vg|2011 USWBC SF A,Segment 2 of 4,I,17,32,Moss,40,Joel,14|
rs|3NE+1,3NE+1,2DN-2,1NE+2,2SS+2,5DN+1,2NW-3,2NW-3,2SE=,2SE+2,3NN+1,2SE-2,5HSx-1,4HS+1,2DW-1,3CN-3,2SW+1,2SW=,1NN+2,2HW-1,3NS+2,3NS+1,5SW+1,4SW+1,2HW=,2SN-1,4SS-1,3CE=,2DSx-1,2SW+1,4SW+1,4SW+1|
pn|Stansby,Meyers,Migry,Levin,Joel,Moss,Sokolow,Radin|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3SK543HQT7DQ82CQ43,SQ9HAJ632DCKJT962,S872H54DAT764CA87,SAJT6HK98DKJ953C5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|Walddk6: Hello everyone and welcome back|pg||
nt|mikam1: Hi all - second quarter just starting|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: welcome all|pg||
nt|Walddk6: Your commentator is Mike Kamil|pg||
nt|Walddk6: Operator is Stan|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|Walddk6: also welc back to Michael Rosenberg|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|mikam1: Note the 2@D rebid...leaving room and making for a smooth auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk6: Joe Stokes is operating now, sry|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Now playing for the Joel team, one of the premier pairs in the world...Jill Levin, Jill Meyers|pg||
nt|mikam1: Levin, with all values in the pointed suits, chose 3N...unclear|pg||
nt|scotty: Not sure I understand 3N versus 4@H - but probably will be fine|pg||
pc|s3|nt|scotty: South knows spades are well held by E - but a spade lead doesn't give much away|pg||
nt|mikam1: Note the word "probably"|pg||
nt|mikam1: in Michael's analysis|pg||
nt|scotty: I use that a lot - when I make a definitive statement, I prefer it be accurate|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: Levin thinking|pg||
nt|mikam1: This hand is VERY difficult to play (and analyze)|pg||
nt|scotty: Most natural looks to win the spade in hand and lead a @c to the J|pg||
nt|mikam1: and when that wins....continue clubs?|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cJ|nt|scotty: IF it wins|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|scotty: then @cK, I suppose|pg||
nt|scotty: but might try @sQ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|nt|mikam1: as you said :)|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|hT|nt|mikam1: this won't hurt declarer|pg||
nt|mikam1: but a natural play by South|pg||
nt|scotty: East thinks declarer has a doubleton heart - so that is a natural shift|pg||
nt|mikam1: she didn't expect 3 hearts with declaree|pg||
nt|mikam1: declarer|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|c2|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||
pc|h9|nt|mikam1: closed room also in 3N - they made 4, so an imp to Moss I believe|pg||
nt|scotty: Same contract reached in the other room - bidding not given|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h6|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d7|pc|d5|nt|mikam1: oops - North should have kept a club on this layout|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|d9|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dQ|nt|mikam1: so - no swing|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o18|st||md|4SQ65HQ872DAKQCJ42,SKJ8HJT9D863CQT85,S942HA53DJT54C976,SAT73HK64D972CAK3|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|mikam1: all parties better off keeping quiet on this one|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|scotty: North looks at her "pefect" club holding and bids - but partner's holding is less than perfect....|pg||
nt|mikam1: 2@D will come to an unhappy end|pg||
pc|cA|nt|scotty: Still, it could have been worse - S might have been 4-4-2-3 these days|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c7|pg||
nt|mikam1: true|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg||
nt|mikam1: :)|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|mikam1: East will likely be forced to shift to a spade at some point...even if she won't like it |pg||
nt|mikam1: North is no doubt wondering, "Why the heck did I have to bid"?|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|mikam1: well done by Levin|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|c18|st||md|4SQ65HQ872DAKQCJ42,SKJ8HJT9D863CQT85,S942HA53DJT54C976,SAT73HK64D972CAK3|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: none of the pairs submitted convention cards :(|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hackenbush: 14-16 NT for EW|pg||
pc|h2|nt|barnets: hi all|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|peachy: Hi Barnet|pg||
pc|hA|nt|hackenbush: should make easily, 4 clubs a heart and 2+ spades|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|henryb:  Interesting that Peter chose not to open 2@s in 3rd seat|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h6|nt|barnets: he is at adverse vul|pg||
nt|peachy: I was thinking the same, opp passed partner red he perhaps thought it would bee too risky|pg||
nt|henryb:  Yes, but even so|pg||
nt|barnets: i wouldn't chance it|pg||
nt|peachy: North in other table also chose Pass|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|Walddk4: Welcome back, to stay we hope|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|barnets: well done|pg||
pc|h8|nt|Walddk4: And welcome to Ed Shapiro|pg||
nt|othered1: Hi, everyone!|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg||
nt|barnets: excellent contract|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|nt|peachy: To answer kibs, not Strong Club|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: inferences from failure for either opponent to play @D?     neither player has the @D honors this hand|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|barnets: gso deutsch will take lead|pg||
nt|barnets: sorry they are in lead|pg||
nt|peachy: System Summaries for all players here, click on the name http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_entries&event=22&task=list|pg||
nt|othered1: rehi, everyone|pg||
nt|peachy: Hi Ed :)|pg||
nt|ritong: hello everybody|pg||
nt|barnets: hi|pg||
nt|peachy: Henri:)|pg||
nt|barnets: in the other room strangely|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1SAKQ643HD732CAJ85,SJT82HKQJD984CK62,S9HT8543DAKJT5C73,S75HA9762DQ6CQT94|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|mikam1: South has a rebid problem here|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|mikam1: 2@C, 2@S or 3@S all possible|pg||
mb|2D!|an|hearrts|mb|p|nt|scotty: S rebids 2@c - hoping to help partner with a later decision.  If 2@c gets passed, that is not necessarily bad|pg||
nt|scotty: 2@d shows hearts, probably|pg||
mb|2S|nt|mikam1: However, playing Bart, North has a headache|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Funny part is that this hand is best played in diamonds|pg||
nt|scotty: Difficult to diagnose the perfect fit....|pg||
nt|mikam1: the only suit never really mentioned|pg||
pc|hK|nt|scotty: Without the convention, N would bid 2D, and S would feel far more bullish|pg||
nt|mikam1: Natural bidders would be far better off here|pg||
pc|h3|nt|mikam1: So note to all spectators....there ARE hands where natural bidding prevails!!|pg||
pc|h2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|scotty: There are many.  That's why it's only worth playing conventions that both players know and understand thoroughly.  The gains are small in the long run - and one "accident" will ...|pg||
nt|scotty: negate their value|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|h4|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|c3|nt|mikam1: making 4|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|scotty: Levin's defense was trying to cut off the dummy - but I think the play of @d to J suggested good spades|pg||
mc|10|nt|mikam1: NS did find their way to 5@D |pg||
pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1SAKQ643HD732CAJ85,SJT82HKQJD984CK62,S9HT8543DAKJT5C73,S75HA9762DQ6CQT94|sv|e|nt|barnets: east had opened a strong club|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|othered1: NS still should be able to find 3N, but 5@D will work also, as cards lie|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Joel planning a 2-step to show good hand with 6@S & 4@C|pg||
nt|ahollan1: presumably with weaker hand she would rebid 2@S immediately|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|barnets: his is down a couple|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Andy Vinock|pg||
nt|barnets: e/w limit is 10 tricks in diamonds|pg||
nt|ritong: weichsel relatively lucky|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  good afternoon all|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: this is nice -- i forgot to think about options if Sokolow bidding 2@D|pg||
pc|d2|nt|othered1: 11 tricks likely here, too, as @SQ comes down while cashing out|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg||
nt|hackenbush: natural to finesse trump now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right -- retain ability to ruff @H if finesse loses|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|cT|nt|ritong: in that sense that 3@s is down, so the board was lost already  but yes, probably 4@d makes|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
nt|hackenbush: good shift, knockout late entry to spades|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|nt|ahollan1: play was too fast -- i was contemplating @S @S ruff then @DJ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s7|pc|c5|pc|d9|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s5|pc|c8|nt|ahollan1: the other room in 2@S   Stansby's 2@D over the 2@C rebid focused on @H|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
mc|12|nt|hackenbush: oops unguarded spades|pg||
nt|ahollan1: did she really do that?|pg||
pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2S982HAJ7DQJT54C62,SAQTH43DAK8CAQ743,SK543HKQ52D3CKJT5,SJ76HT986D9762C98|sv|b|nt|mikam1: in the closed room|pg||
nt|mikam1: So a well deserved 6 imps to Joel|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Interesting lead problem for North|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cQ|nt|mikam1: This is "safest" I suppose, as a lost trick is likely to come back to you|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|scotty: @s looks like the "safest " lead - that trick rates to come back|pg||
