vg|2011 USWBC SF A,Segment 3 of 4,I,33,48,Moss,58,Joel,39|
rs|3HS-1,4HS-1,5CE=,3SS-2,3SE=,4SE-1,2SN-1,2SN-1,3CE=,3CE=,3NE-2,3NE-2,4NN=,3NN+2,4HE=,4HW=,4SE-1,3NW+1,3SN+1,3SN+1,1NS+2,3DS+1,3SW-1,3SW-2,4SE+2,4SE+1,4HS+1,3NS+2,4SS-1,4SS=,1NS+1,2CS+1|
pn|Moss,Rosenberg,Radin,Seamon-Mol,Meyers,Stansby,Levin,Campanile|pg||
qx|o33|st||md|3SKJ2HKQ432D2CA752,SQT43HAT9DJ874C86,SA96HJ75D9653CKT3,S875H86DAKQTCQJ94|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: other tables visible via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c8|nt|ahollan1: NS upside-down count & attitude  EW standard carding|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other room  Meyers 4@H South|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: is there a way to beat this?|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or maybe better question   is there any way for other room to make 4@H|pg||
pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: seems EW entitled to @S or 2nd trump -- but not both|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: but notice that East keeps her @D entry intact|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|scotty: I think it can't be beaten after the lead - but declarer had to not finesse the spade|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|dT|pc|hQ|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c33|st||md|3SKJ2HKQ432D2CA752,SQT43HAT9DJ874C86,SA96HJ75D9653CKT3,S875H86DAKQTCQJ94|sv|o|nt|vugraphzff: Contract 3NT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we'll guess who's declarer|pg||
nt|ralfwil: good evening everyone (it´s 17.40 here in Sweden)|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: East, Judi 3NT|pg||
nt|ralfwil: sry 19.40!|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2H|nt|hackenbush: wonder what happened to hearts|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: They didn't give me time to get the auction|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other rooms visible via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but Open and Women's playing different boards :(|pg||
nt|hackenbush: open room also in 3nt after a 1@d-2@c start|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is USA1 Semi-Final   winners advance to  USA1 Final    losers get second chance to become USA2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the two team will represent USA at October Venice Cup in The Netherlands|pg||
nt|ahollan1: team rosters online at http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_entries&event=21&task=list   if you click on specific pair that will bring up their System Summary Form|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: Hello all.|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: That's a very light game try by Meyers, but consistent with the agressive bidding we have seen in this match.|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
nt|swanson: There is a play for the contract if the @SQ was onside, but it is where the bidding tells you to expect it.|pg||
pc|cT|nt|peachy: Hi all, welcome back to the 4th/final segment of the quarterfinals|pg||
nt|peachy: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_entries&event=22&task=list, click on the player's name to see their System Summary|pg||
nt|peachy: Results in all matches after 3 segments http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USSBC2011/Bracket.php?stage=Roundof8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
nt|swanson: A heart return would likely have led to a 2-trick set, now declarer has the communication to try the spade finesse and ruff the club.|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h5|nt|peachy: If you'd like to follow two (or multiple) tables, http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/  or  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|nt|swanson: Declarer will get to ruff either a club or a spade (should West ruff in on the club).|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d7|pg||
pc|c7|nt|ybob: Good afternoon everyone|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s6|nt|swanson: Hi.|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o34|st||md|4SK9843HT86DAJTC63,S2HAQ532DK976CQT4,SAQ75HJ74D532CJ92,SJT6HK9DQ84CAK875|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: that's really good result for EW|pg||
mb|1C|nt|scotty: Declarer started well, but needed to play @sA, S to K then fourth club - and if W ruffed in pitch a spade|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or bad result for Moss   depends how you look at it|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: vul  4333 but Radin still kicks it up another level|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|nt|scotty: West must double to show values|pg||
nt|scotty: At matchpoints, E might pass....|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: but 4@c at imps|pg||
nt|ahollan1: seems reasonable here too -- especially at these colors|pg||
mb|4C|nt|ahollan1: Michael, why so sure not PASS?|pg||
nt|scotty: West will raise|pg||
nt|scotty: too risky at imps - change a club and a H with N-S to see why|pg||
nt|scotty: West is thinking, not S|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: is 4@C passable?|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|scotty: Notice if N-S stayed silent, E-W might not reach game - and if they did, it might well be 3N|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry  just trying to glean likelihood of 5@C vs 3@SX|pg||
pc|d2|nt|scotty: 4@c is certainly passable - but not with that hand.  More likely to subside when spades are 2-2 - no 3N and too many losers for 5@c|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Levin also bid 3@S  but Stansby sold out where Rosenberg DBL|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|c4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cA|mc|11|pg||
qx|c34|st||md|4SK9843HT86DAJTC63,S2HAQ532DK976CQT4,SAQ75HJ74D532CJ92,SJT6HK9DQ84CAK875|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: none of the pairs submitted convention cards :(|pg||
mb|1C|nt|ybob: @H 3/3 to win 4@H or 5@C here|pg||
nt|tez: hi all:)|pg||
nt|ybob: Hi :)|pg||
nt|tez: hi Roberto|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|swanson: A spade overcall and preemptive raise will annoy E-W, but they will still bid game.|pg||
mb|3S|nt|hackenbush: 14-16 NT for EW|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: hi all|pg||
nt|tez: dbl now|pg||
nt|ybob: now X and 4@C or 4@H ?|pg||
nt|swanson: 500 is adequate compensation for game should East pass a reopening double.|pg||
nt|tez: i would bid 4@h|pg||
nt|tez: to dbl|pg||
nt|swanson: (I would pass.)|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: Hi Barnet|pg||
mb|p|nt|hackenbush: should make easily, 4 clubs a heart and 2+ spades|pg||
nt|tez: hmmm.surprized pass|pg||
pc|c4|nt|henryb:  Interesting that Peter chose not to open 2@s in 3rd seat|pg||
nt|swanson: That was unexpected.  Shows how little they can rely on opening bid values for an opening bid.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|nt|barnets: he is at adverse vul|pg||
nt|peachy: I was thinking the same, opp passed partner red he perhaps thought it would bee too risky|pg||
nt|henryb:  Yes, but even so|pg||
nt|barnets: i wouldn't chance it|pg||
nt|peachy: North in other table also chose Pass|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Welcome back, to stay we hope|pg||
pc|hK|nt|barnets: well done|pg||
pc|h6|nt|Walddk4: And welcome to Ed Shapiro|pg||
nt|othered1: Hi, everyone!|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h9|nt|barnets: excellent contract|pg||
pc|hT|nt|ybob: If you bid 2@H, later you can´t pass to pree of opp at level 3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|c5|nt|peachy: To answer kibs, not Strong Club|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|tez: EW playing UDCA=up side down count attitude|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: inferences from failure for either opponent to play @D?     neither player has the @D honors this hand|pg||
pc|h3|nt|tez: king of @s and @s..play @d and claim|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg||
nt|barnets: gso deutsch will take lead|pg||
nt|barnets: sorry they are in lead|pg||
nt|peachy: System Summaries for all players here, click on the name http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_entries&event=22&task=list|pg||
nt|othered1: rehi, everyone|pg||
nt|peachy: Hi Ed :)|pg||
nt|ritong: hello everybody|pg||
nt|barnets: hi|pg||
nt|peachy: Henri:)|pg||
nt|barnets: in the other room strangely|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d2|nt|barnets: east passed 1@S in auction|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: I got the club play wrong|pg||
nt|barnets: after 1@C  P 1@H 1@s|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
mc|7|nt|swanson: When evaluating the merits of opening light, this hand must be applied to the debit side.|pg||
pg||
qx|o35|st||md|1SK965HT95D84CQT64,SAT8HK3DJ9CKJ9852,S2HQJ64DAKT76CA73,SQJ743HA872DQ532C|sv|e|nt|scotty: Their light opening style got to her, I guess - though it looks pretty normal to double|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so Seamon-Molson was in a no lose situation|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: probably easier these days to assume light opening and just refer to pairs who don't|pg||
nt|scotty: Northy will double|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: see?|pg||
mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: sorry  sun was in my eyes|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|pc|d9|nt|scotty: East has a pretty good hand if partner has 4-card support, but questionable if she should bid - a lot of red losers to take care of|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|ahollan1: flip flop West's red cards  and you'll see a good argument for transfers after 1@C-(1@D)|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|dT|nt|scotty: This can make on a cross ruff|pg||
pc|d5|pc|h9|pc|s8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: another difference in contract   Migry in 4@S|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|s3|pc|c4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c5|nt|scotty: that looks best - for both technical and psychological reasons|pg||
pc|c3|pc|s4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h2|pc|cT|pc|sT|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|s7|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: i've always loved hands where declarer never pulls trump|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg||
pc|h8|pc|s9|mc|9|nt|scotty: well played|pg||
pg||
