@D - sometimes East really has diamonds.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|nt|peachy: since the @S fnesse is on, if it is taken, 11 tricks|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|bigtrain: e/w are playing precision|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|nt|santyclz: Hi Mark, Walter.|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@D is best played as natural over nebulous @D|pg||
nt|chessmaste: Even in Precision they are allowe to have diamonds|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s2|pg||
nt|bigtrain: when you're looking at 6, the chances fall dramatically :)|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|chessmaste: In any event N/S should go plus for a useful pickup|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|chessmaste: It will be sometime before declarer scores a trick|pg||
nt|santyclz: Or even plays to one.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|s8|pc|h4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h5|pc|d2|pc|s9|pg||
mc|11|nt|casenjo:  cannot blame for doubling this auction|pg||
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qx|o19|st||md|1SAT542HDQ8753CT73,SQJ3HAKQTDAJTCQ86,S9876H6532DK642CK,SKHJ9874D9CAJ9542|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|roswolf: true david|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|roswolf: e/w playing strong club?|pg||
mb|1N!|nt|Vugraphzfj: no std club|pg||
mb|d!|nt|roswolf: hmm another slam hand which if left to their own devices e/w would surely bid|pg||
nt|roswolf: ty mary|pg||
mb|2C|nt|drg: The slam is worse than a finesse, and if you find out the K@C is missing, you would not want to bid it|pg||
nt|roswolf: the intervention may screw things up|pg||
nt|drg: the intervention may also cause you to misguess the clubs if they are trump|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: asking questions back and forth|pg||
nt|drg: if hearts trump, souths void will come to light and you will guess the club|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: slow reach to bidding box by breed, uncharacteristic so far|pg||
mb|3C|nt|roswolf: hmm in match high level bridge slams on finesses need to be bid! - especially if they make!:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|nt|drg: it's worse than a finesse with the T@C missing|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: i'm with you, lost 17 team games on baaaaaaaaaaaaad slams :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: when 12 tricks make e/w will be gutted at missing it methinks|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|nt|drg: Other room in 4@H with no intervention|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|roswolf: that suprises me|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h7|nt|roswolf: surprises|pg||
mc|13|nt|drg: seems the 4-0 trump break would stop them from making 7|pg||
nt|roswolf: abd the cashing @SA|pg||
nt|drg: I guess you could ruff 2 diamonds, but I can't imagine doing that before testing clubs|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: my connection is stopped|pg||
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qx|c19|st||md|1SAT542HDQ8753CT73,SQJ3HAKQTDAJTCQ86,S9876H6532DK642CK,SKHJ9874D9CAJ9542|sv|e|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|chessmaste: The defenders lost their way in the other room|pg||
nt|casenjo:  both 6 hearts and 6@C make; do you want to be there off an Ace and the King of @C|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|santyclz: To see how a board was played at the other table, click "Movie", then "(other) Room", |pg||
nt|santyclz: then highlight the board you wish to review by clicking on it and click the "Next" button to step though the play.|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|santyclz: Hmmm, this doesn't look like their best possible contract...|pg||
nt|chessmaste: Passing now would not be absurd|pg||
nt|peachy: Maybe if desperate, but I dont think EW desperate at this point|pg||
nt|peachy: 4C looks natural, but I don't know if it is|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|nt|santyclz: That makes the pass by s more reasonable.|pg||
mb|4H|an|1 or 4 of 6|mb|p|nt|chessmaste: 2NT - I'll let you off the hook because I'm vulnerable |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|peachy: Play will present no real problem, even though trumps are 4-0|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|d5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|nt|casenjo:  no one got excited on this hand, 4@H is the contract in the other room|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|d7|pg||
nt|peachy: If you'd like to watch both tables (or multiple tables) simultaneously, click http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or,   http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|peachy: Open a bew window for each table|pg||
nt|peachy: new*|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|chessmaste: He may as well cash out for one down. I was hoping they would play 2@D doubled - an interesting contract|pg||
pc|s6|pc|c2|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s7|nt|santyclz: Not playing 2@dx'd seems to be the theme of this session.|pg||
pc|c4|pc|sT|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2SA752HK98D75CAJ98,S4HAQJ42DAQJ9C764,SKQ96HT6DKT83CKT3,SJT83H753D642CQ52|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfj: think ok now|pg||
nt|roswolf: THIS IS TRICKY IF N/S TRY GAME|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|drg: Likely to bid it now|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: i agree, either 2h or 4s|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|drg: Don't think there are enough tricks to make any game with spades not breaking|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: king hearts looks like toast|pg||
nt|drg: unless west leads a heart at some point for some reason|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup maybe south will devalue her hand|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: i think 3s is plenty|pg||
nt|drg: not for a vulnerable game, their partner doesn't have to have an aceless 11 with no singleton|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|roswolf: vul games are bid on dust these days|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|nt|roswolf: overboard now|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|drg: with north on play, will be down quickly|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pg||
nt|roswolf: may well be flat though|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg||