nt|mikam1: wish I'd said that|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
nt|scotty: Dummy's hearts make every shiftlook unappetizing|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg||
nt|mikam1: Migry has tough play at every turn|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|s6|nt|scotty: she figures, "declarer didn't play diamonds".....|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|mikam1: She may work out declarer's hand now|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|nt|mikam1: yes|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s8|nt|mikam1: good defense|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg||
pc|dK|pc|h5|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
mc|5|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2S982HAJ7DQJT54C62,SAQTH43DAK8CAQ743,SK543HKQ52D3CKJT5,SJ76HT986D9762C98|sv|b|nt|ritong: passell's part is not very enterprising|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Lots of heated discussion|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i bet|pg||
mb|2N|nt|andyv:  3N here?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: EW  1N=14-16 throughout   wonder if that means 2N = 19- something|pg||
nt|hackenbush: perhaps an upgrade|pg||
pc|hK|nt|othered1: some number of @H likely but 4 could be tricky.|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: but West is 2N opener regardless of  how Walter the Walrus counts points|pg||
nt|hackenbush: but this will be an unhappy contract|pg||
nt|ahollan1: same in other room|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|nt|barnets: bad trump split puts this down 1|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
nt|andyv:  so a vul game missed and a swing for Deutsch|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|c3|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|othered1: north's 3@H is unnderstandable and catches south with  the perfect flat minimum|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Migry led @Sx   [and it was her artificial 2@D last hand not stansby]|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|s2|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Joel's @S2 says  i can't help @S    Sokolow knows @C is wrong   that seems to limit her choices|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|d6|nt|barnets: deutsch gained 6 imps on last hand when poor defense|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|barnets: allowed 3@S to make with 5 losers|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: isn't it nice that rules haven't outlawed inferences|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|hackenbush: yes well defended|pg||
pc|cT|pc|d7|mc|5|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3ST75HK854DAQ53CA5,S9HQJ7DJ9842CKQJ8,SA82HT963DKT7C764,SKQJ643HA2D6CT932|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|mikam1: End|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|scotty: West not worth more|pg||
pc|cA|nt|scotty: I would have led a heart and blown a trick |pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
nt|scotty: or 2 tricks|pg||
nt|mikam1: yes, good lead by South|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
pc|s9|nt|mikam1: two tricks actually|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
nt|mikam1: this will hold declarer to 2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|d2|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|sT|pc|c8|pg||
nt|mikam1: I should say...may hold declarer to 2...JoAnna will have to guess now|pg||
pc|dA|nt|scotty: North played her lowest casrd at every turn, so S should play@d|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d8|nt|mikam1: right...well done|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|h4|nt|mikam1: All of these little things are important|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s8|pg||
nt|mikam1: Matches can end up coming down to small numbers of imps|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3ST75HK854DAQ53CA5,S9HQJ7DJ9842CKQJ8,SA82HT963DKT7C764,SKQJ643HA2D6CT932|sv|n|nt|andyv:  3N here|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|barnets: lucky card lie allows a slam to make here|pg||
mb|r|mb|2H|nt|ritong: undo pls|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ritong: ?|pg||
nt|barnets: this shows a strong diamond suit|pg||
nt|barnets: north may bid more|pg||
nt|barnets: slam is less than 50 percent|pg||
nt|barnets: needing no trump loser|pg||
nt|peachy: Curiously enough, NS system summary shows 2D = 1Major|pg||
nt|barnets: north may use key card|pg||
nt|barnets: to find out about the trump Q|pg||
nt|ritong: would you, barnet?|pg||
nt|barnets: that is if he knows how to bid it|pg||
nt|barnets: souths diamonds should be at worst what he is showing with 3N|pg||
nt|barnets: he could have AKQ xxx|pg||
nt|ritong: that s ok, but still|pg||
nt|peachy: Is it possible S forgot they played 2D artificial|pg||
nt|barnets: 4@D shold be RKC|pg||
nt|barnets: do they play 2@D as artificial ?|pg||
nt|barnets: if they do he forgot|pg||
nt|hackenbush: this double is aggressive, unfav opposite passed partner when you have to bid at 2-level|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: she may as well try 2@D|pg||
mb|p|nt|hackenbush: and they have the boss suit|pg||
pc|h5|nt|andyv:  very little to this hand unless E overbids his values|pg||
nt|peachy: Yes, 2D = 1 Major|pg||
nt|barnets: i think 2@D is natural and weak|pg||
nt|daman: we are starting with Board 5     we missed the first 4 boards    will catch up with them later|pg||
nt|daman: 3@D now by South should show this sort of hand    but 3NT is a stone on the layout|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|nt|barnets: how do you know this raija?|pg||
nt|daman: pass was not on my radar|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|s9|nt|othered1: some west's might open, which could facilitate getting a bit high . . . |pg||
nt|peachy: System Summary is 100% clear, so either the summary submitted is wrong, or S forgot|pg||
nt|barnets: well the summary submitted must be wrong|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|nt|barnets: opposite a weak major|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|peachy: Actually, It was not clear, I was looking wrong!!!!!!|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|nt|barnets: north would not have stopped in 3N|pg||
pc|d2|pc|sA|pg||
nt|peachy: The summaru is right, I was wrong|pg||
nt|barnets: np|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|nt|ritong: 10 comparisons left after that one|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: The A took the 3rd club|pg||
nt|barnets: he can afford a diamond finesse now|pg||
nt|ritong: cards begin to weight a bit more than usuall|pg||
nt|barnets: the contract is in no danger|pg||
nt|barnets: only overtricks|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: North must have thought the weak action was her partner's DBL|pg||
pc|sT|mc|10|pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4S4HA85DAK83CT8742,S83H9763DJ42CKJ65,SK765HKQDQ9765CA9,SAQJT92HJT42DTCQ3|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|mikam1: that 2N -300 was similarly defended in the closed room...well done all around|pg||
nt|mikam1: North will drive to game, but which one?|pg||
mb|2S|nt|mikam1: Doesn't anyone have an opening bid when they open?|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: Start with 2@s then 3@d|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|scotty: Then partner can try 3@h or 3@s  leaving 3N open|pg||
mb|3N|nt|mikam1: but on this hand partner may just raise diamonds|pg||
mb|p|nt|mikam1: of course if they're never bid...........|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|scotty: Actually, I think 6@d by N is not too bad |pg||
nt|mikam1: well, the play will go quickly|pg||
nt|mikam1: Really hard to get there if you never bid them :)|pg||
nt|mikam1: But I do understand it to some extent - after partner's 3@C|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|scotty: But 6@d fails here, with neither minor breaking (though it is not close to as good as needing either 3-3 clubs or 2-2 diamonds|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|d5|nt|scotty: Sorry I have to go now|pg||
mc|10|nt|mikam1: Bye Michael - thanks|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: thanks Michael|pg||
pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4S4HA85DAK83CT8742,S83H9763DJ42CKJ65,SK765HKQDQ9765CA9,SAQJT92HJT42DTCQ3|sv|e|nt|barnets: he had a safe fineesse for 12 tricks|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|othered1: Antoher possible 1N opening, but this may go less quietly\|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  S hand rich in high card points but poor in playing quality|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Levin still thought East was 1@S opener|pg||
nt|hackenbush: maybe they play equal-level conversion, where if North bids 2@c, and South 2@d showing @h+@d but not extras|pg||
nt|ahollan1: after 1@S-DBL    3N north|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@S really put pressure on NS|pg||
nt|hackenbush: another close double decision with Joel, here only 3 hearts with minimum values, but singleton spade|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: I have to go, will leave you all in the capable hands of Barnet Shenkin, Ed Shapiro, and Henri "ritong" Schweitzer. Thx all|pg||
nt|hackenbush: a good question to ask in these situation is, "do I want to defend"?|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Brief Restroom Break|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does radin action red vs white  affect Joel's decision of PASS vs DBL?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: beats me|pg||
nt|ahollan1: full credit to Radin for decision to open 2@S|pg||
pc|dA|nt|andyv:  the spot cards are not good|pg||
nt|andyv:  N will raise|pg||