qx|c35|st||md|1SK965HT95D84CQT64,SAT8HK3DJ9CKJ9852,S2HQJ64DAKT76CA73,SQJ743HA872DQ532C|sv|e|nt|barnets: east had opened a strong club|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|swanson: I except E-W to reach 4@S here, but it has no real chance of coming home.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|swanson: A takeout double is possible here by Levin.  That gives E-W as chance for a plus by defending.|pg||
mb|d|mb|3H|nt|othered1: NS still should be able to find 3N, but 5@D will work also, as cards lie|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Joel planning a 2-step to show good hand with 6@S & 4@C|pg||
nt|ahollan1: presumably with weaker hand she would rebid 2@S immediately|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|barnets: his is down a couple|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: Defending is for children - bid those games.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Andy Vinock|pg||
nt|barnets: e/w limit is 10 tricks in diamonds|pg||
nt|ritong: weichsel relatively lucky|pg||
pc|d8|nt|andyv:  good afternoon all|pg||
pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: this is nice -- i forgot to think about options if Sokolow bidding 2@D|pg||
nt|swanson: North can only lead one round of trumps, so the simple defense of winning two diamonds and shifting to a spade seems best.|pg||
nt|ybob: maybe E hopes supp 4th , the only reason to bid 3@H over X|pg||
nt|swanson: East might have redoubled 2@S to indicate a good hand and then listen to what partner has to say.|pg||
nt|ybob: agree|pg||
pc|dK|nt|othered1: 11 tricks likely here, too, as @SQ comes down while cashing out|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|s2|nt|hackenbush: natural to finesse trump now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right -- retain ability to ruff @H if finesse loses|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg||
nt|swanson: North shouldn't be concerned about solving a spade guess for declarer; the double has already given away the spade situation.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|nt|ritong: in that sense that 3@s is down, so the board was lost already  but yes, probably 4@d makes|pg||
pc|s4|pc|c4|pg||
pc|h7|nt|hackenbush: good shift, knockout late entry to spades|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: play was too fast -- i was contemplating @S @S ruff then @DJ|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|nt|swanson: South doesn't mind this cross ruff - her spades are looking better and better.|pg||
nt|tez: down 1|pg||
nt|tez: whats your choise with west hand..2@s or 2@c?|pg||
nt|ybob: ruff and @D ... ?|pg||
nt|tez: 1@s showed 4+ right?|pg||
nt|swanson: I expect that the 1@S bid showed five cards, so the raise is routine.|pg||
nt|tez: in europe 1@c 1@d 1 major 4+|pg||
nt|ybob: Both tables raise with 3 cards|pg||
nt|tez: 1@c 1@h 1@s 5+|pg||
nt|ybob: I play 1@S as 4 + over 1@D , X = 4/4 M´s|pg||
nt|bigtrain: mark me down for 2@C rebid|pg||
nt|swanson: Doesn't have to show five, but I would raise unless I knew for certain that partner held only four spades.|pg||
nt|tez: 1@c 1@d dbl shows both majors|pg||
nt|swanson: Some play that the negative double of 1@D is exactly four spades and four or more hearts (using the theory that you can bid spades, then hearts with five spades).|pg||
nt|tez: migry's connection bad:)|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: I think she will never play|pg||
pc|s7|pc|cT|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other room in 2@S   Stansby's 2@D over the 2@C rebid focused on @H|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hA|nt|hackenbush: oops unguarded spades|pg||
nt|ahollan1: did she really do that?|pg||
pc|h5|nt|andyv:  July|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ybob: now 4 ruffs to -1|pg||
nt|tez: if no ruff now..she makes|pg||
nt|ybob: no, can discard !|pg||
nt|ybob: @C|pg||
nt|tez: yep|pg||
nt|tez: or @h|pg||
nt|ybob: too|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|d6|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Smother makes it?|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|sT|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|sJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s6|nt|tez: nice try..1 down is no down|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o36|st||md|2SAQJ6H985DKT52CA7,SK3HAQT43DA9C9842,S8542HJ76D76CKT65,ST97HK2DQJ843CQJ3|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|scotty: South enters the fray|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: seems hard not to -- only @Hxx screams for pass|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: Radin:  "wonderful"|pg||
pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: @Hxxx    that 3rd x   is key detractor|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg||
nt|scotty: This will probably fail by a trick, with 2@h making|pg||
nt|ahollan1: was 1N forcing or Semi-Force?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|nt|scotty: I think Forcing|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: ah   I think that makes it tougher for Moss|pg||
nt|scotty: Club shift is inevitable - just thinking about which one|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|scotty: Shift is attitude, not count|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: and the hard to read @C4 = uncertainty :)|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: was @C better than @D here  or is it a wash|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|h4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg||
nt|scotty: Although the big cards (@dA and @sK) are offside, the little cards (@s9 and 10) are well placed - West could not ruff the @d|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c36|st||md|2SAQJ6H985DKT52CA7,SK3HAQT43DA9C9842,S8542HJ76D76CKT65,ST97HK2DQJ843CQJ3|sv|b|nt|ritong: passell's part is not very enterprising|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Lots of heated discussion|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i bet|pg||
mb|1H|nt|andyv:  3N here?|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: EW  1N=14-16 throughout   wonder if that means 2N = 19- something|pg||
nt|hackenbush: perhaps an upgrade|pg||
mb|2C|nt|othered1: some number of @H likely but 4 could be tricky.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: but West is 2N opener regardless of  how Walter the Walrus counts points|pg||
nt|hackenbush: but this will be an unhappy contract|pg||
nt|ahollan1: same in other room|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: North will balance with 2@S, having denies real values by passing over 2@H.|pg||
nt|swanson: denied|pg||
nt|tez: another part score swing coming?|pg||
mb|2S|nt|barnets: bad trump split puts this down 1|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: E-W will sell.|pg||
nt|tez: brave @h levin:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  so a vul game missed and a swing for Deutsch|pg||
mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|swanson: 3 hearts, 2 diamonds and 1 spade for the defense; nothing either side can do about it.|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|tez: S/W Have scereen.they sitting same place|pg||
nt|swanson: I would have guessed from the timing of the bids that East and South are on the same side of the screen.|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sQ|nt|othered1: north's 3@H is unnderstandable and catches south with  the perfect flat minimum|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Migry led @Sx   [and it was her artificial 2@D last hand not stansby]|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|d8|nt|ahollan1: Joel's @S2 says  i can't help @S    Sokolow knows @C is wrong   that seems to limit her choices|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|ybob: interesting choice if W had K9x or K10X, uppercout to defeat by 1 on 2@S|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: That is correct|pg||
nt|ybob: 4th round @H if that ...|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Sorry, not correct, E and N on same side|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg||
nt|swanson: It would be a good try, but declarer could discard a diamond on the fourth round of hearts.|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dQ|nt|barnets: deutsch gained 6 imps on last hand when poor defense|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|barnets: allowed 3@S to make with 5 losers|pg||
nt|ybob: same ..|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: isn't it nice that rules haven't outlawed inferences|pg||
pc|s9|nt|hackenbush: yes well defended|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|d5|pc|h4|pc|s5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|s6|pc|c4|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o37|st||md|3SAT63H532DT73CJT2,SJ8HKQ98DA92CK864,SKQ72HT64DKJ85CA7,S954HAJ7DQ64CQ953|sv|n|nt|scotty: it was a wash|pg||
nt|ahollan1: solid start for EW|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Radin opening with EXTRAs|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: 2@S probably promises 4   [rdbl with 3]|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|scotty: E-W hand here - they can make 3@c and N-S 1@s - so no imp swing on whether you defend 21s or bid over it|pg||
mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg||
mc|9|nt|Vugraphzfk: short break|pg||
nt|ahollan1: an easy hand -- unexpected anomaly|pg||
nt|ahollan1: winners of today's matches advance to USA1 Finals   losers  drop into USA2 bracket|pg||
pg||
qx|c37|st||md|3SAT63H532DT73CJT2,SJ8HKQ98DA92CK864,SKQ72HT64DKJ85CA7,S954HAJ7DQ64CQ953|sv|n|nt|andyv:  3N here|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|barnets: lucky card lie allows a slam to make here|pg||
mb|d|nt|swanson: The ACBL dealing program is in a funk.|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ritong: undo pls|pg||
mb|3C|nt|ritong: ?|pg||
nt|barnets: this shows a strong diamond suit|pg||
nt|barnets: north may bid more|pg||
nt|barnets: slam is less than 50 percent|pg||
nt|barnets: needing no trump loser|pg||
nt|peachy: Curiously enough, NS system summary shows 2D = 1Major|pg||
nt|barnets: north may use key card|pg||
nt|barnets: to find out about the trump Q|pg||
nt|ritong: would you, barnet?|pg||
nt|barnets: that is if he knows how to bid it|pg||
nt|barnets: souths diamonds should be at worst what he is showing with 3N|pg||
nt|barnets: he could have AKQ xxx|pg||
nt|ritong: that s ok, but still|pg||
nt|peachy: Is it possible S forgot they played 2D artificial|pg||
nt|barnets: 4@D shold be RKC|pg||
nt|barnets: do they play 2@D as artificial ?|pg||
nt|barnets: if they do he forgot|pg||