nt|drg: the 4@D seems an odd choice whether playing standard or upside down carding|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: i checked carefully|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
nt|drg: declarer may be able to make now by ruffing 2 diamonds and finding the Q@C|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|h2|pg||
nt|drg: don't have the entries for it anymore|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h4|nt|drg: ruff and return trump|pg||
pc|hT|nt|Vugraphzfj: breed fondles cards|pg||
nt|drg: I suppose ruff and play anything will do, will always score either a red trick or the J@S|pg||
nt|roswolf: well ruffing and a trump is obvious and good|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: breed looks a bit confused, previous hand asked for a review etc|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm does not augur well|pg||
nt|drg: the trump back would actually fail if the trick could be won in either hand by squeezing west, but north must win the trick and west can discard a heart|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|s9|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|s5|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hK|mc|9|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2SA752HK98D75CAJ98,S4HAQJ42DAQJ9C764,SKQ96HT6DKT83CKT3,SJT83H753D642CQ52|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|santyclz: 4333 11 count, barely worth a limit raise.|pg||
nt|peachy: Invite, force, or go to game choices|pg||
mb|4S|nt|chessmaste: 3@D - Bergen raise probably |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|chessmaste: They led a club against 4@S, but North never got a ruff|pg||
nt|santyclz: In spite of the open room result, 3@s seems normal to me with qj- aceless hand.|pg||
nt|peachy: Considering vullnerability, I liked Pollack's choice|pg||
nt|peachy: tricky lead! Escellent, put decclarer on a guess right now, though she actually has no choice |pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
nt|peachy: but to play K|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|h4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d8|pc|h7|pc|hK|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3S9532H8632DA5CAJ9,SJ87HKDKJ9863CKT5,SQ64HAQT54DT4CQ84,SAKTHJ97DQ72C7632|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: another hand of interesyt|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|nt|roswolf: weak!?|pg||
nt|drg: 4th seat|pg||
nt|drg: I would throw that hand in personally|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: around here in 4th seat we play 10-13 hcp|pg||
nt|drg: short in both majors, no aces, singleton king|pg||
nt|drg: nothing really going for it|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: north deterred by the red bars|pg||
nt|roswolf: south shouldnt protect with that junk|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: south thinks and fondles cards|pg||
nt|drg: south knows their partner has about 10 points and at least 1 4cd major, but as all of the N/S suits split, they don't do very well|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: 4s made at other table last board|pg||
mb|p|pc|s4|pc|sA|nt|roswolf: ouch westheimer sprinting away|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg||
mc|9|nt|roswolf: maybe some imps for the plus score|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: i think i got the diamonds right on last play........very surprising duck of 10|pg||
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qx|c21|st||md|3S9532H8632DA5CAJ9,SJ87HKDKJ9863CKT5,SQ64HAQT54DT4CQ84,SAKTHJ97DQ72C7632|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|casenjo:  In the other room North declared board 20, so East was able to lead a heart thru for down 1|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|peachy: Last hand was played from N in the other table so 2 H, 1 D and 1 S to lose|pg||
mb|1N|mb|2H|nt|casenjo:  It is often important to have the big hand on lead, this is one reason for the transfer bids over takeout doubles becoming popular|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
nt|peachy: This will have to drift one off|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SA8HJT753DA86CQ73,SQJ32HA982DT9CT86,ST75HQ4DJ754CKJ92,SK964HK6DKQ32CA54|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|roswolf: a quieter board|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|roswolf: east will pass surely|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: east bites finger|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: itis a grotty 15 count|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|drg: If you invite on the west cards, you should not accept on minimums with no spots and no 5 card suits|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|drg: even though 4 can be made here on a non club lead with a very odd play in diamonds of running the T, the hand is very friendly|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|s2|pc|d7|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes the result merchants would say a mere finesse was needed and chortle away with their ill gotten gain|pg||
pc|h8|nt|drg: west also opened the last hand in 4th seat, but they got overboard and got to the 4 level|pg||
nt|drg: in the other room|pg||
pc|c2|pc|s4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d3|nt|roswolf: LOSER ON LOSER PLAY|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: nice play|pg||
pc|h7|nt|drg: will ruff with north following, at least if south doesnt|pg||
nt|roswolf: but wont gain an extra trick here|pg||
pc|s3|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|h9|nt|roswolf: a safe line for 9|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: thought it was pretty :)|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|hT|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|mc|9|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SA8HJT753DA86CQ73,SQJ32HA982DT9CT86,ST75HQ4DJ754CKJ92,SK964HK6DKQ32CA54|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|2C!|nt|casenjo:  one suiter|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|an|!|mb|p|nt|peachy: EW play variable NT's, this eat and vulnerability it is 14-16|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|peachy: *seat|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Good evening to Bill Frisby|pg||
pc|dK|nt|athene: hi good evening everyone|pg||
nt|peachy: Hello Bill, good to have you here|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg||
nt|athene: i would be wanting to double 2@H for takeout with east if it's likely to end the auction|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Thanks.|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|mc|7|nt|athene: i was intrigued by the NS auction - i just checked the convention card and 2@C showed 3+ clubs and a 5-card major|pg||