pc|d2|nt|barnets: bye|pg||
nt|ritong: ciao raija|pg||
nt|othered1: bye|pg||
pc|d9|nt|andyv:  and S should bid the game|pg||
nt|andyv:  his Ks should all be working|pg||
nt|andyv:  a @c lead will do 4@h in though|pg||
nt|mr murray: 5 diamonds down 1|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|barnets: good x by east in open|pg||
nt|barnets: he knew his partner had 1 spade on auction|pg||
nt|barnets: so he knew he was taking first 4 tricks|pg||
nt|othered1: But what if partner had 0 @S?|pg||
nt|barnets: and his partner had 1 for luck|pg||
pc|dK|nt|andyv:  so, the luck element once again enters|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|nt|mr murray: yes|pg||
nt|barnets: still had chances|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|andyv:  hi Murray|pg||
nt|mr murray: hi|pg||
nt|mr murray: 4 hearts not making|pg||
nt|andyv:  right|pg||
nt|othered1: well  you do pretty much need to bring in @C with one loser but game is likely good enough vul|pg||
nt|barnets: to beat it|pg||
nt|barnets: i like the x|pg||
nt|daman: North should pass|pg||
nt|ahollan1: defending 2@S when 6@D actually has a [single dummy] play    conclusion: sometimes preempts work|pg||
pc|c3|nt|othered1: 3N would have better play as cards lie|pg||
nt|andyv:  both rooms should get to 4@h..only question is whether EW will take the 5@d push|pg||
nt|othered1: more like will west solo to 5@D, since east doesn't have much positive  to say with those tricks in defense|pg||
nt|andyv:  and spec points out that 4@s is another possible EW contract|pg||
pc|c4|nt|othered1: So do I|pg||
nt|barnets: and will be a nice swing for lynch|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|othered1: unless they get the ruffs right now, then a lesser swing|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h8|nt|othered1: I think 4@S has more disaster potential than 5@D|pg||
nt|andyv:  I agree...the handling problems would be very difficult esp. if W hand gets tapped|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|daman: looks like declarer will make at least 9 tricks|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|hackenbush: or possibly the player with shortness has to be more aggressive|pg||
pc|sT|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|daman: @D King now|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|d5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: probably   but point is   make 'em guess often enough, they'll guess wrong|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|othered1: just in case east opened 1N with stiff @H|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|s2|nt|daman: uncle|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1SKHAKJT54D96CK753,SJT876HDKT543CQJT,SQ942HQ87632DQC92,SA53H9DAJ872CA864|sv|b|mb|1H|nt|mikam1: Well - Meyers has a decision over 1@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|mikam1: Now 4@H by north no doubt|pg||
mb|4H|nt|mikam1: and Levin will double |pg||
mb|p|nt|mikam1: Wrong again|pg||
nt|swanson: Hi Michael, I'll step in to do the color - you do the play by play.|pg||
nt|mikam1: Thanks John :)|pg||
nt|mikam1: Would you have doubled with Levin's hand John?|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfk: Meyers thinking now|pg||
nt|mikam1: West must be tempted to bid now|pg||
nt|swanson: Yes, I would.|pg||
nt|mikam1: I think I would have to...despite the lack of a 4th spade (which would make it less risky)|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|d|nt|mikam1: Well done by Meyers|pg||
nt|swanson: Levin might try 4NT now, pick a minor.|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|5H|nt|swanson: 4NT could be bid holding any two suits, but West must choose a minor.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: What a great decision by Meyers|pg||
mb|d|nt|swanson: This should not be a forcing pass situation.  West has a very limited hand.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: That is, the pass by West was not inviting East to bid on.|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|mikam1: right - but Levin had many "extra" aces :)|pg||
pc|c2|nt|swanson: Levin has just enough aces.|pg||
nt|mikam1: yes, just enough|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|swanson: In my youth we regarded women players as conservative bidder - now there is no stopping them.|pg||
nt|swanson: bidders|pg||
pc|sA|mc|10|nt|mikam1: At the other table I believe the auction did go 1@H pass 4@H all pass|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: short break now|pg||
nt|mikam1: ok - be right back|pg||
nt|swanson: On the previous deal, East opened 2@S, not 1@S and South elected to pass, which ended the auction.|pg||
nt|swanson: In case I appear to be biased in my analysis on some hand, note that Jill Meyers is my sister-in-law.|pg||
nt|mikam1: West did well to balance with double, however she might have been better bidding 4@S...must be spades and another|pg||
nt|swanson: I had little to do with her bridge education however - it came mostly from Ed Davis.|pg||
nt|swanson: I don't endorse the "two-suited" balance with much enthusiasm.  Sometimes the defensive strength doesn't justify immediate action.|pg||
nt|mikam1: So you might hold say, Kxxxxx --- Qxxx Jxx or somesuch ?|pg||
nt|swanson: It is a tricky situation to judge.  (But I would have bid 4@S if I was backing in with those cards.)|pg||
nt|swanson: Myabe Jxxxxxx, -, Kxxx, xx?|pg||
nt|swanson: Maybe|pg||
nt|mikam1: yes - tough hand.  I see....that example makes sense|pg||
nt|mikam1: Well, in any case...as far as the match goes, it was great timing for the Joel team|pg||
nt|mikam1: They hadn't scored much...felt a bit flat|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: ok, back now|pg||
nt|swanson: The problem with a double on the West hand (delayed) is that parter will seldom, if ever, pull to a 3-card spade suit.|pg||
nt|mikam1: true|pg||
pg||
qx|c23|st||md|1SKHAKJT54D96CK753,SJT876HDKT543CQJT,SQ942HQ87632DQC92,SA53H9DAJ872CA864|sv|b|nt|andyv:  6@d |pg||
nt|othered1: Those 3 imps on the previous board become more significant . . . |pg||
nt|barnets: yes north would not want to lose by 2 or 3|pg||
nt|daman: South will open 1NT|pg||
nt|hackenbush: potential fireworks here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: will Moss bid over 1@H?  shape nice, suits bad  and vul ....|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other room in 10!|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|daman: East will bid 2@S    and that will end the auction     |pg||
nt|ahollan1: 10@H  [5@HX]|pg||
mb|4H|nt|othered1: Make a large number of @D EW, but that may be the 4th suit and could be hard to find|pg||
nt|hackenbush: too weak for michaels, if better spades then 1@s|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: this must be multi landy?|pg||
nt|daman: 2@D = one major|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  E's @h bid will make it harder to get to the slam|pg||
nt|othered1: Every time I make a contrarian play like that, turns out it was contrary to *our* success |pg||
nt|barnets: 4@S is the winning bid here|pg||
nt|othered1: And was made in the OR|pg||
nt|barnets: although 3N may make|pg||
mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|daman: 2H = pass or correct|pg||
nt|ahollan1: same start -- but Jill Meyers balanced with West hand|pg||
nt|hackenbush: another close decision to double, with Radin's hand|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|nt|barnets: club lead is best|pg||
nt|barnets: now dec cant set up spades|pg||
nt|barnets: and has only 8 top tricks|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|ritong: but west is known to hold 7 @hs|pg||
nt|barnets: but can make a ninth in hearts|pg||
nt|ritong: big bob would not open 3@h a six bagger first seat at equal vul, would he?|pg||
nt|hackenbush: if you can trust partner to pass when it's right, then you can double 4@h more often|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or close for Moss to re-open|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|nt|andyv:  E should raise here|pg||
nt|othered1: yes, but @H bid opposite void won't improve west hand a whole lot.|pg||
nt|othered1: What would west open with 4=1=4=4?|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|daman: EW were going to make 2@S     that was a very bold and competitive bid by North|pg||
pc|h9|nt|ahollan1: i think easier for Moss than Radin|pg||
pc|h5|pc|s6|nt|barnets: yes a spec points out|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s2|nt|andyv:  Bob makes the efficient bid|pg||
pc|s3|nt|andyv:  in OR, 4@h was bid and made|pg||
pc|sK|nt|barnets: that west may duck a heart lead|pg||
nt|barnets: in the end game|pg||
nt|barnets: giving dec a losing option|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|barnets: maybe|pg||
mc|11|nt|hackenbush: can really go for a number though with West hand, if South has extras instead of East|pg||
pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2SAJ9HK98DAT8CQ642,SQ64H63DKQ632CAT5,S852HA54DJ74CK987,SKT73HQJT72D95CJ3|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|mikam1: I think South will have to sit on the sidelines here|pg||
nt|mikam1: Wrong again :)|pg||
mb|1N!|an|not 3 hearts|mb|2C|nt|swanson: I think that it was a fine time to pass with the West cards.  At some point one needs to indicate that her hand is not very good.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: No one ever passes anymore|pg||
nt|swanson: Evidently Meyers doesn't have any green cards in her bidding box.|pg||
mb|p|nt|mikam1: Perhaps they were in a force :)|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|mikam1: The defense needs to keep declarer from the dummy to some extent|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
nt|swanson: At the other table East opened in 3rd seat with 2@H, evidently a Polish type bid, as West bid 2@S.  Again, no one passed.|pg||
nt|mikam1: This "should" be off one when all is said and done|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s3|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|h7|pc|dT|pg||