nt|hackenbush: this double is aggressive, unfav opposite passed partner when you have to bid at 2-level|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: she may as well try 2@D|pg||
mb|p|nt|hackenbush: and they have the boss suit|pg||
pc|d3|nt|andyv:  very little to this hand unless E overbids his values|pg||
nt|peachy: Yes, 2D = 1 Major|pg||
nt|barnets: i think 2@D is natural and weak|pg||
nt|daman: we are starting with Board 5     we missed the first 4 boards    will catch up with them later|pg||
nt|daman: 3@D now by South should show this sort of hand    but 3NT is a stone on the layout|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|nt|barnets: how do you know this raija?|pg||
nt|daman: pass was not on my radar|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|swanson: The play on this hand is dependent on deciding which defender is more likely to hold the doubleton ace of clubs.  An easy choice off the auction.|pg||
pc|sK|nt|othered1: some west's might open, which could facilitate getting a bit high . . . |pg||
nt|peachy: System Summary is 100% clear, so either the summary submitted is wrong, or S forgot|pg||
nt|barnets: well the summary submitted must be wrong|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|barnets: opposite a weak major|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|peachy: Actually, It was not clear, I was looking wrong!!!!!!|pg||
nt|ybob: clear hand to E, N have 4@D after the lead and 4@S, S can´t have 4@H so N is 4342|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|nt|barnets: north would not have stopped in 3N|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|peachy: The summaru is right, I was wrong|pg||
nt|barnets: np|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|nt|ritong: 10 comparisons left after that one|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: The A took the 3rd club|pg||
nt|barnets: he can afford a diamond finesse now|pg||
nt|ritong: cards begin to weight a bit more than usuall|pg||
nt|barnets: the contract is in no danger|pg||
nt|barnets: only overtricks|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: North must have thought the weak action was her partner's DBL|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c3|nt|barnets: so thats 1 lost imp|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o38|st||md|4S9752HT9DAKJT87C9,SAQJ6HK3D9653CA52,SKTHQJ8742D4CQ863,S843HA65DQ2CKJT74|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: it is much more complicated in the Seniors event|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: ok - ready to go|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: NS use 2@H opening as weak with @H & @S  so 2@D covers the normal 2@H/@S openers|pg||
mb|2N|nt|ahollan1: Moss' only choices were PASS/1@D/3@D|pg||
nt|scotty: S passes - if she eschewed 2D because of her 4-card @s suit, I admire her discipline|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|scotty: On this hand, 2@d might have ended it....|pg||
nt|scotty: Now let's see what she leads|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|h2|nt|scotty: you have a @d partner? - THANK YOU|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|h4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d8|nt|scotty: Declarer can be sure @sk is offside - @c Q less clear, but probably with N|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: their 2@D is majors|pg||
pc|s6|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: sorry  NS 2@D opener always @H|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|d7|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
nt|scotty: I was wondering - ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: sry, yes, but not weak with diamonds|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|nt|scotty: hidden advantage of the convention here|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|mc|7|pg||
qx|c38|st||md|4S9752HT9DAKJT87C9,SAQJ6HK3D9653CA52,SKTHQJ8742D4CQ863,S843HA65DQ2CKJT74|sv|e|nt|barnets: he had a safe fineesse for 12 tricks|pg||
mb|p|nt|tez: 3@d pls:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: Antoher possible 1N opening, but this may go less quietly\|pg||
nt|ybob: 2@D :) at second seat|pg||
mb|1D|nt|andyv:  S hand rich in high card points but poor in playing quality|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Levin still thought East was 1@S opener|pg||
nt|hackenbush: maybe they play equal-level conversion, where if North bids 2@c, and South 2@d showing @h+@d but not extras|pg||
nt|ahollan1: after 1@S-DBL    3N north|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@S really put pressure on NS|pg||
nt|hackenbush: another close double decision with Joel, here only 3 hearts with minimum values, but singleton spade|pg||
mb|2H|nt|peachy: I have to go, will leave you all in the capable hands of Barnet Shenkin, Ed Shapiro, and Henri "ritong" Schweitzer. Thx all|pg||
nt|hackenbush: a good question to ask in these situation is, "do I want to defend"?|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Brief Restroom Break|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does radin action red vs white  affect Joel's decision of PASS vs DBL?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: beats me|pg||
nt|ahollan1: full credit to Radin for decision to open 2@S|pg||
mb|2N|nt|andyv:  the spot cards are not good|pg||
nt|andyv:  N will raise|pg||
nt|swanson: Seem right to have some bid in your arsenal which shows this diamond suit.|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: bye|pg||
nt|ritong: ciao raija|pg||
nt|othered1: bye|pg||
mb|3N|nt|andyv:  and S should bid the game|pg||
nt|andyv:  his Ks should all be working|pg||
nt|andyv:  a @c lead will do 4@h in though|pg||
nt|mr murray: 5 diamonds down 1|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: good x by east in open|pg||
nt|barnets: he knew his partner had 1 spade on auction|pg||
nt|barnets: so he knew he was taking first 4 tricks|pg||
nt|othered1: But what if partner had 0 @S?|pg||
nt|barnets: and his partner had 1 for luck|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  so, the luck element once again enters|pg||
mb|p|pc|dK|nt|mr murray: yes|pg||
nt|barnets: still had chances|pg||
nt|tez: dont lead j of @d:)|pg||
nt|swanson: I hope South doesn't get tricky and lead the @DJ!|pg||
nt|ybob: i choice 3@D in 1st or 3th position|pg||
nt|tez: but you have T of @d|pg||
pc|d3|nt|andyv:  hi Murray|pg||
nt|mr murray: hi|pg||
nt|mr murray: 4 hearts not making|pg||
nt|andyv:  right|pg||
nt|othered1: well  you do pretty much need to bring in @C with one loser but game is likely good enough vul|pg||
nt|barnets: to beat it|pg||
nt|barnets: i like the x|pg||
nt|daman: North should pass|pg||
nt|ahollan1: defending 2@S when 6@D actually has a [single dummy] play    conclusion: sometimes preempts work|pg||
pc|d4|nt|othered1: 3N would have better play as cards lie|pg||
nt|andyv:  both rooms should get to 4@h..only question is whether EW will take the 5@d push|pg||
nt|othered1: more like will west solo to 5@D, since east doesn't have much positive  to say with those tricks in defense|pg||
nt|andyv:  and spec points out that 4@s is another possible EW contract|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|othered1: So do I|pg||
nt|barnets: and will be a nice swing for lynch|pg||
pc|dA|nt|othered1: unless they get the ruffs right now, then a lesser swing|pg||
pc|d5|nt|tez: nonevuln:)|pg||
pc|h2|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|othered1: I think 4@S has more disaster potential than 5@D|pg||
nt|andyv:  I agree...the handling problems would be very difficult esp. if W hand gets tapped|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h4|nt|daman: looks like declarer will make at least 9 tricks|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|swanson: After South shows with six diamond to the AKJ there isn't any possibility she also holds the @SK so declarer will take the winning club finesse.|pg||
nt|tez: probably equal|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|c8|nt|hackenbush: or possibly the player with shortness has to be more aggressive|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|d8|pc|s6|nt|daman: @D King now|pg||
nt|ybob: anyway squeezed 3 suits|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d7|pc|sJ|nt|tez: another @d for sqz:)|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: probably   but point is   make 'em guess often enough, they'll guess wrong|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c7|nt|othered1: just in case east opened 1N with stiff @H|pg||
pc|s2|pc|cA|nt|daman: uncle|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o39|st||md|1SK985HAQ8DQT5C874,SQJT4HJ95DJ7643CJ,S62HKT3DAK9CAKQ32,SA73H7642D82CT965|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: meyers levin won't be able to open 2@D either|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: Rosenberg:  I was afraid opening a diamond would be bad for the lead -- [laughter]|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|scotty: N-S have a bad slam here - needs a finesses and a break.  They get the finesse....|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but Moss may just bid 3N, right?|pg||
mb|3C!|nt|ahollan1: wrong again al|pg||
nt|scotty: This seems like a sensible start|pg||
nt|ahollan1: alert must mean Puppet Stayman|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H!|nt|scotty: 3@h probably shows no major - this version of Puppet is becoming more popular|pg||
mb|p|mb|4N|nt|ahollan1: have you seen this variation Michael??|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfk: Radin:  passed hand; enough|pg||
nt|ahollan1: meaning  no 5 OR 4  or just no 5?|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hQ|nt|scotty: Will declarer duck @cJ?|pg||
nt|scotty: It is the perfect safety play|pg||
nt|scotty: no 4 or 5|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
nt|scotty: sound play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Radin has a few world championships -- no surprise she found duck|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c39|st||md|1SK985HAQ8DQT5C874,SQJT4HJ95DJ7643CJ,S62HKT3DAK9CAKQ32,SA73H7642D82CT965|sv|b|nt|andyv:  6@d |pg||
nt|othered1: Those 3 imps on the previous board become more significant . . . |pg||
nt|barnets: yes north would not want to lose by 2 or 3|pg||
nt|daman: South will open 1NT|pg||
nt|hackenbush: potential fireworks here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: will Moss bid over 1@H?  shape nice, suits bad  and vul ....|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other room in 10!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: East will bid 2@S    and that will end the auction     |pg||
nt|ahollan1: 10@H  [5@HX]|pg||
mb|2N|nt|othered1: Make a large number of @D EW, but that may be the 4th suit and could be hard to find|pg||