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qx|o23|st||md|1SKQJ8HK8532DK3CQ2,SAT63HT74DA987CK8,S92HJ96DQJT6CT973,S754HAQD542CAJ654|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|drg: e/w will want to not get overboard here, their hands don't fit very well|pg||
nt|drg: if north passes, they might|pg||
mb|1N!|nt|drg: if north bids, they may not|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|roswolf: no north bids "strongly"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: and this hand is why i play flannery with my reg p|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: but e/w might protect over 2@H|pg||
mb|2H|nt|drg: 3@C might go down a lot|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: they must know they are still up|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|drg: declarer given a chance to win the 9@S here|pg||
nt|drg: to lead a heart|pg||
nt|drg: that would be a very good start for her|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: cheap|pg||
nt|roswolf: n/s have "stolen"the partscore but they might soon wish they hadnt|pg||
nt|drg: on a different lead, they definitely would wish they hadn't|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: 9 cannot be wrong|pg||
pc|s2|nt|roswolf: true|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: finally i'm right :)|pg||
nt|drg: club leads by the defence will make wests trump holding very strong|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: back to diff lead :)|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|roswolf: setting up the side suit -all very normal|pg||
nt|drg: just trying to get to the dummy|pg||
nt|drg: defence wasn't going to let her discard a club|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: wasted chance|pg||
nt|roswolf: as well:)|pg||
nt|drg: any club is best|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: shudda ducked ace d|pg||
pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|h7|nt|roswolf: hmm that is probably true too:)|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|roswolf: not looking good now|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|d4|nt|roswolf: i fancy -2|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|roswolf: tp wd|pg||
nt|roswolf: trump promotion|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|cT|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: i did not see the card declarer played to the first d trick, guessed, maybe it was small|pg||
nt|roswolf: partscore swing to the leaders|pg||
mc|6|nt|roswolf: team joel need a rot stopper immediately otherwise they will lose sight of the opps|pg||
nt|roswolf: 48 imps is a huge lead at this stage and more importantly they dont look like getting a swing|pg||
nt|drg: Momentum is a big thing|pg||
nt|drg: and Westheimer has it|pg||
nt|roswolf: are we still live???????????|pg||
nt|drg: Doesn't seem like it|pg||
nt|roswolf: apparently the players are taking a break|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: back, but players want to know other room players plz|pg||
pg||
qx|c23|st||md|1SKQJ8HK8532DK3CQ2,SAT63HT74DA987CK8,S92HJ96DQJT6CT973,S754HAQD542CAJ654|sv|b|nt|athene: 2@H pass or correct i imagine|pg||
nt|athene: you have to treat these bids as natural for the purposes of doubling|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|athene: maybe it's more important at MP for EW to get into their spade fit|pg||
nt|athene: but still could easily have been a double partscore swing rather than just 3 imps|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|santyclz: 5332, vul -- 1@h seems enough.|pg||
mb|3C|nt|chessmaste: 2@D looks like a Multi|pg||
nt|chessmaste: Not one I would commend|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yep  2@D = weak major in ALL seats|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|chessmaste: Well, they are a level lower - sometimes that is worth a point ot two|pg||
nt|santyclz: Fortunately s eschewed the "automatic" bump to 3 with 3 card support.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg||
nt|peachy: S must not touch hearts to set this, as we can see Dbl dummy|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|h6|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|h9|pc|d2|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2S863HAQD874CQT954,SJH754DKQ3CAKJ862,ST974HKJ82DT652C3,SAKQ52HT963DAJ9C7|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|roswolf: rosenberg/molson + bjerkan/pollack|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: yawn a coffee hand|pg||
nt|drg: 10 easy tricks with hearts blocked|pg||
nt|drg: can take 11 if defence doesn't take first 3 with the club finesse|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d3|nt|drg: but given you can't take 9 before you take the club finesse, it is unlikely to be taken|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|h4|nt|drg: The T@D is a very odd choice from T6xx|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|c2|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|roswolf: hmmm very odd|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h5|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s5|pc|c5|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg||
pc|dA|nt|roswolf: she has a count|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: ok, that was it, the glare is terrible with the sun coming in, can't see 2 hands sometimes|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2S863HAQD874CQT954,SJH754DKQ3CAKJ862,ST974HKJ82DT652C3,SAKQ52HT963DAJ9C7|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|santyclz: Another weak 2 that not everybody would make.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does it help you judge the range of the bid?   :)|pg||
nt|santyclz: Although in the open room Jacobus made the same bid.|pg||
mb|1S|nt|chessmaste: Your suit is poor, you have four cards in the other major and a first round control - that looks like three flaws. Most players will accept two, but three is perhaps too many|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: DBL = penalty|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: diplomats would say   non-optimal at this level|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|nt|santyclz: Please, be precise:  sub-optimal.|pg||
nt|athene: should be a boring 3nt +1|pg||
nt|peachy: A common way to play this type of hand is that 2D is forcing, 2H is not|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|peachy: but matter of agreements|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: hang on    grabbing my thesaurus    |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|athene: EW play 1@C - 2@D is 5@S4@H weakish|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