nt|mikam1: declarer will be forced to play for the spade jack onside|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sT|nt|swanson: She could lead to the @SK hoping that South has no more clubs.|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2SAJ9HK98DAT8CQ642,SQ64H63DKQ632CAT5,S852HA54DJ74CK987,SKT73HQJT72D95CJ3|sv|o|nt|hackenbush: nevertheless big pickup for Joel to tighten the match|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: Joel is off the schneid     gained 3 IMPs on board6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so   bidding is dangerous   and passing is dangerous    tough game|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  4@h will make on good guess of @s or a @s lead|pg||
mb|2H!|nt|ahollan1: 2@H=weak  5/4+ in  @H & @S|pg||
mb|d|mb|2S|nt|andyv:  now it will make all the time|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|othered1: and where does the @D loser go?|pg||
nt|daman: North will bid 3NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  details details|pg||
nt|ritong: checking the four cards support|pg||
mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|hackenbush: will do well to get out for down 1, late endplay in diamonds|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|nt|barnets: too high|pg||
nt|othered1: Just another pushy game you shouldn't bid non-vul, but can't avoid if east's hand is an opening bid in your methods|pg||
nt|ritong: mm|pg||
nt|ritong: a standard push, i d say|pg||
nt|othered1: since it's become standard to open east's hand, it is indeed a standard push|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|daman: she might duck a @S now|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h4|nt|daman: not an easy hand|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|nt|Walddk4: http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USSBC2011/Bracket.php?stage=Roundof8  for half-time scores in all matches|pg||
nt|othered1: This still can go down|pg||
nt|othered1: But I think east has to attack @D then west must score @H ruff, but it may be tricky to find|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|d2|pc|h5|pg||
nt|othered1: OK, t hat will do  it|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|h7|pc|c4|pg||
nt|daman: @D King|pg||
nt|ahollan1: how bizarre after the conventional 2@H for the hands to be so balanced|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d5|nt|andyv:  cash 2 @d and then @c ruff|pg||
nt|othered1: anything save the @SK will work here|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|othered1: well defended|pg||
nt|daman: down 1|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we're seeing some very nice defense this set|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3SQ74HT74DJ96CQJ84,SAJT2HK83D852CK32,S63HAJ95DAQT74CT6,SK985HQ62DK3CA975|sv|e|nt|mikam1: so Meyers gave a couple of imps back by bidding too much there.|pg||
mb|1D|nt|mikam1: live by the sword....|pg||
mb|d|nt|swanson: It may be difficult for E-W to stop at the two level here.|pg||
nt|mikam1: A risky double at these colors, but it can be risky to pass too|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|mikam1: West has a great hand - 2@S is a slight underbid....but a winner here|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|nt|swanson: The 4-3-3-3 distribution is unappealing but hold top honors, all outside of the diamond suit, is a plus.|pg||
nt|mikam1: It's very promising to hold xxx in the suit where partner has made a takeout double|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dK|nt|swanson: West might be able to execute a partial endplay on North.|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|swanson: All the guesswork here is for an overtrick.|pg||
nt|mikam1: yes|pg||
pc|sA|pc|h5|pc|c9|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h3|nt|mikam1: South can't have the heart king here|pg||
nt|mikam1: North will play low|pg||
nt|mikam1: is North thinking?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: yes|pg||
nt|mikam1: thanks|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|swanson: Maybe she is considering trying to give South an overruff is diamonds.  The play and bidding would seem to indicate the situation is exactly as it is however.|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3SQ74HT74DJ96CQJ84,SAJT2HK83D852CK32,S63HAJ95DAQT74CT6,SK985HQ62DK3CA975|sv|e|nt|barnets: 7 comparisons left in the match|pg||
nt|hackenbush: we see once again the danger in competing with length in opponent's suit|pg||
mb|1D|mb|d|nt|Walddk4: Good evening to Bill Frisby|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|andyv:  hi Bill|pg||
nt|athene: hi good evening everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: if n/s were vul I would bid 4|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: but non vul|pg||
nt|barnets: partner could have less and game bonus is less|pg||
nt|daman: EW must be plaing 14-16 NT    or precision|pg||
nt|daman: y*|pg||
nt|daman: I am informed14-16 NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i don't know the recommended defense against that 2@H opener  --  wouldn't be surprised if DBL did show bal hand|pg||
nt|hackenbush: it probably does|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Sokolow over 2@S  --  tough  give credit to the EW system|pg||
pc|cT|nt|daman: 6 more for Joel on Board 7|pg||
nt|hackenbush: but from South's perspective, needs partner to have a max to have a shot at 3nt, and might not even make 14 vs 11 with no source of tricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: true  partner was passed hand|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ritong: @s to the A, back to dummy and another @s, right?|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pg||
nt|athene: with four spade tricks declarer just wants to get the trumps drawn, but it's slightly awkward to get to dummy fast|pg||
nt|athene: if he wants to take advantage of the free finesse|pg||
nt|andyv:  with no @s losers, he may just play A@h and @h|pg||
nt|barnets: @SA yes|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|barnets: in other room he played a club now|pg||
nt|daman: hard not to lead @Cs|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|nt|ritong: yes, say you lose a @d ruff now, you do not lose the @h anymore|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c2|pg||
pc|dK|nt|hackenbush: 9 or 10 tricks here after ruffing a diamond|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg||
nt|athene: not sure you can afford to give up on the trump finesse quite that happily - if trumps are 3-1, and the defender with @HKxx plays a third round, you only have nine tricks|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|nt|ritong: unless the lead was stiff K|pg||
nt|daman: South has a "surround" in @Ss|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s8|nt|andyv:  then you have to be unlucky in both minors|pg||
nt|athene: i guess he was hoping something good would happen, and he doesn't want to incur a spade ruff|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|d4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: found recommended defense of that 2@H opening http://web2.acbl.org/defensedatabase/2c.htm|pg||
nt|ahollan1: DBL should have been takeout for @C & @D|pg||
pc|h5|nt|daman: no more tricks for EW |pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|nt|daman: well   that isn't true either|pg||
pc|dT|pc|sK|pg||
nt|daman: sorta endplay dummy?|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s7|nt|daman: so dummy can endplay North?|pg||
nt|daman: rock/hard place for South|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|hackenbush: ah, thanks|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4S965HKT73D9732CJ9,SK7HA984DA65CT752,SAQT4HQ2DKJ84CA43,SJ832HJ65DQTCKQ86|sv|b|nt|mikam1: well, only an imp :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Interesting that West passed in 3rd seat here|pg||
nt|swanson: West has a sound pass.  A 3rd seat opening bid with an almost infinite number of losers is unappealing.|pg||
pc|s2|nt|mikam1: I guess if you open light in other seats, it's not necessary to "protect"|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sK|nt|mikam1: Levin had a difficult lead...Jxxx is unappealing, but so is a minor with honors vs. 1N|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|mikam1: A low club would not have worked, but an honor would have|pg||
pc|sT|nt|mikam1: tough hand to play and defend here|pg||
nt|swanson: The defense should prevail - 1 spade, 1 heart, 3 clubs, 2 diamonds.|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s3|nt|swanson: Declarer has no dummy entry.|pg||
pc|s9|nt|mikam1: good shot by declarer, trying to create an entry to dummy for plays towards her diamonds|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s4|pg||
nt|mikam1: and West had a difficult pitch to make...if declarer guesses now....|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg||
nt|mikam1: nice play!!|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c7|nt|mikam1: she probably felt that West wouldn't pitch with the queen|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg||
nt|swanson: And she probably wouldn't!|pg||
nt|mikam1: right|pg||
nt|mikam1: very tough to defend 1N all pass|pg||
nt|mikam1: you know so little about declarer's hand at the start|pg||
nt|swanson: It is.  That is one of the reasons it pays to be agressive entering the auction against a 1NT opening bid if you have a little shpae.|pg||
nt|swanson: shape|pg||