nt|hackenbush: too weak for michaels, if better spades then 1@s|pg||
nt|swanson: This is a reasonable slam - until clubs go 4-1.|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: this must be multi landy?|pg||
nt|daman: 2@D = one major|pg||
mb|3C|nt|andyv:  E's @h bid will make it harder to get to the slam|pg||
nt|othered1: Every time I make a contrarian play like that, turns out it was contrary to *our* success |pg||
nt|barnets: 4@S is the winning bid here|pg||
nt|othered1: And was made in the OR|pg||
nt|barnets: although 3N may make|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|nt|daman: 2H = pass or correct|pg||
nt|ahollan1: same start -- but Jill Meyers balanced with West hand|pg||
nt|hackenbush: another close decision to double, with Radin's hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|tez: not good percantage slam..|pg||
mb|3N|nt|barnets: club lead is best|pg||
nt|barnets: now dec cant set up spades|pg||
nt|barnets: and has only 8 top tricks|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: but west is known to hold 7 @hs|pg||
nt|barnets: but can make a ninth in hearts|pg||
nt|ritong: big bob would not open 3@h a six bagger first seat at equal vul, would he?|pg||
nt|hackenbush: if you can trust partner to pass when it's right, then you can double 4@h more often|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or close for Moss to re-open|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|andyv:  E should raise here|pg||
nt|othered1: yes, but @H bid opposite void won't improve west hand a whole lot.|pg||
nt|othered1: What would west open with 4=1=4=4?|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hQ|nt|daman: EW were going to make 2@S     that was a very bold and competitive bid by North|pg||
nt|ybob: 630 next ...|pg||
pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: i think easier for Moss than Radin|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|c4|nt|barnets: yes a spec points out|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|nt|andyv:  Bob makes the efficient bid|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|andyv:  in OR, 4@h was bid and made|pg||
pc|cK|nt|barnets: that west may duck a heart lead|pg||
nt|barnets: in the end game|pg||
nt|barnets: giving dec a losing option|pg||
pc|c6|nt|barnets: maybe|pg||
pc|c7|nt|hackenbush: can really go for a number though with West hand, if South has extras instead of East|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|ybob: K98x @S is safety to 600 or 660|pg||
nt|tez: duck j of @c and give 1 imp to opps every hand:)|pg||
pc|c3|nt|barnets: like to see it though|pg||
pc|cT|nt|barnets: after dec cashes his 4 diamonds|pg||
pc|c8|nt|andyv:  a @c was led and W never got his ruff|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|swanson: East is going to have to underlead the @SA to get three tricks - otherwise North will cash all the winners and lead towards the spade.|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ritong: weichsel is known to hold three aces|pg||
nt|barnets: and leads a heart|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ybob: now small @S = 630, OTHERS 660|pg||
nt|swanson: No, East can hold on to a long heart.|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hT|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d6|nt|barnets: west must play low|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|ritong: including @s Ax|pg||
pc|c9|pc|h8|nt|tez: i bet 660 here|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|h6|nt|barnets: and dec must play the 10|pg||
nt|ritong: so, he likely has a double @h stop|pg||
pc|s5|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|nt|ritong: nice duel|pg||
nt|barnets: great play all round |pg||
pc|s8|nt|barnets: very nice to lose just 2 imps|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|d9|nt|othered1: Good question raised whether 2@S would have been better rebid for west than 1@S.  Shortness in partners suit and real third suit were indications.  Often players have extras when 2 ...|pg||
nt|othered1: or 3-suiters are in play|pg||
pc|d8|nt|daman: making 3@D|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|dT|pc|sT|pc|dK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s2|mc|11|pg||
qx|o40|st||md|2ST92H8762DKQT8CAQ,SAJ85HKJT3D94CK32,SK43HD6532CJT9876,SQ76HAQ954DAJ7C54|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: In the other match  Sprung lead down to 11|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|scotty: The 4-0 trump break may complicate this simple-looking hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Joe keeps wanting NS to double final contract|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: i keep leaving out a final pass or 2 and then hitting "D" for diamond lead|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg||
nt|scotty: Declarer will probably duck this - it might not be clear to S if she needed to find a club switch....|pg||
nt|scotty: whereas winning the @d later, it would be clearer|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|cJ|nt|scotty: As it is, she has nothing to play except a trump|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|scotty: i think a higher trump would have been a better choice - though it shouldn't matter here|pg||
pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: does declarer have a line that doesn't require @CA onside?|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well that makes it easier|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|hT|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hJ|mc|10|pg||
qx|c40|st||md|2ST92H8762DKQT8CAQ,SAJ85HKJT3D94CK32,SK43HD6532CJT9876,SQ76HAQ954DAJ7C54|sv|o|nt|hackenbush: nevertheless big pickup for Joel to tighten the match|pg||
mb|1C|nt|daman: Joel is off the schneid     gained 3 IMPs on board6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so   bidding is dangerous   and passing is dangerous    tough game|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  4@h will make on good guess of @s or a @s lead|pg||
mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: 2@H=weak  5/4+ in  @H & @S|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H!|nt|andyv:  now it will make all the time|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|nt|othered1: and where does the @D loser go?|pg||
nt|daman: North will bid 3NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  details details|pg||
nt|ritong: checking the four cards support|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hackenbush: will do well to get out for down 1, late endplay in diamonds|pg||
nt|swanson: 1@D is a transfer to hearts.  West shows a minimum range opening bid and four hearts with 2@H.|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dK|nt|barnets: too high|pg||
nt|othered1: Just another pushy game you shouldn't bid non-vul, but can't avoid if east's hand is an opening bid in your methods|pg||
nt|ritong: mm|pg||
nt|ritong: a standard push, i d say|pg||
nt|othered1: since it's become standard to open east's hand, it is indeed a standard push|pg||
nt|ybob: A@C and K @D to 10 tricks |pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|nt|daman: she might duck a @S now|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|h4|nt|daman: not an easy hand|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|c9|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer needs to ruff a diamond in the West hand after discovering the 4-0 trump split.|pg||
pc|d9|nt|Walddk4: http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USSBC2011/Bracket.php?stage=Roundof8  for half-time scores in all matches|pg||
nt|othered1: This still can go down|pg||
nt|othered1: But I think east has to attack @D then west must score @H ruff, but it may be tricky to find|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg||
mc|10|nt|swanson: We need a halftime entertainment show.|pg||
nt|ybob: :)|pg||
nt|swanson: Maybe some sideline cheerleaders?|pg||
nt|swanson: The ladies are on a break.  Seems a long break.|pg||
nt|swanson: I think Migry enjoys a cigarette now and then also.|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Back from Smoke Break|pg||
pg||
qx|o41|st||md|3ST43HAK96D954CT97,SK8HJT4DKQJ7CK654,S962H752DT8632CAQ,SAQJ75HQ83DACJ832|sv|e|nt|scotty: Of course, spades 3-3 and she could pitch the club|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other table only on  37|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: 3@C or 3@D now?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: good-o   splinter with stiff A or K is ugly|pg||
nt|scotty: With bthe stiff ACE, East chooses not to splinter|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 3@D probably probe for NT|pg||
nt|scotty: They may reach 4@s here - which can be defeated 2 tricks|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: first find right game   |pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg||
nt|scotty: Each player was scared of the hearts|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg||
nt|scotty: Now only 1 trick|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|nt|scotty: still cannot make|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: did Debbie have other options over the DBL?   seems there should be a way to confirm both players have partial stoppers in @H|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|c2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|c3|mc|9|pg||
qx|c41|st||md|3ST43HAK96D954CT97,SK8HJT4DKQJ7CK654,S962H752DT8632CAQ,SAQJ75HQ83DACJ832|sv|e|nt|barnets: 7 comparisons left in the match|pg||
nt|hackenbush: we see once again the danger in competing with length in opponent's suit|pg||
nt|swanson: Maybe there was a line at the restroom.|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: We think they smoked 2|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Walddk4: Good evening to Bill Frisby|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|andyv:  hi Bill|pg||
nt|athene: hi good evening everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: if n/s were vul I would bid 4|pg||
nt|ybob: only cold 3NT|pg||
mb|3D!|nt|barnets: but non vul|pg||
nt|barnets: partner could have less and game bonus is less|pg||
nt|daman: EW must be plaing 14-16 NT    or precision|pg||
nt|daman: y*|pg||
nt|daman: I am informed14-16 NT|pg||
nt|ybob: sry not here|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i don't know the recommended defense against that 2@H opener  --  wouldn't be surprised if DBL did show bal hand|pg||
nt|hackenbush: it probably does|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Sokolow over 2@S  --  tough  give credit to the EW system|pg||
mb|3N|nt|daman: 6 more for Joel on Board 7|pg||