nt|athene: so it's fine for 2@H to be forcing - responder is never stuck|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg||
nt|peachy: Good striucture|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg||
nt|peachy: minor over minor WJS (or even SJS) is not that useful|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s2|nt|santyclz: This is going to be esxpensive for Woolsey.|pg||
nt|peachy: imo only...|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|c6|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|h7|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s5|pc|d8|pc|c8|nt|athene: another way to play this hand would be to claim 10 unless the @CQ is falling :) but it doesn't ever hurt to make the opps work a little|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3SAQ9HAQ2DA53CQJ54,SJT54HKDQT642C763,SKHJ865DJ987CAT98,S87632HT9743DKCK2|sv|e|nt|roswolf: this again looks straightforward|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: i guessed at the lead, changed my mind, then guessed again|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|nt|drg: declarer likely to take a lot of tricks on this lead|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: upside down carding i guess|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|drg: still has to lose the Q@D, so making 4|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3SAQ9HAQ2DA53CQJ54,SJT54HKDQT642C763,SKHJ865DJ987CAT98,S87632HT9743DKCK2|sv|e|nt|santyclz: Time to call for a smoke break, even if you don't smoke...|pg||
nt|athene: not only do you tire them out but you can also watch how they discard and maybe learn something useful for future hands|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: other rooms visible via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3rd/4th seat  1N=15-17|pg||
nt|athene: i.e. sometimes you might learn that one opponent tends to falsecard more than the other, or something like that |pg||
mb|1C|an|!|mb|p|nt|athene: of course i am sure all these players know each other's styles quite well anyway|pg||
mb|3C|an|8+,4-4-4-1,bl sing|nt|ahollan1: 2@C=Puppet Stayman|pg||
nt|athene: strong club|pg||
nt|peachy: 1C = Precision 16+|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: in the bad old days, a strong 4-4-41 had to start by giving a negative|pg||
nt|athene: then people realised that was silly and it was better to just use some high-level response to show it|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|peachy: Do you know if 3C shows specific singl|pg||
nt|athene: now all the defence know about declarer's hand is it wants to play 3nt facing 1-4-4-4; so it probably won't have four hearts and it probably will have fairly robust spades, but ...|pg||
nt|athene: other than that...|pg||
nt|peachy: looks that way|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: ah, ok, 3@C was 1-4-4-4 or 4-4-4-1|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
nt|peachy: I call for commentator coffee break :)|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d7|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|d8|pg||
nt|chessmaste: You would expect East to play a spade now |pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c9|nt|chessmaste: Now declarer does best to play low - well done|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|h4|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4SQ983HJ64DAQ5CQ73,SA74HA82DKJ63CAT4,ST62HT9DT974CKJ62,SKJ5HKQ753D82C985|sv|b|nt|roswolf: an imp to joel - the fightback begins!?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|drg: the friendly diamond position will see this home|pg||
pc|c3|nt|drg: whether decarer finesses or ruffs out the Q|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|nt|Vugraphzfj: thinking|pg||
nt|drg: the club seems fairly obvious|pg||
nt|roswolf: ah may be declarer has something else on her mind|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: like dinner?|pg||
pc|c9|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup |pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|10|nt|roswolf: and 1 more imp to the leaders|pg||
pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4SQ983HJ64DAQ5CQ73,SA74HA82DKJ63CAT4,ST62HT9DT974CKJ62,SKJ5HKQ753D82C985|sv|b|nt|santyclz: We seem to be back.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: yes, lost power needed extension cord to reach plug|pg||
nt|santyclz: This looks like a @s partscore.  If w gets too active though it could be "interesting".|pg||
nt|santyclz: To support our theme, it appears to be another good hand on which not to play 2@dx'd.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|santyclz: A good hand to go quietly.|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: normal enough to leave this in with a 4-3-3-3|pg||
pc|c2|nt|athene: partner should be fairly balanced as she could have bid another suit if she wanted|pg||
nt|athene: if she had bid only 2nt rather than 3nt then there is not the same guarantee, in standard methods|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|nt|athene: declarer's problem is that if she tries a diamond and guesses wrong, north can cash the clubs and south can signal for a diamond on the fourth|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|h8|nt|athene: so there would be no chance to fall back on the spade finesse|pg||
nt|athene: so she runs the hearts first just to see what happens - a pretty good general policy|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|h5|nt|peachy: yes, as long as declarer's hand is not in discarding trouble|pg||
nt|athene: there are lots of other intriguing possibilities such as throwing north in with a club|pg||
nt|athene: but you could look very silly if you e.g. cashed the @SAK to drop north's spades then threw her in|pg||
nt|athene: and she led a diamond to south's ace and south cashed the @SQ :)|pg||
pc|s3|pc|d6|pc|s6|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d5|nt|athene: ok, north has thrown TWO spades now so perhaps cashing one spade then exiting a club is a possibility|pg||
nt|athene: in fact i think it's more than a possibility - i think the discards suggest it quite strongly|pg||
pc|s4|nt|peachy: If you are in Windows version and would like to watch both tables (or multiple tables) simultaneously, click    http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or,      ...|pg||
nt|peachy: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|sK|nt|athene: it's usually a mistake to void yourself of a suit in notrump play|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cK|nt|athene: if deceiving declarer is at all an issue on the hand|pg||