nt|mikam1: yes, good point|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h3|pc|c2|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|mikam1: perhaps Meyers should have returned the club deuce here|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c5|nt|swanson: West might have been persuaded to let go a heart instead of a diamond because declarer didn't attack that suit.  But I am looking at all the cards.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|mikam1: Partner is likely to have 4 based on the play|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|c8|pc|d7|pc|cT|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h5|pc|d9|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hK|nt|mikam1: well Migry got her imp back from the previous hand :)|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|hT|nt|mikam1: if not more than one|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4S965HKT73D9732CJ9,SK7HA984DA65CT752,SAQT4HQ2DKJ84CA43,SJ832HJ65DQTCKQ86|sv|b|nt|andyv:  if that happens to you, don't go to the tables in Vegas|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: will north open 1N or 1@D?|pg||
nt|athene: 1@D 1@S 2@D double, seems a possible start|pg||
mb|p|nt|hackenbush: Will Moss open in 3rd?|pg||
mb|1H|nt|athene: i'm a bit surprised he opened 1nt - not because of the 5422 but just because it's a bit good|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but reliable source tells me  "dbl was 13-15 or 19-plus bal but not essential with that hand opposite a ph"|pg||
mb|d|nt|ritong: hamman sticks to his convictions|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|ahollan1: 1@H far from obligatory|pg||
nt|hackenbush: 2@d looks like a good raise to 2@h|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: passing 12 decent|pg||
mb|2H|nt|othered1: end of auction, I presume|pg||
nt|ritong: quacks, etc|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D transfer   [better raise than 2@H]|pg||
nt|hackenbush: and North should double again|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: I don't know if 2@H is controls or not|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: and NS earns 50, rather than the 130 that *might* have been attainable|pg||
nt|barnets: X could get 500  now if they pass it|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg||
nt|barnets: xx was 3 card support|pg||
nt|hackenbush: then again, defending is right if they're only in a 7-card fit|pg||
pc|dT|nt|daman: 3@C was Puppet|pg||
pc|d2|nt|andyv:  or 120|pg||
nt|athene: having given up control in trumps, north has to be a bit worried about declarer running the spades|pg||
nt|athene: you might expect him to try to cash out in the minors - he would have to find his partner with one king and get him in to lead to the other AQ|pg||
pc|dA|nt|barnets: and 3@Sx showed extra values|pg||
nt|barnets: sorry 3@Dx |pg||
nt|barnets: showed extras|pg||
nt|barnets: looking at all the hands you can make 10 tricks in spades|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|daman: 3@H showed no major|pg||
pc|d6|nt|athene: but i guess he just didn't want to commit to one or other suit|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h5|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h6|nt|athene: maybe north's heart spot should be suit preference for the minors|pg||
pc|h3|nt|athene: sorry|pg||
nt|ritong: bramley now knows his pard had 3@d for his t/o double|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|athene: maybe south's heart spot|pg||
nt|hackenbush: have to get a club ruff to beat it now|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|nt|barnets: dec can guess spades now then give up 2 hearts|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Director, please|pg||
pc|c9|nt|andyv:  good result for EW|pg||
nt|othered1: Interesting that a natural 1@D opening likely would have facilitated the defense|pg||
nt|ritong: time considerations?|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: are you sure about that??|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|nt|ritong: am i wrong supposing weichsel wanted to signal slow opponents?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Joel has the trump tenace|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|hackenbush: true, they just have to avoid blowing a black suit trick|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so @D tap works too|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'd be much more confident at the table :)|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s2|pc|d7|nt|vugraphzff: Peter wants some coffee|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|s4|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sQ|nt|daman: not a stellar defense|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Break|pg||
nt|daman: must be a potty break|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o27|st||md|1SAKT97HJ98DAK9CQ9,SQJ643HK764DJ4C62,S82HA32DQT8CAK843,S5HQT5D76532CJT75|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|mikam1: NS have to be careful not to bid too much on this one|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: One could envision 6@C or 6NT here if someone gets a bit aggressive.|pg||
nt|mikam1: South has a difficult rebid even now|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Even if 3N showed this strength, you're top heavy in diamonds|pg||
nt|mikam1: but it does have the advantage of showing hand-type and strength|pg||
nt|swanson: The 3NT in a game forcing auction shows about 17HCP.  A very reasonalbe choice by South.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikam1: well done at both tables to stay low|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: short break here |pg||
nt|mikam1: ok - thanks|pg||
nt|swanson: Would you handle the South hand differently, Michael?|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
nt|mikam1: sorry - back now|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|s7|nt|mikam1: I think 3N was right on balance...|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|mikam1: not perfect, but everything else will really distort things|pg||
nt|swanson: I would probably have rebid 2@S, planning to eventually raise 3NT to 4NT, but I'm not so certain that the immediate 3NT isn't correct.|pg||
mc|11|nt|swanson: 2@D, not 2@S.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: smoke break now -- a bit longer|pg||
nt|mikam1: ok - I'll take one myself...(even though I don't smoke) :)|pg||
nt|mikam1: Ok - I'm ready now...send the players back in|pg||
nt|mikam1: :)|pg||
nt|mikam1: A quick recap of the match...everyone opens every 11 point hand...and some 10s|pg||
nt|swanson: 11 HCP was worth a free rebid after opening - then a balance.|pg||
nt|mikam1: All green cards have been removed from play|pg||
nt|swanson: But then, it did contain a five-card suit.|pg||
nt|mikam1: :)|pg||
nt|mikam1: No wonder Ms. Meyers has done so well...she's a tough opponent!!  Better be on your toes!|pg||
nt|swanson: I think the super-agressive bidding has been a slight minus in the set.|pg||
nt|mikam1: Maybe, but Jill's balance at the 4 level on board 23 was worth 13 imps|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: back now|pg||
nt|swanson: The rule is: only overbid when partner has a fit.|pg||
pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1SAKT97HJ98DAK9CQ9,SQJ643HK764DJ4C62,S82HA32DQT8CAK843,S5HQT5D76532CJT75|sv|o|nt|vugraphzff: There isn't support in this room at all|pg||
nt|barnets: chance for lynch here|pg||
nt|barnets: n/s can make a lot of clubs|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, clearly so|pg||
nt|barnets: in open north bid an artificial 1N which i believe showed clubs|pg||
nt|barnets: but south never supported|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Peter has his coffee|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not sure about the rest of you   but i really enjoy watching good defense|pg||
mb|1S|nt|andyv:  might even have won the auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: even if south's heart WAS suit-pref, he didn't really have any preference between the minors :)|pg||
mb|2C|nt|ritong: reaching game would be an achievement  winning the partials battle will bring in 6 already|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: NS can make @Cs or @Ds|pg||
nt|daman: South should pass|pg||
nt|daman: here is the vugraph sked for future matches      http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
mb|3N|nt|barnets: well game is lucky with @CK falling|pg||
nt|othered1: and you  have to get the position right if you're as  high as 5|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  all roads lead to 3NT|pg||
nt|hackenbush: now how will South get her values across...|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: you could play east for kX club|pg||
nt|barnets: doubleton|pg||
nt|barnets: that loses here|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Lots of alert explanations|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C game force   jump to 3N should show 1N strength [but some flaw for 1N open]|pg||
nt|hackenbush: and we have our answer|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2N would be less or more than 1N opening strength|pg||
pc|h4|nt|barnets: same bidding|pg||
nt|ritong: next board is promising as well|pg||
nt|barnets: now it went all pass|pg||
nt|ahollan1: it was probably a close call for Joel|pg||
pc|h2|nt|athene: maybe Passell was playing his partner for the @SK rather than a minor-suit king|pg||
nt|othered1: 1N says they never bypass 4-card majors in responding to 1@C|pg||
nt|athene: but Hamman would more likely be aggressive with both major kings|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|athene: and if south does have the @SK then @DA and @DQ is sure to beat the contract even if it gives hamman his @DK - they will get the @CAQ when south gets in|pg||
nt|barnets: in other room|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|barnets: and so it goes|pg||
pc|hT|nt|barnets: personally i think if north shows a club suit|pg||
nt|barnets: south should support him|pg||
nt|barnets: but that my view  who knows|pg||
nt|daman: this will be down quickly    once East wins the @C Ace     EW will cash 2 @Hs|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
nt|ritong: rather weird, yes  a ten cards fit buried in both rooms|pg||
nt|othered1: @DQ doesn't look very positive and @S were bid on his left, but still A9x is above expectations|pg||
nt|barnets: 1N shows clubs to all specs|pg||
nt|barnets: north has bid his suit with 1N|pg||