nt|hackenbush: but from South's perspective, needs partner to have a max to have a shot at 3nt, and might not even make 14 vs 11 with no source of tricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: true  partner was passed hand|pg||
nt|ybob: yes here :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: @s to the A, back to dummy and another @s, right?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: with four spade tricks declarer just wants to get the trumps drawn, but it's slightly awkward to get to dummy fast|pg||
nt|athene: if he wants to take advantage of the free finesse|pg||
nt|andyv:  with no @s losers, he may just play A@h and @h|pg||
nt|barnets: @SA yes|pg||
nt|swanson: E-W will be in game here.  4@S is down, but 3NT is on.|pg||
nt|ybob: AQ stiff @C|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ybob: 4@S was -2 if guessed|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|nt|barnets: in other room he played a club now|pg||
nt|daman: hard not to lead @Cs|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|tez: play @h..safe|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|nt|ritong: yes, say you lose a @d ruff now, you do not lose the @h anymore|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer will grind it out looking for an overtrick, but by that time she will have nine in the bank.|pg||
pc|d9|nt|hackenbush: 9 or 10 tricks here after ruffing a diamond|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|c2|pg||
nt|athene: not sure you can afford to give up on the trump finesse quite that happily - if trumps are 3-1, and the defender with @HKxx plays a third round, you only have nine tricks|pg||
pc|hT|nt|swanson: Guarding against 5-1 spades.|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ritong: unless the lead was stiff K|pg||
nt|daman: South has a "surround" in @Ss|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d6|nt|andyv:  then you have to be unlucky in both minors|pg||
nt|athene: i guess he was hoping something good would happen, and he doesn't want to incur a spade ruff|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|c3|pc|s3|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: found recommended defense of that 2@H opening http://web2.acbl.org/defensedatabase/2c.htm|pg||
nt|ahollan1: DBL should have been takeout for @C & @D|pg||
pc|c8|nt|daman: no more tricks for EW |pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|sK|mc|10|nt|daman: well   that isn't true either|pg||
pg||
qx|o42|st||md|4S9653H2DK9832CKQ6,SQ4HAT973DJ6CAJ98,SAKT82HKJ8DT5C732,SJ7HQ654DAQ74CT54|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: i assume  Seamon-Molson's 3@H was "4th suit"|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: It was natural to bid her Hx in spades - remember, she did not know about stiff @d, so pictured a doubleton heart|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: too right|pg||
mb|3S|nt|scotty: Still, she might have taken advantage of the double and passed - but not clear what East would have done then|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: but i'm greedy   seems they should be able to have it all|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c4|nt|scotty: Seems like East might have bid 3N over 3S - that miht even have been her plan, but the double scared her|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|c6|mc|10|pg||
qx|c42|st||md|4S9653H2DK9832CKQ6,SQ4HAT973DJ6CAJ98,SAKT82HKJ8DT5C732,SJ7HQ654DAQ74CT54|sv|b|nt|andyv:  if that happens to you, don't go to the tables in Vegas|pg||
nt|ybob: i don´t like show stiff with A but here works fine|pg||
nt|swanson: North might have help her partner by playing the @D10 on the the second round.  That would have saved the overtick.|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: will north open 1N or 1@D?|pg||
nt|athene: 1@D 1@S 2@D double, seems a possible start|pg||
mb|p|nt|hackenbush: Will Moss open in 3rd?|pg||
mb|1H|nt|athene: i'm a bit surprised he opened 1nt - not because of the 5422 but just because it's a bit good|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but reliable source tells me  "dbl was 13-15 or 19-plus bal but not essential with that hand opposite a ph"|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ritong: hamman sticks to his convictions|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: 1@H far from obligatory|pg||
nt|hackenbush: 2@d looks like a good raise to 2@h|pg||
nt|ybob: now 3@H or 3@S ?|pg||
nt|ybob: i like 3@H|pg||
mb|3H|nt|ritong: passing 12 decent|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: end of auction, I presume|pg||
nt|ritong: quacks, etc|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D transfer   [better raise than 2@H]|pg||
nt|hackenbush: and North should double again|pg||
nt|swanson: Too much playing strength for 3@S.  3@H invites game.|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|daman: I don't know if 2@H is controls or not|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: and NS earns 50, rather than the 130 that *might* have been attainable|pg||
nt|barnets: X could get 500  now if they pass it|pg||
mb|p|pc|h4|pc|h2|nt|ybob: O.R. bids 3@S over 2@S|pg||
nt|swanson: A club lead would hold the contract to nine tricks, but East has no reason to lead anything but a heart.|pg||
pc|hA|nt|barnets: xx was 3 card support|pg||
nt|hackenbush: then again, defending is right if they're only in a 7-card fit|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|daman: 3@C was Puppet|pg||
pc|s4|nt|andyv:  or 120|pg||
nt|athene: having given up control in trumps, north has to be a bit worried about declarer running the spades|pg||
nt|athene: you might expect him to try to cash out in the minors - he would have to find his partner with one king and get him in to lead to the other AQ|pg||
pc|sA|nt|barnets: and 3@Sx showed extra values|pg||
nt|barnets: sorry 3@Dx |pg||
nt|barnets: showed extras|pg||
nt|barnets: looking at all the hands you can make 10 tricks in spades|pg||
pc|s7|nt|daman: 3@H showed no major|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|athene: but i guess he just didn't want to commit to one or other suit|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer is not a lock for 9 tricks should spades be 3-1 and the @DA in the West hand.|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
nt|athene: maybe north's heart spot should be suit preference for the minors|pg||
nt|swanson: Things looking good now.|pg||
pc|c5|nt|athene: sorry|pg||
nt|ritong: bramley now knows his pard had 3@d for his t/o double|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|nt|athene: maybe south's heart spot|pg||
nt|hackenbush: have to get a club ruff to beat it now|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|ybob: after cue by E one Ace there|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Levin is playing very slowly|pg||
nt|swanson: East should duck the diamond to give the defense any chance.  If West wins the @DJ and returns the @CJ it might get interesting.|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: I'm not sure we'll ever finish lol|pg||
nt|ybob: now she needs only 4/2 @D |pg||
nt|ybob: @S to K, @D to K @D ruff , @H ruff, @D ruff|pg||
nt|ybob: ruff both @H´s to go to the 5th @D and discard|pg||
pc|dK|nt|barnets: dec can guess spades now then give up 2 hearts|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Director, please|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|andyv:  good result for EW|pg||
nt|othered1: Interesting that a natural 1@D opening likely would have facilitated the defense|pg||
nt|ritong: time considerations?|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ahollan1: are you sure about that??|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: She must have a blind spot|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Even Weichsel would have finished in 2 minutes max|pg||
nt|ybob: :)|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ritong: am i wrong supposing weichsel wanted to signal slow opponents?|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: Joel has the trump tenace|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|swanson: This is an attempt to go set - should East by some chance have started with a doubleton club.|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h5|nt|hackenbush: true, they just have to avoid blowing a black suit trick|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so @D tap works too|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'd be much more confident at the table :)|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|nt|vugraphzff: Peter wants some coffee|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
pc|s5|mc|10|pg||
qx|o43|st||md|1SA873HKTDAJ963CA9,SQ952HJ72D2CKQ752,SKH9864DQ754CJT86,SJT64HAQ53DKT8C43|sv|o|nt|scotty: Lucky game that was for N-S - no reason to be there|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N always 14-16   this hand looks too good to me|pg||
nt|scotty: Used to be that experts looked askance at 1N on this shape - no longer true|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: some might think South too good for 15-17 NT    [KnR says it is worth 18.10]|pg||
nt|scotty: May get @d right to protect @hK, but the good heart spots in dummy make this unnecessary|pg||
pc|s5|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h2|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg||
nt|scotty: It may be a little too good, but if you bid 1@d-1@h, 1S-1N, 2N, or 1@d-1N, 2N you may well wrongside NT|pg||
pc|d7|nt|scotty: As against that, if partner has 4-card @s and about 7 HCP, you may miss game with 1N opening|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d3|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cK|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: so there you have it   1N is absolutely the right decision except when 1@D is absolutely the right decision|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c43|st||md|1SA873HKTDAJ963CA9,SQ952HJ72D2CKQ752,SKH9864DQ754CJT86,SJT64HAQ53DKT8C43|sv|o|nt|vugraphzff: There isn't support in this room at all|pg||
nt|barnets: chance for lynch here|pg||
nt|barnets: n/s can make a lot of clubs|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, clearly so|pg||
nt|barnets: in open north bid an artificial 1N which i believe showed clubs|pg||
nt|barnets: but south never supported|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Peter has his coffee|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not sure about the rest of you   but i really enjoy watching good defense|pg||
mb|1D|nt|andyv:  might even have won the auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: even if south's heart WAS suit-pref, he didn't really have any preference between the minors :)|pg||