pc|d2|pc|s9|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d8|nt|athene: ok, well done by Debbie Rosenberg|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o27|st||md|1S3HAKT642D9CQJ864,SAKJ7654H5DJ63C75,ST8HQJDK87542CK92,SQ92H9873DAQTCAT3|sv|o|nt|roswolf: the spades will win out as ususal on this hand|pg||
mb|1H|nt|drg: south will have to contend with many spades being bid at her second turn|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: slow pass by breed|pg||
nt|roswolf: not much to this really south must go quietly|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: south thinks|pg||
nt|drg: e/w make 11 tricks, N/S do alright in hearts or clubs though, 3 aces to lose|pg||
mb|4N|nt|Vugraphzfj: she tells quinn something|pg||
nt|roswolf: now that is feisty|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: director has been summoned...it's like this now|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm controversy|pg||
mb|5D|mb|5S|nt|drg: 5S is going to be bid at some point and is likely to end the auction regardless|pg||
nt|roswolf: but maybe it will be axed|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: joel bid 5h but my screen won't allow it...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: 5h then p then 6h double|pg||
mb|6H|nt|roswolf: implies some heart support|pg||
nt|drg: breed passed 5@D?|pg||
nt|roswolf: that does look odd|pg||
nt|roswolf: they are playing with or without screens?|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: nporth thinking!?about what!?|pg||
nt|roswolf: well this seems mysterious|pg||
nt|drg: Another good result for Westheimer in the closed room, N/S going only -100|pg||
nt|drg: which could be duplicated here|pg||
nt|drg: or even 50|pg||
nt|drg: but east may do something|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes but shouldnt east bid on to 5@S?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: i think breed bid before sokolow|pg||
nt|roswolf: AT WHAT STAGE?|pg||
nt|roswolf: well maybe then east is barred from bidding|pg||
nt|drg: more like west, but if there are screens, it probably shouldn't make a difference|pg||
nt|roswolf: agreed|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: director is here...we think 5s appeared after 5d before 5h, but no one saw it|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm that could be tricky|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: ok well 5 more imps to the leaders likely|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: director has ruled, 5h over 5s accepted|pg||
nt|drg: right, west didn't see it either and passed 5@H, so it was accepted|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: then 6h by sokolow, doubled|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: the 5s bid was invisible to me and joel, and it's the side close to me :)|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
nt|drg: 6@H is an interesting tactical move given you know if you pass east is about to bid 5@S again|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|h2|pg||
nt|roswolf: true|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s5|pc|d2|nt|Vugraphzfj: clubs played, then trumps finished|pg||
nt|roswolf: how many off -2?|pg||
mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfj: yes|pg||
pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1S3HAKT642D9CQJ864,SAKJ7654H5DJ63C75,ST8HQJDK87542CK92,SQ92H9873DAQTCAT3|sv|o|nt|athene: she will be a bit unhappy to find out that she couldn't have got the diamond guess wrong|pg||
nt|casenjo:  nicely played|pg||
nt|athene: she wanted north to have @DAQ|pg||
nt|athene: but i think with @DAQ north would have been able to let a diamond or two go earlier|pg||
mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: 1st/2nd non-vul  1N=10-12|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not for the squeemish|pg||
mb|3S|nt|athene: when she clings fanatically to four diamonds that suggests she just has 109xx - she would pitch one from the queen and two from the ace, probably|pg||
nt|athene: if she started with four|pg||
nt|casenjo:  Janice should love her hand on this auction|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|5C|mb|d|nt|athene: "6-5, come alive" or something|pg||
nt|peachy: NS do have paying sacrifice and S likely tries for it|pg||
mb|5H|mb|d|nt|chessmaste: I wonder if East's pass has any meaning?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if Bates DBL = was good hand   Stewart RDBL = some 1-suiter|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: and that is the route he took|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C forced  2@D to play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: pass would have ended the auction  and looks like race to 7 tricks|pg||
nt|chessmaste: He did well to follow that route - on this deal|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: interesting false preference there|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: i guess north decides that south is most likely exactly 6-5|pg||
pc|sK|nt|athene: with hearts two cards longer than clubs she would surely bid 4NT over 4@S|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s4|pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: if it goes 1N-DBL-end   what do you lead from West?|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|hT|pc|s6|pc|d4|pc|h9|pg||
nt|athene: if east has @CA10xx there is nothing you can do because she is going to duck if you lead the queen|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c2|nt|athene: (or the jack)|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|s7|pc|d5|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cK|nt|athene: maybe should unblock the @C9 there though just in case she does have and misdefended by capturing the jack|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2S98HA63D932CQT873,SKQT64H8754DAQ7CA,SHKQJDKJ865CK9652,SAJ7532HT92DT4CJ4|sv|n|nt|drg: 4@S making an excellent result for the Joel team here|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: director gone, everyone hungry i think :)|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|nt|roswolf: indeed a chance for a gain of some substance|pg||
nt|drg: N/S can make 5@C with the friendly diamond layout, barring a diamond ruff, and 4@S is defeatable by leading a diamond through before establishing the long heart|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
nt|drg: J@H at trick 2 better than the Q|pg||
nt|roswolf: but it seems to me that this will likely make|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg||
nt|drg: close to beating it anyway|pg||
nt|roswolf: a push|pg||
mc|10|nt|drg: north did best she could, the diamond switch seemed indicated|pg||
nt|drg: given south had QT@C over the J|pg||
nt|roswolf: true|pg||
pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2S98HA63D932CQT873,SKQT64H8754DAQ7CA,SHKQJDKJ865CK9652,SAJ7532HT92DT4CJ4|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C=10-15 HCP, 6+@C    2@D=relay  |pg||
nt|santyclz: Whew, I was afraid 2@c would end the auction.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@S = 6@C 5@S|pg||
pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: oops  i forgot they flip-flop response of 3@S & 3N|pg||
nt|athene: if north had treated her hand as 5-5 in the minors, rather than a t/o double, then maybe south would have found another 5@C bid|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: so 3N = 6+@C & 5@S   [3@S would show solid @C]|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ritong: other room the auction went 1@s 3@s 6@s, with a double by west in between|pg||
nt|ritong: the flop was not ok for this all in move|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|athene: south had better overtake the next heart and stick a diamond back|pg||
nt|peachy: S does not know of massive spadefit, can anticipate maybe 1 spade loser|pg||
nt|peachy: did not know during bidding|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: i wonder how close Stewart was to opening Strong 1@C|pg||
pc|h9|nt|chessmaste: Man overboard!|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: seems to me 5@S says   oops  i should have opened 1@C|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
nt|athene: north should lead the jack second time|pg||
nt|athene: make it a bit easier for partner to overtake|pg||
mc|10|nt|athene: now the diamond loser goes on the long heart|pg||
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qx|o29|st||md|3SQJT9642H74DJ9CQ7,S853H653DAK642CJ8,SK7HAKJ9D8CKT6432,SAHQT82DQT753CA95|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|roswolf: another seemingly tempting hand|pg||
nt|drg: Other table continued the Q@H, which made the defence even harder|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|2S|nt|roswolf: i would have bid 4@S AS south|pg||
nt|drg: 4@S likely to make if bid here|pg||
mb|3D|nt|Vugraphzfj: dangerous on possible misfit|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|roswolf: no misfit now|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|drg: opening trump lead would defeat it, but the ace of diamonds seems normal|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: what!!!!!!!!!!!!!|pg||
nt|drg: the south hand has a lot of losers|pg||
nt|roswolf: or a small club ducked|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: i'll check, told u the glare is bad|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg||
nt|drg: the only reason 4@S would make is because west has a natural diamond lead and the spade ace is bare|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|s7|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|c4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|c6|mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfj: yep, i got it right|pg||
nt|roswolf: another gain for westheimer!?|pg||
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qx|c29|st||md|3SQJT9642H74DJ9CQ7,S853H653DAK642CJ8,SK7HAKJ9D8CKT6432,SAHQT82DQT753CA95|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: always good to go down 2 when you're in 5   makes partner think 4 wasn't making|pg||
nt|athene: hard to believe this got passed out|pg||
nt|athene: everyone has a bid! :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Back from our break now.|pg||
nt|athene: welcome back :)|pg||
mb|2C|an|!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=2+|pg||
nt|peachy: Precision 2@C|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|athene: 2@S non-forcing but constructive for most precision-club-style pairs|pg||
mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: DBL = takeout    big surprise, right|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ok  BOTH   DBL were takeout|pg||
nt|peachy: 2@S forcing 1 round|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i wonder what difference would be for Wold   2@D vs RDBL|pg||
nt|athene: ah right ok|pg||
nt|athene: well clearly 3@H shows a good hand anyway|pg||
nt|peachy: aah, maybe not|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|athene: 4@S now|pg||
nt|peachy: well, card says it is F|pg||
nt|athene: trump lead, diamond back, trump?|pg||
mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: EW keep bidding @D    scary stuff|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: easy for us :)|pg||
nt|athene: so often you feel you probably ought to lead a trump but you decide to lay down just ONE top honour first to see dummy|pg||
nt|athene: and what you see is, yes, ya shouldda led that trump|pg||
nt|peachy: Garozzo's rule: Freely paraphrased:  You must have a good reason not to lead trump|pg||
nt|athene: the auction does suggest north might be ruffing diamonds|pg||
nt|athene: so i think a trump lead is not impossible to find|pg||
nt|athene: west might be a bit scared that if she leads trumps declarer might get the clubs going, but partner's job is to hold a nice big club card|pg||
nt|peachy: In this auction, N could be 5-4 though|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Long discussion with Rosenburg and N-S as to the meaning of N bids.|pg||
nt|athene: i am sure 2@C promises six|pg||
pc|dA|nt|athene: no-one plays it as 5+ any more|pg||
nt|athene: well, ok, some do, but not many|pg||
nt|peachy: I dont know their styule exactly but 5-4 is possible in addition to 6-3 and 6-4|pg||
nt|peachy: the way many play|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: It was described as 6-4 or cue.|pg||
pc|d8|nt|ritong: 660 other room|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Kit's 3@D ruled out that contract|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|pg||
nt|peachy: ok, I am behind the times then, no surprise there|pg||
nt|peachy: Thx Kathy|pg||
nt|athene: most strong club pairs these days give up a bit of definition on the 1@D opener in order to have 2@C promise six cards|pg||
nt|athene: so with e.g. 4M225@C they are opening 1@D|pg||
nt|athene: (or 1nt of course, hahaha)|pg||
nt|peachy: Perhaps some judgment allowed with a very sparkly club suit of 5 cards, I would assume|pg||
nt|athene: yes, @CAKQJ10 might decide that isn't a 1@D opener :)|pg||
nt|athene: not sure clubs can be sparkly though, can they?|pg||
nt|athene: only diamonds|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c8|nt|peachy: :)|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|athene: diamond ruff high, trump, the end|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|sK|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c5|nt|athene: @C5 hoping for a trump promo, but not today|pg||
mc|10|nt|peachy: Another demonstration of how big spots are useful|pg||