nt|ahollan1: she was going to guess the @H10 anyway|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
nt|barnets: I am not sure on their system what 2@C would mean|pg||
nt|ritong: operator, can you confirm there was no alert of 1 NT please?|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Alerted|pg||
pc|c9|nt|ritong: ok thanks|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg||
nt|athene: when south responds 1@D here it's not saying "I have no 4-card major" but it is saying "you can ignore your 4-card majors to rebid 1nt, i will check back for them if i want to"|pg||
nt|barnets: in the other room 1N was clearly alerted to show clubs?|pg||
nt|barnets: can you say if it was clearly alerted here ?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: pause = negotiating claim|pg||
pc|s2|nt|hackenbush: if East had played back a low heart, inserting @h9 is indicated from restricted choice, besides the fact that East might've tried @hK or spade from @hKQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: please let that be the case|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|ritong: mary said so|pg||
nt|barnets: if 1n showed clubs 2@C would likely be a cue bid , as would 2@D|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: I'm Gary and the alerts were lengthy, though I couldn't see or hear them|pg||
nt|barnets: thanks gary|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Mary fell into the river hehe|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: I'm not responsible, don't know how to change it|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ritong: never mind  no big deal|pg||
pc|h3|nt|vugraphzff: The pace has slowed to zero|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: high pressure|pg||
nt|barnets: finished in open room now|pg||
nt|barnets: very tight match and exciting boards to come|pg||
nt|daman: claim|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: one of us miscounted tricks|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d3|mc|10|nt|ahollan1: i guess there were 12 tricks if Radin held both @S honors|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but taking 11 tricks seems right to me|pg||
nt|hackenbush: usually a match won't come down to these overtricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other match  thru 25  Sprung over Westheimer by 10|pg||
nt|hackenbush: but the Deutsch-Lynch match yesterday in the senior trials went to overtime after 60 boards!|pg||
pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2SJ6HJT74DT65CT943,SAQT85H3DAKQ87C75,SK93HA862D43CK862,S742HKQ95DJ92CAQJ|sv|n|nt|mikam1: LOL|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Object of the game here is to get no higher than 4@S|pg||
nt|mikam1: however 5 will make on the lie of the cards|pg||
nt|mikam1: East might have bid 2N over 2@D...all cards in the round suits|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|swanson: East might have rebid 2NT over 2@S with 3-4-3-3 and 12 HCP in the rounded suit.|pg||
mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|mikam1: In my partnerships 3N would be a non-serious slam try|pg||
nt|swanson: I wonder if 3NT over 3@S is a 'non-serious' slam try.  If so, they are in dangerous waters.|pg||
mb|4N|nt|mikam1: 4@H seems wrong whatever it meant|pg||
mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|nt|mikam1: they will survive this, but only with a bit of luck|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: The East hand has solid values for game but opposite a spade-diamond hand offers poor cards for slam.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg||
nt|swanson: Trick one gives declarer a nice feeling - trick two isn't bad either.|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
nt|mikam1: This is a good lesson hand...East's hand got worse and worse as the auction progressed (opposite spades and diamonds)|pg||
nt|mikam1: 13 points turned into 8|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: Meyers shows her hand.  Stansby:  Nice try Migry|pg||
nt|swanson: I like North's lead - she knows the situation in all four suits is bad for the defense (except the @SK).  She needs a 3rd trick to set the contract.|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2SJ6HJT74DT65CT943,SAQT85H3DAKQ87C75,SK93HA862D43CK862,S742HKQ95DJ92CAQJ|sv|n|nt|daman: EW willend up in a lazy 4@H|pg||
nt|daman: eventually|pg||
nt|ahollan1: site hasn't been updated  but session scores should show up at http://www.ask.com/web?q=weather:&o=101703&l=dis&qsrc=2871|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not even close al|pg||
mb|1S|nt|daman: 2@D is transfer preempt, showing weak 2 bid in hearts|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USWBC2011/Bracket.php?stage=SemiFinals|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|andyv:  lucky slam hand here|pg||
nt|andyv:  4@c now|pg||
nt|andyv:  spec likes responsive dbl here|pg||
nt|athene: 4@C from north, 5@C from east is quite possible|pg||
nt|othered1: 4@C might be a bit pushy.  Maybe dangerous responsive double|pg||
nt|daman: if they open 2@H    it is weak with both majors|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  I like 4@c|pg||
nt|hackenbush: on the news they sad the weather in the midwest is the hottest in 5 years|pg||
mb|2D|nt|othered1: 5@C by east / 4@C lets south make a forcing pass, w hich may help their auction|pg||
nt|daman: 2NT asks    3@C shows a bad hand|pg||
nt|daman: Ogustish|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ritong: repeating @hs will show 6/5|pg||
nt|barnets: slam is not wonderfull but it makes|pg||
nt|barnets: just one entry to south hand|pg||
nt|ritong: the question is: at which level|pg||
mb|3D|nt|othered1: wonder why south didn't bid 4@D?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: which 5?   [sorry  i gotta be me]|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  when pd asks you to pick a major, do you like to torment him by bidding the other minor?|pg||
mb|3S|nt|hackenbush: @sT will be an encouraging card for Moss, partner ostensibly showing @sHx|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: every imp is vital now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: good time to distinguish  serious vs non-serious slam tries|pg||
mb|4D|nt|andyv:  this should be over quickly...S will take the @s hook into W hand|pg||
nt|ritong: so weichsel showed a rockcrushing 6/5 and lair declined|pg||
nt|barnets: a 1 imp swing could be very important for deutsch |pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|c7|pc|h2|pg||
nt|andyv:  claim time |pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|cK|nt|ritong: minimum number of tricks again|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: I entered wrong, it was +450|pg||
nt|ritong: yah|pg||
nt|barnets: that is very important|pg||
nt|ritong: oui|pg||
nt|barnets: that makes the score 12 imps|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Lost 2 trumpt tricks only|pg||
nt|barnets: to deutsch|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3SAKT7H75DJ97CKJT9,S985HAT86DT4CA763,SJ62HKJ4DQ852C852,SQ43HQ932DAK63CQ4|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|swanson: These deals have been very tame - it's only the agressive bidding by the participants that have made them lively.|pg||
pc|c3|nt|mikam1: true John|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
nt|mikam1: At the other table, on this same auction, South made a takeout double...North was forced to bid 2@S|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer is in a position to cross-ruff the minors now.  If she does so without touching trumps she won't have to guess the suit on her own.|pg||
nt|mikam1: yes, this looks like a hand that plays itself in some ways|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|h6|pc|d8|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|h2|pc|cT|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c7|nt|mikam1: eight tricks at least|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|h3|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg||
nt|mikam1: so another push|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|s7|pc|hA|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c29|st||md|3SAKT7H75DJ97CKJT9,S985HAT86DT4CA763,SJ62HKJ4DQ852C852,SQ43HQ932DAK63CQ4|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|andyv:  this 4@h contract will have a lot of work|pg||
nt|athene: west isn't too happy on lead|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ritong: 3@d likely infers three cards raise|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Thx|pg||
nt|barnets: if n/s play slam in diamonds they could lose  a couple of vital imps|pg||
nt|barnets: unless its 7 of course !|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: they are going to have a small BW problem imo|pg||
nt|ritong: about the trump suit|pg||
nt|barnets: lynch have a likely pick up on the last board so this hand may be decisive|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: whatever he leads helps declarer to an extent|pg||
nt|barnets: north will place the final contract\|pg||
nt|ritong: one of weichsel's problems currently is: if i raise @ds, what will be the agreed suit|pg||
nt|daman: a thoughtful lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: on a spade lead declarer might throw a club on a spade and play for a club ruff|pg||
nt|athene: or alternatively try and get the diamonds going|pg||
nt|ahollan1: has Sokolow had ANY easy bids this set?|pg||
pc|dA|nt|andyv:  good lead|pg||
nt|barnets: souths 3@D shows 3  card spade support|pg||
nt|othered1: Turns out 2N wasn't free here.  Wonder what 4@D would have meant over 2@S?|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|nt|barnets: some play it has 3 and a non minimum|pg||
nt|barnets: now a cue bid|pg||
nt|barnets: meanwhile north has not supported diamonds|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d9|nt|ritong: now it is @ss|pg||
pc|dT|nt|barnets: north still is not sure|pg||
nt|ritong: i mean, south answers with @s fit|pg||
nt|barnets: where to play|pg||