mb|1H|nt|ritong: reaching game would be an achievement  winning the partials battle will bring in 6 already|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: NS can make @Cs or @Ds|pg||
nt|daman: South should pass|pg||
nt|daman: here is the vugraph sked for future matches      http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
mb|1S|nt|barnets: well game is lucky with @CK falling|pg||
nt|othered1: and you  have to get the position right if you're as  high as 5|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  all roads lead to 3NT|pg||
nt|hackenbush: now how will South get her values across...|pg||
mb|2D|nt|barnets: you could play east for kX club|pg||
nt|barnets: doubleton|pg||
nt|barnets: that loses here|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Lots of alert explanations|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C game force   jump to 3N should show 1N strength [but some flaw for 1N open]|pg||
nt|hackenbush: and we have our answer|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2N would be less or more than 1N opening strength|pg||
nt|ybob: 130 here i hope|pg||
mb|3D|nt|barnets: same bidding|pg||
nt|ritong: next board is promising as well|pg||
nt|barnets: now it went all pass|pg||
nt|ahollan1: it was probably a close call for Joel|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: maybe Passell was playing his partner for the @SK rather than a minor-suit king|pg||
nt|othered1: 1N says they never bypass 4-card majors in responding to 1@C|pg||
nt|athene: but Hamman would more likely be aggressive with both major kings|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: and if south does have the @SK then @DA and @DQ is sure to beat the contract even if it gives hamman his @DK - they will get the @CAQ when south gets in|pg||
nt|barnets: in other room|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: and so it goes|pg||
pc|cK|nt|barnets: personally i think if north shows a club suit|pg||
nt|barnets: south should support him|pg||
nt|barnets: but that my view  who knows|pg||
nt|daman: this will be down quickly    once East wins the @C Ace     EW will cash 2 @Hs|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg||
nt|ritong: rather weird, yes  a ten cards fit buried in both rooms|pg||
nt|othered1: @DQ doesn't look very positive and @S were bid on his left, but still A9x is above expectations|pg||
nt|barnets: 1N shows clubs to all specs|pg||
nt|barnets: north has bid his suit with 1N|pg||
nt|ahollan1: she was going to guess the @H10 anyway|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg||
nt|barnets: I am not sure on their system what 2@C would mean|pg||
nt|ritong: operator, can you confirm there was no alert of 1 NT please?|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Alerted|pg||
pc|d4|nt|ritong: ok thanks|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|c7|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
nt|athene: when south responds 1@D here it's not saying "I have no 4-card major" but it is saying "you can ignore your 4-card majors to rebid 1nt, i will check back for them if i want to"|pg||
nt|barnets: in the other room 1N was clearly alerted to show clubs?|pg||
nt|barnets: can you say if it was clearly alerted here ?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: pause = negotiating claim|pg||
pc|c9|nt|hackenbush: if East had played back a low heart, inserting @h9 is indicated from restricted choice, besides the fact that East might've tried @hK or spade from @hKQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: please let that be the case|pg||
nt|swanson: It seems a bit out of charater that Jill Meyers didn't open 1NT.  The hand does offer significant potential should partner have a big pointed suit fit.|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg||
nt|ritong: mary said so|pg||
nt|barnets: if 1n showed clubs 2@C would likely be a cue bid , as would 2@D|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: I'm Gary and the alerts were lengthy, though I couldn't see or hear them|pg||
nt|barnets: thanks gary|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Mary fell into the river hehe|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: I'm not responsible, don't know how to change it|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ritong: never mind  no big deal|pg||
mc|10|nt|vugraphzff: The pace has slowed to zero|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: high pressure|pg||
nt|barnets: finished in open room now|pg||
nt|barnets: very tight match and exciting boards to come|pg||
nt|daman: claim|pg||
pg||
qx|o44|st||md|2SJ2H942DAJ86532C8,SKT965HAKD7CKQJ97,SAQ3HQJT6DQ9CAT63,S874H8753DKT4C542|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: that's what keeps us coming back to the table|pg||
nt|scotty: 1@c from West|pg||
mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: don't tell Steve Robinson|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2N!|an|diamonds|nt|scotty: Exciting diamond position in 3N|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2N transfer  to @D  -- but what's the plan after that|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|scotty: Vulnerability made this easy for West|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i wonder if 4@C is re-transfer|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not if it is the right bid -- just if it is an option|pg||
nt|scotty: East, with her only value in @d facing W likely shortness, has no problem|pg||
mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|scotty: But 5@d was going to make|pg||
nt|scotty: I think 3N might have made on a spade lead, too|pg||
nt|ahollan1: expect other room to go   1@S-1N-P-2N//3@C     what a huge difference|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
nt|scotty: Declarer will expect @dA onside, I think|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|d2|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|d5|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: cute   position from failure to play Q|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c7|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i guess cute position if she does cover too|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c44|st||md|2SJ2H942DAJ86532C8,SKT965HAKD7CKQJ97,SAQ3HQJT6DQ9CAT63,S874H8753DKT4C542|sv|n|nt|daman: EW willend up in a lazy 4@H|pg||
nt|daman: eventually|pg||
nt|ahollan1: site hasn't been updated  but session scores should show up at http://www.ask.com/web?q=weather:&o=101703&l=dis&qsrc=2871|pg||
nt|ahollan1: not even close al|pg||
mb|1S|nt|daman: 2@D is transfer preempt, showing weak 2 bid in hearts|pg||
nt|ahollan1: http://usbf.org/docs/vugraphs/USWBC2011/Bracket.php?stage=SemiFinals|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|andyv:  lucky slam hand here|pg||
nt|andyv:  4@c now|pg||
nt|andyv:  spec likes responsive dbl here|pg||
nt|athene: 4@C from north, 5@C from east is quite possible|pg||
nt|othered1: 4@C might be a bit pushy.  Maybe dangerous responsive double|pg||
nt|daman: if they open 2@H    it is weak with both majors|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3NT?|pg||
nt|ybob: with @S lead N-S win 3NT|pg||
nt|ybob: only this lead|pg||
nt|swanson: 3NT is quite reasonable here - and will make unless East ducks the @DQ and declarer misguess on the second round.|pg||
mb|2N|nt|andyv:  I like 4@c|pg||
nt|hackenbush: on the news they sad the weather in the midwest is the hottest in 5 years|pg||
mb|3C|nt|othered1: 5@C by east / 4@C lets south make a forcing pass, w hich may help their auction|pg||
nt|daman: 2NT asks    3@C shows a bad hand|pg||
nt|daman: Ogustish|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ritong: repeating @hs will show 6/5|pg||
nt|barnets: slam is not wonderfull but it makes|pg||
nt|barnets: just one entry to south hand|pg||
nt|ritong: the question is: at which level|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: wonder why south didn't bid 4@D?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: which 5?   [sorry  i gotta be me]|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  when pd asks you to pick a major, do you like to torment him by bidding the other minor?|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|hackenbush: @sT will be an encouraging card for Moss, partner ostensibly showing @sHx|pg||
nt|swanson: West might have bid 4@C over 3NT, being unwilling to allow the opponents a shot at a vulnerable 3NT.|pg||
pc|h3|nt|barnets: every imp is vital now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: good time to distinguish  serious vs non-serious slam tries|pg||
pc|h9|nt|andyv:  this should be over quickly...S will take the @s hook into W hand|pg||
nt|ritong: so weichsel showed a rockcrushing 6/5 and lair declined|pg||
nt|barnets: a 1 imp swing could be very important for deutsch |pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|sK|nt|ybob: after the 3@C bid, could win 5@D|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
nt|ybob: need guess @D only ...|pg||
nt|swanson: In 3NT with a spade lead declarer leads the @DQ.  If East covers (the reflex play) declarer ducks and has nine winners.|pg||
nt|ybob: scary if E play small :)|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hK|pg||
nt|swanson: It's clearly the correct play - but one has to make it in tempo (like many good plays) to be successful.|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cK|nt|swanson: These ladies are so aggressive with their opening bids and in other situations, I'm surprised that South didn't take a shot at 3NT.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
nt|andyv:  claim time |pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|d2|nt|ybob: or bid 4@D over 3@S ...|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|swanson: The downside is that if diamonds don't come it 3NT will be set multiple tricks.|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ritong: minimum number of tricks again|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: I entered wrong, it was +450|pg||
nt|ritong: yah|pg||
nt|barnets: that is very important|pg||
nt|ritong: oui|pg||
nt|barnets: that makes the score 12 imps|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Lost 2 trumpt tricks only|pg||
nt|barnets: to deutsch|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|d5|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|mc|7|pg||
qx|o45|st||md|3S5HK62DQ52CJ86532,ST8HT8743DKJ3CKQ4,SAJ76HQJ95D986CT7,SKQ9432HADAT74CA9|sv|b|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: we've blasted thru these boards     45 is final of this set  final quarter begins in about 1 hour 20 minutes|pg||