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qx|o30|st||md|4S8753HAK84DT82C82,SA64HJT7DA93CQJT3,SKQJH9532D654CAK4,ST92HQ6DKQJ7C9765|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|1D|nt|roswolf: yup 4@S made on the same defence|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d!|nt|drg: on a very different auction|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: in general|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|drg: The lead is getting out of hand, even with a lot of boards left|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: well n/s got stuck in there|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: we breakdinner in 20 min, back at 6|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|roswolf: 47-5 this set|pg||
nt|roswolf: so far|pg||
nt|drg: this one is easy with trumps breaking|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|c6|pc|h4|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4S8753HAK84DT82C82,SA64HJT7DA93CQJT3,SKQJH9532D654CAK4,ST92HQ6DKQJ7C9765|sv|o|nt|peachy: QJ109xx a different animal than QJxxxx|pg||
nt|athene: Molson will not be too hopeful - if declarer's trumps were susceptible to a trump promotion she would probably not ruff the diamond with the king|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|athene: would prefer to ruff low, lead king, and if that is allowed to hold, come to hand with heart ruff|pg||
mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal  17+ bal|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = non-force  denies 4@H/@S|pg||
mb|d|an|!|nt|athene: you sorta want to show both majors with that south hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|athene: normally if you are going to compete with a modest 44 majors you bid 1@S intending 2@H next|pg||
nt|athene: but south didn't really want to do that because she wants the heart lead|pg||
nt|athene: so if she started with 1@S and opps went into a fast 3nt or something, she would not feel so good|pg||
nt|peachy: Yes, this hand exception, also a consideration if partner reads you for 5S 4H|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|athene: the problem is now she has to bid 2@S|pg||
mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: i wonder how auction will go in other room    1@C[nat]-1@H//??   1N??|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: was not here at that time|pg||
nt|athene: but she feels ok, if partner didn't raise my hearts she should have four spades|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: it all comes down to how much the doubler needs just to make a "courtesy" raise|pg||
nt|athene: in the old days you needed a really big hand but the requirements are dropping steadily|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|athene: people prefer to just raise on anything if they have 4-card support|pg||
nt|athene: quite right too :) gotta get in there|pg||
nt|peachy: In competition (over the Dbl) even sttricter pdships allow raise with less if pure sort of hand|pg||
nt|athene: if north has a 17 count with 4 hearts she can surely redouble first or cue or something|pg||
nt|athene: i don't think 2@H over the double of 1@H should show the world|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
nt|athene: but anyway....the end result is that south has had to go a level higher than necessary|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg||
nt|athene: hearts often get pushed to the 3-level by troublesome spade competition - but it's a little embarrassing when it's you who supplied the competition|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: 3 boards missing from the movie - so dont believe this running total|pg||
nt|santyclz: A good start for declarer but it doesn't seem to be enough.|pg||
nt|ritong: reducing his trump losers to two would be good already|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in USA1 Final   Schwartz off to quick lead over Lynch  48-17   but that is a 90 board match|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ours is a 60 board match|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in Women's final  [96 board match]   Sprung 43  Moss 24 |pg||
pc|h6|nt|ritong: wow|pg||
nt|ahollan1: really?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: please Please tell us how|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|athene: maybe south should have doubled 2@C|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
nt|athene: to say "come on partner, i have 44 majors, we can't lie down to this silly contract"|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|c6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d6|mc|8|pg||
qx|o31|st||md|1S853H42DK65CKQJ97,SAK7642HKQ6DQ93C6,SJHAJT75DT842C532,SQT9H983DAJ7CAT84|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|drg: This one looks like a dull game hand|pg||
mb|1N!|nt|roswolf: very dull|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfj: yeah, down this much you want swings|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|drg: don't want to create them by getting to the 5 lvl on hands like this though|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|h5|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h4|nt|roswolf: true but no real danger of that though|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s7|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s6|pc|c3|pc|dJ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|h9|pc|c9|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|roswolf: a gain for joel on 30 3@H-1 in the other room|pg||
nt|roswolf: 4imps|pg||
mc|10|nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our bubbly operator Mary- Great Job! Our appreciation the USBF (Jan Martel) for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentator David for his company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
nt|drg: Last board coming up|pg||
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qx|c31|st||md|1S853H42DK65CKQJ97,SAK7642HKQ6DQ93C6,SJHAJT75DT842C532,SQT9H983DAJ7CAT84|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal or 18+ bal  [since 1N=15-17 in 3rd/4th]|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|peachy: E apparently on route to show 3-card limit raise|pg||
mb|4C|an|!|nt|ahollan1: 1N=game force  9 to  non-opener|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H natural AND ask  support/controls|pg||
nt|athene: she will just bid game now|pg||
nt|peachy: 2S changed the picture|pg||
nt|athene: if you bid 1nt intending to show a 3-card limit raise and partner rebids the major you generally just bid game|pg||
nt|athene: the more thin games you play the more you appreciate that nice ninth trump|pg||
nt|athene: not sure quite what 4@C is all about|pg||