nt|barnets: 6@D could be right|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|d6|nt|barnets: now south is worried  he has shown more diamonds than he has|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s5|nt|ritong: saving 2 imps|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|hackenbush: this double partner almost certainly has 4 spades, looking for the big payoff when both 2@h and 2@s makes|pg||
pc|h8|nt|barnets: souths decision could have been a match winner|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Dummy showed max, stiff heart|pg||
nt|barnets: this looks sure to be flat|pg||
nt|ritong: lair took a huge view|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 5 & 6 imp swings also add up quickly|pg||
nt|hackenbush: definitely|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ritong: looks innocuous, but is enormous|pg||
nt|barnets: of course north had not guaranteed 5 spades|pg||
nt|barnets: so the whole situation is wooly to say the least|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: seems she should have gotten that right|pg||
nt|ahollan1: just don't ask me why|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hA|nt|athene: declarer is going to go for a club ruff|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: now needs exact @S layout  and that will mean Radin holds @CQ  else she would have opened 1N|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and that is just for down 1|pg||
nt|hackenbush: unfortunately can't get to hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh right  needed @HK as entry|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|nt|andyv:  one of the key facets in defense is to try not to break new suits for declarer hence Bob's return of a @s|pg||
pc|h2|pc|c9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: finally getting some real help from opp|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s8|pg||
nt|andyv:  the tough part is now|pg||
nt|andyv:  best seems AK @h and ruff @c|pg||
nt|athene: declarer's only worry now is holding the trump losers to one|pg||
nt|athene: maybe you ruff a diamond now|pg||
nt|athene: you know west has the king still so that isn't getting overruffed|pg||
nt|andyv:  on @d ruff, E pitches @c|pg||
nt|athene: yes, but you might still be able to combine chances in trumps|pg||
nt|athene: with some trump coup possibilities|pg||
nt|andyv:  so basically the same thing but ruff 1@d first then AK@h?  that works too|pg||
pc|sA|nt|daman: she will take the money and run    no finesses|pg||
pc|s9|nt|ahollan1: does doubleton trump Q help here?     @C finesse, @SA @SK   nope doesn't help|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|athene: declarer's main problem here is he wants to take the trump finesse if east has four trumps|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4SA987HQJ3DAQ7CKJ9,SK5H52DK43CQT8653,SQ6432HT874DJT9C2,SJTHAK96D8652CA74|sv|o|mb|1D|nt|mikam1: as John said, not many swingy hands...only 1 double digit swing in the quarter|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|mikam1: 1N overcall and double?|pg||
nt|mikam1: nope|pg||
nt|mikam1: of course with the light opening style....probably need a bit more to double|pg||
mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|mikam1: in any case, Meyers will compete to 3@C|pg||
nt|mikam1: Or South may bid 3@S now|pg||
mb|3S|nt|mikam1: which she did|pg||
nt|swanson: It would be useful to bid clubs naturally (by West) after the 1NT overcall, but most everyone (all?) use it as an artificial bid.|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Meyers must be wondering where all this bidding is coming from|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|mikam1: North was a bit aggressive here, but I suppose it could have been right|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d6|nt|swanson: E-W have sufficient top winners that they can affter to blow a diamond trick.|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|s2|nt|swanson: afford|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
nt|swanson: It's comming back.|pg||
nt|swanson: Maybe.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg||
nt|mikam1: Perhaps South shouldn't bid 3@S over 2@H though...4333, etc.|pg||
nt|mikam1: couple of queens and a jack|pg||
pc|cA|nt|swanson: Maybe North could guess that with 3HCP they might be off four top tricks.|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4SA987HQJ3DAQ7CKJ9,SK5H52DK43CQT8653,SQ6432HT874DJT9C2,SJTHAK96D8652CA74|sv|o|nt|athene: he can't cater for everything i don't think|pg||
nt|andyv:  I think John's line was very efficient|pg||
nt|daman: this is the penultimate board of this session|pg||
nt|ahollan1: what just happened?    i blinked|pg||
nt|hackenbush: could've been down more, don't think that @cA was going away|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh she really did fly @CA|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Rose quickly with club A|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yuk|pg||
mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: there might be a more technical term|pg||
nt|ahollan1: what will Moss do over 1N overcall?|pg||
mb|1N|nt|ritong: soooo....|pg||
nt|ritong: is that one mundane?|pg||
mb|3C|nt|athene: the idea of ruffing some diamonds was that you might then be able to cash the @HAK and even if west showed out you would not necessarily be dead|pg||
nt|athene: as you might have a trump coup against east|pg||
nt|andyv:  20-20 hand|pg||
nt|daman: NS will end up in another lazy 4@H contract|pg||
nt|hackenbush: well Valerie Westheimer in the BBO Junior club calls that the flying ace syndrome|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C by many would be artificial  [example: same bid as if RHO opened 1N]  so PASS/DBL/3@C were her options|pg||
nt|hackenbush: most play double as negative here over 3@c|pg||
nt|hackenbush: but might be scary if partner passes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and with the lack of values  negative would definitely apply|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  good point|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: well|pg||
nt|daman: now they satnd to gain an IMP or 2|pg||
nt|daman: stand*|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: good 3@C bid|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|othered1: no board passes out any more, even if two players pass 11 counts in 1 and 2 pos, a rarity in some circles |pg||
nt|ahollan1: stopped NS from finding @S|pg||
pc|h2|nt|athene: sutherlin knows everyone has about a ten count|pg||
nt|athene: bramley has to be dead min to pass 1@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and it makes!|pg||
pc|h8|nt|daman: oh my|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|athene: i would bid 2@C on the south hand i think|pg||
nt|andyv:  usually, responder shouldn't have more points than opener:)|pg||
nt|athene: you just don't get rich letting opps play in 1 of things|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: Radin using her entries to lead up to dummy's kings|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|barnets: now on that lead e/w can hold dec to 9 tricks|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|nt|othered1: One possible imp pick up here to Deutsch . . . |pg||
nt|ritong: 9 for sure, let s see about the tenth|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c4|nt|barnets: which could be a very vital imp|pg||
nt|barnets: there is a chance this match could finished tied at the end |pg||
nt|barnets: of the 60|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|nt|othered1: You have a twice-passed partner and little defense . . . |pg||
nt|athene: i guess he decided there was not much point; most of the time it would just push opps from 1@S making 8 into 2@S making 8 :)|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
nt|ritong: everything in place now|pg||
nt|barnets: looks like 9 only|pg||
nt|daman: they could have gleaned 500 from 4@S doubled|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|nt|barnets: exciting stuff|pg||
nt|ritong: yeah|pg||
nt|barnets: dont leave your seats anyone|pg||
nt|ritong: total points or playoff? i guess second optioàn|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|nt|andyv:  will make a lot of tricks now|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|hJ|mc|9|nt|andyv:  making 3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nice result|pg||
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qx|o31|st||md|1SJ8HA6DKQ8532CT54,SQ532HDJ9764CA982,ST94HJ98732DACKQ6,SAK76HKQT54DTCJ73|sv|n|nt|mikam1: Will JoAnna open this one?|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|mikam1: Aha....|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|nt|mikam1: this could lead to 2@D doubles|pg||
nt|mikam1: doubled|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: I would sit for this as West - vulnerability is attractive.|pg||
mb|p|nt|mikam1: yes|pg||
mb|p|pc|s3|nt|mikam1: this looks like down 1|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|nt|mikam1: unless I'm missing something|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: isn't down 2 in play?|pg||
pc|s7|pc|d2|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think needed to play top @H thru either here or previous trick|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg||
nt|swanson: I don't think the defense could shut out two clubs and 5 red suit winners.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
nt|mikam1: right John - down 1|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h6|mc|7|pg||
qx|c31|st||md|1SJ8HA6DKQ8532CT54,SQ532HDJ9764CA982,ST94HJ98732DACKQ6,SAK76HKQT54DTCJ73|sv|n|nt|barnets: 13 imps margin|pg||
nt|barnets: if n/s play 4@H the match is a tie|pg||
nt|barnets: 13 imps to lynch|pg||
nt|daman: 2@S   1@H   1@C   2@D|pg||
nt|daman: last board now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: may just be push or win 4 but still  beating par is always nice|pg||
nt|ahollan1: is weak 2@D available?|pg||
mb|2D|nt|barnets: and there will be extra boards|pg||