mb|1S|nt|scotty: I think it would have been better to play clubs before drawing the last trump, but I don't think it mattered|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other tables about 4 boards behind|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|scotty: 48 is final, no?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: yes, 48|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: you're right --- i thought all matches 60 boards :(|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: that explains a lot :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfk: then a final set of 16 starting in about one hour from now|pg||
nt|scotty: 4@s aggressive there, but she has a nice-looking hand|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
nt|scotty: excellent play - with the entry problems, this is the best chance for overtricks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: single dummy -- is 1st round hook in @S best?|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: sry too fast for me here|pg||
mc|12|nt|Vugraphzfk: short break|pg||
nt|scotty: With plenty of entries, lead to K and Q|pg||
nt|ahollan1: +2 seems wrong|pg||
nt|scotty: Why?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: of operator lost play  --   time enough to guess @DQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but back to trump   why not cater to 5-0 trump and float 1st trump?|pg||
nt|scotty: And you would naturally guess it, since You know S has stiff spade - and you never find out about 6-2 clubs|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: she ran the spade 8 at trick two on the last hand|pg||
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qx|c45|st||md|3S5HK62DQ52CJ86532,ST8HT8743DKJ3CKQ4,SAJ76HQJ95D986CT7,SKQ9432HADAT74CA9|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|andyv:  this 4@h contract will have a lot of work|pg||
nt|athene: west isn't too happy on lead|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|ritong: 3@d likely infers three cards raise|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Thx|pg||
nt|barnets: if n/s play slam in diamonds they could lose  a couple of vital imps|pg||
nt|barnets: unless its 7 of course !|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|ritong: they are going to have a small BW problem imo|pg||
nt|ritong: about the trump suit|pg||
nt|barnets: lynch have a likely pick up on the last board so this hand may be decisive|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: whatever he leads helps declarer to an extent|pg||
nt|barnets: north will place the final contract\|pg||
nt|ritong: one of weichsel's problems currently is: if i raise @ds, what will be the agreed suit|pg||
nt|daman: a thoughtful lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: on a spade lead declarer might throw a club on a spade and play for a club ruff|pg||
nt|athene: or alternatively try and get the diamonds going|pg||
nt|ahollan1: has Sokolow had ANY easy bids this set?|pg||
mb|p|nt|andyv:  good lead|pg||
nt|barnets: souths 3@D shows 3  card spade support|pg||
nt|othered1: Turns out 2N wasn't free here.  Wonder what 4@D would have meant over 2@S?|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cK|nt|barnets: some play it has 3 and a non minimum|pg||
nt|barnets: now a cue bid|pg||
nt|barnets: meanwhile north has not supported diamonds|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ritong: now it is @ss|pg||
pc|s6|nt|barnets: north still is not sure|pg||
nt|ritong: i mean, south answers with @s fit|pg||
nt|barnets: where to play|pg||
nt|barnets: 6@D could be right|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
nt|barnets: now south is worried  he has shown more diamonds than he has|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ybob: now 11 tricks|pg||
pc|c2|nt|ritong: saving 2 imps|pg||
pc|s8|nt|hackenbush: this double partner almost certainly has 4 spades, looking for the big payoff when both 2@h and 2@s makes|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|barnets: souths decision could have been a match winner|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Dummy showed max, stiff heart|pg||
nt|barnets: this looks sure to be flat|pg||
nt|ritong: lair took a huge view|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 5 & 6 imp swings also add up quickly|pg||
nt|hackenbush: definitely|pg||
nt|ybob: she needs run the first @S to 12|pg||
nt|swanson: And guess diamonds.|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ritong: looks innocuous, but is enormous|pg||
nt|barnets: of course north had not guaranteed 5 spades|pg||
nt|barnets: so the whole situation is wooly to say the least|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: seems she should have gotten that right|pg||
nt|ahollan1: just don't ask me why|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|c3|nt|athene: declarer is going to go for a club ruff|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: now needs exact @S layout  and that will mean Radin holds @CQ  else she would have opened 1N|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and that is just for down 1|pg||
nt|hackenbush: unfortunately can't get to hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh right  needed @HK as entry|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|h5|nt|andyv:  one of the key facets in defense is to try not to break new suits for declarer hence Bob's return of a @s|pg||
pc|s3|pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: finally getting some real help from opp|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|swanson: Still has to guess diamonds for 11. |pg||
pc|s9|pc|c5|pc|h8|nt|andyv:  the tough part is now|pg||
nt|andyv:  best seems AK @h and ruff @c|pg||
nt|athene: declarer's only worry now is holding the trump losers to one|pg||
nt|athene: maybe you ruff a diamond now|pg||
nt|athene: you know west has the king still so that isn't getting overruffed|pg||
nt|andyv:  on @d ruff, E pitches @c|pg||
nt|athene: yes, but you might still be able to combine chances in trumps|pg||
nt|athene: with some trump coup possibilities|pg||
nt|andyv:  so basically the same thing but ruff 1@d first then AK@h?  that works too|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|daman: she will take the money and run    no finesses|pg||
nt|ybob: now 11 surely|pg||
mc|11|nt|ahollan1: does doubleton trump Q help here?     @C finesse, @SA @SK   nope doesn't help|pg||
nt|ybob: with 4/1 @S|pg||
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qx|o46|st||md|4SQ4HAQJT43DK9CQJ2,ST62HK2D8743CT953,SA9873H6DAQ65CA86,SKJ5H9875DJT2CK74|sv|o|nt|scotty: She did float the first trump|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh i thought it was corrected to @S8 to King|pg||
nt|ahollan1: never mind|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: well of this i'm absolutely sure     Sprung leads Westheimer by 15|pg||
mb|3H|an|<16|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|scotty: I'm absoloutely sure that it's usually wiser not to absolutely sure |pg||
pc|cT|nt|ahollan1: in the Seniors    Schwartz leads O'Rourke by 51     Lynch over Milner by 13|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: absolutely|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cJ|nt|scotty: "It ain't what you don't know that hurts you, it's what you know that just ain't so" - attributed to Mark Twain|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|scotty: Sorry, I have to go make my son dinner now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks so much Michael|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: thanks for being here Michael|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|s3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|h7|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c46|st||md|4SQ4HAQJT43DK9CQJ2,ST62HK2D8743CT953,SA9873H6DAQ65CA86,SKJ5H9875DJT2CK74|sv|o|nt|athene: he can't cater for everything i don't think|pg||
nt|andyv:  I think John's line was very efficient|pg||
nt|daman: this is the penultimate board of this session|pg||
nt|ahollan1: what just happened?    i blinked|pg||
nt|hackenbush: could've been down more, don't think that @cA was going away|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh she really did fly @CA|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Rose quickly with club A|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yuk|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: there might be a more technical term|pg||
nt|ahollan1: what will Moss do over 1N overcall?|pg||
mb|1H|nt|ritong: soooo....|pg||
nt|ritong: is that one mundane?|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: the idea of ruffing some diamonds was that you might then be able to cash the @HAK and even if west showed out you would not necessarily be dead|pg||
nt|athene: as you might have a trump coup against east|pg||
nt|andyv:  20-20 hand|pg||
nt|daman: NS will end up in another lazy 4@H contract|pg||
nt|hackenbush: well Valerie Westheimer in the BBO Junior club calls that the flying ace syndrome|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C by many would be artificial  [example: same bid as if RHO opened 1N]  so PASS/DBL/3@C were her options|pg||
nt|hackenbush: most play double as negative here over 3@c|pg||
nt|hackenbush: but might be scary if partner passes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and with the lack of values  negative would definitely apply|pg||
mb|1S|nt|andyv:  good point|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: well|pg||
nt|daman: now they satnd to gain an IMP or 2|pg||
nt|daman: stand*|pg||
mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: good 3@C bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: no board passes out any more, even if two players pass 11 counts in 1 and 2 pos, a rarity in some circles |pg||
nt|ahollan1: stopped NS from finding @S|pg||
mb|3D|nt|athene: sutherlin knows everyone has about a ten count|pg||
nt|athene: bramley has to be dead min to pass 1@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and it makes!|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: oh my|pg||
mb|3N|nt|athene: i would bid 2@C on the south hand i think|pg||
nt|andyv:  usually, responder shouldn't have more points than opener:)|pg||
nt|athene: you just don't get rich letting opps play in 1 of things|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Radin using her entries to lead up to dummy's kings|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|nt|barnets: now on that lead e/w can hold dec to 9 tricks|pg||
nt|ybob: good spot here|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cK|nt|othered1: One possible imp pick up here to Deutsch . . . |pg||
nt|ritong: 9 for sure, let s see about the tenth|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|ybob: 460, next|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|nt|barnets: which could be a very vital imp|pg||