nt|athene: maybe it's actually a 4@S bid :)|pg||
nt|athene: 4@C is alerted and explained as "i can't find my 4@S bid, but this will do, in a poor light"|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Long conversation about the 4C, but I couldn't read.|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|athene: ok a spectator suggests east might have thought west rebid 3@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|r|nt|athene: in which case 4@C would be a reasonable control bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: undo pls|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C at least @HQxx or @Hxxxx  0-2 controls  [A=2 K=1]|pg||
nt|santyclz: The next session is supposed to start in about 6 minutes, it may be delayed slightly.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@H undoubled :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: operator won't be able to lead from correct hand|pg||
nt|santyclz: Vg in your timezone: http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php  Make it your home page!|pg||
mb|4S|nt|athene: or maybe west DID rebid 3@S! :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: someday software will allow  insert pass instead of all undo|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: but i don't think so|pg||
nt|peachy: Kathy alerted 4C after the fact, surely then the bid was 4C|pg||
nt|athene: yes, i think east seeing 2@S as 3@S is the most likely explanation|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
nt|peachy: Kathy, our vugraph operator, that is :)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|athene: i thought they put bids on a tray though? in which case she would see it right the second time around|pg||
pc|s6|nt|santyclz: I doubt that's a high priority item on the release changes plan.|pg||
nt|ritong: mm|pg||
nt|ahollan1: all changes for vugraph  are way low on list|pg||
pc|h5|pc|sT|nt|athene: and might decide it was time to back off quickly so why bother to redouble?|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|athene: oh well, no harm done|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: will only happen when/if ported to flash version|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s7|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|peachy: Before I forget:   End of segment after Board 32.  Thanks to our hardworking operator Kathy Newman, to USBF/Jan Martel for  bringing this event to BBO, to co-commentators William ...|pg||
nt|peachy: Frisby/England and Jo Anne Casen/USA for their time and expertise, and finally to kibitzers, who are the sole reason of all shows. Hope you enjoyed!|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|nt|santyclz: Thanks all, bye for now.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s4|pc|c5|pc|h9|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s2|mc|10|nt|Vugraphzfc: Actually, I am Bill Landrum.|pg||
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qx|o32|st||md|2ST65H643D9765CA53,SJ42HAJ752D432C97,SKQ97HKQT98DKCJ84,SA83HDAQJT8CKQT62|sv|e|nt|drg: this could be an active one|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|drg: might also stop in 3@D|pg||
mb|2N|nt|drg: 2NT from east is plenty at these colours|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|roswolf: yup but can they stop in 3nt?|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: 2nt?|pg||
nt|drg: 3@H is a lot on the south cards|pg||
mb|3S|nt|Vugraphzfj: luv it|pg||
nt|drg: I like 3@S|pg||
nt|drg: may get them to 3N|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: 3s i mean|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|roswolf: 4@S on a 3-3 fit perhaps!?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|drg: the 3@S bid makes east distribution clear|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: duh|pg||
nt|drg: it can't be a suit, just a fragment|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: ok, dinner time, see you all at 6|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm passing 4@D is a very big position|pg||
nt|drg: passing 4@D is normal, west could have tried 3NT though|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s3|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfj: we don't day indeed enuff, really cool|pg||
nt|roswolf: i would have raised to game -all finesses through the opening bidder - if there's an entry of course!:)|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|d2|pc|cJ|pg||
mc|11|nt|roswolf: an opportunity for joel perhqaps:)|pg||
nt|roswolf: bye all for now|pg||
nt|drg: Thanks all. Bye for now|pg||
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qx|c32|st||md|2ST65H643D9765CA53,SJ42HAJ752D432C97,SKQ97HKQT98DKCJ84,SA83HDAQJT8CKQT62|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|peachy: Thank you to Bill then. Profile says "Kathy" sorry|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|nt|athene: ok we need an initial pass in here|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|peachy: Or perhaps it is all me haha|pg||
nt|athene: interesting that east makes a t/o double with 5530, as north did earlier|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: i am not sure i would be too happy about passing this with the west hand|pg||
nt|peachy: It is the 3-card spade "suit, not opposed to a spade contract|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|hK|nt|athene: i mean i you might well decide pass is the best choice but you aren't exactly ecstatic|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|h3|nt|athene: you are just hoping for a one-trick set|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|athene: you have weak trumps under the opener and no shortage|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d8|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
nt|athene: a spec says this auction is a bit funny - of course it was south who bid 2@H, not nortyh|pg||
nt|athene: not north|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Probably right.|pg||
nt|athene: north unlikely to raise a suit she has been doubled in :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: I have lost the line of play.  Will  give the results in a moment.|pg||
nt|peachy: NP|pg||
nt|athene: np, looking like two down|pg||
nt|peachy: could possibly drift to down three even, but two for sure|pg||
nt|peachy: Results here, once they get entered; look to the top left of the page http://usbf.org/|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfc: Down two.|pg||
mc|6|nt|athene: ok thanks all|pg||
nt|athene: a lot of interesting hands|pg||
nt|peachy: Thanks all. Next segment starts in just about two hours. See you back then :)|pg||
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