nt|barnets: if the scoring is corect|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: for future matches     http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php     bookmark it|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: Quite a 2@S bid in OR.  Do they play it 2-suited by definition?|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, good point barnet|pg||
mb|d|nt|barnets: in other room west opened 2@S|pg||
nt|daman: sorry folks    we have 16 board quarters    I thought 15   like yesterday    one more after this|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|daman: 3NT from the Nprth hand is the best spot|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: on the rule of 11, north has one club higher than the six|pg||
nt|athene: if it's the king or jack you want to play low in dummy; if it's the 9 or 8 you want to stick in the ten|pg||
nt|othered1: Deutsch has gotten into the lead on the basis of that potential slam on board 42, where they found 6@D in the OR.|pg||
nt|athene: assuming you can get south on lead next|pg||
nt|andyv:  so odds about 2-1 in favor of 10|pg||
nt|andyv:  as most don't lead away from Jacks|pg||
nt|athene: isn't it exactly 50-50?|pg||
nt|barnets: and this made it more difficult for /s|pg||
nt|daman: North*|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: n/s|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|nt|barnets: a good tactical bid|pg||
nt|hackenbush: tempting to pass with West but priority still goes to bidding your own contract first|pg||
pc|d8|nt|athene: well, he sort of wants to be in dummy to finesse spades|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|hackenbush: with 3 defensive tricks, and a fairly offensive hand, both @d and @s might be making|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: in other match  with 4 to score in the set  Sprung leads Westheimer by 19|pg||
nt|ahollan1: after long dinner break   30 more boards to complete the USA1 semi-final matches|pg||
nt|ahollan1: winners advance to USA1 Final   losers got to USA2 bracket|pg||
nt|hackenbush: good lead, holding values in both unbid suits|pg||
pc|s6|nt|barnets: and then found a good opening lead V 3n|pg||
nt|barnets: the @D J|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|athene: so maybe this is reasonable|pg||
nt|barnets: so good play by passel to put pressure on n/s|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|othered1: Remember, the score shown here is not official.|pg||
pc|d4|nt|barnets: south could have taken out 3N but left it in|pg||
pc|h3|nt|athene: if you played low and north did turn up with a big card, then your natural play would be a diamond, which might allow north to put a club through anyway|pg||
nt|barnets: the def must cash another diamond now|pg||
pc|s7|pc|d2|pg||
nt|ritong: i think 11 or 12 do not change imp|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|barnets: thats a tie|pg||
nt|hackenbush: still making, as NS can't get in to lead trumps again|pg||
pc|s2|nt|andyv:  Deutsch has gone ahead by bidding the slam on board 42|pg||
nt|athene: bramley can make 11 but only if he finesses the spade, i think|pg||
nt|andyv:  so with 17 boards to go, this promises to be a very match|pg||
nt|athene: he might have enough of a count to do that|pg||
nt|andyv:  exciting that is:)|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in Seniors   Milner leads Lynch by 23     Schwartz over O'Rourke by 32|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h8|nt|athene: he will see south has five diamonds and one heart|pg||
nt|daman: has to get busy and knock out the @H Ace|pg||
pc|sK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|barnets: so we have a 6 board play off and hope to bring it to you|pg||
nt|daman: that's the end of the defense|pg||
nt|daman: uncle|pg||
nt|daman: claim|pg||
pc|h6|pc|c2|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h4|pc|c4|pc|s3|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d9|nt|ritong: first needs confirmation of the tie|pg||
nt|barnets: if the scores we have are accurate|pg||
nt|ritong: in any case, this room will be closed|pg||
nt|ritong: in order to load the playoff boards|pg||
nt|ritong: if any|pg||
nt|barnets: while we are waiting all those interested in extraordinary bridge stories from the past and hands from the present|pg||
nt|barnets: visit www.shenkinbridge.com|pg||
nt|ritong: do we have an operator again?|pg||
pc|c6|pc|sA|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c5|nt|othered1: Incidentally, on board 42, east in OR did bid 5@C over north's 4@C cue-bid, south made the expected forcing pass then raised north's 5@D to slam.  |pg||
pc|s5|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c3|nt|andyv:  bye everyone for now|pg||
nt|athene: Bramley rose @HA i guess because if he had finessed and north had won and cleared clubs, the spade finesse would no longer have been safe|pg||
nt|athene: ok thanks all|pg||
nt|othered1: THanks to our operator for the fine presentation of a pretty fast-paced set, not an easy job.  Thanks everyone else and bye.|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o32|st||md|2SQ8HK754DT87CT754,SJT7652HQJTDQ95C8,S43H962DK4CAQJ932,SAK9HA83DAJ632CK6|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: i wasn't sure about the 5 red suit winners with earlier switch|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: last hand here -- start segment 3 of 4 in 2 hrs and 10 min|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: thanks to Mike, John, and Al for the commentary|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|Vugraphzfk: and Michael Rosenberg earlier|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|mikam1: 10 points ....another opener|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: too good for 3@C :)|pg||
nt|mikam1: and another bid :)|pg||
mb|d|an|3 spades, extras|nt|swanson: The club rebid sets up the possibility of a down 5 save in 5@C.|pg||
mb|3C|mb|4S|nt|mikam1: South may sac later now|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i would have opened 2@C!|pg||
nt|mikam1: This will NOT be a good save|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: JoAnna gave herself this problem in a way, by not jumping to 4@C over 2@C.|pg||
nt|mikam1: And JoAnna didn't|pg||
nt|mikam1: true John|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|c8|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sK|nt|mikam1: So this segment was pretty quiet...a 19 imp lead for Moss...32 to go|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|d5|pc|c2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: what does panel think of Stansby original PASS  vs Joel's 1@H|pg||
nt|swanson: I don't like 1@H.  I would rather bid 2@C.  But pass gets equal billing.|pg||
mc|11|nt|mikam1: Bye all|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i didn't like 1@H  but instead of 2@C i talked about transfers over the dbl|pg||
nt|swanson: Thanks all.  More to come.|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: back in a little over 2 hours|pg||
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qx|c32|st||md|2SQ8HK754DT87CT754,SJT7652HQJTDQ95C8,S43H962DK4CAQJ932,SAK9HA83DAJ632CK6|sv|e|nt|daman: now the last board|pg||
nt|daman: thanks to our operator Gary Hann    super job|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is last board of the set   restart in about 2.5 hours|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphzff: :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C anyone?|pg||
mb|1C|mb|d|nt|hackenbush: too bad they're favorable|pg||
mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|daman: next session begins in roughly 40 minutes|pg||
nt|daman: 2@C must show @Cs obviously|pg||
nt|hackenbush: many pairs like to play that 3-level preempts have tighter range, depending on colors|pg||
mb|d|mb|2C|nt|daman: and here we are|pg||
nt|hackenbush: so favorable 3@c = bad hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: favorable = random hand  but 2nd seat ??|pg||
nt|hackenbush: yes 2nd seat should usually be stronger|pg||
nt|hackenbush: 3@c certainly works better for this hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: an inspired lead|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: no reason to get too fancy|pg||
nt|daman: over to a @S    @C finesse    @C Ace|pg||
mb|p|pc|h9|nt|ahollan1: the more i watch, the more convinced i am that transfers over the DBL work much better than standard  [i.e. a forcing 1@H feels wrong]|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Sokolow DBL = 3@H  [support dbl]|pg||
nt|hackenbush: NS did avoid going for 800 in 5@c|pg||
nt|ahollan1: reminds me of my grandfather     i saved $100,000 dollars today   saw a house i loved and didn't buy it     [it was a long time ago]|pg||
nt|hackenbush: certainly pairs that play transfers over 1@c opening, play it over the double, e.g. Garner-Weinstein|pg||
nt|ahollan1: even if not playing them over 1@C-P   many play them over 1@C-X and 1@D-X|pg||
nt|hackenbush: many more play them over 1M-Dbl|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Lots of agony here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: those have been around longer|pg||
pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: from the players or the specs following our ramblings?>|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|daman: now a @H|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sK|nt|daman: making 3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg||
nt|daman: thanks everyone|pg||
nt|daman: see you soon|pg||
nt|hackenbush: next segment will start in about 10 minutes|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d8|pc|sJ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|mc|11|nt|ahollan1: thanks everyone   3rd set starts in about 2 hours 20 minutes|pg||
nt|hackenbush: thanks to our wonderful operator Gary|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other tables still in play so please move quietly as you bail out of here|pg||
nt|hackenbush: thanks to all spectators and my fellow commentator Al Hollander|pg||
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