nt|barnets: there is a chance this match could finished tied at the end |pg||
nt|barnets: of the 60|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
nt|othered1: You have a twice-passed partner and little defense . . . |pg||
nt|athene: i guess he decided there was not much point; most of the time it would just push opps from 1@S making 8 into 2@S making 8 :)|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|ybob: good try by Migry|pg||
mc|11|nt|ritong: everything in place now|pg||
nt|barnets: looks like 9 only|pg||
nt|daman: they could have gleaned 500 from 4@S doubled|pg||
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qx|o47|st||md|1SKQ942H2DAKQ9CA63,S8HQ987DT83CKJT84,ST763HA54D752C975,SAJ5HKJT63DJ64CQ2|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: no squeeze but nice try|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: drum roll|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s2|pc|c8|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: we can see  that 4 rounds of @D best after misguessing @S -- but it is hardly % action|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c47|st||md|1SKQ942H2DAKQ9CA63,S8HQ987DT83CKJT84,ST763HA54D752C975,SAJ5HKJT63DJ64CQ2|sv|n|nt|barnets: 13 imps margin|pg||
nt|barnets: if n/s play 4@H the match is a tie|pg||
nt|barnets: 13 imps to lynch|pg||
nt|daman: 2@S   1@H   1@C   2@D|pg||
nt|daman: last board now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: may just be push or win 4 but still  beating par is always nice|pg||
nt|ahollan1: is weak 2@D available?|pg||
mb|1S|nt|barnets: and there will be extra boards|pg||
nt|barnets: if the scoring is corect|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: for future matches     http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php     bookmark it|pg||
mb|1N!|nt|othered1: Quite a 2@S bid in OR.  Do they play it 2-suited by definition?|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, good point barnet|pg||
mb|2H|nt|barnets: in other room west opened 2@S|pg||
nt|daman: sorry folks    we have 16 board quarters    I thought 15   like yesterday    one more after this|pg||
mb|d!|mb|4C!|nt|daman: 3NT from the Nprth hand is the best spot|pg||
nt|ybob: @H lead and declarer has only 1 chance to win|pg||
nt|ybob: Now W shows 9 cards @C @H so ...|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|nt|athene: on the rule of 11, north has one club higher than the six|pg||
nt|athene: if it's the king or jack you want to play low in dummy; if it's the 9 or 8 you want to stick in the ten|pg||
nt|othered1: Deutsch has gotten into the lead on the basis of that potential slam on board 42, where they found 6@D in the OR.|pg||
nt|athene: assuming you can get south on lead next|pg||
nt|andyv:  so odds about 2-1 in favor of 10|pg||
nt|andyv:  as most don't lead away from Jacks|pg||
nt|athene: isn't it exactly 50-50?|pg||
nt|barnets: and this made it more difficult for /s|pg||
nt|daman: North*|pg||
nt|tez: 3@h down 2|pg||
mb|d|nt|barnets: n/s|pg||
mb|p|nt|ybob: S will play 4@S anyway, now X p 4@S|pg||
nt|swanson: 4@C is a 'fit bid' showing clubs with heart support.  I guess partner has to work out whether it shows any real values or not.|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Director, please|pg||
nt|tez: maybe they will stay here|pg||
mb|4S|nt|barnets: a good tactical bid|pg||
nt|hackenbush: tempting to pass with West but priority still goes to bidding your own contract first|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: well, he sort of wants to be in dummy to finesse spades|pg||
mb|p|nt|hackenbush: with 3 defensive tricks, and a fairly offensive hand, both @d and @s might be making|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: in other match  with 4 to score in the set  Sprung leads Westheimer by 19|pg||
nt|ahollan1: after long dinner break   30 more boards to complete the USA1 semi-final matches|pg||
nt|ahollan1: winners advance to USA1 Final   losers got to USA2 bracket|pg||
nt|hackenbush: good lead, holding values in both unbid suits|pg||
pc|h7|nt|barnets: and then found a good opening lead V 3n|pg||
nt|barnets: the @D J|pg||
pc|hA|nt|athene: so maybe this is reasonable|pg||
nt|barnets: so good play by passel to put pressure on n/s|pg||
pc|h3|nt|othered1: Remember, the score shown here is not official.|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|barnets: south could have taken out 3N but left it in|pg||
nt|swanson: I would think that North would take an essentially certain profit against 4@H.  Wrong again.|pg||
pc|s3|nt|athene: if you played low and north did turn up with a big card, then your natural play would be a diamond, which might allow north to put a club through anyway|pg||
nt|barnets: the def must cash another diamond now|pg||
nt|ybob: true moment :)|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sK|nt|ritong: i think 11 or 12 do not change imp|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|ybob: can win too|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Profits are good|pg||
nt|ybob: 4@D rounds pitch @C|pg||
pc|s2|nt|barnets: thats a tie|pg||
nt|hackenbush: still making, as NS can't get in to lead trumps again|pg||
pc|c4|nt|andyv:  Deutsch has gone ahead by bidding the slam on board 42|pg||
nt|athene: bramley can make 11 but only if he finesses the spade, i think|pg||
nt|andyv:  so with 17 boards to go, this promises to be a very match|pg||
nt|athene: he might have enough of a count to do that|pg||
nt|andyv:  exciting that is:)|pg||
pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: in Seniors   Milner leads Lynch by 23     Schwartz over O'Rourke by 32|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|sA|nt|athene: he will see south has five diamonds and one heart|pg||
nt|daman: has to get busy and knock out the @H Ace|pg||
pc|s4|pc|h8|pc|s7|pg||
nt|barnets: so we have a 6 board play off and hope to bring it to you|pg||
nt|daman: that's the end of the defense|pg||
nt|daman: uncle|pg||
nt|daman: claim|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s9|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
nt|ritong: first needs confirmation of the tie|pg||
nt|barnets: if the scores we have are accurate|pg||
nt|ritong: in any case, this room will be closed|pg||
nt|ritong: in order to load the playoff boards|pg||
nt|ritong: if any|pg||
nt|barnets: while we are waiting all those interested in extraordinary bridge stories from the past and hands from the present|pg||
nt|barnets: visit www.shenkinbridge.com|pg||
nt|ritong: do we have an operator again?|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|othered1: Incidentally, on board 42, east in OR did bid 5@C over north's 4@C cue-bid, south made the expected forcing pass then raised north's 5@D to slam.  |pg||
pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d9|mc|10|nt|andyv:  bye everyone for now|pg||
nt|athene: Bramley rose @HA i guess because if he had finessed and north had won and cleared clubs, the spade finesse would no longer have been safe|pg||
nt|athene: ok thanks all|pg||
nt|othered1: THanks to our operator for the fine presentation of a pretty fast-paced set, not an easy job.  Thanks everyone else and bye.|pg||
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qx|o48|st||md|2S93HK7DJ64CAJ9873,SAT52HQJ4DA82CT54,SQJ7HA52DQT93CK62,SK864HT9863DK75CQ|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: NOW final board of the set|pg||
nt|Vugraphzfk: last segment in 45 min |pg||
nt|ahollan1: but other rooms still lagging|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c2|pc|s4|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|s8|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg||
pc|c8|pc|sT|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg||
mc|8|nt|ahollan1: well if you're going to cash @HK why not just claim earlier?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks everyone    enjoy rest of round at other tables|pg||
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qx|c48|st||md|2S93HK7DJ64CAJ9873,SAT52HQJ4DA82CT54,SQJ7HA52DQT93CK62,SK864HT9863DK75CQ|sv|e|nt|daman: now the last board|pg||
nt|daman: thanks to our operator Gary Hann    super job|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is last board of the set   restart in about 2.5 hours|pg||
nt|ybob: OR lead was J@C and declarer win the first trick and go down|pg||
nt|ybob: if she duck 1 @C cold too |pg||
mb|1C!|nt|vugraphzff: :)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C anyone?|pg||
mb|d|mb|1H|nt|hackenbush: too bad they're favorable|pg||
mb|p|nt|ybob: no trf response after X|pg||
mb|1N|nt|daman: next session begins in roughly 40 minutes|pg||
nt|daman: 2@C must show @Cs obviously|pg||
nt|hackenbush: many pairs like to play that 3-level preempts have tighter range, depending on colors|pg||
nt|tez: last here.ty all.enjoyed .ty Roberto. TY SPECS|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: and here we are|pg||
nt|hackenbush: so favorable 3@c = bad hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: favorable = random hand  but 2nd seat ??|pg||
nt|hackenbush: yes 2nd seat should usually be stronger|pg||
nt|hackenbush: 3@c certainly works better for this hand|pg||
mb|2C|nt|daman: an inspired lead|pg||
nt|ybob: Ty Tezcan|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: no reason to get too fancy|pg||
nt|daman: over to a @S    @C finesse    @C Ace|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|tez: Ty gary:)|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: the more i watch, the more convinced i am that transfers over the DBL work much better than standard  [i.e. a forcing 1@H feels wrong]|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hK|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: Sokolow DBL = 3@H  [support dbl]|pg||
nt|hackenbush: NS did avoid going for 800 in 5@c|pg||
nt|ahollan1: reminds me of my grandfather     i saved $100,000 dollars today   saw a house i loved and didn't buy it     [it was a long time ago]|pg||
nt|hackenbush: certainly pairs that play transfers over 1@c opening, play it over the double, e.g. Garner-Weinstein|pg||
nt|ahollan1: even if not playing them over 1@C-P   many play them over 1@C-X and 1@D-X|pg||
nt|hackenbush: many more play them over 1M-Dbl|pg||
nt|vugraphzff: Lots of agony here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: those have been around longer|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: from the players or the specs following our ramblings?>|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg||
mc|9|nt|vugraphzff: It was a bit of an ordeal lol :)|pg||
nt|swanson: There is another set of 16 boards to decided this match - will start in 15-20 minutes.|pg||
nt|swanson: THanks all.|pg||
nt|ybob: Thx all|pg||
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